1 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho. 2 00:00:35,359 --> 00:00:38,799 This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're 3 00:00:38,799 --> 00:00:41,920 going to bring you this week's episode of The Big Story. 4 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,039 But I want to encourage you to check out our 5 00:00:44,119 --> 00:00:48,240 other podcasts, and today I'm highlighting the great Adventurers of 6 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,840 Old time Radio. We're some of old time radio's most 7 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,840 daring adventure heroes. Currently we are featuring Tours and and 8 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,920 Counterspot and you can check that out at Great Adventures 9 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,560 Dot impo or wherever you get your podcast from. But now, 10 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,799 from June eighth, nineteen forty nine, here is the bitterest 11 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,079 man on Earth. 12 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: Hell now present The Big Story. 13 00:01:31,799 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: Good he did? 14 00:01:35,719 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 4: Sweet baby? 15 00:01:37,079 --> 00:01:42,599 Speaker 3: Oh man? Yeah, hey baby, you ain't got your mind 16 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,840 on it. Come on, we dance know what. 17 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:47,719 Speaker 4: Oh listen to? 18 00:01:47,879 --> 00:01:48,599 Speaker 3: Don't that send you? 19 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 4: No, that just get you. 20 00:01:50,319 --> 00:01:52,359 Speaker 5: That's him right there, sitting there. 21 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 4: See he's getting up. 22 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,319 Speaker 6: Now stop that man, stop him. 23 00:01:56,359 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 5: Get killed my best friend. That man wanted for murder. 24 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:06,799 That's him. 25 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: The Big Story here is America. It's sound and its fury, 26 00:02:11,879 --> 00:02:15,199 its joy and its sorrow, as faithfully reported by the 27 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:22,319 men and women of the Great American newspapers, Richmond, Virginia. 28 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,840 The story of a murder and of a man convicted 29 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:28,719 for that murder, who became the bitterest man on earth, 30 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,879 for his contribution not only in writing a great story, 31 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,479 but in reaffirming a great truth, that every person on 32 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,680 earth is a human being and has a right to 33 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,560 human dignity to report a Julian C. Housman of the Richmond, 34 00:02:42,599 --> 00:02:47,039 Virginia Newsleader, for his big story goes the Pellmell Award. 35 00:02:56,879 --> 00:03:01,840 Now the story as it actually happened. Reporter Julian Husband's 36 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:12,520 story as he lived it, Richmond, Virginia. 37 00:03:14,479 --> 00:03:17,199 Speaker 7: It began with a letter from a woman in Harlem 38 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,840 at twenty five eighty one, Saint Nicholas Avenue, New York 39 00:03:21,439 --> 00:03:26,120 to the postmaster at Brodnack's in Mecklenburg County, Virginia. 40 00:03:27,039 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 8: Dear mister Dawson, Sir, I got to make myself known 41 00:03:30,759 --> 00:03:34,479 to you, and maybe you remember me Daniel Greene's daughter, 42 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,560 Mamie now name of Goodwin. Since I'm married, I hope 43 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,560 you'll not think me beIN forward to write, sir, mister Dawson. 44 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,280 But my son Jamie got himself in trouble. He's in Richmond, 45 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,960 in the Henricot County Jail accused of murder and sent 46 00:03:50,039 --> 00:03:53,400 us to forty year hard labor. Now the man who 47 00:03:53,439 --> 00:03:56,879 did that crime is name Author Tenney, and some swear 48 00:03:56,919 --> 00:03:59,599 as my Jamie is at Author Tenney, which he is 49 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,280 not here is my son and never might have know one. Now, 50 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,400 mister Dawson, you know my family when I wait for 51 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:10,879 your wife twenty years ago and then moved from broad 52 00:04:10,919 --> 00:04:13,639 Axe to New York and Jamie come with me. He 53 00:04:13,759 --> 00:04:17,160 never killed no one, But I can't come and prove it. 54 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 9: So would you please I. 55 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 8: Get in touch with the sheriff, mister Rae and tell 56 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,000 them that Jamie ain't this Author Tenney and help him 57 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,759 get off. I'd be so grateful, mister Dawson, sir, and 58 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,800 thank you in advance your humble servants. 59 00:04:31,879 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 9: Maymick Grain goodn. 60 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:43,879 Speaker 4: It began for you. 61 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 7: Julian Housmann, reporter for the Richmond knows lad when Postmaster 62 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,439 Dawson of Broadnax happened to have some business in Richmond, 63 00:04:54,199 --> 00:04:58,680 happened to have a spare half hour, and happened by 64 00:04:58,759 --> 00:05:01,480 accident to walk into the newspaper office. 65 00:05:01,959 --> 00:05:05,959 Speaker 10: Mister Housman, Yeah, that's right. Her name's Dawson, Postmash and 66 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,240 broad Knights. I got something here might be of interest. 67 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,879 The girl outside it says that you handle this kind 68 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:13,160 of thing. 