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Speaker 2: Let's tune in.
Speaker 1: This is Aaron Roderick and Kelly Papinga addressing the media
the other day for the mid season twenty twenty six
signing class.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I can go.
Speaker 4: Well, it's hard to summarize recruiting classes now because we
have high school players we sign, we have guys that
go on missions, we have guys who come home from missions,
and then we have.
Speaker 3: Transfer portal guys.
Speaker 4: But overall, I think we've made a lot of good
progress in upgrading our roster. Had a quarterback come home
from a mission in Enig Watson and then signed one
and sending on a mission with Ryer Lyons, and then
we had.
Speaker 3: A pretty big group of receivers coming in.
Speaker 4: We felt like we needed to improve there and tight
end that's a one position where you know, we went
we went through a few years where it was kind
of tight end by committee and we've made a very
concerted effort to get better at tight end. B why
you should always be great at tight end, and frankly
we weren't for a few years. There are just depth
for depth reasons, and now we feel like the future
is really bright there in the next several years.
Speaker 2: With this, he said it not me. I can't remember
what movie was from.
Speaker 1: That's from the life he said that. Wow, that came
out of his mouth.
Speaker 5: Because I felt that he was talking about I think
I've said that on this program before. I take the
tight end great again at b YU. I'm shocked that
Aaron Rodericks said that. Ap your thoughts on that comment.
I'm interested to know what AP has to say about that.
Speaker 6: Aaron Roderick just did what I have been praying for
coaches and players to do, and that is just be honest,
just you know, like coach talking, coach talk nothing and
maybe it's this is this is one of my shortcomings
in this business. There is almost nothing that bothers me
more than hearing a player say, guys flying around like,
tell me how you actually played?
Speaker 5: Everybody do your one eleventh bro like offense, defense, special teams,
all three phases.
Speaker 6: Aaron Roderick did what Aaron. I think Aaron Roderick prefers
to do it this way too. I don't think he
likes saying things that he knows, isn't I agree. I
just my respect for Aaron Roderick. I already have really
high respect for him. Just went through the roof. I
will never I will I will never stand for any fire.
A Rod comments after that.
Speaker 2: He that's what did it, That's what did it for.
That is what did it for me. Over, I hate
it when there's coach talk or player talk. Tell me
the truth.
Speaker 5: That's easy that like, of all the things a Rod
has done that people have been upset with, the one
thing that he had to do to make you push
you back on all of those people is just say
the tight end hasn't been great at by you, and
the people that are mad at are probably even more
mad at.
Speaker 2: Them now that show.
Speaker 7: People want to find the reason to be upset and
they're like, no, I don't want you to be honest.
Speaker 2: I want you to lie to me so I can
be upset with you.
Speaker 1: Look, look, I need to bring the ballots to it.
Let me break the ballots to it. Look, it's a
lot of things you guys said are true. First of all, Yes,
the fire Aaron Rodder things are out of pocket. That
needs to stop. The group that does. It's not everybody,
because there's a handful of the fan base that respects
her out that I'm talking about. There's a little portion
that is out of pocket, and they're gonna take that
quote like you said, and say so you knew and
you just chose to ignore. They're gonna they're gonna do that.
But then there's a portion of the fan base that
is also gonna be like I appreciate like a b
I'm just being honest. Thank you finally for being honest. No, coaches, stay,
this is a little tongue in cheek, but.
Speaker 2: Jay, it was honest. But let him go to Michigan.
General Guildford was honest. You let him go to I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: I'm joking all as jokes, but you have coaches on
the coaching staff. Look, I always say this, and I've
told this DP, and you and I have talked about this,
and this is something for you now, Caleb too, being
a part of the team. If you want a specific answer,
ask the specific question. If you give them an hour,
if you make it too generic, they're gonna take it
and go that way. There's not just bo U says
all coaches. You gotta ask directly about it.
Speaker 6: I just I'm just gonna bring this back. We had
this conversation a while ago. I think it was after
I don't know. It was sometimes to do with the
college football playoff ranking. Someone asked a player a question
that if they when they dropped, if it bothered them,
or if they're paying attention to the rankings.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we don't pay to that stuff.
Speaker 6: Later on, he mentioned that they were watching the ranking show.
Speaker 2: Alam, I didn't want to name names.
Speaker 1: I just say, I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna name
the name because you played the sound over the air.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I that's why I name the names. I'm
not gonna like I'm not gonna name names.
Speaker 6: But I've said off the air there are certain players
that when I hear their soundbites, I almost tune out
because I know they're not gonna say anything that's not
player talk.
Speaker 5: That's why I respect Kevin Young so much because Kevin
Young a couple of weeks ago, he got in hot
water for saying, like, the rankings don't make sense to me.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 5: He didn't say, Oh, I don't pay attention to those.
I don't even look at the rankings. He was like, look,
I looked at it. It doesn't make sense to me.
I respect Kevin Young so much for that because he's
being honest. Every other coach in America says I don't
look at the rankings, which isn't true.
Speaker 7: And on the on the other side of that is
when Kevin Young says that he doesn't follow something, you
know that he really doesn't wrong exactly. He's not making enough.
He says, Oh, I wasn't ware by that situation. Haven't
heard much left that right, It's true.
Speaker 1: Let me go to Kelly pepang Away to nip this
in the bud. And look, AP doesn't want to name names.
If it's played over the r already and if it's
given to us by media, we're not breaking any rules.
I'm not saying anything that's off record, so I'm gonna
say flatew was the one that said it. But what
also came from Foulatow's mouth, which was fantastic, which I love,
was something that Kelly Popinga mentioned in that same quote,
and that same quote was, oh, we were all watching
on the TV, and Kelly Pigga says, it doesn't matter.
All we got to do is win out the rest
of the season and take care of business. Sure, if
that is also true, both things can be true, both
kings can be true. I look, watch you pay attention.
