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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome back to Wying the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera. In with me today

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<v Speaker 1>is Jagin's Aws. Now we have Kobe with breaking news.

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<v Speaker 2>Having some trouble with the breaking news sound today, but

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<v Speaker 2>from breaking news from yesterday from sports. The Arizona men's

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<v Speaker 2>wheelchair basketball team had their championship ceremony yesterday for their

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<v Speaker 2>national championship win.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool? Cool? What did they get ringers on them? I

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<v Speaker 3>believe so? Yes? Okay, sorry did that?

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona Sidney Stewart takes Big twelve D one Softball Player

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<v Speaker 2>of the Week honors.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, they must have a lot of studs out there.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never even heard her name. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I said, right, the one who's controlled it

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<v Speaker 1>is nets Devin Nats.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, both, you know, as they hit her and a pitcher.

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<v Speaker 4>As we talked about that, I'm bum and I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>get I didn't get out there to see him even

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<v Speaker 4>one time this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what we need. You know, what, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have season tickets? No, we need to get season tickets

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<v Speaker 1>even when we have it, because they're not very expensive,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, like eighty bucks, hud buck and then

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<v Speaker 1>go whenever we have Yeah, yeah, I know you're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not doing anything. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Rookie quarterback Shador Sanders will swear number twelve with the

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<v Speaker 2>Browns after DeAndre Carter claimed his signature number two. Sanders

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<v Speaker 2>starts Mini Caamp Friday and noted number twelve was also

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<v Speaker 2>worried by mentor Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, mentor Tom, I didn't do such a good job,

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<v Speaker 3>did he. I'd rather have him?

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<v Speaker 4>And then yeah, but you know, out of the whole

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<v Speaker 4>shedor thing, I'm what I'm tired of hearing about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Go out there and play and let's see what you

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<v Speaker 3>can do. And that's it, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, you know, maybe they'll be talking about you as

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<v Speaker 4>a steal in the draft and all that, but let's see.

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<v Speaker 3>You know again, I think in the end he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>He wasn't as good as he thought he was, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and as good as the media thought he was. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>all those guys get put in them and sure high

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<v Speaker 4>up in mock drafts, you know, mel Kiper, you know specifically.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, and we don't know this to be true,

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<v Speaker 1>we just saw it in real time, is that there's

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<v Speaker 1>more to being a good athlete. Uh, and being hot

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<v Speaker 1>and being yeah, yeah, you have to be a good

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<v Speaker 1>and not to say he's not a bad a good

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<v Speaker 1>guy or a bad guy. You don't fall that far,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, without having an ego.

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<v Speaker 4>There's yeah, there were some obvious things to to to

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL that a lot of the things that they're

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<v Speaker 4>saying that dropped him in the draft for things that

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<v Speaker 4>you can get away with if you're really really good. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>Let's again, let's look at his teammate, Deshaun Watson. He's

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<v Speaker 4>got like fifty thousand central assault allegations, but he's so

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<v Speaker 4>damn good he's still got a chance to play well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think back in the day, and I could be

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with Ryan leif kind of had this and he

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<v Speaker 1>went number two, turned out to be not the best

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<v Speaker 1>number two, right, right, because you have that yeah something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and and and yeah, there was something. He was

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<v Speaker 4>so damn good. He kept getting chances, and he kept

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<v Speaker 4>playing with different you know, with different teams to finally

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<v Speaker 4>he you know, he ran himself out of the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers outfielder Taoscar Hernandez placed on ten day in your

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<v Speaker 2>list with the growing screen.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell you just want this out. Yeah, is

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<v Speaker 1>he one of your guys?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, out for a while. Expect board tragedy.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, he's one of my best player on my fantasy team.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're not doing well. I'm I'm at the top

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<v Speaker 4>of the list. But I didn't the league. But I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't see. Did this just come out?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it came out. Let me see.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a problem. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm upset. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm upset. It's all right, it's all right. Well, he

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<v Speaker 4>played yesterday. I know that an hour ago. Okay, he

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<v Speaker 4>played yesterday. When do they play? They had three forty Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>they're on not in the lineup, obviously, not dang it.

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<v Speaker 2>The Mariners claimed outfielder Leonto Taveris off waivers from the

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<v Speaker 2>Rangers and reinstated utility man Dylan Moore from the Ile.

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<v Speaker 2>Seattle has optioned some med Taylor to Triple A and

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<v Speaker 2>DFAD reliever Luis Costillo.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, they're not very good. Who's winning that West? Who's

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<v Speaker 1>winning your West? No?

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<v Speaker 3>The Dodgers, they got the best record in baseball right.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, so they they've straight they're on a streak right now.

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<v Speaker 3>They've won like seven of eight or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>They're they're they're on a bit of a tear.

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<v Speaker 2>Clemson and Notre Dame have agreed to play each other

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<v Speaker 2>every year from twenty twenty seven through twenty twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>and a twelve year schedule deal.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw that that even if they're not scheduled to play,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, because Notre Dame has that eight agreement with

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<v Speaker 4>the ACC, they're not they're not an ACC member, but

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<v Speaker 4>they play a bunch of the a SEC teams, and

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<v Speaker 4>even if they're not scheduled to play them, they'll said,

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<v Speaker 4>they'll schedule him separately, so for everybody wants to play

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<v Speaker 4>the game.

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<v Speaker 2>But Big Twelve commissioner Brett Yormac has signed a contract

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<v Speaker 2>sension through twenty thirty after hoping SEC you're a two

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<v Speaker 2>point two eight billion dollar TV deal and four school expansion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yourmac has led the Big twelve through major realignment and

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<v Speaker 2>positioned it ahead of the Big Twelve by locking in

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<v Speaker 2>media deals early.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, all last year during the football season

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<v Speaker 4>and then even during basketball season. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 4>refreshing that Arizona was in a league that had a

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<v Speaker 4>good commissioner. Oh yeah, yeah, much different after all that time,

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<v Speaker 4>much different. The tail end of Tom Hansen's time, the

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<v Speaker 4>whole time Larry Scott was there, and then a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of time that George whatever his name was whatever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know that there was a long period of time

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<v Speaker 4>where you just felt like the Pack twelve just was

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<v Speaker 4>not being run well and it got run to the

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<v Speaker 4>point where it got run out. Yeah, you know, it

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<v Speaker 4>was just nice to you felt like you've got a

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<v Speaker 4>commissioner that a has some influence and.

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<v Speaker 3>B is kind of smart, good at what he does. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Top twenty twenty six quarterback Jared Curtis commits to Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>Monday night, choosing the Bulldogs over Oregon.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we'll see how good he is. What else we got?

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<v Speaker 1>I sent you something on the text Yeah with you

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<v Speaker 1>of a involving the APR stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>The NCAA released the latest Academic Progress Rate through the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three twenty four academic year, and Arizona Athletics

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<v Speaker 2>had ten programs eorn the perfect single year of one thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>which continues the legacy of supporting student athletes in the

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<v Speaker 2>classroom as well as in competition.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things Jay is, I think that the

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<v Speaker 1>transfer portal, how that's going to affect that maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to track that because everyone's moving, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a certain amount of time to get

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<v Speaker 1>your degree in that window, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So here's.

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<v Speaker 4>The here's that the credits, transfers and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And let's say you went to some crappy school for

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<v Speaker 4>and how does it you know, or vice versa, and

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<v Speaker 4>how does all the I don't know how they can possibly.

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<v Speaker 1>No one talks about that part of it though, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>well he went to into the school, he's gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>paid money and blah blah blah. No one talks about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and not that it's important because you know, hell the

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<v Speaker 1>academic part of it. Yeah, well, and then he didn't graduate.

