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Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna get into some college basketball BYU basketball,

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specifically recapping the BYU U n C exhibition game. What

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we learned, what we liked, what we disliked what we

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wanted to see improved upon, and the reality is setting

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in that Aj is obviously the real deal and Rob

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Wright is very much the real deal. Richie coming into

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his own, finding his spacing, finding his spot, finding his

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role within the offense is going to be intriguing something

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to watch early on in the season as well as

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the rotation. We're gonna break it all down with a

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All right, let's get out to the hotline welcome to

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Speaker 4: We got Jonathan Tepinard. What's up JT. I.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm getting my weekly fix of uplifting today.

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So it's always a cherishable moment, my friend. I'm the

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most wonderful time of the year. Basketball season is happening.

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We have a basketball game next week being critical, so

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it's exciting.

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Speaker 2: It's an exciting time to be a BYU fan.

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Speaker 3: It is, indeed, and BYU got a win in an

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exhibition game at the Delta Center, and we saw a

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lot of good things, a lot of great things from

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this BYU basketball roster. I want to break it all

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down with you here, the good, the bad, the beautiful,

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the ugly. What did you like about the performance of

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the seventy eight seventy six win over in North Carolina?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's you know I again, let's go back to

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what I we did.

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Speaker 2: No, maybe, and maybe Ron, we can.

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Speaker 5: Kind of formulate days as the season goes on.

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Speaker 2: I would love for us to do that. But the good,

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the bad, and the ugly, or maybe Benny, if you

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want to do it in a different way.

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Speaker 6: But I think that way it gives us, gives the

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fans something for us to kind of.

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Speaker 2: Like focus on. I don't know what you guys do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's to me, it's the good, the bad,

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the beautiful, the ugly, right like, And I think you

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know they it just you want to get the spectrum

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because you know, all good coaches are going to highlight

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great playmaking, great execution, but also they got to focus

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on the things that need to be improved upon it

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or to stay consistent and continue winning.

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Speaker 4: So I think that's what we focus on.

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Speaker 5: Perfect Well, let's just go with the good, the bad,

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the beautiful, and the ugly.

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Speaker 2: Let's go with the good.

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Speaker 5: Richie came back to life now again, you know, it

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is blesshem me if I say something negative about Richie.

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Speaker 2: But when I mentioned Richie coming back to life.

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Speaker 5: What I mean by that is the ball moved a

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little bit better. There was a little bit more ball movement,

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the flow of the often it was a little bit better.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: There are still a lot of situations where there's a

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Speaker 2: Because AJ is beyond.

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Speaker 5: Special, we're going to talk more about that here in

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a minute two. Because rob you know Robert right the

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third is able to create uh something out of nothing,

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which is really really special. But Richie was much more assertive, right,

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a better rhythm, And so I think, you know.

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Speaker 2: Richie is a very unselfish guy. That's that's him by nature. Ben.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm privileged that I get to know him.

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I know his family, his dad is someone that I

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admire a lot. But to me, the good we're gonna

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go with Richie, you know, slowly finding his rhythm, which

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to me is really good. The bad, I would say, is,

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a little bit of a what do we go from here?

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Speaker 2: Because Keva is a.

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remember him from the Pistons right cleaning the board, uh

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defensive anchor right the moment he steps out.

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Speaker 2: In my view, two things need to happen.

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Speaker 5: Either Xavion becomes someone that you can rely consistently, or

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you have to bring in Kadeen and or Dominique, you know,

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for them to be able to compliment Canar Davis. And

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what I mean by that is you're gonna beat him

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young you know, not necessarily on offense. But then at

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: So, to me, the bed is how can we have

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a smooth transition going from Keba because if you remember

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and that felt incredible, like the team kept going.

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Speaker 2: That was the same type of flow.

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Speaker 5: Now you were playing in a different perspective, but it

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Speaker 2: And so to me, that's the bed. The beautiful to

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Speaker 5: You know again, I'm a I'm a euro Ball type

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of guy, right so past past and past, but it

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is difficult for you not to say that the beautiful

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Speaker 2: De Bonsa right now.

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Speaker 5: And the reason why I say that is because it

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never an it'sy history. And yesterday I spent about an

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hour and a half studying YU basketball history.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you things.

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Speaker 5: Been data to even when before they joined a weck

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in the ninth thirties, when DYU basketball is considered independent,

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never by U basketball has had a player like a

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Jane DEBONSA jimm Er is the closest thing that comes

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to it in terms of you was his offensive proudness,

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pro wessness, however you say it in English, what AJ

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that was in high school six months ago, it is

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unheard of. It is difficult enough for you not to

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think AJ is going to be one of the top

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two or three picks in a draft.

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Speaker 2: It's not. It's not the consensus number one.

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Speaker 5: His understanding of the game, his fuel for the game,

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his reading of the game, his basketball IQ, the way

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it is crazy to think he's only eighteen years old.

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ugly I will probably say that Devin Young again, like

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is this ugly or is this a sense of urgency?

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figure out his rotations sooner rather than later, or he's

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he's going to figure out a way to get you know,

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those those break those big three to score sixty or

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more points every game, or someone else is going to

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Speaker 4: It's that's the truth of the matter. I just came.

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Speaker 5: You know, I expected a little bit more out of Alexey.

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Speaker 2: I'm not seeing that right now.

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Speaker 5: I expected a little bit more of the guys.

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Speaker 2: Coming out of the bench. I'm not seeing that now.

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Speaker 5: Or Kevin Young is going to have to figure out

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away for his three big you know, his three main

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players on offense to get each twenty plus a game

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to make sure that BYU wins basketball games.

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Speaker 3: Let's discuss AJ Devonsa for a minute. Eighteen points six

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or thirteen from the field, eight rebounds, three blocks, three steals.

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side of the ball. Obviously, transition scoring was nice. He's

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high energy. Would you like to see more playmaking distribution

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from AJ or are you more concerned about shooting efficiency,

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getting the right shots for AJ, shot creation for himself?

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Speaker 4: Which one of your most concerned about right now?

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Speaker 5: I what I would probably say, and this is going

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to be it's actually neither or neither.

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Speaker 2: Ranking you say both boys that you said, I.

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Speaker 5: Would actually say, people need to know and learn how

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to play with a superstar and dayto no Ben and I,

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you know, it's interesting Sen Merriw is having a heck

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of an NBA season right now, and you know I was.

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say Jimmer is better than Sam and all of that,

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and Sam's having an amazing NBA care sind Merrow has

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been able to adapt from being ball dominant and playing

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with the ball in college to be a complementary piece

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around a superstar, and guys in this scene are going

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to have to figure out a way to do that.

