WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.919 Bill cunning into Great American all health breaking, loose, chaos 2 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:07.200 and confusion is everywhere. Had riots over the week, and 3 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:09.960 of course with this so called note kings, riots and 4 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:13.000 the protests would happen in the state of Oregon is 5 00:00:13.039 --> 00:00:17.600 really unbelievable. Portland, for example, what happened in La You 6 00:00:17.640 --> 00:00:20.879 have the La County Sheriff say that molotov cocktails are thrown, 7 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:24.879 dozens of officers have been injured, blocks of concrete have 8 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:29.079 been pitched. You have a commercial grade fireworks being distributed 9 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:32.759 among the police to hurt and injure them. You have 10 00:00:32.840 --> 00:00:35.320 no commerce happening in Los Angeles. I would think, I 11 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:37.640 don't know how you have a worse mare than Karen 12 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:40.520 Bass or a worst governor. But everywhere I look there's 13 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:44.320 nothing but chaos plus and the next few days the 14 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:46.600 President is going to be in the Rocky Mountains Canadian 15 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:49.799 side to talk to some of the G seven leaders 16 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:55.159 about that. It's a situation plus unbelievable. What's happening in Israel, 17 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:57.359 and it goes on and on. It's only been like 18 00:00:57.399 --> 00:00:59.600 two or three days since that erupted, and since then, 19 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:01.759 all of a sudden, the world has changed. Showan you 20 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:04.239 and I now as Congressman Warren Davidson of the great 21 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:07.840 State of Ohio. And there's two congressmen that voted against 22 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:10.799 the Big Beautiful Bill in the House. Both are our 23 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:13.760 guests and I think listeners of mine, that being a 24 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:17.280 Thomas Massey and Warren Davidson and Congressman welcome again to 25 00:01:17.319 --> 00:01:19.120 the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, to go 26 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:21.920 back a couple of weeks, it was a one vote plus. 27 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:24.760 What caused you to vote no on the Big Beautiful 28 00:01:24.760 --> 00:01:26.480 Bill about ten days or two weeks ago? 29 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:28.879 Yeah, good question. 30 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:33.719 It spends more money than it creates bigger deficits than 31 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:36.640 we would have if we didn't pass the Big Beautiful Bill, 32 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:38.319 and it doesn't you know. 33 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:40.760 Look, you don't want to go by the GAO score. 34 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:41.519 I mean, there's been a. 35 00:01:41.519 --> 00:01:44.040 Lot of criticism of that that comes out and says 36 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:47.319 it costs like five trillion dollars over ten years. GAO 37 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:50.799 doesn't give credit for you know, the growth rate, doesn't 38 00:01:50.840 --> 00:01:54.599 give credit for tariffs. Penn Wharton, which Wharton School of 39 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:58.519 Business usually is one that people will look at that says, oh, 40 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:02.200 we give good scores there and everything, and that says 41 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:03.359 it still grows the deaths. 42 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:04.359 It's even in ten years. 43 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:06.840 But the most optimistic model I could find gives as 44 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:09.759 much credit. It's the one that Speaker Johnson and President 45 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:14.199 Trump and Steven Miller and everybody's highlighting. It does look good, 46 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:17.719 it looks very, very nice. In a ten year timeframe, 47 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:23.360 would grow, would save about one point six trillion dollars 48 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:27.000 if everything went according to plan. But even in those 49 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:31.520 most optimistic scenarios, it doesn't. It grows death sits in 50 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:36.439 the first, you know, in the first this Congress and 51 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:40.879 then the entire presidency, so until twenty twenty nine before 52 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:42.199 it really starts saving money. 53 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:44.439 And the other thing is how much pressure were you 54 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:49.400 under thumbscrews? Were you tortured? Whenever someone says, get me 55 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:52.080 the pliers and get me the blow torch, did the 56 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:54.919 Trumpster and others give you the pliers and the blow torch. 57 00:02:56.199 --> 00:02:56.280 No. 58 00:02:56.479 --> 00:03:00.840 Look, we've had conversations about these bills since you know, November, really, 59 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:03.599 I mean probably really prior to that, but you know, 60 00:03:03.919 --> 00:03:06.400 you know, in an aggressive way. I mean hundreds and 61 00:03:06.439 --> 00:03:09.400 hundreds of hours spent in meetings talking about these bills 62 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:13.680 to get to this point. So no one's surprised by 63 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:16.280 the position I've had, Franken's position. I had, you know, 64 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:19.680 last Congress when when I voted yes for a bill 65 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:23.159 that if if we stuck to the plan, would have 66 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:25.639 spent less money than we did the year before. 67 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:27.280 And that's the criteria. We don't. 68 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:30.680 We don't even talk about passing a balance budget anymore. 