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Speaker 4: Introduce yourself, sir hey Man. Thank you so much, Tom
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Speaker 4: from Forbidden Knowledge News and very happy to get weird
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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm I'm very excited for this.
Speaker 3: As people are probably familiar with Forbidden Knowledge News.
Speaker 2: I've been on your show a bunch of times.
Speaker 3: We've talked about an array of strange subjects, that's for sure,
Speaker 3: and now you get to tiptoe in a little bit
Speaker 3: of my reality, my my strange world over here.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I love it.
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Speaker 3: Man, we talk, uh and So I want to bring
Speaker 3: this in that we're both avid users of magic, mushrooms
Speaker 3: and psychedelics. I'm more of like I would love to
Speaker 3: try acid and stuff eventually, even just once, like a
Speaker 3: one time thing. I would be interested. I would like
Speaker 3: to know if you've done any of that stuff I've done.
Speaker 2: I can't think of it now. Was that stuff you
Speaker 2: smoke the black stuff? Not DMT?
Speaker 3: I would love to do that. It was legal in
Speaker 3: Canada for a long time. Yeah, self, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: People have you ever tried it?
Speaker 4: No, I haven't tried that one.
Speaker 3: It's people claim it's like it's technically a psychedelic, but
Speaker 3: I don't know if I would classify it as that.
Speaker 3: I've had weird experiences on it, Like I I you
Speaker 3: could in a corner store. So the subject that I
Speaker 3: want to kind of focus on is the idea of
Speaker 3: psychedelics and how it can heal your mind, but also
Speaker 3: it can kind of show you the darkness behind your
Speaker 3: own eyes and your own mind and the darkness behind others.
Speaker 3: Also because it's, uh, it's pretty crazy, you know, So
Speaker 3: I'm uh, yeah, Selvia was a weird one.
Speaker 2: It's uh, I'm surprised you never try it.
Speaker 3: So you used to be able to buy it at
Speaker 3: corner stores in Canada, right, really weird And I don't know.
Speaker 2: We just saw it, like what's this kind of thing?
Speaker 3: And it was a like a bunch of different corner
Speaker 3: stores we saw and it was like in a little
Speaker 3: like those display cases that turned right by where you
Speaker 3: like buy cigarettes, So like all right, we could buy it,
Speaker 3: and the guy never asked for ID or anything like
Speaker 3: that ever. And then so the first time I did,
Speaker 3: I was at this convenience store in this like small
Speaker 3: city and we're sitting at a picnic table and then
Speaker 3: I had headphones around my neck. It felt like a
Speaker 3: snake was on my neck, and one of the chicken
Speaker 3: crossing I was hanging out with with some of wh
Speaker 3: other friends start turning in greed and stuff. So it's
Speaker 3: it could you classify it as it, but it's very weird,
Speaker 3: Like I don't really like it. You feel weird for
Speaker 3: about maybe two minutes, you laugh your ass off, and
Speaker 3: then it ends right on.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So what I'll do is I'll start out with
Speaker 4: a big disclaimer. I do not recommend psychedelics to anybody.
Speaker 4: This is a very personal journey for each person. I
Speaker 4: think you have to be ready, you have to be respectful,
Speaker 4: you have to research what you're doing and make sure
Speaker 4: you go when you're going in that you maybe have
Speaker 4: a babysitter with you. But again, this is not anything
Speaker 4: I recommend to anybody. This was my personal journey. Somehow
Speaker 4: I've become known as the mushroom guy to talk to
Speaker 4: you about some of these things. But it's cool Man
Speaker 4: and I'm The next movie I'm making does kind of
Speaker 4: interweave psychedelic experience into near death experiences and alien contact
Speaker 4: and things like that. But I can honestly say that
Speaker 4: I really oh where I'm at right now, this whole career,
Speaker 4: everything I've done to my fearless consciousness exploration when it
Speaker 4: comes to magic mushrooms, and this was my primary substance
Speaker 4: that I used. I Like you said acid, I used,
Speaker 4: you know, other psychedelics growing up as a teenager, for
Speaker 4: like as a party drug, really, but I had didn't
Speaker 4: really start using it for spiritual and healing purposes in
Speaker 4: till like twenty twenty. Yeah. Oh yeah, I've done acid
Speaker 4: plenty of times, and I can't anymore because ever since
Speaker 4: I started doing mushrooms, the acid experiences have become very
Speaker 4: dark and disconnected, So I really don't. I don't enjoy
Speaker 4: any other types of psychedelics besides the mushrooms, and now
Speaker 4: I've even kind of I don't want to say I've
Speaker 4: quit using them, but I don't really utilize them like
Speaker 4: I used to. I feel like I've gotten a lot
Speaker 4: of what I need from them in where I'm in
Speaker 4: my journey and where I'm going occasionally I'll go back
Speaker 4: and revisit the experience, but for a while there I
Speaker 4: was growing them, and you know, having these experiences quite often.
Speaker 4: But yeah, like I said, I really owe everything I
Speaker 4: am to the healing aspects and what they've shown me
Speaker 4: about myself and really the how they've opened my eyes
Speaker 4: to possibilities of the nature of reality when it comes
Speaker 4: to our metaphysical reality and the spiritual nature of things.
Speaker 4: I do think that these are a doorway, that these
Speaker 4: can open up your mind's eye to different realities, to
Speaker 4: information intelligences that surround us at all times. But again
Speaker 4: this comes with a warning because you're interacting with things
Speaker 4: at times that may not have your best interest in mind,
Speaker 4: that may not have humanity's best interests in mind. There's
Speaker 4: both dark and light intelligences in these realms, and I
Speaker 4: would recommend if you do go in, you go in
Speaker 4: with some sort of spiritual understanding and protection with you,
Speaker 4: because there's what I've encountered as trickster entities, even the
Speaker 4: most lowest, darkest I wouldn't know if they were demonic,
Speaker 4: but very dark and nasty intelligences that I've encountered through
Speaker 4: my experiences and no matter how dark and crazy the
Speaker 4: experience is, God, I would always come away on the
Speaker 4: other end with a sense that thankfulness and since that
Speaker 4: I've learned something and grew from that experience, no matter
Speaker 4: how crazy and dark it got. But I don't know
Speaker 4: where you want to begin with this, because with my experiences,
Speaker 4: it actually all began with meditation and coming into contact
Speaker 4: with a voice that I now understand as my higher
Speaker 4: self that really gave me instructions on how to proceed
Speaker 4: with everything I was trying to do with my life.
Speaker 4: You know, this meditative experience was so profound that I
Speaker 4: was communicating with something that startled me at first, didn't
Speaker 4: know what I was communicating with, but it gave me
Speaker 4: the insights that I should heal childhood trauma, I should
Speaker 4: start stop getting into shitty relationships and all these things
Speaker 4: I need to take care of in my life in
Speaker 4: order to proceed with the career and lifestyle and everything
Speaker 4: that I was looking to do with my life. And
Speaker 4: it really helped me focus in on that. And one
Speaker 4: of the messages was also psilocybin mushrooms will help you
Speaker 4: further heal and connect with some of this stuff. And
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking, I haven't done any psychedelics since I
Speaker 4: was a teenager, and now this voice in my head
Speaker 4: is telling me to do psychedelics. Am I having some
Speaker 4: sort of acid flashback or something. But this experience repeated itself,
Speaker 4: and I eventually moved to Colorado where I was able
Speaker 4: to legally grow these mushrooms and eventually started these very
Speaker 4: high dose journeys.
Speaker 3: When you start because I've I've never really attempted to meditate,
Speaker 3: like I feel like I've done it in some regard
Speaker 3: when I've been on magic mushrooms kind of because you
Speaker 3: kind of be in that meditative state.
Speaker 2: But I just kind of want, how did you do it?
Speaker 3: Was it just like you know, basic like people call
Speaker 3: it Indian stance, but that the Lotus stance or whatever?
Speaker 2: Or would you lay down.
Speaker 4: Or I actually got into the bathtub hot water, put
Speaker 4: on four thirty two hertz tones and this was this
Speaker 4: is my most successful. I think it's different for each person.
Speaker 4: They can connect in different ways. But for me, it's
Speaker 4: either just really comfortable laying down in bed or in
Speaker 4: water is actually kind of like a conduit and it
Speaker 4: strengthens the experience for.
Speaker 2: You want to relax but not fall asleep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, that's right, they'll fall a sep so.
Speaker 3: And the thing is, I've I didn't use psychondelcs. Later
Speaker 3: on my life. I had a lot of friends growing
Speaker 3: up that were like doing magic mushrooms. I heard these experiences,
Speaker 3: and it is strange because I was researching things like
Speaker 3: aliens and the reptilians. But I was like pretty young,
Speaker 3: like sixteen seventeen or something like that. So seeing my
Speaker 3: friends go through some of these experiences, like my friend
Speaker 3: claimed that he had a thousand hands touching him and
Speaker 3: I watched him freak out on a couch in the dark, right,
Speaker 3: And so I'm like, I don't know if I should
Speaker 3: be doing this stuff. And I agree with you is
Speaker 3: that I think it's a powerful medicine and that people
Speaker 3: have to be very aware and conscious of where you are,
Speaker 3: what you're doing, what your mental state is. Don't do
Speaker 3: it if you're depressed or you've had a bad day.
