WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.599 --> 00:00:11.800 Hey, everybody, welcome to Games Mornings with Me Jeff Grub, 2 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:14.960 your host from giant bomb dot com. Thank you for 3 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:18.120 tuning in. In this episode, we're gonna be talking about 4 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:22.519 a big update launching early for Nintendo and communicating with 5 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:25.760 sea creatures in the return of a classic. It's gonna 6 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:27.600 be a good one because we have jan at Choa 7 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:29.839 on the show. Jan how are you doing. 8 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:35.240 I'm ready to flip and do tricks for fish small fish, 9 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:39.039 jump through hula hoops and do the cool thing where 10 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:41.600 you're like you're clapping and you're going back and skating. 11 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:45.799 Oh yeah, or or or or seals. Right, okay, but 12 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:47.039 you're not I know what you mean. I know what 13 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:50.920 you mean. E e yes, yeah, absolutely. We'll explain all 14 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:53.079 that here in a second. But if you're a Star 15 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:56.399 Trek four fan, you already know what to expect, everybody. 16 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:56.520 So just hang in. 17 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:58.600 Wow, that was how I humpback whales, But don't worry 18 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:00.759 about it. How you doing? 19 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:05.760 I think still at a good seven? A good seven? 20 00:01:06.359 --> 00:01:09.439 Yeah? Oh okay, listen, if we dial in this year 21 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:13.400 at a seven, I wouldn't trade that. 22 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:14.799 I would take that in an instant. 23 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:19.760 Yeah, no, not at all. I was the thing that 24 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:22.120 no one ever tells you grub about having a short 25 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:29.040 dog is their tummies will just constantly get wet and ms. 26 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:32.200 It's a little dryer now here in the Bay Area. 27 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:35.760 Somehow this little dog's tummy just gets wet whenever we 28 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:38.280 go out on a walk. I'm just curious. It's to like, 29 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:40.840 how how is this happening? Why why do you constantly 30 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:42.159 need a towel on your tummy? 31 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:45.040 Yeah? So yeah, like one of them like truffle pigs, 32 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:50.519 like or those like wires you use that to find 33 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:52.959 water or whatever. It's like one of them dogs. They 34 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:55.280 just have the magic power to find wetness wherever it is. 35 00:01:55.359 --> 00:02:00.439 My my cat is bad. It has a drinking problem. 36 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:03.719 H He goes in to get to the fountain with 37 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:05.680 a little fountain for the catch. It's like running water 38 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:08.599 and he just puts his whole head or sheet as it's. 39 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:09.800 The girl puts her whole. 40 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:12.800 Head under the water and every day, basically the whole 41 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:15.840 day or head is just wet, just constantly. Hand say, okay, 42 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:17.759 I mean she knows she didn't goes and like licks 43 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:20.280 the water like she's supposed to, but she just likes 44 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:22.439 having a wet head, it's it's a weird cat. I 45 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:22.879 like it. 46 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:27.520 I seen people drink things weird, so I'm not gonna 47 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:29.719 blame it on the pets. Yeah, I think it's just 48 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:30.639 drinking things. 49 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:31.560 Uh huh. 50 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:32.319 Absolutely. 51 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:34.719 I try to drink things weird every once in a while, 52 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:36.800 just you know, put the straw in, put your finger 53 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:38.719 on the end of the straw, take the straw out. 54 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:40.120 Drink the water out of the straw. 55 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:45.639 Still do that, Yeah, exactly, all right. We should explain ourselves. 56 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:49.319 We're a giant Bomb. We're independent games media. We're out 57 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:51.560 here on our own, but with you at our backs. 58 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.199 By going to giant bomb dot com slash join, we 59 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:56.000 can continue to do the cool stuff that we get 60 00:02:56.039 --> 00:02:58.840 to do here. 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This is from 93 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:39.079 Salamano Akamatsu, starting off with a quote. Here, several new 94 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:42.920 Echo the Dolphin products and games are officially in development. 