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specifically recapping the BYU U n C exhibition game. What
we learned, what we liked, what we disliked what we
wanted to see improved upon, and the reality is setting
in that Aj is obviously the real deal and Rob
Wright is very much the real deal. Richie coming into
his own, finding his spacing, finding his spot, finding his
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the six foot eight, two hundred and thirty five pound
baller shot collar at a Brazil and Bishop Gorman.
Speaker 4: We got Jonathan Tepinard. What's up JT. I.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm getting my weekly fix of uplifting today.
So it's always a cherishable moment, my friend. I'm the
most wonderful time of the year. Basketball season is happening.
We have a basketball game next week being critical, so
it's exciting.
Speaker 2: It's an exciting time to be a BYU fan.
Speaker 3: It is, indeed, and BYU got a win in an
exhibition game at the Delta Center, and we saw a
lot of good things, a lot of great things from
this BYU basketball roster. I want to break it all
down with you here, the good, the bad, the beautiful,
the ugly. What did you like about the performance of
the seventy eight seventy six win over in North Carolina?
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's you know I again, let's go back to
what I we did.
Speaker 2: No, maybe, and maybe Ron, we can.
Speaker 5: Kind of formulate days as the season goes on.
Speaker 2: I would love for us to do that. But the good,
the bad, and the ugly, or maybe Benny, if you
want to do it in a different way.
Speaker 6: But I think that way it gives us, gives the
fans something for us to kind of.
Speaker 2: Like focus on. I don't know what you guys do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's to me, it's the good, the bad,
the beautiful, the ugly, right like, And I think you
know they it just you want to get the spectrum
because you know, all good coaches are going to highlight
great playmaking, great execution, but also they got to focus
on the things that need to be improved upon it
or to stay consistent and continue winning.
Speaker 4: So I think that's what we focus on.
Speaker 5: Perfect Well, let's just go with the good, the bad,
the beautiful, and the ugly.
Speaker 2: Let's go with the good.
Speaker 5: Richie came back to life now again, you know, it
is blesshem me if I say something negative about Richie.
Speaker 2: But when I mentioned Richie coming back to life.
Speaker 5: What I mean by that is the ball moved a
little bit better. There was a little bit more ball movement,
the flow of the often it was a little bit better.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: There are still a lot of situations where there's a
lot of isolation, a lot of one person going to
work and the other four standing one.
Speaker 2: Because AJ is beyond.
Speaker 5: Special, we're going to talk more about that here in
a minute two. Because rob you know Robert right the
third is able to create uh something out of nothing,
which is really really special. But Richie was much more assertive, right,
I mean, you know, knocked down some shots, wasn't in
a better rhythm, And so I think, you know.
Speaker 2: Richie is a very unselfish guy. That's that's him by nature. Ben.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm privileged that I get to know him.
I've gotten to know him for a very long time.
I know his family, his dad is someone that I
admire a lot. But to me, the good we're gonna
go with Richie, you know, slowly finding his rhythm, which
to me is really good. The bad, I would say, is,
you know, when Keva gets out as of today is
a little bit of a what do we go from here?
Speaker 2: Because Keva is a.
Speaker 5: Monster on on the block and inside the paint reminds
me a little bit Ben of Ben Wallace, if you
remember him from the Pistons right cleaning the board, uh
defensive anchor right the moment he steps out.
Speaker 2: In my view, two things need to happen.
Speaker 5: Either Xavion becomes someone that you can rely consistently, or
you have to bring in Kadeen and or Dominique, you know,
for them to be able to compliment Canar Davis. And
what I mean by that is you're gonna beat him
up by having you know, two or three guys that
you know are they They are built like Charles Abuo
and they are a low block presence like being a
young you know, not necessarily on offense. But then at
that point you're gonna let and you're gonna let Robert write,
or you're gonna let Richie be able to create things
on offense.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: So, to me, the bed is how can we have
a smooth transition going from Keba because if you remember
Ben last year, you would go from Keba to Fos
and that felt incredible, like the team kept going.
Speaker 2: That was the same type of flow.
Speaker 5: Now you were playing in a different perspective, but it
was still headed in that direction.
Speaker 2: And so to me, that's the bed. The beautiful to
me is.
Speaker 5: You know again, I'm a I'm a euro Ball type
of guy, right so past past and past, but it
is difficult for you not to say that the beautiful
is aj.
Speaker 2: De Bonsa right now.
Speaker 5: And the reason why I say that is because it
never an it'sy history. And yesterday I spent about an
hour and a half studying YU basketball history.
Speaker 2: I can tell you things.
Speaker 5: Been data to even when before they joined a weck
in the ninth thirties, when DYU basketball is considered independent,
never by U basketball has had a player like a
Jane DEBONSA jimm Er is the closest thing that comes
to it in terms of you was his offensive proudness,
pro wessness, however you say it in English, what AJ
does as a freshman, as a true freshman, as someone
that was in high school six months ago, it is
unheard of. It is difficult enough for you not to
think AJ is going to be one of the top
two or three picks in a draft.
Speaker 2: It's not. It's not the consensus number one.
Speaker 5: His understanding of the game, his fuel for the game,
his reading of the game, his basketball IQ, the way
he moves, he does a lot of things right that
it is crazy to think he's only eighteen years old.
And so the beautiful will go to AJ and the
ugly I will probably say that Devin Young again, like
is this ugly or is this a sense of urgency?
But the ugly is Kevin is going to have to
figure out his rotations sooner rather than later, or he's
gonna have to let Richie and Robert Wright AJ, Ritchie
and Robert Wright played thirty five minutes a game somehow.
And the reason why I say that is because either
he's going to figure out a way to get you know,
those those break those big three to score sixty or
more points every game, or someone else is going to
have to step up.
