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Speaker 1: BETB Woodfire Pizza and Grill in the mall at Grease Ridge.

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Excuse me while I brag on Matt Reese for just

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one moment. You know, here, we are getting into the

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thick of football season, right. I think by week four

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we can say we're started getting into the thick of

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it here. And what Matt has done at bTB, especially

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if you're a Bills fan, is create just a fun,

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friendly atmosphere with fantastic food, great specials, drink specials like

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Kevin got a bucket of beer, and.

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Speaker 2: It's just a fun place.

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Speaker 1: And every time the Bills score a touchdown, and they

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scored a zillion points on Monday night, I think they

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just scored another one. He gets up in place the

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shout song and you see people dancing around and it's

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just a fun atmosphere. And look, even if you're not

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a Bills fan, Matt's a Dallas fan, go and watch

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the Dallas fan and commiserate with Matt. I think they're

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going to turn this around. By the way, we're still

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early in the season, but there's over fifty TVs. The

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food is fantastic, from the share to the entrees to

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just handheld. They've got it all and it's just the

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perfect place for football for brunch on Sunday. Why not

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go to brunch on Sunday where you can get buy one,

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get one Mimosa's and Bloody Mary's and then stick around

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for football and see what I'm talking about bTB Woodfire

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Pizza and grill in the mall at gat.

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Speaker 2: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka.

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Speaker 1: We call it a podcast from the Mac of All

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Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots,

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Gee Brahm.

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Speaker 2: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for getting your pot on. Thank you for telling

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a friend. That's how we spread the word about the pirates.

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When we grow little by little, incremental growth. That's a

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real thing.

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Speaker 2: I will.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited because this sort of just kind of came together.

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A friend reached out and then it just sort of

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kind of came together. I haven't talked to Toby Hewitt,

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Toby Cooper Hewitt in a number of gosh, I think

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it's been years, right, Yeah. And Toby is an author,

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she's been a teacher, She's written a book called simple gifts,

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Living in Spirited Life a memoir. And I used to

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have Toby on with me on the radio and we

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would do speed readings.

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Speaker 2: Because you are.

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Speaker 3: Psychic medium.

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Speaker 1: Psychic medium, Yeah, I was gonna say clairvoyant. I didn't

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know what they're going to pick a word? Can I

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ask a question about psychic medium because I think that

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a lot of times people And I don't know if

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this is true or not. This is just my interpretation.

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But let's say we go and we get a reading

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from somebody. Do you believe that someone can actually tell

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the future or is it just that we can read

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the vibration of the.

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Speaker 2: Or not we I'm not I shouldn't use the pronoun we.

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Speaker 1: But you can read the vibration of the person, and

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if the vibration of the person stays the same, then

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therefore this is what's going to happen. But if they

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leave there and go that's not what I want. I

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didn't like what I heard. They can change their vibration

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and therefore that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: And then people go, she's full of shit.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I happened to.

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Speaker 1: Do you see what I'm saying? And I but can

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you really so? I don't know that anybody can actually

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tell you the future. They can just tell you the

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path that you're on. Would that be more accurate? Or

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am I way overstepping by saying something like that.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of different elements to it. But

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and as you know, I used a tarot card just

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clear my mind, just on the radio. But when I

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give a reading to somebody, I give them the feeling

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that I'm getting from them about what their path is,

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because we all have a path that we have decided

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on before we came here. Yeah, and so it's kind

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of like looking back and looking at their pathwork.

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Speaker 2: Okay, move a little closer to that. I don't know

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why your mic is a little soft, but see, okay,

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how's that much better? There we go, all right?

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Speaker 1: So, because I I remember thinking at one point, and

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I don't know why I had these thoughts as because

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they thought, boy, you put your stock in that, and

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they and people would leave a reading or talking to

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someone and they'd almost be angry and they would be

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pissed off and they'd be like, well, and I would think, well,

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hang on a second, I'm not sure that anybody can

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tell you the thing, but they can read your vibration.

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All of life is vibration. Everything is vibration. Everything's vibrating,

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everything is everything. And the way to think about it

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is you can either. And I have become a person

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will always say go for the better feeling thought. I

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feel like the real work in life is not that

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we can get into the grind and the body and

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all that stuff, but the real work in life is

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feeling good.

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Speaker 2: Yes, easier said than done.

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Speaker 1: And I would say to my kids all the time,

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especially one of them, go for the better feeling thought.

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I've stopped saying that so much because you know, to me,

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it's the equivalent of telling.

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Speaker 2: Somebody, well, just be positive.

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Speaker 1: And you can't just be positive, but you can come

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up the emotional scale.

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Speaker 3: I wrote a book, if I can remember the name

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of it. It has to do with pathwork. I was

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going to open up a whole coaching business about helping

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people find their paths. But the problem with pathwork is

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it's not all daisies and roses and cute little animals.

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The things that you planned before you came here to

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this life were supposed to also include challenges so that

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you grew in this life. You're not supposed to just

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be sitting here.

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Speaker 1: Well, I always think that, you know, people think this

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is this is the this will be a weird one.

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Speaker 2: This podcast is going to be a weird.

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Speaker 1: One, and it may be one that you if you

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listen to the whole thing, maybe you'll take some real

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wisdom from it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I hope so.

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Speaker 1: But I do think that you you choose to come, yes,

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and you choose to come and mix it up, and

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contrast is the greatest thing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, know what you want, know what you don't want,

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and that changes sort of throughout life.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I would think that sometimes it's like you're riding

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in a car and for a while that car is great,

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and then your family expands and you need a bigger car,

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and there's nothing wrong with that car.

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Speaker 2: It was the same thing. Now.

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Speaker 1: I have done the thing where I've even equated that

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to relationships and people along the way, and people got

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very offended what I said things like that, But just

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to simplify it that sometimes, yeah, you've taken this as

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far as it can go, and that'll be sort.

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and I'm okay with that. I mean, once in a

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while I go huh. Really, I want to that person

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to stick around, but that's not what the pathwork was

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supposed to be. And so it's sort of hard to

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explain because sometimes you have weird, bad things happening and

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you can't quite wrap your head around that. You put

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that in front of yourself, so you would learn at

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that moment, I don't talk about the negative things. I

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don't talk about negative It's not something that I do.

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so when people come to me for a reading, well,

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first let me say most people come to me to

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talk to dead people, which they hate being called dead

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people because they're not dead. But so I talk to

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people on the other side and if they get if

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that other side tells me something, I will share it.

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recently they just turned bad. I did not like it

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at all, and I got through this whole thing. I

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talked to this woman on zoom, which was really hard

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because she was with her daughter and the camera was

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set up between them, so all I saw was the

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space between them. It was so I don't read body language.

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you want to talk to on the other side is

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whatever her name his name was, And she said, oh,

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my god, yes, exactly, that's who I want to talk to.

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him all this, she goes, well, it was just a

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bunch of garbage and it was nothing, and you should

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not possibly talk to this person again or give her

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any money, et cetera, et cetera. And so I recorded

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the whole thing on the zoom hammer thing. I took

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it down immediately because I didn't want any trouble from

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this man. And I don't understand why she and she

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world that are not going to believe it. I can

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what weird thing they were into? My best story? Can

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I tell my best story?

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Speaker 2: On that one?

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and the man's wife her her mother had passed, and

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tested me like this before. But let's see what happens.

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which is what she said. And the man, who was

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Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, we live in such a

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see it tasted touch it world that and what's become

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a I feel like, almost a buzzword, and I love.

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it's for an insurance company, Progressive, and it's just telling

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you to put your boat in your house and everything

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under one umbrella policy. And it's a guy standing in

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this space and he's and he goes. The woman Progressive

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and he goes, yeah, before it becomes too popular. And

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selfie stick and she goes, you know, she's like, hey, fam,

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want we want to manifest, we want to manifest, and

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Speaker 2: Like you do, you can, it's all possible.

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Speaker 1: But you've got to stop this this You got to

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stop being in reality, which sounds counterintuitive and stupid, but

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it's My point is that where you are right now,

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if it's not where you want to be, you can't

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you can get a little bit closer. And part of

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word positive mindset, but just focusing on the things that

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are going well. Don't focus on the things that are

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going bad. Just focus on what's going well, and then

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you can eventually get there and all of a sudden

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you're It's like being in the zone. If you're an

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athlete and you're in the zone, that's where the good

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you're in the bad mood and you're hiding and you're

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whatever that the ship comes and it feels like a

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ship storm.

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Speaker 3: Well, you said open, but I had opened before. I

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had it before you said, And I was like being

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Speaker 2: Open, zone, be open.

