Speaker 1: Yo, what's up everybody, and welcome to a brand new
Speaker 1: episode of The Hot Mike.
Speaker 2: Here I am here on the John Roka channel.
Speaker 1: I am John Roca. Join us always by the inside herself.
Speaker 1: Jeff's not Hawaii and Jeff.
Speaker 2: Hello, Johnny boy. We took a good see it man.
Speaker 2: You took last week off.
Speaker 1: You got to relax, a little rest, hanging out with
Speaker 1: the family. How are you feeling refreshed three weeks away
Speaker 1: from la Where are you at right now?
Speaker 2: Man? Good to go home, get some time with the family.
Speaker 2: Stuck up on some merch. Hello, look at that little
Speaker 2: logo I got insider So yeah. Good to see the fan,
Speaker 2: see my my beautiful nieces. Oh yes, I took them
Speaker 2: to see toy story five. I got some time on
Speaker 2: the beach, a lot of fool time. I was jumping
Speaker 2: a pool. Rich. If you gotta have a friend with
Speaker 2: a pool, If you're out there right now and you're
Speaker 2: at home and it's the summer and you don't never
Speaker 2: have with the pool, you better go make one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, where else are you gonna do your Instagram
Speaker 1: stories from? If it's not from a pool, for sure?
Speaker 1: I mean those were good stories you were dropping there
Speaker 1: Jeff for sure having some fun. So I'm it's great
Speaker 1: to see you back, man. We're excited. It's a lot
Speaker 1: to cover here, including some of the stuff you talked
Speaker 1: about this week. We're going to get into some of
Speaker 1: your stories as well here on the show. We got
Speaker 1: so much to talk about, going to get in big
Speaker 1: stuff with the Odyssey, Spider Man, Brand New Day, all
Speaker 1: Stoff going on with DC, talk about there's so much,
Speaker 1: there's so much, so so yeah. So just reminded the
Speaker 1: stream labs and super chats are open. I already have
Speaker 1: seven super chats here. Thank you so much. Keep sending
Speaker 1: them in as we go along. We're gonna answer them
Speaker 1: at the end of the show, but.
Speaker 2: Let's start off.
Speaker 1: We like, like that's a little bit stub before we
Speaker 1: get into the big stuff. This just dropped as we
Speaker 1: were starting the show. Jeff, I'm not sure if you
Speaker 1: saw this news, but apparently Free Willie is getting a
Speaker 1: remake at Warner Brothers, a reimagining show. We say at
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers, Mary Margaret Kunz and Jade Hailey Bartlett, is
Speaker 1: it a requirement of three names nowadays? They will write
Speaker 1: the new take on the nineteen ninety three adventure film
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers, Rooster Brothers Agbo are partnering on a reimagining
Speaker 1: of it. Of course you know about that film, for
Speaker 1: God's sakes, but this is such an interesting situation. They'll
Speaker 1: be producer, with Anthony and Joe Russo executive producing as well,
Speaker 1: and the Agbo slate includes a John Rambo movie with
Speaker 1: Centennio and the Robert Tinio crime Thrill, The Whisper Man,
Speaker 1: Marvel Avengers, Doomsday, and the Third Extraction film. So have
Speaker 1: we been clamoring for a Free Willie remake or reimagining?
Speaker 1: Have we lost touch with the Killer Whales? What's your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this?
Speaker 2: I've been trying to free Willy for a long time. Okay,
Speaker 2: there it is. I mean one of it is just
Speaker 2: like mean I did like these movies, sure, sure, I
Speaker 2: like them. I mean it's all about finding the right kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah Whale and you know who this is a perfect
Speaker 2: vehicle for. I gotta say, what happens next May after
Speaker 2: Starfighter comes out and you need a vehicle for a
Speaker 2: kid named Flynn Gray.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point.
Speaker 2: That's what you do with this, That's a good idea.
Speaker 1: Amy Adams has been talking him up all doing her
Speaker 1: own press tours. So she said how much she enjoyed
Speaker 1: working with Flynn, So why not that makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense.
Speaker 2: You keep him in family, you have him do Disney's
Speaker 2: Free Willing Is.
Speaker 1: The whale a trained whale? Or is the whale?
Speaker 2: C g I is at ai?
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the whale? Jeff? What kind
Speaker 1: of whale are we going to get?
Speaker 2: We get Brendon Frasier, Oh, my god, the whale? Or
Speaker 2: or the little boy from Mike? Jimmy says, who who? Leonovaldi?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you could do that. Sure, that'd be a
Speaker 1: good interesting take, for sure.
Speaker 2: I actually like the idea of like a black family. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and free Willie and like that could be interesting.
Speaker 1: Free William what.
Speaker 2: But like, uh, I don't know this makes sense. I
Speaker 2: have questions that I need more family films that aren't
Speaker 2: like The Sky Alien Invasion, Just like, give me something
Speaker 2: a little wholesome like this, Yes, balls coming out this
Speaker 2: this film. Maybe Wales are gonna be hot again after
Speaker 2: this movie.
Speaker 1: Wales are the thing nowadays. That's a great point, for sure.
Speaker 1: I also think you know you're right to hit the
Speaker 1: family aspect of it all. We're seeing, you know, some
Speaker 1: of these films that have a little more of the
Speaker 1: traditional family values type of approach or political bent. You
Speaker 1: see that were Young Washington over performing like crazy at
Speaker 1: the box office. So certainly the family idea, the idea
Speaker 1: of come back to family, re embracing that stuff, getting
Speaker 1: people back into theater, that makes sense, you know so much. Yes,
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think this is a fascinating situation.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how it all comes down. What all right?
Speaker 1: So what is this? This just also popped up? Oh,
Speaker 1: it's an animated Friday the Thirteenth animated horror comedy from
Speaker 1: Dan Tracktenberg sets a twenty twenty eight release date.
Speaker 2: Anything to say on that, Jeff? What? Yeah, Larry, let
Speaker 2: me bring it up.
Speaker 1: On the screen.
Speaker 2: There we can the bloody disgusting.
Speaker 1: It's a Paramount Picture's forthcoming animated feature based on the
Speaker 1: comic Friday the thirteenth. Friday thirteenth. Oh, sorry, Freddy, not Friday.
Speaker 1: There you go. It just popped up. But what do
Speaker 1: you want from me? It's a family horror comedy. There
Speaker 1: you go, Jeff, again, family films. Is this where we're going?
Speaker 1: Is this where we're going?
Speaker 2: Man, No, I think this is going to be a
Speaker 2: development project. Okay, alright, well not like I just.
Speaker 1: Thought.
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I wasn't bowled over by that announcement. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Let's move on to one of your stories here.
Speaker 1: Let's let's hit this one right off the bat. Pe
Speaker 1: uh b for Vendetta is not happening at Warner Bus
Speaker 1: with Peter Jackson's script. At least you reported on this.
Speaker 2: And wait, wait a second, bring it down, Bring it down.
Speaker 2: You're moving too quickly, buddy, Okay, go ahead. Pete Pete
Speaker 2: Jackson is not Peter Jackson.
Speaker 1: It looks the same to me. I mean, you say,
Speaker 1: you know Pete Jackson's Peter Jackson.
Speaker 2: No, Peter Jackson is Peter Jackson. Nobody calls him Pete.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't call it Pete Jackson is another writer.
Speaker 2: So let's just clear that up right now. They didn't
Speaker 2: pass on Jackson. Pete Jackson did this BAT denominated series
Speaker 2: somewhere boy. He also did the Death of Bunny mon
Speaker 2: Roe with Nick Cave. Oh that's a good one. I
Speaker 2: like death, But yeah, I didn't see it, but it
Speaker 2: was on the radar. They can't they hired this guy
Speaker 2: November to write me for Vendetta. It sounds like they
Speaker 2: really maybe weren't on the same page creatively. I never
Speaker 2: really understand this, where like somebody talked like I was
Speaker 2: told he turned in like a period a period themed
Speaker 2: sort of piece.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's my issue. Reading your piece is like,
Speaker 1: how do they not tell him what they want and
Speaker 1: let him go right? And they go like, you know what, maybe.
Speaker 2: If they if they you know, oh, we got to
Speaker 2: work with this, or he's a great writer, go do
Speaker 2: whatever you want. He turns it in and they're like, actually,
Speaker 2: it's not what we wanted after all. I have no
Speaker 2: idea all that shit, right, because like you know, it's
Speaker 2: like it's pitched one way to me. Initially is like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, the showrunner exited because he couldn't line up
Speaker 2: you know, the creative vision. And then network is like,
Speaker 2: it's not it wasn't a creative differences. We just passed
Speaker 2: on it. Yeah, isn't passing on a script? I mean,
Speaker 2: you're it's a creative difference, Like, I don't know whatever.
Speaker 2: They basically reserve the right to redevelop this project down
Speaker 2: the line with another writer. Yeah, this wasn't the take
Speaker 2: that they were looking for. I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: become you know, too hot button a thing now that
Speaker 2: they're being bought. You know, it's right, right, all the
Speaker 2: government's feathers. Yeah, I mean v for Vendetta, it wasn't
Speaker 2: like a huge movie. It grows like one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars.
Speaker 1: Back in the Yeah, yeah, so like a hit.
Speaker 2: You know, it did well, but it's not like we
Speaker 2: need a TV show about it. And I do think
Speaker 2: you'd have to kind of do something radically different to
Speaker 2: distinguish it from the movie. So I'm not surprised that
Speaker 2: HBO passed on this script at this time. I also
Speaker 2: don't think this should really be a priority for DC
Speaker 2: right now. It's like, dude, we don't have Wonder Woman, Like,
Speaker 2: let's get it together before we start putting together for
Speaker 2: Vendetta shows.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a good point. That's a good point.
Speaker 1: You don't want that for sure. And yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is p Jackson, as I said from the beginning,
Speaker 1: the writer here, this is this is the guy, not
Speaker 1: Peter Jackson. This is the Peachjacks you're talking.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean it's odd to.
Speaker 1: Me reading your story like how they wouldn't do this,
Speaker 1: But you're right, maybe they kicking the can down the
Speaker 1: road and I just don't know that they would walk
Speaker 1: into this right now until the merger is over, and
Speaker 1: how would they want to handle this situation. By the way,
Speaker 1: a few state attorney generals are going to file lawsuit,
Speaker 1: according to numerous reports, next week for this paramount situation.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that all shakes out. Which will
Speaker 1: be solved first the paramount? What about the situation of
Speaker 1: the Kawhi Leonard aspiration situation? This is is I feel
Speaker 1: like both of them are up in the air right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question actually, so we'll see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: A little bit of an inter sing d C updates.
Speaker 2: So that was one of the d C updates that
Speaker 2: I got this week from a source.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you want to talk about the other one yet?
Speaker 2: Or what's the second one's Do we want to talk
Speaker 2: about the main one, the gorilla?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about the MABE because that actually that's
Speaker 1: actually out there. And if you've got something new to drop,
Speaker 1: then I think we should.
Speaker 2: I haven't, so okay, go ahead, here's what I'll say. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about Rilla Grod in the second, but
Speaker 2: I basically got you know, somebody reached out Gorilla Grod.
Speaker 2: Jimmy Tantroy told me a little bit about this be
Speaker 2: for Vendetta situation. Yeah, in me a third thing, And
Speaker 2: that third thing was I was going to share with you,
Speaker 2: as I put in the newsletter, the news you drop
Speaker 2: a pretty hot rumor. Source reached out since then and
Speaker 2: asked me to sit tight for a beat. And that
Speaker 2: is the name of the game. If it's your if
Speaker 2: you're the source, you're the quarterback. You decide how the
Speaker 2: ball gets thrown. And wait. So I am going to
Speaker 2: sit on that third thing that they gave me. However, Okay,
Speaker 2: since I don't want you to just make promises and
Speaker 2: then not keep them, Yes, and reiterate, corroborate if you will,
Speaker 2: my recent report that there is a poison ivy series
Speaker 2: WHOA works within the Reeves universe. Okay, so I don't
Speaker 2: think that's news because we've sort of already talked about
Speaker 2: it on this podcast, but they did reiterate that that
Speaker 2: is a real thing.
Speaker 1: So underlining it a few times.
Speaker 2: Thing, Yeah, you'll just have to wait a little bit
Speaker 2: a while longer, maybe okay, two or three weeks.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right. Someone just asked where they get your sweater. Jeff,
Speaker 1: here's the merch link. It is in the murdered copy
Speaker 1: and paste and go get something.
Speaker 2: In the description and in the subscription.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just want to make sure it's out there
Speaker 1: for people get stuff.
Speaker 2: First final You don't have to be I mean you
Speaker 2: have to subscribe to the newsletter or just you know,
Speaker 2: go online to get it. But it's all it's all
Speaker 2: in that first sentence. There you go.
Speaker 1: It's all there in that first sentence. Yeah, all right. Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about your Gorilla Grod story here, Jimmy tatro
Speaker 1: I saw some I saw some news outlets try and
Speaker 1: take credit for your story here, Jeff, But I you
Speaker 1: were the first person I saw in this. We had
Speaker 1: talked about it last week, even uh that you had
Speaker 1: you were sitting on this and waiting to drop it.
Speaker 1: And there it is. Jimmy tatrou In talks to play
Speaker 1: Gorilla Grod in the Jimmy Olsen series. Some people you
Speaker 1: seem to be really excited about it. Some people on
Speaker 1: the heels of Supergirl crashing and burning at the box office,
Speaker 1: and we'll get to the dramatic story that was written
Speaker 1: last week. Uh said that it's it's it's DC not
Speaker 1: learning the lesson, and here they go again doing the
Speaker 1: small stuff.
Speaker 2: So what are your thoughts on this? What are your
Speaker 2: thoughts on this? I've always liked this guy. Yeah, I'd
Speaker 2: liked him since American Vandal.
Speaker 1: Mhmm.
Speaker 2: I think he's kind of perfect for Gorilla Grod. Right,
Speaker 2: you don't need a big name as that care. No, No,
Speaker 2: he is not gonna he's a rising star. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: has a good voice, he has good comic timing. He
Speaker 2: knows the American Vandal guys. Obviously they have that connection
Speaker 2: because they're the ones doing the show, right. I just
Speaker 2: think he's kind of like a good foil for Skylar Jizondo. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I really like this casting. I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 2: I I assume he'll be doing like the the mocap
Speaker 2: if that's what they're If that's the way they're making
Speaker 2: this imagine so uh but yeah, I just like this
Speaker 2: this whole idea of the show, right, I don't know
Speaker 2: if it will be called DC Crime ultimately. People were
Speaker 2: pointing me to something James Gunn and said that he
Speaker 2: would never let it be called DC crime. I don't know,
Speaker 2: be called villain as a sort of hat tip to
Speaker 2: a American vandal. But either way, I like this outside
Speaker 2: the box approach to a Superman spinoff. I don't need
Speaker 2: the terrific show right away. This is a little bit different.
Speaker 2: It speaks to, you know, the true crime craze. I
Speaker 2: like this mockumentary approach, especially with someone like Sky or Jizondo. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know front Center.
Speaker 1: Well does it also fly under the radar, because like,
Speaker 1: no one's going to look at this series and be like, well,
Speaker 1: if this doesn't work, James Guns in trouble, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. There's not that kind of energy probably
Speaker 1: around a series like this, whereas Lanterns, people are already
Speaker 1: kind of like wondering if this is going to be
Speaker 1: good or not. And then you've got Clayface coming and
Speaker 1: of course Mana tomorrow, So there's already this conversation over
Speaker 1: the last few days about like where James Gun's status
Speaker 1: is at DC. So something like this is more of
Speaker 1: a toss off for fun thing. Yes, you're you're entering
Speaker 1: introducing a villain's going to be in the cannon, but
Speaker 1: it's I don't think the expectations are quite the same,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: I mean that's sort of what I want to address today,
Speaker 2: like a lot of sky is falling type of writing.
Speaker 2: You know, Boris delivered a very level headed assessment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about it.
Speaker 2: A great post mortem article on Friday. Yeah yeah, like
Speaker 2: you know, right ahead of the holiday weekend two like perfect,
Speaker 2: Like obviously this is bad. There's no way to spin this, no, right,
Speaker 2: But it's not all on James and Peter, Like, we
Speaker 2: got to give some of the blame to Craig Gillespie,
Speaker 2: who just you know, pitched a big bold take and
Speaker 2: kind of like struck out. You know, maybe he maybe
Speaker 2: he ultimately wasn't the right hire, but like you know,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna lay it all at his feet because
Speaker 2: he's working within the machinery of d C and has
Speaker 2: to within certain boundaries. But like, you know, certainly some
Speaker 2: of the blame lies with him.
Speaker 1: Okay, how do you how do you figure?
Speaker 2: Can you mean he's the director?
Speaker 1: Hold on?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But but here's the deal. He's a director for hire.
Speaker 1: Jeff Right, They hired the writer before they hired him,
Speaker 1: and they hired Millie Alcock before they hired him, so
Speaker 1: they basically brought him into direct stuff that he didn't
Speaker 1: have any hand in. And so how much of the
Speaker 1: I understand he's his job is still to you know,
Speaker 1: bring the ship to port, kind of like Gareth Edwards
Speaker 1: did with Jurassic World Man eight hundred and something million dollars,
Speaker 1: but in this case didn't quite get it done. But
Speaker 1: there was a lot of drama going on behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: and at some point Greig Gillespie is having to fight
Speaker 1: for anything to be put in his movie. I do
Speaker 1: think he's blame. I'm not saying it doesn't blame, but
Speaker 1: I also think like he was handed in a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff that he didn't choose. So how much of
Speaker 1: this is he responsible for in the end? You know?
Speaker 1: I wonder.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, certainly a percentage, you know, I
Speaker 2: guess it's all on any one individual. I think I
Speaker 2: think the big thing from what I gathered because I
Speaker 2: haven't seen the movie, but I thought Devin Feraci wrote
Speaker 2: a great piece. Did you read that?
Speaker 1: No, I did not read piece.