Speaker 4: It's that's the truth of the matter. I just came.
Speaker 5: You know, I expected a little bit more out of Alexey.
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing that right now.
Speaker 5: I expected a little bit more of the guys.
Speaker 2: Coming out of the bench. I'm not seeing that now.
So what I mean is either those guys step up.
Speaker 5: Or Kevin Young is going to have to figure out
away for his three big you know, his three main
players on offense to get each twenty plus a game
to make sure that BYU wins basketball games.
Speaker 3: Let's discuss AJ Devonsa for a minute. Eighteen points six
or thirteen from the field, eight rebounds, three blocks, three steals.
He was also really he was nice on the defensive
side of the ball. Obviously, transition scoring was nice. He's
high energy. Would you like to see more playmaking distribution
from AJ or are you more concerned about shooting efficiency,
getting the right shots for AJ, shot creation for himself?
Speaker 4: Which one of your most concerned about right now?
Speaker 5: I what I would probably say, and this is going
to be it's actually neither or neither.
Speaker 2: Ranking you say both boys that you said, I.
Speaker 5: Would actually say, people need to know and learn how
to play with a superstar and dayto no Ben and I,
you know, it's interesting Sen Merriw is having a heck
of an NBA season right now, and you know I was.
I was foolish to say, hey, you know Jimmer, and
I don't mean that, you know, in college making the comparison,
say Jimmer is better than Sam and all of that,
and Sam's having an amazing NBA care sind Merrow has
been able to adapt from being ball dominant and playing
with the ball in college to be a complementary piece
around a superstar, and guys in this scene are going
to have to figure out a way to do that.
One of the reasons why I believe that Mahilo is
getting early looks is because it is less difficult for
Europeans to be the ones to move without the ball,
because that's just part of the game.
Speaker 2: Right You usually get a.
Speaker 5: Customed to play with an American who's going to be
ball dominant, and you move without the ball and you
are a spot up shooter, which is what you know,
what we're seeing right now, Mohilo usually being the first
sub coming in right away.
Speaker 2: But Richie's going to have to do.
Speaker 5: A little bit better job of adapting to play with
AJ and moving without the ball as AJ is attacking.
Speaker 2: It's not an easy team to do, right.
Speaker 5: This is where I think maybe a Brody Kosblowski might
be able to benefit, you know, because Brod he is
a natural a natural born shooter. And Brody actually did
that with his Utah Prospects team, you know, when he
won back to back Adidas three SSB Championships. And so
I would actually say that AJ doing what AJ does.
You're not going to change that AJ plays well without
the ball.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: Case in point, Ben, as you mentioned a couple of
weeks ago before the Nebraska exhibition game, AJ was an
international success when he was playing with Team USA in
Feba and he was rebounding off the ball, he was
attacking the rim for tip for you know for put
back tip dunks, and so to me, it's actually, you know,
none of the two points that you mentioned is creating
better shots a J or AJ shooting better shots. I
think it's actually the people playing with AJ. They need
to space the floor better to give him more space
and to make themselves available for a shot because AJ
is not.
Speaker 2: A selfish player.
Speaker 5: Ben he actually he actually dishes the ball well, but
you have to be in a position to do it.
Speaker 4: I love that breakdown.
Speaker 3: Kiva Cata was a b sixteen points, ten rebounds, eighteen offensive.
He also had two steals and that game winning block.
He was perfect from the charity stripe. And you mentioned
when he's off the court, you know, hey, who's going
to be that guy to fill those shoes? That still
maybe a question mark for this BYU Cougar basketball team.
How many minutes a game can we put Keba? Keep
Keba on the floor as long as he's not getting
into foul trouble.
Speaker 2: Do you think.
Speaker 5: If for him to be effective and maximize his potential,
if you cannot play him more than twenty eight twenty
definitely no more than thirty minutes, that should be the top.
I think if you can play Keba twenty eight twenty
nine minutes. You're going to get him at like a
priesting crystal clear, Like you're got.
Speaker 2: To maximize everything about him, you know.
Speaker 5: And that's because we you know, foul trouble and free
throws at the end of the games. You know, maybe
they do a hacker Keba, right. We don't know, but
to me, at twenty eight twenty nine minutes a game
would be perfect for him.
Speaker 3: I like that break down. Jonathan Tavanari here on ESPN
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things here. I did notice the amount of turnovers. Look
unc is the real deal. They're a top twenty five team.
They may be a Final four team for all we
know right now. BYU forced nineteen turnovers in this game.
And one of the priorities of the offseason was elevating
the defensive playmaking ability, the lengthy athleticism on the perimeter,
and up to this point, it seems like it's been done.
It's been executed. Any concerns in relation to the defensive
efforts thus far, the defensive schemes, the defensive personnel none.
Speaker 5: Defensively, this team has been great. I even thought last
year defensively the team was great. I didn't think there
was an issue with you know, the drive lines or
anything like that. And I think I said as much.
Ron correct me if I'm wrong, But I wasn't negative
or said that was bad after the Nebraska game when
it comes to defense, Am I correct?
Speaker 7: Yes, we had said that if you're gonna play three
point perimeter defense like that, you're not gonna make it
out even the first round of the tournament.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, and that's the thing, right, And so defensively, I
think the team is solid. I think you know, the
way that they're guarding, it's great. Here's the thing, then,
when you have five athletes on the court, and I
do mean athletes in terms of their physical abilities, you're
gonna be okay, right and uh, and that's what by
U has right now. And so but again, Keva, being
on defense is a big thing.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: When Xavion came in, defensively, we kind of dropped a
little bit, and so I think causing them any turnovers,
lots of steels, lots of reflections. I think it's a
great thing, you know how Again, and I'm gonna die
on this hill. Are they going to figure out what
is the best?
