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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly

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video game show. Here at first I'm your host, Dylan

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must and I am joined by the Rightful Heir, the

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the False God of the Geek. First side Quest Trivia Battle,

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the Charted Kirkland Pattherer. How's it going today, my friend?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm doing very good. Yes, that was a beautiful intro.

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Can't let anyone forget I was digging up my my

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in the depth the depths of my parents dungeon for

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those Xbox three sixty games to solidify my points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if anyone has not yet listened to that trivia battle,

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go do so. Spoil why Kirklan may or may not

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have been robbed. You can go make up your own.

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Speaker 3: Call on that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I wanted to give your flowers here because

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I mean, you did great, You did great?

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Speaker 3: Did you win? Who knows?

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Speaker 1: People have to listen to the episode and decide for

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themselves to choose your own adventure. Today, though we are

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talking about some of the games I've been playing, I

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don't know what you've been playing, so I'm excited to

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find out what that is. And then the big news headlining,

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of course, this week is all about Xbox. Xbox announced

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some changes to game Pass and a bunch.

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Speaker 3: Of other things is releasing.

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Speaker 1: I just liked it a little bit, but I think

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I'm fine. Seventh, which is the release date of Monochrome Heights,

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which is a two D platform or released by a

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good friend of mine who anyone checked out the Chosen

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One that game jem I did earlier this year. I

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worked on that with the developer of Monochrome Heights. Fun

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little connection point there. I did a big interview with him.

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That's up on the you know, all the feeds now

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you can listen to. That released over the weekend. So yeah,

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go check out that game. If you like platformers, you

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like hard games, this is a really really cool game.

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Like I said, I haven't played the full release yet, but

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I've played a bunch of the betas and you know,

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demos and things like this, so it's a great game.

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Check it out monocrom Heights on Steam right now. By

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it because my friend is great and he made a

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really cool game. Okay, let's get into the games we've

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been playing. Kirkle I'm gonna throw it over to you first.

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What have you been playing lately?

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Speaker 3: Nice?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing too crazy? I did complete since last time

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I was on I did complete the first Uncharted game.

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Drake's Collection or Uncharted Click.

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Speaker 3: Whatever it's called.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I had never played through the first Uncharted

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game ever, and Charted two was the first one that

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I played, way back in the PS three era. Love

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that game so much, and for whatever reason, I just

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stopped there. Like I think I played the demo for three,

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but like never went beyond that. So yeah, I was

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on the PlayStation catalog and a little while ago I

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was just like, yeah, whatever, I just want like a

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very basic line your story with some shooting, you know,

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nothing like too crazy or difficult. By that point I was,

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elden Ring grind, so I just need something like a

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little bit easier And it totally fit that just what

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I was looking for there. And this last weekend I

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was able to roll credits on the first game, and yeah,

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I thought it was totally fine. It's definitely not what

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through that game, I just it was like the best

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thing of just a third person.

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Speaker 3: Historic shooter adventure.

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Speaker 2: And I just absolutely love that second game, and I

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do intend to go through all three of them, so

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I'm curious if it maybe won't shine as just a trilogy.

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I kind of forgot there was a fourth so yeah.

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Speaker 1: Collection, but that because they released the collection. I think

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for like PS four the kind of remastered version, and

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then I think four afterwards.

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Speaker 2: Is on the catalog, whether it was a monthly that

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it's just on the cattle.

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Speaker 3: I think it is. It's just not part of that

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Nathan Drake collection. I think, yeah, yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: And I've heard fantastic things about four, especially if you're

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Speaker 3: And I really enjoyed the first one.

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but just a very like simplified version of what I

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remember Number two being, and I imagine it goes even

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crazier in three and four, And it's funny, that's kind

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Sly Cooper game. When I did that collection like a

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long time ago, it was just like like, definitely the

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seasoning is there, like like the familiar recipe, but it's

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just like very basic compared to where they kind of

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go in in the second game. And yeah, no, it

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was lots of fun. There is the character Elena. She's

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she bounces in I think through all of the games.

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the first one because when I was playing the second one,

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Speaker 3: It's like, hey, we have a lot of history together.

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Speaker 2: It's just like, oh okay, so now it's kind of

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fun to be able to I have said that I've

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gone through that adventure and yeah, it was a good time.

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I'm definitely not going through and grabbing all the treasures

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like like I tried to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I told the story of how I got like

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ninety eight percent of the platinum for the second game.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I'm just never going to get it.

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pull up like a YouTube video and just go collect

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all these treasures and I just don't have the time

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to do that these days. But yeah, no, it was good.

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Speaker 1: How long was the playtime on that? Like six hours?

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have like eight hours total, but I feel like I

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had a couple hours before, like maybe I booted it

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up in the past and like did a mission or

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two but never went too much further than that. So yeah,

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one playthrough, I think it was like six, and I

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think the first one was or sorry, the second game

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is pretty similar, probably a little bit more, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I kind of think of those games as like in

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terms of the breaking down the gameplay of like big shootouts,

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climbing yellow painted objects, and like puzzles. Was there anything

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puzzles in this one, or there was more of this,

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there anything surprising or unsurprising about the gameplay?

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especially that it's like the first in the series. It's

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like the most basic of those of that version. So

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by the puzzles, like it it didn't quite go to

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like any game, the water levels just absolutely suck, so

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anytime you like swimming, I just hate that so much.

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like the overall movement of the character, it just the

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game feels a lot arcadier than I remember it being

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very realistic game. But the fact that I'm just like

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jumping around and leaping over all the terrain like I'm

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played a lot more realistic, like if I was just

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getting one shot headshots and stuff like that. But no,

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it's fun, and there's something also very like just comforting

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by having those like Arcadie feels like just the gun

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sounds like they just don't sound realistic at all, but

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like it's still just really fun in re minds, just

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like a mini clip type game. It's just like a

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side scroller shooter, I feel like it has some of

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those elements in there, but yeah, no, it's it's yeah.

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Speaker 1: When you replayed Last to Us earlier this year, did

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you play you played the whole thing or did you

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just do a few hours. I got like eighty percent

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Speaker 2: It's funny that the first time I played through the game,

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I redid it, and then I got like eighty percent

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of the way there. And for whatever, I think, if

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the show was over and I just kind of lost

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some of the buzz of Us, but I gotta go

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back and finish it. It's still installed, so I have

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no reason not to jump in there.

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Speaker 3: Probably just because we weren't all super jazzed on the show.

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whichcause I've heard divisive opinions on that game. But now

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gameplay because I've heard the gameplay is absolutely fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was announced during the State of play from

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like two weeks ago, which also showed off Wolverine and

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all that other stuff. So what's the next Naughty Dog

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Speaker 3: Then? Is it gonna be last at Part two?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 3: And is it finishing part one? Is it Uncharted two?

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rush to go into two, just because I've played it before,

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and I don't know. It's tough though, because I didn't

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think I was gonna be jumping in Uncharted one, but

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then I just got an itch to jump into that

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clear up some some memory in the system. And and yeah,

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I just want to roll credits and see that ending,

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even though I know what happens, just see it through

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the game. The game version, m.

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Speaker 3: Right on, right on. What else anything other than Uncharted?

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with with with the homies. Uh. It was fun last weekend,

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ten man like custom game, which I I literally haven't

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done that since like high school. So that was like

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peak leagual Legends game.

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Speaker 3: Uh, it was fun.

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Speaker 2: We had five of my friends and then my one

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friend's brother had like a bunch of his friends, so

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then we just like made yeah, a full lobby and

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we absolutely dominated them. It was it was. It was

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so much fun. And yeah, we just went on a

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tear that night. It was. It was lots of fun.

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two in the morning, all of us were just playing league.

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Speaker 1: It was I bet yeah, I probably had like a

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land party energy to it as well, like throw back

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And you know, those nights, they're pretty rare,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I have two well one one game and then the

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three plus four, that remake that released this year, and

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then I was like, man, I need to play one

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plus two. It's still an on game pass. I don't

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know what's going on here, but it was on sale

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on PlayStation, so I just bought that finally, after all

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these years, you know, I've been waiting and waiting, waiting,

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but I just couldn't stop. So I picked up that one.

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And then for weeks there I was just like jumping

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between those two games, just like out what levels am

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I feeling tonight? Knock out some of these bonus challenges, objectives,

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all that fun stuff. And then I went even more

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insane than that and went to the used game store,

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of course and picked up some of the older ones

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that I haven't played, and like half these discs didn't work,

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but thankfully they're all like five dollars, so the biggest deal.

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But I finally played through Tonax pro Skater five, which

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I'm guessing do you have not played that one, Kirklin?

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Speaker 2: No? I have not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that was a PS four era release, and

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which yeah, is crazy. It's like years after all these

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other ones, and it is like one of the worst

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games I feel like I've ever played it. Just it

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The gameplay feels terrible. The movement is atrocious. They took

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stripped out so much of like the combo ness of it.

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you're like, you know, tap double tap y or yx

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whatever you like to a new grind and you like

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keep the combo multiplier going up. It doesn't even have

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like that feature in there.

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Speaker 3: Uh, It's like.

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Speaker 1: It was intended it to be like a multiplayer thing

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where you like jumping big lobbies with your friends and

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power around and stuff, but like all the maps suck

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and have no personality and like no flow to them.

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Like it's just it's just an atrocious game. And it

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has like horrendous like reviews and all that, and it's

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like one hundred percent warranted. It is just not a

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good game by any stretch of the imagination. So for

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the fascination of it, it was, you know, interesting to

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check it out and knock it off the list. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: That game list is terrible. So yeah, I don't know

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what next.

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Speaker 1: I feel like next I need to check out maybe

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Project eight, because I've heard actually that one's pretty good.

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it's like not as good as their earlier games, but

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it's still like fine, still good enough. Still is like

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the good movement, which is the most important thing. So

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I might check out some of that. But yeah, that

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was kind of my my Tony Hawk journey there continuing off.

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Speaker 3: So that was good.

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Speaker 2: That exists. Like when I when I search up Tony

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out pro Skater, it just like it says all the

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numbers except for five, Like I actually have to put

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in five. It's as if it's just like a shadow

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and title, and it just it looks odd. It looks

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very basic and it's so weird that you can't do

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like the combos.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Kirkland my other game that I've been playing, which

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took me like a month to play through this thing

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because I was kind of slowly chipping away at it

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is Metal Gear Solid three snake Y been continuing.

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Speaker 3: Is that the new one, like the new the new

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remake one.

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Speaker 1: No I am not playing even though did just come

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out in August. Yeah, so this is I was looking

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into the history of this game, and my god, has

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it been released a lot of times. So it first

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released in two thousand and four, and then they re

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released a year later in two thousand and five, which

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I think was called Substance. Subsistence was the like version

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difference there, and it pretty much changed it from like

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top down camera to like more third person traditional camera.

