Speaker 1: Well here we are back here. Happy UFL Week eight.
Speaker 1: Let me bring in John Lewis here. We're back tuesday.
Speaker 1: How that we got We were going to do one
Speaker 1: last week and I said maybe, and then you were
Speaker 1: traveling and then we were working, and then we did
Speaker 1: not do it. But we're back here today. Someone I
Speaker 1: think it was on Twitter stead I like the schedule
Speaker 1: better in the last two weeks.
Speaker 2: Wait, buddy, that's not very then they're not watching right
Speaker 2: now out right.
Speaker 3: Now we're back here.
Speaker 1: We were talking already ahead of time John's pilgrimage to
Speaker 1: Saint Louis.
Speaker 3: We'll talk through all of that stuff. We have, Mike Mitchell.
Speaker 1: We have all the TV ratings, we have everything else,
Speaker 1: we have all the attendance, all of those things. We're
Speaker 1: even gonna talk about Dustin and Roll retros and all
Speaker 1: of that. I have exciting things to talk through all that.
Speaker 1: But John, how are you?
Speaker 3: It's been two weeks.
Speaker 1: You were out of town for Mother's Day, right, and
Speaker 1: then we were gonna do it and then I just
Speaker 1: got lazy last week.
Speaker 3: Sorry, So how are you doing here?
Speaker 4: I'm doing good.
Speaker 2: I mean we've had like two really good weeks of
Speaker 2: football here now, I know, you know, the next two
Speaker 2: weeks might not matter a lot because the playoffs are set,
Speaker 2: but I'm optimistic about what we might see these next
Speaker 2: two weeks because it's going to be a challenge for
Speaker 2: you know, these players want to get taped. These coaches
Speaker 2: are going to try to help them. I mean, we
Speaker 2: we might see some quarterbacks that we never thought we
Speaker 2: would see all season, so there's there's still things for
Speaker 2: them to play for. So I'm still looking forward to
Speaker 2: the next two weeks, but I'm ready for the playoffs.
Speaker 3: We yeah, not allowed to mean in the next couple
Speaker 3: of weeks.
Speaker 1: We joked, I really feel like I'm pretty caught up
Speaker 1: right now on UFL for some weeks, like I've been
Speaker 1: traveling and whatever. And even last week when I knew
Speaker 1: we were in the show, we were joking. Dorothy comes
Speaker 1: downstairs and I'm watching and texting you in the group chat,
Speaker 1: and she's like, well, I thought I think we were
Speaker 1: doing the show. I'm like one theory, like I still
Speaker 1: joy blocking the games. I'm like texting it's really you.
Speaker 1: It's really like texting you. I need to get you
Speaker 1: back on Twitter, and then the group chat. It's really
Speaker 1: the only thing that is keeping me one of these
Speaker 1: days me involved in all this stuff.
Speaker 3: We'll get through all that stuff. So anyway, like and subscribe.
Speaker 1: You know, we we had a people upset and like
Speaker 1: I came up. We made someone mad and then they
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Speaker 3: I think I think we're doing our best.
Speaker 1: John, before we get started, like and subscribe, now, I
Speaker 1: did want to tell this story. Like and subscribe, give
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Speaker 1: jls P role retros, right, So we're gonna do that
Speaker 1: because I finally got and I'm going to pick it
Speaker 1: up Friday.
Speaker 3: But I got my I texted John this though.
Speaker 1: I got my custom made Randy Land Randy Rose ran
Speaker 1: a jersey for the Maritors courtesy of help with.
Speaker 3: Dust In the world retros. So this is the front here.
Speaker 1: You can see kind of the it's the guy that
Speaker 1: we do him kind of does a mishmash of you
Speaker 1: see the world series logo on there. I kind of
Speaker 1: sourced all this stuff, but you see that green M
Speaker 1: and e there source from a Team Mexico replica that
Speaker 1: Dustin kind of helped me.
Speaker 3: Basically just sold me. The sold me the jerseys without
Speaker 3: the letter or the letters without the jersey. So I
Speaker 3: thought that was pretty cool. John, what do you think
Speaker 3: of this?
Speaker 1: Armand is not it's not jealous, But Jim Mullen gave
Speaker 1: me the thumbs up.
Speaker 3: Far Han just gave me a laugh. So what do
Speaker 3: you make of this?
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 2: I mean, especially if you're into, like, you know, kidnapping notes,
Speaker 2: it looks awesome. But no, I love I'll have all
Speaker 2: the different letters and the way you got it laid out.
Speaker 2: I think that's really cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so I used John's code that you know
Speaker 1: JLS over there on Dustin can't make you this, but
Speaker 1: he can help you source. But you can buy jerseys
Speaker 1: through there and then we're gonna give to y. See
Speaker 1: it's all connected. Subscribe, give it thumbs up, use John's code,
Speaker 1: do all that stuff. Yeah, Pat checking in here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: lots of officiating. And I was about it was last week.
Speaker 1: I think I was about ready to charge the TV
Speaker 1: and then we didn't do the show.
Speaker 3: But I was like very upset with the Mike.
Speaker 1: Prayer and all that, very upset with Dean Blandino and
Speaker 1: everything else. So we'll get to all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: Good games here this weekend. We had the split squad Saturday,
Speaker 1: but overall really exciting games. I thought the Saturday game
Speaker 1: was awesome. Trigger warning for Seahawks fans For the Sunday game.
Speaker 1: I texted John as he was traveling back from Saint
Speaker 1: Louis for that one with Louis Brez's pass, What did
Speaker 1: you make it? I mean, I thought it was great.
Speaker 1: I just had it had a blast kind of watching
Speaker 1: the games.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a great game. Yeah, you gave
Speaker 2: me the fair warning there, the trigger warning because I
Speaker 2: came back and I started to watch the game.
Speaker 4: After we got back from Saint Louis. My wife had had.
Speaker 2: Enough of UFL football, so she sent me to the
Speaker 2: basement to watch the game.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I was like, I it was just shocking
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 2: I mean, as and if you if you guys watched
Speaker 2: and educating, if you don't, you should, like Pat really
Speaker 2: broke it down. I mean simply, that's not something that
Speaker 2: you see from Louis Perez and you just can't do
Speaker 2: that and win games.
Speaker 4: And I don't know.
Speaker 2: If it was miscommunication, if it was he was, you know,
Speaker 2: just called his own number decide what to do.
Speaker 4: I just don't know. I was shocked.
Speaker 2: But leading up to that, it was an incredible game still,
Speaker 2: I mean, it was still an incredible game, and just
Speaker 2: what a wild way to finish. And it was a
Speaker 2: lot like you know, with Saint Louis and Birmingham, It's like,
Speaker 2: that's not what you expected. We thought it would be
Speaker 2: a defensive game. There was some huge plays from Birmingham
Speaker 2: and then they ended up losing on a fumble.
Speaker 4: It was just it was a wild weekend.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: May may or may not surprise you, but I tend
Speaker 1: to be very vocal sometimes watching games.
Speaker 4: It's very.
Speaker 3: I have a clip of her that it's not safe
Speaker 3: for any bride.
Speaker 1: But I when Louis Perez through that, I had just
Speaker 1: come upstairs. I was finishing that, you know, I was
Speaker 1: finishing my ride. I got the game my laptop and
Speaker 1: I literally just set it down on the I mean
Speaker 1: island to go get coffee, and I screamed out loud.
Speaker 1: She literally came in, she goes, what is happening? I
Speaker 1: just it was really wild, really exciting. Because we can
Speaker 1: get to all of that stuff. Let's do first off,
Speaker 1: because we have a comment here Mike's talking about TV ratings,
Speaker 1: Let's do all of that.
Speaker 3: First off, how do I do? Did I?
Speaker 1: Here we go?
Speaker 3: I of course I got rid of the one and
Speaker 3: then we'll do that. But here we go.
Speaker 1: So, first off TV ratings, we had the Friday game yesterday,
Speaker 1: and then everything else came out with that five seventy
Speaker 1: three for Friday split window on Fox, the five ninety one,
Speaker 1: and then nine to seventy three ABC for that the
Speaker 1: Sunday game. Mike's comment was just ABC really killing Foxes
Speaker 1: ratings this year. I have lots of thoughts about that,
Speaker 1: But what's your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Well, my thought is Fox has got to figure out
Speaker 2: if this Friday night thing, They've got to figure out
Speaker 2: what the flex is now. I know there were a
Speaker 2: lot of fans that would be upset, but he knew
Speaker 2: at least a week ahead of time, or even longer
Speaker 2: than that, Saint Louis Birmingham is going to be a
Speaker 2: better game than you know, Memphis San Antonio as far
Speaker 2: as matchups go. I mean, that game actually ended up
Speaker 2: being an incredible game, went to overtime, it was crazy.
Speaker 2: But you're I just don't think that you're gonna get
Speaker 2: as many fans to watch that game on a Friday
Speaker 2: night than if you had moved you know, Birmingham and
Speaker 2: Saint Louis to that night. Now thankfully they didn't because
Speaker 2: I was at the game the next day. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I to me, those Fox ratings, that's not sustainable. I
Speaker 2: don't you know, you can get five hundred thousand to
Speaker 2: watch a rerun of whatever Fox show you've got there,
Speaker 2: so you you know, you can put on a rerun
Speaker 2: of Mass Singer and get and get probably more than that.
Speaker 2: So they've got to really look at that. There are
Speaker 2: three things that there are a couple of things they
Speaker 2: got to look at. The UFL has to look at
Speaker 2: and with Fox or those Friday night games and the
Speaker 2: ratings and how to make that better. And then they've
Speaker 2: got to shore up a couple of these franchises. But
Speaker 2: you're right, like ABC man, and I don't I don't
Speaker 2: think this was any kind of positive spin that Mike
Speaker 2: was trying to put on.
Speaker 4: And I think it was true.
Speaker 2: It ended up being one of the higher rated games
Speaker 2: and actually peaked at over a million. So I mean
Speaker 2: that you had that many eyeballs, I think that's that
Speaker 2: that's just great. And I don't understand the split broadcast window.