You should know where you're at. I mean, do you
do you not? I mean, look, I'm not trying to
and I'm not trying to compare this to the church,
but there's a reason why you have ppi's you know,
you know or whatever, the pre personal appreciated interview like
the executive secretary of the church. And because I'm certain
this calling will schedule if the bishop does it this way,
he elects to meet with this auxiliary presidents, you know,
lead like he lectu to know what's going on, the
eldest coorm those that you know, these interviews right just
to know.
Speaker 2: And I'm connecting it that way.
Speaker 5: Stay with me, I don't know that I agree that
you need to know where you're at.
Speaker 2: However, what I will say is you don't have to care.
Just don't tell me you haven't looked.
Speaker 1: You can say, well, I feel like that's that you
can't need to know, but you can look to know
where yet like you.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's okay to me because some of.
Speaker 1: These with basketball football doesn't matter. Basketball it does, though,
you need to kind of know where you do rank
up in the margins. Maybe maybe not for maybe not
for b YU, but I think some of these other
men made like the WCC, you want to know where
you're at because non conference team like so, I think
it does matter. That's why I brought up that analogy.
As bad as it is, you do want to know
where you yet to know how you're doing. And maybe
this is that's more of a you know, between you
and your spouse or companionship inventory t.
Speaker 2: And you just win that it doesn't matter where you're ranked.
Speaker 1: If you went out, but if you're not, because sometimes
you don't always went out. Sometimes they're metric and those
things is good to know to see where you haven't.
Speaker 5: But I think that's the coach talk argument is like
that you're at because if we just win.
Speaker 2: Then we're in, which I agree with. I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't care if coaches care about the rankings. In fact,
I don't think that they need to. My only caveat
is don't tell me.
Speaker 2: You don't tell me.
Speaker 1: So because Lonnie said, guys, I know what's aware of it,
I'm like saying that's what gets you in trouble.
Speaker 2: Killannie is just say you know, like, yeah, we know
it's there.
Speaker 1: We don't care though, Like if I think if you
say that, people like that's fine, Like, yes, I saw it.
I was like, we win to Big twelve, that doesn't matter,
we're in. Well, I'm with that comment.
Speaker 7: Klonnie started taking an approach that it would being more
open and eyes about how he felt about the rankings
towards the end of the season two though as well,
talking about I mean how he felt disrespected in the
way that they were handling things said in his Klonnie
professional way, but I mean, I think we have heard
from Clonnie in the past talk and I know this
is a little bit of tangent talking about how he
doesn't really look at the rankings or take too much
stock into that. I think he's starting to realize that
a little bit, with the way that the football playoff
has turned into a little bit of a pageantry show,
that you kind of have to care about the rankings.
So anyways, all this to say that I appreciate that
Clonnie is saying, hey, we are paying attention to it.
We do feel a little bit disrespected. Kevin Young is
saying I don't know how these rankings work. That doesn't
mean he doesn't know what we're ranked. He obviously knows
what we're ranked. If he's saying I don't understand what
the rankings look like.
Speaker 1: I respect coaches and players and things are like, yeah,
we should be higher. You know the this is and
people are gonna have their issues.
Speaker 5: And here's the problem though, they can't say that because
as soon as they do, then everyone takes that quote
and runs with it.
Speaker 2: And I think that's the real reason they say they
don't pay attention.
Speaker 7: They do.
Speaker 5: If he comes to big media storm and it's like viral, well,
that's not what I said, That's not what I meant.
You're now the media is in their fields because I
said I disagree, when in reality it's like, no, I
respect him for saying he looks at it and he
pays his engine, but he can't because if he does,
then the media will make it.
Speaker 1: There's certain people in the media and certain national media
people does The question is when do you start saying
that about the rankings, because if you wait to the
big Teal Championship to say it after you lost and
you got boats, team, Nolan's gonna want to hear that.
You know now, I think you are great in complementary
Texas tech. You know, we'll seeing it didn't end up
working out, But to me, I think the perfect thing
that I loved is it has to be some balance, right,
balance in all things. People are gonna have a problem
with this person. They're gonna be like, ah, you know
him and Jake and body language. I love Darius Lassiter.
He's no longer part of the team, So I'm gonna
say this, which I know is okay to say. Would
always post on the social media okay cool, And I'd
ask him, I was like, why did you always post
okay cool? He was like, because I felt like we
were the number one team in the country, and I
was gonna keep acknowledging that it's nice to be ranked
top ten until we were number one. Now we didn't
get there. Like, but that that's how he felt, right,
that's how you felt. Heydari's really the like doing the media.
I'm gonna keep it a buck. There are certain people
like to do like I think.
Speaker 5: As someone who used to be a sideline reporter, I
know that those guys don't like Bro.
Speaker 2: He didn't like Mediankly.
Speaker 5: I wish that I didn't have to interview them because
I'm like, Bro, you don't want to do this.
Speaker 2: You don't want to give me a quote. You want
to get back. So I'm with you and it's not
a shot.
Speaker 1: And every time I would interviewed you last was up
Ronnie dabble or was something like I try to go quickly,
keep it short for him because I understood that those
guys just want to play play football and just get
out of and do it. But like I appreciated that
Darius acknowledge, Okay, cool, it bugged him and didn't but
we gotta go out there and play and still do that.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I like the unsatisfied but also your acknowledgement. I think
that's what we're all getting at. And this is why
ap going back to the point bringing it back. He
respects because for the longest time, now that we're back
to the point after a little tangent, the tight end
room was.
Speaker 2: A little bit of a struggle because of that. Kean
Hill wasn't a great by you tight end.
Speaker 1: You have to wonder if that was a good move
to move him. You have to wonder.
Speaker 2: I love wide receiver man, he was, he was great.
I mean, there's the guy, dragged guy.
