WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.400 Good evening and welcome to another edition of The Cajun 2 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:14.279 Night Live. I am your host, the Cajun Knight, Jacob 3 00:00:14.359 --> 00:00:16.719 Mook and Man. We got a lot of things to 4 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:19.359 talk about here. We're gonna be talking about some geopolitical 5 00:00:19.399 --> 00:00:21.359 We're gonna be talking about some dose. We're gonna be 6 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:24.320 talking about some Russia. We're gonna be talking about some 7 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:28.000 American controversy going on, not just Doze but also within 8 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:31.960 our own defense administration. We're gonna be talking about some 9 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:36.079 cryptocurrency heights from North Korea. We're gonna be talking about 10 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:39.840 some crazy anthropological things. We got all kinds of stuff 11 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:42.439 to talk about here. But first, I would like to 12 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:44.920 thank everybody for joining me on this evening and to 13 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:48.119 anybody listening to this show on the following day, on Thursday, 14 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:49.640 as a matter of fact, or whatever day of the 15 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:52.000 week you happen to find this episode. If you would 16 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:54.359 like to join into this conversation and be a part 17 00:00:54.399 --> 00:00:56.560 of The Cajun Night Live, then please come check out 18 00:00:56.640 --> 00:01:00.000 the Cajun Night on Patreon. Link is in the description below. 19 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:03.640 There there's only one tier. He'll be able to join 20 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:07.400 in and share things add into the conversation. Or banter 21 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:09.719 back and forth, maybe debate some of the topics you've 22 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:11.799 heard brought up, and maybe you disagree with some of 23 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:13.519 the things, Hey, bring it on. We would like to 24 00:01:13.519 --> 00:01:16.599 discuss these things in this open forum. There is no 25 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:19.200 hatred here. There is only the sharing of ideas and 26 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:22.640 hopefully a tad bit of growth from all parties involved. 27 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:25.959 At least that's the goal anyway. So with that being said, 28 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:28.840 let's go ahead. I'm gonna share the scream and I 29 00:01:28.879 --> 00:01:32.480 wanted to kick off with this first. Uh well this 30 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:36.719 really first talking point. That's not the one, all right. 31 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:39.480 So I don't know if anybody heard about this yet 32 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:42.239 or not. I'm sure most of my good following on 33 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:45.840 the Cage to Night has, but the Trump administration is 34 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:50.680 facing backlash from the Signal security breach. Now we have 35 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:53.040 another article that pulled up right after this, but this 36 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:54.640 is gonna kind of give it the quick and dirty 37 00:01:54.680 --> 00:01:58.719 of it if anybody is unaware. Long story short, there 38 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:02.000 was a Signal group. Signal was an app and it's 39 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:04.680 used because it's encrypted on both ends, and that's why 40 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:06.920 it's seen as quote unquote secure, even though we all 41 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:08.680 know if it's on the Internet, it's not secure. That's 42 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:13.159 just the way it goes. But basically, some very key 43 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:18.080 members of our heads of state, vice president, head of 44 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:21.680 the NSA, head of the God these things were in 45 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:24.759 this group chat and they were discussing plans to attack 46 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:28.439 Hoothy Rebels, which we support here on the Cage to Night. 47 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:31.000 We really are not fans of the Hoothy Rebels. But 48 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:36.639 long story short, they accidentally added in a really high 49 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:42.960 up editor of a journalism post, The Atlantic, mister Goldberg, 50 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:46.319 I know, I know c the Jewish hate already. I 51 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:49.639 can hear it from the ether coming through. But anyway, look, 52 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:51.639 let's go ahead and play this quick little video about it, 53 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:53.319 and then we'll read the article. Y'all tell me what 54 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:53.840 y'all think. 55 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:58.680 Broken windows and shattered glass could be seen in the 56 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:02.240 aftermath of US strikes on the Hooties in Yemen, but 57 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:06.159 more focus is being put on the fallout from details 58 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:10.319 of the attack being mistakenly shared in advance with a journalist. 59 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:16.039 Atlantic editor, Jeffrey Goldberg says National Security Advisor Mike Waltz 60 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:19.319 added him to a group chat on the Signal app 61 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:22.000 with other key members of the Trump administration. 62 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:24.199 All right, real quick, I'm going to read off. And 63 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:26.479 this is not the entire list of the people whose 64 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:30.039 names were in this group chat. This is, however, some 65 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:32.120 of them maybe you've heard of them. Mike Walls, that 66 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:35.560 would be the National Security Advisor. Jd Vance that would 67 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:39.680 be our VP, Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, Pete hegseef's 68 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:44.919 Defense Secretary, John Ratcliffe, the CIA director, Sulci Gabbert, director 69 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:48.599 of National Intelligence, and Steven Miller, the deputy of White 70 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:51.919 House Chief of Staff. All of them and more were 71 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:55.360 in this group chat and it accidentally got leaked because 72 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:59.039 this dude with the Atlantic accidentally got added to it 73 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:01.439 and just kind of sat silently and watched it all. 74 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:03.280 But we continue jin. 75 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:04.240 It's embarrassing. 76 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:06.560 Yes, we're going to get to the bottom of it. 77 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:11.039 Waltz took full responsibility, but says it had no impact 78 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:14.599 on the actual attack in Yemen. We made a mistake. 79 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:18.399 We're moving forward, and we're going to continue to knock 80 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:20.959 it out of the park for this president. President Trump 81 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:24.759 is defending Waltz and saying that his National security advisor 82 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:26.240 would not be fired. 83 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:29.720 No, I don't think he should apologize. 84 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:31.839 But Democrats are not ready to give the top national 85 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:36.319 security officials a pass, arguing the messages could have put 86 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:39.279 American lives at risk if they were seen by the 87 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:42.680 wrong people. The problem with mistakes when bombs are flying 88 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:45.439 and pilots are piloting F eighteen's and F thirty five 89 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:49.680 over dangerous territory is that a mistake gets people killed. Today, 90 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:53.439 House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries wrote President Trump a letter 91 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:56.879 saying Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth should resign. 92 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:02.639 Okay, so before we get into the the people that 93 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:04.519 are just kind of going over the top with it, 94 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:09.720 I will say this. Pete Hegseth released a statement on 95 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:15.160 the UH on the issue, basically calling the Atlantic editor 96 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:20.720 or the the whatever executive mister Goldberg called him a 97 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:24.959 professional liar who has made a career out of spouting 98 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:30.800 hoaxes and misinformation and all of these things. And while 99 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:33.680 that may be true, that there may be some truth 100 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:36.839 to the statements being made by our boy Hegseeth, that 101 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:40.879 doesn't detract from the fact that what he saw with 102 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:44.199 this group chat was verified, true information and all of 103 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:47.000 those people on the list were absolutely in this list 104 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:50.759 and UH and so basically, and I saw a couple 105 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:52.360 of interviews and I wanted to pull them up, but 106 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:56.639 they're they're very long winded in the uh the MSNBC 107 00:05:57.199 --> 00:05:59.839 reporter that was talking to mister Goldberg, if anybody wants 108 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:02.319 to look it up, it there's videos galore. He's been 109 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:05.800 making his rounds on all the big mainstream media news 110 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:09.279 outlets talking about it. Essentially, there was and I forget 111 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:12.600 who the other guy was, but JG. There is another 112 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:16.839 head of a department with the initials JG. And they're 113 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:20.639 thinking that Marco Rubio might have accidentally added this JG 114 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:23.920 rather than the correct JG. He got added to the 115 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:27.000 chat and didn't contribute anything to the conversation. He just 116 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:30.560 sat in the background quietly and just whatever. They even 117 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:33.519 asked for verification from everybody to like make sure that 118 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:35.240 everything was on the up and up, and I guess 119 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:39.839 decided to just continue on with the conversation even without 120 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:44.600 all the verifications, but whatever, whatever. And they were talking 121 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:49.480 about specific times and specific locations that would be struck 122 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:53.639 in Yemen to attack Hoothy's. Now, mister Goldberg is not 123 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:55.959 exactly a fan of the Hoothy rebels, so I mean, 124 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:59.040 he didn't really say anything about it, and he also 125 00:06:59.079 --> 00:07:01.160 didn't know if this was more of a planning chat 126 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:04.879 or if this was an execution style chat. And then 127 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:08.680 when he saw certain strikes being made at the correct 128 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:12.040 times and at the correct locations that were being discussed 129 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:15.279 in this chat, that's when he realized, Okay, no, this 130 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:18.680 is not a this is not a hypothetical conversation. This 131 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:21.319 is a real planning chat that I just got added to. 132 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:25.040 So he decided to publish it, not all of it, obviously, 133 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:28.120 he did for national security reasons. He was he even 134 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:30.800 said that he was going to be responsible and not 135 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:34.279 release anything that was like yet to happen, but the 136 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:38.399 attacks that did take place already, he felt comfortable releasing 137 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:43.160 that information. And the big push right now is saying 138 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:47.439 that this is just a gross incompetence from our current 139 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:51.399 administration that they really didn't even make sure and verify 140 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:54.439 that everybody in attendance was who they were supposed to 141 00:07:54.480 --> 00:08:02.639 be before they discussed some you know, clearly highly classified conversations. Right, 142 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:05.920 this is a serious breach of OPSEC and that's something 143 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:07.839 that we've heard a lot of people talk about in 144 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:10.959 today as this whole thing is being brought to light. 145 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:14.120 And while that's true, I mean, it's not like the houthies. 146 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:16.759 Really we're gonna do anything with that information. Even if 147 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:19.000 it did get released to them. They're not you know, 148 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:21.839 they're not going nowhere. They're kind of locked in where 149 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:24.319 they're at. But I digress. Anyway, Let's go ahead and 150 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:26.360 read this article. It is from NBC, so take it 151 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:28.199 with a grain of salt. I understand that it is 152 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:32.279 going to probably just blast our current administration and all 153 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:32.840 these things. 154 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:33.840 But the. 155 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:37.519 Truth is the truth on this one, it says. The 156 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:40.720 Atlantic on Wednesday published a transcript of text messages showing 157 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:45.120 that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth detailed US military attack plans 158 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:48.679 in Yemen in a Signal group chat that inadvertently included 159 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:52.240 the magazine's editor in chief, Jeffrey Goldberg. In an article 160 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:55.840 titled here are the attack plans that Trump advisors shared 161 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:59.240 on Signal, Goldberg quoted from the text in which hex 162 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:03.639 Seth sified types of US military aircrafts and the timing 163 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:06.440 of recent air strikes against Huthy militias and Yemen. The 164 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:10.240 text did not include information about specific targets. Uh. This 165 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:12.039 is a direct quote from one of them, he says, 166 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:16.840 Uh one two, one, five, et f eighteen's launch first 167 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:19.799 strike package. One of the texts says, referring to a 168 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:23.360 type of military aircraft, UH, thirteen forty five. Actually I 169 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:26.240 believe those are times, So twelve to fifteen Eastern Standard time, 170 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:30.360 thirteen forty five trigger based F eighteen first strike windows 171 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:33.960 starts to target terrorist is at his known location, so 172 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:38.200 should be on time. Also strike drones launch m Q nine's. 173 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:42.399 So like this was an actual technical play by play 174 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:44.200 of what they were about to do and why and 175 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:46.919 all of this stuff. So I mean, A, I'm glad 176 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:49.039 that the heads of state are communicating these things in 177 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:52.840 that way. B. I'm not happy that an editor in 178 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:56.879 chief of a traditionally very liberal news outlet was a 179 00:09:56.879 --> 00:09:59.919 part of this conversation. And see I'm not happy that 180 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:01.840 they didn't verify all of the people. But neither hear 181 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:05.159 nor there. Goldberg and Shane Harris, a national security and 182 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:08.720 intelligence reporter at the Atlantic, published the latest article a 183 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:12.000 day after President Donald Trump's administration tried to downplay the 184 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:15.799 magazine's first report about the signal threat. Asked about the 185 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:19.919 matter Tuesday, Trump said it wasn't classified information. Hex Set, 186 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:22.720 speaking to reporters on Monday, said, in part nobody was 187 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:26.000 texting war plans. That's a direct quote from him. As 188 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:28.000 a matter of fact, he hex Seth has said that 189 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:29.600 to a couple of different cameras that had been in 190 00:10:29.639 --> 00:10:32.279 his face, like nobody was texting war plans. It wasn't 191 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:38.039 anything like that. This wasn't classified information. I understand you 192 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:41.399 trying to save face, but you it's also very possible 193 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:44.759 that you got caught slipping on this one. And I'm 194 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:47.600 a fan of heg Seth. I am don't don't don't 195 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:49.159 make it, you know, don't get it twisted like I'm 196 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:51.720 over here trying to shit on him. I'm not. This 197 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:54.960 was a little bit of a breach though. Somebody, somebody 198 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:57.440 dropped the ball here. We can just be adults to 199 00:10:57.480 --> 00:11:00.919 acknowledge that. But the administration is doing that. If anything, 200 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:03.399 they're doubling and tripling down on the fact that it's 201 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:06.559 not what it looks like, which I guess you gotta 202 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:09.879 say face where you can. On Wednesday, Trump was left 203 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:13.600 less definitive. Asked by reporters in the Oval Office if 204 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.639 he still believes nothing classified was shared, Trump responded, that's 205 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:18.840 what I've heard. I don't know. I'm not sure. You 206 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:21.559 have to ask the various people involved, I really don't know. Yeah. 207 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:22.879 For the record, Trump was not a part of this 208 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:25.440 group chat. Jd Vance was, but Trump himself was not. 209 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:29.279 In a testimony at a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing Tuesday, 210 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:33.440 National Intelligence Director Tulsa Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe 211 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:36.159 both claimed no classified material was shared in the group chat. 212 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:39.559 Ratcliffe said his communications in the Signal Message group were 213 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:43.159 entirely permissible and lawful and did not include classified information. 