Speaker 2: I thought he read a great piece of Just like,
Speaker 2: who's this for? Right? Young girls? They should have made
Speaker 2: a Supergirl for young girls? And you know what young
Speaker 2: girls like, they're like cute boys, you know, and there's
Speaker 2: no quill he always boy in this movie, right, Lobo,
Speaker 2: you know is supposed to be the cute boy in
Speaker 2: a way. Yeah, like that's why people love Spider Man.
Speaker 2: Cute boy who's a nice guy, who's India wants to
Speaker 2: take home, you know, right right. I thought it was
Speaker 2: an interesting observation, and obviously for actually had a bunch
Speaker 2: of other points as to why the movie doesn't work,
Speaker 2: and just like on a conceptual level, and some of
Speaker 2: that doesn't have to do with James Gunn's taste, but
Speaker 2: he also just thought Gillespie was, you know, a poor fit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, I mean Drew mcweeney commented on my tweet
Speaker 1: and said, like, I would take the worst James Gunn
Speaker 1: film over the best Craig Gillespie film, which I thought
Speaker 1: was I did not agree with that. You know, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't take some other I wouldn't take some other over Itania,
Speaker 1: you know, or super over Itania, you know. And so
Speaker 1: I don't callte gorilla even I don't quite see that,
Speaker 1: but I think that's a fair point what Farachi is saying.
Speaker 1: Who's this for? I think that's what you look at
Speaker 1: a little bit when you pull back, is this was
Speaker 1: the wrong decision to lead Supergirl with this story. This
Speaker 1: story is so dark, so dramatic, full of trauma, and
Speaker 1: then you're adding child bride stuff, You're adding child trafficking
Speaker 1: stuff to this whole thing. This is not I think
Speaker 1: what people were wanting from a first Supergirl movie. I
Speaker 1: think you got establisher. So maybe an origin movie, because
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of origin movies. There's only one
Speaker 1: for Supergirl. Really, I don't know how much of an
Speaker 1: origin movie it actually is. So you established that first,
Speaker 1: then the second film can be a little darker. You
Speaker 1: can play with Women of Tomorrow in the second film.
Speaker 1: So this is on Gun in terms of this is
Speaker 1: the story he wanted to adapt. If you go back
Speaker 1: and watch that video, he said Woman of Tomorrow, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a massive sci fi action epic. He wanted
Speaker 1: to do this story. So that's on him, and he
Speaker 1: did choose Gillespie.
Speaker 2: So blame James and Peter for trying to fix that
Speaker 2: movie right like it can get spun into. They're forcing
Speaker 2: certain decisions on them. If their decisions are testing better,
Speaker 2: you know, that's that's that's a democratic sort of way
Speaker 2: to do it, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The question, though, Jeff, is why did they stop tinkering
Speaker 1: with it and then just go like, well, here are
Speaker 1: the two cuts. Fuck it, you guys vote on it
Speaker 1: in a test audience.
Speaker 2: Let's go like, why not you have to hit or release.
Speaker 2: You can't just be tinkering with it and try to
Speaker 2: get into perfection. It's like, Yay, this movie kind of
Speaker 2: is what it is, Like, this is the best tick
Speaker 2: we can get it into. You know. I didn't go
Speaker 2: see it, not because I don't like female superhero movies
Speaker 2: or I don't particularly big millig Alcock fan. The story
Speaker 2: just did not speak to me, like, I have no
Speaker 2: interest in seeing the movie. Maybe if I'd gotten like
Speaker 2: a free invite to an early screening, maybe, But like
Speaker 2: the woman Boston, I had every opportunity to go see
Speaker 2: Supergirl a lot of nights in them, Dad, right, I
Speaker 2: had no interest. That's that's on the marketing.
Speaker 1: But for all the all the you talk about chicken litter,
Speaker 1: all the writing of this kind of stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: this goes back to what we talked about when this
Speaker 1: announcement was first announced. For James Gunn like, how many
Speaker 1: of these filmmakers are gonna kind of are gonna want
Speaker 1: to come work with James Gunn? And now here's a
Speaker 1: filmmaker who did come work with James Gunn and in
Speaker 1: essence they try to take the film away from him
Speaker 1: to a degree to try to save it. So, if
Speaker 1: you're a director, do you want to walk back into
Speaker 1: these halls right now and work for James Gunn knowing
Speaker 1: he's done what seven out of the nine to ten
Speaker 1: projects that you got coming out? Like, it's just an
Speaker 1: interesting situation.
Speaker 2: Is this narrative change when Clayface is a huge hit?
Speaker 2: Because this is that's the thing. This is what I'm
Speaker 2: getting at the whole. I'm pro dc right, Okay, this
Speaker 2: is the stumbling block and this is like karma for
Speaker 2: all you know, all the going on the internet and
Speaker 2: saying it. You know, I know how to do everything.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah right right right right right next movies
Speaker 2: are what Clayface going to be a hit?
Speaker 1: Possibly?
Speaker 2: I think Lantern's is gonna work for each.
Speaker 1: Have you seen it? Have you seen it?
Speaker 2: They have shared four episodes. I believe with your writers
Speaker 2: longa writers. I'm not one of those. I'm not saying nothing.
Speaker 2: I've heard. I've heard it's it's okay at the very least,
Speaker 2: right like it's it's like a disaster. I think it
Speaker 2: will intrigue people. I think it'll perform well for HBO.
Speaker 2: I think they have a star in Aaron Pierre. Then
Speaker 2: you're gonna get Man of Tomorrow. Yes, hit, that's gonna
Speaker 2: be a hit, Okay, don't you think.
Speaker 1: I say, if you look at James Gun's track record,
Speaker 1: I would say yes. Because James Gundrex films really well.
Speaker 2: I would say yes. David porn Sweat is that care.
Speaker 1: They do, and they like to make this hold this
Speaker 1: next week and not.
Speaker 2: Taking anything out of Superman. It's not like there's somebody
Speaker 2: who big who's not like necessarily coming back. You're just
Speaker 2: adding Brainiac to that sou fle and probably Wonder Woman too.
Speaker 1: Right, But you're adding a character, a actor again who
Speaker 1: is not known to too many people and is kind
Speaker 1: of similar to the.
Speaker 2: Actor that was super much better known, much better than
Speaker 2: than than Krem from Super Right. So I think there's
Speaker 2: a much more excitement about seeing that character finally on
Speaker 2: on the big screen. Superman Man Tamara, I think that's
Speaker 2: a hit Batman hit.
Speaker 1: It's nothing to do with James gun though. That's got
Speaker 1: nothing to do with.
Speaker 2: But it's DC. It's just sure sure. So to me,
Speaker 2: that's four for clayfaced lanterns Superman to Batman two, that's
Speaker 2: four hits. So yeah, this is a stunning block. But
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a sign of like, oh, now
Speaker 2: everything that they do isn't gonna work.
Speaker 1: Well, that's fair, but I mean it wasn't like Supergirls
Speaker 1: in a Vacuum, right, Like people didn't like the season
Speaker 1: two of Peacemaker ending and the right were way down
Speaker 1: from season one. People didn't like the Indian Creature commandos
Speaker 1: the people who watched it, right. Superman is liked, but
Speaker 1: you know, people thought it was going to do much
Speaker 1: more than it did. But it did revitalize the brand.
Speaker 1: And now you have this Supergirl debacle in when it's
Speaker 1: come out. But then they're attacking this idea of the
Speaker 1: plan of going with these smaller characters. Like you said,
Speaker 1: DC Crime, whatever it's going to be called. You've got
Speaker 1: the Dane bet Bain death Struck movie that's still happening,
Speaker 1: and so you have these questions around all of this stuff.
Speaker 1: And then the Batman stuff is still sitting out. There's
Speaker 1: this massive elephant in the room about how to deal
Speaker 1: with it. But if what what I'm saying is, if
Speaker 1: people starting to lose faith in James Gunn, how many
Speaker 1: people are going to see clay Face even if it
Speaker 1: got good reviews. What if clay Face doesn't do that well?
Speaker 1: What if it want to make sixty million dollars on
Speaker 1: a forty million dollar budget, or seventy or eighty even
Speaker 1: give it an eighty. And then if Landros comes out
Speaker 1: and the ratings aren't that high because people don't like
Speaker 1: the series overall, that also hurts James Gunn. So by
Speaker 1: the time Man Tomorrow comes around, it could be like
Speaker 1: James Gunn, say, saving your job or your fire, you know, I'd.
Speaker 2: Be willing to put it all on Clayface. I'd be
Speaker 2: willing to put it all on Clayface and say wow, work, goodbye,
Speaker 2: oh oh yeah, and just say hey, you know, if
Speaker 2: this is another, you know, another example of where you
Speaker 2: want to take this universe, and no one next with
Speaker 2: his character, then you know what, Let's keep you around
Speaker 2: to direct these Superman movies, but we'll find somebody else
Speaker 2: to map out this universe. I'm saying, I think Clayface
Speaker 2: is going to absolutely work. Yeah, the choice he had
Speaker 2: a decision to make. Okay, do I make Sergeant Rock right?
Speaker 2: Squad Agnino and Colin Ferrell and a budget that was
Speaker 2: probably seventy five million, right, right, right, Clayface. I don't
Speaker 2: know who's starring in it, and when I cast a star,
Speaker 2: no one's going to know who it is. Right, Okay,
Speaker 2: some director who's not Kugladagnino. Right, But it's forty million
Speaker 2: dollars and it's horror that he is a smart studio head. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's not about who your director is. Tough one. I
Speaker 2: had to pull the plug, Sally, sorry, Colin had to
Speaker 2: pull the plug. This movie at forty million dollars in horror,
Speaker 2: horror audiences show up, they come out, So I absolutely
Speaker 2: going to be a huge win. It'll probably make back
Speaker 2: its budget in its opening weekend. Who are we kidding?
Speaker 1: You have a lot of faith in this movie, man,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of faith. I don't know that
Speaker 1: I have, and I'll tell you why. Because it's not
Speaker 1: a straight horror film. It is in the DC universe.
Speaker 1: This isn't back rooms or obsession or or whatever that
Speaker 1: TV show horror trailer that dropped this week, that's not
Speaker 1: it's it's this is something that has to adhere to
Speaker 1: some DC situations, And if Batman's going to be in
Speaker 1: this movie, then that removes it from being a horror
Speaker 1: even more so it makes it something different. So I
Speaker 1: don't know necessarily that the horror audience is going to
Speaker 1: run to an establishment Warner Brothers type of situation, IP
Speaker 1: franchise type of situation. I don't know. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying wrong, nor am I doubting you. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying there's a possibility it doesn't do as well as
Speaker 1: people think it's going to do because they don't see
Speaker 1: it necessarily straight horror. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think this is the horror event to the Fall,
Speaker 2: really Okay. The only other one I can think of
Speaker 2: is on Peacock, So can you even call that an event?
Speaker 1: No? No, But someone asked this question really well. Trash
Speaker 1: Panda asked the same question that Faraci asked, who is
Speaker 1: Clay Face fool?
Speaker 2: It's for the same people that powered Joker to a
Speaker 2: billion dollars.
Speaker 1: M but that had Juaque in Phoenix. This guy's unknown.
Speaker 1: It's interesting though, could be you never know, could.
Speaker 2: Be it was Joker a billion dollars or a joker.
Speaker 1: Meant a billion. Joker made a billion. Yeah, people were
Speaker 1: surprised by that.
Speaker 2: Resident Evil is obviously big guys, but oh yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean it's very big. But uh yeah, I kind of
Speaker 2: think clay Face is right there.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you're saying people are being a little too
Speaker 1: chicken a little about James Gun. Yes, but you're also
Speaker 1: saying if clay Face shits the bad then they got
Speaker 1: to get him out.
Speaker 2: You can't go one for three, right, one for three,
Speaker 2: That gets you bounced out of this business. Look at
Speaker 2: Richard Kelly.
Speaker 1: Huh true. True.
Speaker 2: So this was a I mean, it's we need to
Speaker 2: decide where we go after Superman and Supergirl. Where are
Speaker 2: we taking this? That's the He's like, cold, guys, come
Speaker 2: down this path. This is where we're going right right? Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like if that leads you into the swamp and you
Speaker 2: get stuck in the mud, you want someone who's gonna
Speaker 2: be like, all right, we got to turn around and
Speaker 2: go back the way we came, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can't keep going. So I think it's all on that,
Speaker 2: and I think it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Be gonn there's so many VARIABLESO. With the Ellison situation
Speaker 1: coming through as well, we don't know how that's going
Speaker 1: to change things down the road. So we'll see, but
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 2: The inn Snyder dot com. Yeah, all your needs.
Speaker 1: I didn't see you talk about this, but Jeff, the
Speaker 1: Emmys came through here, the nominations happened. What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this? The pitt led the way with twenty
Speaker 1: five nominations, Hacks, which had a great last season, got
Speaker 1: twenty four nominations, which is a record for a comedy
Speaker 1: series in a single year, and Widows bay Hey Now
Speaker 1: earned nineteen nominations, leading all news shows. Plurmus had eighteen,
Speaker 1: Beef had sixteen season two, Saint Louis at thirteen. I
Speaker 1: need to watch that series. Satah Live and Spider and
Speaker 1: War both got eleven a piece. So some good stuff there, Jeff. Overall, Yes,
Speaker 1: your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the most thing. The thing I was most excited
Speaker 2: about was Mariska Hargatea hosting. I thought that was great.
Speaker 2: M She's a great choice. I love her. I'm the
Speaker 2: only guy who's still watches sp you on a weekly basis.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're the only guy who wouldn't be
Speaker 1: on it wouldn't be still you're great.
Speaker 2: And the only who's gonna admit to it on a podcast.
Speaker 1: Fair, fair, Fair.
Speaker 2: I just don't really care about the Emmys, even though
Speaker 2: I oh, wow to FYC, like right, you know, if
Speaker 2: you've watched that show this season, I've seen thirty percent
Speaker 2: of the nominees. The stuff that gets nominated just isn't
Speaker 2: really my cup of tea. Necessarily, I started with don't
Speaker 2: finish him. I haven't seen Widow's Bay yet. I've heard
Speaker 2: it's great. I really do want to haven't had time.
Speaker 1: I want to hear what you think. I hope you
Speaker 1: do get a chance to watch it.
Speaker 2: They hacked, Like the Pitt and Hacks are both really
Speaker 2: good shows. Hacks terrific wins. Do you really think Bacon
Speaker 2: knockoff Hacks?
Speaker 1: Do I think what willows Bacon knockoff Hacks final season?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Hacks is so beloved. Plus, it's
Speaker 1: about the industry, bro, you know, the industry loves to
Speaker 1: reward the industry. So I don't think so. But I
Speaker 1: think since Widows Bay is coming back for a second season,
Speaker 1: I do think this now moves Widows Bay into contender
Speaker 1: status for next year for sure. But I don't think
Speaker 1: they'll you know, knock them off this year.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, it's just the same, Like it's the
Speaker 2: same shows that are nominated every year. It's the same
Speaker 2: people in performances. I don't know. I disagree with a
Speaker 2: lot of the the Emmy stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, what about plurbis hard for Lewis? Yeah, what about
Speaker 1: the Task not getting nominated? That's that was pretty shocking
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that's crazy. I mean maybe it's just because
Speaker 2: it feels old, you know, it feels like it was
Speaker 2: so long ago that That's the other thing I don't understand,
Speaker 2: Like the calendar here it's it's yeah, I hate it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just I mean, even like they give you could
Speaker 2: be like the lead in the TV show for like
Speaker 2: yes or twelve hours, you get the same fucking statue
Speaker 2: as someone who's in one episode for like six minutes. Mm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: You say thing about movies. You could start a three
Speaker 2: hour movie and then they give Anthony Hopkins and I
Speaker 2: are Judy dengeon Oscar for ten minutes. But like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I just the kind of like ridiculous to me.
Speaker 1: Do you watch your friends and neighbors?
Speaker 2: I don't is this one?
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would get into it. Man,
Speaker 1: I just don't watch like it a lot you do,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Joe.
Speaker 1: I always going back and forth on John Ham because
Speaker 1: I'm not always in his camp and stuff. Were you
Speaker 1: surprised about the about the Madison getting snubbed? I mean
Speaker 1: that seemed like the most mainstream.
Speaker 2: From tailors, Taylor Sheridan.
Speaker 1: That's a shame. What was the other one here?
Speaker 2: That one? Ah, strange things I know that snubbed right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, half Man got snubbed for the most part. Jamie
Speaker 1: Beale getting snubbed for that role We're like.
Speaker 2: This is the best, the best, Okay, well, like, congratulations
Speaker 2: to you on being the two percent of people who
Speaker 2: finished that show. I was like half man screeners. I'm like,
Speaker 2: clear my fucking schedule, right, maybe Reindeer follow up, follow
Speaker 2: up the Indier go to that show and I was like,
Speaker 2: holy fuck, like I need I need to drink at
Speaker 2: this and I don't drink. Right. It was like I
Speaker 2: never watched the second episode. I never finished the show.
Speaker 2: And how many people A lot, probably because it's just
Speaker 2: so grim, Like I just who wants to spend later
Speaker 2: life watching this misery porn prestige TV.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean some people do enjoy it, Jeff, some
Speaker 1: people do enjoy it. So but I was happy for Hacks.
Speaker 1: I loved I loved that last season and that last episode.
Speaker 1: What a great finale. I just finished, we finished, uh
Speaker 1: the Bear. I thought this past season was the best
Speaker 1: of the last three. I really enjoyed this last season.
Speaker 1: I really did very touching, very heartfelt. Couldn't believe it's
Speaker 1: all basically one night, one day, one day and night
Speaker 1: the whole season. It was intense. Man, I loved it.
Speaker 2: You didn't like it?
Speaker 1: Did you see it? I don't watch Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, popular. I don't watch it, John.
Speaker 1: It's not true.
Speaker 2: You watch this for you. It's pretty popular.
Speaker 1: It's pretty popular.
Speaker 2: Not with the segment of people on that are online
Speaker 2: talking about to.
Speaker 1: Your Boston boys. All right, let's okay, So anything more
Speaker 1: to say on these anymore? Any other snubs? I don't
Speaker 1: think there's any of the snubs.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about these Marvels.
Speaker 1: What do you think about it? That's hold on, let
Speaker 1: me bring it up all right, here we go Indian Averred.