Speaker 3: I've done that and it does not show you anything good.
Speaker 3: And at the end of it, I still come out
Speaker 3: of it like relieved and it's helped me in some
Speaker 3: sort of way. But it is I think it can
Speaker 3: be dangerous, and like I want you to get in
Speaker 3: your stories. But I've seen weird stuff like this, like
Speaker 3: where they claim it's on DMT that you'll be able
Speaker 3: to see stuff like this. But I was on like
Speaker 3: four and a half grams and I was laying on
Speaker 3: the couch after I was watching some like I think
Speaker 3: I was watching Woodstock like Leonard Skinner play just like
Speaker 3: jamming with it, and that's closed my eyes. And every
Speaker 3: time I closed my eyes, like a thousand eyes looking
Speaker 3: back at me, and I was like, none of that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna snap out of that.
Speaker 3: But I've looked into I've told this on the show
Speaker 3: before that I've looked at like really on high doses
Speaker 3: of mushrooms like blue Meanies, and there's the one that
Speaker 3: I liked, Makila Gorilla, very like strong, and I've looked
Speaker 3: through the fractals and I swear that I've seen like
Speaker 3: demonic faces or something like just very lightly but it's
Speaker 3: like translucent like patterns that look almost like ancient tribal patterns.
Speaker 3: And when I've looked through them, I've almost like seen
Speaker 3: things looking at me, and it's it's freaked me out.
Speaker 3: But I was always, uh, I was brave and it didn't.
Speaker 3: It didn't freak me out, like, it didn't scare me mentally,
Speaker 3: but it like scared my inside, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what I think is happening is basically the entire
Speaker 4: universes inside our consciousness. We can access different and multiple
Speaker 4: infinite dimensions through going within ourselves, and when we go within,
Speaker 4: we can access everything, including these intelligences that lie in
Speaker 4: these different frequencies that we can't perceive during our waking lives.
Speaker 4: I think we experienced similar things in dreams, near death experiences,
Speaker 4: even with people correlate with alien contact experiences, and these
Speaker 4: experiences can be when you're in them, it can be
Speaker 4: more real than your waking reality. I started out taking
Speaker 4: about two or three grams somewhat heroic doses, and by
Speaker 4: the time, you know, a couple of years later, I
Speaker 4: was taking about five grams each time, and the experiences
Speaker 4: would become more and more all encompassing, and eventually it'd
Speaker 4: be to where I would just lay down and I
Speaker 4: would take off and interact with different entities and have
Speaker 4: these insane different experiences. And I was able to get
Speaker 4: to a point where I could become aware enough to
Speaker 4: every once in a while jump up and take some
Speaker 4: note about the experience, because once you'd come back, it
Speaker 4: become like a dream and very very difficult to remember
Speaker 4: a lot of the things that would occur, so I'd
Speaker 4: have to start writing them down. And some of the
Speaker 4: things that I'd come back with, like being in these
Speaker 4: strange astral classrooms with unseen intelligences teaching me about how
Speaker 4: to love myself again, aligning my chakras, how to heal
Speaker 4: this certain childhood trauma and go back into that instance
Speaker 4: in the past and move your childhood self or out
Speaker 4: of that experience. Just insane things that whatever this this
Speaker 4: intelligence was that I made contact with was helping me along.
Speaker 4: And I got the sense that the first higher self
Speaker 4: that I came into contact with through meditation was there
Speaker 4: as a sort of guide and protector during all these experiences.
Speaker 4: Because there's times I'd get involved with intelligences that probably
Speaker 4: weren't didn't have my best interest in mind, tricksters, maybe
Speaker 4: malevolent intelligences that I would start to interact with, and
Speaker 4: that voice, that higher self voice would come in and
Speaker 4: be like, you sure you want to talk to this person?
Speaker 4: You sure you want to talk to this entity? I
Speaker 4: don't know. Sometimes it'd let me go and learn from
Speaker 4: the experience, and I'd get deep into it and start
Speaker 4: to visualize what I'm actually speaking with, and it turned
Speaker 4: into like a spider or a giant demon or something,
Speaker 4: and you know, this voice would be like, yeah, you
Speaker 4: got to watch out for these things and see.
Speaker 3: And so you were doing this while doing like a
Speaker 3: more or less a meditation, right, because I've attempted to
Speaker 3: do things like healing. Like most times i'd watch my
Speaker 3: wife would be with me, right, So I'd be watching
Speaker 3: movies or music videos and guys hanging out talking about
Speaker 3: our lives. And it was able for me to accept
Speaker 3: a lot of the pain and hurt that I maybe
Speaker 3: even inflicted on her when we were younger, because you've
Speaker 3: been together for so long, right, And I always I didn't.
Speaker 3: I've only done a couple times when I've had the
Speaker 3: opportunity to like lay there and really meditate. And as
Speaker 3: you were saying, like healing traumas I my mom had
Speaker 3: she miscarried when I was eight, Right, I think it
Speaker 3: to me deeply more than she understands, of her trauma
Speaker 3: actually being pressed upon on me without her even acknowledging it.
Speaker 3: And and so like I lost a little brother. I
Speaker 3: always wonder where he was. And one experience, I swear
Speaker 3: I felt my mom's pain of when that experience happened
Speaker 3: to her, Like that's how powerful this drug can be.
Speaker 3: And uh, just to clar just to kind of give
Speaker 3: you the at least there's some of the experiences I've had.
Speaker 3: And then one time I was thinking about my grandparents
Speaker 3: that died, my two uncles that died of one of
Speaker 3: tumor with drug induced alcoholics. She was a massive alcoholic,
Speaker 3: and I swear I heard her voice say I'm here
Speaker 3: in her voice, and it like shut like just just
Speaker 3: like you know when you get that cracked egg over
Speaker 3: your head feeling like I think it's part of your
Speaker 3: chakras or something, and you just feel that like vibration
Speaker 3: all over your body. I felt that, and it's just
Speaker 3: it's crazy with the ability these things can do to
Speaker 3: unlock the trauma and the recesses of your mind, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I found whenever I would have an experience with
Speaker 4: someone else, like my wife or other group of people,
Speaker 4: that the experience would be focused on the collective energy,
Speaker 4: and it would focus on things that me and the
Speaker 4: other person would experience. But when I'm by myself and meditating,
Speaker 4: it goes deep, man, It goes deep into your psyche,
Speaker 4: and you face a lot of things you're not ready for,
Speaker 4: a lot of things you don't want to. It brings
Speaker 4: up those demons and those dark things that you did
Speaker 4: in your life that you're not proud of, that you
Speaker 4: never faced, and it gets difficult and it gets terrifying
Speaker 4: at times. But the key is to face it. The
Speaker 4: key is to look it right in the eye. And
Speaker 4: even if it's the biggest, baddest, demonic looking entity that's
Speaker 4: associated with something in your childhood that you're not proud
Speaker 4: of and it comes after you, you get the sense of
Speaker 4: what this is, why it's attacking you. And if you
Speaker 4: don't face it, it just gets worse and you start
Speaker 4: to have a bad trip and it just becomes a
Speaker 4: really not fun experience. But if you can just look
Speaker 4: it in the eye and understand why it's trying to
Speaker 4: show this to you, it becomes an incredibly healing experience
Speaker 4: and that demon or monster turns into an angel or
Speaker 4: vibrant light or any you know, some kind of healing,
Speaker 4: loving feeling that is a transmute. It transmutes itself from
Speaker 4: something negative and that's what I think the key to
Speaker 4: a lot of these experiences are.
Speaker 3: And I've a certain practice of how you did it,
Speaker 3: like like it just lay down, Like I listened to
Speaker 3: Alan Watts a couple times when I was doing and
Speaker 3: just to kind of get in a very meditative state, I.
Speaker 4: Would always put on four thirty two Hurtz tones. Okay,
Speaker 4: no like music with you know, a vocals or anything,
Speaker 4: nothing that could really guide my consciousness besides just the tones.
Speaker 3: Because then you're picking up on words and things that
Speaker 3: the songs are associare with. Because I've like I've been
Speaker 3: tripping balls out of my mind and somehow YouTube, it's
Speaker 3: weird finds these songs that invoke, like invoke these emotions
Speaker 3: out of me. How like I discovered this or just
Speaker 3: I really like it's a British group London grammar, very
Speaker 3: like methodical tunes, very emotional based music, and it kind
Speaker 3: of invoked this thing out of me and I was like, well,
Speaker 3: I didn't want to wake the wife.
Speaker 2: It was before I started a new job. Whatever.
Speaker 3: I'm listening to headphones plugged into like the PlayStation remote,
Speaker 3: and then I'm like start crying my eyes out, and
Speaker 3: like I don't even know why this is a song,
Speaker 3: just like I don't even it just came on when
Speaker 3: I was thinking there and then like, it's weird how
Speaker 3: it guide you. And then certain songs will push you
Speaker 3: in certain directions of like trauma and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and it's it's it's interesting how well it can use music.
Speaker 3: But that's why I'm interested in what you've done, because
Speaker 3: I want to also take that journey now that I've
Speaker 3: had so much experience with it, and as you have done.