214 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:46.639 The intelligence officials both testified Tuesday that Hegseth was the 215 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:51.919 quote original classifying authority on the chat. Goldberg and Harris 216 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:54.320 wrote in the article published Wednesday that these statements by 217 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:57.840 heg Seth, Gabbard, Ratcliffe, and Trump, combined with the assertions 218 00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:01.399 made by numerous administration officials that we are lying about 219 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:03.919 the content of the signal text, have led us to 220 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:05.840 believe that people should see the text in order to 221 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.639 reach their own conclusions. So this is the other. This 222 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:11.399 is one of the there's a picture right here. As 223 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:13.120 a matter of fact, if anybody wants to see this again, 224 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:14.600 it will be the video will be up on the 225 00:12:14.600 --> 00:12:17.679 Cajun Night on Patreon. But it says jd Vance was 226 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:21.000 like what Mike Walls says, typing too fast. The first 227 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:24.039 target their top missile guy. We had positive idea on 228 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:27.720 him walking into his girlfriend's building and it's now collapsed. 229 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:32.120 Jdvance responds, excellent. Mike Walls responded with a fist American 230 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:34.840 flag fire p P pure. I like it. I like 231 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:38.879 these things. But either way, there's a direct quote from 232 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:42.720 Goldberg and Harris. There's a clear public interest in disclosing 233 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:46.519 the sort of information that Trump advisors included in non 234 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:50.919 secure communication channels, especially because senior administration figures are attempting 235 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:54.039 to downplay the significance of the messages that were shared. 236 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:58.159 Information about the upcoming US military attack on an adversary 237 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:01.080 is typically considered to be classified, according to at least 238 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:05.080 four former national security and intelligence officials who had handled 239 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:08.919 legal matters. The former officials did not know anything specific 240 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:11.240 about the status of the information in the signal chat, 241 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:13.480 but they said it would be difficult to imagine a 242 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.799 scenario in which details of the military operations would not 243 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:21.799 be treated as secret and damaging if disclosed. I tend 244 00:13:21.799 --> 00:13:26.120 to agree with that personally, but anyway, so that is 245 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:30.080 the overall gist of it now, as I said, this 246 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:33.200 did not detract or take away from the attacks that 247 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:36.039 took place. They still want all without a hitch. The 248 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:40.120 targets were hit and to the knowledge of everybody that 249 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:42.679 you know, quote unquote matters or is in the know, 250 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:45.399 the people that got attacked and were supposed to be 251 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:49.799 hit got hit. Like it was very successful top to 252 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:53.200 bottom here. And I do not know. I don't know 253 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:56.360 if there was any civilian casualties that were hit as 254 00:13:56.360 --> 00:13:59.480 a you know, innocent biastandard to it. I don't know 255 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:02.279 if it was a one hundred percent success rate or 256 00:14:02.279 --> 00:14:05.600 whatever the case was. But what we do know is 257 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:09.039 that the top guys they wanted got got got So 258 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:13.120 I'm taking that as a all around w However, it's 259 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:15.159 gonna take a little bit of time to let this 260 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:17.240 one blow over to save face, and for the love 261 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:21.120 of God, they need to start verifying their their participants 262 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:24.919 in the chat. But anyway, uh, let's see here, We're 263 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:28.799 gonna some people in the chats have put in some 264 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:34.960 things here. Let's see Raven says, how uh, Anthony says 265 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:38.840 accidentally got added and leaked. I have to think it 266 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:41.679 was an accident because there was another JG in God 267 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:44.440 I wish I could remember the guy's name. But there 268 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:47.120 was another JG that was supposed to be added to 269 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:50.879 that chat. But like, bro, how do you how do 270 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:54.200 you mistake the guy you're looking for with this dude, 271 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:59.000 Jeffrey Goldberg. It might be it might be Tony. I 272 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:01.759 think you might be onto something Jeffrey Goldberg. Maybe what 273 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:03.600 position does he hold? I forget off the top of 274 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:04.039 my head. 275 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:07.879 But he's an editor at the Atlantic magazine. 276 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:11.639 No, no, no, no, he But there is a JG that 277 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:14.600 currently holds a seat of power in America right now. 278 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:17.000 I'm not sure which department he's ahead of, or a 279 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:19.639 director of or a secretary of something along those lines. 280 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:21.679 But there was another JG that they were trying to 281 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:26.000 add to the chat, and they accidentally added John Goldberg 282 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:28.320 or jeff Goldberg where his name is? But yeah, that 283 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:32.679 was a big misstep. And again this is I doubt 284 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:34.919 that this was supposed to happen, like there was a 285 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:39.720 quote unquote accident. I believe it actually really was a 286 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:45.000 genuine accident, and thankfully it got corrected and thankfully it 287 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:47.559 didn't get in the way of the attacks as they 288 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:51.720 were supposed to happen. But my god, I mean talk 289 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:54.960 about the one of the worst ideas is to have 290 00:15:55.039 --> 00:15:58.879 a reporter, and not just any reporter, a pretty well known, 291 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:05.039 famous reporter added to your war plan chat that Uh yeah, 292 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:07.799 I see that as a little bit of an oopsie daisy, 293 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:11.720 you know what I mean. But anyway, Uh, let's see here. Uh, 294 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:14.440 last time I heard of a fucking group chat. A 295 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:18.919 few weeks ago, there was a Castralian Oh it is 296 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:23.600 a castration in shit glad that Yeah. Yeah, Tulca Gabbard 297 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:26.360 found out that big group chat with all of the 298 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:32.039 members of the NSA. We're talking about how people in 299 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:37.799 the of a post op trans setting, how they derived 300 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:40.320 sexual pleasure without genitals anymore. And that was a whole 301 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:44.360 thing that was in the news. So to my knowledge, 302 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:47.639 everybody that was associated with that got fired like outright. 303 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:51.360 And we haven't heard anything else about that as of yet. 304 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:53.879 And now that Trump's cracking down all the DEI stuff, 305 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:56.000 I doubt we're gonna hear anything else like that go down. 306 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:59.360 But now we have to worry about military op sect 307 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:01.840 in the group chat. That's because that's a that's a 308 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:04.079 real thing that just happened, you know, and they're trying 309 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:07.079 to downplay it as they would. It would be very 310 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:10.440 easy for somebody just step up and be like they did. Uh, 311 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:14.480 you know, not the Secretary of Defense. It was a 312 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:18.119 Secretary of National Security came and took ownership of it 313 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:20.599 and said, look, that's on me. I added him that 314 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:23.039 was my bad thing, was Ratcliffe. And he's like that 315 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:26.640 that was my mistake. And I do appreciate that. Give 316 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:30.759 credit word's due, But you know you can't. You can't 317 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:32.720 undo this one one hundred percent. It's gonna take a 318 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:34.319 little bit of time to let this one blow over. 319 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:37.599 I am happy that the Houthis are pretty much all 320 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:40.440 but exterminated at this moment. Well, the Hoothi rebels, I 321 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:42.480 should say, the ones that are trying to get in 322 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:46.480 the way of trade in the area. From what I've 323 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:48.799 been given to understand and what I've read in articles, 324 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:53.400 they have been pretty much all but wiped out. Now 325 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:56.000 I know that that's not a one hundred percent accurate statement, 326 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:58.240 because it's an insurgency, and there's only one way to 327 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:01.400 get rid of an insurgency, and it with mimocide. And 328 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:03.839 we don't need that, right, we really don't need that. 329 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:07.599 But it uh, you know, I'm glad to see that 330 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:09.680 the hooties are probably not going to be making any 331 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:14.440 and he plays towards touching America's boats again for a 332 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:19.279 good long while. This makes me happy. Yeah, Zombie Raven says, 333 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:21.200 no way, they fucked up this bad. Yeah, No, it's 334 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:24.279 it's bad. It really was a big drop of the ball. 335 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:28.519 It's not as bad as Killery and her emails. I agree, 336 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:34.039 Killery and her emails and old Biden's son in his laptop. 337 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:36.680 I would say it would be a way further breach 338 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:41.799 of OPSEC and national security. I agree with that. However, 339 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:45.119 as we are currently in active conflict with these people, 340 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:50.039 I'm with this is the It's embarrassing. It is flat 341 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:53.799 out embarrassing. Tony, go ahead. 342 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:55.079 Yeah. 343 00:18:55.119 --> 00:19:02.279 The people think or speculate was confused for JG was 344 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:07.359 Jamison Greer, who's an American trade representative. So that might 345 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:09.839 have been what God heg sith confused or maybe he 346 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:13.519 just confused JD for JG. So that's what people are 347 00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:17.400 speculating about. That's for the hoo Thies. I would speculate 348 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:19.920 personally that they hold onto power because they've been in 349 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:23.440 power for about ten years now, that Saudis were not 350 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:26.599 able to get rid of them, and they control about 351 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:29.599 half the country. I don't think we'll be able to 352 00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:33.559 get rid of them either. They're still launching suicide drones 353 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:36.480 at Israel, which is like a thousand miles away, and 354 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:40.240 some of them reached the target, but I think most 355 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:41.960 of them get shot down, but they were just doing 356 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:42.839 that earlier today. 357 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:47.799 As long as they do ont touch American boats, that's 358 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:50.319 my big issue with them. So I don't know. And 359 00:19:50.440 --> 00:19:53.000 like you said, they're currently in control of over half 360 00:19:53.039 --> 00:19:57.160 the country and it's an insurgency. The only way to 361 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:00.400 get rid of them would be basically all out gin side, 362 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:02.839 which is not a good look. Nobody needs that kind 363 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:05.359 of thing on the repertoire, so I don't want that. 364 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:09.079 But at least, if anything, if they were to start 365 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:12.039 changing their tone a bit and go more towards the 366 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:15.680 controlling Yemen's side instead of trying to control the sea 367 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:19.480 trade side, we'd probably leave them alone. 368 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:23.960 But yeah, this is all about the trade. I liked 369 00:20:24.039 --> 00:20:27.720 jd Vance's take on the whole situation through the signal 370 00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:30.799 leaks because he was saying that only something like three 371 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:33.440 percent of our trade goes through the Red Sea. The 372 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:37.200 United States, but forty percent of Europe's trade goes through it. 373 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:41.160 So he was asking everybody, what can we do to 374 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:44.440 use this as leverage against the Europeans? What can we 375 00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:48.640 extract from them in exchange for opening up the sea 376 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:52.519 lanes over there? And I'm okay with that. I figure 377 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:53.960 if that, if this is all the way on the 378 00:20:53.960 --> 00:20:56.160 other side of the world, in the other hemisphere, that 379 00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:59.039 should be the responsibility of people over there, not ours. 380 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:03.960 I fully agree. JD. Vance is taking a very a 381 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:07.160 very oppositional stance to pretty much Europe as a whole 382 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:11.039 that with some exceptions some countries, is a little more 383 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:15.279 favorable towards, But yeah, he is not a fan of 384 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:18.039 europe like at all. So if there's something that we 385 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:20.799 could leverage against Europe to put ourselves in a better 386 00:21:20.839 --> 00:21:24.279 position over them, JD is on board with it. 387 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:24.599 Man. 388 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:26.799 He's been very vocal about that, especially in the past 389 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.200 week and a half. It's a thing, It is a 390 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:32.920 whole thing, which again, as we were talking about this 391 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:38.119 tariff war that's going on here and which countries are 392 00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:40.559 actually gonna be playing a role in Ukraine, they all 393 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:42.599 promised the world, but then none of them actually show 394 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:46.079 up jd is he's on a motive right now, he's 395 00:21:46.079 --> 00:21:48.799 on a move. I support it, honestly. I like putting 396 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:51.880 America first. I know it's a crazy concept, but uh, 397 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:54.920 you know, I personally like that we have leaders that 398 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:59.680 are putting America first. Let's see here, Raven says, good 399 00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:03.400 on they have all they have shit all over us 400 00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:06.160 over for over a decade. There's so many things they 401 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:10.759 have said and pushed forward in to penalize America. Yeah, 402 00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:14.000 one hundred percent. One hundred percent. They penalized us and 403 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:16.839 talked all kinds of shit on us for the twenty 404 00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:19.559 two years of war that we had going on in 405 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:25.799 Iraq and Afghanistan, which fine, fine, I get it. Europeans 406 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:29.480 weren't really a big fan of military American military intervention 407 00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:31.839 and they still aren't. And we were just having this 408 00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:34.240 conversation on the cults. As a matter of fact, It's like, 409 00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:39.480 you know, if, realistically, if Trump woke up tomorrow and 410 00:22:39.519 --> 00:22:42.319 decided that he wanted to in the conflict in Russia 411 00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:44.920 and Ukraine and in the conflict in Israel in Gaza, 412 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:46.720 and he wanted to deploy troops there, and just that 413 00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:49.839 would be the end of it. Just hard line. Yeah, 414 00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:52.960 we could do that. That is a that is a 415 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:59.759 physical thing that could happen. Nobody wants that. Nobody wants that. 416 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:02.599 Americans don't want that, Europeans don't want that. And even 417 00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:04.599 if we did, even if these people were begging for 418 00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:07.640 us to come in there, the second US boots touched 419 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.319 the ground, you're gonna have everybody and their mom come 420 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:12.279 out to just point the fingers, say up. America is 421 00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:15.920 trying to be the world police American intervention. It's it's 422 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:18.519 it's a no win situation. So I mean, it's it's 423 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:22.559 not it's like a moot talking point. Now, who's touching 424 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:26.079 our boats? Yeah? Yeah, no, we got time for that. 425 00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:30.400 We absolutely have time for that. But anyway, so that 426 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:32.599 was all I wanted to bring up on that talking point. 