69 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,199 Speaker 9: What is the crime story? I don't know. 70 00:05:15,319 --> 00:05:17,199 Speaker 10: Is it any kind of story? Just the letter I 71 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,040 got old woman he used to know twenty odd years 72 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,240 ago up Mecklenburg County where Broaden Axes I used to 73 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,439 do washing for my wife. 74 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,959 Speaker 9: Well, I'm on a story right now, mister Dorston. 75 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 10: That's all right, It won't take your time. Just why 76 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,360 don't I leave the letter? You think it's anything where, 77 00:05:33,959 --> 00:05:36,240 go ahead and do what you like. If not, it 78 00:05:36,319 --> 00:05:39,000 gets the wastebaskets, go to place as any place. 79 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:45,079 Speaker 7: Three hours later, after you've finished work, you read the letter. 80 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,959 It moves you strongly. The woman's plight, her dependence on Dawson, 81 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,759 the helplessness, and every line. Could it be as she 82 00:05:55,879 --> 00:05:59,920 had written? You call Sheriff Jeff Ray a good friend 83 00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:01,920 out at Henrico Cardy prison. 84 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 11: Then there's nothing in it Jeff about his being Goodwin 85 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,040 and not Tenny, No nothing. 86 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,439 Speaker 12: I had that boy in jail one day six years ago, 87 00:06:08,519 --> 00:06:09,759 right after killed his wife. 88 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 9: He escaped that first day, but I remember him couldn't 89 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:13,839 you compare his prince? 90 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 12: Now, I tell you a little secret, Julian, I never 91 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,000 did get a chance to take his prince. I was 92 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,680 going to do that second morning. But if he didn't 93 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,199 escape that night, we got him. Now, had a fair trial, 94 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:30,720 got convicted. And that's that. Ah, Julian, he ain't pulling 95 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,720 the wool over your eyes now, is he with that 96 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,040 story of being someone else? 97 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,759 Speaker 4: Oh, Julian, you hear me. 98 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 9: Yeah, I hear you. Jeff No, he isn't. That's so long. 99 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:59,959 Speaker 3: Oh that's right, mister houseman. My name is Jamie Goodwin. 100 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:03,800 But what's the difference. Ain't nobody gonna believe me? Ain't 101 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,519 nobody care? But what proof do you have proof? What's 102 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,079 that proof? I say, who I am? I got papers 103 00:07:11,079 --> 00:07:14,279 from the Merchant Marine. Duriy say, that's off a tenny, 104 00:07:14,399 --> 00:07:15,680 forty years hard labor. 105 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 9: That's your proof. And you're not off a tenny. You're 106 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:19,199 Jamie Goodwin. 107 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,759 Speaker 3: Mister he's gone away. Who cares if a backwards boy 108 00:07:23,879 --> 00:07:25,040 like me live or die? 109 00:07:25,519 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 4: Going away and leave me be. 110 00:07:36,079 --> 00:07:39,439 Speaker 7: For a moment, do you think, oh, what's the difference? 111 00:07:40,199 --> 00:07:43,920 And then you stop? He's a man, his name, a 112 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,560 human being, with the same hopes and desires and fears 113 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,959 as you or anyone else. Do you think suppose I 114 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,079 spend a little time on this find out. He starts 115 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,519 with Bertha Javis, the girl who identified him. 116 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,759 Speaker 9: I was up there New York visiting friends. 117 00:08:02,079 --> 00:08:04,399 Speaker 6: We went dan Soon That's where I saw him. 118 00:08:04,639 --> 00:08:06,199 Speaker 9: Tenny, You're sure it was Tenny? 119 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:07,319 Speaker 6: Sure, I'm sure. 120 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 9: How do you know? 121 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,199 Speaker 13: His wife was my girlfriend? 122 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 6: I grew up with her, my best friend. He promised 123 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,600 to love honor and Cherisher Steady killed her. She was 124 00:08:17,639 --> 00:08:20,279 a good girl, Marie, and he's bad. 125 00:08:20,839 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: How I know? Well, Marie's dead. 126 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:23,839 Speaker 6: That's how I know. 127 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 9: You are Marie's mother. 128 00:08:32,879 --> 00:08:33,399 Speaker 4: Who are you? 129 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:36,399 Speaker 9: I'm a reporter. Nny was your son in law? 130 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,519 Speaker 8: Right, I've got nothing to say about him except they 131 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:40,879 should electrocuted him. 132 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,159 Speaker 9: Not to give him forty years. You identified him at 133 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:44,879 the trial, sure, saying his. 134 00:08:44,919 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 14: Name is Goodwin. 135 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:47,279 Speaker 13: I ain't Kenny. 136 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,039 Speaker 4: I Goodwin? 