95 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:47.120 Developer A and R Itelier announced an Rlier is a 96 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:50.759 studio founded in half Moon Bay, California by veteran game developers, 97 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:54.439 including the original of the creators of Echo the Dolphin 98 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:58.839 that includes Ed ann Ziada Annunziata. I think it's how 99 00:04:58.879 --> 00:04:59.240 you say it. 100 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:00.680 Who was the Yeah. 101 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:04.480 The chief creative officer at A and R previously announced 102 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:07.839 plans to release remastered versions of the Genesis games Echo 103 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:10.360 the Dolphin and Echo the Tides of Time, as well 104 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:12.600 as develop a third Echo the Dolphin game. So that 105 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.600 seems to be the plan here is, let's remaster these 106 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:19.600 old Genesis games and then also make a whole new 107 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:22.240 two D game. I'm assuing because they're same, third, because 108 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:24.759 there was some other Echo the Dolphin games later, I don't. 109 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:26.879 I guess we'll have to see exactly what this all ends. 110 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:27.319 Up looking like. 111 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.920 But okay, cool, I mean, first of all, why not 112 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:34.879 the way Sega's been operating where they're like, hey, we 113 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:36.959 will We're gonna remake a bunch of our stuff. We're 114 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:41.560 gonna make new entries in Crazy Taxi and all these 115 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:43.800 other like Shanobi, all this other stuff, and then the 116 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:46.519 stuff that they don't do well, they've worked with partners 117 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:48.600 to get like Streets of Rage four made and that 118 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:50.920 went really well. So Sega just seems to have those 119 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:52.680 stuff kind of like in a position where they can 120 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:55.759 easily just hand stuff off to someone who does want 121 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:57.680 to do something with it. So why not do that 122 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.560 with Echo the Dolphin. My question, do you jen is 123 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:04.519 does Echo the Dolphin play in twenty twenty six and beyond. 124 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:09.360 Uh, well grub everything old is new again, And I 125 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:12.319 can't say that there's a lot of competition in terms 126 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:18.160 of dolphin, let alone aquatic games. So for sheer novelty's 127 00:06:18.199 --> 00:06:21.399 sake and nostalgia, I feel like this could do well. 128 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:24.879 And you mentioned it at the beginning of this story, 129 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:27.519 but the Shanobi game really popped off. A lot of 130 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:29.639 us really liked it. It wound up on our top 131 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:32.959 ten of the year. So I definitely see a world 132 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:35.639 where an Echo the Dolphin game, Whether it's a remaker, 133 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:41.199 A brand new game could be absolutely banging. It's interesting 134 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:43.160 that it's in half Moon Bay because that's like twenty 135 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:45.639 minutes away from me. Let me in, Let me, let 136 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:47.680 let me let me. I want to see the dolphins. 137 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:50.399 I want to see the Yeah, the dolphins. 138 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:51.360 Show us the dolphins. 139 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:54.959 I was trying to like remember, like what other dolphin 140 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:58.920 games have I played Dolphin Olympics too, the flash game 141 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:02.040 is that? Is that still mine? Anybody? I want to know. 142 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:04.519 I was able to get like that my dolphin to 143 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:07.120 like Pluto or whatever, get it way onto outer space. 144 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:07.959 That was good stuff. 145 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:12.920 Yeah. Hey, if this is like a bigger game, I 146 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:14.680 guess you know it's a two D versus three D. 147 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:17.759 If it's a big three D game, people in chat say, 148 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:20.639 man Eater, but with Echo the Dolphin, Like clearly not 149 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:24.519 exactly that, but they made that like a fun swimming 150 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.680 around upgrading your your Shark game. You could probably do 151 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:31.439 something similar with Echo here. I would like it to 152 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:35.399 be a three D Metroidvania with the dolphin underwater. 153 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:36.439 That's what I want. 154 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:39.079 I think that would be really fun to get upgrades 155 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:43.120 through your Dolphin and that unlocks ocean doors or something 156 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:46.079 I don't know, temples under under the water. I think 157 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:48.399 that'd be fun. You just do an. 158 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:53.399 At a certain tone that it resonates that it moves rocks. 