427 00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:35.319 It's a uh, it's a whole thing. Hold on, we're 428 00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:38.079 even why would we do this when power is up 429 00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:41.200 for grabs? It is this is a chess game that 430 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:45.319 has multiple pieces on the board, So that is strategic. Yeah, no, 431 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.359 I agree, that's what I'm saying. It's is it possible 432 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:50.920 for us to end this ship once and for all? Yeah? 433 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:54.440 Will we? Nah, that's not our beef. It's not our fight. 434 00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:57.440 Why would we get involved with it? And I'm again 435 00:23:57.559 --> 00:24:00.759 thankful that we have an administration that seas that way. 436 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:04.119 That's wonderful. Let other people deal with their problems. Once 437 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:07.640 it becomes us problem, then we will intervene. But right now, no, 438 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:11.200 that's a dumb problem. So I personally like this a lot. 439 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:14.400 Tony says, we do it for Israel, not for Europe. Well, 440 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:17.559 that's because of the long standing ties that America has 441 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:21.039 with Israel. We are the thickest, the thickest of homies 442 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:22.839 with Israel. And I know people have a lot of 443 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:26.200 different opinions on that. I get it, all the things, 444 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:29.359 all the stuff, but until further notice, America is you're 445 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:33.079 going to be locked in, just locked in. 446 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:36.519 But anyway, yeah, that is the explanation. Because Trump doesn't 447 00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:40.480 like Europe either, not really like Israel. 448 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:44.000 Trump does like Israel, and I don't know if he's 449 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:47.039 really a fan of net and Yahoo like as a dude, 450 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:49.680 I know they're they're cordial, they're friendly and everything else, 451 00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:53.559 but it's like, and that's the other part of geopolitics 452 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:56.279 that are kind of crazy to watch play out. How 453 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.480 much of it is actually like two heads of state 454 00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:03.640 being homeboys, And how much of it is the representative 455 00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:08.640 of Israel and the representative of America keeping up the alliances, 456 00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:12.440 of keeping the countries as homeboys, you know what I'm saying. 457 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:16.039 Like there was a big thing with Russian collusion when 458 00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:17.880 Trump got elected the first time, they were trying to 459 00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:21.240 say that Putin and Trump were like actually secretly like 460 00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:24.200 really good friends, like they talk all the time on 461 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:28.799 the phone. That's not true. But I could envision a 462 00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:31.960 world where Putin and Trump could also like get together 463 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.279 and have a beer together and like two peas in 464 00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:36.079 a pod kind of thing. I could see a world 465 00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:38.640 where that's a true statement. But how much of it 466 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:41.440 is keeping up the relations on behalf of your nation 467 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:44.079 and how much of it is them hanging out with 468 00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:46.559 a friend of theirs. There's like a dance to be 469 00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:49.119 had here. There's a game to be played. I don't 470 00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:52.200 think that Trump and net and Yahoo are friends. I 471 00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:54.960 think that they are friendly on behalf of their nations, 472 00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:56.079 if that makes sense. 473 00:25:56.920 --> 00:25:59.480 I think they used to be personal friends. But then 474 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:04.279 when Netton Yahoo recognized Joe Biden as the president elect 475 00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:07.799 right after the election in twenty twenty, I think Trump 476 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:09.920 really soured on him. A lot of people noticed that 477 00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:14.039 Trump unfollowed Nettan Yahoo on Twitter that day, and he's 478 00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:16.680 had a few kind of negative comments about him since then, 479 00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:21.319 but they're tempered for sure, and Trump has always been 480 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:24.680 As far as the partisan divide goes in Israel, the 481 00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:27.920 Net and Yahoo Lukud faction lines up more with Republicans, 482 00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:31.640 and the Ahood Barack faction lines up more with Democrats. 483 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:35.160 And Jeffrey Epstein was more in the Ahood Barack faction, 484 00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:38.440 so that is another thing to be aware of. And 485 00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:43.880 Putin has also been sort of personally friendly with Net 486 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:47.160 and Yahoo for many many years, and I think that 487 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.519 relationship has also soured a little bit over the last 488 00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:51.920 five years or so, but I think it had helped 489 00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:54.759 them avoid all out war over Syria in twenty fifteen, 490 00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:58.000 So I would totally agree with you that these random 491 00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:01.640 interpersonal relationships do influence. It's a lot on the world stage. 492 00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:04.559 I didn't know that Net and Yahoo and Putin were 493 00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:08.079 like friendly in that regardless on a personal level, because 494 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:12.960 Putin and the Ayatola have been really even I'm not 495 00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:15.200 going to say close, but as far as like on 496 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:17.839 behalf of their nations. They have a very very good 497 00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:20.720 working relationship and have for a very long time. I 498 00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:24.240 didn't know that Putin was kind of friendly towards netanyago, though. 499 00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:26.640 It kind of makes sense when you think about it. 500 00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:29.759 The two big Russian bases for the Mediterranean Sea or 501 00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:33.160 in Syria right there to Israel's northern border, so it 502 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:35.279 would make sense that you would want to keep the 503 00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:37.559 area and a relative state of peace. I know he 504 00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:42.319 was really tight friends with the Assad regime, so I mean, yeah, 505 00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:45.039 you could see and why they would keep it friendly 506 00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:47.359 on the southern side of that towards Israel too. 507 00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:51.000 Sure, Yeah, I think Putin used to be friendlier with 508 00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:53.160 the NET and Yahoo, and the relationship has gotten worse 509 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:55.319 and worse over the years. But Putin's been in power 510 00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:58.799 in Russia since nineteen ninety nine, with only very brief 511 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:06.119 four years pause around twenty ten. But yeah, Russia has 512 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.759 been very friendly and Russia has been a strategic enemy 513 00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.640 of Israel for a very long time, with very few 514 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:17.599 exceptions except for you know, the late forties, and you know, 515 00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:21.920 they've supported Syria, Egypt. They put their military assets in 516 00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:26.119 Egypt during the nineteen sixties and seventies. They built AK 517 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:29.880 forty seven factories through the Arab world. But Russia, the 518 00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:33.440 Russian government does not wear its feelings on its sleeves 519 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:38.119 as much as the Iranian and Arab governments do regarding Israel. 520 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:42.119 So very true, very true, And I don't think Putin 521 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:46.279 actually has any kind of Most of the Arabic countries 522 00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:50.720 have a a real systemic dog in the fight against Israel. 523 00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:53.519 I don't think Russia really has a dog in that fight. 524 00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:56.119 And like you said in the in the forties, I mean, 525 00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:00.200 and yes, is I know this is gonna sound anti 526 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:04.279 Semitic as hell here, but yeah, Russia we had some 527 00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:07.599 pogroms where they were very unkind to the Jewish population. 528 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:10.240 So once Israel became a nation, they were like, send 529 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.079 all of them there, what's up. They were cool with 530 00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:14.039 Israel because it was getting rid of their Jewish quote 531 00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:17.319 unquote Jewish problem. So yeah, I could see them being 532 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:20.440 friendly with them, at least in the beginning. But as 533 00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:23.559 the Cold War pressed on and as the lines got 534 00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:26.440 divided with which Arab nations were friendly with Russia versus 535 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:29.279 friendly with capitalist nations and NATO, it, yeah, I could 536 00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:32.960 see how things would sour these days. Though, Yeah, I 537 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.920 don't think that he really has. I think you're right 538 00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:40.200 the situation between Putin and net and Yahoo has probably 539 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:43.720 soured on a personal level, but on behalf of each country. 540 00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:46.680 It's not like Russia's sending fighters into Israel or Gaza. 541 00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:51.480 They don't care, but they will definitely sell Iran some 542 00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:54.839 weapons or you know, I could see that one hundred percent. 543 00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:57.319 Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. 544 00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:00.960 By the way, the programs from hundred years ago, they 545 00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:03.279 all took place in what is now Ukraine, and I 546 00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:08.319 believe Belarus, what is Russia today, did not have any 547 00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:10.759 of them because most of the Jews lived in the 548 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:14.079 former Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth. I think this gets into the weeds, 549 00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:17.359 but I find it kind of ironic that Israel's on 550 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:20.200 Ukraine's side now, even though that's where pretty much all 551 00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:22.559 the pugromes happened one hundred plus years ago. 552 00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:29.400 Yeah. Times changed things, you know, they really really do. 553 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.480 And I know Putin's been on this whole Denazification push 554 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:37.960 that that's been as big kick this whole time. But 555 00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:39.960 at the time, you're right, these places were a part 556 00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:42.640 of the Soviet Union, so it was like the Royal 557 00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:47.160 the Royal Quotations of Russia proper so to speak. So 558 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.200 I mean we, like you said, it's getting into the 559 00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:53.319 weeds a bit. But yeah, yeah, these days, especially the 560 00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:58.880 Poles and opinions have changed a bit. Go ahead, Royce. 561 00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:02.319 The only thing I was going to suggest is a 562 00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:08.279 possible reason for Israel, not necessarily my Ukraine, is that 563 00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:14.119 there were actually a lot of acidic masters in Ukraine 564 00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:18.359 throughout the seventeenth eighteenth century. 565 00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:23.119 So like there there are there's a famous robbi named 566 00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:28.000 Rabbi Nelson of wrestler where that whole wrestler movement comes from, 567 00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:31.599 and that is in Ukraine, and like every single year 568 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:38.000 they're like literally thousands, like tens of thousands. 569 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:40.599 Of people that go visit the grave site. 570 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:44.880 Of Reminessen in in Uman. 571 00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.920 So you know that could also make sense. 572 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.480 Okay, I did not know that, And I mean that 573 00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:55.200 makes sense as far as the Oshkenazi movement goes. I mean, 574 00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:57.519 they settled a big portion that went to Germany, a 575 00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.279 big portion that went to Poland. But I'm I mean, 576 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.480 we're talking about Ukraine and Belarus and all that right there, 577 00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:07.599 the Lithuanian Commonwealth, like that's all that's all Central and 578 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.000 Northern European connected, So that makes sense that they would 579 00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:13.160 have a fairly large Jewish population there for sure in 580 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.400 the fifteenth and sixteenth century, like you just said, that 581 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:18.920 was kind of when they really set down roots in 582 00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:23.599 that section of Europe too, if I'm not mistaken, right, So. 583 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:26.400 Yeah, there are definitely some very famous rabbis that have 584 00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:30.960 come out of there, Like the Lithuanians are like a 585 00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.680 huge sect in and of them and of themselves nice 586 00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:38.319 like you have. There's thirty thousand people, forty thousand people 587 00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:42.519 on Russia Shana and various other times like they will 588 00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:48.200 specifically go there. And I think the Balshamptov also was, 589 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:53.119 who was basically one of the founding fathers of a 590 00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.279 sidem in general. 591 00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:58.200 I believe his greave site is also in Ukraine. 592 00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:02.880 So there's definitely a lot historically, at least farm the 593 00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:06.319 more religious ends of the spectrum. 594 00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.440 Well, I mean, let's not forget in Zelensky Jewish himself. 595 00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:15.640 I think I heard, I mean I have heard that, yes, right, 596 00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:16.200 And I. 597 00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:19.640 Know Putin's all about the denotification as he's attacking a 598 00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:23.920 Jewish head of state, but you know, yeah, that's a 599 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:25.880 whole other thing. But you know, while we're on the topic, 600 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.079 of Russia. Before we talk about this CBS thing here, 601 00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:31.720 I wanted to bring this one up. This is kind 602 00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:34.119 of interesting, and I don't think that there's really much 603 00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:38.240 weight to be put behind this, I know, but I 604 00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:42.160 also think it's interesting that this is happening again. Russia's 605 00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:46.240 commander doubles down on Putin's coup and calls as security 606 00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:50.799 elites turn against the Kremlin. Now, this is from the Express. 