WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.040 --> 00:00:05.280 Hey kids, it is what is it Monday November eleventh? 2 00:00:05.320 --> 00:00:08.160 It is Monday, November eleventh. We just wanted to come 3 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:12.560 in here before the episode and say we've gotten a 4 00:00:12.560 --> 00:00:17.120 lot of messages this week saying that our podcast gave 5 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:20.559 people a little lefter, a little light, a little whatever. 6 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:22.960 There's a particular review we got. 7 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:25.960 Yep, we got a great review. This is from You 8 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:29.280 Must Be an Angel Food and they say look for 9 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:33.359 the love and they write longtime listener, first time reviewer. 10 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:36.320 I thoroughly enjoy that age wel podcast, particularly when they 11 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:39.240 discuss a beloved movie or one I've never seen, but 12 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:41.719 never did I realize how therapeutic it could be. I 13 00:00:41.799 --> 00:00:44.600 listened on election day to escape the stress, and boy 14 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:46.719 did they deliver with some like it Hot. The Madonna 15 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:49.840 Bakery mashup was creative and hysterical and had me crying 16 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:52.240 from laughing so much. You saved me a trip to 17 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:54.600 the therapist and now I want to think of more 18 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:57.840 Madonna cake related songs. Thank you for doing what you do. 19 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:00.439 I can't wait to see what comes next. So this 20 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:03.159 is just one of the messages that we've gotten this This. 21 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:06.280 That's so nice. Also, can we just pour one out 22 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:08.760 for all of our therapists. Yeah, yeah, they're about to 23 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:11.120 have the fucking worst year of their lives. 24 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:15.799 Yeah, but we just wanted to say we're sure everyone's 25 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:16.920 feeling a lot of emotions. 26 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:21.200 Rage, we're feeling emotions. It sucks, It really fucking sucks, 27 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:23.519 and we're sorry. And yeah, heartbreak, we're here with you. 28 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:26.159 We're in it with you. The show is going to 29 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:27.159 continue to try to. 30 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:31.079 Entertain and I think entertainment is worth something these days. 31 00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:33.200 So we hope we can keep you laughing. We hope 32 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:35.000 you hear the light in our voices when you listen 33 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:38.239 to Rope, because it was it was recorded months ago. 34 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:41.159 I was recorded months ago, so we just wanted to 35 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:45.560 acknowledge that stuff has happened since since we recorded it. 36 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:48.200 Thank you for listening. We really appreciate that you're here. 37 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:51.319 And as you must be, an angel Food says, look 38 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:53.840 for the love because I think we're gonna need it 39 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:56.799 in the next few years. So thank you for listening 40 00:01:57.439 --> 00:01:58.760 and enjoy. 41 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:03.560 Rope was in LA a little while ago, visiting the 42 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:06.120 in laws. Had a weird thing happened. 43 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:07.680 In Los Angeles. 44 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:11.800 In Los Angeles never so we're at the hotel and 45 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:14.120 I always get up crazy early when I'm on the 46 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:16.080 West Coast because I'm an early riser here, and then 47 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:17.639 like for onally there for like three days, it's like 48 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:20.080 I don't even care, Like three in the morning. Yeah, yeah, 49 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:21.479 I'm up at like three or four o'clock in the morning. 50 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:23.000 So I'm at like three or four o'clock in the morning, 51 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:25.400 which means I'm like lying in bed, like doing the 52 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:27.360 New York Times Crossford puzzle on my phone, or my 53 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:30.039 husband is asleep next to me. Find whatever. I'm getting 54 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:32.520 up and I luckily I'm dressed at this point, and 55 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:35.759 someone knocks on the door, and for some reason, I'm like, oh, 56 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:37.520 I guess it's housekeeping. I'll just tell him to go away, 57 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:38.919 even though I knew we had put a do not 58 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:41.759 disturb on the door, and it is four four o'clock 59 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:45.000 in the fucking morning, and I did. I don't even look. 60 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:49.280 I just opened the door, and this kid is standing 61 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:54.080 outside the door. He's dressed in as like a teen 62 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:55.199 teen would be. 63 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:56.240 Oh okay, it. 64 00:02:56.280 --> 00:02:58.599 Is clearly a situation where neither one of us was 65 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:01.680 expecting to see the other person when the door opened. 66 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:03.159 Wait, how old is this person? 67 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:06.240 I'm going to say somewhere between sixteen and twenty. 68 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:09.919 Oh okay, okay, okay, okay, yeah you said kid, and 69 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:10.759 I was concerned. 70 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:12.000 Oh you forgot how old we are? 71 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:14.280 Yeah, yeah I was. I was like, I was like, 72 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:18.919 this this either a child or like something sketchy is happening. Okay, 73 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:20.919 and like, I mean something sketchy. 74 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:23.159 Something sketchy is definitely happening. But so I like, look, 75 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:25.560 and he looks at me, and I was like, hi, 76 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:28.599 can I help you? And the kid just ran. 77 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:30.919 Away, like full ran, not. 78 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:34.759 Full ran, but like moved hurriedly in the other direction. 79 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:38.639 I do not wish to have this interaction anymore. Goodbye. 80 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:41.199 Like I was like, that feels like a drug delivery 81 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:42.879 gone incorrect. 82 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:44.319 Is that what you're thinking? 83 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:45.439 That was my thought? 84 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:48.360 Okay, yeah, because four am does imply a drug delivery, 85 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:51.400 I think because my first thot we're given the age 86 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:56.159 of this person is a legitimately like missus Robinson situation. Oh, 87 00:03:57.039 --> 00:04:01.039 he's expecting his older lady lover to answer the door. Indeed, Yeah, 88 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:02.919 like she slipped away from her husband. 89 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:05.080 For the night and Bancroft is in there slowly rolling 90 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:06.360 down her her stocking. 91 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:10.199 Yeah, but again that's a that's a that's an eleven 92 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:13.840 PM activity, maybe even a one am activity. But four 93 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:15.159 ams a little. 94 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:19.199 Is rough for a drug thing. Frankly like, no, it's not. 95 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:21.279 If you have been out all night and you're like, 96 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:22.920 I need I need to pick me up, I need 97 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:28.000 to get to work. You know, you should have stopped. 98 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:29.680 You should have stopped. The kid been like, what do 99 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:29.920 you have? 100 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:30.360 What do you have? 101 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:30.839 What do you got? 102 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:31.959 I'm cool, I'm hip. 103 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:33.399 Are you selling drugs or sex? 104 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:37.040 Is this a cash grass or ass situation? 105 00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:40.199 If it is sex, no, thank you, thank you, because 106 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:58.040 I cannot verify your age. And America and this is 107 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:01.680 that aged well, yesterday's culture today. 108 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:03.639 And we are in classics month. It is November. We 109 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:06.040 are doing classic movies, movies from before the eighties. 110 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:08.160 Yes, this is the month where you want to get 111 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:10.240 on the couch with a warm apple cider. 112 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:13.399 Yeah, a shawl, that's right. I love a shawl. I 113 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:16.519 love a drap. A throw for hacks, yes, a nice 114 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:18.279 soft throw, a nice. 115 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:21.759 Throw awaited blanket maybe, and just turn on turn your 116 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:25.839 classic movies, huh, and have yourself a day, watch something 117 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:26.720 in black and white. 118 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:27.360 That's right. 119 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:28.920 Either have a laugh or a cry. 120 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:32.199 Our younger listeners are going, wait, our eighties movies not classics. Now. 121 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:35.240 It's like when you turn in the classic rock station, 122 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:39.519 they play like Melissa Ethridge and you're like, fuck everyone. 123 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:42.199 The first time I turn on the classic rock station 124 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:46.240 and it was legitimately like Rick Astley even, I was like, whoa, 125 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:48.399 that's from nineteen eighty eight. That's not that old. 126 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:50.680 Hey now, hey, now, don't dream. 127 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:55.439 It's also the classic rock station. 128 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:57.079 You love it? You love it? Erica, we have a 129 00:05:57.120 --> 00:05:59.959 five star Apple podcast review. Shall I read it for you? 130 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:00.519 Sure? 131 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:05.759 This is from Bizollina. Okay, okay, all right five Erica 132 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:12.160 hahs they right. I came upon that aged well when 133 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:15.120 I was looking for discussions about while you were sleeping. 134 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:17.680 Erica and Paul have been keeping me entertained for the 135 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:19.560 last few weeks while I care for plants in San 136 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:22.800 Francisco offices. What a cool job I've had, the exact 137 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:25.639 What an interesting job. Yeah, you must see an incredible 138 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:30.040 cross section of humanity. Many times already I have averted 139 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:32.600 my face to keep from being seen laughing in an office, 140 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:35.680 walking between accounts, or on a bart train riding two 141 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:39.399 slash from my car. The Bubba Gump shrimp play had 142 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:42.639 me losing it in front of the Salesforce tower. 143 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:47.319 I love the specificity of the location. I know that tower. Busilina. 144 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:51.199 I am visualizing you now laughing in front of that tower. 145 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:53.720 You know, you know what Bisilina was was at that moment, 146 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:55.920 they were a Bubba Gump shrimp jump. 147 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:00.439 I hope it was Wednesday, because then it was Gum's 148 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:01.040 room hump day. 149 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:05.240 There you go, There you go, There you go. Erica 150 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:09.839 and Paul, unlike other movie discussion podcasts, get detail slash 151 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:10.800 quotes accurately. 152 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:11.759 I don't know about that. 153 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:16.920 I correct you. I find myself correcting other podcasts thinking 154 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:18.639 how closely were you watching? Dummy? 155 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:19.839 I love this person. 156 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:23.360 I can identify with their cultural references, being slightly older 157 00:07:23.399 --> 00:07:27.480 than them. They genuinely enjoy each other's company, diplomatically disagree, 158 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:30.560 have pleasant voices, and never stray too far from the 159 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:34.079 topic for too long. I've heard other podcasts repeatedly bring 160 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:37.560 up something completely unrelated. One podcaster constantly brings up the 161 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:40.000 Will Farrell movie kicking and screaming, no matter what movie 162 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:40.639 he's reviewing. 163 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:41.160 Why. 164 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:44.920 I am very curious as to what podcast that is. 165 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:47.759 If you ever do a recording tour, come to San 166 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:51.040 Francisco to reviews. So I married an axe murderer until 167 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:54.279 that happens. Thanks for keeping me entertained and loling in 168 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:56.600 some quiet public places. 169 00:07:57.600 --> 00:07:58.000 Love it? 170 00:07:58.360 --> 00:07:59.040 Yes, so much? 171 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:01.720 Busy already covered. So I married an axe murderer. 172 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:02.279 That's right. 173 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:05.959 If we do come to San Francisco, we will do vertigo. 174 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:09.319 Oh yeah, it is a classic of San Francisco cinema. 175 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:11.560 There you go. See you had another poll because immediately 176 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:13.439 was like I had that in Missus Doubtfire and I 177 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:19.079 can't wait another one. Uh, Basilina, this is a delightful review. 178 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:21.839 It's thought out, it's well reasoned. There's a thesis statement 179 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:22.800 and then supporting points. 180 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:26.480 There's a there's a sensational burn at another podcast for 181 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:28.000 some reason, which I fucking love. 182 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:30.720 I loved it. I loved it. Don't be afraid to 183 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:33.519 tear down other podcasts in your review lifting us up 184 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:34.080 just so you know. 185 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:36.919 Yeah, we have no qualms about making other people feel bad. 186 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:39.320 That's right. You know what podcasts we like, We've talked 187 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:42.519 about them. Anyone else's fair game, Basilina. If you would 188 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:44.759 like that age bel Tope Bag, please let me know. 189 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:47.440 I will send it off for you, Erica. What is 190 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:50.559 the what is the film classic we are discussing today? 191 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:54.120 Oh, I'm so excited. Today is the nineteen forty eight 192 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:57.240 psychological thriller Rope. 193 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:02.240 Rope was requested by Sharon ma Luis Anika and Kay, 194 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:05.240 Kay I want, I want, Kay, this is for you. 195 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:08.200 Kay has requested this movie multiple times? 196 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:09.080 Did he bringing it up? 197 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:12.440 Yeah? Request Rope yet requested in gay month, requested in 198 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:14.879 classics month. I think may have come through a Halloween month. 199 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:17.679 Once follows a lot of you can go any of those, Patty, 200 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:18.440 it can fit into. 201 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.799 Any of those can And Kay was like, do this 202 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:25.399 movie and frankly, K, you were right. This movie is fun. 203 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:28.720 This movie slaps yeah all right. 204 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:32.080 Rope was written by Arthur Lawrence, based on the nineteen 205 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:35.080 twenty nine play of the same name by Patrick Hamilton. 206 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:39.279 It was directed by A One Alfred Hitchcock and stars 207 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:42.600 James Stewart, John Dall, and Farley Grainger. 208 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:45.559 While the play on which the film is based has 209 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:49.639 its leads being explicitly homosexual. 210 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:51.679 Deep throating on stage in nineteen twenty nine, people. 211 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:54.559 Ha fisting all the way up to the elbows. 212 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:56.320 We've got bent over. 213 00:09:57.960 --> 00:09:59.600 Loube as far as the guy see. 214 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:02.720 The audience had to sit on tarps. 215 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:09.879 The film, however, only implies their relationship still. Arthur Lawrence, 216 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:13.080 who the writer who is gay, has said he thought 217 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:16.840 their relationship was quote unquote apparent and suspected he got 218 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:19.759 by the censors because they just didn't have a fucking clue. 219 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:22.200 He didn't say the fucking part I did, but that, Yeah, 220 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:22.879 from what I know of. 221 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:26.600 Arthur Lawrence, it was definitely implied. Yeah, he said it. 222 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:28.840 By the way. Crazy. He used to live in the 223 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:31.440 West Village and I happened to have known which house 224 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:33.240 he was living in when he was still alive, and 225 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:34.720 I saw him going in and out of his house 226 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:38.039 every once in a while, like the guy the fucking Yeah, 227 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:39.559 I used to be in New York City tour guide. 228 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:41.440 I don't have ever mentioned that on the show. 229 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:42.000 He definitely have. 230 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:44.799 Yeah, that's it. He was on one of the streets 231 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:45.639 that I used to stop at. 232 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:49.000 Oh, that's interesting. Do you have a favorite moment of 233 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:52.840 homosexual implication, because I definitely do in this film. 234 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:56.440 In this film, the very first shot is very frankly, Yeah, 235 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:58.960 I'm like they are murdering their lover. That is a 236 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:01.960 their third, they are during their third. I'm convinced. 237 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:03.759 I didn't even think of that. Okay, I have a 238 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:05.240 different one, but I'll let you know when we get to. 239 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:08.399 Oh, okay, homosexual implication six years abound. 240 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:14.000 So Hitchcock filmed rope, using long takes and attempting to 241 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:16.799 disguise as many cuts as he could. To accomplish this, 242 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:20.120 furniture and walls were constantly being moved mid take to 243 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:22.679 make room for the camera. James Stewart was not a 244 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:25.480 fan of the process and commented the important thing being 245 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:28.080 rehearsed is the camera, not the actors. 246 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:30.919 I love James Stewart. You can't really, you can't get 247 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:32.720 me to not love James Stewart. I don't care. 248 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:35.559 I'm not trying to get you not love him. I am. 249 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:39.639 I have nothing against James Stewart. I am, I am not. 250 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:40.840 It's a wonderful life. 251 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:43.399 Pilm You just you just have nothing for him either. 252 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:49.200 Yeah, I don't think he's the most like a compelling actor. 253 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:51.879 Disagree. I don't think he's a good actor, but he's 254 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:56.360 compelling fair, he's not He's not great, but he is 255 00:11:57.600 --> 00:11:59.919 charismatic to like tense degree. 256 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:02.200 Yes, that that that I agree with. Maybe I should 257 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:03.960 say I should say good as opposed to comp I 258 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:05.679 was trying to say it nicer. I don't think he's 259 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:09.320 a great actor. He's fine. He's not terrible at all, 260 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:10.080 but he's fine. 261 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:10.480 Okay. 262 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:12.480 Yeah, that's kind of my take on Jimmy Stewart. 263 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:14.679 It's so funny too, Like, so the movie is meant 264 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:17.080 to look like a play. Yeah, basically, like that's what 265 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:19.919 that said. Gets a gimmick that Hitchcock was going for, 266 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:22.600 and I think it works. It looks it doesn't feel 267 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:23.480 like you're watching a film. 268 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:24.559 Oh definitely, Yeah. 269 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:26.759 Quite a bit of it. It also like it takes place 270 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:31.120 in one location. It's extremely dialogue heavy. There's there's almost 271 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:32.639 no actual action in the movie. 272 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:34.720 Yeah, this is a bottle episode of a movie in the. 273 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:37.679 Story exactly like they could have filmed in other locations 274 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:39.919 if they wanted to, like let's go down to the garage, 275 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:41.759 but they didn't do that. They were like, let's lean 276 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:45.279 into the fact that we are filming a play. And 277 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:47.639 I really liked it. I think it works. 278 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:50.759 It also gives the air of like a pressure cooker, 279 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.559 which is what's happening, Like they can't escape this space. 280 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:59.440 It's no exit, but with homosexuals. 281 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:04.360 With more homoseexu Affair Rope has a ninety three percent 282 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:08.039 critical rating on Rotten Tomatoes and a ninety percent audience score. 283 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:09.039 I think that's fine. 284 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:14.039 I think it's fine. I think the movie watching it now, 285 00:13:14.559 --> 00:13:16.879 it does come off as a little funny because the 286 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:19.639 performances are big, Like you mentioned this off mic that 287 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:22.799 they're almost pitched as if they were performing in the theater. 288 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:25.399 I feel like John Doll and Farley Granger were theater 289 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:28.879 actors and Jimmy Stewart is a movie actor, and you 290 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:32.480 can tell the difference. Yeah, because have you ever seen 291 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:35.159 a movie where Jimmy Stewart is giving the smallest performance? 