Speaker 1: Bill cunning into Great American all health breaking, loose, chaos
Speaker 1: and confusion is everywhere. Had riots over the week, and
Speaker 1: of course with this so called note kings, riots and
Speaker 1: the protests would happen in the state of Oregon is
Speaker 1: really unbelievable. Portland, for example, what happened in La You
Speaker 1: have the La County Sheriff say that molotov cocktails are thrown,
Speaker 1: dozens of officers have been injured, blocks of concrete have
Speaker 1: been pitched. You have a commercial grade fireworks being distributed
Speaker 1: among the police to hurt and injure them. You have
Speaker 1: no commerce happening in Los Angeles. I would think, I
Speaker 1: don't know how you have a worse mare than Karen
Speaker 1: Bass or a worst governor. But everywhere I look there's
Speaker 1: nothing but chaos plus and the next few days the
Speaker 1: President is going to be in the Rocky Mountains Canadian
Speaker 1: side to talk to some of the G seven leaders
Speaker 1: about that. It's a situation plus unbelievable. What's happening in Israel,
Speaker 1: and it goes on and on. It's only been like
Speaker 1: two or three days since that erupted, and since then,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the world has changed. Showan you
Speaker 1: and I now as Congressman Warren Davidson of the great
Speaker 1: State of Ohio. And there's two congressmen that voted against
Speaker 1: the Big Beautiful Bill in the House. Both are our
Speaker 1: guests and I think listeners of mine, that being a
Speaker 1: Thomas Massey and Warren Davidson and Congressman welcome again to
Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, to go
Speaker 1: back a couple of weeks, it was a one vote plus.
Speaker 1: What caused you to vote no on the Big Beautiful
Speaker 1: Bill about ten days or two weeks ago?
Speaker 2: Yeah, good question.
Speaker 3: It spends more money than it creates bigger deficits than
Speaker 3: we would have if we didn't pass the Big Beautiful Bill,
Speaker 3: and it doesn't you know.
Speaker 2: Look, you don't want to go by the GAO score.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's been a.
Speaker 3: Lot of criticism of that that comes out and says
Speaker 3: it costs like five trillion dollars over ten years. GAO
Speaker 3: doesn't give credit for you know, the growth rate, doesn't
Speaker 3: give credit for tariffs. Penn Wharton, which Wharton School of
Speaker 3: Business usually is one that people will look at that says, oh,
Speaker 3: we give good scores there and everything, and that says
Speaker 3: it still grows the deaths.
Speaker 2: It's even in ten years.
Speaker 3: But the most optimistic model I could find gives as
Speaker 3: much credit. It's the one that Speaker Johnson and President
Speaker 3: Trump and Steven Miller and everybody's highlighting. It does look good,
Speaker 3: it looks very, very nice. In a ten year timeframe,
Speaker 3: would grow, would save about one point six trillion dollars
Speaker 3: if everything went according to plan. But even in those
Speaker 3: most optimistic scenarios, it doesn't. It grows death sits in
Speaker 3: the first, you know, in the first this Congress and
Speaker 3: then the entire presidency, so until twenty twenty nine before
Speaker 3: it really starts saving money.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is how much pressure were you
Speaker 1: under thumbscrews? Were you tortured? Whenever someone says, get me
Speaker 1: the pliers and get me the blow torch, did the
Speaker 1: Trumpster and others give you the pliers and the blow torch.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: Look, we've had conversations about these bills since you know, November, really,
Speaker 3: I mean probably really prior to that, but you know,
Speaker 3: you know, in an aggressive way. I mean hundreds and
Speaker 3: hundreds of hours spent in meetings talking about these bills
Speaker 3: to get to this point. So no one's surprised by
Speaker 3: the position I've had, Franken's position. I had, you know,
Speaker 3: last Congress when when I voted yes for a bill
Speaker 3: that if if we stuck to the plan, would have
Speaker 3: spent less money than we did the year before.
Speaker 2: And that's the criteria. We don't.
Speaker 3: We don't even talk about passing a balance budget anymore.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, can we at least turn in the
Speaker 3: right direction and spend less money than we did the
Speaker 3: year before, which is a pretty low bar, But we don't.
Speaker 3: We don't ever put that on the floor. We did
Speaker 3: pass a plan to do that last Congress, and I
Speaker 3: sort of had hoped that we could at least agree
Speaker 3: to do that, especially in light of all the momentum
Speaker 3: we've built with Doge. So that's been my position is
Speaker 3: if we've got a plan to spend less than I'm
Speaker 3: for it, and if we don't, then you know, then
Speaker 3: you know, we'll see what we can do. And so
Speaker 3: go back to March. I was, you know, into February,
Speaker 3: early March, we passed essentially the plan to start putting
Speaker 3: this reconciliation bill together, and we basically decided we're going
Speaker 3: to go with one big, beautiful bill versus the two
Speaker 3: step approach. I favored the two step approach for what
Speaker 3: it's worth, but you know, ultimately the kind of moderates
Speaker 3: push to stick everybody together and put one big, beautiful bill,
Speaker 3: and the danger in that is usually it's worse on spending.
Speaker 3: That's how why they do on TheBus bills is you know,
Speaker 3: the usually the way you get the votes is you
Speaker 3: just agree to spend more, and that's exactly what they did.
Speaker 3: They so they turned towards the left and they counted
Speaker 3: on holding everybody they could from the right onto the
Speaker 3: big beautiful bill.
Speaker 2: And that's where you've lost votes.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, me, Massy Andy Harris voted present,
Speaker 3: but it's because people didn't really want to take it.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of where I was in at the end.
Speaker 3: Of February and March, where I was the last person
Speaker 3: to get DS and the Speaker assured me that he
Speaker 3: would not put a bill on the floor that didn't
Speaker 3: save at least one point six trained one point five
Speaker 3: trillion dollars in a ten year CBO score technically doesn't
Speaker 3: do it with CBO, but you can find a model
Speaker 3: that does it. But we talked about this Congress, and
Speaker 3: that's really the crux of it, Willie is, you know,
Speaker 3: the only Congress we control is the one we're in, right,
Speaker 3: So it's easy to promise some future Congress is going
Speaker 3: to save money, but promises somebody else is going to
Speaker 3: save money doesn't save money. And so while there's lots
Speaker 3: of things that we could do, I've given almost two
Speaker 3: trillion dollars worth of ideas that you could cut that
Speaker 3: would accelerate the you know, this model so that this
Speaker 3: Congress or at least this presidency. And that's where I relented.
Speaker 3: I said, Okay, let's say that Trump would be willing
Speaker 3: to veto a bad spending bill. We don't necessarily know
Speaker 3: who's going to win in the midterms, but I would
Speaker 3: be willing to vote for it as long as it
Speaker 3: would save money by the time President Trump's out of
Speaker 3: office in twenty twenty nine. And you know, even the
Speaker 3: best model that they can come up with, it doesn't
Speaker 3: do that. And so we wanted to So this is
Speaker 3: a long part of the story here, but again, hours
Speaker 3: and hours and hours of these conversations, ultimately we're able
Speaker 3: to get it out of the House, but still have
Speaker 3: you know, no votes from the conservative side of this.
Speaker 3: The less spend less money side tease it up to
Speaker 3: get to the Senate, and that's where Rick Scott, Ron
Speaker 3: Johnson and Mike Lee are pushing it. And look, Thomas
Speaker 3: Massey and Ran Paul are kind of in their own place.
Speaker 3: Whether they're movable or not, as you know, to be determined,
Speaker 3: But the other three senators are there. Rick Scott's been
Speaker 3: hosting dinners with conservatives from the House and Senate for
Speaker 3: a couple of years now. So we spent lots of
Speaker 3: hours talking amongst Conservas in the House and Senate and
Speaker 3: frankly with the administration and Susie Wiles and team there
Speaker 3: she's chief staff, on how to keep this bill from
Speaker 3: becoming just another giant on the bus.
Speaker 1: No matter what is it, you know the numbers, I
Speaker 1: assume the big beautiful Bill passes.
Speaker 2: Is it true? Right now?
Speaker 1: The accumulated debt is about thirty seven trillion, and over
Speaker 1: the next ten years, let's forget about ten years. Over
Speaker 1: the next five years, under the plan of the Big BB,
Speaker 1: there's going to be ten trillion dollars more borrowing. So
Speaker 1: by the time Trump leaves office, there will be forty
Speaker 1: seven trillion owed by our kids and grand Because is
Speaker 1: that approximately correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean directionally, we're having you know, two trillion
Speaker 3: dollar death sits right now. And unfortunately, under this bill
Speaker 3: during Trump's presidency, in the most optimistic scenario, it still
Speaker 3: grows those depths that's beyond the two trillion, so it
Speaker 3: makes them even worse for.
Speaker 2: The next two or three years.
Speaker 3: That's that's you know, that's a terrible situation for the
Speaker 3: depth sit and when you go to the ten year score,
Speaker 3: when they say in the optimistic if you stick to
Speaker 3: the plan, we save one point six trillion dollars. This
Speaker 3: bill would raise a debt debt limit by four to
Speaker 3: five trillion, depends on the House version or the Senate version,
Speaker 3: whichever one becomes final four or five trillion dollars. But
Speaker 3: the reality is you're going to grow debt by like
Speaker 3: twenty two trillion dollars by then, so you're talking fifty
Speaker 3: trillion dollars worth of debt by the time you get
Speaker 3: the ten year score. So I mean this starts eating
Speaker 3: up our GDP. I mean, it's a huge percentage of
Speaker 3: our GDP. And the last time that we had this
Speaker 3: much debt, it was the end of World War Two.
Speaker 3: But everybody knew we had to spend less money. Right now,
Speaker 3: almost nobody's talking about spending less money. And that's sort
Speaker 3: of where Elon Musk, you know, it is like, look,
Speaker 3: it kind of works in the opposite direction. Why did
Speaker 3: I want to go do dose was so we could
Speaker 3: spend less money, And this bill does just the opposite
Speaker 3: of that. It's a big setback, and you know, he's
Speaker 3: right to be upset about that, and you know, of
Speaker 3: course we do want to find a way to get
Speaker 3: it done.
Speaker 1: Congress and Warren Davidson. One great part about this bill
Speaker 1: is the continuation of tax cuts and the idea that
Speaker 1: if nothing happens, this will destroy the Trump legacy. And secondly,
Speaker 1: there'll be huge tax increase on the American people.
Speaker 2: What do you say about that one?
Speaker 3: Well, I think, look, no one wants that. We know
Speaker 3: we're going to have to deal with the taxes. I
Speaker 3: don't whether it's in this big, beautiful bill or in
Speaker 3: a broken apart a series of things. I mean, there's
Speaker 3: enough votes to change the tax code. I mean the
Speaker 3: reality is that, you know, the Senate passed the no
Speaker 3: tax on tips provision that President Trump want and as
Speaker 3: a standalone measure kind of approved the point one hundred
Speaker 3: to Zerra. If you look at some of these provisions
Speaker 3: in the tax code, you know there are Democrats who
Speaker 3: would vote for it. We could pass them with sixty votes.
Speaker 3: You don't even need very many Democrats to do that.
Speaker 3: You could do those in standalone bills. And then the
Speaker 3: last thing is it's not like you only get like
Speaker 3: one giant reconciliation bill per year. The Democrats did the
Speaker 3: same plan when they passed the American Rescue Plan and
Speaker 3: when they passed the you know, Inflation Reduction Actor is
Speaker 3: sort of green new deal, and they're blending what's traditionally
Speaker 3: mandatory spending and discretionary spending, but in their case, they
Speaker 3: just want to spend more money. Bernie Sanders liked it
Speaker 3: so much when he was the Democrat chair of the
Speaker 3: Senate Budget Committee. He said, is there any limit to
Speaker 3: how we can do this? And the Senate Parliamentarium said no,
Speaker 3: you can do this as often as you want. So
Speaker 3: it's not like you can only do it like once
Speaker 3: per year you're limited to it. So those why it's
Speaker 3: kind of crazy to not do two bills instead of one,
Speaker 3: because you have a clear consensus on a lot of things.
Speaker 3: Why did they want one big, beautiful bill. Well, because
Speaker 3: the moderates from places like New York and New Jersey
Speaker 3: and California wanted this state and local tax deduction and
Speaker 3: they knew that was their leverage to force it to
Speaker 3: be as big as possible. And it's a shame that
Speaker 3: we gave into that.
Speaker 1: Well, at this point, Congressman, I would say this, the
Speaker 1: tax cuts have got to be continued, and secondly, somehow
Speaker 1: the kcamberlated debt has got to come down. If it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen, now, I've said this many times in talk
Speaker 1: radio for the last several decades, if it doesn't happen, Now, wait,
Speaker 1: guys like you and Ran Paul and John fun and
Speaker 1: President Trump and what's going on. If it doesn't happen now,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen because if this group can't get
Speaker 1: it done, the deficit is just going to continue yearly
Speaker 1: to go up two trillion, three trillion. And secondly, the
Speaker 1: accumulated that's gonna be wild. So if it doesn't happen,
Speaker 1: now we're screwed, blue tattooed and barbecue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's it.
Speaker 3: You look at all the momentum we had coming off
Speaker 3: of doze and the election, and look, you shouldn't have
Speaker 3: to fund the Green New Deal, and you know, tax
Speaker 3: breaks for you know, wealthy people in New York to
Speaker 3: be able to secure our borders. So there are things
Speaker 3: in there that we like and agree. And if you
Speaker 3: cut taxes, it makes sense. You can grow the economy
Speaker 3: to some extent and bring in a little more tax revenue.
Speaker 3: You can bring tariffs in and bring in you know,
Speaker 3: significant revenue from tariffs. But you can't do that and
Speaker 3: spend money and cut taxes and not have to raise
Speaker 3: the debt limit. And eventually, if all this stuff comes together,
Speaker 3: the reason it starts looking good in the out years
Speaker 3: is they eventually get around to turning off major chunks
Speaker 3: of the Green New Deal. They eventually around to saying, look,
Speaker 3: if you're able bodied working as adult work, you gotta
Speaker 3: go to work work.