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two versions. And then it released like a year year

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or two later as it was ported to the PSP,

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which I think probably had that same version, and then

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in twenty eleven it was released in like an HD

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version or HD collection, which once again I think all

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the new subsistence like that the three D camera from

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this point on, and then it was released again in

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twenty twenty three and as part of the Master Collection,

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which I'm pretty sure is the exact same as that

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HD collection, but it just had like a couple other

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games in the mix with it, but it was like

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the same version of metal Gear Solid three. And then

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of course, in as you just mentioned, twenty twenty five

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augustal metal Gear Solid three Delta Snake Eater was released,

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which is like a remake, although I think it might

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be a remaster with some other weird, Like I don't

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know where it is on that on that scope of things.

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From what I understand though, it is like pretty much

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a one to one roommake. But it's even more like

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the controls are just more straightforward because even though this version,

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this older version, like had third person like controls, it's

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still very janky, like it's not kind of what you'd

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expect for a regular third person game in the year

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twenty twenty five. So anyway, I am playing the twenty

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twenty three Master Collection version, which I'm pretty sure is,

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like I said, that twenty eleven HD remaster, which is

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a remaster of that second released version which had the

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third person camera.

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Speaker 3: So it's confusing.

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Speaker 1: That's not confusing at all, Right, that's pretty straightforward. Yeah,

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So I the reason I'm playing this version is because

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while I already bought this game, as I talked about

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on side quest, I played through Metal Gear Solid one,

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and I can't remember if I did talk about my

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time with Metal Gear Solid two. I played through about

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half that game and really just hated it, and it

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was said, ef it, I'm not going to finish this

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then just watch like a YouTube play through like for

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the second half of the game, but see, you know

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what are the set pieces, Boss's story stuff that I missed.

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So yeah, I just gave up on Melgear Salid too,

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So I don't know if I talked about it on

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side quest at all. And then finally with the release

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of the new one, I was like, you know what,

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I'm gonna jump back and play three. Even if I'm

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not playing the newest version. That's fine. I can still

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kind of have some fun here play Malgear Salid three

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along with a lot of other people. And I will say, like,

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this is it's an interesting thing that they released this

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big remake first instead of like one or two. But

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I actually think it makes sense because this is a prequel,

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like this is the in the timeline, I guess, like

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the first thing that happens, so it kind of makes

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sense for this to be the first one that they

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released in that in that perspective, And yeah, I've beat

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I've beat the game. I did finish this one on

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like mental Gear Solid two. I will say though, even

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though I didn't really enjoy it a whole lot more

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than Melgear Solid two, and I'm kind of I'm just

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maybe a little disappointed because I played Mulgar Slid one

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finally for the first time last year ish and really

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enjoyed the game. I'm like, man, this is cool. Like

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I've always missed this series and I finally played it

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and really enjoyed it. And yes, it's old and the

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controls are super jank and it's really confusing and the

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story is super weird, but like, I still really enjoyed it.

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And then two was not the case, and then three

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not really the case again. I just when it comes

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down to it, the most simple way I can put it,

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is like the story is not good or interesting, and

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the pacing sucks and the gameplay isn't fun. It's like

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it's like that sounds extremely cruel, but like that's.

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Speaker 3: Just kind of kind of how I felt.

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Speaker 1: Like. There are some highlights, some good moments, some funny

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care characters, and weird things that happen which I enjoy,

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but for the most part, like this game just didn't

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really do anything.

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Speaker 3: For me, which is which is too bad.

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Speaker 1: So I believe you've only played four really and then

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like a bit of five like the prequel thing, right,

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I don't think you've played this one, right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, four was the introduction to middle of your

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solid for me, and then I think it was it

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was like a playable demo thing, but it was like, yeah,

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I forget what that's called Wings of Liberty or something

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like that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. That was the I think that was StarCraft.

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Wasn't was a StarCraft, Yeah it was.

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Speaker 2: It has some title like that though, It's something Liberty

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or something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, liberty. Yeah, yeah, anyway, Yeah, there was some weird

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prequel kind of Free.

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Speaker 2: Of the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: That was the one I played number four. Yes, there

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you go.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so this game is interesting from the prequel perspective,

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and that's not something I knew going into. So the

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first hour he was extremely confused. I'm like, why is

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he a rookie? Why does he not know anything? Why

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does he not knows him these people? And then eventually

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I included on that this this game is really funny.

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I feel like there's so many things in this that

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did remind me a lot of Death Stranding. And I

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mentioned this to Travis on cast that there is like

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a reference to a movie called On the Beach in

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this game, which is weird considering all these years later,

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he you know, released Death Stranding two On the Beach

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and obviously he really likes that that name and that

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movie and all these references. But like, also this game,

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much like Death Stranding one opens with, is like so

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much cutscene and exposition before you get to play the game,

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like more than I feel like I've ever seen from

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a game this old.

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Speaker 2: Is.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's like maybe an hour and a

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half of like maybe you walk like ten steps like

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with the controller, and the rest of it is just

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like explaining all these organizations and like these concepts of

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giant mech creatures and then like the state of like

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these different countries and like that where they're at in

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the war, and introducing all these characters, and it's like

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maybe ten percent of that is like cool stuff, and

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most of it is just like I don't know, Kojima

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just loves tech and what and Rea and things like that,

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and he and he just loves to talk about them

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through the mouth of a character in one of these games,

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and I just think sometimes he's just so far up

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his own ass that like, what are we even doing here?

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Like none of this makes sense or is interesting in

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any way, so that that's too bad. And then I think,

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you know, it really gets away from that. But then

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there are a lot of cut scenes and a lot

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of sequences where there's not a lot of gameplay in

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between another big cut scene chunk, and I will say

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to the game's credit, I think the ending like the

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actual final cut scene. There's some good twists and there's

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some good character moments. I think it comes together in

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a pretty nice way and does a good job of

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setting up Metal Gear Solid one, which would obviously be

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the next one in the timeline, So can I kind

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of connect them that way? But then from what I understand,

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some of the characters that are big players in this

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game are big players and metal Gear Solid four, so

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I think it kind of works either way. Are you're

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gonna go back and play the original one play in

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timeline or or are you gonna play the games in

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like series release order. Either way you're getting like a

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good experience or a good setup in that way, So

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there's some good stuff going on there. I ask my

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main question for you with Meddle Gear Solid four is,

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especially because you're hit Man fan, you're a Dishonored fan, like,

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do you do you have much memory of the Stealth

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was the self Super good and Melgear Salid four.

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious how much you remember that, because I

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don't know, it's been a few years, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I remember that being like one of the things

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that blew my mind the most out of like that

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era of gaming was just I hadn't played a game

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that had stuff like that, Like especially when you get

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you got like a certain camouflage suit that you can

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just blend into like any surrounding, and it's just so sweet,

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like crawling like army crawling around and then you just

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like completely blend into any any environment. And I just

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remember loving like like crawling around taking people out with

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your little electric knife, your little shock knife thing. And

479
00:20:43,599 --> 00:20:46,400
then you also just had some nice snipers that you

480
00:20:46,759 --> 00:20:50,000
had access to, So I remember really loving the Stealth.

481
00:20:50,039 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 3: Again, that was a PS.

482
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,279
Speaker 2: Three era game that I have not revisited, so it

483
00:20:53,319 --> 00:20:57,440
could be really really horrible to today's standards, but at

484
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,759
the time it was definitely a game changer.

485
00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:01,079
Speaker 3: Yeah.

486
00:21:01,279 --> 00:21:03,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this still for the most part

487
00:21:03,519 --> 00:21:05,799
works for me pretty well in Metal your Solid one,

488
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,119
but then something about two and three, I just I

489
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,000
guess it feels so messy, which is maybe like intentional,

490
00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:14,599
but I just feel like it's so hard to get

491
00:21:14,599 --> 00:21:17,720
through an area without getting caught, and it's very unclear

492
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,279
to me when I'm gonna get caught, and like what's

493
00:21:20,319 --> 00:21:23,400
gonna cause to go into this frenzy. And then compared

494
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,039
to other games, I feel like a lot of stealth games,

495
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,759
you get caught and like you know, there's that initial

496
00:21:27,799 --> 00:21:30,039
period where they're not like fully hunting you down and

497
00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:31,319
you can like, okay, if I get back in to

498
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,880
cover pretty quick, like you know, they'll leave me alone.

499
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,240
And I just feel like that happens pretty rarely in

500
00:21:36,279 --> 00:21:38,319
this game. Like most of the time it goes into

501
00:21:38,319 --> 00:21:40,720
like a full on chase and I'm like way in

502
00:21:40,759 --> 00:21:42,559
the weeds and it's like, okay, now I just gotta

503
00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:44,960
kill everyone and fight through it that way, and like

504
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,319
you know, that's fine. But once again, the controls in

505
00:21:47,319 --> 00:21:49,440
this game are so janky that it's like I'm not

506
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,839
gonna have a fun action battle between these people because

507
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,519
you have to like you go into like first person

508
00:21:55,559 --> 00:21:58,599
mode by holding that down. Then you have to like

509
00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:00,839
click a button to regrets to your gun and then

510
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,279
like click the actual button to like shoot, and so

511
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,519
it just feels like like I don't have no fingers

512
00:22:05,519 --> 00:22:07,000
on my hand to do all these things that you

513
00:22:07,079 --> 00:22:09,480
only do mixed with like moving the control stick and

514
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,599
actually like aiming at things.

515
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 3: Uh so, yeah, I don't know.

516
00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 1: I just I feel like something about one got the

517
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,759
stealth balance right, and then I feel like with two

518
00:22:16,839 --> 00:22:19,039
and three it feels like they're just trying to amp

519
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,759
up the difficulty the stealth, and I, to be honest,

520
00:22:21,799 --> 00:22:23,839
played this game on the low is difficulty, and still

521
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,519
the stealth just felt kind of impossible. Like maybe if

522
00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:29,000
I kept loading and reloading saves and doing it over

523
00:22:29,039 --> 00:22:31,079
and over again, I could have got through these stealth

524
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,920
sections stealthily, but it just felt kind of impossible, which

525
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,359
I think is too bad, because there are so many

526
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,559
tools in this game, you know, like all tons of

527
00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:40,799
weapons you're gonna equip, and then like tons of different

528
00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:42,599
tools and you can only equip a certain amounts. You

529
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,480
kind of switch them out, and so many of them

530
00:22:44,519 --> 00:22:47,039
are really interesting and cool, and it's almost like like

531
00:22:47,079 --> 00:22:48,400
des straining too out a lot of that as well,

532
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,079
where it's like there's so many interesting weapons and tech

533
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,799
and tools in here, but just like finding the situations

534
00:22:53,799 --> 00:22:55,920
where they actually make sense to use, rather than just

535
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,319
like your trank pistol just doesn't like, I feel like

536
00:22:59,319 --> 00:23:01,119
there's a lot of room for creativity that I don't have,

537
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,720
which I feel like is a criticism. A lot of

538
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,720
people throw it like Dishonored, just like, oh, yeah, this

539
00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:05,519
game is really creative.

540
00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:06,759
Speaker 3: There's lots of cool things you can do.