Speaker 3: I was doing it every almost every other weekend, every
Speaker 3: weekend last summer, watching horror movies outside doing like crazy
Speaker 3: is shite. People are like, you're crazy, Like I watched
Speaker 3: The Witch like out four grams of mushrooms on outside
Speaker 3: by the fire on a projector, and then I could
Speaker 3: I was obsessing about, like me using the Oigi bar
Speaker 3: when I was younger. After I was like, god, I
Speaker 3: shouldn't have done that. All the dark arts. I was
Speaker 3: thinking about how long just like the dark dimensions, like
Speaker 3: this this occult magic sink into our reality and how
Speaker 3: much has it been impacted on me? Like all these
Speaker 3: crazy thoughts, like I watched America Wealf of London, Highest
Speaker 3: Fight that was actually kind of fun. But I want
Speaker 3: to start using it for what you've done and actually
Speaker 3: try to attempt to reach some sort of higher being,
Speaker 3: especially my higher self, because I feel that he's there
Speaker 3: having them.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Man, And these experiences became so intense, and the
Speaker 4: synchronicities in these synchronisticism seeped into my waking life in
Speaker 4: ways that I couldn't ignore. Things would unfold that I'd
Speaker 4: be told about in the experience. Too many quote unquote
Speaker 4: coincidences would unfold, and it would be like a story
Speaker 4: unfolding that would start in these astral runs homes that
Speaker 4: would seep into my waking life. And if I paid
Speaker 4: attention to the synchronicities and things that were showing up
Speaker 4: and followed them in a certain way, I would find success.
Speaker 4: I would find happiness. If I didn't pay attention to
Speaker 4: them or ignored certain things, that's when things wouldn't go
Speaker 4: as they should in my life. And there were If
Speaker 4: you want to, I can tell you about the two
Speaker 4: most absolutely insanely crazy experiences.
Speaker 2: I've had a juice bro I want.
Speaker 4: To number one. This was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 4: This was one of my ex girlfriends.
Speaker 2: Did how many years ago.
Speaker 4: Did you start kind of since twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, so you've beginning for a bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because that's why I don't really I don't really
Speaker 4: do it anymore. I mean ever, once in the blue moon,
Speaker 4: I'll take a few, but I you know, I feel like,
Speaker 4: especially after this, that this last big experience that I'm
Speaker 4: about to tell you about, I really am like, okay,
Speaker 4: this is this is a lot and I need to
Speaker 4: take a break from. But I'll tell you about these
Speaker 4: two experiences. First one was with an ex girlfriend a
Speaker 4: couple of years ago, and this one really set off
Speaker 4: the future experiences, as in there were a certain intensity,
Speaker 4: and then after this experience, like a rocket ship, every
Speaker 4: experience was insane after that. But with this one, I
Speaker 4: was with my ex girlfriend and she was a psychic
Speaker 4: intuitive healer. I don't know if I told this story
Speaker 4: on your show before.
Speaker 2: I think you you told me when I first on
Speaker 2: your show.
Speaker 4: But I was at this Okay, okay, I'll tell I'll
Speaker 4: tell you.
Speaker 2: T all the audience still I hear this because it's wild.
Speaker 4: So yeah, So me and my ex girlfriend, she had
Speaker 4: not done any type of psychedelics or mushrooms, and I
Speaker 4: had some one hand, and she told me she wanted
Speaker 4: to try him, and she's like, well, yeah, and I
Speaker 4: can do a healing session for you. We'll do it
Speaker 4: a regression, get you, you know, heal some childhood trauma.
Speaker 4: And I was like, you know, I trusted her at
Speaker 4: the time, which looking back was probably a bad idea.
Speaker 2: Was that instance psychedelics?
Speaker 4: No, No, this was her first time.
Speaker 2: So that's what it's gonna go one way. And that's
Speaker 2: why I agree with her.
Speaker 3: You said at the beginning is have a trip sitter,
Speaker 3: or at least have if you have never done it,
Speaker 3: and they're gonna do it with somebody else, do it
Speaker 3: with somebody that has a lot of experience I ever
Speaker 3: wanted to do it, I would do it with him
Speaker 3: to have some transform experience, but I would make sure that,
Speaker 3: like I was really conscious and aware of what he's
Speaker 3: going through, right because.
Speaker 2: You need you have to have that right on. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So she I dosed her like with a couple of
Speaker 4: grams at first. I took it, you know, two or
Speaker 4: three grams, and two hours or so go by. She
Speaker 4: didn't feel anything. So I'm like, look, you want to
Speaker 4: I just dosed her with like five grams she's like, sure,
Speaker 4: why not? Takes five. Another hour or so goes by,
Speaker 4: and she says, she doesn't, you know, feel anything, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, this is very strange whatever. So I'm
Speaker 4: because I'm off my head, I'm off my right and
Speaker 4: she's like, all right, well let's I don't feel it,
Speaker 4: but let's do your regression whatever. I'm like, okay, So
Speaker 4: we do this thing. She kind of walks me through
Speaker 4: to this like traumatic memory I had in my childhood,
Speaker 4: walks me through it, and I actually feel better after
Speaker 4: the experience. Well it seemed like everything was fine, but
Speaker 4: we start having this conversation. I don't remember exactly what about,
Speaker 4: but I start to notice what she's saying, like it
Speaker 4: doesn't really make sense and it's getting weird. And this
Speaker 4: is what I remember her saying. She's like, I came
Speaker 4: here X amount of years ago, and I found you,
Speaker 4: and I attached myself to you. I help you get
Speaker 4: where you were, I loved you and I grew you,
Speaker 4: and now you it seems like you don't need me
Speaker 4: anymore and you don't love me anymore. And I'm like,
Speaker 4: what are you? I looked at her and I shit,
Speaker 4: you not? She shape shifted into a fucking reptilian. She
Speaker 4: had yellow teeth, yellow eyes. I shit you not. She
Speaker 4: even grew a couple of feet. She was wearing this nightgown.
Speaker 4: Dude standing like I want to know, Like I was standing,
Speaker 4: she was sitting, and she stood up, and she was like.
Speaker 4: I was like, what the dude? And I just ran.
Speaker 4: I was like, what is going on? She's I ran
Speaker 4: to my basement. I hear like behind me, she's like,
Speaker 4: you don't love me anymore. I don't know if it's
Speaker 4: like a voice projecting in my head or what. Well,
Speaker 4: I'll tell you after what I would. I've come to
Speaker 4: understand what happened. But so I'm running around, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: the only answer for this because I've never had an
Speaker 4: experience this all encompassing and intense, because my whole house
Speaker 4: turned into a dungeon. I looked outside. The skies were
Speaker 4: blood red, I had bars on the windows. All of
Speaker 4: a sudden, everything was I'm like, okay, this is the
Speaker 4: only explanation for this. I've died and I'm in hell.
Speaker 4: You know, first mushroom overdose. I guess I don't. This
Speaker 4: is the only dude, I didn't know what was so
Speaker 4: I was like, I ran back upstairs. I'm looking around
Speaker 4: the corner making I don't see her. So I run
Speaker 4: into my bathroom. I turn on my shower, jump in
Speaker 4: the shower. I'm like, just water's running over me. The
Speaker 4: bathroom all dingy and crazy looking, not like we keep
Speaker 4: I keep a fucking clean house. And this was crazy.
Speaker 4: I was like, what is going on? I don't I
Speaker 4: didn't know what to do, so I just start praying.
Speaker 4: I'm like, God, please. As soon as I started praying, bro,
Speaker 4: this rumbling started happening in my stomach and I puked
Speaker 4: up this black, oily goo into the tub. Bro, and
Speaker 4: I heard this voice say, no, you are being deceived,
Speaker 4: Like it rumbled my whole body. After I puke up
Speaker 4: this black stuff, I feel amazing and I feel this
Speaker 4: like loving presence in the room. Everything's not only back
Speaker 4: to normal, but looks like shiny and beautiful.
Speaker 3: And I think that you actually, like you actually puked
Speaker 3: out some sort of like.
Speaker 4: Yes, I saw it. It was I don't know, man,
Speaker 4: it was black. It was like nothing I'd ever seen before,
Speaker 4: looked like oil. So I get out and like, look
Speaker 4: at I opened the door and there's you know, my
Speaker 4: ex girlfriend. She's back to normal, not a reptilian anymore,
Speaker 4: and she's like, what the fuck's going on? I was like,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 4: I don't know. So, you know, time goes by. But
Speaker 4: what happened after that is I started seeing a different
Speaker 4: side of her, a may you call it a reptilian side,
Speaker 4: where she was dark, she was mean. Her personality change,
Speaker 4: she became very materialistic, and I started seeing a new
Speaker 4: side of her. And it was like, oh shit, did
Speaker 4: I just not see this before? And I've come to
Speaker 4: realize that, man, those mushrooms were showing me a side
Speaker 4: of her that it not necessarily that she was actually
Speaker 4: a reptilian, but it was showing me a darkness in
Speaker 4: her that I didn't see that I needed to be
Speaker 4: aware of, and it presented itself as this experience.
Speaker 3: Do you think that it's possible that she could have
Speaker 3: had a demonic attachment?