292 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:36.440 No, visit the one. 293 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:38.759 I was like, man, how is Jimmy Stewart the most 294 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:41.240 subtle actor on my screen right now? 295 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:45.919 Yeah? Yeah, But I greatly enjoyed it, and it's it's 296 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:48.200 it's a lot of fun. Yeah. When did you first 297 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:49.039 see the movie, Erica? 298 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:51.679 I want to say I was probably in high school. Okay, 299 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:56.679 Paul's gonna make fun of me again. You know that thing, 300 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:59.960 that typical thing on a Sunday afternoon when you're seven 301 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:02.720 eight years old, PLoP yourself in front of the old 302 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:03.919 TV and watch her. 303 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:08.279 You get a hot mug of apple cider, and you 304 00:14:08.279 --> 00:14:10.080 you make sure your bones are wrapped up in a 305 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:10.919 nice afgham. 306 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:14.799 So I went through a Hitchcock phase when I was 307 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:19.320 in high school. Apple sauce because your teeth hurt. That's right, 308 00:14:19.399 --> 00:14:21.279 you have to take your dentures out to eat your food. 309 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:23.720 I went. 310 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:26.480 I think we talked about this in Psycho, I'm sure, 311 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:29.799 but I obviously love Alfred Hitchcock films, and I don't 312 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:31.159 remember the first one I saw. I think it was 313 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:33.559 probably Psycho or Rear Window. And so I went through 314 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:36.159 a phase where I was just watching all the Hitchcock 315 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:38.720 movies and obviously this is in there. Is it the 316 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:42.440 best Hitchcock movie? No, but it's you know, I'd make 317 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:44.360 it top ten. I would put it in the top 318 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:45.000 ten easily. 319 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:48.720 It's also just very like you can feel the experimentation 320 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:50.639 in it, like the fact that the long cuts like 321 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:55.120 that you can see the director trying to do something 322 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:59.519 interesting yep, and lots of times I don't like movies 323 00:14:59.559 --> 00:15:01.639 where you can like feel the director's thumb. I kind 324 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:03.960 of feel like the director's job is to allow me 325 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:07.840 to fall into the story without feeling all the machinations 326 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:10.720 around it. But maybe because it's so much like theater, 327 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:14.399 which is so much less realistic than a movie is 328 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:17.039 meant to be or a movie can be, it didn't 329 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:18.720 bother me here, if that makes sense. 330 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:21.320 Yeah, absolutely so how about you? When did you first 331 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:21.799 see Rope? 332 00:15:21.919 --> 00:15:24.240 I first saw it yesterday. This is not when I avoided. 333 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:26.360 This is not when I honestly hadn't heard about it. 334 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:29.840 Until it's a third tier or second tier Hitchcock. It's 335 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:32.679 not like when you think Hitchcock, you think of the Vertigo, 336 00:15:32.759 --> 00:15:36.360 rear window, Psycho, north By Northwest, like the birds even 337 00:15:36.440 --> 00:15:39.240 maybe and then this falls in. This falls in with 338 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.080 the other ones with notorious suspicion, like like you know, 339 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:44.759 Trouble with Harry, like those movies. 340 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:46.840 Yeah, and I had heard about it a lot. Is 341 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:51.519 just a queer cinema classic for lack of electorate, It 342 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:56.320 is definitely queer cinema. Alfred Hitchcock was, as we've discussed, 343 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:58.840 I believe it seemed to have an eye out for 344 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:02.639 the for the blonde ladies, for the blonde ladies, yes, 345 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:05.960 but also an interest I think in marginalized communities. I 346 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:09.720 think you know something there, So I like Arthur Laurence said, 347 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:11.480 like they knew that they were filmed. This was a 348 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:13.919 gay couple that was at the center of this story. 349 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:16.879 I'm not sure, but I think even when I was 350 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:19.159 a kid and I was watching this, I mean I 351 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:21.919 wasn't a kid kid, I was probably seventeen or whatever, 352 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:25.559 I was like, yeah, they're gay. Like I think, even 353 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:26.799 though it's not overtly experience. 354 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:29.200 Yeah, the only way I could think that you would 355 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:31.320 interpret this and not see them as gay would be 356 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:35.080 if you literally, I'm not even saying this to accuse 357 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:37.759 anyone of this, but like, if you don't view gay 358 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:41.039 relationships as a just a fundamental reality. 359 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:42.519 Of the world, as a possibility, as. 360 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:44.799 A possibility yet, like if you are either so sheltered 361 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:47.879 or whatever that you literally don't realize that a man 362 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:48.639 can be with a man. 363 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:52.600 Yeah, well it's also maybe you think because of the timeline, 364 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:55.519 you're like that wouldn't possibly be allowed, and like, but 365 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:56.360 it can be. 366 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:00.240 Erica. The tagline for Rope was the guest to Who's 367 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:03.639 dead on time? Oh? I like that. That's good. 368 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:04.240 It's wordplay. 369 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:07.799 Yeah, it's it's wordplay and it's pithy. That is six words, 370 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:09.079 done that, and it tells you. 371 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:10.960 Everything work with that hemingway. 372 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:14.279 Yeah, no one got paid by the word here. 373 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:18.400 Charles Dickens, Shall I read the synopsis? 374 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:18.920 Please deal? 375 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:23.039 James Stewart, Farley Granger, and John Dall star in this 376 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:27.920 Macabres spellbinder, which was inspired by a real life case of. 377 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:30.480 Murder murder, most foul. 378 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:35.720 Two thrill seeking friends Granger and Doll friends friends, quote unquote. 379 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:41.480 Friends, sisters, We're close, close. 380 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:46.599 Strangle a classmate and then hold a party for their victims, 381 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:50.799 family and friends, serving refreshments on a buffet table fashioned 382 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:54.960 from a trunk containing the lifeless body. When dinner conversation 383 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:58.720 revolves around talk of quote unquote, the perfect murder, their 384 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:03.680 former teacher, Jimmy Stewart, becomes increasingly suspicious that his students 385 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:08.720 have turned his intellectual theories into brutal reality. 386 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:09.240 Mm. 387 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:13.200 Excellent, that's good. Excellent, excellent, excellent. Paul, do you have 388 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:15.559 an actual synopsis for Rope? 389 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:18.680 Yes, I'm glad you asked, Erica. The actual synopsis for 390 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:23.359 Rope is two fancy boys attempt to plan the perfect murder, 391 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:29.119 but they can't stop stepping on Rakes. I have to say, 392 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:34.079 when I first watched it, I was expecting something really 393 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:37.400 tense and really gripping, kind of in the way that 394 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:39.960 Psycho is. And the fact of the matter is these 395 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:43.519 two Jabbronis are terrible at this. 396 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:47.160 You know, they're so bad at crime that they should 397 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:49.960 like this is embarrassing. I'm embarrassed for book. 398 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:53.200 This is not their calling. This is not their calling. 399 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:57.319 John Dahl should be playing a gossip columnist that everybody hates, 400 00:18:57.599 --> 00:19:00.680 and Farley Granger should just go be aiano player like 401 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.240 that actually is his calling. Quietly sit in the corner 402 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:05.799 by the piano. That's where they would be happy. 403 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:09.000 I mean, I feel bad that they it went so 404 00:19:09.079 --> 00:19:10.720 wrong the first time because they're never going to get 405 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:12.960 a second shot at crime now, that's right, they're going 406 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:15.920 away for life. By the way, just a heads up, 407 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:19.640 this is based loosely on Leopold and Loeb right, very loosely, 408 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:22.640 very very loosely. But if you if you're curious about that, 409 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:24.880 because I know it was brought up earlier, just google it. 410 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:26.240 It's kind of a bummer of a story. 411 00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:29.680 Yeah, I and yeah, if you don't know, maybe enjoy 412 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:31.559 your ignorance. It's not a happy tale. 413 00:19:31.759 --> 00:19:34.200 They were gay too, though, right they were Oh okay, so. 414 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:36.359 Well they were lovers. I don't know they were. 415 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:39.440 Well, this is true, just because you never know, you 416 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:41.480 never never know. It does make a little bit of 417 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:43.680 sense that the play from the jump has them as 418 00:19:43.680 --> 00:19:46.920 lovers totally, because you know what, finally we have real 419 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:50.759 representation when you can show queer people being terrible. 420 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:55.000 Look, we cannot forget that gay people can be assholes. 421 00:19:55.160 --> 00:19:58.839 Gay people can be bad at things too, including crime. 422 00:19:58.640 --> 00:20:03.400 Including crime. They can be nasty bitches, and we have 423 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:06.440 to remember that even though they deserve equal rights. But 424 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:07.480 that doesn't mean they're good people. 425 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:09.319 Yeah, they're equally terrible. 426 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:14.319 From all of us. All right, everyone stick around. If 427 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:16.680 you are a patron, you can you're just gonna slide 428 00:20:16.759 --> 00:20:18.519 right into the next section of the podcast. But if 429 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:20.480 you're not, you're gonna hear a couple of ads. If 430 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:21.880 you don't want to hear those ads, you can join 431 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:24.200 our Patreon at the three, five or ten dollars dollar 432 00:20:24.319 --> 00:20:27.720 level and you won't have to hear them. Everyone, just 433 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:29.480 stick around. We're gonna come right back, and we're gonna 434 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:42.559 take you through rope and we're back We open with 435 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:46.240 a shot on a Manhattan street far below, and the 436 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:48.400 camera starts to pan and we realize that we're on 437 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:51.200 the roof of a building. And suddenly we hear a 438 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:54.640 scream ring out and the camera finds the covered windows 439 00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:57.680 of a penthouse apartment. We cut inside to witness the 440 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:01.839 final moments of young David Kent as he strangled to 441 00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:04.240 death with a rope by two of his former prep 442 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:08.680 school classmates, Brandon Shaw played by John dol and Philip 443 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:12.759 Morgan played by Farley Granger. Twas Philip and Brandon in 444 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:17.480 the penthouse with a rope, the titular rope. Yeah you will, 445 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:21.839 thank you. As Philip twists the rope, Brandon checks for 446 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:26.200 a heartbeat and feels none. David collapses and the two 447 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:29.640 load his body into a large antique wooden chest a 448 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:33.559 casone if you Will, in the center of their living 449 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:36.359 room slash crime scene. One of my favorite little things 450 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:39.880 about this movie is that it's a play, right, so 451 00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:44.200 it's a fourth wall situation, but it seems like that 452 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:47.839 chest is just sitting like in the center of their 453 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:48.359 living room. 454 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:53.480 Yeah, it's against the wall at all, because people, I think, no, 455 00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:54.400 no one crosses, no. 456 00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:55.559 One crosses in front of it. 457 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:57.640 But the way it feels like you could And. 458 00:21:57.559 --> 00:22:01.039 There's one long shot where it's held very tightly and 459 00:22:01.039 --> 00:22:04.400 it's kind of looking past it and you can see 460 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:07.240 that the room continues. Yeah, so it's not there's not 461 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:09.599 a fourth wall there. It's not leaning up against the wall. 462 00:22:09.640 --> 00:22:13.640 It's a loft apartment, huge space, but a giant credenza 463 00:22:13.759 --> 00:22:16.880 in the middle of the I think anthropology Cellsy's. Actually 464 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:19.160 they probably give buy it with or without David Kentley's 465 00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:19.920 body inside. 466 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:22.519 I frankly expect better decor from my fancy boys. 467 00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:24.440 It is ugly. 468 00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:25.039 It's ugly. 469 00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:27.160 It's maybe look, maybe it's an antique. 470 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:29.279 Sure, you know he does say found it while he 471 00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:30.200 was antique in Italy. 472 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:32.400 You know, you know how the sissies love antique. 473 00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:38.839 If you have it, if you have an antique shop 474 00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:41.000 and a Nancy is inside of it, it's actually not 475 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:41.559 an antique shop. 476 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:42.559 It's not even an antique shop. 477 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:43.279 You need one of us. 478 00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:47.680 Okay, So you asked me earlier, what's the most overtly 479 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:50.039 homosexual moment in the movie. I am telling you this. 480 00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:54.079 The look of ecstasy on their faces, even the look 481 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:56.519 of ecstasy on David the victim's face. 482 00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:59.319 Oh you think it's an autoerotic asphyxiation. No, I don't. 483 00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:02.640 I really really don't. Although I'm sure Hitchcock knew his 484 00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:06.240 way around that too, I wouldn't be surprised. But it's 485 00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:11.240 almost like an act of like sexual arousal gone crazy. 486 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:13.200 Ah okay, I think. 487 00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:15.200 There's something there. I don't know if I'm making it up, 488 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:17.680 but I feel like less so Philip. But Brandon and 489 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:21.920 David look like they are in a moment of ecstasy. 490 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:22.799 Like they're coming locked. 491 00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:28.480 I'm being classic, I'm not, and they're shooting ropes, and 492 00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:38.920 so to me, it's so funny. Like again, seventeen year 493 00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:39.640 old me is like. 494 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:42.000 Huh huh, that's interesting. 495 00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:43.720 I'm picking up on some I'm picking up on a 496 00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:44.720 vibe here, you guys. 497 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:48.000 Wow, Okay, because you definitely get it from Brandon. Like 498 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:52.079 Brandon spends the majority of this movie painfully erect, Like 499 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:52.759 he should. 500 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:55.519 Call a doctor into that his erection has lasted more 501 00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:56.119 than four hours. 502 00:23:56.160 --> 00:24:00.200 Yeah, he has to contact his PCP immediately. But like, 503 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:03.440 I didn't get that from I mean, I didn't really 504 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:05.599 look at deep not out of To be clear, this 505 00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:07.920 is not gory. It's not realistic looking, like it's not 506 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:09.720 it's not scary, it's. 507 00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:12.119 So unrealistic looking that I swear to god, David looks 508 00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:15.279 alive until the moment he like he falls limp. 509 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.359 He's like, oh yeah, yeah. But I didn't get that 510 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:22.559 so much from Philip, who is who looks almost horrified 511 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:25.839 while he's doing it, like he can't. 512 00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:31.039 If you don't look horrified, are you even doing it right? 513 00:24:31.319 --> 00:24:32.799 Why else do you keep the lights out? 514 00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:38.160 If you don't look deeply ashamed, then what are we 515 00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:38.920 even doing here? 516 00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:41.440 Oh that's really interesting. I'm going to think about that 517 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:43.359 as we as we chatt. 518 00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:46.480 I mean, there are others, for sure, but I get 519 00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:50.000 there's something about this opening tableau that just screams sure 520 00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:53.359 eroticism in a way that it's not supposed to be, 521 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:55.799 like like you know, like an old painting of a 522 00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:59.200 fucking like saint being like torture. You always have this 523 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:01.400 look of face on their face like they're coming yeah, 524 00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:03.799 and it's like the ecstasy of Saint Aloysius or. 525 00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:07.000 Whatever it's it's it's uh, it's Margaret White and Carrie one. 526 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:09.799 Hundred and so it has that. And so I got that, 527 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:10.440 like kind of. 528 00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:14.039 David came for a petite more and he got a big, more, deeply. 529 00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:16.200 Catholic take on all of this nonsense. 530 00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:18.319 Gotcha, gotcha. 531 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:24.319 In the immediate aftermath of the murder murder, a division 532 00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:28.359 between the two immediately shows Brandon is exhilarated. He lights 533 00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:29.519 up a cigarette again. 534 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:35.039 I mean again, I one on Brandon, brash. 535 00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:37.680 Brandon, he lights a cigarette. He's like, oh, I've never 536 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:41.480 felt so Alie. Yeah, Philip is anxious. He's like, can 537 00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:43.400 can can we stay hidden in the dark for a 538 00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:45.799 few more minutes because Brandon wants to open the windows 539 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:48.480 right away, and Brandon gives him a moment, and then 540 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:51.880 he opens the penthouse curtains, letting the sunshine in this 541 00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:52.920 set is stunning. 542 00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:55.519 It's not real. I understand, it's not even filmed in 543 00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:58.000 New York now till my brain just went, oh, I 544 00:25:58.039 --> 00:25:58.880 want that apartment. 545 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:02.319 There's such a painted backdrop. Because the clouds don't move 546 00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:03.119 the entire. 547 00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:05.279 Time, the clouds that move, the buildings are not where 548 00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:07.559 they're supposed to be. The Empire State Building is not 549 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:12.079 in the right place, and I'm like, I don't care. 550 00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:14.880 Brandon goes on to talk about how they should make 551 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:17.319 the glass that David took his last drink from a 552 00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:20.240 museum piece. I guess if you're going to commit a murder, 553 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:21.359 be excited about it. 554 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:23.519 I didn't think I could nut again this quickly, But 555 00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:25.559 here I am nutting in my pants. 556 00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:31.640 Two nut boys. I'm gonna invent newgates Lang today, nut 557 00:26:31.640 --> 00:26:34.599 boys works. Two nut boys. These two, these two nut boys, 558 00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:40.279 these Macadamias are out here committing murders. But like, you know, 559 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:42.720 it would be insulting if you murdered me and weren't 560 00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:46.680 and weren't like this, This is the last soda Erica drank. 561 00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:49.799 Yeah, I bet I better not fucking be an incidental murder. 562 00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:54.960 Yeah, okay, this is Paul's last toothpick. You can still 563 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:57.519 see the food he picked out of his teeth with it. 564 00:26:57.799 --> 00:27:00.720 There's a great line here where where He's like, this 565 00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:02.559 is his last whiskey glass, and Brandon's like it was 566 00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:05.039 out of character for Javid to drink whiskey. It's almost 567 00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:07.160 as if he knew, and then Philip just chimes in 568 00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:09.039 with was also out of character for him to be 569 00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:12.000 murdered too. Best line in the movie. 570 00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:13.279 Philip's a real Debbie Downer. 