541
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: But I'm not personally creative enough to find those things out,

542
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,519
and therefore it's not that cool. And I guess that's just,

543
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,839
unfortunately how I feel about this game, and kind of

544
00:23:13,839 --> 00:23:15,599
how I felt about Desterrainting a little bit as well,

545
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,279
like there's just so many cool things in there that

546
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,440
just don't really feel integrated or like maybe tutorialize in

547
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,119
the right way or something, so that's too bad. And

548
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,880
then I think that also kind of extends to the

549
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,200
boss fights. There's a lot of fun boss fights in

550
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,960
here in terms of like the their naming or their theming,

551
00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:34,759
And after I beat the game and learned about some

552
00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:36,200
of like the crazy things you can do to like

553
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,480
beat these bosses in cheesy ways, it's like, man, that

554
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,039
stuff is really cool, but I just never would have

555
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,839
discovered that stuff on my own. So I feel like

556
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,200
I don't know if the intention is you play this

557
00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:47,880
game and then you go online and like read you know,

558
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,640
wiki guides, or you talk with your friends at school

559
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,359
and someone tells you, oh, you can do this crazy

560
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,319
thing to like choose this boss, and then you play

561
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,839
the game again and it like blows your mind.

562
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 3: When that happens.

563
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,279
Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe that's like how it was

564
00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:01,359
intended to be ingested, But for me, there's just so

565
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,039
many cool mechanics in here that I just never really

566
00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:05,839
knew existed when I was actually playing the game because

567
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,920
they're so obscure and you wouldn't thing to do them,

568
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,839
and like, no other game has things like this, so

569
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,559
you just like don't have that like ready because you're

570
00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:14,119
you know, you're not used to it. It's not like

571
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,599
it taught to you from other games, because this game

572
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,279
is pretty unique in that way. So it's it's a

573
00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:21,000
weird backhanded compliment for the game I'm giving where it's

574
00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:22,559
like too cool and creative.

575
00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:24,839
Speaker 3: Uh for me, I guess.

576
00:24:24,599 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: Personally, which is which is unfortunate? Did you find that

577
00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:29,759
is the case with uh Metal yourseld four. Did you

578
00:24:29,799 --> 00:24:32,519
find any like weird uh mechanic things that you just

579
00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:33,559
couldn't quite connect with?

580
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,839
Speaker 2: Uh, there's definitely a lot of equipment that I did

581
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,400
not utilize at all, Like I remember there being like

582
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,240
different variations of like the throwables that I probably just

583
00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:47,279
never used, like at all. And it's funny you mentioned

584
00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:49,519
like the stealth being very difficult to the point that

585
00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:52,319
it would just end in in a shootout. I do

586
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,519
remember shoot like having shootouts a lot, so I I

587
00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:58,200
I I remember having cool stealth mechanics to utilize, and

588
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,480
there is like certain missions that like you have to

589
00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:03,920
be stealthy. But also because it's been so long, like

590
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,559
very well could have ended every single mission in a

591
00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:10,359
massive firefight with it without me full of your memory,

592
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,359
and so maybe maybe prepare for that if you eventually

593
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:13,799
get to four.

594
00:25:13,839 --> 00:25:16,519
Speaker 3: Do you think you're gonna keep going with the series? Yeah,

595
00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:18,359
I want to for sure.

596
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: Metal Gear Solid four is a tricky one in that

597
00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:23,359
it's just not easy to play right now. Like I

598
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,000
guess the only way would be to buy a PlayStation three,

599
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,240
find a disc, or like get an emulator on PC

600
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,200
that has like a PS three emulator, right, Like, I

601
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,119
think that's the only way you can actually play that

602
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,400
game right now. It's not in another collection, they haven't

603
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,359
released it recently, and obviously like PS three, emulation on

604
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,319
PS five just doesn't really exist other than like the

605
00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:44,519
games that they have streaming for which Metal Gear Salt

606
00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:46,839
is not one of them, like PS plus. So yeah,

607
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,240
it's just unfortunately kind of tricky. So I might honestly

608
00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:52,599
just jump to five and then when four is like accessible,

609
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,079
like play that one in the future. I don't know

610
00:25:54,079 --> 00:25:55,920
if that's crazy to do that, but the story is

611
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,319
already such a mess that I don't know if I'm

612
00:25:57,319 --> 00:25:59,519
going to like lose much by playing it out of order.

613
00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 2: And yeah, that was one thing. Going through four. I

614
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,519
did not understand a single thing of what was going

615
00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:08,400
on at all with any cut scene. Every cut scene too,

616
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,759
I'm like, man, this looks gorgeous, and this is PS three,

617
00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:13,440
so it probably looked like terrible to today's standards, but

618
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,319
still back then and I was just still flabberg acid.

619
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,720
I didn't understand why there's multiple snakes, but why there's

620
00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:23,279
big Boss and all these things are what's going on?

621
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was cool game. Nonetheless, Yeah, I guess

622
00:26:28,039 --> 00:26:30,920
very confusing. This game does have that same kind of

623
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,640
costume outfit system that you were talking about there, where

624
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,279
you have like all these I think I had like

625
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,240
fifteen different suits by the end of the game, where

626
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,920
it's like, you know, like Woodland camel, snow camel, and

627
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,400
then you get weird ones like a scientist outfit and

628
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,880
that one allows you to go into certain buildings without

629
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,039
alerting certain people.

630
00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:49,279
Speaker 2: Forty seven Yeah, yeah, very much.

631
00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:51,079
Speaker 1: So, like it was, it was cool to see some

632
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,599
of that stuff in there, Like I enjoyed some of that.

633
00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:55,720
I didn't feel like there was a ton of moments

634
00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:58,160
where you could actually be like, you know, have that

635
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,000
social stealth other than that one scientist moment. But I'm

636
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,960
sure there's like secret suits you can unlock to do

637
00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:04,960
some crazy. I think one of the suits is just

638
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,480
like him naked, just literally like unclothed, so you know,

639
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:10,400
if you're into that, or maybe those metal you're solid too.

640
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,440
But they've done that before, and I think the other

641
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,200
big change they made with this one is a lot

642
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,559
of it. You are kind of stranded in a jungle

643
00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:19,839
type setting, deep forest sort of thing, and there's a

644
00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:23,039
lot of survival mechanics in this game, like rather than

645
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,920
just I guess there are healing things you get, but

646
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,039
I found like it was very rarely find finding healing items.

647
00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 3: Instead, you're just finding.

648
00:27:29,559 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: Food in the form of like like snakes, like one

649
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,240
of the there's many reasons the game is called Snake Eater,

650
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,480
but one of them is that you're literally killing snakes.

651
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,319
Speaker 3: And eating them, and that's like one of the ways.

652
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: That you regenerate your stamina, which when your stamina is full,

653
00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:44,440
then you start to heal. But you're catching all sorts

654
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,599
of things, and then whenever you eat it, snake will

655
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,240
be like m or he'll be like and then he'll

656
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:51,319
like start puking. If you eat too much of these things,

657
00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:53,759
things can rot in your backpack, so if you it's

658
00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:55,400
there for too long, you just have to throw it

659
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,759
out or it'll make them puke. And then I learned

660
00:27:57,759 --> 00:28:00,200
some crazy thing that if you eat a bunch of

661
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,000
food and he's like not feeling good and like the

662
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,759
character whatever like status menu, you can go in there,

663
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:08,160
you know, like you can like turn him around, like

664
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,240
look at him from different angles. If you keep spinning

665
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:12,559
him around, eventually he'll just get so dizzy that he

666
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:15,279
just pukes and then it like removes your stomach ache,

667
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:18,519
which is like, again, that's so cool. But I didn't

668
00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:20,240
discover that on my own, because like who would think

669
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:23,759
to do that that's like absolutely crazy. And then at

670
00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:25,359
one point in a game, there's an escort mission where

671
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,440
you have to like feed another character and like heal

672
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,400
them up and stuff, which actually kind of worked because

673
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,319
it wasn't too long the sequence, so it wasn't like

674
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,119
extremely frustrating like a lot of xcort escort missions are.

675
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,880
But yeah, some of the survival stuff was pretty cool.

676
00:28:40,839 --> 00:28:44,759
There's even just healing your character. Like when you take damage,

677
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:46,279
you have to go into this menu and you have

678
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,400
like probably ten or fifteen different things that heal you

679
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,200
in different ways, like oh, you can put on a splint,

680
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,720
or you can put on a bandage, or you have.

681
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: To take I don't know, anti toxin.

682
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:58,599
Speaker 1: You have to like put all these different things, take all,

683
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:00,960
take all these medications, put all like a different bandage

684
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,440
or whatever, depending on what kind of injury you took,

685
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,279
which was honestly normal for like first half of the game,

686
00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:07,880
and then it kind of just became like Okay, now

687
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,400
I just have to click more buttons to heal, which

688
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,480
is kind of annoying. It like slows the game down

689
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,359
once you're later on, and yeah, I don't know how

690
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,839
much else I have to say, like the story, like

691
00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:18,279
I said, didn't really do much for me. I think

692
00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:20,759
that some of the characters work for me. There's there

693
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:23,279
is some some funny characters in there. There's a couple

694
00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:25,519
characters that have a really interesting.

695
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,279
Speaker 3: Like mystique around them.

696
00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: The one Eva is like the main I don't know

697
00:29:28,839 --> 00:29:31,440
character you're interacting with throughout the game, and of course

698
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,160
it's like it's like cringey Kajima, like she's just over

699
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,359
sexualized for no particular reason. But there are some stuff

700
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:41,559
for their character and actual writing that is pretty well done,

701
00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:43,640
and like the performances in this game are are pretty

702
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,839
solid and fun. It's very Hollywood filmmaking that way. That

703
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,400
of course, Kajima is a big fan of these eighties

704
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,759
action movies and whatnot, and he's paying homage to a

705
00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:54,680
lot of them with this one here. So yeah, I'm

706
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,400
glad even though I didn't enjoy it, I'm.

707
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: Glad I've played it.

708
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,039
Speaker 1: This is a series that I feel like, even if

709
00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:01,000
I'm not loving it, so kind of deserves my time

710
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:03,319
at least playing through Metal Gear sold one, two, three, four,

711
00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:05,599
and five. Like, I don't know if I'll go find

712
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,920
Rising and play all these like PSP ones or whatever

713
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,440
that existed, But just for like the five main games,

714
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,119
I do want to play them. I think metal Gear

715
00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:13,480
sold five sounds like it has a lot of cool

716
00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:15,839
mechanics I think I'll really like. And then, like I mentioned,

717
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,720
when four is more easy, easily accessible, I'll want to

718
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,200
play that one as well, especially because that is a

719
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,920
favorite of yours. I definitely want to experience it and

720
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,200
talk to you about it. So I will do four,

721
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,240
or maybe I'll like I said, maybe I'll dump at

722
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,079
five next and then four at some point, but might

723
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:31,880
take a few months break before I jump back into

724
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:34,000
continue my metal Gear journey here.

725
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's something so fascinating about just the like

726
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,960
the uh like the meta mechanics that Kajima always brought

727
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,400
to those those Metal Gear solo games, Like if I'm

728
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,279
not mistaken, there is one that you have to like

729
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:51,799
literally eject the disc to like progress forward in the mission.