Speaker 5: I don't think they moved him because like they moved
him because they didn't.
Speaker 2: Have tight ends. That's what it was.
Speaker 1: It goes, It goes the same thing what he said, deathwise,
they had to add people because they weren't getting those guys.
Now now they don't have it. But shout out to
a Rod being honest. He acknowledged that, And I think
that shows more about a coaching your program to understand
where you lack and where you weren't good at and
to admit that when you're able to add back to
it or get right in the right area.
Speaker 2: So respect it, Rod. But let's get back to the sound.
Speaker 4: Aaron Roddick and Kelly Papias and uh Transfer Portal guys
and return missionaries, and then really really excited about these
old linemen as well, so we can get into more
detail about those if you guys want to questions, but
super excited about the group.
Speaker 8: Yeah, similar to what A Rodgers said, I think, you know,
this came down to, you know, on paper, the best
recruiting class in BYU history. And so I think both
both offensively, defensively, even some special teams things that we
did really excited about where we are, especially defensively with
some of these linebackers, the inside backers that we got
in the outside backers that we're be able to get
not just you know, out of high school, but the
portal you know, kid Lave is a big pickup for us,
and more excited to see him have an impact here.
And then just a bunch of these other guys that
we've been waiting to come home from missions. I just
think we're Yeah, we're in a really good spot. I
think we're as deep as we've been defensively since I've
been here in the past three years. So I think
that's a credit to just everybody over the last three years.
Have we've been able to recruit and build a good
depth for our whole entire team to help us look
more like a big twelve football team.
Speaker 9: All right. First from Sean Walker, Yeah, a Rod you
you talked about Enig waltson coming back home off of
a mission, and he's a guy who I think he
got home a little bit earlier.
Speaker 10: You got to campus really quick kind of unofficially being
around the.
Speaker 9: Team and everything.
Speaker 4: But how excited are you for him to provide a
little bit of depth behind.
Speaker 2: Obviously a pretty good quarterback that you've got in there.
Speaker 3: Butler, Yeah, we're super excited about Enoch.
Speaker 4: He's he has been around for a few months now,
practiced with us in bull prep. I think he got
about six practices or so in bull practices with us,
so we've actually had him in pads and seen him
play already, and he looks really good. Very talented guy,
strong armed guy with a lot of athletic ability and
great size. And he looked good in the practice, you know,
leading up to the bowl game, and like what I
see out of him so far in the weight room.
Speaker 3: And a little we've we've thrown a little bit on
the field as well.
Speaker 11: Next question from j.
Speaker 8: Cash, I want to tell you what leg you want
to bring Tylertage.
Speaker 3: Your assistant quarterbacks coach.
Speaker 4: Tyler's a really good coach who's been on our radar
for several years. We've just stayed in touch over the
years and talked about, uh, the potential for him to
work here at some point when the time was right
for everyone and this, you know, just the way the
stars aligned. This time just seemed to be the right time.
So you know, it came close to happening a few
other times in the past, but wasn't always always right
for both parties. But he's a very good coach, a
wide wide variety of experience. He's coached just about every
position you can think of. He's been a head coach,
and he's coached all over the country and in some
good programs and in the NFL.
Speaker 3: And I would say.
Speaker 4: Similar to you know, when we hired coach Gilbride, he
brought a different it's been a lot of places in
the NFL.
Speaker 3: Also when we hired coach Woods.
Speaker 4: Coach Woods is a guy who's coached all over the
country and a lot of different programs and those those
viewpoints that you get from coaching in other places and
other offenses.
Speaker 3: You know, we're we've been pretty good at.
Speaker 4: Collaborating and pulling the best things from each of those
each guy's experience, and so we're looking for more of
that from Tyler. We hope he brings some experiences that
he can share with us that'll make our offense.
Speaker 10: Better than Kelly just wanted to ask you, you take
over the defensive coordinar, how do you think.
Speaker 12: Your philosophy will differ from what Jay Hill had to
implement it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be too much different. Honestly,
I think, you know, what we've been doing here has
been been working. We've had a lot of success with it.
I think a lot of the stuff that Jay was
doing was stuff that Klawnie's done in the past and
stuff that Gary Anderson has done in the past, And
both of those guys are still in the building. So
being able to get feedback from those guys every single
day and their influence, and then just like what a
Rod said, adding these coaches, adding Demario Warren and adding Lewis,
those guys are great coaches, And just sitting in the
room with them the last three days and having us
all together as a staff, I'm just finding that being
able to have those guys come from different places.
Speaker 12: They're bringing a new energy and not that.
Speaker 8: The energy was bad, but just just a different type
of energy here and bringing like just new ways of
seeing things and it's gonna help us improve as a defense.
And yeah, I'm excited to ad those guys here.
Speaker 11: Next question from j Drew.
Speaker 10: Yeah, for Aaron, obviously, you guys brought in from the
Trannisfer portal.
Speaker 12: I think three offensive linemen.
Speaker 10: Brought in a tight end quarterback. Are you finished as
far as offensive guys out of the portal or are
you still letting say maybe a running back or a
receiver that oppliment some of the guys who are to go.
Speaker 3: I think we're finished.
Speaker 4: I never say never, you know, I'll never say we're
completely done, never full satisfied. We know we're feel good
about our death right now, feel good about our roster,
and there's always a chance we'll add another good player
if there's a chance to add a good player, and
I always say, you know, at any position, if there's
somebody we can add that helps us win, we'll keep our.
Speaker 3: Open mind towards that. But right now.
Speaker 4: If I do feel good about where we stand with
our depth and those you know, those three offensive linemen
you mentioned, and the and the two transfer tight ends.
I mean, I expect all three of those guys to
be important players for our team.
Speaker 12: Then as far as the running back asign dev is
he the type of kid that can help you right away?
Speaker 10: And is he is he going to be joining you
in the summer or.
