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Speaker 2: On the sports side of things, well, Aziz Aushaire, his
Speaker 2: case was heard by Ramon Foster, former player, and it
Speaker 2: was upheld three games. So Aziz Aushaire will be out
Speaker 2: for the next three games. And you know those three games,
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, the Chiefs and the Ravens. Three games ten days.
Speaker 1: They will not have him on that defense, Well, if
Speaker 1: they don't play better in the second half offensively, it
Speaker 1: won't matter if he's on the field or not. That's
Speaker 1: they're going to have to take care of their business
Speaker 1: offensively and play four quarters, which they don't seem to
Speaker 1: do much this year, even at eight and five. But
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out just how good they are this
Speaker 1: year in the next three weeks, starting next to what Sunday,
Speaker 1: I guess it is. I'm anxious to see. I'm anxious
Speaker 1: to see. Is it Sunday they played? They played the
Speaker 1: next game on Sunday? Or is it Saturday game? The
Speaker 1: first time when they.
Speaker 2: Come back, it'll be Sunday, and then they will play
Speaker 2: Saturday against the Chiefs, and then the following Wednesday, Wednesday,
Speaker 2: which is Christmas Day.
Speaker 1: I Uh. I'm not shocked that the three game suspension
Speaker 1: was held up. The public outcry and the public just
Speaker 1: all the coverage would have made it very difficult to
Speaker 1: lessen that because of the the the over emphasis, not
Speaker 1: just emphasis over emphasis on safety, which is important, but
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to quarterback, a battle that I'm
Speaker 1: not even talking about. The the uh and he's on
Speaker 1: ir is is uh? Trevor Lawrence and so you know
Speaker 1: the part of it. And isn't his shoulder heard as well?
Speaker 1: So that's a cushion and shoulder as well.
Speaker 2: That's what people uh you know took took uh what
Speaker 2: is it umbridge with? Yeah, yesterday basically the news came out,
Speaker 2: but no, none of these big time reporters and writers
Speaker 2: actually said why he was on IR. It's not because
Speaker 2: of the concussion, it's because of his shoulder. Ian Rappaport
Speaker 2: was one of the only ones that I saw. Trevor
Speaker 2: Lawrence is expected to have surgery to repair his significant
Speaker 2: acy joint injury in his left shoulder. His season is over,
Speaker 2: he heads to the IR.
Speaker 1: I had an ac joint injury, didn't have to have
Speaker 1: surgery on it. And when I was in college and
Speaker 1: it is you it's it's not fun. And I'm glad
Speaker 1: he for him that he's getting it done so he
Speaker 1: can have the off season to rehab it and be
Speaker 1: ready to go next year. You want good players on
Speaker 1: the field and the best of Trevor Lawrence and think
Speaker 1: and hopefully the concussion will go away soon.
Speaker 2: So he's okay.
Speaker 1: But I just think the outcry and the constant visuals
Speaker 1: you see on social media and around, there was a
Speaker 1: very minimal chance, especially that it was on a quarterback. Now,
Speaker 1: when I say that, you obviously know how I feel
Speaker 1: that situation. I try to judge every situation by what
Speaker 1: I saw on that play or the next play. All
Speaker 1: this and well, he's got the reputation, he's all those
Speaker 1: things you judge on. I'm talking about the play with
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. He should have been suspended. I think it's
Speaker 1: too harsh, But I also think the rule, the the
Speaker 1: social media and the constant emphasis about quarterbacks you're always
Speaker 1: going to hit harder than not. But I also think
Speaker 1: that the slide rule needs I think the slide first,
Speaker 1: feet first rule is I think it's dumb.
Speaker 2: I do I think that. I don't even think most
Speaker 2: guys know really quite how to slide.
Speaker 1: It's like awkward, yeah, and you're you're you're not putting
Speaker 1: yourself in a protective situation, as we said yesterday.
Speaker 2: But this does not surprise me.
Speaker 1: And like I told you, if you think the NFL
Speaker 1: is going to err on the side of being less protective,
Speaker 1: they're not. All this is going to do is heighten
Speaker 1: it and don't be shocked if we have more rules
Speaker 1: for the quarterback, which to me is absurd. This is
Speaker 1: an unfortunate situation, an unfortunate injury, and an unfortunate play.
Speaker 1: And there's gonna be people that can't stand it and
Speaker 1: the optics of it and think that he's a dirty
Speaker 1: player because they keep showing the compilation of other things
Speaker 1: that have happened. And then you're gonna see the obviously
Speaker 1: listening to the character in the locker room and the
Speaker 1: people that swear by him as a person and a
Speaker 1: football player. So you're gonna make your own judgment. Most
Speaker 1: people aren't going to change theirs. But the NFL has spoken.