137 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,759 Speaker 9: Liar? Know what a liar that boy was? Come in? 138 00:08:51,879 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 8: Look what's that bible? Look her here rode on the inside. 139 00:08:56,759 --> 00:09:00,639 Turned my darling sweetheart, Marie. Give it it's Tuo same 140 00:09:00,759 --> 00:09:02,919 day killed her. That's how bad he was. 141 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 9: Sure there couldn't be any mistake. 142 00:09:04,519 --> 00:09:06,639 Speaker 8: I swore in the courtroom, and I'll putting my hand 143 00:09:06,639 --> 00:09:07,159 on this book. 144 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 9: Now, God's my witness. 145 00:09:08,759 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 8: That boy in jail kill my daughter. 146 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 14: God's my witness. 147 00:09:18,399 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 7: You wonder about him, now, Jamie Goodwin or off At Tenny, 148 00:09:24,159 --> 00:09:28,799 You wonder that to go on? Other witnesses say the same. 149 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,120 And then after searching a week, you find the Tenny family. 150 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,879 A woman second bed who can't talk, and a bent 151 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,240 old man who listens to your mission and shakes his head. 152 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 15: He's my son. But don't talk about him. 153 00:09:44,799 --> 00:09:46,639 Speaker 11: But you weren't at the trial, Well you, mister Tenny, 154 00:09:46,879 --> 00:09:48,960 you didn't see him what I wanna see. 155 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 15: Boy disgrace his family, mister, since he'd done that six 156 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,679 years ago, his mama and me ain't been out of 157 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,799 this house living disgrace, that's all. Don't want to talk 158 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,320 about him. 159 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 9: But this man may not be your son. Killed his wife, 160 00:10:05,039 --> 00:10:07,039 that's all I know. Maybe he didn't do it. 161 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 11: I don't say your son didn't kill his wife. I 162 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:11,399 say maybe this man isn't your son. 163 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:14,039 Speaker 9: What you want me to do, come down to the 164 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,399 jail see him. 165 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 11: You may be able to set an innocent man free. 166 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,080 You wouldn't want an innocent man to pay for your 167 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:20,960 son's crime, would you. 168 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 15: Well enough trouble in the world at out some poor 169 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,720 boy pend for something my son done. I'll go. 170 00:10:40,399 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 11: You know this man Jamie, No, sir, never seen him 171 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,000 before in my life. Well, mister Tanney, mister Tenney, this 172 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,039 is Arthur Tenny's father. 173 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 15: Well it looked like him, talk like him, even stand 174 00:10:54,559 --> 00:11:00,120 like Arthur. Look enough to be him. Eltis twin. He 175 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,240 ain't my son, He's somebody else. 176 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 7: Read all about it men sentencing and Rico County Jail 177 00:11:16,279 --> 00:11:16,840 for murderers. 178 00:11:16,879 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 14: Arthur Tenny says, that's not his name. 179 00:11:18,799 --> 00:11:21,759 Speaker 7: Read all about it is shut down the facts as 180 00:11:21,799 --> 00:11:25,440 you've got them, the assertions and other niles. And the 181 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:30,960 next morning you get a call the Commonwealth's Attorney, George Dallas, 182 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,159 the man who tried the case, tells you to come in, 183 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,679 tells you you'd better come in. 184 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,399 Speaker 13: That's a great story, you wrote, great public service. 185 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,399 Speaker 14: What's the matter, mister Ballas you think I try cases 186 00:11:43,399 --> 00:11:45,240 and send men to prison for forty years for the 187 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,639 fun of it, I don't, But I wrote that. I 188 00:11:47,639 --> 00:11:52,120 suppose you listen, houseman and I talk eight witnesses and 189 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,080 the sheriff of this county identified this man as Tenny. 190 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,759 One witness, the man's father, and of course the man 191 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,039 himself say he's not Tenny. Now, I ask yourself this, 192 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,879 Does the Tenny family stand again by lying? Does Tenny 193 00:12:04,919 --> 00:12:07,480 stand again by sticking to his story that he's Goodwin? 194 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:08,120 Of course? 195 00:12:08,159 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 9: But I saw them together, Tenny's father, and. 196 00:12:10,279 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 14: I saw Bertha Jarvis and the murdered girl's mother and 197 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:16,440 all the rest. I suppose you were accused of being 198 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,080 someone you're not. Could you prove who you were? Would 199 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:19,960 it be so difficult? 200 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,639 Speaker 9: And what about the papers from the Merchant Marine. 201 00:12:22,759 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 14: Look I walk into a shipping office in New York 202 00:12:25,639 --> 00:12:28,960 and say my name is Goodwin. Do they ask for proof? No, 203 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,080 they issue papers in the name of Goodwin. Does that 204 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:32,799 make me Goodwin? 