Speaker 1: Apparently the rumor is that she has met with Marvel.
Speaker 1: But then again, Jeff, everybody seems to meet with Marvel nowadays.
Speaker 1: But maybe this one has a little more credibility because
Speaker 1: she's coming out of Obsession, which just crossed four hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars at the box office. I will watch it
Speaker 1: at some point this weekend and do a reaction to it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, what do you think about this? Her meeting
Speaker 1: with with Marvel? And we'll deal with the heat too
Speaker 1: stuff in a little bit, supposedly meeting with them as well.
Speaker 1: But what are you thought this?
Speaker 2: You have to deal with them together? Okay, I don't
Speaker 2: I don't like either one's gonna happen. Wow, who talks
Speaker 2: about this if you're actually going to be casting X Men?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: You talked about taking a meeting with the X Men director.
Speaker 1: Oh No, she didn't say it. It's reports are saying
Speaker 1: from some credible sources.
Speaker 2: He said it in a Nylon inn.
Speaker 1: She said, I'd love it. I would, she said. Asked
Speaker 1: if she would do a Marvel movie, she just said
Speaker 1: I would. Shouldn't say I've met with anybody about it.
Speaker 1: You sure I'm looking at it right now?
Speaker 2: You're looking at Nylon.
Speaker 1: In a new interview with Nylon, the twenty five year
Speaker 1: old was asked if she would do a Marvel movie.
Speaker 1: I would, she replied, She speaking of which, according to
Speaker 1: Hollywood reporter, Navrad has reportedly met with Thunderbolt Timmer Jake Schreyer,
Speaker 1: who is directing the Marvel's upcoming X Men reboot. She's
Speaker 1: also reportedly met with Michael Mann, who is currently casting
Speaker 1: Heat Too.
Speaker 2: That's not the way I The way that I read
Speaker 2: it was they gave that she listed four directors who
Speaker 2: she wants to work with.
Speaker 1: Oh, did you just say Jake Jake.
Speaker 2: Schreier were on that list? That's what you Jake Schreyer like,
Speaker 2: why you know, what do you a secret? Robot? And
Speaker 2: Franklin So I don't know, but I would assume. Listen,
Speaker 2: I'm sure she's going in for fucking everything right now,
Speaker 2: right of course she is. Yeah, yeah, she can write
Speaker 2: her own ticket. I really believe that, right. Her being
Speaker 2: the leading obsession is completely different than Odessa being the
Speaker 2: female lead in a successfully twenty four movie like Marty Supreme.
Speaker 1: Right, right, right right.
Speaker 2: If she wants to be an X Men and come
Speaker 2: municates that to them, I think that she would probably
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Her list of dream directors is Ryan Coogler, Greta Gerwig,
Speaker 1: Michael Man, and Thunderbolt director takes right. My girl trying
Speaker 1: to put herself in everything.
Speaker 2: This is a smart answer.
Speaker 1: She's like, find me, put me in Black Panther three,
Speaker 1: put me in a Heat two, put me in the
Speaker 1: next word of Gerwig movie, and put me in That's what.
Speaker 2: She wants to do, right. It's like, what is she
Speaker 2: right for Heat? Like, okay, yeah, I want to be
Speaker 2: the part of Heat two all over with Christian bal
Speaker 2: Leonod DiCaprio and Michaelman. Great is she right for this role?
Speaker 2: Because she doesn't seem like.
Speaker 1: It, could she be a young Ashley Judd? You don't
Speaker 1: think so?
Speaker 2: No? First of all, no, absolutely not. She should not
Speaker 2: be uh Christian wife. But no, there's the role of Elisa,
Speaker 2: and it's like, I still seem too young for that role.
Speaker 2: I don't really see you opposite like Stephen Graham, I
Speaker 2: think she's right for heat too. Is I craps you?
Speaker 2: You could fit her into any one of these characters,
Speaker 2: But it's like, is that really what you want to
Speaker 2: do is go run off the Marvel and be like
Speaker 2: a Marvel girl and a slave to that universe for
Speaker 2: the next decade. I don't know if that's the best play.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jennifer Lawrence did it right right when she
Speaker 1: was Lawrence now well true, true, But she got a
Speaker 1: couple of oscars out of it, didn't she or a
Speaker 1: few nominations in.
Speaker 2: That Indy should be taking over some app some of
Speaker 2: Jennifer Lawrence's projects at Apple because everything Apple has with
Speaker 2: Jennifer Lawrence and Guys you Can't Star and everything. And
Speaker 2: you know, when was the last time she had a
Speaker 2: movie that cracked four hundred million dollars? I can tell
Speaker 2: you it was a decade ago. It was sixteen's x
Speaker 2: Men of Bocalypse, which is an X Men movie. So
Speaker 2: it's exactly she doesn't have a four hundred million dollar
Speaker 2: movie like Indian Ever. You know, just yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 2: X Men is the answer. I know that it is
Speaker 2: obviously for certain actors, right.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know if maybe this is, but I
Speaker 1: think you might be right for a different reason though, Jeff.
Speaker 1: I mean, Sadie's sink is going to be the lead
Speaker 1: of this X Men movie with whoever's playing Cyclops, So she,
Speaker 1: in essence will be playing part of an ensemble piece,
Speaker 1: but it won't be her leading the way. Right. So,
Speaker 1: if you're Indian Ever at coming out of a film
Speaker 1: that made four hundred million dollars where everyone is talking
Speaker 1: about you and everyone wants to meet with you, are
Speaker 1: you going to take a role where you're playing third
Speaker 1: or fourth banana in an.
Speaker 2: X Men movie. I don't think that you would do that.
Speaker 2: So that's where my mind goes to.
Speaker 1: Although she mentioned Jake Srye, which I think she wanted
Speaker 1: to get tongues wagging, which your PR agent probably said,
Speaker 1: mention these four because this will get you some attention.
Speaker 1: I think in the end, there's no way she would
Speaker 1: she would take the role and be like third or
Speaker 1: fourth on the list. It doesn't make sense where she's
Speaker 1: at right now. And I'm looking at it, and look,
Speaker 1: some people are like, well an actor wants that. Listen,
Speaker 1: this is Hollywood, man, It's a whole nother fucking ball game.
Speaker 1: It's about establishing yourself and getting people to understand you
Speaker 1: want to be a lead. Taking it third or fourth
Speaker 1: part on the call sheet isn't going to help you
Speaker 1: get that lead, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't think it's right for her,
Speaker 2: but you know it's not necessarily wrong. Okay, Yeah, you
Speaker 2: can see her being a bond girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she's twenty five, she's in that age range.
Speaker 1: She's certainly phenomenally attractive. So yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 2: You're working with Denie Like, yeah, not Jake Schreyer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Karen says it right there. I would say, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to like rag on Jake Schreyer here,
Speaker 2: but uh yeah, oh, you're right. There are other things
Speaker 2: to aspire to than the X Men.
Speaker 1: Right, If you have like Grete garrowg Ryan Coogler, Michael
Speaker 1: Man and then Jake Jake Tryer is like that dragon
Speaker 1: with the weird face, right, the other three are like
Speaker 1: great looking dragons. The fourth was because why would you
Speaker 1: go that direction? You're right, you want to work with
Speaker 1: the best, and if you get an opportunity to work
Speaker 1: with the best, you want to jump with that.
Speaker 2: He two is different.
Speaker 1: I think she could take the role and he too
Speaker 1: if she wanted to do it. And that is an
Speaker 1: ensemble piece. She's not the lead. But there's a prestige
Speaker 1: factor to that that's different from X Men, and so
Speaker 1: I think there could be something with that by the
Speaker 1: Bond film. That's a great idea. Man, that is a
Speaker 1: great idea. Someone says she's a couple of years off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't start shooting tomorrow if she was going to
Speaker 1: be in the Bond field, be next year sometimes, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that idea. No, keep her away from Star Wars.
Speaker 1: Don't even mention star Wars. What other Marvel news have
Speaker 1: you got any other more? You said, Marvel News? Is
Speaker 1: there any more you got Marvel news? Wise? Have you
Speaker 1: heard anything?
Speaker 2: You know all these rumors about this new mutant? Right,
Speaker 2: I'm told yes, the Black Panther three is going to
Speaker 2: introduce a new mutant. Yes, I'm told it's not Magneto. Okay,
Speaker 2: and yet Denzel's going to be in the movie, right,
Speaker 2: I believe so. I don't think Denzel is being is
Speaker 2: going to be Magneto.
Speaker 1: It sounds like okay.
Speaker 2: I think that he could be playing some other villain role.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll be in amalgam of different characters,
Speaker 2: an original character, or the Shadow King. Oh and you
Speaker 2: know rumored. I can't imagine him in that costume.
Speaker 1: But let's run through these real quick.
Speaker 2: It could be storm.
Speaker 1: What do you think is Wagner Mora really the top
Speaker 1: choice to play mister Senator mister sinister in the MCU.
Speaker 1: Have you heard.
Speaker 2: That I thought was mister Senator? Guys, I don't even know.
Speaker 2: I don't know the difference. I don't know what what
Speaker 2: the hell is going? Wow, I think that they like
Speaker 2: him for the villain role, but again, he just signed
Speaker 2: on to be the villain in Ocean's eleven. I think
Speaker 2: they like the villain in Bond. The guy had villain
Speaker 2: written on his fucking forehead. That the second he did
Speaker 2: Secret Agent basically and was the good guy.
Speaker 1: Now my time Shine Hello also has h Dwayne Johnson
Speaker 1: reportedly being the top choice to portray Apocalypse and Marvels X.
Speaker 1: Do you buy that at all?
Speaker 2: I almost tweeted something in response to this today. Okay,
Speaker 2: what a horrible character is that? Not one of the
Speaker 2: worst characters of the last ten years that you've seen
Speaker 2: on there you go.
Speaker 1: It's not a terrible character in the comic books. It's
Speaker 1: an incredible character in complex But yes, what we saw
Speaker 1: in that movie was horrific and poor Oscar Isaac. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I hope the money spent well, brother, because
Speaker 1: that was a rough, rough, rough it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Dwayne would hate it. Yeah, the name
Speaker 2: of Apocalypse is totally tainted. I don't think that they should
Speaker 2: touch that character, and I don't think Dwayne would go
Speaker 2: do that. He should be holding out for like dark
Speaker 2: Side or I don't know, some other massive villain not that.
Speaker 1: But should he be holding on for that? Let's talk
Speaker 1: about this, nick, should it be hold on? I'm in
Speaker 1: like his this Milana dude is not tracking well. I
Speaker 1: just got a text from Winston A. Marshall in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles who texted me, bro, I think muwanna may shit
Speaker 1: the bed hardcore. It is four pm during a summer
Speaker 1: break in La and I am in this theater alone
Speaker 1: for a screening of this film.
Speaker 2: So is the bloom off the rose on the rock?
Speaker 1: Bro? Why would even anybody look at him for a
Speaker 1: dark side or anything else? What are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 2: I think it's like I commend him for trying to
Speaker 2: do something different with Smashing Machine, which I really enjoyed,
Speaker 2: but it's almost like a slap in your in the
Speaker 2: face to your actual paying audience. Right You're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't want to do those movies anymore, you know,
Speaker 2: then you ask them to come back like six months
Speaker 2: later for this ohen Lileeerman is like the only critic
Speaker 2: who seems to like it.
Speaker 1: I mean, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no plans to see it. It's not for a
Speaker 2: forty two year old man without a niece to the movie.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you I almost ran it today, but probably week. Okay.
Speaker 2: I got a report about the Rocks movie. You know
Speaker 2: what movie I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: Is it The Free Bird or something else he's got
Speaker 1: coming up?
Speaker 2: I got the scoop on Jumanji three.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, Jumanji three. What are you hearing?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: Not to spoil the test screening report, but it ain't good. Oh, shit,
Speaker 2: it ain't good really between Mawana and this Jumanji three
Speaker 2: report that I will be sharing. Yeah, I something's got
Speaker 2: to give because it sounds like this is a rough
Speaker 2: year for him.
Speaker 1: Wow wow Yeah, because right now, if I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the numbers correctly, uh, Mowana was? Yeah? What was? It's
Speaker 1: currently projected to have a lip forty million dollar opening
Speaker 1: weekend based on ticket sales. It was a two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollar budgeted movie. And now and the
Speaker 1: Rotten Tomatoes for the for the film is at thirty
Speaker 1: two percent. As you said, Owen Gleeberman being the only
Speaker 1: one of note who seems to like it forty four
Speaker 1: on Metacritic, and it's looking like it's gonna lose a
Speaker 1: lot of money like that, people are not gonna come
Speaker 1: see this movie. And I'm hearing I'm Owen is the
Speaker 1: only one who seems to be positive about the rocks performance.
Speaker 1: Just about every review I read is saying he's sleepwalking
Speaker 1: through the whole damn movie and that the girl is
Speaker 1: the reason to see the film, but and the grandma,
Speaker 1: but not much else. So how are you not standing
Speaker 1: out in a film like this? The role was written
Speaker 1: for you? This was an iconic role for you. Animation wise,
Speaker 1: it's it's mind blowing man. So yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: He's pissed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he come talk to me.
Speaker 2: He watches the show live every week.
Speaker 1: Oh I wish you did. Come on the show. Rock,
Speaker 1: Come on the show. I've interviewed you twice. We have
Speaker 1: a rapport. Come on the show. Let's have a conversation.
Speaker 1: Talk to me, talk to us rather. But he is
Speaker 1: apparently what's duy Johnson is gonna go and now move
Speaker 1: and do. Johnson said to star in the drama Free,
Speaker 1: which is backed by Ben afflecka Matt Damon's artist equity.
Speaker 1: He will star as a Las Vegas motorcycle stuntman who
Speaker 1: conceals his dementia diagnosis from everyone, including his mechanic brother,
Speaker 1: as he risks everything on one last film. This is
Speaker 1: being directed by Greg Queidar, who did Sing Sing in
Speaker 1: Train Dreams.
Speaker 2: So okay, I think this is again the type of
Speaker 2: prestige acting vehicle that fits within his wheelhouse. I mean,
Speaker 2: you wish that the Aeronofski movie would get going soon.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah right, I'm excited about that. I think that
Speaker 2: is the roeducation prioritized. But this is a really good director. Okay,
Speaker 2: and yeah, I like I mean, especially with the Evil
Speaker 2: Canevel movie not going. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is kind
Speaker 2: of almost like fits that fills that point.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's we'll see what happens with the Rock.
Speaker 1: Of course, we'll keep tabs on that. And Moan is
Speaker 1: probably gonna shit the bed, so we'll talk about that
Speaker 1: next week for sure. Well, we did already hit on this,
Speaker 1: So do you want to say think anything more on this?
Speaker 1: That this is official? That Well, DiCaprio and Crista bil
Speaker 1: have signed on to Heat too. We didn't do a
Speaker 1: show last week, so we didn't talk about it, but
Speaker 1: it is still Stephen Graham and talks to play Robert
Speaker 1: de Niro's character there Neil McAuley. So does this make sense?
Speaker 2: Does it work? Are you on board with this? What
Speaker 2: are you feeling it makes sense? That's another question? Okay,
Speaker 2: do you like it? I sit here six inches from
Speaker 2: a Heat poster. I just have a bad feeling about this.
Speaker 2: Would I love a crime movie starring Leonardo DiCaprio and
Speaker 2: Christian Bale? Yes? Yes, Do I have a good feeling
Speaker 2: about this movie? Absolutely not, just because Michael Man's last
Speaker 2: few movies have been pretty disappointing. But just like I
Speaker 2: don't get messing with perfection, like you just you don't
Speaker 2: mess with perfection. Yeah, this doesn't need a sequel. The
Speaker 2: sequel that Michael Man came up with, which granted it
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be the exact same thing, is the book, right,
Speaker 2: sequel wasn't that great? It was okay, do the book
Speaker 2: not great? Yeah? I don't know. I don't know who.
Speaker 1: I don't know who is clamoring for this. This feels
Speaker 1: to me like a Blade Runner twenty forty nine situation,
Speaker 1: where like everyone loved a Blade Runner and they've discovered
Speaker 1: it on on on on home media, and we're like, well,
Speaker 1: we got to make a sequel. Eventually, we finally have
Speaker 1: a sequel. It comes out, no one goes to see it,
Speaker 1: even though it's one of the best films he's ever done,
Speaker 1: and I wonder if the same thing will happen here.
Speaker 1: It's he look, he did well, but it didn't blow off,
Speaker 1: blow the doors off the box office. So there's a
Speaker 1: possibility that this is fair that people don't necessarily want
Speaker 1: to see in a theater for the amount of money
Speaker 1: Michael Man is asking for. I don't know necessarily that
Speaker 1: it'll be a hit. You know, Crime one to one
Speaker 1: got great reviews. Nobody went to see that fucking movie.
Speaker 2: That's listen. I don't care if it's a hit, right,
Speaker 2: we give a shit. I don't want Heat three, So
Speaker 2: I don't care if women don't show up to this
Speaker 2: movie because they don't, you know, show up to crime
Speaker 2: movies or they have to get shocked. I care if
Speaker 2: it's good, and if it if it's even like half
Speaker 2: as good as Heat, I'll take it.
Speaker 1: Okay, But.
Speaker 2: Does it is it worthy of the title? And these characters?
Speaker 2: Like the story that that I'm aware of is not right?
Speaker 1: But are you being like a Star Wars fan? Are
Speaker 1: you being one of those Star Wars fans like you
Speaker 1: can't recast Luke, you can't recast Lea? Are you being
Speaker 1: that way about de Niro, Paccino and Kilmer? Are you
Speaker 1: being like you can't recast these guys? Are you being
Speaker 1: that way a little bit like that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, yes, just I'm just asking that and that
Speaker 2: and that is my Star Wars. I'm not afraid to
Speaker 2: be like defensive about it. This is my Star Wars.
Speaker 2: These character that's total So That's why I am.
Speaker 1: Nervous as well.