Speaker 4: I think that is possible too. I mean, anything's possible.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I used Theluigi Born a lot when I was younger,
Speaker 3: and as soon as I started doing the alien research,
Speaker 3: like this is crazy, I would like drink like I'm
Speaker 3: having a Scotcher, though I would drink right, and I
Speaker 3: would use the Ouiji board while I was like under
Speaker 3: the influence, which is such a weird thing by myself.
Speaker 3: Listen my aunts from Jamaica, and she's like, never use
Speaker 3: it by yourself. I got obsessed with it when I
Speaker 3: was in Jamaica.
Speaker 2: Don't do what. I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep.
Speaker 3: And then I was sixteen and I went home and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna attempt to do this because I wasn't afraid
Speaker 3: of shit, and I think that's something attached to me.
Speaker 3: Who knows, God knows what. But once I started realizing
Speaker 3: I started doing the alien research, it started telling me
Speaker 3: things like my mom was a reptilian and me and
Speaker 3: her are scorpios and we butt heads. I'm far this
Speaker 3: way about conspiracy mind and stuff, not trusting the government,
Speaker 3: and she's kind of over the other way, like she's
Speaker 3: a nurse and she's been taught to believe in the
Speaker 3: medical industry and all that stuff like that. Right, So
Speaker 3: it was telling me that there's like demonic forces around
Speaker 3: me and stuff like that, that my mom has an
Speaker 3: attachment all this crazy stuff, right.
Speaker 2: And I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: And then I eventually used it with my stepbrother and
Speaker 3: it wouldn't move unless my hands were on it. And like,
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's my own consciousness. It was
Speaker 3: my Ouiji board, so like I have obviously a connection
Speaker 3: to it or something. And it told me I have
Speaker 3: nine spirits attached to me, and some were good and
Speaker 3: some were bad.
Speaker 2: So I believe and I felt that I've.
Speaker 3: Been possessed or under certain states of consciousness, especially maybe
Speaker 3: under the influence of alcohol. I've always kept it at
Speaker 3: bay and you feel, you know, you feel that you
Speaker 3: fork feelings sometimes, but I have felt like there's something
Speaker 3: that can that is there like talking to me sometimes.
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm wondering you could have saw like
Speaker 3: her her attachment because you see the minds that David
Speaker 3: Ike has done with that one psychic where it looks
Speaker 3: like it's almost in the backs of people, right, and
Speaker 3: it kind of just like hovers over them and stays
Speaker 3: with them because they draw energy out of these people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it it could very well be. I've considered
Speaker 4: that as well. It could be a little mix of both.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, But let me tell you this
Speaker 4: other because this is probably gonna take up the rest
Speaker 4: of the show. This one experience is cray Z and
Speaker 4: I still, uh, it still affects me when I think
Speaker 4: about it today. So there's this this happened, Oh May
Speaker 4: this happened May the fourth of this year. May the
Speaker 4: fourth be with you all?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 4: So yes, yes, all right?
Speaker 2: Light sad out. So here we go.
Speaker 4: So I wake up on this May the fourth and
Speaker 4: I just feel weird. And my wife's like, hey, there's
Speaker 4: a metaphysical fare down the road. Let's go. And I'm
Speaker 4: usually like, oh, these things are pretty cool. Yeah, let's
Speaker 4: go check it out. So this day I was like
Speaker 4: something was telling me, m m, you don't want to
Speaker 4: do that, and I was like, oh whatever. So the
Speaker 4: whole way there, it's weird, man. All these sad songs
Speaker 4: are playing on the rid depressing songs. I'm like changing,
Speaker 4: like what the fuck? Like I'm playing from my Spotify,
Speaker 4: h did you dose? No? No, no, no, I didn't
Speaker 4: dose or nothing. This is just the morning we're going
Speaker 4: to the metaphysical fair. So I'm like stwitching to and like, ah,
Speaker 4: what does fuss? It's depressing ship through my Spotify every
Speaker 4: song is crazy depressing, So I just turned it off.
Speaker 4: I'm feeling sick. We get to the Metaphysical Fair and
Speaker 4: the closure we get to the building, it's like there's
Speaker 4: this like doom feeling and I don't know why, and
Speaker 4: I'm feeling sick. And so we get in there and
Speaker 4: my wife wants to go to this one booth where
Speaker 4: they do aura photography, and it was this old lady
Speaker 4: who takes your picture you can see your aura, and
Speaker 4: she tells you a little bit about what she sees.
Speaker 4: So we're also there with my producer, Corey, who is
Speaker 4: the least spiritual person in the world. He's cracked the
Speaker 4: jfk assassination. He's great with conspiracies, but he doesn't believe
Speaker 4: in anything spiritual. He's just there for as.
Speaker 3: You're talking about this, you're glitching out, like it's almost
Speaker 3: like something.
Speaker 2: It's like no, no, don't tell this story.
Speaker 4: Oh wait wait, you just wait, all right. So he's
Speaker 4: there and she takes my picture for the photography and
Speaker 4: she's starting to go over what she sees and like,
Speaker 4: I'm looking at everyone else's aura and it's just like
Speaker 4: one color around mine's got like a rainbow around it.
Speaker 4: And she's telling me what she sees, and she's like, Oh,
Speaker 4: you got a very strong voice. You probably do something
Speaker 4: talking for a living. I'm like, eh, that's pretty damn good.
Speaker 4: And so she keeps going on. She's and my friend
Speaker 4: runs up and he's like, Oh, is he gonna be rich?
Speaker 4: And she said no, he's got he's got too many
Speaker 4: beliefs floating around and he doesn't he doesn't have anything concrete.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, what the fuck is that supposed to mean?
Speaker 4: Sounds like well, yeah, well here's the thing. This is crazy, man.
Speaker 4: So I leave there and I feel even worse. I'm like,
Speaker 4: what does that lady mean by that? I don't know what? Like,
Speaker 4: what is it bothered me that she said that? And
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know. So I'm going through this
Speaker 4: existential crisis not telling anyone about it. And whenever I
Speaker 4: go through one of these things, I was like, oh m,
Speaker 4: I eat some mushrooms and figure this shit out. So
Speaker 4: that's what I did. I got home and I ate
Speaker 4: about four or five grams of mushrooms and I went
Speaker 4: into my room and started meditating, and man, this experience
Speaker 4: was in So I normally get to a state where
Speaker 4: I can communicate with my higher self, my guide, and
Speaker 4: get some information about what's going on, and I did,
Speaker 4: and they were like, don't worry about it, it's cool,
Speaker 4: let it go. And I'm like, oh no, I can't.
Speaker 4: Just like I can't let it go. What does it
Speaker 4: They're like, just let it go, it's all right. You
Speaker 4: never really get to enjoy your experiences. Go watch a movie,
Speaker 4: listen to music, the opposite of what I normally do.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, what the fuck is this all right?
Speaker 4: So I go upstairs and my friend Corey's there, my producer,
Speaker 4: and he's like, yeah, let's watch some TV. So we
Speaker 4: start watching TV and I just get this weird uneasy
Speaker 4: feeling again, like there's something something wrong, some kind of
Speaker 4: uh uh, just a heavy uneasiness. So I go outside
Speaker 4: and I'm sitting outside of my porch and he's out
Speaker 4: there and we start conversing and as we're talking, I
Speaker 4: get this vision that's like floating over me that I
Speaker 4: can see that is my past lie and it's like
Speaker 4: I've experienced this very conversation with this dude that like
Speaker 4: thousands of times, Like it was showing me how many
Speaker 4: times I've done this before. And I was telling him
Speaker 4: about what I was seeing. I was like man, I've
Speaker 4: done this so many times before, and this was crazy, dude,
Speaker 4: because a few times during my conversation with him, something
Speaker 4: else took over my perception and spoke to me through him,
Speaker 4: and it wasn't him, because I know the way this
Speaker 4: dude talks and some of the things that came out
Speaker 4: of his mouth during this evening, I was not him.
Speaker 4: And I checked with him the next day. I said,
Speaker 4: did you say this? He's like, what the fuck? No?
Speaker 2: So, man, so.
Speaker 4: Here's what happened.
Speaker 3: I'm like, weird because you've been clear, like clear, clear, clear,
Speaker 3: and as soon as you start telling this story, you
Speaker 3: glitched more and more and stuff like that. Like I'm
Speaker 3: still like, it's it's fine now, but it is weird
Speaker 3: that you've been clear, and then as soon as this
Speaker 3: story starts to come out, like it is a little
Speaker 3: weird and that's who knows it was the electric magnetic.
Speaker 4: Heads about to get even weirder, all right. So I'm
Speaker 4: like I've seen this, like I've seen We've done this
Speaker 4: so many times. We've lived many lives together. And he's like, yes,
Speaker 4: but it gets refined, doesn't it. And I'm like it does.
Speaker 4: It seems like it's better this. It seems like it's
Speaker 4: getting better every time. And he walks away and he goes,
Speaker 4: and I'm trying to find.