Speaker 2: Okay I said not rhythm flow?
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe rhythm and flow off playing a j off,
playing Robert Wright and playing.
Speaker 2: And playing Richie right, And maybe I would even add
to that.
Speaker 5: I even add to that Keba and the guide to me, Ben,
that's going to be a key off the bench. To me,
it's gonna be Alexe right. If it's not Alexey, then
it's gonna be Baker. And so because there is gonna
have to be someone when Robert Wright is not in
that is gonna have to not necessarily create a play,
but it's gonna have to at least deperman.
Speaker 2: The flow of the game. Oh, I'm gonna get the ball.
I'm gonna get the ball to a j here. We're
gonna run display for Rick pat right.
Speaker 5: And so those two need become the five most important players,
you know, Robert Wright, AJ, Richie Deba and then to
me either Aleksee or Baker because Baker is able to
bring the ball up and play some point guard if
you needed my.
Speaker 3: Guy Jonathan devn are breaking down this BYU men's basketball
team and their win in their exhibition match at the
Delta Center. Do you take anything away from a neutral setting?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: I know it wasn't a sold out crowd. Those were
highly priced tickets and it looked like it was a
bit empty there at the Delta Center. But those that
had the funds, the filthy lucre to spend on an
exhibition they got what they they paid for because it
was an entertaining one. Anything to take away from a
neutral setting here in that win, a little bit more
credibility given that it was up in Salt Lake.
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, way more credibility.
Speaker 5: I mean, amazing game, amazing atmosphere again because it is
you know, it was a football game. It's you know, sorry,
because it was on doing football season at the beginning.
I don't know the answer to this, but maybe the
rock and the rock passes didn't apply. I'm not one
hundred percent sure, right, And so I get it right,
about half of the half of the half of.
Speaker 2: The Delta Center was completely empty.
Speaker 5: And I had multiple people there they said, yeah, there's
about half of it, and it's an exhibition game.
Speaker 2: Right, it doesn't count.
Speaker 5: However, there is a difference then between you know, you're
playing an exhibition game at the Delta Center against North
Carolina and you're playing a home game at the Marriott
Center again you know, North Dakota State Christian Community College.
You know what I'm saying, Like, it's there's a massive difference.
And so to me, it's one of those things you
take the good with the bad, the bad with the good,
and at the end of the day, it was a
test to make sure that by U is better prepared
for the upcoming season.
Speaker 3: Jonathan Tallinari here on esp and the Fan talking some
by U basketball and uh uh, is there anyone that
stepped up in this game from a personnel standpoint that
you'd like to highlight that that maybe we're still kind
of in that eval.
Speaker 4: Mode of of what the role will be.
Speaker 3: Obviously this this game was led by AJ and Keba,
but from like an individual effort or execution standpoint, anybody
that you'd like to highlight and a specific skill set
that they provided in this game.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, let's let's just look I mean something
that you guys pointed out.
Speaker 2: Let's just look at the box court.
Speaker 5: You know when you look at Keeba Keeta and he
was four to four from the free throw line, when
has that happened last year?
Speaker 2: Really nice? INDI you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: The tournament was the last time that Keba.
Speaker 7: Because Keba and fus or six and nine in the
first athlete.
Speaker 3: You can tell that these guys are individually, like they're
getting coached up at an individual level in practice and
getting additional reps. We all know what Richie puts in
the work, but what we don't always see is that
Keba maybe is going with their developmental coach. Maybe it's Burgess,
maybe it's now forgetting his name, who's the individual development
guy that came from.
Speaker 2: The G League.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like phenomenal by the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like he could be working on the mechanics,
on the hand placement, on the rhythm, on the operational
approach that CABA's taking to standardize his movements to get
him into homeostasis so he can hit consistently from the
charity stripe. We don't know that, but it's great to
see the fruits early on that they're hitting early. To me, right,
they're hitting early, and that that's a really good point there, JT.
I appreciate you bringing up Caba being perfect from the line.
Speaker 7: Just to add on to that, Ben JT would agree
with this. Remember Trevin Hill's Floyd in the WCC like
never went down, like stop taking that shot. Once Kevin
Young's staff came in, it was like Trevor was automatic
with that floater, like inside the paint. Their points became
the elegly rich rich that floater that fall the staff.
It didn't you you can't miss that.
Speaker 3: I don't think Richie had it in his back prior
to a k Y coming to town because and then
all of a sudden, he's just hitting that floater from
like twenty feet like he's like hitting the floater, you know,
from extended elbow.
Speaker 4: I'm like, where did that come from?
Speaker 5: So listen, I don't want to pull a Kendrick Perkins
here on Tacheen credited for.
Speaker 2: For job for John Moran's Notoriety Man.
Speaker 8: But but but but before all of the staff was
in place and everything was organized as it was this
past summer, something happened less.
Speaker 5: Summer Boys that you know, there was somebody down there
in Provo working a lot with Trevin Neill and a
couple of other guys, you know, spending a lot of
time with them, working on a.
Speaker 2: Lot of these shots. Oh geez, I don't know if
somebody remember his name. Do you know, guy? Do you
guys know what I'm talking about? Come on listen again again.
Speaker 5: The credit go all to these guys, right, But we
worked a ton on that on the summertime, especially with Travin.
I would say, Traving, look, you like to shoot the
stupid shoot this little stupid shot, this floater by.
Speaker 2: All means do it. But if you're going to do it,
do it well.
Speaker 5: And he worked on it a lot, like we would
do sects of the twenties and thirties where he would
go on a run. And so it's all about work, right,
It's putting into work and seeing their results, you know.