607 00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:54.119 It's a UK publication, but let's talk about it here. 608 00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:58.279 A Russian private military company a PMC told the Express 609 00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:03.519 that their commander stands by his overthrow Vladimir Putin. Greg 610 00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:08.320 gory Zakravinsky think I nailed that. One is the founder 611 00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:11.880 of the Paladin PMC, and the Paladin PMC is a 612 00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:15.079 pretty well known one as far as Russian military contractors 613 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.599 are concerned. They are not nearly as big as the 614 00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:20.800 Wagner group once was, but they are one of them. 615 00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:25.280 It says many military shadow groups like the former Wagner 616 00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:27.960 group that are linked to the Krimlin. Now, to give 617 00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:31.079 everybody a little bit of perspective here, the Wagner force 618 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.079 was I think twenty or thirty thousand strong just a 619 00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:37.440 couple of years ago before their leader tried to really 620 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:41.280 launch a coup on Moscow and got shut down, and 621 00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:45.079 the guy died in a freak plane accident, as one 622 00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:47.159 would expect when you try to take down the leader 623 00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:51.320 of Russia. But whatever, Now, the Paladin Group, I think 624 00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:55.800 I read somewhere that they have maybe one to two 625 00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:59.920 thousand strong, So they are not a big player by 626 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.320 any means, but they are one of the more well 627 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:06.679 known PMCs of Russia. Their reach is pretty far. They've been, 628 00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:11.000 you know, showcased in a couple of conflict areas of Russia, 629 00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:13.719 a couple of places in Africa, the Middle East. The 630 00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.920 military commander launched a blistering attack on the Russian president 631 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:19.119 during a video recording in which he blamed all the 632 00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:23.559 military failures in Ukraine on Putin. Personally, I personally think 633 00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:28.400 that's a bit misguided, you know. It's not like Putin 634 00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:30.360 is one of the generals making the calls for which 635 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:32.880 places to attack. But I don't know, I don't know 636 00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:36.400 how hands on our boy Putin it actually is with 637 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:38.199 what goes down on the front lines, or is he 638 00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:41.559 more of the guy in the armchair and the generals 639 00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:43.639 are more that I don't know. I don't know, but 640 00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:47.000 you know either way. He also went on to accuse 641 00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:50.639 Putin of causing all of Russia's economic and social ills, 642 00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:54.000 and he urged the military to rise up and free 643 00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:57.159 the country from the tyrants rule. As previously reported by 644 00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:01.760 The Express, Zekravinsky's attack was published in a short edited 645 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:05.440 video clip on social media channels in August. This is 646 00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:07.599 the guy in question right here, and this is this 647 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:09.679 and a clip. There's just a screenshot of it. I 648 00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.800 tried finding the video itself. They did have it translated 649 00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:16.199 into English. You could understand exactly what he was saying. 650 00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:22.800 This was a scathing clip of him just shitting all 651 00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.599 over putin top to bottom and basically telling everybody to 652 00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:28.440 turn against him. At this time, the video is been 653 00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:31.599 scrubbed all the sources where I found it from earlier today. 654 00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:33.719 As a matter of fact, I can't find the video again. 655 00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.239 I'm sure it's out there somewhere, but I can't find it. 656 00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:38.960 I had like three different sources that I had pulled up, 657 00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:41.199 and when I went back to send it to my computer, 658 00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:46.400 they're gone. They're white, I know. Shocker. When asked by 659 00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:50.440 The Express to elaborate on the commander's criticisms. A Spokesposton 660 00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:54.960 spokesperson excuse me for the militias, initially denied the leader 661 00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:58.159 had criticized Putin or urged his removal. They claimed the 662 00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:02.320 video clip had been maliciously deck doctored and edited to 663 00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:07.239 convey that impression. However, when pressed on whether zev Kravinsky 664 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:11.239 had complete faith in Putin's domestic policies the leadership of 665 00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:14.159 the war in Ukraine, they failed to give a clear endorsement, 666 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:18.079 telling The Express to draw your own conclusions. Subsequently, a 667 00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:20.639 spokesperson told The Express in a further email that the 668 00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:25.280 original article on their leader's criticisms had correctly reflected his views. 669 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:29.119 So we're already getting conflicting reports of well, what was said, 670 00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:33.719 what was actually intended? All of these things they wrote, 671 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.920 you did not invent anything, did not exaggerate or minimize, 672 00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.679 did not improve or worsen the image of our leader. 673 00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:46.119 Zakravisky's outburst is indicative of a growing dissatisfaction among security 674 00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.920 yeah security elits with Putin, according to professor Mark Galaghdi 675 00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:54.760 from the Russi think Tank. He told The Express that 676 00:37:54.800 --> 00:38:00.440 there was increasingly fragmentation with Russia's security apparatus. And that 677 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:03.760 Putin could no longer count on their unconditional support. He 678 00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:06.639 noted that this fragmentation was also clearly visible during the 679 00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:10.920 last year's Wagner mutiny, when the National Guard troops, Yeah, 680 00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:13.519 national Guard troops stayed in their barracks and their commanders 681 00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:16.599 remained deliberately out of contact so as not to have 682 00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:19.760 carry out the orders. I'm not suggesting we're going to 683 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.920 see a mercenary coup because if nothing else, the mercenaries 684 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:26.519 themselves are divided, they're not really political, and they're not 685 00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:30.239 under type control. So I'm not going to read the 686 00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:31.920 rest of this article. But this is the guy who 687 00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:35.280 tried to lead the coup last time and then got 688 00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:39.320 got all right, that was pregosion. But long story short, 689 00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:41.960 this guy is calling for an all out coup against 690 00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.960 Putin at this time. I wouldn't be surprised if he 691 00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:51.079 also gets got in that regard. Really and truly this 692 00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:56.079 is it's not a good look, but it's a small PMC. 693 00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:00.599 And if small by comparison anyway, and if even if 694 00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:03.440 every single one of his contractors decided to like march 695 00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:06.519 on Moscow right now, they are not gonna get far. 696 00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:10.199 Hel Wagner couldn't even get far. And they actually redirected 697 00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:13.760 whole battalions of troops to Moscow for that purpose and 698 00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.800 they got stopped. This isn't gonna happen. I think that 699 00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:21.760 he is upset. I think he's very aggravated, and I 700 00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:25.079 also think that Putin is starting to feel some pressure. 701 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:27.440 I just saw another and there's another clip that I 702 00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:31.880 could not find. Again. He gave a national address, as 703 00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:35.559 he does every year to Russia, and in this address 704 00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:37.679 he had opened up a little bit of the floor 705 00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:41.880 for some questions, and there was one of the biggest 706 00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:45.400 oligarchs in Russia. And I'm not saying oligarch has like 707 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:48.760 a negative connotation. That's how the politics go in Russia. 708 00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:52.119 It's okay, we have oligarchs in America too. Not thrown 709 00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:57.199 shade on that. This man stood up and basically went 710 00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:01.440 on to say, you know you're too week. Military operation 711 00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:06.320 has gone on three years. We are bastardized by the 712 00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.239 entire world. Our economy is on the brink of collapse. 713 00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:12.639 We are out producing NATO four to one in munitions, 714 00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:16.480 but our people are starving, and we are questioning your 715 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:20.360 leadership abilities at this time, do you genuinely believe that 716 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:22.800 you are making the right move on behalf of the 717 00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:28.360 Russian people. Now, when I heard this, I'm thinking that 718 00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:33.440 maybe maybe the translation was wrong, right, because it was 719 00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:36.079 a Russian to English translation. I'm thinking, all right, maybe 720 00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:39.840 maybe they did that just for the article, right, just 721 00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:43.039 for the just for the while and shock and all 722 00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:48.199 factor for Western media. And I get that right. I 723 00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:51.320 plugged it into a translator later on. This happened. I 724 00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:53.320 saw it first thing this morning, and actually had some 725 00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:54.880 time this morning while I was doing some laundry, and 726 00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:57.880 I plugged into a translator. What I just gave you 727 00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:01.400 wasn't a word for word or batim of what was said. 728 00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:05.800 It's kind of the keynotes. Putin, of course, defended his 729 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.599 title and said, yes, I do believe this, and this 730 00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:11.480 is why and these things and these things. My point is, 731 00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:16.480 though the Russian oligarchs are starting to seriously question Putin's 732 00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:19.920 leadership abilities. Now, I believe that guy himself will probably 733 00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:23.039 get god here in the next week for publicly and 734 00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:28.320 nationally coming at Putin in that manner and on that 735 00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:34.039 kind of platform that was on national television live. It's 736 00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:36.880 a bold strategy. Cotton. I do not think it's gonna 737 00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.480 work out for him, but either way it goes. We 738 00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:41.639 have PMC guys that are saying that we need to 739 00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:44.000 have a coup in Russia. We have oligarchs that are 740 00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:50.400 questioning Putin's like entire motives, his entire leadership capabilities. And 741 00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.519 then we also have this situation. Now Moscow was just 742 00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:55.920 getting lit up a few days ago. As a matter 743 00:41:55.960 --> 00:42:00.360 of fact, Ukraine launched this insane drone attack. Now I'm 744 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:02.840 not saying that the entirety of Moscow got pummeled to 745 00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:07.840 the ground, of course, not some very key critical infrastructure, 746 00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:13.360 some petroleum based plants, some storage facilities, some government buildings, 747 00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:16.320 all got hit with basically the equivalent of like a 748 00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:19.920 bunker buster, this type of missile. And they got hit 749 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.679 by these drone attacks from Ukraine right after the ceasefire 750 00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:30.280 agreement was denied by Putin. And so now as Ukraine 751 00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:33.840 is losing ground and Cursk, I think they have very little, 752 00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:37.239 if any land under their control in the cursed region 753 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:41.719 as we speak now Belgarod, and that it depends on 754 00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:44.280 the report you read on this, Okay, some reports are 755 00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:47.960 saying that Ukraine holds no ground in Belgarod and there 756 00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:50.599 was no actual land attack and it was all just drones. 757 00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:54.840 Then we have other reports showing that Belgarod is now 758 00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:58.480 not under Ukrainian control, but they have now taken land 759 00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:02.400 inside of mainland Russia in the Belgarod region. Now this 760 00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:05.639 is an ap article. I know they are extremely liberal leaning, 761 00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:07.840 which is why I think we need to kind of 762 00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:10.280 look at it with that type of lens to see 763 00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:12.199 what they are saying as far as this attack goes. 764 00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:15.639 This was published today. As a matter of fact, Russia's 765 00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:18.760 Belgarod region is under attack from Ukraine? Why does it 766 00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:23.079 keep getting targeted? What is the Belgarod region? Actually? That's 767 00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:25.679 read this part. Russian's Belgard region has come under increasing 768 00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:30.159 Ukrainian attacks this month as the invasion by Moscow grinds 769 00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:32.880 into its third year. A look at the region and 770 00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:35.880 its role in the war. The Belgarod region itself, the 771 00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:40.159 region of forests, farmlands and rolling hills, has a five 772 00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:44.920 hundred and forty kilometer border along Ukraine's northeastern edge. It 773 00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:48.480 has an area of over twenty seven thousand square kilometers 774 00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:50.960 and has a population of about one point five million. 775 00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:53.920 It holds about forty percent of Russia's iron ore and 776 00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:57.679 other minerals and is home to several major industrial companies 777 00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:01.480 and farms. The city of Belgarod, the provincial capital with 778 00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:04.880 a population of about three hundred and forty thousand, since 779 00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.679 only forty kilometers east of the border, making it an 780 00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:11.719 easy target for Ukrainian artillery. So what has the region 781 00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:15.079 faced up until this point? The region was one staging 782 00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:17.840 a ground for the invasion by Russia in February twenty 783 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:21.480 twenty two. It has come under regular Ukrainian attacks ever since. 784 00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:24.559 Russian forces retreated there from the northeastern Ukraine early in 785 00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:28.480 the war under the brunt of the counter offensive Baikiev. 786 00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.320 An attack on the city of Belgrade on December thirtieth 787 00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:34.360 marked a bloody escalation. A barrage of rockets struck on 788 00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:38.039 a holiday weekend as residents celebrated the new year. Officials 789 00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:40.519 said twenty five people were killed, including five children, and 790 00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:43.760 over one hundred were injured. The bloodshed also forced officials 791 00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:47.199 to cancel celebrations for the Orthodox feast of Epiphany on 792 00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.400 January nineteenth. Regular rocket and drone strikes have continued since then, 793 00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:54.000 and the area can be struck by relatively simple and 794 00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:57.960 mobile weapons such as multiple rocket launchers from forests on 795 00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:03.360 the Ukrainian side down to this part here. So what 796 00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:07.440 is Putin's reaction? The cross border shelling and incursions took place? 797 00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.800 As Putin has cemented his grip on power for another 798 00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:14.199 six years in a highly orchestrated election this month that 799 00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:17.400 followed a sweeping crack down on dissent. Putin says the 800 00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:20.519 attacks are an attempt to scare residents and quote, I'm 801 00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:23.800 sure that our people, the people of Russia, will respond 802 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:27.440 to that with even greater cohesion. He said last week. 803 00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:32.239 He vows of the Ukrainian cross border attacks won't go unpunish, unpunished. 804 00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:36.079 Jesus venting particular angered at pro Kiev Russians who joined 805 00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:39.400 Ukrainian troops in the incursions, describing them as traders who 806 00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:43.559 will face imminent death. So we have pro Kiev Russians 807 00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:48.360 who joined the Ukrainian troops in the incursion. That's interesting. 