69 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:32.759 I'm just like, can we at least turn in the 70 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:35.000 right direction and spend less money than we did the 71 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:38.360 year before, which is a pretty low bar, But we don't. 72 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:40.159 We don't ever put that on the floor. We did 73 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:43.039 pass a plan to do that last Congress, and I 74 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:44.960 sort of had hoped that we could at least agree 75 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:47.199 to do that, especially in light of all the momentum 76 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:50.199 we've built with Doge. So that's been my position is 77 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:53.000 if we've got a plan to spend less than I'm 78 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:56.240 for it, and if we don't, then you know, then 79 00:03:56.520 --> 00:03:58.360 you know, we'll see what we can do. And so 80 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:01.919 go back to March. I was, you know, into February, 81 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:05.240 early March, we passed essentially the plan to start putting 82 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:09.120 this reconciliation bill together, and we basically decided we're going 83 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:11.840 to go with one big, beautiful bill versus the two 84 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:15.240 step approach. I favored the two step approach for what 85 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:18.360 it's worth, but you know, ultimately the kind of moderates 86 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:21.439 push to stick everybody together and put one big, beautiful bill, 87 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:24.839 and the danger in that is usually it's worse on spending. 88 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:27.120 That's how why they do on TheBus bills is you know, 89 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:29.319 the usually the way you get the votes is you 90 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:32.199 just agree to spend more, and that's exactly what they did. 91 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:35.879 They so they turned towards the left and they counted 92 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:40.240 on holding everybody they could from the right onto the 93 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:41.279 big beautiful bill. 94 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:43.439 And that's where you've lost votes. 95 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:46.800 I mean, you know, me, Massy Andy Harris voted present, 96 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:48.879 but it's because people didn't really want to take it. 97 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:51.319 And that's kind of where I was in at the end. 98 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:53.759 Of February and March, where I was the last person 99 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:56.639 to get DS and the Speaker assured me that he 100 00:04:56.639 --> 00:04:58.360 would not put a bill on the floor that didn't 101 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:01.480 save at least one point six trained one point five 102 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:05.519 trillion dollars in a ten year CBO score technically doesn't 103 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:07.439 do it with CBO, but you can find a model 104 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:10.439 that does it. But we talked about this Congress, and 105 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:13.959 that's really the crux of it, Willie is, you know, 106 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:16.319 the only Congress we control is the one we're in, right, 107 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:18.759 So it's easy to promise some future Congress is going 108 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:21.800 to save money, but promises somebody else is going to 109 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:25.519 save money doesn't save money. And so while there's lots 110 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:27.839 of things that we could do, I've given almost two 111 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:32.079 trillion dollars worth of ideas that you could cut that 112 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:37.360 would accelerate the you know, this model so that this 113 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:39.879 Congress or at least this presidency. And that's where I relented. 114 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:43.079 I said, Okay, let's say that Trump would be willing 115 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:47.439 to veto a bad spending bill. We don't necessarily know 116 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.000 who's going to win in the midterms, but I would 117 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:51.560 be willing to vote for it as long as it 118 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:55.120 would save money by the time President Trump's out of 119 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:58.680 office in twenty twenty nine. And you know, even the 120 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:01.240 best model that they can come up with, it doesn't 121 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:04.639 do that. And so we wanted to So this is 122 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:07.759 a long part of the story here, but again, hours 123 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:10.959 and hours and hours of these conversations, ultimately we're able 124 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:12.959 to get it out of the House, but still have 125 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:15.800 you know, no votes from the conservative side of this. 126 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:19.480 The less spend less money side tease it up to 127 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:22.319 get to the Senate, and that's where Rick Scott, Ron 128 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:26.000 Johnson and Mike Lee are pushing it. And look, Thomas 129 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:29.480 Massey and Ran Paul are kind of in their own place. 130 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:33.040 Whether they're movable or not, as you know, to be determined, 131 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:36.360 But the other three senators are there. Rick Scott's been 132 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:39.040 hosting dinners with conservatives from the House and Senate for 133 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:42.360 a couple of years now. So we spent lots of 134 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:45.480 hours talking amongst Conservas in the House and Senate and 135 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:49.560 frankly with the administration and Susie Wiles and team there 136 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:53.560 she's chief staff, on how to keep this bill from 137 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:56.120 becoming just another giant on the bus. 138 00:06:56.680 --> 00:06:59.319 No matter what is it, you know the numbers, I 139 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.680 assume the big beautiful Bill passes. 