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Speaker 4: I want to talk to him about something and I
Speaker 4: don't know why, but all this information starts flooding to
Speaker 4: me and I feel like I solve the mystery of
Speaker 4: the universe, and like all this ego starts bursting out
Speaker 4: of me, and I start telling him about it, and
Speaker 4: I don't even know if it makes any sense, but
Speaker 4: I start telling him I could say the word I'll
Speaker 4: figured all this shit out, and it's like coming out,
Speaker 4: and I start to get angry at like humanity for
Speaker 4: not figuring it out yet, and I'm like, what the
Speaker 4: why didn't anyone else figure, any of the why can't
Speaker 4: we just be at peace? And I'm like saying, everybody's
Speaker 4: stupid monkeys and all this stuff, and he looks at
Speaker 4: me and he goes, well, at some point, doesn't it
Speaker 4: become a reflection of yourself? And my mind just went
Speaker 4: and like I melted. Bro I didn't know what to
Speaker 4: and I was like, this is not Cory, this is
Speaker 4: not my friend who's talking to me right now. And
Speaker 4: he's just sitting there with this stoic look and he's
Speaker 4: not saying anything, and it's like, it's not cool. It's
Speaker 4: there's something else I'm talking to right now coming through
Speaker 4: my friend, and I don't know what's real or what's
Speaker 4: not anymore. I'm like, am I in a vision? He's
Speaker 4: like are you in a vision? And I'm like what
Speaker 4: the fuck? So I was like all right, Uh. I
Speaker 4: was like, something's weird and then this no, like this
Speaker 4: knowing it was unknowing I knew it, And don't ask
Speaker 4: me what the fuck I knew it. I was dead.
Speaker 4: I just had this knowing you died. And I was like, what,
Speaker 4: I just heard it. You felt it. I heard a
Speaker 4: voice you died. That's it. You're dead it's over and
Speaker 4: I'm like what And I was like, hey, I just
Speaker 4: been told I died. What's up with that? He's like,
Speaker 4: did you? And I was like, like, somebody's so CRYPTI.
Speaker 4: I said, well, if I did, can't I go back?
Speaker 4: He's like yeah, but you got to start all over
Speaker 4: from the beginning again. And I said, fuck no, fuck no,
Speaker 4: I ain't doing this over again. Fuck that, and he's
Speaker 4: I was like, can I go back to where I was?
Speaker 4: He's like I don't know. And he starts walking away
Speaker 4: and I'm like, what the what is going on? And
Speaker 4: when he gets to a certain point, it's like everything
Speaker 4: snaps back to normal and he's like, hey, let's go
Speaker 4: finish that movie. And it was back to him again
Speaker 4: and I'm like what. He's like, you're acting. Let's go
Speaker 4: watch the movie and I'm like, oh okay. So we
Speaker 4: go up and we start watching the movie again, and dude,
Speaker 4: this is where shit fell apart. Man. I'm watching the
Speaker 4: movie whatever we're watching, a fucking demon face comes out
Speaker 4: of the TV and like wars at me. I look
Speaker 4: over at him and he's a corpse. He's like dead,
Speaker 4: He's got black circles under his eyes. He looks over.
Speaker 4: He's just like he looks at me, and he says,
Speaker 4: just watch the TV man, that's all you got to do.
Speaker 4: And I'm like what the fuck. And I'm like, oh movie, dude,
Speaker 4: I run listen to this. I am freaking out. I
Speaker 4: run back to my wife and I shake her awake,
Speaker 4: and she's a corpse too. Man, She's dead. She's got circles.
Speaker 4: She starts yelling obscenities at me that I've never heard
Speaker 4: her say before, Like, dude, it was I was like what.
Speaker 4: I was like, I am dead and I'm in hell.
Speaker 4: This is the only explanation for what is happening right now.
Speaker 4: I'm dead and I'm in hell. I took off outside
Speaker 4: and all the street lights were out. It was like
Speaker 4: pitch black. Ever seen my neighborhood like this before. I'm like,
Speaker 4: what is going on? And I got the sense I
Speaker 4: got this knowing again, Yeah, you're dead and you didn't
Speaker 4: have that belief, so guess what you're in. You're in
Speaker 4: hell or in purgatory or something like what the fuck.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I just because I don't believe religion.
Speaker 4: I don't listen. I listened to this, okay, So I
Speaker 4: like to get down on my knees. I'm like, fuck, okay,
Speaker 4: Jesus helped me.
Speaker 2: What Jesus?
Speaker 4: Somebody listen to you, bro. It gets crazy. It's like,
Speaker 4: you know, maybe I need to find God. That's the answer.
Speaker 4: If I'm dead right now, maybe I can just go
Speaker 4: find God in the afterlife. Dude. I start walking down
Speaker 4: my street and apparently neither my friend nor my wife
Speaker 4: knew I left on your street.
Speaker 2: Physically, you're walking.
Speaker 4: Well, in my mind, I'm dead and I'm I'm walking
Speaker 4: in and you know, I'm the after astral life, you know, afterlife.
Speaker 4: So I go walking and I'm having a life review, man,
Speaker 4: a legit life review, all these images of everything fucked
Speaker 4: up I did in my life, where I've been everything,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, I can think of like this
Speaker 4: is gonna be a long night, and I just gotta
Speaker 4: find God, I guess. So I'm like.
Speaker 2: God on her street.
Speaker 4: So that's what I do.
Speaker 2: I start.
Speaker 4: I start walking, dude, and they have I can either
Speaker 4: go straight with a bunch of street lights lit up
Speaker 4: in a row, or I can take a right and
Speaker 4: it's kind of dark, but there's this like glowing haze
Speaker 4: in the distance. So I'm like, fuck, I'll follow them
Speaker 4: street lights. I start walking. As soon as I get
Speaker 4: under the first one, boof it just goes out like explodes. Dude.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh fuck, I can't go this way. So
Speaker 4: I back up and I turn and I'm just it
Speaker 4: seems like forever that I'm walking down this dark street
Speaker 4: and they got like dogs walking by that look like
Speaker 4: little demons. I can like sense people in their house
Speaker 4: looking out their window and talking shit about me. Just
Speaker 4: crazy dark stuff occurring, and like I'm walking down the
Speaker 4: street and it seemed like forever, and I'm like, I
Speaker 4: give up. I surrender. I laid down in the middle
Speaker 4: of the mofucking road and I was like, just take
Speaker 4: me to wherever I'm supposed to go. Take me hell,
Speaker 4: take me to heaven. And I look up and man,
Speaker 4: the stars were beautiful and that like it was like amazing.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, this can't be like Hell, this
Speaker 4: is too beautiful. I didn't know there was beauty in hell.
Speaker 4: And like all of a sudden, big booming voice comes in,
Speaker 4: It's all about your perspective even in the afterlife, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? And I
Speaker 4: get up and I'm looking around and everything doesn't look
Speaker 4: as dark and gloomy anymore. And this voice says, look
Speaker 4: for a light, but close your eyes first. I'm like,
Speaker 4: all right, I close my eyes, man, and I see
Speaker 4: demon mouths and eyes trying to chomp me up. And
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't see no light anywhere. The
Speaker 4: voice comes through again, Nah, look around, take a good
Speaker 4: look around, look for a light. So I did, and
Speaker 4: I see this light, like hazy light in the distance
Speaker 4: with my eyes closed, and I was like, all right,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna start walking towards that, dude. All of a sudden,
Speaker 4: I'm in a new neighborhood and the houses looked like
Speaker 4: really big and nice and like it's shiny and beautiful,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, damn, this is different I am. I'm looking.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I get the sense I need to do something.
Speaker 4: I need to talk to someone in one of these houses.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, so, either I'm gonna go knock on
Speaker 4: one of these doors and they're gonna take me to
Speaker 4: the hell authority, which is Satan, and I'm gonna have
Speaker 4: words with them and that's gonna be one option. Or
Speaker 4: I'll knock on this door and it'll be an angel
Speaker 4: and they'll take me to heaven and it'll be over with.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, all right, fuck it, I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 4: So I see, every house is like kind of you know,
Speaker 4: the same, except for this one fucking house that has
Speaker 4: a huge welcome sign over the door. It's lit up
Speaker 4: and it's got these bright ass lights all over the porch.
Speaker 4: It's shiny and beautiful, and I'm like, that has to
Speaker 4: be it, so dude, I should do not. I just
Speaker 4: walk up to this house and I ring the doorbell
Speaker 4: and this beautiful blonde hair lady answers the door. She
Speaker 4: said can I help you? And I said, is this
Speaker 4: where I'm supposed to be?
Speaker 2: Are you an angel?
Speaker 4: It gets crazy, man, he gets crazier than this. She's like,
Speaker 4: hold on a second. She closes the door, and I'm
Speaker 4: just standing there like waiting, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: this big, beautiful man opens the door. He just got
Speaker 4: this shiny aura of him. He's like, son, can I
Speaker 4: help you? And I said, yeah, I think I died
Speaker 4: and he's like, oh, hold on, shake my hand, and
Speaker 4: I sugar and he's like, nah, you're you're here. You're not.
Speaker 4: I don't think you're dead. And I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened then. Man, He's like, well,
Speaker 4: anything else it could be. I was like, I did
Speaker 4: eat a bunch of mushrooms early. I don't know, and
Speaker 4: he's like, well, that could be it. And look, I
Speaker 4: grew up Christian Catholic and I was terrified of all
Speaker 4: of that. I rejected all of it. I still reject
Speaker 4: aspects of it. But what this dude did. He said, hey,
Speaker 4: some would you like to pray with me? And all
Speaker 4: I thought was fuck, this is it. This is the angel. Dude.
