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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to BIGFLA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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<v Speaker 1>this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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<v Speaker 1>you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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<v Speaker 1>something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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<v Speaker 1>quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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<v Speaker 1>To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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<v Speaker 1>just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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<v Speaker 1>So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. We

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<v Speaker 1>got the privilege of talking to Mike today. Mike is

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<v Speaker 1>an individual I got connected to over through Instagram, I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike's got some interesting things to share, some experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be going over into Oregon for a bit with

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<v Speaker 1>some interesting things that happened to Mike out in the

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<v Speaker 1>woods and he's going to share more about that in

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. But welcome to the show, Mike. How are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing today, sir?

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<v Speaker 2>Just good Man, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate it absolutely. We were just chatting a bit before

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<v Speaker 1>we hit record, and this is going to be kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a kind of a wild one to be an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting one. The way we're going to do tonight is

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<v Speaker 1>we'll probably chat as we go along, which might be

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<v Speaker 1>a little different than some listeners are used to, but hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're going to do with this one, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's all good. Feel free to lead us where you

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<v Speaker 1>want this to start out at, and we'll kind of

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<v Speaker 1>chat as we go along.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, sure. So I grew up in southern Orgon,

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<v Speaker 2>and just twenty minutes from my hometown there's a trivial

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<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot live trap that is a big tourist hot spot.

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<v Speaker 2>People go and check it out. Grew up with all

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<v Speaker 2>that bigfoot stickers everywhere, kind of before the big boom

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<v Speaker 2>across the country seem when everybody's back in their cars

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<v Speaker 2>now and whatnot. It's always kind of been that way there,

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<v Speaker 2>Northern California, southern organ It's very well for Sasquatch. Never

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<v Speaker 2>really paid any mind to it. I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>do the ROTC route, joined the Army after high school.

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<v Speaker 2>That didn't pan out for me, thankful for that now,

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<v Speaker 2>but I ended up getting in wildland firefighting, and my

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<v Speaker 2>first season out I was on a This was my

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<v Speaker 2>third fire with a company based off southern Oregon. Gray

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<v Speaker 2>Back is the name of that company, and we were

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<v Speaker 2>on what was the nation's biggest fire at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and the intensity at fire was so much so that

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<v Speaker 2>trees were exploding from the heat and causing fires to

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<v Speaker 2>start up to a mile and a half away from

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<v Speaker 2>these exploding chunks of tree, and so we were doing

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<v Speaker 2>a process called greeting the green, so we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that wasn't fired and started behind us so

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<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't get burnt over. And so we're chopping through thick, thick,

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<v Speaker 2>thick stuff that you know, there's I think the closest

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<v Speaker 2>man made structure where we were at on that fire

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<v Speaker 2>was seventy five miles away and it was a lightning

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<v Speaker 2>lookout tower, so not even a town close by or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that. We're in the thick of it, eating MRI's,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, stinking, sweating, working hard and well. We had

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<v Speaker 2>been greening the green for about two and a half hours,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was greenhorn back then, but I had been

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<v Speaker 2>hunting for a number of years at that point, learned

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<v Speaker 2>to hunt for really good people, and so my tracking

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<v Speaker 2>skills are probably better than your average bear. Not that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm yeah in maths or anything like that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>had to relieve myself, and so I hauler down the

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<v Speaker 2>line because we all walk in the line about twenty

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<v Speaker 2>feet apart, and we just look for, you know, any

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<v Speaker 2>amber's smoke coming up, because when it goes up, it

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<v Speaker 2>goes as quick. You don't want to get caught in

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<v Speaker 2>between it. So I yelled this big country bumpkin guy

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<v Speaker 2>named Jesse about six foot five, two eighty massive man, Hey, Jesse,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta take a dump, Dude. I go on this

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<v Speaker 2>big redwood tree. It says okay, okay, and it says go.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm doing my thing. And if you're not aware

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<v Speaker 2>of redwoods, they have duff, right, and so deaf is

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<v Speaker 2>leaf litter that accumulates underneath the tree. And what it's

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<v Speaker 2>unique about redwood trees is they can get like three

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<v Speaker 2>feet of dof and so it's almost like a foam

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<v Speaker 2>sponginess under these trees in some circumstances, especially when they're

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<v Speaker 2>like an older tree. Right. So I'm burying my stuff

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<v Speaker 2>back up and putting my backpack on, and I look

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<v Speaker 2>on the ground and I noticed, I said, oh my godness,

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<v Speaker 2>are those foot tracks and I'm going up and I

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<v Speaker 2>wear a size eleven and a half boot and I

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<v Speaker 2>go to the first one and I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>family's like toes. And I'm looking at it and it's

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<v Speaker 2>in this duff mind you, so it's not super it's

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<v Speaker 2>not super like pronounced toes right per se. On the

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<v Speaker 2>first one, I noticed, and then I see a lion.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh man, there's more, and I'm following and

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<v Speaker 2>then I noticed there's big tracks and little tracks, and

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, we're out in the middle of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was about on track number seven that I

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<v Speaker 2>saw a perfect, I mean perfect footprint and I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>jaw drop looking at this thing and I'm like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>And I got my boot next to it. Eleven and

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<v Speaker 2>a half boot measures out about a football. It was

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<v Speaker 2>right about that footmark, but it was wider than my

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<v Speaker 2>boot and you could specifically see each toe and I'm like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. That was my first different counter. I saw

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<v Speaker 2>nine tracks, mom and babe babe tracks, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>out in the middle of nowhere. It was the fire

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<v Speaker 2>was too crazy. There's people, houses and stuff on the

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<v Speaker 2>edge of the fire farther away where we were getting

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<v Speaker 2>burnt down and nobody's putting on fake sasquat shoes and

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<v Speaker 2>stopping around in the woods right in that circumstance. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was what got me.

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<v Speaker 1>That was really wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is you said, within like thirty miles of Applegate, Oregon. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where the trap is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the tracks that you saw, how far apart were

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<v Speaker 1>the tracks from each other?

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<v Speaker 2>So it looked to me it looked like a like

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<v Speaker 2>something that if I was doing a big lunch, as

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<v Speaker 2>far as the bigger tracks I could, I could accomplish.

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<v Speaker 2>But then again, you got to think if it was

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<v Speaker 2>a mother and a baby, she's not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>at full pace, right, She's got to keep up with

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<v Speaker 2>her young and her mother. If the baby's walking with her,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's too big for her to carry or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it was walking side by side with her. Right. There

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<v Speaker 2>was only two of the smaller tracks that that were

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<v Speaker 2>noticeably like, yeah, this is definitely a footprint. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was a little bit bigger than half of her the

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<v Speaker 2>females what I'm assuming to be the female's track, And

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<v Speaker 2>so I would say the gate was probably three and

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<v Speaker 2>a half maybe, and it was pretty good, pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Gate gotcha the way could you tell the way it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to be walking where the tracks lined up one

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the other or side by side, or.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I was in such awe and right kind

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<v Speaker 2>of disbelief at the moment. I had a to bring

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<v Speaker 2>you back in time. I have a razor two at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and I was going to take a picture

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<v Speaker 2>of it. And before I took a picture of it,

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<v Speaker 2>the one perfect track, I called that country bunk and

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<v Speaker 2>digested Jesse get over here? What comes running over and

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<v Speaker 2>say slow down? Slow down? He's running and he ends

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<v Speaker 2>up stepping on a stick that's like nine feet away

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<v Speaker 2>and ends up blowing under the duff. It rises up

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<v Speaker 2>and blows all the toes out of the one perfect track,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, I'm losing my mind at him. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, do you see these these are foot planting

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<v Speaker 2>student He's like, I guess you know, I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy eats grands. He's not he's not right, And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like and I'm just losing my mind over and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe you just blew out the one. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say they seemed to be I do recall

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<v Speaker 2>that it was there wasn't any station. As far as

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<v Speaker 2>the tracks were very linear. I do remember that that