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getting early looks is because it is less difficult for

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because that's just part of the game.

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Speaker 5: Customed to play with an American who's going to be

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ball dominant, and you move without the ball and you

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what we're seeing right now, Mohilo usually being the first

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Speaker 2: But Richie's going to have to do.

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Speaker 5: A little bit better job of adapting to play with

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Speaker 2: It's not an easy team to do, right.

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Speaker 5: This is where I think maybe a Brody Kosblowski might

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a natural a natural born shooter. And Brody actually did

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won back to back Adidas three SSB Championships. And so

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Feba and he was rebounding off the ball, he was

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is not.

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Speaker 2: A selfish player.

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Speaker 5: Ben he actually he actually dishes the ball well, but

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you have to be in a position to do it.

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Speaker 4: I love that breakdown.

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Speaker 3: Kiva Cata was a b sixteen points, ten rebounds, eighteen offensive.

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He also had two steals and that game winning block.

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He was perfect from the charity stripe. And you mentioned

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when he's off the court, you know, hey, who's going

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to be that guy to fill those shoes? That still

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maybe a question mark for this BYU Cougar basketball team.

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How many minutes a game can we put Keba? Keep

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Keba on the floor as long as he's not getting

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into foul trouble.

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Speaker 2: Do you think.

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Speaker 5: If for him to be effective and maximize his potential,

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if you cannot play him more than twenty eight twenty

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definitely no more than thirty minutes, that should be the top.

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I think if you can play Keba twenty eight twenty

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nine minutes. You're going to get him at like a

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priesting crystal clear, Like you're got.

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Speaker 2: To maximize everything about him, you know.

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Speaker 5: And that's because we you know, foul trouble and free

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throws at the end of the games. You know, maybe

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they do a hacker Keba, right. We don't know, but

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to me, at twenty eight twenty nine minutes a game

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would be perfect for him.

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Speaker 3: I like that break down. Jonathan Tavanari here on ESPN

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things here. I did notice the amount of turnovers. Look

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unc is the real deal. They're a top twenty five team.

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They may be a Final four team for all we

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know right now. BYU forced nineteen turnovers in this game.

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And one of the priorities of the offseason was elevating

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the defensive playmaking ability, the lengthy athleticism on the perimeter,

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and up to this point, it seems like it's been done.

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It's been executed. Any concerns in relation to the defensive

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efforts thus far, the defensive schemes, the defensive personnel none.

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Speaker 5: Defensively, this team has been great. I even thought last

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year defensively the team was great. I didn't think there

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was an issue with you know, the drive lines or

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anything like that. And I think I said as much.

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Ron correct me if I'm wrong, But I wasn't negative

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or said that was bad after the Nebraska game when

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it comes to defense, Am I correct?

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Speaker 7: Yes, we had said that if you're gonna play three

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point perimeter defense like that, you're not gonna make it

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out even the first round of the tournament.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, and that's the thing, right, And so defensively, I

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think the team is solid. I think you know, the

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way that they're guarding, it's great. Here's the thing, then,

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when you have five athletes on the court, and I

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do mean athletes in terms of their physical abilities, you're

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gonna be okay, right and uh, and that's what by

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U has right now. And so but again, Keva, being

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on defense is a big thing.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: When Xavion came in, defensively, we kind of dropped a

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little bit, and so I think causing them any turnovers,

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lots of steels, lots of reflections. I think it's a

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great thing, you know how Again, and I'm gonna die

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on this hill. Are they going to figure out what

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is the best?

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Speaker 2: Okay I said not rhythm flow?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe rhythm and flow off playing a j off,

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playing Robert Wright and playing.

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Speaker 2: And playing Richie right, And maybe I would even add

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to that.

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Speaker 5: I even add to that Keba and the guide to me, Ben,

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that's going to be a key off the bench. To me,

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it's gonna be Alexe right. If it's not Alexey, then

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it's gonna be Baker. And so because there is gonna

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have to be someone when Robert Wright is not in

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that is gonna have to not necessarily create a play,

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but it's gonna have to at least deperman.

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Speaker 2: The flow of the game. Oh, I'm gonna get the ball.

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I'm gonna get the ball to a j here. We're

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gonna run display for Rick pat right.

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Speaker 5: And so those two need become the five most important players,

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you know, Robert Wright, AJ, Richie Deba and then to

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me either Aleksee or Baker because Baker is able to

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bring the ball up and play some point guard if

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you needed my.

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Speaker 3: Guy Jonathan devn are breaking down this BYU men's basketball

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team and their win in their exhibition match at the

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Delta Center. Do you take anything away from a neutral setting?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: I know it wasn't a sold out crowd. Those were

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highly priced tickets and it looked like it was a

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bit empty there at the Delta Center. But those that

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had the funds, the filthy lucre to spend on an

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exhibition they got what they they paid for because it

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was an entertaining one. Anything to take away from a

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neutral setting here in that win, a little bit more

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credibility given that it was up in Salt Lake.

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Speaker 4: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, way more credibility.

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Speaker 5: I mean, amazing game, amazing atmosphere again because it is

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you know, it was a football game. It's you know, sorry,

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because it was on doing football season at the beginning.

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I don't know the answer to this, but maybe the

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rock and the rock passes didn't apply. I'm not one

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hundred percent sure, right, And so I get it right,

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about half of the half of the half of.

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Speaker 2: The Delta Center was completely empty.

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Speaker 5: And I had multiple people there they said, yeah, there's

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about half of it, and it's an exhibition game.

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Speaker 2: Right, it doesn't count.

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Speaker 5: However, there is a difference then between you know, you're

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playing an exhibition game at the Delta Center against North

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Carolina and you're playing a home game at the Marriott

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Center again you know, North Dakota State Christian Community College.

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You know what I'm saying, Like, it's there's a massive difference.

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And so to me, it's one of those things you

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take the good with the bad, the bad with the good,

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and at the end of the day, it was a

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test to make sure that by U is better prepared

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for the upcoming season.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Tallinari here on esp and the Fan talking some

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by U basketball and uh uh, is there anyone that

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stepped up in this game from a personnel standpoint that

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you'd like to highlight that that maybe we're still kind

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of in that eval.

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Speaker 4: Mode of of what the role will be.

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Speaker 3: Obviously this this game was led by AJ and Keba,

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but from like an individual effort or execution standpoint, anybody

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that you'd like to highlight and a specific skill set

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that they provided in this game.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, let's let's just look I mean something

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that you guys pointed out.

