Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to Wying the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera. In with me today
Speaker 1: is Jagin's Aws. Now we have Kobe with breaking news.
Speaker 2: Having some trouble with the breaking news sound today, but
Speaker 2: from breaking news from yesterday from sports. The Arizona men's
Speaker 2: wheelchair basketball team had their championship ceremony yesterday for their
Speaker 2: national championship win.
Speaker 3: Cool? Cool? What did they get ringers on them? I
Speaker 3: believe so? Yes? Okay, sorry did that?
Speaker 2: Arizona Sidney Stewart takes Big twelve D one Softball Player
Speaker 2: of the Week honors.
Speaker 3: Okay, they must have a lot of studs out there.
Speaker 3: I've never even heard her name. I know.
Speaker 1: That's why I said, right, the one who's controlled it
Speaker 1: is nets Devin Nats.
Speaker 3: Yeah, both, you know, as they hit her and a pitcher.
Speaker 4: As we talked about that, I'm bum and I didn't
Speaker 4: get I didn't get out there to see him even
Speaker 4: one time this year.
Speaker 1: I know what we need. You know, what, do you
Speaker 1: have season tickets? No, we need to get season tickets
Speaker 1: even when we have it, because they're not very expensive,
Speaker 1: but you know, like eighty bucks, hud buck and then
Speaker 1: go whenever we have Yeah, yeah, I know you're not
Speaker 1: doing anything.
Speaker 3: I'm not doing anything. Okay.
Speaker 2: Rookie quarterback Shador Sanders will swear number twelve with the
Speaker 2: Browns after DeAndre Carter claimed his signature number two. Sanders
Speaker 2: starts Mini Caamp Friday and noted number twelve was also
Speaker 2: worried by mentor Tom Brady.
Speaker 3: Okay, mentor Tom, I didn't do such a good job,
Speaker 3: did he. I'd rather have him?
Speaker 4: And then yeah, but you know, out of the whole
Speaker 4: shedor thing, I'm what I'm tired of hearing about it.
Speaker 3: Go out there and play and let's see what you
Speaker 3: can do. And that's it, you know.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, maybe they'll be talking about you as
Speaker 4: a steal in the draft and all that, but let's see.
Speaker 3: You know again, I think in the end he wasn't.
Speaker 4: He wasn't as good as he thought he was, Yeah,
Speaker 4: and as good as the media thought he was. Right,
Speaker 4: all those guys get put in them and sure high
Speaker 4: up in mock drafts, you know, mel Kiper, you know specifically.
Speaker 1: And I think, and we don't know this to be true,
Speaker 1: we just saw it in real time, is that there's
Speaker 1: more to being a good athlete. Uh, and being hot
Speaker 1: and being yeah, yeah, you have to be a good
Speaker 1: and not to say he's not a bad a good
Speaker 1: guy or a bad guy. You don't fall that far,
Speaker 1: you know, without having an ego.
Speaker 4: There's yeah, there were some obvious things to to to
Speaker 4: the NFL that a lot of the things that they're
Speaker 4: saying that dropped him in the draft for things that
Speaker 4: you can get away with if you're really really good. Right,
Speaker 4: Let's again, let's look at his teammate, Deshaun Watson. He's
Speaker 4: got like fifty thousand central assault allegations, but he's so
Speaker 4: damn good he's still got a chance to play well.
Speaker 1: I think back in the day, and I could be
Speaker 1: wrong with Ryan leif kind of had this and he
Speaker 1: went number two, turned out to be not the best
Speaker 1: number two, right, right, because you have that yeah something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and and yeah, there was something. He was
Speaker 4: so damn good. He kept getting chances, and he kept
Speaker 4: playing with different you know, with different teams to finally
Speaker 4: he you know, he ran himself out of the league.
Speaker 2: Dodgers outfielder Taoscar Hernandez placed on ten day in your
Speaker 2: list with the growing screen.
Speaker 1: What the hell you just want this out. Yeah, is
Speaker 1: he one of your guys?
Speaker 3: Yeah, out for a while. Expect board tragedy.
Speaker 4: Man, he's one of my best player on my fantasy team.
Speaker 4: So you're not doing well. I'm I'm at the top
Speaker 4: of the list. But I didn't the league. But I
Speaker 4: didn't see. Did this just come out?
Speaker 3: Yes, it came out. Let me see.
Speaker 4: I got a problem. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm upset. Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm upset. It's all right, it's all right. Well, he
Speaker 4: played yesterday. I know that an hour ago. Okay, he
Speaker 4: played yesterday. When do they play? They had three forty Oh,
Speaker 4: they're on not in the lineup, obviously, not dang it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: The Mariners claimed outfielder Leonto Taveris off waivers from the
Speaker 2: Rangers and reinstated utility man Dylan Moore from the Ile.
Speaker 2: Seattle has optioned some med Taylor to Triple A and
Speaker 2: DFAD reliever Luis Costillo.
Speaker 1: Okay, they're not very good. Who's winning that West? Who's
Speaker 1: winning your West? No?
Speaker 3: The Dodgers, they got the best record in baseball right.
Speaker 4: Now, so they they've straight they're on a streak right now.
Speaker 3: They've won like seven of eight or something like that.
Speaker 3: They're they're they're on a bit of a tear.
Speaker 2: Clemson and Notre Dame have agreed to play each other
Speaker 2: every year from twenty twenty seven through twenty twenty eight
Speaker 2: and a twelve year schedule deal.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I saw that that even if they're not scheduled to play,
Speaker 4: you know, because Notre Dame has that eight agreement with
Speaker 4: the ACC, they're not they're not an ACC member, but
Speaker 4: they play a bunch of the a SEC teams, and
Speaker 4: even if they're not scheduled to play them, they'll said,
Speaker 4: they'll schedule him separately, so for everybody wants to play
Speaker 4: the game.
Speaker 2: But Big Twelve commissioner Brett Yormac has signed a contract
Speaker 2: sension through twenty thirty after hoping SEC you're a two
Speaker 2: point two eight billion dollar TV deal and four school expansion.
Speaker 2: Yourmac has led the Big twelve through major realignment and
Speaker 2: positioned it ahead of the Big Twelve by locking in
Speaker 2: media deals early.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, all last year during the football season
Speaker 4: and then even during basketball season. I thought it was
Speaker 4: refreshing that Arizona was in a league that had a
Speaker 4: good commissioner. Oh yeah, yeah, much different after all that time,
Speaker 4: much different. The tail end of Tom Hansen's time, the
Speaker 4: whole time Larry Scott was there, and then a little
Speaker 4: bit of time that George whatever his name was whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know that there was a long period of time
Speaker 4: where you just felt like the Pack twelve just was
Speaker 4: not being run well and it got run to the
Speaker 4: point where it got run out. Yeah, you know, it
Speaker 4: was just nice to you felt like you've got a
Speaker 4: commissioner that a has some influence and.
