Speaker 1: Maddie asks, how would you rank these projects in terms
of your hype level as of today? He put up
Doomsday doing three Spearmen, and the Odyssey for a little
Maddie Verba Cheery put I voted Doomsday as my most
anticipate for gold geeks. So this might be a recency biased,
but man, fresh off that Dune three trailer, I think
do this saying this top spot for me. Don't need
to see a single frame more. With that said, I
will likely see Doomsday first due to fear of spoilers.
That's a good point. We'll talk about doing in just
a second here. So it's a good U transition kind
of you, though, Mattie, your next question is gonna buger
us up with us? Okay, Yeah, we're rank those projects
right now, Doom, doing Doomsday, doing three Spearmen in the aus.
Speaker 2: M Man, it's a tricky one. I'm gonna have to
go Spidy number one. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna have to
go Spidy number one, and then I'll go sorry, what
was the fourth after.
Speaker 1: Your Odyssey and Dune? Doomsday? Avengers?
Speaker 2: Oh fuck Avengers too?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Yeah, holy shit, Kay, Yeah, I'm gonna do I'm gonna
go Spidy, Dune, Doomsday, and then Odyssey, purely on the
fact that I just got two trailers for those those
top two on my list, So that's like fresh in.
Speaker 1: The mind, right, Are you fucking kidding me? I'm just
gonna become a solo person cast it really is, my honesty. Last,
honestly below Doomsday is criminal Kirkland.
Speaker 2: That's okay, fine, I'll swap those. I'll swap criminals fair enough.
I'll go Outysty third, then Doomsday fourth. I don't know
if that makes it better or worse. I mean, I'm
still under the impression Dune is just not coming out
this year. I'm just kind of willing then.
Speaker 1: To even the trailer dating it this week.
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, I guess you got a good point, like
they could do anything, right, man, I just feel like
that I'm losing that argument me too.
Speaker 1: I I didn't put in my the Mike when he
did the box office draft. Me and Mike both didn't
put in our top ten because I thought they would move.
But the fact also you can move anything, right. We've
covered before camera which movie was, Remember there was a
movie that dropped a trailer then a week after there
I think it was X Men of Palsible, they like
delayed the movie even that of dates so they can
easily do that. I just felt like that was like like,
now we're not scared, We're gonna We're still gonna come out,
you know. And like I was like, oh right, there's
a good article too that I think Hollywood Reporter put
out that like even the industry is very divided because
theater people are like, actually, this could be really great
because we want big theaters, we want people to come
in and see stuff. But then there's other people like
they could hurt each other. People that are like they
could fuck over Jamanju, which is the week before which
people might be like, I'm not seeing Jamanji if I'm here,
Because again, these are gonna be I I'm gonna say
that's just round up say they're just both three hour movies.
So with that, before we continue Mike's Play Expedition thirty three. Absolutely,
that's another same thing. Cyberpunk has is coming to Xbox
Games Pass this month. I always want to try it, right,
So that's why it's like there's so many other great games,
so and it'd be different if I wasn't buying a
lot of new games to review for side quests here.
But it's like I did Res, I'm doing Bond, I'm
doing Batman. I'll be on GTA, I'll be on other stuff.
Speaker 2: So you know, do you have PlayStation plusse Yeah, I
got a premium Space Marine two just came to the
Monthly Games and that's like an online co op. We
gotta we gotta jump in there. We can force Taylor
into it. Likes Fate Arcs, whatever the fun we.
Speaker 1: Will if we play, he'll go, He'll just fucking fall asleep.
He'll just tell me, Oh, trust don't worry. I'll be
on in five minutes. Forty five minutes. Layer Tress in
there with his dick in his hands, could have been
getting laid. But no, I'm sitting awaying for Ted. It's like, okay, cool,
but no, Mike, I do want to play because I've
heard such great things about it, but I with both
those movies are gonna be three hours, right, So it's
six hours right there. Yeah, previews are usually we'll say
just for us or about fourteen minutes, so that's a
half an hour each. So that's three and a half
travel time you're looking at, Because what did I get
to I got to six and a half seven, So
you're looking what pretty much between depending where you live,
unless you live right across the theater and you might
get pop You're gonna show up early, get popcorn, because
that's gonna be time where kirk on you can't show
up at screen time because that's like, that's gonna be
a busy night. If people there for Dune and Doomsday,
that's gonna be a very busy night. So that's gonna,
I mean say, that's an eight hour venture at the theaters.
I've said this before. I'm completely fine as a moviegoer
as and we always are honest with you guys, as
a podcaster that fucks us over so much monetization wise.