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Speaker 2: Let's just look at the box court.

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Speaker 5: You know when you look at Keeba Keeta and he

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was four to four from the free throw line, when

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has that happened last year?

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Speaker 2: Really nice? INDI you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: The tournament was the last time that Keba.

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Speaker 7: Because Keba and fus or six and nine in the

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first athlete.

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Speaker 3: You can tell that these guys are individually, like they're

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getting coached up at an individual level in practice and

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getting additional reps. We all know what Richie puts in

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the work, but what we don't always see is that

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Keba maybe is going with their developmental coach. Maybe it's Burgess,

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maybe it's now forgetting his name, who's the individual development

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guy that came from.

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Speaker 2: The G League.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like phenomenal by the way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so like he could be working on the mechanics,

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on the hand placement, on the rhythm, on the operational

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approach that CABA's taking to standardize his movements to get

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him into homeostasis so he can hit consistently from the

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charity stripe. We don't know that, but it's great to

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see the fruits early on that they're hitting early. To me, right,

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they're hitting early, and that that's a really good point there, JT.

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I appreciate you bringing up Caba being perfect from the line.

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Speaker 7: Just to add on to that, Ben JT would agree

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with this. Remember Trevin Hill's Floyd in the WCC like

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never went down, like stop taking that shot. Once Kevin

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Young's staff came in, it was like Trevor was automatic

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with that floater, like inside the paint. Their points became

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the elegly rich rich that floater that fall the staff.

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It didn't you you can't miss that.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Richie had it in his back prior

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to a k Y coming to town because and then

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all of a sudden, he's just hitting that floater from

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like twenty feet like he's like hitting the floater, you know,

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from extended elbow.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, where did that come from?

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Speaker 5: So listen, I don't want to pull a Kendrick Perkins

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here on Tacheen credited for.

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Speaker 2: For job for John Moran's Notoriety Man.

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Speaker 8: But but but but before all of the staff was

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in place and everything was organized as it was this

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past summer, something happened less.

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Speaker 5: Summer Boys that you know, there was somebody down there

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in Provo working a lot with Trevin Neill and a

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couple of other guys, you know, spending a lot of

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time with them, working on a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of these shots. Oh geez, I don't know if

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somebody remember his name. Do you know, guy? Do you

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guys know what I'm talking about? Come on listen again again.

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Speaker 5: The credit go all to these guys, right, But we

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worked a ton on that on the summertime, especially with Travin.

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I would say, Traving, look, you like to shoot the

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stupid shoot this little stupid shot, this floater by.

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Speaker 2: All means do it. But if you're going to do it,

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do it well.

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Speaker 5: And he worked on it a lot, like we would

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do sects of the twenties and thirties where he would

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go on a run. And so it's all about work, right,

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It's putting into work and seeing their results, you know.

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So I would say, you know, kebus free throw definitely

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was something that caught my attention. Robert Wright. Five assists,

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but you know.

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Speaker 6: Kind of going with the good, the bad, the beautiful,

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the outherly Ben I will say this, it is a

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little bit concerning right now, the les of three point

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shooting for this YU team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna bring you guys five of

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twenty five. Rob was out for four, Carrard was what

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one of four? I need to see better, uh, better

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efficiency from me? Hilo Bucketviitch too. He's a ten year town.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Ben, they are fifteen for fifty six from the

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three point line in the last two games.

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Speaker 2: That's Dodo And.

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Speaker 5: So that that and again this goes this goes to

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a lot. And you know, like I said this obviously,

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you know I was on the show a lot last year.

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It wasn't very official like it is this year, which

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I appreciate you working with me. I love our relationship,

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ben Ron, You're the absolutely best.

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Speaker 2: But guys, I said it all along last.

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Speaker 5: Year, Trevin down needs to be on the starting lineup

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because you need to open up the floor and you

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need to create a wide open looks. And this year,

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what I'm gonna call out is I'm gonna call out Richie,

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I'm gonna call out Robert Right, I'm gonna call out aj,

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I'm gonna call out Mahilo, I'm gonna call all Canard, Alexey,

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Brody Baker, anybody that comes in their basketball IQ reading

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off the floor to be able to actually knock down

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shots by spacing the floor and understanding that when you

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play with a superstar.

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Speaker 2: What you need to do.

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Speaker 5: You need to figure out a way to give them

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a line of pass to make you know, so they

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can give you the ball so.

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Speaker 2: You can shoot.

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Speaker 5: We need to do the team needs to be better

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at that because fifteen for fifty six guys, it is

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beyond abysmal.

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Speaker 2: That is not very good at all. And you know that.

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Speaker 5: To me, those are the two highlights of the of

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the exhibition games. And so hoping that the YU team

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figures out a way to solve these problems, you know, yesterday,

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We lost the other pope to Filthy Luca.

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the real one back.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, Pontificator, the Pontifacts of Brigham.

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he switch up?

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Speaker 7: He's been like, I feel like anti BYU a lot.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, all fans know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 7: You remember the clip I do and here BYU is

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a no in that regard, and now he's got him

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got a queed up. Let's hear he has a new

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top ten this week and BYU is in it.

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Speaker 10: All right, here's my top ten in college football, a

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little bit of a change up. Let's start at number

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ten with BYU. It's a couple of really great wins

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the last couple of weeks, Utah at home and then

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Speaker 4: Number nine is Miami. Miami.

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Speaker 10: Their peaks and valleys concerned me a little bit, but

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at their best they're really good. Like the second half

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against Stanford. I like their line of scrimmage play in

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particularly on the defensive side. So they're number nine for me.

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Number eight is Old Miss That's a good good win

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on the road against Oklahoma, in particularly in the fashion

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that it happened. It felt similar to the game against

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Georgia where they started to wilt down the stretch and

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ultimately got beat by Gunnar Stockton to the Bulldogs.

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Speaker 4: But they held up. This time. They learned those lessons.

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Speaker 10: They were able to I thought play really efficiently on

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the offensive side. Trinidad Shambliss is a good player. He's

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a really good football player and a good fit for

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Lane's offense. He just kind of sense that when you

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watch them play. So they're at number eight. Notre Dame

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is still at number seven. You can leave a comment below.

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You know, everyone's a barker. Maybe it was two losses.

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Speaker 2: I don't care.

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Speaker 10: That's easily one of the top ten teams in the country.