Speaker 2: But who would help a friend in need out.
Speaker 3: And say, well, hey, buddy, I mean I'll help you
Speaker 3: out for now, but by the end of twenty twenty
Speaker 3: seven you got to get a job. Why does it
Speaker 3: mean to do the same thing when the government does
Speaker 3: the same thing that you and I would do for
Speaker 3: a friends and family.
Speaker 1: The idea that illegal immigrants should be getting medicaid something
Speaker 1: like one point three million or so, plus another four
Speaker 1: point six million or able body to adults that refuse
Speaker 1: to work. We have only a few minutes remaining. I
Speaker 1: want to get your take on what's happening in Israel.
Speaker 1: I understand from off the air the Congress is planning
Speaker 1: on a little bit of a trip next week to
Speaker 1: Israel that may not occur. I see this as a
Speaker 1: golden opportunity in which the Gulf States want Iran to
Speaker 1: be taken down completely. We use four or five Muslim
Speaker 1: countries Israel did to fly over their F fifteen's and
Speaker 1: to bomb and take care of Iran the most they
Speaker 1: can give me. Warren Davidson's position on what's happening now,
Speaker 1: this go on for next week or ten days, God
Speaker 1: knows how long. What should be done, what could be done,
Speaker 1: what must be done with this side is of evil
Speaker 1: in the modern world, that being Iran.
Speaker 3: Look, Iran has clearly been the destabilizing force in the
Speaker 3: Middle East, and they've funded proxy wars that have targeted
Speaker 3: you know, Israel. I mean, how did homask get the
Speaker 3: money and do the effort to do the ten to
Speaker 3: seven massacre in Israel.
Speaker 2: Well, it's heavily Iran. And this is why it was
Speaker 2: so foolish.
Speaker 3: What the Biden administration and frankly previously the Obama administration
Speaker 3: did was to you know, negotiate with Iran, give them cash.
Speaker 3: And Iran with cash is about as predictable as gravity.
Speaker 3: They're going to use it to attack Israel. So look,
Speaker 3: they've had essentially a proxy war going on between Iran
Speaker 3: and Israel and an occasional flare up into a direct
Speaker 3: conflict between the two countries. And I get friends in Israel,
Speaker 3: I mean, just pull it on a personal level. I've
Speaker 3: got friends in Israel. I wish them safety and success.
Speaker 3: I got no friends in Iran. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: there are lots of good Iranian people who've got an
Speaker 3: evil govern and they do evil things. So you know,
Speaker 3: I hope Israel prevails, but I do think it's not
Speaker 3: our war to fight or our war to fund. And
Speaker 3: I think Israel has historically said we're fine fighting our
Speaker 3: own wars. The trouble is is now everybody, you know,
Speaker 3: the warmongers out there, they look for every chance they
Speaker 3: can to get to get into a bigger, broader war,
Speaker 3: and frankly, some of my colleagues in the House, and
Speaker 3: a handful of Senators I've talked to, are done near
Speaker 3: giddy about the prospect of getting us into a bigger war,
Speaker 3: whether it's with I ran with Russia in Ukraine or
Speaker 3: somewhere else.
Speaker 2: And they haven't found one.
Speaker 1: They don't like no at this point, and I would
Speaker 1: give them all the bunker buster bombs. They need to
Speaker 1: do everything they can do. Tell the Iranian people. And
Speaker 1: I thought Netzanyahu was great the other day the other
Speaker 1: night when he said, look, it's time for the Iranian
Speaker 1: people to arise. Sirih was going to be there forever
Speaker 1: Lebanon was going to be there forever has belind of Moss.
Speaker 1: Let's face it, the policies of Joe Biden fun to
Speaker 1: terror all over the world, especially by giving the Onians
Speaker 1: billions of dollars, and Obama had palettes of cash. They
Speaker 1: used that cash not to uplift their own people. They
Speaker 1: used it to kill Jews, kill Americans wherever they might
Speaker 1: be located. And funding Hesbela hamas Boca Ram, they funded
Speaker 1: the Hoodies. They did everything they can and now we
Speaker 1: have we have the go ahead to assist Israel by
Speaker 1: Muslim states, who wants the whole thing to be over
Speaker 1: and that's the way it ought to be. Well, Congressman,
Speaker 1: we got to go. I know, in the next few
Speaker 1: weeks before July fourth, you're gonna have your the blow
Speaker 1: torch and the pliers are gonna come out. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to make a big decision and it'll be based
Speaker 1: upon what that bill looks like. But Warren Davidson, once again,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Warren,
Speaker 1: you're a great American. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you too.
Speaker 3: And another great highlight was Army's birthday.
Speaker 2: What a great event. How about that American? How about that?
Speaker 1: How about you were you were a ranger, you went
Speaker 1: to West Point. The juxtaposition of Donald Trump and the
Speaker 1: soldiers with the American flag marching down Pennsylvania Avenue, and
Speaker 1: compare that to what happened in Portland, what happened in Chicago,
Speaker 1: what happened in Austin, what happened in La what happened
Speaker 1: to San Francisco was unbelievable. The split screen only MSNBC
Speaker 1: did not like the American Parade on the two hundred
Speaker 1: and fiftieth anniversary of the Army's founding, of which you
Speaker 1: are a proud member. But once again, Warren Davidson, thank
Speaker 1: you very much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3: I mean Sarah Hookabe Sanadors had it right, you know,
Speaker 3: normal and crazy, and it was definitely on display during
Speaker 3: that parade.
Speaker 2: Normal people were happy about it.
Speaker 1: God bless you. I'm normal and sir are you. But
Speaker 1: thank you for your service. Thank you very much. Let's
Speaker 1: continue with more. Bill Cunningham on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: At the music. A little bit of music here, pretty good,
Speaker 2: good stuff. A little more.
Speaker 1: Please tell us the story of the sailor, shall we say,
Speaker 1: a aport and his love for a bartender or server
Speaker 1: was unbridled.
Speaker 2: Let's continue with more.
Speaker 1: After one o'clock today, I'm going to have on the
Speaker 1: speaker of the House of Ohio and then Matt Huffman's
Speaker 1: going to be here. There's an article in the Inquiry
Speaker 1: about raising the cigarette tax, and there's another article about
Speaker 1: a three percent tax on game gambling, and there's another
Speaker 1: one about whether to use unclaimed funds, whatever it might be,
Speaker 1: to pay for the stadiums or bonding. And I'm going
Speaker 1: to ask Matt Huffman. He's the man, he was President
Speaker 1: of the Senate in Columbus. Now he's Speaker of the House.
Speaker 1: Miss Speaker is Matt Huffman from Lima, the home of
Speaker 1: Leonard Rush, and God rest his soul, and we're going
Speaker 1: to get from him. And I've seen some reports from
Speaker 1: him that the Republicans in the House and the Senate
Speaker 1: that he controls from an iron grip, will not approve
Speaker 1: any increase in taxes at all, whether cigarette tax or
Speaker 1: whether it's a bonding fund of six hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: That's not too popular right now either. And the one
Speaker 1: coming up along the side, I think is going to
Speaker 1: be the unclaimed funds. Put his statut limitations on it
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe about ten years. And there's literally billions
Speaker 1: of dollars in unclaimed funds in the last one hundred years.
Speaker 1: That's their ad infinitum, and that's really our money generally,
Speaker 1: but they're unclaims of what do you do with it?
Speaker 1: And none of these remedies are particularly popular. But one
Speaker 1: thing he said repeatedly is he's not in favor of
Speaker 1: increasing taxes because if he increases cigarette tax, Covington's going
Speaker 1: to get real busy. If you increase tax on liquor.
Speaker 1: Then if you're in Toledo, Michigan's going to get real busy.
Speaker 1: If you increase taxes on marrijajuana, the surrounding states is
Speaker 1: going to get real busy. Pennsylvania, Michigan, Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia.
Speaker 1: Ohio's well positioned to have those who use those products
Speaker 1: to simply leave. You know what I'm saying, And so
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's going to say none of those
Speaker 1: things are going to fly. Despite the fact that Senate
Speaker 1: bill gave the ability of Hamley County commissioners to increase
Speaker 1: this so called cigarette tax, the Republicans have said repeatedly
Speaker 1: that will not happen. And by the way, was today
Speaker 1: June sixteenth. Today the bill must be signed by the
Speaker 1: governor negotiats, and the negotiations are still underway. Plus you
Speaker 1: have the issue of getting rid of all the Hamley
Speaker 1: County Coroner's office, et cetera. Doctor Somarco I think has
Speaker 1: met with Matt Huffman, and not every corner's office in
Speaker 1: Ohio is run like the ones in southwest Ohio.
Speaker 2: So we'll see.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask him that question too, But until then,
Speaker 1: it's with deep sadness that a young man, relatively young
Speaker 1: man named Patrick Herringer, forty six years old, was murdered
Speaker 1: in his home by Mordecai Black, who completed a nine
Speaker 1: and a half year prison sentence and cut off an
Speaker 1: ankle monitor in February, and he have scounded And since
Speaker 1: I've been involved in the system for a while, until
Speaker 1: his murder at the hands of Mordecai Black, the pro
Speaker 1: authority would not notify local cops about someone being released. Now,
Speaker 1: if someone's released on a DUI or a a check
Speaker 1: charge or a white collar offense something like that, that's
Speaker 1: one thing. But this particular person, Mordecai Black, has had
Speaker 1: a lifetime of crime that resulted at one point of
Speaker 1: Judge Megan Shanahan giving him ten years in prison, and
Speaker 1: he served nine and a half year prison sentence, which
Speaker 1: was all of it, but he could keep control of
Speaker 1: him for six more months, and they did. And one
Speaker 1: good thing that Sarah Herringer has brought about is the
Speaker 1: fact that the Ohio Adult Parle Authority will not just
Speaker 1: put it in the computer with a little red flag
Speaker 1: saying if you run into this guy, arrest him, that
Speaker 1: they're going to notify the last known addressed police department
Speaker 1: to say exactly what the release is and if he
Speaker 1: cuts off the ankle monitor, they're going to be notified
Speaker 1: to look for this guy. Of course, when you have
Speaker 1: one cop in OTR and downtown Cincinnati working a shift,
Speaker 1: one police officer in one scout car, it's completely inadequate
Speaker 1: for the role that we want police to play. And
Speaker 1: I love the comments this morning with Scott Sloan of
Speaker 1: a council member who said, well, we have to have
Speaker 1: about thirty more cops immediately, and that the answer is yes.
Speaker 1: But the most shall we say optimistic tone might be
Speaker 1: it would take you a year to year and a
Speaker 1: half to get that done. There's ways of going around
Speaker 1: the system. But the other thing is not too many
Speaker 1: cops in the suburbs want to go and work in
Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati. If you're in Green Township, if
Speaker 1: you're in the city of madeir, if you're a ranger
Speaker 1: in Indian Hill, if you're working somewhere maybe in Sharonville
Speaker 1: or Evendale, you want to put your life on the
Speaker 1: line and go to the city of Cincinnati. I don't
Speaker 1: think so much like firefighters do a great job in
Speaker 1: most of the Hamlety County, but most do not want
Speaker 1: to work in the city of Cincinnati. There's all the
Speaker 1: drug overdoses and the bs you have to go through.
Speaker 1: And that's that's not true of Cincinnati, it's true of
Speaker 1: every major American city and those around it. Often it's
Speaker 1: like a donor to hole the black hole in the middle.
Speaker 1: And as a consequence, those in the suburbs don't want
Speaker 1: to go into inner cities because they're too dangerous and
Speaker 1: too much violence going on. And so the murderer, Murdecai Black,
Speaker 1: was indicted on everything he could be indicted on, and
Speaker 1: including spending the rest of his life in prison, which
Speaker 1: is of course very likely. It's hard to explain how
Speaker 1: his fingerprints got on a knife inside the home of
Speaker 1: Patrick Herringer, pretty hard to explain how the blood of
Speaker 1: Patrick Herringer was found on the person of the knife,
Speaker 1: and that the blood of the defendant was inside the
Speaker 1: Herringer home. Because there was one hell of a fight
Speaker 1: that went on. Patrick fought like a warrior poet for
Speaker 1: his life and his wife Sarah is now going to
Speaker 1: take up the cause of improving safety, which is a
Speaker 1: great idea.
Speaker 2: Can it be done? Yes?
Speaker 1: Will it be done. I have profound doubts, profound doubts
Speaker 1: about that. Because of the way cities work today, it's
Speaker 1: much more popular for the mayor and city council to
Speaker 1: show up at a no King celebration than it is
Speaker 1: to fight for more public more police officers in downtown Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: One thing is popular, the other one is not so popular.
Speaker 1: In fact, Sarah put up a posting I'll share some
Speaker 1: of it with you, and Sarah the widow said quote,
Speaker 1: I believe in civic engagement. I believe in calling out
Speaker 1: injustice wherever it lives. But when your house is on fire,
Speaker 1: you don't run to protest someone else's. Mayor, Peer of All,
Speaker 1: you were elected to govern Cincinnati, not to campaign on
Speaker 1: national stages, not to chase headlines. While you gave speeches
Speaker 1: about protecting us from the federal government. My husband was
Speaker 1: murdered in our home by a man who was supposed
Speaker 1: to be under state supervision, a man who upscanned from
Speaker 1: post release control, a man who should never should have
Speaker 1: been found and stopped. This is not a federal issue, Mayor,
Speaker 1: Peer of all, do your job. We have program a
Speaker 1: program after program after program to tell younger Americans guess what.
Speaker 1: Don't commit crime, don't congregate around the government square bus station.
Speaker 1: All it takes is three things to be successful. If
Speaker 1: you're a young American, you and I know what they are.
Speaker 1: Number one, graduate from high school. Number two work, Number three,
Speaker 1: don't commit crime. Is it possible to do all those
Speaker 1: three things without a government program? Whether it's midnight basketball
Speaker 1: or swimming classes or a finger painting whatever it might be,
Speaker 1: roller Derby And we have all kinds of social service
Speaker 1: agency individuals paid to handle these difficulties. And there's well
Speaker 1: intended individuals in the mess. Iris Roley is not one
Speaker 1: of them, but they have large number of city employees
Speaker 1: to make sure that kids don't act up too much
Speaker 1: during the summertime instead of simply saying graduate from high school,
Speaker 1: get a part time job or a full time job,
Speaker 1: and number three, I don't commit crime. That's all it takes.