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Speaker 3: To everything, you know, don't follow the badge stuff that

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doesn't feel good. Right, But that triggered another memory. So

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I was telling you how I met Gary here in

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twenty fifteen, your partner, right, my partner, he's gonna kill

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me for seconds, but anyway, and I went down the

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following Saturday to Waterloo to see to me see him. Yeah,

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and I and I got lost on the way and

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then I found myself and then I pulled onto the

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property and I there was like a knoll, and the

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car went up the knoll and I breaked. I've never

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I just stopped, like dead stop because what was in

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front of me was exactly what I had envisioned my

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whole life, every single part of it, from the house

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to the river to the everything was exactly that place

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that I had always envisioned as the place I would

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end up. And there I was. So it was. I

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didn't manifest that because I didn't think about it constantly.

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I didn't do you.

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Speaker 2: Know, fam, hey, fam hey, Well you know.

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Speaker 3: What it was. I was going to I was about

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to before I went on Plenty of Fish. I was

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going to make an altar to try to find my

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new love. And didn't think that was such a great idea,

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so I said, okay, I will I will not do that,

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and I ended up with this beautiful, beautiful vision board

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because I do believe in vision boards. I believe that

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spirit and you and your guide all sit down and

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you get a bunch of magazines or whatever, and you

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cut out what you feel you need to cut out

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and the words, and you make a vision board and

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you put it somewhere where you see it all the time.

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You don't spend your time meditating on it. It just

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pulls in that energy and everything that is on my

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vision board, which I look at every single morning and

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every single night. I'm gonna start it's gonna happen. I'm

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gonna start crying. Is happening because I didn't say this part.

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I didn't know when spirit said I had to come

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and see you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that.

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Speaker 3: They're saying, yes, you did. You just didn't admit it

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to yourself. But it's you that I was going to

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be doing this with you right now.

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Speaker 4: Ye.

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Speaker 2: That that was if you have a message for me

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or something.

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Speaker 3: No, no message right now. We'll see what happened.

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Speaker 1: When when like when you were told to come see me,

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was there a message to give?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you to me? You said, oh, let's do have

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a podcast, and I was like, okay, let's do a podcast.

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But the thing in the law room left right hand corner, Yeah,

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is a woman with dark hair which I used to

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have dark hair, sitting exactly like this in front of

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a microphone. What image in my vision board?

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Speaker 2: In your vision board?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everything that's on the vision board is either happened

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or in process of happening. Yeah, And I mean I

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have the podcast that I already did, Mystic Musings with

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Toby Hewitt. I have I think one hundred and three podcasts.

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Speaker 1: People should go listen to that because they're short, they're

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very short. I would call them bite size.

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Speaker 3: Right, oh, very bite sized time fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's perfect, and it's nice. You get in

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your car and it's some positivity. It's a little different.

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We're in a world where there seems to be a

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lot of discontent and I think that that that's kind

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of a nice thing.

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Speaker 2: It's positive. It was it called.

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Speaker 3: Positive Musings, Yeah, Mystic Music, Mystics Music, Miss Musings with

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Toby Hewitt. Yeah, and it's it's on the podcast places whatever.

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The iTunes thing is Apple and I think it's still

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Spotify and all of those others. And it's also on

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my Facebook channel, which I guess if you look for

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Toby Hewitt you'll find it, or it also has Mystic

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Musings Mystic Musings, yeah, because it's all musings. It's all beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: When did you learn that you had we'll call it

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a gift that you could get messages from people.

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Speaker 3: When I was about three four years old, I had

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an experience that I lived in Schenectady at the time, okay,

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and I had a sandbox in the backyard. Well, I

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had had this thing happen right before that, which I

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call the lightning and brightening, where everything in the backyard

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turned very very bright, like the grease. Everything became like

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squishy bright, just beautifully bright. And this the pine needles

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in the pine trees started making this tinkling sound, and

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everything became golden. And I thought, okay, I didn't think

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because I was three years old.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: And I later found out what that stuff is. It's

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called the chicaina, and that is the female spirit of

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the god okay, the goddess whatever, that's this female god spirit. Anyway,

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So I had I had a sandbox, and one day

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I went into my backyard and there was a man,

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an old man, dapper, very dapper old man, sitting on

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the edge of my sandbox. And I was taught and

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I were to talk to strangers. So I ran and

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got my mother. There was only one gate in and

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out of the backyard. I said, mo, there's somebody in

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my backyard, in our backyard. So she came out. There

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was nobody there and she by this time, she knew

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that I was different. She didn't like different at all.

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She wanted normal. But so afterwards I thought, well, he

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couldn't have climbed over the fence, he couldn't have passed us.

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And then I let it go away. And then a

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little time after that, so still three or four years old,

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there were a bunch of light beings that came into

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my bedroom and that's when they introduced me to Roger,

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who is my spirit guide, my dear friend. And we

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used to live in Dover, England in eighteen hundreds and

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we were involved in psychic phenomenon spirituality, which was I mean,

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you know, the whole spiritual movement was blossoming and the

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Golden Non and William Butler, Yates and Crowley, all these

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people anyway, so we knew them, and so yeah, and

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I guess we decided that I would incarnate this time

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and he would stay on the other side help and

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he has. He's been a great help. And I'm really

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definitely sure he's the one that said, no, I don't

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care if it's raining, you're gonna still go to Fairport.

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So because he would take care of me, I know

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that if he's here, then I just don't have to

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worry about anything. He's always here, right.

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Speaker 2: I know that this stuff to people the go, this

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is nutty, bizarre or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Have you experienced that with people in your own life?

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Have you sort of had trouble with people where you

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don't communicate because of this stuff?

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Speaker 3: My father was a scienti and there was my mother.

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But and my siblings were my siblings, and they all

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think I'm just.

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Speaker 2: That shit crazy batchit crazy, batcha crazy, actually crazy. And

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do they worry about you being batchick?

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Speaker 1: And when you say batshit crazy, do they think you

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should be on medicine or institutional life?

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Speaker 2: The book already, No, I haven't.

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Speaker 3: When I was in for Donia, I went to school

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as a music major in for Donia. That was that

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was a mistake because I hated the piano. Sorry to

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all the pianos, and sorry I hadn't waste of money.

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I called it was a music. What I called it

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eighty eight ways to screw up? And so well this

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goes this ties everything together now. So I had gone

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to lily Dale, which is a wonderful spiritualist community forty

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three miles or so southwest of Buffalo, New York. Which

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I think is a wonderful place to visit. And I

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had my first reading. Okay, and at that time, the

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woman Gladys Dechard she's passed now, gave me a reading

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that was for three years. It was she did do forecasts,

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she was able to do the future. She was amazing. Yeah,

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never had a reading like that ago.

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Speaker 2: But only three years.

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Speaker 3: Well she only went three years because I don't know why. Yeah,

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because by that point the story would have ended there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know. I'm sorry, I'm going back.

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Can I interrupt for a moment of forgive me back

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to the book. I always just wonder, can they see

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the future or is it the path you're on? And

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you get confirmation of this is the right path of

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the wrong path by your vibration.

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Speaker 3: Well possibly this woman took my ring, which is called psychometry,

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and held it and she told me that I was

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about to meet this wonderful man blonde hair, blue eyes,

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and I was going to meet him at the beginning

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of February, and we were going to be engaged by

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May third, and then this was going to happen, and

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that was going to happen, and there was going to

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be breakups and this and that and the other thing,

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and all of which happened. I mean, it was horrendous,

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but we loved each other dearly and we got married

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and then and in the middle of all this, I

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went back and saw her and she said, you know,

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you don't have to follow that path, and I said,

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but I have to know whether you were right.

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Speaker 2: Oh, well, that's your choice.

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Speaker 3: It was my choice. And so we got married and

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like ten weeks later he left. But but he passed

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away a couple.

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Speaker 2: What ten weeks and you scared the guy off badly,

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you know, it was ten weeks and he went, I

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can't fucking handle this bitch.

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Speaker 3: He was just like me.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: He actually did a plexiglass pyramid with a ball with

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a ping pong ball suspended. Uh, And that was to

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get me to do psycho telekinesis and I could make

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it move, so that was fine. We always were doing weird,

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weird We did curly and photography in the bathroom. I mean,

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we were really weird people. But he was also very

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young and immature. So anyway, a few years ago he

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passed away, and I think I told you earlier. I

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like to go and find out, well, are people still

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alive or are they passed over? Because sometimes I can

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hear people. But so he had passed away, and and

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and then he started talking to me. Yeah he had

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before that found my address when I was teaching at

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MCC and he had written he had apologized for everything.

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I mean, he was so remorseful, and I believe him.

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He just didn't you know, he had mental issues and

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all this other stuff. But I think we did love

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each other very deeply. And then probably a few months ago,

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we decided that we were going to write a book together. Okay,

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And so he's on the other side. I'm on this side.

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And when he gave.