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They run it well, they can throw it well. Even

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though car didn't play great against USC their defense is

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playing much better over the last five games. They're the

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twelfth best defense in college football. So they're going to

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be right there at the end of this thing. Oregon

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is going to be number six. Kind of an ugly

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win over Wisconsin. That's two straight years, by the way,

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an ugly win over Wisconsin. Still believe in the Ducks,

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and I believe in Dan Lanning five. Really hard to kill,

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but constantly flirting with death. They remind me of Tom

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motorcycle off a cliff, you know, because like that's probably

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not the smartest thing to do, but.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you've got a parachute. Not right, and we won.

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That's Georgia right now.

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Speaker 10: Bama is number four at their best, they're really good.

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In particular, if ty Simpson is playing well, they're hard

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to be But if he doesn't play his best, then

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that team is flawed.

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Speaker 4: Namely, they don't run it well.

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Speaker 10: The defense isn't isn't quite the elite defense that we've

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seen before.

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Speaker 4: You can take a look at them right now.

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Speaker 10: They're like next to last in the SEC in terms

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of rushing yards per carry. That's not a good omen

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for them. That has to get better to be more complete.

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Number three, all.

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Speaker 7: Right, I cut it off there because I wanted him

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to go through the top four. And the reason why

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I don't believe BYU is a top three team in

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the country. I wanted to play the Alabama one, Brett,

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because Alabama's lost as to Florida State.

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Speaker 11: That is one of those games, and there's there's a

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couple of them every year, but Florida State and Alabama

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is that loss that when you watch it at the

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beginning of the season, Oh, you go, oh my gosh,

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maybe we need to buy some stock in Mike Norvel

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and Tommy Castianos Florida State and you're going, Okay, this

710
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,480
is a team that could could beat his Florida State

711
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:24,159
back and then they just rattle off loss after loss

712
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,239
after loss.

713
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 4: Now is he gonna be fired? So then your next

714
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,440
question is was his Alabama not as good as we

715
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:29,920
thought they were?

716
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:33,519
Speaker 11: No, Alabama's actually really good this year, which pains me

717
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:36,000
to say, but it is one of those losses that

718
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:37,920
just makes no sense in.

719
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 4: The college fooball landscape.

720
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:40,679
Speaker 7: Well, the reason why I bring that one up, people,

721
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,599
and sorry if I let the clip go too long.

722
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:44,039
By you played in the beginning. I just want to

723
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:46,840
touch on something. He goes quickly through BYU gives no

724
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,440
praise to bear. This has a two big wins moves on.

725
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:51,719
So I think that's a little pettiness right there, because

726
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,920
he had him as the top five numbers. So he

727
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:55,599
was selling it at the beginning of the season.

728
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,199
Speaker 11: I'm taking a free lap because I made a whole

729
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,960
video about this about how BYU and Utah were such

730
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:04,800
similar football teams, yet Joel Clatt was saying that he

731
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,000
was buying the Utah and selling BYU and Utah fans

732
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:11,519
came out of the woodworks to tell me I didn't

733
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:12,519
know what I was talking about.

734
00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 2: Now.

735
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,119
Speaker 11: What I didn't realize was that BYU would be so

736
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,119
much better than Utah, and to Utah fans, that is unfortunate.

737
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:20,079
Speaker 4: I thought they would be more similar. Guess they're not

738
00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:22,119
because Bou won and Utah didn't.

739
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,559
Speaker 11: But Joel Clatt is not taking a victory lap because

740
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,440
he sold BYU. He said that was one of his

741
00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:32,239
top five cells of the season, which, to be honest, like, dude,

742
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,280
that's such low hanging fruits.

743
00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 4: I guess when you're in the a big loss, I

744
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,639
don't want to act like it, right, But that's okay.

745
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:41,440
So they're the top time team. You're selling, Yeah, so

746
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,719
is everybody else.

747
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 11: If a company goes out of business and you're saying, oh,

748
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,559
we're selling stock, yeah, of course you are. Bill, you

749
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:50,280
lost their starting quarterback who people thought were gonna have

750
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,719
a breakout year this year, and he's playing pretty well

751
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,519
at Tulane. It's not a hot take or anything to

752
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:57,400
be proud of for you to be like, oh, I'm

753
00:35:57,599 --> 00:35:58,440
selling BYU.

754
00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:00,199
Speaker 4: Yeah guess what we knew that?

755
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, we knew that indeed, And the reason why I

756
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,360
played that. The long of the clip Alabama Forest Alabama

757
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,280
ranked in the right position, number four Georgia. And I'm

758
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,920
not saying that Boa is better than I don't want

759
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,719
fans to think that. I don't want people think I'm

760
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,199
trying to speak out two sides of my mouth. And

761
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,480
you know what, but I bring it up of is

762
00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:19,239
should be what you be higher. That's what I'm trying

763
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,159
to say. The teams in front, you know. That's why

764
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:21,719
I played all.

765
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:22,679
Speaker 4: That Oregon, all of that.

766
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 11: Do another segment that is just one hundred in Miami

767
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,639
because I got some thoughts on that one hundred percent.

768
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:30,199
Speaker 7: And I'll say this right, I'm gonna say last year,

769
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:32,639
I think the highest they could be a seven. I

770
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,400
think the lowest state should be as nine. That's my

771
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:37,639
personal opinion on the matter. I don't think they're ten.

772
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,880
I don't think they're above seven. If you look at

773
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,760
the strangers schedule, if you look to see what they've done,

774
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,679
I think BYU can be as high as in the

775
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,000
a P pole of seven. I think the lowest they

776
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:48,320
can be as nine. I look at Miami and how

777
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,840
they lost. You can't tell me, nor to Dame two

778
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,840
losses should be above bye. You just can't convince me

779
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,239
of that. Because the BYU would have lost the two games.

780
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,880
Let's say BOU would have played two tough teams. Non conference, right,

781
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,960
they were ACC or SEC teams or Big Ten, they

782
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,519
supposed to lose those games, they wouldn't get credit for

783
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:07,599
being the top ten team. If they were undefeated, they

784
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:09,559
wouldn't have that would not be the case, but you

785
00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:10,440
give it to other teams.

786
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,159
Speaker 4: So that's why I think.

787
00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:15,079
Speaker 7: I think BOEU strength of schedule puts them at a

788
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:17,039
position I think I can't remember. I have to go

789
00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:19,559
back and fact check, but I saw some statistic this

790
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:21,559
that they had a top five, top ten schedule, so.

791
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 4: They were top eight in strength of record, strank the

792
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:25,719
record last week.

