1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Since that time of year again where the Matthew Shepherd 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:10,080 story is being retold, not the true story, but the story, 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,960 the myth. It's important. It's funny because people admit it's 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,320 a myth and then still say it's important that we 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,800 tell the myth, and they accuse us of a false gospel, 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,960 accuse Christians of that. So how does the Matthew Shepherd 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,600 myth help same sex attracted people. We'll talk about this 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,799 with the help of Bulwark Capital Management at Know Your 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,240 Risk podcast dot com and with God Almighty. 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,799 Speaker 2: The Todd Herman Show is one disapproved by big pharma 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:51,280 technocrats and tyrants everywhere from the high mountains of Free America. 12 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:58,119 Here's the Emerald City exime Todd Herman. 13 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: Today is the day the Lord has made in these 14 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,760 the times through which God has decided we shall live. 15 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,799 Where were you? Do you remember when you heard about 16 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,840 what was done to Matthew Shepherd and how horrific it was. 17 00:01:16,519 --> 00:01:21,319 I remember hearing about it and just being beside myself 18 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,120 with grief, and I still am. It's a very sad story. 19 00:01:26,239 --> 00:01:30,519 But this is from one of the media coverages of 20 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,200 this have came from Vanity Fair on their site now 21 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,840 they have their old print Meg and it's now an images. 22 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,920 So there's an image, of course of a half necked girl. 23 00:01:41,239 --> 00:01:43,120 Nothing to do with me. That's just the image that 24 00:01:43,159 --> 00:01:46,040 came up. Sorry for that. The article is called the 25 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:48,560 Crucifixion of Matthew Shepherd. It just gives you a look 26 00:01:48,599 --> 00:01:53,879 back into what Vanity Fair was and continues to be. 27 00:01:53,959 --> 00:02:00,480 The Crucifixion of Matthew Shepherd Melanie Melanie Thurnstrom, tied to 28 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:03,879 a wooden fence, tortured, left to die, twenty one year 29 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,519 old Matthew Shepard, a bright, sensitive freshman at the University 30 00:02:06,519 --> 00:02:09,800 of Wyoming, has become a national symbol of violence against gays. 31 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:13,439 It's killers, Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson, products of a 32 00:02:13,479 --> 00:02:16,560 grim world of drugs, alcohol, broken homes, and twisted dreams, 33 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,319 have been charged with first degree murder, and the ton 34 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,120 of Larimrie, home to all three stands, revealed as an 35 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,759 American paradox, god fearing friendly place that harbors deep and 36 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:31,840 lingering prejudice. Melanie Thurnstrom explores the hidden topography of a killing. 37 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,159 I don't tell me. I could do an NPR voice 38 00:02:35,159 --> 00:02:37,039 over coming that was okay, I'd have to be a 39 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:42,840 little bit more emotionless though. Yeah, it's horrific because he 40 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,240 was killed for being the same sex attracted dude in 41 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:52,080 a red neck land. That's the myth. Now, the reality 42 00:02:52,199 --> 00:02:58,240 is not any better. Doesn't make it a better killing. 43 00:02:58,319 --> 00:03:01,719 It can't be made better. It was murder, murder of 44 00:03:01,719 --> 00:03:05,240 a young guy, and yeah, it's true he had been 45 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,759 in college at a time when we were putting together 46 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,800 this show. This morning, God reminded me that we can 47 00:03:13,879 --> 00:03:16,159 look at this through the construct of NPR. Here I 48 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,680 was joking about doing the NPR delivery. We can look 49 00:03:19,719 --> 00:03:23,039 at this through the construct of NPR. And incidentally, this 50 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,800 miss still persists. I was just looking at this online 51 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,199 and see that there are still people propagating this myth, 52 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,080 and those tweets are getting retweeted, and the tiktoks are 53 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,800 getting reticked and retalked. So, how does this help same 54 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:43,680 sex attracted people? The advocate thinks this helps same sex 55 00:03:43,719 --> 00:03:47,199 attracted people. They admit that we'll get to that that 56 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,919 they admit it's all a myth, but it's a really 57 00:03:49,919 --> 00:03:54,159 important myth. How does it help same sex attracted people 58 00:03:54,199 --> 00:03:58,400 to believe that if they go to Larrymie Wyoming, they're 59 00:03:58,439 --> 00:04:04,400 going to end up unalived because they are same sex attracted. 60 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,879 How does that help healing? How does it help to 61 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:16,759 ignore the other pathologies which incidentally, incidentally, and we're not 62 00:04:16,759 --> 00:04:19,519 supposed to say this, We're never supposed to say this. 63 00:04:21,319 --> 00:04:26,720 There's a lot of pathologies that often predate the arrival 64 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:31,040 at being same sex attracted. There's the pathologies of today 65 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,000 where young girls are being exposed to young men and 66 00:04:36,079 --> 00:04:40,000 boys who have grown up believing that part of the 67 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,920 great joy of joining in sexual union is choking your 68 00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:48,360 partner out with both hands while she does things to 69 00:04:48,439 --> 00:04:54,439 you because women like that. And they're young girls whose 70 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,759 first sexual experience involves being choked. What's wrong? What's wrong? 71 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,160 The women on my phone like it when they're choked. 72 00:05:04,079 --> 00:05:06,800 And suddenly you have girls saying, you know what, I think? 73 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:15,079 I am same sex attracted. So these pathologies, why is 74 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,279 it helpful to same sex attracted people to ignore that 75 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,959 these pathologies are occurring, or to society, or to people 76 00:05:22,959 --> 00:05:29,800 who would otherwise be opposite sex attracted and fruitful and 77 00:05:29,879 --> 00:05:35,519 multiplying and following God's plan for marriage. Perhaps perhaps it 78 00:05:35,519 --> 00:05:37,759 can be same sex attracted and be way outside of 79 00:05:37,759 --> 00:05:42,279 God's plan and you could be married in God's plan 80 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,319 and then being able to be fruitful in a marital 81 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,519 union working in the design of God. So how does 82 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,319 it help the Matthew Shepherd myth? How does it help 83 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,199 same sex attracted people? Maybe Catherine Marr, the CEO of 84 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,879 and PR could help us with this in a second. 