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's figured that out, if there's
Speaker 2: a reason for that, but that doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 4: When I can explain all that, okay, hit me, I
Speaker 4: would love to know.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so, first of you, I did like the
Speaker 1: mic spin of like again I joke with my you know,
Speaker 1: it was like the highest rated game of the season.
Speaker 3: And then we also had some Yeah that's fine.
Speaker 1: So I look at the Fox Friday thing, that's its
Speaker 1: own thing, right, that's it, that's separate one. And then
Speaker 1: we have the split game thing that's issue too, and
Speaker 1: then we have the Fox first ABC thing. I think
Speaker 1: it's wild a that the the normal Fox games with
Speaker 1: ABC is being hurt so bad, like because this is
Speaker 1: all like this is Fox's brainchild, right, like, Hey.
Speaker 3: We're going to start the USFL and bring this.
Speaker 1: In and do all this, and then meanwhile, you know ABC,
Speaker 1: you know ESPN's doing a lot of that heavy lifting,
Speaker 1: and then they get these ABC and now we can
Speaker 1: talk about the NB you know that movie. Uh uh
Speaker 1: that then moving the game to ABC for to the NBA,
Speaker 1: which I bet is why that game peaked At the
Speaker 1: end of the ratings, Mike Mitchell and the UFL and
Speaker 1: brass That's why. And this is why I peaked at
Speaker 1: the end and not the beginning, is because it was
Speaker 1: leading into the NBA pregum. But they got to figure
Speaker 1: that out. Yeah, because Fox, they're taking it in the
Speaker 1: bath here where that's like this is their baby, like
Speaker 1: this was their whole, Like let's get Brian and let's
Speaker 1: do the USFL, we got the Spring League, let's do
Speaker 1: all this. And then yeah, ABC is just well, we're
Speaker 1: just kind of broadcasting some games.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: For the split window, I will say I saw I
Speaker 1: think it was Zach with newsroom posted the map. It
Speaker 1: showed Texas and then whether it would have been Texas
Speaker 1: and Michigan right for the or what, Yeah, it would
Speaker 1: have been like there was only two. It was a
Speaker 1: very limited split window. Mostly everyone got this Nat Lewis game.
Speaker 1: I saw the map, and then the reason why Fox
Speaker 1: does that.
Speaker 3: Is so they can say, we'll see we had two games.
Speaker 1: They had two Fox games on two different games got
Speaker 1: Maine Fox slots, even though one only got shown in
Speaker 1: five percent of the country.
Speaker 3: That's why they do that.
Speaker 2: I don't know that that helps build a league. At
Speaker 2: my I mean you can pad your staffs. I guess,
Speaker 2: so you still got five hundred ninety one thousand that
Speaker 2: you pulled put out on Nielsen. So I mean to me,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I will say the people that
Speaker 2: actually watch both those games, but I mean pretty decent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who is pat saying?
Speaker 1: And the comments are on fire. There's a new option
Speaker 1: that I can like show this, like show the comments
Speaker 1: I think live as they come in. I don't trust that.
Speaker 1: I don't trust.
Speaker 4: I get it. Well, they are really heating up here.
Speaker 4: You're right, but no.
Speaker 3: But anyway, so for that regard, but I will say.
Speaker 1: I I would take the ABC Sunday rating with a
Speaker 1: grain of salt because of that. Because of that peak,
Speaker 1: we had a doula on here. The NBA countdown lead
Speaker 1: in the reason for the game was over. So you know,
Speaker 1: it is what it is and you're not going to
Speaker 1: quibble over any of that. The USFL did that right
Speaker 1: season two when they let in the indie Indy car
Speaker 1: ask I don't know.
Speaker 4: When Kentucky derby NBC Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it blew up and they were like, we had
Speaker 2: like a million, one point five million viewers.
Speaker 3: Oh it had I think it had too million million,
Speaker 3: it was huge.
Speaker 1: They lead in for that and that's what you need
Speaker 1: to do, but they don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we're talking here and we'll move
Speaker 3: on here.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, there's a lot of comments like
Speaker 1: why are they on this slot or why are John
Speaker 1: We can't even schedule the home games in our playoffs
Speaker 1: where we want to have them, so like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, And I'm not saying that for slight
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, I mean, I try it.
Speaker 3: It's the same with me.
Speaker 1: Like I could probably ask to interview a lot of
Speaker 1: people on the show, and then there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people that will probably say no because like you you know,
Speaker 1: but you're just where you are and league you got
Speaker 1: to kind of know you're picking or any other big takeaway.
Speaker 3: I don't want to do like an hour on.
Speaker 1: This, but anything else because we don't normally have the
Speaker 1: full the full picture there. But oh yeah, I'd be
Speaker 1: super happy with the ABC but Fox two of the
Speaker 1: issues there from.
Speaker 3: That Friday Night is still rough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to work on that, it is, and
Speaker 2: you know, eventually, I think, you know, I think there
Speaker 2: will be a twenty twenty six season. I think there's
Speaker 2: gonna be some maybe some wholesale changes here. And if
Speaker 2: they continue to do the Fox Friday Night, I can't
Speaker 2: imagine that Fox doesn't say, Okay, we want to flex
Speaker 2: at least a few of these games after maybe Week
Speaker 2: five or something like that.
Speaker 3: Here's the question. So I guess, yes, we are.
Speaker 1: Technically we've confirmed the twenty six season, right, they sent
Speaker 1: out there there you can buy season tickets now, right,
Speaker 1: you can pre buy season tickets for twenty six And
Speaker 1: then I have another news item. But does that change
Speaker 1: your life at all? Or is that just status quo?
Speaker 2: Uh No, I mean, you can take deposits and sell
Speaker 2: season tickets, but are I mean, are we really thinking
Speaker 2: that there's going to be a team in Houston or
Speaker 2: in Memphis next year? I mean, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: mean that you're going to get that deposit back. I
Speaker 2: don't know how that works. I you know, I would
Speaker 2: love I hope there is. I mean, but they've got
Speaker 2: they got to they gotta fix some things there. But no,
Speaker 2: I mean the short answer is that it really doesn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's good. But also, you know, something that
Speaker 2: you and I had talked about before is remember when
Speaker 2: we all knew with this merger that some teams are
Speaker 2: going to be out and they're signing players and they're
Speaker 2: hiring coaches, and we're like, as you said, this seems
Speaker 2: disingenuous because we knew none of this was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Well and no, I mean the reason I ask, and
Speaker 1: I don't mean to be facetious, but I do.
Speaker 3: Sometimes we get these news stories like.
Speaker 1: You know, Specialists, you know, Specialist showcase announced for next year,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, there you go, like, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever can so you know that that might change your lot.
Speaker 1: I don't you know, it might make you feel better.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm asking. I was bought into. You know,
Speaker 1: I got my dragons, what was it? I guess I
Speaker 1: got my dragons money back when COVID happened, right, And
Speaker 1: then I think for my Sea dragons, I think we
Speaker 1: had paid in for the next year, and I think
Speaker 1: we got our money back.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember. I couldn't.
Speaker 1: It was right at that line where like we were committed,
Speaker 1: you know, it happened, right. I feel like we paid
Speaker 1: our money and it was quickly refunded or we didn't.
Speaker 3: It was right before we paid it.
Speaker 2: I mean I hope it doesn't get to that point,
Speaker 2: but you got to. You gotta think the UFL's already
Speaker 2: have has been having some talks behind the scenes, and
Speaker 2: we haven't heard a lot about expansion either.
Speaker 1: So the other quick story and Pat I think had
Speaker 1: tweeted it with some of the work that Pat does
Speaker 1: with his school for coaching. But the UFL is doing
Speaker 1: these like offseason local I had the list. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they I was seeing if I could bring
Speaker 1: it up on like the computer. I just got the email.
Speaker 1: I don't think we have a let me see if
Speaker 1: I can do that, but I just think it's cool
Speaker 1: to kind of be do more outreach that way and
Speaker 1: kind of brings more any thoughts on that.
Speaker 3: I want to see if I can pull that up
Speaker 3: real quest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's great.
Speaker 2: It gets the UFL out in the community, and places
Speaker 2: like Memphis have been getting out in the community and
Speaker 2: you're seeing a lot more of that. Talking to some
Speaker 2: people still like in Birmingham and some other markets that
Speaker 2: the marketing there, the outreaches that there, but these but
Speaker 2: there are a lot of markets that are doing this
Speaker 2: and I love seeing Yeah, this, I love seeing the
Speaker 2: UFL do this in their markets. That's really that's really.
Speaker 1: Cool one hundred percent. And just because I've been on
Speaker 1: here in a couple of weeks, this is great. You
Speaker 1: have all the locations here, we're doing one you know,
Speaker 1: in every city, hosted by the teams. You know, let's
Speaker 1: get some of the players out to be involved in that.
Speaker 1: And then also I just got another email from the
Speaker 1: Showboats with the story for Boogie Roberts. And I know
Speaker 1: that the Renegades have done a really good job too
Speaker 1: with doing David over there, with the Renegades running some
Speaker 1: of their socials posting stories every I just wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure because I did complain about that, like maybe
Speaker 1: a month or so ago, like it was in me,
Speaker 1: I would have one.
Speaker 3: Of these stories every week. So there's two teams that
Speaker 3: are doing that, So that's great.
Speaker 2: No, I think these youth are great because that one
Speaker 2: thing that separates to me, that separates the UFL from
Speaker 2: a lot of leagues is it's accessible. And these kinds
Speaker 2: of camps, you know, these are hands on, These are
Speaker 2: kids that get to go there, and then it's not
Speaker 2: going to completely break the bank if you want to
Speaker 2: take your kids to one of the games. Now the
Speaker 2: tickets prices are a little bit higher, but you can,
Speaker 2: you know, you can still go to a game and
Speaker 2: it's affordable, and you know, you build a base. It
Speaker 2: makes the parents feel good, It certainly makes the kids excited.