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Speaker 1: You, you realize saying that to people, they're going to go,

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what the fuck with this?

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Speaker 2: Bet? She's bet you're crazy.

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Speaker 3: Crazy.

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Speaker 2: Families absolutely got it.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're going to answer the question about the psychiatric

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here in a minute, because well, Roger's helping me remember

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things that you've said. But anyway, he said to me,

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and I don't wish I had I do wish I

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had it here. But it was so beautiful, he said,

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I was conscious the entire time, my spirit was leaving

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my body, and I felt it detached. It was a

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little bit better than that. But it was just so

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it was just so perfect and so beautiful, and I

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was like, okay, that's how the book begins. And so

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I haven't had time. We haven't had time to change.

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You know. We's got kids and everything. But yeah, we're

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going to work on that. Boss he has kids on

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this plane. He has children. Bob has children here, so

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he has to visit his children too, so he can't

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just spend all his time with me. You know, we

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have lives even here or on the other side. So

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I can feel the people listening to me going.

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Speaker 2: This is great, though, this is this is fantastic because

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there's something to all this.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I can't I argue with I don't argue, but

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we have somebody on the podcast who is a devout Christian,

477
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,640
really really and I always say this about religion, the

478
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,480
Ten Commandments, if we all just follow that, it'd be

479
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,960
pretty good, nice, nice place to live. Yeah, people will

480
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,359
get along, we do all that. I have no problem

481
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,480
with the religion. Here's what I don't like. I feel

482
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,720
like religion is controlling. I feel like the message has

483
00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:02,880
been misinterpreted and sometimes on purpose. And I think that

484
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,519
that Jesus was a great teacher. And if I say that,

485
00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:09,200
people could get highly offended because well, he did this,

486
00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:12,319
he did it. But I'm saying I feel like the

487
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,759
message was you are christ Like and if you can

488
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,680
clear your mind, you can do absolutely anything you want.

489
00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: You have all the power.

490
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,279
Speaker 1: And I always say to people like, one of the biggest,

491
00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:27,839
most moving things that happened to me this year was

492
00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:30,559
the eclipse. And I know it was cloudy, and I

493
00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:33,000
know people got pissed and it was ruined. And why

494
00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:35,759
did we, Oh, Rochester, we had a sunny day and

495
00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:37,599
then the day of the eclipse, it's cloudy, and then

496
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,680
we had a snunny day right after that, And what's

497
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,160
the story.

498
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,559
Speaker 2: And I said, here's what.

499
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: I took from it, Toby, And you tell me if

500
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,640
I'm wrong, Okay, I took from it that there's all

501
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,240
this stuff that's happening and you have no control over it,

502
00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:54,759
and you don't need to. We don't truck anything into

503
00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:58,519
this planet. Everything we need is right here, right, Everything

504
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,480
you need is right here. And I don't worry about

505
00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:03,920
the sun rising or the sun setting. I don't go

506
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,279
out and crank up the sun. And you know what

507
00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:08,920
I'm saying, I don't do any of that stuff. Everything

508
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,720
you need is here. Everything you need to be supported

509
00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:13,880
in this life is here. There is such a thing

510
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,880
as unconditional love. You can call it the universe, call

511
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,519
it spirit, call it whatever, call it God, the unconditional love,

512
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:25,319
and you will be unconditionally loved so much that whatever

513
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,960
you believe will be So if you believe that life

514
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,240
is a grind and a struggle, you will be supported

515
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:34,119
and loved unconditionally to the point that it's not going

516
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,200
to interfere with that, if that's what you want to believe.

517
00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:42,680
And really a belief is just a thought you think

518
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,400
over and over. So if you can change the thought

519
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,720
and realize that if you put a little energy and

520
00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:51,359
focus into things that you love to do and be

521
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:54,960
happy and feel good, everything gets better. You know, you

522
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,519
could have three things going shitty and one going great,

523
00:27:58,519 --> 00:28:00,720
focus on the one that's going great, other three shitty

524
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,440
things rise have one going bad and three going great.

525
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,240
Focus on the shitty thing. Everything falls apart. So there

526
00:28:06,319 --> 00:28:08,160
is a little bit of stuff to this, And I

527
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,559
know that it sounds weird, but if you look back,

528
00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:14,000
even at Einstein or Tesla, they kind of knew this

529
00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:16,839
shit and they tried to tell you, and nobody wanted

530
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:17,319
to listen.

531
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,799
Speaker 3: Nobody listened my by bye because obviously it was going

532
00:28:21,839 --> 00:28:24,119
to be cloudy, nobody. Do you think it was going

533
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:32,920
to be slident? But uh, for me, it wasn't the

534
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,880
idea of the eclipse itself. It was what happens during

535
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,119
the eclipse. That was the magic. It was when it

536
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,599
went silent, yeah, and the birds went yeah, and everybody

537
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,519
went silent and it and just listening. There's not that

538
00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:54,559
level of silence doesn't exist, no, except when that happens,

539
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,839
I mean in nature. So to me, that was just

540
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,319
the mystical, magical, wonderful part of the whole. Unfortunately, we

541
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,720
had campers because we have a what's it called a

542
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:09,359
RV No no, no, we have a marina with boats

543
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:11,319
and everything, and they were visiting and they were making

544
00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:14,279
noise and I was like, I walked over and I

545
00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:17,039
never do that. You will not be quiet, Like that's

546
00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:18,599
what we're going to do. We're gonna be quiet and

547
00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:23,559
enjoy this. So yeah, that that that was my story there.

548
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:29,359
But when it comes to what we were talking about before, oh,

549
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,079
crazy people. And by the way, we're talking about people

550
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,160
that go and I have a friend who's about to

551
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:41,720
go in for psychiatric care, and which.

552
00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:43,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to make light of it anyway, I

553
00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:44,519
certain no no.

554
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: No, no no, But anyway, the problem with mental mental

555
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:53,400
hospitals and psychiatric places is that people who hear voices

556
00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:01,039
are often put in them, but well, nobody ever asks

557
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,599
if nobody ever takes the time to find out whether

558
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,240
the voice is saying something that is actually pertinent or

559
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:12,400
it's really there. Is there really a voice or is

560
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,119
it just in your head? And if it's just in

561
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,119
your head, is it still something that isn't psychiatric based

562
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:20,559
but spiritually based? And I think there's a lot of

563
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:24,279
people in psychiatric hospitals that have nothing wrong with them

564
00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:25,319
except that they're psychic.

565
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah you do, but you believe that, like they're just

566
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,920
tuned in and tending very very bright.

567
00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: They're very like I'm you know, I can listen to

568
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,759
I can listen to to uh, Roger, He's talking at

569
00:30:39,759 --> 00:30:41,440
the same time I'm thinking. So it makes it hard.

570
00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:44,680
Sometimes I can listen to Roger and he doesn't sound

571
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,000
like you or me talking right now, but it's definitely words.

572
00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:52,920
There's like whole sentences and thoughts and see I told

573
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,960
you to come here today. Yes, okay and edited again.

574
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,000
Uh oh, the psychic part of the whole thing. So

575
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:03,839
we were in for Dounia. Bob and me and a

576
00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:07,279
couple of other people were working in a paranormal group

577
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,240
at the college, and we got into our heads to invite.

578
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:14,720
We had a school called them the Normal School the

579
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:17,519
Normal Schools of the precursors for the State University of

580
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,440
New York system, and they were teached schools for teaching

581
00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:26,400
women to teach. And it had a really big bad

582
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,359
fire which killed six girls and a janitor and back

583
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,039
like in the early like nineteen one hundred or something,

584
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:42,039
and people had heard voices, I heard heard choir. I mean,

585
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:44,440
there's a lot of weird stuff going on in that building.

586
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,440
Because these were ghosts, which are different than spirit. Ghosts

587
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:52,920
are portions of a spirit that are sort of left

588
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,000
behind because either it was a tragic thing that they

589
00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:03,039
passed five or whatever. They definitely didn't keep with the

590
00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:05,119
rest of their spirits. So they're like a memory, they're

591
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,640
like an imprint, and sometimes they just don't want to leave.

592
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:12,839
That doesn't happen too often. People normally know they should go.

593
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,119
But anyway, so this this building was definitely haunted. And

594
00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:20,000
have you ever heard of the Amityville Horror? Yeah, okay,

595
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,759
So the people that worked on that were Edwon Lorraine Warren,

596
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,000
and so we're crazy. So we called them and said,

597
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,759
you want to come and see something really interesting, more

598
00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:34,319
interesting than amity don't can say that. So Ed Lorraine

599
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:37,599
came and we became really good friends. And because this

600
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,680
is going to sound egatistical, but it's sort of like

601
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:43,319
they chose me to go with the photographer and everything

602
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:45,200
else because they could see that I was the one

603
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,839
most open to the vibrations.