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<v Speaker 1>How many guys are in the transfer portal A few thousand? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how many are not going to end up somewhere?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a bunch of them? And then what the no degree?

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<v Speaker 4>There was that study that they were talked about a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit while the last time I was on is

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<v Speaker 4>that you know, there was a study that in college basketball,

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<v Speaker 4>like the previous year or the previous couple of years,

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<v Speaker 4>that sixty five percent of the players that went into

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<v Speaker 4>the transfer portal, went into either didn't get another school

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<v Speaker 4>or went to a lower level school, right, went to

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<v Speaker 4>major or mid major to you know, a lower school.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and it.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't say specifically how many players did not get a school, which,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the question that doesn't ever get answered in

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<v Speaker 4>any of this stuff is if a kid transfer, it

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<v Speaker 4>jumps in the transfer portal, doesn't get to come back

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<v Speaker 4>to a school, doesn't get another school, is he done

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<v Speaker 4>with college?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he done? Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Does he not have a scholarship anywhere? And now he's

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<v Speaker 4>got to go pay his own way to go to school?

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<v Speaker 1>And no one talks about that. That's that's the most

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<v Speaker 1>interesting part of it. Yeah, because here you are, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't want to be the old dude

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<v Speaker 1>says you know you're getting an education yet yeta and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has own agenda. But that's pretty important. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to screw that.

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<v Speaker 4>Up, right, you know, I know Conrad Conrad Martinez got

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<v Speaker 4>a school, right, he's a he's a high point or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>But let's say and he's a smart kid, right, Let's

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<v Speaker 4>say nobody had picked him up.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, is well you and.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't come and he cut and he doesn't you know,

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<v Speaker 4>can't come back to Arizona. You know, where does he

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<v Speaker 4>go for college anymore? After being a you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>high level recruit or whatever and they're paying for a

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<v Speaker 4>school and now nobody's paying.

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<v Speaker 3>For your school.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you do? Do you finish college or

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<v Speaker 1>do you not? Well, that's why these decisions are need to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be they need to be thought through.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Calves will be without Evan Mobley, Darius Garland,

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<v Speaker 2>and DeAndre Hunter for Game two as they trail the

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<v Speaker 2>Pacers won nothing in the series.

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<v Speaker 3>They hurt. Yeah, they jone.

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<v Speaker 2>Scarland was out last game and now all these guys

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Christmas coming in here and wanted to be

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not into Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing that that was going to be the case that

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>After a Game seven loss to the Warriors, Rockets coach

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<v Speaker 2>says the young squad made huge strides and will come

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<v Speaker 2>back better. GM Rafael Stone hinted at roster continually yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but left the door open for trades if improves title chances.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they had a pretty good season, not a pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>very good season.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a heck of a coach, and they have a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of picks I know from the Hard and trade.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, there's a guy hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you see a fight with him in he was

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<v Speaker 2>He's lost four four game sevens with four different teams.

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<v Speaker 4>he was a beast in the playoffs. Yeah, but he

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome back to our on about hero Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're jakins Aus. I think

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<v Speaker 1>do five to two zero four one six seventy four forty.

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<v Speaker 1>went to you went to the it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw your family at the spring game. What did

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<v Speaker 4>It was just fun? I thought I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>Were there one of the fans. Fun the right amount

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<v Speaker 1>You had Tucson, Arizona. The night was a little cold,

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<v Speaker 4>I think if it hadn't been as cold, there'd been

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<v Speaker 3>It was different. There's still fans who want to come

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<v Speaker 4>And people got to think, understand, there's those are gone.

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<v Speaker 4>a fun event. And I think that that part of

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<v Speaker 4>it was cool, and I think it'll spill into you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you're hearing that they're probably gonna do to meet the

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<v Speaker 4>team type of event. Do we remember those right where

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<v Speaker 4>go out? Before that? Did Tomy? You know, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>my kid, My kid was little and he would you

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<v Speaker 4>players would be at tables around the field and you'd

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<v Speaker 4>my son's poster. We bought a frame for it, and

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<v Speaker 4>each year, you know, would put the new one in

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<v Speaker 4>all those guys from that era. Your kid, right, and

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<v Speaker 4>Danny Martinez one of those kids. He and Adam would

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<v Speaker 4>But that's how long he's been going to that and

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<v Speaker 4>And those things connect the community, connect fans to your team,

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<v Speaker 4>so that you're not complaining about the money they're made.

428
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<v Speaker 4>And then you realize these are kids who are making

429
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<v Speaker 4>a living, making a good living, but you know you

430
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<v Speaker 4>want them to have fun with those guys.

431
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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you something here and you'll say so

432
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<v Speaker 1>if you were you were in the media business there,

433
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<v Speaker 1>how would you change things?

434
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<v Speaker 3>Or would you if I was in the media at

435
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<v Speaker 3>the office with a team like the.

436
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<v Speaker 4>Football team, try and get them out more. You don't

437
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<v Speaker 4>get them out more visibly, right, you know? How about

438
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<v Speaker 4>with the me how about open the damn locker room

439
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<v Speaker 4>after games?

440
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<v Speaker 3>Right?

441
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<v Speaker 4>You know, instead of picking two guys to come and

442
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<v Speaker 4>talk to the media and that's all they get. Yeah,

443
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<v Speaker 4>and that's all they get. Just say, okay, we're going

444
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<v Speaker 4>to pick two guys to come and talk to the meeting.

445
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<v Speaker 4>But everybody, you can go talk to all the other guys.

446
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<v Speaker 3>Right, you got a certain amount of time.

447
00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:52.480
<v Speaker 4>Right, you got x amount of time, and then they're

448
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<v Speaker 4>going to head to the locker room.

449
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<v Speaker 3>All you need is fifteen minutes.

450
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, we would you know, we would go to practice, Steve,

451
00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:02.519
<v Speaker 4>and you'd get a guy for ten fifteen minutes and

452
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<v Speaker 4>they're talking off the field, and you'd have a story.

453
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<v Speaker 3>Well the thing is back and we're going back in

454
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<v Speaker 3>the old days.

455
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<v Speaker 1>Right. Well, but you'd get your guy, I'd get my guy,

456
00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and we'd have different Right, we wouldn't have the same story.

457
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<v Speaker 3>Nobody wouldn't have the same story.

458
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<v Speaker 1>Everybody here has the same story, just how different you

459
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<v Speaker 1>write it.

460
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<v Speaker 3>That's that's the one thing I would do.

461
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<v Speaker 4>Now, it's not the side off, it's not the sports

462
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<v Speaker 4>information office. It gets to decide that. It's the coach

463
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<v Speaker 4>and the administration. Now they have general managers.

464
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<v Speaker 3>It's those guys.

465
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<v Speaker 4>Have got to understand that connecting these players through the

466
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<v Speaker 4>community sells tickets.

467
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<v Speaker 1>So Jay, you say this, and I have a smell

468
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<v Speaker 1>on my face thinking, you know, this is not brain surgery.

469
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<v Speaker 3>It's not it's not rocket science at all.

470
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<v Speaker 1>And it's and I remember talking to an ad back

471
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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, maybe not too long.

472
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<v Speaker 3>Ago, this say is, well, things have changed, No they haven't.

473
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<v Speaker 1>You've changed changed. You've changed it.

474
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<v Speaker 4>You you have decided that the media is a bad thing,

475
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<v Speaker 4>right that you don't trust the media to come in

476
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<v Speaker 4>and talk to your kidd and get their story.

477
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<v Speaker 3>You think the media is going to come.