Speaker 3: B is kind of smart, good at what he does. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Top twenty twenty six quarterback Jared Curtis commits to Georgia
Speaker 2: Monday night, choosing the Bulldogs over Oregon.
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll see how good he is. What else we got?
Speaker 1: I sent you something on the text Yeah with you
Speaker 1: of a involving the APR stuff.
Speaker 2: The NCAA released the latest Academic Progress Rate through the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three twenty four academic year, and Arizona Athletics
Speaker 2: had ten programs eorn the perfect single year of one thousand,
Speaker 2: which continues the legacy of supporting student athletes in the
Speaker 2: classroom as well as in competition.
Speaker 1: One of the things Jay is, I think that the
Speaker 1: transfer portal, how that's going to affect that maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know how to track that because everyone's moving, right,
Speaker 1: and you have a certain amount of time to get
Speaker 1: your degree in that window, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So here's.
Speaker 4: The here's that the credits, transfers and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: And let's say you went to some crappy school for
Speaker 4: a while and now you're at a really good school,
Speaker 4: and how does it you know, or vice versa, and
Speaker 4: how does all the I don't know how they can possibly.
Speaker 1: No one talks about that part of it though, you know,
Speaker 1: well he went to into the school, he's gonna get
Speaker 1: paid money and blah blah blah. No one talks about it,
Speaker 1: and not that it's important because you know, hell the
Speaker 1: academic part of it. Yeah, well, and then he didn't graduate.
Speaker 1: How many guys are in the transfer portal A few thousand? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: how many are not going to end up somewhere?
Speaker 3: Yeah, a bunch of them? And then what the no degree?
Speaker 4: There was that study that they were talked about a
Speaker 4: little bit while the last time I was on is
Speaker 4: that you know, there was a study that in college basketball,
Speaker 4: like the previous year or the previous couple of years,
Speaker 4: that sixty five percent of the players that went into
Speaker 4: the transfer portal, went into either didn't get another school
Speaker 4: or went to a lower level school, right, went to
Speaker 4: from a major from a high major to a mid
Speaker 4: major or mid major to you know, a lower school.
Speaker 3: And then and it.
Speaker 4: Didn't say specifically how many players did not get a school, which,
Speaker 4: you know, the question that doesn't ever get answered in
Speaker 4: any of this stuff is if a kid transfer, it
Speaker 4: jumps in the transfer portal, doesn't get to come back
Speaker 4: to a school, doesn't get another school, is he done
Speaker 4: with college?
Speaker 3: Is he done? Right?
Speaker 4: Does he not have a scholarship anywhere? And now he's
Speaker 4: got to go pay his own way to go to school?
Speaker 1: And no one talks about that. That's that's the most
Speaker 1: interesting part of it. Yeah, because here you are, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't want to be the old dude
Speaker 1: says you know you're getting an education yet yeta and
Speaker 1: everybody has own agenda. But that's pretty important. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't want to screw that.
Speaker 4: Up, right, you know, I know Conrad Conrad Martinez got
Speaker 4: a school, right, he's a he's a high point or whatever.
Speaker 4: But let's say and he's a smart kid, right, Let's
Speaker 4: say nobody had picked him up.
Speaker 3: Now, is well you and.
Speaker 4: He doesn't come and he cut and he doesn't you know,
Speaker 4: can't come back to Arizona. You know, where does he
Speaker 4: go for college anymore? After being a you know, a
Speaker 4: high level recruit or whatever and they're paying for a
Speaker 4: school and now nobody's paying.
Speaker 3: For your school.
Speaker 1: And what do you do? Do you finish college or
Speaker 1: do you not? Well, that's why these decisions are need to.
Speaker 3: Be they need to be thought through.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Calves will be without Evan Mobley, Darius Garland,
Speaker 2: and DeAndre Hunter for Game two as they trail the
Speaker 2: Pacers won nothing in the series.
Speaker 3: They hurt. Yeah, they jone.
Speaker 2: Scarland was out last game and now all these guys
Speaker 2: are out this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: I know Christmas coming in here and wanted to be
Speaker 1: to take to take Cleveland.
Speaker 3: I'm not into Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Knowing that that was going to be the case that
Speaker 1: three people are going to be not playing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: After a Game seven loss to the Warriors, Rockets coach
Speaker 2: says the young squad made huge strides and will come
Speaker 2: back better. GM Rafael Stone hinted at roster continually yes,
Speaker 2: but left the door open for trades if improves title chances.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a pretty good season, not a pretty good,
Speaker 1: very good season.
Speaker 2: He's a heck of a coach, and they have a
Speaker 2: bunch of picks I know from the Hard and trade.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, there's a guy hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see a fight with him in he was
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, pushing show.
Speaker 4: There may be there may not be another guy in
Speaker 4: the NBA who I root against more than him.
Speaker 2: He's lost four four game sevens with four different teams.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I why you would want him on
Speaker 4: your team, I do not know. And there were times,
Speaker 4: you know, watching that Clipper series, there were times you
Speaker 4: just look like he didn't want to be out there.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny because Kawhi Leonard, right, you see
Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard and you go, that's a guy a get
Speaker 4: He doesn't play a lot in the regular season, and
Speaker 4: now you see why so that he becomes the guy
Speaker 4: he was in the playoffs and guy who gives everything
Speaker 4: he has on the court. You see, you know, he's
Speaker 4: he's a superstar, and he thought that he's diving for
Speaker 4: and he's getting rebounds and James Harden just kind of
Speaker 4: just stands out there on the side and just lets
Speaker 4: everything happen until somebody gives them the balls.
Speaker 3: We could shoe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you think that if if Kawhi would play more,
Speaker 1: they'd have better seeds during the year because the win
Speaker 1: more games, right right, But yeah, I guess you have
Speaker 1: a save them.
Speaker 3: Yeah that load management, that is whatever you want to
Speaker 3: call it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, I mean, I I sometimes get
Speaker 4: I mean, you'd say you gotta play more. But you know,
Speaker 4: he was a beast in the playoffs. Yeah, but he
Speaker 4: just didn't have enough guys around him.
Speaker 3: The playoffs ended very early.
Speaker 2: Yes, seven points in game seven? What did he shoot?
Speaker 2: He wants to shot like three for eighty Yeah. That's
Speaker 2: it for today's breaking news.
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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to our on about hero Fox Sports
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Speaker 1: do five to two zero four one six seventy four forty.
Speaker 1: It's been a what kind of day with yeah this
Speaker 1: system in here? Yeah right, so heay, just give us
Speaker 1: a quick call. Jay hadn't been on for a while.