Speaker 1: And it's a small small number doing this. There's thirty
Speaker 1: or forty thousand black kids in Cincinnati, and I would
Speaker 1: say ninety five to ninety eight percent of them are
Speaker 1: as good as anyone can. But I see them all
Speaker 1: the time, working hard, doing their job. It's a small number,
Speaker 1: five hundred to one thousand needs to be incarcerated and
Speaker 1: kept from American society because they don't know how to
Speaker 1: act and might not be in a sense their fault
Speaker 1: because of the circumstances to which they were born to,
Speaker 1: but it is their fault if they're told from early on,
Speaker 1: you're going to graduate from high school, you're going to work,
Speaker 1: get to your job five minutes early, state your job
Speaker 1: five minutes late, and thirdly, don't commit crime. That's what
Speaker 1: you have to do. We do not need a government
Speaker 1: program to have that happen. It's much more popular for
Speaker 1: the mayor to go to a no King's rally, which
Speaker 1: is a bunch of bs, to talk about how he's
Speaker 1: going to protect us from the federal government, when in reality,
Speaker 1: the enemies within the gates. And it's the entire situation
Speaker 1: throughout all of urban America in which the Democratic parties
Speaker 1: controlled it for fifty to one hundred years and have
Speaker 1: destroyed our magnificent cities completely. There's not one functional American
Speaker 1: city that's in a blue city in a blue state
Speaker 1: that has great public resources, has a great public school system,
Speaker 1: has well supported police, clean city, clean streets, the streets,
Speaker 1: no homeless problem. It doesn't happen, it doesn't exist. And
Speaker 1: it's because of the acceptance of aberin behavior and the
Speaker 1: fact that the right kind of moral principles are not
Speaker 1: shown to young folks, especially young boys, or in tremendous,
Speaker 1: tremendous stress as I speak. And so, yes, we can
Speaker 1: do more, we should do more. But the fact the
Speaker 1: matter is up to each person, up to each family,
Speaker 1: to make themselves presentable in the sense that I will
Speaker 1: go to school, I will take tests, I will pass,
Speaker 1: I will get a diploma that I've earned. Secondly, I'm
Speaker 1: going to work. I see kids at Chick fil A
Speaker 1: in Oakley. I love going there, and the majority of
Speaker 1: kids working there our young black kids, and they look
Speaker 1: great on time, showing up early, getting their job done.
Speaker 1: The message has to be number one, graduate from high school,
Speaker 1: Number two, work, number three, don't commit crime, don't need
Speaker 1: a government program. I've said it, Thomas Soul has said it,
Speaker 1: Walter Williams has said it. Those are the three things necessary.
Speaker 1: All this other stuff is a bunch of bs, and
Speaker 1: we can't keep doing the same thing anticipating a different result.
Speaker 1: How much stress is CPS unner since night public schools
Speaker 1: great stress? I have Matt Huffman coming up in about
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty minutes. The goal is to completely restructure
Speaker 1: public education and the funding thereof. There's a petition circulating
Speaker 1: that says that all real estate property taxes should be
Speaker 1: eliminated in the state of Ohio, and that's constitutional amendment.
Speaker 1: And if that happens, which I think is going to happen,
Speaker 1: you give voters a chance, an opportunity. That's saying paying
Speaker 1: real estate taxes anymore, and they're going to do it. Well,
Speaker 1: that's a great idea. Maybe have no taxes, have no
Speaker 1: income taxes, have no sales tax, have no real estate
Speaker 1: tax What kind of society do we then have? We'll
Speaker 1: find out Ohio was about to go down that alley
Speaker 1: and Rocky Boyman, my good friend, would love to get
Speaker 1: a shot at voting against real estate taxes. And he's
Speaker 1: rich because he's tired of the increases happening regularly.
Speaker 2: And so we have.
Speaker 1: Now it's going to happen in the within the next year,
Speaker 1: either November of this year or May of next year,
Speaker 1: we're going to vote to eliminate, yes or no real
Speaker 1: estate taxes, which, by the way, in Hamleton County there's
Speaker 1: about eleven special assessments from the levee to the zoo,
Speaker 1: to senior citizen, levy library, et cetera.
Speaker 2: All it was adds up.
Speaker 1: And then every now and then we have to vote
Speaker 1: to increase taxes to go to public schools.
Speaker 2: Costs keep going up.
Speaker 1: If that happens, I'm gonna ask mat huffin the big question,
Speaker 1: how do you in state government deal with that? If
Speaker 1: real estate taxes are eliminated, which is little or nothing
Speaker 1: to do with state government state fund. State government is
Speaker 1: funded by the income tax and by the sales tax,
Speaker 1: not by real estate taxes, which are locally governed.
Speaker 2: Get rid of all that.
Speaker 1: You tell me how schools at CPS, or schools in Sycamore,
Speaker 1: or schools in Madeira or schools at Oak Hills are
Speaker 1: going to function when there's no more real estate taxes
Speaker 1: going into the schools. The only other two options is
Speaker 1: to grossly increase the income tax or grossly increase.
Speaker 2: The sales tax.
Speaker 1: And the number I was told by one lawmaker to
Speaker 1: make up for the differential would be about a twenty
Speaker 1: percent sales tax increase. That means instead of paying seven
Speaker 1: eight nine percent, you're gonna pay twenty percent everything you buy.
Speaker 1: And then income tax is another thing. Right now, it's
Speaker 1: about two point seventy five percent without have to go
Speaker 1: to four percent. Do you think Republicans like Matt Huffman
Speaker 1: are going to grossly increase the state income tax to
Speaker 1: make up the differential? The answer is no. So we're
Speaker 1: headed toward a real crisis. I'm gonna talk about that
Speaker 1: with him. He's also this voting a proposal to let
Speaker 1: hamlet the county increase the cigarette tax. That's a bunch
Speaker 1: of bs. That's that's not going to fly because anyone
Speaker 1: who smokes cigarettes can go to Covington and buy pack
Speaker 1: after pack, carton after carton of cigarettes. A lot lower
Speaker 1: Ohio was bordered by Michigan, Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Just go out of state and buy all you want
Speaker 1: and don't pay the tax. So that's not going to fly.
Speaker 1: And three percent tax on gambling is kind of a
Speaker 1: extra fee. And Matt Huffman has said before, we're not
Speaker 1: going to vote for that. And this is the guy
Speaker 1: drafting the legislation. Some call him the most powerful man
Speaker 1: in Columbus, this side of the Governor Mike DeWine and
Speaker 1: that's that's true. He was President of the Senate, now
Speaker 1: his Speaker of the House. He wants to reform the
Speaker 1: whole system. And it begins with eliminating the real estate taxes,
Speaker 1: not cutting it back by fifty percent, but making it zero.
Speaker 1: What happens to your school district? If the real estate
Speaker 1: tax is zero? How do you pay the bills? And
Speaker 1: I think it's likely to pass. You have people a
Speaker 1: chance in voting down that kind of a tax. Damn it,
Speaker 1: they're going to do it. And then tell the state
Speaker 1: of OHI you figure it out. Grossly increase the sales
Speaker 1: tax to twenty percent on a dollar, or grossly increase
Speaker 1: the state income tax, all of which the Republicans hate
Speaker 1: to do. So that's where we are is let's continue
Speaker 1: plus later on at two o'clock, I have a calling
Speaker 1: in to the mayor of Shiloh, Israel, his name is
Speaker 1: David Rubin, to talk about what's happening this Monday afternoon
Speaker 1: in Israel and where things stand at this point, and
Speaker 1: if a line becomes available, you know the routine five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 1: seven thousand or pounds seven hundred and new at and t.
Speaker 1: I would note, lastly, politically. When something terrible happens, the
Speaker 1: murder of the Minnesota Speaker of the House, a Democrat,
Speaker 1: that many, including Tim Waltz, the governor, wants to make
Speaker 1: it political as if Mega killed the Speaker of the House.
Speaker 1: In Minnesota. There's violence, homicidal, insane violence on both sides.
Speaker 1: The Republicans suffered more of this than the Democrats, such
Speaker 1: as the President Trump getting shot or Steven Scalie getting
Speaker 1: shot wounded, many others at a Republican get together to
Speaker 1: practice for softball games. Also, you have a justice Supreme
Speaker 1: Court Kavanaugh armed gunman outside his home to kill him.
Speaker 1: Happens all the time. So someone pulled up to me
Speaker 1: the appointment that to Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz had of
Speaker 1: Vince Belter, the fifty six year old murderer who killed
Speaker 1: two innocent people in cold blood, and to his appointment
Speaker 1: to a position in Minnesota state government. Governor Tim Waltz
Speaker 1: said the following about this murderer, Van Spelter. About six
Speaker 1: years ago, the governor wrote, quote, because of the special
Speaker 1: trust and confidence I have in your integrity, judgment, and ability,
Speaker 1: I have appointed and commission you to having to hold
Speaker 1: the office of Business member Governor's Workforce Developmental Board, quote unquote,
Speaker 1: there's enough of this political stuff going around. We're not
Speaker 1: a banana republic. We don't kill our political opponents. We
Speaker 1: defeat them with better ideas. But save me the idea
Speaker 1: that only Republicans want to comit to violence against Democrats.
Speaker 1: The opposite is equally too true. And all of it
Speaker 1: is awful. It's terrible. Don't do it. You're homicidal and
Speaker 1: you're insane. Get help. Let's continue with more. And after
Speaker 1: one o'clock today will be that same Matt Huffman. And
Speaker 1: then after two o'clock today we'll be a live call
Speaker 1: from Israel. David Ruben will be hearing more. Let's continue.
Speaker 1: By the way, Reds baseball off today, as you may know,
Speaker 1: at a very successful trip who to Detroit. Segment snickered
Speaker 1: at me when I said, this is a preview of
Speaker 1: the twenty two tent five World Series between the Reds
Speaker 1: and the Tigers. He snickered, Well, segment is not snickering anymore.
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the great American, with you every day. You're
Speaker 1: home of the Reds and Moore. Here's Radio seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW by Billy Cunningham the Great America once again, there's
Speaker 1: lots of doings in Columbus. So many times we in
Speaker 1: Cincinnati think Columbus is not part of our state, and
Speaker 1: many times people in Comings didn't think they're not part
Speaker 1: of Kentucky. But nonetheless, everything happening in Columbus is extremely germane.
Speaker 2: That what's happening in Cincinnati going on?
Speaker 1: You and I now is the Speaker of the House,
Speaker 1: the Honorable Matt Huffman, who has more ConTroll than Columbus
Speaker 1: and maybe even the governor, maybe more than Justice showed
Speaker 1: Eaters and Speaker Matt Huffman, welcome again to the Bill
Speaker 1: Cunningham Show. And first of all, can we deal with
Speaker 1: the funding of the stadium issue? The lawmakers, you're only
Speaker 1: in charge of the House. The Senate has had different
Speaker 1: ideas about using unclaimed funds or bonds. As we sit
Speaker 1: here this Monday afternoon, what's the status of funding the
Speaker 1: Bengals and the Browns, et cetera.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, the Senate came up with a different way
Speaker 5: of doing that than the Governor. Of course, wanted to
Speaker 5: raise the tax on a few things. In order to
Speaker 5: get there. We wanted to use your traditional way, which
Speaker 5: was bonds which we'd be in the House, which we
Speaker 5: could prove would be paid back plus over a billion
Speaker 5: dollars to the state, the state essentially acting as the
Speaker 5: bank and using our triple A credit rating higher than
Speaker 5: the United States government. By the way, the Senates there
Speaker 5: is about four billion dollars sitting in the unclaimed funds
Speaker 5: that's been accumulating since about nineteen oh nine. There have
Speaker 5: been attempts or questions about doing something similar to this
Speaker 5: for other things. But essentially the Senate's ideas to take
Speaker 5: declare a statute of limitations of ten years, set that
Speaker 5: money aside, and make it available for not just sports stadiums,
Speaker 5: but other cultural I think there are there's a few
Speaker 5: problems with that. I think that needs to be defined better.
Speaker 5: I do think that we need to say, look, if
Speaker 5: the state's going to put this money in, there needs
Speaker 5: to be a return on the dollar. That's again why
Speaker 5: I argue the Houses plan, where we know that the
Speaker 5: state is getting its money back plus a billion dollars,
Speaker 5: but we don't know that, and so there definitely needs
Speaker 5: to be some work on the language and the kinds
Speaker 5: of facilities that this can be used. Because lots of
Speaker 5: folks say we love the Cincinnati Bengals, but I love
Speaker 5: the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra a lot more. And there may
Speaker 5: be other building facilities. The other thing we need to
Speaker 5: keep in mind here is we do a capital budget
Speaker 5: every two years, and a lot of these things are funded,
Speaker 5: certainly not to the extent that we're talking about with
Speaker 5: the kinds of dollars. So we're going to work with
Speaker 5: the Senate and see what we can get done.
Speaker 1: Of course, you were a President of the Senate before
Speaker 1: you're Speaker the House. So you're saying that the idea
Speaker 1: of unclaimed funds is like a horse race, and they're
Speaker 1: in the first position at this point and not raising
Speaker 1: taxes otherwise, even though that's the that's monies of the
Speaker 1: American people. I think probably most of us unwittingly have
Speaker 1: money in that fund without knowing about it. But nonetheless,
Speaker 1: is the unclaimed funds kind of in the lead at
Speaker 1: this point.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I try to tell my House members,
Speaker 5: because the Senate puts their version of the budget out,
Speaker 5: that doesn't mean now that's where we're at, and it's
Speaker 5: the document we're working from. And being in both of
Speaker 5: those positions you're in advantage when you're in the Senate
Speaker 5: because you got four months to work on the governor's
Speaker 5: budget instead of only two months, which is much what
Speaker 5: the House has. I think that, you know, the other
Speaker 5: part is that folks have had a couple of months
Speaker 5: to hack around on the idea of the bond and
Speaker 5: all of that. And you know, even though we issue
Speaker 5: we just did in our transportation budget six hundred million
Speaker 5: dollars worth of bonds for the Brent Spence Bridge, and
Speaker 5: we're doing this three or four billion dollars every two years.