So I would say, you know, kebus free throw definitely
was something that caught my attention. Robert Wright. Five assists,
but you know.
Speaker 6: Kind of going with the good, the bad, the beautiful,
the outherly Ben I will say this, it is a
little bit concerning right now, the les of three point
shooting for this YU team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna bring you guys five of
twenty five. Rob was out for four, Carrard was what
one of four? I need to see better, uh, better
efficiency from me? Hilo Bucketviitch too. He's a ten year town.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Ben, they are fifteen for fifty six from the
three point line in the last two games.
Speaker 2: That's Dodo And.
Speaker 5: So that that and again this goes this goes to
a lot. And you know, like I said this obviously,
you know I was on the show a lot last year.
It wasn't very official like it is this year, which
I appreciate you working with me. I love our relationship,
ben Ron, You're the absolutely best.
Speaker 2: But guys, I said it all along last.
Speaker 5: Year, Trevin down needs to be on the starting lineup
because you need to open up the floor and you
need to create a wide open looks. And this year,
what I'm gonna call out is I'm gonna call out Richie,
I'm gonna call out Robert Right, I'm gonna call out aj,
I'm gonna call out Mahilo, I'm gonna call all Canard, Alexey,
Brody Baker, anybody that comes in their basketball IQ reading
off the floor to be able to actually knock down
shots by spacing the floor and understanding that when you
play with a superstar.
Speaker 2: What you need to do.
Speaker 5: You need to figure out a way to give them
a line of pass to make you know, so they
can give you the ball so.
Speaker 2: You can shoot.
Speaker 5: We need to do the team needs to be better
at that because fifteen for fifty six guys, it is
beyond abysmal.
Speaker 2: That is not very good at all. And you know that.
Speaker 5: To me, those are the two highlights of the of
the exhibition games. And so hoping that the YU team
figures out a way to solve these problems, you know, yesterday,
because it can become an achilles heel to them.
Speaker 3: Jonathan Debernard, Ladies and gentlemen, JT for three, follow him
on X and always tune in on Tuesdays. He pontificates
los palabras uh del brasileiro.
Speaker 4: We appreciate you, love you, thanks so much, j.
Speaker 5: T always and forever. Grokos. Then do you know that
what the word pontificate comes.
Speaker 3: From the etymology of pontific card I think it's a
Latin based term. To Atlanta is yeah, it's a Latin
term for laboration.
Speaker 2: And who is the pontifacts?
Speaker 4: Is that is that a oh? Yeah, yeah, it is right. Yeah,
the pontifacticism.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2: My friend.
Speaker 5: So I guess I am the new Pope of by
U Basketball.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 4: We needed one.
Speaker 3: We need a new pope for for b a US Basketball.
We lost the other pope to Filthy Luca.
Speaker 2: Yes we lost, we lost the fake pope. We got
the real one back.
Speaker 3: Let's go, Pontificator, the Pontifacts of Brigham.
Speaker 4: Thanks so much, brother, appreciate you, love.
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he switch up?
Speaker 7: He's been like, I feel like anti BYU a lot.
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when he said I'm just not high on BYU this year.
Speaker 4: Anyway, all fans know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 7: You remember the clip I do and here BYU is
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Joe Klatt twitched up. We're gonna play the clip. I
got a queed up. Let's hear he has a new
top ten this week and BYU is in it.
Speaker 10: All right, here's my top ten in college football, a
little bit of a change up. Let's start at number
ten with BYU. It's a couple of really great wins
the last couple of weeks, Utah at home and then
Iowa State on the road.
Speaker 4: Number nine is Miami. Miami.
Speaker 10: Their peaks and valleys concerned me a little bit, but
at their best they're really good. Like the second half
against Stanford. I like their line of scrimmage play in
particularly on the defensive side. So they're number nine for me.
Number eight is Old Miss That's a good good win
on the road against Oklahoma, in particularly in the fashion
that it happened. It felt similar to the game against
Georgia where they started to wilt down the stretch and
ultimately got beat by Gunnar Stockton to the Bulldogs.
Speaker 4: But they held up. This time. They learned those lessons.
Speaker 10: They were able to I thought play really efficiently on
the offensive side. Trinidad Shambliss is a good player. He's
a really good football player and a good fit for
Lane's offense. He just kind of sense that when you
watch them play. So they're at number eight. Notre Dame
is still at number seven. You can leave a comment below.
You know, everyone's a barker. Maybe it was two losses.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 10: That's easily one of the top ten teams in the country.
They run it well, they can throw it well. Even
though car didn't play great against USC their defense is
playing much better over the last five games. They're the
twelfth best defense in college football. So they're going to
be right there at the end of this thing. Oregon
is going to be number six. Kind of an ugly
win over Wisconsin. That's two straight years, by the way,
an ugly win over Wisconsin. Still believe in the Ducks,
and I believe in Dan Lanning five. Really hard to kill,
but constantly flirting with death. They remind me of Tom
Cruise emission impossible. It's like, hey, maybe don't ride a
motorcycle off a cliff, you know, because like that's probably
not the smartest thing to do, but.
Speaker 4: Hey, you've got a parachute. Not right, and we won.
That's Georgia right now.
Speaker 10: Bama is number four at their best, they're really good.
In particular, if ty Simpson is playing well, they're hard
to be But if he doesn't play his best, then
that team is flawed.
Speaker 4: Namely, they don't run it well.
Speaker 10: The defense isn't isn't quite the elite defense that we've
seen before.
Speaker 4: You can take a look at them right now.
Speaker 10: They're like next to last in the SEC in terms
of rushing yards per carry. That's not a good omen
for them. That has to get better to be more complete.