Speaker 2: But when you can get out and you know you
Speaker 2: can touch these players and you can talk to them
Speaker 2: and it's one on one and in these markets, I mean,
Speaker 2: there's no loss on this.
Speaker 4: This is all. This is all a win win situation.
Speaker 1: We had one comment here, We'll do y uh, We'll
Speaker 1: do attendance and then we'll move on. Need more memes
Speaker 1: and bigger in between the teams. I will stay And
Speaker 1: I agree with this where Mike Mitchell and we were
Speaker 1: talking even in our group chat this week that uh,
Speaker 1: I can't remember.
Speaker 3: It was a big McLendon had.
Speaker 1: A completion for a touchdown and you know, the caption
Speaker 1: was like my nay, and Mike was like, this is
Speaker 1: such an impressive like could we please like it? Just
Speaker 1: it found very lame kind of Twitter posting. And I
Speaker 1: would agree because I think that Fox and them have
Speaker 1: taken over a lot of this this year. So we
Speaker 1: know that Leo with the BattleHawks, I don't believe it's
Speaker 1: with the league anymore. We knew Jay friend of the
Speaker 1: you know, uh, friend of the show and medium or whatever.
Speaker 1: He's not with the Brahmas, so they're you know, you
Speaker 1: have like one guy in Fox Corporate that's doing a
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff. Like it's just you don't have
Speaker 1: you lose that, and I think it's very lost.
Speaker 2: Well, it just felt like last year the Brahmas and
Speaker 2: BattleHawks were two of the biggest trash talkers certainly on
Speaker 2: Instagram that I saw, and it was it was really
Speaker 2: funny stuff. I mean it was you know, sometimes those
Speaker 2: kinds of things feel forced but you're in, which I
Speaker 2: think it does a little bit this year with some
Speaker 2: of them, but yeah, they were I just thought that
Speaker 2: was really good and it's too bad that they lose
Speaker 2: those people because that is such another you know, accessible
Speaker 2: outreach and they and a lot of times they will,
Speaker 2: you know, they'll talk back, you know with fans and
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. And I think you know, when
Speaker 2: you do that, you you you feed a base and
Speaker 2: then you grow a base that way, and it's free.
Speaker 4: It's free.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think it's great.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's it's uh, it's I've said
Speaker 1: this before. The UFL is far closer to the CFL
Speaker 1: than they would like to.
Speaker 3: Admit, and that I mean that in a great way
Speaker 3: of the CFL engaging.
Speaker 1: I mean, the CFL does such a great job, especially
Speaker 1: at post COVID and kind of ramping it back up,
Speaker 1: but rolling out into the communities and do it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have notifications on for the Lions just because I
Speaker 1: know Matt and it's my team, and I mean they're
Speaker 1: always out somewhere at some bar doing the show where
Speaker 1: they're at some you.
Speaker 3: Know, the cheerleaders or the thing or the like. It's
Speaker 3: just you need to do that.
Speaker 1: One quick comment here, de Marcus had the Fox podcast
Speaker 1: could use some juice boxing jes got I was just.
Speaker 3: Gonna make a joner.
Speaker 4: I totally agree.
Speaker 1: I texted John, I've been making fun of sam Acha
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks on the broadcast. Yeah, this weekend, right,
Speaker 1: he's in the ESPN. I I don't really, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't see like network, Like I just kind of
Speaker 1: turned on the TV and I like, whatever it's on,
Speaker 1: So whatever Sam's on. But he looked like he was
Speaker 1: in the Nation of Domination, and so I tweeted, I said,
Speaker 1: sam Acho is personally keeping Spencer Gifts in business in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and I didn't realize that he followed me,
Speaker 1: and so I clickly deleted the tweet. But the damage
Speaker 1: was done, John Sam Sam's damage.
Speaker 4: Ye, you lost a follower.
Speaker 2: It was worth it, though, Well, I can tell you
Speaker 2: one thing, Gus Johnson would have been a thousand times
Speaker 2: better than what we heard from Tam Brando on that game.
Speaker 4: It is like, God bless him.
Speaker 2: I think tam Brando probably did USFL games back in
Speaker 2: the eighties, but that that was not it.
Speaker 1: Just real quick here as we're twenty minutes, Sam, We're
Speaker 1: doing good though, any thoughts, attendance figures, I just to
Speaker 1: say it came out.
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure we touch dc Uh.
Speaker 3: That was rough.
Speaker 1: It was, I mean we talk all this that the cherry,
Speaker 1: you know, the just did versus whatever. I will just
Speaker 1: say I've been in Audifield twice for XFL games and
Speaker 1: then I've obviously watched a lot of on my TV,
Speaker 1: and that was the least amount of people I've ever
Speaker 1: seen them there.
Speaker 3: That was a very poor showing for.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, you know when they're showing those wide shots,
Speaker 2: especially where the beer Snake is. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you've heard about the beer Snake, but they've got.
Speaker 4: A thing there.
Speaker 2: Wait, this might be something new for you. Uh, but yeah,
Speaker 2: that that did look pretty empty.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I was at Saint Louis. I don't know that it
Speaker 2: was thirty thousand, but there was an awfully good crowd there,
Speaker 2: especially considering the bad weather that it hit, you know,
Speaker 2: the night before and everything that was going on in
Speaker 2: Saint Louis. And I think that there probably would have
Speaker 2: probably would have been thirty thousand people there for that
Speaker 2: game because that was huge.
Speaker 1: It was just funny because even in the it's allid
Speaker 1: was that the way that Logan Bill was at Like
Speaker 1: I can't remember I saw Lugan Bill was at the
Speaker 1: DC game.
Speaker 3: Okay, So they were.
Speaker 1: Talking and he's like, he goes, yeah, you know the beers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, like everyone knows the beer Snake. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, they're really kind of lack and they really
Speaker 1: they're postures like they need to hold it back, like
Speaker 1: because it was kind of getting sloppy. I go even
Speaker 1: there over it, Like I'm overholding this beer snake for
Speaker 1: four hours, Like I'm over it. Could you imagine like
Speaker 1: that's my seat, that's what I do.
Speaker 2: I don't know, well, you know, you know, I mean
Speaker 2: it went to it really quickly, like that's that's their
Speaker 2: cash cow, that's the low that's the low hanging fruit
Speaker 2: on this. But you know, I'm not gonna beat them
Speaker 2: up too bad because the casual who watches this for
Speaker 2: the first time is going to see that for the
Speaker 2: first time and they're going to be like, hey, what
Speaker 2: is this.
Speaker 4: That's kind of cool.
Speaker 2: So I know, for us again, we're the Sikos who
Speaker 2: watched every down, so we've seen it before.
Speaker 1: Had had no one ever stacked a beer cup inside
Speaker 1: another beer cup in the continue this line before DC
Speaker 1: played in the XFL and twenty.
Speaker 3: They never did that in Madrid or like Barcelona. They
Speaker 3: never like.
Speaker 4: Men in college, I don't know, I mean, did.
Speaker 3: They do that in Tablasso?
Speaker 2: Like I'm just really maybe they will see maybe maybe
Speaker 2: DC is going to start something and people will say,
Speaker 2: where did the bear snake originate? And like the DC
Speaker 2: defenders And let me tell you about the UFL, you know,
Speaker 2: like where Jehovah's witnesses here.
Speaker 4: Let you have time to talk about the UFL.
Speaker 3: You know, the university. You know what is it?
Speaker 1: A fan at the University of Washington created the wave
Speaker 1: and I hate them to this day. Did you know
Speaker 1: that the wave at UW? It's like, but that's credited as.
Speaker 4: That was that? Who was it? Bill Parcells?
Speaker 2: It was one of the NFL coaches back in the
Speaker 2: eighties who just absolutely hated that and talked about it
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 3: I hate it.
Speaker 1: Here we go the day it's new, but you can't
Speaker 1: bring in the cups? All right, Uh, let's go into
Speaker 1: all this stuff. I think we've done any of that stuff.
Speaker 1: Where is my standings here?
Speaker 3: Do I have that?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 3: Do all that? All right?
Speaker 1: So we kind of have things locked down. We'll do
Speaker 1: the games here. D C was able to lock down.
Speaker 1: Well I guess not right, not home field, but we
Speaker 1: were hosting it in Saint Louis.
Speaker 3: What do you make I guess what do you make
Speaker 3: of that?
Speaker 1: What do you make of neither first place team being
Speaker 1: able to host in their conference?
Speaker 2: Well, you know it does because it's you know, it
Speaker 2: feels like the UFL had even said like they knew
Speaker 2: this was a possibility. So why why did this? Why
Speaker 2: is this still a possibility, and why did this happen.
Speaker 2: I think they were trying to maybe avoid the worst
Speaker 2: like they did last year. If you'll remember Birmingham and
Speaker 2: Michigan played at Birmingham last year, it was for home
Speaker 2: field advantage. But once again Michigan they weren't able. They
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been able to play at Ford Field, but
Speaker 2: Birmingham ended up beating him. I think it was last
Speaker 2: year year before, so they were able. They were able
Speaker 2: to avoid that. No, so it does kind of bother me.
Speaker 2: But you know, I like Shannon Harris's take. He says,
Speaker 2: you know that we can play on the moon. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, we'll just have to get our astronauts.
Speaker 4: Suit ready and we'll play. So he's fine with it.
Speaker 2: But I think he did this as he said, I
Speaker 2: hated for the fans because you know, the fans are
Speaker 2: the ones who are coming out there and you know,
Speaker 2: you feel like you want to be playing for something
Speaker 2: like obviously you want to be playing for a playoff spot,
Speaker 2: but also what how about the extra juice that it
Speaker 2: gives to like, well, if we do this and we
Speaker 2: get some help or we you know, went out, then
Speaker 2: we're going to have home field advantage. And you're just
Speaker 2: you're hamstrung when you when you begin. So no, I
Speaker 2: don't like that at all. But you know, again, this
Speaker 2: is a spring football league. We're continuing it. There's tinks
Speaker 2: to work out, and hopefully year after year there'll be
Speaker 2: a little bit more learning and a little bit way
Speaker 2: to figure out some of these situations.