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<v Speaker 2>they were close together and it wasn't like turning or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>They knew exactly where they're going and they were heading

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<v Speaker 2>that way, and it seemed now that yeah, it probably

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<v Speaker 2>was more in line than yeah, side by side.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, a few more questions. It's a few more about

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<v Speaker 1>this one. So can you provide the approximate year? And

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<v Speaker 1>you told me the name of the fire, but can

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<v Speaker 1>you say that again? And also are there any other

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<v Speaker 1>location descriptors for the area that you were in?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so this was the this was two thousand and eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>summer of twenty eleven, I'd say probably mid June. Spent

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time. But and so what I remember

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<v Speaker 2>is this was it's like the third day of fire

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<v Speaker 2>that we're on. We ha had a hike sixteen miles

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<v Speaker 2>in off the forestry road to get to our where

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<v Speaker 2>we base camped out. And then we had a we're

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<v Speaker 2>hiking about sixteen miles every day, not including the work,

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<v Speaker 2>just to get to the fire from our camp where

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<v Speaker 2>we could get food. Hello dropped in. So I remember, gosh, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't at a point where I was running. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I was in charge of really knowing where we

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<v Speaker 2>were at or anything. I was just figuring out the ropes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was eighteen years old. I do recall

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<v Speaker 2>that there was this area right before, right before we

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<v Speaker 2>got there, there was this big area of large granite boulders,

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<v Speaker 2>granite quartz boulders, like seven eight feet tall and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like quite a bit without any exposed mountain side,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we're in the mountains and it's steep as hell,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like these big kind of rocks like almost

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<v Speaker 2>seemed mythical, and it was like, weird, Wow, this is

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful and weird. It's just in the middle of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we went down a valley across the little

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<v Speaker 2>creek and then it was all these big old growths

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<v Speaker 2>and that's kind of where it happened. Okay, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really have any specifics more than that, but yeah, in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the heart of the southern Oregon.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha. And what was the name of the fire again?

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<v Speaker 2>That was the was that the very rock or the

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<v Speaker 2>very point very okay, very point fire, I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, Okay, thank you. Yeah. So so then you have

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<v Speaker 1>that experience where you see these large tracks and that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of that affects you definitely, and then after that

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<v Speaker 1>do you start looking into things or how did what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of path does that aide you on? After that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, that definitely got the cogs movement. I had

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<v Speaker 2>had my first word experience at fourteen with my family

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the Lake UFO experience, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of got me down that path. And then so

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<v Speaker 2>I was kind of already introjectory on that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even think Bigfoot was real or had you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought it was a kooky hitnie thing. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>after that, I definitely started looking into it. But podcasts

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<v Speaker 2>weren't really around back then, at least to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where it's on your phone and stuff, So I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really start hearing other encounters from other people or doing

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<v Speaker 2>serious digging probably until I would say probably after I

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<v Speaker 2>had a couple other UFO experiences. I just started digging

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<v Speaker 2>of found correlations and then started getting into Bigfoot. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, I got an iPhone that I can

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<v Speaker 2>pull up a podcast song, and then I just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of delved into it from there. So I'm not very

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<v Speaker 2>tech savvy, as you know, So it's it's not something

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<v Speaker 2>that I would jump on my desktop at home and

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<v Speaker 2>go research after school. I was I was shooting squirrels

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<v Speaker 2>and Cosmo Rucus you know, gotcha? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Cool? Cool? So what what would you think? The next

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you had some sort of experience that that

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<v Speaker 1>related to sasquatch.

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<v Speaker 2>Was for sure? So, and this is something that we

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about earlier that I and I didn't find

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<v Speaker 2>this correlation until later listening to podcasts where I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure if you're familiar with the h I couldn't tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that researchers. Have you seen that the researchers who

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<v Speaker 2>they claimed to have via thermal videotaped a portal with

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<v Speaker 2>sasquatches and all this stuff, and then someone picking up

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<v Speaker 2>on thermal and then the old two old dudes going

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<v Speaker 2>there they both died cancer like three months later. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. I think Tony Merphle did something about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, do you know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm talking about? Yep. So it was that that

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<v Speaker 2>documentary that it clicked for me, where they had talked

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<v Speaker 2>about in these supposed portals or whatever opened up, or

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<v Speaker 2>I'd heard it on I think a West Grimmer podcast too,

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<v Speaker 2>where someone said they saw a orb and then a

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<v Speaker 2>sasquatch and they're hearing these like loud, almost crunching, metallic,

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<v Speaker 2>crazy sounds, but very metallic sounding. I definitely heard that

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<v Speaker 2>out there in the woods, probably five or six times,

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<v Speaker 2>fighting fire, thinking it was a piece of machinery. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>use machinery and stuff out there, but you usually hear

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<v Speaker 2>the machinery. It was just that alone standing alone and

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<v Speaker 2>doing well, that's weird, but there's just so much chaos

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<v Speaker 2>and pandemonium and making sure you're not getting purked by fire,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not really on the forefront of your mind

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, but that is. That's really the only

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<v Speaker 2>other sasquatch encounters that I have that I can tie

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<v Speaker 1>Can you describe a little bit more about what the

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<v Speaker 1>metallic sounds were like that you were hearing those five

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<v Speaker 1>or six times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, it was all very similar each time. And

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<v Speaker 2>the weird thing about it was it just it was

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<v Speaker 2>so it was so loud. It was just so loud,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it almost sounded like a car crash where

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<v Speaker 2>it's metal and metal. It almost sounded like I think

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<v Speaker 2>of a panel of the door just like crumbling in

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<v Speaker 2>on itself, really fast and violent, like like whoa like sharp,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely tabic sounding, but just unworldly, like very just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of And I remember one circumstance where we were all

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<v Speaker 2>us the plan for what's next, and then we heard

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<v Speaker 2>that sound pretty close, probably three four hundred yards away,

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<v Speaker 2>and three quarters of the crew snapped their neck and

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<v Speaker 2>looked into the woods and were like, what is that?

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<v Speaker 2>And they just wrote it off there. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because a lot of a lot of men,

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<v Speaker 2>if they don't know, they just write things off, especially scary,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So we all tend to do that sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, logically, our I think our minds tried to

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<v Speaker 1>do that to save ourselves somehow write it off. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this also in Southwest Oregon and around the same time period.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I thought far six years out there. All

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<v Speaker 2>all the big foot encounters or metallic sounds and those

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<v Speaker 2>footprints all took place in either southern Oregon or in California,

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<v Speaker 2>But really in that Emerald Triangle in the thick gold woods.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where it was happening at.

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<v Speaker 1>So gotcha. Yeah, okay, did any did Bigfoot ever come

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<v Speaker 1>up in conversation between you and any other fire firefighters

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<v Speaker 1>on your crew?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, so I I after the footprints, oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was the young buck out there too, And oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I just got hammered by everybody. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>that first company I was working for, as great and

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<v Speaker 2>grandioso as they are, they're not They're not very freethinkers,

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<v Speaker 2>very redneck and setting their ways. You know, old dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to teach a new trick too. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just got berated and you know, they're you're crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not talking to you guys ever about

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<v Speaker 2>this again. So yeah, that was that. But then the

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<v Speaker 2>other five years. I ended up leaving that company because

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't get along with those guys too well.

