Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it's another episode of Relationships Is a Bitch.
Speaker 1: It is our sixth episode of Relationships as a Bitch.
Speaker 1: This is Mike Agavino along with aj Benza and our
Speaker 1: relationship guru Irena would Hey, guys, Hi, guys doing okay,
Speaker 1: let's not pretend that we haven't spent forty five minutes
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Speaker 1: still don't understand what the hell happened there, but folks,
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Speaker 1: thank you, folks. I was analyzing a little bit of
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Speaker 2: Irena, we are doing some fascinating work and it's a
Speaker 2: lot of work. It's much more work that I expected
Speaker 2: to be, to be honest, and technology it's a different world,
Speaker 2: but I'm glad I'm diving into it.
Speaker 3: You know, when your parents made you, it was very
Speaker 3: easy to make you, but now making your avatars very difficult.
Speaker 2: I know what ever questions them about the process.
Speaker 4: Well, we all not what it takes.
Speaker 5: But the place maybe different in Ukraine than I guess
Speaker 5: to make the kids, it's you know, maybe easy process.
Speaker 2: But to raise it up, yes, I got a question
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: I don't know why tell me. These things just come.
Speaker 1: They just occur to me. But you know, we're we're
Speaker 1: in a new town, in a new state, in a
Speaker 1: new house, and everything is different, and so we're having
Speaker 1: new people, like a new handy person who comes and
Speaker 1: does stuff a new landscape or et cetera. And the
Speaker 1: the handy man is a Latino man. But I couldn't
Speaker 1: I knew it was I knew his last name was
Speaker 1: one of the more common Latino last names. So I'm
Speaker 1: going through my bloated contacts list, which hasn't been pruned
Speaker 1: and I don't know how many years, and there's like
Speaker 1: ten thousand names in there. And you would think I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have that many oscars, but I have quite a
Speaker 1: few oscars. And Jerry Anne screwed me up completely because
Speaker 1: she started calling him Oscar de la Cruz. And because
Speaker 1: there was a famous fighter named Oscar de la Hoya,
Speaker 1: famous boxer, and this guy's name was just Oscar Cruise.
Speaker 1: There was no Dayla. That was just my wife thinking
Speaker 1: of Oscar de la Hoya and starting to call the
Speaker 1: guy de la Cruz. So I'm looking for Dela and
Speaker 1: I'm going through, you know, Gonzales and Ortiz and all
Speaker 1: this stuff.
Speaker 3: And that's what Trump's doing now, going to Gonzales and
Speaker 3: Ortiz and Cruiz.
Speaker 1: He's going through all that. But it made me wonder,
Speaker 1: so what are some of the most common like Ukrainian
Speaker 1: or Russian last names, Like what are the Smith and
Speaker 1: Jones and Gonzales and cruisiers of Ukraine?
Speaker 4: Let me see, I think Carolinko is that a big one.
Speaker 2: Carolinko, No, but actually I didn't know what's the most
Speaker 2: common family name. But I have to tell you that
Speaker 2: everything what you hear, mostly which ends up with ko,
Speaker 2: that is a sign that it's Ukrainian background and Ukrainian family.
Speaker 2: So when you hear Kutsenko, that was my original family
Speaker 2: name before I was married to Canwood. And Alexinko that
Speaker 2: is part of my family. That my uncle's family name,
Speaker 2: and my mother's name before she got married to my father,
Speaker 2: and as well Ivan Yanko probably would be very Ukrainian name,
Speaker 2: because you know, you can hear you is a lot
Speaker 2: Bandarian would be very famous. But usually whatever you have
Speaker 2: here and then with code, that's Ukrainie.
Speaker 3: What about well, if it's like last name is Ivanov
Speaker 3: or Popov, that's that rusty.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting when you're here and you're already let's say,
Speaker 2: American citizen or you're having some paperwork done in the
Speaker 2: United States. In Russian language, when you are for a man,
Speaker 2: you should be Popova for a woman, but since you
Speaker 2: are in the United States, every your legal paperwork is
Speaker 2: translated into your husband's name. When we speak about masculine
Speaker 2: and feminine thought about powers like last time, so we
Speaker 2: wen have to keep the pronunciation of the man's name,
Speaker 2: so still be pop.
Speaker 4: Whatever it is, right, Okay, I got you. And what
Speaker 4: was your last name again? Your main name? I was, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I see a Cova length. I was very popular too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Molenka is famous Monia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, cool but not but there's not like
Speaker 4: a dom.
Speaker 1: There's not like Smith or Johnson or like where even
Speaker 1: even your new last name would is very common.
Speaker 2: I know, but you know, like I'm sure they are.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I'm aware about it because I left
Speaker 2: Ukraine many years ago. I wasn't a kid, but I
Speaker 2: never was, you know, thinking about surnames and so yeah, honestly, when.
Speaker 1: You were reading the phone book, No, probably I was born.
Speaker 1: Probably didn't have such a thing as a phone book.
Speaker 2: No, we had, we did, absolutely, yes, and my parents
Speaker 2: and my grandparents they had it. I probably was, you know,
Speaker 2: diving into English vocabulary to picking up my foreign languages
Speaker 2: because I always have seen myself living abroad. I'm proud
Speaker 2: of my motherland, but I always seen myself somewhere else.
Speaker 4: That's good.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was thinking about taking the phone books
Speaker 3: when I was a kid, in New York City, or
Speaker 3: there are thousands of phone booths in New York City,
Speaker 3: and they all had phone books with them, so you
Speaker 3: can run through a phone, both open a phone book
Speaker 3: and find someone's number.
Speaker 4: Now you don't mean phone booths are left in New
Speaker 4: York mic two is that it? There's two in the
Speaker 4: entire city, both on the Upper West Side. I think
Speaker 4: I read that a few months back. They're both up uptown.
Speaker 1: So you're can tell me that neither of the train
Speaker 1: stations nor the bus term none of them have a
Speaker 1: public phone.
Speaker 4: No mean public phone?
Speaker 2: Do you use yours at home? Because we don't. We
Speaker 2: have just like my husbands his cell phone, I do mine.
Speaker 1: And I wonder we had to give all the legal
Speaker 1: immigrants their own phones.
Speaker 3: By the way, By the way, New York City no
Speaker 3: longer has any public payphones on the streets, but there
Speaker 3: are a few payphones that still may be in service,
Speaker 3: so there's a few.
Speaker 4: There's four booths uptown, but that's it. Okay, that's it.
Speaker 1: So none at Penn Station, none at Grand Central, none
Speaker 1: at the bus terminal.
Speaker 4: They're on the West End.
Speaker 3: Sixty six ninetieth, one hundred, one hundred and first streets.
Speaker 3: What does that even matter?
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 4: It's all right.
Speaker 1: I don't know how we got on this topic. Maybe
Speaker 1: an idiot about names names? Yeah, okay, you guys. Well,
Speaker 1: it's it's been a week since the election, and most
Speaker 1: people other than I should point out aj Benza anticipated
Speaker 1: this being one of the closest elections in history. It
Speaker 1: turned out it was a blowout and a mandate for
Speaker 1: Trump that included a clean sweep of the seven battleround
Speaker 1: states and a victory in the popular vote. Trump's coat
Speaker 1: tails are long enough to bring several Senate races across
Speaker 1: the finish line, allowing Republicans to take a fifty three
Speaker 1: forty seven I guess officially Carry Lake has lost. So
Speaker 1: fifty three to forty seven is where we are in
Speaker 1: the Senate. And while a number of House races still
Speaker 1: are being tabulated, California is the worst. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just ridiculous that we can't find out who won these races.