85 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,199 How does it help you for your bank to give 86 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,399 you a business loan and give it to you for 87 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,519 your business and to tell you, congratulations, you have a 88 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,639 business line of credit and that business line of credit 89 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,000 has some superpowers that your individual line of credit doesn't. 90 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,839 And how does it help that they hide right there 91 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,519 in the small print that this is not a business loan. 92 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,879 This is a loan we gave you and we put 93 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:34,199 your business name on their credit card. But this is 94 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,000 a loan, and the leverage, the security of the loan 95 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:43,120 is your house, your retirement plan, your college shavings for 96 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:48,199 your kids, and your checking account. That's the collateral. Now 97 00:06:48,199 --> 00:06:49,759 you can say, wait a minute, that's not the case, 98 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,000 because I have the corporate veil, my business is a 99 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,720 separate entity. Nope, no, no, it's not. In many cases, 100 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,000 people have gone and talked with my friends at Visible 101 00:06:58,199 --> 00:07:00,959 their website is gobisible dot com. They've been five to 102 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,519 ten buddy who I had, a buddy who was fifteen 103 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,839 years in business, went and found out that he did 104 00:07:06,879 --> 00:07:09,759 not have the corporate veil. And they'll tell you that 105 00:07:09,839 --> 00:07:11,639 for free. They'll tell you if you have it or 106 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,120 not for free. Their website that you go to right 107 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,639 now is go bisible with a Z gobisible dot com 108 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,800 and the information is free. If they find out you 109 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,439 don't have it, they will fix it for you in 110 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,680 seven easy steps. And I suggest you just dive right 111 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,720 into that because the cosh reward ratio in this is 112 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,839 out of this world in favor of visible. It's go 113 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,240 bisible dot com. So this is NPR's Katherine mar You 114 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:38,240 remember this, and it helps us frame up the Matthew 115 00:07:38,279 --> 00:07:41,800 Shepherd myth that continues to propagate this Now what is 116 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:47,240 it twenty seven years twenty seven years after that young 117 00:07:47,319 --> 00:07:49,279 man met a really tragic ends. 118 00:07:49,519 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: One of the most significant differences critical from moving from 119 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:57,160 polarization to productivity is that the wikipedians who write these 120 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,120 articles aren't actually focused on finding the truth. They're working 121 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:03,879 for something that's a little bit more attainable, which is 122 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,879 the best of what we can know right now, and 123 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,399 after seven years there, I actually believe that they're onto 124 00:08:10,399 --> 00:08:14,959 something that for our most tricky disagreements, seeking the truth 125 00:08:15,439 --> 00:08:18,759 and seeking to convince others of the truth isn't necessarily 126 00:08:18,759 --> 00:08:22,759 the best place to start. In fact, I think our 127 00:08:22,839 --> 00:08:27,160 reverence for the truth might become might have become a 128 00:08:27,199 --> 00:08:30,079 bit of a distraction that is preventing us from finding 129 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,480 consensus and getting important things done. 130 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,799 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ said, I am the way the truth in 131 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,759 the life. No one comes to the Father but through me, 132 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:45,200 So the truth is a distraction I see now. Incidentally, 133 00:08:45,279 --> 00:08:48,240 part of the game people play when they do visionary things, 134 00:08:48,879 --> 00:08:50,799 and back in the day I got to do visionary 135 00:08:50,879 --> 00:08:53,519 stuff in tech. Part of the game you play is 136 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,039 you say something that's super provocative that way, and the 137 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,039 audience sits. They're like, oh my gosh, did she just 138 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,320 say a reverence for truth is a problem, And they're 139 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,360 sitting forward and can she possibly defend that? And oh 140 00:09:03,399 --> 00:09:06,720 my gosh, she's willing to break barriers and she's willing 141 00:09:06,799 --> 00:09:09,279 to say brave things, and yes, oh my gosh, she's 142 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,679 never thought of it that way. My mind is blown. 143 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,159 She was at Wikipedia at the time, which of course, 144 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,919 as you know, has been used from time to time 145 00:09:16,919 --> 00:09:19,000 as a stock pump and dump device. Did you know 146 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,840 that a friend of mine investigated this on behalf of 147 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,360 the guy who ran overstock dot com because they were 148 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,360 watching it happen a great proof of this, and he 149 00:09:29,399 --> 00:09:32,360 wrote an article about it, and that article got posted, 150 00:09:32,879 --> 00:09:35,879 and he'd been investigating in Wikipedia from his small town 151 00:09:35,919 --> 00:09:39,720 in Utah, investigating it and documenting the pump and dump. 152 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:41,960 He ended up in Forbes. He ended up going back 153 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,759 and getting interviewed on CNBC about this, and then Wikipedia 154 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:51,120 shut down access to Wikipedia for his entire town in Utah. 155 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:54,720 It was Bountiful. The entire town of Bountiful, Utah could 156 00:09:54,799 --> 00:09:59,039 not access Wikipedia because jud had written this article that 157 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,679 they never came back. Can suit them for they never 158 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:08,519 said it wasn't true. So in a pursuit of truth, 159 00:10:10,919 --> 00:10:15,159 it's in the way of getting things done. So when 160 00:10:15,159 --> 00:10:17,679 we get to the crucifixion of Matthew Shepherd, which of 161 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:23,840 course is provocative in of itself, he wasn't crucified. How 162 00:10:23,879 --> 00:10:29,639 does this serve same sex attracted people? There's the Matthew 163 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:35,440 Shepherd Foundation and it is still communicating and they're very 164 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,399 clever how they do this, The Matthew Shepherd Foundation. They're 165 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:41,799 very clever. This is a video they put out. This 166 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,399 is very clever. Watch very carefully, listened, very carefully. 167 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 4: The story of Matthew Shepherd didn't start in nineteen ninety eight. Matt, 168 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:53,960 as we called him, was born on December first, nineteen 169 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,840 seventy six, in Casper, Wyoming, living a pretty typical Wyoming life. 170 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,200 His family would later overseas, where he gained a love 171 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,039 of languages, travel, politics, and a close network of friends 172 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,840 from around the world, but his college career would eventually 173 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:11,840 bring him back home to Wyoming. 174 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,759 Speaker 5: On October seventh, nineteen ninety eight, Matt was brutally attacked, 175 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:24,200 tied to a fence, and left to die. Five days later. 176 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: Kay the image says, homophobia kills what does the voiceover. 177 00:11:30,919 --> 00:11:34,919 Speaker 5: Say, passed away at age twenty one. His life and 178 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,639 tragic death would forever change the way we talk about hate. 179 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,519 Inspired by their personal tragedy, his parents, Judy and Dennis, 180 00:11:46,879 --> 00:11:51,919 founded the Matthew Shepherd Foundation to support LGBTQ plus youth, 181 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,559 inadvertently becoming parental figures to thousands of queer people around 182 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,720 the world while giving the community of voice that would 183 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,120 truly change hearts and minds. Their commitment to erase hate 184 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,799 led to over fourteen hundred appearances in twenty four countries, 185 00:12:10,279 --> 00:12:14,240 a collection of resources to support legacy works inspired by 186 00:12:14,279 --> 00:12:18,679 Matt's story, the country's first federal hate crimes legislation to 187 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:24,639 include sexual orientation and gender identity, and the creation of 188 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,759 one of the most authentic ally voices of our time, 189 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:29,759 Judy Shepherd. 