Speaker 5: Bond's kind of got a bad name in the last
Speaker 5: couple of months. It is easy to argue. I think that, well,
Speaker 5: these are unclaimed funds. We're not raising taxes, we're not
Speaker 5: loaning money hoping to get paid back. But it's still
Speaker 5: money that belongs to the state government. So I don't
Speaker 5: think we can be cavalier about it. And the other
Speaker 5: part is, well, who's going to get this money? Because
Speaker 5: if there aren't real parameters on it, this one point
Speaker 5: seven billion dollars is going to go out the door
Speaker 5: pretty quickly, and that's what I'm concerned about. I think
Speaker 5: that there needs to be a return on the dollar.
Speaker 5: And I you know, one of the popular things that
Speaker 5: people like to say is well, I kind of say,
Speaker 5: it never gets your money back with sports stadium. Well
Speaker 5: that's true in some cases, it's not true in others.
Speaker 5: And what we need to say is, well, how much
Speaker 5: money it is. How is that money going to come
Speaker 5: back to the you know, to the taxpayers in the
Speaker 5: state of Ohio.
Speaker 2: So I don't I.
Speaker 5: Don't think there's anybody who's in the front. I do
Speaker 5: think that with the exception of the other two branches,
Speaker 5: so to speak, between the speaker and the two two chambers,
Speaker 5: I don't think the two chambers want to raise taxes.
Speaker 5: So it's those are the two things we're talking about.
Speaker 1: So that as the three percent or two percent tax
Speaker 1: on gambling on internet gambling, is that off the board
Speaker 1: at this point? That because that does raise in a
Speaker 1: sense fees. I don't know if it's taxes because you
Speaker 1: voluntarily agree to gamble or not.
Speaker 2: And so is the three Is that is that over with?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well people people say that too. It's like, well, you know,
Speaker 5: we can raise the price or raise the excise on
Speaker 5: gas and you can decide whether to buy gas or not. Well,
Speaker 5: most people can't they got to they got to drive
Speaker 5: for work or or some other reasons. Same thing with
Speaker 5: tax on alcohol cigarette things like that. You all always
Speaker 5: have to look at the tax policy. You raise the
Speaker 5: price on tobacco, people are going to go to Kentucky
Speaker 5: and Cincinnati and bron taxes. And it's the same thing
Speaker 5: with taxes on gambling. I will tell you that the
Speaker 5: sixty five member House Republican Caucus is not interested in
Speaker 5: raising taxes, and so that we just we're not going
Speaker 5: to go for the governor's proposal. He and I've had
Speaker 5: a few set down meetings about that, and we also
Speaker 5: think that it won't raise the tax because the people
Speaker 5: will always avoid paying a tax when they can. And
Speaker 5: you know all those folks who for years went over
Speaker 5: to Indiana and bought their liquor there and brought it
Speaker 5: back to their lake house and Ohio, you know, at
Speaker 5: least in western Ohio, go to Grand Lake Saint Mary's
Speaker 5: and see how many Ohio tax there are in a
Speaker 5: guy's bourbon bottle there.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of told by those in Columbus that
Speaker 1: you're the man. And if the man is saying no
Speaker 1: tax on the gambling, the Brown the Browns bond issue
Speaker 1: is not good. I hear the man saying, okay, the
Speaker 1: unclaimed funds with the stage of limitations is the least
Speaker 1: painful way.
Speaker 2: Am I right or wrong about that?
Speaker 5: I think that's a fair way to look at. Let me,
Speaker 5: by the way, just dissuade you. If there is somebody
Speaker 5: who quote unquote is the man, it's always the governor
Speaker 5: of the state of Ohio. And but the important part
Speaker 5: about our constitutional republic is that whoever the man is
Speaker 5: doesn't have complete control over what happens. Especially when it
Speaker 5: comes to raising taxes. You've got to have both houses
Speaker 5: sign off. And even though it's controlled by Republicans, not
Speaker 5: all those people think the same thing and serve through
Speaker 5: in my caucus. We've got a different different sets of
Speaker 5: opinions about that. I think I got to say this,
Speaker 5: Ohio is one of the highest taxed states in the country.
Speaker 5: It is the highest tax state in the country that
Speaker 5: is controlled by a Republican government with both chambers and
Speaker 5: the government. It's not a question of whether we have
Speaker 5: enough money, it's how we're spending it, making sure that
Speaker 5: there's an appropriate regular flow that to pay for ongoing services.
Speaker 5: And I'll say, one more thing bill in case you
Speaker 5: want to talk about real estate tax and becoming potential initiative.
Speaker 5: Ohio has over six thousand local taxing districts, more than
Speaker 5: any other state in the Union, more than very liberal California,
Speaker 5: which by the way, is four times bigger than us
Speaker 5: population wise, So there isn't And we have ten billion
Speaker 5: dollars in our any Day Fund, which is good because
Speaker 5: it'll rain someday. But we also have three or four
Speaker 5: billion dollars that, as we say, is slashing around in
Speaker 5: checking accounts, which means it doesn't get spent by agencies,
Speaker 5: it's reappropriated two years later. And so it's all of
Speaker 5: that money that you know, when we go to talk
Speaker 5: about flat taxes for income tax, those things are all there.
Speaker 5: I do think, you know, the way you put it,
Speaker 5: this sun plane funds thing is the least painful way
Speaker 5: because we're not raising taxes. But I don't I think
Speaker 5: we have to have the appropriate parameters on there. So
Speaker 5: it's not just well, you know, these guys want this
Speaker 5: and those guys want that. I mean, I think we
Speaker 5: have to show an investment or return those kinds of
Speaker 5: things before the dollars go out. So but this this
Speaker 5: local Uh, we have a lot of local governments and
Speaker 5: people like that. You know, people like to have you know,
Speaker 5: a start name in Cincinnati villages. And you know the
Speaker 5: folks in Chevy that love having their own government, right
Speaker 5: than folks and Anderson and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: They don't want to have one city in Hamilton County, right, No,
Speaker 5: But that all costs money.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this question.
Speaker 1: I saw an article, maybe it was in the Dispatch,
Speaker 1: that if you give us an opportunity to eliminate real
Speaker 1: estate taxes, we're going to do it. And then I
Speaker 1: read the flip side of that. Sounds a great idea,
Speaker 1: get rid of all taxes and just live out of
Speaker 1: the ether. But I'm told that if we vote on
Speaker 1: this thing, it's likely to pass unless the electorate is informed.
Speaker 1: Assuming all the real estate taxes in the state of
Speaker 1: Ohio go away, where does the money come from to
Speaker 1: run schools and police and fire locally, where does up
Speaker 1: money come from? If we voted down, which is I
Speaker 1: think is likely, it's going to be no more real
Speaker 1: estate taxes. Even rich people like Rocky Boyman, tell me
Speaker 1: give me a chance get rid of real estate taxes.
Speaker 2: I'll do it.
Speaker 1: But the problem is, Okay, how do you fund your
Speaker 1: schools which is in crisis anyway? So assuming the real
Speaker 1: estate thing is on the ballot in November or next May,
Speaker 1: and assuming it passes, how much of a financial crisis
Speaker 1: crisis would that be for schools, police, and fire.
Speaker 5: Well it's extraordinary, I guess that's the headline. But it's
Speaker 5: going to affect people and entities in different ways. Municipal
Speaker 5: corporation cities and villages not as much because they have
Speaker 5: a municipal income tax, they only get a little bit
Speaker 5: of the real estate tax. Schools are going to be
Speaker 5: tremendously affected. Will have to reach structure how local government
Speaker 5: works in state of Ohio, and people will say, well,
Speaker 5: we can't possibly do that. You know, remember in Florida,
Speaker 5: which is fifty percent bigger than us, they only have
Speaker 5: sixty six school districts, one for each county. We have
Speaker 5: over six hundred. Now, having fewer school districts doesn't mean
Speaker 5: you have to have fewer high schools and all of that.
Speaker 5: But again it's a we're Ohioans and we don't like
Speaker 5: the people live over the ridge telling us what to do.
Speaker 5: And we even like to argue with whoever, let's start.
Speaker 2: Down right right.
Speaker 5: But I don't see that elimination of real estate tax
Speaker 5: will cause the state government to say, okay, well we're
Speaker 5: going to raise the income tax and we're going to
Speaker 5: raise the sales tax to make up for all of
Speaker 5: those taxes. It's you know, there will be a massive
Speaker 5: restruction and bill. That's why we're trying to do some
Speaker 5: of the things that we're doing right now. You know,
Speaker 5: in Hamilton County, they are the example of what I
Speaker 5: think a local library district should be. There's one in
Speaker 5: the whole county. Well, in ashe Tabula County they have
Speaker 5: nine local library districts. One of the districts up in
Speaker 5: Summit County they only have five hundred people who live
Speaker 5: there because they all want to run their own library. Well,
Speaker 5: all of that means you got an administrator and all
Speaker 5: the employees and all of those kinds of things. And
Speaker 5: if you want to have all that level of local control,
Speaker 5: you have to pay for it. So we're going to
Speaker 5: do some things the House is working on and to
Speaker 5: do something, as we say, big and bold regarding property text.
Speaker 5: And we did that in our budget with the stuff
Speaker 5: that we did with the schools. So we need to
Speaker 5: do something to control this, to look at these folks
Speaker 5: who want to put this on it, to look at
Speaker 5: Rocky Boyman or whoever it is, and say, look, we
Speaker 5: changed a lot of this in the budget in June,
Speaker 5: so take a look at that before. And because if
Speaker 5: we don't, if we simply Thummer knows that the public
Speaker 5: can say we're public schools and you know we don't
Speaker 5: want to we don't want to do that, well it's
Speaker 5: heading for.
Speaker 2: Catastrophe, no question.
Speaker 1: Because you either pay sales tax, income tax, or real
Speaker 1: estate tax. And if real estate tax is completely eliminated
Speaker 1: in Hamilton County you may be aware of this. We
Speaker 1: have like twelve special levies that we'll always vote yes on,
Speaker 1: the Zoo, Senior Citizens, disabled, whoever it is, which is
Speaker 1: now growing in library and if that all goes away,
Speaker 1: that means the funding for all those organizations go away.
Speaker 1: A lot of rich guys who have little or no
Speaker 1: income because they live on dividends, etc.
Speaker 2: Have big mansions.
Speaker 1: They are going to pay no tax and then they
Speaker 1: can go to buy their sales taxes through the internet
Speaker 1: and pay no sales tax. And the people have got
Speaker 1: to be informed and you know, Speaker Huffman, we get
Speaker 1: the government we deserve. And if we vote to eliminate
Speaker 1: real estate taxes for you, that will be a crisis.
Speaker 2: Am I right?
Speaker 5: It will be. But here's thet I guess anecdote. And
Speaker 5: as you know, and I think your listeners know, I've
Speaker 5: been a school choice guy since they started in the
Speaker 5: legislature seventeen years ago. I've been punted around pretty good
Speaker 5: by the public school lobby. They sued me, they had
Speaker 5: a process, server sued me, served me personally in the
Speaker 5: Senate President's office. I think, in an attempt to intimidate me.
Speaker 5: You know that that's not good usual practice, even though
Speaker 5: you can do it as a lawyer. You know what
Speaker 5: they were trying to do there. And so we we
Speaker 5: put in the House's budget this thirty percent AREO. You
Speaker 5: can carry over thirty percent of your funds, but the
Speaker 5: rest is going to immediate property reduction in January of
Speaker 5: twenty six. And of course, at the time, you know,
Speaker 5: this was two months ago, that was you know, here's
Speaker 5: Hoffman again. He hates children and I like, but of
Speaker 5: course I don't. I have several of my own eleven grandchildren.
Speaker 5: But anyway, within the past month or so, I've had
Speaker 5: my local school some of my local superintendents show up
Speaker 5: at my law crilia and you know, they're suggesting that
Speaker 5: we have to have maybe in restrictions according to inflation.
Speaker 5: They see some other things that maybe maybe we should
Speaker 5: get rid of emergency level. And so they see what
Speaker 5: I've been trying to talk about for the last five
Speaker 5: years is you can't just keep raising taxes and expect
Speaker 5: the public to take it. And so we have at
Speaker 5: least some reasonable people within the public school sector who
Speaker 5: are talking about that. It's and it's I think it's
Speaker 5: because of this thing is laying out there, and also
Speaker 5: because of the valuations. We have many school districts sitting
Speaker 5: on one hundred, one hundred and fifty or two hundred
Speaker 5: percent of the other operating expenses, which in some cases
Speaker 5: that's not much money. If you're at a small rural
Speaker 5: school district in western Ohio, it's not a lot necessarily
Speaker 5: a lot of cash. But you know, in City of Columbus,
Speaker 5: which spent about eight hundred million dollars plus in their
Speaker 5: school district, and they're not hesitant to spend money on
Speaker 5: new employees and things like that. I could give you
Speaker 5: a rundown on that, but they carried over four hundred
Speaker 5: million dollars, almost fifty percent of their of their operating
Speaker 5: and of course when we say why didn't you give
Speaker 5: some tax relief to the people who are paying that, Well,
Speaker 5: because it's our money. That's why one of the superintendents testified.
Speaker 5: They said, well, we use the carryover money and we
Speaker 5: made eight million dollars to investment income. And she said
Speaker 5: that in a meeting and a committee meeting, and of
Speaker 5: course one of the one of the state reps said, well,
Speaker 5: don't you think they would be people are paying those
Speaker 5: taxes would rather see that investment income in their checkbook
Speaker 5: your checkbook?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Didn't think of it that way. Well, of course they would.