Speaker 1: But you know, while there's still a number of them out,
Speaker 1: it looks like the Republicans have retained the majority in
Speaker 1: the House, slight majority they had in the House, and
Speaker 1: maybe it'll grow by one or two or shrink by one,
Speaker 1: we don't know. But in the days immediately following the election,
Speaker 1: we saw some prominent Democrats Bernie Sanders for one, James
Speaker 1: Carvell for another, expressed regret and their belief that the
Speaker 1: Democrat Party had lost track, lost its way with the
Speaker 1: middle class, they lost touch with the issues that matter
Speaker 1: to everyday Americans, and lost the support of certain percentage
Speaker 1: of the ethnic groups they saw as monolithic voting blocks
Speaker 1: that would always blindly support them. The Latino American stats
Speaker 1: are pretty amazing, almost fifty to fifty, and on the
Speaker 1: male side more Latino mails voting for Trump than voted
Speaker 1: for Harris. On the African American side, the black side, overall,
Speaker 1: the numbers are up, but still, you know, they predominantly
Speaker 1: vote vote Democrat. But Trump grew his numbers there significantly,
Speaker 1: so you know. Unfortunately, besides Sanders and like I said,
Speaker 1: Carvel to a degree, most of the other things we've
Speaker 1: seen coming out of Democrats is more blamecasting from liberal
Speaker 1: voices in the media, blaming white women, misogynists, racists, the
Speaker 1: conservative media industrial complex, which I didn't know there was
Speaker 1: such a thing. Elon Musk, Joe Roganer Carlson, Charlie Kirk,
Speaker 1: all kinds of others. We've seen the videos on TikTok
Speaker 1: and Instagram from hysterical people, mostly women, repeating fallacies about
Speaker 1: Hitler and fascism and national abortion bands and a retribution
Speaker 1: tour and dictator on Day one, and Economic Ruin Project
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. All of this stuff at nauseum. And
Speaker 1: I saw a popular meme that I think captured what
Speaker 1: has gone on very well. It said, Democrats a bunch
Speaker 1: of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich
Speaker 1: people by telling the poor people that other rich people
Speaker 1: are the reason they're poor.
Speaker 4: It's perfect. It's perfect.
Speaker 1: That is it in a nutshell? So thousands of videos
Speaker 1: circulated with family members declaring that they will no longer
Speaker 1: speak with relatives who voted for Trump. Many said that
Speaker 1: they will not attend Thanksgiving dinner with relatives who voted
Speaker 1: for Trump. And so I want to devote our first
Speaker 1: segment here to family relationships and what our relationship experts
Speaker 1: Arena Wood thinks about the types of issues that actually
Speaker 1: do and don't justify ending family relationships and uninviting relatives
Speaker 1: to Thanksgiving dinner. So I guess this sort of falls
Speaker 1: in that four beef. I don't really get that where
Speaker 1: they came up with. What does that stand for? Even
Speaker 1: I don't know?
Speaker 4: For me? Is the movement in Asia?
Speaker 1: Right with the women cutting in South Korea?
Speaker 4: But it's here now, Yeah, it's here now.
Speaker 3: Well, of course it's gonna be I see other videos
Speaker 3: of women having their head shaven, and all I gotta
Speaker 3: say is, everything you're doing is just turning off your man.
Speaker 3: Either you're screaming into the phone or having a buzz cut.
Speaker 3: What do you think your husband's gonna do while you
Speaker 3: stick out this rampage of this attitude problem you have.
Speaker 4: Men are not going to be calm with this.
Speaker 3: Family is gonna fracture if women act this way, ridiculous,
Speaker 3: denying them sex, cutting their hand.
Speaker 4: You know it's not your husband that did this to you.
Speaker 4: Why are you making him suffer? You know?
Speaker 2: I just have to say something now. I'm just here.
Speaker 2: I had you just raised up the topic of four
Speaker 2: b and yesterday I was invited by some magazine to
Speaker 2: give my comments, my professional comments on that topic. And
Speaker 2: I think that what's going on, it's horrible. World is
Speaker 2: in danger, and I'm woman and I will speak hopefully
Speaker 2: women will hear me out very well. God created just
Speaker 2: too sexiest, just too which are men and women. I
Speaker 2: don't believe that men. We all can function without each
Speaker 2: other physically and energetically, but we are related and we
Speaker 2: complete each other. We compliment each other, We make each
Speaker 2: other better. And you can't say who is better man
Speaker 2: or women like you can't say which hand is better
Speaker 2: left or right, because we are similar as humans, but
Speaker 2: we are very different. We bring the different energy to
Speaker 2: the world. And when I see the idea which is
Speaker 2: growing on feminism and I understand Actually when you go
Speaker 2: to the original feminism, where did it come from? Women
Speaker 2: were fighting for the rights to vote, whites to be educated,
Speaker 2: and rights to get to embrace some professions. I think
Speaker 2: the idea of feminism from good side of it was
Speaker 2: accomplished long time ago because women are free now and
Speaker 2: we are free to do and to have few educations
Speaker 2: and to have few jobs, and to do whatever we
Speaker 2: want in life. But what is going on in South
Speaker 2: Korea and in the United States with extreme radical wave
Speaker 2: of feminism that I would separate from original feminism idea.
Speaker 2: I think it's very similar to democracy. What was democracy
Speaker 2: before and what democracy is considered to be right now,
Speaker 2: so it should be renamed. This move into something else
Speaker 2: because b is addicted to that. It's considered to be
Speaker 2: no in their language. So they say, we provide, we
Speaker 2: offer two knows to men, don't case, we don't have sex,
Speaker 2: we don't make kids, and we don't spend time or
Speaker 2: something like that. Yeah, four knows. So they are ready,
Speaker 2: if you think about it, psychologically, to give up their energetic, physic, sexual,
Speaker 2: psychological pleasure of being with man and next to man
Speaker 2: to embrace the power of man, which is horrible. So
Speaker 2: we are ready to give up the pleasure that God
Speaker 2: gave us right because we are here to continue the generation.
Speaker 2: We're here to complete each other, to make this world
Speaker 2: more beautiful, and to serve to each other, to serve
Speaker 2: the God as well, also you know, helping other people. No,
Speaker 2: they give up the pleasure and the purpose of being
Speaker 2: on the earth just to get the power of the
Speaker 2: over the man and over the planet. So it's radical,
Speaker 2: it's extreme. It's nothing to do with God, it's nothing
Speaker 2: to do with spirituality, it's nothing to do with being
Speaker 2: a woman, and it's nothing to do with original idea
Speaker 2: of feminism as well.
Speaker 1: What are the four knows? What are they again?
Speaker 6: No sex and no sex, no kisses, no kids with men,
Speaker 6: and as well, like you know when you say even
Speaker 6: about abortion, that's my kid, that's my body, ladies, this
Speaker 6: seed that is who planted it right the firm, so
Speaker 6: how it could be just your kid?
Speaker 2: Also, this I don't understand.
Speaker 4: It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: And you know, I have no qualms saying that females
Speaker 3: are the stronger sex in a lot of ways.
Speaker 4: But what they're exhibiting now, some of them online and
Speaker 4: in their private homes, is so weak and meet that
Speaker 4: it's embarrassing.
Speaker 3: If I was one of those husbands, I don't know
Speaker 3: what the hell my life would be like, but it
Speaker 3: wouldn't be fun.
Speaker 4: Because you're punishing him.
Speaker 3: He didn't do anything unless yeah, right around the house
Speaker 3: screaming Trump's name with maga hats on.
Speaker 4: He didn't do anything. Why making him suffer? Stupid?
Speaker 2: You know, gay, I work with women and I work
Speaker 2: with men also, and I understand when we look at
Speaker 2: women's shelters and I collaborated with that type of organization. Also,
Speaker 2: they are horrible cases how women were raped, abuse and offended.
Speaker 2: But there are good men there are good men who
Speaker 2: are healthy emotionally and mentally. There are a great men
Speaker 2: who want healthy kids and you know, provide for their families,
Speaker 2: protect their women. So I wish if women hear me out,
Speaker 2: just to go to the good side of them and
Speaker 2: support them, believe in them, and to bring the energy
Speaker 2: to the family and to feel like women and you know,
Speaker 2: change the culture that's going on nowadays.
Speaker 1: Well, what is it a magazine that you're doing the interviewing.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was somehow and Something my apologists, I don't
Speaker 2: remember the name exactly, you know, they asked me about it.
Speaker 2: I was shocked. I googled because I didn't know. Of course,
Speaker 2: I'm aware about feminist idea. Yeah, but I told you
Speaker 2: original idea, like I hear what women wanted beguarded.
Speaker 4: But what is for me?
Speaker 2: It's radical and whatever is radical, it's a lot of
Speaker 2: potential of the hidden energy of anger. And you know,
Speaker 2: even if it's war, it's always explosive and it's never good.
Speaker 2: So the same here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, it's easier to delve or wander off into fighting.
Speaker 3: It's very easy to ruin something, but it's very hard
Speaker 3: to build something back up, you know, like you could
Speaker 3: break a window, very simply. But have you thought about
Speaker 3: how what it takes to to build a window? I mean,
Speaker 3: things take time. If you're going to be that radical
Speaker 3: in your own home, you're you're breaking you're breaking off
Speaker 3: some very crucial part of your relationship with your husband
Speaker 3: and your kids. If my wife didn't, i'd say, come
Speaker 3: back when your hands past your shoulders. Although Mike you
Speaker 3: probably like it. You probably say just keep it to
Speaker 3: your to your neck.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, Yeah, you shake your head for me, please.