Number three, all.
Speaker 7: Right, I cut it off there because I wanted him
to go through the top four. And the reason why
I don't believe BYU is a top three team in
the country. I wanted to play the Alabama one, Brett,
because Alabama's lost as to Florida State.
Speaker 11: That is one of those games, and there's there's a
couple of them every year, but Florida State and Alabama
is that loss that when you watch it at the
beginning of the season, Oh, you go, oh my gosh,
maybe we need to buy some stock in Mike Norvel
and Tommy Castianos Florida State and you're going, Okay, this
is a team that could could beat his Florida State
back and then they just rattle off loss after loss
after loss.
Speaker 4: Now is he gonna be fired? So then your next
question is was his Alabama not as good as we
thought they were?
Speaker 11: No, Alabama's actually really good this year, which pains me
to say, but it is one of those losses that
just makes no sense in.
Speaker 4: The college fooball landscape.
Speaker 7: Well, the reason why I bring that one up, people,
and sorry if I let the clip go too long.
By you played in the beginning. I just want to
touch on something. He goes quickly through BYU gives no
praise to bear. This has a two big wins moves on.
So I think that's a little pettiness right there, because
he had him as the top five numbers. So he
was selling it at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 11: I'm taking a free lap because I made a whole
video about this about how BYU and Utah were such
similar football teams, yet Joel Clatt was saying that he
was buying the Utah and selling BYU and Utah fans
came out of the woodworks to tell me I didn't
know what I was talking about.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 11: What I didn't realize was that BYU would be so
much better than Utah, and to Utah fans, that is unfortunate.
Speaker 4: I thought they would be more similar. Guess they're not
because Bou won and Utah didn't.
Speaker 11: But Joel Clatt is not taking a victory lap because
he sold BYU. He said that was one of his
top five cells of the season, which, to be honest, like, dude,
that's such low hanging fruits.
Speaker 4: I guess when you're in the a big loss, I
don't want to act like it, right, But that's okay.
So they're the top time team. You're selling, Yeah, so
is everybody else.
Speaker 11: If a company goes out of business and you're saying, oh,
we're selling stock, yeah, of course you are. Bill, you
lost their starting quarterback who people thought were gonna have
a breakout year this year, and he's playing pretty well
at Tulane. It's not a hot take or anything to
be proud of for you to be like, oh, I'm
selling BYU.
Speaker 4: Yeah guess what we knew that?
Speaker 7: Yeah, we knew that indeed, And the reason why I
played that. The long of the clip Alabama Forest Alabama
ranked in the right position, number four Georgia. And I'm
not saying that Boa is better than I don't want
fans to think that. I don't want people think I'm
trying to speak out two sides of my mouth. And
you know what, but I bring it up of is
should be what you be higher. That's what I'm trying
to say. The teams in front, you know. That's why
I played all.
Speaker 4: That Oregon, all of that.
Speaker 11: Do another segment that is just one hundred in Miami
because I got some thoughts on that one hundred percent.
Speaker 7: And I'll say this right, I'm gonna say last year,
I think the highest they could be a seven. I
think the lowest state should be as nine. That's my
personal opinion on the matter. I don't think they're ten.
I don't think they're above seven. If you look at
the strangers schedule, if you look to see what they've done,
I think BYU can be as high as in the
a P pole of seven. I think the lowest they
can be as nine. I look at Miami and how
they lost. You can't tell me, nor to Dame two
losses should be above bye. You just can't convince me
of that. Because the BYU would have lost the two games.
Let's say BOU would have played two tough teams. Non conference, right,
they were ACC or SEC teams or Big Ten, they
supposed to lose those games, they wouldn't get credit for
being the top ten team. If they were undefeated, they
wouldn't have that would not be the case, but you
give it to other teams.
Speaker 4: So that's why I think.
Speaker 7: I think BOEU strength of schedule puts them at a
position I think I can't remember. I have to go
back and fact check, but I saw some statistic this
that they had a top five, top ten schedule, so.
Speaker 4: They were top eight in strength of record, strank the
record last week.
Speaker 7: So like, so that's what I'm saying, Like, if you
want to put them right at number eight and a
p pole, cool, I'm good with that.
Speaker 4: I'll move on from it.
Speaker 7: But I just when you look at the College Football
Power Index, when you look, I just, how do you
not put BYU in that conversation.
Speaker 4: In that mix? So it's just strength of record right now? See,
So there you go.
Speaker 7: So that's the what I was looking at the College
Football Power Index. According to ESPN, they're number five, that
Texas A and M is number one, Indiana's number two,
Ohio States number three, Alabama's number four, bulties number five.
Speaker 4: So based off of that eleven, Motor Dame is at fifteen.
Speaker 7: So if they're in Miami and Nordre Dame are ten
to fifteen, nowhere near byu ba's tensed bouts above them.
How in the world is Miami and Nordre Dame and
Joel Klatt's top ten ranked above And then to go
to the eight people, No, they should be. Now if
you were to say, okay, bo, he's nine in Miami's ten. Cool,
I'll keep it pushing, you know, But to tie them
at ten, lily, it wasn't until Dave Portanoy went on
his rant, even though he picked against BYU.
Speaker 4: It wasn't until that. No one in the national media
believes in the Big twelve.
Speaker 7: That's why I was so upset when Arizona State didn't
beat Texas last year, because that would have solidified the narrative. Like,
even if a Big twelve team gets to the College
FOOTBA Playoff, which it will happen, unless they win and
get to the second round, that's not gonna change anything.
We're gonna play a clip here momentarily about that. What
Joe Clatt about expanding the football to twenty four teams
in that regard, and I'll get your thoughts on that, Brett,
but I just I don't know. I think BYU is
still being a little bit disrespected. They're not ranked rightfully.