Speaker 4: I get down start praying, crying with this man, and
Speaker 4: he's like, would you like to go home? And I
Speaker 4: was like home meaning Homer where I just you know,
Speaker 4: He's like, to your house? And I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I don't know how I'm supposed to re enter that situation.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm still thinking I'm dead. You know. He's like, well,
Speaker 4: let me see if I can bring you. How you
Speaker 4: get into this big, beautiful white truck looks like a
Speaker 4: chariot of heaven. Dude, he's talking to me, He's like,
Speaker 4: so what do you do for a living? Telling him
Speaker 4: about this, and he's like, well, I'm a preacher. I'm like,
Speaker 4: what the fuck? I said, all right, well, maybe I
Speaker 4: should give your side a little shout out on my show.
Speaker 4: And he's like, oh, that would be wonderful. So dude,
Speaker 4: he brings me home. I walk back in, there's Cory,
Speaker 4: there's my wife, and they're like, what the fuck do
Speaker 4: where'd you go? They're all freaked out, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't know. And again I'm like, I
Speaker 4: can't talk about this tonight. We're gonna, we're gonna, We're
Speaker 4: gonna put this pin in this till tomorrow. So dude,
Speaker 4: this is like it's like a new awakening for me.
Speaker 4: Now I'm still very wary of the whole thing, but
Speaker 4: I will tell you that I have a greater understanding
Speaker 4: of what happened. So the next day, I'm like, what
Speaker 4: the fuck am I like supposed to go find Jesus? Now?
Speaker 4: What is going on? So I wake up and I'm like,
Speaker 4: I got to go to the mountains and clear my mind,
Speaker 4: go for a hike or something. I get in my
Speaker 4: car and for some reason, I just drive directly to
Speaker 4: that dude's house and I'm like, what the all right?
Speaker 4: So I get out and I go knock on. I
Speaker 4: want to thank him just for bringing me home, Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: go knock on the door. His wife answers again. She's like, Chris,
Speaker 4: thank god, you're all right. And she's like, would you
Speaker 4: like to come to Sunday service with us? And I
Speaker 4: was like, oh shit, uh. I was like yeah, why not?
Speaker 4: Fuck it? So I go and when I walk into
Speaker 4: this church, I start getting downloads and realizations of everything
Speaker 4: and why why it all happen and the way it did,
Speaker 4: And to my current understanding, is because I was reaching
Speaker 4: out to that energy, that Christ energy, the God energy,
Speaker 4: which I one hundred percent believe there is a source,
Speaker 4: There is a God. There may not be a dude
Speaker 4: named Jesus Christ that ever existed, but there is that
Speaker 4: consciousness energy, and I think I was calling out to
Speaker 4: it enough to where it reached out and it presented
Speaker 4: itself to me. I went to that church and I
Speaker 4: was looking around and I saw the dog mass, saw
Speaker 4: the sadness. I saw the fear in all the people
Speaker 4: of the church, and I'm like, this is not you know,
Speaker 4: this is not where it's at. You know, these people
Speaker 4: are terrified of their own existence, you know. And I
Speaker 4: start I had a two hour conversation with the preacher
Speaker 4: that day, and he was terrified of everything I had
Speaker 4: to say about my own life and my own understanding is.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, and obviously there's something to everything.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, why have I been doing this show
Speaker 4: the whole time? Why haven't been gaining all these theological
Speaker 4: understanding spirit understandings talking to people from all walks of life. Well,
Speaker 4: because that's part of my journey. And another part of
Speaker 4: my journey is because I was born into the Christian faith.
Speaker 4: That is what my theological understandings gravitate towards when shit
Speaker 4: hits fans and things of that nature. So I got
Speaker 4: the understanding that there is something to that, there is
Speaker 4: something to the what you would call God source. And
Speaker 4: I my job is to bring everything that I've gathered
Speaker 4: through my whole life through doing this show and really
Speaker 4: not only bringing the new understandings to Christians who are
Speaker 4: really stuck in this terrifying box and are afraid of
Speaker 4: everything that there's just one message. It's just love thy neighbor,
Speaker 4: and you don't have to be scared of that. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's the simplest thing. And if more people would just
Speaker 4: realize that all the dogma can just be flushed down
Speaker 4: the toilet, like everything that people what traumatized me growing
Speaker 4: up as a kid, All that extra shit can go.
Speaker 4: We just need to have an understanding that there's a
Speaker 4: light energy, there's a source, there is an ultimate good
Speaker 4: out there that we can gravitate towards. And the understanding
Speaker 4: that the name of Christ, the concept of Jesus Christ,
Speaker 4: is an easy way to get to that understanding, and
Speaker 4: it's a universal way. And how whatever amount of truth
Speaker 4: is to all the stories, all the biblical stories, who cares.
Speaker 4: What was shown to me is there is a loving
Speaker 4: God energy. It presented itself to me, and I can't
Speaker 4: deny it after that.
Speaker 3: So and this is what I've said on the show. Look,
Speaker 3: I have a couple of friends. I have a friend
Speaker 3: that's is Jehovah witness. One of my good friends, Brett,
Speaker 3: that's been on my show numerous times now. I was like, hey, like,
Speaker 3: you know, I like introducing my audience to my friends
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, especially with different outlooks on life.
Speaker 3: And he's a Christian, strong, like hard work and dude
Speaker 3: that like you know, essentially like builds crazy stuff he's
Speaker 3: a welder. He just like he built like an apocalypse truck.
Speaker 3: Like it's wild, like the amount of money spent on
Speaker 3: this truck. And I've always told him that, like I
Speaker 3: don't believe in your your magic book, but I said,
Speaker 3: if you were to emulate somebody and you wanted to
Speaker 3: be like somebody, at least the story of him Christ
Speaker 3: is someone to be like because he was forgiving and
Speaker 3: he was strong. But also there's a thing that Christians
Speaker 3: forget is that Jesus Christ did flip tables for usury
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, like he was like enough is
Speaker 3: enough kind of person. I just put out a new
Speaker 3: song called Free Yourself, and essentially one of the lines
Speaker 3: I talk about like it's all part of the plan, right,
Speaker 3: Christians like just don't fight against the system then, like
Speaker 3: kind of things so and and and that's part of
Speaker 3: their problem. And I find that with the religious dogma
Speaker 3: is that it is I truly believe, a construct to
Speaker 3: divide and conquer people. But that being said, out of
Speaker 3: all the different faiths that I've talked to throughout my life,
Speaker 3: Christians are by far the nicest, most loving and caring
Speaker 3: people that actually want to care about all like their
Speaker 3: fellow people and human beings.
Speaker 2: And I always say to be human.
Speaker 3: Is to be humane, And it is interesting that you
Speaker 3: say it have those type of experiences, and h it
Speaker 3: is crazy because like you're like, my camera start glitching
Speaker 3: at your camera. It's like and you can't stop. Maybe
Speaker 3: if this is some sort of like electrocmagnetic field that
Speaker 3: is distributing like essentially disturbing some of the feed, because
Speaker 3: I believe like that can happen. There's been times where
Speaker 3: we've talked about like some dark stuff on the show
Speaker 3: and something starts messing up instantly as soon as we
Speaker 3: mentioned something. So I do believe that is it is possible.
Speaker 3: But I've had these these experiences too where I'm like,
Speaker 3: the one time I was watching As Weird as It Is,
Speaker 3: James Brown, I was.
Speaker 2: I was because I like to listen to fun music
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 3: Right, so I listen to Rich James James Brown comes
Speaker 3: on and it's when he's high on camera, right, and
Speaker 3: there's this famous footage where he's like definitely out of
Speaker 3: his mind on cocaine, and it's I see his face
Speaker 3: start changing on the screen and I'm like, he's not,
Speaker 3: that's not He's not human.
Speaker 2: That's not that's not a human guy. What we know
Speaker 2: is human. Uh.
Speaker 3: And then like I can, I was like, that guy's
Speaker 3: like a reptilian and he's some sort of dark entity.
Speaker 3: My TV instantly shuts off. My wife's upstairs getting ready.
Speaker 3: I'm on like three grams of mushrooms, uh through cameras loutings,
Speaker 3: so weird as soon as I mentioned the reptilian stuff.
Speaker 3: And then so it's really weird. And then the TV
Speaker 3: shuts off and I'm like, well that's weird.
Speaker 2: She's like wow.
Speaker 3: I'm like, the TV just shop. But then there's noise
Speaker 3: coming through the speaker. I can't explain. It just sounds
Speaker 3: like voices and stuff. And then but when I click
Speaker 3: back on the TV, everything's frozen, so there's no way
Speaker 3: Like in the audio didn't sound like what I was
Speaker 3: listening to. So it freaked me out and and and
Speaker 3: I was like, I think that something was trying to
Speaker 3: tell me something. But there's also been another experience where
Speaker 3: I was watching Jan'ce Not Bob, one of my favorite movies, uh,
Speaker 3: and Elizabeth Shannon Uh, the famous actress, started shape shifting
Speaker 3: on the in the film. I saw her chain to
Speaker 3: some sort of like what look like a reptilian to me,
Speaker 3: some scaly, demonic creature. So I do believe it is
Speaker 3: a possibility that you can like pull these things out
Speaker 3: of the ether of and and maybe identify people who
Speaker 3: are not or either have some sort of demonic attachment
Speaker 3: or themselves or connected to some sort of satanic dark bloodline.