Speaker 2: You know, if you think about it, it's an idea
Speaker 2: of man haters. It's nothing to do with feminism. And
Speaker 2: if you're let's say you're you delivered a son, not
Speaker 2: a girl, so you unconsciously already hate your own son.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a man exactly?
Speaker 2: Do you think you raise up him differently?
Speaker 3: Or what?
Speaker 1: Well, no, was was getting tattoos removed. Part of the
Speaker 1: four being movement was that that wasn't that too?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't do you think that they remove all tattoos?
Speaker 1: Well, I know of a story here between kind of
Speaker 1: a famous podcaster, any famous country star that that involved
Speaker 1: a removal of tattoos. AJ's story, it's it's a crazy story.
Speaker 3: I tried to avoid this story for a week or two,
Speaker 3: but it's too big. A girl named Brianna Chicken Fry Lapallia.
Speaker 4: They call it Chicken Fry.
Speaker 3: She is a podcaster for Barstool Sports, and she is
Speaker 3: explaining why she will not remove the matching tattoos she
Speaker 3: got with her former bull the country singer Zach Bryant
Speaker 3: so occasion.
Speaker 4: I don't know who Chicken Fry is. She's very pretty girl.
Speaker 3: She hosts the Plan Bree Uncut Barstool Sports. She got
Speaker 3: very famous pretty quickly. Her TikTok account when Banana she
Speaker 3: has all the one point six million fans and she
Speaker 3: updates about her life and her sex life in her career.
Speaker 3: She's very open and honest. She began this relationship with
Speaker 3: Zach Bryan, who, Mike, I know you're very into Zach Bryan.
Speaker 3: Now you found his music on a playlist. I really
Speaker 3: I heard one sung in your car and I liked
Speaker 3: it myself. I don't know much about his music.
Speaker 1: He's huge, he said.
Speaker 3: I know, I know he's huge, but here's the here's
Speaker 3: how huge he is. Apparently, this relationship they had came
Speaker 3: to an end, but Chicken Fry has refused to get
Speaker 3: rid of the matching tattoo she.
Speaker 4: Got with Brian.
Speaker 3: It was rumored in the past that Zach Bryan wrote
Speaker 3: this song called twenty eight about her. She's from Massachusetts
Speaker 3: and Luke, I'm sorry, and Brian sings in the song,
Speaker 3: how lucky are we? It's been a hell of a
Speaker 3: week and we're all grown now. You took a train
Speaker 3: to the sound side of Boston. You show me where
Speaker 3: your whole heart stayed. Took twenty eight years of blood
Speaker 3: pumping through me to feel loved on my own birthday.
Speaker 3: But then Luke Bryant shut down that speculation. Zach r
Speaker 3: the other one right. Zach Bryan did an interview over
Speaker 3: the summer where he said he wrote the song about
Speaker 3: his dog named Boston. It wasn't about her, He said,
Speaker 3: Boston was our puppy was going at the surgery, and
Speaker 3: I told Brianna, how lucky are we to have a
Speaker 3: puppy so beautiful?
Speaker 4: And she came out of it just so.
Speaker 3: He wrote it the next day because he felt like
Speaker 3: the luckiest man on the planet. Now, this breakup came
Speaker 3: to light when he posted that they called it quits
Speaker 3: after more than a year together. Back around before Halloween.
Speaker 3: That catches Chicken Fry off guard, and she posts several
Speaker 3: hours later that she was blindsided by this breakup. Uh,
Speaker 3: and she's gonna take a break from social media, which
Speaker 3: probably means she won't. They all say they never do,
Speaker 3: but she took a break from her podcast as well,
Speaker 3: in which she does it with Dave Portnoy and Josh Richards.
Speaker 3: So during an episode on November seventh, Chicken Fry accused
Speaker 3: Brian of being very emotional, emotionally abusive. She said that
Speaker 3: she previously didn't want to discuss their breakup because she
Speaker 3: was right about his reaction. She says that he offered
Speaker 3: her get this, twelve million dollars to stay silent about
Speaker 3: their split, but Chicken Fry said no. So she then
Speaker 3: talked about some of their nastier fights, including Brian getting
Speaker 3: maddl her with the golden globes of a dress she wore,
Speaker 3: picking a fight with her at a birthday party, picking
Speaker 3: another fight at the super Bowl party. So Brian has
Speaker 3: yet to address the abuse allegations, but especially given these allegations,
Speaker 3: you think she might feel differently about the tattoo, but.
Speaker 4: She's keeping it. So my question to you is any
Speaker 4: thoughts about what should happen with tattoos after a.
Speaker 3: Breakup and how that might relate relate to an abusive relationship?
Speaker 2: May I ask you did she did he separate with
Speaker 2: your not saying anything as in persons and streaking up
Speaker 2: in social media, which is very disrespectful kids do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like when you don't want to carry any responsibility
Speaker 2: or you're scared of the reaction of your right now
Speaker 2: you can handle it, So it's a very childish move.
Speaker 2: It's a common number one. The second thing about having uh,
Speaker 2: you know, gain to the abusive relationship. What brought you there?
Speaker 2: And you want to tell me that abuser decided to
Speaker 2: break up with the victim. Let's call here this way.
Speaker 2: When that happens in relationship, from psychology point of view,
Speaker 2: it means that he doesn't get enough energy from here
Speaker 2: and he's interested in that source of energy. Because if
Speaker 2: I would have been on your place, first of all,
Speaker 2: you have to understand what brought you there. Maybe it
Speaker 2: was abusive father, Maybe it was like something in your
Speaker 2: subconscious that you want to feel yourself under control, or
Speaker 2: you like, why do we need to be controlled? Why
Speaker 2: do you need in twenty first century to be under depression,
Speaker 2: you know so, and he's still living here, it means
Speaker 2: that probably he's you know, like tired of something that
Speaker 2: he never mentioned still, or just you know, not interested
Speaker 2: in continuation anymore after two years and a half or
Speaker 2: something like that. About the tattoos, my answer would be
Speaker 2: very different because I'm the person who carry tattoos. They
Speaker 2: all have me not about the you know, my past
Speaker 2: relationship or something like that. And I always thirty it's
Speaker 2: better never to put the name. And we had that
Speaker 2: with Angelina Jolly, which is absolutely amazing when she had
Speaker 2: to cancel the tattool take it out from your body,
Speaker 2: from your ex boyfriend. And you know, I have some
Speaker 2: tattoos that remind me little am of my grandma and yeah,
Speaker 2: they're very memorable or something like saints from Latin or
Speaker 2: Sanskrit that are very thoughtful and meaningful. But it's nothing
Speaker 2: to do with any man. And I would tell you
Speaker 2: for those people who still have reminders of their axes.
Speaker 2: And maybe you can't judge her that she doesn't want
Speaker 2: to take out this totool here. In this case, it's
Speaker 2: your own body, it's.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not her choice. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 4: it's a big deal tattoo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she wants to keep it. Yeah, it's not maybe
Speaker 2: about the boyfriend. Maybe they put something meaningful that she
Speaker 2: agrees until now, and she agree with the saying forever.
Speaker 2: But I want to tell you something different, And I
Speaker 2: didn't know it when I've been doing my tattoos because
Speaker 2: they all have been done almost in a year of
Speaker 2: the doors of my parents, when I didn't feel adult
Speaker 2: enough and I wanted to take out the pain of
Speaker 2: the divorce. So I processed it ten years ago in
Speaker 2: my own way, covering my body with tattoos, not too many,
Speaker 2: but still I have them. And they say bigger the
Speaker 2: to too big the pain. So people don't realize it,
Speaker 2: and they put sometimes on their necks and body and
Speaker 2: shoulders and arms and tones, and they think they're cool
Speaker 2: and they can do that because it's their choice. What
Speaker 2: happens to physical body? You cover your physical body, But
Speaker 2: in reality, we all have our everybody that is located
Speaker 2: and all over the shape of our body from like
Speaker 2: a couple of inches. It's invisible, and it's like invisible
Speaker 2: spiritual protection for our body, but we all have it.
Speaker 2: So it's our energetic body. When we do any kind
Speaker 2: of tattoo. Even you say like I'm in love with
Speaker 2: myself and should sound perfect for all your life, you
Speaker 2: still kill your energety. You damaged. You don't damage your
Speaker 2: energetic body even with a good saying. I didn't know
Speaker 2: that before, But everybody who's thinking about that too, think
Speaker 2: about that twice, because your energetic body will be damaged
Speaker 2: even if you cancel it from your physical body afterwards.
Speaker 2: Because I can't sell my tattoos very little.