Speaker 3: It's it's really hard. And I was just reading before
Speaker 3: we came on here.
Speaker 1: Right, the NFL is they're doing all their voting for
Speaker 1: their flag football, and I think even their owners are
Speaker 1: voting to get rid of the you know, you automatically
Speaker 1: get the home field advantage if you win your division,
Speaker 1: which I think is horrible. And I I'm split.
Speaker 3: I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I hate this because you know it it makes a
Speaker 1: mockery of the entire right like idea.
Speaker 3: Of playing and what do we do with standings and
Speaker 3: everything else? But like does it?
Speaker 1: I think the Saint Louis DC one matters more to
Speaker 1: me the Birmingham Michigan one. You're getting on a plane
Speaker 1: anyway and flying like, I don't does six thousand in
Speaker 1: Michigan like six thousand in Michigan, I don't. That to
Speaker 1: me doesn't matter as much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I think it.
Speaker 2: I think it affects the XFL Conference much more because
Speaker 2: you those are the two strongest home field advantages that
Speaker 2: you have in the entire league.
Speaker 4: So that, yeah, to me, it's.
Speaker 2: Like that that takes away a little bit of this.
Speaker 2: It takes away some of the seriousness of this league. Uh,
Speaker 2: if that makes sense, I think it hurts the brand
Speaker 2: a little bit. I don't know that again, the casual
Speaker 2: viewers out there who will be watching the playoffs, I
Speaker 2: seriously doubt the broadcasts are really going to go into well,
Speaker 2: it should have been this, but because you know, they're
Speaker 2: having the rodeo or whatever's happening, they couldn't play there.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to go into that. So
Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people are going to
Speaker 2: know this outside of our you know, niche of people
Speaker 2: watching here.
Speaker 1: And that that That's kind of where I'm at, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
Speaker 3: I think it's bad. And you said, I feel bad
Speaker 3: for the fans.
Speaker 1: And if you lived in you know, yeah, if you
Speaker 1: lived in Outfield, you know, if you if you lived
Speaker 1: in a Field, if you lived in DC, like remember
Speaker 1: when Baker Mayfield like lived at the Browns stadium.
Speaker 3: I loved those commercials. Is that protective?
Speaker 4: That was though?
Speaker 2: That Yeah, that was when he was played for the
Speaker 2: Browns and he was progressive. It was, yeah, and it
Speaker 2: was it was on some insurance.
Speaker 1: Commerce all stay protect your house at Baker That might
Speaker 1: have been it anyway, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean so I feel bad that way.
Speaker 3: You know the players. Yeah, it's totally bush league.
Speaker 1: But it's like, like I said, you're getting on you
Speaker 1: already have ag mccerran making fun of getting on the
Speaker 1: same plane with guys Like does it matter if you're
Speaker 1: playing it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it is what it is. I would
Speaker 3: be upset, but I got it.
Speaker 4: Well, you think about it too.
Speaker 2: If you're a season ticket holder, like and you're supposed
Speaker 2: to get, like, you know, first DIBs on tickets, Well.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute.
Speaker 2: What's the incentive for me to buy season tickets if
Speaker 2: I know that my team couldn't get home field advantage
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to be able to see them,
Speaker 2: so that I mean to me that that's one thing
Speaker 2: that would bother me.
Speaker 4: You know if I lived in one of those communities.
Speaker 1: Well not only that, but I mean you can pre
Speaker 1: buy in theory, pre buy your season tickets for next
Speaker 1: year if potentially your team was here and potentially they come.
Speaker 3: Back and they make it to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean anyway, all right, so let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's see all this we have the Friday night game.
Speaker 1: Speaking of all that brom is here going down, I
Speaker 1: saw a lot of them like aj Smith tweeting on
Speaker 1: Twitter like he's really gone crazy here just with obviously
Speaker 1: him not on the team anymore and everything and showboats
Speaker 1: and coming down to overtime, a lot of back and
Speaker 1: forth that what did.
Speaker 3: You make we only will do a deep dive? We
Speaker 3: got a half power? What'd you make it? This one?
Speaker 2: What I really liked is those are two teams have
Speaker 2: nothing to play for, like other than individual you know,
Speaker 2: trying to get as we said before, trying to get tape,
Speaker 2: and you're playing for pride. And to see that, you
Speaker 2: know what they that to me like that was that
Speaker 2: was really cool to see those two teams like still
Speaker 2: continue to give it their all. And you know, I
Speaker 2: don't think any of these guys are gonna be quitters
Speaker 2: or too many of them now. I think we're gonna
Speaker 2: see a lot more retirement, So I know, you know,
Speaker 2: Pat's already written an article about some of the guys
Speaker 2: who're retiring. I think we're gonna see a lot more,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe even could have been some today that
Speaker 2: I haven't seen. But as we move along, especially after
Speaker 2: this this next week, like, are some of these guys
Speaker 2: who don't have a chance, are they gonna just say, like,
Speaker 2: I'm not playing another week of this.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna move on.
Speaker 2: But I just really liked what we saw with this game.
Speaker 2: It was an entertaining game and nothing on the line,
Speaker 2: but man, that was fun.
Speaker 3: It's just hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard with the ten week season to have these
Speaker 1: teams out with two weeks.
Speaker 3: It's just it's really hard. And the CFL gets brutal
Speaker 3: like the last.
Speaker 1: Because I mean, the CFLs what did they do twenty
Speaker 1: one eighteen games twenty one.
Speaker 3: Weeks through, Like it's just the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Unless it really matters for one of the team, it's
Speaker 1: just brutal to watch. So I certainly feel about that
Speaker 1: way and just I mean just the brahmas. I just
Speaker 1: feel like the players just totally got hose and it's
Speaker 1: just a really unfortunate situation this year.
Speaker 3: I feel like at least Memphis has had.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, we've at least had like fun talking
Speaker 1: about Dresser winning. So I can't remember the last time
Speaker 1: like we enjoyed talking about the Brahmas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's a good point. And you know, both
Speaker 2: these teams said a lot of turmoil and coaching changes
Speaker 2: and they've gone through quarterbacks and everything else. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right, it was that was that was a fun game.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm interested to see what interested to see what
Speaker 2: happens in the last two weeks with a lot of
Speaker 2: these teams.
Speaker 1: There was I think past specifically, but a lot of
Speaker 1: us with Kevin Hogan playing for the Brahmas not maybe
Speaker 1: giving other people a chance or you have something you
Speaker 1: know you're talking here the next couple of weeks, Like
Speaker 1: in terms of the Brahma's game plan on this, do
Speaker 1: you think that was weird that Kevin Hogan saw so
Speaker 1: much of the game time.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm very reluctant to talk bad about Kevin Hogan
Speaker 2: because I know Pat's watching and I don't want him
Speaker 2: to block my number because I want my wife to
Speaker 2: love me as much as he loves Kevin Hogan. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right, you're starting to take your I think you're
Speaker 2: taking reps away from guys who have a future. That's
Speaker 2: why I think we might see a lot more, a
Speaker 2: lot of different quarterbacks here.
Speaker 4: I was, and the Troy Williams thinks surprised me too.
Speaker 2: It's like maybe they felt like dresser Win had enough
Speaker 2: they wanted to give Troy Williams, you know, an opportunity here.
Speaker 2: So uh but yeah, I think I think we're gonna
Speaker 2: see a lot of different players, different skill position players especially,
Speaker 2: you know, get in there last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Do you think that coach has done enough Jim Turner
Speaker 1: here with the show notes to kind of stick around
Speaker 1: next year?
Speaker 3: Do you think he would?
Speaker 1: I mean, we're I'm just trying to get one more
Speaker 1: question here about this game before we move on.
Speaker 3: But do you feel like he's invested? Like what do
Speaker 3: you send to this? Is he done? See?
Speaker 2: I could hit me like, well, I mean, I could
Speaker 2: see that, but you know, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: I don't haven't talked to him, so I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on behind the scenes in Memphis,
Speaker 2: if there will be a Memphis team next year. On
Speaker 2: the surface, though I would love to see him come
Speaker 2: back in some capacity, whether it's a head coach or
Speaker 2: you know, maybe he just he's like, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: going to be a position coach. I want to work
Speaker 2: with these guys. I don't need all this other stuff
Speaker 2: because you saw the frustration a few times on the
Speaker 2: sideline last few games. So yeah, I don't know, but
Speaker 2: I would love to see him come back. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not even not even that he's a character. I
Speaker 2: think he's a really good football coach.
Speaker 1: Just looking at this and I'm just I'm just such
Speaker 1: a loss for both of these teams. I like the Brahmas,
Speaker 1: and we've had so much with the attendance and the season,
Speaker 1: and they still have home games because they were you know,
Speaker 1: they were backloaded.
Speaker 3: They have more because of March madness, and like, right,
Speaker 3: it's really tough to be.
Speaker 1: I mean, at least Memphis I got a little bit
Speaker 1: of a thumb up, But maybe you don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: just to put a pin in both these teams, do
Speaker 1: you feel like you have any motivation or fam I
Speaker 1: just it feels like it's pretty mild both these teams
Speaker 1: moving forward, both football wise and off the field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I meant a wonder. I mean, I think I
Speaker 2: think Memphis is on the fence. I mean, as far
Speaker 2: as as a franchise goes, you know, you know, they
Speaker 2: they it felt like they were doing everything right getting
Speaker 2: out in the community. As I've said several times, I
Speaker 2: mean I saw it, and you know, there there was
Speaker 2: a hardcore group of fans, but it's you know, it's
Speaker 2: it's too small. And but as far as San Antonio goes,
Speaker 2: I think if that team had been better, we would
Speaker 2: have seen the kind of turnout that we've seen before.
Speaker 2: Even though when you start to look at the other
Speaker 2: San Antonio Spring football franchises, including was that the San
Speaker 2: Antonio was the commanders that were there in the AAF.