Speaker 1: It's three and now he's in position, go out and
Speaker 1: do it again. Hit somebody late again the second we
Speaker 1: won't be good. So now he's got to tread lightly
Speaker 1: and what he does, which can almost affect his play.
Speaker 1: I just if Trevor Lawrence, if we don't have the
Speaker 1: rule and Trevor Lawrence goes shoulder pads first, Trevor.
Speaker 2: Lawrence doesn't get we're not talking about it.
Speaker 1: He's getting prepared, probably still taking whatever shots or whatever
Speaker 1: he's doing for his you know, whatever rehab he's doing
Speaker 1: for and he's playing next week more than likely. And
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't mean you have to take guy's
Speaker 1: head on when you're running out of the pocket. But
Speaker 1: I just think that you leave yourself in a very
Speaker 1: vulnerable situation and that's not what happens.
Speaker 2: Is in true Lawrence's fault.
Speaker 1: The rules say slide feet first, but I don't like
Speaker 1: the rule and I never have. I think we overprotect
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, notwithstanding the Trevor Lawrence thing. And I think
Speaker 1: the feet first slide is part of the reason why
Speaker 1: the head's always exposed. Yeah, you don't have anything in
Speaker 1: front of it, and unfortunately, and the truth is too.
Speaker 1: I think the viciousness of al Shaire's forearm is what's what.
Speaker 1: Also where it's like it was almost like it was
Speaker 1: forced forearm right, Whether it's.
Speaker 2: Intention or not, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think he tried to maim Trevor Lawrence, right,
Speaker 1: but the optics weren't good. And I get why people
Speaker 1: don't like it. And I also get why the you know,
Speaker 1: when you appeal it that they looked at it said no,
Speaker 1: can't do it. They're going to always err on the
Speaker 1: side of that quarterback. They do on any quarterback. They
Speaker 1: just are, whether we like it or not. And I
Speaker 1: think we overprotect him in this situation. The optics were awful.
Speaker 1: It was out, it was just him. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: eight players around. It was him and Lawrence in the
Speaker 1: open field. And unfortunately, I told you, I said, I
Speaker 1: doubt it's going to get reduced. If anything, it'd be
Speaker 1: one game, but not taking this down any farther. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got three games. It's gonna be expensive, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna cost him reputation wise, unfortunately. Yeah, now he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to fix out with referees and the rest of it.
Speaker 2: Outside of the attack on his character and everything to
Speaker 2: be made about him, Shy, you're the player. The biggest
Speaker 2: thing that's come to light about this whole situation is
Speaker 2: the feet first slide for quarterbacks. I saw multiple videos
Speaker 2: yesterday of Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen from this season
Speaker 2: where they run towards a first down and it looks
Speaker 2: like they're about to slide, and it shows a defender
Speaker 2: literally stopping themselves and then they take off like there's
Speaker 2: a play. This year, I can't remember who Josh Allen
Speaker 2: who the Buffalo Bills were playing it looks like Josh
Speaker 2: Allen's about to slide. It looks like he's about to
Speaker 2: start the slide with his right foot going forward. Yep,
Speaker 2: he pivots, takes off for an extra seven yard, scores
Speaker 2: a touchdown because the defender literally stopped because he didn't
Speaker 2: want to hit the quarterback. Of course, that's a touchdown.
Speaker 2: You just had to give up a touchdown because you
Speaker 2: thought the quarterback was gonna slide.
Speaker 1: And Josh Allen's about six five two forty And if
Speaker 1: you if you do that and hesitate and you just
Speaker 1: kind of sit back on your heels, and then he
Speaker 1: re reaccelerates with his big body and puts his helmet
Speaker 1: in your your strands and runs you over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you become a.
Speaker 1: Highlight video right again and again, no question, And they
Speaker 1: show it five thousand times and nobody says anything other
Speaker 1: than ooh, Josh Allen. But you know, bitch slapped him,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, or ran through him. Who
Speaker 1: quarterback tougher than the guy, Yet the guy simply broke.
Speaker 2: Down in front like I can't hit him like I
Speaker 2: want to. So it's just not right.
Speaker 1: And listen, I understand, within the rule, you can do
Speaker 1: what you do because they've allowed it. But Mahomes is
Speaker 1: the worst instigator of it all. Now, I don't promote
Speaker 1: him getting hit or hurt, but he milks it. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about throughout his career. It's a regular occurrence. I
Speaker 1: saw another compilation video of him doing it. I mean
Speaker 1: he does this stuff damn near couple times a game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. If it seems like if.