205 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 9: No? No? I see all that. But there are no butts. 206 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 14: No, if Sir Anne's are butts. That boy raised the 207 00:12:40,759 --> 00:12:41,799 noise that he was Goodwin. 208 00:12:41,879 --> 00:12:43,879 Speaker 9: In court we proved who he was. 209 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,799 Speaker 14: Now, if he hadn't raised that doubt that he was 210 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:49,480 someone else, he'd have been sentenced to death, not forty years, 211 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:52,960 instead of an innocent man being unjustly jailed. I tell 212 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,840 you a guilty man has gotten off easy. 213 00:12:55,159 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 9: You think that I know it? 214 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,159 Speaker 14: Now, Why don't you go back to your paper and 215 00:12:59,159 --> 00:13:02,159 write the second part of that story that Tenny is 216 00:13:02,279 --> 00:13:05,480 Kenny No ifs and buts. 217 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 9: No. 218 00:13:06,519 --> 00:13:09,919 Speaker 11: I can't do that, mister Bout. I can't because after 219 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,559 all you've said, and all the other witnesses have said, I. 220 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 9: Think I'm right. I think I can prove that Jamie 221 00:13:15,879 --> 00:13:17,039 Goodwin is not the murderer. 222 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 16: This is Si Harris returning you to your narrator and 223 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,039 the big story of Julian Houseman as he lived it 224 00:13:47,759 --> 00:13:49,120 and brought it. 225 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 7: The fact seem all against you, Julian Housman, reporter for 226 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,559 the Richmond Newsleader. Witnesses swear that the man who says 227 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:03,240 he's Jamie Goodwin is really off Tenny murderer. The sheriff 228 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:08,159 says so, Commonwealth's attorney Ballast insists so. And all you 229 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,360 have to go on is the word of the man himself, 230 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:17,519 the murderer's father, and your own stubborn belief. You go 231 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,080 back to Henrik Cardie jail, to the innocent man or 232 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,519 the murderer. 233 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 9: And talk Jamie. I need to know more. I've got 234 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,039 to know more about you now, you've got to talk 235 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,919 to me. What for, mister horsman, don't sit there like 236 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,320 that so we can free you. Don't you want to 237 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:31,960 get out of prison? 238 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: Don't I want to get out? Don't I want to Breathe? Look, mister, 239 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,879 you've been good, real good, taking time, but nobody cares. 240 00:14:40,879 --> 00:14:43,480 What happens to me? That old man say I wasn't 241 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,600 his son? Anybody listen to him? The sheriff listen, mister Ballace, 242 00:14:47,639 --> 00:14:48,080 he listened. 243 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:51,639 Speaker 11: No, Oh, what's a good I tell you, if we 244 00:14:51,639 --> 00:14:53,080 can get profe, you can be free. 245 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: They put me away. They treat me good in here, 246 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,679 and I ain't complaining. Food's good and all like it. 247 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,919 But they put me away and they ain't gonna bother 248 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:02,519 take me out. 249 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 9: I tell you you're wrong. Ballas is an honest man. 250 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:06,679 Speaker 3: I ain't say he's not honest. 251 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:12,039 Speaker 17: I oh, mister, look, I want to get out, getting 252 00:15:12,039 --> 00:15:14,879 the sun, get on a ship, maybe see a girl, 253 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,000 get married, have kids. 254 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:18,639 Speaker 4: Sure, sure I. 255 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: Want that, But I ain't gonna let you come in 256 00:15:21,039 --> 00:15:22,840 here and stuff my hopes and made me get me 257 00:15:22,879 --> 00:15:25,240 to think that that's what I'm gonna have. I ain't 258 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,879 gonna let you do that. I'm gonna run in here. 259 00:15:27,879 --> 00:15:30,080 It ain't nothing you know, nobody in the whole world can 260 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,639 do to help me. That's why I say leave me alone. Please, 261 00:15:33,759 --> 00:15:38,600 I'm begging you. Leave me alone, mess me up, and 262 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,360 then dash me down more hard than before. 263 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 9: You're wrong, Jenny, You're wrong? How can I make you 264 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:48,320 believe you're wrong? Jamie? 265 00:15:48,399 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 11: I'm gonna write a story about what you just told me. 266 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,639 Maybe somebody will read it and come forward and say 267 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:55,320 who you really are? What else should I say in 268 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:55,799 that story? 269 00:15:55,879 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 4: I told you all? 270 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:57,679 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say you. 271 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,639 Speaker 9: Asked who cares? 