Speaker 3: But it's weird the things that mushrooms will show you,
Speaker 3: and the fact that happened to you is the wildest
Speaker 3: shit because you could have knocked on any door and
Speaker 3: it could have been some guy that like maybe has
Speaker 3: meth make it a bed thing in his basement, is like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck.
Speaker 2: Are you doing on my property? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Anything, anything could have been some asshole, could have been
Speaker 3: any It could have been anybody, but for some reason,
Speaker 3: you knocked them the door of somebody Christians who are
Speaker 3: like very loving, caring people that just like care about
Speaker 3: their fellow human.
Speaker 2: That's so crazy.
Speaker 4: Man, dude, it is. And it's it's again something that
Speaker 4: I really it's impossible for me to ignore that it
Speaker 4: was presented to me in the way it was, and
Speaker 4: after all the experiences I have, there's no denying that
Speaker 4: there is an evil, dark force, whether it's demons or
Speaker 4: reptilians or aliens. There is something fundamentally wrong, not only
Speaker 4: with these etheric realms, but it's seeped into our reality.
Speaker 4: If you look at all our systems, political systems, education system,
Speaker 4: healthcare fundamentally parasitic and anti human at its cool.
Speaker 3: First yes, to heal you is to hurt you, and
Speaker 3: all these things. It's true, you see, it's parasitic because
Speaker 3: that's exactly these people are.
Speaker 2: Parasites and anti human. Yeah, is parasitic.
Speaker 3: And you see this where like I've like, you know,
Speaker 3: I had a co host that trans gay dude, token
Speaker 3: gay due didn't whatever. He helped me keep the show alive,
Speaker 3: and now he's trans and I saw this thing take
Speaker 3: hold of him where he kept going one way more
Speaker 3: and more and more and then it like, I feel
Speaker 3: like something took hold of him and now he thinks
Speaker 3: he's there and that and and it's it's bizarre to
Speaker 3: me to see someone fundamentally change their appearance, uh, to
Speaker 3: such a large extent to believe that there're and I
Speaker 3: I think that whatever, everybody is human and deserves to
Speaker 3: be treated, uh, you know, like with love and respect.
Speaker 3: But there is something about that whole movement of taking
Speaker 3: the the DNA of who you are. And this could
Speaker 3: be with the shoddy shot medicine time stuff of changing
Speaker 3: the fundamental things that make us human and almost reversing
Speaker 3: it into something that's not like all those surgeries.
Speaker 2: That that happen. It's not good for people.
Speaker 3: It actually destroys your body for eternity, to the last
Speaker 3: of your physical life.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 3: So and I've seen stuff take hold of people. I've
Speaker 3: felt it take hold of myself. I told you about
Speaker 3: that shadow people experience when I first came out to show.
Speaker 3: That's something that will has always changed my mind about
Speaker 3: what is real and what is not real. I saw
Speaker 3: something sober, sober as a judge, like even the judges
Speaker 3: probably at that so. I saw like entities looking at
Speaker 3: me as I was lying in bed at see paralysis
Speaker 3: and saw a seven eight foot tall creature looked down
Speaker 3: at me. Well, I was wide awake, wide awake, like
Speaker 3: no drugs, nothing, and this thing looked at me in
Speaker 3: a clause all sorts of shit, and I was like
Speaker 3: I was nineteen, and it always stuck with me that
Speaker 3: the experience will always live with me. Something was followed
Speaker 3: me from Cuba or whatever whatever that was.
Speaker 2: It's frightening. Man.
Speaker 4: That's why I cannot trust anyone in this love and
Speaker 4: like spiritual community that says these entities don't exist, that
Speaker 4: it's all angels and it's all love. The way I
Speaker 4: see it is these people who were channeling entities or
Speaker 4: channeling angels, most of them probably have no idea what
Speaker 4: they're really talking about. I've done tons of shows on
Speaker 4: tricksters and gin and these dark entities that can shape
Speaker 4: shift into anything, and they work off of flattery, they
Speaker 4: work off of your ego. They make you feel good
Speaker 4: about yourself, like you're gonna bring this special message to humanity.
Speaker 4: You're from a special bloodline, you have all these talents
Speaker 4: inside you that you can you're the only one that
Speaker 4: can bring this message. And then they're trapped in some
Speaker 4: sort of spiritual woo woo nonsense that's leading people in.
Speaker 2: The famous of them.
Speaker 3: There's like I think her name is Barbara Mansina is
Speaker 3: those that one guy's bald and he's like yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: and like people are like convinced that he's like the
Speaker 3: like connected to something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that guy.
Speaker 3: Uh interesting to say, uh say the least I have
Speaker 3: what's her name, Elizabeth Hayes her name. She's coming on
Speaker 3: the show in October, and she claims the channel entities.
Speaker 3: But she's someone that's more believable where she doesn't go
Speaker 3: into a trance. She just has these like psychic abilities
Speaker 3: that she has. And she was a kid and thought
Speaker 3: it was some religious upbringing. Uh, you know, so like
Speaker 3: it is. It is strange. I do believe that people
Speaker 3: have the possibility to be able to channel things to
Speaker 3: some extent.
Speaker 4: Uh, definitely do. But the question is do they know
Speaker 4: what they're communicating with.
Speaker 3: That's what I found with the Ouiji board, right is it?
Speaker 3: It told me like how was I supposed to?
Speaker 2: Even as a kid.
Speaker 3: When I was using it, I was twelve thirteen. Me
Speaker 3: and my friends thought it was a great, great time.
Speaker 3: It's like fund up parties, Like, I'll use it. We
Speaker 3: would come home at lunch on our break because I
Speaker 3: live right near the fucking elementary school. In grade seven,
Speaker 3: we used to come at the lunch time and start
Speaker 3: using the Weiga Board's like we got obsessed with it
Speaker 3: and how we had no idea what the hell we're
Speaker 3: talking to. We thought we were talking to Harold the
Speaker 3: Deani would tell us jokes like whatever that was, and
Speaker 3: we would do like three am in the morning and
Speaker 3: it would be like, oh, I have my grandfather and
Speaker 3: then we would ask the questions and it seemed like
Speaker 3: really sketchy. And then what is that Is that you're
Speaker 3: subconscious or is it something trying to break through?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Man, And the thing is you saying, like what I do.
Speaker 3: Believe that I'm I was supposed to talk and meet
Speaker 3: with people like you, right, and and the community that
Speaker 3: has kind of been formed, like Juan like me and
Speaker 3: Wan start podcasting. I started a little before he did,
Speaker 3: and he's grown into that. He's been pretty successful because
Speaker 3: he's like close to Sam Tripley and Sam Chowy's doing
Speaker 3: the best he can to kind of be an objective
Speaker 3: truth on in the middle of things, right. And but
Speaker 3: you see that there's a community formed. Realities are all
Speaker 3: these kind of people that are kind of all together
Speaker 3: and we're trying to make something and awaken people and
Speaker 3: just questioning everything, like, uh, if you've never I think,
Speaker 3: have you ever had Shane from Inquirers of Reality on?
Speaker 4: I think so.
Speaker 2: I think he's an interesting dude.
Speaker 3: He he claims that he was at some sort of festival, right,
Speaker 3: And it was during COVID and they're walking around and
Speaker 3: he saw that this person gave him a weird vibe
Speaker 3: and essentially they had a mask on and pulled down
Speaker 3: their mask and then faced looking at a reptilian face
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, just like that, and like, so
Speaker 3: like who knows what things are just lurking around walking
Speaker 3: around our reality and it's weird. You're crystal clear, everything's
Speaker 3: running good. But assume that story that you had it
Speaker 3: is weird that it almost meant like it's almost like
Speaker 3: you were touching something, right, and the more you touched it,
Speaker 3: the more that things became erratic.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yeah, man, this this reality is so much
Speaker 4: more interesting than many people give it credit for. And
Speaker 4: there is I think there's multiple layers to it, and
Speaker 4: right now I think we're having this collective experience where
Speaker 4: we're slowly peeling through some of these layers collectively. And
Speaker 4: there's a reaction to this kind of consciousness awakening where
Speaker 4: the more people collectively wake up, the more there's this
Speaker 4: insane reaction from the matrix system as it pertains to
Speaker 4: like politics and theater in politics and some of the
Speaker 4: insane agendas that are coming out that are leading people
Speaker 4: to hate each other and be polarized. It seems like
Speaker 4: the world has gone mad right now, but it's it's
Speaker 4: all seems like it's a symptom of this mass awakening.
Speaker 3: I know, and I've problems with a lot of the
Speaker 3: mass immigration stuff. Like I started a show called Tomcast
Speaker 3: essentially as yelled about what's going on with the world
Speaker 3: and the government, and I think that there's serious problems
Speaker 3: and like it is, like, I believe in unity, but
Speaker 3: at the same time, diversity is not our strength because
Speaker 3: differences do not make us stronger.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that it.
Speaker 3: Like I think that at the heart of things, if
Speaker 3: everyone woke up, sure that'd be great.
Speaker 2: But if you have.