Speaker 1: I the thought process of a defensive player once they
Speaker 1: I mean they're already limited on how they can play. Hum,
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen when he pulls when it's not an
Speaker 1: okie doke and he starts to slide? So what happens
Speaker 1: when Mahomes all of a sudden gets towards the sideline
Speaker 1: and he does that fake step out of bounds or
Speaker 1: hesitate like he's going down and then cut back inside
Speaker 1: for fifteen more yards? What's gonna happen when one guy
Speaker 1: says not today, son, Yeah, and they run him through
Speaker 1: and knock him back into Andy Reid's lap and I'm
Speaker 1: talking about whiplash hit. They're gonna call penalty and everybody's
Speaker 1: just say, you can't hit Mahomes like that, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna sit there and say, well, if I'm the player,
Speaker 1: I'm no longer erin on the side of breaking down
Speaker 1: and let him get fifteen more yards. I'm gonna hit him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: not hurt him, but I'm gonna hit him legally. But
Speaker 1: is see, like I said, I promote I do. If
Speaker 1: I'm cooking, you hit them as hard as you possibly
Speaker 1: can legally and fairly, not head hunt. Hit him as
Speaker 1: hard as a hand, and you send a message the
Speaker 1: way football is supposed to be sent.
Speaker 2: But they milk it all the time.
Speaker 1: They milk it all and they're good at it, and
Speaker 1: the rule says you can so until they change the rule.
Speaker 2: Like I said, we overprotect quardecks.
Speaker 1: Don't you think quarterback's reputation in the last fifteen years
Speaker 1: has taken a hit? Yes, it even when you're a
Speaker 1: great player and doesn't deserve to take a hit. Not
Speaker 1: a hit on the field, the literal hit from like
Speaker 1: the way that we look at you. Okay, if I
Speaker 1: ask you who's tougher, Patrick Mahomes or Jim Kelly, what
Speaker 1: are you going to say, even it may not be true,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna say? Jim Kelly, Yeah, he's one
Speaker 1: of the toughest of all time, regardless of who you're
Speaker 1: talking about. If I say Dan Marino or John Elway
Speaker 1: or Jim Patrick Mahomes or I don't care, Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: who are you gonna say?
Speaker 2: John Elway? And they may not.
Speaker 1: Be the case, but the rules have made it to
Speaker 1: where you respect the toughness of a guy, then then
Speaker 1: you do. Now why because they had to play true
Speaker 1: tackle football.
Speaker 2: When was the last time you saw a quarterback leap
Speaker 2: up into the air and get helicoptered around like John Elway? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I just I mean, honestly, when was the last time
Speaker 2: you saw it? Josh Aden is the only one that
Speaker 2: I can kind of think of that actually would put
Speaker 2: his body on the lines to try to score time.
Speaker 1: Everybody out there google Mike tom Zach hit when he
Speaker 1: was an NFL the biggest hit in the NFL on
Speaker 1: Mike tom Zach when you go to break You google
Speaker 1: that and you want to say, how.
Speaker 2: Did he ever get up? Yeah? Google that.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're tougher, but I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: perception is is your perception that Mahomes is tougher than
Speaker 1: l Way? No, he mcgret the right and he may
Speaker 1: very well be just as tough. My point is the
Speaker 1: rules have made it where I think quarterbacks toughness, even
Speaker 1: though they may be tough, has taken a hit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the rules. And that's another reason why I don't
Speaker 1: think quarterbacks like you like it while the game's going on.
Speaker 1: When when you walk off the field into room, if
Speaker 1: I set fifteen guys from two thousand and back to
Speaker 1: two thousand and in front, you know what, You're going
Speaker 1: to look across the room at each other like a
Speaker 1: hat Fields and Cooy's duel. The guys that are playing
Speaker 1: now are gonna say, and we could compete with you
Speaker 1: that way. But I almost sit on your side of
Speaker 1: the room when it comes to the toughness and the
Speaker 1: rules that have created us to be painted as a
Speaker 1: little softer, Yeah, which is not fair to them, right,
Speaker 1: and they milk the rule and I would too.
Speaker 2: But let's slow down now. These rules need to change.
Speaker 1: We are overly protective of these quarterbacks, but we don't
Speaker 1: give a rats ass about a receiver who doesn't slight feed.
Speaker 2: First right or the center right left tackle, the right tackle.
Speaker 2: Don't care the guards like it doesn't matter. It's all
Speaker 2: about the quarterback. I as a quarterback, I am all
Speaker 2: for getting rid of the rule. Once you break the pocket,
Speaker 2: you're a football player. Yeah, you're free run.
Speaker 1: Now you got to do what you've got to do
Speaker 1: to protect yourself and learn how to free runner.
Speaker 2: What should the NFL do about the sliding of the quarterback.
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