272 00:15:58,879 --> 00:16:00,919 Speaker 11: I care, Jamie, and I think others will care when 273 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,159 they hear your story. 274 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 9: The truth, honest, the true Jamie. 275 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: All right, say this, Jamie Goodwin's got a bad name, 276 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:18,120 Jamie Goodwin Robert Carr and stole money for food. But 277 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,279 he didn't kill no woman. 278 00:16:19,759 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: He didn't kill no wife. He never was married. Say that. 279 00:16:23,679 --> 00:16:25,759 Speaker 3: Say if he got married, he treated this woman right. 280 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,200 You ain't gonna help maybe, but. 281 00:16:28,519 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: That's the truth. 282 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,759 Speaker 9: Anything else, Yeah, yeah, you know, mister Haan. 283 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: Say that. Say Jamie Goodman worked lots of places Broad 284 00:16:37,919 --> 00:16:41,919 n Next, Detroit, Baltimore, Boston. There must be some folks 285 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,120 knowing must be one man somewhere stop what he do 286 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,919 and take a day out and come down here to 287 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,840 prove I ain't no murderer. Prove I just claimed, Jamie Goodwin. 288 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 14: Reg your story. Mister tim thought. Maybe I knew that 289 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,759 man you wrote about two years ago. Let him seventy 290 00:17:05,799 --> 00:17:10,359 five dollars he paid me back to here's the newdy sign. Heee, 291 00:17:10,839 --> 00:17:13,079 Jamie Goodwin, maybe you can use it. 292 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 15: I just come from the jail, mister haslan Well. I 293 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,039 saw that man. The man they says author Tenny Funny. 294 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:28,480 I remember when I talked to Tenny, knew him years ago. 295 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,200 He used to have to look up to that man tall. 296 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,720 This one I didn't have to look up to. Now 297 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,200 he must have got shorter, because I ain't got no 298 00:17:37,319 --> 00:17:41,759 taller less, of course, like I think, he ain't author Tenny, 299 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:42,759 but someone else. 300 00:17:50,559 --> 00:17:51,839 Speaker 9: You're a houseman, that's right. 301 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,839 Speaker 4: My name C. B. Sega. I'm a planter broad next way. 302 00:17:56,559 --> 00:17:58,200 You had not in the paper. I read it. 303 00:17:58,279 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 12: I spoke the postmaster in our town about this good Win. 304 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,400 Tenny Feller says, come see you say here I am. 305 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 9: What do you think about it? 306 00:18:06,039 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 12: Thinking something? I don't go in for much here is. 307 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,920 I'll tell you what I believe in. I believe in facts. 308 00:18:12,319 --> 00:18:14,440 I live in broad Next all my life. Know everyone 309 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,640 man worked for me. Name a Goodwin years back. Maybe 310 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,319 that's the boy you've got in jail here. If it is, 311 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,119 i'll prove it. I'll ask that boy six questions about Broadnecks. 312 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,039 He answers him he's a Goodwin. He don't let him 313 00:18:28,039 --> 00:18:30,240 stay in jail. I ain't got all day. 314 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 4: Let's go. 315 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 9: I stand still, you man, what's this? 316 00:18:48,519 --> 00:18:49,759 Speaker 4: What you got all these men here for? 317 00:18:50,279 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 9: Can you pick out one you ever saw before? Mister 318 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,599 Sega testing me? 319 00:18:54,680 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 4: Eh? Well, I'll be sure there he is. You're Goodwin? Right, yes? 320 00:19:03,759 --> 00:19:04,680 Chasing me? All right? 321 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 11: The rest of you, man can go, Jamie, this man 322 00:19:09,599 --> 00:19:12,480 is Let me do the talking, son, Okay, I look 323 00:19:12,519 --> 00:19:13,160 at me, Jamie. 324 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 4: Where am i? 325 00:19:15,839 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 3: I remember? You say you mister sake? 326 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,759 Speaker 4: That's right now? Where am I from? By broad Next? 327 00:19:22,599 --> 00:19:23,680 When did you last see me? 328 00:19:24,839 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 9: Let me see seven years ago? 329 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 4: So last July? 330 00:19:28,839 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 14: Why did you say July when. 331 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 3: You fired me July the first and then you hired 332 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:36,599 me back July to fourth? 333 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 4: He says he was being patriotic about how I never mind? 334 00:19:39,839 --> 00:19:41,279 What's my brother in law's name. 335 00:19:43,279 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 9: What is the doctor, doctor Payne? 336 00:19:46,279 --> 00:19:48,279 Speaker 4: What did he tell you last time he saw you? 337 00:19:49,599 --> 00:19:51,400 He said, I think it was the last time. 338 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,279 Speaker 3: He says, don't you go walking on no more rules, 339 00:19:54,279 --> 00:19:56,599 because next time you fall off, you and I might 340 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:57,519 not be lucky and. 341 00:19:57,599 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 4: Just break one lead. 342 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 12: That's him, that's him, that's Jamie with no furious facts. 