Speaker 1: You're listening to BIGFLA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
Speaker 1: this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
Speaker 1: you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
Speaker 1: something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
Speaker 1: quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
Speaker 1: and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
Speaker 1: These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
Speaker 1: To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
Speaker 1: just might change the way you see the woods forever.
Speaker 1: So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. We
Speaker 1: got the privilege of talking to Mike today. Mike is
Speaker 1: an individual I got connected to over through Instagram, I believe,
Speaker 1: and Mike's got some interesting things to share, some experiences.
Speaker 1: We'll be going over into Oregon for a bit with
Speaker 1: some interesting things that happened to Mike out in the
Speaker 1: woods and he's going to share more about that in
Speaker 1: a bit. But welcome to the show, Mike. How are
Speaker 1: you doing today, sir?
Speaker 2: Just good Man, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it absolutely. We were just chatting a bit before
Speaker 1: we hit record, and this is going to be kind
Speaker 1: of a kind of a wild one to be an
Speaker 1: interesting one. The way we're going to do tonight is
Speaker 1: we'll probably chat as we go along, which might be
Speaker 1: a little different than some listeners are used to, but hey,
Speaker 1: that's what we're going to do with this one, so
Speaker 1: it's all good. Feel free to lead us where you
Speaker 1: want this to start out at, and we'll kind of
Speaker 1: chat as we go along.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, sure. So I grew up in southern Orgon,
Speaker 2: and just twenty minutes from my hometown there's a trivial
Speaker 2: Bigfoot live trap that is a big tourist hot spot.
Speaker 2: People go and check it out. Grew up with all
Speaker 2: that bigfoot stickers everywhere, kind of before the big boom
Speaker 2: across the country seem when everybody's back in their cars
Speaker 2: now and whatnot. It's always kind of been that way there,
Speaker 2: Northern California, southern organ It's very well for Sasquatch. Never
Speaker 2: really paid any mind to it. I was going to
Speaker 2: do the ROTC route, joined the Army after high school.
Speaker 2: That didn't pan out for me, thankful for that now,
Speaker 2: but I ended up getting in wildland firefighting, and my
Speaker 2: first season out I was on a This was my
Speaker 2: third fire with a company based off southern Oregon. Gray
Speaker 2: Back is the name of that company, and we were
Speaker 2: on what was the nation's biggest fire at the time,
Speaker 2: and the intensity at fire was so much so that
Speaker 2: trees were exploding from the heat and causing fires to
Speaker 2: start up to a mile and a half away from
Speaker 2: these exploding chunks of tree, and so we were doing
Speaker 2: a process called greeting the green, so we wanted to
Speaker 2: make sure that wasn't fired and started behind us so
Speaker 2: we wouldn't get burnt over. And so we're chopping through thick, thick,
Speaker 2: thick stuff that you know, there's I think the closest
Speaker 2: man made structure where we were at on that fire
Speaker 2: was seventy five miles away and it was a lightning
Speaker 2: lookout tower, so not even a town close by or
Speaker 2: anything like that. We're in the thick of it, eating MRI's,
Speaker 2: you know, stinking, sweating, working hard and well. We had
Speaker 2: been greening the green for about two and a half hours,
Speaker 2: and I was greenhorn back then, but I had been
Speaker 2: hunting for a number of years at that point, learned
Speaker 2: to hunt for really good people, and so my tracking
Speaker 2: skills are probably better than your average bear. Not that
Speaker 2: I'm yeah in maths or anything like that, but I
Speaker 2: had to relieve myself, and so I hauler down the
Speaker 2: line because we all walk in the line about twenty
Speaker 2: feet apart, and we just look for, you know, any
Speaker 2: amber's smoke coming up, because when it goes up, it
Speaker 2: goes as quick. You don't want to get caught in
Speaker 2: between it. So I yelled this big country bumpkin guy
Speaker 2: named Jesse about six foot five, two eighty massive man, Hey, Jesse,
Speaker 2: I gotta take a dump, Dude. I go on this
Speaker 2: big redwood tree. It says okay, okay, and it says go.
Speaker 2: So I'm doing my thing. And if you're not aware
Speaker 2: of redwoods, they have duff, right, and so deaf is
Speaker 2: leaf litter that accumulates underneath the tree. And what it's
Speaker 2: unique about redwood trees is they can get like three
Speaker 2: feet of dof and so it's almost like a foam
Speaker 2: sponginess under these trees in some circumstances, especially when they're
Speaker 2: like an older tree. Right. So I'm burying my stuff
Speaker 2: back up and putting my backpack on, and I look
Speaker 2: on the ground and I noticed, I said, oh my godness,
Speaker 2: are those foot tracks and I'm going up and I
Speaker 2: wear a size eleven and a half boot and I
Speaker 2: go to the first one and I was like, wow,
Speaker 2: family's like toes. And I'm looking at it and it's
Speaker 2: in this duff mind you, so it's not super it's
Speaker 2: not super like pronounced toes right per se. On the
Speaker 2: first one, I noticed, and then I see a lion.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh man, there's more, and I'm following and
Speaker 2: then I noticed there's big tracks and little tracks, and
Speaker 2: like I said, we're out in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2: And it was about on track number seven that I
Speaker 2: saw a perfect, I mean perfect footprint and I'm just
Speaker 2: jaw drop looking at this thing and I'm like, oh man,
Speaker 2: And I got my boot next to it. Eleven and
Speaker 2: a half boot measures out about a football. It was
Speaker 2: right about that footmark, but it was wider than my
Speaker 2: boot and you could specifically see each toe and I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 2: you know. That was my first different counter. I saw
Speaker 2: nine tracks, mom and babe babe tracks, and it's just
Speaker 2: out in the middle of nowhere. It was the fire
Speaker 2: was too crazy. There's people, houses and stuff on the
Speaker 2: edge of the fire farther away where we were getting
Speaker 2: burnt down and nobody's putting on fake sasquat shoes and
Speaker 2: stopping around in the woods right in that circumstance. So
Speaker 2: that was what got me.
Speaker 1: That was really wild.
Speaker 2: Mike.
Speaker 1: So this is you said, within like thirty miles of Applegate, Oregon. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where the trap is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. And
Speaker 1: so the tracks that you saw, how far apart were
Speaker 1: the tracks from each other?
Speaker 2: So it looked to me it looked like a like
Speaker 2: something that if I was doing a big lunch, as
Speaker 2: far as the bigger tracks I could, I could accomplish.