140 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:04.519 Is it true? Right now? 141 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:09.480 The accumulated debt is about thirty seven trillion, and over 142 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:12.759 the next ten years, let's forget about ten years. Over 143 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:16.240 the next five years, under the plan of the Big BB, 144 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:20.199 there's going to be ten trillion dollars more borrowing. So 145 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:22.480 by the time Trump leaves office, there will be forty 146 00:07:22.519 --> 00:07:25.959 seven trillion owed by our kids and grand Because is 147 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:27.439 that approximately correct. 148 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:30.720 Yeah, I mean directionally, we're having you know, two trillion 149 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:33.839 dollar death sits right now. And unfortunately, under this bill 150 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:38.360 during Trump's presidency, in the most optimistic scenario, it still 151 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:41.040 grows those depths that's beyond the two trillion, so it 152 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:43.040 makes them even worse for. 153 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:44.279 The next two or three years. 154 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:48.160 That's that's you know, that's a terrible situation for the 155 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:50.120 depth sit and when you go to the ten year score, 156 00:07:50.199 --> 00:07:52.199 when they say in the optimistic if you stick to 157 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:56.079 the plan, we save one point six trillion dollars. This 158 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:59.079 bill would raise a debt debt limit by four to 159 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:01.519 five trillion, depends on the House version or the Senate version, 160 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.800 whichever one becomes final four or five trillion dollars. But 161 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:08.040 the reality is you're going to grow debt by like 162 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:10.720 twenty two trillion dollars by then, so you're talking fifty 163 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:14.079 trillion dollars worth of debt by the time you get 164 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:17.199 the ten year score. So I mean this starts eating 165 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:19.439 up our GDP. I mean, it's a huge percentage of 166 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:21.920 our GDP. And the last time that we had this 167 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:24.319 much debt, it was the end of World War Two. 168 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:27.000 But everybody knew we had to spend less money. Right now, 169 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:30.439 almost nobody's talking about spending less money. And that's sort 170 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:32.399 of where Elon Musk, you know, it is like, look, 171 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:35.080 it kind of works in the opposite direction. Why did 172 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:37.240 I want to go do dose was so we could 173 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:41.080 spend less money, And this bill does just the opposite 174 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:43.600 of that. It's a big setback, and you know, he's 175 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:46.200 right to be upset about that, and you know, of 176 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:47.559 course we do want to find a way to get 177 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:47.919 it done. 178 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:51.720 Congress and Warren Davidson. One great part about this bill 179 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:55.519 is the continuation of tax cuts and the idea that 180 00:08:55.559 --> 00:08:59.440 if nothing happens, this will destroy the Trump legacy. And secondly, 181 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:02.039 there'll be huge tax increase on the American people. 182 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:03.279 What do you say about that one? 183 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:06.960 Well, I think, look, no one wants that. We know 184 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:09.000 we're going to have to deal with the taxes. I 185 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.799 don't whether it's in this big, beautiful bill or in 186 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:14.279 a broken apart a series of things. I mean, there's 187 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:16.960 enough votes to change the tax code. I mean the 188 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:19.320 reality is that, you know, the Senate passed the no 189 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:22.240 tax on tips provision that President Trump want and as 190 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:25.279 a standalone measure kind of approved the point one hundred 191 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:27.879 to Zerra. If you look at some of these provisions 192 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:29.799 in the tax code, you know there are Democrats who 193 00:09:29.799 --> 00:09:32.039 would vote for it. We could pass them with sixty votes. 194 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:34.759 You don't even need very many Democrats to do that. 195 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:37.200 You could do those in standalone bills. And then the 196 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:39.480 last thing is it's not like you only get like 197 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:43.679 one giant reconciliation bill per year. The Democrats did the 198 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:47.000 same plan when they passed the American Rescue Plan and 199 00:09:47.039 --> 00:09:51.679 when they passed the you know, Inflation Reduction Actor is 200 00:09:51.720 --> 00:09:55.799 sort of green new deal, and they're blending what's traditionally 201 00:09:55.879 --> 00:09:59.320 mandatory spending and discretionary spending, but in their case, they 202 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:03.080 just want to spend more money. Bernie Sanders liked it 203 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:05.720 so much when he was the Democrat chair of the 204 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:08.720 Senate Budget Committee. He said, is there any limit to 205 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:11.639 how we can do this? And the Senate Parliamentarium said no, 206 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:13.679 you can do this as often as you want. So 207 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:15.240 it's not like you can only do it like once 208 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:18.039 per year you're limited to it. So those why it's 209 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:20.720 kind of crazy to not do two bills instead of one, 210 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:23.960 because you have a clear consensus on a lot of things. 