604
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,799
Speaker 2: But these are all dead people. You're talking about ghosts.

605
00:32:53,119 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: Okay, ghosts people would, but the bodies were dead.

606
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: The people who.

607
00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: From the Amityville Horror they came, they were passed though

608
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,960
they were here.

609
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: They were the psyche. Yet they were the psyche. They

610
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,799
were the paranormal investigators. They also worked off, sorry, they

611
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:09,759
also worked.

612
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: On So these are real people.

613
00:33:11,319 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: These are real people that we can see and I

614
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,920
could touch them and hug them.

615
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, good huggers.

616
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,839
Speaker 3: And they actually did some stuff with that other one,

617
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,240
the exorcist thing, which is why I say, never ever,

618
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,599
ever ever touch Aluigi board. It's not worth the effort

619
00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:34,559
come see a psychic anyway, So we went through the

620
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:37,039
whole building, and the nice thing to do when you

621
00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:41,119
do a paranormal investigation is to release the ghosts, okay,

622
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,359
and so to tell them that they are now no

623
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,400
longer ghosts, they're no longer spirits or people. They are

624
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,359
they gotta go. Oh there was a janitor too when

625
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,160
we were in there, and he said to one group member,

626
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,319
I see you are here, and it's like clear as

627
00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:58,200
I'm talking to you. So all this stuff was happening,

628
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,640
and we released them. But we hadn't looked any information

629
00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:06,279
up before we did the investigation. So we went I

630
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:14,840
went to the Historical Society and every person picture the

631
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,280
story had been in the papers and everything else. Their

632
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,800
pictures were exactly what they looked like as ghosts in

633
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,280
the Okay you see what I'm saying. So it you know,

634
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:29,840
it gave me yeah, okay, confirmation. Well yeah, but the

635
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:35,480
unfortunate part of all this is that I wrote a

636
00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:37,719
piece about it and it got picked up by the

637
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,280
Dunkirk Observer and then it got picked up I think

638
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:46,760
by the DNC in Rochester and my mother saw it.

639
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,599
Oh yeah, and so she said if you expect to

640
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:55,800
come back into this house, you have to go to

641
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:02,159
the psychiatrist. Okay, So she took me to her choice

642
00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:04,199
of psychiatrists.

643
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: So you're a college student, I'm a college student. I

644
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,599
think it was ninety under the roof.

645
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,519
Speaker 3: Still well still yeah, well, you know, a bad seat.

646
00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:16,119
I fell in love with a guy in college anyway,

647
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,239
and I was crazy, you know that shit crazy. So

648
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,039
so I went to see the psychiatrist and he said,

649
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:26,880
you know, do you do you see ghosts? And I

650
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,320
said yeah. And he said you know, do they talk

651
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,719
to you? And I said yeah. And and so he

652
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,960
put me on this little blue pill that was supposed

653
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,000
to sort of tamp all that awareness down in me

654
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,719
and killed every emotion I had everything. So for three

655
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:50,159
weeks I felt literally nothing. And Roger said, okay, we're

656
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:51,159
done with this program.

657
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: What was the what was do you remember the medicine?

658
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: It was a blue triangle. I remember that. I won't

659
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,800
I don't take anything that's blue. An it wouldn't take anything.

660
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:03,480
Don't give me a tick tag with But yeah, it

661
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:08,519
was a very bad situation. And and I just went

662
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:10,400
back to Fredonia. I just said, you know, screw it,

663
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,239
I'm not going to stay here. So I went back

664
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:18,159
there and the rest of the predictions whatever played out,

665
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:19,719
and then I had to move home because I had

666
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,639
nowhere else to go. And then I went to Brockport

667
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,679
and became an English major twice over, and then went

668
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,320
to Brooklyn College and became an MFA and studied with

669
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,800
Alan Ginsburg. Okay, that's only for the nerds in the audience, goes,

670
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,400
who knows who Allen Ginsburg is? He was like one

671
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,480
of the original beat poets of the fifties and he

672
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:39,360
was a whack job.

673
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,199
Speaker 1: Okay, So but then what happens with the family with

674
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,840
mom when you stopped taking it? So do you tell

675
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,599
her yourself? No, of course not.

676
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 2: But does she.

677
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: I think that the span of time between that and

678
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,119
when Bob left me was enough that they had to

679
00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:04,679
take pity on me and let me come back, and

680
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:13,239
so that's what they did. And then I'm getting fed

681
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,800
stories that I should say. So I'm kind of listening

682
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,719
to him and talking about Okay. So so Roger says,

683
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,960
we'll tell him about Johnny Hart and I'm like, okay. So,

684
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,559
while I'm still in for Dounia, I get this terrible

685
00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:25,559
stomach ache and I'm telling Bob takes me to the

686
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:27,320
hospital to see what they can do, what the heck

687
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:32,480
it is, and I uh. They put me in the

688
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:34,840
emergency room, but it was like it had a screen

689
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,280
between us, so they could have two people at the

690
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,679
same time. It's Dunkirk Hospital, Come on, people, and nothing

691
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,519
against Dunkirk Hospital. I'm sure they're a lovely, lovely place. Now.

692
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,760
So I'm lying there and suddenly there's a big commotion

693
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,360
and they roll in this guy with the only thing

694
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,880
I saw was his knee, which looked like a forty

695
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,840
five degree angle had been taken out of it, and

696
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,719
they're draining his lune hungs onto my side of the curtain,

697
00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:06,480
at which point they thought, oh, there's somebody else here,

698
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,280
so they rolled they took me out, and I sat

699
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,760
in the lobby and they brought him back, brought him

700
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:18,039
through the lobby and then the waiting room and to

701
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:21,360
take him to the hospital in Buffalo. They didn't make

702
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:28,079
it that far and they took brought him back and covered.

703
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,719
So this was very emotional to me, and I looked

704
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,840
him up the next day. I found out that his

705
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,920
name was Johnny Hart, John E. Hart. He was nineteen,

706
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,039
which is my age. He had been hit by a

707
00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:45,400
He was right walking along the side of the road

708
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,599
and he got hit by a drunk driver, and so

709
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,719
it was just it was not a good moment. I

710
00:38:54,039 --> 00:38:56,360
ween it was a good moment because I knew that

711
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,719
I had sent him energy when he left, but I

712
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,760
was like, I felt so bad. Then I get home

713
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,599
because my father came to get me to have more

714
00:39:04,639 --> 00:39:06,360
tests done to find out what the heck's wrong with

715
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,559
his you know, that shit crazy daughter. But and I'm

716
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:12,880
lying in my bedroom and the dog is on the

717
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,199
other side of the closed door, and suddenly the dog

718
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,199
starts baying and I kind of wake up, and there

719
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,400
is a gelatinous gray cloud that is forming at the

720
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:27,239
end of my bed, and I can hear him say,

721
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,079
it's me, It's John. I'm okay. But I wanted to

722
00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:34,119
stop before I left and let you know I'm okay.

723
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,360
It dissipated. Yeah, And that's one of the that's the

724
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,800
one I feel so like strongly because it was so

725
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,480
beautiful that somebody would think to stop and say something

726
00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:47,199
to me, you.

727
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: Know, that's but the the uh but you say that

728
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,679
to people, yeah, and they go that shit crazy.

729
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,639
Speaker 3: Normally I don't pillar or cereal, damn it.

730
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,199
Speaker 2: Put it in some peanut butter and run at the

731
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,639
bottom of her throat like you do a dog. Get

732
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:07,440
that fucking telling her that's what they do.

733
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 3: That's what they that's what they do.

734
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: Do you think.

735
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 3: No, I've had so much confirmation in my life of

736
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,960
what I do between the readings that I give when

737
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,440
I give a presentation. We were talking about giving speeches.

738
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,559
I want to go back to giving speeches. Well, people

739
00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:27,400
want me to go back and give speeches about, you know,

740
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,320
what my life is like and what they can do,

741
00:40:29,559 --> 00:40:34,760
how they can learn, and and at the end of

742
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,119
the end, I give a few readings and I nail them.

743
00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:41,760
I mean, it's not like you know, because I just

744
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,800
don't go. I see when we go to lily DALEESO

745
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,800
times when my kids were little and we would sit

746
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,320
there and listen to the people. The old ladies give

747
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,800
readings from the front of the auditorium and it would

748
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,840
be useless. And we came up with we see you

749
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:03,679
have a mother, Yeah, she's older than you, right, And

750
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,119
that's the kind of level that these people gave. And

751
00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:08,159
I said, I never want to do that. I never

752
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,239
ever want to give that if I can't come up

753
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,519
with something really if I don't come up with something

754
00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:17,719
really specific in the first ten minutes, I'm not charging anybody.