Speaker 2: You should be. I mean, you can't argue with Leo
Speaker 2: Bayle and Stephen Graham. I've heard is fantastic in the
Speaker 2: new Apple series Nocturn with Leeb Schreiver. Oh okay, where
Speaker 2: he's going to be playing a serial killer who's terrorizing
Speaker 2: him in Zass he beats It makes sense. So, like
Speaker 2: you know, he's he's always been a great actor. I
Speaker 2: just don't know if he's like the way I picture
Speaker 2: Neil McCauley.
Speaker 1: Well, he did play Capone and DeNiro played Capone, so
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe you heard it was trending that way with Driver
Speaker 2: to play Wardell.
Speaker 1: Mmm, okay, all right.
Speaker 2: Kind of a bummer, because I do think he would
Speaker 2: have been an interesting Neil McCauley.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, because he's got that kind of like
Speaker 1: quiet menace to him when he needs it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a good point. All right. Uh, listen on some
Speaker 1: other films here, uh, Jeff Big Films, who just had
Speaker 1: the Dune three hial trailer dropped this week. I for
Speaker 1: some reason thought it was the third trailer. I think
Speaker 1: I'd read that somewhere, so I said, third trailer not
Speaker 1: my reaction. Uh, A few people have come after me
Speaker 1: for that. So I want to officially say it is
Speaker 1: the official trailer. There was a teaser trailer, but I
Speaker 1: did see the seven Minutes of clar CinemaCon, so maybe
Speaker 1: I got confused there, But Jeff, yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't want let me stop you right now. Didn't
Speaker 2: watch it? Why Why would I? Because I don't know you.
Speaker 1: This is as closely gonna get to the movie to
Speaker 1: the movie comes out.
Speaker 2: I mean, I saw the seven minutes at Cinema Con.
Speaker 2: I was sold. It's amazing. I don't need to see
Speaker 2: a trailer that ruins more of this movie. Like, yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I love trailers and I want to see what movies
Speaker 2: look like. But once I get that impression, like I
Speaker 2: don't need to see her see second, third, fourth trailers.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, okay, well this was the first official you know,
Speaker 1: so it wasn't Yeah okay, Well I thought it was
Speaker 1: epic as fuck. I think it immediately vaulted into the
Speaker 1: number one spot for Best Picture just off of this trailer. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw the seven Minutes of Cinema Call like you did, Jeff.
Speaker 1: We loved it, But like, I think this trailer even
Speaker 1: more so which has which has more footage and different footage? Uh.
Speaker 1: I immediately came away from this trailer going, this is
Speaker 1: the Best Picture winner right here.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 1: It's not even a question. And so we'll see if
Speaker 1: that's true. But it looks incredible and what they've done
Speaker 1: with the characters.
Speaker 2: I can't. I mean, did you see The Odyssey yet?
Speaker 1: No, I'm seeing it Monday night with everyone else. It's
Speaker 1: not an influencer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, once I see The Odyssey, I'll be able to
Speaker 2: say whether dude is gonna win or not. Okay, right off,
Speaker 2: personal one in that movie.
Speaker 1: It's true, it's true. What about any other trailers you
Speaker 1: saw this week, Jeff, There was a lot of them. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had the mob Land season two trailer drop. We
Speaker 1: had the Godzilla.
Speaker 2: Let's talk because I saw your tweet and you're like,
Speaker 2: these old people need to stand out of the way.
Speaker 2: They've had their time. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: What's difficult to understand? I said it in English. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you understood what I said.
Speaker 2: What do you need to know? Yes, they're the leads
Speaker 2: of the show. It's they're not.
Speaker 1: The leads of the show. Tom Hardy is the lead
Speaker 1: of the show. They're not the lead of the show.
Speaker 1: Everything everything relies on Tom Hardy. Everything goes through Tom Hardy.
Speaker 1: Everything in that show.
Speaker 2: Tom Hardy is just fixing problems. Okay, the story, Like
Speaker 2: the story is them and the family and the decisions
Speaker 2: that they make. That's what's driving the action. Tom. He's
Speaker 2: mopping up behind him. That's nonsense.
Speaker 1: Tom Hardy is the reason all that shit happens on
Speaker 1: the show. He's the one that handles everything they're trying
Speaker 1: to do in order to short circuit that other crime family.
Speaker 2: It was Tom Hardy wife Bold on the show. I
Speaker 2: don't even like, did you not? Like the first season
Speaker 2: You're unhappy when their scenes were there and you're like,
Speaker 2: we need to get back to Tom Hardy.
Speaker 1: They want do you want to tell you the honest truth?
Speaker 1: I was bored with Helen Aaron throughout the whole. I
Speaker 1: thought it was ridiculous, so seat it felt almost at
Speaker 1: times like a Taylor Shared in Tulsa King type of
Speaker 1: Storylinehere You're like, look, I'm gonna buy it because it's
Speaker 1: in the show, but like it really is see through,
Speaker 1: you know, And so I I never liked anything with
Speaker 1: it was so obvious, like The thing is, you can't
Speaker 1: make it so obvious in episode one that anybody with
Speaker 1: half a brain in that family would have realized what
Speaker 1: she was doing.
Speaker 2: And so to me, that was the issue with her storyline.
Speaker 1: Pierce. They wisely kept him kind of like all the
Speaker 1: periphery doing certain things and whatever. But like it was
Speaker 1: mostly about Patty Considine and Tom Hardy. It was their
Speaker 1: relationship and connection and all this that was powering everything's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 2: You know, show about basically Tom Hagen. And you're saying
Speaker 2: that Tom Hagan should have a show about him without
Speaker 2: the Godfather around, But it's what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Are you wait a minute, are you trying to tell
Speaker 1: me that you think Tom Hardy in the movie is
Speaker 1: fucking Tom Hagen, the lawyer who was preaching peace and.
Speaker 2: Calm Ary two is the right hand trusted guy.
Speaker 1: Yes, No, he is the he is he is the
Speaker 1: what do you call it? He is the he is
Speaker 1: the hammer. He's the hammer of the whole situation. And no,
Speaker 1: I know he's not going to take over the family.
Speaker 1: I know that. I'm not saying they can't be in
Speaker 1: the show. I just said to I mean seeing Pierre's
Speaker 1: Braso with double machine gun. That was ridiculous, Jeff, Okay,
Speaker 1: it was ridiculous. It's just it's just too much.
Speaker 2: It's too much.
Speaker 1: It's just too much because I think this could be
Speaker 1: a fucking badass, gritty show. But seeing him going yeah,
Speaker 1: double fifty, by the fuck, I just get.
Speaker 2: The fuck out of here, you know, it just it's
Speaker 2: too ridiculous, shows a blast. What are the other trailers?
Speaker 1: You stop me from looking them up because you asked
Speaker 1: the questions. Uh, hold on, let's see here we had.
Speaker 1: Did you see the Bad Apples trailer? Did you see
Speaker 1: the Bad Apples trailer? The siouly Ronan one? No, okay, idiots?
Speaker 1: Did you see the idiots? The Dave franko Oshi.
Speaker 2: Jackson won great, great energy. I'm excited for that movie. Yes,
Speaker 2: me too.
Speaker 1: Essentially, Seth and James right, they just replaced it with
Speaker 1: Osha and his brother Dave. It is legitimately the same thing.
Speaker 1: You could see Godzilla MINEA zero. Do you see that.
Speaker 2: James Mason Thames? Who's in that Who's in that movie?
Speaker 2: That kid?
Speaker 1: That kid is great. That kid is going to win
Speaker 1: an oscar before it's all over, trust me on that.
Speaker 2: He's being rumined for X men apparently.
Speaker 1: Oh, I could see that he'd be a great Cyclops
Speaker 1: or maybe even Wolverine if they want to fuck around.
Speaker 2: But he's into it a little bit. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean maybe.
Speaker 1: Godzilla Mine of zero Wolverine. I'm just throwing things out there.
Speaker 1: Did you see the Godzilla Mine zero? Yes?
Speaker 2: Or no? Yeah? That was the same footage we saw CinemaCon.
Speaker 2: I think it was. It looked fine.
Speaker 1: What about Buddy the thirty second horror?
Speaker 2: Right? And I'm looking forward to that. I like the
Speaker 2: Full for Hope.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was good.
Speaker 2: Yes, what did you think about that story today? That? Oh?
Speaker 1: Wait, the wrong Girls?
Speaker 2: Did you see the girls horrific trailer? Yeah, dude, this
Speaker 2: is why you don't make a movie with your spouse.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, who's who is married on this?
Speaker 1: On this film?
Speaker 2: Christian's wife? Oh, Dylan directed this? But this movie looks
Speaker 2: like ass first, Well, she's you're way too old for this,
Speaker 2: way too old to be doing this movie. Christ agree,
Speaker 2: that's number one? Number two Ali sharkat Lover Not I agree?
Speaker 2: Not somebody I'm paying to go see at the movie theater.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 2: There completely miscast, and that's because you know, I have
Speaker 2: to cast Kristen because she gets me to my fam
Speaker 2: financing And yeah, movies about where like people are on
Speaker 2: drugs the whole time. Ye, who does a lot of
Speaker 2: drugs is not very They're not very fun. Okay, you're
Speaker 2: kind of just there wishing, like I wish I was
Speaker 2: on these drugs having as much fun as these people are. Right,
Speaker 2: it's never a good time. I mean talking cats with
Speaker 2: like Seth and Kumil. Yeah, what are we doing? Like
Speaker 2: this is like these guys should have been voicing cats
Speaker 2: like fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1: Is Seth required to voice every character in a movie?
Speaker 1: Like I just am fascinated by it? He was in
Speaker 1: Animal Farm, he's in Supergirl, and now he's in this
Speaker 1: you know?
Speaker 2: Is it like insufferable version of Island Boosters, just like
Speaker 2: Neon comedy garbage?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right now? What about is I
Speaker 1: think there? I don't think there's any more trailers that
Speaker 1: came through. Oh, what we're gonna ask about? We're gonna
Speaker 1: ask about Are you gonna askbout something? Before I interrupt
Speaker 1: to do with wrong girl? What we're we gonna ask about?
Speaker 1: Do you remember so?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, yes, yes, it was about Oh how how
Speaker 2: you felt about Okay, Julianne Nicholson's character. Yeah, East Town
Speaker 2: is going to be in season two of Tasks, making
Speaker 2: that a joint universe sort of thing.
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of it. I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: of Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exciting. I mean, Mary V's Down to Me
Speaker 2: is like one of the great TV shows in the
Speaker 2: last ten years, so I'm all for Brad englesby returning
Speaker 2: to that character.
Speaker 1: And I love Task, so I'm I'm due for a
Speaker 1: rewatch of Mary Vastown for sure. So I love that
Speaker 1: they're comedy. And Julia Nicholson is such a great actress.
Speaker 1: It's so amazing to see her getting her flowers this
Speaker 1: later in her career. Bro, It's just amazing because I
Speaker 1: think she got nominated for uh in the Emmy. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh she's so good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wait a trailers Okay, go ahead, the trailer for the
Speaker 2: Netflix documentary A Toxic Love Story. Have you seen this yet? No?
Speaker 2: I saw.
Speaker 1: I put it as a remind me on my Netflix,
Speaker 1: but I haven't seen the trailer.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't say anything yet. I'm under embargo.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: You know where they find these stories? What else did
Speaker 2: I watch this week? Oh? I saw the invite? Do
Speaker 2: you see the invite yet? No?
Speaker 1: I'm seeing it this weekend. I almost see this because
Speaker 1: it wasn't It wasn't here in San Diego.
Speaker 2: This wasn't in Boston. That's why I just I literally
Speaker 2: I got off the plane. I got home at three
Speaker 2: in the morning on Sunday. What what is Tuesday? Wednesday?
Speaker 2: And I forget Thursday morning. Within eight hours I was
Speaker 2: in the movie theater seeing the invite and it was great. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right?
Speaker 1: What about Evil dead Burn?
Speaker 2: I would watch it, by the way, Broke, I would
Speaker 2: watch it. I would not take the missage.
Speaker 1: I don't think should go see that.
Speaker 2: It's not her old uncomfortable movie to watch with a buttner? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Uh did Evil dead Burn? April dead Burn?
Speaker 2: Did you see that Saturday night? Okay, okay, ready for
Speaker 2: my torture porn?
Speaker 1: That's what I hear. The critics have it an eighty
Speaker 1: eighty two percent. Every I've spoken to is who has
Speaker 1: seen it in the critics sphere hated it.
Speaker 2: So it's weird, yes, because there's no story.
Speaker 1: Four people texting me and were like, I didn't like it,
Speaker 1: so all right, so we'll see. I don't like torture porn. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm not not for you unless it's crucifixion like Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of a torture person.
Speaker 2: Jesus is being nailed to a fucking cross. I don't
Speaker 2: want to anybody.
Speaker 1: Dying for our sins. He's dying for our sins.
Speaker 2: H Wait, we can't, we can't leave.
Speaker 1: I know we're an hour in, but we haven't even
Speaker 1: gotten to the fucking Odyssey.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: The Odyssey, Bro. The first reactions are out.
Speaker 2: So's to get into the greatest movie ever next?
Speaker 1: No, I mean the fact that they did not bar influencers.
Speaker 1: It was a whole bunch of bullshit. And their reactions
Speaker 1: still came out, including friend of the show. Apparently Straw
Speaker 1: had goofy who we're gonna have to get on the
Speaker 1: show at some point soon.
Speaker 2: Juju was on and to see it last week, so
Speaker 2: had his reaction.
Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on this? Man?
Speaker 2: Listen, here's my thoughts. If you did an interview for
Speaker 2: The Odyssey, nothing that you say matters, all right, that's
Speaker 2: the way it goes. If you did an interview with
Speaker 2: someone for the Odyssey, and you said you love the Odyssey.
Speaker 2: That's great. I just don't care that you love the Odyssey.
Speaker 2: It means nothing, It doesn't It doesn't mean that you're
Speaker 2: not It doesn't mean that you're not telling the truth.
Speaker 1: It just means that we don't necessarily have to believe
Speaker 1: you and your assessment because it doesn't carry wait for us,
Speaker 1: because because there's a connection to a perk that you got.
Speaker 2: So to say, what was the word Strawhak Goofy used
Speaker 2: that I that was in the video. It was like
Speaker 2: the whole basis for his videos. Am I something? Am I? Uh, compromise, compromise.
Speaker 1: In my compromise.
Speaker 2: And yes, if you have done an interview for the Odyssey, yeah,
Speaker 2: you offer a reaction that's glowing a boy the Odyssey. Yes,
Speaker 2: your reaction is compromised. It's inherent. It's just part of
Speaker 2: the deal. Sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think you're right, and I think there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with saying that. Again, we're not saying you're lying,
Speaker 1: but we are saying that, like most people feel, you
Speaker 1: are compromised if you get access to all this stuff,
Speaker 1: if you're you know, make money off this stuff.
Speaker 2: The appearance of a conflict of interest yes, of course.
Speaker 2: The only way to avoid it is to you know,
Speaker 2: not participate, which is why I'm not in critics groups
Speaker 2: and I you know, I'm not in X, Y and
Speaker 2: Z and all this stuff because technically the conflicts of interests. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: that's fair, that's fair. All right.
Speaker 1: Let's see here, Uh, all right? Is this dead? Is
Speaker 1: this dead? Once and for all?
Speaker 2: The Hannibal Show, Great Racers, Netflix? There's no audience for this.
Speaker 2: Why are we spending twhundred million dollars on this? Why
Speaker 2: because Nzel wanted to play Hannibal once upon a time.
Speaker 2: There's no, you don't do this?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, one last thing, Uh, The question.
Speaker 2: Is does it free him up to go back to
Speaker 2: crawl back to Lionsgate and make Michael two. Antoine, we
Speaker 2: talked about this a.
Speaker 1: Couple of weeks ago when it was put on delay.
Speaker 1: I think this absolutely does now that it's dead.
Speaker 2: And I think you do it too. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not like anybody ever came in to replace you
Speaker 2: on Michael two. It's yeah, you made that movie. You
Speaker 2: hit a billion, whether you were directing from a van
Speaker 2: or not. You know, whether you handed the reins to
Speaker 2: Graham or not if they want you back, you know,
Speaker 2: unless Graham takes the himself. If I was antline, I
Speaker 2: would come back.
Speaker 1: It's the sweet, it's the secret sauce. The movie made
Speaker 1: enough for me to swallow my pride, go back onto
Speaker 1: that set, do a sequel, work with Graham, and maybe
Speaker 1: I get to do the movie I wanted to do,
Speaker 1: which was in essence criticizing people for criticizing Michael with
Speaker 1: the original story, And now you're gonna get a chance
Speaker 1: to really dive into that with the sequel. So I
Speaker 1: would do it a hundred percent, you know. And fuck,
Speaker 1: it's not like people are paying black filmmakers, you know,
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars all the time. Like take that money,
Speaker 1: go and do your thing. You know, there's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that. I thought, you know, take advantage of the situation. Jeff,
Speaker 1: What do you want to talk about the Neon artificial thing?
Speaker 1: Is there anything to say about that that Neon finally
Speaker 1: bought it, bought it for zero dollars? Anything to say
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 2: No, it's a it's a favorable deal for the filmmakers. Right.
Speaker 2: Amazon can basically write off the production costs. True, because
Speaker 2: obviously marketing and distribution is kind of like a different thing.
Speaker 2: So Neo is going to pay for that. It allows
Speaker 2: the creatives and all the actors to save face. Right,
Speaker 2: this isn't going to get thrown away. It's getting distribution
Speaker 2: from a you know, pretty solid company. Yeah, you know
Speaker 2: the full fest. I didn't understand that article today from
Speaker 2: Deadline where it's like, it's not going to go to
Speaker 2: the festival route, but it'll probably be at a festival.
Speaker 2: Like what you mean, Like, so it's not going to
Speaker 2: have a red carpet and a press conference, Like who cares?
Speaker 2: Like if it's at a festal is at a fucking
Speaker 2: festival exactly. I think that this will be at a festival.
Speaker 1: So okay, that article. There's one thing I want to
Speaker 1: talk about, but let's get to the questions and if
Speaker 1: we have time at the end, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1: So let's get to the questions. An over an hour
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Speaker 2: fall out the inside look like a hot mic patch
Speaker 2: on that one. Look at that. That's right real quick.