808 00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:52.599 I think we already know how the Belgrade officials have responded. Yeah, 809 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:54.800 no doubt, of course, ep No, I'm not going to 810 00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:58.880 donate to you focks. What do Ukrainian officials say? Ukrainian 811 00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:02.119 officials rarely comment on attacks inside of Russia, but they 812 00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:05.679 emphasized Kiev's right to use all means to counter Moscow's aggression. 813 00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:09.719 Ukrainian Foreign Minister not gonna pronounce that name said Tuesday 814 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:13.320 that any military action there was the direct consequence of 815 00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:16.559 the illegal and unprovoked aggression of Russia against Ukrainia. Yeah, yeah, okay. 816 00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:20.360 So I've seen reports saying that there is absolutely boots 817 00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:22.920 on the ground in that area as we speak. I've 818 00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:26.119 seen other reports saying that it is kind of being 819 00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:28.400 blown out of proportion and it was just a series 820 00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:30.360 of drone strikes and it's not as serious as they're 821 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:33.239 trying to make it out to be. Either way it goes, 822 00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:36.360 it's not looking really good as far as things go 823 00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:38.960 in Russia every time, like for instance, the Curse region, 824 00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:41.920 I saw them taking that land back as a positive 825 00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:44.679 for Russia. Good for them, they defended their territory, all 826 00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:47.039 these things. Yeah, they had to use North Korean troops 827 00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:49.559 and all these things. Yeah, yea, I'll find but at 828 00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:51.679 least they got their land back, and that meant that 829 00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:54.440 Ukraine lost their bargaining ship that they were trying to 830 00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:59.000 use as leverage in a ceasefire agreement. If this Belgarod, 831 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:03.239 the situation is what some reports are saying. They may 832 00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:07.360 be trying to get another bargaining chit. Then we could 833 00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:11.000 also think about it this way, these attacks in Belgard. 834 00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:13.400 I don't believe the Ukraine's actually trying to take any 835 00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:16.159 land in this area, just Jacob speaking on behalf of 836 00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:18.599 Jacob and not being some sort of a military tactician 837 00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:22.199 by anyway, What I think is probably happening is they 838 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:24.880 are attacking this area as a way to divert more 839 00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:28.440 troops and more resources to Bellgarod to try to relieve 840 00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.599 some of the other areas that they're fighting on right now. 841 00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:32.840 Russia only has so many troops to go around, right 842 00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:34.960 just like Ukraine only has so many troops to go around. 843 00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:37.679 I think that they are trying to hard point this 844 00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:41.440 offensive right now as a diversion. I could be so 845 00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:44.960 wrong here, but it kind of is playing out that way, 846 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.119 and at least it reads that way on the on 847 00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:50.000 the chalkboard to me, I don't know, I could be 848 00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:52.800 go ahead, I. 849 00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:55.760 Totally agree with you. This actually reminds me a lot 850 00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.280 of how the Germans lashed out with V one and 851 00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:01.000 V two rockets towards again to World War Two, because 852 00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:04.079 they couldn't muster any manpower to invade England at that 853 00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:08.239 point that was out of the question, right, But yeah, 854 00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:11.800 he was in a similar situation. I also wanted to 855 00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:16.000 comment about Zakrivsky. I've never heard of Georghi Zakrevsky before, 856 00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:18.920 and I googled him. I searched for him on telegram 857 00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:21.719 on Google. The first results I was getting was from 858 00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:25.159 somebody with the same name two hundred years ago. So, 859 00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:28.119 I mean, he is really small potatoes compared to Pregojing, 860 00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:30.480 who was really famous and thought that he could pull 861 00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.840 it off because he was so famous and so well loved. 862 00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:35.199 And when I was following the Russian telegrams really closely 863 00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:38.239 for the first year of the war, most of it 864 00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:42.519 was very, very very pro Pregosian until the mutiny and 865 00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:46.039 then then suddenly public opinion didn't know what to do. 866 00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:48.159 But then it kind of turned against him right right 867 00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:50.679 at that point, because everyone, you know, just chooses the 868 00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:53.519 side of the winner, and Putin won that pretty quickly. Yeah, 869 00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:55.679 I'm sorry for all the noise here in the background, So. 870 00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:58.639 Are you fine? No, But I agree with you. Progosion 871 00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:01.159 was well liked and well, we're infected him and Putin 872 00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:04.960 were home boys on a very personal level. They were friends, 873 00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:08.679 and Progosion was the leader of the largest PMC that 874 00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:14.000 Russia had to offer. Now, this Gorge Kravitsky guy, you 875 00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:16.360 probably haven't heard of him, but you probably heard of 876 00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:20.159 the Paladin PMC. And that's a that's a big probably 877 00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:22.519 on that one. I don't know. I know of it 878 00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:25.159 because I pay attention to like PMC movements as well. 879 00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:27.519 It's not something that most people have heard of, Like 880 00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:31.159 I mean, how America's got hundreds of private military contractors 881 00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:33.000 that no one's ever heard of, but you've heard of 882 00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:36.079 like Blackwater and Triple Canopy and the you know what 883 00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:39.000 I mean. It's there's some there's some leeway on that one. 884 00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:41.320 Wagner was one of the ones that everybody's heard of. 885 00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:44.000 Paladin not really. 886 00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:46.840 I mean, now, I hadn't heard of them and I 887 00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:50.039 googled them and all the results are from no later 888 00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:53.519 than September last year. So maybe they've renamed themselves since then. 889 00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:56.760 Certainly that guy speaking up against Putin must have shaken 890 00:49:56.800 --> 00:49:58.719 things up so much. They're probably not under the same 891 00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:02.119 name anymore. And I'd never heard of them before. So 892 00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:03.599 that's just my two cents. 893 00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:06.559 Yeah. And also, this guy, he's trying to really come 894 00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:09.360 up against Putin at this point in time, while he's 895 00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:12.920 under fire from I mean figuravely and literally. I don't 896 00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:15.000 think that's a smooth move. I don't think it's a 897 00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:19.039 very smart move. Moscow getting bombed is also not a 898 00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:24.280 good look on Putin himself. Now, I'm sure that this 899 00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:27.440 will be a bit of a rallying cry and re 900 00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.039 Actually it might go against Ukraine to attack them in 901 00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:33.159 that way, because now they might actually gain more Russian 902 00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:36.880 support for the military offensive. It's very possible. 903 00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:39.800 Yeah, it's hard to know how that'll go. 904 00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:44.039 But with Asad for example as an example, with Damascus 905 00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.880 getting missiles and bombs once or twice a week for 906 00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.920 like five or ten years straight, I think eventually even 907 00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:53.519 people who supported him just got tired of it and said, 908 00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:55.760 why are we supporting this guy if he can't defend 909 00:50:55.840 --> 00:51:01.800 us from that? Yeah, and you know, maybe HTS will 910 00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:05.800 relieve the sanctions, so whatever, screw it, let's I think 911 00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:08.000 that's why I saw'd lost support. But I think Putin 912 00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:10.719 is very far away from an outcome like that. I 913 00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:13.599 think he's gonna hold on. I think Russia is gonna 914 00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:16.119 win this. It is taking a lot longer than I expected, 915 00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:19.079 but they're just they're going slow, and I think they'll win. 916 00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:20.760 If I if I had to put money on what's 917 00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.920 going to happen, I think Putin retains power until he 918 00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:27.039 steps down from old age. I think the Olige Arks 919 00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:31.559 will still support Russian Unity Party. I think Russia will 920 00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:34.920 get new borders with Ukraine and they'll basically win like 921 00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:38.199 ninety percent of what they want. That's my bet if 922 00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:39.239 I had to put money on it. 923 00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:42.519 I don't understand why he backed away from the ceasefire agreement. 924 00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:46.639 Now they did. They did recently make a ceasefire agreement 925 00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:50.039 for the Black Sea that Ukraine and Russia kind of 926 00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:52.519 agreed for a minute there that the Black Sea was 927 00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:55.119 gonna be an all free zone. No, nobody's gonna be 928 00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:57.360 shooting at each other there because they both want trade 929 00:51:57.360 --> 00:51:59.320 to resume in some way, shape or forming. The Black 930 00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:01.719 seas kind of a big in for that one. But 931 00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:03.239 I don't even know if that's going to stand, to 932 00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:04.000 be honest with you. 933 00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:07.400 Exactly, yeah, I mean either. But if I had to 934 00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:09.599 put money down, I think it actually will. I think 935 00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:12.880 this war is reaching its natural end. So I'm on 936 00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:16.159 record now saying I'm betting this Grain or Black Sea 937 00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:17.280 deal will hold. 938 00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:19.840 All right, all right, you know what, Tony, I want 939 00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:23.079 to ask you, just you with your opinion, one hundred 940 00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:26.960 percent opinion here, if you had to guess, just full 941 00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:31.199 hypothetical guessing here of when you think a true ceasefire 942 00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:33.960 will be reached. I don't want to say a peace agreement, 943 00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:36.519 because I don't think that's even a proper term for 944 00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:39.840 it at this point, honestly, But whenever the fighting will 945 00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:42.280 actually stop for more than a couple of hours at 946 00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.360 a time, because it seems like that's just not happening currently. 947 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:47.920 But when they finally will decide it's over. How much 948 00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:49.000 longer do you think we got on. 949 00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:54.280 This good question? Let me just say twelve months March 950 00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:55.599 of twenty twenty six. 951 00:52:56.480 --> 00:53:01.159 March of twenty Okay, that's not a bad yes, that's 952 00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:03.719 not a bad guess at all. Honestly, I was hoping 953 00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:05.400 you weren't gonna say, like sometime in the next like 954 00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:08.519 four months or something. I don't know, but I could 955 00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:11.760 see another another year of it for sure, But I 956 00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:14.079 guess it all depends. I know, it's really hard to 957 00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:18.400 hypothetical something like this, because let's say Ukraine does take 958 00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:20.559 some sort of chunk of Russia, then they got a 959 00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:24.440 real leverage. Let's say Russia drafts so many more people 960 00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:27.039 into their ranks and just full frontal blitzkreags it and 961 00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:30.559 then they take half of Ukraine. Who knows what's gonna 962 00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:34.079 happen in the next six months, but I think March 963 00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:37.119 by next year could be a could be a realistic 964 00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:43.920 endpoint for it. I would hope, I optimistically, that we 965 00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:46.960 could see some sort of an agreement come before the 966 00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:51.320 end of this year. I'm not saying that's probable. I'm 967 00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:54.920 saying it's possible. So I don't know. I don't know. 968 00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:57.800 Yeah, that's possible, and I'm hoping for that too. 969 00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:00.519 But it's gone way longer than I thought it, and 970 00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:02.159 I'm just saying another year. 971 00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:07.719 That's yeah, speculation, that's a pretty fair estimate, honestly. All right, 972 00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:12.719 So now moving on from the Russia conversation. Now, not Tony, 973 00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:15.559 excuse me, Royce actually sent this one and I think 974 00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:18.840 this is gonna be a fascinating one CBS News article 975 00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:21.920 here over and this was written March twenty second of 976 00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:26.519 this year. Over thirty thousand turnout for Bernie Sanders AOC 977 00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:31.760 rally in Denver amid push for progressive change. Okay, wait 978 00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:35.559 a minute, hold on, hold on, Before I even read this, 979 00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:41.119 Bernie Sanders is from Vermont. AOC is from like Illinois, 980 00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:45.119 isn't she? Why do we have people showing up in 981 00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:50.719 Denver for Okay, sure, let's just better patter. Let's get 982 00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:53.960 at her, I guess. An estimated thirty four thousand people 983 00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:56.880 gathered Friday evening at Civic Center Park in Denver to 984 00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:00.320 hear Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont and represent and of 985 00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:04.559 AOC of New York in New York now Illinois, excuse 986 00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:08.840 me push a number of progressive policies. Just hours later, 987 00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:11.679 they spoke before a crowd of about eleven thousand at 988 00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:15.719 the University of Northern Colorado in Greeley. The two stops 989 00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:17.960 for the progressive leaders in Colorado were part of what 990 00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:23.559 they dubbed the quote unquote fighting Oligarchy Tour. Before I 991 00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:27.760 even continue reading more, Bernie Sanders is a loud and 992 00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:34.519 proud self proclaimed socialist. The fact that he is against oligarchs, 993 00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:39.599 as he calls himself a socialist, is one of the 994 00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:42.159 biggest feats of irony I think I've ever heard of 995 00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.639 in my life. The only way socialism and communism works 996 00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:50.880 is if there's oligarchs like that's okay, okay, we're just 997 00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:53.639 going We're just go push on here, go ahead, Royce. 998 00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:57.599 So just a couple quick things. First of all, I 999 00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:00.519 think one of the reasons why they were rowing, or 1000 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:03.480 why they chose Colorado for this one, is because the 1001 00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:08.519 pushback that Colorado and Denver had with the whole migrants thing. 