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Speaker 1: Maddie asks, how would you rank these projects in terms

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of your hype level as of today? He put up

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Doomsday doing three Spearmen, and the Odyssey for a little

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Maddie Verba Cheery put I voted Doomsday as my most

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anticipate for gold geeks. So this might be a recency biased,

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but man, fresh off that Dune three trailer, I think

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do this saying this top spot for me. Don't need

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to see a single frame more. With that said, I

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will likely see Doomsday first due to fear of spoilers.

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That's a good point. We'll talk about doing in just

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a second here. So it's a good U transition kind

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of you, though, Mattie, your next question is gonna buger

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us up with us? Okay, Yeah, we're rank those projects

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right now, Doom, doing Doomsday, doing three Spearmen in the aus.

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go Spidy number one. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna have to

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go Spidy number one, and then I'll go sorry, what

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was the fourth after.

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Speaker 1: Your Odyssey and Dune? Doomsday? Avengers?

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Speaker 2: Oh fuck Avengers too?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, holy shit, Kay, Yeah, I'm gonna do I'm gonna

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go Spidy, Dune, Doomsday, and then Odyssey, purely on the

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fact that I just got two trailers for those those

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top two on my list, So that's like fresh in.

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Speaker 1: The mind, right, Are you fucking kidding me? I'm just

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gonna become a solo person cast it really is, my honesty. Last,

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honestly below Doomsday is criminal Kirkland.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, fine, I'll swap those. I'll swap criminals fair enough.

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I'll go Outysty third, then Doomsday fourth. I don't know

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if that makes it better or worse. I mean, I'm

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still under the impression Dune is just not coming out

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this year. I'm just kind of willing then.

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Speaker 1: To even the trailer dating it this week.

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Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, I guess you got a good point, like

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they could do anything, right, man, I just feel like

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that I'm losing that argument me too.

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Speaker 1: I I didn't put in my the Mike when he

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did the box office draft. Me and Mike both didn't

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put in our top ten because I thought they would move.

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But the fact also you can move anything, right. We've

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covered before camera which movie was, Remember there was a

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movie that dropped a trailer then a week after there

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delayed the movie even that of dates so they can

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easily do that. I just felt like that was like like,

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now we're not scared, We're gonna We're still gonna come out,

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you know. And like I was like, oh right, there's

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a good article too that I think Hollywood Reporter put

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out that like even the industry is very divided because

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theater people are like, actually, this could be really great

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because we want big theaters, we want people to come

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in and see stuff. But then there's other people like

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they could hurt each other. People that are like they

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could fuck over Jamanju, which is the week before which

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people might be like, I'm not seeing Jamanji if I'm here,

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that's just round up say they're just both three hour movies.

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So with that, before we continue Mike's Play Expedition thirty three. Absolutely,

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that's another same thing. Cyberpunk has is coming to Xbox

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Games Pass this month. I always want to try it, right,

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so and it'd be different if I wasn't buying a

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lot of new games to review for side quests here.

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But it's like I did Res, I'm doing Bond, I'm

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doing Batman. I'll be on GTA, I'll be on other stuff.

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got a premium Space Marine two just came to the

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gotta we gotta jump in there. We can force Taylor

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into it. Likes Fate Arcs, whatever the fun we.

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He'll just tell me, Oh, trust don't worry. I'll be

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on in five minutes. Forty five minutes. Layer Tress in

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there with his dick in his hands, could have been

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getting laid. But no, I'm sitting awaying for Ted. It's like, okay, cool,

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but no, Mike, I do want to play because I've

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heard such great things about it, but I with both

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six hours right there. Yeah, previews are usually we'll say

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half an hour each. So that's three and a half

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travel time you're looking at, Because what did I get

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to I got to six and a half seven, So

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you're looking what pretty much between depending where you live,

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get pop You're gonna show up early, get popcorn, because

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as and we always are honest with you guys, as

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a podcaster that fucks us over so much monetization wise.

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I'm not even joking because the SEO and stuff, because

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the Doomsday review, it's gonna be there. But if we

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have to, because we will review Doomsday, like Mike Mattie said,

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for spoilers. First, my ideal world is, I hope you

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can line up where we all we should probably talk

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when we get closer. We all need to take the

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Friday off. We see these movies, we review them, we

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put the Doom review at first, and then Doomsday because

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Doomsday whatever people think, will do bigger, right. But the

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problem with a lot of algorithms on Apple and Spotify,

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still click on it. But the first episode show is Doom,

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so lots of people just go, oh, they didn't actually

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review that, so then they move along right you want it.