Speaker 2: I mean that they had great crowds, and I just
Speaker 2: think maybe that community has gotten a little burnt a
Speaker 2: little bit on spring football, especially after that, and you know,
Speaker 2: and then and then Hines Ward walking away, and now
Speaker 2: you've got Wade Phillips walking away so much. So many
Speaker 2: things has happened last couple of years. But I think
Speaker 2: Memphis is kind of the big question mark right now
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel I don't know, malaise is that the
Speaker 1: right word?
Speaker 3: Is out of no.
Speaker 4: I think I think that's fair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I and just in general with some of these teams.
Speaker 1: And we were even talking before on you know, just
Speaker 1: time text earlier today about you know, it's real hot
Speaker 1: right now here and just you know, kind of the
Speaker 1: space and fring football and everything, and I think it's
Speaker 1: really I mean, it's twenty five, it's gonna be six yeah,
Speaker 1: next season is gonna be six years since twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Like I do feel like you're running the course on
Speaker 1: some of these teams or franchises.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean when it's a comin for another time, but
Speaker 1: I just don't I don't know how you even like
Speaker 1: if I worked in San Antonio, Like I don't even
Speaker 1: know how do I send an email out like please
Speaker 1: please be excited about our.
Speaker 3: Team next year, please come to a game that I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean that in.
Speaker 1: All seriously, I just it's so hard Memphis too, but
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty ch it.
Speaker 2: Is and you know, it was just interesting in Saint Louis,
Speaker 2: like the local Fox station does a thirty minute pregame show,
Speaker 2: you know, from it was like from eleven thirty eastern
Speaker 2: to noon before kickoff. You knew the battle Hawks were
Speaker 2: playing there, like you know, and I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: cause there's but Saint Louis is such an outlier. But
Speaker 2: I do think that there are things to be learned
Speaker 2: from that. And I have to think that some of
Speaker 2: these these you know, other teams and general managers and
Speaker 2: everything have gone to them. It's like, you know, what's
Speaker 2: working here now. Granted again, it's an outlier because of
Speaker 2: the situation with the Rams and how that you know,
Speaker 2: there was still I saw another you know, cronky suck
Speaker 2: shirt when I was there, so there that's that that's
Speaker 2: still there, and that's one of the big reasons, uh,
Speaker 2: that the BattleHawks have been so popular. But also that's
Speaker 2: a football town and these other places are football towns,
Speaker 2: and you know, there's but but you're right, like, what
Speaker 2: what is it that you like you said, how what
Speaker 2: do you email out? What do you tell the community, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: please get excited about this.
Speaker 1: I don't know, It's really it's really hard to me
Speaker 1: for like some of these markets.
Speaker 3: I look at ahead here because I just want to
Speaker 3: it's like about it anymore because I'm just like God,
Speaker 3: I just till this.
Speaker 1: I want to talk through this with the Saint louis Is.
Speaker 1: Speaking of value, the pregame, John was in Saint Louis. Uh,
Speaker 1: super fan here. No one doubt him for being the
Speaker 1: super fan of the UFL, for going out to the games.
Speaker 1: So this was I don't think we'll do too much
Speaker 1: on the other doubleheader that we didn't get to see
Speaker 1: a ton of, right, did Houston?
Speaker 3: I can't even remember the Houston. Yeah, Michigan won now
Speaker 3: of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so we'll we'll we'll touch on that in
Speaker 1: a quick second. But you were in attendance for this
Speaker 1: and I watched every snap of this game.
Speaker 3: This was an exciting one.
Speaker 1: Uh. First up, general thoughts, because then I have a
Speaker 1: very pointed question for you.
Speaker 2: You know, I think there's legitimate concern for Max dug
Speaker 2: and a quarterback, and you know, again, how do you
Speaker 2: bet against Skip Holtz? You know, I know it's not
Speaker 2: going to be popular to give him and you know,
Speaker 2: a Coach of the Year award because he's won three
Speaker 2: straight championships and all that, but what he has done
Speaker 2: this year with what feels like seventy three different quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: it's just it's incredible. And then you know Jmar comes
Speaker 2: in off the street. He's had two really good games.
Speaker 2: I mean he just you know, there.
Speaker 4: Was just the you know, there was the fumble at
Speaker 4: the end. That was a great defensive play. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: But you know, obviously the atmosphere it was it was fun.
Speaker 2: Even though it might not have been thirty thousand people,
Speaker 2: it's just such a fun place. It's there were they
Speaker 2: even had even sold tickets up in the four hundred
Speaker 2: sections up top.
Speaker 4: It was really cool. It's it was fun. And those
Speaker 4: were two.
Speaker 2: It was worthy when you see like what this might
Speaker 2: have been a UFL championship preview. Uh, these were two
Speaker 2: really good teams and it came down to one play.
Speaker 1: Here's my question, Uh do well actually have a couple?
Speaker 1: But does do the BattleHawks.
Speaker 3: Win this game?
Speaker 1: If anyone previous to Jmr Smith this quarterback in the stiance.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that that would have changed
Speaker 2: a whole lot. I mean I understand that you know
Speaker 2: your offense is going to go through your quarterback, but
Speaker 2: I don't know that it would have changed a whole lot.
Speaker 2: I just like, like, are you're saying like if like
Speaker 2: Alex Magoo had played.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it struck me a lot that JMR
Speaker 1: was running for his life a lot, right, And I'm
Speaker 1: looking down here on the stats and you had you know,
Speaker 1: Skips yelling at JMR on the sidelines and not being
Speaker 1: He's like, well, you can't throw a screen pass, you
Speaker 1: can't play, and so to me and I'm I'm, you know,
Speaker 1: super excited that the BattleHawks won and this is your
Speaker 1: both your teams, and I'm sure you were just going
Speaker 1: crazy because it's like this is like John's super Bowl
Speaker 1: and oh well, and and let us make sure we
Speaker 1: shout out, you know, anyone that was hurt and in
Speaker 1: the tornado there because you kind of survived that driving.
Speaker 3: I mean, there was a lot of like stuff. I
Speaker 3: don't want to kind of wash over that.
Speaker 1: But it felt to me like JMR just wasn't I mean,
Speaker 1: I know he had the three times, it just it
Speaker 1: didn't feel like you were beating Jamar that. I'm just
Speaker 1: curious to me, there's an asterisk there because the battle
Speaker 1: Hawks beat the Stallions with JMAR, with Skip yell and
Speaker 1: they have not known what was going on.
Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of that is, you know,
Speaker 2: Skip and JMR have been together for quite a while,
Speaker 2: so I think a lot of that is. Those are
Speaker 2: just two very competitive people. And you know, he knows
Speaker 2: Skip Holtz knows he can talk to Jmar that way.
Speaker 2: And it's not gonna be Jmr is not going to
Speaker 2: a shell. He's gonna he's gonna listen to it and
Speaker 2: do better. But man, I mean he had some great
Speaker 2: passes and that first one, I mean that first touchdown
Speaker 2: passed that Jmar Smith had, I mean that crowd went silent,
Speaker 2: and then they you know, and and then I think
Speaker 2: they kicked a field goal after that, and we're you know,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at my wife, I'm like, this might be
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 4: Might be over.
Speaker 2: They had some big plays, they had some explosive plays.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll give them, I'll give them that. But
Speaker 2: Saint Louis's defense did tighten up quite a bit. And
Speaker 2: but I honestly, I don't know that, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't I'm not sure that that a different quarterback, either
Speaker 2: on either side would have made a difference.
Speaker 4: I think it would have. We would have seen that
Speaker 4: and it would have come down to the wire.
Speaker 1: We had a couple of comments here, Pat says, crowd
Speaker 1: gets two hundred yards sixty five yards rushing. That's very
Speaker 1: likely mar is the only quarterback they could have won
Speaker 1: with worse others.
Speaker 3: Uh, there you go.
Speaker 1: I I just I let's just say this. You know,
Speaker 1: I might not lay the Stallions that much just because
Speaker 1: of like everything just in my life.
Speaker 3: It's the last how many years they existed.
Speaker 1: Imagine like just like use your head, like imagine why
Speaker 1: read might not like the stiance and then imagine like
Speaker 1: then Jamar comes back, and then then he gets like
Speaker 1: all the publicity like on that team that I also
Speaker 1: don't like, and then like he's sitting there like I
Speaker 1: just I'm like very annoyed, and he's got the megamind
Speaker 1: brain like I'm just very annoyed.
Speaker 3: You I'm just trying to poke holes. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: poke holes.
Speaker 4: I get it. You you you need to work through this.
Speaker 3: Every I have.
Speaker 4: I mean, you are a known hater.
Speaker 2: We know that for a fact, that you're a known
Speaker 2: hater of the XFL, the USFL, the Birmingham Stallions.
Speaker 4: I mean, we can go on and.
Speaker 2: On, but no, I just to me, and there are
Speaker 2: a lot of people out there and probably some people
Speaker 2: that are watching this that think that if Birmingham wins again,
Speaker 2: it's bad for the league. Uh, I don't share that opinion.
Speaker 2: I think that if you you can, you're working in
Speaker 2: a spring league that has ten games a season, that
Speaker 2: has eight teams, and you can build a dynasty that quickly.
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, I think that's more headline grabbing
Speaker 2: than if another team win. Now, if it's Saint Louis
Speaker 2: and they win there and it's you know, fifty thousand
Speaker 2: people show up, then that's a different story. But no,
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's good. Uh you know,
Speaker 2: I think the Stallion story is good. And yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: I'm biased too because that was always my USFL team,
Speaker 2: So maybe I was biased.
Speaker 1: Uh. Now, I'm going to put something on the screen here,
Speaker 1: John and I. This is all abdual, So this is
Speaker 1: not this is not read secret account to see Saint
Speaker 1: Louis show up to the game and when the tornado
Speaker 1: went through their community and Birmingham can attend the game
Speaker 1: because the church.
Speaker 3: It's not nice. It's just not nice.