190 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:39,799 Speaker 1: It's really clever because only the image says homophobia kills 191 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,799 and time. In that video do they say that Matthew 192 00:12:44,919 --> 00:12:48,759 was killed because he was same sex attracted. But what 193 00:12:48,799 --> 00:12:51,840 would you think if you were watching my video? That's 194 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,879 what happened, right? How is this helpful? I would really 195 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:05,000 be curious to know from his parents what happened. I mean, 196 00:13:05,039 --> 00:13:10,360 it sounds almost idyllic. He got to travel the worlds, 197 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:16,799 he came back to his hometown to pursue college. What happened, Oh, 198 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,960 he was just out at a bar and he happened 199 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,879 to mention his same sex attracted and a couple of 200 00:13:21,919 --> 00:13:25,000 rednecks pulled him out of the bar and tied him 201 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,600 to a fence posts and beat him and left him 202 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,039 there to freeze to death. That's what happened, and nothing 203 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,879 went wrong with matt He was never anything was wrong 204 00:13:33,919 --> 00:13:39,919 with him. That's really tragic that that never happened. It's 205 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:46,840 tragic that what happened happened. I reflect on this outside 206 00:13:46,879 --> 00:13:50,159 of the Matthew Shepherd affair, and I reflect on it 207 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,480 in terms of in vitro fertilization and same sex attracted 208 00:13:54,519 --> 00:13:59,080 men purchasing babies, and I do mean purchasing them. And 209 00:13:59,159 --> 00:14:01,399 to reflect on the fact that if you track the 210 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,759 outcomes of kids who grow up in same sex attracted 211 00:14:05,799 --> 00:14:11,000 parented homes to men to women, the outcomes are profoundly 212 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,360 less advantageous, less good than kids who grow up in 213 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:21,000 opposite sex attracted homes. Profoundly so. And you would think, 214 00:14:21,039 --> 00:14:24,159 I would think that we would want to speak into 215 00:14:24,159 --> 00:14:26,440 the lives of same sex attracted people to say, hey, 216 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,639 you know what, See it's in your heart that you 217 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:34,200 want to have kids, you want to have some, and 218 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,000 you're willing to purchase one or two or three or four. 219 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:45,600 Do you want to have the heartache of knowing that 220 00:14:45,639 --> 00:14:53,759 those outcomes are statistically speaking, never as good as opposite 221 00:14:53,799 --> 00:14:56,919 sex attracted homes. I shouldn't say never, but statistically speaking, 222 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:03,559 far less likely to be happy, and you want them 223 00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:06,759 informed of that, because if you've ever been a parent, 224 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,240 and I am, and I have folks my age who 225 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,559 are parents, have kids who are much older, further into adulthood. 226 00:15:15,039 --> 00:15:17,960 The pain your kids go through it cuts you in 227 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,360 unique ways. It harms you in unique ways. It can 228 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,320 suck from you life energy and unique ways. And I 229 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,840 would think I would want to tell them that. And 230 00:15:30,039 --> 00:15:34,720 it's easy as a parent to look at dark times 231 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,720 in your kid's life and to feel like you did that. 232 00:15:37,159 --> 00:15:39,960 It's much much better to step back and look at 233 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,039 the changes, like in the case of our daughter. Dear God, 234 00:15:44,279 --> 00:15:46,960 thank you, Dear God, Thank you for giving my wife 235 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,240 the diligence and the intelligence and the focus and the 236 00:15:51,279 --> 00:15:55,840 willings to sacrifice everything. Thank you for letting us see 237 00:15:55,879 --> 00:15:59,320 what happens when that when we abide. Gosh, just bless you, 238 00:15:59,559 --> 00:16:02,480 bless you. So those are great moments that everybody hopes 239 00:16:02,519 --> 00:16:06,720 to have, seeing your kid come into themselves. And it's 240 00:16:06,759 --> 00:16:09,039 also easy to say, yeah, but it didn't have to 241 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,480 have the dark time. So wrapped up in the lie 242 00:16:13,519 --> 00:16:16,559 about Matthew Shepherd, of course, is this lie about same 243 00:16:16,559 --> 00:16:20,639 sex attracted men purchasing babies in bulk. That that's brave 244 00:16:20,679 --> 00:16:23,360 and it's stunning, and the kids are going to have 245 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:27,000 good homes, and no one's abusing that system. No one, 246 00:16:27,039 --> 00:16:30,039 for instance, is taking that system and abusing it to 247 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:35,320 purchase kids to then use as sexual objects for themselves 248 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,720 and for sale, when in fact that's happened probably fourteen 249 00:16:38,799 --> 00:16:43,960 times we know about. Some of it's very mechanical, as 250 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:49,600 in purchasing I think six babies at once, with the 251 00:16:49,639 --> 00:16:52,159 design and the full purpose of doing that to them. 252 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,960 How does it help same sex attracted people to not 253 00:16:57,039 --> 00:17:02,720 tell that part of the purchasing a baby's story. How 254 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,960 does it help same sex attracted people to divorce things 255 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:13,519 like sexual assault that can turn people towards same sex attraction, 256 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,319 towards gender defiance, towards gender confusion. How does it help 257 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,000 them to hide these pathologies to ought to refuse to 258 00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:24,960 offer them. Do you know sometimes this is a trauma response? 259 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:30,119 Are you sure this is not a trauma response? Well, 260 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:35,400 because this myth is so vitally important, as the advocate's 261 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,400 about to explain, I'll show you here a tweet in 262 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,759 a second that got a huge bit of circulation on 263 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:45,079 the anniversary of the death or at least the discovery 264 00:17:45,079 --> 00:17:48,400 of Matthew Shepherd out there right back up to the 265 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,920 Atlantic article with the softcore porn in it, and to me, 266 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:58,839 that's also fascinating. We have a sexual pathology that they're 267 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,839 saying was respond before Matthew Shepherd's death, and on the 268 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:08,279 reverse page they're selling clothing with an anorexic looking sexually 269 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:15,200 pathologized image. Vanity Fair can't see the side by side there, apparently. 270 00:18:17,319 --> 00:18:20,480 So there's pathologies that are real, right. There are things 271 00:18:20,519 --> 00:18:23,480 that you can look at physically, for instance, there are 272 00:18:23,519 --> 00:18:27,000 things that happen to people's bodies, say after a car wreck, 273 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,759 so that people get into a car wreck and the 274 00:18:29,839 --> 00:18:32,960 neck is never right, the back is never right. You 275 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,920 can see chiropractors, you can go and have that work 276 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,920 done consistently, but it's just never right and you just 277 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,480 never walk right. And then there are things that are 278 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,279 harder to believe but true. We just had a meeting 279 00:18:46,319 --> 00:18:48,920 the other night with one of my very close friends 280 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,640 who helps run our life group and praise God, her 281 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,640 reports on what her life is like after she went 282 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,480 down to Mexico with me and Zach Abraham and her 283 00:18:58,559 --> 00:19:01,960 husband's Mark. We're all down together, and she got this. 284 00:19:02,319 --> 00:19:05,359 She got the stem cells in her back, the stem 285 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,039 cells that come only from umbilical cords, and they are 286 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,400 the inverse of what's done in the States. Everything they 287 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,680 do down there, including these being donor based cells, so 288 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,680 they know the women, they know how healthy they are. 289 00:19:16,759 --> 00:19:19,559 They in fact track their health during pregnancy. They track 290 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,680 the health of the woman and the baby after pregnancy. 