Speaker 5: And so let's fund the schools, make sure that they
Speaker 5: have the money that they need reasonably to run their operations,
Speaker 5: do all of those things, but they don't have to
Speaker 5: have money sitting in their checking account which could go
Speaker 5: for property tax. Really, that's why the House did what
Speaker 5: they did. The Senate did a different version of it.
Speaker 5: They said fifty percent set of thirty percent. We're going
Speaker 5: to try to work that out, but there needs to
Speaker 5: be other local reform. Otherwise this thing is going to
Speaker 5: gain legs and it will be a true come to
Speaker 5: Jesus meeting in January of twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Matt Hoffman, thank you, you're about two weeks away. I
Speaker 1: see the three percent tax on gambling that's gone. It
Speaker 1: appears that the bonding of for Cleveland Browns that appears
Speaker 1: not to be in a good shape. There's a big
Speaker 1: article in the inquir this morning about Hamlet County given
Speaker 1: the option by the Senate to levy a cigarettes cigarette tax,
Speaker 1: and you're telling me that you don't care much for
Speaker 1: that one either. And it appears like the unclaimed funds
Speaker 1: may be in the lead at this point, but you
Speaker 1: got ten more days of tough negotiations.
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Can you give me a thirty second answer on the
Speaker 1: coroner's offices?
Speaker 2: I can you give it?
Speaker 1: Is it possible to give me a thirty thirty second
Speaker 1: answer on the Hamony County corner? Last me some Marco
Speaker 1: and others? Well, is that going to be kept? Or
Speaker 1: are you going to eliminate corners offices and let the
Speaker 1: county commissioners.
Speaker 5: Appoint Well, you know, as I'm this is part a
Speaker 5: little bit part of a general discussion is when we
Speaker 5: start talking about local government reform, the question is how
Speaker 5: many elected officials do we be? And I understand, and
Speaker 5: you made a good argument. In fact, I met with
Speaker 5: your corner. She's outstanding, the very, very impressive person, and
Speaker 5: I would say that it's probably an issue that several
Speaker 5: notches down in terms of House priorities. If this is
Speaker 5: something that the Senate is going to insist on, we
Speaker 5: probably will. But I would pose to Bill Cunningham, your listeners,
Speaker 5: and everybody else where do we go to shrink local
Speaker 5: government and therefore the cost to the taxpayer. Who's willing
Speaker 5: to step up and say, well, you know, I don't
Speaker 5: know how many municipal corporations there in Hamilton County, but
Speaker 5: how many do we need? And I'm sure the answer
Speaker 5: from the least the city officials will be everyone.
Speaker 1: Every thirty nine of them. We need thirty nine of them,
Speaker 1: all of them, we need every one of them. Cut nothing,
Speaker 1: increase everything. And that's that's why we're where we are.
Speaker 1: Speaker Huffman, we got to run, but thanks for coming on,
Speaker 1: and maybe when everything is finally concluding about two weeks,
Speaker 1: we'll do it again.
Speaker 2: When it's done.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well thanks again, Bill, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Matt Huffman, thank you very much. Let's continue with more.
Speaker 1: Matt Huffman the Speaker of the House, he was President
Speaker 1: of the Senate. Despite his Protestations and Columbus, he is
Speaker 1: the man. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 4: Run.
Speaker 3: In one of the most unlikely final round Sundays in
Speaker 3: US Open history, j Spond closes the deal.
Speaker 2: We're a little barty at the last.
Speaker 5: Hello, buyet and I'm.
Speaker 2: Broadcasting God there was another dramatic birdie on that Saturday.
Speaker 2: Well that had to be the one that that call
Speaker 2: right there has to be the one at Clovernook, right
Speaker 2: or was it was that at Oakmont?
Speaker 1: It was Joe Eaters and me against the other two leaters,
Speaker 1: brothers Buzzard and Dennis Dieters.
Speaker 2: Okay, and all the chips are down.
Speaker 1: Make sure their husbands just as Joe Eaters with that
Speaker 1: twenty six handicap Bertie's number eighteen at Clovernook.
Speaker 2: What that was the call right there? Fnny? That was
Speaker 2: the call? So he had two chances, He had two
Speaker 2: chances for the win and only needed was one and
Speaker 2: he Bertie.
Speaker 1: Joe Dieters said it was a long unforgiving part ful
Speaker 1: had to be at least five hundred and ten yard
Speaker 1: par four number eighteen of Clovernook Justice Show hits A
Speaker 1: long drive pulls out.
Speaker 2: Like Scottie Scheffler, medium iron. Yeah, gets about twelve feet
Speaker 2: from the hole, runs it in for a three and
Speaker 2: you and you get you get the money, you get
Speaker 2: the mine all you got, the money, you got everything,
Speaker 2: they get it all ten dollars is what we want. Jeez,
Speaker 2: Marty Brannan JJ spawn won about what they three point
Speaker 2: eight million or something?
Speaker 1: I think four point five. But nonetheless I call him
Speaker 1: now JJ Dieters, welcome. He didn't call in and be
Speaker 1: on about his famous Sea Dodds. He doesn't talk to
Speaker 1: us anymore. He's in the ivory towers of the Ohio
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. JJ Dieters, Birdie's eighteen for all the marbles
Speaker 1: and triumphantly he's on your team.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: It was me and him and knocking off his brothers,
Speaker 1: knocked them both down because and Dennis Teeters went down hard.
Speaker 2: I bet you they're not gonna sit together thanksgiving. Nobody
Speaker 2: no talking whatsoever. JJ.
Speaker 1: By the way, the earnings were four point three million plus.
Speaker 2: I say you one thing. There was a lot of
Speaker 2: guys really yesterday that ball they were they were yeah.
Speaker 2: I wish their thoughts would have been on the screen
Speaker 2: because that hat and guy was all over the place.
Speaker 2: He was about ready to throw his UH, throw his
Speaker 2: entire bag into the into the UH, into the crowd.
Speaker 2: Sam Burns on a bad call. How about that deal?
Speaker 2: There's no water around east Water he's practicing and the
Speaker 2: waters going like crazy.
Speaker 1: There was three fish swimming around his feet. Thank you, No,
Speaker 1: I can't see water. Those officials must have been Democrats.
Speaker 2: For that, I guess so.
Speaker 1: But JJ Dieters got it done on the eighteenth with
Speaker 1: a birdie.
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Speaker 2: one three five three one sixty nine hundred sports sports
Speaker 2: thank you, Roxy La Da La Cruz. How about that? Well,
Speaker 2: they they've had some. They made an attempt at extending
Speaker 2: his contract.
Speaker 1: But no, no, what can you tell me nothing? I
Speaker 1: have my sources Midela cruise.
Speaker 2: Nick Kroll on MLB Radio said that you know they
Speaker 2: tried to talk, but I guess, well, you know whose
Speaker 2: agent is, mister Burrows. The other thing is they offered
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars on a six year deal that
Speaker 2: would take him up to twenty thirty one. Where's the pen?
Speaker 1: One hundred million? But Scott burra ass said, na babana.
Speaker 1: And they also offered Matt McClain fifty million.
Speaker 2: This is in March.
Speaker 1: Now, until if I was him, I would have taken
Speaker 1: the dough ray and to me. But now look at
Speaker 1: Matt McClain. You're laughed and snickered at him. You're not
Speaker 1: snickering anymore.
Speaker 2: Segment. Let's see La day la Cruz. Willie Homer scored
Speaker 2: three times, drove in three Reds, knock off those Tigers
Speaker 2: and come from behind fashion eight to four. And you
Speaker 2: snicker when I said it was going to happen. You'd
Speaker 2: like the Red Legs take two or three in the series. Again,
Speaker 2: Detroit against one of the best teams, the best team
Speaker 2: in baseball in their home ballpark. Take that Motown wasn't
Speaker 2: even competitive. The Red streak of losing thirty nine consecutive
Speaker 2: series done after losing the first game of a series
Speaker 2: comes to an end. How many series thirty nine? So
Speaker 2: they're one in thirty nine. You gotta do it sometime
Speaker 2: off day to day they're sitting around taking it easy
Speaker 2: in the sunshine, and the Reds short homestand begins tomorrow
Speaker 2: night with the first of three up against h Harmon
Speaker 2: Killer Brew. What about the twin Tonyo Leva and the
Speaker 2: Minnesota Twins? What about Tony lev The action will be
Speaker 2: right here on seven hundred WLW. You snickered at snickering anymore?
Speaker 2: The Savannah Bananas were in town, unbelievable, sold out crowds
Speaker 2: at GABP Bronson Arroyo sang Todd Frazier was there, Friezier?
Speaker 2: What about Danny Graves? Was there? Wild Man's good buddy?
Speaker 2: But what about the mayor? The mayor Sean Casey rounded
Speaker 2: first and did exactly what I did well. He tore
Speaker 2: his hamstring running the bases. Reports are he needs surgery.
Speaker 2: Not good, Call him up, Bengals. Update brought to you
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Speaker 2: in northern Kentucky, where ESPN says the Bengals and Trey
Speaker 2: Hendrickson are back at the bargaining table talking about a
Speaker 2: contract extension. Get him done, Get him done, both of them.
Speaker 2: Let's see what are the Let's see the Bengals get
Speaker 2: Higgins Chase and they're gonna get hopefully Trey Hendrickson maybe,
Speaker 2: and then the Reds get day La Crue and somebody else.
Speaker 2: On long term deals were in, like Flint.
Speaker 1: Would you sign for one hundred million dollars? If you're
Speaker 1: Dela Cruz, he could overrule his agent and say yes,
Speaker 1: what percent of his money goes to back to the
Speaker 1: Dominican on that deal?
Speaker 2: We signed a deal deal, that's all. I don't know.
Speaker 1: He got two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to sign
Speaker 1: away chunks of his future earnings.
Speaker 2: Your comments on that not good? Fifth third Bank JJ
Speaker 2: spawn Birdie the seventeenth and eighteen holes, the victory of
Speaker 2: the US Open. As you heard there in the Open,
Speaker 2: he bogey five of the first six holes. He was
Speaker 2: down four shots at the turn and one by two.
Speaker 2: It beat everybody by six. Unbelievable. Andy Mackett on.
Speaker 1: Whole number two, h's an iron in, yeah, which would
Speaker 1: have been near the pin. It hit the pin on
Speaker 1: a fly, catapulted the ball back down the fairway sixty
Speaker 1: yards from the green, and at one point he was
Speaker 1: at the hole, but it hit the pin itself through
Speaker 1: the ball backwards.
Speaker 2: Well, I tell you one thing, Oakmont brought those guys
Speaker 2: to his knees. I love that because that Hatton, Scheffler,
Speaker 2: Sam Burns, all the rest of them. They're thinking, we're
Speaker 2: going to go play this week and I'm going to
Speaker 2: be thirty five thousand under part to win the tournament.
Speaker 2: How about this?
Speaker 1: No team in the National League has a better record
Speaker 1: over the last ten games than the Cincinnati Read how
Speaker 1: about that? And you're laughing and snickering. But Hunter Green, Oh,
Speaker 1: here we go, here we go.
Speaker 2: It's like a little bit of long scary, a little
Speaker 2: bit longer this time around with that on the il
Speaker 2: for young Green, let's say the All Star break. Uh,
Speaker 2: he's rehabbing in Arizona. Not good.
Speaker 1: He's a young man. What's like twenty four. How do
Speaker 1: you have a groin problem when you're twenty four? I
Speaker 1: guess you got you know, that's that's what happens. Then
Speaker 1: you got a back problem.
Speaker 2: Jameric Handelario, Oh foul, the ball off his foot, the
Speaker 2: same foot that he broke a toe on about a
Speaker 2: year ago or something. He's okay. I think he's still
Speaker 2: in the lineup for the bats. He's still but I
Speaker 2: think he's he's batting. He's battan on the interstate. Uh,
Speaker 2: in triple A. This is forty five million dollars right,
Speaker 2: thank you?
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Let's see FIFA Club World Cup action yesterday at TQL Stadium,
Speaker 2: Harry Kane. What about Kaca and Bayern Munich routed Auckland
Speaker 2: City ten nil? Well, there's ten to nothing that doesn't
Speaker 2: happen in say earned music. No, so in the US.
Speaker 2: Be Trendidad Tobago three five nothing, then their four game
Speaker 2: streak and their Conca calf A Gold Cup opener.
Speaker 1: By the way, the Twinkies are thirty six and thirty five.
Speaker 1: The Reds are thirty seven and thirty five. The Reds
Speaker 1: have a better record than the Twinkies.
Speaker 2: Also, Willy, of course Raphael Devers didn't want to play
Speaker 2: third base? Uh in Boston? How much would you three
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five million would you use? What position?
Speaker 2: Would you play? Any where? I I I would I
Speaker 2: would work on the grounds crew unbelievable, traded from Boston
Speaker 2: to San Francisco. But he now says he's had a
Speaker 2: change of heart. He's going to play because San Francisco
Speaker 2: has already got a Gold Glove third baseman. He says, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going one for the team. I'm gonna play first base.
Speaker 2: What a sacrifice? What is and the Giants he spent
Speaker 2: He signed like a three hundred and thirteen million dollar
Speaker 2: deal with the Red Sox. The Giants are going to
Speaker 2: pay whatever they the two hundred and fifty plus million
Speaker 2: dollars that are left sign Dela Cruz. Come the Reds
Speaker 2: didn't get him. Who's going to pay that money? I
Speaker 2: don't know. The Giants. The Giants are going to pay
Speaker 2: out the rest of his deal. And and that he
Speaker 2: I think it was a ten year deal in Boston.
Speaker 2: I don't get it. Joey Chestnut, he's been here. He's
Speaker 2: going to return this year July fourth to the Nathan's
Speaker 2: Hot Dog eating contest. It's been worked out. He's not
Speaker 2: he doesn't have any ties anymore with that Vegan hot
Speaker 2: Dog or whatever it was from last year. So he's
Speaker 2: back on the fourth of July.
Speaker 1: He sat there about eight years ago and order two
Speaker 1: large loaded pepperoni large pizzas from l ross had him
Speaker 1: delivered eight both of them. How do you eat too
Speaker 1: large loaded pizzas from Lrosa?