Speaker 1: If you want to say a little Jake get his
Speaker 1: thoughts on. If you just want to yelling you you
Speaker 1: went to you went to the it's been a while.
Speaker 1: I saw your family at the spring game. What did
Speaker 1: you make of that?
Speaker 4: It was just fun? I thought I thought it was
Speaker 4: a good event because I thought it was fun to
Speaker 4: connect fans to the field, you know, to be out
Speaker 4: to the field and you.
Speaker 1: Were there one of the fans. Fun the right amount
Speaker 1: of fans. More you need more, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You had Tucson, Arizona. The night was a little cold,
Speaker 1: but still nice.
Speaker 4: I think if it hadn't been as cold, there'd been
Speaker 4: more fans. But I also think people didn't know what
Speaker 4: is it right?
Speaker 3: It was different. There's still fans who want to come
Speaker 3: out and see a scrimmage.
Speaker 4: And people got to think, understand, there's those are gone.
Speaker 4: You know, there's not hard you know, full pads hitting
Speaker 4: just everywhere. So they tried to try to make it
Speaker 4: a fun event. And I think that that part of
Speaker 4: it was cool, and I think it'll spill into you know,
Speaker 4: you're hearing that they're probably gonna do to meet the
Speaker 4: team type of event. Do we remember those right where
Speaker 4: go out? Before that? Did Tomy? You know, I mean
Speaker 4: my kid, My kid was little and he would you
Speaker 4: know that you'd get a poster and then all the
Speaker 4: players would be at tables around the field and you'd
Speaker 4: go get their out grass and we would put up
Speaker 4: my son's poster. We bought a frame for it, and
Speaker 4: each year, you know, would put the new one in
Speaker 4: and you know, and probably till he was I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think he was getting those when he was ten
Speaker 4: twelve years old, and that frame is still in my
Speaker 4: garage with you know, Ortiz Jenkins. You know, Keith Smith,
Speaker 4: all those guys from that era. Your kid, right, and
Speaker 4: it meant a lot to him, you know, to the
Speaker 4: point where he's making a career out of working in
Speaker 4: the athletic department. You know, Danny was one of those kids,
Speaker 4: Danny Martinez one of those kids. He and Adam would
Speaker 4: go and Sean Collins, who you know also worked in
Speaker 4: the athletic department, would go to these I mean we
Speaker 4: would get there, would walk out on the field and
Speaker 4: cut him loose and then would see him at the
Speaker 4: end and hope to find him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, there's there's a really funny picture of
Speaker 4: Adam when he would have been just over two years
Speaker 4: old and he's out on the field and we tied
Speaker 4: a balloon to his to his thing to so we
Speaker 4: knew where he was if he got away from us.
Speaker 4: But that's how long he's been going to that and
Speaker 4: and you know, I've been telling those guys, bring that
Speaker 4: thing back. You know, you need to get these kids
Speaker 4: to see the players, to get their parents to take
Speaker 4: them to the games.
Speaker 3: No, for that, it was great.
Speaker 4: I watched some of the practice, but I wasn't there
Speaker 4: to see the practice, and we were there with my
Speaker 4: grandson now now he's too and and you know he
Speaker 4: ran around, he loved it.
Speaker 3: He got a little football and was throwing it. He
Speaker 3: got up on the slide and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: And those things connect the community, connect fans to your team,
Speaker 4: and that they need to do more of that.
Speaker 1: If anything, that needs to happen here locally, because without
Speaker 1: the fans and the nil and all that stuff, you
Speaker 1: know how it is two sons not not that wealthy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you got to have people in the bunch.
Speaker 4: And you want fans to get close to these players
Speaker 4: so that you're not complaining about the money they're made.
Speaker 4: And then you realize these are kids who are making
Speaker 4: a living, making a good living, but you know you
Speaker 4: want them to have fun with those guys.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something here and you'll say so
Speaker 1: if you were you were in the media business there,
Speaker 1: how would you change things?
Speaker 3: Or would you if I was in the media at
Speaker 3: the office with a team like the.
Speaker 4: Football team, try and get them out more. You don't
Speaker 4: get them out more visibly, right, you know? How about
Speaker 4: with the me how about open the damn locker room
Speaker 4: after games?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: You know, instead of picking two guys to come and
Speaker 4: talk to the media and that's all they get. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and that's all they get. Just say, okay, we're going
Speaker 4: to pick two guys to come and talk to the meeting.
Speaker 4: But everybody, you can go talk to all the other guys.
Speaker 3: Right, you got a certain amount of time.
Speaker 4: Right, you got x amount of time, and then they're
Speaker 4: going to head to the locker room.
Speaker 3: All you need is fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, we would you know, we would go to practice, Steve,
Speaker 4: and you'd get a guy for ten fifteen minutes and
Speaker 4: they're talking off the field, and you'd have a story.
Speaker 3: Well the thing is back and we're going back in
Speaker 3: the old days.
Speaker 1: Right. Well, but you'd get your guy, I'd get my guy,
Speaker 1: and we'd have different Right, we wouldn't have the same story.
Speaker 3: Nobody wouldn't have the same story.
Speaker 1: Everybody here has the same story, just how different you
Speaker 1: write it.
Speaker 3: That's that's the one thing I would do.
Speaker 4: Now, it's not the side off, it's not the sports
Speaker 4: information office. It gets to decide that. It's the coach
Speaker 4: and the administration. Now they have general managers.
Speaker 3: It's those guys.
Speaker 4: Have got to understand that connecting these players through the
Speaker 4: community sells tickets.
Speaker 1: So Jay, you say this, and I have a smell
Speaker 1: on my face thinking, you know, this is not brain surgery.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not rocket science at all.
Speaker 1: And it's and I remember talking to an ad back
Speaker 1: back in the day, maybe not too long.
Speaker 3: Ago, this say is, well, things have changed, No they haven't.
Speaker 1: You've changed changed. You've changed it.
Speaker 4: You you have decided that the media is a bad thing,
Speaker 4: right that you don't trust the media to come in
Speaker 4: and talk to your kidd and get their story.
Speaker 3: You think the media is going to come.
Speaker 4: In here and try and find something bad about the
Speaker 4: kids so they can run with that. Well, and there
Speaker 4: are guys who do that. We know that there's guys
Speaker 4: in Tucson who do that. Sure, right, So let me
Speaker 4: let me say this. The kids are making a lot
Speaker 4: of money now. They're very they're very bright, they're very savvy. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I think that you have a past or maybe
Speaker 1: president or afraid what they'll say.
Speaker 4: Don't don't worry, don't worry about that. You know, people
Speaker 4: want they just want story. They just want the stories.
Speaker 4: They want to know who these kids are.