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podcast charts, we used to chart all the time, like Arden,

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finnywoarn ennying reviews at one point like five for just

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and it hurts both those right, and even then they

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gonna be Doctor Doom. He's gonna fuck some shit up, right.

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them reviews a little poor or if they're God forbid

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a fucking weird book. Have you heard that before?

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marketing this as the epic conclusion. We're Marvel suos to

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friday off. I'll pitch it to the boys to to

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mad dash to stay away from everything, right, chats, youtubes,

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like if the screenings are early. I have no problems

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seeing them both back back. I love doing duple features.

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I just don't want that that long one. But so, Mattie,

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you asked for hype. You didn't ask for I know

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it's different. I know the Sun's done, but for anticipation

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when I anticipate something that's like I really like this

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Dune doomsday thing, like oh, I want to say this

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goes when you ask him by hype. That's a different

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list because I am technically more anticipated for Doomsday than

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Spider Man, because I think I just want to see

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what the mess Doomsday could be or how they pull

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off the Hail Mary right. But for my hype levels,

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it goes awesty it's tough, so it's definitely the bottom

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two is definitely Spider Man Doomsday. I have Doomsday laugh

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because my hype is not there for Doomsday right now.

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I'm sure will be well as we get there. I'm

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excited to see all those returning characters and once the

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marketing starts, great. But honesty is tough because versus doing three,

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because honesty is done by Nolan, who to me is

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the goat and I love almost all his films, and

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I think we're gonna get some special where Dune that

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June two to me is one of the race movies

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of all time, and this is the follow up to it, right,

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so no one's made a couple of those to me,

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the reason I give the Aussey the edges because when

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people tell me all like doom Assiah is weird, That's

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where it's like, what if that doesn't transfer on screen? Right?

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Like what if there is some issues with making that

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into a film that could still probably only be three hours.

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Dooing three has a bigger chance to stumble. I'm not

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saying they will. I trust the knee, but I'm just

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saying if you were asked me, Hey, if you were

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if Kirkham was a fortune teller and he's like, hey,

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one of these movies ends up rawding. Is it doing

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three or Odyssey? I'm taking Dooing three every time. I

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don't think Odyssey's gonna be rowden. In my opinion, I

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think doing three could take some big swings up. People

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are like, fuck, like they did what with the Worm, Like,

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I don't think I'd want to do anything with that,

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and yet Spider Man then Doomsday spider Man. Like, I'm

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not like I'm hyped for, but I'm still cautiously. I'm

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more hyped now after this trailer. I'm very excited for

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birth Nodol. That's what I'm very excited for, to get

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Punisher in there, so I've got to see more of it.

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But the suit the shots, looking very forward to that.

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And then Maddy asked, Patson recently said, and if that

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Batman two will take some big swings and be very

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different from the first film, and he quick takes us

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what he could be referring to. Also random stat pretty wild,

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how Pat passins and they have three movies together coming

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out this year. It is crazy because they got the drama,

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they got Odyssey because she's in Odyssey, and then they

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got doing three. So that is funny how that all

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worked out, because yeah, I remember the day said that.

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I think she said like they had never even met before,

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and now they worked together like three times in a row,

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so hopefully it's good. We're gonna talk about doing the

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second here, but big, like it's tough. I do think

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with how long The Batman's taken and with Matt Reeves,

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I think there probably is big swings. I feel like,

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of course the actor's gonna say that, right, Like he's

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contractingly obligated to do this movie, So if they ask him,

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I don't think he'd be like, yeah, Matt really filmed

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this one in like we waved this long time. Yeah,

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we waited so long, and Matt really fucking shit the bed,

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you know, like remember when James Gunna became the DC

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head and said flash from the grays per movies all time.

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So that's where it's like, I can only take it

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so far. I think, to me what I've always said,

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and I still stand by this. The biggest swing would

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be that they're gonna gender swap two Face and it's

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not gonna be Dent, It's gonna be scar Joe because

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Scargo's playing his wife. And that's what I because even

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Matt Reeves and Matt Thomson's like, oh, we're getting someone

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with the villain's never been done before again, could that

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just be bullshit? And it's just two Face And she's like, well,

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our version of two face never done. Sure, but I

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think a big swing because I think pass and who

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I think is a fan of Colm Books would know

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reading that making two face a woman this time, that

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is a big swing, and there's gonna be some people

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not like happy with that. So I feel like it's

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I feel like that's just a big swing I can

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think of off the bat I don't know about other stuff.