I'm not even joking because the SEO and stuff, because
what happens is when people search for our podcast or
the Doomsday review, it's gonna be there. But if we
have to, because we will review Doomsday, like Mike Mattie said,
for spoilers. First, my ideal world is, I hope you
can line up where we all we should probably talk
when we get closer. We all need to take the
Friday off. We see these movies, we review them, we
put the Doom review at first, and then Doomsday because
Doomsday whatever people think, will do bigger, right. But the
problem with a lot of algorithms on Apple and Spotify,
I'm not so much sure. On YouTube, but when people
search for the Doomsday one and they see geek for
still click on it. But the first episode show is Doom,
so lots of people just go, oh, they didn't actually
review that, so then they move along right you want it.
And that's why before fucking celebrity podcasters took over the
podcast charts, we used to chart all the time, like Arden,
finnywoarn ennying reviews at one point like five for just
like a couple like days or even the week, but
like top fifth review. Like TV and Apple podcasts in America,
there is that episode right now, the whole podcast witch
of the episode because it was it could see it
right away. So that's where my fear is, we're gonna
get shit screen times. We're gonna have to review Doomsday
on Thursday, then we have to do Dune on Friday,
and it hurts both those right, and even then they
could be right. I don't know if it's gonna have
I think I'm more on the side, and I think
we're gonna tubbles for the next year. I am on
more side that I don't think it's like a Barbenheimer.
I think with Barbarenheimer, those movies were different and that
was kind of a fun like, oh, like you have
the dark, depressing, almost bio biopic documentary of the bomb
in Oppenheimer. But then it's like, oh, then you have
a fun time of Barbie in the Gang. I feel
like both Doomsday and Dune are gonna be I'm not
saying quality, I'm saying just similar themes of really bad
stuff happening to characters, because it's like a big war, right,
even Doomsday it might not be a war, but it's
gonna be Doctor Doom. He's gonna fuck some shit up, right.
So I don't know. I hope they move, but there's
been more. I guess that report on Deadline was or
I think it's all of your port that more industry
people like within or they're like, oh yeah, no, there's
like both those movies are staying. No one's moving. It's like, oh,
like that's a big and don't be wrong. As a
box office guy, though, I'm fascinated to see how that
goes for those two, right, and again, what if like,
what if that happens where either one if one of
them reviews a little poor or if they're God forbid
ones rotten, Because all I've heard is done Massiah is
a fucking weird book. Have you heard that before?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: People say the third one gets all weird and everything.
Speaker 2: Hidalgos is currently reading it right now, and he sends
me some some screenshots, so like some of the pages
and quotes that are in there, Yeah, yeah, it's it's
fucking weird.
Speaker 1: So what if there's a chance that that movie comes
out and it is weird for the general audience and
it becomes a like I don't I don't really like
not my Dune, I don't really enjoy it, right, Like
it's not a huge like the same thing, but look
at like Wicked to Wicked part two, right, the big
thing that like that big group of people, they didn't
show up for that. So if let's say Dune two
reviews even slightly negatively and now it's competing with Doomsday,
you'll get a shapia like, well, I already saw a
three hour movie. I've heard people say Dune three is
kind of weird or not the greatest. I'll wait till home,
you know where if if Dune's alone, it's like, well,
I'll go see Dune because there's nothing else. But when
you have Downy and Evans, like, I don't know if
it's gonna play the same or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe
people are just like they they make it an event.
They sign up that day and they're like, we're gonna
go see We're we're taking ten to eight hours a day,
we're seeing both these movies. We're gonna group of friends together,
and maybe they are. I don't know how things go, Like,
how are you feeling about that right now? If like
it's seeming if they do stay long term formcast, you
think that's good for them, bad for them in the middle,
where's that going for you? And then naddie, I'll answer
your question after.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I never thought it was a good
idea to begin with. That's why I was always kind
of just saying that Dune was gonna move, Like I
totally I still kind of feel that even even though
the date is in the trailer.
Speaker 1: Not Doom, so you never think Doomsday could move.
Speaker 2: I thought, like, I just feel like that's the bigger one,
so it's like the bigger one therefore would be the heaviest.
So therefore the heaviest object would move the hardest.
Speaker 1: And they got other ship they gotta do too, right,
Like we get X Men going, we gotta get like
you they were done three. It's like gonna they it's
gonna be the end, even though there's more books. They're
marketing this as the epic conclusion. We're Marvel suos to
worry about, Like, well we got Spermin five and Fantastic four,
we got a kid production, right.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean you make up some some really
good points about just the logistics of the general audience
seeing these particular projects, and like the fact that Barbie
and Oppenheimer are so different. I think that's why it
works so well. But yeah, these are pretty these are
pretty adjacent type films. To Peter, there's action in it.
Speaker 3: So Florence Pugh, Florence Pugh, she's killing it that day, absolutely,
which she deserves because she's amazing obviously, you boys.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I I would be down to take the
friday off. I'll pitch it to the boys to to
you're tough one. I know you have the sick days,
so you can.