159 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:58.839 Now, yeah you war foos row dolphin there, Yeah, there 160 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:04.920 you go. Yeah ah ah, there is. Of course, there 161 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:07.279 was a time when I thought this was happening before 162 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:12.720 yuh yeah, me and I heard some chittering noises from 163 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:15.240 Sega that they were teasing something with and we put 164 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:17.519 that under well, we put it. We pretended to put 165 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:22.079 it underwater by slowing it down in premiere and playing 166 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:25.079 it on our podcast. We're like, well that clearly those 167 00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:27.560 are dolphins sounds. And that turned out to be Hyenas, 168 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:30.160 which is that game that never came out and Sega canceled. 169 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:34.919 Yeah yeah, I distinctly remember when you brought up that 170 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:37.759 recording on an episode of Game As Mornings from a 171 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:41.440 while back now. And this just proves how patient and 172 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:46.000 polite Lucy James is, because she politely was like, uh 173 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:50.600 huh okay, yeah, sure, okay, yeah, I go to the dolphin. 174 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:54.639 Uh It's like, okay, well, thank you for humoring me, Lucy. 175 00:08:55.759 --> 00:08:58.000 I think that we made this happen, though. I think 176 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:01.720 they saw that clip and the lad look clearly the 177 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:05.679 children crave Echo, and well here we are. 178 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:10.559 Yeah, no word yet on win for any of this stuff. 179 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:15.159 Grub My pitch for an Echo the Dolphin game in 180 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:18.960 addition to a remake is just make a space game 181 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:24.919 but underwater. I want to do barrel rolls, surf and 182 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:27.080 shoot echo sonar beams. 183 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:30.200 Oh, that's a star Fox sixty four. But Echo the 184 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:32.919 Dolphin is not a bad idea that could go. There, 185 00:09:32.919 --> 00:09:37.480 you go, cut the check sega, we're over here. Well 186 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:39.919 we'll see at some point. I don't know. I wonder 187 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:42.879 if they plan to show up anywhere like a GDC 188 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:44.759 or Summer game fest with anything. 189 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:47.559 We'll have to wait and see. But it's like, I 190 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:49.759 don't I don't know. They could also. 191 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:53.159 I know that this is tied to an r aelier, 192 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:58.200 but just give some assets over to the RGG guys, 193 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:01.279 make them. Let them make a Yakuza Echo the Dolphin game. 194 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:05.360 At least have them put Echo in a Yaku's game. 195 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:10.240 Absolutely right, there should be a whole dolphin subplot in 196 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:10.879 one of those games. 197 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:13.799 Why was there not an Echo the Dolphin summon in 198 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:16.799 Yakuza Like a dragon in Hawaii? 199 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:18.799 There should be there should be a new one that 200 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:21.639 what they should do is basically a one to one 201 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:26.600 retelling of Acevantera Pet Detective. Make that a like a thing, 202 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:28.559 and then they just fix all the problematic stuff. So 203 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:31.080 we get our generation, our generations as if it's not 204 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:35.559 my generation, our generation's acepinter a Pet Detective without the bullshit. 205 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:37.320 Yeah all right. 206 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:40.039 The Disney Afternoon Collection seems to be coming to Nintendo 207 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:43.480 Switch to and Switch. This is from Nintendo Everything. The 208 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:46.440 Disney Afternoon Collection appears to be coming to Nintendo Switch 209 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:49.679 to and Switch one loose. New listings for the game 210 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:54.080 have just appeared on the ESRB website. Interestingly, Atari appears 211 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:57.799 to be publishing. Captom originally released the Disney Afternoon Collection 212 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:02.080 in partnership with Digital Eclipse in twenty seventeen. Fans were 213 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:04.879 disappointed with the package, or that that the package never 214 00:11:04.960 --> 00:11:07.440 came to Nintendo Switch, but it looks like that's finally 215 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:12.480 being rectified yeah again with Atari handling the publishing on this. 216 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:17.360 For the Switch version, the collection always included Chipindale Rescue Rangers. 217 00:11:17.559 --> 00:11:21.440 Chippindale Rescue Rangers Too, which is a really Latens game 218 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:26.919 that's surprisingly very good Ducktails, Ducktails Too, Darkwing Duck and Tailspin. 