Speaker 2: It It's true though, And here's what I'll say that
Speaker 2: that storm, you know, all kidding aside, that tornado was
Speaker 2: it was devastated. Uh, you know a lot of the
Speaker 2: area and certain people there, and still you had and
Speaker 2: there was a moment of silence at the game and
Speaker 2: you but you still had that many people show up. Now,
Speaker 2: the UFL did not do Birmingham any favors to put
Speaker 2: a game on Sunday, Mother's Day at eleven am Central time,
Speaker 2: because you got exactly what any anybody watching this right now,
Speaker 2: including you and me, would know, you're gonna get four
Speaker 2: hundred people show up. I mean that was just like,
Speaker 2: why would you schedule Birmingham at home on that day?
Speaker 4: But it is.
Speaker 2: But Abdul has a point when Birmingham, I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people like to go to Sunday school and church.
Speaker 2: Don't schedule those games. I remember going to the USFL
Speaker 2: games down there in twenty twenty two when you got
Speaker 2: you know, you got the game Saturday and Sunday. They
Speaker 2: put the stallions on at night and it was you know,
Speaker 2: the low the place was packed. But then you go
Speaker 2: to the Sunday noon game or whatever time that was,
Speaker 2: and there's nobody there. I was one of about fifty
Speaker 2: people there. That's just that's what it's gonna be, even
Speaker 2: when the home team's there on a Sunday.
Speaker 1: We got a comment here at your friend Gregory new
Speaker 1: slash read this the Stallions John from Michigan to show
Speaker 1: the photo that he texted to me over the week.
Speaker 3: Well, of course, of course I gotn't pulled.
Speaker 1: That's what I was doing here John and Gregory out
Speaker 1: here outside. We saw Gregory at the championship game last
Speaker 1: year Stallions. He's got the three, he wants the four anyway,
Speaker 1: Gregory was checking there.
Speaker 3: Yes, we got you, Gregory. I was very excited.
Speaker 1: John texted me that he said he was having the
Speaker 1: seven numbers.
Speaker 3: Did you have fun so you got recognized? I mean
Speaker 3: that's exciting.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, greg he knew I was going to
Speaker 4: be there.
Speaker 2: That was It's not like I wasn't don't have to
Speaker 2: qualify John, So no, it was. Uh it was funny
Speaker 2: last year when I went, there was a guy he
Speaker 2: he I think he put in my YouTube comments later
Speaker 2: he's like, I thought I saw you at the game.
Speaker 4: I thought you were there.
Speaker 2: It's like, come on, man, that my wife would have
Speaker 2: actually been impressed that someone would have recognized me at
Speaker 2: the Saint Louis battle Ized game.
Speaker 3: But no, it was cool.
Speaker 4: And here's the thing.
Speaker 2: The Saint Louis fans, some of them were giving greg
Speaker 2: some grief and he went along with it and he
Speaker 2: and it was great and most of them were like
Speaker 2: they were cool with it, and you know, it was
Speaker 2: like to see a Birmingham guy in the Birmingham Stallion's
Speaker 2: sweatshirt show up. But it was a cool atmosphere. I
Speaker 2: thought everybody. Everybody was was cool about it, even though
Speaker 2: he took some grief, but he Cook called with him.
Speaker 1: It's funny because I knew Gregory when he said hi.
Speaker 1: But I will get the occasional like we'll be like
Speaker 1: when we were in Arlington. I'll get the egage like hey,
Speaker 1: read what's going on? And Dorothy would be like who
Speaker 1: was to I'm like, no idea, So you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like I just you know, my god,
Speaker 1: oh or or oh it's x P Y seven to
Speaker 1: two whatever on Twitter, you know, like you know all
Speaker 1: this stuff. One comment just from David because this is true.
Speaker 1: It does just feel like the Stallions have given him
Speaker 1: going yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: It kind of in that market, it does.
Speaker 2: And again, you know, being down there last year and
Speaker 2: well I've been down there the last three years. If
Speaker 2: you didn't know that the Birmingham Stallions were playing at
Speaker 2: Protective stadium. You're not gonna find out anywhere else. Now,
Speaker 2: they did have a billboard up. It was one of
Speaker 2: those you know that rotated things. It wasn't a permanent
Speaker 2: billboard like near the stadium. But there's just it just
Speaker 2: felt like there's not a lot of outreach in that
Speaker 2: market for whatever reason, and you know they're not going
Speaker 2: to show up just obviously just because you win championships.
Speaker 1: Any other thoughts I had one, I have a couple
Speaker 1: of comments I'll throw any other thoughts.
Speaker 3: On the game itself.
Speaker 1: How do I hide of that of the current anything
Speaker 1: else from Saint Louis and Birmingham?
Speaker 3: The game?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, for Saint Louis and Pat
Speaker 2: Pat Pat put it the right way this is it
Speaker 2: was kind of funny what he says about Max Duggan's
Speaker 2: throwing motion. It's like it's the wind up and the
Speaker 2: pitch and it's like you you know it, you know
Speaker 2: what's coming, because it's like it's almost I'm not going
Speaker 2: to compare him to Tebow.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't do him that way because I think he's
Speaker 4: a better quarterback.
Speaker 2: But it's just it the there's a motion there that
Speaker 2: he's got to work on and I know you're jmar hater,
Speaker 2: but I mean two hundred sixty two yards and three
Speaker 2: touchdowns against a very good defense was pretty good.
Speaker 3: It's good. I'm excited. I mean i'd be I'd be happy.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm like, I'm out, you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 3: Switzerland at this point. So I haven't really interested.
Speaker 1: Did you catch any of the split game in your
Speaker 1: in your rewatch or.
Speaker 4: I did not?
Speaker 2: I have not yet watched it, And then like, I
Speaker 2: do want I kind of want to see it, but
Speaker 2: Bryce Perkins didn't play, so I was like, well, I
Speaker 2: don't you know, and then it was a you know,
Speaker 2: thirty to twelve games or eighteen or whatever it was.
Speaker 2: So I was like, eh, although, my god, I just
Speaker 2: I just seen the light.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize Jayleen McLain that threw fifty passes.
Speaker 1: That's why I was didn't either, So I was just
Speaker 1: gonna ask me.
Speaker 4: You know, no one else knew it either, apparently.
Speaker 1: Well, because I get I saw and that's why it's
Speaker 1: not I know that I think it was DeMarcus. I
Speaker 1: think I had retweeted on on there that you know
Speaker 1: both games are on the app. I mean, I get
Speaker 1: why well, I told you why they do it at
Speaker 1: the top of the show. But anyway, I just we
Speaker 1: don't need to do a whole deep dive on best.
Speaker 3: That's a lot. That's like a CFL style.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will go back and watch. This might be
Speaker 2: my treadmill watch in the morning.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, there you Danny Atlan's on fire if he
Speaker 1: was all fan.
Speaker 3: So this was a game.
Speaker 1: I mean, this was this was a game, and this
Speaker 1: came down to it and I get to you know,
Speaker 1: we talked off the top and because I knew John
Speaker 1: was driving back, so I text him a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff and I said, you know, you enjoy all this when.
Speaker 3: You get back. I don't know if you did it
Speaker 3: or not. You can maybe enjoy it or consume it.
Speaker 1: But I mean, far lesser stakes and not at the
Speaker 1: not at the goal line. But that was that just
Speaker 1: brought back the Seahawks there, but the least at least
Speaker 1: throwing that pass.
Speaker 3: In the interception.
Speaker 1: I thought, Oh, I just I was I don't know
Speaker 1: if I remember where I was when that happened.
Speaker 3: I mean the Seahawks game I was watching that. Maybe
Speaker 3: you do, But anyway, what'd you make of the game?
Speaker 2: Well, I'd really rather not talk about the Seahawks. Thank
Speaker 2: you too soon. But yeah, I mean, you know, what
Speaker 2: a great game. It was again one of those that
Speaker 2: comes down to the wire. But that was just very
Speaker 2: un Luis like, uh, you know, to do that, and
Speaker 2: it probably will not show up in a new version
Speaker 2: of this which by the way, is still available. I
Speaker 2: just wonder, if you know, I still got to wonder
Speaker 2: if if this might be it for him?
Speaker 4: Uh if you? If you?
Speaker 2: But I just finished this book, by the way, I
Speaker 2: don't know how many times that I that he said,
Speaker 2: like this might be it for me, Like, and.
Speaker 4: You're welcome.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to make sure you got on there
Speaker 3: big enough.
Speaker 4: There we go. How's that?
Speaker 2: But he just I mean, he does have a great story,
Speaker 2: but there's and and it's all in there. But it's like,
Speaker 2: after after reading that book, I'm thinking, and then this
Speaker 2: happens this year, and then this happens in this game,
Speaker 2: like he might go into coaching after this. I mean,
Speaker 2: still he's a Hall of Famer, there's no question in
Speaker 2: my mind. But yeah, but what a game. And again,
Speaker 2: let's not overlook the DC Defenders, because I mean this team,
Speaker 2: this team might be primed. I was it was interesting
Speaker 2: to see that the ESPN bat I think they were
Speaker 2: the longest odds for the UFL championship, which I mean
Speaker 2: to me, that's that's pretty surprising.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Uh, this this was this I David, I see your
Speaker 1: comments in the chat. We'll do David's comments at the
Speaker 1: end he screened. But I forgot about the injury reports.
Speaker 1: We can do about Mike Nolan well Panthers, Well, we'll
Speaker 1: do that. But no, I mean, this was like the
Speaker 1: Tamu game. I mean, this felt like you Prime Tamu
Speaker 1: running around and I mean, this is, like you said,
Speaker 1: it's probably the last time the Louis press is that
Speaker 1: we're going to play football against especially probably with s
Speaker 1: Jordan Tamu kind of like this. I mean, it's cool
Speaker 1: kind of way for them to go out after the game.
Speaker 1: I think it was after the pick and then they
Speaker 1: you know, there there's the sidelines. I think Bob got
Speaker 1: a about three words out and then they had to
Speaker 1: cut the audio because yes, I think he was pretty
Speaker 1: upset with Luis afterward.