211 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:27.039 Why did they want one big, beautiful bill. Well, because 212 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:29.320 the moderates from places like New York and New Jersey 213 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:32.759 and California wanted this state and local tax deduction and 214 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:34.879 they knew that was their leverage to force it to 215 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:37.759 be as big as possible. And it's a shame that 216 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:38.440 we gave into that. 217 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:42.840 Well, at this point, Congressman, I would say this, the 218 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:46.240 tax cuts have got to be continued, and secondly, somehow 219 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:48.720 the kcamberlated debt has got to come down. If it 220 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:50.639 doesn't happen, now, I've said this many times in talk 221 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:54.519 radio for the last several decades, if it doesn't happen, Now, wait, 222 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:57.799 guys like you and Ran Paul and John fun and 223 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:01.720 President Trump and what's going on. If it doesn't happen now, 224 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:04.799 it's not gonna happen because if this group can't get 225 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:08.399 it done, the deficit is just going to continue yearly 226 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:10.919 to go up two trillion, three trillion. And secondly, the 227 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:13.519 accumulated that's gonna be wild. So if it doesn't happen, 228 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:15.799 now we're screwed, blue tattooed and barbecue. 229 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:17.679 Yeah, I mean that's it. 230 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:19.440 You look at all the momentum we had coming off 231 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:23.200 of doze and the election, and look, you shouldn't have 232 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:26.360 to fund the Green New Deal, and you know, tax 233 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:29.519 breaks for you know, wealthy people in New York to 234 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:31.799 be able to secure our borders. So there are things 235 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:34.440 in there that we like and agree. And if you 236 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:37.799 cut taxes, it makes sense. You can grow the economy 237 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:39.919 to some extent and bring in a little more tax revenue. 238 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:42.480 You can bring tariffs in and bring in you know, 239 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:46.519 significant revenue from tariffs. But you can't do that and 240 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:48.919 spend money and cut taxes and not have to raise 241 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:52.879 the debt limit. And eventually, if all this stuff comes together, 242 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:54.840 the reason it starts looking good in the out years 243 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:58.360 is they eventually get around to turning off major chunks 244 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.360 of the Green New Deal. They eventually around to saying, look, 245 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:04.639 if you're able bodied working as adult work, you gotta 246 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:05.519 go to work work. 247 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:07.480 But who would help a friend in need out. 248 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:09.200 And say, well, hey, buddy, I mean I'll help you 249 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:11.000 out for now, but by the end of twenty twenty 250 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:13.879 seven you got to get a job. Why does it 251 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:16.519 mean to do the same thing when the government does 252 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:18.200 the same thing that you and I would do for 253 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:19.159 a friends and family. 254 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:24.519 The idea that illegal immigrants should be getting medicaid something 255 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:27.320 like one point three million or so, plus another four 256 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:29.879 point six million or able body to adults that refuse 257 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:31.840 to work. We have only a few minutes remaining. I 258 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:33.639 want to get your take on what's happening in Israel. 259 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:36.200 I understand from off the air the Congress is planning 260 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:38.840 on a little bit of a trip next week to 261 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:41.840 Israel that may not occur. I see this as a 262 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:45.679 golden opportunity in which the Gulf States want Iran to 263 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:48.639 be taken down completely. We use four or five Muslim 264 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.120 countries Israel did to fly over their F fifteen's and 265 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:56.240 to bomb and take care of Iran the most they 266 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:59.480 can give me. Warren Davidson's position on what's happening now, 267 00:12:59.679 --> 00:13:02.000 this go on for next week or ten days, God 268 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:04.759 knows how long. What should be done, what could be done, 269 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:07.000 what must be done with this side is of evil 270 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:08.480 in the modern world, that being Iran. 271 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:12.840 Look, Iran has clearly been the destabilizing force in the 272 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:16.360 Middle East, and they've funded proxy wars that have targeted 273 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:19.000 you know, Israel. I mean, how did homask get the 274 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:22.480 money and do the effort to do the ten to 275 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:23.840 seven massacre in Israel. 