730
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,799
Speaker 3: Like like it it's just.

731
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: Like weird stuff like that that, yeah, to your point,

732
00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:57,839
like how do you figure that out on your first

733
00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:00,680
play through? Right, It's it's like people funding these crazy

734
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,440
easter eggs and games, but like this is like way

735
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,599
back then when it was just a core part of

736
00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:07,039
the game. It's not like you're just trying to find

737
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:11,480
something in the backgrounds. But yeah, I loved in four.

738
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,400
It was just so crazy to me that you could

739
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,480
like play your eye like your character's iPod and then

740
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,599
you could just be listening to the music like while

741
00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:21,119
you're going through a mission, like like games have that now,

742
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,279
but like just back then in the PS three era

743
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,319
that that was so sweet doing like a boss battle.

744
00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:29,000
You just have this like crazy Japanese music going off

745
00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:30,920
and in your character's iPod.

746
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: It was great.

747
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:34,359
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, I mean there there is a like

748
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,960
a James bond S like song for this game where

749
00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:40,160
the lyrics are like sing about snake eater and all

750
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,119
this stuff, and like that song, that song rips and

751
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:45,119
it's used at good moments. But yeah, it's funny those

752
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,400
like meta things, like I think you talked about one

753
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,920
of them with metalgar Solid one is like you have

754
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,680
to like plug in a controller in a different port

755
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:53,920
and that like that's how you overcome this character who's

756
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,039
like mind controlling you. And I play the game on switch,

757
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:59,359
and like that is just not intuitive or good on

758
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,799
switch because like okay, and now I gotta synk these

759
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:04,920
controllers and and it just doesn't have the same feel,

760
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,680
but like obviously you kind of have to retain that stuff.

761
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,799
Speaker 3: And then one of them in this.

762
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: Game, one of the boss fights is against this like

763
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,240
extremely old guy's like one hundred years old, and you

764
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:17,119
can kill him by like going into your system settings

765
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:18,839
and like moving the clock forward a week and then

766
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:21,079
he'll just die of old age instead of you having

767
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:22,519
to fight him. And I don't know if you can

768
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:24,759
do that on the switch like Master Collection version, Like

769
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:27,079
I don't know if that's possible to do, And like, yeah,

770
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:30,720
that stuff is fun, but it's it's only fun to

771
00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:32,960
an extent, Like I can kind of enjoy it from.

772
00:32:32,839 --> 00:32:35,559
Speaker 3: Afar unfortunately, right, like actually experience that myself.

773
00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, a cool game, weird game, just not unfortunately,

774
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,720
not when I really enjoyed spending time to play. But hey,

775
00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:45,519
that's the way she goes to some of these old games.

776
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: You know. It's just uh, just what happens. M. So

777
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:49,599
there you go.

778
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: There is my time with Medical Solid three. How about

779
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,279
now we say a little shut out to our Patren

780
00:32:56,319 --> 00:32:59,759
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781
00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:03,960
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782
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,359
john with NO h And Sam. Green thank you all

783
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,960
for keeping the lights on over here at Geek. Versus

784
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,920
LIKE i mentioned earlier, today second episode of the show this,

785
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,359
Week Monochrome Heights Developer.

786
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:16,359
Speaker 3: Interview go check that.

787
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: Out and then you, know with all sorts of fun

788
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,319
stuff releasing this, week Tron aris is, out so we're

789
00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:26,039
doing a review for. THAT tv shows a plenty coming

790
00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:29,000
out right. Now and, YEAH i was just talking About Tony.

791
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,680
HAWK i have Another Tony hawk specific episode of ranking

792
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:35,279
THAT i Think i'm planning on releasing next, week maybe

793
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:36,720
with the next week or, two so keep.

794
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: An eye out for.

795
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:39,599
Speaker 1: That i'll probably put up on patroon a few days,

796
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,279
early so, yeah keep your eyes and ears out for.

797
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:43,920
That just subscribe and then you can see all that.

798
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,119
Stuff leave a Review patreon episodes early in ad free

799
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,240
all that. Stuff thank you for all to support, Everyone

800
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:52,720
and how about we jump to a quick ad break.

801
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,839
Speaker 3: And we'll be right.

802
00:33:53,880 --> 00:34:01,079
Speaker 1: Back, okay we are back to talk about xbo So

803
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:05,200
xbox And microsoft announced all sorts of things this, week And,

804
00:34:05,319 --> 00:34:07,480
KIRKLAND i know you're not An xbox owner and you're

805
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:10,280
not a Game pass, subscriber but you, Know i'm sure

806
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,119
this stuff is very interesting to you, nonetheless and we

807
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:15,079
can break it down. Together so the big main thing

808
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:20,159
here is that they have Taken xbox Game, pass which

809
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:23,320
they reorganize the tiers and pricing like last, year and

810
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,960
they said you want, What we're gonna do it, again

811
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,079
and they have renamed the, tiers reworked the, tiers changed the,

812
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:34,519
prices and a couple other changes that we'll get into,

813
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:37,199
afterwards but essentially the way it works now is there

814
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,519
are four possible. Tiers they've kind of borrowed some of

815
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:43,239
the PlayStation naming convention where they're using the words essential

816
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,679
and premium, now but they could just to make things

817
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,280
even more. Confusing PlayStation's essential tier is their lowest, tier

818
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,920
and Then extra is the mid, tier and Then premium

819
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,760
is the highest, tier whereas For Xbox essential is still

820
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,599
the lowest, tier But premium is like the second, tier

821
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,960
and Then ultimate is the third. Tier so of course

822
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:02,480
confusion IS i think part of the strategy on why

823
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:02,960
they do these.

824
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,599
Speaker 3: Things they just.

825
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: Want you to be, confused And i'll explain WHY i

826
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,880
think that's the case later.

827
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: On but here we.

828
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: Go so this was previously Called core when they did

829
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,599
the renaming last, year but now it's Called. Essential so

830
00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:15,840
this and the Prices i'm gonna be using today Are

831
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,400
canadian dollars because we Are canadian, people so you can

832
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,159
convert this local. Currency fifteen dollars for so many podcasts

833
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:26,159
is Always. American, oh Game pass thirty. Dollars, no it's

834
00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:28,239
not thirty four dollars for me AND i, care but the,

835
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,079
difference that's a difference for. Me so, Yes canadian prices.

836
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:35,480
Here the lowest tier is Called. Essential this is fifteen

837
00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:38,800
dollars a. Month pretty much gives You xbox Like, live you,

838
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,840
know essentially an online play for console, players and it

839
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,519
gives you fifty. Games you have just a slice of

840
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:47,159
the Game pass. Catalog you're not getting day one. Things

841
00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:47,840
you just get fifty.

842
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,519
Speaker 3: Games what games are? They who really.

843
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:54,039
Speaker 1: Knows there's probably A doom in, there there's probably a Sky.

844
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: RIM i don't even.

845
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,199
Speaker 1: Know what's on that tier because how WOULD i possibly

846
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:02,440
know That premium is. Eighteen this has access to two hundred,

847
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,000
games which is roughly half of the catalog Of Game.

848
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,079
Pass so which ones are?

849
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,599
Speaker 3: THEY i don't. Know you better subscribe to find.

850
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:11,199
Speaker 1: Out and then this one they say you get first party,

851
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,679
games uh like the The day one games within twelve,

852
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,239
months so you, Know Indiana, jones great. Circle you're not

853
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,559
getting That day, one but you'll get it within twelve,

854
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:21,320
months which essentially probably means always one.

855
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 3: YEAR i don't.

856
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: KNOW i think they say within to sound, nice BUT

857
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,480
i think it's probably alway gonna be one year. Later

858
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,440
there is STILL pc Game. Pass this one is the

859
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,719
only thing that hasn't really changed at. All SO Pc

860
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,400
Game pass is twenty dollars a month that gives you

861
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,679
the full, catalog but it's ONLY.

862
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 3: Pc of.

863
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,119
Speaker 1: Course you also have access TO Ea play with that,

864
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:40,119
one so a bunch OF ea, games and then The

865
00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:43,280
Big head Hon Show Game Pass, ultimate which gives you

866
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,519
access to all of the, games including The day one

867
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:51,119
releases on BOTH pc and. Console it HAD Ea. Play

868
00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:54,920
they've Added Ubisoft classics And Fortnite crew to this and

869
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,719
this Bad boy it's thirty four mother freaking dollars a.

870
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: Month, kirkland thirty four. Dollars do you know any subscriptions

871
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,760
that are that much per? MONTH?

872
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:10,679
Speaker 1: U i Think sony's highest tier is twenty five Dollars

873
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:11,920
canadian or twenty four.

874
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: That, YEAH i think you're. RIGHT i THINK i think

875
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,360
that would be the closest to. IT i subscribe To,

876
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,079
dezone which is the worst app. EVER i pretty much

877
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:24,719
just follow it for. Football that's twenty four. Dollars, okay

878
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,880
maybe twenty, five, gotcha which is a rip because it's

879
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,039
that's ALL i, get is, football but it's. Ridiculous but,

880
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,679
uh thirty four that's.

881
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: Insane mm hmm, yeah which is roughly a fifty percent price.

882
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 3: Increase that's What i'm waiting, for ye.

883
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: Insane, right because the strategy with these things And, Netflix, Disney,

884
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,559
plusts all that stuff is, Like, okay every year or,

885
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:48,320
too you kick it up a dollar or, two and

886
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,639
then like you, know it increases that, much you, know

887
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,760
years and years, later and then it's, like, wow compared

888
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,320
to what it was like in twenty, fifteen what it is,

889
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,360
now it's drass. Difference but, like by only bumping it

890
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,239
a little, bit you keep people in because they're, like, oh,

891
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,360
okay it's only all or. More it's only twelve dollars a,

892
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,639
year and that's how you kind of keep people looped,

893
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:05,159
in roped.

894
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:07,199
Speaker 3: In but game PASS i don't.

895
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: Know they, said let you know, what let's just jump

896
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,599
the shark here and jump by fifty percent. Up so,

897
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:14,599
yeah the the new the really the differences, here and

898
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,519
the way they're justifying this is by Adding Ubisoft, classics

899
00:38:18,599 --> 00:38:20,760
which is to be, clear not you be self H

900
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:21,960
plus Or premium.

901
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: Whatever you don't.

902
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: Get, acces like you don't Have Assassin's Creed shadows on.

903
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,280
There that's just like old. Games so if you want

904
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,760
you want Old Assassin's creed, games probably a Ray man

905
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,719
game or. Something that's what you're getting with, that WHICH

906
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,800
i which is also part Of PlayStation plus at the highest,

907
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,000
tier so they you, know it's not even like a

908
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:41,280
competitive advantage of overplaystation if you want to make that

909
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,440
one to one. Comparison and Then Fortnite, crew which And

910
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:46,480
i'm not A fortnite, guy So i'm gonna try my best,

911
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,079
here BUT i think this is essentially like the Monthly

912
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:52,599
seasons pass uh For, fortnite and then like some V

913
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:57,000
bucks on top of. That so you're, LIKE i, guess

914
00:38:57,079 --> 00:38:58,320
really the way to break it down is like if

915
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,480
you are already and a Game Pass ultimate, subscriber and

916
00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:02,079
you buy.