Speaker 3: Blame that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to put the whole game
Speaker 1: down to that, but do you have any thoughts on
Speaker 1: just yeah that.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean Louis Perez did throw was say what
Speaker 2: are we looking at here? Three hundred and sixty yards
Speaker 2: and a couple of touchdowns and the yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: the the that one interception that was tough, but it's
Speaker 2: still I mean, I don't know how you hang a
Speaker 2: loss on you know, he wasn't out there playing safety,
Speaker 2: so he's not out there playing corner. Uh, you don't
Speaker 2: that loss, you can't. You cannot hang on him on
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Jordan Tommy, like he's just he is such he is
Speaker 2: so fun to watch and it feels like he there
Speaker 2: might be a little you know, he was one of
Speaker 2: those kind of eleventh hour guys you didn't know if
Speaker 2: he was going to come back or not, you know
Speaker 2: sometimes and it feels like there's a joy with him now,
Speaker 2: like he's he seems to be like, you know, really
Speaker 2: enjoying the play and a certainly the team. So it's
Speaker 2: it's just fun to watch him and fun to watch DC.
Speaker 1: So David does Funny Com says, I know, he says
Speaker 1: he has a lot of good comments.
Speaker 3: He said, you have to buy the Caper back to
Speaker 3: see how it ends. There he got out of me the.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I'm just continually impressed with DC
Speaker 1: here all the turma this year and Shannis Harris, you know,
Speaker 1: really never faltering and kind of getting these guys and
Speaker 1: you know here they are primed too to have a
Speaker 1: deep as deep a run as you can have kind
Speaker 1: of in the playoffs here in the UFL just with
Speaker 1: the one who can the gamp run.
Speaker 3: But I mean, they look really good.
Speaker 2: They look good, and you know, we're well, you know,
Speaker 2: they lose their head coach, then they lose their defensive
Speaker 2: coordinator and it flt like well that that would have
Speaker 2: been really easy for that team and that staff to
Speaker 2: just say, you know, it's this is not going to
Speaker 2: be our year. Let's just let's all look, you know,
Speaker 2: especially the coaching staff. Maybe we just move on. But
Speaker 2: what Fred Kaie has done as offensive coordinator with that team, Uh,
Speaker 2: they got such talent, you know, and even Abram Smith
Speaker 2: has not been like you know what we thought he
Speaker 2: might be coming back from that injury. They're still a
Speaker 2: great player they've got. I mean, that's just that's an
Speaker 2: all around good team and for them to be the
Speaker 2: longest shot on the board at least the last last
Speaker 2: I saw with ESPN bet was was interesting.
Speaker 4: It might be worth a few dollars.
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure I was looking on here
Speaker 1: to see if I had any other tweets. I know, Pat,
Speaker 1: I'm just seeing here, I retweeted Pat, how this Tamu
Speaker 1: and UH and louis kind of I think because he
Speaker 1: had an article out on football as well, kind of
Speaker 1: talking about Uh, you know, just kind of them playing
Speaker 1: against each other for that, I guess. Let me thoughts
Speaker 1: on them moving to the NBA game at the end
Speaker 1: of them. Let me make sure because I want to
Speaker 1: pull up my tweet talking about the Mike Pereiras or
Speaker 1: deem Land, you know, kind of all the any of
Speaker 1: all the efficients.
Speaker 3: Have any thoughts on the that the what was it? Minute?
Speaker 3: Was it like a minute ten left?
Speaker 4: Yeah? It was something. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because I'm watching, I see on my DVR that it's
Speaker 2: about to run out.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what happened here? And I did.
Speaker 2: I had to go to YouTube to watch, you know,
Speaker 2: the the actually the highlight. I never got to see
Speaker 2: it like you know, from the broadcast. But hey, listen,
Speaker 2: the UFL had its Heidi game. It got on, you know,
Speaker 2: I think it was on maybe Pro Football Talk had
Speaker 2: it on, So of course NBC is going to take
Speaker 2: a swipe at ABC or whatever. But it was I
Speaker 2: thought that or ESPN or whatever it was. But anyway,
Speaker 2: so yeah, it was a it was a bad move,
Speaker 2: you understand it. But my god, it was an It
Speaker 2: was a pregame show. It wasn't like they were delaying
Speaker 2: the tip for you know, you would understand, oh, well
Speaker 2: they're getting ready to tip off an NBA playoff game.
Speaker 3: That wasn't.
Speaker 4: It was pregame show.
Speaker 2: But we know, I guess we know where the ratings
Speaker 2: are and we know where this falls into the the
Speaker 2: tier of importance for Disney and ABC.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just it was like when the USFL was
Speaker 1: it two years ago? They got pulled for because Hardy
Speaker 1: Knight Live was starting or they needed to get the
Speaker 1: local news and before Sennel or I can't remember what
Speaker 1: the order was, but they got they got bumped on
Speaker 1: a Saturday, right.
Speaker 2: I do remember the the original the original XFL, Yeah,
Speaker 2: had Jennifer Lopez was was the was the host and
Speaker 2: it was a big deal and Lord Michaels was about
Speaker 2: to lose his mind. And there's actually I mean it
Speaker 2: was it was bad because the game. I think the
Speaker 2: game was either it was just a long game or
Speaker 2: it went to overtime and it and they were it
Speaker 2: was it was bad. That was that was a scene.
Speaker 2: And then of course people were making fun of how
Speaker 2: hew this this flagship show just got just got busted
Speaker 2: and had to be I think I don't know. I
Speaker 2: guess they went late. But anyway, for the for the
Speaker 2: XFL whatever this is.
Speaker 1: I had and I think, oh, maybe it was I
Speaker 1: had texted it to you. I think I wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about it was the Mike Pereira stuff in this game, right,
Speaker 1: you remind me on that.
Speaker 3: Okay, you were.
Speaker 4: Telling me about the catch? Was it not a catch?
Speaker 1: I did so, well, it just there's just to me
Speaker 1: this the officiating is just broken in the UFL, and
Speaker 1: so it it used to be. I mean even when
Speaker 1: the season started, like that was kind of their calling
Speaker 1: card this year was hey, we got these challenges and
Speaker 1: like we get full access and we have all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and you know, we've talked about this on here and
Speaker 1: the challenges and the and the touchdowns being pulled back,
Speaker 1: and then now it's like, well, uh, they were I
Speaker 1: think it was Joel Klatt was Admonichine so like because
Speaker 1: they used the challenge and they weren't in like a game.
Speaker 1: They were like, they weren't in like a scoring situation.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, last last week, you could challenge
Speaker 1: like anything and they would just find something.
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, yeah, that guy held over there.
Speaker 1: And then this week they're like, oh, Anthony Beck, like
Speaker 1: you're so dumb, like that was second down, like why
Speaker 1: would you have in charge? And then they had that yeah,
Speaker 1: the receiver caught the ball right the sidelines and they
Speaker 1: they're like, ah, that kind of looks like a catch,
Speaker 1: and Mike Prayer is like, no, that's not a catch,
Speaker 1: like no, way, like not way too close to review right,
Speaker 1: And then I think it was stupid or whoever it
Speaker 1: was through the flag.
Speaker 3: And then they're like oh, shoot, okay, I got to
Speaker 3: look at this. Wow, I guess it is a catch.
Speaker 1: I'm like, so then should we be challenging Like he
Speaker 1: didn't even bother to review it. Like in the the
Speaker 1: announcers are like that looks like a catch and Mike goes, no,
Speaker 1: it's not a catch, and then they challenge it and
Speaker 1: they looked at it like now like what is the
Speaker 1: point of having him be like the review guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, and he I do remember him saying that,
Speaker 2: and you'd given me the heads up on it, and
Speaker 2: he's like, oh that, you know, wouldn't that's that's too close,
Speaker 2: you know, wouldn't even bother reviewing that until oh I
Speaker 2: get okay, I guess we are. Does it correct me
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong here, and I'm sure the comments will too.
Speaker 2: Does it feel like the challenge has and the rules
Speaker 2: of the challenge has evolved a little bit over the season,
Speaker 2: because it felt like there were times where you could
Speaker 2: throw a challenge flat at the Super Challenge and then
Speaker 2: they might find something, but then it was like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: you have to tell us, And there have been there
Speaker 2: have been a few coaches that were like, wait a second,
Speaker 2: I've got to do what now, Like you have to
Speaker 2: tell us exactly the number and all this, and if
Speaker 2: you get the number wrong then no, it wasn't. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was just I didn't know if it was just
Speaker 2: me not paying attention. But it felt like that has
Speaker 2: evolved over the year.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely changed, because I remember last year and we
Speaker 1: talked about it on the show. Whoever was on that
Speaker 1: week that I think it was Saint Louis and d C.
Speaker 1: I think it was them still and it was uh
Speaker 1: back challenged something.
Speaker 3: It was a big run or they had something.
Speaker 1: He goes there had someone had to be holding there,
Speaker 1: someone had to be holding, and so then they challenge
Speaker 1: it and they're like, oh, yeah, the guy did. But
Speaker 1: then you had last week, you know Luis's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: touching on it pulled back because oh, well we should
Speaker 1: have called that and we didn't. And then we I'm
Speaker 1: remembering all this now, and then we had the Dean
Speaker 1: Plandino blow the play call mid play because they were
Speaker 1: reviewing the play and they go, oh, we have the
Speaker 1: whistle go off before the staff.
Speaker 3: No you didn't.
Speaker 1: He was five yards down the field rushing and then
Speaker 1: you blew the plate like you can't. What do they
Speaker 1: talk about in the NFL, like oh they got the playoff,
Speaker 1: Like whoo oh that was crazy, you know, like luckily
Speaker 1: they got that playoff because that would have been overturned.
Speaker 3: I just hated that. I just think that it's a mess.