Speaker 1: Part of the part of the things that I asked
Speaker 1: you an hour ago, what do you know about Aaron Gordon,
Speaker 1: what did you tell me? But but but in his back,
Speaker 1: we didn't.
Speaker 4: You nothing about him, don't even know where he's from.
Speaker 4: Johnson Johnson's Stanley Johnson.
Speaker 1: These one and done guys who they could have had
Speaker 1: a lot of publicity locally. You didn't hear much DeAndre.
Speaker 1: We didn't know he was a funny dude until we
Speaker 1: got access to the locker room.
Speaker 4: I think, I think when it when it comes to
Speaker 4: U of a basketball because because they were always selling,
Speaker 4: selling all the seats, they didn't feel like they needed
Speaker 4: to do that without questions and question community lost touch
Speaker 4: not with the program but with the players.
Speaker 3: They have lost touch and still have lost touch with
Speaker 3: the players. How well do we know Carter Bright? Right?
Speaker 3: You don't.
Speaker 4: Now there was a lot of stuff done done on
Speaker 4: him through the n cua A tournament and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: And that's where.
Speaker 4: You could they because CBS gets access right and the
Speaker 4: knocker room from right.
Speaker 3: But through the.
Speaker 4: Course of the season, you know, you as a reporter
Speaker 4: or Justin Spears or Michael lev or whoever, they don't
Speaker 4: get to go sit down in the locker room with
Speaker 4: these guys, you know, uh, And and I think that's
Speaker 4: the that's a really it's just a bad thing that's
Speaker 4: happened to college athletic because the coaches stopped trusting the
Speaker 4: media to just want to tell stories. And I get it,
Speaker 4: there's some bad just like there's bad guys in everything.
Speaker 4: There's bad guys in the knees media who are looking
Speaker 4: to just go be able to you know, to to
Speaker 4: ask a kid the hard question. And you know, and
Speaker 4: I saw you at the blackjack table when you should
Speaker 4: have been, you know, in your room.
Speaker 3: Guess what's fault that was? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Not the media is yeah, exactly, So you know, and
Speaker 4: they want they want to baby these kids. Well yeah,
Speaker 4: but this kid's making a million dollars a year. Who
Speaker 4: are you babying them?
Speaker 3: Right? Right? No, you're right, That's why I asked.
Speaker 4: But I think I think that's been the biggest thing
Speaker 4: and that universally across all college athletics to hear football, basketball, softball, whatever.
Speaker 3: They don't let you get to the players. Hey, you're
Speaker 3: on the air nine of the ball. Who's this? It's Rick?
Speaker 11: How are you guys doing it? Rick?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 3: Good? Hey?
Speaker 11: Jay?
Speaker 3: How's Rick doing?
Speaker 11: By the way, just real quick.
Speaker 3: He's okay, he's getting old, really fast, but he's good.
Speaker 3: He's good, He's good logo.
Speaker 11: Anyway, to your point, there's two parts of this that
Speaker 11: people need to appreciate. Number One, the Athletic Department needs
Speaker 11: to educate these young people on how to speak with
Speaker 11: the media, but also how to speak to the general public.
Speaker 11: And I'll give you a good example of it. And
Speaker 11: I excuse think when Luke Walton and Richard Jefferson were here,
Speaker 11: they would go to their different restaurants around town and
Speaker 11: you would see them and most of the people gave
Speaker 11: them their space. But they were always very polite, respectful,
Speaker 11: and people respected them. And that's because Luke and the
Speaker 11: AD department ros they taught these young people how to
Speaker 11: interact with the general public. And also the coaches set
Speaker 11: a great example of how to interact with the general public.
Speaker 11: And for whatever reason, and they let fear override the
Speaker 11: opportunity for these people to be young people, to be
Speaker 11: successful and to educate them how to handle the public period,
Speaker 11: no question, whether it's no question, and that to me,
Speaker 11: that's on the A D Department to start with, and
Speaker 11: the coaches have to be respectful of the fact that is,
Speaker 11: without these the public, nobody is buying their tickets.
Speaker 1: That's exactly why you asked Jay this question.
Speaker 3: There's no attachment to these guys if.
Speaker 1: You, if you're Rick, I know you're a sponsor and
Speaker 1: not a sponsor, but you you believe in these kids,
Speaker 1: and you and you follow U of A for a
Speaker 1: long time. If you fell in love with a guy
Speaker 1: or a woman who who you really admire their story,
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, you know what, I'm gonna help this
Speaker 1: guy out, you know, otherwise you don't know the guys.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'll give another great example, Pokey. When she was
Speaker 11: here with Joan, she she was she was just an
Speaker 11: oversized kid, and she had a heart of gold. And
Speaker 11: I used to tease her all the time when she
Speaker 11: was dealing with knee surgery because I would see her
Speaker 11: uh and I'd say, well, come on, he lets this
Speaker 11: old man dealing with knee surgery and we'd laugh and
Speaker 11: have a good time. But she was always very good.
Speaker 11: And Joan taught her and the other players d D.
Speaker 11: Wheeler how to be part of the community. And they're
Speaker 11: not doing that and that falls on the A D
Speaker 11: Department and the coaches. Thanks guys.
Speaker 4: You know, as Rick was talking, I was thinking about
Speaker 4: why has Steve Curbin so wildly successful when he was here,
Speaker 4: he learned one well, how to deal with the media
Speaker 4: and how to deal with the public, but also the
Speaker 4: importance of it.
Speaker 3: Sure, no question, I'll give you.
Speaker 1: I'll go one further because back in the day, and
Speaker 1: this is when we were covering the teams, right and
Speaker 1: I think, whoever you know, Joe his kids and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, because he let them grow up, maybe to
Speaker 1: the sometimes the demise, but he let them grow up.
Speaker 1: Sean is now with TV with san Antonio Sakura was
Speaker 1: doing his TNT. Now he is who he is, the
Speaker 1: Channey's doing TNT. Richards do becoming this famous guy on
Speaker 1: all these guys had access to us, knew how to
Speaker 1: deal with us.
Speaker 4: Right now they become us, right and they know how
Speaker 4: to do it, and they can do it really well
Speaker 4: one hundred percent, you know, I mean, you know there
Speaker 4: and then there are guys that that you couldn't get to,
Speaker 4: who don't you know, want that and who probably if
Speaker 4: they had been more like that, like those, they might
Speaker 4: have been more successful. They might have gotten more of
Speaker 4: an opportunity, whether it's in the league or as a
Speaker 4: coach or whatever.
Speaker 3: We're in the media. Yeah, and and and and those guys.
Speaker 3: It's just such an if.
Speaker 4: Again, it's it's one of those things that you feel
Speaker 4: bad that they've got this opportunity as college athletes.
Speaker 3: To be a part part of all of.