So I found the clip, actually did some I did
some double ticks. I had to do some producing, some
you know, some hosting of this segment. I found where
Joe Klatt posted earlier that he's selling BYU as a
number four team. Let's listen, and Joe Klatt earlier in
the year, back in July, reminds you selling BYU.
Speaker 10: This is an easy sell. Unfortunate for this program, but
this is just what happens right now. This sell is BYU.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 10: So with everything that's gone on this summer, you look
back and it's like they start nine to zero last year,
They've got CFP in their sites, they lose two of
their last three in the regular season, they beat color
out on the bowl game. A lot of people high
on them in the offseason, but part of that was
the fact that they felt like with Jake Rhetzloff back
on offense, they could handle some of the losses on
the defensive side. I love Kolonie Sataki again. This is
not indicative of like an overall program decline. It's just
an indicative of terrible timing at the most important position
on the field. Jake Rhetzloff left the school after violating
the Schools on Our code. So this is a guy
that on the field was steady. He was a good
leader for them from last year. They believed in him,
and now all of a sudden, you lose your quarterback
and the three man battle has had no time to develop.
What do they got McKay Hillstead He's got four career
starts at Utah State. He's a dual threat guy. They've
got traycon Borgay eight career starts at Western Michigan, and
then a true freshman, Bear Brockmeyer. He enrolled at Stanford
in January, but transferred after Troy Taylor was fired, so
he's been there a short time. So in total, they
have twelve total quarterback starts at the college level and
zero at the power flour level. That's tough. It's really
tough to overcome that they're replacing eight starters. On defense
that was a defense that was excellent last year. The
schedule isn't bad, but it's again just like all the
other Big twelve schedules. You're facing a bunch of teams
with similar talent, and you're probably going to be in
a one score game with a quarterback that has no experience.
So again, not indicative of where this program is at.
Over All, I love Kalone set everything he stands for
and represents. I like this program, but for twenty twenty five,
this is an easy sell BYU is on the cell list.
Speaker 4: Easy sell, Joe, what about now? Easy sell? Still again,
a lot of football left to be played, but easy sell,
I think not. Do you name that movie? Can you
name that movie? Incredible?
Speaker 9: Ah?
Speaker 4: My guy, appreciate you knowing. Let's get it out love.
I love that you got that. Let's get it But no,
I think not like and I'm mad.
Speaker 7: And the reason why I get mad at that is
because guys, the national media is not always right, just
because they get paid the big bucks and things, and
people are gonna think I'm taking a shot at them.
Speaker 4: I don't care.
Speaker 5: Like.
Speaker 7: You have to understand that they can't get everything right.
They're human too, they can't predict everything. No one thought that.
By you, I thought they'd be eight and four right,
But no one thought that they'd be this good whether
at they thought they knew and he said there was
no quarterback, that it was an easy sale. Okay, well
guess what did you think? Did you think about Bear?
I mean, let's be real. Though Bear has been exceeded
or ext.
Speaker 4: You're not wrong about that.
Speaker 11: My issue with Joel Klatt's take is when you make
a take like that, what you're insinuating is that Jake
Retsloff was essentially the Heisman Trophy candidate for you, that
he carried a bad football team with a bad defense
and bad coaching and a bad offensive line and no
receivers and no running backs, so that if they lost him,
ninety percent of their production was gone.
Speaker 4: I agree, it's a good point. It's a good take.
Speaker 11: I don't want to just trash Jake Redsloft because he
did a lot of.
Speaker 4: Really good things.
Speaker 11: For carried him sometimes when he had a propensity to
turn the football over, the defense had to carry him.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you this. You turned the football over
in the Arizona game. You don't win that game.
Speaker 11: You turned the football over in the Utah game, you
don't win that football game.
Speaker 4: You turned the football over this last week.
Speaker 11: You don't win that football game, and Jake Retzoff had
a propensity last year to turn the football over. Now
this year, let's give Jake his flowers. He's been better
about turning the football over. Yes, But my issue with
Joel Clatt's sake is, Okay, dude, it's easy to pile
on the school who lost their starting quarterback and saying, oh,
they're not gonna be as good as they were last year. Yeah,
give me something more nuanced. The problem I have with
the take is that he's insinutting that the defense wasn't good,
that the offensive line wasn't good, that the running back
and skills positions weren't good, and that Byu was carried
by Jake Rudsloft. Where I think what the reality was
is that this was a full team effort last year,
and at no point other than a couple fourth quarter
drives did Jake Rudsloff have to purely carry the team
on his back. And in some instances, as you mentioned,
Jake Rutzloff turned the ball over and the defense had
to put him back in position to go down and
win the game. So, yes, Joel was by you projected
to do less because they lost the starting quarterback. Yes,
was the sky falling because they lost the starting quarterback? No,
because the defense, the coaches, offensive line, and skill positions
were all still there.
Speaker 4: And you're seeing that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you bring up a very good point of they
saw that, and this is our job is to say
what we see, right, like, Okay, this guy's falling. Lets
see what comes out. And you really can't judge a
team until non conference. And again, it was a it
was a knee jerk reaction. It was a new jerk
reaction by everybody of Okay.
Speaker 4: And honestly, can I have a roll with you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: It might be a content reaction.
Speaker 11: And I say this is someone who makes part of
making content is and I hate to say this, but
anyone who makes content knows what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's true. You need to get a reaction out of people.
Speaker 11: And I think anytime you can target a fan base,
that fan base will rise up, they react, they interact
with your content, then your content explodes. So do I
think Joe Klott's disingenuous? No? But do I also think
he knew that if he sold BYU that he might
be able to get a good reaction and might be
able to get good views on his content.