Speaker 2: How do you do that? Two?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: He did? I couldn't believe it. I couldn't either, And
Speaker 2: he said he's still a little bit hungry. I said,
Speaker 2: get some bread sticks. Let's see college basketball. It's all
Speaker 2: official now, Wes Miller's sense of that of Bearcats are
Speaker 2: going to host Dayton Tuesday, November eleventh, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: at Fifth Third Arena, going to open a home and
Speaker 2: home series between the in state programs. It's about time
Speaker 2: and the bear Cats are going to make a return
Speaker 2: trip to the gym city during the twenty twenty six,
Speaker 2: twenty seventh season. It's not Miller time and Xavier anymore.
Speaker 2: You aware of that?
Speaker 1: I know, well that's true. You're right, Texas long horns. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hook them horns.
Speaker 2: Here we go. I shouldn't say that because people get mad.
Speaker 2: NBA Finals resumed tonight, Indiana and Oak City series two
Speaker 2: to two, and then, of course, the Stanley Cup Finals
Speaker 2: resumed tomorrow with Game six and the Panthers up there
Speaker 2: three to two, so Florida may hoist the cup JJ
Speaker 2: for a second year in a row.
Speaker 1: Probably saw what Joe Dieters did on eighteen to Clovernook
Speaker 1: and took that as a q to have my putt
Speaker 1: on eighteen.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good point. Joe Dieters brought down the house. Well,
Speaker 2: congratulations to him.
Speaker 1: And Joe won ten bucks, which I didn't collect. By
Speaker 1: the way, I didn't feel bad taking that money. Didn't
Speaker 1: feel I felt.
Speaker 2: It for what you won. I know a one, but
Speaker 2: I thought that, Well, you think they can't, you think
Speaker 2: the Deeters family can't afford ten bucks?
Speaker 4: What was it? I mean?
Speaker 2: Was there was there a gallery around the eighteenth hold
Speaker 2: see this giant force amount. I mean, that's like Nicholas,
Speaker 2: night player, Trevigno and Palmer getting together. It was pretty
Speaker 2: big because although that one guy on Saturday said that
Speaker 2: he talked to Arnold Palmer I saw about the second
Speaker 2: round of the US Open. I'm thinking many years ago. Well, no,
Speaker 2: he was talking like he talked to him yesterday. Arnold Palmer.
Speaker 2: He's been dead for seven or eight years.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: But the guy meant Jack Nicholas, he meant to say,
Speaker 2: he's meant to say Jack Nicholas, Well, maybe seance or something. Maybe.
Speaker 1: I don't know, who knows what those guys do. I
Speaker 1: don't know what they're doing. But they were in Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: near Pittsburgh, Latrobe, not too far away.
Speaker 2: You see that rough it ate the ball. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 2: I mean I watched that. I'm thinking those guys hit
Speaker 2: it out of the grass like I do. One hit
Speaker 2: it like five feet ten feet.
Speaker 1: I mean in the sixties, God himself was walking with
Speaker 1: Jack and Arnie up number eighteen of augusta National by themselves.
Speaker 1: God Almighty turned to Jack Nicholas and said, Jack, you'll
Speaker 1: be the greatest of all time, but they will love
Speaker 1: him more, pinting toward Arnold. That is from God Almighty.
Speaker 1: Jack will be the greatest of all time, but they
Speaker 1: will love him more.
Speaker 2: How about that? Is that the truth? Tiger v? Jack?
Speaker 2: What's say you? I'm going with the Golden Bear all
Speaker 2: the way with Ted McKay willis I'm going with Tiger.
Speaker 2: I'm going with a golden bear. I say, Jack Nicholas
Speaker 2: is the greatest major champion of all time, but no
Speaker 2: doubt about that. Tiger Woods is the greatest golfer. But
Speaker 2: he's about how many times has he said? How many
Speaker 2: times is Nicholas fit his second or third or in
Speaker 2: the top five in his career in the tournament?
Speaker 1: As you know, Jack won eighteen majors and he finished
Speaker 1: second nineteen times.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: That's thirty seven times first or second. By the way,
Speaker 1: Tiger won fifteen majors in finished second five times. So
Speaker 1: if he's take eighteen and nineteen, that's thirty seven. Take
Speaker 1: fifteen and five that's twenty. So it's thirty seven versus twenty.
Speaker 1: How can you say I'm still going with a golden bear? Well,
Speaker 1: Jack Nicholas was first or second thirty seven times in
Speaker 1: the majors, and Tiger was first or second twenty times.
Speaker 1: So shall we say Jack Nicholas by far is the
Speaker 1: greatest major champion of all time? But Tiger won six consecutive,
Speaker 1: three Junior and three US Amateurs six con second beginning
Speaker 1: of the age of twelve, Jack won two throw On
Speaker 1: top of that that, Jack only only won sixty seven
Speaker 1: tournaments and Tiger won eighty two. Now what do you
Speaker 1: say both won individual national championships in NCAA, Right, But
Speaker 1: put all that together, segment, what does it mean?
Speaker 2: I I don't either, and their prime I like to
Speaker 2: see him tee it up? Are you? Are you worried about?
Speaker 4: Is you?
Speaker 2: And J? J? J? Jeters? JJ Dieters is now name
Speaker 2: number eighteen of Clovernook? Was it up? Harry? Downhill? Was
Speaker 2: it right? The left?
Speaker 3: What? What?
Speaker 1: It began a little bit uphill okay? Then I went
Speaker 1: a little bit downhill.
Speaker 2: He's crossing the the green. Then I went a little
Speaker 2: bit left. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then I went a little bit right okay, And it
Speaker 1: came back this way. Then it circled and went back
Speaker 1: toward the cup, ran in like a mouse in a hole.
Speaker 2: So he put tremendous spin on a t.
Speaker 1: Joe Dieters got it done, and Dennis Theaters and the collapsed.
Speaker 2: What about? What about Harry Alexander? Was he on the side?
Speaker 2: Was there monitoring it? Okay?
Speaker 1: Harry Alexander is the man. He runs the place with
Speaker 1: an iron grip. Ye, So I couldn't believe what I
Speaker 1: was watching.
Speaker 4: J J.
Speaker 2: Dieters got it done, taking me out. Who had to
Speaker 2: buy afterwards? Well, I mean you have a ginger ale
Speaker 2: and the rest of them have what well? Joe and
Speaker 2: I Martinalisa parking lot.
Speaker 4: It did.
Speaker 2: We left him alone, got your ten bucks in right
Speaker 2: out the door.
Speaker 1: I put down the winning and I said, guys, live
Speaker 1: with it. See you wouldn't want to be a se
Speaker 1: We have a call coming in from Israel. David Ruben
Speaker 1: Na Ruben Sandwich after it right there will he he's
Speaker 1: in Israel getting bombed as we speak. And how about
Speaker 1: the hooties in southern Yemen or a bunch of shepherds.
Speaker 1: Somehow they have intercontinental ballistic missiles that fired at Israel
Speaker 1: from where Iran? Boy, give me out a sush report please,
Speaker 1: But remember J. J.
Speaker 2: Dieters William was on this date of June sixteenth, nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy eight. Really, mister Tom Terrific, Tom Seaver through his
Speaker 2: first and only no hitter of his career Riverfront Stadium,
Speaker 2: beating the Saint Louis Cardinals for nothing, a ground out
Speaker 2: by silent George Hendrick at first base. Danny Dreeson got
Speaker 2: the ball went the first today nineteen seventy eight, Tom
Speaker 2: Severs is only no hitter, Tom Terrific, vis you rest
Speaker 2: in peace. Segment. Thank you. Israel is next with a
Speaker 2: call from Jerusalem. We leave you with the immortal words
Speaker 2: of the stood report. Tyler Stevenson, gotta be ready on
Speaker 2: the first pitch.
Speaker 6: Here, bases loaded, one out, two to one ball game,
Speaker 6: Reds have the lead and a breaking ball hit well
Speaker 6: by Stevenson, high and deep the left field. It is
Speaker 6: up there.
Speaker 1: It is gone.
Speaker 2: Hey, grand playing hold run for Tyler Stevenson. Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: not snickering anymore. Keep it going against those twinkies tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Keep snickering and I'll keep picking the red segment. Yeah, Austin, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said the RESI win six games in the month
Speaker 1: of June. Mister negative, he won six games in the
Speaker 1: last week, thank you. On news Radio seven hundred Wautow.
Speaker 1: For the last three or four days, missiles have been
Speaker 1: exchanged back and forth. Sadly, Israel can only stop about
Speaker 1: eighty to eighty five percent of the missiles. Are as
Speaker 1: many deaths in Israel on a war launched by Iran
Speaker 1: about officially about two years ago, or so two and
Speaker 1: a half years ago, but it's been going on since
Speaker 1: at least nineteen seventy nine before that. Joan, you and
Speaker 1: I now from Israel, and there may be a slight
Speaker 1: delay in questions and answers to the Great David Rubin.
Speaker 1: He's the former mayor of Shiloh Israel. Also he's the
Speaker 1: founder of the Shiloh Israel Children's Fund. And David Rubin,
Speaker 1: welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. As we sit
Speaker 1: here this Monday afternoon, what is the status of Israel
Speaker 1: right now as you and I speak?
Speaker 4: Well, thank you, Bill. We are on the attack in Iran.
Speaker 4: We are on the offensive. And as you know, if
Speaker 4: you want to win a war, or even if you
Speaker 4: just want to win a game, the best defense is
Speaker 4: a good open and that's what we're doing, thank God, finally,
Speaker 4: and and that's what needs to be done. That's the
Speaker 4: only way to stop this evil empire called Iran with
Speaker 4: the Ayatola at its head.
Speaker 1: And one thing, one thing I'm paying attention to is
Speaker 1: that the Ayatola in Iran has spread its tentacles to
Speaker 1: South America. There's Hesbela factions in South America. There's a
Speaker 1: Hoodis tribe of about fifty thousand, largely they're shepherds and
Speaker 1: Southern Yemen that's been given ballistic missiles by Iran. Iran's
Speaker 1: proxies and Hesbil and a Moss have attacked from the
Speaker 1: north in the South.
Speaker 2: This is ongoing.
Speaker 1: I want to get your census to the Israeli people
Speaker 1: we're in the States who are told often there's a sism,
Speaker 1: a split between Israelis who want to continue the fight,
Speaker 1: some who want to want to sue for peace. This
Speaker 1: Monday afternoon, what's the sentiment now of the Israeli people
Speaker 1: about this, about this war between you and Iran?
Speaker 2: What's the sentiment.
Speaker 4: Well, look, as in any country in the Western world,
Speaker 4: you have the sick, self hating individuals on the far
Speaker 4: left who only wants to self destruct. Unfortunately, we do
Speaker 4: have some of them in Israel. But when it comes
Speaker 4: to the war with Iran, there isn't even a question
Speaker 4: you would fight. It. Very hard to find an Israeli
Speaker 4: who does not think that this is as just the
Speaker 4: war as there ever was. We're talking about fighting against
Speaker 4: an enemy that has been threatening Israel with complete destruction
Speaker 4: for about thirty years now, and we're talking about an
Speaker 4: enemy that had chance. In their parliament they chant death
Speaker 4: to Israel, the Little Satan, and death to America, the
Speaker 4: Big Satan. They've been doing this for decades, Bill, and
Speaker 4: it's time that the world wakes up to it, and
Speaker 4: you know, we've been saying that for a long time,
Speaker 4: but apparently, other than President Trump and his administration, much
Speaker 4: of the world has not waken up. Most of the
Speaker 4: world has not waken up, and so unfortunately we have
Speaker 4: to do it ourselves. But we're proud to do it ourselves.
Speaker 4: And we you know, we've never asked for American boots
Speaker 4: on the ground, No, even though even though they're you know,
Speaker 4: it certainly could be useful to have those heavy bunker
Speaker 4: busting bombs to get to the one nuclear plant that
Speaker 4: we can get to so easily because it's deeply buried
Speaker 4: on the ground in Iran, and they're feverishly working on
Speaker 4: nuclear weapons there and in all of their other nuclear plants,
Speaker 4: some of which we've already destroyed, at least partially.
Speaker 2: Now I listen, I watch everything that I can.
Speaker 1: I guess this is the first time in a long
Speaker 1: time that the Israel have the support tacitly of Saudi
Speaker 1: Arabia cut or the UAE, Syria indirectly if they really
Speaker 1: are a country anymore, or Turkey. Isn't there a sense
Speaker 1: that this is the moment, this is the hour, and
Speaker 1: that you cannot have a piece. Piece is always a
Speaker 1: great thing. But if the Eye Tolla is still in
Speaker 1: charge of Iran, they still have nuclear capability delayed one
Speaker 1: or two years. Is that really a rightful piece or
Speaker 1: must that regime be eliminated for world peace? Can you
Speaker 1: end this war, David Rubin? There in Israel with the
Speaker 1: Eye Toolla is still in charge and their capability of
Speaker 1: putting together nuclear technology and killing Israel by the six
Speaker 1: million at a time? Can you end this war with
Speaker 1: Iran still with the ability of producing nuclear weapons?
Speaker 4: Well, your two words about the six million is the key.
Speaker 4: The representing six million Jews that were killed in the Holocaust.
Speaker 4: The regime in Iran has sworn to wipe out the
Speaker 4: Jewish people, to wipe out the state of Israel, and
Speaker 4: ultimately to get to the United States and do damage
Speaker 4: there because they're feverishly working on intercontinental ballistic missiles, which
Speaker 4: they are very close to having. So their intentions are clear.
Speaker 4: And you do not defeat Nazis by negotiating with them.
Speaker 4: That is not how you defeat them. There is such
Speaker 4: a thing in this world as good or good and evil. Bill,
Speaker 4: And you know, I know a lot of those on
Speaker 4: the far left don't want us to believe in good
Speaker 4: and evil anymore, it sounds kind of primitive. Well, there
Speaker 4: is such a thing as good and evil, and we
Speaker 4: need to defeat the evil. We need to do good
Speaker 4: in this world. That is our task in this world.