276 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:26.480 Well, it's heavily Iran. And this is why it was 277 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:27.279 so foolish. 278 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:30.799 What the Biden administration and frankly previously the Obama administration 279 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:34.759 did was to you know, negotiate with Iran, give them cash. 280 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:38.039 And Iran with cash is about as predictable as gravity. 281 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:40.679 They're going to use it to attack Israel. So look, 282 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:44.720 they've had essentially a proxy war going on between Iran 283 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:47.240 and Israel and an occasional flare up into a direct 284 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:51.039 conflict between the two countries. And I get friends in Israel, 285 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:52.879 I mean, just pull it on a personal level. I've 286 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:55.559 got friends in Israel. I wish them safety and success. 287 00:13:55.600 --> 00:13:57.639 I got no friends in Iran. I mean, I think 288 00:13:57.639 --> 00:13:59.559 there are lots of good Iranian people who've got an 289 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:03.120 evil govern and they do evil things. So you know, 290 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:06.639 I hope Israel prevails, but I do think it's not 291 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:09.399 our war to fight or our war to fund. And 292 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:12.159 I think Israel has historically said we're fine fighting our 293 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:16.000 own wars. The trouble is is now everybody, you know, 294 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:19.080 the warmongers out there, they look for every chance they 295 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:21.879 can to get to get into a bigger, broader war, 296 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:24.480 and frankly, some of my colleagues in the House, and 297 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:26.519 a handful of Senators I've talked to, are done near 298 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:29.000 giddy about the prospect of getting us into a bigger war, 299 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:33.200 whether it's with I ran with Russia in Ukraine or 300 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:33.879 somewhere else. 301 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:35.000 And they haven't found one. 302 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:38.360 They don't like no at this point, and I would 303 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:41.039 give them all the bunker buster bombs. They need to 304 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:43.440 do everything they can do. Tell the Iranian people. And 305 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:46.600 I thought Netzanyahu was great the other day the other 306 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:48.720 night when he said, look, it's time for the Iranian 307 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:51.799 people to arise. Sirih was going to be there forever 308 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:54.279 Lebanon was going to be there forever has belind of Moss. 309 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:56.960 Let's face it, the policies of Joe Biden fun to 310 00:14:57.120 --> 00:15:00.399 terror all over the world, especially by giving the Onians 311 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:03.440 billions of dollars, and Obama had palettes of cash. They 312 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:05.919 used that cash not to uplift their own people. They 313 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:08.399 used it to kill Jews, kill Americans wherever they might 314 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:12.720 be located. And funding Hesbela hamas Boca Ram, they funded 315 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:15.120 the Hoodies. They did everything they can and now we 316 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:18.080 have we have the go ahead to assist Israel by 317 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.279 Muslim states, who wants the whole thing to be over 318 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:22.720 and that's the way it ought to be. Well, Congressman, 319 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:24.440 we got to go. I know, in the next few 320 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:27.360 weeks before July fourth, you're gonna have your the blow 321 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:29.799 torch and the pliers are gonna come out. You're gonna 322 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:31.960 have to make a big decision and it'll be based 323 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:35.399 upon what that bill looks like. But Warren Davidson, once again, 324 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:38.440 thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Warren, 325 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:40.080 you're a great American. Thank you very much. 326 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:41.600 Yeah, you too. 327 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:43.840 And another great highlight was Army's birthday. 328 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:46.320 What a great event. How about that American? How about that? 329 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:50.000 How about you were you were a ranger, you went 330 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:54.480 to West Point. The juxtaposition of Donald Trump and the 331 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:58.519 soldiers with the American flag marching down Pennsylvania Avenue, and 332 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:01.320 compare that to what happened in Portland, what happened in Chicago, 333 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:04.360 what happened in Austin, what happened in La what happened 334 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:09.120 to San Francisco was unbelievable. The split screen only MSNBC 335 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:12.480 did not like the American Parade on the two hundred 336 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:15.159 and fiftieth anniversary of the Army's founding, of which you 337 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:18.639 are a proud member. But once again, Warren Davidson, thank 338 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:19.200 you very much. 339 00:16:20.039 --> 00:16:20.879 Yeah, yeah, thank you. 340 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:23.000 I mean Sarah Hookabe Sanadors had it right, you know, 341 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:25.720 normal and crazy, and it was definitely on display during 342 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:26.440 that parade. 