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<v Speaker 1>Saulsbury, Old Berry, Salisbury, Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's do this. Sean Salisbury to usc truth, longtime friend,

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<v Speaker 2>Shawn Salisbury, Bryan l Lima, go Lobos. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>Seawan Salsbury Show, nine o'clock tip off tonight eight pm.

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<v Speaker 2>Launch pad here on seven nine your home four Rockets

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<v Speaker 2>Basketball Texans as you know, on their bye week. Ause

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<v Speaker 2>he's aushi here his suspension upheld for three games. Sewn

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<v Speaker 2>triple Ley. Good morning. It's also a special day here

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<v Speaker 2>at iHeartMedia Houston. We've got our Saint Jude radiothon sponsored

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<v Speaker 2>by pledging just nineteen dollars a month to help a

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<v Speaker 2>this every single year and it's a phenomenal two days.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be today and tomorrow. Seawan, Yeah, good morning, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It is this Saint Jude is well, been a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it for a while and just to be see

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<v Speaker 1>the difference, So turn on your TV and and listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the emotion. I mean, it's it's it's phenomenal to

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<v Speaker 1>the point of it'll you want to talk about tugging

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<v Speaker 1>at your emotions. It'll it will, You'll crawl ten miles

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<v Speaker 1>over broken glass to help any way you can.

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<v Speaker 2>So God bless them.

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<v Speaker 1>Grateful we get to be a part of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>our bosses here and the people involved from Eddie and

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<v Speaker 1>Mark and the rest of them are so Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>and you know Gallery Furniture is obviously sponsors this as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mattress Mac. We we are fortunate to have people

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<v Speaker 1>that care a lot and rightfully so. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite weeks of the year, especially these two days

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<v Speaker 1>where we get to be a part of it, a

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<v Speaker 1>small part of it. You and I get to be out,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, anything you can do to help, making

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<v Speaker 1>donations and the rest of it, it's changing lives and

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<v Speaker 1>saving lives. And grateful for him and so grateful they're

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<v Speaker 1>here today and we get to be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>it the next couple of days and every year, so

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<v Speaker 1>and thankful to our bosses it allow us to do this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we last year raised over a million dollars. Last

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<v Speaker 1>year's efforts over a million dollars. That was combined with

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<v Speaker 1>a Saint Jude golf tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. And also of course our radio Fion which will

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<v Speaker 2>be today and tomorrow across all of our radio stations

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<v Speaker 2>here heart, yeah, through my heart here in Houston.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what is you don't yeah, right here

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<v Speaker 1>in this building with that's a lot of money. But

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<v Speaker 1>why stop there, you know, I mean, we keep doing

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<v Speaker 1>it because we keep wanting to make a difference and

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<v Speaker 1>it's needed and grateful for all those that contribute, and again,

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<v Speaker 1>so good. It's always an honor to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. So thanks to Saint Jude and listen up,

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<v Speaker 1>there'll be a lot of great stuff and we look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to uh to having you guys be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we will. We will have little stories here

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<v Speaker 2>and there about kids that were battling cancer and how

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<v Speaker 2>they came through it and how much Sat Jud's help them.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course we'll be giving out the number to

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<v Speaker 2>donate if you want to become a Pledge member to

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<v Speaker 2>give out excuse me to give out some hope to

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<v Speaker 2>a children, some children at Saint Jude's. It's a spectacular

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<v Speaker 2>thing that Saint Juws does every single day for these

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<v Speaker 1>Really simple I mean, it saves lives as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>it saves lives every dime does, and it's it's important,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's we're grateful for it, but it's important

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<v Speaker 1>that every donation matters. It doesn't matter how much we'll

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<v Speaker 1>try to beat that goal. So we can also make

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<v Speaker 1>a difference here. So partners in Hope matter grateful to

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<v Speaker 1>a partner and Hope and we'll continue to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a really good thing what Saint Jews does.

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<v Speaker 2>The families don't have to pay for anything when their

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<v Speaker 2>kid is unfortunately battling cancer, going through treatments and stays

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<v Speaker 2>and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>As if the families don't have enough Streuss. What an

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievable thing that Saint Jude's has been doing for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll be hitting on that all morning long. And

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<v Speaker 2>again it's the Saint Jude Radio Thoon sponsored by Gallery Furniture.