917
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 3: The Fortnite fortnite thing every.

918
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,679
Speaker 1: Month THEN i feel. IT i think you actually are

919
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,679
saving money with this new Game pass ultimate. Thing but

920
00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:12,039
if you are not that very specific person that somehow

921
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:16,079
has time to play tons Of fortnite and five hundred

922
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:19,079
Game pass, games then, like, okay you can save like

923
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:20,800
maybe a dollar or two or. SOMETHING i don't know

924
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,440
what the what it actually works out. To so those

925
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,840
are those are the new things for. It and then

926
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,199
the other kind of smaller changes is, well actually this

927
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,039
was a kind of a big, one but previously a

928
00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:32,239
lot of, games if not all of, them if there

929
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,840
was a game on Game, pass, uh if you went

930
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,400
to the store and you want to buy that, game

931
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,920
there would be a discount on that. Game that's kind

932
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,280
of the same for PlayStation i think for a lot

933
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,440
of those games you've seen it and PLAY ps, plus

934
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,000
you know you can get like maybe twenty five percent

935
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:45,199
off or whatever it is if you just want to

936
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:47,519
buy the game straight. Up so they remove that from Game.

937
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:50,119
Pass they that discount for the games is just gone

938
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:52,559
now that no longer. Exists and then they've always had

939
00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:54,679
this thing Called Microsoft, rewards which is like when you buy,

940
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,920
stuff you get like money. Back they've added like, Different

941
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,719
they've changed the caps on, these and they've kind of

942
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,199
reworked it a little. Bit one of those THINGS i

943
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,519
have never understood how it, works So i'm probably losing,

944
00:40:06,559 --> 00:40:08,079
Out LIKE i probably could save some money IF i

945
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:09,800
knew how this worked and like take advantage of it

946
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,840
as someone who subscribes To Gain pass and buys some

947
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,280
things On. Xbox But i've never understood how it, works

948
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,239
and they've changed that around.

949
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: Too so those are the.

950
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: Changes but, yeah the biggest whopper of course being that

951
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,800
big price increase To Game Pass. Ultimate there's some Other

952
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,119
xbox things, afterwards But kirkland just throwing all that at.

953
00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:28,559
You what do You what do you think about these

954
00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:31,199
Big xbox? Changes AND i don't, know does it make

955
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,159
any sense to? You can you see the vision.

956
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,639
Speaker 2: Other than just like business, wise like maybe they're a

957
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:42,159
lot more in the hole than it. Seems these are

958
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:45,480
just these seems like aggressive like financial moves of like,

959
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:48,079
okay like we're not making money. Here this is like

960
00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:49,440
got to put our foot down and got to make

961
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,480
some big. Decisions just from What i've seen online and

962
00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:57,239
the overall, buzz it's been pretty negative and just of,

963
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,719
course like the memes going around where like the website

964
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,840
was just crashing because everybody was trying to. Unsubscribe that

965
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,239
that's pretty crazy to. Me so as someone that doesn't

966
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,639
know An xbox and isn't a Game pass user and

967
00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:10,480
has no skin in the, Game i'm just on the

968
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,960
sideline with my, popcorn just just enjoying my, PlayStation uh

969
00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:18,760
catalog and. Happy it's not my you, know my my.

970
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,239
Company that's that's making those moves to affect. Me but,

971
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:26,000
no it's brutal because Game pass has been just fantastic

972
00:41:26,039 --> 00:41:28,719
and although like PlayStation has like a really good catalog

973
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:32,119
of what they've, HAD i feel like what Game pass

974
00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:34,679
has especially just combining it with the PlayStation or sorry

975
00:41:34,679 --> 00:41:38,000
THE pc catalog with the, Console like it just seems

976
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,760
like it was such a fantastic system since. Launch really

977
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,760
like it's just been so fantastic where this is like

978
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,199
the first real oof here we go like like what

979
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,440
are they doing? Here but, YEAH i imagine they're doing

980
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,000
it for business, decisions but it's uh, yeah it's it's

981
00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:58,880
unfortunate for the users because that's a that's a steep dollar,

982
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,280
increase And i'm glad we did do Those canadian numbers

983
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,519
BECAUSE i feel LIKE i always hear The american ones

984
00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:06,599
And i'm, like, okay, yeah that's that's. High but it's

985
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:10,159
not nothing too. Crazy then what oh, gosh come On canadian.

986
00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:13,679
Speaker 1: Dollars that's, yeah, YEAH i mean what let, me uh

987
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,880
cause my mass skills are not. Great calculator app thirty

988
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,599
four times. Twelve so, yearly if you're Subscribing Game Pass

989
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:26,239
ultimate for a year as four hundred and eight, dollars it's, like, Fucked.

990
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 2: They're just not subscribed to that and buy like a

991
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,440
steam deck at the end of the.

992
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: Year, yeah plus taxes, too so add another four hundred

993
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,159
and fifty. Dollars called, it you know FOR us A

994
00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:40,960
bc residence. Here, YEAH i, mean this is A it's

995
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,519
just it's just it is an insane amount of price.

996
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:46,679
INCREASE i, mean there was a price. Increase it's consistently

997
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,079
like every, YEAR i feel like they've been bumping it

998
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:48,480
up a little.

999
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 3: Bit but they've been doing WHAT.

1000
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: I said earlier of just like a dollar or, two

1001
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,920
and it's, like, okay it's, reasonable it's, fine good. Enough

1002
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:57,639
but last year they did like another big one that

1003
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:00,159
was jumped up like twenty, five twenty six dollars or

1004
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:02,559
something like That canadian every year or every, month not every,

1005
00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:05,400
YEAR i. Wish and at that point that last years

1006
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,719
went for. Me that was the straw that broke the camel's.

1007
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,679
Backward for, YEARS i was just subscribed because it was

1008
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,880
low enough WHERE i got a lot of value out of,

1009
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,559
it and it was low enough that it wasn't impacting

1010
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:16,519
the bank account too. Much So i'm just gonna stay

1011
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:18,440
subscribed easier because THEN i can just play all these,

1012
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,400
things and even if there's a month WHERE i don't

1013
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,440
play a lot or don't play at, all even it's

1014
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,920
like it's, fine it's not too big a. Deal but,

1015
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,440
yeah when they did that price increase last, YEAR i

1016
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:31,239
canceled my Game pass immediately and left it canceled for

1017
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,920
a few. Months AND i Guess i'll put it this,

1018
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,639
way in the last twelve, Months i've probably been subscribed

1019
00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:38,800
to Game pass for six of those, months, maybe which

1020
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,559
is you, know half the, year down from like a full.

1021
00:43:41,639 --> 00:43:44,440
Year and that's just me, personally of, course but, like you,

1022
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,599
know at least like they were getting twelve months out

1023
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:48,599
of me every year for like four years or whatever it,

1024
00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:51,039
was but then that dropped down to six months of

1025
00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:54,679
the year. Roughly and now after, this like you, KNOW

1026
00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:58,039
i don't, know Maybe i'll spend two or three months

1027
00:43:58,119 --> 00:43:59,920
a year, Subscribe Like i'll just wait for a bunch

1028
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,320
of things to build, up you, know when there's, like you,

1029
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,599
know ten New day one games have, dropped And i'll

1030
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:06,599
subscribe In april and play everything that came out from

1031
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:08,679
Like january To april in that. Month i'm just trying

1032
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,079
to blast through it all a, month get through as

1033
00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:12,679
much AS i, can then cancel it. Again that'll probably

1034
00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:15,960
be my strategy going. Forward so like for me, personally

1035
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,960
they're gonna lose, money and THEN i also THINK i

1036
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,079
just this just makes.

1037
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: Me just want to play things more on.

1038
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,679
Speaker 1: PlayStation i'll probably buy more games on, PlayStation be SUBSCRIBED

1039
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,960
ps plus more and so a lot of that dollar

1040
00:44:26,039 --> 00:44:27,159
value is just gonna go over.

1041
00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 3: There and so we'll.

1042
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: SEE i, mean obviously a lot of people canceled, immediately

1043
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,559
as you saw with that website crashing a lot of

1044
00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:35,639
people on our. Discord travis who's like just stay subscribed

1045
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:38,360
to Game pass since he's had a SERIES x for,

1046
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,679
years he finally canceled it with this one that that

1047
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,880
was what broke. Him and, yeah there's gonna be a

1048
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,039
lot of people like. That SO i don't, know is

1049
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:47,679
the price, increase is the money extra money they're gonna

1050
00:44:47,679 --> 00:44:49,400
get from the people who are sticking. Around is it

1051
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,880
gonna outweigh the amount of people that are canceling That

1052
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,400
and we'll have to just remain to be. Seen we

1053
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,800
won't really know the answer to that question for some.

1054
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,079
Time and, yeah it's like unfortunate because the things that

1055
00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:00,679
they're adding to make up for, this the things that

1056
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:03,800
they're calling like we've made Game pass even better is

1057
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,320
Ub Soft, classics WHICH i don't really care. About, yeah

1058
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,840
Maybe i'll check out some of those, games but like

1059
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,960
WHEN i, do it's Like i'll subscribe to you Be

1060
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:12,719
soft plus a couple times a, year or LIKE i

1061
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,480
did For Star wars Out LAWS i did For shadows

1062
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,199
just to get a month in there play some other

1063
00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:19,559
games WHILE i have those. Subscriptions so, like this doesn't

1064
00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:21,400
really add value to me BECAUSE i was fine just you,

1065
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,119
know jumping On Ubi soft every once in a, while

1066
00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:25,400
playing twenty dollars to like access a bunch of games

1067
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,320
per a. Month SO i don't care about. This and

1068
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,159
Then fortnite thing doesn't do anything for, Me so Now

1069
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:32,519
i'm getting absolutely nothing. More i'm paying like ten dollars

1070
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:35,000
more per, month so it just feels like a total

1071
00:45:35,079 --> 00:45:35,559
slap in the.

1072
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: FACE i have a couple thoughts on.

1073
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,599
Speaker 1: This one is the confusion, angle WHICH i mentioned. EARLIER

1074
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,880
i think that is a big reason why a lot

1075
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,280
of these, Companies, Disney, Netflix PlayStation, Plus. XBOX i think

1076
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,920
that's why they have all these different tiers and names

1077
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,280
and they change this shit all the.

1078
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,039
Speaker 3: Time they change the.