343 00:20:01,519 --> 00:20:05,880 I swear for heck, I don't need to swear now, Jamie. 344 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,440 When he let you out, you come on back to 345 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,240 broad next. I got a good job with him. 346 00:20:20,839 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 7: But it's not so simple. There are eight witnesses and 347 00:20:24,279 --> 00:20:27,319 a sheriff to shake. There's a decision of a judge 348 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,119 and a jury the reverse, and there's an attorney Ballast, 349 00:20:31,599 --> 00:20:35,160 the commonwealth attorney. You bring the new information to him. 350 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,720 He looks it over lessons, then says, I take back 351 00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:44,319 some of what I said. Housman, your story was not irresponsible. 352 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 9: Thank you. 353 00:20:45,279 --> 00:20:48,319 Speaker 14: I take back some of what I said. There's still 354 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,039 the testimony of eight enough. But you think, nevertheless, that 355 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,839 this information warrants a new trial. 356 00:20:54,039 --> 00:20:58,279 Speaker 9: Yes, mister Ballas I do. What do you think, husband? 357 00:20:58,279 --> 00:20:59,480 I want you to know I'll fight you. 358 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 14: I mean you and Tenny or a Goodwin and his attorney. 359 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,319 I'll fight you with all I've got. You know I'm 360 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,559 a funny duck. I'm one of those throwbacks to another 361 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,599 period when people had a sense of duty and a 362 00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:14,720 sense of honesty. If you win this case, you'll know 363 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:15,519 you've been in a fight. 364 00:21:16,799 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 13: You'll get a new trial, as the lord's my witness. 365 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 4: Jedge. 366 00:21:28,759 --> 00:21:31,599 Speaker 6: That man sitting right over there was married to my 367 00:21:31,799 --> 00:21:32,759 girlfriend Marie. 368 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:46,519 Speaker 13: That man is author Tenny. I swear he killed my daughter. 369 00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 9: That Tenny, I swear he don't decide to live. 370 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,759 Speaker 15: Yes, So mister lawyer us respects what that foreman said 371 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,599 about Marie, and I ain't forgetting Marie was my daughter 372 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,519 in law. But that man sitting down ain't my son. 373 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,480 He looked like him, all right, but he ain't my boy. 374 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 12: My name is Sega, I say, any man answer my 375 00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:23,279 six questions? Way that boy done? I know he's who 376 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,519 I say is? He's Jamie Goodwin. 377 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 8: I'm the boy's mother, Sir, Yes, sir, No matter what 378 00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:43,839 I say, I know few people ain't gonna think I 379 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,440 ain't sticking up for my son. 380 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 4: I am. But I said this. 381 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 8: How come that poor woman understand whose daughter got killed? 382 00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 4: N't know me. 383 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,559 Speaker 8: How come the man who say he's author to his 384 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,559 father never seen me before? If I'm the mother of 385 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,119 this man, then there's my kinfold. And how come my 386 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,440 kinfolks don't know me? Reason Neils, he's Jamie Goodman. 387 00:23:05,799 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 9: That's why I am a handwriting expert. 388 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 10: I've testified in many trials in professional capacity, including the 389 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,680 Lindbergh case. I have also examined a sheet of paper 390 00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:28,920 torn from a Bible on which Arthur Tenny wrote a 391 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,799 few words. I have also examined a note admittedly signed 392 00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:36,440 by Jamie Goodwin. In my honest and positive opinion, the 393 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:40,079 possibility of Tenny writing like Goodwin or Goodwin writing like 394 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,240 Tenny is so highly unlikely that it becomes almost a 395 00:23:43,319 --> 00:23:46,960 practical certainty that they are very different people. In short, 396 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:49,200 that's Goodwin your honor, not Tenny. 397 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,079 Speaker 4: Jamie Goodwin. 398 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 9: Yes, so your honor. 399 00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:05,799 Speaker 15: He's dismissed. 400 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 9: Sir, You're a free Jamie. 401 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 7: You're afraid, Please, mister Housman, a little respect for the 402 00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:12,559 dignity of this court. 403 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 16: Jamie Goodwin, you are free. 404 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 9: I don't know what the same as to help you 405 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:39,440 don't have to say anything. 