Speaker 2: But then again, you got to think if it was
Speaker 2: a mother and a baby, she's not going to be
Speaker 2: at full pace, right, She's got to keep up with
Speaker 2: her young and her mother. If the baby's walking with her,
Speaker 2: if it's too big for her to carry or whatever
Speaker 2: it was walking side by side with her. Right. There
Speaker 2: was only two of the smaller tracks that that were
Speaker 2: noticeably like, yeah, this is definitely a footprint. And it
Speaker 2: was a little bit bigger than half of her the
Speaker 2: females what I'm assuming to be the female's track, And
Speaker 2: so I would say the gate was probably three and
Speaker 2: a half maybe, and it was pretty good, pretty good.
Speaker 1: Gate gotcha the way could you tell the way it
Speaker 1: seemed to be walking where the tracks lined up one
Speaker 1: in front of the other or side by side, or.
Speaker 2: You know. I was in such awe and right kind
Speaker 2: of disbelief at the moment. I had a to bring
Speaker 2: you back in time. I have a razor two at
Speaker 2: the time, and I was going to take a picture
Speaker 2: of it. And before I took a picture of it,
Speaker 2: the one perfect track, I called that country bunk and
Speaker 2: digested Jesse get over here? What comes running over and
Speaker 2: say slow down? Slow down? He's running and he ends
Speaker 2: up stepping on a stick that's like nine feet away
Speaker 2: and ends up blowing under the duff. It rises up
Speaker 2: and blows all the toes out of the one perfect track,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm losing my mind at him. I
Speaker 2: was like, do you see these these are foot planting
Speaker 2: student He's like, I guess you know, I mean, this
Speaker 2: guy eats grands. He's not he's not right, And I'm
Speaker 2: like and I'm just losing my mind over and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I can't believe you just blew out the one. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I would say they seemed to be I do recall
Speaker 2: that it was there wasn't any station. As far as
Speaker 2: the tracks were very linear. I do remember that that
Speaker 2: they were close together and it wasn't like turning or anything.
Speaker 2: They knew exactly where they're going and they were heading
Speaker 2: that way, and it seemed now that yeah, it probably
Speaker 2: was more in line than yeah, side by side.
Speaker 1: Okay, a few more questions. It's a few more about
Speaker 1: this one. So can you provide the approximate year? And
Speaker 1: you told me the name of the fire, but can
Speaker 1: you say that again? And also are there any other
Speaker 1: location descriptors for the area that you were in?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this was the this was two thousand and eleven,
Speaker 2: summer of twenty eleven, I'd say probably mid June. Spent
Speaker 2: a lot of time. But and so what I remember
Speaker 2: is this was it's like the third day of fire
Speaker 2: that we're on. We ha had a hike sixteen miles
Speaker 2: in off the forestry road to get to our where
Speaker 2: we base camped out. And then we had a we're
Speaker 2: hiking about sixteen miles every day, not including the work,
Speaker 2: just to get to the fire from our camp where
Speaker 2: we could get food. Hello dropped in. So I remember, gosh, man,
Speaker 2: I wasn't at a point where I was running. I
Speaker 2: guess I was in charge of really knowing where we
Speaker 2: were at or anything. I was just figuring out the ropes,
Speaker 2: you know, I was eighteen years old. I do recall
Speaker 2: that there was this area right before, right before we
Speaker 2: got there, there was this big area of large granite boulders,
Speaker 2: granite quartz boulders, like seven eight feet tall and kind
Speaker 2: of like quite a bit without any exposed mountain side,
Speaker 2: Like we're in the mountains and it's steep as hell,
Speaker 2: but it's like these big kind of rocks like almost
Speaker 2: seemed mythical, and it was like, weird, Wow, this is
Speaker 2: beautiful and weird. It's just in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2: And then we went down a valley across the little
Speaker 2: creek and then it was all these big old growths
Speaker 2: and that's kind of where it happened. Okay, I don't
Speaker 2: really have any specifics more than that, but yeah, in
Speaker 2: the in the heart of the southern Oregon.
Speaker 1: Gotcha. And what was the name of the fire again?
Speaker 2: That was the was that the very rock or the
Speaker 2: very point very okay, very point fire, I believe.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, Okay, thank you. Yeah. So so then you have
Speaker 1: that experience where you see these large tracks and that
Speaker 1: kind of that affects you definitely, and then after that
Speaker 1: do you start looking into things or how did what
Speaker 1: kind of path does that aide you on? After that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, that definitely got the cogs movement. I had
Speaker 2: had my first word experience at fourteen with my family
Speaker 2: in the middle of the Lake UFO experience, and that's
Speaker 2: kind of got me down that path. And then so
Speaker 2: I was kind of already introjectory on that, but I
Speaker 2: didn't even think Bigfoot was real or had you know,
Speaker 2: I just thought it was a kooky hitnie thing. So yeah,
Speaker 2: after that, I definitely started looking into it. But podcasts
Speaker 2: weren't really around back then, at least to the point
Speaker 2: where it's on your phone and stuff, So I didn't
Speaker 2: really start hearing other encounters from other people or doing
Speaker 2: serious digging probably until I would say probably after I
Speaker 2: had a couple other UFO experiences. I just started digging
Speaker 2: into the whole topic as a whole and just kind
Speaker 2: of found correlations and then started getting into Bigfoot. And
Speaker 2: then you know, I got an iPhone that I can
Speaker 2: pull up a podcast song, and then I just kind
Speaker 2: of delved into it from there. So I'm not very
Speaker 2: tech savvy, as you know, So it's it's not something
Speaker 2: that I would jump on my desktop at home and
Speaker 2: go research after school. I was I was shooting squirrels
Speaker 2: and Cosmo Rucus you know, gotcha? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Cool? Cool? So what what would you think? The next
Speaker 1: thing that you had some sort of experience that that
Speaker 1: related to sasquatch.
Speaker 2: Was for sure? So, and this is something that we
Speaker 2: were talking about earlier that I and I didn't find
Speaker 2: this correlation until later listening to podcasts where I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if you're familiar with the h I couldn't tell
Speaker 2: you that researchers. Have you seen that the researchers who
Speaker 2: they claimed to have via thermal videotaped a portal with
Speaker 2: sasquatches and all this stuff, and then someone picking up
Speaker 2: on thermal and then the old two old dudes going
Speaker 2: there they both died cancer like three months later. I'm
Speaker 2: talking about. I think Tony Merphle did something about that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, do you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm talking about? Yep. So it was that that
Speaker 2: documentary that it clicked for me, where they had talked
Speaker 2: about in these supposed portals or whatever opened up, or
Speaker 2: I'd heard it on I think a West Grimmer podcast too,
Speaker 2: where someone said they saw a orb and then a
Speaker 2: sasquatch and they're hearing these like loud, almost crunching, metallic,
Speaker 2: crazy sounds, but very metallic sounding. I definitely heard that
Speaker 2: out there in the woods, probably five or six times,
Speaker 2: fighting fire, thinking it was a piece of machinery. I mean,
Speaker 2: use machinery and stuff out there, but you usually hear
Speaker 2: the machinery. It was just that alone standing alone and
Speaker 2: doing well, that's weird, but there's just so much chaos
Speaker 2: and pandemonium and making sure you're not getting purked by fire,
Speaker 2: so it's not really on the forefront of your mind
Speaker 2: at the time, but that is. That's really the only
Speaker 2: other sasquatch encounters that I have that I can tie
Speaker 2: anything too.