Speaker 4: One also interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know about about her energetic body, but we
Speaker 1: all have it. No, No, I'm just thinking that the
Speaker 1: energy of twelve million dollars would help that energetic But
Speaker 1: I mean, why don't you take the twelve money? And
Speaker 1: that's you know that I don't know, but that's such
Speaker 1: a weird number that money.
Speaker 2: Nobody would talk about here, but now we are talking
Speaker 2: about here because she didn't take that true.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't poor maybe poor Annoy promised
Speaker 1: her or something. I don't know, but twelve twelve millions
Speaker 1: are weird. Twelve millions like a number of you negotiation.
Speaker 2: And then somebody's what did he tried to cover with
Speaker 2: his money? Abuse or action of abuse or what not.
Speaker 1: It sounds too Yeah, it sounds like that's what it is,
Speaker 1: is there was some kind of she's referred to it
Speaker 1: as emotional.
Speaker 2: Maybe she's preparing for court for a big amount. How
Speaker 2: do you know?
Speaker 4: Maybe did you go to court? It just broke up
Speaker 4: with her unless she has solid proof about this abuse.
Speaker 4: But I don't like that. If he was amusing her,
Speaker 4: why don't we see the abuse? Why was it talked about?
Speaker 4: What are the bruises? You can't just make this claim
Speaker 4: unless she has stuff on the phone but photos.
Speaker 1: She hasn't. She hasn't sued him yet. I mean, she
Speaker 1: may have all of this, right, she may.
Speaker 2: What was It's like what he tried to compensate?
Speaker 4: He didn't want to.
Speaker 1: He know, he had a troubled life. He certainly went
Speaker 1: to prison, so he part of what has been the
Speaker 1: draw to him is that he started, you know, performing
Speaker 1: in prison and built some word of mouth, and then
Speaker 1: when he was released. I mean, he's built a huge
Speaker 1: following in a relatively short period of time, and it's
Speaker 1: mostly it's young. You know, it's a young following.
Speaker 2: Mike, you have a wife. Okay, I don't want to
Speaker 2: give this example on you. But let's say somebody does tattoos.
Speaker 1: But she's partly part of four base.
Speaker 2: It's not about this. I wanted to raise up the
Speaker 2: question of a night separation. Let's say when people get
Speaker 2: separated and man after two years, two months, two weeks,
Speaker 2: twenty years wants to take care of a woman in
Speaker 2: a nice way and say sorry with it at match, like,
Speaker 2: I love you as a friend, but I want to
Speaker 2: make sure that you're not living in the street. And
Speaker 2: if he really wanted to take care of her, and
Speaker 2: it was not an offer but providing care, he could
Speaker 2: write a check and you know, say look into your
Speaker 2: eyes whatever it would be twelve dollars, twenty million dollars
Speaker 2: and say, don that's what I can give you because
Speaker 2: I want to make sure you're doing good.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 2: That's how you, uh, you know, separate nicely. If he
Speaker 2: wanted to be a man, good man in your memory,
Speaker 2: he tried to give him money for something? What is something?
Speaker 2: Nobody knows, so how we can discuss.
Speaker 1: It allegedly allegedly we don't know.
Speaker 4: It's also a great podcast material.
Speaker 3: It's got everybody talking about her and Dave Portnoy loves publicity.
Speaker 3: He's very good at getting himself. So this is who
Speaker 3: knows what this is gonna go. But she's a real
Speaker 3: pretty girl.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yes she is.
Speaker 4: She's a beautiful girl.
Speaker 3: This guy, I know, he is fantastically talented, but in
Speaker 3: the looks department, I don't get it at all.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, I don't see it.
Speaker 2: If she's choosing an a hell in solitude for a while,
Speaker 2: you know, to think about the life and so on,
Speaker 2: and process the separation. She does good, she does the
Speaker 2: right think.
Speaker 4: This is this is a classic example of look good
Speaker 4: for her.
Speaker 3: I don't begrudge anybody they make in this world, but
Speaker 3: it's a classic example of a girl who really didn't
Speaker 3: have any discernible talent. She got chosen to work at
Speaker 3: barstool because she was sexy and pretty.
Speaker 4: They put her on air.
Speaker 3: She's okay, I guess she's good enough at talking about
Speaker 3: life and her feelings and sex.
Speaker 1: And what have you.
Speaker 3: And now she's like the tippy top or the tip
Speaker 3: top podcasters. And on top of that, she's got the
Speaker 3: famous boyfriend. Now she's off a twelve million we're talking
Speaker 3: about it. This girl was nothing a little while ago.
Speaker 2: So it means that marketing worked very well.
Speaker 4: Oh it sure did. True.
Speaker 2: You don't know if there was an offer of twenty million,
Speaker 2: twelve twelve million, I raised it up. But you know, like,
Speaker 2: but we're already talking about it and other people know,
Speaker 2: which is great.
Speaker 1: But I know A j would also say she's talented.
Speaker 1: I mean you you can't you look. We all three
Speaker 1: of us know talk, All three of us know how
Speaker 1: challenging the podcast industry is. Right, you got absolutely you
Speaker 1: got millions of options out there, of things for people
Speaker 1: to listen to. She was whatever the combination of looks
Speaker 1: and talent was. She she had a strong enough combination
Speaker 1: for them to give her a shot. But they've had
Speaker 1: plenty of beautiful women walk into those studios and walk
Speaker 1: out without getting a show because they had no talent.
Speaker 3: So I'm saying that she started a podcast on her own,
Speaker 3: I'm not under the barstool banner.
Speaker 4: She'd be nowhere. That's my contention.
Speaker 1: We don't know that, but the fact that she's got
Speaker 1: too under the barstool banner that do very very well.
Speaker 4: And so you know.
Speaker 2: But in the same way, in the same way I
Speaker 2: can speak about myself because people know me for twelve
Speaker 2: years in psychology. But if I weren't here with you guys,
Speaker 2: you know, nobody would hear me out your four k followers.
Speaker 2: And I appreciate that. So I think it's more about
Speaker 2: how you do appreciate people who give you a hand
Speaker 2: of help, support and collaboration. That's what you have to gratitude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I think that if Mike ran Barstool,
Speaker 3: my podcast would be as big as hers right now.
Speaker 4: I just think she was at the right right place,
Speaker 4: at the right time, with the right people.
Speaker 3: His business was exploding, so we're podcasts and then here's
Speaker 3: a pretty girl with one.
Speaker 4: I think it all worked together for her perfectly.
Speaker 3: This could be the calmer part of her life k
Speaker 3: R m A, because now she's gonna have to answer
Speaker 3: possibly to some situation and get in some kind of
Speaker 3: battle that maybe she's doesn't need to do. But like
Speaker 3: you said, she's get an awful lot of awful lot
Speaker 3: of printed words about it and a lot of shitter chatter,
Speaker 3: that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, and look, I mean good looks help, yes, the absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, certainly. In in D's Gone By, they
Speaker 1: they helped catapult you to certain places, right sure, and
Speaker 1: you know, turn on the news and most of the
Speaker 1: most of the talent have some people supporters, news reporters,
Speaker 1: the these top podcasts that are that are video podcasts,
Speaker 1: or they're good looking people that people want to see,
Speaker 1: and if they have talent on top of that, well
Speaker 1: it goes up. It goes a long way. But let's
Speaker 1: go from one doomed couple to a couple that has
Speaker 1: stood the test of time. Sits in one of the
Speaker 1: strangest situations, because all we hear about these days is
Speaker 1: how the Dems hate the Republicans and the Republicans hate
Speaker 1: the Dems, and there are no more relationships that cross
Speaker 1: political party lines. Well, this is probably the most famous
Speaker 1: of all relationships that cross political lines that we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about on this week's Forever or for Now,
Speaker 1: and that involves the relationship of James Carvil and Mary Mattlin.
Speaker 1: And Carvel, for those of you who may not know,
Speaker 1: is an American political consultant, strategist, author, and professor. He
Speaker 1: taught at LSU for years. He's given much of the
Speaker 1: credit for Bill Clinton's successful nineteen ninety two campaign. That's
Speaker 1: where he first coined the term that I'm sure you've heard,
Speaker 1: which is it's the economy stupid, which was his way
Speaker 1: of saying, this is, of course the number one issue
Speaker 1: voters care about. They care about the economy. He's nicknamed
Speaker 1: the ragin Cajun. He grew up in New Orleans, as
Speaker 1: I said, and he taught for many years at LSU.
Speaker 1: I have several friends who actually had him as a
Speaker 1: professor in class. Mary Mattlin is an American political consultant
Speaker 1: well known for her work with Republican candidates. She served
Speaker 1: under Reagan and was the campaign director for George H. W. Bush.