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<v Speaker 2>And I went to another company, and I had had

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<v Speaker 2>talks with some of those guys, but never experienced anything

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<v Speaker 2>really with that company. We weren't in the think of

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<v Speaker 2>it as much as my first company.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, so that the new company was more understanding about

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<v Speaker 1>what you'd gone through or were they also like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've had stuff happen out here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, definitely, definitely. Yeah, plenty of other people who have

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<v Speaker 2>had encounters that I've met over the years, especially men

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<v Speaker 2>who spent their time in the woods that much, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha were they were they talking about like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen something or more we've heard something and we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen tracks stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is actually I tracks I've met probably from

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<v Speaker 2>the firefighting community out there, probably five or six guys

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<v Speaker 2>who have seen tracks at some point in time. Probably

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<v Speaker 2>another handful of guys who have liked seen like something

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<v Speaker 2>jumped from bush to bush or tree to treat and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, what was that? That wasn't a bear? Most

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<v Speaker 2>of these guys are avid hunters, know their way around

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<v Speaker 2>the land. Know white animals are out there, aren't you know,

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<v Speaker 2>most of them that killed a bear, they're not. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not too worried about anything out there, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's scares you. You know, you're not especially when you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what it is. So yeah, but yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>were much more understanding that company, for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I uh, I the this is a little

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<v Speaker 3>a little off topic, but the speaking of other people's encounters,

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<v Speaker 3>I was I was living in Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. I was doing custom fireplaces and I had a

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<v Speaker 2>I was listening to a Sasquatch Chronicles and had a

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<v Speaker 2>customer asking me what I was listening to. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like kind of embarrassed, as like a Sasquatch Chronicles.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're like, oh, is that a podcast? And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, yeah it is. And and then the

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<v Speaker 2>wife's like, you gotta tell him. You got to tell

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<v Speaker 2>him your encounter. And I was like, oh, what, And

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<v Speaker 2>so he told me there were him and his prior

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<v Speaker 2>and while we're going hunting and juvenile sasquatch there out

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of nowhere, while they're setting up their fire,

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<v Speaker 2>just and other and another ones building a tent, a

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<v Speaker 2>sasquatch came. A young sasquatch came screaming, waving its arms

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<v Speaker 2>over tent through the middle of their camp, pushed the

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<v Speaker 2>old and into the fire, and they just ran straight through,

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<v Speaker 2>screamed in the whole way. They said they left their

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<v Speaker 2>guns their tent. They jumped in the truck and damped

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, did you ever get your stuff back?

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, yeah, we came back three days later with

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of guns and a bunch of people and

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<v Speaker 2>our stuff and I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so I pushed them right in the fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you share the I'm sure you can't share the

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<v Speaker 1>exact location, but the region is this like Olympic Peninsula

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<v Speaker 1>or oh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, uh uh, yeah, it was around that area.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot about. I did have another encounter out a

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<v Speaker 2>national forest with my daughter and my wife. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>forgot my dogs. I forgot about that one too. That one.

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<v Speaker 2>We can get to that one too, I guess while

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<v Speaker 2>we're on the West coast next. Yeah. This was actually

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<v Speaker 2>probably about six months after I had heard that story.

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<v Speaker 2>Living outside Seattle for like three years and just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get away from the city. We went out Olimpia

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<v Speaker 2>and did some camping no cell service, and I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be a good idea with my daughter to walk

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<v Speaker 2>around the campsite. There was only us in one other family.

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of in the middle of summer, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was I guess it was. It was before fourth

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<v Speaker 2>of July, so it wasn't very busy, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>us and the camp hosts, and then another young family

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<v Speaker 2>who had two boys, and I had my daughter who

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<v Speaker 2>was looking six at the time, and the kids are

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<v Speaker 2>kind of playing whatever, and then we settled down eat dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, hey, you want to go for a

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<v Speaker 2>walk before dinner or before by time. She was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>sure walk and I was like, you want to you

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<v Speaker 2>some you want to do some Sasquatch hoots and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>gosh sure. So we're doing like big old bard owl hoots.

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<v Speaker 2>And I haven't I haven't been drinking for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>number of years now, but back then I still was

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<v Speaker 2>drinking and I probably had good five beers or so.

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<v Speaker 2>I was feeling pretty good. I was sleeping on dirt. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to sleep good, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>So I passed out and I wake at that like

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<v Speaker 4>two thirty three in the morning to what sounds like

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<v Speaker 4>an eight hundred pound owl on top of my head,

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<v Speaker 4>sol loud like.

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<v Speaker 2>I shot up out of bed. I grabbed my forty

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<v Speaker 2>four magnat I cracked that thing back and I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, my heart's just like oh, I'm sweating

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<v Speaker 2>cold sweats, and I'm like, what's going on. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay, it's okay. My tent's not shaking, it's not moving,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just sounds like, it's right on top of me.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the next morning, after breakfast, I go out

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<v Speaker 2>and I asked the I was, okay, did you hear

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<v Speaker 2>anything last night to my name? To the guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>closest to us, he's eight hundred yards away or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>with his two boys, He's like, yeah, I think I

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<v Speaker 2>had an owl on top of my trailer. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually coming from over that way. I heard exactly

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<v Speaker 2>where it's coming from because I'm in a tent. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it was too loud. It had to be on top

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<v Speaker 2>of my camp. And I was like, dude, I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was a sasquatch. And then he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>let his kids play with my kid anymore for the

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<v Speaker 2>next two days and I was like, oh, dude, that

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<v Speaker 2>but but it scared him. He like to put his

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<v Speaker 2>kids inside the trailer. Right after that, he's like, we

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<v Speaker 2>need to like well, I mean rightfully, so we'reund minn't

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<v Speaker 2>know where, no cell service and kids kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Freaking what sorry, before did you say what forest that was?

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<v Speaker 1>Or was it a certain state forest.

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<v Speaker 2>Or oh with the with the yeah, that was the

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<v Speaker 2>Olympia National Park. I should ask my wife. I it

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<v Speaker 2>was in Olympian National Park. I bet she noticed the campsite. Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, she is good at the sich no properthdays and names.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, just over here scratching away.

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<v Speaker 1>Somewhere on the Olympic Peninsula. It sounds like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was. It wasn't right on the coast, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was more in line. It was a like, I

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<v Speaker 2>pay for a campground that's maintained and stuff, but it's

417
00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:16.920
<v Speaker 2>just wilderness out there. There's no showers, portal pot They

418
00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:18.680
<v Speaker 2>did have portal and they did have port potties. They

419
00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:25.079
<v Speaker 2>had two portal bodies, but just nothing. Okay, Wood's beautiful woods, so.

420
00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, gotcha.

421
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah that was interesting.

422
00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:35.839
<v Speaker 1>So now would you say those are the main encounters

423
00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:40.200
<v Speaker 1>then that you had where you experienced something and you're

424
00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:42.519
<v Speaker 1>like out in the woods and something happened.

425
00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:45.960
<v Speaker 2>No, okay, No, that's like that's like the little stuff

426
00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:50.960
<v Speaker 2>happened out west. Surprisingly. I don't know what's going on

427
00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:53.400
<v Speaker 2>with this jinky charger though I might have to go.

428
00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:58.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm I know it was working. I just don't want

429
00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:00.400
<v Speaker 2>to know. I don't know what's going on with this thing.

430
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:02.920
<v Speaker 2>It's not okay, it's charging right now. I just don't

431
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:10.519
<v Speaker 2>want it to die. I'm going to try to, Okay.

432
00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:12.799
<v Speaker 2>I like the nervous sweats going through all this right now,

433
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:18.599
<v Speaker 2>stinking and stuff. Dude, Laria, I'm not just okay. So

434
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:23.519
<v Speaker 2>next I guess is out east. So we moved from Seattle.

435
00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:25.680
<v Speaker 2>We moved out to me. We got our first house.

436
00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:29.480
<v Speaker 2>We live in southern May. I was telling you before

437
00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:33.640
<v Speaker 2>you started up the recording. I had a lady tell me.

438
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:38.160
<v Speaker 2>She was like, oh, do you know this creek out

439
00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:40.279
<v Speaker 2>out in this area? And I was like, yeah, that's

440
00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:42.599
<v Speaker 2>right in my backyard. She grabbed me by the collar

441
00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:44.759
<v Speaker 2>and she says, it's haunted. What are you doing there?

442
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:47.079
<v Speaker 2>It's like, I got a house right there and I'm

443
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:51.839
<v Speaker 2>not moving. This is after a couple of encounters and

444
00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 2>experiences and anyway, Yeah, she got to talk to me

445
00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:58.680
<v Speaker 2>because I'm my wife and I own a food trailer

446
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:00.640
<v Speaker 2>as well, and I have a sasquatch dig around there.