478
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<v Speaker 4>In here and try and find something bad about the

479
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<v Speaker 4>kids so they can run with that. Well, and there

480
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<v Speaker 4>are guys who do that. We know that there's guys

481
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<v Speaker 4>in Tucson who do that. Sure, right, So let me

482
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<v Speaker 4>let me say this. The kids are making a lot

483
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<v Speaker 4>of money now. They're very they're very bright, they're very savvy. Uh.

484
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<v Speaker 1>And I think that you have a past or maybe

485
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<v Speaker 1>president or afraid what they'll say.

486
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<v Speaker 4>Don't don't worry, don't worry about that. You know, people

487
00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:32.640
<v Speaker 4>want they just want story. They just want the stories.

488
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<v Speaker 4>They want to know who these kids are.

489
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<v Speaker 1>Part of the part of the things that I asked

490
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<v Speaker 1>you an hour ago, what do you know about Aaron Gordon,

491
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<v Speaker 1>what did you tell me? But but but in his back,

492
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<v Speaker 1>we didn't.

493
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<v Speaker 4>You nothing about him, don't even know where he's from.

494
00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:47.920
<v Speaker 4>Johnson Johnson's Stanley Johnson.

495
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<v Speaker 1>These one and done guys who they could have had

496
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of publicity locally. You didn't hear much DeAndre.

497
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<v Speaker 1>We didn't know he was a funny dude until we

498
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<v Speaker 1>got access to the locker room.

499
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<v Speaker 4>I think, I think when it when it comes to

500
00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:04.200
<v Speaker 4>U of a basketball because because they were always selling,

501
00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:06.960
<v Speaker 4>selling all the seats, they didn't feel like they needed

502
00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:10.160
<v Speaker 4>to do that without questions and question community lost touch

503
00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:12.839
<v Speaker 4>not with the program but with the players.

504
00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:15.119
<v Speaker 3>They have lost touch and still have lost touch with

505
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<v Speaker 3>the players. How well do we know Carter Bright? Right?

506
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<v Speaker 3>You don't.

507
00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:22.799
<v Speaker 4>Now there was a lot of stuff done done on

508
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<v Speaker 4>him through the n cua A tournament and stuff like that.

509
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<v Speaker 3>And that's where.

510
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<v Speaker 4>You could they because CBS gets access right and the

511
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<v Speaker 4>knocker room from right.

512
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<v Speaker 3>But through the.

513
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<v Speaker 4>Course of the season, you know, you as a reporter

514
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<v Speaker 4>or Justin Spears or Michael lev or whoever, they don't

515
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<v Speaker 4>get to go sit down in the locker room with

516
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<v Speaker 4>these guys, you know, uh, And and I think that's

517
00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:50.559
<v Speaker 4>the that's a really it's just a bad thing that's

518
00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:54.279
<v Speaker 4>happened to college athletic because the coaches stopped trusting the

519
00:23:54.359 --> 00:23:58.200
<v Speaker 4>media to just want to tell stories. And I get it,

520
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<v Speaker 4>there's some bad just like there's bad guys in everything.

521
00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:03.880
<v Speaker 4>There's bad guys in the knees media who are looking

522
00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:06.279
<v Speaker 4>to just go be able to you know, to to

523
00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:08.680
<v Speaker 4>ask a kid the hard question. And you know, and

524
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<v Speaker 4>I saw you at the blackjack table when you should

525
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<v Speaker 4>have been, you know, in your room.

526
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<v Speaker 3>Guess what's fault that was? Yeah?

527
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<v Speaker 4>Not the media is yeah, exactly, So you know, and

528
00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:21.839
<v Speaker 4>they want they want to baby these kids. Well yeah,

529
00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:24.079
<v Speaker 4>but this kid's making a million dollars a year. Who

530
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<v Speaker 4>are you babying them?

531
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<v Speaker 3>Right? Right? No, you're right, That's why I asked.

532
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<v Speaker 4>But I think I think that's been the biggest thing

533
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<v Speaker 4>and that universally across all college athletics to hear football, basketball, softball, whatever.

534
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<v Speaker 3>They don't let you get to the players. Hey, you're

535
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<v Speaker 3>on the air nine of the ball. Who's this? It's Rick?

536
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<v Speaker 11>How are you guys doing it? Rick?

537
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<v Speaker 1>Good?

538
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<v Speaker 3>Good? Hey?

539
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<v Speaker 11>Jay?

540
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<v Speaker 3>How's Rick doing?

541
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<v Speaker 11>By the way, just real quick.

542
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<v Speaker 3>He's okay, he's getting old, really fast, but he's good.

543
00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:55.799
<v Speaker 3>He's good, He's good logo.

544
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<v Speaker 11>Anyway, to your point, there's two parts of this that

545
00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:05.039
<v Speaker 11>people need to appreciate. Number One, the Athletic Department needs

546
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<v Speaker 11>to educate these young people on how to speak with

547
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<v Speaker 11>the media, but also how to speak to the general public.

548
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<v Speaker 11>And I'll give you a good example of it. And

549
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<v Speaker 11>I excuse think when Luke Walton and Richard Jefferson were here,

550
00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:27.720
<v Speaker 11>they would go to their different restaurants around town and

551
00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:31.119
<v Speaker 11>you would see them and most of the people gave

552
00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:37.079
<v Speaker 11>them their space. But they were always very polite, respectful,

553
00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:42.960
<v Speaker 11>and people respected them. And that's because Luke and the

554
00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:47.799
<v Speaker 11>AD department ros they taught these young people how to

555
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:53.799
<v Speaker 11>interact with the general public. And also the coaches set

556
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<v Speaker 11>a great example of how to interact with the general public.

557
00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:05.279
<v Speaker 11>And for whatever reason, and they let fear override the

558
00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:09.160
<v Speaker 11>opportunity for these people to be young people, to be

559
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:13.079
<v Speaker 11>successful and to educate them how to handle the public period,

560
00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:16.640
<v Speaker 11>no question, whether it's no question, and that to me,

561
00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:20.079
<v Speaker 11>that's on the A D Department to start with, and

562
00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:22.799
<v Speaker 11>the coaches have to be respectful of the fact that is,

563
00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:28.079
<v Speaker 11>without these the public, nobody is buying their tickets.

564
00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:30.319
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly why you asked Jay this question.

565
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<v Speaker 3>There's no attachment to these guys if.

566
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<v Speaker 1>You, if you're Rick, I know you're a sponsor and

567
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:37.599
<v Speaker 1>not a sponsor, but you you believe in these kids,

568
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:39.799
<v Speaker 1>and you and you follow U of A for a

569
00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:42.200
<v Speaker 1>long time. If you fell in love with a guy

570
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<v Speaker 1>or a woman who who you really admire their story,

571
00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:46.880
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna say, you know what, I'm gonna help this

572
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:49.799
<v Speaker 1>guy out, you know, otherwise you don't know the guys.

573
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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I'll give another great example, Pokey. When she was

574
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<v Speaker 11>here with Joan, she she was she was just an

575
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:05.079
<v Speaker 11>oversized kid, and she had a heart of gold. And

576
00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:08.400
<v Speaker 11>I used to tease her all the time when she

577
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:11.640
<v Speaker 11>was dealing with knee surgery because I would see her

578
00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:15.200
<v Speaker 11>uh and I'd say, well, come on, he lets this

579
00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:17.559
<v Speaker 11>old man dealing with knee surgery and we'd laugh and

580
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 11>have a good time. But she was always very good.

581
00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:23.920
<v Speaker 11>And Joan taught her and the other players d D.

582
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:28.279
<v Speaker 11>Wheeler how to be part of the community. And they're

583
00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:30.920
<v Speaker 11>not doing that and that falls on the A D

584
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:36.240
<v Speaker 11>Department and the coaches. Thanks guys.