Speaker 2: Did you see before you get into your tib did
Speaker 2: you see what I wrote about the Spiderman box office tracking? Yes?
Speaker 1: I saw you say that the ridiculous, that the deadline
Speaker 1: article is ridiculous, and that it's probably going to come
Speaker 1: closer to to sixty you think possible?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think you're right, by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 2: one eighty is just such like a ridiculous low ball
Speaker 2: which is probably being fed to them from Sony and
Speaker 2: they can argue, yeah, it's three weeks out, like this
Speaker 2: number is gonna rise. Right, I'm gonna do way more
Speaker 2: than one eighty one ninety Come on.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 2: I mean, there are interesting factors. It's tough to compare
Speaker 2: it to the two sixty and twenty twenty one because
Speaker 2: everyone was so pent up in their homes. I can't
Speaker 2: sit like that. That's such a big factor, and everyone
Speaker 2: was just like rare in to get out and go
Speaker 2: see that movie. Yeah, I do like there's a lot
Speaker 2: of curiosity about the story. I still don't have any
Speaker 2: fucking idea what this movie's about. And I'm yeahider a
Speaker 2: lot of around Sadie Sink And I know the people
Speaker 2: who watch our show probably know who she's playing, but
Speaker 2: I think that the general public there's still a lot
Speaker 2: of mystery that Sony and I give Sony and Marvel
Speaker 2: credit for keeping. So there are elements as to why
Speaker 2: I could see this movie really working. But also, you know,
Speaker 2: there does seem to be a little bit of fatigue.
Speaker 2: The Odyssey is still, you know, gonna be in theaters
Speaker 2: this its third weekend. And again, sometimes when a movie
Speaker 2: is a huge hit, like The Odyssey's going to be,
Speaker 2: it gets people excited to go back to the movies, right,
Speaker 2: you know, like the way that Barbenheimer fed you know,
Speaker 2: those two movies fed each other. But right, I don't
Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll hit the same as No
Speaker 2: Way Home. Do you think it'll go higher than No
Speaker 2: Way Home? Uh?
Speaker 1: Two sixty? I here's what I think. I think it's
Speaker 1: very possible. And you know why, because so many of
Speaker 1: these big tent pole pictures have underperformed, and we can
Speaker 1: throw in Mawana now it seems like and so people
Speaker 1: have money, they didn't go and spend their money over
Speaker 1: and over again to go see these movies, Rightmando Grogu,
Speaker 1: Master's Universe, A Supergirl. A lot of these films have
Speaker 1: fallen flat on their face. Yeah, Obsessions did well, back
Speaker 1: Rooms did well. Maybe some of the money, maybe some
Speaker 1: of the money went there. But yeah, but I think
Speaker 1: I think it has a real chance of hitting the
Speaker 1: two sixty because people are starved for a movie like
Speaker 1: this and it's a four quadrant film and you've got
Speaker 1: Punisher and you've got Hulk, and you've got the Hand
Speaker 1: and you've got X Men. Stuff like that just screams
Speaker 1: you've got to see it opening weekend to talk about it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think one hundred and especially if the
Speaker 1: reviews or the first reactions are through the roof.
Speaker 2: I just do think those could make a difference here,
Speaker 2: at least to the casual Spider Man fans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Possilation right, like that's gonna help give this movie boost,
Speaker 2: even if it's ten or twenty million dollars. That if
Speaker 2: the admissions were the exact same, maybe the numbers ten
Speaker 2: or twenty higher. I think it'll be interesting. Uh, I'm
Speaker 2: not prepared to say it's definitely in the top two sixty,
Speaker 2: but I think it'll come very close.
Speaker 1: And ninety as a joke, Oh yeah, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree to seventy. I'll say two seventy five. Just to
Speaker 1: be crazy, I'll say that. Oh, let's get to the
Speaker 1: questions here, colts, it says love Jeff news letter on
Speaker 1: Ben and Matt's eighty four Olympics series. Any chance you
Speaker 1: could share the show's angle or is it still too early?
Speaker 1: What is this job? I didn't read this one.
Speaker 2: I don't have any angle, literally, you know. So I
Speaker 2: concluded this week the nineteen I got a nineteen page document,
Speaker 2: you know. A couple of weeks ago, I've been sharing
Speaker 2: the studio mandates. So I did share this one Artist
Speaker 2: Equities that was in the indie studio mandates one, which
Speaker 2: was also really interesting because it's like people generally know
Speaker 2: like what Universal or Disneys are looking for, right, has
Speaker 2: not any idea like what Artist Equity is looking for
Speaker 2: or some of these other smaller indie companies. So that
Speaker 2: was actually one of the more successful installments in that series.
Speaker 2: You know, it was all right there cults, so like,
Speaker 2: I didn't mess with the document All that was in
Speaker 2: there was that they're developing a show about the eighty
Speaker 2: four Olympics. There were no other details obviously, they weren't
Speaker 2: volunteering any additional details right out. So you know, it's
Speaker 2: good to know that you're interested in it. And I'll
Speaker 2: keep you posting if I hear anything but got nothing else.
Speaker 1: As someone who lived through the eighty four Olympics, I
Speaker 1: think it'd be There's so many great stories and the
Speaker 1: Bud green Span documentary on the eighty.
Speaker 2: Four Olympics is a must watch.
Speaker 1: So and it makes sense with Olympics coming to us
Speaker 1: in two years in La or in southern California, it
Speaker 1: makes all the sense of the world to do a
Speaker 1: series that kind of coincides with that.
Speaker 2: Smart How old were you at the eighty four Olympics?
Speaker 2: Thirty forty?
Speaker 1: I still look younger than you, bitch Anyway, Sam says,
Speaker 1: is it me or does the social reckoning look look blend?
Speaker 1: Why blab?
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 1: Why are these three successful actors coming off big roles
Speaker 1: doing this January concerned about it? Well, because it's fucking
Speaker 1: Aaron Sorkin, and it's a drama piece that could get
Speaker 1: you Oscar's love. That's really the only reason that's there.
Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, why are they doing this money?
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think the chance to recite some Aaron
Speaker 2: Sorkin dialogue and maybe, you know, play a part in
Speaker 2: a movie that could open a lot of eyeballs to
Speaker 2: what I'm doing in this world. But I too, am nervous. Again.
Speaker 2: You just can't help but compare it to the Social Network,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't look nearly as good. I just think
Speaker 2: that the story, like the story itself, doesn't seem all
Speaker 2: inter interesting. It would have been interesting if it hit
Speaker 2: five years ago. Right, They're like weed it. Yeah, Mikey, Madison,
Speaker 2: Jeremie and White. I'm pretty nervous. I have to say
Speaker 2: that's fair.
Speaker 1: I agree us send in your streamline to super that's
Speaker 1: as we go along. We will answer them as they
Speaker 1: come in here only twenty eight twenty nine of them.
Speaker 1: Come on, everybody sending your love. We're back after two weeks.
Speaker 1: You've been hold on to your money, so send us
Speaker 1: some love here on the show.
Speaker 2: Like when when you're watching a trailer for a drama
Speaker 2: like that, a prestige drama, and Bill Burr is the
Speaker 2: best one in the trailer. It's okay to be nervous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, that's fair. Sam says is a big
Speaker 1: football fan. I'm super happy we're getting Mister Irrelevant and
Speaker 1: Madden soon. Do you guys see these movies going to
Speaker 1: the Oscars?
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 1: I think, Jeff, you can answer this a little bit
Speaker 1: better than I can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Mister Irrelevant probably has a better chance
Speaker 2: than Madden. I don't even know if Madden's getting a
Speaker 2: theatrical release, right, it could be prime Yeah, that might
Speaker 2: just be a prime video release, which is wild to
Speaker 2: think about. Niacasun Christian Bale and David A. Russell. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think Mister Irrelevant. I've heard it's been testing through
Speaker 2: the roof. It looked great. The trailer that we saw
Speaker 2: a cinemat CinemaCon was fantastic. With a little bit of luck, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it could be a contender. There you go.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. We give all these movies the benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt every year, Oh, this is com this
Speaker 2: will be great, this would be great, and then like
Speaker 2: six out of ten of those movies are not very good.
Speaker 1: True, very true. Look, what's happened in the summer? We
Speaker 1: god six, Joseph claps says, with a lot of movies
Speaker 1: are performing so far in this summer. How do you
Speaker 1: both think the rest of the summer and the year
Speaker 1: will play out? Also, what do you think the future
Speaker 1: of James Cameron's Avatar is after Avatar five?
Speaker 2: You guys are great. I hope he's done with it
Speaker 2: after Avatar five. I can't. I mean, maybe someone else
Speaker 2: takes it over after James Cameron's death. Like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think we're wishing that.
Speaker 2: I don't think anything will happen after Avatar five for
Speaker 2: a while, and.
Speaker 1: We might not even get to Avatar five if Avatar
Speaker 1: four crashes at burn.
Speaker 2: So do I think will play out like box Office wise? Sure?
Speaker 2: I think Resident Evil and clay Face will be hit.
Speaker 2: I think Spider Man are gonna really work. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't have the best feeling about that. You and
Speaker 2: McGregor movie, hmm, okay, we'll see you know. Maybe that
Speaker 2: could surprise, but that's you know, I think maybe too expensive?
Speaker 2: Uh what else? When what else is.
Speaker 1: Coming out at the end of Oak Street? Do you
Speaker 1: think that's gonna do an anything.
Speaker 2: That's the movie I was just talking about.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, just showed up.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Very well, Dog Stars. Is that gonna do any well?
Speaker 2: All these I think all these August movies are fucked. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll be curious how actually Eli Roth's Ice Cream Man movie.
Speaker 2: Does you know? I wonder if that could put up
Speaker 2: some numbers given how hot horror is and just how
Speaker 2: hot like terrifier is because movie and he could use.
Speaker 1: A w Yeah, how do well? Was it how to
Speaker 1: Rob a Bank? Could that be a surprise hit or
Speaker 1: do you think that good?
Speaker 2: I've heard like good things about that movie. But I
Speaker 2: think that's going to be a challenge.
Speaker 1: I mean, Digger and social reckoning back to back.
Speaker 2: That you're is going to be very interesting. I think
Speaker 2: they're really trying to like appeal to to like the
Speaker 2: Red States with that movie. Oddly, now, oh okay, I
Speaker 2: just don't think that that's how you get that message home.
Speaker 2: Even it's like, yeah, I'm nervous about that one. They
Speaker 2: can't all these big swings, you know from Warner Brothers
Speaker 2: grant that they've had their their misses like The Bride
Speaker 2: and making them. But I think this is the one
Speaker 2: that's gonna bite them. We'll see, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think August and September we're gonna hit some some
Speaker 1: rough days, and then October I think it'll start to
Speaker 1: pick up a little bit, and then November. But I
Speaker 1: think I don't think. I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a good year for movies, Jeff, That's what
Speaker 1: I feel like. I don't know if the prestige films
Speaker 1: coming out in the fall necessarily have my attention the
Speaker 1: way that like Odyssey does or Dune does has really
Speaker 1: kind of banging out awards with the big boys.
Speaker 2: I don't know, sneak up on us. I think I
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be the movies like Being Human, which
Speaker 2: was announced as the opening if right, that's supposed to
Speaker 2: be a really good, like disability drama from from you
Speaker 2: know what's like the Pattinson movie actually prime time like
Speaker 2: h oh yeah, really fucking good like right.
Speaker 1: Well, Fjord. A lot of people think Fjord is going
Speaker 1: to do something because that Sebastian stand performance and the
Speaker 1: one I'm looking at elson Or, which finally I think
Speaker 1: got a distributor this week, and people are already talking
Speaker 1: about how it could be Andrew Scotpion nominated for Best Actors,
Speaker 1: so I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 2: That one too good. You know, that could be the
Speaker 2: The Ethan Hawk Blue Moon. But again, how many people
Speaker 2: are gonna go see that elsin or like with Andrew
Speaker 2: Scott Like just me? I guess?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like him.
Speaker 2: I like him to Yeah, I listen, he's an I respect.
Speaker 2: But is he somebody who's gonna get me into the
Speaker 2: theater for two hours for yeah? Or period movie? Probably not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's playing an actor from Charts of Fire and
Speaker 1: I love that movie, so that's why I want to
Speaker 1: see this. Well, samsus last one for me, but American
Speaker 1: Vanda was really great in my opinion. I know a
Speaker 1: lot of fans are confused about a Jimmy Olson and
Speaker 1: Gorilla Grod show coming before Batman and Wonder Woman, but
Speaker 1: this could really be awesome and original. Thanks as always
Speaker 1: for the awesome show guys. Thank you Sam for the
Speaker 1: kind of contributions. Uh yeah, Like I said, there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of stakes in this one. No one is
Speaker 1: putting any stakes into the show. They just want to
Speaker 1: have a good show, so there's more freedom. Plus, the
Speaker 1: American Vandal guys have a good track record, so and
Speaker 1: they fit James guns as humor of the universe that
Speaker 1: he wants to have. So it makes sense, you know.
Speaker 2: I like this yeah, because it's it's adjacent to this stuff.
Speaker 2: It's not like it has to fit into it, right,
Speaker 2: it can operate under its own rules, and I think
Speaker 2: that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: Well, Sam live, because he's got one more is Robert
Speaker 1: Eggers getting into Wes Anderson territory. Pretty much makes the
Speaker 1: same movies with the same style and the same actors,
Speaker 1: only just in a different setting. Yes, yeah, but I
Speaker 1: like his track record right now a little bit more
Speaker 1: than Wes's.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1: We'll see, though, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I'm not a big Aggers guy. Actually, okay, I'll see
Speaker 2: where Wolf, But it's not at the top of the
Speaker 2: list or anywhere close. You know. He makes beautiful looking films.
Speaker 2: I just yeah, the old English kills me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see, it's my it's my jam. I love that shit.
Speaker 2: So I like stuff that's sadly used to talk back
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty four, right exactly. Oh man, Josephine is
Speaker 2: still coming out. I saw Josephine I'm good on Josephine Kenniculton.
Speaker 1: I was at the store and found a one Wish Willow.
Speaker 1: I got more hot Mike merchandise that I know what
Speaker 1: to do with. I'm rich. Oh, there you go, nice nice.
Speaker 2: I would love to get my hands on one Wish Willow.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people got that obsession mailer,
Speaker 2: So if you are willing to sell me your I
Speaker 2: will buy it for There you.
Speaker 1: Go, Wiley says, sad and support thank you. Why not
Speaker 1: watch a lot because of the premiere of Big Brother. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'll enjoy that. I've never seen one episode of that
Speaker 1: show in my life.
Speaker 2: I am Big Brother. That's how I think.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm old brother, w W. Grat said fifty
Speaker 1: five years ago. Last week, Willie Wonka and the Chocolate
Speaker 1: Factory was released. Ranked these movies with candy Et, Caddyshack, Goonies, Wonka, Recket, Ralph.
Speaker 1: Fuck you threw Wonka in there? Lah, Well, everyone knows
Speaker 1: I don't like goonies, so I'll tell you for me.
Speaker 1: Caddy Shack, Recket, Ralph, Wonka Et, Goonies. That's my rank.
Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest et.
Speaker 2: Almost go the exact reverse. I think I goes Wonka, Caddy, Shack,
Speaker 2: E t Wreck, Itt Ralph.
Speaker 1: There you go, Kames say Jeffer, John Jeffany updates on
Speaker 1: Coogler's X Files. I thought there was a piece on
Speaker 1: that this week.
Speaker 2: The only pieces that they have done the pilot and
Speaker 2: they're waiting for a series pickup. I think, Okay, I
Speaker 2: think that they'll get it here. Because it's Coogler. You
Speaker 2: don't tell him no, right, you can tell Chloe Joao
Speaker 2: and Sarah Michelle Gailler.
Speaker 1: Now okay, Yeah, it was Himmi Spatel. He was on
Speaker 1: the Happy, Sad, Confused podcast because he was promoting an
Speaker 1: Nola Holmes three. We shot the pilot. It was very special,
Speaker 1: That's all I'll say. It was a very very special
Speaker 1: and we awaited decision, of course, but all I can
Speaker 1: tell you is that I add an incredible time.
Speaker 2: So that's that's basically all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what you just said for sure.
Speaker 2: Also, like Daniel Deadweiler, we're not talking about like I'll
Speaker 2: due respects to the lovely twelve year old girl who
Speaker 2: played Buffy, but it's a real show.
Speaker 1: I will say this. What's your thoughts? I mean, can
Speaker 1: ask you about the Millie Bobby Brown I mean her
Speaker 1: saying anything you want, Okay, I'm frustrated. Listen, I have
Speaker 1: been one of those guys that definitely championed women taking
Speaker 1: you know, being a lead in films, getting more opportunities.
Speaker 1: I've I've been on the record for that for years
Speaker 1: in this business and taking the ship for it out
Speaker 1: of fucking mind years years. But from freelancer to full
Speaker 1: time back to run my own shit, I've done it.
Speaker 1: But merely Bobby Brown saying we don't need a male
Speaker 1: Sherlock Holmes movie with Henry Cavill and Watson. I think
Speaker 1: Camas plays Watson.
Speaker 2: We don't need that.
Speaker 1: Men have had their time. I think this is phenomenally
Speaker 1: ignorant in a lot of ways. Look, I know Millie's
Speaker 1: opinionated whatever acting talent be damned, but like, there's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with having both. And I don't understand the need
Speaker 1: to shit on men who want to lead projects when
Speaker 1: you're not taking away the possibility of women leading project.
Speaker 1: And this is I think it's an irresponsible thing for
Speaker 1: her to say. In my opinion, I thought it was
Speaker 1: stupid and now because of a man. It's because you
Speaker 1: got totisfy all audiences and if the if the women
Speaker 1: leading stuff has right too's just so does a man, Like,
Speaker 1: what's the issue? I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's playing to her base, you know.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like it's a shrinking bass.