Speaker 1: Can you describe a little bit more about what the
Speaker 1: metallic sounds were like that you were hearing those five
Speaker 1: or six times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it was all very similar each time. And
Speaker 2: the weird thing about it was it just it was
Speaker 2: so it was so loud. It was just so loud,
Speaker 2: and so it almost sounded like a car crash where
Speaker 2: it's metal and metal. It almost sounded like I think
Speaker 2: of a panel of the door just like crumbling in
Speaker 2: on itself, really fast and violent, like like whoa like sharp,
Speaker 2: definitely tabic sounding, but just unworldly, like very just kind
Speaker 2: of And I remember one circumstance where we were all
Speaker 2: talking to our boss and it was kind of giving
Speaker 2: us the plan for what's next, and then we heard
Speaker 2: that sound pretty close, probably three four hundred yards away,
Speaker 2: and three quarters of the crew snapped their neck and
Speaker 2: looked into the woods and were like, what is that?
Speaker 2: And they just wrote it off there. It was just
Speaker 2: you know, because a lot of a lot of men,
Speaker 2: if they don't know, they just write things off, especially scary,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: So we all tend to do that sometimes.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, logically, our I think our minds tried to
Speaker 1: do that to save ourselves somehow write it off. Is
Speaker 1: this also in Southwest Oregon and around the same time period.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I thought far six years out there. All
Speaker 2: all the big foot encounters or metallic sounds and those
Speaker 2: footprints all took place in either southern Oregon or in California,
Speaker 2: But really in that Emerald Triangle in the thick gold woods.
Speaker 2: That's where it was happening at.
Speaker 1: So gotcha. Yeah, okay, did any did Bigfoot ever come
Speaker 1: up in conversation between you and any other fire firefighters
Speaker 1: on your crew?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so I I after the footprints, oh man,
Speaker 2: because I was the young buck out there too, And oh,
Speaker 2: I just got hammered by everybody. And like I said,
Speaker 2: that first company I was working for, as great and
Speaker 2: grandioso as they are, they're not They're not very freethinkers,
Speaker 2: very redneck and setting their ways. You know, old dogs.
Speaker 2: You're not going to teach a new trick too. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I just got berated and you know, they're you're crazy.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not talking to you guys ever about
Speaker 2: this again. So yeah, that was that. But then the
Speaker 2: other five years. I ended up leaving that company because
Speaker 2: I just didn't get along with those guys too well.
Speaker 2: And I went to another company, and I had had
Speaker 2: talks with some of those guys, but never experienced anything
Speaker 2: really with that company. We weren't in the think of
Speaker 2: it as much as my first company.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, so that the new company was more understanding about
Speaker 1: what you'd gone through or were they also like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've had stuff happen out here.
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely, definitely. Yeah, plenty of other people who have
Speaker 2: had encounters that I've met over the years, especially men
Speaker 2: who spent their time in the woods that much, for sure.
Speaker 1: Gotcha were they were they talking about like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've seen something or more we've heard something and we've
Speaker 1: seen tracks stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So this is actually I tracks I've met probably from
Speaker 2: the firefighting community out there, probably five or six guys
Speaker 2: who have seen tracks at some point in time. Probably
Speaker 2: another handful of guys who have liked seen like something
Speaker 2: jumped from bush to bush or tree to treat and
Speaker 2: they're like, what was that? That wasn't a bear? Most
Speaker 2: of these guys are avid hunters, know their way around
Speaker 2: the land. Know white animals are out there, aren't you know,
Speaker 2: most of them that killed a bear, they're not. They're
Speaker 2: not too worried about anything out there, you know, and
Speaker 2: it's scares you. You know, you're not especially when you
Speaker 2: don't know what it is. So yeah, but yeah, they
Speaker 2: were much more understanding that company, for sure.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I uh, I the this is a little
Speaker 3: a little off topic, but the speaking of other people's encounters,
Speaker 3: I was I was living in Washington.
Speaker 2: Uh. I was doing custom fireplaces and I had a
Speaker 2: I was listening to a Sasquatch Chronicles and had a
Speaker 2: customer asking me what I was listening to. And I
Speaker 2: was like kind of embarrassed, as like a Sasquatch Chronicles.
Speaker 2: And they're like, oh, is that a podcast? And I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, yeah it is. And and then the
Speaker 2: wife's like, you gotta tell him. You got to tell
Speaker 2: him your encounter. And I was like, oh, what, And
Speaker 2: so he told me there were him and his prior
Speaker 2: and while we're going hunting and juvenile sasquatch there out
Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere, while they're setting up their fire,
Speaker 2: just and other and another ones building a tent, a
Speaker 2: sasquatch came. A young sasquatch came screaming, waving its arms
Speaker 2: over tent through the middle of their camp, pushed the
Speaker 2: old and into the fire, and they just ran straight through,
Speaker 2: screamed in the whole way. They said they left their
Speaker 2: guns their tent. They jumped in the truck and damped
Speaker 2: and I was like, did you ever get your stuff back?
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, we came back three days later with
Speaker 2: a bunch of guns and a bunch of people and
Speaker 2: our stuff and I was like.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I pushed them right in the fire.
Speaker 1: Can you share the I'm sure you can't share the
Speaker 1: exact location, but the region is this like Olympic Peninsula
Speaker 1: or oh.
Speaker 2: You know, uh uh, yeah, it was around that area.
Speaker 2: I forgot about. I did have another encounter out a
Speaker 2: national forest with my daughter and my wife. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: forgot my dogs. I forgot about that one too. That one.
Speaker 2: We can get to that one too, I guess while
Speaker 2: we're on the West coast next. Yeah. This was actually
Speaker 2: probably about six months after I had heard that story.
Speaker 2: Living outside Seattle for like three years and just trying
Speaker 2: to get away from the city. We went out Olimpia
Speaker 2: and did some camping no cell service, and I thought
Speaker 2: it'd be a good idea with my daughter to walk
Speaker 2: around the campsite. There was only us in one other family.