Speaker 4: This, and yet the athletic departments around the country take
Speaker 4: a big important chunk of it away from them and
Speaker 4: just say, well, we're afraid of what you might say
Speaker 4: to a newspaper reporter, so you're not allowed to talk
Speaker 4: to them.
Speaker 1: That makes no sense to me, especially in the day
Speaker 1: of nil when you.
Speaker 3: Need to tell their stories. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and let me tell you, in house media is
Speaker 1: not telling their stories, yeah, because you know they have
Speaker 1: their their stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 4: But like you know, I'm sitting as we're talking about
Speaker 4: something about you know, there was this one football practice,
Speaker 4: remember we have to you'd have to go to football practice,
Speaker 4: and that's but that's where you get your stories. And
Speaker 4: Dana Wells had won It was the end of the
Speaker 4: season and Dana Wells had won the Morris Trophy. Remember
Speaker 4: that it was given to the they used to go
Speaker 4: in to the best offensive and defensive lineman in the
Speaker 4: Pac ten. And it was like it was like the
Speaker 4: I think it was the Wednesday practice. It was like
Speaker 4: the last big practice before their last game, and it
Speaker 4: was when they practiced out of that for the the
Speaker 4: recreational field is uh and you need to go there
Speaker 4: and I need to talk to him. And I said,
Speaker 4: I said, you know, I need to talk to you.
Speaker 4: And he said, okay, he said, walk me back to
Speaker 4: the to the steam. I said, well, I'll give you
Speaker 4: a ride.
Speaker 1: He got in my car. Yeah, yeah, no, no, because
Speaker 1: that's the opportunity.
Speaker 3: I got in my car. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Let's take this call real quick. Hello, you're on the
Speaker 1: air nine in the mall.
Speaker 3: Who's this? Hek Steve.
Speaker 12: This is Don Who's who's that riding with you today?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, guy, I showed up out of nowhere.
Speaker 5: Don Or.
Speaker 12: Did I miss the Dodgers portion of the show today?
Speaker 3: Well we got time, We got time. Yeah, that's done.
Speaker 12: You know, you guys are talking about the media availability
Speaker 12: and everything. The thing is is these kids, a lot
Speaker 12: of them, they have their social media, so they're they're
Speaker 12: already out there, and and and the athletic departments or
Speaker 12: the coaching staffs they're still afraid of these kids. And
Speaker 12: these kids already know what's gone on on. You know,
Speaker 12: things happen, things have been happening, like during their high
Speaker 12: school days and somebody got embarrassed or this or that.
Speaker 12: And I think a lot of these kids there are
Speaker 12: they're savvy, and like you just said, they take it
Speaker 12: away from them. And yet the coaches always say we're
Speaker 12: looking out for the best for these kids. Sure, well
Speaker 12: you're not because you're not teaching them exactly.
Speaker 3: You're exactly what we're talking about right now.
Speaker 12: You know, if you never taught your kids how to
Speaker 12: ride a bike, you were just inviting them to have
Speaker 12: a disaster later on.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 12: I mean, And that's and that's such a big part
Speaker 12: of it. And you know, you can't tell these coaches
Speaker 12: that you know, they're they're walking on eggshells any at everything.
Speaker 12: They're jumping at every shadow there is well with having
Speaker 12: to re recruit and everything else.
Speaker 1: Right, no question, let me say this done and you
Speaker 1: play are going to be surprised by this.
Speaker 3: And Jane knows this.
Speaker 1: A lot of the coaches and I'm not just here,
Speaker 1: are control freaks total and they more than ever.
Speaker 12: Yes, well that's why I said back in the day,
Speaker 12: there was no way the head coach didn't know what
Speaker 12: was going on.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 12: There's no way that these coaches don't know those those
Speaker 12: type you know, bad things that are happening in their program.
Speaker 12: They they there's no way that they don't know these things.
Speaker 12: And the thing is is if they think that they're
Speaker 12: shielding these kids, they're trying to shield themselves from for
Speaker 12: having less headaches. I'm saying, I'm guessing.
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, let me let me ask you. But they're not.
Speaker 12: They're not helping their program.
Speaker 1: Now, so done, I don't know your history of whatever.
Speaker 1: Do you have kids? Do you have Okay, so you
Speaker 1: have kids, and I don't want to ask you. Just
Speaker 1: Jay has kids. I have kids. Luckily, my kids are
Speaker 1: good kids. Jay's kids are good kids. I'm sure yours
Speaker 1: are too. But you're the ad right now. Now, now
Speaker 1: you have five hundred and fifty kids, right when you
Speaker 1: go to sleep, How comfortable are you waking up the
Speaker 1: next day and.
Speaker 4: Thinking, I hope nothing? What do you do five hundred
Speaker 4: and not that many? Yeah, of course you do. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but you I had three kids and.
Speaker 3: I go to bed.
Speaker 1: Now you might say you're thinking, Okay, I'm gonna trust
Speaker 1: these guys are making good decisions. Yeah, but you have
Speaker 1: to let them make decisions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. You have to let them make mistakes.
Speaker 12: And you have to tell them, Like I told my boys,
Speaker 12: because I have two boys, I told them, you know,
Speaker 12: when you leave the house, you're making the decision to
Speaker 12: finish that trip to school. Once they hit like junior high,
Speaker 12: I was like, hey, you're the one making that decision. Yeah,
Speaker 12: but you're gonna have to live with the decision you make.
Speaker 12: So if you go to school, you do the things
Speaker 12: you're supposed to do, things are good at the house,
Speaker 12: you get things whatever. But if you don't, then the
Speaker 12: opposite's going to happen. So you you, you have to
Speaker 12: trust these kids, and you have to, you know, put
Speaker 12: the repercussions out there, teach them, you know, teach them
Speaker 12: what's right, what's wrong, what they what they can do,
Speaker 12: what they shouldn't do, and they're gonna make their own decisions.
Speaker 3: Sure, because they do.
Speaker 1: In the time and the time that I covered the
Speaker 1: Loop for twenty five years, there's only one maybe two,
Speaker 1: And I would even know what the two is of
Speaker 1: things that you said, oh god, and it was Gilbert,
Speaker 1: because you never knew what the hell Gilbert was going
Speaker 1: to say, but that neede it good for us because
Speaker 1: you didn't know what he was going to say. But
Speaker 1: of all the students that came through, the players, the
Speaker 1: student athletes came, that was one dude. There's one dude.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't that bad. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's it's and they they were they
Speaker 4: were afraid of the you know, athletic departments and coaches
Speaker 4: are just afraid of their shadows when it comes to
Speaker 4: that good point.
Speaker 3: And that's what it was.