447
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.599
<v Speaker 2>And most people just you know whatever. But anybody who

448
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:07.880
<v Speaker 2>has seen something or whatever, they usually are like they

449
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:13.519
<v Speaker 2>want to tell you because people think you're crazy. So

450
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:17.920
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, my first encounter out here was I had

451
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:20.960
<v Speaker 2>gone to go get some lobster rolls, which are big

452
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:29.240
<v Speaker 2>out here totally with my girls and ice cream and

453
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:32.359
<v Speaker 2>my sister. She moved out east with us too, from

454
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:36.680
<v Speaker 2>the West Coast. She had gotten divorced and she just

455
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.599
<v Speaker 2>wanted a fresh start. At this point, it had been

456
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:42.559
<v Speaker 2>six seven months since we'd been here in Maine, and

457
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:46.480
<v Speaker 2>she had herself a boyfriend and they kind of had

458
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:48.799
<v Speaker 2>just first started dating at this point in time. They

459
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.920
<v Speaker 2>were we have a bonfire in our backyard fire pit,

460
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:56.839
<v Speaker 2>and they're having a bonfire back there, and it's it's springtime.

461
00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:00.279
<v Speaker 2>So I got to preface this. The encounters, all the

462
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:04.799
<v Speaker 2>encounters that I've had in my behind my house have

463
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:09.799
<v Speaker 2>been spring or fall. So that's just when it's happened

464
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:14.440
<v Speaker 2>over the spanning two years. Oh, I've been here three

465
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:19.920
<v Speaker 2>but over the span of two years, it's been four

466
00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:22.640
<v Speaker 2>serious encounters. Some other ones where I'm like, is that

467
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.200
<v Speaker 2>something jumping from that tree to that tree kind of thing?

468
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Not jumping from tree to tree, but like dashing from build,

469
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:34.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, basswood to oak tree. Or there's a couple

470
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:37.680
<v Speaker 2>of old growths back there that have enough cover for

471
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:39.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, you couldn't see me if I was hiding

472
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:42.400
<v Speaker 2>behind it. Definitely not something big if it was sideways, right,

473
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:48.039
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, and go ahead and feel free to cut

474
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:51.559
<v Speaker 2>me off, because I I'm a chatty cafey sometimes. So

475
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:59.319
<v Speaker 2>we get home and they're out there and they're having

476
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:05.480
<v Speaker 2>some drinks hanging out, and I go down. I said, hey, Sis,

477
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>what's going on? She's kind of wide eyed and she's

478
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:10.720
<v Speaker 2>looking at me kind of crazy, and I'm thinking, is

479
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:12.920
<v Speaker 2>this guy being weird to you? Like I'd only met

480
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:16.160
<v Speaker 2>him once or twice, and I'm like, I'm like, are

481
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:19.480
<v Speaker 2>you okay? And she's like, I don't know, and I like,

482
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:21.759
<v Speaker 2>look at him. I'm like angry. She's like it's not him,

483
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.440
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, what's going on? And he's and then

484
00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:26.359
<v Speaker 2>I look at him and he's like down at the

485
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:28.279
<v Speaker 2>fire and he looks up and he's a wide eyed too,

486
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:32.000
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, what's going on? Guys like grabbing, like, hey,

487
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:34.240
<v Speaker 2>I always have gun on my gun. I was like,

488
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:36.960
<v Speaker 2>what's going on, guys? It's like, what's going on. He's

489
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:39.279
<v Speaker 2>like there's something in the woods, and I was like,

490
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:41.160
<v Speaker 2>someone's in the woods. And he's like, you, I think

491
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:43.640
<v Speaker 2>there's something in the woods. I was like, is it

492
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>a bear? Like what is it. I don't know. Maybe

493
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:51.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a bear, okay, and he's from the area, so

494
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:54.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, we have it. We do have a fisher

495
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:57.720
<v Speaker 2>cat in her backyard that goes across. I don't know

496
00:29:57.720 --> 00:29:59.319
<v Speaker 2>if you're familiar with that, but it's just a big

497
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:03.640
<v Speaker 2>inning weasel. But they make crazy screaming. The sounds they

498
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.440
<v Speaker 2>don't they don't make They're not humanoid on two feet,

499
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:15.799
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. But yeah, so this is uh,

500
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:21.599
<v Speaker 2>the only time I have experienced the spider crawl, I said,

501
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:23.519
<v Speaker 2>I said, so, what's going on? What's going on? He's like,

502
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Things have been whistling at us and

503
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:31.319
<v Speaker 2>throwing things at us. I said, what and not that

504
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:33.200
<v Speaker 2>this is kind of weird to throw in there, But

505
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:37.759
<v Speaker 2>I do think it has a correlation. My younger sister

506
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.359
<v Speaker 2>was it was her time a month at that point

507
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:46.759
<v Speaker 2>of time, and there was a lot there was like

508
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:53.480
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of activity that spring especially, and

509
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:57.319
<v Speaker 2>that first encounter seemed like there was two different maybe

510
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:02.599
<v Speaker 2>juvenile males is what I the mass, but there was

511
00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:06.200
<v Speaker 2>definitely one. As I'm looking in my backyard across the creek,

512
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:09.279
<v Speaker 2>there's one off to the left, and then there's one

513
00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:11.680
<v Speaker 2>off to the right on our side of the creek, but.

514
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>You can actually see them, well you see silhouettes.

515
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not like in the light of

516
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:22.480
<v Speaker 2>the the outside of the light of the fire. But

517
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:24.599
<v Speaker 2>the one that was on our side of the creek,

518
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:28.799
<v Speaker 2>the spider crawl. I thought this is when I went side,

519
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, it's just not for me, because

520
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:34.599
<v Speaker 2>it was like from bush to bush and I was like,

521
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:38.559
<v Speaker 2>what is that. You know, I'm going inside, and I

522
00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:43.160
<v Speaker 2>had seen the one, and oddly enough, there's big basswood tree.

523
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>It's similar to oak seems to be. It's the biggest

524
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.759
<v Speaker 2>tree in the area. And that is where I've seen

525
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:55.799
<v Speaker 2>every time either.

526
00:31:57.880 --> 00:31:58.039
<v Speaker 5>Where.

527
00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:02.440
<v Speaker 2>I've seen it numerous times. Peek out m right, I'm like,

528
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:07.119
<v Speaker 2>just because it's the biggest vegetation there, That's what I'm nice.

529
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.960
<v Speaker 2>But so before we go inside and I'll call it quits,

530
00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, this is weird. And before we called

531
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:15.480
<v Speaker 2>it quits, we're up on now, up on my back deck,

532
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:17.960
<v Speaker 2>which is about thirty feet away from my fire. Fire

533
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:21.799
<v Speaker 2>is still ripping and we're having and then I hear

534
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.079
<v Speaker 2>a whistle. I think it's a human. I grab my

535
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:28.079
<v Speaker 2>mag light, which is like twelve hundred lumens. It's waterproof.

536
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:33.880
<v Speaker 2>It's super nice, and I like a cop pistol and magline.

537
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:35.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, boom, Like what is is? Do I got

538
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:39.599
<v Speaker 2>someone in my backyard being weird, you know, because we

539
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:46.440
<v Speaker 2>have some property and this charter's being walky again. Oh

540
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:50.759
<v Speaker 2>my goodness. Anyway, I should probably just go get my

541
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:55.400
<v Speaker 2>stinking charger and yeah, so I mag lighted it and

542
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:58.000
<v Speaker 2>that's when I saw the spider thing and I was

543
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:00.839
<v Speaker 2>like oh. And then from the left, I had like

544
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:07.240
<v Speaker 2>like a MLB picture fastball and acorn about an inch

545
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:10.519
<v Speaker 2>from my head and blew up on the side of

546
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:12.440
<v Speaker 2>my house. I was thrown so hard an acorn. I

547
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>was like oh. And then I was like, I mean,

548
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:15.440
<v Speaker 2>we were saying a lot of other words, and then

549
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.920
<v Speaker 2>my little sister started crying. She was like and she

550
00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:21.000
<v Speaker 2>just went inside. And Dan's like, can I stay here tonight?