Speaker 1: And so you think about basically competitors' rivals, and so
Speaker 1: the couple was the focus of a number of interviews
Speaker 1: the week prior to the election. Last week because of
Speaker 1: all the noise in the country about how Republicans and
Speaker 1: Democrats aren't getting along and who's going to invite who
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving? And should women tell their husbands or husbands
Speaker 1: tell their wives what they who they voted for, all
Speaker 1: of this sort of stuff. And last week we talked
Speaker 1: about the dwindling statistics of marriages that cross the political boundary,
Speaker 1: and here we have again the most famous ones. So Matlin,
Speaker 1: during one of those interviews reminded people that love can
Speaker 1: exist outside of politics. Contrary to the language of the
Speaker 1: family court system. A couple can have irreconcilable differences that
Speaker 1: don't wind up in divorce, and maybe even bring intellectual
Speaker 1: richness to the relationship, but that would depend on two
Speaker 1: partners or friends being honest about their political leanings. Our
Speaker 1: love and respect for each other is built on things
Speaker 1: other than politics, she said. Carvel and Mattlin famously fell
Speaker 1: in love while both were working as political strategies for
Speaker 1: opposite parties. Matlin said, it never occur to me that
Speaker 1: your love interest in politics would be a determinant in
Speaker 1: a relationship. But a majority of people don't want to
Speaker 1: date somebody from the other party. So a majority of
Speaker 1: people just want to like, think like they and validated
Speaker 1: twenty four twenty four to seven. So I think it's sorrowful.
Speaker 1: I don't have to agree with him, but he makes
Speaker 1: me think. So today we're going to learn from Irena
Speaker 1: our relationships Guru, what the numbers say about this famous
Speaker 1: couple and whether they are forever or for now? They've
Speaker 1: certainly been for a while, but will it be forever? Mike?
Speaker 2: You have given me already like five couples, I guess so.
Speaker 2: And this is the first couple where they have the
Speaker 2: number that is the base of their relationship is number six,
Speaker 2: which is a symbol of pure love. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: everybody meant to have a case that was at six
Speaker 2: six six six, No, maybe it was only six. So,
Speaker 2: by the way, when you see six sixty six, which
Speaker 2: contains my even phone number, and I was so happy
Speaker 2: that nobody took it in the United States because when
Speaker 2: you open up the Bible, people think it's evil.
Speaker 1: Six.
Speaker 2: It's a symbol of Venus. Venus its planet of beauty
Speaker 2: and love. And six sixty six, it's all about love.
Speaker 2: Is whatever has any number, it will be twenty seven,
Speaker 2: thirty six, I don't know, eighteen, whatever makes nine in total.
Speaker 2: It's very good luck. It's the highest number. And when
Speaker 2: you see and it's eighteen and it's nine and six.
Speaker 2: It's always about love and it's always about money.
Speaker 1: So did you see Damien's head and the omen?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And what about so DaVinci watch it again because you
Speaker 2: will see how much knowledge is hidden in numerology and
Speaker 2: how much they want everything what is religiously covered. They
Speaker 2: want to hiree this knowledge from us.
Speaker 3: Hey, guys, I have a question asked. I don't feel
Speaker 3: well in my stomach. You think you can run this
Speaker 3: without me the rest of the way. I apologize. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm really sorry.
Speaker 4: I don't feel right. I just took a bunch of
Speaker 4: toms and baseball run. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Guys, All right, right, okay, And so we are coming
Speaker 2: back to our couple and I'll see you. They have
Speaker 2: a lot of numbers in common. So we have Mary
Speaker 2: joor A Metaline who is Republican. And I didn't know
Speaker 2: neither of them, but yesterday I had a chance to
Speaker 2: look at the caravel. So she's a shining personality who
Speaker 2: can behave like on the stage. She likes to be
Speaker 2: in the center of attention. She loves yourself, she appreciates yourself,
Speaker 2: and she loves likes the celebration time of life. And
Speaker 2: you know when you get the people together, when you
Speaker 2: act consciously, when a lot of people are around and
Speaker 2: you and the center of attention, and she does it great.
Speaker 2: So as well, your career could be a law related
Speaker 2: and he could be unbelievable employee and the person of
Speaker 2: justice as well, and checks always from the point of
Speaker 2: view of power and confidence. She could be very emotional
Speaker 2: and what is your main task for this life? To
Speaker 2: embrace emotions and to figure out how to use them wisely.
Speaker 2: And he has the same number and the same task
Speaker 2: in common with her. So that's why people meet. They
Speaker 2: have all common spiritual tasks or they complete each other
Speaker 2: because they have something in opposite. So those numbers they
Speaker 2: work out better for them, because that's why they say
Speaker 2: opposite attracts. In conflict, she has tradition and marriage. So
Speaker 2: it's very funny because we have this marriage with very
Speaker 2: opposite visions and she has number five, which is simple
Speaker 2: tradition and marriage. I have no idea if she has
Speaker 2: kids or not. I don't know if your parents, let's say,
Speaker 2: welcomes him or not. And maybe this is that they
Speaker 2: have very diverse wishions in politics. Yeah, but they have,
Speaker 2: like you know, in conflict, number five, which is symbol
Speaker 2: of marriage. So as well, she could be strict when necessary,
Speaker 2: and she's the person who can create the rules. And
Speaker 2: her love past number is nine, which says that she's
Speaker 2: very philanthropic. She knows how to be a leader. She's selfless,
Speaker 2: she's not selfish at all, and she could be very
Speaker 2: artistic and unbelievably wise woman. Your son is in Leo
Speaker 2: and your moon is in sad, so it's always on
Speaker 2: fire person in a good sense of it. She is
Speaker 2: the person who can give you a niceaidvice. She can
Speaker 2: be a good leader, she can guide you, she can
Speaker 2: be very insistent. But you have to take this advice
Speaker 2: with gratitude because she is the one who like very
Speaker 2: she knows what she's doing. She is allowed with her
Speaker 2: you know, astrological aspects, to give out advices to other
Speaker 2: other people. So your venus is in cancer, which is
Speaker 2: very family oriented. Woman, extremely sensitive about him. I've seen
Speaker 2: him fifty seconds yesterday speaking about Kamala Harris, of course
Speaker 2: and commenting on her, you know, like number one lost
Speaker 2: response about which she does something else, something different from
Speaker 2: and she said no, and she said that was a
Speaker 2: reason of your loss. Okay, So what about him that
Speaker 2: he could his career could have like part of fortune.
Speaker 2: We spoke about this before, could change immediately. And he
Speaker 2: has number thirteen in a conflict, So his life could
Speaker 2: be full of transformation. I don't know about his career match,
Speaker 2: but that I do believe that in his life he
Speaker 2: had very transformative moments I don't know, it would be
Speaker 2: family health related, career related, but something that changed him
Speaker 2: like a lot, you know, and I wouldn't call it easy.
Speaker 2: That's what I see through numbers as well. He has
Speaker 2: to embrace his emotions because I guess he is emotional.
Speaker 4: Guy, and.
Speaker 2: As well, you know, it's so his past experience, like
Speaker 2: past life experience is your basic number. That's why people
Speaker 2: meet that she is what she is in this life
Speaker 2: and that's what he didn't work out in his previous incarnation.
Speaker 2: And he has to embrace the qualities of to being
Speaker 2: a shining personality because she's the type of this shining
Speaker 2: personality with number nineteen. He's the kind of person you know,
Speaker 2: like who is different, who is more? She opens him
Speaker 2: up and maybe he is like you know, speaking the
Speaker 2: way because he's very confident. He has and he knows
Speaker 2: how to talk amazing. He knows how to be very strategic,
Speaker 2: and he has life past number which is eight. It's
Speaker 2: strong leadership, achievement, practical, financial, So he wouldn't do something
Speaker 2: that makes no rism, you know, he wouldn't risk. He's
Speaker 2: like very very like down to earth guy for here,
Speaker 2: you know, through eight, she grows because she is not
Speaker 2: more being in center of attention. He's more about achieving
Speaker 2: the result. So they grow together through each other. His
Speaker 2: scorpio that you know, Scorpios their own animis because they
Speaker 2: have NonStop dialogue in their head. It doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: he is this way. I don't know the guy exactly,
Speaker 2: you know, more than fifteen seconds that I've seen of him.
Speaker 2: But I have to tell you they're usually not easy
Speaker 2: for themselves because you know, they are very thirtful, too thirtful.
Speaker 2: They are like can kill themselves with their own thirds,
Speaker 2: NonStop process. His moon is very friendly, which is Aquarius,
Speaker 2: easy going. People like him. He can you know, bring
Speaker 2: a lot of people together, being very open minded, let's
Speaker 2: call it this way. But his planet of faction, which
Speaker 2: is Martin scorpio as well. So I don't know, like
Speaker 2: I don't know if he is a person of argument
Speaker 2: or when he will be very convincing or given some pressure.