Speaker 3: When will he's? He's here now and he looks very good. Yeah, And.
Speaker 4: You know, and I never want to put too much
on a freshman, but if there's a if there's a
position where a freshman can play on offense, it's running back,
you know, And that's that's one position that uh, you know.
We'll see how he does, but I would not be
prize it all if he plays this year.
Speaker 3: And he's a very talented kid.
Speaker 4: We're super excited about him.
Speaker 11: Next question from Brandon Journeylove.
Speaker 8: What does he add to the defense to what already
looked like a very deep position.
Speaker 12: Of linebacker guys?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he's the guy's a very instinctive football player.
Speaker 12: He can do everything.
Speaker 8: When you watch his film from last year at cal uh,
phenomenal fitting the run for very good instincts. He's great
in coverage and man his past rush abilities are really
really good too as well. So I think he's just
he's the type of backer that we want that's a
very versatile type of guy.
Speaker 12: He can do a lot of different things.
Speaker 8: Sometimes in this game, especially at linebacker, you get a
guy that just can play in the box or just
a cover guy.
Speaker 12: This guy could do it all.
Speaker 8: And that's a combination of being a great explosive athlete
and also being a physical football player.
Speaker 12: And so, uh, those are the type of linebackers that
we that we need here and that we want.
Speaker 8: So he's gonna fit that with Glasger and Sarah and ASCAFUSI.
I mean, there's a there's a slew of guys in there, right,
It's gonna be super competitive. But you know, I think
we just felt like, just like what a Rob was saying,
if there's a chance to add a really really good
football player, we're gonna add him, and just knowing for
those other guys that it's gonna be competitive, and that's
how you want it. That's how it's gonna help our
team get better, is these guys getting in a competitive
atmosphere and helping them reach the potential as players.
Speaker 1: Look, look, the guy that played in thirty four games
with the Cal Bears over three seasons, started in twenty
six of those games started in eleven of twelve games
in twenty twenty five. He let Cal with one hundred
tackles twelve tackles for lost five QB hurries. We heard
from Casey Lnquis the other day, when you rush k
dou luave, he got to the quarterback forty eight percent
of the time. Jack Kelly got home thirty percent. But
Jack was used a lot more. So both numbers are
great depending on how you are.
Speaker 2: They were used differently.
Speaker 1: Jack will rushed the quarterback a little bit more, and
I think that was the way of Jay's scheme to
a degree. Kate was stand back. I think at Cal
different scheme that might be different. He might he might
be the same with that, But look, but look what
up bring? So can I ask you this, then go
for it? Because I had this theory last year.
Speaker 5: Again, I always liked to preface I don't pretend to
know more than K Popper J.
Speaker 12: Hill. Ye.
Speaker 5: However, the eye test tells me when you send Jack Kelly,
when you send Ig, they get home. And one of
the biggest, probably the only issue with the defense last
year was you didn't have a consistent one man pass rush.
So then that leads me to my question of why
don't you send those guys more often? Because if you're
not sending them more often, what you're telling me is
they're more valuable in their position as a either run
stopper or in pass coverage then you feel they would
be if they were rushing the passer more often.
Speaker 2: And again, I believe the coach knows ball more than
I do.
Speaker 5: I just have that question because again, now you're getting
kid who's like same deal. You'll have Cad and Ig
who are both really effective at getting to the quarterback.
So do they just not believe that getting to the
quarterback at that high of a rate is as important
as that being in pass coverage or do they feel
if Ig and Ig and Kate are going more often
that number in that percentage is going down significantly to
the point where.
Speaker 7: It's not worth it.
Speaker 2: Ideally, I think this is what they would have won
it last year.
Speaker 1: News to not have gotten and this is part of
the interview with the Ben critic. We're not saying anything that's
not news, right, No one people think I'm breaking talking
about injuries because you have to be very careful doing that.
But he had part of his achilles like repaired, and
Ig was a little gimpy, you know, he said he
was hurt at Colorado's ankle. So all of that plays
the fact on top of I'm just gonna keep it
a buck and you guys watch a tape.
Speaker 2: Jack is not very good in coverage. He's not bad,
but that's not his strength. But he's really good rushing
the past and that's what he puts.
Speaker 1: Think So think about that. Think about if you're able
to put Ig in the middle as a playmaker. And
you saw it in the Colorado game, who got the
who got the closing? I in t who was hawking
down the quarterback? So think about if you have Nucy
now in that setting. So now what you do. You
have a guy who actually, in my opinion, is a
better pass coverage linebacker than Jack Kelly Katie Luave who
can get home to the quarterback when you rush him.
Speaker 2: But now you don't have to do that. Now what
you can do?
Speaker 1: And you uh, if he hasn't gone anywhere, but I
think he's in the portal.
Speaker 2: Did he did Chay go to Michigan? I don't know
if he committed.
Speaker 5: I don't believe so, but if but if you decided
to come back, Max Alfred went, Max Aliver definitely went
to Michigan.
Speaker 2: Jay Bryant Strather is in the is in the portal.
Speaker 1: I'm looking that up right now, so we speak because
I don't know if he found a new home yet.
Speaker 7: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: But no, I just know he went to But yeah,
so he's he's in the portal. Is a three star
what is it? A three star linebacker? He's in the portal.
He is not transferred anyway.
Speaker 2: Why is Shay Bryan Strather in the portal? Huh?
Speaker 12: Why is he in the portal?
Speaker 2: Probably because of all the guys that they brought in.
But Jake Clifton is gonna play over Chay Bryant Strather
if he's healthy, Yeah, really, if he's healthy, Yeah, I
think I would take Chay. Who's who's you would take Jay?
Who's not as healthy as Jake Clifton.
Speaker 5: I mean, Chay was injured last year, but if Chase like,
I would take Chay next year. I mean, clearly, clearly
everyone knows something I don't, because otherwise would be well, look.