Speaker 1: Fucking I would never whatever use use.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying you'll probably be feeling sick around that
time so that you'll be forced to actually take a
sick day.
Speaker 1: Of course, eight the theaters against people do throwing a
popcorn on me and stuff, But like no, I like, yeah,
hopefully Taylor would or like I said, I hope the
screenings are early enough that and that's what I hope
the theaters do. If they're gonna do this, be savvy,
have the theaters open up, because usually they only do
it in the summer or during like holidays, where it's like,
oh yeah, showings can start like two or four, don't
give me like yeah for showings at seven. It's like,
because I also don't want to go see Dune, Like
because I'm with Maddie, I would say Doomsday first because
of spoilers, right, I think with do in the book
being out, it's like if I get spoiled, it's gonna
be like before then we're Doomsday. That's gonna be a
mad dash to stay away from everything, right, chats, youtubes,
et cetera. So, but do I really want to go
see Dune at like nine forty five or ten, not
really like like after I don't know, so I will
like if the screenings are early. I have no problems
seeing them both back back. I love doing duple features.
I just don't want that that long one. But so, Mattie,
you asked for hype. You didn't ask for I know
it's different. I know the Sun's done, but for anticipation
when I anticipate something that's like I really like this
Dune doomsday thing, like oh, I want to say this
goes when you ask him by hype. That's a different
list because I am technically more anticipated for Doomsday than
Spider Man, because I think I just want to see
what the mess Doomsday could be or how they pull
off the Hail Mary right. But for my hype levels,
it goes awesty it's tough, so it's definitely the bottom
two is definitely Spider Man Doomsday. I have Doomsday laugh
because my hype is not there for Doomsday right now.
I'm sure will be well as we get there. I'm
excited to see all those returning characters and once the
marketing starts, great. But honesty is tough because versus doing three,
because honesty is done by Nolan, who to me is
the goat and I love almost all his films, and
I think we're gonna get some special where Dune that
June two to me is one of the race movies
of all time, and this is the follow up to it, right,
so no one's made a couple of those to me,
But this isn't like a sequel to that. I think
the reason I give the Aussey the edges because when
people tell me all like doom Assiah is weird, That's
where it's like, what if that doesn't transfer on screen? Right?
Like what if there is some issues with making that
into a film that could still probably only be three hours.
So I would go aunty Dune three because I think
Dooing three has a bigger chance to stumble. I'm not
saying they will. I trust the knee, but I'm just
saying if you were asked me, Hey, if you were
if Kirkham was a fortune teller and he's like, hey,
one of these movies ends up rawding. Is it doing
three or Odyssey? I'm taking Dooing three every time. I
don't think Odyssey's gonna be rowden. In my opinion, I
think doing three could take some big swings up. People
are like, fuck, like they did what with the Worm, Like,
I don't think I'd want to do anything with that,
and yet Spider Man then Doomsday spider Man. Like, I'm
not like I'm hyped for, but I'm still cautiously. I'm
more hyped now after this trailer. I'm very excited for
birth Nodol. That's what I'm very excited for, to get
Punisher in there, so I've got to see more of it.
But the suit the shots, looking very forward to that.
And then Maddy asked, Patson recently said, and if that
Batman two will take some big swings and be very
different from the first film, and he quick takes us
what he could be referring to. Also random stat pretty wild,
how Pat passins and they have three movies together coming
out this year. It is crazy because they got the drama,
they got Odyssey because she's in Odyssey, and then they
got doing three. So that is funny how that all
worked out, because yeah, I remember the day said that.
I think she said like they had never even met before,
and now they worked together like three times in a row,
so hopefully it's good. We're gonna talk about doing the
second here, but big, like it's tough. I do think
with how long The Batman's taken and with Matt Reeves,
I think there probably is big swings. I feel like,
of course the actor's gonna say that, right, Like he's
contractingly obligated to do this movie, So if they ask him,
I don't think he'd be like, yeah, Matt really filmed
this one in like we waved this long time. Yeah,
we waited so long, and Matt really fucking shit the bed,
you know, like remember when James Gunna became the DC
head and said flash from the grays per movies all time.
So that's where it's like, I can only take it
so far. I think, to me what I've always said,
and I still stand by this. The biggest swing would
be that they're gonna gender swap two Face and it's
not gonna be Dent, It's gonna be scar Joe because
Scargo's playing his wife. And that's what I because even
Matt Reeves and Matt Thomson's like, oh, we're getting someone
with the villain's never been done before again, could that
just be bullshit? And it's just two Face And she's like, well,
our version of two face never done. Sure, but I
think a big swing because I think pass and who
I think is a fan of Colm Books would know
reading that making two face a woman this time, that
is a big swing, and there's gonna be some people
not like happy with that. So I feel like it's
I feel like that's just a big swing I can
think of off the bat I don't know about other stuff.