793
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,079
Speaker 7: So like, so that's what I'm saying, Like, if you

794
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:28,599
want to put them right at number eight and a

795
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,119
p pole, cool, I'm good with that.

796
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 4: I'll move on from it.

797
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,119
Speaker 7: But I just when you look at the College Football

798
00:37:33,159 --> 00:37:35,880
Power Index, when you look, I just, how do you

799
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,280
not put BYU in that conversation.

800
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,039
Speaker 4: In that mix? So it's just strength of record right now? See,

801
00:37:43,159 --> 00:37:43,519
So there you go.

802
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 7: So that's the what I was looking at the College

803
00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:48,719
Football Power Index. According to ESPN, they're number five, that

804
00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:51,480
Texas A and M is number one, Indiana's number two,

805
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,599
Ohio States number three, Alabama's number four, bulties number five.

806
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,599
Speaker 4: So based off of that eleven, Motor Dame is at fifteen.

807
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 7: So if they're in Miami and Nordre Dame are ten

808
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,639
to fifteen, nowhere near byu ba's tensed bouts above them.

809
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,320
How in the world is Miami and Nordre Dame and

810
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,199
Joel Klatt's top ten ranked above And then to go

811
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,039
to the eight people, No, they should be. Now if

812
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:14,239
you were to say, okay, bo, he's nine in Miami's ten. Cool,

813
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,519
I'll keep it pushing, you know, But to tie them

814
00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:20,000
at ten, lily, it wasn't until Dave Portanoy went on

815
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:21,960
his rant, even though he picked against BYU.

816
00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 4: It wasn't until that. No one in the national media

817
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,360
believes in the Big twelve.

818
00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 7: That's why I was so upset when Arizona State didn't

819
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,480
beat Texas last year, because that would have solidified the narrative. Like,

820
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,800
even if a Big twelve team gets to the College

821
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,360
FOOTBA Playoff, which it will happen, unless they win and

822
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,960
get to the second round, that's not gonna change anything.

823
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,039
We're gonna play a clip here momentarily about that. What

824
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:43,960
Joe Clatt about expanding the football to twenty four teams

825
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,119
in that regard, and I'll get your thoughts on that, Brett,

826
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,039
but I just I don't know. I think BYU is

827
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:52,320
still being a little bit disrespected. They're not ranked rightfully.

828
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,480
So I found the clip, actually did some I did

829
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:57,960
some double ticks. I had to do some producing, some

830
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,239
you know, some hosting of this segment. I found where

831
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,519
Joe Klatt posted earlier that he's selling BYU as a

832
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:08,199
number four team. Let's listen, and Joe Klatt earlier in

833
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,480
the year, back in July, reminds you selling BYU.

834
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,199
Speaker 10: This is an easy sell. Unfortunate for this program, but

835
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,840
this is just what happens right now. This sell is BYU.

836
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: Okay.

837
00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 10: So with everything that's gone on this summer, you look

838
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,280
back and it's like they start nine to zero last year,

839
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,679
They've got CFP in their sites, they lose two of

840
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,840
their last three in the regular season, they beat color

841
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,920
out on the bowl game. A lot of people high

842
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,159
on them in the offseason, but part of that was

843
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,559
the fact that they felt like with Jake Rhetzloff back

844
00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:42,000
on offense, they could handle some of the losses on

845
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:46,320
the defensive side. I love Kolonie Sataki again. This is

846
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,679
not indicative of like an overall program decline. It's just

847
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,719
an indicative of terrible timing at the most important position

848
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,840
on the field. Jake Rhetzloff left the school after violating

849
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,559
the Schools on Our code. So this is a guy

850
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:02,800
that on the field was steady. He was a good

851
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,760
leader for them from last year. They believed in him,

852
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,159
and now all of a sudden, you lose your quarterback

853
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,079
and the three man battle has had no time to develop.

854
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,800
What do they got McKay Hillstead He's got four career

855
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,159
starts at Utah State. He's a dual threat guy. They've

856
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:21,639
got traycon Borgay eight career starts at Western Michigan, and

857
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:25,480
then a true freshman, Bear Brockmeyer. He enrolled at Stanford

858
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:28,559
in January, but transferred after Troy Taylor was fired, so

859
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:31,280
he's been there a short time. So in total, they

860
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,960
have twelve total quarterback starts at the college level and

861
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:38,559
zero at the power flour level. That's tough. It's really

862
00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:42,000
tough to overcome that they're replacing eight starters. On defense

863
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,480
that was a defense that was excellent last year. The

864
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:46,920
schedule isn't bad, but it's again just like all the

865
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,519
other Big twelve schedules. You're facing a bunch of teams

866
00:40:49,559 --> 00:40:51,519
with similar talent, and you're probably going to be in

867
00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:54,400
a one score game with a quarterback that has no experience.

868
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,559
So again, not indicative of where this program is at.

869
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,320
Over All, I love Kalone set everything he stands for

870
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,000
and represents. I like this program, but for twenty twenty five,

871
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,639
this is an easy sell BYU is on the cell list.

872
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 4: Easy sell, Joe, what about now? Easy sell? Still again,

873
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,800
a lot of football left to be played, but easy sell,

874
00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:18,800
I think not. Do you name that movie? Can you

875
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,400
name that movie? Incredible?

876
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 9: Ah?

877
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 4: My guy, appreciate you knowing. Let's get it out love.

878
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:26,639
I love that you got that. Let's get it But no,

879
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,760
I think not like and I'm mad.

880
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 7: And the reason why I get mad at that is

881
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,920
because guys, the national media is not always right, just

882
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,920
because they get paid the big bucks and things, and

883
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,599
people are gonna think I'm taking a shot at them.

884
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 4: I don't care.

885
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:37,599
Speaker 5: Like.

886
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:40,599
Speaker 7: You have to understand that they can't get everything right.

887
00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:44,039
They're human too, they can't predict everything. No one thought that.

888
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:46,519
By you, I thought they'd be eight and four right,

889
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,960
But no one thought that they'd be this good whether

890
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:51,239
at they thought they knew and he said there was

891
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,719
no quarterback, that it was an easy sale. Okay, well

892
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,360
guess what did you think? Did you think about Bear?

893
00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:59,559
I mean, let's be real. Though Bear has been exceeded

894
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:00,280
or ext.

895
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:02,639
Speaker 4: You're not wrong about that.