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<v Speaker 2>On the sports side of things, well, Aziz Aushaire, his

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<v Speaker 2>case was heard by Ramon Foster, former player, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was upheld three games. So Aziz Aushaire will be out

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<v Speaker 2>for the next three games. And you know those three games,

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<v Speaker 2>the Dolphins, the Chiefs and the Ravens. Three games ten days.

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<v Speaker 1>They will not have him on that defense, Well, if

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<v Speaker 1>they don't play better in the second half offensively, it

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<v Speaker 1>won't matter if he's on the field or not. That's

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<v Speaker 1>offensively and play four quarters, which they don't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>do much this year, even at eight and five. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna find out just how good they are this

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<v Speaker 1>year in the next three weeks, starting next to what Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it is. I'm anxious to see. I'm anxious

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<v Speaker 1>to see. Is it Sunday they played? They played the

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<v Speaker 1>next game on Sunday? Or is it Saturday game? The

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<v Speaker 1>first time when they.

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<v Speaker 2>Come back, it'll be Sunday, and then they will play

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday against the Chiefs, and then the following Wednesday, Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>which is Christmas Day.

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<v Speaker 1>I Uh. I'm not shocked that the three game suspension

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<v Speaker 1>was held up. The public outcry and the public just

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<v Speaker 1>all the coverage would have made it very difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>lessen that because of the the the over emphasis, not

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<v Speaker 1>just emphasis over emphasis on safety, which is important, but

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<v Speaker 1>especially when it comes to quarterback, a battle that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not even talking about. The the uh and he's on

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<v Speaker 1>ir is is uh? Trevor Lawrence and so you know

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<v Speaker 1>the part of it. And isn't his shoulder heard as well?

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a cushion and shoulder as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what people uh you know took took uh what

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<v Speaker 2>is it umbridge with? Yeah, yesterday basically the news came out,

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<v Speaker 2>but no, none of these big time reporters and writers

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<v Speaker 2>actually said why he was on IR. It's not because

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<v Speaker 2>of the concussion, it's because of his shoulder. Ian Rappaport

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the only ones that I saw. Trevor

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<v Speaker 2>Lawrence is expected to have surgery to repair his significant

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<v Speaker 2>acy joint injury in his left shoulder. His season is over,

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<v Speaker 2>he heads to the IR.

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<v Speaker 1>I had an ac joint injury, didn't have to have

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<v Speaker 1>surgery on it. And when I was in college and

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<v Speaker 1>it is you it's it's not fun. And I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>he for him that he's getting it done so he

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go next year. You want good players on

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<v Speaker 1>the field and the best of Trevor Lawrence and think

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully the concussion will go away soon.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just think the outcry and the constant visuals

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<v Speaker 1>you see on social media and around, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>very minimal chance, especially that it was on a quarterback. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when I say that, you obviously know how I feel

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<v Speaker 1>that situation. I try to judge every situation by what

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<v Speaker 1>I saw on that play or the next play. All

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<v Speaker 1>this and well, he's got the reputation, he's all those

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<v Speaker 1>things you judge on. I'm talking about the play with

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence. He should have been suspended. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>too harsh, But I also think the rule, the the

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<v Speaker 1>social media and the constant emphasis about quarterbacks you're always

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<v Speaker 1>going to hit harder than not. But I also think

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<v Speaker 1>that the slide rule needs I think the slide first,

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<v Speaker 1>feet first rule is I think it's dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>I do I think that. I don't even think most

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<v Speaker 2>guys know really quite how to slide.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like awkward, yeah, and you're you're you're not putting

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in a protective situation, as we said yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>But this does not surprise me.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I told you, if you think the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>is going to err on the side of being less protective,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not. All this is going to do is heighten

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<v Speaker 1>it and don't be shocked if we have more rules

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<v Speaker 1>for the quarterback, which to me is absurd. This is

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<v Speaker 1>an unfortunate situation, an unfortunate injury, and an unfortunate play.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's gonna be people that can't stand it and

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<v Speaker 1>the optics of it and think that he's a dirty

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<v Speaker 1>player because they keep showing the compilation of other things

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<v Speaker 1>that have happened. And then you're gonna see the obviously

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the character in the locker room and the

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<v Speaker 1>people that swear by him as a person and a

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<v Speaker 1>football player. So you're gonna make your own judgment. Most

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<v Speaker 1>people aren't going to change theirs. But the NFL has spoken.