755
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,199
I don't care. I don't want to talk. If you couldn't, well,

756
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,719
sometimes they get like, I don't know why people don't

757
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,199
bring people when they're coming to talk to a medium

758
00:41:26,199 --> 00:41:28,480
and not ask their people on the other side to come.

759
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:32,079
It's a waste of my time. But sometimes I get lucky,

760
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:34,480
Like one woman, she sat down and she said, and

761
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,320
she was going to try to be a little stoic,

762
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,079
and I just sat down and goes, Tim's here, and

763
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:42,639
she burst into tears because that's the exact person she

764
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:46,159
wanted to talk to. Because after a while, when you

765
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:49,519
have enough empiric evidence, yeah, what do you do? What

766
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:50,599
the heck do you do?

767
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I've also been a believer in what

768
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,960
other people's think of you is none of your business,

769
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:03,199
which again is easier said than done, because you don't

770
00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:05,320
want to get caught up in the in the drama

771
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,360
of it, because it takes you off course, and it

772
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,159
takes you off whatever your path is. I certainly you

773
00:42:11,199 --> 00:42:13,880
know if this is if you get the messages and things.

774
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: I think everybody's got.

775
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:18,159
Speaker 1: A little bit of this in them, and I think

776
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:20,559
a lot of times, you know, we can call it intuition,

777
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,119
but you're being guided in some way and protected in

778
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:26,400
a way, and you know, and then people go, well,

779
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,199
why does all this bad stuff happen in parts of

780
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,679
the world and how come this? And I can never

781
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,719
come up an answer, you know, come up with an

782
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,000
answer that people would like. But why don't we pause

783
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:39,079
for just a second and I have a question for you?

784
00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:44,079
But I can slide in, Well, I'll tell people about

785
00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:47,920
Iron Smoke Distillery. Hold on one second, Iron Smoke Distillery

786
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,920
in Fairport, New York. You know, as the weather cools down,

787
00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:54,519
it's nice to have a delicious bottle of bourbon that

788
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:57,519
you can just pop open poor and sit back and

789
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,599
feel all the troubles in your life just melt away.

790
00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: Tell them, Billify says.

791
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:06,599
Speaker 1: Iron Smoke helps melt away those troubles because it does.

792
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:11,000
It's delicious, it's award winning, and it's made here in Fairport.

793
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,639
And the cool thing about Tommy Burnett and the crew

794
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,199
over at Iron Smoke Distillery that includes his beautiful wife Jen,

795
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:23,079
is they're all about local. So here's what I would say,

796
00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:29,119
go to your favorite liquor store and buy your Iron

797
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:32,119
Smoke products there because they benefit you.

798
00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 2: Know, and it's keeping it local.

799
00:43:33,519 --> 00:43:36,039
Speaker 1: Just just a thought, and then you know what, why

800
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:38,039
not go into Iron Smoke for some other fun things.

801
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,239
They always have a great lineup. You can go to

802
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,559
Iron Smoke Distillery dot com, click on the calendar you'll

803
00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:45,320
see that Friday night we have the Acoustic Sunset Sessions

804
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,199
to begin at five and it'll be Griffin Weigel. Always

805
00:43:48,199 --> 00:43:50,840
a lot of energy, fun, upbeat. You're just gonna like it,

806
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,400
playing original rock music and covers of your favorite favorite music.

807
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,280
And then Audible Friday Night at eight thirty takes the

808
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,960
stage and that is always a black. The party is

809
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,719
in one place, Iron Smoke Distillery. No matter what the weather,

810
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,119
they're having a good time in there.

811
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 2: It's like you got taken with a feather.

812
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,159
Speaker 1: Never mind, Iron Smoke Distillery, Fairport, New York. Baby, are

813
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:16,800
you familiar with circul Law. At Circulaw, their foundation lies

814
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,239
in the belief that everyone deserves a fair defense, which

815
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,119
is very important to our legal process. Steve Circu and

816
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:26,559
his team tirelessly strive to ensure that their client's rights

817
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:30,239
are protected and they leave no stone unturned in building.

818
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: A robust case.

819
00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:34,119
Speaker 1: Whether you or a loved one is facing a DWI

820
00:44:34,559 --> 00:44:37,280
or possibly accused of a crime you didn't knowingly commit,

821
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:40,719
circu Law will defend your rights and personal freedoms. Look,

822
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they've litigated criminal cases of every scenario. Simple misdemeanors, they've

823
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:49,280
handled it. Serious felony offenses handled that as well. And

824
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,079
at Circulaw they believe preparation is key and make sure

825
00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:55,760
to thoroughly prepare for every possible scenario. So again, if

826
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,800
you've been charged with a crime and need a defense

827
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,159
attorney with integrity and experience both in an out out

828
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:03,400
of the courtroom, there is none better than Steve Cercu

829
00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:06,320
and the team at circul Law. Tell them Billified told

830
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,719
you to call five eight five three eight five twenty

831
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,719
five ten, or you can email their secure contact page

832
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,000
at circulaw dot com. Make sure your rights are protected

833
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,679
with circul Law. Cobblestone on Maine at one on nine

834
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,320
West Main Street is a place to take your taste

835
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,000
buds on a culinary adventure because the preparation style of

836
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:28,719
all your favorite meals changes weekly. For example, it's date night,

837
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,280
you go into cobblestone on Maine. You see the beautifully

838
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,679
prepared fourteen ounce premium reserved bone in pork chop be

839
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,280
delivered to a table next to you.

840
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: You say, ooh, that looks good. I'll have it.

841
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,159
Speaker 1: Let's say you go back two weeks later have that

842
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,840
same fourteen ounce premium reserve bone in pork chop, but

843
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,719
this time it'll be prepared differently, So savor the flavors

844
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,239
and then let them know what twist on the pork chop.

845
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,639
For example, you like the best cobblestone on Maine where

846
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,239
you can take your taste buds on a culinary adventure,

847
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:03,840
your loved one on the perfect date, and yourself to

848
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:06,960
just unwind. One on nine West Main Street in the

849
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:08,199
village of Webster.

850
00:46:19,519 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 4: I am one region can be.

851
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: You love this song.

852
00:46:26,559 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 3: I love it.

853
00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: I'm just really listened to the words.

854
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:40,639
Speaker 4: It depends in ending on frown the blank page before

855
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,480
you open up the dirty window, the sun loom, and may.

856
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 2: The worst that you cannot find, rage.

857
00:46:48,599 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 4: Or something ever distance of close you can almost taste

858
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,840
to release your innimition, feel the rain on yours. No

859
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,920
one else can feel it for your.

860
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what I was gonna ask is that everything

861
00:47:08,519 --> 00:47:14,320
that happens to you is your fault. Would you agree

862
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,519
with that or disagree with that? Like everything, even the

863
00:47:16,559 --> 00:47:19,239
things that we think are like bad, that that there's

864
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,119
really no assertion nobody's doing anything to you in some

865
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,559
way whatever has happened, even if if you look upon

866
00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:30,440
it as a negative thing, that in some way you

867
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,199
did something in your vibration that that caused this to happen.

868
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:38,000
I find somewhat comfort in that. I don't know if

869
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,679
most people would, because what the fuck are you saying it?

870
00:47:41,159 --> 00:47:45,760
But I sometimes think like you had a hand in something,

871
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,639
your vibration, something that you did. You're on some odd thing,

872
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,880
and maybe it's a way for you to try to

873
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,360
fix the way you think, the way you operate. I

874
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,119
don't know, do you do you agree with that or

875
00:47:59,119 --> 00:47:59,880
you disagree with that?

876
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,639
Speaker 3: I think does.

877
00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:05,159
Speaker 1: Roger disagree with that? I don't mean that to be funny.

878
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,159
I mean that's that sounds crazy.

879
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:17,119
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm well, I came here, it's the how do

880
00:48:17,199 --> 00:48:22,079
I put this? It's pathwork. It's all pathwork. When you're born, Okay,

881
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:25,280
before you're born, there's a little power that goes on

882
00:48:25,519 --> 00:48:26,960
and you talk about what you want to learn on

883
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,840
the other side, which is a side, and then you're born,

884
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,559
and for the first year or so, you're kind of

885
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:38,760
between times because you can remember who you were, you

886
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,039
can remember what you're supposed to be doing. But then

887
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,119
you have to learn about moving and words and all

888
00:48:46,159 --> 00:48:47,800
sorts of stuff, and that just takes it all away

889
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,519
from you. Because the minute you start learning the physical

890
00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:55,679
world stuff, the spiritual world just you know, goes away

891
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,679
a little bit. But then there are those of us

892
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,639
who are really weird. What was the question, Oh, so

893
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,360
while we're on the other side, we make all these

894
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,400
plans that we're going to go through everything that I

895
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,400
went through with Bob, it was I opened myself up

896
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:12,840
to that experience because I know that was an experience

897
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,000
that I didn't really have before, and I wanted to

898
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:23,599
add it to the repertoire. And then you just, how

899
00:49:23,639 --> 00:49:28,880
do I put this. It's not that you bring negativity

900
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:35,320
towards you. It's just that this situation fulfills the need

901
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:42,280
for that experience that you need to learn from. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

902
00:49:42,679 --> 00:49:43,639
So it's not like.