Speaker 2: But that's what Ostrolsoy speaks about, you know, and moon
Speaker 2: or Venosaur, a planet of love, is in such it's
Speaker 2: a lot of fire as well. I mean probably he's
Speaker 2: like a dominative man, you know, like but women like
Speaker 2: that type of when man is on fire, you know
Speaker 2: in this sense because such is usually very like sexual
Speaker 2: and wise and guiding power sign so emotions and new
Speaker 2: life together. This is the first couple again who has
Speaker 2: zero or twenty two that almost never happened. So since
Speaker 2: they met, life of both people changed completely like new page,
Speaker 2: new life. And I never saw through examples and even
Speaker 2: with my clients that they make zero in total. So
Speaker 2: that's why they met to start new life together, to
Speaker 2: start from scratch. Fourteen. They create a lot of balance together.
Speaker 2: Their common task to balance each other, to have common
Speaker 2: activity that will bring them and success and recognition and
Speaker 2: fame and glory and money. And I have this n
Speaker 2: That's why I know what brings you ten six is
Speaker 2: the base of their relationship. It's communication business together. I
Speaker 2: don't know if they have it or not, but they
Speaker 2: can make it because it will bring them money and
Speaker 2: pure love as well care. It brings them to their
Speaker 2: achieving the goal and as well.
Speaker 1: You know, they have to.
Speaker 2: Study NonStop or get a new knowledge non stop. That
Speaker 2: was make them comfortable to be next to each other.
Speaker 2: That's why I think they're curious about each other because
Speaker 2: they always study. They have twelve in common so they
Speaker 2: have always to study, always to grow. I'm not speaking spiritually,
Speaker 2: I'm speaking about from knowledge points view. So you come
Speaker 2: my home and you tell me like something new, and
Speaker 2: I do the same. So that's how we grow. So
Speaker 2: that's what they're doing as a couple. They're always interested
Speaker 2: in each other. I think that's their you know, ability
Speaker 2: to grow together. As well. They have you know, rules
Speaker 2: and mistakes are worked out, so they are probably did
Speaker 2: a lot of maybe there were people who created too
Speaker 2: many rules we were living by the rules were very
Speaker 2: organized or I don't know, like symbol of am fire
Speaker 2: a person who tells you what to do in this life.
Speaker 2: So that's what they have been doing in previous life.
Speaker 2: Again from numerology point of view, and that's what they have.
Speaker 2: They have to be a little bit lighter in this life,
Speaker 2: you know, not to press people too much with their rules.
Speaker 2: And I don't know what they are. I'm telling you
Speaker 2: what I see, you know, and as well, the common
Speaker 2: task together is zero. Again, it's like to start new life.
Speaker 2: So whatever happens, even if they have fights at home,
Speaker 2: I think they find the way to say it's not
Speaker 2: important all of it. So that's what important. And as well,
Speaker 2: these are karmic relationships and only money issues can ruin them.
Speaker 2: But what is important in this case that both partners
Speaker 2: have to make money together. Even one person makes little bit,
Speaker 2: another person makes a lot, they have to make money
Speaker 2: separately and together.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think their history is kind of the
Speaker 1: fact that they do it separately, but do it in
Speaker 1: the same industry, doing the same things. It's sort of together,
Speaker 1: even though it's even though it's separate. But I think
Speaker 1: what's fascinating about them that a lot of people could
Speaker 1: learn from is that, you know, Carvell is not one
Speaker 1: of the Democrats that shift the truth or distort reality
Speaker 1: in a big way. He's a very smart man who's
Speaker 1: always been about policies and believing in those policies and
Speaker 1: being able to articulate a position around those policies. That's intelligent.
Speaker 1: The Democrat Party has drifted from that in a great way.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you just think about this election, this
Speaker 1: election was about trying to create disdain for the opponent,
Speaker 1: or even greater disdain for the opponent, and not about
Speaker 1: a set of policies that they could get behind and
Speaker 1: talk about with conviction. And so they're a throwback to
Speaker 1: the way politics used to be, and I think where
Speaker 1: politics should be, which is about a set of beliefs,
Speaker 1: beliefs convictions around a way of governing, a vision for
Speaker 1: how a country should operate. I mean that's where those
Speaker 1: two sort of come from. And if you're going to
Speaker 1: hold political discourse exclusively around policy, I think you can
Speaker 1: do that and still be a couple and be happy
Speaker 1: because you're constantly educating each other and that's sort of
Speaker 1: the story of their life. I'm not surprised. This is
Speaker 1: the one couple that I'm not surprised. I gave you
Speaker 1: that you came back with they should be together. I've
Speaker 1: given you other ones that I thought for sure you
Speaker 1: were going to come back and say they don't belong together.
Speaker 1: I don't know how they they ended up together, but
Speaker 1: this one is definitely opposite.
Speaker 2: You are pure a love, pure pure love. But you know,
Speaker 2: in this case, I have to tell you something. If
Speaker 2: you think about life, even we met, we are not
Speaker 2: a couple. You know, a wife of your best friend.
Speaker 2: I doorge arian, but we learn something from each other.
Speaker 2: So if you think wisely about the life and how
Speaker 2: universe put people together, if you're smart enough and even
Speaker 2: though you have a bad lesson or destructive lesson for you.
Speaker 2: If you're smart enough, you can always grow through that.
Speaker 2: So I wish people to numbers as your helpful instrument
Speaker 2: to understand why you met that you met, that's your business,
Speaker 2: that's your responsibility, you know, or the universe put you
Speaker 2: two together. But why you med? So this is what important.
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't say there is any bad union on
Speaker 2: the planet. Yes, there are people not match and we
Speaker 2: can do it maybe more astrologically, so people can understand
Speaker 2: the characters better because numbers, they just help you out
Speaker 2: to understand the energy brought those two together. And in
Speaker 2: this case it's energy of love and the case of
Speaker 2: for other couples I don't remember, like Kamala Harris and
Speaker 2: this it's more about you know, achievement and what they're
Speaker 2: doing it. But they're meant to be together to shake
Speaker 2: hands and you know, do something together, you know in
Speaker 2: somebody else cas is to give, to deliver a kid
Speaker 2: and so on. So it's always meant to be. But
Speaker 2: why that where numerology helps you out?
Speaker 1: Interesting? Really interesting? Well, we are a man down, folks
Speaker 1: with lost Like ten minutes ago, he just started feeling.
Speaker 2: Like crap, And do you feel ampty without him? You
Speaker 2: have to grow?
Speaker 1: No, I do not feel empty without him. But we
Speaker 1: are flying in the missing man formation, as they say.
Speaker 1: And this was a story that he was going to do,
Speaker 1: but it's one that came about because of a an
Speaker 1: interest I had because of something so recently, I tried
Speaker 1: to get my wife and I've spent more time apart
Speaker 1: in the past few months than we've ever spent because
Speaker 1: we were moving from one city to another at the
Speaker 1: same time. Her her father's ill, and and so we
Speaker 1: we were apart more often than we'd really ever been apart.
Speaker 1: And I would try occasionally and howl at the time,
Speaker 1: I was just kidding, trying to get her to have
Speaker 1: a little bit of phone sex, right, But she never
Speaker 1: took me seriously and just sort of dismissed me on
Speaker 1: the on the phone sex thing. And so I turned
Speaker 1: to chat GPT this week and asked it for some
Speaker 1: advice about phone sex and whether phone sex was you know,
Speaker 1: is it okay? Is it just wrong and gross and
Speaker 1: foul or you know what is What does the AI
Speaker 1: have to say about phone sex? And and so the
Speaker 1: response is really surprised me. So Chat GPT says that
Speaker 1: you should Whether it's okay to have phone sex is
Speaker 1: a personal decision and that depends on your individual circumstances
Speaker 1: and preferences. But if you're going to have phone sex,
Speaker 1: here are some things that you should consider.
Speaker 6: There are no guidelines for that, guidelines coming from chatch
Speaker 6: EPT for cone sets.
Speaker 1: So the first thing it says is you should ask
Speaker 1: outright about body preference words before you have any kind
Speaker 1: of sexy relations with someone. You should find out what
Speaker 1: nouns and adjectives they like for their bits and bobs.
Speaker 1: Find out what words make them feel sexy and feel good.