551
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:24.119
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, yeah, dude, that's funny. Like so,

552
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:26.319
<v Speaker 2>because you know, they were hanging out. He had had

553
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:27.839
<v Speaker 2>a couple of beers and he didn't want to drive,

554
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:31.519
<v Speaker 2>but everybody was pretty shook up. So that was the

555
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:32.559
<v Speaker 2>first experience here in me.

556
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:37.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Okay, So yeah, when you saw spider crawl,

557
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:39.079
<v Speaker 1>how quickly was it moving?

558
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's creepy, dude, was so creepy. It was trying

559
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.000
<v Speaker 2>to be quiet. The only reason I picked up on

560
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:49.440
<v Speaker 2>it since I heard a teeny little stick break and

561
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.519
<v Speaker 2>I was like canned over and that's when I had

562
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.440
<v Speaker 2>the bag light and it was just like like a flash,

563
00:33:55.559 --> 00:34:01.160
<v Speaker 2>like a furry flash into this thick it's like a

564
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:06.400
<v Speaker 2>bunch of fern and it was that other plant, brushy

565
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.239
<v Speaker 2>plant and very thick. Can't see through it with the flashlight,

566
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:12.079
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it was just maybe a three foot gap

567
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:15.159
<v Speaker 2>in between those where it was like, oh what was that?

568
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't even get like really colored definition on it.

569
00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:24.519
<v Speaker 2>But for whatever reason, like actually gray stands out to me,

570
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:26.960
<v Speaker 2>but I you know, I don't know. It was all

571
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:30.599
<v Speaker 2>within a milliseconds, So it just was weird. So that

572
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.840
<v Speaker 2>was that was the first encounter. I'm sure you have

573
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:41.199
<v Speaker 2>heard the theory that just like any large predator, they

574
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:49.599
<v Speaker 2>use waterways as highways. Yeah, so that's not anything new

575
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:52.079
<v Speaker 2>on my book as far as being a hunter and

576
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:56.559
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. But so it makes sense springtime, fall

577
00:34:56.639 --> 00:35:01.599
<v Speaker 2>time use it as a highway, gotcha? I covered in

578
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:02.639
<v Speaker 2>nervous sweats right now.

579
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Dude, Oh, I don't blame you. I mean that man,

580
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:07.920
<v Speaker 1>if I was through something like that, that would be

581
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:13.159
<v Speaker 1>with me for probably forever. So you were having multiple

582
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>experiences at this one property.

583
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so it kind of ramped up a little bit.

584
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Uh not as far as like there. That's the only

585
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:26.800
<v Speaker 2>time where I was definitely sure there was more than one.

586
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:31.480
<v Speaker 2>But I almost had the feeling like one of those

587
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:40.239
<v Speaker 2>adolescents had a look, had an interest in my little sister.

588
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.679
<v Speaker 2>She's she's a beautiful young woman, you know, but she

589
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:46.079
<v Speaker 2>I remember coming home a couple of times where she's like,

590
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:50.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know, my wife was out doing something with

591
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.400
<v Speaker 2>my daughter or whatever, and it was later or whatever,

592
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:56.440
<v Speaker 2>and it was just her and she's like, I don't

593
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:58.880
<v Speaker 2>want to take the dogs out. It's weird out there.

594
00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:04.239
<v Speaker 2>And here's the other thing, the how people talk about

595
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:09.280
<v Speaker 2>it just being dead quiet, like unnaturally quiet during these events.

596
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:13.159
<v Speaker 2>I've experienced that every single time something weird' spin back here,

597
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Like no cicadas, no grasshoppers, we got millions of frogs,

598
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:21.440
<v Speaker 2>like in the springtime that come out of that creek.

599
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>No frogs, no nothing going on. So that's definitely noteworthy

600
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:36.400
<v Speaker 2>as well. But yeah, the I guess the second encounter

601
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 2>after that, So yeah, she said numerous times, two three

602
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 2>times where she was like, can you take the dogs out?

603
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:44.920
<v Speaker 2>It's it's weird out there, and I'm like, yeah, sure,

604
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:53.920
<v Speaker 2>dogs whatever, no mind, you know, except for I guess

605
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:57.320
<v Speaker 2>that'd probably be the next time. So this next experience,

606
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:05.960
<v Speaker 2>same place, same house on that now, I went out

607
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:07.760
<v Speaker 2>to take my dogs out. It's probably about ten o'clock

608
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:11.360
<v Speaker 2>at night on a Tuesday. I have a pit bowl

609
00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:14.320
<v Speaker 2>and a red nose pit named Waffles. And she's a

610
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>sweet and she's real dumb, and she barks at the mailman.

611
00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:20.599
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't know what's going on. My other dog though,

612
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.599
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't mark at anybody. And she's very smart. She's

613
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:26.320
<v Speaker 2>shepherd and pitt and lab. I don't know. She's a

614
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:30.440
<v Speaker 2>very good dog. She's very smart too, and tough. And

615
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I was being impatient and didn't even really notice until

616
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.039
<v Speaker 2>it was kind of too late. She had her tail

617
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:40.400
<v Speaker 2>tucked touch in her stomach, which this is the only

618
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:42.199
<v Speaker 2>time I've ever seen that dog do that. I've seen

619
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.440
<v Speaker 2>her stare down a mast it and win you know

620
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:47.679
<v Speaker 2>who was trying to bite me, and he was like, oh,

621
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:53.400
<v Speaker 2>never mind and ran the other way. She's tough, and

622
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:56.159
<v Speaker 2>so I'm like having to drag her off the deck.

623
00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, go tee in the back and

624
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:02.119
<v Speaker 2>she's like not wanting to even step on the grass.

625
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:03.920
<v Speaker 2>She's on my driveway. She doesn't want to go in

626
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:11.480
<v Speaker 2>the backyard. And I'm like, well, what's going on? And yeah,

627
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I literally was dragging Waffles downstairs. What's going on with

628
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:19.079
<v Speaker 2>these dogs? Waffles peek of the driveway. Like I said,

629
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:21.840
<v Speaker 2>she's not very smart, So I was like, whatever, dumb dog,

630
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:24.039
<v Speaker 2>go inside. And then Willow wasn't going on the durt

631
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:25.400
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, okay, that's kind of what I

632
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:26.920
<v Speaker 2>was like. And then I noticed the tail and I

633
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:32.159
<v Speaker 2>was like, okay, what's going on? And so me and

634
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:38.800
<v Speaker 2>my neighbors have big I don't know, it's probably thirty

635
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:45.079
<v Speaker 2>feet deep of untouched woods that divides our properties, and

636
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:47.960
<v Speaker 2>it was in between that finger that separates our property,

637
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:51.440
<v Speaker 2>and it was about halfway up into my like maintained

638
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.800
<v Speaker 2>part of my backyard. So we have three quarters of

639
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:56.800
<v Speaker 2>an acre back there, and then it ties into it.

640
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Then it's the power companies for like acre, and then

641
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:04.199
<v Speaker 2>it's a forty acre horse farm, and then it's wilderness,

642
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:07.360
<v Speaker 2>so it's there's not any houses or anything in that area.

643
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I just figure I put that in there. But yeah,

644
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:17.199
<v Speaker 2>in between this finger, I look up and I see

645
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:20.800
<v Speaker 2>a pair of glowing red eyes, not eyeshine. I've heard

646
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:22.679
<v Speaker 2>the glowing thing, and I always thought it was BS

647
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:27.199
<v Speaker 2>because I've heard about it before this experience on other podcasts,

648
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:32.119
<v Speaker 2>and I was just kind of like maybe suckers were good.