903
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:45,639
Speaker 2: An experience that you need to learn from.

904
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 3: Learn from this that others need to learn from. By

905
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,239
your experience of it. Thank you, that was a little extra.

906
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:54,679
Speaker 1: So do you ever think that, because I always go,

907
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,599
but do you ever get it wrong? Here's what I believe.

908
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,440
I believe you never get it wrong and you never

909
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,079
get it done. That everything has happened that no matter

910
00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:04,800
what it was. And we can look at it in

911
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,880
the in the reality world of well, that was a

912
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,920
mistake or that was bad, or this was wrong, or

913
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,280
this was that. But but if you step back, you go, well,

914
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:17,880
none of it, nothing serious going on to a certain degree,

915
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,000
and you never get it necessarily wrong. You just learn

916
00:50:21,079 --> 00:50:23,880
from the contrast of it, and you never get it done,

917
00:50:24,159 --> 00:50:28,079
and you're the greatest thing is like, I believe that

918
00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:32,039
life has no meaning other than the meaning you apply

919
00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:32,440
to it.

920
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 3: What do you think of that, Well, it depends on

921
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:37,480
how you define life.

922
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: Well, this life, this life, this life, physical life, has

923
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:42,760
no meaning.

924
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 3: This physical life.

925
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 2: But the meaning you give it, Yeah, is not it?

926
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,639
Speaker 3: The other side is it? This is the illusion. We

927
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,639
are on this side to gain experiences, knowledge, whatever, to

928
00:50:54,639 --> 00:50:56,800
take back to the other side. The other side is

929
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,400
the real side. This is not this is the illusions side.

930
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,639
And people get wrapped up in that because.

931
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,519
Speaker 2: Well see, because this is all we can see, taste,

932
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:05,840
or touch.

933
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: And this is what what Toby's saying is is a

934
00:51:09,519 --> 00:51:13,639
very metaphysical, uh, philosophy that a lot of people have,

935
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,559
that there is no time, that it's all happened, that

936
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:18,840
everything's happening at once, and any memory you have is

937
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,760
looking at the now from a different perspective, and that

938
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,880
that it's all done. And you know, and uh, it

939
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,079
sounds weird. But sometimes if you if you kind of go, well,

940
00:51:28,119 --> 00:51:30,719
that sounds fucked up, and you guys are batshit crazy.

941
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,519
But if you sort of let go and let things be,

942
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,719
you're how how often are you better off? Think of

943
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,840
the relief you have when let's say you're strapped for

944
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,880
money and a check shows up in your mailbox and

945
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,519
then all of a sudden you're like, oh, and everything

946
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:48,519
feels better, your food tastes better, and.

947
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:50,519
Speaker 2: Every right, it's just easier.

948
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: Just you gotta find that ease and flow in this

949
00:51:54,519 --> 00:51:56,559
life because it doesn't.

950
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: Need to be a struggle. It wasn't meant to be

951
00:51:58,039 --> 00:51:58,599
a struggle.

952
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: You weren't meant by way, I have to say this too,

953
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,079
You're not meant to sacrifice. There isn't a god that

954
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:07,880
you need to sacrifice for or be things.

955
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: That's not loving, that's not loving, that's not what that is, you.

956
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,599
Speaker 1: Know, way you need to sacrifice forward, you know, suffer

957
00:52:15,639 --> 00:52:18,440
and all that there isn't that that is all complete

958
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,079
and utter bullshit that you have been taught and shove

959
00:52:21,159 --> 00:52:23,280
down your throat and it's wrong and it's the wrong

960
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:23,719
way to live.

961
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: And it was it was never the message. It was

962
00:52:26,039 --> 00:52:26,519
never right.

963
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:28,599
Speaker 1: And maybe you think I'm bad, shit crazy too, but

964
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:29,679
thank you for listening.

965
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:37,039
Speaker 3: That's why we're friends. But sometimes the struggle is the lesson.

966
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:39,440
So let's look at this from another way, Like right now,

967
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,480
I'm going back into training to be fit, okay, because

968
00:52:42,519 --> 00:52:46,119
fit is better than not fit. Yes, And also if

969
00:52:46,159 --> 00:52:48,320
I'm standing up on the stage, I don't want people

970
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,480
looking at an extra role. I want them to be

971
00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:54,480
looking at me and the spirit around me. So you know,

972
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,960
is it a struggle. Yeah, sometimes it is to get

973
00:52:57,039 --> 00:52:59,920
up and get on the rolling machine. But it ends

974
00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:05,719
up well, I think, and we bring it upon ourselves

975
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,719
as a lesson because there is nothing about this side.

976
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,199
It's not really this side, this aspect that has anything

977
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:19,280
to do other than learning nothing. There's nothing. Everything you

978
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,280
go through is, and that the world goes through, which

979
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,960
is the part I have the hardest time with. But

980
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:29,719
everything is a lesson, and sometimes the lesson has to

981
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:40,840
keep being repeated because new people enter the stage and

982
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,159
decide that they need to mess it up more, and

983
00:53:44,199 --> 00:53:50,039
so the struggle becomes more pronounced and slightly more angular

984
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,960
and more uncomfortable. But so now then, what are we doing?

985
00:53:55,039 --> 00:53:58,480
We are here as observers. It's not us that are struggling.

986
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:01,559
It is other people who are struggling, and we're observing

987
00:54:01,559 --> 00:54:05,880
their struggle. And at that point you just have to

988
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,519
send a lot of love to a lot of people

989
00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:12,360
you don't like, let me give you and just send

990
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,039
a lot.

991
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 1: Of Well, here's what I in this physical and I

992
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,880
feel like it's exactly what you're saying. I think the

993
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,519
harder you push against something, the more you get of it.

994
00:54:25,079 --> 00:54:29,880
And the reason is law of attraction. And you start thinking, thinking, thinking,

995
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,079
and you hold on to it. And if you think

996
00:54:32,119 --> 00:54:34,360
of the things that we talk about, the war on

997
00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:36,840
the war on drugs, the war on this, have we

998
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,880
ever solved the drug problem?

999
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: No?

1000
00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:42,559
Speaker 1: And man has been trying to get inebriated, probably to

1001
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,960
feel more spiritual from the time they came on the planet. Right,

1002
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:50,639
But every time there's something pushed against, you know, whether

1003
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:54,320
it be we have an election coming up, pushing against somebody,

1004
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:59,800
pushing against a candidate, there's always that there's resistance anger, Right,

1005
00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:02,400
you get more of it, It gets bigger and comes

1006
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,119
back and bigger and bigger because that's what you're thinking of.

1007
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,800
You know, you have a problem if you if it's

1008
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,119
lack of something, lack of love, lack of money, lack

1009
00:55:11,159 --> 00:55:14,039
of whatever you think that way, you get more of

1010
00:55:14,039 --> 00:55:17,079
that lack. Yes, because the universe doesn't know one way

1011
00:55:17,159 --> 00:55:20,360
or the other. It has no it's neutral, it's neutral.

1012
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,440
Whatever you're thinking, you get more of. And so whatever

1013
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,519
you're pushing against and you're fighting. And that's why I

1014
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,119
don't like words like when I hear people saying things like, uh,

1015
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,920
they're battling cancer. They're no, they're living with cancer, because

1016
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,360
that's a better word. And I know that again, maybe

1017
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,800
it's batshit crazy. That's what I'm gonna call this episode,

1018
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,480
batshit crazy good.

1019
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 3: I want to be known by that, not the peace

1020
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,320
love check or anything.

1021
00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:50,119
Speaker 2: I mean. But my point is that that.

1022
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: When the words have meaning and you and the meaning

1023
00:55:54,639 --> 00:55:56,880
is the meaning you apply to it. So when we

1024
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,960
apply fight, who doesn't know what that means? And how

1025
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:01,039
does it make you feel?

1026
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:01,559
Speaker 2: Right?

1027
00:56:01,639 --> 00:56:04,039
Speaker 1: We're fighting, and you know, I got a battle against

1028
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:06,119
this and I got a blah blah blah. That was

1029
00:56:06,119 --> 00:56:09,639
my entire life. My entire life was that way, and

1030
00:56:09,679 --> 00:56:13,760
it never felt great. Once you could get you'll get

1031
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,519
to where you want to be by putting in the

1032
00:56:15,519 --> 00:56:17,519
grind and doing the stuff. But you could make it

1033
00:56:17,519 --> 00:56:19,199
a whole lot easier if you just kind of went,

1034
00:56:19,519 --> 00:56:21,480
I'm going to do this and I'm going to enjoy it.