1002 00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:10.480 You remember what I said you a couple of months 1003 00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:16.239 ago that like people were protesting, you know, we don't 1004 00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:19.679 want our we want these guys to remember. Yeah, So 1005 00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:23.599 I think because of that pushback, that's one thing. Second 1006 00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:26.480 of all, I think there are people that don't do 1007 00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:29.840 their own research, and they listen to the mainstream media 1008 00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:32.800 that says Trump is bad. And then whenever you have 1009 00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:37.400 these politicians that are echoing that thought. And then you 1010 00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:41.000 have like AOC who you know, the Democrats might look at, all, right, well, 1011 00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:44.159 she's a pretty face, and you know she seems like 1012 00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:46.039 she's charismatic, and you. 1013 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:48.320 Know she cares about the people. Look what's going on. 1014 00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:51.239 I don't want to say they're using her kind of 1015 00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:55.519 as a martyr es but it seems like they're kind 1016 00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:58.000 of using her as a rallying point. And then you 1017 00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:01.480 have Bernie Sanders who goes, oh, you know he's he 1018 00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:04.480 is the old grandpa figure, but he's like in this 1019 00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:09.280 in the same maybe a rage ish of Trump while 1020 00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:14.000 being completely opposite and far as demeanor. Tell me how 1021 00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:17.039 many people actually look at policies nowadays for people and 1022 00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.880 what they actually stand for. It's oh, it's AOC is 1023 00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:23.880 this or Bernie Standers? Is that, Kamala Harris is this? 1024 00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:29.360 Very little do they actually stand for stuff? And even 1025 00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:33.119 with that saying, they don't seem to even want to 1026 00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:37.920 put their policies out there. How many times was Kamlarius 1027 00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:41.400 asked about her policies. She's like, oh, we'll just rid website. 1028 00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:44.719 And the website didn't have Jack on it, right, So 1029 00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:47.559 they're all about like the whole feeling, you know, feel good, 1030 00:57:48.199 --> 00:57:52.079 et cetera. It has very little to do with actual policies. 1031 00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:55.199 And you know, it's very it's not what our policies are. 1032 00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:58.199 It's oh, we are anti Trump, we are anti this, 1033 00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:00.800 anti that, right one hundred percent. 1034 00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:03.840 And I mean both of them AOC and Sanders are 1035 00:58:03.880 --> 00:58:07.000 all about taxing the rich. That is their big thing 1036 00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:09.559 that they can always tried and true. They're gonna come 1037 00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:13.440 back to this. Bernie owns like nine houses in AOC 1038 00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:15.599 in a matter of like six years, when from being 1039 00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:20.679 worth a few thousand to a few million dollars. The fact, 1040 00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:26.280 I don't understand. I don't understand their supporters or their constituents, 1041 00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:30.280 or whatever fancy word you want to call their brainwashed lackeys. 1042 00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:34.559 I don't understand why they follow them to the level 1043 00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:36.960 and to the degree that they do. And not just 1044 00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:38.360 those too, but I mean they're the ones that are 1045 00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:42.079 being currently discussed. But it just it makes no sense 1046 00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:46.360 to me that people blindly follow and I know we 1047 00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:48.559 use the term sheeple from time to time, but like, 1048 00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:52.599 I don't even know a better word to describe their followers. 1049 00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:58.559 It's insane. But all right, let's oh, let's read on here. 1050 00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:00.159 And you know, the migrants had to be up part 1051 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:02.360 of it, because that's a whole talking point of the left. 1052 00:59:03.320 --> 00:59:05.519 It goes on to say they want to know if 1053 00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:07.679 the people of America are going to stand up to 1054 00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:13.679 Trump's trump ism archy. Uh yeah, stand up toism and oligarchy. 1055 00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:18.159 Sanders said to cheering crowds. Yeah, that's it's crazy to me. 1056 00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:19.960 He's oh my god. Okay. 1057 00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:20.599 Uh. 1058 00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:22.480 The tour is part of an effort by Sanders and 1059 00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:25.920 AOC to push back against President Trump and the influence 1060 00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:30.280 that they say billionaires have had on our American politics. 1061 00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:36.440 Musk is not our Congress act lawfully, act lawfully, not awfully, 1062 00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:40.000 said Nancy Larson, a rally attendee who feels the federal 1063 00:59:40.039 --> 00:59:44.280 government is prioritizing corporate interests over ordinary Americans. I feel 1064 00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:48.360 like they're prioritizing illegal immigrants over ordinary Americans, or at 1065 00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:50.840 least they have for the past administration, but neither hand 1066 00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:54.159 with them. Uh, she says, Uh. I feel like we're 1067 00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:57.920 in a land of reverse robin Hood situation right now, 1068 00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:01.039 a kind of reverse Robinhood situation right now where we're 1069 01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:04.280 taking from the poor and disadvantage and giving more money 1070 01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:09.440 to the rich. I don't know what she's looking at 1071 01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:12.960 as far as that's concerned, but okay. Thousands of attendees 1072 01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:17.239 echo concerns that the government is increasingly influenced by billionaires 1073 01:00:17.280 --> 01:00:22.280 and large corporations. Well, I mean shocker. You know, parents 1074 01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:25.199 of Girl Scouts, Nina and Indy said they viewed the 1075 01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:28.519 rally as an educational opportunity. We like them to be 1076 01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:30.960 aware of what's happening in the world. Their mother, Jennifer 1077 01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:40.679 Walter said, Their mother, Jennifer, Oh, oh, okay. I see 1078 01:00:41.239 --> 01:00:44.400 they're saying that's a that's a daughter, and that's a okay. 1079 01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:47.920 I got you all right. Moving on, the crowd also 1080 01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:52.480 cheered for union leaders representing construction, grocery and education workers 1081 01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:58.320 as attendees' voice frustration over economic inequality. Republicans, Democrats, all 1082 01:00:58.360 --> 01:01:01.880 Americans are feeling this, said Chris Martinez, who attended the rally. 1083 01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:06.679 Attendees from earlier rally in Greeley also expressed dissatisfaction with 1084 01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:10.880 both major political parties. AOC also emphasized that their fight 1085 01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:14.639 is not just against Republicans, urging Democrats to push harder 1086 01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:19.079 for progressive policies. Some Republicans in Colorado criticized AOC and 1087 01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:23.400 Sanders in their message. Congressman Evans is fighting to lower costs, 1088 01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:28.079 safer communities, and making the American dream possible for all Colorados, 1089 01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:33.840 the spokeswoman for Republican Representative Gabe Evans, whose district includes Greeley, 1090 01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:37.840 said to the Statesman this common sense approach stands and 1091 01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:41.599 start contrast to AOC and Bernie Sanders extreme anti oil 1092 01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:47.400 gas rhetoric. Yeah, they're also really against American oil an 1093 01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:51.119 American natural gas, which I think is a whole other 1094 01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:54.280 level of retarded. To be honest with you, we should 1095 01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:57.079 be using our own resources rather than buying the resources 1096 01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:00.079 from other nations. If anything, that would put America in 1097 01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:03.559 a much better position. I don't understand why the left 1098 01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:06.400 is so anti that, except for the fact that they're 1099 01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.840 big with the globalism thing, Like they really just want 1100 01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:13.239 that they want America to be equal to all other countries. 1101 01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:17.320 I would like to live in a world where America 1102 01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:22.320 is running the fucking house to other countries. You know, 1103 01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:26.079 that's just me. It goes on to say, if Democrats 1104 01:02:26.119 --> 01:02:30.360 want to bring a couple of avowed socialists to Weld 1105 01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:33.800 County to talk about their Green New Deal scams that 1106 01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:36.920 will crush Colorado oil and gas jobs, I say go 1107 01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:40.239 for it. Republican Representative Lauren Bobert said in a statement 1108 01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:43.840 the contrast between them and Republicans like Gabe Evans, who 1109 01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:47.000 will stand up for energy producers, law enforcement officers, and 1110 01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:50.480 small business owners, couldn't be clearer. Yeah, I agree with that. 1111 01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:54.679 I agree with that. AOC and Sanders said they'll continue 1112 01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:58.239 advocating for a nation where all Americans can thrive. The 1113 01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:01.360 world is watching, Sanders said, yeah, the world is watching. 1114 01:03:01.800 --> 01:03:04.239 The world is watching. You make a complete ass yourself, 1115 01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:07.840 old man, it's time to go to the house, you know. 1116 01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:12.920 It's it's it's funny to me personally to see it 1117 01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:17.639 go to this level. Honestly, it's like Bernie Sanders has 1118 01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:20.320 been irrelevant for a little while now. Ever since he 1119 01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:24.280 lost out to Killery for the nomination or what ever, 1120 01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:27.480 since they stole the nomination from him and gave it 1121 01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:31.280 to Killery, he's kind of been relegated to like the backburner. 1122 01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:33.920 He comes around, he says some talking points, and people 1123 01:03:33.960 --> 01:03:37.119 seem to like him, even though they don't really understand 1124 01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:40.760 the math of what he's saying. Socialism is a very 1125 01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:46.159 dangerous ideology. Communism isn't even more dangerous ideology. AOC has 1126 01:03:46.199 --> 01:03:50.199 also claimed that she herself is a democratic socialist, which 1127 01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:53.519 is a socialism but instead of a you get to 1128 01:03:53.559 --> 01:03:57.320 elect your slave owner. Essentially, that's the difference between a 1129 01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:01.119 democratic socialist and a regular socialist. But yeah, the fact 1130 01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:03.719 that they're going to Colorado to try to spit that rhetoric. 1131 01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:07.639 Good luck, dude. I think I know Colorado is traditionally 1132 01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:10.519 correct me if I'm wrong here. Colorado traditionally is a 1133 01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:11.159 blue state. 1134 01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:14.480 Yeah, coracked Denver. 1135 01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:17.599 That's because of Denver and Aspen in the big cities. 1136 01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:19.679 The majority of the state is red. But the big 1137 01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:22.280 cities kind of make this way happen. Did they go 1138 01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:28.199 blue in the last election, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, so 1139 01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:30.719 maybe that's why they they're going where they know they'll 1140 01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:33.039 have a good talking point. You notice you don't see 1141 01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:37.599 Sanders come to Texas to have a big rally. I 1142 01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:38.280 wonder why that might. 1143 01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:40.920 I mean, how many blue states are there now? 1144 01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:42.880 They don't really have so many options. 1145 01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:46.480 Yeah, not anymore, even the swing states. Trump won every 1146 01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:49.039 single one of the swing states that mattered. So it's like, 1147 01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:52.280 and I mean those are still swing states. They can 1148 01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:54.760 swing back the next direction in the next election. But 1149 01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:58.280 I really have a hard time envisioning a world where 1150 01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:02.039 that's going to take place, especially now that you see 1151 01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:04.800 what's happened with Doge, Now that you see what's happened 1152 01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:08.079 with the government corruption being brought to light, now that 1153 01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:12.920 the Epstein list is allegedly about to be released. We'll 1154 01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:14.800 talk about that here in a moment. I just have 1155 01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:18.239 a hard time believing that if the Democrats can't pull 1156 01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:22.039 off something drastic right now. Now I don't mean today, 1157 01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:25.360 I mean like in the next election, if they cannot 1158 01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:29.079 put up somebody who is generally likable and also not 1159 01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:34.800 a sociopath, like doesn't identify with the crazy far far 1160 01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:37.960 leanings of the left, if they can find somebody who's 1161 01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:42.079 left of center and generally likable and has to be 1162 01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:45.719 more likable than whoever the Republicans put up, I have 1163 01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:48.800 a hard time seeing a Democrat ever winning an election 1164 01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:50.320 in this country, or at least not for the next 1165 01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:55.559 few decades. Because the entire Obama administration screwed the country. 1166 01:05:55.880 --> 01:06:00.280 We had a brief reprieve from that, and then the 1167 01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:04.199 Biden administration screwed the country even more. I just have 1168 01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:06.639 a hard time believing that these people in these swing 1169 01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:09.480 states are gonna allow that to take place again, unless 1170 01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:12.960 unless Trump just does something so egregious that it ruins 1171 01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:15.320 it for the entire Republican party. But at this point, 1172 01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:19.440 he stands by his rhetoric, like he if he says 1173 01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:22.840 something he does it, and he's he's the taflon Don. 1174 01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:25.880 Nothing sticks to him. He just does it and everybody 1175 01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:27.320 loves him for it. So I just have a hard 1176 01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:32.400 time seeing it. I don't know anyway. All right, let's 1177 01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:37.599 get to the chat here. Alex sent hungover. Alex sent 1178 01:06:37.679 --> 01:06:42.679 a picture of a very angry cat. Very angry cat. Okay, 1179 01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:47.320 Bernie and AOC are fucking brainless? Retard is a good 1180 01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:51.199 thing to call them? Yeah, No, I agree, I agree, yes, indeed. 1181 01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:54.280 All right, So before we go on to the next thing, 1182 01:06:54.320 --> 01:06:56.199 does anybody have anything else they would like to add 1183 01:06:56.199 --> 01:07:03.280 into the conversation at this time? Chilling? All right, dope. Well, 1184 01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:06.400 then let's go ahead and share the screen again this one. 1185 01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:10.519 As we're talking about the government corruption, as we're talking 1186 01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:13.199 about the things that are being brought to light these days. 1187 01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:18.239 Boy oh boy, Doze just keeps on finding the wild 1188 01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:22.760 things and bringing it to light, don't they. Children allegedly 1189 01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:29.519 scored millions in small business administration loans. Yeah. I heard 1190 01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:33.599 a brief little thing about this. I didn't know to 1191 01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:36.480 what level it was. I heard something about over three 1192 01:07:36.599 --> 01:07:39.519 hundred million dollars have been given in small business loans 1193 01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:41.280 to people under eleven years old. 1194 01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:42.239 Right? 