219 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:27.960 All those are. 220 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:31.600 Actually pretty goods. They're all Capcom games. They're like really solid. 221 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:35.279 Let's see here, they have like stuff like some of 222 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:37.240 the new features got added, like a boss rush mode 223 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:39.440 and stuff like that. Yeah. 224 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:41.240 Cool that this is finally happening. 225 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:44.799 Interesting that, like Atari are the ones making it happen 226 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:47.000 kind of a wonder. It's like, oh, I wonder how 227 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:50.240 that went down, Like they just noticed this and we're like, hey, 228 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.240 do you want us to come handle that for you? 229 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:56.639 Or Disney sought them out? It's or I guess Capcom 230 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:58.840 was probably the one that published it originally Capcom and 231 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:02.279 or Disney. Yeah, did they seek out help and Atari's 232 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:04.720 handling that? I mean, Atari probably does have a lot 233 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:09.879 of specific experience and stuff like this now after like 234 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:13.639 making like releasing retro games their whole thing by like 235 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:16.799 with like purchasing night Dive and all that stuff. So yeah, 236 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:18.840 I wonder if this is a new side of that 237 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:21.120 business for them. And at the very least, it's nice 238 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:22.960 to see this game that we were kind of always 239 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:25.240 hoping would come to the Switch finally come to the Switch. 240 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:27.840 Yeah, I can't say that I ever checked out these 241 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:31.080 games grub because I think playing Lion King on the 242 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:35.639 Genesis really traumatized me because of how difficult it was 243 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:38.159 for a child to play that. I wound up not 244 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:42.639 checking any other additional Disney games out around that generation. 245 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:49.080 So you know, I'm always down for some Chip and Dale. Yes, Ducktails, 246 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:53.200 I'd love to hear a midi or very garbled up 247 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:58.080 version of that theme theme song. It should be a banger. 248 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:00.360 And also I think the world needs more or dark 249 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:00.799 Wing Duck. 250 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:05.080 Yeah, I'm surprised we haven't gotten more dark Wing Duck. 251 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:09.240 Did we? And I didn't notice? I suppose I know that. 252 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:14.759 We had a new Duck Tails seat cartoon. I swear 253 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:20.360 we did because like David Tennant was Scrooge right, and 254 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:24.080 we had the Chippendale's movie right that came out recently. 255 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.080 But yeah, nothing nothing with dark Wing Duck. 256 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:29.600 Hmm. Yeah, we should get more dark Wing Duck that 257 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:32.320 and again I'm surprised that hasn't happened that and like 258 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:38.360 Gargoyles should also return. People pointed out like, oh yeah, 259 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:42.759 Digital Eclipse, which handled this is now also Atari. 260 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:44.279 So that's how that went down. That makes sense. 261 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:47.480 I was like getting my hopes of like man Atari 262 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:49.440 is just out there, like making these deals happen. 263 00:13:49.759 --> 00:13:51.039 Maybe they can finally get. 264 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:54.120 Me Castlevania Symphony of the Night on the Switch, which 265 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:58.240 somehow still hasn't happened. It probably still won't happen, though, 266 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:02.320 all right, this is its great to see. I think, 267 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:06.159 you know, between this and there was that like really 268 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:12.360 lightweight metrode Vania, Mickey Mouse Game, Mickey Illusion, Illusion Island. 269 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:15.279 Yeah, yeah, neat, that took. 270 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:17.399 A while to get from Switch to the other consoles, 271 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:19.039 but that happened, and it was like, I wonder if 272 00:14:19.039 --> 00:14:20.600 they're going to go the other way with this that 273 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:23.559 finally did happen. I don't know, just these like Mickey 274 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:29.159 Mouse games and like their cartoon adaptation games. I kind 275 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:31.039 of was wondering if they would do even more after 276 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:34.600 Illusion Island. Doesn't seem like that's necessarily going, like it's 277 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:36.600 not a gold rush at the very least, but they 278 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:39.200 should probably just keep plugging away at that stuff, right. 