571 00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:15.920 The best line in the movie is wasted in the 572 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:20.759 first minute. It's excellent. Yeah, he really has a you mind. 573 00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:22.319 I'm trying to enjoy my murder here. 574 00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:27.440 So Philip can basically only stare at the makeshift coffin 575 00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:29.599 in the center of their room. He laments that the 576 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:31.839 lock on the chest doesn't work. He wishes they had 577 00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:36.880 chosen a different victim. Okay, so these performances are big. Yeah, 578 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:40.160 I don't think they're bad. I think they're big. I 579 00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:43.000 prefer the Philip performance because I think he kind of 580 00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:48.839 like finds a slightly different mode the branded performance. John 581 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:53.480 Doll is playing so evil. It is doctor Doom at 582 00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:57.480 all time. He is ready to like Monola is Magneto 583 00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:01.720 like like it is, it's Miranda Priestley. It is comic 584 00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:05.680 book super villain level of evil. He's so happy. And 585 00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:08.640 John Dahl has resting villain face like he just has. 586 00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.680 He has those high arched yeah, and he looks the 587 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:15.640 part and he is so delighted in himself. Yeah, it's fun. 588 00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:17.960 I think before we started, I knew you hadn't seen 589 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:20.920 the movie before, so I was like, Farley Granger Warning 590 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:23.880 gives a terrible performance. And then I watched it again 591 00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:26.880 this week. I watched this movie recently. I probably watched 592 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:28.960 it maybe six eight months ago or something like that, 593 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:32.079 and I just remembered Farley Granger not being good in it, 594 00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:34.440 And then I watched it again, like yesterday for this 595 00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:38.480 and I was like, I'm wrong. He's jarringly over the 596 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:40.359 top in the first five minutes of the movie. But 597 00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:43.079 then I feel like he finds a rhythm because I 598 00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:45.599 think as a consequence of the style in which it's filmed, 599 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:48.880 it's filmed in order, and so I think he settles 600 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:51.079 into the performance. It's almost like it really is a 601 00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:54.680 theatrical performance they're giving, and so he's pitched it like 602 00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:57.079 the cheap seats for the first minutes of the movie, 603 00:28:57.359 --> 00:28:59.480 and then he pulls it back. I don't know. I'm 604 00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:01.799 not a hundred percent on John Dahl, but I know 605 00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:05.000 Farley Granger came from theater. Yeah, so it was is 606 00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:07.000 shocking because he's so beautiful. I'm like, you have a 607 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:07.680 face for movies. 608 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:09.279 Yeah, what are you doing? He's gorgeous? 609 00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:12.359 Are you wasting your time in the theater? But I 610 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:14.839 agree with you. I think he gives an excellent performance. 611 00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:18.559 I remembered it wrong. I remembered it as like terrible, 612 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:20.480 and I'm like, no, it's actually quite good. 613 00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:22.880 Yeah, all right, So Philip laments he wishes they had 614 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.400 chosen different victim, and Brandon sneers, and Phillip says, maybe 615 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.200 it should have been you, Brandon, and the look on 616 00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:33.599 Brandon's face it makes him back off this position immediately. 617 00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:38.519 He stammers an apology. He protests that he was always 618 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:41.839 scared of Brandon, even when they first met in prep school, 619 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:44.160 and he asks if he can have a drink. He 620 00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:47.440 asks permission to have a drink from Brandon, and Brandon says, 621 00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:50.720 by all means this is an occasion it calls for champagne. 622 00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:53.400 Wit way. This is their shared apartment. Yeah, it makes 623 00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:55.160 it very clear from the beginning these two are quote 624 00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:56.599 unquote their roommates, Paul. 625 00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:58.839 Their roommates, their roommates. They are roomies. 626 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:02.839 There are roomies the one bedroom apartment. But like it's 627 00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:05.039 so in his own apartment. He's like, may I have 628 00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:05.920 a cocktail please? 629 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:09.000 Yeah. 630 00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:11.160 The two of them head into the kitchen to retrieve 631 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:14.000 a bottle, and the camera follows them. I love the 632 00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:16.920 camera work in this. Its like you can they don't 633 00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:19.160 have steady cams back then. You can literally see it 634 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:20.960 bounce a little bit as the camera guy has to 635 00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:24.359 like move it across the track. Brandon wax is on 636 00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:26.799 about he always wished for a more artistic talent, the 637 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.640 way the way Philip has later Philip is a great 638 00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:33.960 classical pianist. Right, he's a real pianist. I knew that 639 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:36.319 would make you laugh. I knew it. It's so dumb, 640 00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:40.079 It's so dumb. Is that another euphemism for gay? 641 00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.319 Is there a real pianist. 642 00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:47.640 A classical pianist, Yeah, classical classical pianist. If you're by 643 00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:48.960 you're a jazz pianist. 644 00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:52.599 Which way it's gonna go? Aventure? 645 00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:54.240 It uses all of the notes. 646 00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:57.799 Yes, right at the same time. So he says, if 647 00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:07.759 you're straight, vagina. 648 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:14.720 If you're straight, you're a kazoo. You just have one note. 649 00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:15.359 Not so. 650 00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:18.279 Brandon's like, I wish I'd always had a more artistic talent. 651 00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:20.640 But maybe this is it. Maybe my my talent for 652 00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:23.519 killing is just as satisfying as a talent for creating. 653 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:26.119 It's basically the same thing. It's like I gave birth 654 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:27.440 to David, but in reverse. 655 00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:36.960 Okay, surege Anne spinning. Brandon is a sociopath and so entertaining, 656 00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.279 a completely unrepentant sociopath in every way. 657 00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:45.000 In every way, and so bad at it. That's that's 658 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.599 why it's funny. He would be terrifying if he was 659 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.759 good at it, if he was, but he's bad at it. 660 00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:53.599 I was, we were talking. I was like, if they 661 00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:57.720 pitched these performances down, the movie could get really scared. 662 00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:01.559 What happens in this movie is horror, Like, like, ye, 663 00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:03.319 what the plans? 664 00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:05.200 They actually do an. 665 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:10.039 Act absolutely stomach churningly horrifying. And I don't know if 666 00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:12.160 this is maybe a consequence of the style or the 667 00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:15.119 performances or certain choices being made. If they took these 668 00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:18.519 down and made these two good at crime and good 669 00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:20.640 at covering this up, they would be two of the 670 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:23.240 most terrifying characters ever put on screen. Yeah. 671 00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:25.319 I would have loved to have seen Hitchcock do a 672 00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:27.680 second version of this without the gimmick of the one 673 00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.559 shot where he actually uses cuts and he gets in 674 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:33.319 close ups and like, really he does use close ups here, 675 00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:37.079 but like using all your usual tricks of the trade, 676 00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.119 like not hamstringing himself with this. Again, I like that 677 00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:41.839 it's filmed this way, but I think you're right I 678 00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.960 think it's a different movie if they're given an opportunity 679 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:46.119 to play small. 680 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:48.559 And to be good, to be good at crime. Yeah, 681 00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:51.079 but like, I wouldn't be against a remake of this 682 00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.640 movie with a really strong different take on it. To 683 00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:55.480 make these two. 684 00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:00.200 Good lesbians, I want lesbian Oh my god, and. 685 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:02.759 Stuart and Sarah Paulson. 686 00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:06.680 Oh no, Sarah Paulson has to play the Jimmy Stewart part. 687 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:07.640 Oh, that's right. 688 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:09.720 She would be she would be amazing in the Jimmy 689 00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:10.240 Stewart part. 690 00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:11.680 Yeah. Yeah, you're right, you're right. 691 00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:16.319 Ariana Debo's perfect. And Kristin Stewart uh huh. It's the 692 00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:18.200 problem with the David role as there's no you don't 693 00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:20.039 get a line. But I think you could have really 694 00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:21.200 fun stunt casting here. 695 00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:22.640 Yeah they kill Drew Barrymore. 696 00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:27.440 Yeah, I think you could you get really fun stunt 697 00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:29.279 casting here. They killed Rene. 698 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.079 Rap Yeah, something like that. 699 00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:35.839 An all lesbian production, yeah, of rope, Please God make 700 00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:38.119 this happen. Please. I don't ask for much. 701 00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:38.759 I don't. 702 00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:41.400 I really don't, I really don't. But but I want 703 00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:44.680 an all female just a gender swapped rope, yes, but 704 00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:48.000 also actually queer actresses in every role. 705 00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:50.319 Give it to Luca Guadanino or something like or give 706 00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.559 it to Brian fall Yes, yeah, it would be the 707 00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:55.119 most fucked up thing you ever saw. 708 00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:59.079 Give it. Give it to Lisa Chilladenko. Sure, get her, 709 00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:02.079 get her filthy omits on this. I want I want 710 00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:02.519 to see it. 711 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:03.759 I want to see it. 712 00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:06.759 You know what, I'm breaking my rule. If Kate Blanchette 713 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:07.799 wants to be in it, she's allowed. 714 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:09.719 Kate Blanchett is always allowed to be in it. 715 00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:11.679 Always a looved she is an honorary lesbian. 716 00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:15.480 Yeah, so we're about to hit Erica. My favorite gay implication, 717 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.679 homosexual implication of the movie. They get the champagne bottle 718 00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:21.880 and they're just standing and because of the way it's 719 00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:24.239 shot and it's it's a tight frame, all of these 720 00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:26.039 conversations that we're going to describe for the rest of 721 00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:27.559 the movie. The people are going to be so close 722 00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.280 to each other but they're talking, but they're they're standing 723 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.519 like shoulder to shoulder, and in between them is this 724 00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:36.400 champagne bottle. And Brandon John Doll is just like fondling 725 00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:42.199 this and down. I mean he's quote unquote trying to 726 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:45.440 open it. I've never seen anything look less likely to 727 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:48.599 open a champagne bottle. He's he's jerking off that champagne. 728 00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:50.960 At one point, Farley Grainger grabs it from it. It's like, 729 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:54.960 I'll open this, wasting everyone's time. No, you are one 730 00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:58.360 hundred percent right, he is. So he's so aroused. Hitchcock 731 00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:02.639 was like, how far we go with like the implications 732 00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:05.480 and the like insinuations before I have to pull it 733 00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:07.519 back where I'm like, well, now we're gonna get shut down. 734 00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:07.920 Yeah. 735 00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:12.559 So he fondles the champagne and celebrates the murder. They've 736 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.119 just killed David for the sake of danger and killing, 737 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:18.800 and it came off perfectly. Sure did, Bob, Sure did. 738 00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:20.599 I don't know if you ever heard that saying about 739 00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:24.079 putting the cart before the horse. Uh huh yeah, counting 740 00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:26.280 your chickens prior to them breaking out of their shells, 741 00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:27.960 all that stuff. 742 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:31.519 All that, Oh that, all that is happening. Brandon asks 743 00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:34.440 Philip if he's still frightened, and Philip says no. Then 744 00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:40.840 the champagne pops release and they toast, and Brandon says 745 00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:44.280 to David, of course, with a gleeful smile on his face, 746 00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:47.679 I'm really into this movie. I like these evil queers. 747 00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:52.519 Me too, Philip, And this is a real twist. Philip asks, 748 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:54.199 do you think the party is a mistake? 749 00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:54.480 Now? 750 00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:57.800 I think they might be straight. This might be, he 751 00:35:57.880 --> 00:35:59.440 might be. He's wait, you don't want to have a party. 752 00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:01.599 Hang on, hang on, there's a theme and everything. 753 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:04.360 We have a we have we built the whole day 754 00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:08.760 around it. A Brandon assures Philip that having it is 755 00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:11.960 like the signature of the artist, but he does lament 756 00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.679 how boring the party guests are. But they had to 757 00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:17.360 invite the kent Ley's. They are, after all, David's mother 758 00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:19.480 and father, and David is the guest of honor. 759 00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:21.920 Amazing, right, that line is so chilling. 760 00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:24.840 Yeah, you're like, what the fuck? Plus they invited Janet, 761 00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:27.960 who has set her sights on marrying David, and Brandon 762 00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:30.199 can barely contain his laughter when he comments that he 763 00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:36.960 doesn't think she's gonna succeed in getting him. Now, I'm 764 00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.400 doing my Prince John laugh from animated Robin Hood. You 765 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:40.880 won't get this, but the listeners will. 766 00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:45.800 Ah ah, I am still amused, thank you. 767 00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:48.639 And then he has an idea he hasn't. He's like, 768 00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:51.760 oh my god, just got better. I'm gonna I'm gonna 769 00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:52.599 nut again. 770 00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.320 I'm gonna cash you all over this place. 771 00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.519 He tells Philip to take the other candlog u and 772 00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:03.079 follow him. That may be the gayest sentence I've ever 773 00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:07.519 said in my life. Take the other candelabra and follow me. 774 00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:14.920 Oh my god, you're absolutely right. 775 00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:17.360 Everyone grab the candelabra. 776 00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:25.800 I don't. I don't think even ever said that these 777 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:30.440 men are gayer than Liberaci. Brandon leeds Philip back to 778 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:37.079 the main room, and they set the two candelabras on 779 00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:41.239 the wood chest that contains David's corpse on the west elm, 780 00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:47.159 on the anthropology off oak chest that contains their best 781 00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:50.639 friend slash slaves corpse. This is my canon. 782 00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:56.039 David was their slave, gotcha sex slaves save to be clear, consensually. 783 00:37:56.480 --> 00:38:00.079 Until then it went, it went. How how long do 784 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.519 you think David was like? Okay, when they were like, 785 00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:04.079 we're just gonna put this rope around your neck. 786 00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:06.079 Okay, Well, I'm gonna tell you Erica, it was a 787 00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:09.079 long time because he screams and then he's dead in 788 00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:10.440 the space of five seconds. 789 00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:10.800 Yeah. 790 00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:12.760 They put on gloves and he's like, this is gonna 791 00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:13.159 be fun. 792 00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:16.639 This is gonna be awesome. This The marks all over 793 00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:18.920 my body for me smacking me are gonna be so 794 00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:20.800 much better with Swede. 795 00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:24.840 If you think about it, truly, this man, sorry what 796 00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:25.599 you said. 797 00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:32.039 Just hit me. Spanking is so underrated these days. 798 00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:35.840 Just just like just hitting himself with a Swede cat 799 00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:39.960 of nine tails, just if you think about it. David 800 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:43.199 walked into this apartment where the blinds were all closed 801 00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:46.599 and these two put gloves on, and he was like, yes, 802 00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:51.519 let's party. He definitely was there for sex. 803 00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:55.440 Yeah, honestly, you're selling me on it. You are selling 804 00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:56.320 me on it for. 805 00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:01.840 So okay, Brandon is now is sexually aroused by another idea. 806 00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:03.480 He's like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, 807 00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:07.719 Phil up, let's serve dinner on the chest with the 808 00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:12.480 corpse on it. Philip is like that's gross, but he's like, 809 00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:14.880 at least it will reduce the likelihood of someone opening 810 00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:17.400 the chest during the party, being like what's in here, 811 00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:20.159 and like wa, He's like, fine, we'll put the fucking 812 00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:23.119 dinner on the chest, even though that is the grossest 813 00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:28.280 thing ever. And Brandon's like, I'm coming, shut the fuck up, wait, 814 00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:31.320 give you a second. Okay, Yeah, the two hurry and move 815 00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:32.280 things into the living room. 816 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:34.119 I'm about to blow the back out of these pants. 817 00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:43.480 I'm about to almond joy all over this place. I'm 818 00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.199 gonna stick with this nut name until please do. 819 00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:47.400 Yeah. 820 00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:49.360 Okay, So they're like, we have to hurry before missus 821 00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.320 Wilson gets back right now, we're hearing about a lady, 822 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:56.079 Missus Wilson. Brandon says, they'll layout the books, which was 823 00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:59.199 the excuse they had for inviting mister Kentley over anyway, 824 00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:02.599 dog David's father a bunch of antique books. They are 825 00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:04.159 in their house. Not gay man at all, you know, 826 00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:06.480 not gay at all, not gay at all, just but 827 00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:09.119 just two guys living together, two bachelors or. 828 00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:10.960 A collection of first editions. 829 00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:12.239 With the collection of antique books. 830 00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:17.440 And that's what's behind the candelabra set of antique fucking books. 831 00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:20.119 Haha. So they put the books on the dining table 832 00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:21.239 and the food on the chest. 833 00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.880 Yep, the bell rings. Brandon goes to answer it while 834 00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:27.119 Philip gathers the books, and while gathering them, he sees 835 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:31.360 the murder weapon, the titular rope is hanging out of 836 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:35.280 the chests. This is the first rate. You're like, Okay, 837 00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.360 you didn't think this through. Why Why is the murder 838 00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:39.519 weapon still with the corpse? 839 00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:41.320 Yeah, like around his neck. 840 00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:44.920 The number one you would think, where's the murder weapon? 841 00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:48.719 That's like problem Numero uno. After you murdered someone, how 842 00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:50.920 did we do it? Let's figure out how to clean. 843 00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:52.480 That up, how to get rid of that murder weapon. 844 00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:54.119 Yeah. I don't know if you ever played the game 845 00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:56.519 Clue or seen the movie Erica I am, but the 846 00:40:56.599 --> 00:40:58.840 murder weapons play an enormous role. 847 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.519 So it's missus Wilson in the kitchen with a candilabra. 848 00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:08.880 Candelabra gay clue one of the the murder movie a kindleabra. 849 00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:13.760 I think actually in regular clue, that's a candlestick. It's oh, 850 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:16.639 let's gay understood. Yeah, gay clue would have a kind 851 00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:18.960 of labra. The wrench would be. 852 00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.320 The lead pipe is a dildo. The wrench is a 853 00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.599 butt plug. Uh huh uh huh right. I don't know 854 00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:26.519 why people reduce gay people to the sex they have. 855 00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:30.079 I don't know. So it's so like basic. 856 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.320 I think the wrench is a Stanley cup, the pistol 857 00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:35.679 is a thoroughgun. 858 00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:38.039 And the rope is a golden girl's throw. 859 00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.960 The rope is a boa used once back in Pee 860 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:49.119 Town during that party. 