Speaker 12: And the thing nowadays, every every everything and every every
Speaker 12: body can be forgiven and if you make a mistake
Speaker 12: and on up to it, you know, at least I mean,
Speaker 12: in today's society, you're going to get credit for that. Yeah,
Speaker 12: I mean, you know, how can you blame the coaches nowadays?
Speaker 12: With players having their agents and handlers and all these things,
Speaker 12: and now it's legal. You can't put everything on the coach,
Speaker 12: the old the lack of institutional control because truly they
Speaker 12: don't have that because they can't even control their own roster.
Speaker 3: Know, you're right, exactly, no, you're exactly right.
Speaker 12: So that's not even a that's not even a real
Speaker 12: thing that that a coach, if he got put in
Speaker 12: a bad situation, can argue and go, look all these
Speaker 12: things have been taken out of my hands already.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, talk to their agent.
Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, don't talk to me. Talk to the agent.
Speaker 12: Go talk to them, and then come back to me
Speaker 12: and tell me what you find out.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the problem two that I have. And not
Speaker 1: that it's a problem because I don't have to live
Speaker 1: with it. We just write about it and talk about it.
Speaker 1: Is your coach and you have your your star quarterback,
Speaker 1: you start running back whomever, and you've got to be
Speaker 1: play nice with them because in a month, a two
Speaker 1: or whatever he could be you could just if I
Speaker 1: didn't like the way he talked to me like this,
Speaker 1: YadA YadA, and I'm gone, yep, yep, yeah.
Speaker 12: I mean it just seems like like a that note,
Speaker 12: you know, promoting your program and making your guys available
Speaker 12: and actually probably you know, maybe pushing some We gotta
Speaker 12: go ideo people to take it easy on them. But anyway, guys,
Speaker 12: have a good one.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks Sun for the call.
Speaker 1: We got to another call, don't you on the air
Speaker 1: and on the ball, who's this reunited? And hey, does
Speaker 1: your buss know you're on the phone. Radio does your
Speaker 1: does your buss know you're on the phone.
Speaker 10: I'm driving home, so maybe you don't get pulled over
Speaker 10: while I'm multi tased.
Speaker 3: But this old guy radio is is cool. But you
Speaker 3: can't like like he said, he made an eloquent.
Speaker 10: Point, there's a complete lack of institutional control nowadays with
Speaker 10: everybody in these your door senders with doubt, Dion Sanders.
Speaker 3: Of course she wouldn't be probably a started quarterback.
Speaker 10: But do you think about the sense of entitlement and
Speaker 10: everything that a coach would have to deal with that had.
Speaker 3: To be his father in his college.
Speaker 10: Or think about the Florida A d in the hernn
Speaker 10: this days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, good, No, No, you're you're right, I mean,
Speaker 1: come out.
Speaker 3: How difficult would that have been? Yeah? Yeah, no, you know.
Speaker 4: It's it's just because, like like everything else, Mike, we
Speaker 4: it's you know, we were just not letting kids, young
Speaker 4: people do things because we're afraid of what they might do. Sure, right,
Speaker 4: so often and we don't trust them to, you know,
Speaker 4: to make decisions and fall down and get back up
Speaker 4: in those If.
Speaker 1: I were this and you were the student athlete, you know,
Speaker 1: what you were doing at eighteen nineteen twenty years old. Right,
Speaker 1: those days are gone and people now know exactly right.
Speaker 13: Smart cameras around and the trial in there is all part.
Speaker 3: Of growing up.
Speaker 10: I'm going to get until I was thirty seven, still
Speaker 10: still learning, still learning, So like.
Speaker 13: Like for instance, and I remember talking about this with
Speaker 13: Steve about the whole Bobby hur Lead incident, getting the
Speaker 13: guys off the court and not shaking hands.
Speaker 3: They have to shake.
Speaker 10: Hands because the thing was the fally, the fall, and
Speaker 10: then you gotta be accountable for what you did because
Speaker 10: you're raising student athletes like students. You're raising young men.
Speaker 10: Excuse me, they're not they're professional. You're raising young men
Speaker 10: because still you're raising people to be in society. That's
Speaker 10: a part of school and that's in quotation marks. But
Speaker 10: everything with this nil and these players getting paid, it's
Speaker 10: just like again, I hate to say the same thing.
Speaker 10: A lack of institutional control and a lack of control
Speaker 10: period and that contradicts everything that you just said. But
Speaker 10: the good coach there could show freaks, but they ain't
Speaker 10: got that control.
Speaker 3: Do you imagine Bill Belichick how long he's gonna last?
Speaker 10: How much like like kids talking to the media or
Speaker 10: keeping it in the house.
Speaker 3: And the Patriot way that's out the dang window.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wait till exactly, wait till he finds out, you know,
Speaker 4: when when his eighteen year old quarterback is shooting his
Speaker 4: mouth off on social media, he didn't handle that.
Speaker 1: He doesn't even have control in his own little territory.
Speaker 3: But that's four. I know what you guys, well, what
Speaker 3: are you single? What's happily married? But if you think
Speaker 3: about it, I get a call there.
Speaker 1: But gee, wow, wait wait, you didn't say I'm single.
Speaker 1: I'm happily single, sir, happily.
Speaker 10: He has a secum bill.
Speaker 1: I can't translate on this show, but I get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was nothing.
Speaker 1: I didn't hit the buttons. Good, No, thank you, Mike.
Speaker 1: Good to hear from you, Mike A.
Speaker 10: Tonight cowboy, cowboy, your podcast, tonight YouTube.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I gotta get that in cowboys. What still a disaster
Speaker 1: they are and they will continue to be. Yes, what
Speaker 1: the hell did you say? No, no entitlement and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. But I kind of just want to say,
Speaker 1: if you want money or to prove the nil, let
Speaker 1: them tell their story. Let us tell their story.
Speaker 3: Let us tell their story. Yeah, because.
Speaker 4: You can't just mis mistrust everybody, right, because there's three
Speaker 4: or four bad apples.
Speaker 3: Everybody's a bad apple.
Speaker 4: And and you know, guys like Again, guys like Justin,
Speaker 4: guys like Mike lev guys like uh, you know, Bruce,
Speaker 4: Bruce and everybody you go, they just want to they
Speaker 4: just want to do their.
Speaker 3: Jobs and tell their stories. You know, did you see
Speaker 3: what's going on? Well, the start is the start.
Speaker 1: You worked at the Star for a while many years ago,
Speaker 1: I wre with the Citizen. There's only like three four
Speaker 1: people there in the sports department. Yeah, there's four people
Speaker 1: on the staff here.
Speaker 3: That's not a knock. It's just the way the businesses.
Speaker 4: And it's the way the businesses, you know, the you know,
Speaker 4: the other work that I'm doing, you know, trying trying
Speaker 4: to get something into the newspaper today. It's impossible, is
Speaker 4: a story? Yeah, any story? You know, you just can't.