406 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 4: I got it somehow. I gotta thank you. You see, 407 00:24:43,799 --> 00:24:46,519 I learned that people don't care. 408 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,759 Speaker 3: People like you and the postmaster from broad MAXI mister Sega, 409 00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:52,119 here's mister Ballast too. 410 00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:57,279 Speaker 9: Then folks on the other side they care too. What's true, 411 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,279 countful folks don't. That's right. 412 00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:02,559 Speaker 18: It seem the something something else too, I mean something. 413 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,200 If you believe in something, you don't put your head 414 00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:10,599 down and say no, they can't be you. Put your 415 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,920 face up and fight for what you believe. If you 416 00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:17,160 do that, people cared because they see that you kids. 417 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,519 And that's what this show, now it was. 418 00:25:20,839 --> 00:25:24,079 Speaker 9: That's what it shows, Jamie. That's just what it shows. 419 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: In just a moment, we'll read you a telegram from 420 00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:45,640 Julian Sea Houseman of the Richmond, Virginia Newsleader, with a 421 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:54,720 final outcome of tonight's big story. Now we read you 422 00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:58,720 that telegram from Julian Cea Housman of the Richmond Virginia Newsleader. 423 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 11: Day after try Goodwin visited the paper and said, I 424 00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:03,799 just wanted to come to the people who got me 425 00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:06,480 out of this. Jam I needed assistant sentence to the 426 00:26:06,519 --> 00:26:09,839 Newsleader that I owe my freedom. Authorities are still searching 427 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,200 for the actual murderer in Tonight's Big Story. Thanks a 428 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,480 lot for Tonight's Pellmell Award. 429 00:26:14,599 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 4: Thank you, mister Hosman. 430 00:26:16,039 --> 00:26:18,559 Speaker 2: The makers of pell Mell Famous Cigarettes are proud to 431 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,440 present you the pell Mell five hundred dollars Award for 432 00:26:21,559 --> 00:26:23,279 notable service in the field of Journalism. 433 00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:27,519 Speaker 16: Listen again next week, same time, same station, when pell 434 00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:32,160 Mell Famous Cigarettes will present another Big Story. A big 435 00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:35,240 story from the front pages of the Columbus, Ohio Dispatch 436 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:41,240 Byeline bill Foley, A big story about a phantom killer 437 00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:44,759 and a reporter who didn't believe in ghosts. 438 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: The Big Story is produced by Bernard Parcter with music 439 00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:04,920 by Vladimtslinski. Tonight's program was written by Arnold Pearl. Your 440 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,440 narrator was Bob Sloan. John Sylvester played the part of 441 00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:13,079 Julian C. Hausman, and Canada Lee played Jamie. In order 442 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,240 to protect the names of people actually involved in Tonight's 443 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,759 authentic Big Story, the names of all characters in the 444 00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:22,960 dramatization were changed, with exception of the report of mister Housman. 445 00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:31,759 This is Ernest Chappel speaking for the makers of pell Mell. 446 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 9: This is NBC the Nation, a broadcasting company. 447 00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: Welcome Back. In addition to mister Sylvester and mister lay in, 448 00:27:55,519 --> 00:28:03,160 tonight's cast were Pauline Myers, Georgia Bury, John Marriott, Jim Bules, 449 00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:08,960 Eric Dressler, Bill Smith, Scott Tennyson, and as usual, a 450 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:14,359 lot of doubles, including Canada Lee. Now on the Big Story. 451 00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:18,160 It is a bit unusual for any co stars to 452 00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:22,359 make it into the closing credits, but Canada ly had 453 00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:28,279 a very significant profile that merited it. Lee kind of 454 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,400 stumbled into acting, I mean literally was looking for a 455 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,200 job as a laborer and ended up in an audition 456 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:41,039 for the Federal Theater, which was one of those sort 457 00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:45,519 of new deal projects that kept people in work by 458 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,079 having them performed. According to Lee, the way he looked 459 00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:53,759 at acting was this is interesting, and it's better than 460 00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:59,720 going hungry. Then he got into a production of McBeth, 461 00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:06,799 which we termine all black production, and Wells had them 462 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:12,039 rehearsed for six months and this just became a runaway hit. 463 00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:17,640 And it really is a case where Wells's passion for 464 00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:22,640 the theater and acting were caught by Lee, which I 465 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,839 think is one of the more incredible things that I've 466 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,839 ever read about mister Wells. Lee went on to do 467 