861 00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:50.679 Will do lesbian clue later. 862 00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.199 The lesbian clue is still a lead pipe and a wrench. 863 00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:55.400 That's true, that's true. 864 00:41:55.519 --> 00:42:01.159 The rope is a tool belt, the gun is a dildo. 865 00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:02.320 That's right. Yeah, that's right. 866 00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:03.400 It all still kind of trucks. 867 00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:06.320 It works, it works, yeah, okay. So Philip sees the 868 00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:09.199 rope hanging out of the of the cassone and he 869 00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:11.360 starts to panic. He is holding on by a thread. 870 00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:14.199 Brandon stalks over. He yanks the rope out of the 871 00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:16.360 chest and he tells Philip to get a hold of himself. 872 00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:20.320 He reminds Philip that they agreed the only crime either 873 00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:23.039 of them could commit would be making a mistake, and 874 00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:26.000 weakness is a mistake. And Philip asks, is that because 875 00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:29.679 it's human? And Brandon snaps back, no, because it's ordinary. 876 00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:34.280 I love that exchange. Excellent, That like shows you everything. 877 00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:39.559 Brandon genuinely believes he is a superior being. Uh huh, 878 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:43.239 and Philip is so enthrall of him that he just 879 00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:46.760 wants to live up to this person who has enraptured him. 880 00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:49.199 Yeah, yeah, I bet you. Ten minutes before the murder, 881 00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:50.360 Philip was all in. 882 00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:50.719 Yeah. 883 00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:52.960 Philip was like, this is great. We are better than everyone. 884 00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:56.639 We're smarter, yeah, we're you know, we were just fundamentally 885 00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:59.239 better than our idiot friends. And then the minute it 886 00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.719 was over, he was like, well, that didn't feel as 887 00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:03.800 good as I thought it would. Frankly, title of My 888 00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:09.880 Sex Safe. Missus Wilson played by Edith Evanson, the men's housekeeper. 889 00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:13.039 Very cool housekeeper, it's. 890 00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:15.800 So chill cool. She knows they're living together, and she 891 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.239 must be aware of the bedroom situation. Fine, yeah, they 892 00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:21.639 because they later referred to it, the phone is in 893 00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:22.320 the bedroom. 894 00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:24.519 Really, I did not. 895 00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:27.119 Catch that my bedroom. It's not in Phillip's bedroom. It's 896 00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:29.079 in the bedroom the bedroom. 897 00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:33.119 Interesting. So Missus Wilson enters. She's completed an errand they 898 00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:35.760 sent her off on the errand was to buy pet. 899 00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.599 She she keeps calling Patty, which I'm I'm assuming is 900 00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:40.599 just how they said it back then. 901 00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:43.760 Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like, I went to that 902 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:47.039 good Jewish bakery downtown, Jewish jelly downtown to get it right. 903 00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:49.679 She is none too pleased to see that her carefully 904 00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.239 laid table has been moved to an antique chest in 905 00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:54.920 the living room. She says, it now looks just downright peculiar. 906 00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:59.199 A buffet in the living room, a buffet growth gross. 907 00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.639 Pete, pete, and the certainly not. 908 00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:04.239 Brandon is basically mister Burns at this point, right, he 909 00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:06.840 is like rubbing his hands together and being like, it 910 00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:12.480 looks like a ceremonial altar for I don't know, sacrificial feasts, 911 00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:17.719 and Missus Wilson's like, I guess, okay. She goes off 912 00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.159 to complete her pre party tasks while Brandon takes the 913 00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:23.239 murder weapon, the rope, and stores it in the kitchen drawer. 914 00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:24.639 This is my favorite shot in the movie. 915 00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:25.320 Incredible shot. 916 00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:28.559 It is so cool. So the camera follows Brandon as 917 00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:30.920 he walks into the kitchen. The kitchen has a swinging door. 918 00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:33.639 He goes into the kitchen and he's talking to Missus 919 00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:36.960 Wilson the whole time. The door's kind of closed, and 920 00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.719 then it swings open. Only the audience can see it, 921 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.880 and we see Brandon just like dropping the rope into 922 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.639 a kitchen drawer and closing the drawer. So he's not 923 00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:48.360 like he was holding the rope in front of Missus Wilson. 924 00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:51.800 He had it in his pocket, and so you know this, 925 00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:53.800 this slight crisis has been now been averted. 926 00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:56.679 Oh, he's not in his pocket. He's swinging around. Well, 927 00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:57.480 he's talking to her. 928 00:44:57.480 --> 00:44:59.960 You're absolutely right, Yeah, he is. Of course, why would 929 00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.159 hid it? He doesn't have to hide it. He's committed 930 00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:03.679 the perfect crime, Paul. 931 00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:07.440 Of course. Missus Wilson is surprised that they're putting out 932 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:11.000 the champagne. After all, they only have champagne at mister 933 00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:14.400 Cadell's at very high occasions. So that this a little 934 00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:16.840 more backstory. She used to work for a man named 935 00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:20.239 mister Cadell, and now she works for Brandon and Philip. Right, 936 00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.960 Brandon says that mister Cadell is actually joining them that evening, 937 00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:28.039 and Missus Wilson, oh, she is excited. She loves mister Cadell. 938 00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:29.719 Everyone loves mister Cadell. He's a hoot. 939 00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:33.280 He's a hoot. Philip, on the other hand, is not pleased. 940 00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:36.400 The two men carry plates into the living room, and 941 00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:40.880 Philip chides Brandon for inviting Rupert Cadell, the person most 942 00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:45.159 likely to suspect them, and brand responds that actually Rupert 943 00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:47.159 is the person most likely to see the events of 944 00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:50.159 the day from their perspective. He even thought of inviting 945 00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:53.000 Rupert on their little adventure, but eventually concluded that he 946 00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:56.000 didn't have the courage to carry it through like they did. 947 00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:57.119 Interesting. 948 00:45:57.280 --> 00:45:59.840 Interesting, who is this Rupert? Who is this Rupert Cadell? 949 00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:05.440 The bell rings and Brandon in tones? Now the fun begins. 950 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:08.679 Okay, if I got murdered and someone later was like, 951 00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:10.440 now the fun, he wasn't fun. 952 00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:11.599 You didn have fun before? 953 00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:12.400 Fuck you? 954 00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:13.679 We're having fun now, aren't we. 955 00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:15.079 Oh, I'm gonna haunt your ass. 956 00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:20.519 First to arrive is Kenneth Lawrence, played by aptly named 957 00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:21.280 Douglas Dick. 958 00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:24.920 There's a few shots in this where I know it's 959 00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:28.079 it's not the actor. It's it's like the technicolor, the hair, 960 00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:30.599 the hair, and like his skin tone. I think it 961 00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:32.280 happens when he's in shadow. I don't know if he 962 00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:34.079 has like maybe he has like a really olive skin 963 00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:36.480 tone or something, but he almost looks. 964 00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:38.920 Gold yes gray or gray. 965 00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:41.480 Yeah. Yeah, like like the skin tone is wrong, and 966 00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:43.320 it's not all the time. There are times where he 967 00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:46.599 just looks like a normal blonde boy. Yeah, it's totally fine, 968 00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:49.119 but sometimes the color just goes off and also. 969 00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:52.440 The hair turns like orange in certain lighting is not 970 00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:55.679 good for poor Douglas Dick this film. I mean, I 971 00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:57.880 get it, like they had to light everyone right, It's 972 00:46:57.880 --> 00:46:59.920 not like they had specific lighting to make certain skin 973 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.440 tones and like certain air colors look good. And he 974 00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:05.079 is the only like blonde ginger guy in the whole. 975 00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:06.480 Movie, and he's paying the price. 976 00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:12.320 So Kenneth is an old classmate of theirs. He's also 977 00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:15.119 surprised at the champagne and asks if someone is celebrating 978 00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:19.760 a birthday, and Brandon says, it's almost just the opposite. Excellent. 979 00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:24.119 He covers it by saying, fill up. The pianist is 980 00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:26.440 headed upstate for a while to rehearse in peace for 981 00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:28.760 a big concert he has coming up. So it's a 982 00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.360 going away party that we're having today for Philip. Yeah, 983 00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:34.440 that's why hence the champagne and the revelry. Kenneth asks 984 00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.119 who else is coming, and Brandon liss off David Kentley, 985 00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.480 his parents, and Janet Walker. 986 00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:42.760 And he practically looks at him and he's like, do 987 00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:48.159 you have your response to that? But Janet Walker, this 988 00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:50.880 is a messy bit. This is the apotheosis of a 989 00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:53.599 messy bitch who loves drama. It is not enough for 990 00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:57.639 him to murder somebody and then like gleefully have people eat. 991 00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.320 Like his parents eat off the and. 992 00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:04.079 He has to stir the pot to entertain himself additionally 993 00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:04.800 on top of that. 994 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:09.039 Yeah, So Kenneth gets very sober, very quickly, and Brandon's like, 995 00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:11.920 what's wrong, Kenneth, don't you I thought you'd be excited 996 00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:12.679 to see Janet. 997 00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.440 He strokes his chin, and Kenneth is like, yeah. 998 00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.360 Did you know that Janet and I are in fact 999 00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:20.280 broken up, We're no longer seeing each other, and and that, 1000 00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:23.119 in fact she is now seeing David the other person 1001 00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:27.239 coming to this party. And Brandon is like, WHOA, I 1002 00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:30.960 had no idea, but I have an odd feeling your 1003 00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:33.960 chances are going to improve with Janet after tonight. 1004 00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.719 Can't help him, cannot help him, sir. If he's not 1005 00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:39.519 stepping on a rake. He takes a rake, he puts 1006 00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:42.840 it down, he steps on it, the worst criminal. But 1007 00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:45.360 as we're talking about it, it does kind of make 1008 00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:49.000 sense because arrogance is his is his fatal hill. Heels 1009 00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:51.239 right like because he actually some of the things he 1010 00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:53.800 says is right. He's like when Philip is freaking out 1011 00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:55.639 about the rope. He's like, why would we worry about 1012 00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:57.000 the rope. It's just a piece of rope. It's a 1013 00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:59.000 perfectly normal thing to have in the house. It's not 1014 00:48:59.039 --> 00:48:59.880 like a gun. 1015 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:03.440 Yeah, it wasn't fastens into a noose. By the way, 1016 00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:04.639 It's just a piece of rope. 1017 00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.719 It's just a piece of rope. So it he's some 1018 00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:10.039 of his instincts aren't bad, but he can't stop bragging 1019 00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:13.159 about what he did. He wants people to know that 1020 00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:15.960 he's pulling it off. And that's like the fatal flaw. Anyway. 1021 00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:17.400 It's like when you walk into a party with a 1022 00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:19.599 terrible outfit. No one says anything you like, but I'm 1023 00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:20.239 pulling it off. 1024 00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:20.639 Look. 1025 00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:24.239 So anyway, Oh, this this thing, this whole thing. I 1026 00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:27.920 got it at a consignment shop. I think it used 1027 00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:33.239 to belong to Jackie, Oh, Jackie O'Leary. 1028 00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:37.599 Perhaps perhaps if you're lucky. All right, So, next to 1029 00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:41.719 arrive is Janet Walker played by Joan Chandler. Joan Chandler 1030 00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:45.239 is in the dress. The color of the dress stunning 1031 00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:50.840 on her maroon claret. It has big shoulder ruffles, which 1032 00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:51.920 I actually will allow. 1033 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:53.280 It's nineteen forty eight. 1034 00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:55.920 Yeah, it's totally fine. I have to draw the line 1035 00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:58.119 at the elbow ruffles. It's too much. 1036 00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.039 It's a lot of ruffles. Ruffle. She is also it 1037 00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:05.119 is like a high neck tight dress. Like poor woman 1038 00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:07.400 probably was sweating balls off in this. 1039 00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:08.239 Absolutely. 1040 00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:11.639 This is a famous costume designer. His name is Adrian. 1041 00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:17.119 He specifically made like glamorous gowns for films for leading actresses. 1042 00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:18.000 That was his whole thing. 1043 00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:19.239 What a fantastic job. 1044 00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:22.039 I know. He yeah, like Edith Head, but a guy 1045 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:25.760 and specifically just like glamorous gowns. It's like, okay, kid, 1046 00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:27.360 he didn't do all the costumes. 1047 00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:30.519 Yeah. So this miss Chandler's gown. I saw that credit. 1048 00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:34.400 Yeah yeah, okay. So she comes in. She's thrilled to 1049 00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.639 meet her favorite gaze until she spots Kenneth and her 1050 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:41.199 face drops. The two exes attempt to make small talk 1051 00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:44.320 until Janet has a chance to pull Brandon into the 1052 00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:46.400 foyer and she snaps at him that his sense of 1053 00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:49.639 humor is malicious. He knew very well that she was 1054 00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.000 no longer dating Kenneth and is now dating his best 1055 00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:57.119 friend David, and Brandon just smiles that evil devil grin 1056 00:50:57.159 --> 00:50:59.039 and he says, well, it's hard to keep up with 1057 00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:01.559 your romances now, Eric, I don't know if you know this, 1058 00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:04.519 but that is how you say your being a whore 1059 00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.239 is not my problem, and frankly, it's exhausting. In nineteen 1060 00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:11.519 forty eight, your horrors ways are your problem. 1061 00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:14.400 Yeah, that's yeah. You're being a whore is simply not 1062 00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:17.159 my concern. Yeah, frankly, yeah. 1063 00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:19.360 He asks her why she dumped Kenneth, and she said 1064 00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:23.039 David was nicer and Brandon sneers he certainly was richer, 1065 00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:25.559 Which is how you say you being a cheap whore 1066 00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:29.239 is exhausting and not my problem. In nineteen forty eight, did. 1067 00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:31.280 You catch in this scene that these two used to 1068 00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:32.199 date for a minute? 1069 00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:32.960 Yep, for a minute. 1070 00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:34.599 For a minute. She's like, He's like, well, how can 1071 00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:38.320 I recall you threw you threw me over for Kenneth, 1072 00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:40.639 and then Kenneth over for David, who can keep tracked. 1073 00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:43.039 And then she keeps calling everyone in this film chum. 1074 00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:45.800 She's like, Hi, chum, I chum this bitch. 1075 00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:46.119 Nos. 1076 00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:49.679 Yeah, she's just out here like bearding for the bearding 1077 00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:50.480 for the whole crew. 1078 00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:52.960 She is an asexual woman who just wants to marry 1079 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:54.679 a rich gay man who will never bother her, So 1080 00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:55.280 we'll let. 1081 00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:57.639 Her live in her beautiful designer addresses forever. 1082 00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:02.199 Yeah, that's fine. Uh so, Janet says, that's a new 1083 00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:05.760 low chum even for you, and she stalks back into 1084 00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:06.360 the living room. 1085 00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:09.480 Meanwhile, back in the living room, the four discuss Rupert Cadell. 1086 00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:12.840 They're housemaster from prep school who is now a publisher. 1087 00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:15.639 He's a publisher of philosophy. Oh, small print, big words, 1088 00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:18.960 no sales, excellent, much. 1089 00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:22.760 Is made over. I don't know Brandon's relationship to Rupert 1090 00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:26.320 at this point, and how much in Rupert's thrall Brandon 1091 00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:30.800 was while in school, so clearly in love. Yeah with 1092 00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:34.039 this Rupert Jenneral, it's older, brilliant man. 1093 00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:36.519 And this is a this is this is when I'm like, okay, 1094 00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:39.079 that's the third. There's there's a line in here that 1095 00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:41.480 no gay man is going to write unintentionally where they 1096 00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:45.760 say he would spend all night at his master's feet. Yes, yes, yeah, 1097 00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:48.960 And I'm like, okay, yes, yes, yes, there's not a 1098 00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:51.480 gay man in the world who would write that. There 1099 00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:53.519 are gay priests who would write that and know exactly 1100 00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:54.199 what they were writing. 1101 00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:57.679 Yeah, he's submissive. I see it. I see it now too, 1102 00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.800 I see it. So Brandon tells them how talked about 1103 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:03.639 how murder is a crime for most men, and then 1104 00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:07.039 he looks meaningfully at Philip and then Philip finishes the sentence, 1105 00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:11.199 but a privilege for the few. Just like that. Philip's 1106 00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:16.039 like not having it. He's like, stop playing this game somehow. 1107 00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:18.159 Neither Kenneth nor Janet is like, you know what, you 1108 00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:19.960 two are weird? Yeah, we're gonna go. 1109 00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:23.039 There's a vibe, right, this is a weird vibe. There's 1110 00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:25.400 a vibe at this party and I hate it. 1111 00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:27.760 The two of you need to go into the bedroom 1112 00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:29.400 and fuck it out and then come back so you 1113 00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:30.119 can be fun again. 1114 00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:32.199 Yeah, OK, because this is awful. 1115 00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:35.480 Yeah. The buzzer sounds again and Brandon welcomes in mister 1116 00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:39.400 Henry Kentley, who's played by Sir Cedric Hardwick, and Missus 1117 00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:43.840 Anita Atwater played by Constance Collier. It turns out that 1118 00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:46.800 Missus Kentley isn't feeling well, so Kentley brought his sister 1119 00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:49.440 and said, so this is this is David's father and 1120 00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:54.199 his aunt. Yes. They head in, and Missus Atwater immediately 1121 00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:57.719 mistakes Kenneth for David, which causes Philip to squeeze the 1122 00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:00.960 glass he's holding so hard it breaks and cuts his hand. 1123 00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:04.760 Be cool, Philip, Be cool, buddy. 1124 00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:09.480 The two newcomers also get to go to Greek Janet, 1125 00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:13.039 who Missus Atwater excitedly tells about how she's saw on 1126 00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:16.480 Janet's horoscope that a marriage was just around the corner. 1127 00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:19.440 There is a line in the scene where someone, I 1128 00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:21.960 think Brandon or Philip, asks shall I get you some 1129 00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.599 champagne Missus Atwater, and Missus Atwater says, oh, I should 1130 00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:28.239 have done some. Daddy used to have a glass every 1131 00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:29.239 morning at eleven. 1132 00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:35.119 Love, okay, love everything about your life. Lady, lady, teach 1133 00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:37.960 me will I will be at this master's feet forever? 1134 00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:39.039 Yeah, forever and ever. 1135 00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:40.639 She's my favorite character in the movie. 1136 00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:41.199 She's fun. 1137 00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:42.440 She's so much fun. 1138 00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:45.559 She's also playing enormously big for the cheap seats, but 1139 00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:48.159 the character definitely calls for it. Yes, so it kind 1140 00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:50.519 of even though it's big, it feels a little more 1141 00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:51.880 realistic than some of the other stuff. 