291 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,799 These stem cells are taken straight down from the hospital 292 00:19:25,839 --> 00:19:28,440 on a five minute walk to world class lab and 293 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,000 often the reject eighty percent of the stem cells they get. 294 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,880 And you say, well, how can they stay in business 295 00:19:33,519 --> 00:19:37,480 because they've undertaken the incredibly expensive process of culturing the 296 00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:41,240 stem cells that make it through their quality screening, meaning 297 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:43,680 they make more of them. So in the case of 298 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,960 our dear friend, when she got this stuff injected in back, 299 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,839 these stem cells, she'd been at a point where she 300 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,079 picked up her little baby, grandkids. She couldn't do anything 301 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,319 for us to the days. Pain was so intense. She 302 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,559 was in fatigue for the rest of the day. Now 303 00:19:56,599 --> 00:19:59,640 she's playing rounds of golf, eighteen holes at a time. 304 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:03,599 She's walking around all day, She's doing things like hiking, 305 00:20:03,599 --> 00:20:06,839 et cetera. And her back continues to heal. Doctors had 306 00:20:06,839 --> 00:20:09,799 told her, Yeah, we're flummox We don't know what to do. 307 00:20:10,079 --> 00:20:13,960 This can happen to people after car wrecks. Well, it 308 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,279 can be soft tissue damage that can be corrected to 309 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:22,200 the stem cells destroying the inflammation and then actually rebuilding cartilage, muscle, tendon, 310 00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:24,720 bonees happened in my back. It's not just backs, traumatic 311 00:20:24,759 --> 00:20:28,400 brain injury as well. They've had great success. Go check 312 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,160 them out at renew It's r E n ue dot Healthcare. 313 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,359 Please tell them you're part of the Todd Hermanshaw family. 314 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:38,920 Renew r E n ue dot Healthcare. This got tons 315 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:43,880 and tons of action on social media. The Angry Ostrich 316 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,920 twenty seventy years ago today, Matthew Sheppard died after being beaten, tortured, 317 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,960 tied to a fence, and left for dead, all for 318 00:20:50,039 --> 00:20:54,960 being gay. Reports from those who found Matthew indicated that 319 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,359 he had only two spots on his face not covered 320 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,519 in blood, the trail of tears that ran from his 321 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:07,200 eyes in memory. Matthew sheperd October twelve, nineteen ninety eight. Yeah, 322 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:13,559 it's terrible, and the truth is terrible, and the myth 323 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:20,880 is terrible. You shall not lie. You cannot bring Matthew 324 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:27,319 Shepherd back to life. Jesus conquered death. He brought himself 325 00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:31,039 back to life, conquered death. Those of us who accept 326 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,119 Jesus Christis or Savior, we speak it with our mouths. 327 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,720 We confess him with our mouths. We agree to be 328 00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:42,079 changed by him. We signify this through baptism, and we 329 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,960 take that first important step prior to all of that, 330 00:21:45,079 --> 00:21:51,279 or repenting of our sins, which involves true sorrow. Repent 331 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:56,440 except Jesus, signified through baptism, aregreing to be changed. Then 332 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,960 we conquer death through him He does for us. The 333 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,039 lies can't bring Matthew Shepard back to life, and the 334 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:07,400 truth can't. But the truth can do something the lies cannot. 335 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:20,119 The truth can. Pride check the organizations that make money 336 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:25,160 from this myth, I said, pride check, not fact check. 337 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:32,440 Why do they continue to tell the lie? Because they 338 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:39,039 would have to come back and say, we're wrong. But 339 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,920 we've been wrong so long that it's been this insane 340 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:49,079 thing to our advantage. I was watching a documentary a 341 00:22:49,079 --> 00:22:53,119 few years ago about guys who got caught in stolen 342 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:58,240 valor pretending to have served in the military, or pretend 343 00:22:58,279 --> 00:23:02,079 you do ben in combat, you know, inflating the role 344 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,119 they did play if they served. And they talked to 345 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:11,480 this guy and said, and he had a house filled 346 00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:18,880 with military memorabilia, weapons, patches, pictures. He had gone to 347 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,720 the extent of a searching through black and white military 348 00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:27,000 photos until he found a guy who looked a lot 349 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,519 like him when he was young. And he'd gone to 350 00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:35,000 the extent of getting these pictures and getting them made 351 00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:38,319 into something that looked like old photos, so even it 352 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:43,000 looked like photographic paper. And he had these things or film, 353 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,319 had these on his wall in his office, and he 354 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,880 had those back on a bookcase that he only showed 355 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:54,359 his good friends. And they talked to him and said, 356 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,519 you've been caught, You've been shamed. This was prior to 357 00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:07,480 their being against this. How did it start? And he 358 00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:12,440 said that he was out to dinner with a couple 359 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,799 of friends and the waitress came along and said, hey, 360 00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:19,440 are either of you service members? We give a discount? 361 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:24,279 He said, yeah, I served. Oh, okay, where you go 362 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,200 a should discount? And he didn't know these guys, well, oh, 363 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:33,720 we're to surf, and the story began. So these are 364 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:36,880 some colleagues from work and first time they really hung 365 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,200 out together. Goes to work the next day, his boss 366 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,440 come says, hey, I didn't know your vet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 367 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,799 you know. I don't like I don't like talking about it. 368 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,920 Oh okay, well we know we have a veterans program. 369 00:24:49,039 --> 00:24:51,519 Yet you know what, I don't like those things. You know, 370 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,799 I did my job and there was my job, and 371 00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:57,960 they don't like any of that special recognition. So please 372 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,200 don't do that. Just you know, thank you for telling me. 373 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,400 Thank you, But we don't need to spread this around. 