585
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<v Speaker 4>You know, as Rick was talking, I was thinking about

586
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:44.440
<v Speaker 4>why has Steve Curbin so wildly successful when he was here,

587
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:49.640
<v Speaker 4>he learned one well, how to deal with the media

588
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:52.240
<v Speaker 4>and how to deal with the public, but also the

589
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:53.160
<v Speaker 4>importance of it.

590
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 3>Sure, no question, I'll give you.

591
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll go one further because back in the day, and

592
00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:59.559
<v Speaker 1>this is when we were covering the teams, right and

593
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:03.079
<v Speaker 1>I think, whoever you know, Joe his kids and blah

594
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>blah blah, because he let them grow up, maybe to

595
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:08.759
<v Speaker 1>the sometimes the demise, but he let them grow up.

596
00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Sean is now with TV with san Antonio Sakura was

597
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:15.279
<v Speaker 1>doing his TNT. Now he is who he is, the

598
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Channey's doing TNT. Richards do becoming this famous guy on

599
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:23.680
<v Speaker 1>all these guys had access to us, knew how to

600
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>deal with us.

601
00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:27.839
<v Speaker 4>Right now they become us, right and they know how

602
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:29.799
<v Speaker 4>to do it, and they can do it really well

603
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:32.279
<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent, you know, I mean, you know there

604
00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:34.480
<v Speaker 4>and then there are guys that that you couldn't get to,

605
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:38.920
<v Speaker 4>who don't you know, want that and who probably if

606
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.200
<v Speaker 4>they had been more like that, like those, they might

607
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:43.960
<v Speaker 4>have been more successful. They might have gotten more of

608
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:46.599
<v Speaker 4>an opportunity, whether it's in the league or as a

609
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:48.200
<v Speaker 4>coach or whatever.

610
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:50.880
<v Speaker 3>We're in the media. Yeah, and and and and those guys.

611
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:53.119
<v Speaker 3>It's just such an if.

612
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:55.160
<v Speaker 4>Again, it's it's one of those things that you feel

613
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:59.039
<v Speaker 4>bad that they've got this opportunity as college athletes.

614
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:00.839
<v Speaker 3>To be a part part of all of.

615
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:05.559
<v Speaker 4>This, and yet the athletic departments around the country take

616
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:09.039
<v Speaker 4>a big important chunk of it away from them and

617
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.680
<v Speaker 4>just say, well, we're afraid of what you might say

618
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:13.839
<v Speaker 4>to a newspaper reporter, so you're not allowed to talk

619
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<v Speaker 4>to them.

620
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:16.319
<v Speaker 1>That makes no sense to me, especially in the day

621
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:17.319
<v Speaker 1>of nil when you.

622
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.279
<v Speaker 3>Need to tell their stories. Yeah.

623
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and let me tell you, in house media is

624
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>not telling their stories, yeah, because you know they have

625
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:25.319
<v Speaker 1>their their stuff.

626
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:27.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not.

627
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:30.160
<v Speaker 4>But like you know, I'm sitting as we're talking about

628
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:32.559
<v Speaker 4>something about you know, there was this one football practice,

629
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:34.720
<v Speaker 4>remember we have to you'd have to go to football practice,

630
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:37.000
<v Speaker 4>and that's but that's where you get your stories. And

631
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:40.359
<v Speaker 4>Dana Wells had won It was the end of the

632
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:43.599
<v Speaker 4>season and Dana Wells had won the Morris Trophy. Remember

633
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:45.759
<v Speaker 4>that it was given to the they used to go

634
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:47.880
<v Speaker 4>in to the best offensive and defensive lineman in the

635
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:50.480
<v Speaker 4>Pac ten. And it was like it was like the

636
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:53.759
<v Speaker 4>I think it was the Wednesday practice. It was like

637
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:57.960
<v Speaker 4>the last big practice before their last game, and it

638
00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:00.680
<v Speaker 4>was when they practiced out of that for the the

639
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:04.319
<v Speaker 4>recreational field is uh and you need to go there

640
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:06.200
<v Speaker 4>and I need to talk to him. And I said,

641
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<v Speaker 4>I said, you know, I need to talk to you.

642
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<v Speaker 4>And he said, okay, he said, walk me back to

643
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<v Speaker 4>the to the steam. I said, well, I'll give you

644
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<v Speaker 4>a ride.

645
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<v Speaker 1>He got in my car. Yeah, yeah, no, no, because

646
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 1>that's the opportunity.

647
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<v Speaker 3>I got in my car. Yeah. Yeah.

648
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<v Speaker 1>Let's take this call real quick. Hello, you're on the

649
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<v Speaker 1>air nine in the mall.

650
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<v Speaker 3>Who's this? Hek Steve.

651
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:25.440
<v Speaker 12>This is Don Who's who's that riding with you today?

652
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? No, guy, I showed up out of nowhere.

653
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<v Speaker 5>Don Or.

654
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<v Speaker 12>Did I miss the Dodgers portion of the show today?

655
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:38.559
<v Speaker 3>Well we got time, We got time. Yeah, that's done.

656
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<v Speaker 12>You know, you guys are talking about the media availability

657
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<v Speaker 12>and everything. The thing is is these kids, a lot

658
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:51.400
<v Speaker 12>of them, they have their social media, so they're they're

659
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.160
<v Speaker 12>already out there, and and and the athletic departments or

660
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:58.079
<v Speaker 12>the coaching staffs they're still afraid of these kids. And

661
00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:01.079
<v Speaker 12>these kids already know what's gone on on. You know,

662
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<v Speaker 12>things happen, things have been happening, like during their high

663
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.319
<v Speaker 12>school days and somebody got embarrassed or this or that.

664
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<v Speaker 12>And I think a lot of these kids there are

665
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<v Speaker 12>they're savvy, and like you just said, they take it

666
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<v Speaker 12>away from them. And yet the coaches always say we're

667
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<v Speaker 12>looking out for the best for these kids. Sure, well

668
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:21.839
<v Speaker 12>you're not because you're not teaching them exactly.

669
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 3>You're exactly what we're talking about right now.

670
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:27.680
<v Speaker 12>You know, if you never taught your kids how to

671
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.079
<v Speaker 12>ride a bike, you were just inviting them to have

672
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:31.640
<v Speaker 12>a disaster later on.

673
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

674
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:35.000
<v Speaker 12>I mean, And that's and that's such a big part

675
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:38.279
<v Speaker 12>of it. And you know, you can't tell these coaches

676
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:42.079
<v Speaker 12>that you know, they're they're walking on eggshells any at everything.

677
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:46.039
<v Speaker 12>They're jumping at every shadow there is well with having

678
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<v Speaker 12>to re recruit and everything else.

679
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<v Speaker 1>Right, no question, let me say this done and you

680
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:51.599
<v Speaker 1>play are going to be surprised by this.

681
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:52.640
<v Speaker 3>And Jane knows this.

682
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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the coaches and I'm not just here,

683
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:59.079
<v Speaker 1>are control freaks total and they more than ever.

684
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<v Speaker 12>Yes, well that's why I said back in the day,

685
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<v Speaker 12>there was no way the head coach didn't know what

686
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<v Speaker 12>was going on.

687
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

688
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:12.559
<v Speaker 12>There's no way that these coaches don't know those those

689
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:15.400
<v Speaker 12>type you know, bad things that are happening in their program.

690
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:17.960
<v Speaker 12>They they there's no way that they don't know these things.

691
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:20.920
<v Speaker 12>And the thing is is if they think that they're

692
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 12>shielding these kids, they're trying to shield themselves from for

693
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.519
<v Speaker 12>having less headaches. I'm saying, I'm guessing.

694
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.680
<v Speaker 3>Sure, sure, let me let me ask you. But they're not.