1142 00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:54.519 Yeah, she's the fun party and she came to have 1143 00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:56.760 parties and to like look the other way while the 1144 00:54:56.800 --> 00:54:59.880 kids smokes cigarettes. You know, what I'm saying. Yeah, she's delightful. 1145 00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:01.880 And I was wondering at first, I'm like, why did 1146 00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.519 they Why did the writer have like the ant and 1147 00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:06.599 not the mother show up? And I realized it's because 1148 00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:09.400 for so long, the aunt is going to be this 1149 00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:13.440 like buoyant character in this even when things get weird, 1150 00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:15.679 and I think a mom would have picked up on 1151 00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:18.840 things a lot faster. I think that's maybe why the 1152 00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:20.760 character was made the aunt instead of the mother. 1153 00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:24.639 And I also think it's it's too it's gruesome already. 1154 00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:27.159 You have to you need some like if it's the 1155 00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:29.960 mother and the father there and like they're getting more 1156 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:31.719 and more worried, and like they also have the father 1157 00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:33.519 be like the voice of reason, like I'm sure he's 1158 00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:36.960 fine the whole time, Like he doesn't ever really dip 1159 00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:39.719 into really worried. So they have the mom off screen 1160 00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:42.960 worrying deeply about where the where their son is, but 1161 00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.320 the father is being like the stoic ones. So it 1162 00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:50.000 allows the movie to float above the the gruesome horror 1163 00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:50.719 of what's going on. 1164 00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:53.480 Yep, absolutely absolutely, And it also it gives you an 1165 00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:57.119 excuse to have this very fun, like effervescent female character 1166 00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:00.800 that's like, oh wait, who's missing? Was how Yah, I've 1167 00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:03.119 cheered for a party. I'm just trying to hit on 1168 00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:04.840 Jimmy Stewart. I don't know what the rest of you 1169 00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:08.440 are doing. Mister Kentley asks if David is already there, 1170 00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:10.920 and Brandon's like, wait, I was expecting him to come 1171 00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:14.119 with you. Mister Kentley responds that David had phoned him 1172 00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:16.719 earlier to say he would meet him here at the party, 1173 00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:20.440 and that his mother wants him to call her. Janet 1174 00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:23.039 decides to phone missus Kentley to let her know that 1175 00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:26.119 David has been detained. Right, so there's a little bit 1176 00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:28.079 of like just table setting here. 1177 00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:30.280 Yes. Yeah. 1178 00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:34.000 Brandon sends her to the bedroom as Paul right here, 1179 00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:36.960 I did not clock that well done the bedroom to 1180 00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:39.559 use the phone, and he pours her a refill and 1181 00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:42.159 sends Kenneth to deliver it. Why don't you go send 1182 00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:44.239 Why don't you go into the bedroom with Janet and 1183 00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:45.280 give her this champagne. 1184 00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:47.719 Yeah, there's a great line here where Kenneth is like, 1185 00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:49.599 I know what you're doing and Brendon's like what am 1186 00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:51.199 I doing? He's like, you want me to take this 1187 00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:53.760 drink into Janet in the bedroom and then you want 1188 00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:56.360 David to walk in, and Brenda says, oh no, that 1189 00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:57.519 would be too much of a shock. 1190 00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:02.920 Funny, Dave Brandon is having the best day of his life. 1191 00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:03.840 Yeah. 1192 00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:07.760 Meanwhile, Missus Atwater talks to Philip about his horoscope and 1193 00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:11.519 he asks about the upcoming concert, his big debut, and 1194 00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:13.639 she says she looks at his hands, and she goes, 1195 00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:17.559 these hands will bring you great fame. She's not wrong, 1196 00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:18.960 She's wrong, not wrong about that. 1197 00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:23.320 Nope. Philippears the potential double meaning and starts to play 1198 00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:25.519 the piano nervously. Right, he just needs to do something 1199 00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:27.679 because why are we doing this? Why are we doing this? 1200 00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.639 Why was this the plan? Right? Just in time for 1201 00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:34.360 Rupert cadell One mister James Stewart to make his entrance 1202 00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:38.119 and to compliment his playing. Rupert makes his way through 1203 00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:40.960 the room. He's greeting everyone and when he comes to Brandon, 1204 00:57:41.159 --> 00:57:44.360 who brings him champagne. We see Brandon nervous for the 1205 00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:47.760 first time. He starts stammering and stuttering through his greeting. 1206 00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:51.199 He starts nervously fondling the champagne bottle again. The way 1207 00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:54.599 he interacts with Rupert is wildly different from the way 1208 00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:58.320 he interacts with everybody else. Yeah, these two absolutely were fucking. 1209 00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:03.239 These are two brazil nuts if I ever. I don't 1210 00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:05.239 know much Paul, but I know two pecans when I 1211 00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:05.599 see one. 1212 00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:07.360 Haha. 1213 00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:12.880 Missus Wilson brings out the final bit of food, and 1214 00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:17.079 dinner is served just on top of the corpse. As 1215 00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:19.760 everyone starts to like get some food, fix a plate, 1216 00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:22.679 find a place to sit, Philip mentions to Janet that 1217 00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:25.639 he doesn't eat chicken, and she wonders why, and he 1218 00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:28.559 insists there's no reason, no reason at all. Janet, stop 1219 00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:32.880 asking such dumb questions. Philip, you have to chill. 1220 00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:33.280 Yeah. 1221 00:58:33.519 --> 00:58:36.800 Ruper comments that he remembers the funny story about Philip 1222 00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.760 and his reason for not eating chicken, and Brandon's like, 1223 00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:42.920 that's right, there is a great story, and then Brandon 1224 00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:45.440 starts to relate a story about how once Philip was 1225 00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:48.519 trying to, you know, strangle a chicken for dinner like 1226 00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:52.920 a normal person, and then like Lazarus, the chicken rose 1227 00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:53.440 from that. 1228 00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:59.679 That's a lie. They're so chill, they're keeping their cool perfectly. 1229 00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:02.119 No one in the rest of the party thought, even 1230 00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:04.719 though the story is weird, and macabre. Everyone was going 1231 00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:07.280 with it, yeah, even smiling, and then Philip was like, 1232 00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:08.920 shop lying about me. 1233 00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:12.239 Monster. To be clear, in this story, they are on 1234 00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:14.639 like a farm with chickens for dinner. He's not just 1235 00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:16.800 you know, running out, running out with a live chicken 1236 00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:18.039 strangled on Fifth Avenue. 1237 00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:20.719 He's thirty first Street, to be like anyone wants chicken. 1238 00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:24.159 The two of them start sniping at each other, and 1239 00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:26.840 Rupert is looking on with interests because Rupert is a 1240 00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:27.559 smart man. 1241 00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:29.800 And he wants to fuck both of them, so we're told. 1242 00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:32.440 And so he yeah, he's like, what's happening here? How 1243 00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:35.159 can I use this to my advantage? The moment is 1244 00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:38.079 broken when Janet laughs about how silly they're all being 1245 00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:42.679 acting out about an old, dead chicken. God bless you, Janet. Yeah, 1246 00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:46.119 let's move on because this party is awful. Yeah, and 1247 00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:47.960 I need this to not be as awful as it 1248 00:59:48.039 --> 00:59:48.800 is being right now. 1249 00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:52.039 Rupert comments that it seems like the two of them 1250 00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:54.480 might have been strangling each other in a few more moments, 1251 00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:56.360 but he supposes that a chicken is as good a 1252 00:59:56.360 --> 00:59:58.519 reason for murder as a mattressful of money or a 1253 00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:01.880 beautiful woman. What a fun party guest. 1254 01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:04.960 Actually, I think it is fun. The writing is a 1255 01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:07.239 little on the nose here, but like everyone loves that 1256 01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:11.119 party guest that's like, okay, would you rather, and then 1257 01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:12.760 just comes up with something weird. 1258 01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:15.280 I will give Jimmy Stewart this. I think in the 1259 01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:17.840 beginning of the scene he does an excellent job of 1260 01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:21.000 kind of pitching this, so you're like, oh, he is 1261 01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:24.440 trying to be funny. Maybe he's a little socially awkward 1262 01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:28.400 or whatever, but he has an incredibly incredibly dry sense 1263 01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:31.639 of humor. Yes, and he's pitching it that way. It 1264 01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:35.480 it flips soon and I have thoughts later, But in 1265 01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:38.519 this case I will give him like this, does I 1266 01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:40.199 think come off like he's kind of joking. 1267 01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:42.800 I think he comes off as joking the whole time. 1268 01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:43.960 I disagree. 1269 01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:45.119 Oh okay, let's get to it. 1270 01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:48.920 So Janet scoffs that he can't really approve a murder, 1271 01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:51.119 and he says he does think of the problems it 1272 01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:54.639 would solve, unemployment, poverty, standing in line for theater tickets. 1273 01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:56.880 Your husband has said almost the exact same thing to me, 1274 01:00:56.960 --> 01:01:02.360 by the way, fair, Yeah, so don't go saying you 1275 01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:08.239 wouldn't want this guy at your party, you fucking married him. 1276 01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:12.880 The party enjoys his dry macab humor, and then eventually 1277 01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:15.840 Missus Atwater wonders if this would not just mean that 1278 01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:18.000 everybody would be murdering each other all at the time, 1279 01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:20.639 and Rupert assure so that murder would be an art 1280 01:01:20.760 --> 01:01:23.639 and as such the privilege of committing it should be 1281 01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:27.880 reserved to only a few superior individuals. Basically, Missus Atwater 1282 01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:29.840 is like, we're not gonna do a purge, right, we 1283 01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:30.360 don't want. 1284 01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:35.800 People invented the perge. Yes, canonically, Rupert invented the purge, 1285 01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:38.599 and everyone seems to be pretty much on board with it. Yeah, 1286 01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:41.840 it's nineteen forty eight, by the way, mm hmmm, I'm 1287 01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:44.360 just saying World War two has happened. Yeah, so this 1288 01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:47.599 particular talk at a party seems dicey. 1289 01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:51.719 Yeah, And to the movie's credit, it does call it out. 1290 01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:54.800 If this party were nineteen twenty eight, or or nineteen 1291 01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:58.679 eighteen or nineteen fucking eighteen thirty two, it would be 1292 01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:01.440 a little less like, Okay, didn't we just all have 1293 01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:05.159 this happen? Like, could we just like stop this conversation. 1294 01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:07.760 It's interesting because the play where it came from was 1295 01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:10.679 written in nineteen twenty nine. Yes, so it was before 1296 01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:12.880 all of that, and now this is adapted after that, 1297 01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:14.960 and they call it out they have to, they have to. 1298 01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:17.440 Yeah, so how could you know it was even in 1299 01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:19.920 my head into twenty twenty four. I can't imagine an 1300 01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:23.000 audience in nineteen forty eight not being like, I feel 1301 01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:24.480 really uncomfortable with all of this. 1302 01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:28.639 Yeah, Brandon, who he can only get so erect, and 1303 01:02:28.719 --> 01:02:32.119 this is he is at the apex. 1304 01:02:31.599 --> 01:02:35.760 Of erections, this full champagne bottle. It is, it is is, yeah, 1305 01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:36.800 Shandon and Moway. 1306 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:40.360 It is straining to unzip the zipper by itself from 1307 01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:41.039 the inside. 1308 01:02:41.119 --> 01:02:45.440 Haha. He chies is boof click going all over the room. 1309 01:02:48.679 --> 01:02:50.880 His dam isn't pairing you, you know what I mean. 1310 01:02:55.519 --> 01:03:00.840 He's pro sechoing. Brandon chimes in with his agreement. He 1311 01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:04.239 says the victims should be inferior beings whose lives don't 1312 01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:07.239 matter anyway, and Rupert agrees. So this is where it 1313 01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:13.920 loses me, Like Brandon is not kidding, and Rupert continuing 1314 01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:15.639 to agree with him, is where I'm like. 1315 01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:19.639 Hey, I because there's no situation in which none of 1316 01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:22.840 these people could conceive of what has actually happened, so 1317 01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:27.440 they think they're just playing along to Brandon also playing 1318 01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:30.320 along to Rupert's joke. He's less good at it. 1319 01:03:31.559 --> 01:03:34.320 Sure, I actually agree. I think that's what the movie intends. 1320 01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:37.079 I don't think it does not play for me, oh really, 1321 01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:40.639 because it's like someone has to someone will eventually call 1322 01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:42.039 a stop to this and call it out for being 1323 01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:46.960 as deeply unsettling as it is. But Brandon is not 1324 01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:50.079 attempting to joke, and he's not even trying to pretend 1325 01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:54.280 like he's joking. He is practically jerking himself awfull. He 1326 01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:57.199 talks about this and maybe, look, maybe that's an actor. 1327 01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:01.000 That's an actor problem. Maybe that's a Johnt or a hitchcut. Like, no, John, 1328 01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:03.079 you have to, like, you have to at least pretend 1329 01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:06.840 that you're joking. You have to soften it, because to me, 1330 01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:09.920 it's like it's him being an open sociopath and no one. 1331 01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:12.960 Being like, well, maybe that's part of it too. For 1332 01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:15.000 the movie, what you see in front of you, and 1333 01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:18.840 like the daily evils you witness and choose to ignore 1334 01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:22.360 or choose to like, No, that can't possibly be what 1335 01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:22.800 I thought. 1336 01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:23.119 It was. 1337 01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:26.360 The denial of evil right in front of you. I mean, 1338 01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:29.280 I'm giving the movie a lot of credit. I agree 1339 01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:31.480 with you. If I were directing the film, I would 1340 01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:34.280 tell him to like back it down, attach Yeah, because 1341 01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:38.480 what I think is happening is he's being extra and 1342 01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:42.199 everyone thinks he's joking because he's being so extra and 1343 01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:45.599 they're they're going along with it. The performance isn't quite 1344 01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:46.440 right for that. 1345 01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:48.880 Yeah, Jimmy Stewart manages it in the first half of 1346 01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:51.199 the scene, and this half for me, it doesn't work. 1347 01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:53.039 Oh see for me, Jimmy, I can still see a 1348 01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:55.920 smile on Jimmy Stewart's face. He is joking, and it's 1349 01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:57.880 to me very clear he is joking. 1350 01:04:58.039 --> 01:04:58.360 Okay. 1351 01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:01.480 He's also kind of flirting with missus Atwater in that 1352 01:05:01.519 --> 01:05:02.039 way that. 1353 01:05:02.039 --> 01:05:04.920 Like gay men flirt with older women to give themselves 1354 01:05:04.920 --> 01:05:05.280 a beard. 1355 01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:08.159 Whatever, whatever I do to get through the weekends, all 1356 01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:11.199 that is none of your goddamn business. But no, he 1357 01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:14.480 is like he is. He's flirting with her in a 1358 01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:17.559 way that like he's a younger man too than she is, 1359 01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:19.280 not much, but like he is a younger man, like 1360 01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:21.880 the way like some men flirt with older women because 1361 01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:24.360 you're being fun and charming you're a party. So he's 1362 01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:26.079 got this kind of like thing going. 1363 01:05:26.440 --> 01:05:29.559 I see your point. I think he to me, there's 1364 01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:31.639 an element missing. It doesn't play like that for me 1365 01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:35.199 at this point. Once once Brandon chimes in, it just 1366 01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:40.320 gets weird real fast, and anyone with any kind of 1367 01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:44.480 brain would be like, okay, thank you, moving on. 1368 01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:49.039 Ahha, No I disagree, okay, fair enough, free to disagree. 1369 01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:52.480 Yep. Mister Kentley finally speaks up and he says he 1370 01:05:52.519 --> 01:05:55.840 doesn't find the conversation amusing. Thank you, mister Kentley, and 1371 01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:59.960 Rupert says any humor was unintentional, and mister Kentley doesn't 1372 01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:03.639 believe they're serious. But Brandon wonders, why wouldn't we be serious? 1373 01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:06.360 And kent Lee wonders, who is going to decide who 1374 01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:09.000 is superior and who is inferior? And Brandon says the 1375 01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:12.039 privileged few who get to commit murder, and would decide 1376 01:06:12.199 --> 01:06:16.320 himself Philip possibly Rupert the three gay men in the room. 1377 01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:18.719 Do you think that was intentional? 1378 01:06:19.159 --> 01:06:23.079 I think it is a rightly choice to list those three. 1379 01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:28.199 And my interpretation of the film was like, those three 1380 01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:31.519 men are gay. You were kind of joking about You're 1381 01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:34.360 thinking maybe David and kind of joking also about maybe Kenneth, Like, like, 1382 01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:36.679 all four of these men are just having a good 1383 01:06:36.719 --> 01:06:37.320 time with each other. 1384 01:06:37.639 --> 01:06:39.039 What a lucky dorm room that was. 1385 01:06:39.199 --> 01:06:43.519 Yeah, truly, Oh God, the dream. But I didn't view 1386 01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:46.239 those two as as gay because they because they were 1387 01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:50.079 looked down upon so much by the other three, not 1388 01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:53.719 so much Rupert, but by the two the two confirmed homosexuals. 1389 01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:57.599 Yeah. Do you think Brandon's conception of superiority comes from 1390 01:06:57.639 --> 01:06:59.360 the fact that he's gay? Ye? 1391 01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:01.280 Other he is not ordinary? 1392 01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:06.000 Oh that's interesting. Yeah, that's fucking evil. 1393 01:07:06.199 --> 01:07:10.239 Yeah, yeah, and that is what we all think. 1394 01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:15.679 That is why all Disney villains are gay? Are gay men? 1395 01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:19.800 I can see that because the one absolutely right, those 1396 01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:21.599 three are the three that he names. He's not like 1397 01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:22.440 missus Wilson. 1398 01:07:22.599 --> 01:07:26.199 Yeah, and he's. One of the truest lines he says 1399 01:07:26.199 --> 01:07:28.960 in the movie is when Philip says, why because being 1400 01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:31.280 weak as human? He becays, no, because it's ordinary, Like 1401 01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:33.599 he does not want to be ordinary. Yeah, he wants 1402 01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:35.800 an artistic talent. He wants people to know he pulled 1403 01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:37.920 off this perfect crime. He wants all of this, and 1404 01:07:37.960 --> 01:07:41.000 he wants being ordinary is the worst thing so being normal, 1405 01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:44.719 being straight. You listen to me straight people. 1406 01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:48.519 We're coming for You're coming for you. We're coming for 1407 01:07:48.559 --> 01:07:49.079 you straight. 1408 01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:53.039 Yeah, that was how I interpreted it. But I can't 1409 01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:54.679 remember if you said this on micro off Mike. No 1410 01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:57.159 one knows. There's no like like it could be anything 1411 01:07:57.320 --> 01:07:59.679 any how anyone interprets it like what you're saying about 1412 01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:03.039 about like all four of them being like, I mean. 1413 01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:06.719 There's really no there's nothing in the film to back 1414 01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:09.920 up my claim on Kenneth. Frankly, I think there's a 1415 01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:11.960 little bit more to back up my claim on David Well. 1416 01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:13.920 When you lay it out, like what did he think 1417 01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:15.760 was happening like ecstasy of. 1418 01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:17.640 The last of his last moment in life. But like, 1419 01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:20.680 that is such an interesting interpretation. I'm going to think 1420 01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:23.760 about that. I'm gonna marinate on that because I think 1421 01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:27.199 you're right. I think that I think Arthur Lawrence maybe 1422 01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:28.479 slip some of that in there too. 1423 01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:29.239 Yeah. 1424 01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:29.880 Interesting. 