Speaker 1: The easiest way to do that is to share what
Speaker 1: words you like. For example, quote, I like when you
Speaker 1: call my pussy a pussy or vagina, but I have
Speaker 1: a negative association with the C word. What words make
Speaker 1: you feel best? So now that's that's interesting.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you didn't ask me, Mike, because it was
Speaker 2: just their whole text.
Speaker 1: Really I hate so I hate the C word too,
Speaker 1: and our friend who's.
Speaker 2: And we didn't know before to come to the United States.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what.
Speaker 1: I never heard.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I can explain it to me.
Speaker 1: I asked what it is. There isn't equivalent slang that
Speaker 1: you we do.
Speaker 2: We do, but you know this word because initially my
Speaker 2: English was came from Great Britain, and honestly, you know,
Speaker 2: they don't teach you in school this Like already here
Speaker 2: hearing some you know, like when people talk. I heard
Speaker 2: it when somebody was very rude to the other woman
Speaker 2: and he said that, and I said, what does it mean?
Speaker 2: Because I didn't realize the pronunciation, you know, like when
Speaker 2: we say, oh, I can't do something, you know, I
Speaker 2: thought it's a word. I didn't realize what it is.
Speaker 2: So I was explained by my husband what it is, and.
Speaker 1: It pretty much I mean AJ aside not you know,
Speaker 1: there's no accounting for AJ. But to me, it's the
Speaker 1: worst thing you can ever say. Too. Yeah, it's it.
Speaker 1: I'm never ever, ever ever used that's the lowers.
Speaker 2: It means like I don't know, yeah, right.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 1: Certainly wouldn't enter phone sex. But anyway, that's that's what
Speaker 1: they say. Is is you know, ask outright about body
Speaker 1: preference words. Familiarize yourself with the lingo of love making.
Speaker 1: Thanks to the abysmal sex education in the US, most
Speaker 1: of our sexicon doesn't go beyond vagina, breasts, condom, and sex.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the kind of language they would teach
Speaker 1: you in school. So if you're not used to talking
Speaker 1: about sex or your body in non medical ways, phone
Speaker 1: sex is going to be hard. So you've got to
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Speaker 1: here's some here's some ways that you can expand your vocabulary,
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Speaker 1: answer some quick questions and they'll give you a bunch
Speaker 1: of ideas about some of the language. You could also
Speaker 1: read erotica. What could what could be a better way
Speaker 1: to up your dirty dictionary than uh than to just
Speaker 1: read about it? And uh you could uh, you could
Speaker 1: set the scene. So even if you never plan to
Speaker 1: introduce video to your sex session. You know, you need
Speaker 1: to limit distraction, so if you're paying attention to the
Speaker 1: cat or checking email notifications or something that just popped
Speaker 1: up on your phone, your partner will sense that you're preoccupied.
Speaker 1: So chat GPT offers the following steps for setup. Flip
Speaker 1: your phone to do not disturb mode, turn off all
Speaker 1: other technology, clean your room, set the space to a
Speaker 1: comfortable temperature. Put your pleasure props in an easy to
Speaker 1: reach place, so you got to have whatever your toys
Speaker 1: are somewhere where you can get at them. Play tunes,
Speaker 1: avoiding sites that play commercials, so don't put on the radio,
Speaker 1: but put on a playlist that melodically fits the mood
Speaker 1: you're trying to establish. Light candles, you know, and dim
Speaker 1: the lights. So okay, I get the mood. The mood
Speaker 1: setters there getting started. Chat GPT says your room is
Speaker 1: clean and the green light from your part uh. And
Speaker 1: you now have the green light from your partner to
Speaker 1: phone bone. That's a new term I hadn't heard before.
Speaker 6: And uh uh.
Speaker 1: And then they give some advice for uh, for starting out,
Speaker 1: and we don't have to get deep into to all
Speaker 1: that device, but they talk about masturbation and uh, you
Speaker 1: know how you can get things started with a little
Speaker 1: bit of masturbating.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And you know, here's here's to me, what you know,
Speaker 1: to me, if you're going to have if I could
Speaker 1: convince my wife to have phone sex, this is what
Speaker 1: would get me going. Is the you know, explaining what
Speaker 1: you're doing from you know, taking off your shirt to
Speaker 1: sliding a finger inside of you somewhere to walking someone
Speaker 1: step by step through what you're doing and how you're
Speaker 1: touching yourself and and all that and going slow and
Speaker 1: you know, just teasing. But to me, that would be to.
Speaker 2: Creative visual around it, so you can imagine picture your
Speaker 2: wife did it in reality.
Speaker 1: Exactly and you know maybe back college, uh even high
Speaker 1: school did a little bit of uh of that. But uh,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what I'm gonna have to do
Speaker 1: to uh well, first of all, we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: be a part, and uh we haven't been a part
Speaker 1: in a little while. But I thought, first of all,
Speaker 1: it's amazing that that chat GPT is, uh is this about?
Speaker 1: This is this current on phone sacks and actually using
Speaker 1: lingo that's you know, non anti Usually the answers you
Speaker 1: get from chat GPT, you're pretty antiseptic. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: they're using those words from school kind of thing. But
Speaker 1: this was, you know, a very sort of hip response.
Speaker 1: So uh so let me let me turn to the expert.
Speaker 1: And uh, I know you're not gonna tell me, but
Speaker 1: I know you were in France for a while while
Speaker 1: and he was here after you two met, so and
Speaker 1: knowing Kenny, I know he would have at least given
Speaker 1: it a shot, you know, and I could guess how
Speaker 1: how Kenny See, here's what matters to Kenny. So if
Speaker 1: Kenny was trying to get you to do phone sex,
Speaker 1: he would he would want you to talk about his penis.
Speaker 1: That would be his first big did you do the sex?
Speaker 6: One?
Speaker 4: Was?
Speaker 2: My husband was how do you know the details? Okay?
Speaker 1: So I played sports with your husband our entire life,
Speaker 1: and so there's no telling how many times we were
Speaker 1: in a locker room shower next to each other. And
Speaker 1: I know what he what he does, Kenny has, so
Speaker 1: what he does, Kenny is more obsessed with the male
Speaker 1: organ than gay men are.
Speaker 2: I mean, he just he I'm totally fine because I'm
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 1: Are you the same?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: So I'll give you a little thing when I was this,
Speaker 2: and I use so many manifesting techniques to you know,
Speaker 2: to manifest my husband how he's going to look like.
Speaker 2: And yes, of course usually women they there is one technique.
Speaker 2: You have to write down everything you want to have
Speaker 2: in your husband. Like he's told he's smart, he's intelligent,
Speaker 2: he's wise, he's noble, whatever he is. So one of
Speaker 2: the big points for me it was a big dick.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm speaking not like a relationship expert now,
Speaker 2: but as a woman. For me, it was important. And
Speaker 2: you know, maybe it's not the right thing to tell
Speaker 2: for four thousand women listening to me promoting my own husband,
Speaker 2: but I mean, like, I got what I want so
Speaker 2: and I think this is important, you.
Speaker 1: Know, to say to four thousand women that he's got
Speaker 1: a big winker.
Speaker 2: I mean no, it doesn't mean that I want to disrespect.
Speaker 2: You know that everybody is individual, and for me it
Speaker 2: was important. For me, it was and I don't know,
Speaker 2: like even symbolically, you know, when we speak about the
Speaker 2: penis from psychological point of view, it's follows follows. It's
Speaker 2: something magnificent, it's power, and I take it even from
Speaker 2: energetical point of view, it's unbelievable because you know, just
Speaker 2: think that man has something that women don't have. Our
Speaker 2: power is hidden power, spiritual power, when men have visible power.
Speaker 2: So that's what their follows is about in all senses.