1079
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:54,639
Speaker 1: Price is they just want you to be so confused

1080
00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:56,039
about it that you're just, like fuck, It i'm just

1081
00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:57,599
gonna pay for the highest tier because THEN i KNOW

1082
00:45:57,639 --> 00:45:59,239
i get. EVERYTHING i don't have to worry about. IT

1083
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,159
i think that is a big part of the. STRATEGY

1084
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:03,559
i think that's especially intentional with Game pass and how

1085
00:46:03,559 --> 00:46:06,159
they fucking changed the names of these tiers last year

1086
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,280
and they're doing it again this. Year what the hell

1087
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,679
are you guys? Doing that makes no, Sense but once,

1088
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,840
again they just want you to be. Confused do you

1089
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,199
know what two hundred games are on? PREMIUM i don't

1090
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,199
think a single person can answer that for. You no

1091
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,199
one knows what part of The xbox catalog are the

1092
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,079
things that go Into premium and what goes into That

1093
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:25,960
essential fifty games tier versus The ultimate. Tier like it's so,

1094
00:46:26,159 --> 00:46:28,480
confusing AND i don't, know maybe there's a website that

1095
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,400
breaks it down in a really nice. Way but then

1096
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,599
it's like every month that changes because more games leave Game,

1097
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:35,480
pass more games joining Game, pass so it's just impossible

1098
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,719
to keep. Up and SO i guess that they're just

1099
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,079
hoping that that confusion leads people to keep paying For

1100
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:42,000
ultimate and, yeah maybe they'll get a few months out

1101
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,039
of people who didn't realize that the price, increase and

1102
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:46,079
then they're just getting charged out the ass for another

1103
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:47,679
few months before they, realize oh, SHIT i got to

1104
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:50,800
cancel that because that went up a big. Amount it's

1105
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,079
not actually going up for current subscribers Until november, fourth

1106
00:46:54,159 --> 00:46:56,639
so you do get like another, MONTH i guess at

1107
00:46:56,639 --> 00:46:58,719
the current rate before it goes up a huge amount

1108
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,960
for odd people they just canceled anyway now for like

1109
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,199
the statement of. IT i kept mine for this, month

1110
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,840
But i'm gonna cancel it like before it renews In,

1111
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,480
november BECAUSE i don't want to get charge out them.

1112
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 3: Mount here's my crazy conspiracy. Theory.

1113
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,079
Speaker 1: Kirkland one of the other things here is this is

1114
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:20,920
kind of a report that Apparently xbox reportedly lost what they're,

1115
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,159
saying three hundred million dollars From XBOX pc players From

1116
00:47:25,559 --> 00:47:27,559
call Of Duty Black ops being on Game pass last.

1117
00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:30,639
Year so they they're guessing that they lost three hundred

1118
00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:33,440
million dollars by people not buying the game and instead

1119
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:36,559
just like playing it through that Game pass, subscription which

1120
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:39,039
is the first time that obviously they've Had call Of

1121
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:42,079
duty and could put it in their. Day one part

1122
00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:44,360
of the my conspiracy theory here is that like maybe

1123
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,840
they're doing this Now call Of duty comes out Mid.

1124
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,840
November maybe they're doing this now price increase such a ridiculous,

1125
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,119
amount want a ton of people to cancel, that so

1126
00:47:53,159 --> 00:47:55,400
that by the Time november rolls, around people are ready

1127
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,960
to pony up and pay the full price.

1128
00:47:57,679 --> 00:47:58,119
Speaker 3: For Like call Of.

1129
00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: Duty so they're gonna lose a bunch of, subscribers but

1130
00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:02,079
they're gonna make it up by like making a ton

1131
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:05,239
of more money For call Of duty sales next, month

1132
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,599
if that is their actual. Strategy LIKE i know for

1133
00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:10,559
a lot of these, companies it's all about that quarter

1134
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:14,119
and like looking at those shareholders and investors and being, like, Oh,

1135
00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:15,960
yeah look at that, quarter we were up so, Big

1136
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,000
so maybe that's all that, matters and then they'll like

1137
00:48:18,039 --> 00:48:20,400
fix that issue at the game pass price. LATER i don't,

1138
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,280
know but that just seems like you've lost so much,

1139
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,840
goodwill so many people are gonna be pissed about. This

1140
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,239
you can't even like Buy xbox consoles right. Now the,

1141
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,760
price like the tariff prices have gone. Up costo like

1142
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,800
stopped selling, them like all these things are. Happening so it's,

1143
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,960
LIKE i don't, know that just seems like a very

1144
00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:38,800
risky move if that is part of their. Plan but

1145
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,719
that's like the only that's like really the only way

1146
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,000
it makes sense to, me other than like they just

1147
00:48:43,039 --> 00:48:45,239
think they service is that freaking good that people are

1148
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,880
ready to pay that much more money for it on

1149
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,159
a monthly, basis which is a lofty presumption in my.

1150
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:50,599
Speaker 3: Opinion.

1151
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, NO i love a conspiracy, theory AND i feel

1152
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,320
like there's some some substance to, that to that theory,

1153
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,960
there it's that's a crazy on like the projected losses

1154
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,199
of just not having or sorry Having call Of duty

1155
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,679
just available on the game past eight.

1156
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:11,679
Speaker 1: One it it, is but also they spent seventy billion

1157
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,679
dollars For Activision, Blizzard so, like does three hundred million.

1158
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,639
Speaker 3: Really matter at? All For?

1159
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: Microsoft like obviously For, xbox that brand's not make a

1160
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,519
lot of. Money they're not doing, well but thankfully they're

1161
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:22,920
under The microsoft, umbrella which is like the most profitable

1162
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:23,639
company in the world or.

1163
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:28,079
Speaker 3: Whatever so that's why there's like pretty Much i'm gonna unlimited.

1164
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:31,079
Speaker 1: Bailouts because like they have like big monster like trillions

1165
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:33,679
and trillions of. Dollars so, LIKE i don't, know does

1166
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:36,039
three hundred million like really.

1167
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 3: Matter and the other Thing.

1168
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,639
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical about that number is like we don't really

1169
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:41,840
know what that. Means BECAUSE i Play call Of Due

1170
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,639
Back up six through Game, pass BUT i was not

1171
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:46,320
gonna buy that. Game are they counting my number of

1172
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:51,000
me booting up that game from Game pass as eighty dollars?

1173
00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:52,599
Loss because that's not the. CASE i was not gonna

1174
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:54,239
buy that game. Otherwise so are they just counting everyone

1175
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,920
who booted up on Game pass as a? Loss because

1176
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,800
like maybe that that certainly is true for a lot of,

1177
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,840
People LIKE i Think. TAYLOR i don't think he Bought

1178
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,159
Black op, six but he would have probably if it

1179
00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:07,320
wasn't on Game. Pass so there are people like that for,

1180
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,559
Sure BUT i don't know how true that number actually,

1181
00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:11,519
is you, know and we don't really have much information

1182
00:50:11,559 --> 00:50:13,679
that wasn't like From. Xbox they're obviously not going to

1183
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,199
like say that publicly because that not looked good for.

1184
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,280
Them but, yeah SO i don't know how much that

1185
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:18,840
number really.

1186
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:19,599
Speaker 3: Means it's it's.

1187
00:50:19,639 --> 00:50:22,039
Speaker 1: Interesting we can speculate on, it but it it's hard

1188
00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:23,000
to really quantify it too.

1189
00:50:23,079 --> 00:50:25,559
Speaker 3: Much, yeah, YEAH.

1190
00:50:25,519 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: I doubt they would ever go back to it, Though

1191
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,679
like if it's if it's a strategy to maybe just

1192
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,039
get the number increased ready for A caulity released or.

1193
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:34,760
SOMETHING i DON'T i don't think those numbers are really

1194
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:40,599
going to be going, down if like much at, all if, Anything, YEAH.

1195
00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 3: I, MEAN i.

1196
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,199
Speaker 1: DON'T i don't think the like the amount of backlash

1197
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:46,840
there would have been if they had, Said, hey, Actually

1198
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,639
call Of duty not gonna be a Game pass.

1199
00:50:48,679 --> 00:50:50,559
Speaker 3: Title. Again we tried. It it didn't work for.

1200
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: Us you're gonna have to buy that game. Separate people

1201
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,880
would be mad for a few, days but then people

1202
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:56,960
would buy it and they'd make.

1203
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 3: A ton of.

1204
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:58,599
Speaker 1: Money it'd be the best selling game of the, year

1205
00:50:58,639 --> 00:51:01,320
and they would be, happy And Game pass subscriber numbers

1206
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,039
would be the same or maybe a little bit. Less

1207
00:51:04,039 --> 00:51:05,599
LIKE i don't know how many people were subscribing just

1208
00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:06,039
For call Of.

1209
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:07,199
Speaker 3: DUTY i don't.

1210
00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:09,119
Speaker 1: KNOW i guess they have those those, metrics so Maybe

1211
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:11,000
i'm wrong, There BUT i don't know how much that

1212
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,800
would really make the. Difference BUT i think part of this,

1213
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,800
is like they can't really go back on this, fully,

1214
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,519
right because part of the increase Of ultimate fifty percent

1215
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:23,280
is they're offering The Fortnite crew thing and you be solved.

1216
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,320
Classics they have to pay you, Know epic and you

1217
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,519
be soft like some amount of Game pass, now, Right

1218
00:51:29,559 --> 00:51:31,239
like obviously they're already split in that part a little

1219
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:32,760
bit WITH ea because THE ea plays in.

1220
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,159
Speaker 3: THERE i don't know how that.

1221
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: WORKS i don't know If xbox just it gives a

1222
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,559
lump sum TO ea and says, like here's two billion,

1223
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:41,239
dollars we're gonna have this service thing and we get

1224
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,000
all this Game pass. MONEY i don't think it works that,

1225
00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:45,920
way AND i Doubt epic would take that deal with Game.

1226
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,679
Pass that seems like a bad idea for. Them LIKE

1227
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,960
i feel, like now this thirty four dollars like they

1228
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,920
can't really reduce that, Much like how much more money

1229
00:51:53,159 --> 00:51:55,960
Is xbox actually making know of, this considering that like

1230
00:51:56,039 --> 00:51:58,840
part of that extra money has to go To epic

1231
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,199
And fortnite and part of it to go a much smaller,

1232
00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:03,239
AMOUNT i will say to you be sold for the classics.

1233
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,239
Catalog so that's another thing, too is like they increase

1234
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,599
the price a ton for, consumers BUT i don't know

1235
00:52:08,599 --> 00:52:13,760
how much it's actually increasing xboxes, revenue like you, know

1236
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,880
for themselves on a monthly game pass, amount just because

1237
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,320
that amount is gonna be split, now and that makes,

1238
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,960
it LIKE i, said really hard to go back on

1239
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,400
this price, too because if they want to lower it,

1240
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,360
AGAIN i don't know how much margin they actually have

1241
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,760
to do that because they still have to Pay fortnite

1242
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,880
And epic because that's probably a contractual thing for at

1243
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,559
least a year or, two you, be solft is a contractual.

1244
00:52:30,599 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 3: Thing so, FUCK i don't, Know LIKE i just.

1245
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: DON'T i just don't see them like being able to rewind.

1246
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,480
THIS i feel like they just can't really go back

1247
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,239
and so it's just gonna stay shitty for a while or.

1248
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 3: FOREVER i, guess, yeah to put it, lightly.