1425 01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:33.800 So basically he lists off these three people, Brandon and 1426 01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:36.319 he says we are people so superior to the average 1427 01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:40.279 man that we are above basic moral concepts, and Kentley 1428 01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:43.239 comments that Brandon's words of Oke Hitler and Brandon says 1429 01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:46.640 Hitler's a paranoid savage, and kent Ley finally shuts him 1430 01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:48.840 down by saying, I don't want to hear any more 1431 01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:50.279 of your contempt for humanity. 1432 01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:55.600 This party sucks. Imagine going to a party. Someone's like, 1433 01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:01.520 Someone's like, there is an uberman, Jesus Christ. I just 1434 01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:03.079 wanted to talk about theater. 1435 01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:08.399 Are there tostitos anywhere? Is there a Check's party mix 1436 01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:10.880 that I can just dive face first into and get 1437 01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:12.039 the fuck out of this room? 1438 01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:17.399 Can someone put the game on tv? This is the 1439 01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:19.439 worst Super Bowl party I've ever been to. 1440 01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:26.600 I'm dying for nachos. Can we order nachos? Brandon apologizes 1441 01:09:26.640 --> 01:09:29.039 for getting carried away, and most of the party departs 1442 01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:31.800 the living room to see the books in the dining room. Man, 1443 01:09:32.119 --> 01:09:36.199 we were short on entertainment in nineteen forty eight. Let's 1444 01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:40.840 go look at books at this party. That'll be fun. 1445 01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:44.880 This party is so bad. Let's go look at books, 1446 01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:46.800 not open them, just look at them. 1447 01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:49.359 And Brenda's like they're candelabras too. Follow me. 1448 01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:56.760 This is the word party ever. Okay, we've talked about 1449 01:09:56.760 --> 01:09:58.239 this a lot. You know that game we play with 1450 01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:01.159 where we're like which party. Are you movie history would 1451 01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:01.840 you want to join? 1452 01:10:02.439 --> 01:10:03.520 Not this one? 1453 01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:06.279 Possibly dead fucking last. 1454 01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:12.880 So most of the people depart, leaving Janet and Kenneth alone. 1455 01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:15.800 Janet and Kenneth have a heart to heart where we 1456 01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:19.079 learned that, despite Brandon accusing Janet of dumping Kenneth for 1457 01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:24.039 David's money, Kenneth actually broke up with her. Yeah, okay, 1458 01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:24.920 my case is building. 1459 01:10:25.399 --> 01:10:26.520 Is building again, Katies. 1460 01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:28.239 And gentlemen of the jury. 1461 01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:34.439 In the case of Kenneth v. Homosexual in the case 1462 01:10:34.479 --> 01:10:35.359 of Kenneth v. 1463 01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:37.000 Friends of Dorothy. 1464 01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:42.439 In the case of the heaviness of Kenneth's loafers. 1465 01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:49.439 So Janet wishes that Kenneth and David could be friends again, 1466 01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:52.279 just as they were before romance got in the way. 1467 01:10:53.279 --> 01:10:54.439 I'm not even to touch that one. 1468 01:10:54.560 --> 01:10:54.760 Yeah. 1469 01:10:55.479 --> 01:10:58.239 They quickly realized that Brandon was playing dumb about not 1470 01:10:58.359 --> 01:11:01.439 knowing about their whole situation to inviting them both to 1471 01:11:01.479 --> 01:11:04.199 the party, right, So she's like that son of a 1472 01:11:04.199 --> 01:11:06.560 bitch is just stirring the pot for no fucking reason. 1473 01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:09.359 Of course, they know something that even Brandon doesn't know, 1474 01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:14.159 right that, like Kenneth dumped Janet. Yeah, Janet's being slutshamed 1475 01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:17.439 for no fucking reason. She's not about to have it. 1476 01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:20.640 She calls Brandon in and asks, what the fuck is 1477 01:11:20.680 --> 01:11:22.920 your game? I wish they could curse in this movie. 1478 01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:24.760 She can't, So she just asked what his game is? 1479 01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:28.920 I wrote down the response. Can I give it to you? 1480 01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:31.439 Brandon? What the fuck is your game? 1481 01:11:32.119 --> 01:11:35.359 Some women are quite charming when they're angry, Janet, Unfortunately 1482 01:11:35.520 --> 01:11:47.079 you're not. That is varsity level hunch. I'm sorry. It's 1483 01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:50.079 like he knows why he's angry and he's still gonna 1484 01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:51.840 just like Shanker in the stomach. 1485 01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:54.319 I feel like Sasha Valor just called me a whore, 1486 01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:59.880 not in a good way. So Janet snaps that she 1487 01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:02.760 doesn't think David is coming after all, and she doesn't 1488 01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:03.319 even think. 1489 01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:06.800 He Oh he came. He wasn't the only one. 1490 01:12:07.239 --> 01:12:10.760 Who if when we turn on the black light, this 1491 01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:14.399 room is a fucking painting Jackson Pollock painting. 1492 01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:15.720 Yeah. 1493 01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:18.840 She's like, did you even invite David to this party? 1494 01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:20.640 Or did you set all of this up just to 1495 01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:24.079 get me and Kenneth back together? And Brandon's like, I 1496 01:12:24.119 --> 01:12:28.680 have bigger fish to fry, yeah than your whole drama. Uh, 1497 01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:30.039 don't worry about it. 1498 01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:33.279 So Janet and Kenneth stalk away, and Rupert approaches to 1499 01:12:33.399 --> 01:12:36.000 also wonder where could David be. 1500 01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:37.680 David must be fascinating. 1501 01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:38.199 Yeah. 1502 01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:41.079 Can you imagine a party where like someone's ten minutes 1503 01:12:41.159 --> 01:12:42.399 late and everyone's like, where are they? 1504 01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:45.359 Where I hear you? I presume that's what happens when 1505 01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:46.399 I'm ten minutes late to a party. 1506 01:12:46.439 --> 01:12:48.279 Is that You've never been ten minutes late to a party? 1507 01:12:48.359 --> 01:12:48.520 Yeah? 1508 01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:51.479 If you do have me there, I dare you to 1509 01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:53.560 be thirty minutes late to something one day. 1510 01:12:54.319 --> 01:12:58.159 I would literally show up and I would have sweat 1511 01:12:58.239 --> 01:13:01.199 all the way down. You know those tank tops where 1512 01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:04.199 like they like the sweat stain. I cannot handle being late. 1513 01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:06.760 I understand because when I'm late for something with you, 1514 01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:09.439 which is often most of the time, when I'm late 1515 01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:11.159 to something, I don't care. But when I'm late to 1516 01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:15.119 something with you, I get nervous on your behalf. I'm like, 1517 01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:18.039 he is going to be so nervous that I am late. 1518 01:13:18.840 --> 01:13:22.960 I'm sorry, this is somehow your anxiety has hit me. 1519 01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:24.960 I'm sorry. That's awful. 1520 01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:28.720 It's not awful, you know what, bitch, Beyond time of things, 1521 01:13:30.039 --> 01:13:32.840 that's my problem for being ten minutes late to everything. 1522 01:13:34.199 --> 01:13:37.720 All right, So Brandon says, I'm also wondering, and he 1523 01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:39.920 just goes to get dessert, leaving Rupert alone in the 1524 01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:42.239 living room. Rupert, by the way, is carrying the most 1525 01:13:42.279 --> 01:13:46.479 fifty dessert fifties dessert ever, which is like ice cream 1526 01:13:46.600 --> 01:13:51.560 pyramids with chocolate sauce on them and a Maraschino cherry 1527 01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:54.239 and then I guess maybe a piece of short bread. 1528 01:13:54.319 --> 01:13:56.880 I think it's merangue, is it morene? I thought they 1529 01:13:56.880 --> 01:14:00.760 were like merengue puffs like pre funerals, but the ice 1530 01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:02.760 cream is on the outside for some reason. 1531 01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:05.119 Or maybe that was whipped cream. It's wild whipped cream. 1532 01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:07.720 It's probably whippcream because obviously it's a movie, so most 1533 01:14:07.720 --> 01:14:09.760 people aren't eating their food, and so it has to 1534 01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:11.720 sit out for a while and it doesn't quite melt. 1535 01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:15.199 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so maybe those are like mringe. 1536 01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:17.560 It's probably actually shaving cream or something to make it 1537 01:14:17.560 --> 01:14:18.840 make it total had because. 1538 01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:19.760 Actors are eating, oh they are. 1539 01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:20.880 Actors are eating during the. 1540 01:14:20.800 --> 01:14:24.039 Show during the movie. There's some Instagram account that I 1541 01:14:24.079 --> 01:14:26.640 follow called seventies Cookbook, which is one of my favorite 1542 01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:30.600 Instagram accounts, and it's just someone posting about horrible old 1543 01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:38.279 cookbook recipes like hot dog salado, which is basically hot 1544 01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:41.399 dogs in a gell mold with like I don't know 1545 01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:44.039 sour cream on it. I don't even know what it is. Yeah, 1546 01:14:44.079 --> 01:14:45.880 but like it's that kind of shit. This is You're 1547 01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:49.199 absolutely right. This is so nineteen fifties terrible. 1548 01:14:49.159 --> 01:14:53.079 All right. So missus Wilson enters and she confides in Rupert. 1549 01:14:53.119 --> 01:14:55.439 Remember we learned earlier that missus Wilson like used to 1550 01:14:55.479 --> 01:14:57.720 work for Rupert before she worked for Brandon and fell up. 1551 01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:00.479 She's just flitting from gay. 1552 01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:02.720 Look, she's got a niche and she's filling it. That's right, 1553 01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:05.920 just like David and brand just like. 1554 01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:10.760 It's like Philip and Brent. So she comments to him 1555 01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:13.640 immediately starts gossiping, right, the help always has all the 1556 01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:17.000 best gossip, right, And she says, Brandon and Philip have 1557 01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:19.520 been worked up all day. There was a last minute 1558 01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:21.600 change in the dinner setting, and now I have to 1559 01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:24.319 clean off this wooden chest and replace the books inside 1560 01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:26.319 of it where they originally were stored, rather than just 1561 01:15:26.319 --> 01:15:28.640 simply having them on the chest in the first place, 1562 01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:30.439 and eating in a dining room like a civilized blah 1563 01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:33.359 blah blah blah blah. And Philip hears her complaining and 1564 01:15:33.399 --> 01:15:35.760 he tried her to serve the guests and don't lecture. 1565 01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:37.920 Philip says that not Brandon. 1566 01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:40.560 No I know, because Phillip's like, do not shut up, 1567 01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:43.399 shut up, shut up, You're blowing up our spot. He 1568 01:15:43.479 --> 01:15:46.880 says it in the worst way. He's like, servant girl, 1569 01:15:47.079 --> 01:15:49.000 continue to serve and don't keep your mouth. 1570 01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:54.600 Excuse me, beer wench. So Rupert takes all of this 1571 01:15:54.680 --> 01:15:57.640 in with a contemplative expression. He's gathering information. 1572 01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:01.439 Philip flounces over to the piano and starts to play 1573 01:16:01.640 --> 01:16:02.800 a flounce of gaze. 1574 01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:03.760 A flounce of gaze. 1575 01:16:03.840 --> 01:16:08.479 Oh, this movie features a flounce of gays. Rupert follows 1576 01:16:08.479 --> 01:16:10.640 and asks him what's going on. He's like, why is 1577 01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:14.319 the vibe so fucking weird at this party? What is happening? 1578 01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:17.000 This is the worst Christening I've ever been to. 1579 01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:19.920 I know that a brisk can sometimes be a little 1580 01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:22.239 bit weird, okay, but this is odd. 1581 01:16:22.359 --> 01:16:25.399 This is the this is heavy. It's a heavy brisk. 1582 01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:27.439 If there's too many boys at the brist they get 1583 01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:28.640 real squirreling. Ah. 1584 01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:33.760 Philip tries to avoid the question, But then Rupert presses 1585 01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:36.079 and he and Philip snaps on him. He's like, say 1586 01:16:36.079 --> 01:16:39.319 what you mean, Rupert? Yeah, and Rupert goes, where's David? 1587 01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:42.279 Point blank? Philip says, I don't know, how would I 1588 01:16:42.319 --> 01:16:45.520 know what? I'm just like the piano party? What my 1589 01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:46.479 David's keepert. 1590 01:16:46.239 --> 01:16:48.960 I would say that they had him keep playing faster 1591 01:16:49.039 --> 01:16:50.479 and faster, like by the end he's doing like the 1592 01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:51.319 Flight of the Bumblebee. 1593 01:16:53.399 --> 01:16:56.399 Rupert is like, what is Brandon trying to accomplish with 1594 01:16:56.520 --> 01:16:59.199 Janet and Kenneth? So I like that they get that 1595 01:16:59.359 --> 01:17:02.960 something's a fo they're so so deeply wrong about what 1596 01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:09.000 it is. Philip laughs. He's like, oh, okay, okay, So 1597 01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:12.680 you think it's about nothing's going on, don't worry about it. 1598 01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:14.680 It's just normal Brandon shit, just. 1599 01:17:14.760 --> 01:17:17.760 Normal Brandon trying to set people up. Don't worry about it. 1600 01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:20.399 And then Rupert comments that this is the second time 1601 01:17:20.439 --> 01:17:23.159 you've lied to me tonight, Philip, and the first time 1602 01:17:23.199 --> 01:17:27.319 is when it said you never strangled chicken. Philip's like what, 1603 01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:31.920 and Rupert's like, I remembered the story about you strangling 1604 01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:34.760 the chicken. You've told it before. And then Philip stops 1605 01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:36.880 playing and turns away in a burst of anxiety. 1606 01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:40.199 Unfortunately, the first thing and already flustered Philip sees when 1607 01:17:40.199 --> 01:17:43.319 he turns away is Kentley leaving with some books tied 1608 01:17:43.359 --> 01:17:48.199 together with the titular rope. Ouch Brandon is such a 1609 01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:54.680 fuck wad, just the worst. He goes white as a sheet. 1610 01:17:55.039 --> 01:17:58.119 Philip to be clear, and Rupert presses him as to 1611 01:17:58.199 --> 01:18:00.039 what's wrong, and he just says, well, I just I 1612 01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:01.680 think it's a clumsy way to type those books. 1613 01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:05.760 It's just weird, perfect save Philip, no notes, nailed. 1614 01:18:05.399 --> 01:18:08.600 It, just say just say that the cold pheasant isn't 1615 01:18:08.600 --> 01:18:10.920 agreeing with me. I have to go shiit my brains out, and. 1616 01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:14.720 Like gues you then are serving cold pheasant. That is 1617 01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:17.520 a very easy thing to be like cold pheasant and 1618 01:18:17.520 --> 01:18:20.359 whatever fucking dessert this is. 1619 01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:23.079 And this gelatinous mass. 1620 01:18:22.520 --> 01:18:26.159 Is currently creating a storm system in my lower bowels. 1621 01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:29.399 And everyone's gonna want to leave real quick. 1622 01:18:29.279 --> 01:18:32.840 Katee patteras look, look out, a storm's a bruin. 1623 01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:37.239 So Philip slips away from Rupert. As the older man 1624 01:18:37.279 --> 01:18:39.279 looks at the bundle of books, He's like. 1625 01:18:40.039 --> 01:18:42.359 We're a weird thing to be freaked out about here's 1626 01:18:42.479 --> 01:18:45.439 acting awful weird. We've never we should do Jimmy Stewart's 1627 01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:46.039 fair up. 1628 01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:47.079 Tell me what's going on? 1629 01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:49.119 Are you acting so weird? 1630 01:18:49.199 --> 01:18:51.760 Philip, Mine sounds like agent double panties. 1631 01:18:53.199 --> 01:18:55.560 I don't know what mine sounds like. It's perfect. 1632 01:18:55.920 --> 01:18:57.640 It sounds like Jimmy Stewart, the. 1633 01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:01.000 Perfect Jimmy Stewart. I have the perfect Jimmy Stewart. 1634 01:19:01.119 --> 01:19:03.720 That's not bad. You have watched It's a wonderful life 1635 01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:04.000 a lot. 1636 01:19:04.079 --> 01:19:09.119 It's terrible, thank you? Why why are you being so squorely? Brandon? 1637 01:19:09.720 --> 01:19:12.760 You told the story about strangling the chicken before, Brandon, 1638 01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:13.359 it was. 1639 01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:17.479 A euphemism for masturbation. Everyone knew what we were talking about. 1640 01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:19.960 Brandon. I love the way you fondled that champagne bottle. 1641 01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:22.720 I think I'll stay the night. 1642 01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:24.920 Get out the whips and change. It's gonna be a 1643 01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:25.800 fun one kids. 1644 01:19:26.600 --> 01:19:32.399 Welcome to Bedford Falls. Everyone. Philip and Brandon start another 1645 01:19:32.479 --> 01:19:37.000 hushed argument. Right God, these two yeah, stepping on rates 1646 01:19:37.079 --> 01:19:42.159 every fucking chance they get. But we committed the perfect murder. 1647 01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:46.600 No one can hear me. I'm whispering. 1648 01:19:47.199 --> 01:19:49.680 This living room is at least twelve by twelve. 1649 01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:54.760 Rupert walks over and interrupts their hushed, weird fucking conversation. 1650 01:19:55.279 --> 01:19:57.920 He says, there's something that is upsetting you both, and 1651 01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:00.079 I am here to get to the and then he 1652 01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:03.920 is interrupted by Missus Wilson with word that Missus Kentley 1653 01:20:03.960 --> 01:20:05.439 is on the phone and would like to speak to 1654 01:20:05.560 --> 01:20:09.199 any member of her family. Missus Atwater goes to take 1655 01:20:09.239 --> 01:20:11.000 the call, and I do miss her presence when she's 1656 01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:13.760 not in the room, as the party goers continue to 1657 01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:16.960 talk about David's mysterious absence. Seriously, he has been gone 1658 01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:20.199 for ten minutes. Missus Wilson, in the meantime, goes about 1659 01:20:20.239 --> 01:20:22.560 cleaning off the wooden chest from the remains of the dinner, 1660 01:20:22.840 --> 01:20:25.079 and she gets all the way to bringing the books 1661 01:20:25.159 --> 01:20:29.680 back in and starts to open the chest with Rupert's help. 1662 01:20:29.680 --> 01:20:33.279 They're carrying books back into the chest when Brandon rushes 1663 01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:36.159 over and insists that Missus Wilson can replace the books 1664 01:20:36.199 --> 01:20:38.399 in the morning. Do it in the morning, don't do 1665 01:20:38.479 --> 01:20:38.800 it now. 1666 01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:40.359 She does ow great line here. She's like, I wasn't 1667 01:20:40.359 --> 01:20:42.119 planning on being here in the morning. He's like, bitch, 1668 01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:46.399 change of plans one hundred percent. Missus Atwater returns with 1669 01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:49.199 the report that Missus Kentley is now frantic about David 1670 01:20:49.239 --> 01:20:50.439 and wants to call the police. 1671 01:20:50.840 --> 01:20:54.960 Helicopter much David is a grown ass man. If we 1672 01:20:55.159 --> 01:20:57.640 didn't know he was murdered, these people would seem in. 1673 01:20:57.720 --> 01:20:59.560 Sane, insane insane. 1674 01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:03.279 He is, He's thirty. Calm the fuck down, everybody. 1675 01:21:04.199 --> 01:21:08.000 So mister Kentley, Missus Atwater, Janet, and Kenneth all head 1676 01:21:08.119 --> 01:21:10.439 back to the Kentley house to wait for David, and 1677 01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:13.560 Rupert also prepares to depart, and as everyone is saying 1678 01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:16.520 they're goodbyes, Missus Wilson grabs Rupert's hat for him, because 1679 01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:18.720 again she has a little crush on him, right, but 1680 01:21:18.840 --> 01:21:21.119 she grabs the wrong one and he looks inside the 1681 01:21:21.159 --> 01:21:24.640 hat and he sees the initials d Kay. Inside it's 1682 01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:28.840 a Donna Karen hat. Y'all. Oo so exciting, so exciting. 1683 01:21:29.319 --> 01:21:33.319 Okay, boys, oh Paul, I see no problem with their 1684 01:21:33.399 --> 01:21:35.680 otherwise perfect murder. 1685 01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:39.920 Nut boys, Listen to me. You murdered them and you 1686 01:21:40.039 --> 01:21:42.760 didn't remember to just take all of the possessions he 1687 01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:44.239 brought in with him and put it in the coffin 1688 01:21:44.279 --> 01:21:47.880 with him. Come on, come on, this is basic Paul. 1689 01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:51.039 They're geniuses. They're better than us. They don't need to 1690 01:21:51.039 --> 01:21:51.680 be good at this. 1691 01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:52.800 That's right, that's right. 1692 01:21:52.880 --> 01:21:56.680 They're just a couple of pistachios murdering people at will. 1693 01:21:57.239 --> 01:22:00.520 So missus Wilson gets him in the right, and then 1694 01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:03.560 she heads back into the kitchen as Brandon closes the 1695 01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:06.079 door on all of their guests and he lights another 1696 01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:10.920 post coital cigarette. Flying high from the experience, he. 1697 01:22:10.760 --> 01:22:12.880 Heads back to the living room, where a far more 1698 01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:16.880 anxious Philip pours himself another drink. Very worried that Rupert's 1699 01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:19.920 starting to suspect. Yeah, I don't know why he would suspect. 1700 01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:22.600 You've both been acting so normal. The two of them 1701 01:22:22.640 --> 01:22:25.640 start fighting again, with Philip snapping at Brandon he only 1702 01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:28.880 ever thinks of himself. Brandon changes the subject and proposes 1703 01:22:28.880 --> 01:22:31.800 a holiday for them. Once you know David's disappearance is 1704 01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:32.520 blown over. 1705 01:22:32.680 --> 01:22:33.680 Yeah, let's just go. 1706 01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:37.560 Let's go to on vacation together. Nothing gay about that, 1707 01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:39.359 not at all. By the way, we. 1708 01:22:39.359 --> 01:22:43.159 Covered let's go to sit Let's go to Palm Springs. 1709 01:22:42.880 --> 01:22:45.039 Way earlier in the movie, Let's go to the Pines 1710 01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:48.439 way earlier in the movie. Philip's going away like Philip 1711 01:22:48.479 --> 01:22:50.800 is going out to the country to go practice his 1712 01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:54.039 piano for his big debut. Do you remember where he's going. 1713 01:22:54.079 --> 01:22:56.199 He's going to Brandon's mother's house. 1714 01:22:56.439 --> 01:23:00.960 Brandon's mother's house. Yeah, these two are come in law married, 1715 01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:03.840 and everyone goes yeah. Phillips starts to saying, I keep 1716 01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:05.680 praying that I'll just wake up and find we haven't 1717 01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:08.800 committed the murder, that this was all a bad, horrible dream, 1718 01:23:09.119 --> 01:23:12.119 and Brandon's like why, And Philip's like, I'm scared to 1719 01:23:12.239 --> 01:23:14.439 death that we're gonna get cut, and Brandon assures him 1720 01:23:14.439 --> 01:23:16.039 there's no chance of that. 1721 01:23:16.520 --> 01:23:20.119 Yeah. Trust to me, we have this covered. We have 1722 01:23:20.239 --> 01:23:21.560 made zero mistakes. 1723 01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:25.159 I if I know anything, and I do, is that 1724 01:23:25.199 --> 01:23:27.840 we have committed the perfect murder. 