Speaker 2: It was kind of in the middle of summer, but
Speaker 2: it was I guess it was. It was before fourth
Speaker 2: of July, so it wasn't very busy, and there was
Speaker 2: us and the camp hosts, and then another young family
Speaker 2: who had two boys, and I had my daughter who
Speaker 2: was looking six at the time, and the kids are
Speaker 2: kind of playing whatever, and then we settled down eat dinner.
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, you want to go for a
Speaker 2: walk before dinner or before by time. She was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: sure walk and I was like, you want to you
Speaker 2: some you want to do some Sasquatch hoots and she's like,
Speaker 2: gosh sure. So we're doing like big old bard owl hoots.
Speaker 2: And I haven't I haven't been drinking for a couple
Speaker 2: number of years now, but back then I still was
Speaker 2: drinking and I probably had good five beers or so.
Speaker 2: I was feeling pretty good. I was sleeping on dirt. No,
Speaker 2: I was going to sleep good, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So I passed out and I wake at that like
Speaker 4: two thirty three in the morning to what sounds like
Speaker 4: an eight hundred pound owl on top of my head,
Speaker 4: sol loud like.
Speaker 2: I shot up out of bed. I grabbed my forty
Speaker 2: four magnat I cracked that thing back and I'm looking
Speaker 2: and I'm like, my heart's just like oh, I'm sweating
Speaker 2: cold sweats, and I'm like, what's going on. I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's okay, it's okay. My tent's not shaking, it's not moving,
Speaker 2: but it's just sounds like, it's right on top of me.
Speaker 2: And then the next morning, after breakfast, I go out
Speaker 2: and I asked the I was, okay, did you hear
Speaker 2: anything last night to my name? To the guy who's
Speaker 2: closest to us, he's eight hundred yards away or whatever
Speaker 2: with his two boys, He's like, yeah, I think I
Speaker 2: had an owl on top of my trailer. I was like,
Speaker 2: it's actually coming from over that way. I heard exactly
Speaker 2: where it's coming from because I'm in a tent. No,
Speaker 2: it was too loud. It had to be on top
Speaker 2: of my camp. And I was like, dude, I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: I think it was a sasquatch. And then he didn't
Speaker 2: let his kids play with my kid anymore for the
Speaker 2: next two days and I was like, oh, dude, that
Speaker 2: but but it scared him. He like to put his
Speaker 2: kids inside the trailer. Right after that, he's like, we
Speaker 2: need to like well, I mean rightfully, so we'reund minn't
Speaker 2: know where, no cell service and kids kind of.
Speaker 1: Freaking what sorry, before did you say what forest that was?
Speaker 1: Or was it a certain state forest.
Speaker 2: Or oh with the with the yeah, that was the
Speaker 2: Olympia National Park. I should ask my wife. I it
Speaker 2: was in Olympian National Park. I bet she noticed the campsite. Dude.
Speaker 1: Uh, she is good at the sich no properthdays and names.
Speaker 2: Dude, just over here scratching away.
Speaker 1: Somewhere on the Olympic Peninsula. It sounds like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: It was. It wasn't right on the coast, it was.
Speaker 2: It was more in line. It was a like, I
Speaker 2: pay for a campground that's maintained and stuff, but it's
Speaker 2: just wilderness out there. There's no showers, portal pot They
Speaker 2: did have portal and they did have port potties. They
Speaker 2: had two portal bodies, but just nothing. Okay, Wood's beautiful woods, so.
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that was interesting.
Speaker 1: So now would you say those are the main encounters
Speaker 1: then that you had where you experienced something and you're
Speaker 1: like out in the woods and something happened.
Speaker 2: No, okay, No, that's like that's like the little stuff
Speaker 2: happened out west. Surprisingly. I don't know what's going on
Speaker 2: with this jinky charger though I might have to go.
Speaker 2: I'm I know it was working. I just don't want
Speaker 2: to know. I don't know what's going on with this thing.
Speaker 2: It's not okay, it's charging right now. I just don't
Speaker 2: want it to die. I'm going to try to, Okay.
Speaker 2: I like the nervous sweats going through all this right now,
Speaker 2: stinking and stuff. Dude, Laria, I'm not just okay. So
Speaker 2: next I guess is out east. So we moved from Seattle.
Speaker 2: We moved out to me. We got our first house.
Speaker 2: We live in southern May. I was telling you before
Speaker 2: you started up the recording. I had a lady tell me.
Speaker 2: She was like, oh, do you know this creek out
Speaker 2: out in this area? And I was like, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: right in my backyard. She grabbed me by the collar
Speaker 2: and she says, it's haunted. What are you doing there?
Speaker 2: It's like, I got a house right there and I'm
Speaker 2: not moving. This is after a couple of encounters and
Speaker 2: experiences and anyway, Yeah, she got to talk to me
Speaker 2: because I'm my wife and I own a food trailer
Speaker 2: as well, and I have a sasquatch dig around there.
Speaker 2: And most people just you know whatever. But anybody who
Speaker 2: has seen something or whatever, they usually are like they
Speaker 2: want to tell you because people think you're crazy. So
Speaker 2: but yeah, my first encounter out here was I had
Speaker 2: gone to go get some lobster rolls, which are big
Speaker 2: out here totally with my girls and ice cream and
Speaker 2: my sister. She moved out east with us too, from
Speaker 2: the West Coast. She had gotten divorced and she just
Speaker 2: wanted a fresh start. At this point, it had been
Speaker 2: six seven months since we'd been here in Maine, and
Speaker 2: she had herself a boyfriend and they kind of had
Speaker 2: just first started dating at this point in time. They
Speaker 2: were we have a bonfire in our backyard fire pit,
Speaker 2: and they're having a bonfire back there, and it's it's springtime.
Speaker 2: So I got to preface this. The encounters, all the
Speaker 2: encounters that I've had in my behind my house have
Speaker 2: been spring or fall. So that's just when it's happened
Speaker 2: over the spanning two years. Oh, I've been here three
Speaker 2: but over the span of two years, it's been four
Speaker 2: serious encounters. Some other ones where I'm like, is that
Speaker 2: something jumping from that tree to that tree kind of thing?