Speaker 4: I mean you don't have to write it. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: it's you can't. It's hard. Yeah, it's really hard, or
Speaker 4: on or on television.
Speaker 1: Well, because everything's been cut and everything's just not.
Speaker 4: Darned people around to go do that stuff. You know,
Speaker 4: you go through you know, you go through the newspaper
Speaker 4: and except for a handful of stories, everything's in you know,
Speaker 4: some sort of national wires.
Speaker 1: Look at sports now on TV. Not to exclude newspapers
Speaker 1: every I think most of them have one person sports sports.
Speaker 4: Ye who have to have a couple of days off,
Speaker 4: So you've got a couple of days where you know
Speaker 4: the news side is doing that is doing your sports
Speaker 4: for the day, or they don't do sports. Right, you're
Speaker 4: depressing me, Steve. You bring me down, man, good things.
Speaker 4: You're at the end of your road?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am. Does that mean this crap anymore? You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. You're right, I know.
Speaker 4: But you know, I've you know, I've got a kid
Speaker 4: who's two kids actually, who's sort of in the you know,
Speaker 4: communication side of well that adds in marketing, so that
Speaker 4: you know, that's a little different.
Speaker 3: He's you know, at the U of A.
Speaker 4: He's in the marketing and athletic department where they're trying
Speaker 4: to but do what we've been talking about, connect to
Speaker 4: the fans.
Speaker 3: Sure have you had this discussion with him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, without selling him out or I'm sure he
Speaker 1: agrees he's.
Speaker 4: Done totally, totally it's just and and you know, I
Speaker 4: can tell that they're trying to do things right, but
Speaker 4: they're trying to do things because they need to sell tickets.
Speaker 1: Right, right, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 3: It is, you know.
Speaker 4: But you know, my daughter's in in in sports information
Speaker 4: at the San Diego City that's like department, you know,
Speaker 4: and they're they're out there just doing what they can,
Speaker 4: putting stories out.
Speaker 3: But you know, San die State doesn't come and cover
Speaker 3: the lacrosse team.
Speaker 4: I mean, the San Diegre Union Tribune doesn't come and
Speaker 4: cover the lacrosse team or you know, the softball team
Speaker 4: or whatever. Basketball and football, and that's what you get.
Speaker 4: They'll cover it when it's bad news.
Speaker 1: But the thing and it's a different market, obviously there's
Speaker 1: more to cover there. But here, man, it's a tough time.
Speaker 1: And I came here in eighty seven, totally different.
Speaker 3: You started back in the mid eighties too.
Speaker 1: So it's just saying you when your team was, when
Speaker 1: your team was in season, you had something in the
Speaker 1: paper every day, every single and sometimes you know why
Speaker 1: you're a part of it because I knew you would.
Speaker 1: You did it because I you know I would, right
Speaker 1: except for Sunday, like you I was well aware there's
Speaker 1: a competition.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had fun. I remember drinking with you on
Speaker 4: the coach. Well, but on the on the road in Oregon, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I remember the electric station.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Goods were the issue when you they got in their fights.
Speaker 4: Yes, but you know, we were friendly, but we could
Speaker 4: and because of that, people got stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was part of the charm of the
Speaker 1: business and people who know, we know that.
Speaker 3: I love that we've lost it. He got lost somewhere.
Speaker 1: Well, no, no papers and newspaper and Dave. When Dave
Speaker 1: comes in here, he talks about I used to worry
Speaker 1: when I have to read the Citizen or read the Star,
Speaker 1: and then I don't have to go chase it too,
Speaker 1: because everybody was kind of like, you know, what they do?
Speaker 3: What did we do? What did they do?
Speaker 4: But I mean, for example, okay, we were in Kansas
Speaker 4: City for the UFA's Final four, all right, the night
Speaker 4: between games or take it back. This might have been
Speaker 4: the night before the games. But we were out out
Speaker 4: at the bars with It was me, it was Greg Hanson,
Speaker 4: it was Bob Young who worked for the Republic, Kevin
Speaker 4: McCabe who was at at the k well d I
Speaker 4: think Dave Silver was there. We were all together, we
Speaker 4: were we competed the hell out of it, but then
Speaker 4: we went out socially and we had a good time
Speaker 4: with each other, and we had a great time, and
Speaker 4: we loved that competition.
Speaker 3: I'm true. Later a night of your thinks. So what
Speaker 3: did you do today? What was your story for?
Speaker 4: You know, you wanted to beat the hell out of them,
Speaker 4: but that didn't mean you had to be a dirt.
Speaker 1: So listener, Bill sends me this note, asked you about
Speaker 1: writing with me?
Speaker 3: And oh, he said he had ghosted him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't do I can't do it, Bill, I
Speaker 4: got that got stuff going on that weekend. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 4: sorry I ghosted you. Man, My bad, My bad, already he.
Speaker 1: Did November twenty second. I'm busy that.
Speaker 3: I'm busy.
Speaker 4: I'm busy on the twenty second. Now, I've got stuff
Speaker 4: going on. I've had to move up my Vegas trip
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks because I got some much stuff
Speaker 4: going on. What did you see November third? What are
Speaker 4: you gonna do November third? I don't have anything November.
Speaker 3: There you placed Florida.
Speaker 4: He's on Florida in Vegas, right, we're going to be
Speaker 4: there the next weekend.
Speaker 1: So you're not going you gotta go to the third
Speaker 1: end of ten. Well, they have the right to, they
Speaker 1: have the the Formula one thing.
Speaker 4: I think that's the weekend of the twenty second.
Speaker 3: Oh really didn't really back, okay, and I take back.
Speaker 3: It's a weekend before that fifteenth. Yeah, I think I
Speaker 3: think that's uh okay, I'm not.
Speaker 4: Sure we're we're we're going more Vegas the weekend before
Speaker 4: Formula fifteen. Anyways, all right, well so I you know,
Speaker 4: I know that's a long discussion about about that, but
Speaker 4: it's the two old guys. Get off my long guys.
Speaker 4: But you know what, it was a better day. It
Speaker 4: was a more fun day. I think fans had more
Speaker 4: connection to their athletes and their sports and not become
Speaker 4: just who wins the game and who does it and
Speaker 4: if you don't win, you suck and we don't want
Speaker 4: to talk to you.
Speaker 3: Sure, no, I get I get it.
Speaker 1: If you had ten of us out there, ten of
Speaker 1: us local media guys, and we had them in front
Speaker 1: of the Desirays and the people there, it'd be everybody
Speaker 1: would have this conversation and say, this would be a
Speaker 1: beneficial to you and tell us yes, and it'll be
Speaker 1: very easy to.