00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:33,880 a lot of stage work and in Hollywood he was 468 00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:39,799 asked in Lifeboat, and he'd also served as an narrator 469 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:45,279 of the really interesting World War two era program New 470 00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:49,359 World A Coming, So he brought some real star power 471 00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:52,039 that you don't really hear a whole lot in the 472 00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:55,839 big story. In terms of the episode itself, I think 473 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,839 it was well set out, and according to doctor Joe Webb, 474 00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:06,279 it's pretty close to the truth. The murder in question 475 00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:12,720 happened in nineteen thirty two, with the new trial occurring 476 00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:17,200 in nineteen thirty eight. I do think that, as was 477 00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:21,480 the case with other episodes in this sort of mold, 478 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,480 that there may be a little bit too much credit 479 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,160 being given to the prosecutors, who and I think in 480 00:30:31,319 --> 00:30:36,079 real life, continued through a lot of evidence coming forward, 481 00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:38,799 a lot of people saying this wasn't the same guy 482 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,839 until they were really Finally, I think by the way 483 00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:49,480 of public relations and potential, he forced to go ahead 484 00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:52,839 and have a new trial. Now that is not to 485 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:59,960 say in anyway that prosecutors or most prosecutors aren't concerned 486 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,119 enough with justice to try to do the right thing. 487 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,119 It's just kind of hard to see that this was 488 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,799 the case here all right. Listener comments and feedback now 489 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,279 and overall on Spotify Mechanics sixty six rights regarding the 490 00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:18,839 episode's sixteen year old misfit kills out of Fear good one. 491 00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:20,079 Speaker 3: Well, thanks so much. 492 00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: Now it's time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day, 493 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,599 and I wanted to go ahead and thank Die and 494 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:33,359 Patreon supporter since July of twenty twenty three, currently supporting 495 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,480 the podcast at the Detective Sergeant level of seven dollars 496 00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:40,440 and fourteen cents or more per month. Thanks so much 497 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,640 for your support, Diane, and that will do it for today. 498 00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:47,519 If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your 499 00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:51,440 favorite podcast software and be sure to rate and review 500 00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:54,759 the podcast wherever you download it from. We'll be back 501 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,799 next Tuesday with another episode of the Big Story, but 502 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,720 join us back here tomorrow for Broadways My Beat, where. 503 00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 19: The shock was a thing composed of crowd and a 504 00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:07,400 nighttime sky lit by flame, the elements later to be 505 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,400 noted in police and fire department records. Fire at Russell's 506 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,799 Chemical Company time four fifteen am. 507 00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 4: You're bringing somebody out now down. 508 00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 19: Strange What what'd you say? Said a strange mug of 509 00:32:18,519 --> 00:32:21,400 m after four in the morning. Why should anybody be come, 510 00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:25,359 Let's see put the stretches down here. 511 00:32:25,799 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 9: Somebody better are they? 512 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:27,359 Speaker 13: Oh? 513 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:30,079 Speaker 3: Hello, Danny, he's too. I think that's always in there. 514 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,319 I just started to say, somebody better get a preach. 515 00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 4: They both said, this one is the other one. 516 00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 9: Anny, look at him, Ed Custer, do something for him. 517 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,799 Speaker 19: Don't knock Doc overhead, Ed Custer, hurry up, Doc, you 518 00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:44,400 know I'm Danny. 519 00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, he's a policeman. 520 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,279 Speaker 4: Policeman, what was he doing in there? 521 00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:49,519 Speaker 9: Got do something for him. 522 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: Hope you'll be with us then in the meantime, said 523 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,759 your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot man, 524 00:32:57,319 --> 00:33:00,880 follow us on Twitter at Radio Detective, and check us 525 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:07,279 out on Instagram, Instagram, dot com slash Great Detectives from Boise, Idaho. 526 00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:10,400 This is your host, Adam Graham. 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