343 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:28.320 Normal people were happy about it. 344 00:16:28.440 --> 00:16:30.279 God bless you. I'm normal and sir are you. But 345 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:32.759 thank you for your service. Thank you very much. Let's 346 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:37.320 continue with more. Bill Cunningham on seven hundred WLW. 347 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:44.120 At the music. A little bit of music here, pretty good, 348 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:46.480 good stuff. A little more. 349 00:16:46.600 --> 00:16:52.320 Please tell us the story of the sailor, shall we say, 350 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:56.720 a aport and his love for a bartender or server 351 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:58.039 was unbridled. 352 00:16:58.600 --> 00:16:59.679 Let's continue with more. 353 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:01.960 After one o'clock today, I'm going to have on the 354 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:05.079 speaker of the House of Ohio and then Matt Huffman's 355 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:07.640 going to be here. There's an article in the Inquiry 356 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:11.319 about raising the cigarette tax, and there's another article about 357 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:14.960 a three percent tax on game gambling, and there's another 358 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:18.119 one about whether to use unclaimed funds, whatever it might be, 359 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.079 to pay for the stadiums or bonding. And I'm going 360 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:25.000 to ask Matt Huffman. He's the man, he was President 361 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:27.759 of the Senate in Columbus. Now he's Speaker of the House. 362 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:30.599 Miss Speaker is Matt Huffman from Lima, the home of 363 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:34.519 Leonard Rush, and God rest his soul, and we're going 364 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:37.440 to get from him. And I've seen some reports from 365 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:40.079 him that the Republicans in the House and the Senate 366 00:17:40.119 --> 00:17:42.559 that he controls from an iron grip, will not approve 367 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:46.559 any increase in taxes at all, whether cigarette tax or 368 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:50.279 whether it's a bonding fund of six hundred million dollars. 369 00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:53.200 That's not too popular right now either. And the one 370 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:55.160 coming up along the side, I think is going to 371 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:58.279 be the unclaimed funds. Put his statut limitations on it 372 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:02.599 and maybe maybe about ten years. And there's literally billions 373 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:05.400 of dollars in unclaimed funds in the last one hundred years. 374 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:09.279 That's their ad infinitum, and that's really our money generally, 375 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:11.079 but they're unclaims of what do you do with it? 376 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:15.720 And none of these remedies are particularly popular. But one 377 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:19.079 thing he said repeatedly is he's not in favor of 378 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:23.279 increasing taxes because if he increases cigarette tax, Covington's going 379 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:26.119 to get real busy. If you increase tax on liquor. 380 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:29.079 Then if you're in Toledo, Michigan's going to get real busy. 381 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:33.119 If you increase taxes on marrijajuana, the surrounding states is 382 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:37.160 going to get real busy. Pennsylvania, Michigan, Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia. 383 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:40.119 Ohio's well positioned to have those who use those products 384 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:42.799 to simply leave. You know what I'm saying, And so 385 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:44.480 I'm pretty sure he's going to say none of those 386 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:47.240 things are going to fly. Despite the fact that Senate 387 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:50.799 bill gave the ability of Hamley County commissioners to increase 388 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:54.880 this so called cigarette tax, the Republicans have said repeatedly 389 00:18:54.960 --> 00:18:58.240 that will not happen. And by the way, was today 390 00:18:58.319 --> 00:19:01.839 June sixteenth. Today the bill must be signed by the 391 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:06.079 governor negotiats, and the negotiations are still underway. Plus you 392 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:07.759 have the issue of getting rid of all the Hamley 393 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:11.440 County Coroner's office, et cetera. Doctor Somarco I think has 394 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:15.400 met with Matt Huffman, and not every corner's office in 395 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.480 Ohio is run like the ones in southwest Ohio. 396 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:19.559 So we'll see. 397 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:22.759 I'm gonna ask him that question too, But until then, 398 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:28.400 it's with deep sadness that a young man, relatively young 399 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:32.640 man named Patrick Herringer, forty six years old, was murdered 400 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:37.200 in his home by Mordecai Black, who completed a nine 401 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:39.839