Speaker 2: Not jumping from tree to tree, but like dashing from build,
Speaker 2: you know, basswood to oak tree. Or there's a couple
Speaker 2: of old growths back there that have enough cover for
Speaker 2: you know, you couldn't see me if I was hiding
Speaker 2: behind it. Definitely not something big if it was sideways, right,
Speaker 2: So anyway, and go ahead and feel free to cut
Speaker 2: me off, because I I'm a chatty cafey sometimes. So
Speaker 2: we get home and they're out there and they're having
Speaker 2: some drinks hanging out, and I go down. I said, hey, Sis,
Speaker 2: what's going on? She's kind of wide eyed and she's
Speaker 2: looking at me kind of crazy, and I'm thinking, is
Speaker 2: this guy being weird to you? Like I'd only met
Speaker 2: him once or twice, and I'm like, I'm like, are
Speaker 2: you okay? And she's like, I don't know, and I like,
Speaker 2: look at him. I'm like angry. She's like it's not him,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what's going on? And he's and then
Speaker 2: I look at him and he's like down at the
Speaker 2: fire and he looks up and he's a wide eyed too,
Speaker 2: and I was like, what's going on? Guys like grabbing, like, hey,
Speaker 2: I always have gun on my gun. I was like,
Speaker 2: what's going on, guys? It's like, what's going on. He's
Speaker 2: like there's something in the woods, and I was like,
Speaker 2: someone's in the woods. And he's like, you, I think
Speaker 2: there's something in the woods. I was like, is it
Speaker 2: a bear? Like what is it. I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's a bear, okay, and he's from the area, so
Speaker 2: you know, we have it. We do have a fisher
Speaker 2: cat in her backyard that goes across. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you're familiar with that, but it's just a big
Speaker 2: inning weasel. But they make crazy screaming. The sounds they
Speaker 2: don't they don't make They're not humanoid on two feet,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But yeah, so this is uh,
Speaker 2: the only time I have experienced the spider crawl, I said,
Speaker 2: I said, so, what's going on? What's going on? He's like,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Things have been whistling at us and
Speaker 2: throwing things at us. I said, what and not that
Speaker 2: this is kind of weird to throw in there, But
Speaker 2: I do think it has a correlation. My younger sister
Speaker 2: was it was her time a month at that point
Speaker 2: of time, and there was a lot there was like
Speaker 2: there was a lot of activity that spring especially, and
Speaker 2: that first encounter seemed like there was two different maybe
Speaker 2: juvenile males is what I the mass, but there was
Speaker 2: definitely one. As I'm looking in my backyard across the creek,
Speaker 2: there's one off to the left, and then there's one
Speaker 2: off to the right on our side of the creek, but.
Speaker 1: You can actually see them, well you see silhouettes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not like in the light of
Speaker 2: the the outside of the light of the fire. But
Speaker 2: the one that was on our side of the creek,
Speaker 2: the spider crawl. I thought this is when I went side,
Speaker 2: I was like, no, it's just not for me, because
Speaker 2: it was like from bush to bush and I was like,
Speaker 2: what is that. You know, I'm going inside, and I
Speaker 2: had seen the one, and oddly enough, there's big basswood tree.
Speaker 2: It's similar to oak seems to be. It's the biggest
Speaker 2: tree in the area. And that is where I've seen
Speaker 2: every time either.
Speaker 5: Where.
Speaker 2: I've seen it numerous times. Peek out m right, I'm like,
Speaker 2: just because it's the biggest vegetation there, That's what I'm nice.
Speaker 2: But so before we go inside and I'll call it quits,
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, this is weird. And before we called
Speaker 2: it quits, we're up on now, up on my back deck,
Speaker 2: which is about thirty feet away from my fire. Fire
Speaker 2: is still ripping and we're having and then I hear
Speaker 2: a whistle. I think it's a human. I grab my
Speaker 2: mag light, which is like twelve hundred lumens. It's waterproof.
Speaker 2: It's super nice, and I like a cop pistol and magline.
Speaker 2: I'm like, boom, Like what is is? Do I got
Speaker 2: someone in my backyard being weird, you know, because we
Speaker 2: have some property and this charter's being walky again. Oh
Speaker 2: my goodness. Anyway, I should probably just go get my
Speaker 2: stinking charger and yeah, so I mag lighted it and
Speaker 2: that's when I saw the spider thing and I was
Speaker 2: like oh. And then from the left, I had like
Speaker 2: like a MLB picture fastball and acorn about an inch
Speaker 2: from my head and blew up on the side of
Speaker 2: my house. I was thrown so hard an acorn. I
Speaker 2: was like oh. And then I was like, I mean,
Speaker 2: we were saying a lot of other words, and then
Speaker 2: my little sister started crying. She was like and she
Speaker 2: just went inside. And Dan's like, can I stay here tonight?
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, dude, that's funny. Like so,
Speaker 2: because you know, they were hanging out. He had had
Speaker 2: a couple of beers and he didn't want to drive,
Speaker 2: but everybody was pretty shook up. So that was the
Speaker 2: first experience here in me.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, So yeah, when you saw spider crawl,
Speaker 1: how quickly was it moving?
Speaker 2: Oh it's creepy, dude, was so creepy. It was trying
Speaker 2: to be quiet. The only reason I picked up on
Speaker 2: it since I heard a teeny little stick break and
Speaker 2: I was like canned over and that's when I had
Speaker 2: the bag light and it was just like like a flash,
Speaker 2: like a furry flash into this thick it's like a
Speaker 2: bunch of fern and it was that other plant, brushy
Speaker 2: plant and very thick. Can't see through it with the flashlight,
Speaker 2: but yeah, it was just maybe a three foot gap
Speaker 2: in between those where it was like, oh what was that?
Speaker 2: So I didn't even get like really colored definition on it.
Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, like actually gray stands out to me,
Speaker 2: but I you know, I don't know. It was all
Speaker 2: within a milliseconds, So it just was weird. So that
Speaker 2: was that was the first encounter. I'm sure you have
Speaker 2: heard the theory that just like any large predator, they
Speaker 2: use waterways as highways. Yeah, so that's not anything new
Speaker 2: on my book as far as being a hunter and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. But so it makes sense springtime, fall
Speaker 2: time use it as a highway, gotcha? I covered in
Speaker 2: nervous sweats right now.
Speaker 1: Dude, Oh, I don't blame you. I mean that man,
Speaker 1: if I was through something like that, that would be
Speaker 1: with me for probably forever. So you were having multiple
Speaker 1: experiences at this one property.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it kind of ramped up a little bit.
Speaker 2: Uh not as far as like there. That's the only
Speaker 2: time where I was definitely sure there was more than one.
Speaker 2: But I almost had the feeling like one of those
Speaker 2: adolescents had a look, had an interest in my little sister.