1035
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,039
It's a journey, and I chose to be here, and

1036
00:56:24,119 --> 00:56:26,039
I'm chose to be on this journey and I'm going

1037
00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:28,360
to do it well. And anything that's coming your way

1038
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,519
somehow you had a hand in it. And believe me,

1039
00:56:32,599 --> 00:56:34,519
I've had a lot of ugly shit happened to me.

1040
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,239
And I want to say, well, that wasn't my fault,

1041
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,559
it's their fault, but it's not.

1042
00:56:39,159 --> 00:56:40,039
Speaker 2: It's your fault.

1043
00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: But it's also fault. Well not say not fault, but

1044
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,960
maybe it's a redirection. You need to be over here.

1045
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,199
This is the path.

1046
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 2: Exactly, This is the path.

1047
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 3: So when we start this is something I was going

1048
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,920
to say earlier. So when we release all the negativity,

1049
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,199
because we are in charge of the negativity and the positivity,

1050
00:56:56,599 --> 00:56:59,960
when we release the negativity and allow it to flow

1051
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:03,719
away from us, we create a space of the positive

1052
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:09,480
flowing towards us. Yes, that's so matter how bad it seems,

1053
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,440
just I hate this time. I just let it go.

1054
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 2: But let it go, let it go.

1055
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:17,599
Speaker 1: We've had we've had children's songs, let it go, let

1056
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:20,440
it go, let it go. It's been said in the

1057
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,960
you know, people say let go and let God. I'm

1058
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,159
just saying that the universe is going to support you.

1059
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,159
God is going to support you if you want to

1060
00:57:28,159 --> 00:57:33,599
believe that. That's a more palpable word for you. Uh, palatable

1061
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,719
is what I was thinking of your taste, but palpable

1062
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,280
was what I can taste. Palatable would be Yes, I'm thanking.

1063
00:57:43,079 --> 00:57:46,559
It's wonderful, but a more palatable word. If it's God,

1064
00:57:46,599 --> 00:57:49,519
it's going to support you in whatever you believe, because

1065
00:57:49,559 --> 00:57:52,360
there is unconditional love, which I don't think humans are

1066
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,639
capable of, but unconditionally Yeah. And you want to know something,

1067
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,440
I think that sometimes when we have people who have

1068
00:57:59,559 --> 00:58:03,960
mental disabilities or a word that is not very popular anymore,

1069
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:05,760
is retardation and people get you.

1070
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,119
Speaker 2: Know, they don't want to. But why would I have

1071
00:58:08,199 --> 00:58:09,119
someone like that in my.

1072
00:58:09,079 --> 00:58:12,599
Speaker 1: Life Because they're the closest thing to conditional love and

1073
00:58:12,679 --> 00:58:15,400
you need to know about it, right, And even that

1074
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,079
maybe sound fucking batshit crazy to you, No, it is

1075
00:58:18,239 --> 00:58:21,599
that I'm just these are the things that I'm seeing

1076
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:24,920
and I'm realizing as I get older and further on

1077
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,719
this journey. Is I go, you have a lot of

1078
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,599
control here, and it's all your choice, and it all

1079
00:58:30,639 --> 00:58:33,559
starts up here, and it's all the vibration you're putting out.

1080
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know somebody who has some severe I think

1081
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:43,840
there's severe mental issues, mental and emotional issues, perfectly lovely

1082
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,199
human being, et cetera. But you don't know at what

1083
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,199
moment they are experiencing the reality differently than you are. Yeah,

1084
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:55,599
And it's taken me a long time to realize that

1085
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,360
there's nothing I did, there's nothing I can do, and

1086
00:58:59,519 --> 00:59:03,119
this person is just in this other cell of reality

1087
00:59:03,159 --> 00:59:06,519
at this moment and it's not part of my experience

1088
00:59:06,599 --> 00:59:11,360
except to release any negativity I might have towards that

1089
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,159
moment in that person's life, Right, Yeah.

1090
00:59:15,079 --> 00:59:18,719
Speaker 1: I and again, look, all this stuff may sound a

1091
00:59:18,719 --> 00:59:21,760
little crazy to you, but think of yourself. When you're

1092
00:59:22,039 --> 00:59:25,159
feeling great, things start to go great for you. When

1093
00:59:25,199 --> 00:59:27,199
you're feeling negative, you get more of it. Wake up

1094
00:59:27,199 --> 00:59:30,239
in the morning and stub your toe and you know,

1095
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:33,920
say a curse word and start thinking God damn it.

1096
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,559
By the next thing you know, you're spilling hot coffee

1097
00:59:36,599 --> 00:59:39,840
and on yourself and you're screeching on your brakes as

1098
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,119
you bump into the person in front of you, or

1099
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,599
take it as a oh, I'm on the wrong thing here,

1100
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,880
and that may sound crazy to you, but you bump

1101
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,880
your toe and you go, oh, all right, I got it,

1102
00:59:51,039 --> 00:59:53,199
I'm gonna and then all that other shit doesn't happen.

1103
00:59:53,239 --> 00:59:56,880
I'm just saying there are ways to change your vibration,

1104
00:59:57,079 --> 01:00:00,400
your state, your yes, yes you can.

1105
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,199
Speaker 2: Look, there are teachers who say this stuff all the time.

1106
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: I think Dan, who's on the podcast, will quote Tony Robbins.

1107
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,400
I'm not a but but but same things. Change your state,

1108
01:00:11,559 --> 01:00:13,960
change your status with Dan will say, and I'll go, yeah,

1109
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:16,159
same thing, change your mind, change your vibration.

1110
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 3: I used to have a problem for well, no, I

1111
01:00:19,039 --> 01:00:22,719
had a problem for a while because I lived in

1112
01:00:22,719 --> 01:00:26,679
a community where it was all God all the time, and.

1113
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: But I can't with like this vengeful, angry God that

1114
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:33,360
was gonna punish you and look down on you, and

1115
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,960
if you're gonna go blind, if you masturbated, and if

1116
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,960
you'd stole a cookie from the cookie jar, and you

1117
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,840
did all this stuff and you had to go to

1118
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,480
confess to some guy on the other side of a

1119
01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:47,719
screen who wore a robe. Great people, I'm sure some

1120
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,800
of them not so much. We learned over the years,

1121
01:00:50,159 --> 01:00:53,679
But don't tell me that they had to go back

1122
01:00:53,719 --> 01:00:56,679
and laugh their fucking asses off at the things people confessed.

1123
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, Like, you didn't need

1124
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,960
to do that. No, you didn't need to do that

1125
01:01:02,119 --> 01:01:02,880
as much. Point.

1126
01:01:03,039 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 3: But the point is, and you're hearing this from an

1127
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:11,840
English professor. Words, all words have some meaning, yes, and

1128
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,719
you have to pick you try to pick the best word.

1129
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,760
I'm a poet. When I'm writing poetry, I'm trying for

1130
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,840
the best word to give the experience i'm having to

1131
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,280
the person who's going to read the poem. And since

1132
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,320
most of my poetry is esoteric, you can figure that

1133
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,000
out for yourself. I want them to have a higher

1134
01:01:29,079 --> 01:01:33,440
level of experience. But when it comes to the word God,

1135
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:38,679
it's so loaded. Yes, and so I will use it

1136
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:46,360
because it's a communication tool. But I call that entity,

1137
01:01:46,519 --> 01:01:50,159
that energy, the creative spirit who created all of us

1138
01:01:50,199 --> 01:01:55,159
in and through the energy of love. And I talk

1139
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,559
to the universe, and so it's the universe I'm talking

1140
01:01:58,599 --> 01:02:02,719
to because I don't. I mean, it's a big universe

1141
01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:05,000
and you should be able to call it something. So

1142
01:02:05,079 --> 01:02:08,280
I called the universe the universe. I call Roger Roger.

1143
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,440
And then Nacoma, Oh, we haven't mentioned her. Nakoma came

1144
01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:16,480
to me when we were talking about doing reiki, and

1145
01:02:16,519 --> 01:02:19,079
I said, oh, I'm good, and I learned crystal healing

1146
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:21,199
and I do all these sorts of modalities of healing.