Speaker 3: Too many people with different beliefs coinciding in the same place,
Speaker 3: there's no way there will be unity. It's impossible. That's
Speaker 3: why there was Christian nations and Muslim nations and all
Speaker 3: that stuff, And that's why I would love for humanity
Speaker 3: wake up and realize that we're all kind of one.
Speaker 2: But you see people that are either entitled or believe that.
Speaker 3: This and this, like people that come to Canada and
Speaker 3: they believe they're Canadian just because they step on the
Speaker 3: soil and stuff like that. But it's in like our blood,
Speaker 3: and that's what bothers me about some of this stuff.
Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to think about things more compassionately.
Speaker 2: That's why like people like you.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, there's part of me is
Speaker 3: like no, no, no, Like my family has built this country.
Speaker 3: I've been here for generations. And then it gets into
Speaker 3: that physical aspect of things. I'm like, now, I've told
Speaker 3: you this on the last show I was on that
Speaker 3: I've looked at aliens and the occult and especially the paranormal,
Speaker 3: but what fascinates me now is the physical aspects of
Speaker 3: who's in control. And desion is shit because it starts
Speaker 3: to once you start peeling back that onion, it is weird.
Speaker 3: That posted a meme, Whereas like the rabbit hole, once
Speaker 3: you get deeper in it, you just take away the
Speaker 3: tea and it's like Rabbi hole.
Speaker 2: So you know what I mean. There is a weird
Speaker 2: thing to do with the Telemudic Jews and what's going
Speaker 2: on with that. So that's what I'm like.
Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a rabbit dog looking for his bone,
Speaker 3: and I'm like interested in really wanting to dig into
Speaker 3: the Bolshevik Revolution stuff because it fascinates me, like why
Speaker 3: did these things take place in history?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: So, and that's why it's like you go from like this,
Speaker 3: I've went from spirituality and paranormal on a cult to
Speaker 3: like now more physical about like, hey, what has happened
Speaker 3: physically here to change and alter our our reality and history?
Speaker 2: What do you have with?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And there's so much of it right now that
Speaker 4: is becoming co opted, it's becoming infiltrated. It's hard to
Speaker 4: decipher a lot of the information coming out, and especially
Speaker 4: here in the United States with the political polarization. I
Speaker 4: have friends that are brilliant when it comes to the
Speaker 4: corruption and conspiratorial aspects of our reality, but they can't
Speaker 4: see that. They want to vote and they think that
Speaker 4: one of these clowns is actually going to make a
Speaker 4: difference in their lives. Yeah, it's one of our final
Speaker 4: frontiers that we have to get past. Is this this
Speaker 4: political system? And another thing, do you think that if
Speaker 4: we had evidence of the truth, the ultimate truth of
Speaker 4: maybe what if it's God, that, if it's aliens, if whatever,
Speaker 4: If we had the ultimate evidence, would that really solve
Speaker 4: all our problems. Will we stop being as tribal and
Speaker 4: maybe come together with this universal truth that because now
Speaker 4: everyone knows there's nothing to fight about. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, because people are still gonna believe
Speaker 3: that their beliefs are right. That's why I've said to like,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not really a fan. And this is
Speaker 3: just my span of all the Indians that are coming
Speaker 3: into Canada. I don't think they're very educated people. I
Speaker 3: think that even some Muslims, they come from countries that
Speaker 3: are poverty torn and torn by war. So the same
Speaker 3: people that push mass immigration are the same people that
Speaker 3: want to that have displaced these people in their countries,
Speaker 3: funded by Israel all that stuff, right, And my thing is,
Speaker 3: they come over here, they think, oh, we're gonna have
Speaker 3: a better life. They get handed everything, and then we're
Speaker 3: like nothing but paying for them.
Speaker 2: And these tax slaves.
Speaker 3: I believe that it doesn't matter what party you vote for,
Speaker 3: you're essentially in servitude to the government. And it's like
Speaker 3: all these different beliefs and these people are not educated,
Speaker 3: and they if you're only educated in your religion, and
Speaker 3: that's it. Because there's a lot of Muslim countries and
Speaker 3: in it.
Speaker 4: That's stabilization. That's all intional. You know, there's nothing natural
Speaker 4: about any of that. So all we'll see with this
Speaker 4: flitting of immigant is just about destabilizing these countries.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what's happening.
Speaker 3: And it's like there's a great video whereas like the
Speaker 3: immigration actually enforces poverty because the people that are actually
Speaker 3: skilled go to other countries and they don't spend the
Speaker 3: time to actually build and help the infrastructure of their
Speaker 3: own country because there's opportunities elsewhere. And the mass immigration thing,
Speaker 3: I think some of the last straws being pulled to
Speaker 3: literally destabilize the entire Western hemisphere and destroy it from within.
Speaker 3: Like Canada has no way out, and I think the
Speaker 3: States is in a little better condition.
Speaker 2: At least you guys have a little more.
Speaker 3: You guys have guns and shit, and we do to
Speaker 3: some extent, but not like you guys do where you
Speaker 3: could legitimately fight back in militias and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: And I don't even know if that's I don't want
Speaker 3: that to be necessary. But Canada is like drastically going
Speaker 3: into a place of communism, like pure pure communism Marxists,
Speaker 3: like we're already already socialists because we pay sixty percent
Speaker 3: in taxes for like most of our shit. If we
Speaker 3: were to pay some under the math, we were to
Speaker 3: pay all of our taxes and one essentially what month
Speaker 3: it would be July. We would spend six months out
Speaker 3: of the year paying money to the government. And it's crazy,
Speaker 3: this invisible, fucking money that they created. And that's why
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's hard to not be angry about this stuff. Like,
Speaker 3: I really like this guy, the Raging Dissident, Jeremy mackenzie,
Speaker 3: a Canadian patriot who fought in Afghanistan, founded everything he
Speaker 3: was doing was a lie and started digging into more
Speaker 3: of the Zionist stuff. And he's very angry. But I
Speaker 3: like his show because he's the only person that's been like,
Speaker 3: look how corrupt they are.
Speaker 2: How are we still doing this shit? Man?
Speaker 3: And I don't know what to break free, to get
Speaker 3: people to break free from that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those final frontiers. Man. All you
Speaker 4: can do is just keep steadfast and present your your
Speaker 4: understandings of things, and you know, try and keep a
Speaker 4: level hit about everything. And that's all we can do here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know, you gotta get out of here.
Speaker 3: But even I just shared that video of Quato Muttbar.
Speaker 3: I've always loved that stuff with David Ike. I've listened
Speaker 3: to that like he was my he was the person
Speaker 3: that opened the door for me.
Speaker 4: Oh this Tuesday, I've got David coming on. Oh.
Speaker 3: I keep trying to get him, but I tried. I've
Speaker 3: sent him numerous emails like try in July, try it
Speaker 3: this time. Obviously you've already had that threshold where the
Speaker 3: door has been kind of open. But he is by
Speaker 3: far one of the most favorite people. I'm probably one
Speaker 3: of his biggest fans, and even by the ghost Billy
Speaker 3: will like literally joke about it, like and say like
Speaker 3: horrible things about that stuff like getting around with me.
Speaker 3: But like essentially Benjamin full forp a weird as it is.
Speaker 3: When I was like fifteen, opened the door to Harp
Speaker 3: and then I led to David Ike. And it is
Speaker 3: interesting to see some of the stuff that Quatu Mutbar
Speaker 3: was saying about, like how I'm afraid that we're essentially
Speaker 3: going to be leading into probably one of the darkest times,
Speaker 3: and do we is that necessary essentially to awaken humanity
Speaker 3: and be like, wow, there is one evil force dictating
Speaker 3: over the rest of society, right, essentially we all have
Speaker 3: the same enemy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think in a way, you know, the events
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty may have been guided by a force
Speaker 4: beyond us, and we have a lot of people becoming
Speaker 4: aware of it, which is a good thing. So there
Speaker 4: has been good things coming out.
Speaker 2: All than I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: So I want to get you back on maybe to
Speaker 3: have a livestream kind of rant, because that's what I enjoy,
Speaker 3: Like I am strange bre you notice that we were
Speaker 3: structured very much of like what topic we're diving into.
Speaker 2: We're doing Richer Ramirez right now.
Speaker 3: So we've done the first part, not on an audio yet,
Speaker 3: but I feel like time this comes out it will
Speaker 3: be and then so we do like certain subjects. But
Speaker 3: to be able to I've always said that to have
Speaker 3: people on like you, when I'm able to kind of
Speaker 3: just go off.
Speaker 2: Especially that's why I go on your show.
Speaker 3: It kind of a it's a different experience, I think
Speaker 3: for the fans. So I want you to shout out
Speaker 3: your stuff and let people know where to find you,
Speaker 3: because I think that's very Yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, thanks again for having me. This was a blast.
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Speaker 4: Anything's greatly appreciated, and thank you again. Man, this was great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. I'm gonna ask you leave your
Speaker 3: computer on to let it download. I'm gonna end it
Speaker 3: with a song just in case because some of the
Speaker 3: it went a little crazy when you were telling your story.
Speaker 3: So I just on one of my new songs for
Speaker 3: all the people watching and listening at the end of this.
Speaker 3: So and then I appreciate you coming on. This is
Speaker 3: a great conversation.
Speaker 2: So they gonna come back on. We'll do some fun
Speaker 2: next time. Hell yeah, this was fun, said