Speaker 2: She's she's a beautiful young woman, you know, but she
Speaker 2: I remember coming home a couple of times where she's like,
Speaker 2: and you know, my wife was out doing something with
Speaker 2: my daughter or whatever, and it was later or whatever,
Speaker 2: and it was just her and she's like, I don't
Speaker 2: want to take the dogs out. It's weird out there.
Speaker 2: And here's the other thing, the how people talk about
Speaker 2: it just being dead quiet, like unnaturally quiet during these events.
Speaker 2: I've experienced that every single time something weird' spin back here,
Speaker 2: Like no cicadas, no grasshoppers, we got millions of frogs,
Speaker 2: like in the springtime that come out of that creek.
Speaker 2: No frogs, no nothing going on. So that's definitely noteworthy
Speaker 2: as well. But yeah, the I guess the second encounter
Speaker 2: after that, So yeah, she said numerous times, two three
Speaker 2: times where she was like, can you take the dogs out?
Speaker 2: It's it's weird out there, and I'm like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: dogs whatever, no mind, you know, except for I guess
Speaker 2: that'd probably be the next time. So this next experience,
Speaker 2: same place, same house on that now, I went out
Speaker 2: to take my dogs out. It's probably about ten o'clock
Speaker 2: at night on a Tuesday. I have a pit bowl
Speaker 2: and a red nose pit named Waffles. And she's a
Speaker 2: sweet and she's real dumb, and she barks at the mailman.
Speaker 2: She doesn't know what's going on. My other dog though,
Speaker 2: she doesn't mark at anybody. And she's very smart. She's
Speaker 2: shepherd and pitt and lab. I don't know. She's a
Speaker 2: very good dog. She's very smart too, and tough. And
Speaker 2: I was being impatient and didn't even really notice until
Speaker 2: it was kind of too late. She had her tail
Speaker 2: tucked touch in her stomach, which this is the only
Speaker 2: time I've ever seen that dog do that. I've seen
Speaker 2: her stare down a mast it and win you know
Speaker 2: who was trying to bite me, and he was like, oh,
Speaker 2: never mind and ran the other way. She's tough, and
Speaker 2: so I'm like having to drag her off the deck.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, go tee in the back and
Speaker 2: she's like not wanting to even step on the grass.
Speaker 2: She's on my driveway. She doesn't want to go in
Speaker 2: the backyard. And I'm like, well, what's going on? And yeah,
Speaker 2: I literally was dragging Waffles downstairs. What's going on with
Speaker 2: these dogs? Waffles peek of the driveway. Like I said,
Speaker 2: she's not very smart, So I was like, whatever, dumb dog,
Speaker 2: go inside. And then Willow wasn't going on the durt
Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, that's kind of what I
Speaker 2: was like. And then I noticed the tail and I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, what's going on? And so me and
Speaker 2: my neighbors have big I don't know, it's probably thirty
Speaker 2: feet deep of untouched woods that divides our properties, and
Speaker 2: it was in between that finger that separates our property,
Speaker 2: and it was about halfway up into my like maintained
Speaker 2: part of my backyard. So we have three quarters of
Speaker 2: an acre back there, and then it ties into it.
Speaker 2: Then it's the power companies for like acre, and then
Speaker 2: it's a forty acre horse farm, and then it's wilderness,
Speaker 2: so it's there's not any houses or anything in that area.
Speaker 2: I just figure I put that in there. But yeah,
Speaker 2: in between this finger, I look up and I see
Speaker 2: a pair of glowing red eyes, not eyeshine. I've heard
Speaker 2: the glowing thing, and I always thought it was BS
Speaker 2: because I've heard about it before this experience on other podcasts,
Speaker 2: and I was just kind of like maybe suckers were good.
Speaker 2: And they were like in the moment, they seemed like
Speaker 2: they were the size of golf balls, I mean huge,
Speaker 2: like really really big and really really far apart, like
Speaker 2: not Andre the giant, I don't know would do a justice,
Speaker 2: like really far apart. And it was a overwhelming sense
Speaker 2: of fear. I've I've had all sorts of animals from
Speaker 2: hunting or firefighting. I've been ten feet from a charging moose.
Speaker 2: I've had you know, I've killed five bear. I've you know,
Speaker 2: been able to smack an elk on the butt, you know,
Speaker 2: like I've been up on stuff, dogs, rattlesnakes. I couldn't
Speaker 2: tell you how many times. This wasn't anything like that.
Speaker 2: This made me feel like a child, very scared to
Speaker 2: my core, and I was kind of sick afterwards too.
Speaker 2: I wasn't throwing up, but I was like shaky and
Speaker 2: sweaty and like just kind of very distraught for a
Speaker 2: couple hours. I didn't really sleep that night, and so
Speaker 2: I wonder if infrasound was a thing, or if that's
Speaker 2: even a thing. I don't know. I didn't have any
Speaker 2: sort of major long term or anything like that, but
Speaker 2: I definitely was shook up. Uh So I look up
Speaker 2: at these eyes and yeah, man, I yelled at this thing.
Speaker 2: And I don't I don't. I don't think that the
Speaker 2: words I chose were my own. I feel like I
Speaker 2: had some help from the big man upstairs or something,
Speaker 2: because when I yelled at this thing, I didn't even
Speaker 2: think about it. I literally looked at it and shaking
Speaker 2: like a leaf. I yelled at this thing and.
Speaker 6: Yelled, Jesus Christ is king like that, and I like
Speaker 6: ran inside or right before I know, I was like
Speaker 6: this and then and I was kind of like this
Speaker 6: and it and then I heard it say it back,
Speaker 6: and I don't know if that was in my head,
Speaker 6: but it was slow and it was a weird.
Speaker 2: Almost robotic cadence to the to the speech and that's
Speaker 2: all it was. And then I went inside and it was,
Speaker 2: you know, a mess. It was a mess inside, and
Speaker 2: I was like, okay. And since that point, I've only
Speaker 2: had one other encounter, and it was two weeks after
Speaker 2: the point. I got a food trailer and I was
Speaker 2: doing inventory at the end of the night. It's like
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock or something on a Saturday, and so I
Speaker 2: was I was doing inventory and I walked out and
Speaker 2: this thing was like five feet behind me and I
Speaker 2: didn't see it. But as soon as I went to
Speaker 2: step down out of my trailer onto my step stool
Speaker 2: to get to them my driveway, it shifted its weight
Speaker 2: intentionally and I could hear it and it may in
Speaker 2: the air while I'm stepping to the ground, which is
Speaker 2: only six seven inches or maybe a foot right. It
Speaker 2: scared me so bad, and that split second in the air,
Speaker 2: I rolled my ankle so hard. I'm fit. I'm agile. Dude.