Speaker 1: Look to me and this is he has to withdraw
and come back right right? This is this so yeah,
and we don't know if he's with the team or not.
Maybe we might have to get confirmation. But the point
I'm making is that even if you, let's say you
do have Cha back, because I think you bring up
a good point. Even with the without Cha, the linebacker
room is great. You have Kid in the middle, you
have I g who can get get after the quarterback.
You have Nucy Thalel who can get after the quarterback.
You have to city Akana. Those guys with Ig and
k can playing coverage. I like that a little bit better.
I do personally.
Speaker 7: I want to see Nucy in a Kyle Van nuy
type role.
Speaker 2: That's what you're gonna say. I think you're gonna see that.
Speaker 7: That's all I want to see. I think you're gonna
see that he'll turn into I think he could get
similar production to what KBN got, and I think he could.
Really it's a great take out a career in the
NFL by doing that. So I really want to see
Neucy take on that that kV type role.
Speaker 1: Noxt you and Brandon Gurney in the same page of
what We're about to see from Nucy take that jump
is crazy and I'm excited to see what the Cilia
Kana Texas the transfer from Texas. Those two guys are
throwing in I g and kid this boy and Keanutnavasa
and if you're able to get JT back on waiver, Look,
this is gonna be a great defensive unit. And then
you got guys in the backfield. I like this Katie Luave.
I think is a better coverage linebacker than Jack Kelly was.
And look, Pacto Defensive Freshman of the Year, First Team
All American selection, the Athletic College Football News All ACC
Honorable Mentioned twenty twenty four. He's got twenty one point
five tackles for lost, six sacks, three i in T's,
two forced fumbles, and three seasons of cows two hundred
and thirty seven career tackles.
Speaker 12: That's NFL numbers.
Speaker 2: That gets you there. First Team All ACC last year.
Speaker 1: This is a great two I mean, leaves a two
way player out of Mountain Rich High School. Look, the
local product is a great addition. I think it's a
great I want to say upgrade because you got to
see him play, but with what he's performed, he's able
to do. You like this coming in with losing Jack
Kelly and what you have to replace that. Braxt Lindsay's
a guy that keeps forgetting to get talked about. I
know there was someone that posted at the other day
Braxon is gonna have his chance, Brax and also is
a guy that's gonna be able to get out to
the quarterback Kelly Papina. Look there, people are skeptical, but
I trust K Pop. If you look at what they've
done in the recruiting ram of who they gotten in
the transfer portal, it is phenomenal. Just wait on it.
You're gonna like it. Spring Ball starts up soon and
then the seasons they'll have to learn. But I like
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get into it. Let's not wait.
Speaker 1: This was Coach Justin and A and Coach Poa, the
associate head coach, addressing the media.
Speaker 2: Yes, the other.
Speaker 14: Day head coach title that media have essential number two. Yeah,
I mean it's you know, it's a it's a prove
as an honor to be able to serve in that capacity. Uh,
just continue to do what all of the coaches have
done in this building is really just amplify the message
and the culture of the team and just finding ways
where we can continue to exercise and and and not
only established but really maintain, if not elevate the culture
of the team. And so not only to myself, but
all all the position coaches, everybody from support staff to everyone,
just continuing to build and maintain and even elevate the culture.
So it's a you know, definitely an honor and privilege
to be able to do that. And be able to
have a hand in serving that in that in that role.
Speaker 10: And I just wanted to ask you if they put
Shad k as the outside linebackers coach edge, how is
that gonna work out with you?
Speaker 7: Coach?
Speaker 14: And I guess yeah, basically just coaching the D line
and so you know we'll do. I coach all the
guys that take care of everything from really the five
technique to another five techniques, so everything in the box, uh,
and upfront is what I'll coach.
Speaker 11: All right, Next question for nich Harper.
Speaker 15: For both coaches, just maybe describe when you know j
Hill left for Michigan, maybe just what the maybe emotions
were of just having a change and maybe just what
was going to be next for the program and what
that process was like with Kilanie leading the.
Speaker 7: Way on the program.
Speaker 13: You kind of hit it on the head right there.
It's it's Kilane leading the program.
Speaker 12: And so.
Speaker 13: We were we were excited for for Jay and what
he wanted to do, and it was his decision to
make and we knew it was going to be a
natural progression of growth for people stepping into spots where
we've never been before. So uh, again, I think Colonie
leading the program and the culture being strong is what
solidifies BYU to be BYU's programming. He does a heck
of a job and and we believe in his leadership
and it's always going to be kind of the next
man up. And I think as long as Coloney stays
consistent man, we were going to be in a good spot.
Speaker 12: Yeah. Yeah, you know you talk about emotions really too.
Speaker 14: Two emotions to go with right, One of separation because
we all love each other. I mean, at the end
of the day, I know we're coaches and all that stuff,
but behind behind those those titles, I mean we're fathers
and we're husbands, we all have relatable stories, we all
have histories, and so just kind of the separation. Of course,
we miss each other, but like coach and talked about
well wishes and we're super excited for them and for
their venture going on. But that also gives the emotion
of excitement about the new rules ahead of us, and
so we get to reinvent ourselves, which is super exciting.
Probably the best part about this occupation, reinventing yourself and
becoming more of the version that you need to be,
and so just moving forward and then obviously Colin and
being at the helm just you know, makes it really
consistent and just really exciting.
Speaker 12: To follow up on that.
Speaker 15: What's how's this defense going to reinvent itself? You've got
a foundation already, but what's maybe the new wrinkles that
are going to be in this defense with Kelly Pinga.
Speaker 14: Well, I like the fact that you're gonna be able
to see Kelly Pepinga's person finality in it, and what
that is is that's why you have the process of
spring balls, you continue to refine what that identity is
going to look at. I think there's gonna be a
lot of similarities, but obviously more importantly is that you
see Kilanie's thumbprint on that right and the things that
are important to him and the principles.