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<v Speaker 1>It's three and now he's in position, go out and

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<v Speaker 1>do it again. Hit somebody late again the second we

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<v Speaker 1>won't be good. So now he's got to tread lightly

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<v Speaker 1>and what he does, which can almost affect his play.

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<v Speaker 1>I just if Trevor Lawrence, if we don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>rule and Trevor Lawrence goes shoulder pads first, Trevor.

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<v Speaker 2>Lawrence doesn't get we're not talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's getting prepared, probably still taking whatever shots or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing for his you know, whatever rehab he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>for and he's playing next week more than likely. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it doesn't mean you have to take guy's

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<v Speaker 1>head on when you're running out of the pocket. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that you leave yourself in a very

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerable situation and that's not what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Is in true Lawrence's fault.

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<v Speaker 1>The rules say slide feet first, but I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the rule and I never have. I think we overprotect

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterbacks, notwithstanding the Trevor Lawrence thing. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>the feet first slide is part of the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>the head's always exposed. Yeah, you don't have anything in

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<v Speaker 1>front of it, and unfortunately, and the truth is too.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the viciousness of al Shaire's forearm is what's what.

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<v Speaker 1>Also where it's like it was almost like it was

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<v Speaker 2>Intention or not, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he tried to maim Trevor Lawrence, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but the optics weren't good. And I get why people

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<v Speaker 1>don't like it. And I also get why the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you appeal it that they looked at it said no,

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<v Speaker 1>can't do it. They're going to always err on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of that quarterback. They do on any quarterback. They

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<v Speaker 1>just are, whether we like it or not. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think we overprotect him in this situation. The optics were awful.

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<v Speaker 1>It was out, it was just him. It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>eight players around. It was him and Lawrence in the

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<v Speaker 1>open field. And unfortunately, I told you, I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>doubt it's going to get reduced. If anything, it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>one game, but not taking this down any farther. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got three games. It's gonna be expensive, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna cost him reputation wise, unfortunately. Yeah, now he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to fix out with referees and the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Outside of the attack on his character and everything to

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<v Speaker 2>be made about him, Shy, you're the player. The biggest

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<v Speaker 2>thing that's come to light about this whole situation is

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<v Speaker 2>the feet first slide for quarterbacks. I saw multiple videos

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday of Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen from this season

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<v Speaker 2>where they run towards a first down and it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like they're about to slide, and it shows a defender

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<v Speaker 2>literally stopping themselves and then they take off like there's

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<v Speaker 2>a play. This year, I can't remember who Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 2>who the Buffalo Bills were playing it looks like Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Allen's about to slide. It looks like he's about to

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<v Speaker 2>start the slide with his right foot going forward. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>he pivots, takes off for an extra seven yard, scores

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<v Speaker 2>a touchdown because the defender literally stopped because he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to hit the quarterback. Of course, that's a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>You just had to give up a touchdown because you

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<v Speaker 1>And Josh Allen's about six five two forty And if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you do that and hesitate and you just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sit back on your heels, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>re reaccelerates with his big body and puts his helmet

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<v Speaker 1>in your your strands and runs you over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you become a.

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<v Speaker 1>Highlight video right again and again, no question, And they

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<v Speaker 1>show it five thousand times and nobody says anything other

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<v Speaker 1>than ooh, Josh Allen. But you know, bitch slapped him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, or ran through him. Who

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback tougher than the guy, Yet the guy simply broke.

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<v Speaker 2>Down in front like I can't hit him like I

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<v Speaker 2>want to. So it's just not right.

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, I understand, within the rule, you can do

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<v Speaker 1>what you do because they've allowed it. But Mahomes is

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<v Speaker 1>the worst instigator of it all. Now, I don't promote

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<v Speaker 1>him getting hit or hurt, but he milks it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about throughout his career. It's a regular occurrence. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw another compilation video of him doing it. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he does this stuff damn near couple times a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. If it seems like if.