I hope it's not too different, because when he said
it's very different, I hope not. Like I do want more,
like not just the same movie, but like I want
more of the Batman. So I don't want to be like,
I don't want to be radically different. I want to
just be more of the same with some new story
and of course some variations, right, but uh yeah, that's
what That's what my prediction is. Something with the villain.
But you got anything there? Do you think it would
be a big swing?
Speaker 2: I mean my mind just goes to like a more
I guess, less grounded type of villain. Like you know,
Batman does have some freak shows that he that he
faces off with right clay faces of the world.
Speaker 3: What's that like?
Speaker 2: Undead guy that like can't die at all? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm not saying we're getting this guy in this movie,
but like that's that's a freak show type villain that
would be very different than what we've seen with like
Paul Dano's. But I think kind of what you're pitching
is probably the more likely situation of just like a
different rendition of the character the Cape Crusader man. I
love the different versions of the villains that we saw
in that with with Harley Quinn that was so awesome.
The gender swapped Penguin that was really really fun and
just just a fresh coat of paint right on a
character we've seen so many times before. And I mean,
I'm sure there's people that hate that for stupid to
ask reasons, but it's it is fun for me, and
I feel like, like I feel like the majority of people.
Speaker 1: Gets air. It's like the people this week, like I
like luckily know an artists, Like people were saying it
was stupid, but no one made big deal of it.
But people when I was searching clips and sing stuff,
we're just losing their mind at these two second clips
of the trailer, Like I can't believe someone would do this.
It's such a stud way dude, Like they're just killing
their momentum. Just release the trailer. It's just like, no,
you know why because what happened. My sister texted me
to be like, hey, is this Spermen trailer out? Yeah? Like,
can you send me a link so I know it's
the right one? Here it is. That's how the GI
does this. Man, they're not fucking online being like there's
two sayings like whenever I got mad the Avengers in
the chair thing, it's like, no one really gives a fuck,
you know, like you know, really like real people give
a fuck. There's just so much fake outrage. Like you don't.
You probably listen to stress, but I ran about the
whole Timity show me and the ballet thing.
Speaker 2: It's like I did watch that. Actually, okay, I liked
it on Instagram. You should have noticed.
Speaker 1: I don't really check the I don't check. I tried
not to check. I go on social media. I've always
said this during sports and wrestling, because that's when social
media the best, when shit's popping off. And then when
i'm collecting like news before our news cats trestle just
in case I missed something. But yeah, it's just like
who's actively like at home? Getting mad about like what
tim is you showing me said at the ballet, Like
even if you disagree with him, it's like, who's getting
mad about it? You know? I respect at least like
it was dumb, but I at least respect a Doja
cat for being like, yeah, I kind of just did
it for like she like blasted them, and then like
two days there she's like, you know what, that was dumb.
I just kind of did it for the engagement, and
like I apologize for that. It's like, and that's why
again you never know social media, right, are these people
actually upset? Or that's the same thing. If Harvey Dent
is a woman, you know what I mean, go oh
cool scardrole. Let's see what happens. I've always said before
I would fucking love a female joker, Like we have
so many a getting with two face. It's like, I
know some people be mad. It's like, you got Tommy
d or Tommy d Jo Tommy Lee Jones, not d Jones.
Tommy that's what that's what his life calls. And tell
me d Jones, but tell me Lee Jones. You got
Aaron Eckhart. There's countless of animation adaptions. It's like, sure,
may get a woman. I'm not gonna care. Like, all
I'm gonna care is if it's the story sucks. If
the story sucks, I'm like, man, this like if she
burns herself and she's like, I'm doing this because I'm
a woman. Yeah, I'm gonna say, well, that fucking suck.
I don't know why they did that, because she just
said she's a woman. That's why she's two faced, Like
they gotta do something so outrageous. So I don't know.
I hope the Big Swing's not Robin. That's my other
thing too. I don't want fucking Robin this movie at all.
That comes from someone that named one their kids after
Dick Grayson, I do not want not here. I'll pass.
I know this Richard after Dylan's dad as well. No Grayson, Elli, Grayson,
Ellie Grace. Ellie's mid name is Grayson.
Speaker 2: Like you have a son was born.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't like him. That's what you guys have. Man,
he's he hasn't shown his true quality yet.
Speaker 2: He hangs out with Tony while we're over.
Speaker 1: Yeah you think less of me, father, I do. Man,
that guy's so good. You wish it was being the dud. Yeah,
and I have no debt to Dois this I just
wish you died period
Speaker 3: A bottle in your tomatoes