Speaker 12: Obviously, we're going to continue to teach the.
Speaker 14: Principles of defensive football and continue to stay sound with that,
but you'll be able to see the personality of Keley
Pepinga and most importantly the foundation of Kilani in there.
Speaker 10: Next question from j Driel, I got two questions for
Justin Justin. I know you get a lot of special
teams work in the NFL, but well, you make many
changes to what Kelly's has got going in that group
and kind of what's your experience working with special teams
throughout your career.
Speaker 12: Yeah, the standard is already set.
Speaker 13: I mean think for the most part, the goals don't
change a lot. Techniques and fundamentals stay pretty much the
same as well.
Speaker 12: There might be a few tweaks at the punt game.
Speaker 13: But for kickoff, kickoff return, and punt return, you have
to be sound.
Speaker 12: You have to make sure that.
Speaker 13: You're matching the opponents whatever formation they have, So that's
not going to change a lot. I think the punt
does change up just as a tad possibly, but just
a few minor tweaks.
Speaker 12: The goals again, will always be.
Speaker 13: Making sure that we're attaining forty two plus yards on
the punt, minimizing punt return at thirty to eight plus.
I mean, there's so many rules that are already set
in place that are really good numbers that will put
you probably top fifteen, top ten in the country, and
that's what we're going to be doing.
Speaker 12: I've coached it at Utah.
Speaker 13: I was a special coach Best Teams coordinator with Shrefshaff
from sixteen seventeen and eighteen, and I actually kind of
cut my teeth. That was the first thing I did
at Southern Utah my first two years was a special
teams coordinator with Ed lamp So I've done coaching it
in college, but also quite a bit in the NFL,
learning from some of the best like John Harbaugh, who
is our special teams coordinator in Philadelphia, and his assistant
was Dave Tobe, who's the assistant.
Speaker 12: The assistant there was the assistant at the.
Speaker 13: Time, but now as the especially teams coordinator at the
Kansas City Chiefs. So special teams means a lot to me.
You know, That's how I made four years out of
the NFL. And uh, I'm going to make sure that
the kids understand that you got to bust your button,
do your thing to become the very best and help
help our team win as many games as possible.
Speaker 10: And I wanted to ask you about Kate, who I
know you're not doing the linebackers anymore, but what does
he bring? Can he plug in for Jack Kelly? And
how excited are you guys just to get him from Cal.
Speaker 12: Again?
Speaker 13: He was the number one linebacker from the transfer portal,
So there's no doubt in my mind, he's going to
be a huge contributor in the linebacker room. The way
he plays, he's very very intentional, and you can tell
that just how he plays. He's he has a motor,
he's violent. So there's no doubt my mind. He's also
a master of the film because you see his reads,
his reactions are are elite, and so I think Kelly's
got some some dangerous weapons in that linebacker room.
Speaker 11: Next question from Brandon Gurney. Yeah, question for both Warren
and lewis.
Speaker 10: With these guys, if many and won are your initial
impressions of these guys and how are they gonna help
the defensive stuff.
Speaker 14: Well, we had a little film session this morning and
just to kind of see the depth and really the
the views of you know, both of those coaches. I mean,
it just brings a great wealth of knowledge of experience
to the defensive staff and to be able to talk
to boys and really see what their take on it
probably is the most important part. And so as you
talk to the players, they respond really really well to
both of their coaches and their positions. So supers just
excited to see them kind of take their rooms and
run with it and have us all learn from them
as a whole. But just having that, you know that
that perspective and the depth of knowledge that they've had
have really been really enlightening.
Speaker 12: To our room.
Speaker 14: And then when you talk to our players, it's even
more of an impact and they're super exciting as well.
Speaker 13: I don't know Lewis as much, but I can talk
about Damario Warren for this whole time if I needed to,
Me and to Mario coach together for six years at
Southern Utah. A great, great football coach, a brilliant defensive
back mind, and above that, probably a.
Speaker 12: Better human being than I've ever been around with. I
consider him a brother. He is a good, good man.
Speaker 13: The guys have an incredible mentor. Our players do to
rely on Demario Warren. So again, I think we got
the best of the best, and he's gonna help us
a ton defensively and then as a team.
Speaker 11: Next question from Mitch.
Speaker 15: Harper, Yeah, justin, I wanted to ask good the special
teams unit that you're inheriting, what's kind of the personnel outlook?
Is Sam vander Horror returning at punch and then we're
going to be the main contenders at kicker to replace
will Fare.
Speaker 13: Yeah, we're we're working on that Sam Vanderhrr. Right now,
I'm with the Portal and then with all these guys
trying to get their extra years back for for Juco,
where we're trying to appeal something and seeing if it
will work and if it does, great, If not, it's
gonna be Fuller sure right now as the number one punter,
and I think he's done a pretty good job. I
mean consistently, he's got a big, big leg, and we
hope to get Sam back as well, but I think
Fuller has done a really good job too as well,
just stepping in and and and having that leg and
and and trusting the people around him. With our kicker
situation right now, it's Matthias Dunne as the number one
in spring and we have Ian Sanchez as his backup.
Speaker 12: It's wide open right now. We'll get Brody Laga.
Speaker 13: Back in in April, and so he's going to be
coming full force ready to go too. So we have
we have some some talent, some big big legs. We
got Tyson Tye Smith as a snapper. He's going to
replace Garrison Grimes, and I thought he's done a really
good job. So we have some good personnel, We got
some talent and excited to see them perform not only
during spring ball but but follow as well.
Speaker 12: Excellent.
Speaker 11: Do we have any other questions of next one from Jacash.
Speaker 3: That's the only similar.
Speaker 8: Question to what we just asked about, Like Sam Bangerhart
don talk about you're back in cell.
Speaker 7: You know what the status is?
Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 14: I don't know what the status is on that. You know,
currently we do our best to be able to to
be able to support them, but not to lead you know,
their pursuits in that and so just doing the best
part to be able to support him and in what
his and his team is doing going forward to that.
Speaker 12: So everything's kind of pending as of now.
Speaker 8: And then also just in you're this defensive line, the
defensive front is continuity and development.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean we've got a bunch of uh, you know,
great returners coming back, and we've got Justin Kurtlin, we
have un E c.
Speaker 12: Purcell.
Speaker 14: Uh, we have obviously Cautnuwasa and you know, those guys
leading the lead from the front. But then you also
got some great players with Ulivai Fetuli and you got
Gill Eppie, I mean, you got some younger guys, and
we've got you know, a couple of return missionaries that
have come back. And then we've had some additions of
Namma Cologne, and we got Body and Ville and so
you name all those guys been there, they've been there
and done that. But he also got a great cast
right behind them, just learning and being great understudies and
and not only just being understudy, but but there are
gonna be some contributors to and so we feel like
we we've got ourselves in a pretty good spot.
Speaker 12: And knock on wood, but you.
Speaker 14: Know, right now we're preparing to go into the spring
and and that has a different dynamic and then in
that spring time that we prepare to get in the
fall ball. But I feel like we got a good
guys in there that know a lot of great things,
but a lot of upcoming players that will do a
lot of good and contributions.
Speaker 11: All right, do you have any other questions?
Speaker 2: That was a lot of good takeaways.
Speaker 1: So first, I love I told you there's a reason
why he was associate head coach.
Speaker 2: That was him speaking.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure behind those titles our husbands or fathers, you.
Speaker 2: Know, builders admit like that, do you not hear.
Speaker 1: Kalonie Sataki in that people already getting confused with pictures
on the sidelines. Anyway, again, Kilanie's not the guy that
has the shirt of the towel that puts on the
hat to block it out. That's but I love that
he made that comment, you know, like the titles are
the promotions. Yeah, okay, cool, great, great, but it's not
it's not what it is. And it shows to what
his son Vil has said. Because when Ville says, yeah,
he doesn't talk about football at home, I thought it
was very interested, like, oh, he just wants you to
be a I just want you to be my son.
I was like, what, you don't bring that to the crib.
I think it's powerful. I think that's powerful in the sell.
Some people, yeah, he's making it up out of they
talk about it. But I think that's really a good
character of a person of who you are. Let them
enjoy their life and be who they are and live
to the fullest. I mean, you talked about the emotion
of excitement techniques and then to flip to just Ana,
what is he gonna do on special teams techniques and
fundamentals will state the same look, there's some guys playing
right now special teams that might get their spots taken.
They're bringing in some good talent. I think Legend glask
is a guy that you need to watch out for.
He's the guy that has true speed. Parker, I know,
is gonna be a Red shirt. Seen him, but Parker,
he was dinged up, but he dropped the couple. Tiger
made a couple of mistick less Dear, you don't want
to do that now. On the flip side of it,
to stay on that, Matthiahs Dounn is gonna be the
number one. Sounds like you said that, Big leg I
think you said Ethan Sanchez gonna be backing them up.
Brody Loga comes back in April. The reason why I
bring up special teams is BYU is phenomenal.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's special Teams losing your guy Yeo, boy, Will Farren,
I think is you know it's a big deal because
Will was one of it was a super concer, just
kickered the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: To ou, it is hard.
Speaker 1: To find a kicker like that that was automatic like that.
He was over what eighty percent of his career stuff
to get a kick kicker like that there's gonna be
kicking on Sundays, I firmly believe. But I like what
you have coming up. Five star Brody logat Matthiah's done
is a good one.
Speaker 2: This is good.
Speaker 1: B Y is gonna be in a good spot. And
I'm excited to see what Justin and and them do.
Speaker 5: I still can't believe that Will Fern is gonna be
kicking on Sundays you served with because I remember, like
I remember being in that apartment in Surrey first Ward,
and I remember, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I caught kicks on p days. But I
remember if you trust him that he was gonna take
off your finger.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I didn't hold you know, he brought the
thing in his superk You never know, Will might.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, we'll might do everything. Will had all
the equipment. I was just standing behind the posts.
Speaker 5: And catch him back. But I just remember, like sitting
in that apartment.
Speaker 2: I remember one time.
Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, I'm gonna go to the NFL someday,
and I was like, Hey, hate to break it to.
Speaker 2: You, dude, but gosh, don't really get drafted like that kid.
I get what a dumb.
Speaker 5: Bleep was I dude, what an idiot? Was I me
telling Will Fair and he's not gonna go to the league.
He's going to the league, Dude. I know that's not
what we're talking about right now. But when you mentioned that,
I'm just like, I look back and I'm like, I
cannot believe.
Speaker 2: I doubted that this kid was gonna go to.
Speaker 1: The I wonder if Bruce Mitchell thought that the Top
King would get drafted. Valid Bruce Mitchell was was the
Top King's campaign.
Speaker 7: Up there, and see thought that Bruce Mitchell would get.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, either way. Hey, look he goes both ways, right,
that's what they say. I do have a question for you, though,
did Will let you kick?
Speaker 12: Ok?
Speaker 2: I mean I I didn't.
Speaker 5: I that would be like ask just let me ask
you this, Okay, if you went to Michael Jordan's house,
would you ask to take jumpers with him?
Speaker 2: Or would you stand under the hoop and catch him
and pass him back?
Speaker 5: I would ask I would absolutely not show my broke
jump shot to Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're compaying, well, friend of Michael Jordan.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but kicking is not like one of those things
that anybody can just do. Anybody can shoot a basketball.
Kicking is not one of those things.
Speaker 1: Anybody, well to your point that, yes, I would ask
Michael then to that point, I would ask Michael to see.