1195 01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:47.880 I heard that, didn't know how true it was? My god, 1196 01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:50.360 is it true? A nine month old was given a 1197 01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:55.679 one hundred thousand dollars loan. Yeah, tax dollars. Let's get 1198 01:07:55.679 --> 01:07:58.320 into it, shall we. This was published March twenty fifth, 1199 01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:02.079 twenty twenty five. Either children are getting a major head 1200 01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:05.159 start on their careers or something fishy is going on 1201 01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:08.360 at the Small Business Administration. According to the Department of 1202 01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:13.199 Government Efficiency aka DOGE. Elon Musk and his team at 1203 01:08:13.239 --> 01:08:16.039 DOJE have already exposed how millions and even billions of 1204 01:08:16.119 --> 01:08:20.039 taxpayer dollars have been siphoned off to bankroll LGBT agendas, 1205 01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:25.319 abortion advocacy, diversity, equality and inclusion initiatives. But doje's latest 1206 01:08:25.319 --> 01:08:28.479 find is a real head scratcher. Over three hundred million 1207 01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:31.279 in SBA loans have been handed out to children under 1208 01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:34.319 eleven years old. This direct quote, as a matter of 1209 01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:38.159 fact from Musk. A case of fraud was with the 1210 01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:41.640 SBA where they were handing out loans three hundred and 1211 01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:44.520 thirty million dollars worth of loans to people under the 1212 01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:47.319 age of eleven. He said this during a cabinet meeting 1213 01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:50.640 on Monday. I think the youngest was a nine month 1214 01:08:50.680 --> 01:08:53.359 old who got a one hundred thousand dollars loan. That's 1215 01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:56.560 a very precocious baby we're talking about here. How a 1216 01:08:56.680 --> 01:08:59.680 nine month old security one hundred thousand dollars loan without 1217 01:08:59.800 --> 01:09:04.439 race red flags until now remains mysterious, doesn't it? Just 1218 01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:07.439 those one of those great mysteries that might get answered, 1219 01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:10.199 who knows, But those as new rules aims to stop 1220 01:09:10.239 --> 01:09:12.840 it from happening going forward. In a post on x 1221 01:09:12.920 --> 01:09:15.960 Doze wrote that from now on, the SBA would require 1222 01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:20.039 data birth collection for all direct loan applications and pause 1223 01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:24.319 the direct loan process for those under eighteen and above 1224 01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:27.680 one hundred and twenty years old. Well, I'm glad we're 1225 01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:31.000 at least putting a left and right lateral limit on that. 1226 01:09:31.079 --> 01:09:34.439 You know, with all those people getting Social Security checks 1227 01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:36.560 that are over two hundred years old and all that, 1228 01:09:37.079 --> 01:09:43.239 you know, it's a wild time, y'all. Anyway, basic sanity 1229 01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:45.960 checks like these are initial steps towards minimizing fraud and 1230 01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:50.039 the government paid payment programs. The Department wrote, the news 1231 01:09:50.039 --> 01:09:52.640 comes after dose already discovered millions of people over the 1232 01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:54.479 age of one hundred and twenty still marked as alive 1233 01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:57.319 in the Social Security database. In fact, earlier today, the 1234 01:09:57.359 --> 01:10:00.840 department posted on x for the past three weeks at 1235 01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:05.279 Social Security has been executing a major cleanup of their records. 1236 01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:11.520 Approximately seven million number holders, all listed aged one hundred 1237 01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:14.399 and twenty plus, have now been marked as de ceased. 1238 01:10:14.920 --> 01:10:20.600 Another five million to go, y'all there have been seven 1239 01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:23.399 million and five million more on that. So we're talking 1240 01:10:23.399 --> 01:10:28.600 about twelve million people who are no longer here that 1241 01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:32.359 have been receiving Social Security checks. And this is why 1242 01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:35.159 they say the Social Security is going to be bankrupt 1243 01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:38.000 by the time we get to retirement age. Like I mean, 1244 01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:40.119 don't get me wrong, I already thought it was going 1245 01:10:40.119 --> 01:10:42.439 to anyway. I didn't realize it was because of this 1246 01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:50.079 many people collecting checks that were, you know, dead. But yeah, okay. Uh. 1247 01:10:50.199 --> 01:10:53.119 Musk emphasized on his own posts, no more loans to 1248 01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:56.199 babies or people too old to be alive. Fox News 1249 01:10:56.239 --> 01:10:59.880 reported in greater detail that nearly five thousand, six hundred 1250 01:10:59.880 --> 01:11:02.640 loans were issued in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one 1251 01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:06.119 while the world struggled with the COVID nineteen pandemic, and 1252 01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:09.640 it is unclear what they were used for. Those had 1253 01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:12.000 stated in response that while it's possible to have a 1254 01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:15.920 business arrangement where this is legal, that is highly unlikely 1255 01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:20.199 for these fifty six hundred loans, as they all also 1256 01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:27.279 used a Social Security number with the incorrect name Oohkay shocker, 1257 01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:30.600 that they were using fake numbers and fake names to 1258 01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:37.359 get government loans that checks out, again, suggesting widespread identity 1259 01:11:37.399 --> 01:11:41.720 fraud rather than a sudden boom in toddler entrepreneurs. President 1260 01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:44.000 Donald Trump referred to this as nothing short of a 1261 01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:46.520 pure fraud, adding we would like to use the words 1262 01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:49.840 waste and abuse. According to Fox, Dose know that they 1263 01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:53.159 are working alongside the SBA to solve this problem this week. 1264 01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:57.319 In in addition to the SBA money waste, Dose continues 1265 01:11:57.359 --> 01:12:00.520 to find waste within the US Department of Agriculture. In fact, 1266 01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:05.239 also during Monday's cabinet meeting, USDA Secretary Brook Rawlins explained 1267 01:12:05.279 --> 01:12:09.560 how they have canceled a three hundred thousand dollars contract 1268 01:12:09.800 --> 01:12:14.640 educated contract educating on food justice for queer and transgender 1269 01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:22.159 farmers in San Francisco. Bro What a similar contract we 1270 01:12:22.239 --> 01:12:25.680 canceled in New York, again educating transgender and queer farmers 1271 01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:28.880 on food justice and food equality. I'm not even sure 1272 01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:31.439 what that means, but apparently the last administration wanted to 1273 01:12:31.439 --> 01:12:38.319 put our taxpayer dollars towards that. Yo. I'm not saying 1274 01:12:38.359 --> 01:12:44.000 that there's not LGBTQ plus two a question mark ELEMENTOP 1275 01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:48.800 farmers out there. I'm sure there are. I'm sure they 1276 01:12:48.840 --> 01:12:54.239 are in San Francisco. I have a hard time seeing 1277 01:12:54.279 --> 01:12:59.720 it certain parts of New York maybe, But why, what 1278 01:12:59.920 --> 01:13:03.880 is is what kind of educational material are you providing 1279 01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:06.000 for food justice and equality? 1280 01:13:07.279 --> 01:13:07.600 Food? 1281 01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:15.600 Food justice and food equality? I didn't like, Yeah, okay, 1282 01:13:15.640 --> 01:13:18.119 like you know, give me an example of that. Like, 1283 01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:21.000 all right, so let's say you're like a cow farmer. 1284 01:13:21.239 --> 01:13:24.720 You got you got heads of cattle? Cool? And do 1285 01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:28.840 you think the cows care if the cow han that's 1286 01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:32.720 doing the work on the farm identifies that the alphabet 1287 01:13:32.720 --> 01:13:36.800 people are not Like I just I don't understand, Raven, 1288 01:13:36.840 --> 01:13:38.079 Please help me out here. 1289 01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:45.600 It's actually about food justice and equality is about when 1290 01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:49.520 people will have the ability to be able to get 1291 01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:54.439 access to seeds, plants have a location to grow food 1292 01:13:54.479 --> 01:13:59.319 in having the community have enough diversity because there is 1293 01:13:59.399 --> 01:14:05.279 actually equity in food. Because a popular thing that is 1294 01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:08.359 well known is like if you go into a hood, 1295 01:14:08.399 --> 01:14:13.279 you're going to find tons of gas stations and pretty 1296 01:14:13.319 --> 01:14:16.840 much mini marts, and you will find hardly any places 1297 01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:20.319 to buy fresh food, period And if it is there, 1298 01:14:20.399 --> 01:14:24.760 it is actually increased in costs because it's better to 1299 01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:27.319 put the liquor stores in the hood than it is 1300 01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:31.880 to put a natural grocery store. And it's actually a 1301 01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:35.039 form of discrimination, and there's a lot to it, especially 1302 01:14:35.039 --> 01:14:39.479 in California. So when they talk about food justice, it's 1303 01:14:39.520 --> 01:14:46.000 being able to have the same accessible products and education 1304 01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:51.399 and stuff for LGBTQ plus community that isn't being hindered 1305 01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:56.319 by the CIS gender population pretty much is what it's 1306 01:14:56.359 --> 01:14:59.520 talking about. 1307 01:14:58.239 --> 01:15:00.560 In that point. As far as like like for example, 1308 01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:06.560 like you said, in certain inner city communities, right, you 1309 01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:09.159 have liquor stores and fast food chains, but you don't 1310 01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:12.319 have access to like really fresh produce. And I get that, right, 1311 01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:15.399 I get the food justice and all of that with you. 1312 01:15:17.520 --> 01:15:23.840 I was not. I was unaware that the LGBT alphabet 1313 01:15:23.960 --> 01:15:31.199 people were facing food discrimination. I honestly did not know that. 1314 01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:37.159 It's more or less the it's more or less the 1315 01:15:37.199 --> 01:15:41.680 farming and agricultural aspect of it, because outside of San Francisco. 1316 01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:46.079 You have knapp the valley and everything. And so if 1317 01:15:46.279 --> 01:15:50.439 the majority of the land is owned by CIS people 1318 01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:57.560 or straight leading people and they're shunning the LGBTQ plus 1319 01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:02.239 group and or block access to them because of their 1320 01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:07.680 sextual preference, that's what inherently those things are in place for. 1321 01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:10.640 And because it's outside of San Francisco, it's going to 1322 01:16:10.680 --> 01:16:16.439 be super liberal about giving a much like extra programs, 1323 01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:20.760 extra funding, extra dot dot dot is pretty much what's 1324 01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:25.199 in place with those type of programs for that marginalized community. 1325 01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:30.039 I hear you, and I fully hear what you're saying. 1326 01:16:32.199 --> 01:16:35.439 In San Francisco, being as liberal as it is, I 1327 01:16:35.560 --> 01:16:40.199 understand that talking point as well. I just the alphabet 1328 01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:46.119 people can't get access to decent farmland or produced beings. 1329 01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:50.520 Not It's not that it's that it's a it's an 1330 01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:55.600 equality measure that's been put into place. So it's not 1331 01:16:55.720 --> 01:17:00.079 stating that they can't, it's ensuring that they can. So 1332 01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:04.279 like if they are being discriminated for their sexual preference 1333 01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:10.359 or their gender or whatever they identify as those type 1334 01:17:10.399 --> 01:17:13.000 of policies are put into place to where they can't 1335 01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:17.479 be discriminated against because of dot dot dot, so it 1336 01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:22.960 allows them more accessibility to things if they would have 1337 01:17:23.039 --> 01:17:27.560 been blocked because of their because of that. So all 1338 01:17:27.600 --> 01:17:30.199 along the West Coast you have lots of policies like 1339 01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:34.880 that and like extra funding and things like that too. 1340 01:17:36.199 --> 01:17:40.279 I guess help in some way, but realistically I've never 1341 01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:42.880 seen it in San Francisco. I mean, yes, they do 1342 01:17:43.039 --> 01:17:46.159 have a lot of farmers that are of you know, 1343 01:17:46.279 --> 01:17:51.159 the community that sell natural lake, that sell groceries and stuff. 1344 01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:54.720 So it's just more or less it's instead of providing 1345 01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:58.840 it for the marginalized groups that have been inherently impacted 1346 01:17:58.920 --> 01:18:02.600 and have statistically been impacted, this is kind of like 1347 01:18:02.680 --> 01:18:06.760 a boost up because they get more votes and stuff 1348 01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:11.560 from that group, but they really should be looking. I mean, 1349 01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:14.000 I'm not saying to take that from them. I'm just 1350 01:18:14.039 --> 01:18:16.119 more or less saying that there is other groups that 1351 01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:20.520 have been stigmatized and for a long time proven that 1352 01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:22.520 they have been discriminated against. 1353 01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:27.039 So I agree, most of the gay people I know 1354 01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:29.439 are some of the cleanest eaters I know as well. 1355 01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:33.079 That's I guess I'm missing the connection here. I agree 1356 01:18:33.159 --> 01:18:36.560 that there are certain marginalized groups that like they need 1357 01:18:36.800 --> 01:18:41.039 to get better food and better nutrition. I am completely 1358 01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:44.960 missing how the Alphabet crew is a part of that 1359 01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:49.039 marginalized group. I maybe I'm just maybe I'm just like 1360 01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:52.520 got a horrible perspective on this one. I don't know, 1361 01:18:52.600 --> 01:18:57.439 but okay, okay, fair enough, Tony Well. 1362 01:18:58.920 --> 01:19:02.079 I grew up in the Sanford Cisco Bay Area from 1363 01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:06.479 nineteen eighty eight to twenty twenty, and I would totally 1364 01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:11.439 agree with you that it's a pretty gentrified area. And 1365 01:19:11.720 --> 01:19:14.279 most of the time it was the more left leaning 1366 01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:18.840 people who were more into eating whole foods and they 1367 01:19:18.840 --> 01:19:23.119 were into the what is now make America Healthy Again 1368 01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:26.640 ten or twenty years ago, when right wingers were more 1369 01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:30.399 okay with I don't know, processed foods at that time. 1370 01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:33.520 In my opinion, and personally, I don't think that gay 1371 01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:37.439 people have been very discriminated against in the Bay Area 1372 01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:41.520 in my lifetime. But I can totally understand why business 1373 01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:43.560 owners would check that box to say, oh, yeah, I'm 1374 01:19:43.600 --> 01:19:49.800 combating discrimination against you underprivileged communities so that I can 1375 01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:51.960 get a loan at a better interest rate from the 1376 01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:55.960 government than having to go to my bank. So I 1377 01:19:56.000 --> 01:20:00.399 think that's all that's going on here. Yeah, the Bay 1378 01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:04.399 Area there's not much agriculture, and especially around San Francisco, 1379 01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:08.520 I guess it's getting very gentrified too in general. But 1380 01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:12.079 pour neighborhoods I think, are the place where you would 1381 01:20:12.159 --> 01:20:15.640 find more of these food deserts and inability. 1382 01:20:15.079 --> 01:20:16.479 To access. 1383 01:20:17.439 --> 01:20:21.079 Grocery stores as opposed to convenience stores. But then again, 1384 01:20:21.319 --> 01:20:23.199 part of me thinks that that also comes down to 1385 01:20:23.279 --> 01:20:25.680 individual choice too, So I don't know whether to blame 1386 01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:29.000 the system or the individual on that front when I see. 1387 01:20:28.840 --> 01:20:31.920 People by the look for sure, but I mean it's 1388 01:20:31.960 --> 01:20:34.079 hard to argue whenever a slice of pizza costs you 1389 01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:36.439 a dollar fifty, when a salad cost you four dollars. 1390 01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:39.720 So mean, I see that as well. Even if it 1391 01:20:39.760 --> 01:20:42.479 is available, they jack of the price is so high 1392 01:20:42.600 --> 01:20:45.479 that only certain people can even afford to eat it, 1393 01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:48.840 and especially in certain downtronic communities. I see the arguments. 1394 01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:49.600 I absolutely do. 1395 01:20:51.800 --> 01:20:54.760 Yeah, it's also become an issue recently. You probably saw 1396 01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:59.079 on Twitter last week conservative influencers saying that we shouldn't 1397 01:20:59.279 --> 01:21:04.119 remove coke cola and pepsi from Snap benefits. I don't 1398 01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:08.279 know if that came up already, but yeah, I'm all 1399 01:21:08.279 --> 01:21:11.960 in favor of removing it because it's pretty cheap anyway, 1400 01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:15.159 and if people want to buy it, you know they 1401 01:21:15.159 --> 01:21:15.640 can do that. 1402 01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:17.439 But what are your thoughts on that? 1403 01:21:20.039 --> 01:21:26.079 Okay, knee jerk reaction. I agree that junk food should 1404 01:21:26.079 --> 01:21:28.760 not be allowed to be bought with snap benefits and 1405 01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:34.039 wick and these things. I agree. Right that being said, 1406 01:21:36.079 --> 01:21:39.239 when we get into the business of deciding what foods 1407 01:21:39.239 --> 01:21:42.560 can and cannot be bought with these things, there's going 1408 01:21:42.600 --> 01:21:44.880 to be people at the top that are going to 1409 01:21:44.920 --> 01:21:46.920 say it's only going to be beans and rice or 1410 01:21:47.039 --> 01:21:49.279 rice and beans, and they're only going to go off 1411 01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:53.319 of the subsistence foods, which we can agree to a 1412 01:21:53.319 --> 01:21:57.760 certain level here, but also that's a whole other way 1413 01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:00.760 of keeping the nutrition down. You see what I'm saying now, 1414 01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:04.399 I'm not when you start doing blanket policies on shit 1415 01:22:04.560 --> 01:22:07.920 like this, it never goes in a positive direction. So 1416 01:22:08.039 --> 01:22:11.720 while I agree that we could restrict certain things, like 1417 01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:14.199 nobody who's doing snap benefit should be buying steak and 1418 01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:17.760 lobster like, I think we can at least acknowledge that much, 1419 01:22:18.239 --> 01:22:20.640 But I also don't want them relegated to only buying 1420 01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:23.800 the cheapest materials in the grocery store either. There's got 1421 01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:25.800 to be a little bit of a balance here. You know, 1422 01:22:26.279 --> 01:22:28.840 it's I don't know, I don't really have the answers 1423 01:22:28.880 --> 01:22:33.319 for it. I agree with the overarching theme here, go ahead, Raven. 1424 01:22:35.920 --> 01:22:40.760 There's when I lived in Colorado, the SNAP people that 1425 01:22:40.840 --> 01:22:43.800 got food stamps and stuff, they actually had a program 1426 01:22:44.319 --> 01:22:47.279 where if they bought healthy food, they would actually get 1427 01:22:47.319 --> 01:22:53.319 a portion of return back to promote a healthy household. 