Speaker 4: And unfortunately, when there are those who are coming up
Speaker 4: to kill you and they and they say so clearly,
Speaker 4: and they say so with their act, also, you have
Speaker 4: to stand up and you have to fight back, and
Speaker 4: you have to do it in the right way so
Speaker 4: you win.
Speaker 1: So the point many are making that this Monday afternoon
Speaker 1: is number one. Peace is always desirable. Of course, most
Speaker 1: of the Iranian people are a great people, the Persian Empire, etc.
Speaker 2: It's the leadership which is the problem.
Speaker 1: And if this war ends with the Iatola still in
Speaker 1: charge and maybe they're set back their nuclear capabilities one
Speaker 1: or two years, is that a victory.
Speaker 4: No, clearly not. And the regime must be taken down
Speaker 4: and their nuclear program must be taken down and destroyed
Speaker 4: and wiped out and removed. And you know, it's kind
Speaker 4: of like in Libya. You know, Libya was on his
Speaker 4: way to having nuclear weapons, and they agreed to destroy
Speaker 4: the whole program and they didn't. It was verified and
Speaker 4: since then there hasn't been any problem with Libya. But
Speaker 4: the Iranians have been fighting this all the way. They
Speaker 4: promised to do so from the rise of what they
Speaker 4: called the Islamic Revolution back in nineteen seventy nine, and
Speaker 4: they promised to export the Islamic Revolution around the world.
Speaker 4: They have been doing that. That's why Israel is fighting
Speaker 4: a war on eight different fronts, and God willing, we
Speaker 4: will be successful. And you know, like it or not,
Speaker 4: we're fighting the battle on behalf of the entire free world,
Speaker 4: even though much of the free world doesn't even understand
Speaker 4: it or appreciate it.
Speaker 1: David Rubin Lyin from Israel. As far as unrelated, A
Speaker 1: related matter is what's happening in Gaza. I heard the
Speaker 1: radical left on college campuses marching around, including a No
Speaker 1: King's Day which was on Saturday, with the Palestinian flag
Speaker 1: that they can you address yourself to this issue? Are
Speaker 1: the Israelis committing genocide against the Palestinian people?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: I know the but will you tell you?
Speaker 1: Will you tell those who are not ill informed why
Speaker 1: this is not a genocide by Israel against Gaza.
Speaker 4: If anyone wanted to see what a genocide is, they
Speaker 4: should They should take a look at the films from
Speaker 4: October seventh, the actual film footage, and then they will
Speaker 4: understand what an attempted genocide is. Uh. You know, we
Speaker 4: we have lived long enough and and have had a
Speaker 4: history that has included slavery and and the slaughter of
Speaker 4: our people in the millions, and I think we understand
Speaker 4: a little better than those naive leftists fighting out there
Speaker 4: in the streets of America what genocide is. If you
Speaker 4: look at the riots in Los Angeles, what did you
Speaker 4: see there? So the burning of American flags and the
Speaker 4: waving of Mexican and Palestinian flags. You know it's not
Speaker 4: an accident. The far left is in collusion with the
Speaker 4: radical Muslims, and even though they believe ultimately in totally
Speaker 4: different things, they both want to bring down the United
Speaker 4: States as a Judeo Christian civilization. Those of us in
Speaker 4: Israel understand that, and we are prepared to do the
Speaker 4: good fight over here if we have to. And that's
Speaker 4: what we're doing, and we are going to win. We
Speaker 4: are going to emerge victorious, and hopefully that evil that
Speaker 4: is the regime in Iran will be wiped out, as
Speaker 4: well as their capability to create nuclear bombs and use
Speaker 4: it against the world. Bill, if I could just say
Speaker 4: one thing. I heard you introduce me as the founder
Speaker 4: of the Shiloh Israel Children's Fund. And I know that
Speaker 4: many of your listeners do want to back Israel in
Speaker 4: some way, and I want to give them a concrete
Speaker 4: way to do so, which is to send support to
Speaker 4: the Shiloh Israel Children's Fund. We're helping the terror victim
Speaker 4: children in Israel. We have a vast array of programs
Speaker 4: for those terror victim children and and and the trauma
Speaker 4: is through the roof. So all they have to do
Speaker 4: is go to our website, which is Israel Children dot org.
Speaker 4: It's that simple, Israel Children dot org. They can find
Speaker 4: out more about what we're doing for the terror victim children.
Speaker 4: That's the on the on the local scale of of
Speaker 4: helping the children. And because you can't ignore the home
Speaker 4: front fighting a war like.
Speaker 1: This, that's a great point on Israel Children dot org
Speaker 1: is of fund. Lastly, I could not imagine the hooties
Speaker 1: in Yemen, which are dead said on killing on behalf
Speaker 1: of Iran, not just Jews and Christians, but also Saudi
Speaker 1: Arabia for example. I could not imagine them delivering a
Speaker 1: ballistic missile technology from the back of their camels into
Speaker 1: Israel unless fully supported by Iran, which is ahead of
Speaker 1: the snake. And Iran has never been in a more
Speaker 1: inferior position than today because of what happened in Jordan,
Speaker 1: what happened of course in Lebanon, what's going on in Gaza.
Speaker 1: Egypt is standing down. And I'm told by a US
Speaker 1: senator when the President went to Saudi Arabia about two
Speaker 1: weeks ago right now you know, he's in Canada, that
Speaker 1: he received the taskit approval of Mbs Mama Ben Salmon,
Speaker 1: the leader of Saudi Arabia, to take down the great
Speaker 1: head of the snake that he called the Adolph Hitler
Speaker 1: of the Middle East. And let's face that this branch
Speaker 1: of Islam has killed as more or more Islamic Muslims
Speaker 1: and anything else. It's a murderous death cult in which
Speaker 1: they want to die. They don't want to live, they
Speaker 1: want to die, and they want to die with Jiha
Speaker 1: to get their seventy two versions ready in heaven for
Speaker 1: them when they arrive. And I think Israel are kind
Speaker 1: of getting together the meeting, and this cannot end with
Speaker 1: peace of peace means that Saudi Arabia and the US
Speaker 1: and Israel together has the Eye Toll is still in
Speaker 1: charge of Iran, and they still have the capability of
Speaker 1: developing nuclear weapon technology and the next year or two
Speaker 1: or three, last question, David Rubin, would that be a
Speaker 1: victory if somehow peace comes, the Eye Toll is still
Speaker 1: in charge, the Iranian people are still enslaved by the
Speaker 1: leadership in Tehran and they still have a year or
Speaker 1: two or three away from missile technology.
Speaker 2: Would that be a victory.
Speaker 4: It's not a victory, and it's not peace. You know,
Speaker 4: we long go lost the definition of peace. Peace is
Speaker 4: not when you cave in to terrorists. Peace is not
Speaker 4: when you cave in to evil people. Peace is when
Speaker 4: you have an arrangement whereby you respect them and they
Speaker 4: respect you, and you live your life and without interfering
Speaker 4: with them, they live their life without interfering with you.
Speaker 4: That's not what we've had in the Middle East in
Speaker 4: the past one hundred plus years.
Speaker 2: And you know, and.
Speaker 4: You know Israel, you know where people that wants peace.
Speaker 4: And we always say that if our enemies would put
Speaker 4: down their weapons, they would be peace in the Middle East.
Speaker 4: If Israel would put down its weapons, then there would
Speaker 4: be eternal war and no Israel. So that so look,
Speaker 4: we're doing what we have to do.
Speaker 1: Bill, David reuben God bless you, Shiloh, former mayor, Israel
Speaker 1: Children's Fund founder, Israeli Children's Fund dot org is the website.
Speaker 1: Your fight today is our fight tomorrow. We've been fighting
Speaker 1: this ourselves in America. Nine to eleven was part of that.
Speaker 1: Iraq was part of that. Afghanistan is part of that.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, this ideology cannot stand. You cannot be
Speaker 1: on the outskirts of Berlin in nineteen forty five and say,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's go back home, Hitler. You stay
Speaker 1: in charge of Berlin and you're years away from getting
Speaker 1: a nuclear missiles. That's okay. That's not the way the
Speaker 1: world works. And if Israel is disarmed, Israel is destroyed,
Speaker 1: and if Israel is strong, the rest of the Middle
Speaker 1: East is in peace. David Reubin, once again, thanks for
Speaker 1: coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. David, you're a great
Speaker 1: American and a great Israeli. Thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Bill. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: God bless you all.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more and if a line becomes available
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Speaker 6: He swings, sends a fly ball left field, hit well,
Speaker 6: going back to left fielder.
Speaker 2: He can't get it. It's gone an opposite field to
Speaker 2: run black for Elie.
Speaker 6: Dyala Cruz a line drive right over Riley Green and
Speaker 6: then right over the left field wall. He's now homered
Speaker 6: in four straight games. That is his sixteenth home run
Speaker 6: of the year.
Speaker 1: Hell, hell, hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 2: God like man.
Speaker 1: I'm happy that Rock is here because the last team
Speaker 1: that came in this year was the Saint Axe lacrosse team.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that cultural misappropriation to take an Indian sport and.
Speaker 2: To use that to win the state title? All I'll
Speaker 2: be named the Bombers. Yeah, I think so? Is that
Speaker 2: cultural misappropriate?
Speaker 7: I think it is, sure, whatever, But how about that
Speaker 7: squad two years in a row, major state final game lost,
Speaker 7: and then this year boom and you don't congratch the Bombers.
Speaker 2: One of our first questions Friday was do you do
Speaker 2: you know who rocky boy. I know, I don't want
Speaker 2: to say anything. One of them said yes, yeah, they said,
Speaker 2: tell him the truth. They did not hang around you
Speaker 2: hang around.
Speaker 7: School and all that stuff. They said, Yeah, I just
Speaker 7: I just go up there and walk around the hall. Yeah,
Speaker 7: still in class I used to be.
Speaker 2: They said, you can tell us the difference between well,
Speaker 2: was a trigonometry and calculating calculus?
Speaker 1: This one kid came up with an answer. He said words,
Speaker 1: I didn't understand any of them.
Speaker 2: You tend a question, gave me the answer. He didn't
Speaker 2: know what it was. We were dumb. Found what was trigonometries? Angles? Right?
Speaker 2: You got in the proportionality thereof and calculus.
Speaker 7: Calculus is the uh the the you know, where you
Speaker 7: find out the value of something by knowing the value
Speaker 7: of two other things.
Speaker 2: I flunked that. I didn't do well.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you're hearing another issue. Second Man reported
Speaker 1: an hour ago that Ted Krawl was on MLB network.
Speaker 2: Nick Krawl Crawl, what's his name? Nick Krawl? Ever heard
Speaker 2: of baseball operations? Ted Crawl?
Speaker 1: I think this guy played golf with But Nick Krawl
Speaker 1: was there talking about Dela Cruz running the long term
Speaker 1: guarantee bonus Layton contract.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what happened. He's doing well, by the way,
Speaker 2: to say the least, I never doubted him. You mean
Speaker 2: you mean Nick Krawl Or he's kind of hit like
Speaker 2: that other guy, a little bit like that number forty
Speaker 2: four used to do a few years ago. You mean ed.
Speaker 2: They're not talking about a commercial either. Now.
Speaker 1: According to my sources in the DR, there's a company
Speaker 1: called Steinberg's Big League Advantage. The loans player's money in
Speaker 1: exchange for a percentage of all their future earning. Gosh, boy,
Speaker 1: if he reaches the major league. The company paid Dela
Speaker 1: Cruz one hundred thousand dollars four years ago when he
Speaker 1: was I guess nineteen.
Speaker 7: When he had no money'ven on a dirt floor of
Speaker 7: a hut somewhere in the deal hurt.
Speaker 2: And now what's that worth? Now they're saying, show me
Speaker 2: the money.
Speaker 1: What if somebody had said to you a saying X
Speaker 1: sign away ten percent of your future earnings.
Speaker 2: Here's one hundred thousand dollars. A big question.
Speaker 7: It's hard because you say, do you find it away?
Speaker 7: Do you bet on yourself? Or do you make your
Speaker 7: current present life a little more manageable. And it's a
Speaker 7: tough call because most you know, I don't know if
Speaker 7: you guys know this, most people don't make it to
Speaker 7: the major leagues. It's already don't know how many hundreds
Speaker 7: of thousands of millions of baseball players playing youth baseball
Speaker 7: right never make it.
Speaker 2: Or league anywhere in the world, anywhere, football, baseball, basketball, anything.
Speaker 1: The company surveys the scenes and pick out ten players
Speaker 1: out of a country and said, let's bet on those ten.
Speaker 2: If one hits, we're right.
Speaker 7: But but they own what ten percent of the next
Speaker 7: contract future earnings because he makes a billion dollars one.
Speaker 2: Hundred million boom. What do you say about that one?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, look, how many players take that deal
Speaker 7: and never make it that they lose money. You could
Speaker 7: say they're praying on a kid who doesn't know any better,
Speaker 7: but I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's it's tough. He took the deal, no one made him. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you, seg What do
Speaker 1: you say, would you take the money at Cole Rain?
Speaker 1: By the way, the wild man tells me he had
Speaker 1: better grades than you had. He was out said, and
Speaker 1: you were at Cole Raine. What he said he was
Speaker 1: a straight C student, which is better than you.
Speaker 2: Uh huh. That made National Honor Society and like a
Speaker 2: force uping my uh gpa up at Cole Rain. Take that,
Speaker 2: wild Man, say that again? Yeah, National Honor Society. You me,
Speaker 2: you have that plaque with you. So do you make
Speaker 2: any National Honor Society at at two point four? You did,
Speaker 2: didn't you wrong? Of course? Thank you, not me two
Speaker 2: point four you're joining wild Man. You didn't apply yourself,
Speaker 2: not at all. I didn't apply myself to law school
Speaker 2: up to that point. I was a numb nut. Now
Speaker 2: look at you.
Speaker 1: Now I'm a derelict. Well, am, I'm a derelict.
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Speaker 1: What's the time table for Dela Cruz? I have it here,
Speaker 1: but what the timetable looking forward? He's signed through twenty
Speaker 1: twenty nine. At the end of twenty twenty nine, it's over,
Speaker 1: but he goes to restricted arbitration year after next and.