374 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,480 Went back to the guy I said, he I really 375 00:25:06,519 --> 00:25:09,160 appreciate you guys saying that. It's just, you know, I 376 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,240 think people get too prideful of that, and it was 377 00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:13,359 it was a job, and you know, well but you do. 378 00:25:13,519 --> 00:25:16,079 And then it kind of got spread around little bit 379 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,319 more because people. He always so humble, he isn't want 380 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:26,920 people to know. But the feelings he got from this 381 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,319 validate him in ways that his job didn't. His job 382 00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:33,559 was not something that he thought was important. It was 383 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,960 it was providing an income. So he started to mithbuild 384 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,759 and it got to that point where he actually devoted 385 00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:42,079 himself to finding someone who served, who looked like him 386 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,279 as a young guy, and putting this in a special 387 00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:47,079 place in his office where people would say, do you 388 00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:48,839 have any pictures if you're serving? Yeah, I really don't 389 00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:51,440 shield this around because you know it's but hey, it's 390 00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:54,839 come into my office, goes into his little dead there 391 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,720 and there's there's the pictures and some metals and wow, 392 00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:04,680 wow wow, oh wow. And all the while he knew 393 00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:07,400 I am lying, I'm going to get caught. He thought 394 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:12,079 about moving to another area and starting over it, but 395 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:17,680 the myth was so important to him, and the myth 396 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,480 of Matthew Shepherd has become so important to so many 397 00:26:20,519 --> 00:26:25,119 of these organizations and so important to believe because it 398 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,519 puts you on the right side. We stand against the 399 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:34,200 rednecks in Laramie, Wyoming who felt it was okay to 400 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,599 go torture and kill a man because he was gay. 401 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,960 We stand against that. That's what we stand against. I 402 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,240 don't know what you stand for, but we stand for 403 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,519 the freedom to go to Laramie, Wyoming as the same 404 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:48,079 sex attracted man. And if you're not on our side, 405 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,319 you're on the side of the people who took Matthew 406 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,039 Shepherd and tied him to a fence and crucified him. 407 00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:57,799 That's hate. You stand with hate. We are racing hate. 408 00:26:57,839 --> 00:27:00,480 You are writing it into the record. We are the 409 00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:02,519 good guys and you are the bad guys. And Matthew 410 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:04,720 Shepherd was a college student on the way to a 411 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:12,599 promising career. And these rednecks, these drug addicted, drug dealing rednecks. 412 00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:22,200 That's a powerful myth. So it happens that a gentleman 413 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:28,359 decided to look into this story and he wrote a book. 414 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:37,839 It took him about thirteen years to write this book. 415 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,279 He was going to go back and write a screenplay. 416 00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:47,839 His name is Stephen Jimenez. The book is called The 417 00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:53,599 Book of matt It took him thirteen years. He had 418 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,759 just intended to write a screenplay about the murder of 419 00:27:56,799 --> 00:28:00,640 a guy in Redneckville for the crime of same sex 420 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:07,000 attract So let's get into that a second. No one 421 00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:08,759 wants to see stuff like this. No one wants to 422 00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:10,759 see the outcome of this a young man who've gone 423 00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:13,160 through that. No one wants to see the after effects 424 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:19,599 of war. Anybody not up close, you know, you to 425 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,880 talk about it changes people. My friend Tim Krukshank, three 426 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,240 separate times went and was deployed on my behalf in yours. 427 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,039 I'm wearing one of tam shirts today bone Frog Classic shirt, 428 00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:35,279 and three separate times. He did that as a medic 429 00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:38,119 attached to the seal teams, so he was in the 430 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:43,279 business of reviving and saving the lives of terrorists they 431 00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:46,960 confronted on the battlefield so that they could be interrogated. 432 00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:50,440 He was in the business of rushing to try to 433 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,880 save the lives of fallen teammates and often succeeding, sometimes 434 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,000 not being able to save their lives, and being with 435 00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:00,359 them as they passed on. He had to exp sperience 436 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,079 of shooting ats and being shot ats, placing explosives and such, 437 00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:07,880 and he came home decided to teach other people how 438 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,759 to become Navy seals. He did that for a while 439 00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:12,640 at Buds. It's a Buds instructor. All the while in 440 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,319 his mind he was constructing the coffee company he runs 441 00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:18,319 today called bone Frog. It began with this, what will 442 00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:21,599 I call my coffee company? He went through several names, 443 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,559 landed on bone Frog, and the insignia of the bone 444 00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:27,480 Frog indicates a fallen Navy sealed. Makes sense since he 445 00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:30,039 was a medic or some people say Corman Tims's medics, 446 00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:33,559 so I'll say what he says. And then the coffee 447 00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:36,799 company began to take shape. Coffee is a big thing 448 00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:38,720 when you are down, it's a hell week and you're 449 00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:41,160 one of the instructors and you get to have coffee, 450 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,039 and the people going through it don't, but you do. 451 00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:47,200 And when he founded the company, then he went and 452 00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:49,400 was very honest with himself. I don't know a bloom 453 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,039 and stinking thing about making coffee. So he went and 454 00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:54,799 did what Seals did. He put together a team, brought 455 00:29:54,839 --> 00:29:57,359 on Dave Stewart as a mentor. He makes some of 456 00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:00,519 the roasts. He mentors the team. Dave started Seattle's Best Coffee, 457 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,319 which is a legendary coffee company. When you buy from 458 00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:05,960 bone Frog, you are supporting the fallen. The families have 459 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,480 fallen Navy Seals. Ten percent of proceeds go to them. 460 00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:12,079 Every time. You're supporting a company that stands proudly with God. 461 00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:15,039 H Beg says God Country Team, and you will enjoy 462 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,839 the best coffee in the world, made either through the 463 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,359 mentoring or the direct work of a coffee legend who 464 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,440 got in the way of Starbucks so much that they 465 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,880 had to give them a ton of money to buy 466 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,200 Seattle's best coffee. There's no downside. Go subscribe to their 467 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,279 coffee Bonefrog Coffee dot com slash todd. You use promo 468 00:30:31,319 --> 00:30:33,920 code todd to get fifteen percent off subscription in Coffee 469 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,319 for Life. And yes, there are people buying Christmas presents already. 