1249
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:50,079
Speaker 1: So. Yeah LIKE i, SAID i think if you are

1250
00:52:50,159 --> 00:52:52,800
a person who subscribes to a Game pass ultimate every

1251
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,639
month always and get The Fortnite Battle Pass, crew whatever

1252
00:52:56,679 --> 00:52:59,800
the frick it's called in some v, bucks, okay you

1253
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,960
you probably benefit from. This cool you get like a

1254
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:04,079
you can combine your subscriptions into, One.

1255
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: You get a nice.

1256
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,559
Speaker 1: DEAL i don't know if, THAT i GUESS i assume

1257
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:09,639
That fortnite stuff you can like activated On xbox and

1258
00:53:09,639 --> 00:53:12,239
then it carries over to your other LIKE pc switch

1259
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:12,960
wherever you play the.

1260
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 3: GAME i don't.

1261
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: KNOW i assume, so SO i guess if you're that, person,

1262
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,599
cool good for, you happy for. You and THEN i

1263
00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:21,920
think if you're still if you're A pc only, person

1264
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,559
there is a price increase, here but like twenty Dollars

1265
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:26,880
canadian a month for that, CATALOG i still think it

1266
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,440
is a good. Deal AND i, think you, know for

1267
00:53:29,559 --> 00:53:32,280
years we've said Game pass the best deal in. GAMING

1268
00:53:32,679 --> 00:53:35,400
i think that maybe is still true FOR pc Game pass,

1269
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,440
specifically BUT i think in terms of like just general game,

1270
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,679
PASS i would actually give the point over to PlayStation.

1271
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 3: NOW i THINK i, think.

1272
00:53:41,639 --> 00:53:45,199
Speaker 1: With this price, increase the best deal in, gaming best

1273
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,960
value in game AND i actually think IS ps plus,

1274
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,800
again which it was for, years AND i think it

1275
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,639
is taking that helm back in my opinion with LIKE i,

1276
00:53:51,639 --> 00:53:53,360
said the one exception of, LIKE i still THINK pc

1277
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,559
Game pass is a damn good. Deal it's a little

1278
00:53:56,599 --> 00:53:58,159
more expensive, now BUT i think it's for what you're.

1279
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:01,039
GETTING i think it's still like a super duper solid.

1280
00:54:01,039 --> 00:54:04,039
Deal ALTHOUGH i don't Think visa Game pass has The

1281
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,239
fortnite you be seft, thing just be, clear it only

1282
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:06,920
has THE ea.

1283
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:08,599
Speaker 3: Play but you, know that's.

1284
00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: Fine let's see what else is there about? THIS i

1285
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,760
THINK i, think you, know a lot of this all

1286
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:22,079
comes back to That Activision blizzard. Acquisition seventy billion dollars

1287
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,039
has a lot more than three hundred. Million that's an

1288
00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:26,400
amount they have to think about and worry, about and

1289
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,000
for years it's, Like, okay it's gonna take us a

1290
00:54:28,039 --> 00:54:31,119
long time before they make that money, back, Right and

1291
00:54:31,159 --> 00:54:33,719
so obviously they got to find every which way they.

1292
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,360
Can they get through the couch for, quarters, uh charging

1293
00:54:37,519 --> 00:54:39,280
extra amounts for game. Pass they gotta do whatever they

1294
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,039
can to find that. Money and SO i think this

1295
00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:43,800
all comes back To Activision blizzard and that, acquisition and like.

1296
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 3: You, know blame Me.

1297
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: Xbox they probably shouldn't have done. That maybe we'll, see

1298
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,039
like in the long, run maybe the amount of money

1299
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:52,239
they make From call Of duty is worth. It BUT

1300
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,039
i also think like that deal should have been, Blocked

1301
00:54:54,159 --> 00:54:56,320
LIKE i think that is just too close to like

1302
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,039
monopolistic stuff like that should have been blocked by THE.

1303
00:54:59,079 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 3: FDC i don't think that should have been allowed to go. Through.

1304
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: There the amount of fucking the layoffs that have happened

1305
00:55:05,519 --> 00:55:08,400
because of that acquisition is, sickening and it still. Happens

1306
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,440
and that's another rumor is that more layoffs are, coming

1307
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,079
which is not even like a. Rumor it's like it

1308
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:13,719
is going to happen at some. Point it's just like

1309
00:55:14,039 --> 00:55:16,039
which studio is going to get the kick.

1310
00:55:16,119 --> 00:55:17,039
Speaker 3: Next it's.

1311
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: Unfortunate so, YEAH i JUST i in, retrospect LIKE i

1312
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,199
really wish that didn't. Happen and as An xbox gamer

1313
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:24,960
at the, TIME i was, like, oh you, KNOW i

1314
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,920
don't love the consolidation aspect of, this But i'm gonna

1315
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,320
get a lot more games on Game. Pass but that's

1316
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:30,800
not even, True like there aren't even a lot Of

1317
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,159
Activision blizzard things on Game pass, still like three four years,

1318
00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:38,239
later you're now getting like day one game Call due,

1319
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,280
Stuff but there's not even like the entire catalog Of

1320
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:41,880
call Of dude games on, There like there's just like

1321
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,239
three or four of them on. There so it's really.

1322
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,800
WEIRD i don't know why they've taken so long to

1323
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:46,920
do that. STUFF i don't know if it is like

1324
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,199
contracts that they can't, change but, YEAH i think that

1325
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,639
ultimately just all rolls back to, That AND i think

1326
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,719
if we could really wind the tape and block that

1327
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,079
and not all lout of that, HAPPEN i think we'd

1328
00:55:56,119 --> 00:55:58,559
probably be in a better world at this. Point AND

1329
00:55:58,639 --> 00:55:59,760
i think that maybe it would have been good for

1330
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,360
maybe that have to get more creative of they're like

1331
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,760
actually gonna become a, profitable like solid company instead of

1332
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,599
just like buying the rights to things and pain way

1333
00:56:08,639 --> 00:56:09,239
over pain for.

1334
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:14,159
Speaker 3: Them mm. Hmm, yeah, uh let's.

1335
00:56:14,199 --> 00:56:18,559
Speaker 1: SEE i guess the other rumors things going on here

1336
00:56:18,639 --> 00:56:20,360
is one of the rumors that we've heard about this,

1337
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,360
before but it's kind of circling circulating again with this,

1338
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:28,039
news is That xbox is potentially looking at releasing a

1339
00:56:28,199 --> 00:56:31,519
free game past here that oh you, know it's going

1340
00:56:31,559 --> 00:56:34,039
to be just chock full the nastiest ads you'll over

1341
00:56:34,119 --> 00:56:37,559
see in your life for fifteen. Minutes it'll be like

1342
00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:39,719
A kujima. Game you'll get like cut scenes worth of

1343
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:40,599
ads every.

1344
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 2: When you're not looking at. Them, too it won't progress

1345
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,800
unless you're staring at. That, yes you have to like

1346
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,360
move the nect or. Something you have to like move.

1347
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:51,159
Speaker 1: The stick on your, controller like you have to like

1348
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,159
be engaging with the game or something like that to

1349
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:53,760
move through THE.

1350
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 3: Ad SO i don't know what that will look. LIKE i,

1351
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:56,440
mean that is.

1352
00:56:56,559 --> 00:57:00,519
Speaker 1: Horrendous that's, like THAT'S i hate the idea of having

1353
00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:03,320
to boot up AN ad mid mid game or having

1354
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,679
to watch AN ad before you boot up a. Game

1355
00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:11,400
So i'm really curious to see how that rollout. Happens you,

1356
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,199
know it isn't offering at the very, least LIKE i

1357
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:13,840
think it's if.

1358
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,079
Speaker 3: Anything xbox tries.

1359
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,679
Speaker 1: So hard to like spin all these changes as like

1360
00:57:17,719 --> 00:57:20,239
we're giving you more, options but like that's such a

1361
00:57:20,239 --> 00:57:24,360
fucking cold, hearted stupid little. Lie with the game pass

1362
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,480
free tier, thing that is that is a new, option

1363
00:57:27,519 --> 00:57:29,079
that's something you have a new way to. Play and

1364
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:31,880
so MAYBE i really want to check Out Indiana jones

1365
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,519
with a great, circle and it's almost like a demo

1366
00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:35,440
or something, LIKE i just bade this demo with, ADS

1367
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:36,039
i guess of this.

1368
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:37,639
Speaker 3: Game we'll see what it looks.

1369
00:57:37,679 --> 00:57:39,639
Speaker 1: LIKE i don't have high hopes of it being good or,

1370
00:57:39,679 --> 00:57:41,880
interesting and that's not the WAY i want to enjoy video.

1371
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,400
Games SO i don't think i'd be checking that out

1372
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,199
much other than the curiosity of. It and then the

1373
00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:49,199
other thing that kind of went around and The xbox

1374
00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:53,239
kind of debunked it was people are saying some leakers

1375
00:57:53,239 --> 00:57:56,000
are saying That xbox it's maybe not planning to make another.

1376
00:57:56,039 --> 00:58:00,360
Console they're just gonna go full third party almost game pass,

1377
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,920
stuff maybe just you, know keep investing in, PCs that

1378
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,280
kind of, thing and Then Xbox hamon said that's not.

1379
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,199
Happening but like the amount of Times xbox has directly

1380
00:58:10,239 --> 00:58:12,760
lied in like public statements and showcases in the last

1381
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,079
few years is like astronomical at this, Point like anything

1382
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:17,280
that comes out Of Phil, spencer sarab, on any of

1383
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,800
their mouths is just complete horseshit like half the. Time

1384
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,960
SO i don't, KNOW i don't believe. THEM i don't

1385
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,519
think this will be their last. Console and they're obviously

1386
00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:29,480
about to release their like handheld, thing which IS i

1387
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,239
think like thirteen hundred Dollars canadian or something ridiculous like,

1388
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,000
that which is absolutely. Ft but, YEAH i think they

1389
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:42,199
will make another console in the, future BUT i don't.

1390
00:58:42,199 --> 00:58:44,280
KNOW i don't that might be their last. One i'm

1391
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:45,960
not really sure what it'll look, like AND i don't

1392
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,840
think we're any anywhere close to. IT i think it

1393
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,440
might still be a few years. Away would kind of

1394
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:51,599
be my thought, there BUT i don't. Know what do

1395
00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:53,599
you what do you think could or should be the

1396
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:56,320
future of Like xbox and like specifically having a console

1397
00:58:56,559 --> 00:58:57,639
to offer their services in.

1398
00:58:57,679 --> 00:59:02,599
Speaker 2: Games Although i'm not like An xbox, OWNER i hope

1399
00:59:02,599 --> 00:59:06,440
they continue making. Consoles it just seems weird if they

1400
00:59:06,519 --> 00:59:09,800
end up just transitioning fully TO, pc because that would

1401
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:14,559
make me think that instead of it being like multi cross,

1402
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:17,039
platform maybe it would just BE pc, titles like if

1403
00:59:17,079 --> 00:59:20,360
they if they completely stay away from An xbox dedicated,

1404
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,679
console AND i JUST i don't. KNOW i don't love

1405
00:59:22,719 --> 00:59:26,119
the idea of. THAT i although PlayStation definitely wins the

1406
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,960
battle when it comes to first party, ips like like

1407
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:31,199
Big TRIPLE a.