279 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:42.600 Yeah, definitely, one hundred percent. I think Illusion Island was 280 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:45.639 it's high it had an exclusive deal to be on 281 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:47.360 the Switch for a while, and I think that might 282 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:52.399 have hampered its performance initially yes, you know, if that 283 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:54.519 was able to come out on all platforms. I know 284 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:56.799 that the switch is often targeted as like, oh, this 285 00:14:56.879 --> 00:14:58.759 is a family console, this is a kid console. 286 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:01.200 But I don't know. 287 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:03.039 Maybe it would have just been easier for some people 288 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:06.240 to just play on a PlayStation or an Xbox in 289 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:11.159 the living room. Yep, we we should have a Batman 290 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:14.039 style dark Wing Duck game, crub, I can't get over it. 291 00:15:14.679 --> 00:15:17.000 Yeah, there should be a There should be an Arkham 292 00:15:17.639 --> 00:15:20.960 dark Wing duck or just a dark Wing duck that 293 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:24.679 place exactly like the Batman for nes. But like so, 294 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:26.960 just like a modern retro game or something like that. 295 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:27.919 I would love that as well. 296 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.559 Give me bonkers. Does anyone remember Bonkers out there? 297 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:33.600 I don't know if I remember bonkers? Is that with 298 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:33.919 a Z? 299 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:37.960 I don't bonkers? I don't remember if it was a Z. 300 00:15:38.159 --> 00:15:39.960 But I think that's where I first learned about the 301 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:40.879 word marsupial. 302 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:47.200 Oh okay, there was a video game called Marsupialami or 303 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:48.960 something like that that I was like, and I took 304 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:50.840 me forever to decode that it was trying to say 305 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:53.799 marsupial and the character was a marsupial. But I was 306 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:57.799 very stupid and couldn't understand it all right, let's see here. 307 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:00.799 Going on to the next story, Nintendo's the share price 308 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:03.480 drops are dropped to thirty three percent in the last 309 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:07.440 five months in Japan. This is from Chris Scullion at VGC. 310 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:11.440 As noted by game Spark, Nintendo's share price dropped to 311 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:14.480 nine hundred and fifty en, which is about sixty two 312 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:17.799 dollars and seventy cents on Tuesday, the first time the 313 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:20.759 price has dropped below ten thousand end since April twenty 314 00:16:20.799 --> 00:16:24.200 twenty five. Back in August twenty twenty five, the share 315 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:27.759 price reached a high point of fourteen thousand, seven hundred 316 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:30.240 and ninety five yen, and that's about ninety three dollars, 317 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:33.000 the highest share price ever recorded for the company, but 318 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:36.240 has dropped notably since then. It's worth pointing out August 319 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:39.240 kind of right there, that first batch of switch twos launching, 320 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:41.960 and the kind of the first report from Nintendo about 321 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:44.960 how well the system was doing in that moment. While 322 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:48.200 the reasons for the company's rise and fall in share 323 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:51.440 price can only ever be speculated, it appears likely that 324 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:53.600 the record high in August twenty twenty five was due 325 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:56.320 to the switch to. The subsequent dropped then can likely 326 00:16:56.360 --> 00:16:59.440 be attributed to such factors as a slowing of switch 327 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:03.240 to sales over Christmas, albeit still comfortably outselling its predecessor 328 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:07.359 at this stage, and a lack of Killer app six 329 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:11.519 months into the consul's life. I know that Circin Toto, 330 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:15.839 friend of the site, he had a blog post about this, 331 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:20.279 or that he speculated those two points that there is 332 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:22.839 there was a bit of a slow down during the 333 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:24.839 holiday season, or at the very least, there was some 334 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:29.599 sales on the switch to at retailers in the United 335 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:32.400 States and Europe, and investors are like, what's going on 336 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:36.640 there that shouldn't happen. And then also there is, you know, 337 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:40.880 there's the lack of big marquee first party titles, specifically 338 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:43.880 Mario and Zelda. I think I would throw in like 339 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:46.680 Smash Brothers and Animal Crossing and a few others into that, 340 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:48.799 but Mario