470 00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:39,160 I know Halloween did not hear, but yeah, you could 471 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:44,319 buy this shirt Bonefrogcoffee dot Com slash todd. So this 472 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,279 guy decided to look into the death. Stephen Jimenez said 473 00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:50,960 to look into the death of Matthew Shepard, and Revolvert 474 00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:53,359 News pointed you to this in their article. This month 475 00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:55,160 marks the twenty seventh anniversary of one of the most 476 00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:00,400 powerful US syops. So, writing in The Guardian about Matthew 477 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,880 Shepherd's story, read this, but the Matthew Shepherd story is 478 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,920 not yet finished. A new twist came last year with 479 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,079 the publication of another book, this one by investigative journalist 480 00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:13,359 Stephen Amenez, who spent thirteen years interviewing more than one 481 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,920 hundred people with a connection to the case. His conclusion 482 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,160 outlined in the Book of matt Hidden Truce about the 483 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,160 murder of Matthew Shepherd is that the grotesque murder was 484 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,839 not a hate crime, but could instead be blamed on 485 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,279 crystal meth, a drug that was flooding Denver and the 486 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:30,000 surrounding areas at the time of Matthew's death. The new 487 00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:33,400 theory has understandably caused a lot of anger. J Menez 488 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,039 faced a barrage of criticism since the publication was booked, 489 00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:39,559 and has had readings to promote the book Boycotted. Hemenez claims, however, 490 00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:41,599 that many of his critics have not yet actually read it. 491 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,920 The Advocate Americans Leading LGBT so called t LGB so 492 00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:49,039 called TA magazine published a piece last year entitled why 493 00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:52,960 I'm not reading the Trutherism about Matthew Shepherd. Amenez has 494 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,039 been accused of being a revisionist, a criticism you should 495 00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:58,920 reserve for extreme right wing ideologues that deny the Holocaust, 496 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,799 and labeled a homophone in this thirteen years he spent 497 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,559 investigating this, there is no sign that he was a 498 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,720 right wing home full There was no sign that he 499 00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:11,839 was right wing at all. He intended to make a 500 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:19,160 screenplay about a tragedy. Back to The Guardian, Jimenez found 501 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,599 that Matthew was addicted to in dealing crystal meth and 502 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,960 a dabbled and heroin. He also took significant sexual risks 503 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,079 and was being pimped alongside Aaron McKinney, one of his 504 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,680 killers with whom he'd had occasional sexual encounters. He was 505 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,480 HIV positive at the time of his death. This does 506 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,880 not make the perfect poster boy for the gay rights movement, 507 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,960 says Simonez, which is a big part of the reason 508 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,039 why my book was so trashed. Matthew's drug abuse in 509 00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:47,599 the fact that he knew one of his killers prior 510 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,720 to the attack was never export in court. Neither was 511 00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:53,920 the rumor that the killers knew that he had access 512 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,960 to a shipment of crystal meth with a street value 513 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,200 of ten thousand dollars, which they wanted to steal. He 514 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,960 was born into an affluent family and had attended State College, 515 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,640 a state school in Casper, whoming the twenty one year 516 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,400 old political silence major at a major at Laramie University. 517 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,720 He stood only five to two inches tall in his 518 00:33:11,839 --> 00:33:14,799 blonde hair, embraces and slight frame given him air vulnerability 519 00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:17,720 and innocence. In his junior year of high school, Matthew 520 00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:20,240 moved his family to Saudi Arabia. There were no American 521 00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:22,039 high schools in Saudi at the time, so he was 522 00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:24,519 sent to the American school in Switzerland. By the time 523 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:27,359 he enrolled at Laramie, he spoke three languages had aspirations 524 00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:30,079 to be human rights advocate. Somewhere along the line, however, 525 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,559 Matthew fell from being a grade day student to a 526 00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:36,319 drug addicted prostitute who diced with danger. He suffered periods 527 00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:39,319 of depression, possibly as a result of being gang raped 528 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:49,240 a few years earlier while on holiday in Morocco. Hmm, gosh, 529 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:56,640 wasn't I asking earlier in the show what went wrong? 530 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:10,880 That seemed idyllic? What went wrong? I would think being 531 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:20,320 gang raped would be horrific. I would think it would 532 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,920 feel as if Satan was pouring out wrath on you. 533 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,719 I would think one might even be tempted to be ashamed, 534 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:43,000 even though you never did anything. I would think Matthew 535 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:50,000 Shepherd was haunted by that. I would think that's an 536 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:59,119 important detail. I would have hoped that Matthew would have 537 00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:03,360 had the lord to turn. He did have the lord, 538 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:14,639 but maybe not the knowledge. He had money affluence college, 539 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,000 but didn't have the capacity to go to the Lord, 540 00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:27,719 and to say, why me, why me? What am I 541 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:41,000 to learn from this? Help me forgive? Helped me be cleansed. 542 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:48,320 Though it wasn't my fault. He didn't have that. He 543 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,239 had what a lot of people in twenty twenty five 544 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:59,000 America have. He had people telling him brave and stunning, 545 00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:07,039 embrace who you are. Don't worry about how it came about, 546 00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:12,760 Just be that. So Stephen de Menez was actually welcome 547 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,079 to Bay Area Television, which is insane to me because 548 00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:18,599 Bay Area television is not a place I would think 549 00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:20,880 that this author could get a friendly hearing, but he did. 550 00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:23,840 He went on un talked about his book. There's soul 551 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,079 a lot to get to, such as the advocate now 552 00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:30,360 effectively admitting Stephen the Menez is right, but the myth 553 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,400 is so important. They sound a lot like Catherine Mayer. 