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<v Speaker 1>I the thought process of a defensive player once they

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're already limited on how they can play. Hum,

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happen when he pulls when it's not an

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<v Speaker 1>okie doke and he starts to slide? So what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when Mahomes all of a sudden gets towards the sideline

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<v Speaker 1>and he does that fake step out of bounds or

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<v Speaker 1>hesitate like he's going down and then cut back inside

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<v Speaker 1>for fifteen more yards? What's gonna happen when one guy

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<v Speaker 1>says not today, son, Yeah, and they run him through

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<v Speaker 1>and knock him back into Andy Reid's lap and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about whiplash hit. They're gonna call penalty and everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>just say, you can't hit Mahomes like that, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sit there and say, well, if I'm the player,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm no longer erin on the side of breaking down

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<v Speaker 1>and let him get fifteen more yards. I'm gonna hit him, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not hurt him, but I'm gonna hit him legally. But

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<v Speaker 1>is see, like I said, I promote I do. If

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<v Speaker 1>I'm cooking, you hit them as hard as you possibly

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<v Speaker 1>can legally and fairly, not head hunt. Hit him as

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<v Speaker 1>hard as a hand, and you send a message the

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<v Speaker 1>way football is supposed to be sent.

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<v Speaker 2>But they milk it all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>They milk it all and they're good at it, and

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<v Speaker 1>the rule says you can so until they change the rule.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, we overprotect quardecks.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you think quarterback's reputation in the last fifteen years

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<v Speaker 1>has taken a hit? Yes, it even when you're a

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<v Speaker 1>great player and doesn't deserve to take a hit. Not

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<v Speaker 1>a hit on the field, the literal hit from like

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<v Speaker 1>the way that we look at you. Okay, if I

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<v Speaker 1>ask you who's tougher, Patrick Mahomes or Jim Kelly, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to say, even it may not be true,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna say? Jim Kelly, Yeah, he's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the toughest of all time, regardless of who you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. If I say Dan Marino or John Elway

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<v Speaker 1>or Jim Patrick Mahomes or I don't care, Trevor Lawrence,

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<v Speaker 1>who are you gonna say?

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<v Speaker 2>John Elway? And they may not.

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<v Speaker 1>Be the case, but the rules have made it to

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<v Speaker 1>where you respect the toughness of a guy, then then

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<v Speaker 1>you do. Now why because they had to play true

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<v Speaker 1>tackle football.

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<v Speaker 2>When was the last time you saw a quarterback leap

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<v Speaker 2>up into the air and get helicoptered around like John Elway? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I just I mean, honestly, when was the last time

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<v Speaker 2>you saw it? Josh Aden is the only one that

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<v Speaker 2>I can kind of think of that actually would put

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<v Speaker 2>his body on the lines to try to score time.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody out there google Mike tom Zach hit when he

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<v Speaker 1>was an NFL the biggest hit in the NFL on

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<v Speaker 1>Mike tom Zach when you go to break You google

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<v Speaker 1>that and you want to say, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he ever get up? Yeah? Google that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying they're tougher, but I'm talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>perception is is your perception that Mahomes is tougher than

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<v Speaker 1>l Way? No, he mcgret the right and he may

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<v Speaker 1>very well be just as tough. My point is the

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<v Speaker 1>rules have made it where I think quarterbacks toughness, even

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<v Speaker 1>though they may be tough, has taken a hit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because the rules. And that's another reason why I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think quarterbacks like you like it while the game's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>When when you walk off the field into room, if

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<v Speaker 1>I set fifteen guys from two thousand and back to

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and in front, you know what, You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to look across the room at each other like a

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<v Speaker 1>hat Fields and Cooy's duel. The guys that are playing

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<v Speaker 1>now are gonna say, and we could compete with you

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<v Speaker 1>that way. But I almost sit on your side of

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<v Speaker 1>the room when it comes to the toughness and the

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<v Speaker 1>rules that have created us to be painted as a

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<v Speaker 1>little softer, Yeah, which is not fair to them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they milk the rule and I would too.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's slow down now. These rules need to change.

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<v Speaker 1>We are overly protective of these quarterbacks, but we don't

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<v Speaker 1>give a rats ass about a receiver who doesn't slight feed.

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<v Speaker 2>First right or the center right left tackle, the right tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't care the guards like it doesn't matter. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>about the quarterback. I as a quarterback, I am all

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<v Speaker 2>for getting rid of the rule. Once you break the pocket,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a football player. Yeah, you're free run.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you got to do what you've got to do

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<v Speaker 1>to protect yourself and learn how to free runner.

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<v Speaker 2>What should the NFL do about the sliding of the quarterback.

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