1147
01:02:21,719 --> 01:02:26,719
And suddenly it became aware of another guide, a woman,

1148
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,119
Indigenous woman. I don't know what tribe. I thinks sort

1149
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:34,760
of probably not a whole or something, but anyway, and

1150
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,440
I said, how do I know that you are? I mean,

1151
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,440
I had enough proof that Roger was, but how do

1152
01:02:39,519 --> 01:02:43,519
I know that you are? And she said, I'm going

1153
01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:46,880
to give you a gift, and when you see the gift,

1154
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:52,679
you will know it's from me. So we went to

1155
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:57,719
a variety of antique stores, et cetera, and I kept

1156
01:02:57,719 --> 01:03:00,480
my eyes open and I just kept looking and thinking,

1157
01:03:00,519 --> 01:03:03,119
you know, what on earth would this woman be showing me?

1158
01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:06,280
And when I saw it, I broke into tears because

1159
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,639
I knew it exactly was I wish. I'll show you

1160
01:03:08,639 --> 01:03:12,239
a picture of it sometime. And it is Sedona Rock

1161
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,840
with a hole in the middle of it, and on

1162
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,679
the Sedona Rock is a kachina who I believe is

1163
01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:22,800
a warrior kachina, which I would be fighting, you know,

1164
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:27,480
disease and everything. And it was a blue healinga. I

1165
01:03:27,519 --> 01:03:30,079
was like, you couldn't have given me a better present.

1166
01:03:30,239 --> 01:03:32,599
Oh my gosh, it is so cool, And so I

1167
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:35,239
was very I have that every day near me, and

1168
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,400
it is so what she gave me as a commitment,

1169
01:03:39,639 --> 01:03:42,119
as a confirmation that she's with me.

1170
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: Talk a little more, that's all right, I just don't

1171
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,000
want to. I'm going to have to wrap this up

1172
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,880
because we're doing it earlier in the day and I

1173
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,639
have I've got to get a fourteen year old from school.

1174
01:03:53,639 --> 01:03:55,199
Speaker 2: But that's all right.

1175
01:03:55,239 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: But I I find all this stuff kind of pretty fascinating.

1176
01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 2: And I.

1177
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: Know that there's always the again, what's the proof, where's

1178
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:08,800
the proof, Where's this? Where's the that? And I'm just

1179
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,880
saying to people, you kind of know you have an

1180
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,360
intuition and inner guide and inner right, you're inner being,

1181
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you're inter being, and when you're in a bad mood,

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you're not in sync and that should be. Your emotions

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are your indicator of how you're doing. That's your GPS.

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Speaker 3: That's your GPS.

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Speaker 1: And if you can get back to feeling better, everything

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will go better. And if you often truly believe that

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everything will always work out for you, it always works

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out for you. And I think that that's an important

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message that people need to hear well and over.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of like waking up this morning and oh,

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01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,639
last night, I looked at my mail and you hadn't

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responded yesterday morning like you said you would. Yes, I know,

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01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,719
and I was like, oh damn. And then last night

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you said, oh, eleven o'clock, he is good. So then

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it was pouring and I didn't want to drive all

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the way from Waterloo to Hear and then I was told, no,

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you have to go. And then I was told you're

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going to do a podcast and here we are.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think this is great, you have to go

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Simple Gifts is the book. You can get that through

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your website.

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Speaker 3: No, no, you could get that on Amazon on Amazon.

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01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,239
Speaker 1: So when Amazon look for Simple Gifts of Living a

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01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,079
Spirited Life, it's a memoir by Toby Hewitt. Yes, and

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then you can hear the podcast, which I.

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Speaker 3: The podcast is. It's all three things. The kindle, the

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01:05:29,079 --> 01:05:32,079
paperback and the audio are on the same thing. Simple

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Gifts Living a Spirited Life a memoir. Now be careful.

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01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,360
There's also a Simple Gifts Meditations from Spirit that's a

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totally different book. But this one tells you how I

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lived my life and how I can help you to

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live a more spiritual, intuitive life.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and then thank you, I would say, and you'll

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do and you do readings for people.

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Speaker 3: I do readings. My website should be back up, I

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01:05:57,159 --> 01:05:58,960
hope in the next week or two. And you just

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look for Toby Hewitt com and I and you can.

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You can. You can write to me at Hewitt dot

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01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:13,960
Toby at gmail dot com uh for reading, or you

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01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,320
can contact me if you would like to have a

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01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,639
really cool presentation for the Halloween season or anytime during

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the year. So, because I love doing those I love

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helping people that way.

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01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 2: Who's here?

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01:06:25,599 --> 01:06:26,039
Speaker 3: Who's here?

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01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:26,199
Speaker 1: Now?

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01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:27,719
Speaker 2: Yeah? Is there anybody here?

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01:06:29,199 --> 01:06:33,199
Speaker 3: Well, okay, talk to anyone here that you want to

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01:06:33,239 --> 01:06:35,400
talk to me. I don't know about that. There is,

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01:06:36,519 --> 01:06:38,719
as I may have said earlier, and now I realized

1231
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,079
why you cut me off. There is the word sister

1232
01:06:41,159 --> 01:06:43,639
did enter into it. And there is a woman here

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01:06:43,679 --> 01:06:46,159
in a nun's habit. So I don't know if there's

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01:06:46,199 --> 01:06:49,800
somebody in your family or somebody who would have presented

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01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,679
themselves to you in that way, much older than you

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01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,519
could have been in a totally different lifetime. But I

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01:06:55,519 --> 01:06:57,280
think it was somebody who is much older than you

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and probably passed before you were in really eighteens, but

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01:07:01,559 --> 01:07:04,880
somebody who had an effect on you, whether it was

1240
01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:08,639
it was direct or it was through somebody else that

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01:07:08,679 --> 01:07:12,760
you knew. But she's just coming in here, and she's

1242
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,679
alvery pleased with how things are going for you, which

1243
01:07:14,679 --> 01:07:17,079
may seem a little weird, but she's going to continue

1244
01:07:17,079 --> 01:07:20,440
to look after you. She may even, oh that's an

1245
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,920
interesting thought. She may even be one of your guides.

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01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,320
And so I'm going to leave that one with you.

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01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:33,920
There's also somebody who is had a more rustic life

1248
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:39,800
was living in an area that probably shouldn't have been rustic,

1249
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,039
but it was. There was a lot of woods, a

1250
01:07:43,079 --> 01:07:45,920
lot of moisture around. I don't know what that means.

1251
01:07:46,159 --> 01:07:52,760
And wore suspenders a person who wore suspenders, but it

1252
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,719
was a kid. It was almost like a you know,

1253
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:59,000
Huckleberry Finn kind of human being that you knew. And

1254
01:07:59,079 --> 01:08:01,840
that person has also been hanging around with you because

1255
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:06,559
he unfortunately passed early through an accident. But those are

1256
01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:09,559
the only people I'm seeing right now other than my people. Okay,

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01:08:10,039 --> 01:08:11,079
there's a lot of lighting.

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01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,079
Speaker 2: There's a lot of light here. There's a lot of

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01:08:14,159 --> 01:08:16,000
light here. That is true.

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01:08:16,199 --> 01:08:18,560
Speaker 1: Well, Toby, it was great to see you, and I

1261
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:22,079
love this. I think it's been kind of fun and

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01:08:22,119 --> 01:08:22,960
I'm sure.

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01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,560
Speaker 2: I won't call it batshit crazy, but I I find

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that funny.

1265
01:08:27,199 --> 01:08:31,319
Speaker 1: Just that because when we don't agree or don't understand,

1266
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,840
it must be wrong. And always be a little more

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01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,920
open and try to try to listen a little bit.

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01:08:38,079 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 3: Try to stay open and aware because there's always someone

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01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:44,399
trying to communicate with you, and normally it's a very

1270
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:46,479
positive message and you don't want to miss it.

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01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to.

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01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,239
Speaker 1: Miss it all For Toby Hewitt, I am Bill Moran.

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01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,359
Simple Gifts, Living a Spirited Life, a memoir by Toby Hewitt.

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01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,359
Speaker 2: Get it at Amazon and the podcasting and the.

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01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:01,119
Speaker 3: Name is Dibusing with Toby Hewett.

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Speaker 2: Mystic Musics.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep want to say positive musics, but Mystic

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Musics needs they're bite size. Go and enjoy it and

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01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:18,520
we'll see you. To MJ Dispensary at nine hundred Jefferson

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Road in Henrietta. Here comes the weekend. You want to relax,

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01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,399
Speaker 1: Sleep a little bit better because you have been sleeping

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all week They've got something for you at MJ Dispensary.

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talk to the bud tenders. Highly educated. We'll be able

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to educate you and you're gonna be sleeping better, relaxing

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have something that's gonna give you a little more creativity.

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They have that they have everything. It's unbelievable what is

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available and what they know at MJ Dispensary. You need

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to know about it, so get in there. Nine hundred

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to you, so that saves you a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit of time. Hey, it's the weekend. Relax.

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Speaker 1: Get your relax on with MJ Dispensary online at Mjdispensary

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