Speaker 2: I butchered my like, and I was like, because it
Speaker 2: was like I just heard it in the weight of
Speaker 2: it just shifting its foot just sounded so massive, and
Speaker 2: he just scared me. Dude. I literally ran inside that time.
Speaker 2: So that's that's what I got, man, that's those are
Speaker 2: those are my sasquatch, bigfoot, whatever you want to call him.
Speaker 2: We call him frogman back here because we got all
Speaker 2: these frogs. And for the first year and a half
Speaker 2: we had all these frogs, and then after the what
Speaker 2: I believed to be the two encounter, we haven't had
Speaker 2: any frogs since. I'm like, maybe just eat all the frogs.
Speaker 1: What was the approximate a year, time of year that
Speaker 1: you had your last event happenait fall of last year? Okay,
Speaker 1: fall twenty five?
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, fall twenty five. So there's two encounters. Fall
Speaker 2: twenty five, there was the first so we moved in
Speaker 2: the summer of twenty four was our first year here,
Speaker 2: so it's the spring of twenty five, and then the
Speaker 2: fall of twenty five. Were those two other encounters?
Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, have you talked to your neighbor at all,
Speaker 1: any of your neighbors to see if they're having things
Speaker 1: happen or is it you're just dealing with it yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think a lot of people here and
Speaker 2: so then may have a mental capacity to be able
Speaker 2: to even entertain that. Not that they're not intelligent. I
Speaker 2: just think a lot of people can't even think about
Speaker 2: that with just everything going on in the world, and
Speaker 2: it's kind of one of those things, unfortunately, unfortunately that
Speaker 2: I feel like your eyes have been open to something
Speaker 2: because you've experienced something, you kind of pick up on
Speaker 2: those things a little bit quicker than your average Joe.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that I've missed
Speaker 2: fighting fire through the years that probably now would have
Speaker 2: been like, oh my goodness, what is the you know,
Speaker 2: but when it's right in your face, it's hard to deny, right,
Speaker 2: So yeah, I I did ask one of my neighbors
Speaker 2: about it. He's a good, good old marine devil dog,
Speaker 2: but he's he's like, what, like, never mind. And then
Speaker 2: I'm not going to ask my other neighbor because she's
Speaker 2: got a bunch of young teenage girls and I don't.
Speaker 5: Want them getting freaked out. So yeah, and then yeah,
Speaker 5: so it's it's just it's just, uh, it's interesting. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I think the thing that helped me the most through
Speaker 5: this whole thing was having the my little sister and
Speaker 5: Dan in that one experience, because finally it's like, Okay,
Speaker 5: everybody's seeing this, everybody's experiencing this. We're having acorns thrown
Speaker 5: at us from deep in the woods, like ninety miles
Speaker 5: an hour, blowing up on my side, and you know
Speaker 5: they could hit us, but they're coming to this close.
Speaker 2: You're like, where's this cut? I mean front flashlighting, nothing,
Speaker 2: you know, And if it was a human messing around,
Speaker 2: they would know better around these parts. So because if
Speaker 2: if they're not going to get shot by me being
Speaker 2: weirdo in my backyard, mister would happily oblige.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean out there in New England. You're
Speaker 1: not messing around on people's property. That's not a smart idea.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get taken out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you'd kind of mentioned this before we start recording.
Speaker 1: Are you having stuff going on then inside the house
Speaker 1: as well?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: No, okay, okay, thank god, that's good. Yeah yeah yeah, no,
Speaker 5: no weird spiritual activity, man.
Speaker 2: I nothing like that. Although I saw some dark stuff
Speaker 2: in the streets of Seattle, but that's neither here nor
Speaker 2: there or a big right But okay, yeah, no know
Speaker 2: what do they call that the hitchhiker effect? None of that,
Speaker 2: None of that going on. Yeah, just just very uh,
Speaker 2: very jarring man, because I don't know how you would.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you would deal with something like that.
Speaker 2: And as far as like physically if you needed to.
Speaker 2: I got some big guns, but I don't know if
Speaker 2: I'm quick enough or have enough bullets to put one
Speaker 2: of those things down, you know what I mean. If
Speaker 2: not that that's my end all goal, I would rather
Speaker 2: than just leave me alone. But it did come to
Speaker 2: a point where I was worried about it because it
Speaker 2: seemed like one was very interested in my little sister,
Speaker 2: because every time she would go out and take her
Speaker 2: dog out at night, she would say, I'm getting whistled
Speaker 2: at in the woods or whatever. And I thought, there
Speaker 2: are a couple of times I literally threw one boots
Speaker 2: and rushed out, slam it across the creek with gun
Speaker 2: in hand, lighting handed, being like, I'm in a find
Speaker 2: some weird back here. I did that two three times.
Speaker 1: Have you have you heard the whistle yourself?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Can you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you able to replicate that?
Speaker 2: Whistling over the clones is probably not not that good?
Speaker 2: It wasn't. It wasn't any sort of It was just
Speaker 2: one pitch now the time where there was two. This
Speaker 2: is the whistles What made me for sure there was
Speaker 2: two because we heard a whistle off the left heard
Speaker 2: a whistle off the right within twenty seconds of each other.
Speaker 2: All right, So whether you're telling hey, you know this
Speaker 2: or that, I don't know. You know, I've heard the
Speaker 2: rock click in someplaces, the tree slap in some places,
Speaker 2: the whistle in some places, and then the animals, you know, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't have answers for that.
Speaker 1: Was it like, was it like, yeah, it was kind of.
Speaker 2: It was kind of like that. Yeah, it was just
Speaker 2: a short yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I go out to this place in Oregon near Oakridge,
Speaker 1: and the first year I went out there, we're like
Speaker 1: thirty miles out in the woods in this one area
Speaker 1: and when this when there's this one young lady out
Speaker 1: there with us this one time and other times, something
Speaker 1: will start whistling at her from the woods. And what
Speaker 1: I saw happened was that whistle came out from the
Speaker 1: woods and then but then she would do it back
Speaker 1: to it, and like for a minute, it was like
Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth, but then it started
Speaker 1: moving away like it was trying to get lower to
Speaker 1: follow it away. And it was the freakiest thing I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. It was so weird, dude,
Speaker 1: but it was. It was that same exact whistle, so yeah.
Speaker 2: It was it almost sounds like a human whistle, like
Speaker 2: a hey career, Hey yep. It was some drawn out
Speaker 2: thing or like weird pitch or anything. It sounded very like.
Speaker 2: That's where I was like, Okay, are there some crazy crackheads.