Speaker 2: I have to play to my base online and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: the trades are suck, the trades don't know what they're doing,
Speaker 2: blah blah. You know, if you hang you see me
Speaker 2: hanging out with like people of the trades and not
Speaker 2: like shitting on them, like in front of them. It's
Speaker 2: just it's like the role that I kind of have
Speaker 2: to play online. I think that everybody's playing role in
Speaker 2: the press. Yeah, and she's playing the grill power role
Speaker 2: that we don't need men.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I'm not you know, I'm not someone just
Speaker 1: said anti woke up. I'm not trying to be. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like, can't we all just find a happy
Speaker 1: medium and all get to do our projects and not
Speaker 1: because of our gender do we get stopped from being
Speaker 1: in a project. It's nonsense. But I also tell you
Speaker 1: all these people go nuts about the low Pizza Nago
Speaker 1: comments are morons because lu Pzza was just answered a
Speaker 1: question off the cuff and having fun with it anyway.
Speaker 1: Elliott Morris's how, John and Jeff What makes a great
Speaker 1: producer and how important is their role in the success
Speaker 1: of a film? Also, is moving to La or London,
Speaker 1: et cetera a must, bitch? If you could move to London,
Speaker 1: move to fucking London, absolutely, uh la and got shipped
Speaker 1: for you that London doesn't already have in spades?
Speaker 2: Is moving to I mean La? Yes? Moving? I think
Speaker 2: I think that you have to be here if you
Speaker 2: want to establish yourself, Like, yeah, probably I knew what
Speaker 2: I do from Boston, Yeah I can, But could I
Speaker 2: have done it the whole time from Boston. No. I
Speaker 2: needed to be here, make relationships, meet people like, established
Speaker 2: myself and now I can do it from wherever, right right?
Speaker 1: But a great produce What makes a great producer and
Speaker 1: important is their role in the film.
Speaker 2: I think it's being able to deliver bad news well
Speaker 2: like in a way that makes people come away feeling
Speaker 2: good about it. That's I.
Speaker 1: Would say decisiveness. And that is when shit's falling apart,
Speaker 1: can you jump in and troubleshoot it, make strong decisions
Speaker 1: and get it back on track. That's a really important
Speaker 1: job of a producer and part of that, as Jeff said,
Speaker 1: is also delivering bad news in not dragging it out,
Speaker 1: which causes more problems. You you make it clear that
Speaker 1: you're the authority, you know what's going on, and you
Speaker 1: get the job done and help the filmmaker get their
Speaker 1: vision realized. So yeah, Stephen Photo says, you think Reeves
Speaker 1: will make Ivy have powers?
Speaker 2: I hope? Well sure, right? Mmmmm No, I don't know
Speaker 2: what kind of powers would she have?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean she can, you know, manipulate plants?
Speaker 2: No, right, all right, manipulate plants like that?
Speaker 1: I mean because Pengwin doesn't.
Speaker 2: Have powers, you see that in the Reeves universe.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have to expand You, dude, you
Speaker 1: can only go so far with Batman before you have
Speaker 1: to do the powers.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't go much farther. What am I going to
Speaker 1: believe that a maniacally insane person can't die like the
Speaker 1: Joker over and over again, even though the Batman kicks
Speaker 1: the shit out of him all the time. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense. Eventually, the fantastical has to bleed into the
Speaker 1: Batman universe.
Speaker 2: Why can't she I don't know, like have access to
Speaker 2: all like these poisonous plants, treat whatever the fuck it is. Right,
Speaker 2: she has this arsenal and she kills like I don't
Speaker 2: need to like when you say controls plants like she
Speaker 2: can make like the plants move like yes, yes, that's
Speaker 2: the pal I don't see that happening.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see a show about a horticulturist.
Speaker 1: No offense, I'm really good. I'm not really good with that.
Speaker 1: Give me something else, Petro says, can when can we
Speaker 1: expect the trailer for Behemoth? Have you heard anything about it?
Speaker 2: No, Jeff, Uh, I don't know when we can expect
Speaker 2: a trailer. Okay, you know, let me think, what are
Speaker 2: the big Searchlight movies coming out?
Speaker 1: What can you say, Tony Gilroy film?
Speaker 2: I think you'll probably see you one around September, I
Speaker 2: would imagine. Okay, it's if this is gonna come out
Speaker 2: in December. I think it's gonna be an Awards contender.
Speaker 1: Paymoth. Okay, I'm looking on Wikipedia. I don't even see
Speaker 1: a release date on here.
Speaker 2: I've heard Ava Victor could be up for supporting actress.
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll see okay, all right, all right, we'll see
Speaker 3: uh all right, Fred what's up friend to say hot Mike,
Speaker 3: has either of you had a quote source ask you.
Speaker 1: To hold the scoop but spill it elsewhere? Sounds dirty,
Speaker 1: but people can be crooked, Jeff, I mean.
Speaker 2: Had a source as I mean, if they're the source,
Speaker 2: why would they.
Speaker 1: Maybe they've told maybe they've told more than one person.
Speaker 2: No, I don't really find that sources do that. Okay,
Speaker 2: Like I don't like, why would they like? You would
Speaker 2: do that? If you? If like sometimes they'll give a
Speaker 2: trade reporter a tip and the reporter lasts the studio,
Speaker 2: the stuio, I'll be like, you know that deals not closed?
Speaker 2: Can you hold right? And for their relationship hold But
Speaker 2: meanwhile the agent is calling the trade reporter being like,
Speaker 2: YO really need this out there. It's gonna like I
Speaker 2: need it for the negotiation and everything, And the trade
Speaker 2: reporter doesn't want to ruffle the feathers of the studio.
Speaker 2: In that case, maybe the trade reporter who needs to
Speaker 2: get this story out to make his source tappy, can't
Speaker 2: get it out because you don't want to piss off
Speaker 2: the studio. Maybe they'll call the in snyder do there
Speaker 2: either do their dirty work by putting this story out
Speaker 2: there or have me call because when I call right
Speaker 2: that triggers right fucking domino effect. And then this sud
Speaker 2: is like, all right, trade reporter who's been holding it?
Speaker 2: You can go with it now because Jeff Snyder is
Speaker 2: calling about it, and we know if he calls, he's
Speaker 2: gonna post him right sort of how that works. And
Speaker 2: then I just guilt trip them into giving me something
Speaker 2: else because I got like, good point, I surprised the
Speaker 2: story hastil. Let me check the email just to make
Speaker 2: sure there's a I got a big tip yesterday about
Speaker 2: the peek story, and I called the studio and they're like,
Speaker 2: trades are on it. Do you want to do an
Speaker 2: even break in like an hour? And I'm like no,
Speaker 2: Like an even break does nothing for me, right, Like
Speaker 2: why would I go at the same time as two
Speaker 2: trades that have like millions of followers right right get overshadowed?
Speaker 2: So I could either in that moment, I'd neither be
Speaker 2: an asshole and say Nope, doesn't work for me tweeting
Speaker 2: it right now because I don't have it. I didn't
Speaker 2: have a story ready either, which is going to take me.
Speaker 2: I can't just get a story out in three in
Speaker 2: ninety seconds like I used to be able to on
Speaker 2: like the Variety scene master, the rap cms. It takes
Speaker 2: me a half hour to do the photos and all
Speaker 2: the sen now essentially for the newsletter. So either tweet
Speaker 2: it out right now, or I can say, all right, studio,
Speaker 2: let the trades have that story. You owe me something
Speaker 2: else for not being an asshole and tweeting it right now.
Speaker 2: ELI made yesterday, but it's like now it's twenty four,
Speaker 2: thirty six hours have gone by. I thought that the
Speaker 2: other trades were gonna do that story. I told them
Speaker 2: this morning. You the story, I'm gonna do it. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna call that studio back and be like, hey, I
Speaker 2: know I said i'd stand down, but this is not
Speaker 2: an indefinite offer, Like, yeah, yeah, this is news. And
Speaker 2: when I the more I think about it, I think
Speaker 2: it's gonna be really tough for you to come up
Speaker 2: with a piece of news to appease me. That's as
Speaker 2: big as the piece of news that I'm sitting on.
Speaker 2: So like, the more I think about it, the more
Speaker 2: I'm regretting it. But yeah, deals your word. If I
Speaker 2: get my word in this down, I gave it.
Speaker 1: You take it to the Bank hashtag biz is getting
Speaker 1: it now out now, Jeff and John. If in Dan
Speaker 1: Naborett does end up joining the MCU, I could see
Speaker 1: her as Polaris Rogue, even Kitty Prime, I'd be shocked.
Speaker 2: It's like, I can't be I know who Batman is.
Speaker 2: It's one of these three people, answer.
Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if anyone out of these three were
Speaker 1: who Indie plays.
Speaker 2: She can play.
Speaker 1: It occurred to me that she could play the Rose
Speaker 1: Burn character, the Moira McTaggart character, and they might make
Speaker 1: her a bigger part if they were do that with
Speaker 1: that Moira mctagger I'm just saying they could make her
Speaker 1: a bit of an interesting antagonist.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Golden Donuts says. Recently, I spoke to a friend whose
Speaker 1: uncle was a Disney exec. She told me the really
Speaker 1: Scott Alien feud started pre robulous and that barely got made. Okay,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised by that by I heard Alien
Speaker 1: has a director.
Speaker 2: I heard it. I don't know who, okay, unless Duffield
Speaker 2: is doing himself, but I don't know whether that's Uh,
Speaker 2: it could be Ridley.
Speaker 1: As I said, it does it rhyme with Schmidley. Smott
Speaker 1: is that who could be?
Speaker 2: It might be I don't know, but I do think
Speaker 2: that there's something weird going on with Ridley in that franchise.
Speaker 2: He's very protective of it. He's so protective baby you
Speaker 2: should be, but I could.
Speaker 1: I mean, I could believe that if you put out
Speaker 1: five really great films, but you didn't. So I don't
Speaker 1: know understand being so possessive about it. It's weird. Uh.
Speaker 1: Steven t Photo says, do you think that now the
Speaker 1: narrative about gun DC in Trouble is also further by
Speaker 1: peace making creature commandos and not I having great viewership
Speaker 1: with Nielsen? Yes, I do think that's a piece of it.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the old because like most casuals
Speaker 1: don't know these shows and watch these shows.
Speaker 2: Certainly, I think that's completely false, and frankly, I don't
Speaker 2: think anybody gives a shit about the viewership for those numbers.
Speaker 1: Within the fandom.
Speaker 2: Within the fandom, Okay, within the fandom like the DC fandom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say it does matter within the DC
Speaker 1: fanom I do, But.
Speaker 2: Like, does the DC fandom think that like regular people
Speaker 2: are watching these shows?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, But I'm saying, I think
Speaker 1: it hurts him with the DC fandom because they do
Speaker 1: watch these shows, and so I think it does hurt
Speaker 1: him there, not with the casuals, but certainly with the
Speaker 1: hardcore fans.
Speaker 2: Yere fans are sitting there thinking why isn't everybody like
Speaker 2: me and watching this show? This reflects poorly on James
Speaker 2: gun No.
Speaker 1: I think what they're saying is I didn't the fact
Speaker 1: that the viewership is down on both of these shows.
Speaker 1: It shows that even the hardcore fandom did not come
Speaker 1: back for second season.
Speaker 2: I think, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that says something that.
Speaker 2: That is a poor reflection I would say when viewership's
Speaker 2: going down between one and two. But it's also indicative
Speaker 2: of the larger TV trend which we saw from Bloomberg
Speaker 2: right with the Netflix number. Yes, yes, and again like
Speaker 2: how many if I went down my TV list right
Speaker 2: now of the shows that I tried to watch this
Speaker 2: year and watched one or two or three or four
Speaker 2: episodes and then that was like something else came up.
Speaker 2: You know, the show I wanted to watch more gone
Speaker 2: away and now I haven't gone back to finish. Like
Speaker 2: there's so many of those shows and that's the way
Speaker 2: television is these days here.
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right. I mean the Agency came out
Speaker 1: with season two. We blazed through it in three days.
Speaker 1: No one's talking about it. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: I've actually heard it's amazing. I so I was pumped
Speaker 2: to get that those screeners, all right, it was like,
Speaker 2: holy shait near my schedule I started. I haven't made
Speaker 2: it my well way through one episode. What I've watched
Speaker 2: half of the first episode because it is so dense
Speaker 2: and I need to pay attention, right right. I don't
Speaker 2: just want to like half ass and do it while
Speaker 2: I'm doing the newsletter. So, yeah, you tell me, what
Speaker 2: is it like? Great? Is it better than season one?
Speaker 1: It's better than season one?
Speaker 2: I'm Miles's gross.
Speaker 1: Sorry. I would say this because season one had to
Speaker 1: lay the groundwork for everything, and season two now takes
Speaker 1: off and there's a lot of like double agent intrigue
Speaker 1: shit in this one. And John mcgaro gets a really
Speaker 1: good spotlight throughout the second season, and I like John mcgaro.
Speaker 1: But there's new characters coming in that's really interesting, including
Speaker 1: the guy who is the lethal weapon TV series guy
Speaker 1: who got fired off the show.
Speaker 2: Oh he's great clean Crawford.
Speaker 1: He's the villain in this series in the season. I
Speaker 1: didn't I did not know that that guy's yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And his sister in the film is an actress who
Speaker 1: is Jose Ferrera's grand niece so to speak. So she's
Speaker 1: in this playing his sister. And I think she's great
Speaker 1: in the show. So it's awesome. And Jeffrey Wright, oh
Speaker 1: my god, they give him so much.
Speaker 2: To do this season.
Speaker 1: Dude, it's really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, get through it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch that show. Well.
Speaker 1: It also helps to have a partner because she loves
Speaker 1: the show. After every episode, we're like, Okay, who's where,
Speaker 1: Who's where? So we know where we're at. Yeah. Lyncha
Speaker 1: Drives says, anything about script of Batman two, is it
Speaker 1: good or bad? Jeff you heard anything about the script
Speaker 1: of Batman two.
Speaker 2: I've heard it's good. I don't think if they took
Speaker 2: five years to write a bad script and then attract.
Speaker 1: Fan says is if clay Face is a hit? Wait?
Speaker 1: Is clay Face a hit? If it makes two hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars like other horror films, I know it will
Speaker 1: be in profit, but does DC needed to be higher,
Speaker 1: not for a forty million. I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Jack the Break even, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, two hundred.
Speaker 2: I think you're gold at two hundred. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think Saffron and James are poorn want champagne on
Speaker 1: each other. But it's two hundred for sure.
Speaker 2: I think it'll I think it's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: La Steeler says, if India is gonna do superhero stuff,
Speaker 1: I would hope it's with directors like Reeves Coogler. Maybe
Speaker 1: she can play Ivy for Reeves and run for an
Speaker 1: Awards Emmy. But there's no guarantee Reeves is going to
Speaker 1: direct that series, right, Like it was Laura le Front
Speaker 1: who did Penguin, so it could be someone else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I I don't know. I mean, if
Speaker 2: she was doing a DC show, I'd like to see
Speaker 2: her play Zatana. Oh yeah, I do think that would
Speaker 2: be actually kind of cool, like her as a magician.
Speaker 1: I agree that would work. I like that idea. I
Speaker 1: know where your head's going though, really, which we can't
Speaker 1: say out loud. Edgar Mangana says, any Terminator News T
Speaker 1: two is the best action movie ever. Well, it's coming out,
Speaker 1: isn't it?
Speaker 2: On?
Speaker 1: Uh in theaters.
Speaker 2: Jeff, Yeah, re release agreed, ta too is amazing, just amazing.
Speaker 1: I did the nineties movie draft with the extra movie
Speaker 1: butter podcast invited. I can't believe that that's insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, jto what's going on? Nineties movie podcast? You didn't
Speaker 2: think to have me and Rocca. Who was the other
Speaker 2: guy on the podcast?
Speaker 1: It was the guy who runs Cinemojis dj uh and
Speaker 1: ty Ty was on from the group. By the way,
Speaker 1: Cinamojis wants us on to battle each other, me and
Speaker 1: you for his show.
Speaker 2: I told him I talked to you about it, so
Speaker 2: then we'll do you anywhere? You know?
Speaker 1: Stephen Photos is Tiana Taylor my fan cast for a
Speaker 1: Bond Girl?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think Yeah, goe Kinsman, thank you
Speaker 2: for noticing.
Speaker 1: There you go. Edgar macganda says, what horror slasher franchise
Speaker 1: do we need a modern remake for? I'd love to
Speaker 1: see a reimagining a Pumpkin It or Cheaper Creeper, Cheaper
Speaker 1: Screepers done properly.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, what.
Speaker 1: The fuck is modern remake? Those films were in the
Speaker 1: nineties two tho. It's not not modern. Are we not
Speaker 1: saying it's not modern anymore.
Speaker 2: In the nineties, heads old what what I grew up on? Honestly,
Speaker 2: I grew up on the movies and the goolies movies.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, I would like to see Google's crawling up
Speaker 2: people's asses again. Critters was badass, Yeah, man, it sells
Speaker 2: some plushells. Critics could be the new Laboo boos what
Speaker 2: they were? They're rebooting howling poisonous plants. I'll just announced
Speaker 2: that they're doing. What the fuck is the other one?
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, Ship the Birds? They're redoing
Speaker 2: the birds. I know that that's not okay. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Exorcist certainly is happening again.
Speaker 2: Fantastic Blade, Discuss Phantasm show right right?
Speaker 1: Fuck Punking Ahead is eighty eight? Damn I thought that
Speaker 1: was in the nineties.
Speaker 2: Ship Why did I bet Trey sour cream and Cheddar chips?
Speaker 2: Let me tell you I'm all inclusive. I don't. There's
Speaker 2: not a chip I discriminate against. What is What is
Speaker 2: pan sexual? Is that when you're attracted to everybody?
Speaker 1: I think so, I don't. I don't really, I don't really.
Speaker 2: Know I'm a pan sexual.
Speaker 1: If Steven tfone Crime one to one did not do
Speaker 1: well in terms of heat and two interest. Yeah, of
Speaker 1: course that's what I said, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if Crime one to one had Leonardo DiCaprio
Speaker 2: in it instead of Chris Hemsworth, would couldn't have done
Speaker 2: as well as it did.
Speaker 1: Probably Christian Bale. Yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, plus heat has built in you know.
Speaker 1: Fan base.