649
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:35.800
<v Speaker 2>And they were like in the moment, they seemed like

650
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:38.400
<v Speaker 2>they were the size of golf balls, I mean huge,

651
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:42.519
<v Speaker 2>like really really big and really really far apart, like

652
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:47.000
<v Speaker 2>not Andre the giant, I don't know would do a justice,

653
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:56.159
<v Speaker 2>like really far apart. And it was a overwhelming sense

654
00:39:56.199 --> 00:40:05.159
<v Speaker 2>of fear. I've I've had all sorts of animals from

655
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:10.960
<v Speaker 2>hunting or firefighting. I've been ten feet from a charging moose.

656
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:17.280
<v Speaker 2>I've had you know, I've killed five bear. I've you know,

657
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:21.119
<v Speaker 2>been able to smack an elk on the butt, you know,

658
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:25.159
<v Speaker 2>like I've been up on stuff, dogs, rattlesnakes. I couldn't

659
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:27.920
<v Speaker 2>tell you how many times. This wasn't anything like that.

660
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:32.039
<v Speaker 2>This made me feel like a child, very scared to

661
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:37.480
<v Speaker 2>my core, and I was kind of sick afterwards too.

662
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:41.639
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't throwing up, but I was like shaky and

663
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:47.679
<v Speaker 2>sweaty and like just kind of very distraught for a

664
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:52.360
<v Speaker 2>couple hours. I didn't really sleep that night, and so

665
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.480
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if infrasound was a thing, or if that's

666
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:58.719
<v Speaker 2>even a thing. I don't know. I didn't have any

667
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.079
<v Speaker 2>sort of major long term or anything like that, but

668
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I definitely was shook up. Uh So I look up

669
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:11.920
<v Speaker 2>at these eyes and yeah, man, I yelled at this thing.

670
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:16.239
<v Speaker 2>And I don't I don't. I don't think that the

671
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:18.719
<v Speaker 2>words I chose were my own. I feel like I

672
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:21.239
<v Speaker 2>had some help from the big man upstairs or something,

673
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:25.639
<v Speaker 2>because when I yelled at this thing, I didn't even

674
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:28.559
<v Speaker 2>think about it. I literally looked at it and shaking

675
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:30.840
<v Speaker 2>like a leaf. I yelled at this thing and.

676
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.840
<v Speaker 6>Yelled, Jesus Christ is king like that, and I like

677
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 6>ran inside or right before I know, I was like

678
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:39.400
<v Speaker 6>this and then and I was kind of like this

679
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:42.000
<v Speaker 6>and it and then I heard it say it back,

680
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:44.119
<v Speaker 6>and I don't know if that was in my head,

681
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:46.679
<v Speaker 6>but it was slow and it was a weird.

682
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Almost robotic cadence to the to the speech and that's

683
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:55.760
<v Speaker 2>all it was. And then I went inside and it was,

684
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:58.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, a mess. It was a mess inside, and

685
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:03.599
<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay. And since that point, I've only

686
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:06.599
<v Speaker 2>had one other encounter, and it was two weeks after

687
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:13.079
<v Speaker 2>the point. I got a food trailer and I was

688
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.440
<v Speaker 2>doing inventory at the end of the night. It's like

689
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:21.039
<v Speaker 2>eleven o'clock or something on a Saturday, and so I

690
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:23.199
<v Speaker 2>was I was doing inventory and I walked out and

691
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:28.079
<v Speaker 2>this thing was like five feet behind me and I

692
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:31.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't see it. But as soon as I went to

693
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:34.000
<v Speaker 2>step down out of my trailer onto my step stool

694
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:37.639
<v Speaker 2>to get to them my driveway, it shifted its weight

695
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:41.000
<v Speaker 2>intentionally and I could hear it and it may in

696
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:43.559
<v Speaker 2>the air while I'm stepping to the ground, which is

697
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:47.400
<v Speaker 2>only six seven inches or maybe a foot right. It

698
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:49.920
<v Speaker 2>scared me so bad, and that split second in the air,

699
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:54.400
<v Speaker 2>I rolled my ankle so hard. I'm fit. I'm agile. Dude.

700
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:58.239
<v Speaker 2>I butchered my like, and I was like, because it

701
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:00.119
<v Speaker 2>was like I just heard it in the weight of

702
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:03.760
<v Speaker 2>it just shifting its foot just sounded so massive, and

703
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:07.679
<v Speaker 2>he just scared me. Dude. I literally ran inside that time.

704
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:11.480
<v Speaker 2>So that's that's what I got, man, that's those are

705
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:16.199
<v Speaker 2>those are my sasquatch, bigfoot, whatever you want to call him.

706
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:18.719
<v Speaker 2>We call him frogman back here because we got all

707
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:21.159
<v Speaker 2>these frogs. And for the first year and a half

708
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 2>we had all these frogs, and then after the what

709
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:27.280
<v Speaker 2>I believed to be the two encounter, we haven't had

710
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:29.599
<v Speaker 2>any frogs since. I'm like, maybe just eat all the frogs.

711
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:34.679
<v Speaker 1>What was the approximate a year, time of year that

712
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:40.559
<v Speaker 1>you had your last event happenait fall of last year? Okay,

713
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:41.519
<v Speaker 1>fall twenty five?

714
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wow, fall twenty five. So there's two encounters. Fall

715
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:52.800
<v Speaker 2>twenty five, there was the first so we moved in

716
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:58.360
<v Speaker 2>the summer of twenty four was our first year here,

717
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.000
<v Speaker 2>so it's the spring of twenty five, and then the

718
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:07.519
<v Speaker 2>fall of twenty five. Were those two other encounters?

719
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:13.400
<v Speaker 1>So okay, yeah, have you talked to your neighbor at all,

720
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:15.960
<v Speaker 1>any of your neighbors to see if they're having things

721
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:18.119
<v Speaker 1>happen or is it you're just dealing with it yourself.

722
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't think a lot of people here and

723
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:25.840
<v Speaker 2>so then may have a mental capacity to be able

724
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:30.360
<v Speaker 2>to even entertain that. Not that they're not intelligent. I

725
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:33.239
<v Speaker 2>just think a lot of people can't even think about

726
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:36.800
<v Speaker 2>that with just everything going on in the world, and

727
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.880
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of one of those things, unfortunately, unfortunately that

728
00:44:40.760 --> 00:44:43.719
<v Speaker 2>I feel like your eyes have been open to something

729
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:48.840
<v Speaker 2>because you've experienced something, you kind of pick up on

730
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:51.400
<v Speaker 2>those things a little bit quicker than your average Joe.

731
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that I've missed

732
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:58.519
<v Speaker 2>fighting fire through the years that probably now would have

733
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:00.559
<v Speaker 2>been like, oh my goodness, what is the you know,

734
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:03.280
<v Speaker 2>but when it's right in your face, it's hard to deny, right,

735
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:09.679
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I I did ask one of my neighbors

736
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:14.000
<v Speaker 2>about it. He's a good, good old marine devil dog,

737
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:21.679
<v Speaker 2>but he's he's like, what, like, never mind. And then

738
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to ask my other neighbor because she's

739
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:26.079
<v Speaker 2>got a bunch of young teenage girls and I don't.

740
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:30.039
<v Speaker 5>Want them getting freaked out. So yeah, and then yeah,

741
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:35.800
<v Speaker 5>so it's it's just it's just, uh, it's interesting. But yeah,

742
00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:38.000
<v Speaker 5>I think the thing that helped me the most through

743
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:41.679
<v Speaker 5>this whole thing was having the my little sister and

744
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:46.000
<v Speaker 5>Dan in that one experience, because finally it's like, Okay,

745
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:51.400
<v Speaker 5>everybody's seeing this, everybody's experiencing this. We're having acorns thrown

746
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:53.800
<v Speaker 5>at us from deep in the woods, like ninety miles

747
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:56.159
<v Speaker 5>an hour, blowing up on my side, and you know

748
00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:58.079
<v Speaker 5>they could hit us, but they're coming to this close.