695
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:31.400
<v Speaker 12>They're not helping their program.

696
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 1>Now, so done, I don't know your history of whatever.

697
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you have kids? Do you have Okay, so you

698
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:38.720
<v Speaker 1>have kids, and I don't want to ask you. Just

699
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Jay has kids. I have kids. Luckily, my kids are

700
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:44.039
<v Speaker 1>good kids. Jay's kids are good kids. I'm sure yours

701
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 1>are too. But you're the ad right now. Now, now

702
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you have five hundred and fifty kids, right when you

703
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>go to sleep, How comfortable are you waking up the

704
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>next day and.

705
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:57.359
<v Speaker 4>Thinking, I hope nothing? What do you do five hundred

706
00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:59.279
<v Speaker 4>and not that many? Yeah, of course you do. Yeah,

707
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:01.759
<v Speaker 4>but you I had three kids and.

708
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:02.200
<v Speaker 3>I go to bed.

709
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Now you might say you're thinking, Okay, I'm gonna trust

710
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:06.880
<v Speaker 1>these guys are making good decisions. Yeah, but you have

711
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to let them make decisions.

712
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:11.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. You have to let them make mistakes.

713
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.480
<v Speaker 12>And you have to tell them, Like I told my boys,

714
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:16.960
<v Speaker 12>because I have two boys, I told them, you know,

715
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:20.200
<v Speaker 12>when you leave the house, you're making the decision to

716
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:23.200
<v Speaker 12>finish that trip to school. Once they hit like junior high,

717
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:25.920
<v Speaker 12>I was like, hey, you're the one making that decision. Yeah,

718
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:28.279
<v Speaker 12>but you're gonna have to live with the decision you make.

719
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:30.640
<v Speaker 12>So if you go to school, you do the things

720
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:33.000
<v Speaker 12>you're supposed to do, things are good at the house,

721
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:37.079
<v Speaker 12>you get things whatever. But if you don't, then the

722
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:39.640
<v Speaker 12>opposite's going to happen. So you you, you have to

723
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.599
<v Speaker 12>trust these kids, and you have to, you know, put

724
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:45.680
<v Speaker 12>the repercussions out there, teach them, you know, teach them

725
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:48.799
<v Speaker 12>what's right, what's wrong, what they what they can do,

726
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:52.839
<v Speaker 12>what they shouldn't do, and they're gonna make their own decisions.

727
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:53.400
<v Speaker 3>Sure, because they do.

728
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<v Speaker 1>In the time and the time that I covered the

729
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Loop for twenty five years, there's only one maybe two,

730
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<v Speaker 1>And I would even know what the two is of

731
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:03.359
<v Speaker 1>things that you said, oh god, and it was Gilbert,

732
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>because you never knew what the hell Gilbert was going

733
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to say, but that neede it good for us because

734
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.159
<v Speaker 1>you didn't know what he was going to say. But

735
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<v Speaker 1>of all the students that came through, the players, the

736
00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:14.880
<v Speaker 1>student athletes came, that was one dude. There's one dude.

737
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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't that bad. You know what I'm saying.

738
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, it's it's and they they were they

739
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:23.840
<v Speaker 4>were afraid of the you know, athletic departments and coaches

740
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:26.039
<v Speaker 4>are just afraid of their shadows when it comes to

741
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:26.920
<v Speaker 4>that good point.

742
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:28.400
<v Speaker 3>And that's what it was.

743
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:34.280
<v Speaker 12>And the thing nowadays, every every everything and every every

744
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.800
<v Speaker 12>body can be forgiven and if you make a mistake

745
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:41.440
<v Speaker 12>and on up to it, you know, at least I mean,

746
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:45.400
<v Speaker 12>in today's society, you're going to get credit for that. Yeah,

747
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:49.199
<v Speaker 12>I mean, you know, how can you blame the coaches nowadays?

748
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 12>With players having their agents and handlers and all these things,

749
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:58.199
<v Speaker 12>and now it's legal. You can't put everything on the coach,

750
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:04.159
<v Speaker 12>the old the lack of institutional control because truly they

751
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.039
<v Speaker 12>don't have that because they can't even control their own roster.

752
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:09.800
<v Speaker 3>Know, you're right, exactly, no, you're exactly right.

753
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:11.960
<v Speaker 12>So that's not even a that's not even a real

754
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:14.280
<v Speaker 12>thing that that a coach, if he got put in

755
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:17.480
<v Speaker 12>a bad situation, can argue and go, look all these

756
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:19.320
<v Speaker 12>things have been taken out of my hands already.

757
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:21.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, talk to their agent.

758
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:25.599
<v Speaker 12>Yeah yeah, don't talk to me. Talk to the agent.

759
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:28.039
<v Speaker 12>Go talk to them, and then come back to me

760
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:29.239
<v Speaker 12>and tell me what you find out.

761
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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's the problem two that I have. And not

762
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:32.800
<v Speaker 1>that it's a problem because I don't have to live

763
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:35.599
<v Speaker 1>with it. We just write about it and talk about it.

764
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Is your coach and you have your your star quarterback,

765
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:40.679
<v Speaker 1>you start running back whomever, and you've got to be

766
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>play nice with them because in a month, a two

767
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:47.519
<v Speaker 1>or whatever he could be you could just if I

768
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:49.159
<v Speaker 1>didn't like the way he talked to me like this,

769
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:56.599
<v Speaker 1>YadA YadA, and I'm gone, yep, yep, yeah.

770
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<v Speaker 12>I mean it just seems like like a that note,

771
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:07.320
<v Speaker 12>you know, promoting your program and making your guys available

772
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:12.400
<v Speaker 12>and actually probably you know, maybe pushing some We gotta

773
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:17.320
<v Speaker 12>go ideo people to take it easy on them. But anyway, guys,

774
00:36:18.519 --> 00:36:19.039
<v Speaker 12>have a good one.

775
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:20.360
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Thanks Sun for the call.

776
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>We got to another call, don't you on the air

777
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and on the ball, who's this reunited? And hey, does

778
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:31.880
<v Speaker 1>your buss know you're on the phone. Radio does your

779
00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:33.760
<v Speaker 1>does your buss know you're on the phone.

780
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:38.719
<v Speaker 10>I'm driving home, so maybe you don't get pulled over

781
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:40.000
<v Speaker 10>while I'm multi tased.

782
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:44.880
<v Speaker 3>But this old guy radio is is cool. But you

783
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:47.800
<v Speaker 3>can't like like he said, he made an eloquent.

784
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:53.480
<v Speaker 10>Point, there's a complete lack of institutional control nowadays with

785
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 10>everybody in these your door senders with doubt, Dion Sanders.

786
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Of course she wouldn't be probably a started quarterback.

787
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:05.400
<v Speaker 10>But do you think about the sense of entitlement and

788
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.880
<v Speaker 10>everything that a coach would have to deal with that had.

789
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:11.519
<v Speaker 3>To be his father in his college.

790
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:15.760
<v Speaker 10>Or think about the Florida A d in the hernn

791
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:16.639
<v Speaker 10>this days.

792
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, right, good, No, No, you're you're right, I mean,

793
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:22.760
<v Speaker 1>come out.

794
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:25.760
<v Speaker 3>How difficult would that have been? Yeah? Yeah, no, you know.

795
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:30.599
<v Speaker 4>It's it's just because, like like everything else, Mike, we

796
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:34.599
<v Speaker 4>it's you know, we were just not letting kids, young

797
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:39.519
<v Speaker 4>people do things because we're afraid of what they might do. Sure, right,

798
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:42.519
<v Speaker 4>so often and we don't trust them to, you know,

799
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.119
<v Speaker 4>to make decisions and fall down and get back up

800
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:46.639
<v Speaker 4>in those If.