Speaker 2: There's not crackheads here, and dang, they'll freeze to death
Speaker 2: in the winter. You know, it's not the West Coast, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know mayor Oh no, she's she's out of
Speaker 2: here now. I'm actually right now, so I guess. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a but yeah, definitely felt that that tension there,
Speaker 2: like it was interesting on her and she was, like
Speaker 2: I said, she was freaked out a number of times
Speaker 2: where she's like, can you take her dog Daisy? She's like,
Speaker 2: can you take the easy out tonight? I just don't
Speaker 2: want to go outside. I'm freaked out, and I'm like okay,
Speaker 2: Like I was like, you can grab the twelve gage
Speaker 2: if you want. She's like, no, you can grab any
Speaker 2: of the other ones. But she's like no, okay, So
Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, and you've heard you've heard
Speaker 2: the stories, whether I don't know, maybe I'm sure you
Speaker 2: have of them, the ancient ancient, the like native stories
Speaker 2: of people saying you don't take your women, will take
Speaker 2: your kids and stuff. And one thing that I find
Speaker 2: interesting is in these stories de vlidity of them, I
Speaker 2: don't know. But with there's a story I heard from
Speaker 2: a minor that says he got swooped up by one
Speaker 2: in the early nineteen hundreds. And then there's another one
Speaker 2: from a Native American gal who when she was a
Speaker 2: young girl got swooped up to and they both said
Speaker 2: that they had pine tar smeared over their eyes when
Speaker 2: they were taken into the woods. And interesting, yeah, which
Speaker 2: is interesting. And then in both of these accounts that
Speaker 2: I'm referring to, I think I heard one of them
Speaker 2: along with Grimmer. I can't recall another one. I think
Speaker 2: it was that this is like an old old like
Speaker 2: prospers like guy prospecting for gold. Yeah. And the other
Speaker 2: one was a Native gal and she they both said
Speaker 2: pine tart. But and they both in both these accounts.
Speaker 2: The reason they stick out my brain is because they
Speaker 2: both said they conceive children with the Sasquatch. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: so the guy he that's where it was. It was
Speaker 2: the it's the inuite guy from Alaska. Who do you
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about? Uh, I'm going crazy Sasquatch stories.
Speaker 2: This guy told this story and he does tours and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. And yeah, he's uh, he lived in
Speaker 2: the woods, he's been on West Grammer. I believe he's
Speaker 2: he's kind of a crazy Indian guy, but he's got
Speaker 2: some wild stories. But yeah, anyway, both did these accounts
Speaker 2: that people said they had kids with sasquatch, and they
Speaker 2: both reported that they were half hairy, half smooth, and
Speaker 2: it's like weird. And then on both of these are cases.
Speaker 2: The validity I don't know, but there these old accounts.
Speaker 2: They both managed to escape and in turn, the Sasquatch
Speaker 2: brutally killed their offspringing in front of them as they
Speaker 2: were escaping, one guy on canoe in the other gal
Speaker 2: while she was crossing the river or something of that nature.
Speaker 2: I was like, whoa dude. And so I've heard of
Speaker 2: people saying they've seen sasquatch skin of deer with their thumbnails,
Speaker 2: like literally skin one. That's what the minerds said that
Speaker 2: it did to their He was I don't know, dude,
Speaker 2: It's just it's some weird stuff. Do you Are you
Speaker 2: familiar with the account of in eastern Europe where they
Speaker 2: had a young sasquatch chained down sixteen forty or whatever
Speaker 2: it was, right, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: Man, some weird stuff out there, man, definitely. I want
Speaker 1: to make sure Mike that you were able to to
Speaker 1: share everything that you were wanting to talk about on
Speaker 1: the show today.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, okay, just take a shower. I'm covered in
Speaker 2: the stinky adrenaline sweat right now reliving that stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeahre thank you for taking the time to come on
Speaker 1: the show and to share what you experience out there
Speaker 1: in Oregon and in southern Maine. I do appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We don't hear a lot from New England, so anything
Speaker 1: we can hear from there is definitely important. But thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on. Man. Have you ever
Speaker 1: heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon?
Speaker 1: And you think to yourself, Man, I would love to
Speaker 1: get out in those woods and experience it for myself.
Speaker 1: Well guess what this year you can If this is
Speaker 1: interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch
Speaker 1: Summer Fest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. It's going to be even better than
Speaker 1: the pre previous years. Reason number one, I'll be one
Speaker 1: of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably I'll
Speaker 1: say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else,
Speaker 1: because let's just say sometimes it's well, you just got
Speaker 1: to be there. We'll leave it that more about looking
Speaker 1: for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out.
Speaker 1: You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching
Speaker 1: for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not only go
Speaker 1: to the festival, but you can also sign up for
Speaker 1: a track deep in the wild forest outside of Oakridge
Speaker 1: with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: There's only eight spots to sign up for this. And yes,
Speaker 1: this will also be filmed for the next chapter in
Speaker 1: his documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is
Speaker 1: a once in a lifetime deal. It's just trust it's
Speaker 1: going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket,
Speaker 1: head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest Dot com and listeners
Speaker 1: can use the code b SP like Bigfoot Society Podcast
Speaker 1: in order to get a two day pass for the
Speaker 1: price of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla
Speaker 1: for giving me that code so that you guys can
Speaker 1: can get a little a little help with the costs there.
Speaker 1: Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the
Speaker 1: booth in Oakridge this year we can talk about your encounter.
Speaker 1: Was able to talk to so many people last year
Speaker 1: and the year before. It is an incredible time. You're
Speaker 1: not going to want to miss it, and I'll see
Speaker 1: you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to
Speaker 1: say something directly to a very specific group of listeners.
Speaker 1: If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and
Speaker 1: if you've seen something that no one can explain, or
Speaker 1: if you're a National Park ranger or forestry worker who's
Speaker 1: been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot
Speaker 1: who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if
Speaker 1: you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence
Speaker 1: and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about.
Speaker 1: And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue
Speaker 1: responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.
Speaker 1: If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,
Speaker 1: or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something
Speaker 1: happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're
Speaker 1: a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under
Speaker 1: contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.
Speaker 1: If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a
Speaker 1: spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,
Speaker 1: or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or
Speaker 1: anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,
Speaker 1: then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.
Speaker 1: You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: The world needs to hear what you've been forced to
Speaker 1: carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story,
Speaker 1: We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank
Speaker 1: you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.
Speaker 1: Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is
Speaker 1: bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth
Speaker 1: is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you
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Speaker 1: and never stop asking what else might be out there?
Speaker 1: And see you in the woods.