Speaker 4: Abe, Yeah, you bring up a very good point.
Speaker 7: And look, I went back and I did some numbers
because I want to know, because we had this discussion
that said.
Speaker 4: We wouldn't really be able to know to the end
of the season. And I went back and I just
did it during this segment.
Speaker 7: I've got some numbers for you, and I think fans
are really going to like these numbers in that regard
of Okay, did you upgrade at quarterback?
Speaker 4: We're gonna find out right now.
Speaker 7: So, Jake retz Lav this is through eight games, so
Bear has only thrown what three interceptions? Well, let me
tell you what Jake did three eight games. He was
eighteen touchdowns, seven interceptions. He threw for one than six
hundred and fifty four yards three hundred three rushing yards
on the ground, and had three touchdowns. So he had
twenty one total touchdowns and he had just about what
almost close to two thousand yards of total offense. There
you go, Bear, mind you true freshman. This season, Bear
has thrown for one thousand, six hundred and ninety three
yards so just about seventeen hundred, has thrown eleven touchdowns,
only has three i in ts, has four hundred eight
rushing yards and has nine total and has nine touchdowns
on the ground. So n excuse me, twenty total touchdown
for Bear, one less than Jake, but has thrown for
a few what probably about sixty more yards, but also's
turned the ball over four less time, saying guess what, guys,
I'm not even counting Jake Redsloff's fumble turnovers in that
regard to I didn't even do that, so we might
have to add that into the mix. I won't give
a declarative number because I don't have that. So there
you go, so almost about the same. So you still
don't know if you have grad until you get to
the end of season. But I bring that point up
to validate my point of ye gee, like, did you
like think about that? So to agree of your point
of the defense keeping them in games? Okay, you can
make that argument about Bear, but as Bear turned the
football over, right, and that's.
Speaker 11: What we're talking about, because that's four drives killed by
Jake Retzloffs, more so Jake would than what Bear Bachmeyer
has done. And again, like I said earlier, if you
turn the football over for if you turn the football
over one time, Arizona, you lose that game. You turned
the football over more at one more time. At Colorado,
you lose the game, you turned the football over one
more time. You tell you lose the game, and you
turn the ball over one more time, I would say
you absolutely lose the game. So that's I mean, that's
four games that you probably would have lost if Jake
was turning, if Bear was turning the ball over at
the rate that Jake is. Again, Jake has improved this year.
So we're comparing this year's Bear to last year's Jake.
If you're comparing this year's Bear to this year's Jake,
which is really what we're talking about, because we're saying
what would Jake, what would Jake have been this year
compared to what Bear is. I still think it's closer,
but certainly Byu looked like an easy sell to Joe
Lye and now is sitting in top ten one hundred.
Speaker 7: Okay, let's go ahead and play the last clip. There's
a little bit of discussion. No, we're going along with
this Cougar Bytes segment about Boa. The second one, Joe
Clatt talked about expanding the college football playoff format to
twenty four team a twenty fourteen bracket, you know, in
the end of the season projection.
Speaker 4: Let's listen in let's see where bo you would fall
in the wink of our.
Speaker 10: Thoughts for team college football playoff model, the top four conferences,
the Power four conferences. From each of the Power four conferences,
four teams would get automatic berths. Eighteen of the twenty
four are automatic qualif fires and the six at large spots,
so we still get a little bit of committee. What
would it look like this year based on the current
standings in each conference and also where the AP poll is.
So in the Big Ten, the automatic qualifiers at this
juncture would be Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon, and then Illinois.
They would be kind of the top four of the
standings and get those automatic access spots.
Speaker 4: Now we move on, so the SEC would look like this.
Speaker 10: The automatic qualifiers would be Texas A and M Bama,
Georgia and Ole miss Group of six and Notre Dame.
The automatic qualifiers would be South Florida and two Lane.
Speaker 4: They would be the top group of six teams.
Speaker 10: Notre Dame would be getting it at large, and then
in the hunt we would have Navy, Memphis, Santigo, State,
North Texas, James Madison, UNLV, and Boise State number one.
The asterisks are those teams that are getting in with
at large spots, So those at large spots are Mazoo, Vanderbilt,
Notre Dame, Oklahoma, LSU, Tennessee. Now the bottom teams in
these first round matchups, which are also highlighted in white,
those are the home teams. Another huge point to this
model that they're discussing right now is that both the
first round and the second round would be on campus,
and this model there'd be eight teams that get first
round buys and be moving into that second round position.
Let's talk about some of the pros here of what's
going on, and you guys know that I feel this way.
Number one, any change to the playoff in any form,
I think really needs to minimize the committee and create
better roads of access rather than selection.
Speaker 4: So with the selection being moved down.
Speaker 10: Into those six picks and getting eighteen defined paths for
teams to have access to the playoff, I think would
be a quality thing. I think that you need to
increase the valuable regular season games, both in the non
conference and in the conference, So you need to make
conference games more valuable. Well, you do that by increasing
the value of finishing in the top four in these
Power four conferences. I think that you need to increase
the desirability of big, strong matchups in the non conference.
Speaker 4: That's something that we need to do.
Speaker 10: You need to engage more fan bases, and then you
need to get more games on campus.
Speaker 4: There's Joe cladd on the matter.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 7: I do agree with Joe in the last four things
that he said. I think those are all true in
that regarded. Just to give people a kind of a
where would by you be at the four big twelve
teams that would get in BA, you would be the
highest rank right now currently if you need to today
BAU is eleventh. That would take on my Illinois finding
the line ninth. It'd be a tough game for the
heart Obviously, I pick BA. You don't win an that
one because again those teams host at home. In that regard,
I think the first two rounds is what they're talking
about there, frosted home. So BAU would be Illinois would
go on to play number six Oregan and would that'd
be a revenge game for BYU after what happened a
couple of years ago when they didn't get the dub
up there and with those chants that happened. It's funny
how things always come back to the chance. Second team
would be Texas Tech. They'd be number fourteen, they would
host Louisville, and then you'd have number twenty three Arizona State.