Speaker 1: And yes, you went from you can find anything and
Speaker 1: then it was too powerful and then like Dean missed something,
Speaker 1: so now he's stopping the game to look at stuff,
Speaker 1: and then I doesn't want to look at anything.
Speaker 3: And there's way you can't have.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can have a Mike Pereira and
Speaker 1: a Dean Landino and they're different personality types, both trying
Speaker 1: to run this league.
Speaker 3: Officiating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say I still like this officiating and
Speaker 2: the openness of it and with the mics and everything
Speaker 2: better than any other league. I'll take it. I'll take
Speaker 2: it every time. And I know sometimes Mike Peer, Mike
Speaker 2: Pierre tries to be uh, he tries to be up.
Speaker 2: He tries to be a personality sometimes, and that's fine.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's okay, but I I do like it.
Speaker 2: But I understand what you're saying. I think they need
Speaker 2: to be a little bit more. Yeah, they They've got
Speaker 2: to be a little bit more consistent there.
Speaker 4: Let me check.
Speaker 3: I just got to be sure.
Speaker 4: He's always like, look let me check here.
Speaker 2: No, I like, but I do like the way that
Speaker 2: that they do the officiating and it's open and you
Speaker 2: hear you know, and you hear you hear the officials
Speaker 2: talk to each other, which is great. I mean I
Speaker 2: always there was one of the games and he's and
Speaker 2: one of the officials. She said like, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: and he was doing all this mess or he's doing
Speaker 2: all this business, and I was.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, he's no.
Speaker 2: She said, he's playing with this his yes, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: grabbing his crotch and all this business. And so it's
Speaker 2: like that's how officials talk to each other. If you've
Speaker 2: ever been down on the on any level, you hear
Speaker 2: him talking to each other like that.
Speaker 4: So that's kind of cool.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think they're going to try to They
Speaker 2: need to be a little bit more consistent in it.
Speaker 1: You just to me and I am also just to
Speaker 1: round this out, Sam Schwartzey and has talked a lot
Speaker 1: about this, and I think he even brought it up
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. You know, we always have this
Speaker 1: talk with the challenges and it's Wendy, I hope you
Speaker 1: can hear me. Okay, but he said in the original
Speaker 1: EXF you know, their original plan for twenty twenty was
Speaker 1: they would just review everything, right, so the coaches, because
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't want my coaches how to worry
Speaker 1: about deploying a challenge or a super challenge or whatever. Right,
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know it's hard not but especially some
Speaker 1: of these coaches like Shannon Harris or Jim Trump, like okay,
Speaker 1: good luck game promoted mid season and also now you
Speaker 1: got to remember to do this, like it's an the possibility.
Speaker 1: So I like that them doing all that, it's just
Speaker 1: so broken. And even then like Stoops won the challenge
Speaker 1: and then they're like, well that's your two challenges. You
Speaker 1: lost your challenge and he's like, but I won, Like
Speaker 1: I won.
Speaker 4: The challenges, Like what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Like, what do you mean I lost both of my challenges.
Speaker 1: You guys were wrong twice. I told you twice, and
Speaker 1: now I'm screwed.
Speaker 2: Yo, And uh that might have been the play where
Speaker 2: the official said that's a UFL rule.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you have I think it's like the word,
Speaker 1: but you just need to decide it, because yes you
Speaker 1: can't because it was. It's it's just it's not the
Speaker 1: same rule, it's not the same deployment. And I think
Speaker 1: that what I think happened is I think they got
Speaker 1: screwed on some of these whatever and now they're like,
Speaker 1: we really have to keep.
Speaker 3: An eye on all this stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you can't talk about training your officials,
Speaker 1: and like we promote all these guys to the NFL
Speaker 1: and then also like having this kind of stuff anyway,
Speaker 1: that's just it.
Speaker 2: It's a work in progress, but it's a great It's
Speaker 2: it's great in theory. Uh you know, sometimes you just
Speaker 2: it's all in the execution sometimes. But I'll still take
Speaker 2: it over you know, the whatever, you know, the Ivory
Speaker 2: Tower that some of the NFL officials are in.
Speaker 1: Last comment for me today because we'll get out of here.
Speaker 1: David had this. I just wanted to make sure we
Speaker 1: talked about the depth chart just super.
Speaker 3: Quick on this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there was all they they didn't have the
Speaker 1: right quarterbacks listed, you know, for Michigan that he was
Speaker 1: listed as probable and kind of probable, right I.
Speaker 3: And and what's your thoughts and then all show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think this was gamesmanship. But but
Speaker 2: David brings up a very good point. Gamesmanship is one
Speaker 2: thing people are put bunny on these games, and as
Speaker 2: he points out rightfully, so they're partners with underdog. Not
Speaker 2: to mention, I don't know if you've ever noticed this,
Speaker 2: but ESPN talks a lot about the over under and
Speaker 2: other prop bets and things like that. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know about investigated. But I do think that there
Speaker 2: might be some questions that they sit down and say
Speaker 2: this is this is this is not how we do
Speaker 2: things here. If you is he really probable or is
Speaker 2: is he out like that's I mean to say he's
Speaker 2: probable and then doesn't play that that stinks that there's
Speaker 2: something stinks about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just to me, I don't know if I
Speaker 3: need to still have it up or not.
Speaker 1: I just like it just annoys me because and this
Speaker 1: is what I tweeted. Whoever someone had tweeted out like
Speaker 1: one of the fantasy guys. Jake's one of the guys
Speaker 1: I've had on that runs the fancy stuff, and yeah,
Speaker 1: he was complaining in and I just said it just
Speaker 1: they're so unaware. They're just so unaware of how gambling
Speaker 1: and sports betty works. And I said, if they high it,
Speaker 1: not me, I don't know anything about I don't on it,
Speaker 1: like I don't.
Speaker 3: I can't bet on sports because I get too upset.
Speaker 3: Like I can't. I just I will never bet.
Speaker 4: I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: You don't need to worry about it because I'll blow
Speaker 1: a gasket. But you need to if you hired someone
Speaker 1: for six figures and just said all you need to
Speaker 1: do is like you are in charge of the fantasy
Speaker 1: and gambling for the UFL and these injured reports like
Speaker 1: you would see ten times full. They don't understand this
Speaker 1: whole because what the hell would I ever bet on
Speaker 1: any of this stuff?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: I mean it's weak.
Speaker 1: I mean I would get if this was week one
Speaker 1: and all these coaches week one, like we know we
Speaker 1: could be a competition by week eight. There's no excuse
Speaker 1: why you can't. And I would be pissed if I
Speaker 1: had money on the game. Yeah, Jake, thank you, Yeah, Jake,
Speaker 1: I would just yeah, I'll give credit. He was the
Speaker 1: one that tweeted.
Speaker 3: I can't remember he though, but he's a good fanswer guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I think that that's right, that that turns people off,
Speaker 2: and it's not fair. It's not fair to people, you know,
Speaker 2: if it's you know, you and me betting five dollars
Speaker 2: or somebody else laying a lot more on it, I
Speaker 2: think that's something that they will probably look at. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I'm not trying to question, you know, like
Speaker 2: Mike Nolan being a cheater or something, but no, if
Speaker 2: that's if that was the case, where he there was
Speaker 2: some games and ship then that just can't happen.
Speaker 1: I bet the conversation would go like this, Uh Darryl
Speaker 1: or Russ whoever would be like, why do we care?
Speaker 3: And they would move.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I don't think he's cheap. I just think
Speaker 1: they don't. I don't think they get it. It was
Speaker 1: the same thing that the first year, and we would
Speaker 1: have to beg them to post the injury.
Speaker 3: Or the practice, the injury reports for the practice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember I think it was even Sam Shaddy,
Speaker 1: you know, on his thing on Sam Shady, like he
Speaker 1: tweeted one of them. I think it was last year
Speaker 1: and they got mad, They're like, well, you can't share these,
Speaker 1: and he's like, but you're you know, you're you're sending
Speaker 1: them out to the media members. And then we're not
Speaker 1: a lot like because even the first year, I was
Speaker 1: like should I be posting these?
Speaker 3: They just don't get it.
Speaker 1: But like you you were all football people, Like you're
Speaker 1: all football people, you're all NFL people, Like how do
Speaker 1: you not understand the importance of like on time injury
Speaker 1: report and like they're gonna come out Monday, once you're
Speaker 1: Friday or whenever you say, like, you're NFL people.
Speaker 4: How is that even a question? Like it's an injury report?
Speaker 3: Oh wait, I mean remember we used to get them
Speaker 3: at three morning.
Speaker 1: I mean you can get them or or uh they
Speaker 1: tweeted out Sunday's transaction or Saturday these transactions on Sunday.
Speaker 3: They go there was no transactions yesterday. What what.
Speaker 4: It's still a work in progress.
Speaker 3: Read I'm getting upset. I should get on anything else, John,
Speaker 3: anything else.
Speaker 4: I think you need to end this right now.
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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll be.
Speaker 1: About you know, we'll try to do it. We'll get
Speaker 1: all that stuff and then should be exciting John. Anything
Speaker 1: else you want to talk about.
Speaker 2: No, I appreciate it, and uh, you know it's all.
Speaker 2: It's I'm glad to be back. I think you know
Speaker 2: there's still there are things to talk about. We can
Speaker 2: get excited about these things.
Speaker 4: It's good.
Speaker 3: I had a great time.
Speaker 1: Like I said to her, He's like, why are you
Speaker 1: watching this game because I want to talk to my friends,
Speaker 1: like that's all I was doing. She's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: well she comes downstairs because what happened is I set
Speaker 1: up the treadmill on the TV. And then she's got
Speaker 1: her spin bikes and then she'll be like, oh, we're
Speaker 1: watching this or you know, so if it's like True
Speaker 1: Blood or something, at least it's like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like Eye Candy a little bit, like she likes some
Speaker 1: of the guys on there, but you know, for the
Speaker 1: you know, Dresser Wind isn't doing it for her yet.
Speaker 3: But anyway, all right, we're getting out here. We'll see
Speaker 3: you guys.