and Zelda seemed to be the ones that 341 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:52.759 the investors are asking about. And then finally, the third 342 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:55.200 thing that Cercin Toto mentioned that was not mentioned in 343 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:59.920 the story yet is component prices. The everyone's worried to 344 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:04.119 price increases. So those three factors seem to be dragging 345 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:07.200 Nintendo's share price back down. If you look at it, 346 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:10.200 there's a chart out there. This is a sharp decline 347 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:13.720 after a really sharp increase in price. So it kind 348 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:16.279 of feels like a little bit of a correction and 349 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:18.359 that Nintendo will have to like sort of chip away 350 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:20.119 at if it wants to stock price to go back 351 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:24.960 up by making big games and making big game announcements. 352 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:25.880 And that's kind of. 353 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:28.440 That feels like where we're at right where the next 354 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:32.400 time we hear from Nintendo, like that next Nintendo Direct 355 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:34.960 is probably going to have a big twenty twenty six 356 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:35.720 game in it. 357 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:37.839 That's how I feel. Do you share that? 358 00:18:39.559 --> 00:18:41.839 I feel like it has to grub. I don't think 359 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:47.440 they can get away with not teasing something at least 360 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:50.799 for twenty twenty six, whatever that winds up being. But 361 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:54.200 then again, I feel like it's impossible to really predict 362 00:18:54.359 --> 00:18:59.720 Nintendo's moves when it comes to anything predictable or pattern wise, 363 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:04.599 just because they just operate at their own frequency. It 364 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:07.519 seems like a no brainer that we should expect a 365 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:10.640 new three D Mario game, especially with the release of 366 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:15.640 the Mario Galaxy movie this year, But who knows. They 367 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:19.160 could perhaps be going back to the well and teasing 368 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:21.119 kid Iicris. 369 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:22.720 Yeah, I mean the right. 370 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:26.279 They could have any number of like lower profile games 371 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:29.400 in an Nintendo Direct and they're just not ready for Mario. 372 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:31.960 You know, we talk about Donkey Kung Binanza just came 373 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:34.960 and it'd be hard for them to have a new game. Yeah, 374 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:38.440 that's that's still true. Regardless of their need to have 375 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:42.480 a title release like that to address these issues, they 376 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:45.440 just might not be ready for it. That's the biggest 377 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:47.680 reason I think those things have not happened up to 378 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:49.559 this point. Of course, a news Zelda, it's not ready. 379 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:51.160 They just had Tears of the Kingdom a couple of 380 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:54.440 years ago. So yeah, we just might be stuck in 381 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:57.720 linear time here. And in the meantime, the Switch two 382 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:01.599 is gonna probably continue to sell just fun. The other 383 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:06.160 side of this is that price issue components really are 384 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:10.759 at in a rough spot. I know that Daniel Ahmad 385 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:14.440 kind of had an analysis of this, pointing out that 386 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:18.480 Nintendo was already riding the line of profitability on hardware, 387 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:22.079 kind of maxing out their margins a little bit because 388 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:26.160 of the tariffs, because of component prices, and now we're 389 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:29.119 past that and component prices are going up even more 390 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:32.279 specifically as always, as we said on every episode of 391 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:35.920 this show for the last month, RAM prices memory store 392 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:39.319 or memory and at this point storage as well are 393 00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:43.920 both seeing huge increases in prices, and Nintendo's like, hey, 394 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:46.720 we have looked into this. We're always looking to procure 395 00:20:46.759 --> 00:20:50.359 stuff at you know, in the most affordable way. But 396 00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:52.599 people believe they might be running out of road, and 397 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:56.559 Nintendo doesn't like to take a loss on hardware. I 398 00:20:56.559 --> 00:20:59.759 think that if they're like worried about all this stuff, though, 399 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:04.079 they probably might have to because raising I think raising 400 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:08.880 the price might be worse in public perception and in 401 00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:15.519