1725 01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:33.319 Missus Wilson heads out and Brandon calls the garage to 1726 01:23:33.439 --> 01:23:36.560 send their car around. Philip's hair, by the way, is 1727 01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:39.039 now must, which in the late forties means that one 1728 01:23:39.159 --> 01:23:42.399 single curl has escaped from the shellacking that his hair 1729 01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:44.640 is usually done to hair on the head, and he 1730 01:23:44.680 --> 01:23:46.960 now just looks like Superman. He's so hot, he's very, 1731 01:23:47.079 --> 01:23:50.640 very good looking. Before they can proceed, the bell rings again. Oh, 1732 01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:53.399 by the way, so before the bell rings, they're like 1733 01:23:53.399 --> 01:23:55.880 getting ready to like take the body downstairs. How are 1734 01:23:55.920 --> 01:24:00.560 these two Jabbroni's going to get the body down stairs 1735 01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:04.520 and into their car in Manhattan without anybody seeing them? 1736 01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:07.880 May, okay, it's nineteen forty eight. Cars are huge, Okay, 1737 01:24:08.079 --> 01:24:10.159 do we think that trunk would fit in the car. 1738 01:24:10.279 --> 01:24:11.840 Oh, so they're just gonna take the whole trunk out. 1739 01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:13.800 I was okay, either they were gonna take the trunk 1740 01:24:13.800 --> 01:24:15.479 out or they're gonna do the old roll them up 1741 01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:17.600 in a carpet. Yeah, this is why I can't commit murder. 1742 01:24:17.600 --> 01:24:19.760 I don't have carpet's big enough, fair enough, Oh, never 1743 01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:21.560 mind living room carpet. You know what I can commit. 1744 01:24:22.079 --> 01:24:24.920 I could kill a very slender person and it'll be fine. 1745 01:24:25.159 --> 01:24:26.920 It would be fine, good, I'm safe. I forgot. 1746 01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:29.560 That's my theory. The movie doesn't get that far. Is 1747 01:24:29.560 --> 01:24:31.640 that they were planning something. 1748 01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:34.319 You know, but that is that is bringing the whole 1749 01:24:34.359 --> 01:24:37.039 chest down would be would suck. It would be very heavy, 1750 01:24:37.039 --> 01:24:39.439 But it does make sense. Okay, So the bell rings again, 1751 01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:42.920 sending Philip into a tailspin, and Brandon is like, answer 1752 01:24:42.960 --> 01:24:45.640 the fucking call, and Phillip's I can't Brand's like, answer it, 1753 01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:49.680 so he goes over there. He answers it. It's Rupert 1754 01:24:49.720 --> 01:24:52.880 who claims he left a cigarette case there, and Philip 1755 01:24:52.920 --> 01:24:56.279 starts to panic and Brandon slaps him, telling him shut up, 1756 01:24:56.680 --> 01:24:59.680 and he goes over and he tells Rupert, come on up, 1757 01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:01.479 of course, come get your cigarette case. 1758 01:25:01.720 --> 01:25:06.039 Rupert is hearing that conversation is ring ring ring ring. Hello, 1759 01:25:06.439 --> 01:25:10.880 Oh hi Philip, I as seem to have misplayed. Now 1760 01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:17.359 he's a muppet, It's still better than my Michael came. 1761 01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:20.920 Oh oh hi, Philip, I seem to have lost my 1762 01:25:21.039 --> 01:25:23.640 cigarette case in your apartment. Can I come and pick 1763 01:25:23.640 --> 01:25:24.000 it up? 1764 01:25:25.800 --> 01:25:26.000 Um? 1765 01:25:28.079 --> 01:25:28.560 Shut up? 1766 01:25:31.319 --> 01:25:32.680 Sure, come on up. 1767 01:25:35.279 --> 01:25:36.239 Yeah, that's accurate. 1768 01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:38.680 That's that's what he heard. And he's like, well, they 1769 01:25:38.760 --> 01:25:39.960 definitely committed a murder. 1770 01:25:40.039 --> 01:25:40.239 Yep. 1771 01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:43.199 Brandon fortifies Philip with a drink and tells him that 1772 01:25:43.319 --> 01:25:47.159 no one, not Rupert, not even Philip, is going to 1773 01:25:47.239 --> 01:25:50.239 get in his way or get him caught. Do you 1774 01:25:50.399 --> 01:25:54.279 understand me. He puts a loaded pistol in his jacket 1775 01:25:54.279 --> 01:25:59.000 pocket and he lets Rupert in. Rupert enters plans his 1776 01:25:59.039 --> 01:26:01.479 cigarette case on the wooden chest right, because he didn't 1777 01:26:01.560 --> 01:26:03.479 leave one behind, he should have left one behind earlier, 1778 01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:06.079 but didn't think they are both staring right at him. 1779 01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:07.159 I don't know how they didn't see him. 1780 01:26:07.159 --> 01:26:09.199 It's not particularly surpitious. 1781 01:26:09.800 --> 01:26:12.560 But the camera can see he has it behind his back, 1782 01:26:12.840 --> 01:26:15.720 and then he asks for another drink. He heads back 1783 01:26:15.760 --> 01:26:17.680 to the chest and he's like, where could I have 1784 01:26:17.760 --> 01:26:19.760 put my Oh? There it is, and he find he 1785 01:26:19.960 --> 01:26:23.520 quote unquote discovers his cigarette case. He takes the drink, 1786 01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:25.239 and he settles down in an armchair. You know that 1787 01:26:25.319 --> 01:26:28.279 thing of when when you have people over and you're 1788 01:26:28.640 --> 01:26:31.520 so ready for them not to be there, and you 1789 01:26:31.680 --> 01:26:35.800 have that one guest who just won't leave your owne 1790 01:26:36.159 --> 01:26:39.680 deaf motherfucker who's like, well, anyway, let's just settle in 1791 01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:41.000 for the night. Bring the bottle. 1792 01:26:42.039 --> 01:26:44.640 I have a story about that, where our dear friend 1793 01:26:44.680 --> 01:26:47.039 Adam and his husband Barry were staying with us and 1794 01:26:47.079 --> 01:26:49.279 we had a friend who would not leave. And to 1795 01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:52.479 this day Adam will be like, Barry could not believe 1796 01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:55.880 that person would not leave the apartment. He's still offended 1797 01:26:56.319 --> 01:27:00.800 years later. It wasn't even barry apartment. He was a 1798 01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:02.319 stay with us, and he was like, this person's gotta 1799 01:27:02.359 --> 01:27:03.159 go there go. 1800 01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:08.279 They are overstaying they're welcome, So Brandon and Philip just 1801 01:27:08.319 --> 01:27:12.359 sort of loom over Rupert like, Okay, I guess we're 1802 01:27:12.399 --> 01:27:16.479 doing this, motherfucker, and Rupert equivocates and stalls. He slowly 1803 01:27:16.479 --> 01:27:19.279 SIPs his drink. He says he hates to leave a party, 1804 01:27:19.399 --> 01:27:23.239 especially when an evening has been strange. That might be 1805 01:27:23.279 --> 01:27:27.039 the gay thing anyone, says, even gayer than. 1806 01:27:27.159 --> 01:27:29.119 Grab the cuttle follow me. 1807 01:27:31.319 --> 01:27:34.199 He's like, I love when the vibe is weird. Let's 1808 01:27:34.199 --> 01:27:34.960 make it weirder. 1809 01:27:35.159 --> 01:27:35.920 Yeah. 1810 01:27:35.960 --> 01:27:38.640 Philip demands to know what he means, and Rupert says, 1811 01:27:38.720 --> 01:27:42.239 it's just been the strangest evening, and isn't it queer? 1812 01:27:42.439 --> 01:27:47.199 How David never arrived? Brandon surreptitiously moves his hand into 1813 01:27:47.199 --> 01:27:48.680 his pocket with the gun. Yep. 1814 01:27:49.600 --> 01:27:52.640 Rupert says Janet thought that maybe Brandon in some way 1815 01:27:52.720 --> 01:27:57.079 kidnapped David or otherwise prevented him from attending, and Brandon says, 1816 01:27:57.239 --> 01:28:01.640 I am not interested in Janet's prattle, but Rupert, Rupert, 1817 01:28:01.800 --> 01:28:06.079 you're always interesting. Brandon is at this point inches away 1818 01:28:06.079 --> 01:28:09.239 from submitting a manuscript entitled If I Did It right. 1819 01:28:09.840 --> 01:28:13.920 He's so there, so he asks Rupert, do you think 1820 01:28:13.960 --> 01:28:16.239 that I can nap David, and Rupert says it's the 1821 01:28:16.279 --> 01:28:18.079 sort of thing that would have appealed to him at school. 1822 01:28:18.119 --> 01:28:20.680 So now we know that Brandon was just always a sociopath. Yeah, 1823 01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:24.399 always an evil, evil person. Brandon asks him what Rupert 1824 01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:26.319 would have done if he wanted to get David out 1825 01:28:26.359 --> 01:28:29.319 of the way, and Rupert paints quite a specific picture 1826 01:28:29.359 --> 01:28:31.640 of what he might do. He'd greet David at the door, 1827 01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:34.039 he'd take his hat, he'd offer small talk, he'd give 1828 01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:35.359 him a drink, he'd knock him out. 1829 01:28:35.800 --> 01:28:39.039 He has figured this out. It's also answers the question 1830 01:28:39.119 --> 01:28:40.439 that I had from the beginning of the movie is 1831 01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:42.399 what the fuck did David think he was there for? Yeah, 1832 01:28:42.439 --> 01:28:45.039 but if he's been if he's been poisoned in some way, 1833 01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:47.560 so he's weakened. Yeah, that makes a lot more sense. 1834 01:28:47.600 --> 01:28:50.520 Is because even though there's two against one, how come 1835 01:28:51.039 --> 01:28:52.399 David just dies so easily? 1836 01:28:52.560 --> 01:28:55.439 Yeah? At this point, just you know, because I did 1837 01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:58.159 not know how this movie ended, really, I was kind 1838 01:28:58.199 --> 01:29:00.760 of thinking this is going to be really fucked up. 1839 01:29:00.920 --> 01:29:05.159 If if Brandon and Rupert decide they're gonna murder Philip 1840 01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:07.600 and run off together, and that's the end of the movie. 1841 01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:08.800 That would be a better movie. 1842 01:29:08.840 --> 01:29:11.039 That's a better movie, and it solves the problem the 1843 01:29:11.079 --> 01:29:13.600 discussion we had earlier. I had one interpretation, you had 1844 01:29:13.600 --> 01:29:18.640 the other one, because this is weird. His whole thing 1845 01:29:18.920 --> 01:29:22.239 in this whole scene is weird because he's like I 1846 01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:25.039 eventually be I never knew how to interact with the world, 1847 01:29:25.039 --> 01:29:29.600 and I'm like, okay, sure, sure, jan like whatever. I 1848 01:29:29.680 --> 01:29:32.119 actually thought that it was gonna be like He's like 1849 01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:37.560 amazing at one point and like yeah, flow clap, yeah, 1850 01:29:37.640 --> 01:29:39.199 that's how the lesbian version ends. 1851 01:29:39.279 --> 01:29:41.880 Well done, boys, you've done it. 1852 01:29:42.079 --> 01:29:44.520 But do you know a secret shared amongst three is 1853 01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:47.119 no secret at all? And then they just both turn 1854 01:29:47.199 --> 01:29:50.000 to Philip, and Philip tries to run. 1855 01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:52.319 And they get you they won't, but he can't because 1856 01:29:52.319 --> 01:29:53.079 he's been poisoned. 1857 01:29:53.159 --> 01:29:55.239 He isn't poisoned. He falls to the ground and they 1858 01:29:55.279 --> 01:29:56.159 both loom over him. 1859 01:29:56.159 --> 01:29:58.159 The last thing we see is them putting gloves on. 1860 01:29:58.319 --> 01:30:01.239 That's right, as we see from Philip's of you, everything 1861 01:30:01.319 --> 01:30:01.880 go black. 1862 01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:03.239 That's right. End of movie. 1863 01:30:03.520 --> 01:30:06.960 Call us Hitchcock, we have notes, call us we'd have 1864 01:30:07.039 --> 01:30:07.960 a better movie. 1865 01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:11.640 Okay, sorry, back to this movie, which is also quite good. 1866 01:30:12.880 --> 01:30:15.920 And moral and upstanding, and Jimmy Stewart can't play a killer. 1867 01:30:16.319 --> 01:30:16.880 You just can't. 1868 01:30:17.079 --> 01:30:19.600 So as Rupert keeps talking about how he would do it, 1869 01:30:19.640 --> 01:30:22.439 if he was going to do it, Brandon circles around him. 1870 01:30:22.479 --> 01:30:24.479 His hand is on the gun and the pressure is 1871 01:30:24.520 --> 01:30:27.119 too much for Philip, who throws his drink on the 1872 01:30:27.119 --> 01:30:30.039 ground and shouts cat and mouse, cat and mouse only, 1873 01:30:30.079 --> 01:30:32.439 which is the cat and which is the mouse? 1874 01:30:33.000 --> 01:30:33.359 Oh? 1875 01:30:33.439 --> 01:30:38.760 Keep jokey given Philip state, Brandon suggests Rupert leave unless 1876 01:30:38.760 --> 01:30:40.520 he has something else he needs to clear up. 1877 01:30:40.800 --> 01:30:46.960 Because Philip is now turned into a deaf poet. Rupert 1878 01:30:47.000 --> 01:30:50.039 says he doesn't think Brandon kidnapped David. He wouldn't even 1879 01:30:50.039 --> 01:30:52.000 have mentioned it except for the fact that Brandon is 1880 01:30:52.039 --> 01:30:55.960 carrying a gun in his pocket. Brandon laughs, He's like, oh, 1881 01:30:56.039 --> 01:30:58.359 he takes the gun out, and he's like this old thing. 1882 01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:01.359 So from the jump, Rupert's like, is that a gun 1883 01:31:01.399 --> 01:31:03.239 in your pocket? Or oh, no, gun, that's a gun 1884 01:31:03.279 --> 01:31:03.720 in your pocket. 1885 01:31:03.760 --> 01:31:04.039 Pocket. 1886 01:31:04.079 --> 01:31:05.159 You are not happy to see me. 1887 01:31:05.319 --> 01:31:06.680 I know what it looks like when you're happy to 1888 01:31:06.680 --> 01:31:08.520 see me and you actually have a curve to the left. 1889 01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:09.760 That's not you. 1890 01:31:10.560 --> 01:31:13.520 Brandon tosses the gun on the piano, which is not safe. 1891 01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:14.000 Don't do that. 1892 01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:14.600 Don't do that. 1893 01:31:14.640 --> 01:31:17.079 He says, Oh, I'm you know, we're driving up to 1894 01:31:17.119 --> 01:31:19.319 the country and I need to have a gun at 1895 01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:21.479 hand as there have been burglaries in the region and 1896 01:31:21.920 --> 01:31:24.399 mother is quite concerned. And I'm like, you're going up 1897 01:31:24.399 --> 01:31:27.720 to the country. Bears just say, Bears, man, why are 1898 01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:31.840 you inventing burglaries in Connecticut? So Rupert walks to the 1899 01:31:31.840 --> 01:31:34.640 window and says, well, I'll be going, and he pretends 1900 01:31:34.680 --> 01:31:37.479 to gather his things, and Rupert takes the rope out 1901 01:31:37.479 --> 01:31:39.920 of his pocket and he turns around so they can 1902 01:31:39.920 --> 01:31:43.039 see him holding it. He's sort of swinging it around 1903 01:31:43.079 --> 01:31:46.039 the same way Brandon was earlier in the film. Philip 1904 01:31:46.439 --> 01:31:51.680 loses it. He shouts, he's got it, he knows. Philip 1905 01:31:51.760 --> 01:31:54.439 grabs the gun. He lashes out at Brandon, saying he 1906 01:31:54.640 --> 01:31:56.920 just as soon shoot him as Rupert. You got me 1907 01:31:56.960 --> 01:31:59.119 into this, this fucking mess, and now I'm gonna get 1908 01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:01.680 this all out of it. Brandon made me do it. 1909 01:32:01.920 --> 01:32:05.239 I hate him. I hate both of you. Rupert grabs 1910 01:32:05.279 --> 01:32:07.119 for the gun. The gun, the gun. 1911 01:32:07.119 --> 01:32:09.840 The both reach the gun, the gun, the gun, the gun, 1912 01:32:09.840 --> 01:32:11.479 the gun. The gun, the gun, the gun, the gun, 1913 01:32:11.520 --> 01:32:16.760 the gun. Both reached for the go. 1914 01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:23.119 Rupert grabs the gun and the two men struggle silently 1915 01:32:23.239 --> 01:32:25.840 until Rupert manages to wrest the gun away from Philip. 1916 01:32:26.199 --> 01:32:33.680 This is the most hilarious choreography. This fight choreo is 1917 01:32:33.880 --> 01:32:36.800 so funny. Yeah, because it's all one shot. There are 1918 01:32:36.880 --> 01:32:41.399 no cuts, so they have they have really pigeonholed themselves 1919 01:32:41.439 --> 01:32:44.880 into this moment with the awkwardest fucking fight you have 1920 01:32:45.039 --> 01:32:45.880 ever seen. 1921 01:32:45.640 --> 01:32:47.239 And they want it there. The gun goes off and 1922 01:32:47.279 --> 01:32:49.079 fires into the floor, so they also want a fake 1923 01:32:49.119 --> 01:32:51.039 gun shot in the middle of it too. It's just 1924 01:32:51.039 --> 01:32:54.039 just take out the gun, Alfred, like, it's just just 1925 01:32:54.159 --> 01:32:57.039 let these two guys actually, because they don't speak either, 1926 01:32:57.119 --> 01:32:58.159 it's totally silent. 1927 01:32:58.319 --> 01:33:00.760 Yeah, yea, it is so awkward to watch. 1928 01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:01.199 Yep. 1929 01:33:01.680 --> 01:33:04.960 So Rupert manages to get the gun and Philip collapses 1930 01:33:04.960 --> 01:33:07.720 on the piano bench. Yeh, he's got the vapis Why 1931 01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:09.279 is it not a sheds when one needs one. 1932 01:33:09.520 --> 01:33:13.000 Brandon apologizes for Philip's behavior. He says he's becoming a drunk, 1933 01:33:13.640 --> 01:33:16.439 and Rupert holds onto the gun and tells Brandon, I'm tired. 1934 01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:20.640 Brandon and I don't want to fence anymore. He's gonna 1935 01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:23.479 open the chest, and Brandon snarls at him, go ahead 1936 01:33:23.479 --> 01:33:26.560 and look. I hope you like what you see. And 1937 01:33:26.640 --> 01:33:30.520 Rupert throws the chest open and freezes in horror. And 1938 01:33:30.560 --> 01:33:33.239 Brandon tells Rupert to listen to him. Let me explain. 1939 01:33:33.560 --> 01:33:36.560 You'll understand because you agreed that the lives of inferior 1940 01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:39.720 beings are unimportant. And Rupert is all, how dare you 1941 01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:42.319 listen to what I said and repeat my exact words 1942 01:33:42.359 --> 01:33:44.159 back to me and then act upon the ideas that 1943 01:33:44.239 --> 01:33:46.359 I posited in the class I was teaching you? How 1944 01:33:46.439 --> 01:33:47.199 dare you? Sir? 1945 01:33:48.439 --> 01:33:50.359 Also? What class was this? 1946 01:33:50.359 --> 01:33:53.079 This? This was the class all night at his feet. 1947 01:33:52.960 --> 01:33:55.279 Like psychopathy one on one? 1948 01:33:55.399 --> 01:33:57.760 Look, you tell Brandon to choke on it enough, he's 1949 01:33:57.760 --> 01:34:02.520 eventually gonna project. Okay, okay, So he tells Brandon that 1950 01:34:02.520 --> 01:34:05.039 Brandon's given his words a meaning he never dreamed of. 1951 01:34:05.479 --> 01:34:08.479 He twisted them into a cold, logical excuse for murder, 1952 01:34:08.560 --> 01:34:11.279 which is exactly the thing I was doing. And you 1953 01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:14.600 twisted them somehow into the words that I said, meaning 1954 01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:15.840 what the words I said meant? 1955 01:34:16.039 --> 01:34:19.439 Brandon, I never wanted you to kill anyone. I'm Jimmy Stewart. 1956 01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:22.720 He has made Rupert ashamed of his previous concepts of 1957 01:34:22.760 --> 01:34:24.640 superior and inferior human beings. 1958 01:34:24.720 --> 01:34:28.239 It's almost like I was wrong, he gets. It's almost 1959 01:34:28.239 --> 01:34:29.600 like I was I was being hitler. 1960 01:34:29.720 --> 01:34:32.439 It's almost like this was Nazism breshed up in a 1961 01:34:32.479 --> 01:34:33.600 Jimmy Stewart package. 1962 01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:36.439 Like, look, do I agree with Nazis? Yes, but that 1963 01:34:36.479 --> 01:34:37.760 doesn't make me a bad person. 1964 01:34:39.199 --> 01:34:41.840 He gets real righteous for someone who figured this out 1965 01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:44.600 ten seconds ago when he actually saw a murdered body. 1966 01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:47.720 Now Rupert knows that each human is a separate being 1967 01:34:47.880 --> 01:34:51.439 with a right to think and live and work as individuals. 1968 01:34:51.680 --> 01:34:54.680 Unless you, I want theater tickets here, and fewer people 1969 01:34:54.680 --> 01:34:59.520 alive would help me get them. Rupert promises both Brandon 1970 01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:02.680 and Philip that they're going to die. I would have 1971 01:35:02.720 --> 01:35:04.399 been great if he shot them. That's how it's about 1972 01:35:04.439 --> 01:35:08.479 to happen. He goes to the window and fires three 1973 01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:12.159 shots into the air. He doesn't call the police, Nope, 1974 01:35:12.199 --> 01:35:16.239 he just fires three shots and then walks slowly to 1975 01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:19.239 sit next to the wooden chest. So, okay, four shots 1976 01:35:19.279 --> 01:35:21.680 have been fired, so there's two shots left in this gun. 1977 01:35:22.600 --> 01:35:25.199 I'm liking these boys' chances if they just run for it. 1978 01:35:25.239 --> 01:35:26.680 Here's no way he's going to hit both of them 1979 01:35:26.680 --> 01:35:28.640 with just two two bullets left in this gun. 1980 01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:30.840 What you don't know is that Rupert was also the 1981 01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:33.720 advisor to the Sharpshooters Club ha ha ha at their 1982 01:35:33.760 --> 01:35:34.399 prep school. 1983 01:35:35.399 --> 01:35:39.039 That's not what happens. Philip stands by the piano in shock, 1984 01:35:39.520 --> 01:35:43.880 and Brandon fixes himself one last drink before his freedom 1985 01:35:43.960 --> 01:35:49.319 is taken away. Sirens sound, and Philip and tones, they're coming. 1986 01:35:49.880 --> 01:35:53.039 And what's funny is you hear like adr background noises 1987 01:35:53.039 --> 01:35:53.720 where someone's like. 1988 01:35:53.640 --> 01:35:54.119 Was that a shot? 1989 01:35:54.159 --> 01:35:54.680 Those were shots? 1990 01:35:54.720 --> 01:35:55.279 Those are shots? 1991 01:35:55.279 --> 01:35:57.960 Called the police, Someone call the police. I'm like, I 1992 01:35:58.079 --> 01:36:01.880 have actually heard gunshots. And then like, I bet someone 1993 01:36:01.920 --> 01:36:02.479 will call the police. 1994 01:36:02.520 --> 01:36:03.359 I don't have to worry about that. 1995 01:36:03.600 --> 01:36:06.720 This is not my problem, not my problem. This is 1996 01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:09.439 absolutely I don't know where they came from. I don't 1997 01:36:09.439 --> 01:36:11.960 know who shot what what? If I even called the police, 1998 01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:14.760 it wouldn't fucking matter. So, you know what, not my problem. 1999 01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:20.199 That is how New Yorkers think. So Philip sits down 2000 01:36:20.439 --> 01:36:23.319 and he starts to plunk out notes on the piano 2001 01:36:23.760 --> 01:36:27.279 as Brandon SIPs his cocktail end of movie. 2002 01:36:28.039 --> 01:36:30.359 All right, I still think our ending was better. 2003 01:36:30.920 --> 01:36:34.960 Our ending is far more interesting. Honestly, Brandon and Rupert 2004 01:36:35.079 --> 01:36:41.119 double crossing David, sorry, double crossing Philip would have been excellent, chilling, 2005 01:36:41.279 --> 01:36:44.520 like absolutely excellent. You know it's not gonna happen as 2006 01:36:44.520 --> 01:36:48.720 they cast Jimmy Stewart, and Jimmy Stewart would absolutely absolutely 2007 01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:51.520 never agree to play a homicidal homosexual. 2008 01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:55.920 Too bad. All right, so everyone stick around. We're gonna 2009 01:36:55.920 --> 01:36:59.079 come right back with our random observations and final rankings. 2010 01:36:58.680 --> 01:37:10.560 For Rope, and we're back. 2011 01:37:10.720 --> 01:37:15.880 Paul tried not to murder me for five minutes because 2012 01:37:15.920 --> 01:37:19.359 I'll try you be you being a devious homosexual at all? 2013 01:37:19.479 --> 01:37:21.319 Uh huh yeh. 2014 01:37:20.800 --> 01:37:24.279 Yeh yep, but h and give me some random observations 2015 01:37:24.279 --> 01:37:25.039 on roupe. 2016 01:37:25.399 --> 01:37:29.479 Okay, So, when when Brandon and Rupert are having their 2017 01:37:29.520 --> 01:37:32.479 circle jerk about how they should kill inferior beings, one 2018 01:37:32.520 --> 01:37:34.600 of the little riffs that Rupert says, He's like, well, 2019 01:37:35.199 --> 01:37:37.239 you know, missus atwater, is there ever a time that 2020 01:37:37.279 --> 01:37:39.239 you want to get into a restaurant and you couldn't 2021 01:37:39.239 --> 01:37:41.640 well think how quickly a knife could solve that problem? 2022 01:37:41.800 --> 01:37:43.159 Just a quick flick of a knife. You just have 2023 01:37:43.199 --> 01:37:46.359 to step over the head waiter's body. Now we have 2024 01:37:46.399 --> 01:37:49.640 to think about these things. Murdering the headwaiter ain't gonna 2025 01:37:49.640 --> 01:37:50.279 get you a table. 2026 01:37:50.399 --> 01:37:51.880 Yeah, that's not gonna get your food to you. 2027 01:37:52.319 --> 01:37:57.000 To murder a diner, the matre d perhaps, maybe maybe 2028 01:37:57.039 --> 01:37:59.119 if they're being an asshole about it, but you're really 2029 01:37:59.279 --> 01:38:01.520 you want to murder a patron. 2030 01:38:01.239 --> 01:38:04.520 Yeah, murder a fellow died, obviously, obviously. 2031 01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:06.279 The problem with that, of course they're of your class 2032 01:38:06.279 --> 01:38:07.800 and you want to murder the lower classes. 2033 01:38:08.159 --> 01:38:12.680 That actually goes really, I would say beautifully, but with 2034 01:38:12.720 --> 01:38:15.840 another one of mine. Sit in that riff. He starts 2035 01:38:15.880 --> 01:38:19.079 talking about people who deserve death by slow torture. Did 2036 01:38:19.119 --> 01:38:21.960 you catch who they were? It's the most random fucking 2037 01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:25.000 assortment of people. Bird lovers. 2038 01:38:25.359 --> 01:38:29.920 Wow, Jesus, I thought, I was like, I can't believe 2039 01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:34.279 I missed that. Well because a he kind of did famously. 2040 01:38:33.920 --> 01:38:37.520 Did die by slow torture? No, no, no, He mentions 2041 01:38:37.760 --> 01:38:44.439 bird lovers, small children, tap dancers, and Paul hotel employees. Wow, 2042 01:38:44.600 --> 01:38:45.640 that hits you hard. 2043 01:38:46.239 --> 01:38:47.920 It hurts I am both a tap dancer and a 2044 01:38:47.960 --> 01:38:51.119 former A former tap dancer and a former hotel employer. 2045 01:38:52.159 --> 01:38:53.840 And I was once a small child. 2046 01:38:53.760 --> 01:38:55.960 And I actually loved birds when I was a small kid. 2047 01:38:56.000 --> 01:38:57.960 He is coming for me, He is coming for you. 2048 01:38:58.239 --> 01:39:03.600 Oh fuck you, Jimmy Stewart, Now to kill you, Paul Kola. 2049 01:39:04.119 --> 01:39:06.279 This is a really short one. It just made me laugh. 2050 01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:08.880 When Janet first walks in, she makes I can't remember 2051 01:39:08.920 --> 01:39:10.560 what the initial line is, but she makes some comment 2052 01:39:10.600 --> 01:39:12.600 and they all laugh. She's like, oh, I'm funny. I'm 2053 01:39:12.600 --> 01:39:15.199 never funny when I'm trying to be, I always fail 2054 01:39:15.199 --> 01:39:17.600 at jokes. And later I think Brandon is like, well, 2055 01:39:17.880 --> 01:39:19.800 what would you say to some champagne? And she goes, 2056 01:39:19.960 --> 01:39:23.199 hello champagne and no one laughs, and I'm like, that 2057 01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:27.439 was funny. She deserved to laugh on that because Joan 2058 01:39:27.640 --> 01:39:30.600 Chandler has this very old, tiny way of speaking. So 2059 01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:32.600 it's like hello champagne. 2060 01:39:32.760 --> 01:39:35.399 Yeah, and then there's like pause. She's like, see told you, 2061 01:39:35.479 --> 01:39:39.279 I'm not I'm not funny. There's a bit of like 2062 01:39:39.359 --> 01:39:42.199 a little easter egg that I really appreciated. They're talking 2063 01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:44.920 about just some movie they saw, you know, something, something 2064 01:39:44.960 --> 01:39:47.520 they don't want to name titles and like something something 2065 01:39:47.520 --> 01:39:50.560 they had Ingrid Bergman and Carrie Grant in It Something Something, 2066 01:39:50.600 --> 01:39:52.720 and I'm like, they are one hundred percent talking about 2067 01:39:52.800 --> 01:39:57.239 Hitchcock's movie right before this one, Notorious, starring Ingrid Bergman 2068 01:39:57.319 --> 01:39:58.840 and Carrie Grant, Excellent. 2069 01:39:59.239 --> 01:40:01.159 It's a whole riff that go on with Atwater and 2070 01:40:01.239 --> 01:40:04.680 Rupert really about like they can't remember the tell Something Something. 2071 01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:06.800 It's the something with the Something, It's it's very it's 2072 01:40:06.840 --> 01:40:07.560 very Who's on first? 2073 01:40:07.640 --> 01:40:10.560 They're basically naming old Hitchcock films, And I think, because 2074 01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:12.039 you know how he has this thing where he puts 2075 01:40:12.119 --> 01:40:15.079 himself in his movies, there's always a cameo. He obviously 2076 01:40:15.119 --> 01:40:16.760 can't do it in this one. Although it would have 2077 01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:21.119 been amazing just Hitchcock walking by on the balcony for 2078 01:40:21.159 --> 01:40:24.640 no reason, or like a Macy's Thanksgiving Day float, but 2079 01:40:24.680 --> 01:40:26.439 it's Hitchcock flying by the way. 2080 01:40:26.560 --> 01:40:28.600 The only opportunity have been the very first shot of 2081 01:40:28.640 --> 01:40:31.000 the movie, when they're looking down on the street. It's 2082 01:40:31.039 --> 01:40:32.279 the only time is. 2083 01:40:32.199 --> 01:40:35.239 A person crossing the street. I don't. I don't think 2084 01:40:35.239 --> 01:40:37.399 it was Hitchcock. I think it's I think it's a woman. 