801
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:49.159
<v Speaker 1>I were this and you were the student athlete, you know,

802
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>what you were doing at eighteen nineteen twenty years old. Right,

803
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.440
<v Speaker 1>those days are gone and people now know exactly right.

804
00:37:55.920 --> 00:38:00.639
<v Speaker 13>Smart cameras around and the trial in there is all part.

805
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 3>Of growing up.

806
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:05.159
<v Speaker 10>I'm going to get until I was thirty seven, still

807
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:09.360
<v Speaker 10>still learning, still learning, So like.

808
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:11.960
<v Speaker 13>Like for instance, and I remember talking about this with

809
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.760
<v Speaker 13>Steve about the whole Bobby hur Lead incident, getting the

810
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:18.800
<v Speaker 13>guys off the court and not shaking hands.

811
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:20.360
<v Speaker 3>They have to shake.

812
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:25.440
<v Speaker 10>Hands because the thing was the fally, the fall, and

813
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:28.480
<v Speaker 10>then you gotta be accountable for what you did because

814
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:32.679
<v Speaker 10>you're raising student athletes like students. You're raising young men.

815
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:35.880
<v Speaker 10>Excuse me, they're not they're professional. You're raising young men

816
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:39.239
<v Speaker 10>because still you're raising people to be in society. That's

817
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:42.840
<v Speaker 10>a part of school and that's in quotation marks. But

818
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:47.840
<v Speaker 10>everything with this nil and these players getting paid, it's

819
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<v Speaker 10>just like again, I hate to say the same thing.

820
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:55.079
<v Speaker 10>A lack of institutional control and a lack of control

821
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:58.519
<v Speaker 10>period and that contradicts everything that you just said. But

822
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:01.320
<v Speaker 10>the good coach there could show freaks, but they ain't

823
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:02.079
<v Speaker 10>got that control.

824
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:05.679
<v Speaker 3>Do you imagine Bill Belichick how long he's gonna last?

825
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:09.400
<v Speaker 10>How much like like kids talking to the media or

826
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:10.840
<v Speaker 10>keeping it in the house.

827
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:13.480
<v Speaker 3>And the Patriot way that's out the dang window.

828
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, wait till exactly, wait till he finds out, you know,

829
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:19.599
<v Speaker 4>when when his eighteen year old quarterback is shooting his

830
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:21.880
<v Speaker 4>mouth off on social media, he didn't handle that.

831
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:26.599
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't even have control in his own little territory.

832
00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:30.840
<v Speaker 3>But that's four. I know what you guys, well, what

833
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:33.840
<v Speaker 3>are you single? What's happily married? But if you think

834
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:35.320
<v Speaker 3>about it, I get a call there.

835
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:40.480
<v Speaker 1>But gee, wow, wait wait, you didn't say I'm single.

836
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:47.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm happily single, sir, happily.

837
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.920
<v Speaker 10>He has a secum bill.

838
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:52.159
<v Speaker 1>I can't translate on this show, but I get it.

839
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it was nothing.

840
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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hit the buttons. Good, No, thank you, Mike.

841
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<v Speaker 1>Good to hear from you, Mike A.

842
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<v Speaker 10>Tonight cowboy, cowboy, your podcast, tonight YouTube.

843
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:04.760
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

844
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get that in cowboys. What still a disaster

845
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:12.400
<v Speaker 1>they are and they will continue to be. Yes, what

846
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the hell did you say? No, no entitlement and all

847
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:16.679
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. But I kind of just want to say,

848
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:19.519
<v Speaker 1>if you want money or to prove the nil, let

849
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>them tell their story. Let us tell their story.

850
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:24.159
<v Speaker 3>Let us tell their story. Yeah, because.

851
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:30.280
<v Speaker 4>You can't just mis mistrust everybody, right, because there's three

852
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:31.360
<v Speaker 4>or four bad apples.

853
00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Everybody's a bad apple.

854
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:35.199
<v Speaker 4>And and you know, guys like Again, guys like Justin,

855
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:38.519
<v Speaker 4>guys like Mike lev guys like uh, you know, Bruce,

856
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:42.480
<v Speaker 4>Bruce and everybody you go, they just want to they

857
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:43.199
<v Speaker 4>just want to do their.

858
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.639
<v Speaker 3>Jobs and tell their stories. You know, did you see

859
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:47.679
<v Speaker 3>what's going on? Well, the start is the start.

860
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:50.880
<v Speaker 1>You worked at the Star for a while many years ago,

861
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I wre with the Citizen. There's only like three four

862
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:56.679
<v Speaker 1>people there in the sports department. Yeah, there's four people

863
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>on the staff here.

864
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:01.199
<v Speaker 3>That's not a knock. It's just the way the businesses.

865
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:03.000
<v Speaker 4>And it's the way the businesses, you know, the you know,

866
00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:05.320
<v Speaker 4>the other work that I'm doing, you know, trying trying

867
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:10.679
<v Speaker 4>to get something into the newspaper today. It's impossible, is

868
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:13.840
<v Speaker 4>a story? Yeah, any story? You know, you just can't.

869
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 4>I mean you don't have to write it. Yeah, you

870
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:20.760
<v Speaker 4>it's you can't. It's hard. Yeah, it's really hard, or

871
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:22.159
<v Speaker 4>on or on television.

872
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:24.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, because everything's been cut and everything's just not.

873
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:27.280
<v Speaker 4>Darned people around to go do that stuff. You know,

874
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:30.679
<v Speaker 4>you go through you know, you go through the newspaper

875
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:33.519
<v Speaker 4>and except for a handful of stories, everything's in you know,

876
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:35.400
<v Speaker 4>some sort of national wires.

877
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Look at sports now on TV. Not to exclude newspapers

878
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:42.559
<v Speaker 1>every I think most of them have one person sports sports.

879
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.000
<v Speaker 4>Ye who have to have a couple of days off,

880
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:46.599
<v Speaker 4>So you've got a couple of days where you know

881
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:49.360
<v Speaker 4>the news side is doing that is doing your sports

882
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:53.119
<v Speaker 4>for the day, or they don't do sports. Right, you're

883
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:55.800
<v Speaker 4>depressing me, Steve. You bring me down, man, good things.

884
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:56.920
<v Speaker 4>You're at the end of your road?

885
00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:01.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I am. Does that mean this crap anymore? You

886
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:02.760
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. You're right, I know.

887
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:04.960
<v Speaker 4>But you know, I've you know, I've got a kid

888
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:08.719
<v Speaker 4>who's two kids actually, who's sort of in the you know,

889
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:11.360
<v Speaker 4>communication side of well that adds in marketing, so that

890
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:12.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, that's a little different.

891
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:13.800
<v Speaker 3>He's you know, at the U of A.

892
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:16.360
<v Speaker 4>He's in the marketing and athletic department where they're trying

893
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:19.000
<v Speaker 4>to but do what we've been talking about, connect to

894
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:20.559
<v Speaker 4>the fans.

895
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:22.400
<v Speaker 3>Sure have you had this discussion with him? Yeah?

896
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, without selling him out or I'm sure he

897
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:25.719
<v Speaker 1>agrees he's.

898
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:30.239
<v Speaker 4>Done totally, totally it's just and and you know, I

899
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:32.400
<v Speaker 4>can tell that they're trying to do things right, but

900
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:34.760
<v Speaker 4>they're trying to do things because they need to sell tickets.

901
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Right, right, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever.

902
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:38.400
<v Speaker 3>It is, you know.