554 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,239 We'll get to that in a second. This is a 555 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,679 good break to remind ourselves that not all is dark, 556 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,440 not all is scary, not all is bad. Even people 557 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,440 who are facing death can do so bravely and with 558 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,360 a great sense of comfort. My friend John, who runs 559 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,920 Alan soaps, he disclosed to us about six months ago 560 00:36:50,039 --> 00:36:52,119 that the doctors had told him Hey, here's where the 561 00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:54,400 cancers at in your body. It's kind of all over 562 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,519 the place right now. And he has decided to not 563 00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:02,800 stop the fight, not go all in on this because 564 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,880 he wants quality of time with his family. So he's 565 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,400 in treatments, but he's not all in and he thinks 566 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,679 he might make another summer. Now. This doesn't change the 567 00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:13,880 fact that Alan Soaps is the best soaps in the world. 568 00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:17,599 They're made in America, all natural fragrances you can't find 569 00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:20,360 anywhere else because they come from the mind of his son, Alan, 570 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,599 who's a great kid. I hope you get to meet 571 00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:24,159 him one day. There's a whole bunch of pictures of 572 00:37:24,199 --> 00:37:26,519 him doing things at Alan Soaps dot com slash todd. 573 00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:30,719 He works there every day packaging, quality control, inventing soaps. 574 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,639 Unique looking kid because he's got a unique structure in 575 00:37:33,679 --> 00:37:36,239 his body. He's been through eighteen operations at his young 576 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,039 young age, and his brother Ian works there also impacted 577 00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:42,320 by autism. At a time we had Amy working there. 578 00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:44,840 Needed to make a change. As John is going through 579 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,920 his change to go to the Lord. These soaps that 580 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,079 you can buy at Alan Soaps dot Com, slash todd 581 00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:52,719 or as gentle as possibly can be, because this family 582 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,000 that makes him, they don't add any chemicals. They can't. 583 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,679 They've been doing this for three generations. They refuse to change. 584 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,079 So go to Alan Soaps dot Com slash Todd gets 585 00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:03,920 soap that cleanses you, that proves it all lives matter 586 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,760 and is not not going to hurt your soul as 587 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,360 you use it in the you know, in comparison to 588 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,440 using soaps made in oh, I don't know, prison camps 589 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,159 in China. And when you subscribe to the soap, you're 590 00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:16,400 going to help the family. As John's wife takes over 591 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,159 running the company on behalf of her sons, we hope 592 00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:20,519 to get back to a point where we can hire 593 00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:23,199 more people like Amy, who is also working there. It's 594 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,440 Alan Soaps dot Com slash Todd. That's Alan Soaps dot 595 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:32,400 Com slash Todd. Steven Demenez sat down in San Francisco 596 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:38,239 Television and kpix talking about the story of Matthew Shepherd's 597 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,800 and writing of the book and what he discovered. This 598 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,840 is a brief bit. There's a link to the full video, 599 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:43,880 which is fascinating. 600 00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:47,039 Speaker 6: It was centered around the drug methamphetamine, which at the 601 00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:50,920 time really was not being reported on nationally. Remember this 602 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,360 is fifteen years ago. In nineteen ninety eight, meth was 603 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,920 already becoming a very big problem in Wyoming and in 604 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,280 other states in the in the Midwest and the West, 605 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,000 but it really wasn't being discussed. And at the very 606 00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:04,920 same time, it was also starting to become a serious 607 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,639 problem in the gay community in urban gay enclaves. And 608 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,559 it wasn't until five six years after Matthew's murder that 609 00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:15,679 people really began to look seriously at this problem and 610 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,639 the national media began to report on it. 611 00:39:17,679 --> 00:39:20,039 Speaker 7: Why did it take so long? Because I remember in 612 00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:23,320 nineteen ninety eight when he was killed, so viciously killed, 613 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,239 he was left at a fence for what eighteen hours? 614 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,239 He was tied to a fence, eighteen hours. He died 615 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,880 five days later. We all remember that, and there was 616 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,559 so much national media attention on this, and it was 617 00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:37,880 considered a hate crime. Why did we hear about drugs then? 618 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 6: Well, I think one reason, Michelle is that very quickly 619 00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:45,360 all the records in the case were sealed by the 620 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,679 court and all the witnesses were placed under a gag order, 621 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,320 and that went on for one year from shortly after 622 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,760 the crime until after the principal perpetrator, Aaron McKinney was 623 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,880 convicted and sent away for two life sentences. It wasn't 624 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:02,880 until after that time period, and that's when I went 625 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,159 to Laramie that the records were really available, and by 626 00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:08,280 that point journalists thought the story was over. 627 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:16,519 Speaker 1: He doesn't say because journalists were idiots. He doesn't say 628 00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:20,159 because they set out to lie. He gives them grace. 629 00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:26,239 They did know, but they reported it like they knew 630 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:34,039 because it should have been true. I mean Laramie, Wyoming. 631 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,559 These are rednecks. Of course, they killed the guy because 632 00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:44,079 he's gay. They're rednecks. That's what rednecks do. They kill 633 00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:49,960 gay guys. When you're the national media and people like us. 634 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,880 I live in North Idaho, people like us are foreign 635 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,280 to you, it's easy to make these miss up or 636 00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:02,760 keep him. This was propagated on October fix of this year. 637 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,360 This is a so called priest father Jim chic Sicco. 