2085 01:40:37.520 --> 01:40:39.319 In my brain, it's a woman with kids. 2086 01:40:39.399 --> 01:40:41.039 I yeah, I agree, Yeah, that's it. 2087 01:40:41.399 --> 01:40:43.000 That would have been. I think this is his way 2088 01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:44.960 of putting himself in the movie. He's like, let's let 2089 01:40:44.960 --> 01:40:47.439 me do self referential things about my Oh sure. 2090 01:40:47.560 --> 01:40:51.439 Yeahh okay. So we did skip over one telling moment 2091 01:40:51.479 --> 01:40:53.359 about Brandon. It's not really I left it out of 2092 01:40:53.359 --> 01:40:55.079 the recap because we just need to talk about it, 2093 01:40:55.079 --> 01:40:57.560 but I'm going to put it in here. When Rupert's like, oh, 2094 01:40:57.600 --> 01:41:01.199 I remember you used to love to tell stories chests 2095 01:41:01.239 --> 01:41:03.800 in school. And then they go into this like this 2096 01:41:04.039 --> 01:41:06.680 myth about how, oh, there was this one time you 2097 01:41:06.760 --> 01:41:10.399 loved this story, Brandon, about how this young bride as 2098 01:41:10.439 --> 01:41:13.119 a lark locked herself in a chest, only it was 2099 01:41:13.159 --> 01:41:15.359 a spring latch, and then fifty years later they found 2100 01:41:15.359 --> 01:41:19.119 her skeleton. And I'm like, what you know? 2101 01:41:19.199 --> 01:41:20.840 That hilarious story. 2102 01:41:20.640 --> 01:41:23.600 That hilarious story, and you loved it. You would tell 2103 01:41:23.640 --> 01:41:26.319 it every chance you got that it was so funny. 2104 01:41:26.359 --> 01:41:29.199 This person got locked in a chest and then no 2105 01:41:29.239 --> 01:41:31.920 one found her or smelled her or mister her until 2106 01:41:31.960 --> 01:41:34.479 she had decomposed to a skeleton. 2107 01:41:34.279 --> 01:41:37.720 Fifty years later, two years later. This is why we 2108 01:41:37.760 --> 01:41:39.560 shouldn't have all boys schools. 2109 01:41:39.680 --> 01:41:40.039 That's right. 2110 01:41:40.399 --> 01:41:43.000 This is what happens when you send boys to prep school, 2111 01:41:43.399 --> 01:41:49.960 they get fucking weird, correct weird? All right, there is 2112 01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:53.239 a moment that that is very nineteen forty eight and 2113 01:41:53.359 --> 01:41:56.000 the best way Joan Chandler, I just needed this needs 2114 01:41:56.039 --> 01:42:01.079 to be said. Joan Chandler is a very slender, slender woman. 2115 01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:03.960 She is. She has one hundred pounds. If she is 2116 01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:04.960 anything at the bust. 2117 01:42:05.199 --> 01:42:07.119 She might weigh as much as the gown she's wearing, 2118 01:42:07.119 --> 01:42:07.680 but she might not. 2119 01:42:07.800 --> 01:42:09.800 She it's brocaded. It weighs more than her. 2120 01:42:09.960 --> 01:42:10.359 I know that. 2121 01:42:10.840 --> 01:42:13.479 So she's having like a little bit of snacks at 2122 01:42:13.479 --> 01:42:16.600 the party and Missus Wilson just walks up to her 2123 01:42:16.680 --> 01:42:21.800 and goes go easy on the patent. Dear calories, bitch, 2124 01:42:22.640 --> 01:42:25.199 mind your business. Let this woman needs some pataee if 2125 01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:25.640 she wants to. 2126 01:42:25.800 --> 01:42:28.239 But you know what, this actually dovetails perfectly into my 2127 01:42:28.279 --> 01:42:31.079 next one, because this is a proof that bitchery trickles down. 2128 01:42:31.600 --> 01:42:35.319 Because when missus Atwater walks in, they're talking about how 2129 01:42:35.359 --> 01:42:37.920 missus Kentley has a cold or whatever, and Missus Wilson 2130 01:42:38.239 --> 01:42:40.199 has the nerve to be like, oh, be careful. Having 2131 01:42:40.239 --> 01:42:43.399 a cold in the summer is awful. And the look 2132 01:42:43.560 --> 01:42:46.279 on Constance Collier's face or Collie. I don't know how 2133 01:42:46.279 --> 01:42:49.640 to say her last name. That this this servant woman 2134 01:42:50.399 --> 01:42:54.600 is offering an opinion and daring to speak to her. 2135 01:42:55.079 --> 01:43:02.399 It's like she smells dog shit. Missus Wilson, to her credit, 2136 01:43:02.479 --> 01:43:06.800 completely doesn't even notice. Yeah, but like the offense she 2137 01:43:06.920 --> 01:43:11.560 is taking at this woman is hilarious. All right, Erica, 2138 01:43:11.640 --> 01:43:15.039 how are we going to rank rope? One to ten? 2139 01:43:15.479 --> 01:43:18.239 Fondled champagne bottles, fondled to completion? 2140 01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:21.960 Honestly, is there a better metaphor for like male masturbation 2141 01:43:22.159 --> 01:43:24.239 that because it's like you fondle it and then it 2142 01:43:24.319 --> 01:43:26.399 pops and it's praise. 2143 01:43:26.159 --> 01:43:27.439 Everywhere, praise everywhere. 2144 01:43:27.560 --> 01:43:29.039 That is actually kind of brilliant. 2145 01:43:29.079 --> 01:43:29.600 It's perfect. 2146 01:43:29.720 --> 01:43:34.960 It's perfect. One to ten. You know, fruity little nut boys. 2147 01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:39.159 There are trail mix. It's fruit and nuts, raisins and cashies. 2148 01:43:39.680 --> 01:43:41.600 Those two little pine nuts. 2149 01:43:41.439 --> 01:43:42.840 Those two little coca nuts. 2150 01:43:42.840 --> 01:43:44.720 Oh, those two little coconuts. 2151 01:43:44.760 --> 01:43:45.279 Coconuts. 2152 01:43:45.439 --> 01:43:47.079 I know a coconut when I see one. 2153 01:43:47.800 --> 01:43:50.720 One to ten flounces of homosexuals. 2154 01:43:51.159 --> 01:43:53.640 That is the actual like, that is ten or more 2155 01:43:53.720 --> 01:43:55.000 homosexuals at a party. 2156 01:43:55.199 --> 01:43:56.640 You have a flound, you have a flounce. 2157 01:43:56.720 --> 01:44:00.199 Yeah, one to ten perfect. 2158 01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:02.199 Murders with no errors. 2159 01:44:01.920 --> 01:44:07.439 Perfect crimes committed by two geniuses. 2160 01:44:06.840 --> 01:44:09.920 Due to a perfect crime that is so perfect you 2161 01:44:09.960 --> 01:44:11.880 can actually tell people that you did it and they 2162 01:44:11.920 --> 01:44:16.600 still can't prove it. So perfect thought out plan to 2163 01:44:16.680 --> 01:44:18.359 the nth degree. 2164 01:44:18.119 --> 01:44:19.920 Absolutely flawless. 2165 01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:22.279 Yep. One to ten candelabras. 2166 01:44:24.039 --> 01:44:26.119 Grab a candelabra, follow me. 2167 01:44:28.399 --> 01:44:30.800 That is that's the battle cry for a gay army 2168 01:44:31.760 --> 01:44:32.439 the beaches. 2169 01:44:32.560 --> 01:44:38.319 Grab a candelabra. This one, this one, this one for sure? 2170 01:44:39.840 --> 01:44:41.119 Do you want to go first on this one? Or 2171 01:44:41.119 --> 01:44:42.239 shall I go first on this one? 2172 01:44:42.279 --> 01:44:43.920 Why don't you go first? Since I think this is 2173 01:44:43.920 --> 01:44:45.359 more your milieu. 2174 01:44:45.239 --> 01:44:46.319 My milieu, my midiu. 2175 01:44:46.439 --> 01:44:49.560 Indeed, it certainly doesn't pass the Bechdel test. 2176 01:44:49.600 --> 01:44:50.039 I'll give you. 2177 01:44:50.800 --> 01:44:53.199 I will give except for that moment where she fat 2178 01:44:53.279 --> 01:44:56.279 James were about calories. They're never not talking about David. 2179 01:44:56.279 --> 01:44:58.479 Oh yeah. And I was gonna say, missus Atwater does 2180 01:44:58.600 --> 01:45:02.960 talk to Janet about her horoscope, but that is technically 2181 01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:05.079 about a man, because it's just about it. You're gonna 2182 01:45:05.079 --> 01:45:07.720 marry my nephew. Yeah, yeah, so it doesn't count. It 2183 01:45:07.720 --> 01:45:10.279 doesn't pest the Bechdel test. No one should be surprised 2184 01:45:10.279 --> 01:45:14.439 to hear it. Okay, So again we have to kind 2185 01:45:14.439 --> 01:45:16.840 of grin on a curve here, this is nineteen forty 2186 01:45:16.880 --> 01:45:18.800 eight or something like that. There are no people of 2187 01:45:18.800 --> 01:45:21.680 color in this movie. I suppose it can be viewed 2188 01:45:21.680 --> 01:45:25.039 as maybe good that the lone person of color isn't 2189 01:45:25.119 --> 01:45:29.560 these isn't Missus Wilson. Absolutely, yeah, it's also I will say, 2190 01:45:29.920 --> 01:45:33.279 to the movie's credit, Missus Wilson has a character. Every 2191 01:45:33.319 --> 01:45:37.239 single character, Every single character in this film is an 2192 01:45:37.239 --> 01:45:40.840 individual who has their own take on things. Even Kenneth, 2193 01:45:40.880 --> 01:45:43.680 who I think is probably the smallest role. Yeah, Like 2194 01:45:44.159 --> 01:45:46.439 he's a real person with wants and needs. So like, 2195 01:45:46.640 --> 01:45:49.119 if it was the case that the sole person of 2196 01:45:49.119 --> 01:45:52.720 color was Missus Wilson, she would have stuff to play 2197 01:45:52.760 --> 01:45:54.520 that actors would have stuff to do, and would have 2198 01:45:54.600 --> 01:45:57.000 takes on things, and would have would get at least 2199 01:45:57.000 --> 01:45:59.680 the chance to act, as opposed to simply be set dressing. 2200 01:46:00.239 --> 01:46:03.079 But it's not. So this is really a hypothetical conversation 2201 01:46:03.119 --> 01:46:06.319 that we're having. Everyone in the cast is white, white, white, 2202 01:46:06.399 --> 01:46:10.880 except sometimes for Douglas Dick, who is gray's silver. Like 2203 01:46:10.920 --> 01:46:13.279 he looks like one of those robot people on the street. 2204 01:46:13.319 --> 01:46:16.760 That's like a living robot very odd. Again, it doesn't 2205 01:46:16.760 --> 01:46:19.239 pass the Bechdel test. But the female characters I think 2206 01:46:19.279 --> 01:46:23.159 are well drawn, and I think of the characters that 2207 01:46:23.239 --> 01:46:26.720 aren't the three leads, Janet is actually the one who's 2208 01:46:26.760 --> 01:46:29.640 kind of taking the most actions, Like she is confronting 2209 01:46:29.680 --> 01:46:32.520 Brandon repeatedly. She does get to have a little hutzpah. Yeah, 2210 01:46:32.520 --> 01:46:35.239 and Missus Atwater is really funny and very well performed. 2211 01:46:35.239 --> 01:46:37.199 So they're not like nothing characters. 2212 01:46:37.359 --> 01:46:38.760 No, they're great characters. 2213 01:46:38.840 --> 01:46:43.039 Actually. The gay stuff this is interesting because we do 2214 01:46:43.159 --> 01:46:48.720 have gay villains. The two leads of the movie are gay. Clearly, 2215 01:46:49.479 --> 01:46:52.000 it's possible third lead is gay. I think it's I 2216 01:46:52.079 --> 01:46:54.199 think it's very clear that the Jimmy Stewart character is 2217 01:46:54.199 --> 01:46:57.159 also homosexual. I don't know. Other people may disagree with 2218 01:46:57.199 --> 01:47:01.560 me on that. It is less apparent than with the 2219 01:47:01.560 --> 01:47:02.000 other two. 2220 01:47:02.479 --> 01:47:05.920 Wait, he's not actively living with another man, But I mean, 2221 01:47:06.159 --> 01:47:09.640 I think I think it's pretty clear. I think it's 2222 01:47:09.640 --> 01:47:10.199 pretty clear. 2223 01:47:10.279 --> 01:47:14.159 Yeah, so we do have a case of like two 2224 01:47:14.279 --> 01:47:17.720 gay men being one of them is a sociopath and 2225 01:47:17.760 --> 01:47:19.520 the other one is just so weak that he can't 2226 01:47:19.560 --> 01:47:24.399 stand up to his sociopathic boyfriend, essentially, which isn't a 2227 01:47:24.439 --> 01:47:28.119 great portrayal of the gay experience, but I do think 2228 01:47:28.159 --> 01:47:31.159 we are far enough a lot, Like I didn't watch 2229 01:47:31.159 --> 01:47:35.479 this and feel offended because of like like this is 2230 01:47:35.479 --> 01:47:37.319 what they're saying all gay men are like that. I 2231 01:47:37.359 --> 01:47:41.159 didn't have any of that. And in my interpretation, Jimmy 2232 01:47:41.159 --> 01:47:43.560 Stewart is also a gay man in this movie. I 2233 01:47:43.600 --> 01:47:45.159 am not yes, you are, yes. 2234 01:47:45.399 --> 01:47:48.800 Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. Come on, Jimmy, come. 2235 01:47:48.680 --> 01:47:50.359 On, Jimmy, you knew what you were doing. 2236 01:47:51.039 --> 01:47:56.159 Swish Jimmy, swish swish bish is that how you say it? 2237 01:47:57.479 --> 01:48:00.359 So, like the ostensible hero of the movie, he's also 2238 01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:03.079 a gay man in that interpretation. I don't think he's 2239 01:48:03.119 --> 01:48:05.119 a particularly intelligent gay man because he had all these 2240 01:48:05.239 --> 01:48:08.560 lofty ideas and ideals and never once like thought about 2241 01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:11.760 the actual like carrying out of them, and then taught 2242 01:48:11.880 --> 01:48:13.920 kids about them and they did them, and then he 2243 01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:16.359 was like, whoops, wasn't me? You know. So I don't 2244 01:48:16.359 --> 01:48:19.199 think he's not a huge hero either in this film. 2245 01:48:19.279 --> 01:48:22.439 But you know, I am certainly not left defended as 2246 01:48:22.439 --> 01:48:25.600 a gay man. And from the movie, it's very silly 2247 01:48:25.720 --> 01:48:28.840 at this point, like even though it is one of 2248 01:48:28.880 --> 01:48:32.439 the most horrifying on its face things that we have 2249 01:48:32.560 --> 01:48:37.600 ever seen. If you just say what happens the movie itself, 2250 01:48:38.319 --> 01:48:41.359 it's so big and kind of campy and a little 2251 01:48:41.359 --> 01:48:45.560 bit silly. The horror of that does not penetrate for 2252 01:48:45.640 --> 01:48:47.640 me when I was watching it. At least maybe other 2253 01:48:47.640 --> 01:48:50.800 people have a different experience. Ranking it on a curve, 2254 01:48:50.840 --> 01:48:54.520 I'm gonna rank it fairly high. It has gay representation. 2255 01:48:54.680 --> 01:48:56.800 It's not good gay representation, but does have it. In 2256 01:48:56.880 --> 01:49:00.119 nineteen forty eight, we are saying these people exist and 2257 01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:03.720 they can be accepted. They just shouldn't be because they're murderers. 2258 01:49:05.359 --> 01:49:10.079 A six. All right, I'm gonna The funny thing is, 2259 01:49:10.119 --> 01:49:11.600 I really don't know where Eric is gonna go with this. 2260 01:49:11.680 --> 01:49:13.039 She may be like, two, you. 2261 01:49:13.079 --> 01:49:16.279 Absolute monster, Are you trying to murder me? 2262 01:49:17.319 --> 01:49:20.079 I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a six out of ten. 2263 01:49:20.760 --> 01:49:20.840 Uh. 2264 01:49:21.079 --> 01:49:26.960 Candelabras, candelabras. I think it's a well made movie. I 2265 01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:29.680 wasn't offended by the gay portrayals because they are so 2266 01:49:29.760 --> 01:49:33.840 over the top that it's fine. It's like scar like basically, 2267 01:49:34.199 --> 01:49:36.560 which is more offensive because being pitched to kids, and 2268 01:49:36.600 --> 01:49:39.520 it's it's under the covers kind of whereas this is 2269 01:49:39.560 --> 01:49:42.239 I think as out of the covers as they could 2270 01:49:42.239 --> 01:49:45.199 be in nineteen forty eight. They're not trying to hide it. 2271 01:49:44.880 --> 01:49:47.880 It feels like a specific story about these people, not 2272 01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:51.039 about gay men at large. Maybe the fact they never 2273 01:49:51.079 --> 01:49:53.039 call them gay men is what's also helping with that. 2274 01:49:53.560 --> 01:49:55.199 No one's ever like, oh my god. 2275 01:49:56.800 --> 01:49:59.800 You know, I think in nineteen forty eight too, your 2276 01:50:00.079 --> 01:50:03.880 average audience member would maybe not pick up on a thing. 2277 01:50:03.880 --> 01:50:06.560 It could conceive it like like Arthur Laurence said, like 2278 01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:09.479 the people at the rating it didn't get it. The 2279 01:50:09.520 --> 01:50:10.720 sensors didn't get it. 2280 01:50:10.640 --> 01:50:13.800 It flew over their heads. So I think that's possible 2281 01:50:14.239 --> 01:50:16.840 that like, if you want to see yourself up on that. 2282 01:50:16.800 --> 01:50:19.439 Screen, yeah, if you want to If you. 2283 01:50:19.359 --> 01:50:21.000 Want to see yourself up on that screen like a 2284 01:50:21.079 --> 01:50:23.359 fucking psychopath, yeah, then sure. 2285 01:50:23.560 --> 01:50:27.319 Barley Granger is very good looking and available to you. 2286 01:50:27.600 --> 01:50:31.000 And exactly exactly. I have a question, actually, I was 2287 01:50:31.039 --> 01:50:34.000 just thinking about this. Would it have been more creepy 2288 01:50:34.039 --> 01:50:37.319 if we hadn't seen David. If we hear a scream 2289 01:50:37.800 --> 01:50:40.039 and we hear like a thump, right, and then the 2290 01:50:40.079 --> 01:50:43.199 camera cuts it inside the apartment and you have like 2291 01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:46.680 Brandon like like over the chest, going we've done it. 2292 01:50:46.680 --> 01:50:48.920 We've killed him, and now we've put him in this chest. 2293 01:50:49.159 --> 01:50:52.800 I think that the kind of goofiness of seeing the 2294 01:50:52.880 --> 01:50:54.800 murder takes a lot of the teeth out of the movie. 2295 01:50:54.880 --> 01:50:57.199 Yeah, because he's not that I would want to see this, 2296 01:50:57.279 --> 01:50:59.880 but like his lips aren't blue. He looks like someone 2297 01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:01.920 who has a tie on who fell asleep. 2298 01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:02.439 Yeah. 2299 01:51:02.560 --> 01:51:04.560 Yeah, And so I kind of wonder if we had 2300 01:51:04.600 --> 01:51:08.279 never seen the dead body, if it would actually be creepier, 2301 01:51:08.399 --> 01:51:10.840 not even if we hadn't seen the murder or whatever, 2302 01:51:11.119 --> 01:51:13.960 if it would actually be creepier. I think it would 2303 01:51:14.399 --> 01:51:17.159 actually one thing, also, there is something to be said 2304 01:51:17.159 --> 01:51:19.800 for and this is very insider baseball. A lot of 2305 01:51:19.840 --> 01:51:22.239 people who watch this movie maybe wouldn't know this, but 2306 01:51:22.279 --> 01:51:24.520 like there's something to be said for, like understanding like 2307 01:51:24.920 --> 01:51:28.079 who is making the project, huh, and like kind of 2308 01:51:28.079 --> 01:51:31.159 feeling comfortable in their hands. And so we'd said Arthur Lawrence, 2309 01:51:31.199 --> 01:51:36.359 the writer is gay. Farley Granger, the actor who plays Philip, 2310 01:51:36.760 --> 01:51:39.760 look him up. He is a very interesting. 2311 01:51:39.439 --> 01:51:40.439 Our bisexual King. 2312 01:51:40.560 --> 01:51:45.920 Farley Granger, openly bisexual in the forties and fifties, did 2313 01:51:45.960 --> 01:51:50.720 not give a fuck who knew about his proclivities. I 2314 01:51:50.840 --> 01:51:53.000 just love everything about him. The more I read about him, 2315 01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:53.359 the more. 2316 01:51:53.239 --> 01:51:55.159 I'm like, oh my god, I love I agree. I 2317 01:51:55.239 --> 01:51:58.039 enjoyed his Wikipedia page A great deal, a great deal. 2318 01:51:58.119 --> 01:52:00.640 And he's, like I said, very very good looking. So 2319 01:52:00.680 --> 01:52:03.600 it's it's it's just really fun. And then John Dall, 2320 01:52:03.680 --> 01:52:07.680 the actor who plays Brandon, was closeted. Probably we don't 2321 01:52:07.720 --> 01:52:10.239 know for sure one way or the other, Like casting 2322 01:52:10.279 --> 01:52:13.880 them can't can't be a full accident, right, like Hitchcock 2323 01:52:14.000 --> 01:52:16.720 and Lawrence and whoever else worked in the film produced 2324 01:52:16.760 --> 01:52:19.760 it must have been like I want actors who kind 2325 01:52:19.800 --> 01:52:23.119 of get it, get what we're doing, cos. 2326 01:52:22.720 --> 01:52:25.000 Like, well, Arthur, I want to know. Arthur's like, I 2327 01:52:25.039 --> 01:52:26.520 got it. Don't worry about I have a whole list. 2328 01:52:26.680 --> 01:52:33.560 Actually who had a really strong British ox. It was jollyy, 2329 01:52:33.640 --> 01:52:35.439 but it was also it was also a bit of 2330 01:52:35.439 --> 01:52:39.039 British and so yeah, I think there is something to 2331 01:52:39.039 --> 01:52:41.279 be said for who they cast. Now then they need 2332 01:52:41.279 --> 01:52:43.399 a star, right, and they get Jimmy Stewart, and Jimmy 2333 01:52:43.439 --> 01:52:50.039 Stewart's like, I will absolutely not play a homosexual. Don't 2334 01:52:50.039 --> 01:52:50.640 worry about it. 2335 01:52:50.760 --> 01:52:51.119 He's not. 2336 01:52:51.479 --> 01:52:55.399 He's just a confirmed bachelor. Jimmy wink wink, and Jimmy's like, fine, 2337 01:52:55.680 --> 01:52:57.960 I don't know. I feel really comfortable with this crew 2338 01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:00.399 of people, and I feel like they under they get it. 2339 01:53:00.640 --> 01:53:03.239 Very insidery baseball. Most people watching the movie would have 2340 01:53:03.239 --> 01:53:07.399 absolutely no idea about any of that. But I'm gonna 2341 01:53:07.399 --> 01:53:10.239 give you a five. Okay, I'm gonna give a five 2342 01:53:10.399 --> 01:53:16.720 out of ten. Grab a Candola brun follow me. Honestly, 2343 01:53:16.800 --> 01:53:20.199 I think our podcast age is worse than this film. 2344 01:53:20.479 --> 01:53:23.920 I think I think I am one more gay joke. Okay, 2345 01:53:24.039 --> 01:53:25.319 from getting canceled. 2346 01:53:25.039 --> 01:53:27.479 We are reclaiming. We are reclaiming. 2347 01:53:29.000 --> 01:53:32.159 I am a gay man everywhere, Like bitch, we gave 2348 01:53:32.199 --> 01:53:33.960 you twenty and you cash them all in? 2349 01:53:36.039 --> 01:53:38.880 No gayment everywhere? Like do more? 2350 01:53:39.159 --> 01:53:39.800 Do more? 2351 01:53:41.560 --> 01:53:43.159 This Valley of the dolls all over again? 2352 01:53:43.239 --> 01:53:43.800 It sure is? 2353 01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:44.079 It? 2354 01:53:44.159 --> 01:53:47.479 Sure is? Do you want to offer a palate cleanse? No? 2355 01:53:47.840 --> 01:53:49.560 I the only thing I could think of off the 2356 01:53:49.560 --> 01:53:53.199 top of my head. It's another Hitchcock film. No gay 2357 01:53:53.680 --> 01:53:56.279 undertones that I can think of, But Farley Granger is 2358 01:53:56.319 --> 01:53:58.159 in it, and he's far better in it. And so 2359 01:53:58.199 --> 01:54:00.000 if you want to just do more with Farley Green, 2360 01:54:00.279 --> 01:54:02.520 because who wouldn't want to do? Who would want to do? 2361 01:54:02.680 --> 01:54:02.960 All? 2362 01:54:03.000 --> 01:54:06.000 Go all the way with Barley Granger. He's in Strangers 2363 01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:08.760 on the Train and Strangers on a Train. Strangers on 2364 01:54:08.800 --> 01:54:12.800 a Train is fan fucking tastic. Okay, it's a great 2365 01:54:12.920 --> 01:54:15.960 another great. It's actually a far far better thriller than 2366 01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:18.880 this movie. Yeah, and it's got some like actually very 2367 01:54:18.960 --> 01:54:22.159 chilling thriller moments where you're like, what's going to happen? Okay, 2368 01:54:22.279 --> 01:54:24.199 So would I would recommend Strangers in a Train? 2369 01:54:24.319 --> 01:54:24.680 Fair enough? 2370 01:54:24.680 --> 01:54:25.960 If you're into this, how about you? 2371 01:54:26.439 --> 01:54:28.279 No, I think you can watch Rope. Hey, it's we 2372 01:54:28.319 --> 01:54:31.199 didn't even mention this hour and twenty minutes. Yeah, in 2373 01:54:31.319 --> 01:54:34.039 and out, bing bang boom. I love it all right, 2374 01:54:34.159 --> 01:54:37.760 So that is Erica. As they say, the end of 2375 01:54:37.760 --> 01:54:38.159 our show. 2376 01:54:38.239 --> 01:54:38.920 That is the end of it. 2377 01:54:39.079 --> 01:54:41.640 That's the end of it. Everyone listening can follow us 2378 01:54:41.640 --> 01:54:44.159 on Twitter, on threads, and on Instagram, which is the 2379 01:54:44.159 --> 01:54:47.239 only platform where I post the monthly themes before they 2380 01:54:47.239 --> 01:54:50.159 come out, and we accept request specifically on those themes. 2381 01:54:50.600 --> 01:54:52.279 We have a tea public shop you can pick up 2382 01:54:52.319 --> 01:54:55.600 podcast swag if you are a Spotify user. Spotify now 2383 01:54:55.600 --> 01:54:59.000 allows for comments that I can respond to, so comment away, 2384 01:54:59.279 --> 01:55:00.640 and we would love but if you would leave a 2385 01:55:00.720 --> 01:55:02.720 five story of you on Apple Podcasts or on any 2386 01:55:02.760 --> 01:55:05.119 podcasting platform that you may use. If you do that, 2387 01:55:05.520 --> 01:55:08.319 just like Bizzolina from the top of this episode, and 2388 01:55:08.399 --> 01:55:10.239 let us know that you did, we will send you 2389 01:55:10.279 --> 01:55:12.039 a that age Well tote bag. 2390 01:55:12.239 --> 01:55:15.239 That age Well is produced and edited by Paul Kola. 2391 01:55:15.640 --> 01:55:18.239 A real brazil nut if I ever saw one, that 2392 01:55:18.399 --> 01:55:20.319 was it? That was it? Cancel buttons are being pushed 2393 01:55:20.600 --> 01:55:22.079 like we're done. We're done with you. 2394 01:55:22.760 --> 01:55:24.359 Only because you repeated brazil nut. 2395 01:55:24.520 --> 01:55:28.840 That's true. If I used to say a real macademia, 2396 01:55:30.720 --> 01:55:33.680 real cash, you are not sure real cash you have 2397 01:55:33.720 --> 01:55:34.399 ever saw one? 2398 01:55:34.760 --> 01:55:35.039 You know what? 2399 01:55:35.119 --> 01:55:35.600 Canceled me. 2400 01:55:35.640 --> 01:55:36.239 I deserve it. 2401 01:55:36.319 --> 01:55:40.520 I deserve it. We would like to thank Sharon Kay, 2402 01:55:40.880 --> 01:55:44.279 Matt Luis and Anika for reaching out and letting us 2403 01:55:44.319 --> 01:55:46.840 know what they want to hear. If you want to 2404 01:55:46.840 --> 01:55:48.600 have a say in the topics we discussed, you can 2405 01:55:48.680 --> 01:55:51.520 join our Patreon. Every patron gets to vote in an 2406 01:55:51.520 --> 01:55:54.439 exclusive monthly poll to determine one of our subjects. We 2407 01:55:54.600 --> 01:55:58.760 have Diva versus a Diva up right. 2408 01:55:58.600 --> 01:56:01.399 Now, not right now, it's already done well. 2409 01:56:01.279 --> 01:56:02.720 But it's up there on the Patreon people could have 2410 01:56:02.760 --> 01:56:06.439 voted for it. Yeah, yeah, I am in the past. 2411 01:56:06.479 --> 01:56:08.600 I'm not in the future yet. I don't know who's 2412 01:56:08.600 --> 01:56:10.880 gonna win, but I am dying to see if it's 2413 01:56:10.920 --> 01:56:12.560 a born Burner. I think it will be. 2414 01:56:12.720 --> 01:56:13.560 I think Saliah. 2415 01:56:13.600 --> 01:56:16.119 So head on over to patreon dot com slash that 2416 01:56:16.199 --> 01:56:18.359 Aged Well podcast to find out more. 2417 01:56:18.600 --> 01:56:21.920 Speaking of which, certain tears in our Patreon come with 2418 01:56:21.960 --> 01:56:25.640 a thanks for a podcast character and little public service announcement. 2419 01:56:25.720 --> 01:56:28.199 If you are at the five or ten dollars level, 2420 01:56:28.199 --> 01:56:29.600 we do owe you a thank you, and you have 2421 01:56:29.680 --> 01:56:32.000 a message in Patreon asking you to let us know 2422 01:56:32.159 --> 01:56:34.039 how you would like to be thanked. So please let 2423 01:56:34.119 --> 01:56:35.920 us know what you would like so we can do 2424 01:56:35.960 --> 01:56:39.720 that for you. But today we are hearing from a 2425 01:56:39.760 --> 01:56:43.399 grand Dame, a figure so towering that the Tower of 2426 01:56:43.439 --> 01:56:47.119 Babel itself crumbles at her feet. I don't know what 2427 01:56:47.159 --> 01:56:49.399 I'm saying anymore. This is our third one in two days. 2428 01:56:49.399 --> 01:56:52.159 Guysopy, my friend, we. 2429 01:56:52.079 --> 01:56:55.319 Are hearing from one Miss Catherine Hepburn. 2430 01:56:55.960 --> 01:57:02.000 Thank you, Pepe. Hello, everybody, it's me Pal Catherine Heppen. 2431 01:57:02.760 --> 01:57:07.319 I am here to thank Jeff for listening to that age. Well, 2432 01:57:07.920 --> 01:57:12.000 you have excellent taste in podcast, Jeff, just like I 2433 01:57:12.079 --> 01:57:16.760 have excellent taste in cocktails. Oh, I see a cocktail 2434 01:57:16.880 --> 01:57:20.479 being brought over to me. Now, my good friend Jimmy 2435 01:57:20.520 --> 01:57:25.359 Stewart is here in lieu of Spencer. Spencer threw out 2436 01:57:25.479 --> 01:57:32.159 his back and has been laying prostrate all morning. Hello Jimmy, 2437 01:57:33.239 --> 01:57:37.960 Hi Catherine, it's me Jimmy Stuart. I've brought you a 2438 01:57:38.000 --> 01:57:42.359 Backdoor lemonade, which is a fully real drink that Paul 2439 01:57:42.439 --> 01:57:47.239 and Erica found on the internet. It's made with moonshine, 2440 01:57:47.319 --> 01:57:53.439 sour mix, ginger syrup, and lemon wedges and joy. Oh, 2441 01:57:53.600 --> 01:57:57.680 I thank you, Jimmy. This reminds me of the time 2442 01:57:57.760 --> 01:58:02.199 we were making the Philadelphia Star and you and Folly 2443 01:58:02.319 --> 01:58:07.279 Granger visited me and my trailer and we drank backdoor 2444 01:58:07.479 --> 01:58:11.920 Lemonades all day long, and then you and Folly had 2445 01:58:11.960 --> 01:58:16.520 your away with me. Catherine. Don't share that story. Oh 2446 01:58:16.600 --> 01:58:22.039 forget it, Jimmy. It's the nineties. Anything goes. I guess 2447 01:58:22.119 --> 01:58:27.359 Jimmy's right, It's a story for another time. Just suffice 2448 01:58:27.439 --> 01:58:31.840 it to say that Folly really knows how to granger 2449 01:58:31.960 --> 01:58:36.520 a gal. Well, I'm off, thank you for listening, and 2450 01:58:36.760 --> 01:58:43.680 thank you to Jimmy for his excellent bartending. You're welcome, Catherine, Catherine, 2451 01:58:43.880 --> 01:58:45.279 take your hand off my crotch. 2452 01:58:45.560 --> 01:58:48.000 You know what, anytime you think you've found the bottom 2453 01:58:48.039 --> 01:58:49.000 of her stories, you haven't. 2454 01:58:49.319 --> 01:58:53.800 No, she is a well of history, my friend. She 2455 01:58:54.000 --> 01:58:57.520 is a well of classic Hollywood history. 2456 01:58:57.680 --> 01:58:58.199 True story. 2457 01:58:58.439 --> 01:59:01.720 We will never get to the bottom of never ever, never, ever, ever, 2458 01:59:02.079 --> 01:59:03.920 no matter how much we try. 2459 01:59:03.960 --> 01:59:07.479 From your lips to God's ears, as they say, Erica, 2460 01:59:07.520 --> 01:59:09.880 any final thoughts on rope, cat. 2461 01:59:09.760 --> 01:59:12.760 And mouseball, cat and mouse. 2462 01:59:12.960 --> 01:59:15.319 Grab your candelabrun follow me. 2463 01:59:22.960 --> 01:59:29.880 Hey, I'm Paul and America and this is Tuberculosis Corner. 2464 01:59:32.479 --> 01:59:35.600 This is Nicole kidman in the middle of Mulan Rouge.