896
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,159
Speaker 11: My issue with Joel Klatt's take is when you make

897
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,559
a take like that, what you're insinuating is that Jake

898
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:14,000
Retsloff was essentially the Heisman Trophy candidate for you, that

899
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:16,920
he carried a bad football team with a bad defense

900
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,360
and bad coaching and a bad offensive line and no

901
00:42:19,519 --> 00:42:22,320
receivers and no running backs, so that if they lost him,

902
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,400
ninety percent of their production was gone.

903
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,039
Speaker 4: I agree, it's a good point. It's a good take.

904
00:42:26,159 --> 00:42:29,119
Speaker 11: I don't want to just trash Jake Redsloft because he

905
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:29,800
did a lot of.

906
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 4: Really good things.

907
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:35,519
Speaker 11: For carried him sometimes when he had a propensity to

908
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:38,400
turn the football over, the defense had to carry him.

909
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,599
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you this. You turned the football over

910
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,840
in the Arizona game. You don't win that game.

911
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 11: You turned the football over in the Utah game, you

912
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,519
don't win that football game.

913
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 4: You turned the football over this last week.

914
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 11: You don't win that football game, and Jake Retzoff had

915
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,000
a propensity last year to turn the football over. Now

916
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,679
this year, let's give Jake his flowers. He's been better

917
00:42:57,079 --> 00:43:01,079
about turning the football over. Yes, But my issue with

918
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:04,400
Joel Clatt's sake is, Okay, dude, it's easy to pile

919
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:07,679
on the school who lost their starting quarterback and saying, oh,

920
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,440
they're not gonna be as good as they were last year. Yeah,

921
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,800
give me something more nuanced. The problem I have with

922
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,000
the take is that he's insinutting that the defense wasn't good,

923
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,760
that the offensive line wasn't good, that the running back

924
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,639
and skills positions weren't good, and that Byu was carried

925
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,440
by Jake Rudsloft. Where I think what the reality was

926
00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:26,559
is that this was a full team effort last year,

927
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:28,920
and at no point other than a couple fourth quarter

928
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:31,840
drives did Jake Rudsloff have to purely carry the team

929
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,679
on his back. And in some instances, as you mentioned,

930
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,159
Jake Rutzloff turned the ball over and the defense had

931
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:39,920
to put him back in position to go down and

932
00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:45,000
win the game. So, yes, Joel was by you projected

933
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:47,960
to do less because they lost the starting quarterback. Yes,

934
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:51,920
was the sky falling because they lost the starting quarterback? No,

935
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:55,480
because the defense, the coaches, offensive line, and skill positions

936
00:43:55,679 --> 00:43:56,559
were all still there.

937
00:43:56,599 --> 00:43:57,599
Speaker 4: And you're seeing that.

938
00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:01,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, you bring up a very good point of they

939
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:03,599
saw that, and this is our job is to say

940
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:06,320
what we see, right, like, Okay, this guy's falling. Lets

941
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,400
see what comes out. And you really can't judge a

942
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,639
team until non conference. And again, it was a it

943
00:44:10,679 --> 00:44:12,400
was a knee jerk reaction. It was a new jerk

944
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,920
reaction by everybody of Okay.

945
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,159
Speaker 4: And honestly, can I have a roll with you?

946
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:16,559
Speaker 2: Yeah?

947
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 4: It might be a content reaction.

948
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,599
Speaker 11: And I say this is someone who makes part of

949
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making content is and I hate to say this, but

950
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,559
anyone who makes content knows what I'm saying.

951
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: It's true. You need to get a reaction out of people.

952
00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:35,159
Speaker 11: And I think anytime you can target a fan base,

953
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,840
that fan base will rise up, they react, they interact

954
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,679
with your content, then your content explodes. So do I

955
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,119
think Joe Klott's disingenuous? No? But do I also think

956
00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:50,199
he knew that if he sold BYU that he might

957
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,920
be able to get a good reaction and might be

958
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,599
able to get good views on his content.

959
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 4: Abe, Yeah, you bring up a very good point.

960
00:44:57,519 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 7: And look, I went back and I did some numbers

961
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because I want to know, because we had this discussion

962
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:02,400
that said.

963
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 4: We wouldn't really be able to know to the end

964
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,280
of the season. And I went back and I just

965
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,360
did it during this segment.

966
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,119
Speaker 7: I've got some numbers for you, and I think fans

967
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:12,480
are really going to like these numbers in that regard

968
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:14,599
of Okay, did you upgrade at quarterback?

969
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,119
Speaker 4: We're gonna find out right now.

970
00:45:16,159 --> 00:45:18,599
Speaker 7: So, Jake retz Lav this is through eight games, so

971
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,239
Bear has only thrown what three interceptions? Well, let me

972
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,320
tell you what Jake did three eight games. He was

973
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,199
eighteen touchdowns, seven interceptions. He threw for one than six

974
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,400
hundred and fifty four yards three hundred three rushing yards

975
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:32,840
on the ground, and had three touchdowns. So he had

976
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,920
twenty one total touchdowns and he had just about what

977
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,880
almost close to two thousand yards of total offense. There

978
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,639
you go, Bear, mind you true freshman. This season, Bear

979
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,199
has thrown for one thousand, six hundred and ninety three

980
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,400
yards so just about seventeen hundred, has thrown eleven touchdowns,

981
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,639
only has three i in ts, has four hundred eight

982
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,239
rushing yards and has nine total and has nine touchdowns

983
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,000
on the ground. So n excuse me, twenty total touchdown

984
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,159
for Bear, one less than Jake, but has thrown for

985
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,599
a few what probably about sixty more yards, but also's

986
00:46:08,639 --> 00:46:11,639
turned the ball over four less time, saying guess what, guys,

987
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,039
I'm not even counting Jake Redsloff's fumble turnovers in that

988
00:46:15,159 --> 00:46:16,840
regard to I didn't even do that, so we might

989
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,559
have to add that into the mix. I won't give

990
00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:20,559
a declarative number because I don't have that. So there

991
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:22,639
you go, so almost about the same. So you still

992
00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:23,960
don't know if you have grad until you get to

993
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,199
the end of season. But I bring that point up

994
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,880
to validate my point of ye gee, like, did you

995
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:33,159
like think about that? So to agree of your point

996
00:46:33,199 --> 00:46:35,400
of the defense keeping them in games? Okay, you can

997
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,599
make that argument about Bear, but as Bear turned the

998
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:39,280
football over, right, and that's.