638 00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:10,280 Twenty six years ago tomorrow, Matthew Shepard was beaten and 639 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,480 left for dead, tied to a fence and whaleming. The 640 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,639 only part of his face not covered in blood in 641 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,920 blood was two white lines running down his cheeks from 642 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,079 where his tears ran dry? Is death ignited a fight 643 00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:22,800 for equality? You don't have to be gay to be 644 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,840 a supporter, You just have to be human. Now, he 645 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,400 doesn't say the so called priest, and I say so 646 00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:32,480 called because he appears to be a career liar. He 647 00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:35,159 doesn't say that Matthew Shepard was killed because he was gay, 648 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:41,199 because he probably knows better. And that line about the 649 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,840 two tiers, the only place not covered in blood was 650 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:49,039 where his tears ran down. Maybe that's true. It's also 651 00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:52,119 an image they put out constantly and continue to pretend 652 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,880 because he was same sex attracted. There is a podcast 653 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,840 called silver Linings The Silver Lining Handbook podcasts of interesting 654 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,960 conversations hosted by former New York Times reporter writer Jason Blair. 655 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:16,679 Stop and think, Jason Blair. Jason Blair, does that name 656 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,239 bring back any memories? It did for me. After I 657 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,719 listened to this piece, I thought, ah, yeah, Jason Blair, 658 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,960 this is from twenty twenty four. 659 00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:31,039 Speaker 8: It takes a while, because you know people, it's everything 660 00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:35,079 they do is a learned behavior pretty much, and everything 661 00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:38,840 trickles down from like our ancestors and how we were raised. 662 00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:43,840 That's how we are the people we are. If a 663 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,679 parent is going to be homophobic, they're going to probably 664 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,320 raise their kids homophobic, and those kids will raise their 665 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,519 kids homophobic. So you know, there's a lot of deprogramming 666 00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,079 that needs to be done within people because of how 667 00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:00,800 they grew up. 668 00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: Here's how they described this podcasts at the Silver Linings Handbook. 669 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,599 The brutal murder of Matthew Sheppard, a gay University of 670 00:43:08,599 --> 00:43:13,320 Wilding student, shocked America, the American conscience and mine. C. A. J. Johnson, 671 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,800 the host of Rainbow Crimes, joins me Tuesday to discuss 672 00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:19,840 that moment in covering crimes against those who were LGB 673 00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:25,840 so called T and Q. Jason Blair, I thought that 674 00:43:26,039 --> 00:43:29,559 name struck a bell. I went to the magic Google 675 00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:32,159 machine and even let an AI answer It's AI answer 676 00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:34,440 it for me. The Jason Blair controversy refers to the 677 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,639 two thousand and three scandal where former New York Times 678 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:41,360 reporter Jason Blair was exposed for journalistic fraud, including plagiarizing 679 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,079 and fabricating stories. The scandal led to the resignation of 680 00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:48,039 two top editors, a major blow to the newspaper's credibility, 681 00:43:48,119 --> 00:43:50,559 as if it had any and prompted industry to ride 682 00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:54,840 changes in editorial standards and accountability. Well, it didn't temporarily. 683 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:02,360 He actually it was really good. If you read Jason 684 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,800 Blair article, said, Wow, this guy's a great reporter. It's 685 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:13,639 almost like reading fiction that Jason Blair. We had no 686 00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:16,840 problem doing it then and apparently has no problem doing 687 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:22,239 it now. Remember Katherine Merris quote, are reverence for the 688 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,199 truth gets in the way of getting things done? Here's 689 00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:28,239 the advocate writing, there are valuable reasons for telling certain 690 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,639 stories in a certain way at a pivotal time, at 691 00:44:30,639 --> 00:44:33,039 pivotal times, but that doesn't mean we have to hold 692 00:44:33,039 --> 00:44:36,320 on to them once they've outlived their usefulness. In his 693 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,480 book Flagrant Conduct, Dale Carpenter, professor at the University of 694 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,360 Minnesota Law School, similarly unpicks the notorious case of Lawrence 695 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,559 versus Texas, in which the arrest for two men having 696 00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:50,280 sex in their own bedroom became a vehicle for affirming 697 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,360 the right of gay couples to have consensual sex and 698 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,880 private Except that the two men were not having sex, 699 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,679 and we're not even a couple yet this non story, 700 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,119 fully edited and taken all the way to Supreme Court 701 00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:06,599 changed America in different ways. The Shepherd story We've come 702 00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:09,159 to embrace was just as necessary for shaping the history 703 00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:12,239 of gay rights as Lawrence versus Texas that galvanized the 704 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,840 generation of LGB so called t youth and stung lawmakers 705 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,400 into action. President Obama, who signed the Hate Crimes Prevention Act, 706 00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:22,159 named for Shepherd and James Byrd Junior, into law in 707 00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:25,119 October twenty eight, two thousand and nine, credited Judy Shepherd 708 00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:28,639 for making him quote passionate about LGB so called tea equality. 709 00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:32,320 There are obvious reasons why advocates of hate crime legislation 710 00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:35,119 must want to preserve one particular version of the Matthew 711 00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:38,920 Shepherd story, but it was always just that a version. 712 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:47,039 Jimenez's version is another. An article goes on to say, 713 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:56,000 were well researched, sounds a lot like Catherine Marer. Jesus 714 00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:57,840 Christ said, I am the Way, the Truth in the life. 715 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,920 No one comes to the Father, but through me we 716 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,079 cannot get anything done, anything that matters in an eternal 717 00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:08,960 sense without Jesus, without being attached to the mind. He 718 00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:11,760 is the truth, the way in the life, the way, 719 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,960 the truth and the life. Our reverence for the truth 720 00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:20,440 is reverence for God. You should not lie, lies of convenience, 721 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,519 lies to cover lies that are embarrassing, lies to cover 722 00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:30,559 things that you are doing to yourself. I'm not really 723 00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:35,280 addicted to drugs. I just dabble or lies about Matthew Shepherd. 724 00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:38,079 They don't help you, and the lies about Matthew Shepherd 725 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,519 do not help the community of same sex attracted people. 726 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,239 This is the Todd Hermannshaw. Please go, be well, be strong, 727 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,920 be kind, Please make every effort to walk in the 728 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,559 light of Christ. And I hope you're cooking up a 729 00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:52,119 good weekend with your beloved family like I hope to 730 00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:56,840 be cooking up with mine.