Speaker 2: Good point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Reggie Brown says guy shouldn't check out Netflix show Nemesis,
Speaker 1: a heat ish type show. I was waiting to see
Speaker 1: if I got renewed for a season two and it did.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of the show?
Speaker 2: Uh? That looks actually cool. I gave a moments, I
Speaker 2: gave it a moment to think about watching it. I
Speaker 2: ultimately did not, But oh, I think I think that
Speaker 2: that's the kind of show that performs very well with
Speaker 2: black audiences.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I watched the trailer and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this ain't for me, So I don't know. Maybe I'll
Speaker 1: give it a shot. Maybe I'll give a shot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: power right exactly. Dux is Roca, Norway is my favorite
Speaker 1: country because if it's sweet people in natural beauty, what
Speaker 1: are their chances they can win it?
Speaker 2: All? Love?
Speaker 1: Their chance? Zero zero chances?
Speaker 2: Give me the power rankings ROCA of which.
Speaker 1: Teams who's gonna win? France is gonna win, that's number one.
Speaker 1: And they took care of Morocco today to No. Two
Speaker 1: beautiful goals one point Bape and den Bela getting the
Speaker 1: second goal. I think tomorrow, wait, hold on, let me
Speaker 1: get this, uh tomorrow, let me see the scores here,
Speaker 1: because I'm want to make sure I get it right here.
Speaker 1: I can't do a watch along tomorrow sadly, but I
Speaker 1: think France, what is it Spain? Spain will beat Belgium,
Speaker 1: I think for sure. And then Saturday, I think England
Speaker 1: beats Norway what the fuck is wrong with this? This
Speaker 1: ESPN and then Argentine Argentina beat Switzerland and then it
Speaker 1: becomes I mean, but listen, if England and Argentina play
Speaker 1: Baton down to hatches, I think England does win, but
Speaker 1: Batton down the hatches. I think it's going to be
Speaker 1: France England in the final if that's how the bracket is, right,
Speaker 1: because France, yeah, France would oh sorry, yeah, France will
Speaker 1: play Spain. In my opinion, England will play Argentina. I
Speaker 1: think England beats Argentina and then it's England, France, and
Speaker 1: I think that game is going to be an incredible game.
Speaker 2: Okay, and we'll find out about it on John Roga's
Speaker 2: next podcast, The Truth.
Speaker 1: There you go, you asked about it? Uh, frand Tasta
Speaker 1: two more billion animations with Hexton Wildwood.
Speaker 2: I don't know about them making a billion dollars Wildwood. Look,
Speaker 2: it looks like the best movie of the year. Honestly,
Speaker 2: if you told me see Doomsday or Wildwood, I would
Speaker 2: see Wildwood. Shit. Okay, it looks ridiculous. And it's two
Speaker 2: hours and twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's why it's not gonna make a billion dollars.
Speaker 1: People don't want to sit in an animated film for
Speaker 1: two and a half hours.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't be a fathom entertainment. So make a
Speaker 2: million dollars. But either one does fantastic. Okay, what's next?
Speaker 1: Tim Bino says Josh Wilding versus Mike Kalinowski, who wins?
Speaker 1: If you know?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I don't know who Josh Wilding is. Do you know
Speaker 1: Josh Wilding is?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Comic book writer?
Speaker 1: Oh were they fighting?
Speaker 2: Ye? Right? I I don't know, Okay, I want to
Speaker 2: go Mike Kalanowski.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll go with Kalanowski. Sounds good. Steven t Photo. Also,
Speaker 1: no way Home didn't get China release a brand new
Speaker 1: day will Oh, that's a great point.
Speaker 2: All right, that's world. We're just talking about domestic opening.
Speaker 2: By the way. That right, so it really has nothing
Speaker 2: to do with China.
Speaker 1: True. Uh greenef Walls good a Roca political ones stumbled
Speaker 1: across this new algorithm created with AI to create the
Speaker 1: massive left right conflict. Look up the Sarah Nissima directive
Speaker 1: on the Duke Report Divide and Conquer. All right, Grinney,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take a look at it. Hold on a second,
Speaker 1: would you say.
Speaker 2: Or not? This seems like a plood for some weird thing.
Speaker 1: I'll take a look at it exactly ho Jets. Could
Speaker 1: Indian ever take the Born role from Zendaia? No, I
Speaker 1: don't think so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that'd be a little risky.
Speaker 1: Da has more of a resume. Indy has one film
Speaker 1: that's announced her and Zenda has much more of a resume.
Speaker 2: I would throw Indy something, I'm telling you, if I'm Apple,
Speaker 2: I would throw her some of these Jennifer Lawrence movies
Speaker 2: that are cooking up.
Speaker 1: Fair Fair Galliant production says Hurd. The edit isn't going
Speaker 1: well for Doomsday Campion Camp. I love how he tries
Speaker 1: to play like he's got sources. I heard the edit.
Speaker 1: I heard the edit. Everybody watch Campion.
Speaker 2: I think I think the editor will be fine. I'm
Speaker 2: not too worried about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna wait till the first scritics. Uh doesn't
Speaker 1: J Dwayne Johnson have a movie with J. J. Abrams?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Is that still happening, Jeff? I didn't hear anything about that.
Speaker 1: Okay, Massis to McCall, Jeff, did you like Citizen Vigilante?
Speaker 1: The car scene was funny. Bad favorite Ouve movie mine
Speaker 1: is Rampage. The ending monologue freaked me out when I
Speaker 1: was a teen.
Speaker 2: It did like Citizen Vigilante.
Speaker 1: Oh, Jeff, goddamn it, Jeff.
Speaker 2: Saying that listen, not a very well made movie or
Speaker 2: well messaged movie. I'm not here to talk about what's
Speaker 2: a good message or a bad message. I think it
Speaker 2: was an I am message, And I think that Hammer
Speaker 2: is a compelling actor.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, more compelling than pretty much anybody who's had to
Speaker 2: work with. I like nineteen sixty eight Tunnel Rats. If
Speaker 2: you've ever seen that movie from move I thought that
Speaker 2: was actually a really creative movie. Fucking did Kong popping
Speaker 2: up in tunnels all over the place? Nutty nutty movie?
Speaker 1: Did you did you believe what came out this week
Speaker 1: that Armie Hammer said the film was disgusting or not
Speaker 1: his thing? What did he say? He calls it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I mean, you're you didn't see the final cut? Hey,
Speaker 1: here you are doing Q and a's for the fucking movie.
Speaker 2: You're there on the couch killing people. What do you
Speaker 2: mean everyone? You're just shooting people. I think he knew
Speaker 2: what he was getting into and signing up for with
Speaker 2: U Bowl. If if he didn't, that's on him, right,
Speaker 2: Like I could have told him, yeah, well me next time.
Speaker 2: I think he's kind of doing it to save face
Speaker 2: for the Hollywood people who he's now like trying to
Speaker 2: get hired by. Right, this was the way, Hey, I
Speaker 2: made somebody a lot of money. Probably, right, there's clearly
Speaker 2: some audiences who will still fuck with me. Now. I'm
Speaker 2: looking to come back and work within the system again,
Speaker 2: because otherwise I gotta outside with this fucking crazy German
Speaker 2: gidole for the rest of my life. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: that's why you say some of these quotes. But I
Speaker 2: think he was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course he did. And I think this is shitty,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, because I mean that that
Speaker 1: that puff piece of a THHR article was ridiculous with some.
Speaker 2: Of the my kids to kill, I'm a dad, feel
Speaker 2: simply companion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was ridiculous, and I was like, this is nonsense, man,
Speaker 1: It's so transparantent, so see through. But to come out
Speaker 1: now and bite that. I think he didn't know this
Speaker 1: film was going to get retweeted by Elon Musk. I
Speaker 1: didn't think, you know. I think he didn't think this
Speaker 1: film was going to blow up like it did in
Speaker 1: the way that it he did either. Now he's got
Speaker 1: to own it, and I think he's trying to walk
Speaker 1: away from it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does have to own it, and I think
Speaker 2: he'll be back for a sequel. Like that's really like
Speaker 2: the toll, right, like really yeah, I think that there
Speaker 2: will absolutely financially, there's reason for there to be a sequel. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And he really have to have something else going for
Speaker 2: him to just walk away from this, like because you
Speaker 2: can walk recast anybody with this. You can really cast
Speaker 2: any canceled actor quite frankly, ask Kevin Spacey as the
Speaker 2: next that's true. You would do it performance probably, and
Speaker 2: you know, but I just I'm just saying, yeah, the
Speaker 2: politics are ugly.
Speaker 1: It's an anti immigrant film, Jeff, I'm the son of immigrants.
Speaker 1: It's fucking horrific, man.
Speaker 2: But that's exploitation movies like There's There has there's a
Speaker 2: place for this kind of movie and it and it
Speaker 2: didn't set off I mean, Death Wish created think pieces
Speaker 2: back in the day, of course, but.
Speaker 1: I think that's a better made film, just like Falling Down.
Speaker 2: There has to be a level of artistry those better
Speaker 2: made films, of course, right.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm getting it. There has to you're
Speaker 1: gonna do with this theme, you need directors who understand
Speaker 1: how to walk that line of provocation. But also Thought
Speaker 1: and Move doesn't have that.
Speaker 2: I agree, But again, I've seen so much worse movies
Speaker 2: this year, like for Real, like fair watchable. It was good.
Speaker 2: I found it watchable. Maybe I'm grading on a curve
Speaker 2: because it's of them.
Speaker 1: You don't want to get you don't want to get
Speaker 1: beat up again.
Speaker 2: Maybe no, it's not that I'm like, if this guy's
Speaker 2: really that bad dude, like you got to give him
Speaker 2: like the benefit of the doubt. It's like greeting like
Speaker 2: a moron's term paper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't like the fact that he did
Speaker 1: a Reddit and then stormed off. Bro, come on, man,
Speaker 1: if you're going to talk about.
Speaker 2: Being antagonistic, right, don't talk about it. I'm not here
Speaker 2: to talk about all this other ship. I want to
Speaker 2: talk about the movie that we were to talk about.
Speaker 2: And then people won't let him.
Speaker 1: I think you got to have the balls to sit
Speaker 1: and get in there and take the hits. There's something
Speaker 1: good about standing in the hits and push him back.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying storming off doesn't show me a balls,
Speaker 1: it shows me a sense of.
Speaker 2: I think he's a brilliant marketer in studios.
Speaker 1: Probably right. Derek Johnson, Thank you, Derek. Good to see
Speaker 1: you again throwing some support. Thank you, Derek. You're very
Speaker 1: very kind, my friend you DJ Yeah, it's always good
Speaker 1: to see a galliot. I got all the faith in lay.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, we'll see I mean the episodes,
Speaker 2: and I'd give him honest feedback. Sorry God, jam.
Speaker 1: Dougsa this prediction obsession is such a global phenomenon that
Speaker 1: Curry Barker will sadly be the victim of the Jordan Peelkur.
Speaker 1: So much pressure on film number two? Do you think
Speaker 1: there's pressure, dude, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: He didn't anticipate this. He didn't make this film for
Speaker 1: a shit ton of money. Like I think there's he's
Speaker 1: playing with house money right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever he wants. I don't think there's any pressure
Speaker 2: on the next movie because it's not in response to
Speaker 2: this movie. It was already in and it's him and
Speaker 2: Cooper starring. Is you don't even have someone like Indy Navarette,
Speaker 2: Like it's right, yeah, you have Aaron Paul But yeah,
Speaker 2: I just I don't think it's gonna be looked at
Speaker 2: like that. I think it will be the one after that. Yes,
Speaker 2: he was making for Universal A.
Speaker 1: Jay Scott, Jay Scotty, good to see brother. You guys
Speaker 1: see The Sheep Detectives or Tuner, both of in my
Speaker 1: top ten for the year so far. Both also directors.
Speaker 1: I first saw in Bottoms, which is easily one of
Speaker 1: the best comedies in the last five years. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen either of these movies, and I need to watch them,
Speaker 1: including Bottoms Jeff.
Speaker 2: Jay Scotty, I like you, but yeah, Bottoms is bad.
Speaker 2: I like both the Sheep Detectives and Tuner. I think
Speaker 2: I like the Sheep Detectives a little bit more. Was good,
Speaker 2: but like Tuner should have been better. It was ended
Speaker 2: a little like an underwhelming note. He was good though
Speaker 2: Leo at all, and Leo was fantastic. I just thought
Speaker 2: I think I enjoyed the Sheep Detectives a little bit
Speaker 2: more overall, I think I remember crying at the end
Speaker 2: of Sheep's Sheep Detectives.
Speaker 1: You've been crying a lot lately. Have you seen someone
Speaker 1: about that little pitch?
Speaker 2: I didn't say that. I'm not trying to shame you.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I'm in touch with my emotions.
Speaker 1: It's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2: I think that's great. I'm championed that.
Speaker 1: No, because you said you most recent feel me. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the invite you said you cried the end credit to
Speaker 1: the invite and Joy? Oh yeah, I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: who didn't cry?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 1: Buck Teeth Bandon. Have you either of you heard about
Speaker 1: how production is going for Either Man of Tomorrow Batman
Speaker 1: Part two? Thanks as always and great show. Thank you
Speaker 1: buck teeth. They're halfway through Man tomorrow, but no one
Speaker 1: seems to be complaining about anything, and I think they've
Speaker 1: just barely started Batman too. So what do you thought
Speaker 1: to Jeff anything.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard anything about either one, but obviously the
Speaker 2: photo that came out about mister mister stan.
Speaker 1: Right shaved head.
Speaker 2: He could technically have a shaved in dent to put
Speaker 2: a Week one.
Speaker 1: Movie junkies for Jeff went dropping the scoop. How do
Speaker 1: you decide between labeling it and exclusive versus the hot RUMA?
Speaker 2: Uh, it typically has to do with sourcing and the
Speaker 2: confidence in that sourcing or how the studio you know,
Speaker 2: would either like it presented right, like, oh, we don't
Speaker 2: have a deal yet, you know, okay, but he's getting
Speaker 2: the offer or he's making you know, making a deal,
Speaker 2: so right, positions remembory. Just yeah, it depends on who
Speaker 2: the tip comes from, what's the story, and whether it's
Speaker 2: done or not or surely whether it's confirmed or not,
Speaker 2: right like for Vendetta and these stories say no no
Speaker 2: comment in them, but that's just a no comment on
Speaker 2: the record, right, So yeah, that was confirmed. That's why
Speaker 2: I got exclusive.
Speaker 1: And not hot there's comments that come along.
Speaker 2: I would have put I would have put exclusive on
Speaker 2: the gorilla grod thing. If it's always after the fact
Speaker 2: you find out what's really up right, like right, like
Speaker 2: you're you're dealing with like okay, just to generalize, you're
Speaker 2: dealing with after steps and they're like, ah, you know
Speaker 2: you're on the right track, man, but like you know,
Speaker 2: we're not quite yeah, we're still far ways off. And
Speaker 2: then like four days later it's like, man, they used
Speaker 2: a wrong headshot, Like okay, so it's done. Then like
Speaker 2: you know what, say, I think that kind of a
Speaker 2: thing I could have used earlier on.
Speaker 1: Right if you wanted to. Of course, all right, let's
Speaker 1: see what's the next one. Uh, Brice gotcha to go.
Speaker 2: To the go to the Figs twelve ten comment, Can
Speaker 2: we skip to that one?
Speaker 1: The main one is that in the main chat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems there's been movement, Okay.
Speaker 1: Figs twelve ten says it seems there's been movement on
Speaker 1: the MCU Nova series, with Michael Walter now listed as writer,
Speaker 1: who would you cast as Nova?
Speaker 2: Brandon's gonna.
Speaker 1: There you go over? Oh you don't want to?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, point you take your chances and roll the
Speaker 2: dice that you're going to be Batman if Batman's your
Speaker 2: a if they ever make Batman over there, or you
Speaker 2: can actually be a fucking supergirl from Marvel. Take your pick.
Speaker 2: Se what about I was Marvel, I would go after
Speaker 2: him before you know, DC can get pause on him.
Speaker 2: But I was actually clued into the Waldron thing here, Okay,
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it was I don't know if
Speaker 2: it was a w GA filing or whatever that revealed
Speaker 2: him as the writer on the show. I think that
Speaker 2: Waldron is also going to wind up with credits on
Speaker 2: the Avengers movies. Oh okay, which might be because I
Speaker 2: don't know if it is. I don't know if somebody's
Speaker 2: rumored that yet, but I believe Waldron may have come.
Speaker 1: In, okay with the writing of those Genders movies.
Speaker 2: What about Ali g We talked about alg yet.
Speaker 1: I mean, we still got thirty more questions?
Speaker 2: Yes, what do you want to talk about with that
Speaker 2: thirty more questions?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got a few questions.
Speaker 2: Waiting about the number of questions that we have. Now
Speaker 2: we have thirty more.
Speaker 1: We're up to sixty now, so go ahead, man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know I'm trying to get through that. You keep
Speaker 1: taking it from you, just taking it time, You keep
Speaker 1: taking five minutes answering his question. I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: through them, but go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yes, were you surprised by that news that he's doing
Speaker 2: a movie that he did one?
Speaker 1: No, I'm not surprised by that news at all. It's
Speaker 1: it's Sasha Baron Cohen. Man. If there's anyone who believes
Speaker 1: in Sasha Baron Cohen, it's Sasha Baron Cohen, and so.
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that he did it. Yeah, yes, it's
Speaker 2: it's actually been screening, so that's another thing. Oh story right,
Speaker 2: I say, Oh, it's wrapped, because that's all I can prove.
Speaker 2: It's all I know. Soon as I put that out there,
Speaker 2: I hear from all these people, Oh yeah, it's been screening. Fuck.
Speaker 2: Some people didn't, you know, want to share their reaction
Speaker 2: or whatever. But I did hear. This is a very
Speaker 2: thin wisp of just something from the movie. And I
Speaker 2: don't know we're talking about. They say that there's a
Speaker 2: generated ai of either Mandela or Obama, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: guess it's Obama because I don't think that most people
Speaker 2: even know what Mandela looks like not anymore, right, so
Speaker 2: like it's probably an Ai Obama, which I wonder if
Speaker 2: that will make headlines now that I've said it on here.