999
00:46:39,079 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 11: What we're talking about, because that's four drives killed by

1000
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,880
Jake Retzloffs, more so Jake would than what Bear Bachmeyer

1001
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,199
has done. And again, like I said earlier, if you

1002
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,800
turn the football over for if you turn the football

1003
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,639
over one time, Arizona, you lose that game. You turned

1004
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:57,360
the football over more at one more time. At Colorado,

1005
00:46:57,559 --> 00:46:59,519
you lose the game, you turned the football over one

1006
00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:01,079
more time. You tell you lose the game, and you

1007
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:03,159
turn the ball over one more time, I would say

1008
00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:06,039
you absolutely lose the game. So that's I mean, that's

1009
00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:09,159
four games that you probably would have lost if Jake

1010
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,000
was turning, if Bear was turning the ball over at

1011
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:14,760
the rate that Jake is. Again, Jake has improved this year.

1012
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,719
So we're comparing this year's Bear to last year's Jake.

1013
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,400
If you're comparing this year's Bear to this year's Jake,

1014
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,159
which is really what we're talking about, because we're saying

1015
00:47:23,159 --> 00:47:25,800
what would Jake, what would Jake have been this year

1016
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,840
compared to what Bear is. I still think it's closer,

1017
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,639
but certainly Byu looked like an easy sell to Joe

1018
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,840
Lye and now is sitting in top ten one hundred.

1019
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 7: Okay, let's go ahead and play the last clip. There's

1020
00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:40,280
a little bit of discussion. No, we're going along with

1021
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,480
this Cougar Bytes segment about Boa. The second one, Joe

1022
00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:47,159
Clatt talked about expanding the college football playoff format to

1023
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,000
twenty four team a twenty fourteen bracket, you know, in

1024
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:52,239
the end of the season projection.

1025
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 4: Let's listen in let's see where bo you would fall

1026
00:47:54,559 --> 00:47:55,199
in the wink of our.

1027
00:47:55,199 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 10: Thoughts for team college football playoff model, the top four conferences,

1028
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,239
the Power four conferences. From each of the Power four conferences,

1029
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,760
four teams would get automatic berths. Eighteen of the twenty

1030
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,000
four are automatic qualif fires and the six at large spots,

1031
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:15,760
so we still get a little bit of committee. What

1032
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,880
would it look like this year based on the current

1033
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:23,639
standings in each conference and also where the AP poll is.

1034
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,800
So in the Big Ten, the automatic qualifiers at this

1035
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:30,480
juncture would be Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon, and then Illinois.

1036
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:32,119
They would be kind of the top four of the

1037
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,800
standings and get those automatic access spots.

1038
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,039
Speaker 4: Now we move on, so the SEC would look like this.

1039
00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:40,119
Speaker 10: The automatic qualifiers would be Texas A and M Bama,

1040
00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:43,320
Georgia and Ole miss Group of six and Notre Dame.

1041
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,679
The automatic qualifiers would be South Florida and two Lane.

1042
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 4: They would be the top group of six teams.

1043
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,039
Speaker 10: Notre Dame would be getting it at large, and then

1044
00:48:52,159 --> 00:48:54,719
in the hunt we would have Navy, Memphis, Santigo, State,

1045
00:48:55,199 --> 00:48:59,840
North Texas, James Madison, UNLV, and Boise State number one.

1046
00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:03,000
The asterisks are those teams that are getting in with

1047
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,559
at large spots, So those at large spots are Mazoo, Vanderbilt,

1048
00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:12,840
Notre Dame, Oklahoma, LSU, Tennessee. Now the bottom teams in

1049
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,119
these first round matchups, which are also highlighted in white,

1050
00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:18,880
those are the home teams. Another huge point to this

1051
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,280
model that they're discussing right now is that both the

1052
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,679
first round and the second round would be on campus,

1053
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,760
and this model there'd be eight teams that get first

1054
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,400
round buys and be moving into that second round position.

1055
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,159
Let's talk about some of the pros here of what's

1056
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,639
going on, and you guys know that I feel this way.

1057
00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:40,599
Number one, any change to the playoff in any form,

1058
00:49:41,159 --> 00:49:45,320
I think really needs to minimize the committee and create

1059
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,039
better roads of access rather than selection.

1060
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,639
Speaker 4: So with the selection being moved down.

1061
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:56,679
Speaker 10: Into those six picks and getting eighteen defined paths for

1062
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,039
teams to have access to the playoff, I think would

1063
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,840
be a quality thing. I think that you need to

1064
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,320
increase the valuable regular season games, both in the non

1065
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,920
conference and in the conference, So you need to make

1066
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,360
conference games more valuable. Well, you do that by increasing

1067
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,400
the value of finishing in the top four in these

1068
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,119
Power four conferences. I think that you need to increase

1069
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:21,880
the desirability of big, strong matchups in the non conference.

1070
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 4: That's something that we need to do.

1071
00:50:23,519 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 10: You need to engage more fan bases, and then you

1072
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:28,039
need to get more games on campus.

1073
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 4: There's Joe cladd on the matter.

1074
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 5: Now.

1075
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 7: I do agree with Joe in the last four things

1076
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,039
that he said. I think those are all true in

1077
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:39,519
that regarded. Just to give people a kind of a

1078
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:43,000
where would by you be at the four big twelve

1079
00:50:43,039 --> 00:50:44,480
teams that would get in BA, you would be the

1080
00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:47,000
highest rank right now currently if you need to today

1081
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,760
BAU is eleventh. That would take on my Illinois finding

1082
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,679
the line ninth. It'd be a tough game for the

1083
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,800
heart Obviously, I pick BA. You don't win an that

1084
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,719
one because again those teams host at home. In that regard,

1085
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,239
I think the first two rounds is what they're talking

1086
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,960
about there, frosted home. So BAU would be Illinois would

1087
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,719
go on to play number six Oregan and would that'd

1088
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,079
be a revenge game for BYU after what happened a

1089
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:10,000
couple of years ago when they didn't get the dub

1090
00:51:10,119 --> 00:51:13,079
up there and with those chants that happened. It's funny

1091
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:15,119
how things always come back to the chance. Second team

1092
00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:17,599
would be Texas Tech. They'd be number fourteen, they would

1093
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:21,159
host Louisville, and then you'd have number twenty three Arizona State.

1094
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:23,239
They would go excuse me, twenty one Cincinnati would go

1095
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,199
on the road to number twelve nor to Dame, and

1096
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,400
the number twenty three Arizona State would travel to number

1097
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:29,920
ten Vanderbilt.

1098
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 4: So those would be your four Big twelve teams.

1099
00:51:31,639 --> 00:51:33,159
Speaker 7: That is what it would expand to if you went

1100
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:36,599
the top four teams from every conference, Big Power for

1101
00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:40,920
Big ten, ACC SEC, and obviously you'd get your Group

1102
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,199
of five and ACC in there as well as So

1103
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,280
that's how all of those would play out.