Speaker 4: Do, right, it would be really easy to do and
Speaker 4: just just you know, let these guys be it's not
Speaker 4: it's not it's really not.
Speaker 1: And you'd have different different takes on different people.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well yeah, I mean, again, what what do we
Speaker 3: know about the players on the UVA football team? Very little.
Speaker 4: The part of the player that we know the most
Speaker 4: about is no healthy and he's out in the community,
Speaker 4: he's out doing stuff.
Speaker 3: He's got TV commercials.
Speaker 4: Sure, but and you know we've had you know, you've
Speaker 4: had reporters talk to his family and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Name another player who's gotten that kind of none and
Speaker 4: he used to be able to do that.
Speaker 3: With a bunch of players, even Caleb.
Speaker 1: Caleb, there was the athletic We had had her on
Speaker 1: the show based in Oregon, very very charming woman who
Speaker 1: wrote the story on Caleb. Did you read that story
Speaker 1: just about how he's kind of changed his style and
Speaker 1: unless year, no one here has written that story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they have the opportunity to sit down with them
Speaker 1: for Yeah, that's all weird.
Speaker 4: I was getting, well, I was getting to that story
Speaker 4: about Dane. Well, you know the guy jumps in my car. Yeah,
Speaker 4: all right, and I drive him back to you know,
Speaker 4: back Michael, which I later found out was an NCAA violation,
Speaker 4: you know, And then we just sat in my car.
Speaker 4: He's on his football pads and holding his helmet. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And we sat in my car and talked for about
Speaker 4: twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: It's funny because it was a mile, right, not even
Speaker 1: a mile to take it.
Speaker 4: Well, the thing was that I didn't want to walk
Speaker 4: back to McHale then have to walk back and get
Speaker 4: my car.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, but.
Speaker 4: And you only drove a right, Yeah, but he jumped
Speaker 4: in the car and I had a twenty minute conversation
Speaker 4: with him.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: And I had and I had a good piece, a
Speaker 4: good interview for that weekend. And and you know, and
Speaker 4: I just remember having those with you know, with guys
Speaker 4: like Darryl Lewis Parker, remember Glenn Parker, John Fien Our
Speaker 4: great house, remember our great house.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know.
Speaker 1: Guys you asked you we get them on the phone
Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah, lamont love it.
Speaker 4: You know all those guys that you know, we would
Speaker 4: get a chance to talk to and get people to
Speaker 4: you know, we did the second year that I covered football.
Speaker 4: Our editor said, I want a story about them that
Speaker 4: doesn't talk about football. Each week, I had to go
Speaker 4: interview with somebody and I mean we had to mention
Speaker 4: who they weren't talk about. But you try to get
Speaker 4: them to talk about something, what they do off the field,
Speaker 4: what's you know, what's meaningful to them?
Speaker 3: What's it?
Speaker 4: And I thought it was a hard It was a
Speaker 4: hard story to do every week because trying to draw
Speaker 4: these guys out to talk about something other than football
Speaker 4: was hard.
Speaker 1: It was it was the Conics and the Twins.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Ronnie Gil and Derek Hill and all
Speaker 4: those guys, and and you would you know, trying but
Speaker 4: it was challenging to me to try and get the
Speaker 4: non football side of these guys.
Speaker 1: Well, let me give you here's the here's one of
Speaker 1: the issues, the bad things. The alligator story. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you heard the Jack mcgrider alligator story, because then you're
Speaker 1: trusting that they're telling you the truth. Well, I had
Speaker 1: I had one of those. Anthony Smith. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Anthony Smith told me this whole story about how he
Speaker 1: was in the backseat of a car and his friend
Speaker 1: got shot and all this stuff, and he's seen some
Speaker 1: bad things and he was very passionate and emotional about it.
Speaker 1: And I told this story and it was it was
Speaker 1: gripping that he grew up in this place and he
Speaker 1: was lucky to be alive.
Speaker 3: YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 4: And then the Republic, Bob Young did the story basically
Speaker 4: the same story at the Republic. Maybe was talking to
Speaker 4: it a different pop Young. I can't remember his name.
Speaker 4: He was an old guy. No, not Lee Chappel.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he passed away.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, Bob Eager, Okay, Bob Eager does the story
Speaker 4: and there was more to the story, so he embellished it.
Speaker 4: So then he gets drafted in the first round. Okay,
Speaker 4: and I'm and I'm in I'm in the office. The
Speaker 4: draft used me on the weekend, so I'm in the
Speaker 4: office because I gotta do the Anthony Smith getting drafted,
Speaker 4: Anthony Smith and Kevin Chris Singleton got drafted. Peter King
Speaker 4: calls me and says, you know, I interviewed Anthony Smith
Speaker 4: and he told me all this stuff he said, didn't
Speaker 4: he said? And I said, well, I'll just tell you
Speaker 4: Peter that and he told me there was more to
Speaker 4: the story. I said, Peter, I'm telling you. I'm getting
Speaker 4: I'm thinking he's making it up. Well, then it comes
Speaker 4: out Peter King does the story. But then Anthony Smith
Speaker 4: comes out and says none of it was true, he said,
Speaker 4: And he said.
Speaker 3: Then why did you do the story? Why did you
Speaker 3: say all that?
Speaker 4: He said, because I wanted to get attention on my
Speaker 4: self so I could get drafted. He said, So you
Speaker 4: thought getting an attention that you were in the back
Speaker 4: seat of a car where somebody got killed was a
Speaker 4: good attention to give to NFL scouts, you know. So
Speaker 4: I did that story and he said, he said, I
Speaker 4: had to. I had to tell that story because Chris
Speaker 4: Singleton was getting all the attention, so I had to
Speaker 4: get some attention on myself. So he made this stuff up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Chris went eight and he went eleven. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're both yeah, yeah, yeah, remember that.
Speaker 3: I remember.
Speaker 4: So that stuff happens, you know. So I don't know,
Speaker 4: But again, it was an isolated thing. It shouldn't have.
Speaker 4: I didn't feel like, Okay, every football player I talked
Speaker 4: to from now on is gonna lie to me. I
Speaker 4: just thought that was Anthony Smith. You know, I got
Speaker 4: taken for a ride on him. That's the way it happened.
Speaker 4: Did that happen sometimes?
Speaker 3: Sure does.
Speaker 1: Okay, we got to go right. Yeah, thank you Kobe
Speaker 1: for thank you.
Speaker 3: J for coming on. Thanks for having me. Man, this
Speaker 3: is fun again.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, we'll get you every now and again.
Speaker 4: Dodger's up one nothing, Okay, we'll sleep on this. You
Speaker 4: got to get the Dodge reported.
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks to everybody. Can see you guys tomorrow.