Speaker 1: It could be a problem.
Speaker 2: Guarantee that it's Obama. They said it was Obama or Mandela,
Speaker 2: but I'm assuming.
Speaker 1: All right the film was shot in secret. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, let's do these questions.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, all right, any t Bryce Scotch, you
Speaker 1: want any insider t on shows the Blood and Bone.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know the author took her name. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought it. I was like excited going in right,
Speaker 2: going into that panel, I was like, this is gonna
Speaker 2: be a fucking like watch out for this movie. Right
Speaker 2: saw that footage and my heart sank. I was just
Speaker 2: I don't think this looks very good.
Speaker 1: It's never a good sign when an author takes their
Speaker 1: name off a move off a production or a movie,
Speaker 1: or says they won't talk to the director at all
Speaker 1: about the movie. That's never a good sign. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what insider ta you need beyond that, you know. Sorry,
Speaker 1: Uh let's see here, what is the next one? Uh?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Sean Sean movie rue leaves us a nice
Speaker 1: little thing. Thank you, Sean.
Speaker 2: Whoo, I'm rich.
Speaker 1: Ioshi Ua Metsu says, those honesty premiere pictures of the
Speaker 1: pizza lo fire. Well, let's take a look at one.
Speaker 1: There it is. Look at that.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: He actual looks beautiful, looks beautiful, there you go. Just hell, guys, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, all right. Brian saw the Invite a few
Speaker 1: days ago and loved it. Brogan and Cruise were excellent.
Speaker 1: If the film had come out later in the year,
Speaker 1: I could see Oscars bas especially Cruise. Well, a lot
Speaker 1: of people are already saying it is going to be Oscars, Jeff,
Speaker 1: you were saying.
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, it's definitely going to get Oscar by all
Speaker 2: the performers will be in the mix. You know, maybe
Speaker 2: you have a heart and easier time selling Norton and
Speaker 2: Cruise because they're supporting right right personally. And if you
Speaker 2: asked me if I would have said this twenty four
Speaker 2: hours ago, I'd said absolutely not over my dead body.
Speaker 2: While was the best one. Wow, I thought she was great.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like her as an actress. I've never not
Speaker 1: believed her.
Speaker 2: It was fantastic and the screenplay is one hundred percent
Speaker 2: getting nominated. That's a nom for Rashida Jones.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool. Wasn't she going to write a toy story
Speaker 1: movie and then the whole last thing happened?
Speaker 2: Or was it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right? So yeah, cartoon forty nine. Thoughts on New
Speaker 1: Evil Dead if you saw it Emmy noms. We talked
Speaker 1: about that earlier cartoons, so maybe later I will have
Speaker 1: the time codes up. You can go back and rewatch
Speaker 1: that section. Uh char Marv George is, can you rank
Speaker 1: these martial arts movies? The Raid two, Drunken Master two,
Speaker 1: Fist of Legend, and Hero. I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is the right to arena to rank these, Jeff? Have
Speaker 1: you seen all four of these?
Speaker 2: At all four? I've seen the Raid two Hero, and
Speaker 2: I'm familiar with Drunken Master too, but I don't think
Speaker 2: I have I know anything about Fist of Legend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to default Drunken Master too because that's
Speaker 1: Jackie Chan. Then I'll go Raid two, then Hero, then
Speaker 1: Fist of Legend. That's what I'll say. Dance, but I
Speaker 1: think the Raid two is fantastic. Yeah it is, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, miss uh Mickey Mickey das Jeff, do you
Speaker 1: believe in the Nave will be cast as Professor X
Speaker 1: No next. Okay, Fred's CLAYT. Crawford was in twelve The
Speaker 1: Baytown Outlaws and it's a whole lot of fun. Also
Speaker 1: stars Andre Brower, Evel Longoria and Billy Bob for.
Speaker 2: Like an obscure recommendation. I'll look into that.
Speaker 1: That's a cool it's a good cast too.
Speaker 2: Actually, this week I read this book Gwash by this
Speaker 2: British author John Wayne Right nineteen seventy nine. They turned
Speaker 2: it into a nineteen eighty one French movie called The Inquisitor,
Speaker 2: remaining again in two thousand is under Suspicion. You ever
Speaker 2: see that movie?
Speaker 1: Is that the one with Gene Hackman and McDowell.
Speaker 2: Yes, I've sung you Gene Hackman and Morgan Freeman. And
Speaker 2: do you see oh Ballucci? It was Balucci.
Speaker 1: That's right, Yes, I did see it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Good good movie. Yeah, not not great, a little too long,
Speaker 2: but I love the book anyways, going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just one of those films that kind of
Speaker 1: gets lost in the mix, you know. Yeah, uh, Galliot,
Speaker 1: I don't think the paramount WB merger goes through. Okay,
Speaker 1: good to know Galliot, maybe seems sundow of a roadrunner.
Speaker 1: Why is Bail not viewed as a box office as
Speaker 1: box office poison when every movie he has been in
Speaker 1: for the last twelve years has not done well besides
Speaker 1: Love and Thunder.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, he absolutely is voided view
Speaker 2: that way. Wait, thing Madden is going to prime video?
Speaker 1: You know, like.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, when you have Leo, it doesn't matter,
Speaker 2: right with with Heat too, But if you didn't have Leo,
Speaker 2: I don't think you could pin that budget on him.
Speaker 1: That's true, That's true. Zero Killer seventy seven says, first,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this well. Congratulations Serial Killer. You think Udi
Speaker 1: tries to keep India in the universal dress, to keep
Speaker 1: Indian in the fold, I could see the bourn rumors.
Speaker 1: But with her and a lower budget with Damon Cameo.
Speaker 1: I mean to say, with lower budget, sure, but I
Speaker 1: don't know that they necessarily want to go lower budget
Speaker 1: with this, Jeff.
Speaker 2: I just need to be able to buy her as
Speaker 2: a badass, and I can do that. With Zendaya. I
Speaker 2: mean that she's I need to and but like I
Speaker 2: could suspend my disbelief, I'm not sure I'm there yet.
Speaker 2: With Indy.
Speaker 1: Mature a little bit more there you go uh Sam, Oh,
Speaker 1: let's says, I know Olivia Willders making.
Speaker 2: So that that female young female born is catching on
Speaker 2: with people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, I know Olivia Wallder is making a weird
Speaker 1: Christmas movie next year. It's called Naughty, But I would
Speaker 1: love for her to get a big ip at some
Speaker 1: point that woman can direct?
Speaker 2: Is that? But is that what we want from the
Speaker 2: people who can direct. I need them to have a
Speaker 2: big ep. When you saw a Woody Allen movie and
Speaker 2: you said, man, that guy can direct, where you're like,
Speaker 2: he's got to direct the New Star Wars. I need
Speaker 2: Woody Allen to do the New Star Wars, the new
Speaker 2: Indiana Jones movie in the A. It's like, why is
Speaker 2: this the default thing? You know? I don't need her
Speaker 2: to have a big idea.
Speaker 1: A missiles ut. Yeah, no, it couldn't really work. It
Speaker 1: wouldn't really work that system. Cause I watched Roka and
Speaker 1: Harlow content more than TV shows. Oh, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: That's very great. And half the shows I watch come on.
Speaker 1: Gall three devices. What's your guys, Mount Rushmore of Russell
Speaker 1: Crowe movies, Ah, Gladiator beautiful mind Uh, nice guys, And
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe proper stopper?
Speaker 2: Is that him?
Speaker 1: What would you put what would you put off the cuff?
Speaker 2: Belong in prison? Okay? Oh l a confidential fuck l confidential?
Speaker 2: Consential and the Insider?
Speaker 1: Oh you love the Insider? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gladiator three and I guess you have to go
Speaker 2: a beautiful mind for hm hmm, yeah, I think although yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Cinder Ellman is really good.
Speaker 1: I mean three it is. I own it on four
Speaker 1: K three Tender Yuma. He's excellent in that movie.
Speaker 2: Not one of these nice guys people. That's a nice movie.
Speaker 2: I don't like, you know, go back in time and
Speaker 2: worship that movie.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, he's great an American gangster as well. And
Speaker 1: I low key defend Noah. I think he's excellent.
Speaker 2: And Noah, that was good.
Speaker 1: I like Derek Johnson, Thank you, Derek is If Lantern sucks,
Speaker 1: I think I'm officially out on the on this version
Speaker 1: of DC. How many regime changes so far? Three or four?
Speaker 1: I can't get flashed, but they're gonna give me Jimmy
Speaker 1: Olsen running around with guerrillaic Rod.
Speaker 2: I mean you could get flashed in that show though.
Speaker 1: Maybe right, yeah, yeah, it could be a low key
Speaker 1: way of introducing some of these characters for sure. Figgs says,
Speaker 1: it seems there's been movement on the MC. Okay, we
Speaker 1: are said that one. Thank you, Derek for more support
Speaker 1: from support, Derek Johnson Galley is what other big WB
Speaker 1: movies are test screening right now? Jeff Do you know
Speaker 1: anything else that's test screening?
Speaker 2: Not off the top of my head, but I'll just
Speaker 2: say yes, the calendar as it stands right now.
Speaker 1: Yes, not the calendar, the WB calendar or the movie
Speaker 1: calendar overall.
Speaker 2: The w B calendar. Oh, interesting, interesting, there will there
Speaker 2: are changes.
Speaker 1: Coming, Okay. Gritney from Al's Got any Spider Man villain
Speaker 1: super Secret Goodness hoping Tombstone has a big role. He's
Speaker 1: more of a super soldier with a twist of thugness.
Speaker 1: I loved him in the cartoon back when I was like,
Speaker 1: oh wee lad uh yeah, there you go. I haven't
Speaker 1: rend the Jeffy you know anything on on Tombstone and
Speaker 1: Superman Spider Man?
Speaker 2: Who is no, Okay, Tombstone like the he's sort of
Speaker 2: like an albino yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah. The guy from uh Black Lightning, Sun
Speaker 1: Devil Roadrunner Johansson as Born seems like a layup.
Speaker 2: Hell no, not not what not? That was black widow
Speaker 2: basically yeah, also no offense, but they want to go
Speaker 2: with someone younger. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: Steve Catania says they never screened the Imax movie so long,
Speaker 1: so frequently? Will honesty ruin the projectors?
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know, is that a thing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know the Imax projectors
Speaker 2: and the bulbs work and everything. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I'll have to ask out of Plovic Galliot what gets
Speaker 1: shifted on the WB. Yeah, he would say that if
Speaker 1: he knew, if he was willing to surrender it just yet.
Speaker 2: Gay, Come on, let's just say there's a movie that
Speaker 2: is poised to be someone's comeback, and I think it
Speaker 2: will be someone's comeback.
Speaker 1: Oh, so, are you saying it's not gonna be moved?
Speaker 1: I'm confused. Are you saying it's gonna be moved or
Speaker 1: not moved?
Speaker 2: For I'm not saying another word. There's a okay movie
Speaker 2: that's gonna be someone's comeback that I think will actually
Speaker 2: be somebody's come back.
Speaker 1: Ooh interesting, all right, look at WB movies. That's practical magic.
Speaker 1: End of Oak Street Digger, Clayface, Cat and the Hat
Speaker 1: The Great Beyond Dune Part three. Those are the movies
Speaker 1: we still have to come Evil dead Burn as well,
Speaker 1: which is out already though. Okay, ah, interesting, all right,
Speaker 1: Derek says, don't tickle my taint about changes. Jeff, what's
Speaker 1: it going to cost for more of a taste of
Speaker 1: this info?
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Dear Johnson, you're talking.
Speaker 1: To the master of tickling taints, the taint tickler himself.
Speaker 1: All right, let's hit these stream labs. Michael Green, what
Speaker 1: would you be doing if you weren't doing this? Both
Speaker 1: of you? Obsession doesn't deserve its love. The invite does?
Speaker 1: The invite? Invite is much better than obsession?
Speaker 2: Wow, Michael, who invites? Yea better than obsession?
Speaker 1: Okay, what would I be doing? If I could do anything,
Speaker 1: I'd be president of the United States? Motherfucking hell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would do that for.
Speaker 2: The last two hours, either jerking off or watching or
Speaker 2: splitting the time between watching the Agency and jergerout.
Speaker 1: Fantastic. Hey, how Mike, I saw live action Moana and
Speaker 1: overall enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Too bad? It's gonna battle with TS five and minions.
Speaker 1: Then fade away after the trailers I saw. I think
Speaker 1: the theaters are going to be busy through August. Brother,
Speaker 1: you might be the only one who liked that. I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's not looking uh Moana one, No, we'll
Speaker 1: see fantastic, says also after seeing the rock in Mowana.
Speaker 1: Rank these movies with bad wigs in them, Duane Johnson
Speaker 1: and Malwana, Glenn Close, one hundred one Dalmatians, Jason Moa
Speaker 1: in the Minecraft movie, Nicholas Cage and con Air, and
Speaker 1: Steve Martin in My Blue Heaven. Well in order of
Speaker 1: descending greatness, right, so greatness at the top, I think
Speaker 1: I have to go with Nicholas Cage and con Air,
Speaker 1: then Steve Martin in My Blue Heaven, then Glenn Close,
Speaker 1: then Momoa, then Duane Johnson, Jeff.
Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage number one, and I don't care about the rest,
Speaker 2: but there.
Speaker 1: You go, all right? Pie Tips Is Mason's too young
Speaker 1: to play Cyclops or Angel? What the fuck he's twenty five,
Speaker 1: especially with Sadie Sink who's five years older than him.
Speaker 1: Maybe Mason Thames as Quentin Choir Since the writers have
Speaker 1: said they'd bring in mutants who haven't debuted in live
Speaker 1: action yet and Quentin fits that Bill way too obscure.
Speaker 1: Quinton is way too obscure. Wait, hold is news? I
Speaker 1: thought Mason was twenty five? Is he not twenty five?
Speaker 1: He is? Oh shit, he's nineteen. Fuck me all right?
Speaker 1: That maybe you might be right by tips. I don't
Speaker 1: think you can answer that, Jeff, you don't know what
Speaker 1: she's saying. Carlton Banks, we all, oh, Jeff Snyder a
Speaker 1: huge apology. He has been vindicated. Sebastian Stan has been
Speaker 1: pictured recently with a shaved bald head. He is definitely
Speaker 1: Victor's oz. I believe all of Jeff's predictions bout Batman
Speaker 1: two will be correct, including part three after part two
Speaker 1: does well?
Speaker 2: I did predict part three that typically does come after two.
Speaker 2: I was on top. Some people said they were going
Speaker 2: straight to four, but you're pal, Jeff Snyder said, going
Speaker 2: to three.
Speaker 1: That's six minute apps, seven minute apps. Carlton Banks. Question
Speaker 1: for John and Jeff, if I were to send you
Speaker 1: both an Uber Eats gift card would code, would you
Speaker 1: guys order some food and enjoy on the stream for
Speaker 1: an upcoming Hot Mike episode.
Speaker 2: Done next week?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Send it on and Jeff and I will order food
Speaker 2: and we'll sit and eat it while we're doing the show. Yes,
Speaker 2: can I order more pistachios?
Speaker 1: I would just want to burger all right? We got
Speaker 1: two more of these than we got to get on
Speaker 1: out of here. Everybody. G Garfield Bizarre Adventure says, why
Speaker 1: do you keep crash crashing out over?
Speaker 2: John? Oh Jesus?
Speaker 1: All right? Andrew answer that one.
Speaker 2: But I don't crash out. I don't watch these guys.
Speaker 2: I want to be there. I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: so popular.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't understand. I don't watch these guys.
Speaker 1: I don't know their content. I know they're anti woke,
Speaker 1: anti DEI and all that kind of shit, but I
Speaker 1: don't watch their content, so there's nothing to crash out over.
Speaker 1: I think this is you watching their content, hearing me
Speaker 1: talk about anti woke and anti DEII people, and you go, well,
Speaker 1: the only person I watch are these people. You must
Speaker 1: be talking about that person. I don't watch their shit.
Speaker 1: I don't waste my time with it. But I'm not like,
Speaker 1: this is not my jam, but I don't. I'm not
Speaker 1: crashing out of it. I think that's hilarious to me,
Speaker 1: and I don't understand. I say, I don't understand living
Speaker 1: your whole life and your pole writing. Other YouTubers like,
Speaker 1: do something with your life pole writing. Another YouTuber bro,
Speaker 1: stand on your own two feet and build your own life.
Speaker 1: Like That's what I would say.
Speaker 2: You guys can ride enough room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't need anybody writing my pool Andrew Sanchez.
Speaker 1: Any actresses come to mind as the antagonist Impossibles and
Speaker 1: Day of Born film, My pick would be Jessica Chastain Hannah.
Speaker 1: She doesn't have the juice. Man, remember a fucking Dark three?
Speaker 2: Who was that? Remember? Oh? Yeah, man, that was rough.
Speaker 2: She did another like a B movie where she's like
Speaker 2: a badass. It's not like Butterfly. What was it called?
Speaker 2: It got changed? The word got changed like a one
Speaker 2: word title like a name.
Speaker 1: Oh yes it was. Oh yeah, hold on talking about
Speaker 1: Yes I do, I do. What it's like?
Speaker 2: Jesse? Wait? What was it called? Uh? Now, wrap up
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: I'll get Ava Ava Ava, yes, Ava, Yes, Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: a deadly assassin works for a black ops organization.
Speaker 2: Dude, I love chesting, she said, can when I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get that show? When's the Savant coming? Bro?
Speaker 1: Isn't it? But it is available? Isn't it, or that
Speaker 1: they take those screens available.
Speaker 2: People were like, it's never coming out, it's coming out.
Speaker 2: If it wasn't coming out, I wouldn't be able to
Speaker 2: watch it right now at this point. Aye, won't come over,
Speaker 2: come over, sit here for the fucking day, watch the
Speaker 2: whole show. I don't give a book.
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, Thank you Derek Johnson for
Speaker 1: that last bit of support. Yes, go touch some grass, everybody, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I agree, go touch some grass. It's important. All right.
Speaker 2: That's it.
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