903
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:41.079
<v Speaker 4>But you know, my daughter's in in in sports information

904
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:43.480
<v Speaker 4>at the San Diego City that's like department, you know,

905
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:45.880
<v Speaker 4>and they're they're out there just doing what they can,

906
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:47.400
<v Speaker 4>putting stories out.

907
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:50.400
<v Speaker 3>But you know, San die State doesn't come and cover

908
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:51.920
<v Speaker 3>the lacrosse team.

909
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:54.079
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the San Diegre Union Tribune doesn't come and

910
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:56.679
<v Speaker 4>cover the lacrosse team or you know, the softball team

911
00:42:56.760 --> 00:42:59.960
<v Speaker 4>or whatever. Basketball and football, and that's what you get.

912
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:01.920
<v Speaker 4>They'll cover it when it's bad news.

913
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:05.559
<v Speaker 1>But the thing and it's a different market, obviously there's

914
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:08.480
<v Speaker 1>more to cover there. But here, man, it's a tough time.

915
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And I came here in eighty seven, totally different.

916
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:12.559
<v Speaker 3>You started back in the mid eighties too.

917
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:16.760
<v Speaker 1>So it's just saying you when your team was, when

918
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>your team was in season, you had something in the

919
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:22.039
<v Speaker 1>paper every day, every single and sometimes you know why

920
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.239
<v Speaker 1>you're a part of it because I knew you would.

921
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:27.159
<v Speaker 1>You did it because I you know I would, right

922
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:32.679
<v Speaker 1>except for Sunday, like you I was well aware there's

923
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:33.400
<v Speaker 1>a competition.

924
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:36.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we had fun. I remember drinking with you on

925
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 4>the coach. Well, but on the on the road in Oregon, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

926
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:43.840
<v Speaker 4>I remember the electric station.

927
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:45.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah.

928
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Goods were the issue when you they got in their fights.

929
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:51.719
<v Speaker 4>Yes, but you know, we were friendly, but we could

930
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:55.039
<v Speaker 4>and because of that, people got stuff.

931
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:57.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that was part of the charm of the

932
00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>business and people who know, we know that.

933
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.519
<v Speaker 3>I love that we've lost it. He got lost somewhere.

934
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:04.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, no papers and newspaper and Dave. When Dave

935
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>comes in here, he talks about I used to worry

936
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:08.519
<v Speaker 1>when I have to read the Citizen or read the Star,

937
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and then I don't have to go chase it too,

938
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.119
<v Speaker 1>because everybody was kind of like, you know, what they do?

939
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:14.440
<v Speaker 3>What did we do? What did they do?

940
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:19.000
<v Speaker 4>But I mean, for example, okay, we were in Kansas

941
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:23.719
<v Speaker 4>City for the UFA's Final four, all right, the night

942
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:27.320
<v Speaker 4>between games or take it back. This might have been

943
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:31.760
<v Speaker 4>the night before the games. But we were out out

944
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:34.800
<v Speaker 4>at the bars with It was me, it was Greg Hanson,

945
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:37.679
<v Speaker 4>it was Bob Young who worked for the Republic, Kevin

946
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:41.599
<v Speaker 4>McCabe who was at at the k well d I

947
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:44.719
<v Speaker 4>think Dave Silver was there. We were all together, we

948
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.199
<v Speaker 4>were we competed the hell out of it, but then

949
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:48.840
<v Speaker 4>we went out socially and we had a good time

950
00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 4>with each other, and we had a great time, and

951
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:51.639
<v Speaker 4>we loved that competition.

952
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:53.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm true. Later a night of your thinks. So what

953
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:55.000
<v Speaker 3>did you do today? What was your story for?

954
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:57.440
<v Speaker 4>You know, you wanted to beat the hell out of them,

955
00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:59.519
<v Speaker 4>but that didn't mean you had to be a dirt.

956
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:03.039
<v Speaker 1>So listener, Bill sends me this note, asked you about

957
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:03.639
<v Speaker 1>writing with me?

958
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.400
<v Speaker 3>And oh, he said he had ghosted him.

959
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:10.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I can't do I can't do it, Bill, I

960
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:12.840
<v Speaker 4>got that got stuff going on that weekend. Sorry, I'm

961
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:16.320
<v Speaker 4>sorry I ghosted you. Man, My bad, My bad, already he.

962
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Did November twenty second. I'm busy that.

963
00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:18.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm busy.

964
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:21.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm busy on the twenty second. Now, I've got stuff

965
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:24.039
<v Speaker 4>going on. I've had to move up my Vegas trip

966
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:25.760
<v Speaker 4>a couple of weeks because I got some much stuff

967
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:27.679
<v Speaker 4>going on. What did you see November third? What are

968
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:29.800
<v Speaker 4>you gonna do November third? I don't have anything November.

969
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:31.159
<v Speaker 3>There you placed Florida.

970
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:33.239
<v Speaker 4>He's on Florida in Vegas, right, we're going to be

971
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:34.440
<v Speaker 4>there the next weekend.

972
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:36.440
<v Speaker 1>So you're not going you gotta go to the third

973
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:39.480
<v Speaker 1>end of ten. Well, they have the right to, they

974
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:41.800
<v Speaker 1>have the the Formula one thing.

975
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:45.119
<v Speaker 4>I think that's the weekend of the twenty second.

976
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh really didn't really back, okay, and I take back.

977
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:52.880
<v Speaker 3>It's a weekend before that fifteenth. Yeah, I think I

978
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:54.400
<v Speaker 3>think that's uh okay, I'm not.

979
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:57.679
<v Speaker 4>Sure we're we're we're going more Vegas the weekend before

980
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:02.519
<v Speaker 4>Formula fifteen. Anyways, all right, well so I you know,

981
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:05.400
<v Speaker 4>I know that's a long discussion about about that, but

982
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:08.599
<v Speaker 4>it's the two old guys. Get off my long guys.

983
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:10.599
<v Speaker 4>But you know what, it was a better day. It

984
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:13.119
<v Speaker 4>was a more fun day. I think fans had more

985
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:16.559
<v Speaker 4>connection to their athletes and their sports and not become

986
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:18.480
<v Speaker 4>just who wins the game and who does it and

987
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:20.119
<v Speaker 4>if you don't win, you suck and we don't want

988
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:20.760
<v Speaker 4>to talk to you.

989
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 3>Sure, no, I get I get it.

990
00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:24.880
<v Speaker 1>If you had ten of us out there, ten of

991
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:28.440
<v Speaker 1>us local media guys, and we had them in front

992
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:31.519
<v Speaker 1>of the Desirays and the people there, it'd be everybody

993
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:34.599
<v Speaker 1>would have this conversation and say, this would be a

994
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:37.639
<v Speaker 1>beneficial to you and tell us yes, and it'll be

995
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:38.360
<v Speaker 1>very easy to.

996
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:41.239
<v Speaker 4>Do, right, it would be really easy to do and

997
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:44.360
<v Speaker 4>just just you know, let these guys be it's not

998
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:47.800
<v Speaker 4>it's not it's really not.

999
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:50.480
<v Speaker 1>And you'd have different different takes on different people.

1000
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:53.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well yeah, I mean, again, what what do we

1001
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:56.199
<v Speaker 3>know about the players on the UVA football team? Very little.

1002
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:58.679
<v Speaker 4>The part of the player that we know the most

1003
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:01.960
<v Speaker 4>about is no healthy and he's out in the community,

1004
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:03.199
<v Speaker 4>he's out doing stuff.

1005
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:04.440
<v Speaker 3>He's got TV commercials.

1006
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Sure, but and you know we've had you know, you've

1007
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.360
<v Speaker 4>had reporters talk to his family and stuff like that.

1008
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:13.039
<v Speaker 4>Name another player who's gotten that kind of none and

1009
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:14.119
<v Speaker 4>he used to be able to do that.