Speaker 2: Then who knows what he makes the read sign him now? Yes,
Speaker 2: is a future team comes in a week from today?
Speaker 2: Possibly you mean the Yankees, Bengo. Who else is going
Speaker 2: to afford him? The Dodgers, that's a bit.
Speaker 1: According to Marty Brenneman's good for it's only going to
Speaker 1: go either warrass a billion dollars.
Speaker 7: He's gonna give a He's gonna get a hometown. You know,
Speaker 7: he loves Cincinnati so much. He's gonna stay here for less.
Speaker 2: Ohead some rob. First off, will he on his stutter point?
Speaker 2: We want to say happy birthday to one of the pebbles,
Speaker 2: bron years old today.
Speaker 7: It's a tough dude to ten year olds. He does
Speaker 7: muy thai use it wise all the time. Every night
Speaker 7: in my house. Little brother practice. He practices on his
Speaker 7: little brother.
Speaker 2: Older brother. He practices on him too.
Speaker 1: The big brother beats him up to him. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they just beat each other up, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Just this is Frank Zybell's birthday. Joe Fred love to
Speaker 1: see our gun eye pools and spas. It's hot, hot,
Speaker 1: hot right now, amen to that, Please continue segment. But
Speaker 1: you're not answering the question, what is the question? Do
Speaker 1: anyone know you auld stand next high school? These kids said,
Speaker 1: I never heard.
Speaker 2: Of the guy. He's trying to make you feel every one.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, yes, yeah, And you think anybody deer Park
Speaker 2: would remember you?
Speaker 7: Yes, of course I remember him because he's running around
Speaker 7: cutting nets off every single basketball in that awful back Then, Uh,
Speaker 7: doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: I wish I could get that tape. Reds update. Those
Speaker 2: Reds are off to day will Willing after wedding eight
Speaker 2: of their last eleven. The Reds have the day off today.
Speaker 2: A home stand kicks off tomorrow night against the Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 1: And the best is Marty had me lay down on
Speaker 1: the field at my ballpark in front of the team,
Speaker 1: just put my arms.
Speaker 2: Right, embarrassing the action right.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to great American parks to welcome
Speaker 1: with Sanax High school championship team on the floor.
Speaker 2: Has that happened to you? They're probably gonna probably gonna
Speaker 2: get the lacrosse team down there. I would gas the
Speaker 2: answer is no, no, But deer Park insisted that I
Speaker 2: that I go. How many strings you have to pull me? Pockets?
Speaker 2: You have to line and get that done. Please continue.
Speaker 2: Let's say, uh, let's see.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Sean Casey there, Oh don't reportedly tore his hamstring rounding
Speaker 2: first base, uh the other night against the Savannah Bananas,
Speaker 2: and apparently he needs surgery.
Speaker 1: I did four balls, passed ball in the pretends to run.
Speaker 1: He's got his arms up like a darrelic kind of
Speaker 1: goofy guy running and all of a suddenly hits first.
Speaker 2: I know that feeling. That's right, Seg. That happened to you.
Speaker 2: It looked like a turtle on the field. You go
Speaker 2: to the Banana you didn't go Did you go to
Speaker 2: the Bananas games? Did you go about? We did our
Speaker 2: show straight from there before how that works? Looked like
Speaker 2: opening day? Great Merchandise was like what an hour and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 7: So I'm walking up and I park and I'm walking
Speaker 7: down towards you know, the Holy Girl there, and then
Speaker 7: all the people out in the concourse there and they don't, like,
Speaker 7: I don't know, ten yellow tints set.
Speaker 2: Up and I was like, what is that?
Speaker 7: Like we'll call or something. People have to pick up
Speaker 7: their tickets and that's that's kind of weird. You think
Speaker 7: they be online? No, I learned as I was talking
Speaker 7: to people walking in that was merchandise, like like ten
Speaker 7: different tents lining up for like all the way down
Speaker 7: the road to buy Savannah bananas. Like Swift, they sell
Speaker 7: more merchant. We had the president on our show. What
Speaker 7: was his name, Tyler or something, I don't know. And
Speaker 7: so they started that deal in twenty sixteen. And I said,
Speaker 7: and I told you in twenty sixteen, you'd be selling
Speaker 7: out a major league ballpark two nights in a row,
Speaker 7: selling merchandise out the wazoo.
Speaker 2: Would you believe it? He said, no, No, bananas, Yeah,
Speaker 2: people go bananas.
Speaker 7: He just said, you know, they had like a kind
Speaker 7: of like a minor league ish, you know, kind of
Speaker 7: semi pro team, and he just figured, there's always going
Speaker 7: to be a cat You're never going to get the
Speaker 7: best players. You're never gonna so we got to do
Speaker 7: something to get people do the ballpark. Well, let's have fun.
Speaker 7: They had a they did. That was when that Gangam
Speaker 7: style song was popping there back in twenty sixteen, and
Speaker 7: like some every whatever inding, they would all do the
Speaker 7: dance and people loved it.
Speaker 2: They're like, well, let's do more of that. Guy on
Speaker 2: Steltz bat Battie. Yeah, and he pitched on stilts. He pitched.
Speaker 2: He's got a big strike zone. He's like throwing like
Speaker 2: seventy miles an hour, like the air. Sign them up
Speaker 2: upper worst test seat occupied? Where's when you need him? Sign?
Speaker 2: Ted Crawl is my seven irons. That was good saying
Speaker 2: Nick Krawl. You know Ted Crawl is you're You're the
Speaker 2: golf club. You know Ted Crawl.
Speaker 1: He's a famous golfer. He's sold golf.
Speaker 2: Now those golfers, what about J. J. Spahn?
Speaker 3: They know him?
Speaker 2: What about the guy hit the sixty four foot put?
Speaker 2: What about j Peters? Didn't tell you about that, did you?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: What happened to the big you? Marty Marty?
Speaker 1: Judge Marty had a conflict. So we got Dennis on
Speaker 1: another vacation. In the variation, he had to go to Switzerland.
Speaker 1: You got me and Joe against Dennis. Theaters and the
Speaker 1: buzzer eaters, and Joe shall always say it's not the best.
Speaker 1: But on the eighteenth hole overnook people lined up, Harry Alexander,
Speaker 1: how to get the videotape? Joe hits a drive down
Speaker 1: the middle, hit one drive all day and play it's
Speaker 1: the next one about thirty feet from the hole. We
Speaker 1: go up there and Joe rolls in the putt for
Speaker 1: a three birdie, just like JJ spawn net two, and
Speaker 1: the boys collapsed.
Speaker 2: Apparently, apparently JJ spawn saw that video in Saturday night
Speaker 2: and used it for yesterday to win the open.
Speaker 1: At sixty four, Joe's put a little bit uphill, a
Speaker 1: little bit downhill, broke a little left, broke a little right,
Speaker 1: then came back toward him and then went back the
Speaker 1: other way, and he made the putt for a three
Speaker 1: net two, and the Deeters clan, his brothers collapsed in
Speaker 1: a ball of pity.
Speaker 2: How much money you went? Ten dollars? Nice? I didn't collect.
Speaker 2: I felt bad you did not, you liar? I love
Speaker 2: Thank you. Bengals up they brought to you by good
Speaker 2: spirits and party town. Then what about thirteen location? Gonna
Speaker 2: google him in order the Kentucky Ted Crawl. Let's see,
Speaker 2: ESPN says the Bengals and Ted Hendrickson are back talking.
Speaker 2: Ted Ted Hendrickson was a good golfer two. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: he was. There's Trey hendricks right there there. He is,
Speaker 2: all right, Trey Henderson. What's going on with brother brother?
Speaker 4: Is Netley?
Speaker 2: Their re engaging contract talks, they're gonna pay more money.
Speaker 2: I don't know. What about Stewart, my Stewart saying, don't know.
Speaker 1: There is Ted Crawl, famous golfer, won many PJ events
Speaker 1: and gave his last club to Bill Cunningham. Now a
Speaker 1: radio talk shows there. That's all true, right of course.
Speaker 1: I can't look at my Wikipedia page. I look so bad.
Speaker 2: But how about j J. Spondo bogie five of the
Speaker 2: first six holes he's in the I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: on that course in the he's down by four at
Speaker 2: the turn and turns it on in the back night
Speaker 2: and and gets it done.
Speaker 1: Beats everybody by six drugs in the last nine holes, man,
Speaker 1: including birdings like Joe Eaters birding eighteen for all of
Speaker 1: the marbles collapsing the east water in veins.
Speaker 2: I can't believe Joe isn't here to talk about it. Well,
Speaker 2: he said, he's on the bench. What's he doing? What
Speaker 2: was no idea? Is this one of the like three
Speaker 2: days a month he works two days?
Speaker 3: This is it?
Speaker 1: April sixteenth, today and tomorrow rocks June sixteenth and then
Speaker 1: August sixteenth, and that's it. Then they're off the bench
Speaker 1: until seventh August sixteenth.
Speaker 2: That's the day that the king died. Christmas is a
Speaker 2: week later. The King nineteen seventy seven, The King Elvis
Speaker 2: August sixteenth. George, Oh really Elvis, the King. I was
Speaker 2: there with. I was there with the crof. You were
Speaker 2: in the jibt put Uncle Vestor on hold. He was crying.
Speaker 2: You were there, rough called Uncle Vester. That's unbelieved.
Speaker 1: Tell that story quickly, you and Jim Lebarber when Elvis died.
Speaker 1: Oh he went, I mean it, there's nothing but Elvis
Speaker 1: stuff and hits and him calling people in Memphis and
Speaker 1: putting them on hold, and all of a sudden he said,
Speaker 1: call this number, and who's this?
Speaker 2: He says, Uncle Vester? Guys crying? Everything else? I said,
Speaker 2: you ready to go? Did you?
Speaker 1: Wasn't I wasn't he on gun Smoke with Matt Dillon. No, no,
Speaker 1: Festus that was That was Ted Hendrickson. That was on
Speaker 1: gun Smoke along with Ted kraw.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you never know you signed the deal.
Speaker 1: Would you sign a hundred million dollar deal right now?
Speaker 1: If if you're a Dela Cruise buy out a few
Speaker 1: years keep him here? Would you sign a hundred million
Speaker 1: if you're Dela cruise. He's worthing more than a hundred
Speaker 1: million right now? How about one hundred and ten million?
Speaker 1: Would you take that?
Speaker 7: Rock nor sid hold out to like say said, go
Speaker 7: to the Yankees for a billion a billion.
Speaker 1: I'll believe it when I see it. Well, you got
Speaker 1: we got him in that. We got him until the
Speaker 1: end of twenty nine, correct, So we don't need to
Speaker 1: sign him now. But the price price we get in
Speaker 1: front of it. What about scott Boro they signed the
Speaker 1: Hunter Green and how'd that work out? And then I
Speaker 1: guess they were gonna sign Lodolo after that?
Speaker 2: How about Home or how'd that work out? How about
Speaker 2: By they think they're still paying him.
Speaker 1: You're still paying clown. How about Candelaria? He's fouled a
Speaker 1: ball off his big toe. Now he's called forty five
Speaker 1: million dollars.
Speaker 2: Hitting on the interstate in triple A. Jeez, what's on
Speaker 2: the back? They're winning? They're winning, they're winning.
Speaker 1: Come on, Austin, Austin said they were gonna what's his name,
Speaker 1: Austin Carr?
Speaker 2: Is that his name? Austin Carry almost got down on
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. We weren't gonna win six games in June.
Speaker 2: Now they won six games in the last week. Thank
Speaker 2: you remind me of that way Rock, it's right on
Speaker 2: the gay.
Speaker 7: At three o'clock we have General Bob Dezon, great guest,
Speaker 7: former general. He's going to talk about the war Iran
Speaker 7: Israel conflict.
Speaker 2: What's going on with that.
Speaker 7: Then we have Jeremy Rosenthal and at four o'clock about
Speaker 7: that nut they killed the the Minnesota Yeah, terrible congresspeople.
Speaker 1: It was a trail camera that tripped it. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: person had a trail camera and that came to their
Speaker 1: phones and it looks like that. But derelict.
Speaker 7: Guess what, it's hard to commit a crime or you're
Speaker 7: always on camera between cell phones and you know the
Speaker 7: camera's on the streets, trail camera's.
Speaker 2: Tractive down a nowhere right nowhere. Yeah. I say, if
Speaker 2: you graduate from high school work and don't commit crime.
Speaker 2: Did you tell the Sanks guys that, Yeah, I tell
Speaker 2: you all the time they said. One of them said no,
Speaker 2: not really, say give me out of the student's report.
Speaker 2: In honor of Ted Crawl and Ted Hendrickson.
Speaker 1: Ted Hendrickson, he played wherever they may be defensive end
Speaker 1: for the Raiders, didn't.
Speaker 2: That's right, You're right, I think everybody knows that number
Speaker 2: eighty seven. Oh ahead, that was a tight end. He
Speaker 2: played number eighty seven. What was his name? Defense you're
Speaker 2: thinking of? You're thinking of Casper? Yeah, Dave ded Ghost.
Speaker 2: Don't you know what you're talking about? Don't make a
Speaker 2: full you don't either, Thank God? Will he on this date?
Speaker 2: Tune the sixteenth, nineteen seventy eight, Elvis dies no. Tom
Speaker 2: Seaver was the through his first and only no hitter
Speaker 2: of his career Riverfront Stadium against the Saint Louis Cardinals.
Speaker 2: With the Reds won at four to nothing, We leave
Speaker 2: you with the immortal words of the stood report.
Speaker 6: Pay off pitch to Riley Green, Riley Gert, strike three,
Speaker 6: called God him looking back door, slider came back, caught
Speaker 6: the outside corner, Green caughttching and doesn't like it, and
Speaker 6: that's it.
Speaker 2: Red's win it. Final score eight to four.
Speaker 6: The Reds take the series from the Tigers and they
Speaker 6: head home after a four and two six game road trip.
Speaker 1: Is Riley Green related to Riley Gert? They related?
Speaker 2: Yeah. On seven hundred ww