749
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:02.480
<v Speaker 2>You're like, where's this cut? I mean front flashlighting, nothing,

750
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:06.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, And if it was a human messing around,

751
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:10.559
<v Speaker 2>they would know better around these parts. So because if

752
00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:13.000
<v Speaker 2>if they're not going to get shot by me being

753
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:15.960
<v Speaker 2>weirdo in my backyard, mister would happily oblige.

754
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I mean out there in New England. You're

755
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:24.199
<v Speaker 1>not messing around on people's property. That's not a smart idea.

756
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:25.239
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get taken out.

757
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

758
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you'd kind of mentioned this before we start recording.

759
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:36.119
<v Speaker 1>Are you having stuff going on then inside the house

760
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:36.599
<v Speaker 1>as well?

761
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:37.920
<v Speaker 2>No?

762
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:46.039
<v Speaker 5>No, okay, okay, thank god, that's good. Yeah yeah yeah, no,

763
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:48.440
<v Speaker 5>no weird spiritual activity, man.

764
00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:54.519
<v Speaker 2>I nothing like that. Although I saw some dark stuff

765
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:56.679
<v Speaker 2>in the streets of Seattle, but that's neither here nor

766
00:46:56.679 --> 00:47:00.239
<v Speaker 2>there or a big right But okay, yeah, no know

767
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:03.440
<v Speaker 2>what do they call that the hitchhiker effect? None of that,

768
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:12.559
<v Speaker 2>None of that going on. Yeah, just just very uh,

769
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:16.679
<v Speaker 2>very jarring man, because I don't know how you would.

770
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:19.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you would deal with something like that.

771
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:21.760
<v Speaker 2>And as far as like physically if you needed to.

772
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I got some big guns, but I don't know if

773
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm quick enough or have enough bullets to put one

774
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.719
<v Speaker 2>of those things down, you know what I mean. If

775
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:33.360
<v Speaker 2>not that that's my end all goal, I would rather

776
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:35.880
<v Speaker 2>than just leave me alone. But it did come to

777
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:37.760
<v Speaker 2>a point where I was worried about it because it

778
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:40.960
<v Speaker 2>seemed like one was very interested in my little sister,

779
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:43.400
<v Speaker 2>because every time she would go out and take her

780
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:47.119
<v Speaker 2>dog out at night, she would say, I'm getting whistled

781
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:49.599
<v Speaker 2>at in the woods or whatever. And I thought, there

782
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:52.159
<v Speaker 2>are a couple of times I literally threw one boots

783
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:56.039
<v Speaker 2>and rushed out, slam it across the creek with gun

784
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:58.519
<v Speaker 2>in hand, lighting handed, being like, I'm in a find

785
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:04.159
<v Speaker 2>some weird back here. I did that two three times.

786
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Have you have you heard the whistle yourself?

787
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah?

788
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:09.599
<v Speaker 1>Can you?

789
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

790
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Are you able to replicate that?

791
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Whistling over the clones is probably not not that good?

792
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:19.280
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't. It wasn't any sort of It was just

793
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:26.519
<v Speaker 2>one pitch now the time where there was two. This

794
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:28.719
<v Speaker 2>is the whistles What made me for sure there was

795
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:30.760
<v Speaker 2>two because we heard a whistle off the left heard

796
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:33.800
<v Speaker 2>a whistle off the right within twenty seconds of each other.

797
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:38.119
<v Speaker 2>All right, So whether you're telling hey, you know this

798
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:40.320
<v Speaker 2>or that, I don't know. You know, I've heard the

799
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:43.000
<v Speaker 2>rock click in someplaces, the tree slap in some places,

800
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:47.199
<v Speaker 2>the whistle in some places, and then the animals, you know, Like,

801
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:49.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't have answers for that.

802
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Was it like, was it like, yeah, it was kind of.

803
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:56.199
<v Speaker 2>It was kind of like that. Yeah, it was just

804
00:48:56.199 --> 00:49:02.199
<v Speaker 2>a short yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah.

805
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:05.280
<v Speaker 1>So I go out to this place in Oregon near Oakridge,

806
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:09.679
<v Speaker 1>and the first year I went out there, we're like

807
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:12.119
<v Speaker 1>thirty miles out in the woods in this one area

808
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:20.239
<v Speaker 1>and when this when there's this one young lady out

809
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:26.760
<v Speaker 1>there with us this one time and other times, something

810
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:30.639
<v Speaker 1>will start whistling at her from the woods. And what

811
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I saw happened was that whistle came out from the

812
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>woods and then but then she would do it back

813
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.320
<v Speaker 1>to it, and like for a minute, it was like

814
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:43.119
<v Speaker 1>back and forth, back and forth, but then it started

815
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:46.920
<v Speaker 1>moving away like it was trying to get lower to

816
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:49.280
<v Speaker 1>follow it away. And it was the freakiest thing I've

817
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:51.960
<v Speaker 1>ever seen in my life. It was so weird, dude,

818
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:54.880
<v Speaker 1>but it was. It was that same exact whistle, so yeah.

819
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:56.840
<v Speaker 2>It was it almost sounds like a human whistle, like

820
00:49:56.840 --> 00:50:00.800
<v Speaker 2>a hey career, Hey yep. It was some drawn out

821
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:03.960
<v Speaker 2>thing or like weird pitch or anything. It sounded very like.

822
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.199
<v Speaker 2>That's where I was like, Okay, are there some crazy crackheads.

823
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:09.639
<v Speaker 2>There's not crackheads here, and dang, they'll freeze to death

824
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:12.760
<v Speaker 2>in the winter. You know, it's not the West Coast, So.

825
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't I don't know.

826
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:18.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't know mayor Oh no, she's she's out of

827
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<v Speaker 2>here now. I'm actually right now, so I guess. So yeah,

828
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<v Speaker 2>it's a but yeah, definitely felt that that tension there,

829
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<v Speaker 2>like it was interesting on her and she was, like

830
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<v Speaker 2>I said, she was freaked out a number of times

831
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<v Speaker 2>where she's like, can you take her dog Daisy? She's like,

832
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<v Speaker 2>can you take the easy out tonight? I just don't

833
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<v Speaker 2>want to go outside. I'm freaked out, and I'm like okay,

834
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<v Speaker 2>Like I was like, you can grab the twelve gage

835
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<v Speaker 2>if you want. She's like, no, you can grab any

836
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:51.440
<v Speaker 2>of the other ones. But she's like no, okay, So

837
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:55.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You know, and you've heard you've heard

838
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:57.480
<v Speaker 2>the stories, whether I don't know, maybe I'm sure you

839
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<v Speaker 2>have of them, the ancient ancient, the like native stories

840
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:07.880
<v Speaker 2>of people saying you don't take your women, will take

841
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:11.559
<v Speaker 2>your kids and stuff. And one thing that I find

842
00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:15.440
<v Speaker 2>interesting is in these stories de vlidity of them, I

843
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:19.039
<v Speaker 2>don't know. But with there's a story I heard from

844
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:21.960
<v Speaker 2>a minor that says he got swooped up by one

845
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.719
<v Speaker 2>in the early nineteen hundreds. And then there's another one

846
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:27.960
<v Speaker 2>from a Native American gal who when she was a

847
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:29.800
<v Speaker 2>young girl got swooped up to and they both said

848
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:32.960
<v Speaker 2>that they had pine tar smeared over their eyes when

849
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:36.960
<v Speaker 2>they were taken into the woods. And interesting, yeah, which

850
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:41.559
<v Speaker 2>is interesting. And then in both of these accounts that

851
00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm referring to, I think I heard one of them

852
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:47.599
<v Speaker 2>along with Grimmer. I can't recall another one. I think

853
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:50.800
<v Speaker 2>it was that this is like an old old like

854
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:57.280
<v Speaker 2>prospers like guy prospecting for gold. Yeah. And the other

855
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:00.440
<v Speaker 2>one was a Native gal and she they both said

856
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:02.440
<v Speaker 2>pine tart. But and they both in both these accounts.