1010
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:15.519
<v Speaker 3>With a bunch of players, even Caleb.

1011
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Caleb, there was the athletic We had had her on

1012
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:21.719
<v Speaker 1>the show based in Oregon, very very charming woman who

1013
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:23.599
<v Speaker 1>wrote the story on Caleb. Did you read that story

1014
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:26.599
<v Speaker 1>just about how he's kind of changed his style and

1015
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:29.320
<v Speaker 1>unless year, no one here has written that story. Yeah,

1016
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:30.960
<v Speaker 1>but they have the opportunity to sit down with them

1017
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:32.800
<v Speaker 1>for Yeah, that's all weird.

1018
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:34.199
<v Speaker 4>I was getting, well, I was getting to that story

1019
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:36.440
<v Speaker 4>about Dane. Well, you know the guy jumps in my car. Yeah,

1020
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.880
<v Speaker 4>all right, and I drive him back to you know,

1021
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:42.039
<v Speaker 4>back Michael, which I later found out was an NCAA violation,

1022
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:44.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, And then we just sat in my car.

1023
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:46.559
<v Speaker 4>He's on his football pads and holding his helmet. Yeah,

1024
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:48.960
<v Speaker 4>And we sat in my car and talked for about

1025
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:49.639
<v Speaker 4>twenty minutes.

1026
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.239
<v Speaker 1>It's funny because it was a mile, right, not even

1027
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:52.960
<v Speaker 1>a mile to take it.

1028
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:55.320
<v Speaker 4>Well, the thing was that I didn't want to walk

1029
00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:57.360
<v Speaker 4>back to McHale then have to walk back and get

1030
00:47:57.360 --> 00:47:57.639
<v Speaker 4>my car.

1031
00:47:57.760 --> 00:47:58.480
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, but.

1032
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:02.559
<v Speaker 4>And you only drove a right, Yeah, but he jumped

1033
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:05.239
<v Speaker 4>in the car and I had a twenty minute conversation

1034
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:05.800
<v Speaker 4>with him.

1035
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:06.679
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

1036
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:10.119
<v Speaker 4>And I had and I had a good piece, a

1037
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:14.039
<v Speaker 4>good interview for that weekend. And and you know, and

1038
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:15.719
<v Speaker 4>I just remember having those with you know, with guys

1039
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:20.679
<v Speaker 4>like Darryl Lewis Parker, remember Glenn Parker, John Fien Our

1040
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:22.480
<v Speaker 4>great house, remember our great house.

1041
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:23.559
<v Speaker 3>Uh, you know.

1042
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Guys you asked you we get them on the phone

1043
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:29.199
<v Speaker 1>real quick. Yeah, lamont love it.

1044
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:31.679
<v Speaker 4>You know all those guys that you know, we would

1045
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:33.599
<v Speaker 4>get a chance to talk to and get people to

1046
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, we did the second year that I covered football.

1047
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:43.840
<v Speaker 4>Our editor said, I want a story about them that

1048
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.800
<v Speaker 4>doesn't talk about football. Each week, I had to go

1049
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 4>interview with somebody and I mean we had to mention

1050
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:52.079
<v Speaker 4>who they weren't talk about. But you try to get

1051
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:54.880
<v Speaker 4>them to talk about something, what they do off the field,

1052
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:57.000
<v Speaker 4>what's you know, what's meaningful to them?

1053
00:48:57.039 --> 00:48:57.280
<v Speaker 3>What's it?

1054
00:48:57.679 --> 00:48:59.719
<v Speaker 4>And I thought it was a hard It was a

1055
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:02.119
<v Speaker 4>hard story to do every week because trying to draw

1056
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:05.440
<v Speaker 4>these guys out to talk about something other than football

1057
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:06.119
<v Speaker 4>was hard.

1058
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:09.559
<v Speaker 1>It was it was the Conics and the Twins.

1059
00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:12.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, Ronnie Gil and Derek Hill and all

1060
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:16.480
<v Speaker 4>those guys, and and you would you know, trying but

1061
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:19.840
<v Speaker 4>it was challenging to me to try and get the

1062
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:21.639
<v Speaker 4>non football side of these guys.

1063
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, let me give you here's the here's one of

1064
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<v Speaker 1>the issues, the bad things. The alligator story. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you heard the Jack mcgrider alligator story, because then you're

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<v Speaker 1>trusting that they're telling you the truth. Well, I had

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<v Speaker 1>I had one of those. Anthony Smith. Oh yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Smith told me this whole story about how he

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<v Speaker 1>was in the backseat of a car and his friend

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<v Speaker 1>got shot and all this stuff, and he's seen some

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<v Speaker 1>bad things and he was very passionate and emotional about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I told this story and it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>gripping that he grew up in this place and he

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<v Speaker 1>was lucky to be alive.

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<v Speaker 3>YadA, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the Republic, Bob Young did the story basically

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<v Speaker 4>the same story at the Republic. Maybe was talking to

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<v Speaker 4>it a different pop Young. I can't remember his name.

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<v Speaker 4>He was an old guy. No, not Lee Chappel.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, he passed away.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah right, Bob Eager, Okay, Bob Eager does the story

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<v Speaker 4>and there was more to the story, so he embellished it.

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<v Speaker 4>So then he gets drafted in the first round. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm and I'm in I'm in the office. The

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<v Speaker 4>draft used me on the weekend, so I'm in the

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<v Speaker 4>office because I gotta do the Anthony Smith getting drafted,

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<v Speaker 4>Anthony Smith and Kevin Chris Singleton got drafted. Peter King

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<v Speaker 4>calls me and says, you know, I interviewed Anthony Smith

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<v Speaker 4>and he told me all this stuff he said, didn't

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<v Speaker 4>he said? And I said, well, I'll just tell you

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<v Speaker 4>Peter that and he told me there was more to

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<v Speaker 4>the story. I said, Peter, I'm telling you. I'm getting

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking he's making it up. Well, then it comes

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<v Speaker 4>out Peter King does the story. But then Anthony Smith

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<v Speaker 4>comes out and says none of it was true, he said,

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<v Speaker 4>And he said.

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<v Speaker 3>Then why did you do the story? Why did you

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<v Speaker 3>say all that?

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<v Speaker 4>He said, because I wanted to get attention on my

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<v Speaker 4>self so I could get drafted. He said, So you

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<v Speaker 4>thought getting an attention that you were in the back

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<v Speaker 4>seat of a car where somebody got killed was a

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<v Speaker 4>good attention to give to NFL scouts, you know. So

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<v Speaker 4>I did that story and he said, he said, I

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<v Speaker 4>had to. I had to tell that story because Chris

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<v Speaker 4>Singleton was getting all the attention, so I had to

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<v Speaker 4>get some attention on myself. So he made this stuff up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think Chris went eight and he went eleven. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're both yeah, yeah, yeah, remember that.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember.

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<v Speaker 4>So that stuff happens, you know. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>But again, it was an isolated thing. It shouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't feel like, Okay, every football player I talked

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<v Speaker 4>to from now on is gonna lie to me. I

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<v Speaker 4>just thought that was Anthony Smith. You know, I got

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<v Speaker 4>taken for a ride on him. That's the way it happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Did that happen sometimes?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure does.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we got to go right. Yeah, thank you Kobe

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<v Speaker 1>for thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>J for coming on. Thanks for having me. Man, this

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<v Speaker 3>is fun again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, we'll get you every now and again.

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<v Speaker 4>Dodger's up one nothing, Okay, we'll sleep on this. You

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<v Speaker 4>got to get the Dodge reported.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Thanks to everybody. Can see you guys tomorrow.