Speaker 2: My Brojemp shot. But yeah, no, I never I've been
told I don't have a bad fam. I told him
need to slow down on my release. That's what I've
been on the kickings jumping, sorry, my shooting. Yeah, formed,
I mean kicking.
Speaker 1: Kicking is not one of those Just walk up and
you will reveal something that people are gonna be like, no,
you're lying, and I'm not. My dad actually kicks in
my pro in Chicago. We tried to do that in
high school. It did not pass genemically. That's all I
will say on that. So we we stayed on special
teams trying to return stuff because we had speed.
Speaker 2: So that's what we could do with the.
Speaker 7: Other We decided our fantasy draft order by kicking field goals.
Speaker 2: I'm not that genius. Yeah it's genius, But what you pick,
that's how you gotta tell us.
Speaker 7: You know what I picked, But I'm not going to
tell you how many people are in the league. I
picked six.
Speaker 2: How many people are it was a personally maybe twelve
and eighteen. I know you playing a real league. Play
in a real league, not a cheap league like the
eight leagues.
Speaker 7: Okay, I picked six or seventh. Three people did not compete.
They got the last three spots on my I think
only one person kick worse than I did. I thought,
I thought, that's not twenty five yard field goal is
not a given persons.
Speaker 5: He takes so much hate for doing like the in
stadium kicks, like for the car or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, it's hard. Can I tell you something
I would do that. I really feel confident and I'm
not even lying. I honestly believe they did that keys
car thing. And they hit three point shots in the Marrod,
not the half court shot. I would feel that. You
give me, like, what a minute or it's forty five
seconds to hit one, two three.
Speaker 2: I feel I could do that. I think to hit
accidentally three.
Speaker 7: They can actually shoot.
Speaker 2: The few times I will say, though, like only one
persons made it, and they made the half court on
the same day. Depth perception. Shooting at your church gym
is not the same shooting in a in a well.
Speaker 1: I I have had the privilege of being able to
play in annex I've had the privilege of being able
to play in the annex.
Speaker 2: In the Marria.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you got a wall behind that hoop, is
what I'm saying to you. Your depth perception gets thrown
off because there's no.
Speaker 2: Wall behind the hoop.
Speaker 1: You talk at the arena, No, I think I could do,
because I've played in there before.
Speaker 7: I think i'd be able to.
Speaker 1: You were talking about the ANNX, but and I've also
played in the Marriot. I played them both. Remember the
media game. You know, I played the media game, so
I thought the media game is at THEX. No, that
was I could say it because he got permission the
old BYU coach of the basketball team. A certain friend
of mine got married. His bachelor party was we could
play at the Anx. We played there. The media maddeness
game was at the Marriott Center. But to Brett's point,
my first three was a fat air ball because that depth.
Speaker 2: Recession throws you off.
Speaker 1: I won't lie that I adjusted, but oh boy, was
it bad at first. Anyway, we gotta go to break,
but before we do, I don't want to give you
a little insider report brought to boy Big O'tire's an
American fork honest, hard working, cass transparent mechanic that's also
a big BYU fan.
Speaker 2: This is jam Jordan put this on this Twitter.
Speaker 1: But this is last night, as you were saying, I
wanted to make sure I just put this out there
so we have it, because I don't know if we've
done that yet. Last night on the BYU Basketball with
Kevin Young shout out to him a Hey Movie, assistant
coach Brandon Donson said that Dawson qualifies to return next
year for a six season if he wants. I don't
care what your thought is, what your thought, I want
you all to give it though.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it. They need him period.
Speaker 1: In a discussion, you need someone back next season that
has played in this system, that is a secondary, a
primary ball handler, regardless of it, you need that person. Yes,
Dawson Baker Ron the three man weave on February sixth,
I know you'll be recovering.
Speaker 2: Wants you back for a sixth season? And anybody else
that says no, if? I bet you want him right now?
And guess what, he's still the fourth leading scorer.
Speaker 7: Caleb your thoughts, I know we want him right now.
I don't think there's a single BOU basketball team that
would not benefit from a Dawson Baker. So I have
personal feelings on the matter too. I know I mentioned
on air before my second son, his name is Dawson,
watching Dawson play. My oldest son, Benton sit there and say, hey, Daddy,
Dawson's next to me on the couch and Dawson's on TV.
Love that yo, Go Dawson, Go Dawson, make that shot.
I want to be singing that song next year too.
I want, I want my I want, I want my
dB back. I want Dawson on the screen and on
the couch. As we say in our household.
Speaker 2: Brent close it out for us, Oh, Mike drop for you.
Speaker 5: The same people who say BYU doesn't need Dawson Baker,
the same people who say Dawson Baker is not that good,
are the same people who say that A Rod's a
bad offensive coordinator. Look, if you want to say A
Rod's a bad offensive coordinator, If you want to say
BYU basketball doesn't need Dawson Baker because he's not that good,
you know you should also say hey, Also, by the way,
this is me, I don't know ball. Oh just tell
me you don't know ball if you think Dawson Baker
isn't a bucket getter.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we want him back for a sixth year.
Yeah he needs to come back for a six year.
Speaker 1: Need him back, need him back, But you need to
get back to an honest, heart, working, costs, transparent mechanic.
That's also a big bau Fen, Ryan Eldritch. Look, I
told you yesterday he's kept the Ford Focus running one
hundred and seventy four thousand miles and check exactly. She's
doing wonderful. Twenty ten, she's the Infinity. He's doing wonderful,
almost like I'd almost think it's close to three hundred thousand,
two thousand and nine. He took off the dashboard. He's
fixing it, and he'll get you the VIP products, VIP service,
VIP discounts, Mittion, Ben Crido, Mitching, ESPN, you'll get the products.
As Ben says demanded, don't be, don't be, don't be
a rude, but say, hey, I was told this and
he's gonna hook it up.