Speaker 2: And I think this is great and I like and
Speaker 2: he s tempered his character, and that's how we were
Speaker 2: attracted because of course women and men. We attracted first
Speaker 2: of all sexually and visually. And after you start to
Speaker 2: dive into the person under said, Oh why by the way,
Speaker 2: she's smart or she's intelligent, so she's kind, so she's
Speaker 2: you know, caring. Yeah, this is extra. But first of all,
Speaker 2: you look how he looks, like if he has a
Speaker 2: nice sense of humor, you know, if you like, and
Speaker 2: after if you're like, you know, you are on it
Speaker 2: and you're wow, I want this guy. You know, I
Speaker 2: want this woman. She's really sexy, you know, that's what
Speaker 2: I want because sometimes you see half naked women and
Speaker 2: you don't want her because she doesn't give this energy
Speaker 2: a wife of sex. So coming back to us, we
Speaker 2: never had like it's cool, you know, we had some things,
Speaker 2: you know, going back and forth, but it wasn't really
Speaker 2: direct conversation because when never had a chance to be
Speaker 2: apart that long he left and he got back to
Speaker 2: pick me up, and you know, and she said, that's
Speaker 2: what I want, like wait for me, and you know,
Speaker 2: and since then we've been all time together, you know,
Speaker 2: even during daytime, we spend ninety percent together. But I
Speaker 2: see nothing wrong for a woman to celebrate the dick
Speaker 2: of your husband and you know, give as much attention
Speaker 2: as possible to it in the morning, in the night,
Speaker 2: you know, to start the day like that or finish
Speaker 2: the day like that. Why Because for men, it's his
Speaker 2: feeling of being powerful. And women should be praised for
Speaker 2: their beauty, for their you know, like sensitivity, for their sexuality,
Speaker 2: and men should be praised for their power, for their
Speaker 2: decision making, for their like action. And I think if
Speaker 2: we would be in all senses celebrating each other every
Speaker 2: day and sexually and emotional and mentally, even if it
Speaker 2: sounds like a fairy tale, that's how I built up
Speaker 2: my marriage. This is the only way I thought. When
Speaker 2: I spoke to Kenny, I told him, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 2: will be very briefly, I want a good relationship or
Speaker 2: nothing not because it was not ultimated. Because he came
Speaker 2: to the way of our life. When we met, he
Speaker 2: was so exhausted by you know, other patterns and scenarios
Speaker 2: of his life. When he had like, I don't want
Speaker 2: like to disrespect and speak about his personal life, but
Speaker 2: he said I want the same. So we came to
Speaker 2: each other at the same points of view when we
Speaker 2: wanted to open up sexually, emotionally to speak what we
Speaker 2: want to speak, like if I'm angry, I'm not shout
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, oh darn, could he explain because
Speaker 2: I didn't understand. Don't forget we have language barrier as well.
Speaker 2: We don't have sexual barrier or emotional barrier, mental barrier,
Speaker 2: but we still came from different ages and mentalities nationalities,
Speaker 2: so at the beginning it took time to explain each other,
Speaker 2: never sexually, about all other senses. So I have to
Speaker 2: tell you, I think it's so cool when you play
Speaker 2: with each other every day. You now, I don't know,
Speaker 2: grab the unit of your husband while going to kitchen
Speaker 2: and just and I remember you, I see you here,
Speaker 2: so always you know, yeah, here is each other up,
Speaker 2: but that's what you're doing, or kiss each other or
Speaker 2: huck we know, or play make a joke about it.
Speaker 2: So your husband always knows woo you're paying attention to
Speaker 2: that part, otherwise he will go and get attention somewhere else.
Speaker 2: Do I want that?
Speaker 4: Know?
Speaker 1: I love that's that is that is great, the worshiping
Speaker 1: of your husband's fallas and you know he's worshiped it
Speaker 1: most of his life. Yeah, it's perfect that you've that,
Speaker 1: You've gotten, You've gotten on board.
Speaker 2: So our last segment of UH, I tried to be
Speaker 2: aj for the last five minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did, you did.
Speaker 2: I tried to act his style that has to cover
Speaker 2: up for my you know my body.
Speaker 1: You did well, you did good, AJ. So for our
Speaker 1: last segment, I want to talk about somebody, and maybe
Speaker 1: it's not somebody famous, just somebody that that has gotten
Speaker 1: to you sexier as they've gotten older, whether that you
Speaker 1: know they at fifty or fifty five to you are
Speaker 1: more attractive than they were when they were thirty or
Speaker 1: thirty five, et cetera. Do you do you have anybody
Speaker 1: who fits that mold? We got to leave Kenny out
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: I will tell you this is when I saw his
Speaker 2: picture on their refrigerator and I saw his mustache. Actually
Speaker 2: I complimented him. I said, you look much better now
Speaker 2: because I'm not big fun of that, but he is
Speaker 2: example of this. But I will speak about the woman
Speaker 2: that I absolutely adore, and I mentioned her before, and
Speaker 2: I think that she really does look much better than
Speaker 2: she used to be before. And it's Angelina Joy not
Speaker 2: because I want to give you a classic answer. If
Speaker 2: you look at her, she had some extra weight when
Speaker 2: she was younger. Maybe as a man you appreciate it
Speaker 2: because she had you know, all parts of the body,
Speaker 2: but me as a woman, and we are always finding
Speaker 2: for the weight loss. And I looked at her, and
Speaker 2: I looked at her face right now, at every angle,
Speaker 2: she's unbelievably perfect, aging so beautifully. And I think maybe
Speaker 2: it's her spiritual work on maybe because she's working hard
Speaker 2: or whatever she's doing. I don't know. I think she's stunning.
Speaker 2: I don't know about her character. I never heard her
Speaker 2: peatures as a person. I know she's practicing, like trying
Speaker 2: to be one and you're always like trying to give
Speaker 2: some answers about spirituality. But I never heard fully any
Speaker 2: of your interviews. I just admire your beauty, that's part.
Speaker 2: I know she's doing great, better than she was when
Speaker 2: she was younger. In my wision. What about you, Mike, Well.
Speaker 1: It's funny, I've never been in Angelina, Joel. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know why. But first I'm gonna mention my
Speaker 1: wife because you know, you you never know how someone
Speaker 1: is going to age. You know, you fall in love
Speaker 1: when you're younger, and you know, we just celebrated last
Speaker 1: week twenty six years of maraitulations. Thank you and congratulations
Speaker 1: on your it is six year support.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just one year married, but I realized we
Speaker 2: are so close. You're in November seven, Yeah.
Speaker 1: One one day apart from each other. But my wife,
Speaker 1: I think is sexier today, looks better today than she
Speaker 1: ever looked in her life. And my wife is really
Speaker 1: really attractive, athletic, had a great body at twenty five,
Speaker 1: but still has that great body at she's going to
Speaker 1: be fifty five, and that's something you you know, you
Speaker 1: rarely see is somebody who takes that good care of
Speaker 1: themselves for that long and still I mean, she still
Speaker 1: looks great in a bikini at age fifty five. So
Speaker 1: definitely definitely my wife. But somebody we've talked about the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks for different reasons on the show.
Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman to me is somebody as an actress just
Speaker 1: gets prettier with age.
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's what was my loss. I just said,
Speaker 2: because I'm a big fan of your acting and she's
Speaker 2: doing better and better. I agree one hundred percent on
Speaker 2: both your choices and your wife and Nicole Kidman, she's miazing.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, did you did you get to watch
Speaker 1: Lion as yet?
Speaker 2: We just started yesterday? Okay, Yeah, she's cool. But did
Speaker 2: she didn't participate too much at the beginning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, she's She's not the main character, but she's
Speaker 1: a big she's a big part of the series. Well, folks,
Speaker 1: we hope that a J. By the way, we you know,
Speaker 1: we have the camera uh focused on his desk in
Speaker 1: his new apartment, and I don't know if he's come
Speaker 1: out of the bathroom.
Speaker 2: Since, which is so much.
Speaker 1: A J. If you can hear us, we hope you're
Speaker 1: feeling better, buddy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, we were missed you, especially on the episode
Speaker 2: number four. I think a J would add a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff to that. But we get a chance to
Speaker 2: get to know each other better.
Speaker 1: Well we uh, we got a lot about about you
Speaker 1: and Kenny and your life together. So that was good.
Speaker 1: So Arena, thank you again and A J hope you're
Speaker 1: feeling better, and folks, thanks keep telling people to download show,
Speaker 1: to give us some ratings and reviews and and share
Speaker 1: what you can share, okay, and thank.
Speaker 2: You for giving me an idea. I will think more
Speaker 2: and more about training the avatar for Gemini and Amy
Speaker 2: because now it's a lot of work going on around that.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm not too much on social media. Besides podcasting,
Speaker 2: that's the major aspect of my November because I want
Speaker 2: to surprise people on Christmas and New Year with good
Speaker 2: quality tiefsenter advices about relationship and hopefully it will happen.
Speaker 1: It's such an amazing idea. I mean, they're just there's
Speaker 1: just so many times during the day, a single day,
Speaker 1: where I would be yeah.
Speaker 2: I just really really want. I know, not everybody has
Speaker 2: enough money, time energy to go and visit psychologists, So
Speaker 2: I hope that everybody will have their some kind of
Speaker 2: home personal therapist or counselor you can call it, see
Speaker 2: the way who will help them out guide them. But
Speaker 2: always people have to remember it's your life, and it's
Speaker 2: your responsibility, and it's your personal decision. And trust your God.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's a really big idea and I'm
Speaker 1: excited to see what it looks like so soon. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Thanks Arena, Thanks everybody. We will see you next week.
Speaker 1: On relationships is a bit Bye,