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I hope it's not too different, because when he said

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it's very different, I hope not. Like I do want more,

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like not just the same movie, but like I want

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more of the Batman. So I don't want to be like,

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I don't want to be radically different. I want to

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just be more of the same with some new story

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and of course some variations, right, but uh yeah, that's

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what That's what my prediction is. Something with the villain.

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But you got anything there? Do you think it would

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be a big swing?

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Speaker 2: I mean my mind just goes to like a more

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I guess, less grounded type of villain. Like you know,

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Batman does have some freak shows that he that he

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faces off with right clay faces of the world.

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Speaker 3: What's that like?

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Speaker 2: Undead guy that like can't die at all? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I'm not saying we're getting this guy in this movie,

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but like that's that's a freak show type villain that

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would be very different than what we've seen with like

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Paul Dano's. But I think kind of what you're pitching

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is probably the more likely situation of just like a

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different rendition of the character the Cape Crusader man. I

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love the different versions of the villains that we saw

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in that with with Harley Quinn that was so awesome.

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The gender swapped Penguin that was really really fun and

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just just a fresh coat of paint right on a

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character we've seen so many times before. And I mean,

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I'm sure there's people that hate that for stupid to

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ask reasons, but it's it is fun for me, and

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I feel like, like I feel like the majority of people.

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Speaker 1: Gets air. It's like the people this week, like I

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like luckily know an artists, Like people were saying it

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was stupid, but no one made big deal of it.

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But people when I was searching clips and sing stuff,

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we're just losing their mind at these two second clips

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of the trailer, Like I can't believe someone would do this.

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It's such a stud way dude, Like they're just killing

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their momentum. Just release the trailer. It's just like, no,

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you know why because what happened. My sister texted me

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to be like, hey, is this Spermen trailer out? Yeah? Like,

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can you send me a link so I know it's

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the right one? Here it is. That's how the GI

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does this. Man, they're not fucking online being like there's

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two sayings like whenever I got mad the Avengers in

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the chair thing, it's like, no one really gives a fuck,

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you know, like you know, really like real people give

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a fuck. There's just so much fake outrage. Like you don't.

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You probably listen to stress, but I ran about the

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whole Timity show me and the ballet thing.

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Speaker 2: It's like I did watch that. Actually, okay, I liked

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it on Instagram. You should have noticed.

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Speaker 1: I don't really check the I don't check. I tried

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not to check. I go on social media. I've always

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said this during sports and wrestling, because that's when social

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media the best, when shit's popping off. And then when

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i'm collecting like news before our news cats trestle just

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in case I missed something. But yeah, it's just like

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who's actively like at home? Getting mad about like what

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tim is you showing me said at the ballet, Like

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even if you disagree with him, it's like, who's getting

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mad about it? You know? I respect at least like

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it was dumb, but I at least respect a Doja

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cat for being like, yeah, I kind of just did

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it for like she like blasted them, and then like

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two days there she's like, you know what, that was dumb.

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I just kind of did it for the engagement, and

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like I apologize for that. It's like, and that's why

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again you never know social media, right, are these people

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actually upset? Or that's the same thing. If Harvey Dent

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is a woman, you know what I mean, go oh

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cool scardrole. Let's see what happens. I've always said before

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I would fucking love a female joker, Like we have

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so many a getting with two face. It's like, I

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know some people be mad. It's like, you got Tommy

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d or Tommy d Jo Tommy Lee Jones, not d Jones.

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Tommy that's what that's what his life calls. And tell

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me d Jones, but tell me Lee Jones. You got

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Aaron Eckhart. There's countless of animation adaptions. It's like, sure,

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may get a woman. I'm not gonna care. Like, all

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I'm gonna care is if it's the story sucks. If

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the story sucks, I'm like, man, this like if she

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burns herself and she's like, I'm doing this because I'm

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a woman. Yeah, I'm gonna say, well, that fucking suck.

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I don't know why they did that, because she just

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said she's a woman. That's why she's two faced, Like

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they gotta do something so outrageous. So I don't know.

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I hope the Big Swing's not Robin. That's my other

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thing too. I don't want fucking Robin this movie at all.

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That comes from someone that named one their kids after

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Dick Grayson, I do not want not here. I'll pass.

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I know this Richard after Dylan's dad as well. No Grayson, Elli, Grayson,

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Ellie Grace. Ellie's mid name is Grayson.

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Speaker 2: Like you have a son was born.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't like him. That's what you guys have. Man,

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he's he hasn't shown his true quality yet.

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Speaker 2: He hangs out with Tony while we're over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you think less of me, father, I do. Man,

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that guy's so good. You wish it was being the dud. Yeah,

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and I have no debt to Dois this I just

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wish you died period

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Speaker 3: A bottle in your tomatoes