1104
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 11: I didn't hear him, But in this model, do they

1105
00:51:48,119 --> 00:51:49,920
still have conference championships?

1106
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,559
Speaker 4: That's a good question. I don't know. That's a good question.

1107
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 11: If I'm being real, I don't see the need for

1108
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,679
a conference championship.

1109
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,039
Speaker 4: Well, I think I think that's what they're trying to

1110
00:51:58,039 --> 00:51:58,440
get rid of.

1111
00:51:58,519 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 11: So yes, that would add it because and if you

1112
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,599
have four automatic qualifiers, I guess maybe winning the conference

1113
00:52:03,679 --> 00:52:07,000
championship guarantees you a first round by and if that's

1114
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:09,000
the case, then I'm good with that, because you couldn't

1115
00:52:09,039 --> 00:52:11,360
lose the conference championship and then fall out of being

1116
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,679
a top four qualifying team.

1117
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 4: So I'm good with that.

1118
00:52:15,199 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 11: If you want to play for an automatic qualifier, I

1119
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,760
actually if that's the case, then I'm good with this model. However,

1120
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:25,840
if you're gonna make the postseason this much longer, I

1121
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,280
do think you need to cut some regular season games.

1122
00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:31,159
But let's be honest, I think everybody would be here

1123
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,320
for this model and get rid of the cupcake game

1124
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,519
on the schedule.

1125
00:52:35,519 --> 00:52:36,559
Speaker 4: Like I'm good with Hick.

1126
00:52:37,519 --> 00:52:40,559
Speaker 7: Earlier, Remember we had discussed that everybody plays somebody from

1127
00:52:40,639 --> 00:52:41,400
a power conference.

1128
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 4: I'm with you. I'm good with that.

1129
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 3: Now.

1130
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 11: I do understand there's money making involved in this, and

1131
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,679
so that's how the FCS schools.

1132
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 4: Make a lot of their money just by playing these teams.

1133
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,039
Speaker 11: But I actually really like this model, especially if you

1134
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:55,599
were just talking about getting rid of a conference championship.

1135
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,599
The top four teams from each conference get an automatic qualifier,

1136
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:00,199
and then you figure everything else out.

1137
00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:03,159
Speaker 4: I actually think this makes so much sense. It's ironic.

1138
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 11: Coming from Joel Clatt, because once again this is a

1139
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,320
guy who said we should never expand.

1140
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,119
Speaker 4: Past the fourteen playoff.

1141
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 11: I've heard him also say we should never expand plast

1142
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:12,039
to the twelve team playoff.

1143
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 4: But lo and behold, we know Joel Clatt. He comes

1144
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:17,360
around on some things BYU being one of those.

1145
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 11: So the again, guy who didn't love expanding playoffs is

1146
00:53:21,559 --> 00:53:24,079
now setting up the discussion for a twenty four team.

1147
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,440
I'm good with this. And like I've always said, you

1148
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:31,280
don't jump from a BCS national. You don't jump from

1149
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,719
a BCS title to twenty four teams. You had to

1150
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,639
slowly move your way. You go from two teams to

1151
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,400
four teams, four teams to twelve teams, twelve teams to

1152
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,199
twenty four teams.

1153
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,079
Speaker 4: I'm good with all of that. I love this model.

1154
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 11: Can you imagine for a second with me, Ron, Just everyone,

1155
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,000
if you're listening, just close your eyes and just visualized.

1156
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,119
Speaker 4: Not if you're driving, please visualizing.

1157
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 11: Can you imagine snow is up on the mountains, the

1158
00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:56,000
snow is coming down on the Vell Edwards Stadium, and

1159
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,440
b why you was hosting a playoff game one of

1160
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:04,039
the most scenic venues in all of college football Christmas

1161
00:54:04,199 --> 00:54:06,400
is either just passed or right around the season.

1162
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 7: Oh my cougars and c celebris. Oh yeah, I'm trying

1163
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,280
to Oh my good Yeah, I can imagine that. Yeah,

1164
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:13,920
that'd be nice.

1165
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 4: Man. And it's and it's snowy.

1166
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 11: So so we're sitting out there and we're tailgating, we're

1167
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,719
doing little bills, mafia jumping off my car through a table.

1168
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,679
This is just me just going off on a tangent

1169
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,639
at this point, But I just think that, like that

1170
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,239
would be incredible. I think a twelve team, a twenty

1171
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,199
fourteen playoff would make a ton of sense.

1172
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,559
Speaker 4: And then obviously how you finishing the top depends on

1173
00:54:34,639 --> 00:54:37,199
how you qualify. But good take from Joe Clotte.

1174
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 7: Are you in favor of expanding the college football playoff

1175
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,320
to twenty four teams? The top four teams from each

1176
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conference get in?

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 7: I will say this from a Big twelve grand standpoint,

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to give you four three better opportunities to expand the

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brand and say, hey, look, the Big twelve matters. Some

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people are gonna hate it because it be like more

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football games for Bau's sake, and just how much parody

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there is in the Big twelve and that only potentially

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one and if not two teams get in if you

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were to go away from conference championships.

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Speaker 4: Right, I am personally okay with this. I do believe

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this though.

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Speaker 7: That means, in my opinion, if you're gonna do the

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top four, the top team in that conference is the

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automatic champion, then you still give them a wat you

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just you don't hold that and do that, which what

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the Big twelve did, if you see years ago, obsolutely

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was Hey, you finished the top of the conference, you're

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the champion.

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Speaker 4: We're not playing the game for it.

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Speaker 11: And if this is the model you're moving towards, I

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think you could get rid of it because I think

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losing in that game doesn't really matter. But I think

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people would hold it against you. Oh you lost in

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your conference championship. It's like, yeah, but we're going to

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the playoffs though it doesn't really matter. And then what

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if you lose in your conference championship and then you

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lose a tie breaker because you have all those things.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, I'm good. I think that makes a

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lot of sense. It doesn't make a lot of sense, guys. Guys,

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Well that was your little Cougar bytes segment. Did a

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lot of explanation. They're kind of some college not kind

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of some college football. They're in the mix as well

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regarding BOU. But I just think that's funny. He sold

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b a earlier now in his top ten, gave a

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little shortened yeah, they got these wins, and then moved

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on from it and then harps on everybody else. I

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just think it's funny. But I don't believe BA you

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should be tied for tenth. I believe BA you should

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