They would go excuse me, twenty one Cincinnati would go
on the road to number twelve nor to Dame, and
the number twenty three Arizona State would travel to number
ten Vanderbilt.
Speaker 4: So those would be your four Big twelve teams.
Speaker 7: That is what it would expand to if you went
the top four teams from every conference, Big Power for
Big ten, ACC SEC, and obviously you'd get your Group
of five and ACC in there as well as So
that's how all of those would play out.
Speaker 11: I didn't hear him, But in this model, do they
still have conference championships?
Speaker 4: That's a good question. I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 11: If I'm being real, I don't see the need for
a conference championship.
Speaker 4: Well, I think I think that's what they're trying to
get rid of.
Speaker 11: So yes, that would add it because and if you
have four automatic qualifiers, I guess maybe winning the conference
championship guarantees you a first round by and if that's
the case, then I'm good with that, because you couldn't
lose the conference championship and then fall out of being
a top four qualifying team.
Speaker 4: So I'm good with that.
Speaker 11: If you want to play for an automatic qualifier, I
actually if that's the case, then I'm good with this model. However,
if you're gonna make the postseason this much longer, I
do think you need to cut some regular season games.
But let's be honest, I think everybody would be here
for this model and get rid of the cupcake game
on the schedule.
Speaker 4: Like I'm good with Hick.
Speaker 7: Earlier, Remember we had discussed that everybody plays somebody from
a power conference.
Speaker 4: I'm with you. I'm good with that.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 11: I do understand there's money making involved in this, and
so that's how the FCS schools.
Speaker 4: Make a lot of their money just by playing these teams.
Speaker 11: But I actually really like this model, especially if you
were just talking about getting rid of a conference championship.
The top four teams from each conference get an automatic qualifier,
and then you figure everything else out.
Speaker 4: I actually think this makes so much sense. It's ironic.
Speaker 11: Coming from Joel Clatt, because once again this is a
guy who said we should never expand.
Speaker 4: Past the fourteen playoff.
Speaker 11: I've heard him also say we should never expand plast
to the twelve team playoff.
Speaker 4: But lo and behold, we know Joel Clatt. He comes
around on some things BYU being one of those.
Speaker 11: So the again, guy who didn't love expanding playoffs is
now setting up the discussion for a twenty four team.
I'm good with this. And like I've always said, you
don't jump from a BCS national. You don't jump from
a BCS title to twenty four teams. You had to
slowly move your way. You go from two teams to
four teams, four teams to twelve teams, twelve teams to
twenty four teams.
Speaker 4: I'm good with all of that. I love this model.
Speaker 11: Can you imagine for a second with me, Ron, Just everyone,
if you're listening, just close your eyes and just visualized.
Speaker 4: Not if you're driving, please visualizing.
Speaker 11: Can you imagine snow is up on the mountains, the
snow is coming down on the Vell Edwards Stadium, and
b why you was hosting a playoff game one of
the most scenic venues in all of college football Christmas
is either just passed or right around the season.
Speaker 7: Oh my cougars and c celebris. Oh yeah, I'm trying
to Oh my good Yeah, I can imagine that. Yeah,
that'd be nice.
Speaker 4: Man. And it's and it's snowy.
Speaker 11: So so we're sitting out there and we're tailgating, we're
doing little bills, mafia jumping off my car through a table.
This is just me just going off on a tangent
at this point, But I just think that, like that
would be incredible. I think a twelve team, a twenty
fourteen playoff would make a ton of sense.
Speaker 4: And then obviously how you finishing the top depends on
how you qualify. But good take from Joe Clotte.
Speaker 7: Are you in favor of expanding the college football playoff
to twenty four teams? The top four teams from each
conference get in?
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 7: I will say this from a Big twelve grand standpoint,
to give you four three better opportunities to expand the
brand and say, hey, look, the Big twelve matters. Some
people are gonna hate it because it be like more
football games for Bau's sake, and just how much parody
there is in the Big twelve and that only potentially
one and if not two teams get in if you
were to go away from conference championships.
Speaker 4: Right, I am personally okay with this. I do believe
this though.
Speaker 7: That means, in my opinion, if you're gonna do the
top four, the top team in that conference is the
automatic champion, then you still give them a wat you
just you don't hold that and do that, which what
the Big twelve did, if you see years ago, obsolutely
was Hey, you finished the top of the conference, you're
the champion.
Speaker 4: We're not playing the game for it.
Speaker 11: And if this is the model you're moving towards, I
think you could get rid of it because I think
losing in that game doesn't really matter. But I think
people would hold it against you. Oh you lost in
your conference championship. It's like, yeah, but we're going to
the playoffs though it doesn't really matter. And then what
if you lose in your conference championship and then you
lose a tie breaker because you have all those things.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, I'm good. I think that makes a
lot of sense. It doesn't make a lot of sense, guys. Guys,
Well that was your little Cougar bytes segment. Did a
lot of explanation. They're kind of some college not kind
of some college football. They're in the mix as well
regarding BOU. But I just think that's funny. He sold
b a earlier now in his top ten, gave a
little shortened yeah, they got these wins, and then moved
on from it and then harps on everybody else. I
just think it's funny. But I don't believe BA you
should be tied for tenth. I believe BA you should
either be ninth or seventh, somewhere in between. That mixes
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