857
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:04.760
<v Speaker 2>The reason they stick out my brain is because they

858
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:09.639
<v Speaker 2>both said they conceive children with the Sasquatch. Yeah, and

859
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:14.079
<v Speaker 2>so the guy he that's where it was. It was

860
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:20.519
<v Speaker 2>the it's the inuite guy from Alaska. Who do you

861
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:26.519
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm talking about? Uh, I'm going crazy Sasquatch stories.

862
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:30.480
<v Speaker 2>This guy told this story and he does tours and

863
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:34.599
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. And yeah, he's uh, he lived in

864
00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:39.159
<v Speaker 2>the woods, he's been on West Grammer. I believe he's

865
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:42.000
<v Speaker 2>he's kind of a crazy Indian guy, but he's got

866
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:47.400
<v Speaker 2>some wild stories. But yeah, anyway, both did these accounts

867
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:49.519
<v Speaker 2>that people said they had kids with sasquatch, and they

868
00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:53.000
<v Speaker 2>both reported that they were half hairy, half smooth, and

869
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:56.760
<v Speaker 2>it's like weird. And then on both of these are cases.

870
00:52:57.159 --> 00:52:59.800
<v Speaker 2>The validity I don't know, but there these old accounts.

871
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:05.559
<v Speaker 2>They both managed to escape and in turn, the Sasquatch

872
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:09.559
<v Speaker 2>brutally killed their offspringing in front of them as they

873
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:11.880
<v Speaker 2>were escaping, one guy on canoe in the other gal

874
00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:15.599
<v Speaker 2>while she was crossing the river or something of that nature.

875
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:18.039
<v Speaker 2>I was like, whoa dude. And so I've heard of

876
00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:22.800
<v Speaker 2>people saying they've seen sasquatch skin of deer with their thumbnails,

877
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:27.840
<v Speaker 2>like literally skin one. That's what the minerds said that

878
00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:32.039
<v Speaker 2>it did to their He was I don't know, dude,

879
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:37.159
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's some weird stuff. Do you Are you

880
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:41.559
<v Speaker 2>familiar with the account of in eastern Europe where they

881
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:48.639
<v Speaker 2>had a young sasquatch chained down sixteen forty or whatever

882
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:53.599
<v Speaker 2>it was, right, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I don't know.

883
00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Man, some weird stuff out there, man, definitely. I want

884
00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:00.440
<v Speaker 1>to make sure Mike that you were able to to

885
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:03.440
<v Speaker 1>share everything that you were wanting to talk about on

886
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:04.360
<v Speaker 1>the show today.

887
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, okay, just take a shower. I'm covered in

888
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:11.599
<v Speaker 2>the stinky adrenaline sweat right now reliving that stuff.

889
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:17.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeahre thank you for taking the time to come on

890
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:20.239
<v Speaker 1>the show and to share what you experience out there

891
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:23.800
<v Speaker 1>in Oregon and in southern Maine. I do appreciate it.

892
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:26.000
<v Speaker 1>We don't hear a lot from New England, so anything

893
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:31.119
<v Speaker 1>we can hear from there is definitely important. But thank

894
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:33.159
<v Speaker 1>you so much for coming on. Man. Have you ever

895
00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:37.079
<v Speaker 1>heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon?

896
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:40.079
<v Speaker 1>And you think to yourself, Man, I would love to

897
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:42.679
<v Speaker 1>get out in those woods and experience it for myself.

898
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:47.559
<v Speaker 1>Well guess what this year you can If this is

899
00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:51.960
<v Speaker 1>interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch

900
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Summer Fest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh,

901
00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:59.679
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six. It's going to be even better than

902
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:03.119
<v Speaker 1>the pre previous years. Reason number one, I'll be one

903
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:07.519
<v Speaker 1>of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably I'll

904
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:12.280
<v Speaker 1>say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else,

905
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:18.079
<v Speaker 1>because let's just say sometimes it's well, you just got

906
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:20.440
<v Speaker 1>to be there. We'll leave it that more about looking

907
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:22.960
<v Speaker 1>for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out.

908
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 1>You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching

909
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:33.159
<v Speaker 1>for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not only go

910
00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:37.480
<v Speaker 1>to the festival, but you can also sign up for

911
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:44.519
<v Speaker 1>a track deep in the wild forest outside of Oakridge

912
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:49.480
<v Speaker 1>with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot.

913
00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:53.679
<v Speaker 1>There's only eight spots to sign up for this. And yes,

914
00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:57.400
<v Speaker 1>this will also be filmed for the next chapter in

915
00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:00.840
<v Speaker 1>his documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is

916
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a once in a lifetime deal. It's just trust it's

917
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:08.280
<v Speaker 1>going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket,

918
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:12.639
<v Speaker 1>head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest Dot com and listeners

919
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:18.199
<v Speaker 1>can use the code b SP like Bigfoot Society Podcast

920
00:56:18.760 --> 00:56:20.800
<v Speaker 1>in order to get a two day pass for the

921
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:25.039
<v Speaker 1>price of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla

922
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:30.039
<v Speaker 1>for giving me that code so that you guys can

923
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:35.119
<v Speaker 1>can get a little a little help with the costs there.

924
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the

925
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:43.119
<v Speaker 1>booth in Oakridge this year we can talk about your encounter.

926
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Was able to talk to so many people last year

927
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and the year before. It is an incredible time. You're

928
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:51.719
<v Speaker 1>not going to want to miss it, and I'll see

929
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:56.119
<v Speaker 1>you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to

930
00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:59.400
<v Speaker 1>say something directly to a very specific group of listeners.

931
00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:03.360
<v Speaker 1>If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and

932
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:06.320
<v Speaker 1>if you've seen something that no one can explain, or

933
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:09.440
<v Speaker 1>if you're a National Park ranger or forestry worker who's

934
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:12.320
<v Speaker 1>been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot

935
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:15.880
<v Speaker 1>who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if

936
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence

937
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:22.679
<v Speaker 1>and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about.

938
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:25.920
<v Speaker 1>And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue

939
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:29.840
<v Speaker 1>responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

940
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:34.199
<v Speaker 1>If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

941
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:37.360
<v Speaker 1>or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

942
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.840
<v Speaker 1>happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

943
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:44.760
<v Speaker 1>a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

944
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:48.079
<v Speaker 1>contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

945
00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:51.159
<v Speaker 1>If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

946
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:54.679
<v Speaker 1>spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

947
00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:58.480
<v Speaker 1>or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or

948
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:01.880
<v Speaker 1>anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

949
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:06.719
<v Speaker 1>then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

950
00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:12.000
<v Speaker 1>You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

951
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:14.880
<v Speaker 1>The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

952
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:20.840
<v Speaker 1>carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story,

953
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:25.079
<v Speaker 1>We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

954
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

955
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

956
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:33.639
<v Speaker 1>bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

957
00:58:33.679 --> 00:58:36.519
<v Speaker 1>is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

958
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:39.360
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961
00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:47.960
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00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:50.960
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00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:58.000
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965
00:58:58.000 --> 00:58:59.960
<v Speaker 1>if you or someone you know has had a bigfoote

966
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:03.400
<v Speaker 1>please I'd love to hear from you, so email me

967
00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:06.840
<v Speaker 1>at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start

968
00:59:06.840 --> 00:59:09.679
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970
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00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:20.440
<v Speaker 1>episode today early in ad free and members only episodes

972
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:24.280
<v Speaker 1>every week. Also, it's a place to connect with other

973
00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:26.800
<v Speaker 1>people that are into the Bigfoot subject as much as

974
00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:29.559
<v Speaker 1>you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

975
00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Society until next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

976
00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:35.360
<v Speaker 1>and never stop asking what else might be out there?

977
00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:36.480
<v Speaker 1>And see you in the woods.