1408
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 3: Titles BUT i don't.

1409
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,199
Speaker 2: KNOW i still would hope that there is one Great

1410
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,440
xbox one that could still potentially come, Out AND i don't.

1411
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,440
Know it also just seems weird because as long As

1412
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,000
i've been a game where it's pretty much Been nintendo

1413
00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:50,480
PlayStation and An, xbox and like that's just kind of

1414
00:59:50,519 --> 00:59:54,480
the trifecta of consoles in my, mind AND i don't, know.

1415
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 3: It's just just.

1416
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,119
Speaker 2: Bizarre but when the rumors were going, AROUND i didn't

1417
00:59:58,159 --> 01:00:00,840
really believe. Them but that's also just because it just

1418
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,559
seems weird to. Me it's like there's no way that

1419
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:04,719
that could actually, happen more so than it actually being

1420
01:00:05,239 --> 01:00:09,599
a believable. Rumor but, yeah it's it's a weird time

1421
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:14,159
in The xbox mythos and curious what's gonna come of?

1422
01:00:14,159 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: It, yeah, YEAH i MEAN i think at this, point

1423
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,800
like with, this like you, know the REASON i got

1424
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:25,440
A SERIES x was mostly for the access of Game

1425
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,599
pass of, It like you, know it's cheaper than getting

1426
01:00:27,679 --> 01:00:30,679
a NEW, pc and the price of Game pass was really,

1427
01:00:30,679 --> 01:00:32,920
good AND i don't regret getting it with this change,

1428
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,159
here BECAUSE i still got like years of like an

1429
01:00:35,199 --> 01:00:37,639
insane amount of value out of that service and like

1430
01:00:37,679 --> 01:00:40,320
played a ton of games and every once in a

1431
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,360
WHILE i will jump back on that service and experience

1432
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,880
a lot of those games, Still and you, know like

1433
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,760
when A fable comes, Out i'd probably, subscribe like for a,

1434
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,679
month Because i'd rather Play fable for thirty four dollars

1435
01:00:50,719 --> 01:00:52,679
instead of like one hundred and ten dollars or whatever

1436
01:00:52,679 --> 01:00:54,840
the fuck a game cost these. Days and you, know

1437
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,800
maybe For Elders girls, six i'd probably just buy that

1438
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,320
one out, right but you, know for certain, ONES i

1439
01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:59,920
might make an exception and jump in there and it

1440
01:01:00,039 --> 01:01:02,079
can be worth it and all. That but, yeah like

1441
01:01:02,239 --> 01:01:05,400
if this obviously this is LIKE i, said they can't

1442
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,519
really retract on this because of all these other services

1443
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:10,039
that are jammed into this. Now so it's, LIKE i

1444
01:01:10,039 --> 01:01:12,559
don't really see myself having much of a reason to

1445
01:01:12,599 --> 01:01:14,559
get Another xbox in the future if it's just for

1446
01:01:14,599 --> 01:01:16,880
like a Game pass subscription here. There if you're, like,

1447
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,280
Yeah i'll probably just get A pc and that's HOW

1448
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,320
i can get access to those games WHEN i want,

1449
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,840
To so that would probably be HOW i would go

1450
01:01:25,679 --> 01:01:27,519
about that in the. Future SO i didn't even if

1451
01:01:27,519 --> 01:01:29,119
they do release, ONE i don't THINK i have much

1452
01:01:29,159 --> 01:01:31,239
reason to pick it up. MYSELF i think the only

1453
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,719
exception could be another rumor THAT i think me And

1454
01:01:33,719 --> 01:01:36,960
taylor talked about a few months ago is That. Xbox

1455
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:40,039
uh Maybe i've been looking at Getting steam integration WITH

1456
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,639
i don't know if it'd be specifically the SERIES x

1457
01:01:42,719 --> 01:01:45,119
or just like their next console in, general but IF

1458
01:01:45,199 --> 01:01:49,800
i could access my Entire steam library from My, xbox

1459
01:01:50,199 --> 01:01:53,199
like that is, huge and Obviously steam sales and things like,

1460
01:01:53,199 --> 01:01:55,320
this like there's so much great value to be had.

1461
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,199
There so if the Next xbox Had steam, integration MAYBE

1462
01:01:59,239 --> 01:02:00,960
i would consider. IT i feel like that would kind

1463
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,719
of be the one thing at this. Point but then

1464
01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:05,320
at that, rate like probably just get a NEW, pc

1465
01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:07,360
right and like even if it's a few hundred dollars

1466
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,239
more than what an the New xbox, costs BUT i

1467
01:02:10,239 --> 01:02:11,960
mean even, yeah once again with these tariffs and, stuff

1468
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,920
like The xbox prices are going up over time even

1469
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,159
though it's older, tech which is. Insane so uh, yeah

1470
01:02:18,239 --> 01:02:21,559
not looking great for this, company and it's, uh it's too,

1471
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:23,039
bad as. Man there was like two or three years

1472
01:02:23,039 --> 01:02:25,039
there where they were fucking crushing it and this year

1473
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,239
this is an amazing year for Game, Pass like the

1474
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,679
amount of big games that it came, out are coming. Out,

1475
01:02:30,679 --> 01:02:33,519
still the third party support was super. Good you, Know

1476
01:02:33,559 --> 01:02:35,920
Hollow Night exhibition thirty, three probably the two best games

1477
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,519
of the year in Game pass day.

1478
01:02:37,519 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 3: One that's super. Cool xboxes have some good.

1479
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: Stuff they have good things coming up this month In

1480
01:02:41,559 --> 01:02:45,360
Ninja guide And Outer world's. Two so, yeah it's too bad,

1481
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,519
that like they've this is almost like their swan song

1482
01:02:47,559 --> 01:02:49,239
to me in a way where it's, like LIKE i,

1483
01:02:49,239 --> 01:02:51,639
SAID i will still subscribe everyonce in a, while but,

1484
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,599
yeah like this was also another great year and they've

1485
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:55,639
been keeping it. Up but obviously if they're been a good,

1486
01:02:55,679 --> 01:02:58,079
year it means they've been spending a fuck ton of

1487
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:01,400
money to get licensing deals or like whatever to get these.

1488
01:03:01,239 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 3: Games in Game.

1489
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: Pass so obviously the prices their costs don't make any

1490
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,079
sense for the. Value but still now you're asking me

1491
01:03:08,159 --> 01:03:09,239
to pony up for, that.

1492
01:03:09,559 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 3: You, know errors not not gonna not.

1493
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: Happening, Dogs so uh, yeah it's it's too bad if

1494
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,320
you want to see if anyone else wants to see

1495
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,760
at more discussion about, this the discord was a blaze

1496
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,440
with this. One a lot of people talking about it

1497
01:03:21,719 --> 01:03:23,960
and some other rumors and things that didn't get brought up,

1498
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,599
here but, Yeah, kirkling any other final thoughts on all

1499
01:03:26,639 --> 01:03:28,840
This xbox news that we just kind of.

1500
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:33,679
Speaker 3: Devoured do you.

1501
01:03:33,639 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 2: Think Phil spencer's nearing his end?

1502
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:37,679
Speaker 3: Times?

1503
01:03:38,519 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: YEAH i wonder if this IS i don't know how

1504
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,000
this any of this stuff. Works if he's doing some

1505
01:03:43,079 --> 01:03:46,000
crazy last ditch, things maybe that leads to him getting

1506
01:03:46,079 --> 01:03:49,119
like a bigger retirement package or something like, that because

1507
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:52,920
he increased these next couple quarters because you, know through

1508
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,960
some like schemy fucking. Ways but then he just Toldy

1509
01:03:55,039 --> 01:03:57,559
sewers like the next person who takes. Over, YEAH i

1510
01:03:57,559 --> 01:03:58,840
MEAN i think it's time for him to. GO i

1511
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,119
think this whole fucking like get rid Of Sayah bond

1512
01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:02,760
and get rid of Mat, booty all the like those

1513
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,039
three of the, triage the top. THREE i think all

1514
01:04:05,079 --> 01:04:07,920
of them need to. Go BUT i don't, know, like

1515
01:04:08,199 --> 01:04:09,880
who do you put in that? Spot, LIKE i don't,

1516
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,679
know that's like an extremely hard job to fill at this,

1517
01:04:12,719 --> 01:04:16,079
point considering how much they've really just borked a lot

1518
01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:19,639
of this. Strategy so, yeah typical job for, anyone for,

1519
01:04:19,679 --> 01:04:21,880
Sure but, YEAH i THINK i for YEARS i was

1520
01:04:22,239 --> 01:04:26,039
kind of, like, yeah keep Keep phill around he's making

1521
01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:27,800
some good. Stuff but then when he started just lying

1522
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,480
all the time, PUBLICLY i was, Like, okay fuck this.

1523
01:04:29,559 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 3: Guy like, GUY i can't defend him.

1524
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,719
Speaker 1: Anymore and then, yeah try was supposed to a thing

1525
01:04:32,719 --> 01:04:35,559
too in the. Discord that was funny that apparently someone's claiming,

1526
01:04:35,559 --> 01:04:38,719
that Like Phil, spencer like there's someone literally on peril

1527
01:04:38,719 --> 01:04:40,880
At xbox that just like plays games under his account

1528
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,679
so that it makes him look like he plays more

1529
01:04:42,719 --> 01:04:45,079
things so people think he's an actual gamer and, stuff

1530
01:04:45,079 --> 01:04:45,960
which is, LIKE i.

1531
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 3: Don't know IF i believe that. One that seems like

1532
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:48,280
a bit too hair brain for.

1533
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: Me, uh but it would not shock me, honestly because

1534
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,079
Like Elon musk got caught doing, that and they're one

1535
01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:57,760
in the, sane these billionaire, Secos so, YEAH i don't,

1536
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,519
KNOW i could see him doing something like, that which

1537
01:04:59,559 --> 01:05:03,880
is just so weird and, gross but, uh you, know.

1538
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 3: It's the, way it's the way she.

1539
01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: Goes, Yeah, kirkland thank. YOU i know you're not An xbox,

1540
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,079
guy but thank you for joining me nonetheless on this your,

1541
01:05:12,159 --> 01:05:16,559
commentary which is always. Appreciated hopefully next time we can

1542
01:05:16,599 --> 01:05:18,760
talk About. Xbox it's like good, news but it feels

1543
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,599
like that is rare these, days BUT i don't.

1544
01:05:21,639 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 3: Know we'll.

1545
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: See they have a couple of games coming out this.

1546
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:24,760
MONTH i might play a couple of, them so we'll

1547
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,039
see what happens with. That but thank you for joining.

1548
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:30,119
Me thank you everyone for listening once. Again go check

1549
01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:32,159
Out Monochrome heights if you want to play cool TWO d,

1550
01:05:32,239 --> 01:05:34,960
platformer and we will be back again next week as

1551
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,840
we always. Are thank you so much for. Listening bye, Bye.

1552
01:05:38,400 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 3: Byett