1428 01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:58.000 So they got like everything was every item was added 1429 01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:00.439 up and they would get a portion of it and 1430 01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:03.359 then you would get a little like kick back at 1431 01:23:03.359 --> 01:23:05.880 the end of the month showing how much like healthy 1432 01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:08.439 food that you bought. I think that's a really good 1433 01:23:08.479 --> 01:23:14.359 way to support buying healthier food. I think it's really 1434 01:23:14.359 --> 01:23:18.600 difficult for a lot of people in those circumstances that 1435 01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:22.520 need to buy a massive amount of food. And it's 1436 01:23:22.680 --> 01:23:26.199 challenging because you're talking like they want to buy chicken, 1437 01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:31.560 but those, you know, instead of real chicken, chicken nuggets 1438 01:23:31.560 --> 01:23:34.560 are so much cheaper and they can get more. And 1439 01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:38.439 it's kind of like a weird situation of like, you know, 1440 01:23:38.520 --> 01:23:40.920 you want to eat healthy, but also you can't afford it. 1441 01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:44.840 Like the rest of everybody that's struggling. I like the 1442 01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:48.399 kickback program, but I also think that like buying candy, 1443 01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:55.119 buying pop, buying things like that shouldn't be allowed because statistically, 1444 01:23:55.159 --> 01:23:58.239 if you look at the data, it shows that the majority, 1445 01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:01.720 vast majority of people that are on some type of 1446 01:24:02.640 --> 01:24:06.920 wick or or snap or something like that is overweight 1447 01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:10.800 and struggling with obesity and health problems. And is that 1448 01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:13.680 due to a cultural thing, is that due to the 1449 01:24:13.800 --> 01:24:17.720 environment what they can and can't afford. Like, there's not 1450 01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:22.079 enough data on that really to show truthfully what's causing it. 1451 01:24:22.119 --> 01:24:25.760 I mean, we all have our bias and opinions on it, 1452 01:24:25.840 --> 01:24:30.000 but realistically we don't know for certain what is causing it. 1453 01:24:30.039 --> 01:24:33.640 But we do know that statistically it does show that 1454 01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:37.199 a lot of people are struggling with being obese that 1455 01:24:37.239 --> 01:24:40.560 are getting benefits. Though, I think that there should be 1456 01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:44.920 some type of regulation and program put into place to 1457 01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:48.439 try to help push towards healthier options for people. 1458 01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:51.800 Now I didn't know that there was a kickback program 1459 01:24:51.880 --> 01:24:55.199 in place. That's a brilliant idea as a matter of fact, 1460 01:24:55.239 --> 01:24:57.239 and just let let the tips fall where they may. 1461 01:24:57.680 --> 01:25:01.159 But then not most states, right, not in most states, 1462 01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:04.760 But I could see a world where every state takes 1463 01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:07.159 on a version of that one hundred percent. But then 1464 01:25:07.239 --> 01:25:10.960 even still, then we get into the argument like, well, 1465 01:25:11.039 --> 01:25:14.039 steak is healthy, why can't I use it to get steak? 1466 01:25:14.079 --> 01:25:16.640 And it's like, okay, you see what. There's gonna be 1467 01:25:16.680 --> 01:25:19.279 people that are trying to gain the system in any 1468 01:25:19.319 --> 01:25:22.119 way they can, and you're gonna have that with every system, right, 1469 01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:24.960 and you're gonna have somebody classify, well, what is considered 1470 01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:29.399 quote unquote healthy. But look at the balloons. Apparently when 1471 01:25:29.439 --> 01:25:31.079 you do this, that's how you get the balloons to 1472 01:25:31.079 --> 01:25:33.399 come up out of nowhere. Y'all the air quotes that 1473 01:25:33.479 --> 01:25:36.239 makes it happen. Who knew. But there's gonna be people 1474 01:25:36.279 --> 01:25:38.239 trying to game the system, and I don't like that either, 1475 01:25:38.319 --> 01:25:40.239 But that's the thing. When there's a blanket policy in place, 1476 01:25:40.279 --> 01:25:43.159 there's always gonna be that area of grain those people 1477 01:25:43.159 --> 01:25:46.199 trying to skirt it. I do think that every state 1478 01:25:46.319 --> 01:25:48.960 doing like that, having a kickback program would be an 1479 01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:51.039 excellent way to at least get the ball rolling in 1480 01:25:51.079 --> 01:25:54.920 the right direction. But yes, also, Tony, to answer your point, 1481 01:25:55.199 --> 01:26:01.520 I agree that uh, soft drinks and candy and overtly 1482 01:26:01.680 --> 01:26:04.920 junk food items should absolutely not be allowed to be 1483 01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:09.319 bought with these types of these types of government checks 1484 01:26:09.479 --> 01:26:11.520 for sure, or ebt cards or whatever the case is, 1485 01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:15.800 for sure. So anyway, Yeah, so as far as the 1486 01:26:16.119 --> 01:26:20.279 business loans to children, that's that's a whole new thing. Now, 1487 01:26:20.600 --> 01:26:24.640 three hundred and thirty million isn't that much in comparison 1488 01:26:24.680 --> 01:26:27.119 to all the other wasteful spending that has been going on. 1489 01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:29.640 But again, I feel like that's more of a symptom 1490 01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:33.319 of the problem than the actual problem itself. Tony, go ahead. 1491 01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:37.279 Yeah, I got one other comment on this from about, 1492 01:26:37.720 --> 01:26:40.279 you know, ninety years ago. My grandfather told me he 1493 01:26:40.359 --> 01:26:44.800 grew up near a Capuchin monastery and they would this 1494 01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:48.720 was in Bavaria, Germany. They would have a policy never 1495 01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:52.520 to turn away a hungry baker, but if you ever 1496 01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:54.840 asked them for food, they would give you a place, 1497 01:26:54.920 --> 01:26:57.720 a piece of plain bread with no butter or anything 1498 01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:00.399 on it, because the whole idea was, if you're really hungry, 1499 01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:03.560 you'll be happy with this. Yeah, and you know, I 1500 01:27:04.039 --> 01:27:07.800 know it's an old timey, you know, nostalgia story, but 1501 01:27:09.119 --> 01:27:11.920 you know, I'm not advocating anything quite that's strict for 1502 01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:15.520 people on snap sure, but there's got to be some understanding, 1503 01:27:16.119 --> 01:27:17.479 you know, something along those lines. 1504 01:27:17.479 --> 01:27:18.520 Anyway, That's all I got. 1505 01:27:18.960 --> 01:27:21.000 No, No, I think there's something to be said for that, 1506 01:27:21.159 --> 01:27:24.159 for sure, right. It's I've said this story before too. 1507 01:27:24.199 --> 01:27:26.279 When I was stationed in d C. Right when I 1508 01:27:26.279 --> 01:27:28.760 would go down to the little local seven eleven, there 1509 01:27:28.760 --> 01:27:31.920 would be homeless people outside begging, and it was very 1510 01:27:32.039 --> 01:27:34.600 rare that I would give them money. But usually with 1511 01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:36.760 the seven eleven was across the street from the subway, 1512 01:27:37.319 --> 01:27:39.920 and if these people were asking for food or for 1513 01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:41.520 money or whatever, I would say, hey, look, I don't 1514 01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:44.199 have any cash. Owing back out my card. If you want, 1515 01:27:44.279 --> 01:27:45.680 I'll bring it over to the subway here and I'll 1516 01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:49.039 get you a sandwich. Most of them would be grateful 1517 01:27:49.359 --> 01:27:51.079 and they would go and they would get a sandwich. 1518 01:27:51.079 --> 01:27:54.159 And I had no problems doing that. Of course, not 1519 01:27:54.279 --> 01:27:57.000 somebody's hungry. I'm not going to turn them away. But 1520 01:27:57.039 --> 01:27:59.600 there were a few that whenever you would do that 1521 01:27:59.640 --> 01:28:02.000 and say, they'd be like, no, no, I need food, man, 1522 01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:04.119 I need money, And it's like, well, I don't have 1523 01:28:04.159 --> 01:28:06.199 that for you, and then they would start cussing you out, 1524 01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:09.439 and it's like, well, I guess you really don't need 1525 01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:12.199 it that badly Because I can't help you pay your 1526 01:28:12.239 --> 01:28:15.159 rent tonight or buy your next hit of your addiction. 1527 01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:18.359 I can make sure you don't starve today. But you're 1528 01:28:18.439 --> 01:28:19.840 right one hundred percent. I think. 1529 01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:20.199 Yeah. 1530 01:28:20.840 --> 01:28:23.680 And my grandpa and his friends being somewhat delinquent and 1531 01:28:23.840 --> 01:28:26.840 you know, troublemakers, they would go and just ask for food, 1532 01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:28.880 and the monks knew they were faking it, and they 1533 01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:31.680 would just say, okay, okay, here's your slice of plain bread. 1534 01:28:32.119 --> 01:28:35.159 Have fun with that. So discouraged too many kids from 1535 01:28:35.159 --> 01:28:35.560 doing that. 1536 01:28:36.119 --> 01:28:39.560 Oh man, I love it. I love it so Uh. 1537 01:28:39.720 --> 01:28:42.920 Back to the small business loan thing, I had no 1538 01:28:43.039 --> 01:28:46.800 idea that there was no age restrictions on business loans 1539 01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:49.079 up until this point. And I guess it depends on 1540 01:28:49.119 --> 01:28:53.119 the the loan officer and the bank itself for the 1541 01:28:53.159 --> 01:28:55.079 credit union stuff or whatever the case may be. But 1542 01:28:55.760 --> 01:29:00.319 even still government loans for small businesses over three hundred 1543 01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:04.359 million dollars. That is ridiculous. But I'm also glad that 1544 01:29:04.439 --> 01:29:07.279 it has been brought to light. Dose is still doing 1545 01:29:07.319 --> 01:29:09.760 dose things, and it's bringing up more of this waste, 1546 01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:13.279 fraud and abuse. And as we're talking about money going 1547 01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:16.760 in these crazy locations and crazy directions. Let's take a 1548 01:29:16.760 --> 01:29:20.439 little segue into what North Korea just did. This the 1549 01:29:20.840 --> 01:29:24.239 biggest crypto heist in history, which I mean granted crypto 1550 01:29:24.319 --> 01:29:26.239 hadn't been around that long, so I mean take that 1551 01:29:26.279 --> 01:29:30.439 forward as forth. But one point five billion. Let's learn more. 1552 01:29:32.199 --> 01:29:35.520 North Korea just stole one point five billion dollars of 1553 01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:40.359 cryptocurrency in the largest crypto heist in history. Wait, North Korea, 1554 01:29:40.600 --> 01:29:42.840 this hermit kingdom that looks like it's like stuck in 1555 01:29:42.840 --> 01:29:43.439 the fifties. 1556 01:29:43.560 --> 01:29:44.319 How did they do this? 1557 01:29:44.520 --> 01:29:47.319 Well, the target was by Bit, this crypto trading platform 1558 01:29:47.359 --> 01:29:50.520 which bolds billions of dollars worth of its customer's assets 1559 01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:53.800 in a reserve. They routinely transferred some of this money 1560 01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:57.439 from their reserve vault into the active exchange. But North 1561 01:29:57.479 --> 01:30:02.840 Korean hackers used a sophisticated combination of malware fishing, credential theft, 1562 01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:05.960 and a bunch of other techniques to quietly infiltrate the system. 1563 01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:08.920 It allows them to hijack this process of transferring money 1564 01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:11.119 from the reserves to the exchange and divert a ton 1565 01:30:11.199 --> 01:30:15.479 of the cryptocurrency ethereum to their wallets, instantly, making North 1566 01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:18.479 Korea one point five billion dollars richer so one nor 1567 01:30:18.600 --> 01:30:20.199 Crea is kind of stuck in the past. They have 1568 01:30:20.319 --> 01:30:23.000 an army of very sophisticated hackers, if you want to 1569 01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:23.640 better understand. 1570 01:30:25.159 --> 01:30:28.479 Okay, so North Korea is not just the hermit kingdom 1571 01:30:28.520 --> 01:30:31.079 that's living in the Stone Age anymore. They have figured 1572 01:30:31.079 --> 01:30:35.159 out some technology as far as how to do crypto heists. 1573 01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:37.960 So let's go ahead and read this little article here. Ethereum, 1574 01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:40.520 by the way, is not a small crypto coin. I 1575 01:30:40.560 --> 01:30:43.520 don't know much about crypto. I am not somebody who 1576 01:30:43.560 --> 01:30:46.319 deals in it. I don't own any of it. I 1577 01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:48.199 don't really deal with it, right the same way I 1578 01:30:48.199 --> 01:30:51.840 don't really deal with the stock exchange. I'm so notoriously 1579 01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:54.640 bad at gambling that if I put any money into 1580 01:30:54.680 --> 01:30:56.920 a coin or into a stock, it's almost a guarantee 1581 01:30:56.960 --> 01:30:59.560 it's gonna tank. So I just don't mess with it personally. 1582 01:31:00.119 --> 01:31:02.239 But there are a lot of people that have put 1583 01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:05.319 a lot of their nest egg into crypto these days 1584 01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:08.720 in North Korea, just through hacking, and apparently this is 1585 01:31:08.760 --> 01:31:10.960 all able to be tracked through the blockchain, so they 1586 01:31:11.079 --> 01:31:13.359 know for a fact that it was North Korea hackers 1587 01:31:13.680 --> 01:31:16.159 who stole one point five billion and that's just gone. 1588 01:31:16.800 --> 01:31:18.760 That is just off the market. They're not getting that 1589 01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:22.600 money back, so who Let's learn more about it here 1590 01:31:24.039 --> 01:31:26.479 how North Korea pulled off a one point five billion 1591 01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:30.119 dollar crypto heist, the biggest in history. And again crypto, 1592 01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:32.439 I've been around that long, so I mean how deep 1593 01:31:32.439 --> 01:31:34.399 of a history we're talking. But neither here nor there. 1594 01:31:35.399 --> 01:31:38.680 The cryptocurrency industry and those responsible for securing it are 1595 01:31:38.720 --> 01:31:42.239 still in shock following Friday's heist, likely by North Korea, 1596 01:31:42.319 --> 01:31:45.720 that drained one point five billion from Dubai based exchange 1597 01:31:45.760 --> 01:31:49.000 by bit, making the theft by far the biggest ever 1598 01:31:49.079 --> 01:31:53.720 in digital asset history. By Bit officially disclosed the theft 1599 01:31:53.760 --> 01:31:58.239 of more than four hundred thousand ethereum and staked ethereum 1600 01:31:58.279 --> 01:32:02.119 coins just hours after it. The notification said the digital 1601 01:32:02.159 --> 01:32:10.640 loot had been stored in a mold yeah, mullstig cold wallet. 1602 01:32:10.800 --> 01:32:12.439 For a second, I couldn't sell if that was an 1603 01:32:12.600 --> 01:32:14.720 l or just a really weird looking tea. My eyes 1604 01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:17.039 are going bad, ladies and gentlemen, I need to get glasses. 1605 01:32:17.119 --> 01:32:20.399 Neither he nor there. Uh, it was stored in a 1606 01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:23.600 cold wallet when somehow it was transferred to one of 1607 01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:27.239 the exchange's hot wallets UH. From there, the cryptocurrency was 1608 01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:30.760 transferred out of by bit altogether and into wallets controlled 1609 01:32:30.760 --> 01:32:34.800 by the unknown attackers. This wallet is too hot, This 1610 01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:38.319 one is too cold. Researchers for the blockchain analysis from 1611 01:32:39.279 --> 01:32:43.520 oh jeeseus I gotta get close to this elliptic, among others, 1612 01:32:43.560 --> 01:32:46.439 said over the weekend that the techniques and flow of 1613 01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:49.680 the subsequent laundering of the funds bear the signature of 1614 01:32:49.840 --> 01:32:53.119 threat actors working on behalf of North Korea. The revelation 1615 01:32:53.239 --> 01:32:58.000 comes as a little surprise since the isolation nation isolated 1616 01:32:58.199 --> 01:33:02.079 nation rather has long maintained a thriving cryptocurrency theft racket, 1617 01:33:02.159 --> 01:33:05.079 in large part to pay for its weapons of mass 1618 01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:09.920 destruction program UH. The coal wallets, also known as mulstig 1619 01:33:10.479 --> 01:33:14.880 multi sig safes excuse me, are among the gold standard 1620 01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:19.680 for securing large sums of cryptocurrency well obviously not obviously not. 1621 01:33:20.720 --> 01:33:24.680 More shortly about how the threat actors cleared this tall hurdle. First, 1622 01:33:24.880 --> 01:33:28.119 a little about coal wallets and multi sig coal wallets 1623 01:33:28.159 --> 01:33:33.079 and how they secure cryptocurrency against theft wallets are accounts 1624 01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:36.520 that use strong encryption to store bitcoin, ethereum, or any 1625 01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:41.000 other form of cryptocurrency. These wallets are assigned to encryption 1626 01:33:41.199 --> 01:33:46.000 key pair and encryption keypair. The public key servers serves 1627 01:33:46.039 --> 01:33:49.840 as the wallet addresses, so others know how to find it, 1628 01:33:49.920 --> 01:33:52.840 although some account holders opt to keep it private. The 1629 01:33:52.880 --> 01:33:55.279 private portion of the key pair, meanwhile, is a long 1630 01:33:55.720 --> 01:33:59.119 alphanumeric string required to move funds out of the wallets, 1631 01:34:00.039 --> 01:34:02.960 transfers require hot wallets. These are accounts that are always 1632 01:34:02.960 --> 01:34:06.520 connected to the Internet and store the private key. Over 1633 01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:09.079 the past decade, hot wallets have been drained of digital 1634 01:34:09.800 --> 01:34:14.199 digital coins, supposedly worth billions, if not trillions of dollars. Typically, 1635 01:34:14.279 --> 01:34:17.199 these attacks have resulted from the thief somehow obtaining the 1636 01:34:17.199 --> 01:34:20.640 private key and emptying the wallet before owners know that 1637 01:34:20.640 --> 01:34:24.600 the key has been compromised. Given the vulnerability of hot 1638 01:34:24.600 --> 01:34:27.880 wallets to theft, many account holders store the private keys 1639 01:34:27.960 --> 01:34:31.760 offline so they are kept separate from the addresses. These 1640 01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:34.600 coal wallets can store jeez, I Hate the Things moves 1641 01:34:34.600 --> 01:34:37.239 because of an ad These coal wallets can store the 1642 01:34:37.279 --> 01:34:40.399 offline private keys in different ways. The most secure practice 1643 01:34:40.439 --> 01:34:42.800 is to secure the key in a special purpose piece 1644 01:34:42.840 --> 01:34:45.960 of hardware, often in the form of a USB dongle. 1645 01:34:47.199 --> 01:34:50.640 Dongle is that what they call a flash drive these days, okay, 1646 01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:54.880 that will decrypt them only when certain authentication steps occur. 1647 01:34:55.640 --> 01:34:58.439 Multi sig coal wallets go a step further, in much 1648 01:34:58.479 --> 01:35:01.239 the same way that the nuclear arm systems are designed 1649 01:35:01.279 --> 01:35:04.760 to require two or more authorized people to successfully authenticate 1650 01:35:04.800 --> 01:35:08.319 themselves before a missile can be launched. Multi sig wallets 1651 01:35:08.399 --> 01:35:11.720 need the digital signatures of two or more authorized people 1652 01:35:11.720 --> 01:35:16.600 before assets can be accessed by bit was largely followed 1653 01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:20.600 best practices by strong only as much currency as needed 1654 01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:23.399 for day to day activity in warm and hot wallets 1655 01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:27.000 and keeping the rest in a multiicig coal wallet. Transferring funds 1656 01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:29.920 out of the coal wallet required coordinated approval from multi 1657 01:35:30.439 --> 01:35:35.479 multiple high level employees of the exchange. Again apparently not 1658 01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:40.479 immediate speculation was that somehow the drained coal wallets or 1659 01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:44.600 the infrastructure hosting it provided by a company called Safe, 1660 01:35:44.960 --> 01:35:48.800 had been somehow compromised. This theory was plausible enough, since 1661 01:35:48.840 --> 01:35:52.960 these sorts of thefts are usually accomplished by exploring vulnerabilities 1662 01:35:52.960 --> 01:35:57.279 in the code enforcing cryptocurrency smart contracts or the infrastructure 1663 01:35:57.279 --> 01:36:00.640 hosting them. The speculation was also consistent with the accounts 1664 01:36:00.640 --> 01:36:04.880 from bybit employees that according to Safe the user the 1665 01:36:05.079 --> 01:36:08.560 user coal wallet interfaces for the affective by bit employees 1666 01:36:08.840 --> 01:36:14.359 displayed the correct appearing transaction information, yet a malicious transaction 1667 01:36:14.600 --> 01:36:19.520 that had all valid signatures was executed on chain. Safe 1668 01:36:19.560 --> 01:36:22.640 also paused that safe wallet services following the attack, and 1669 01:36:22.760 --> 01:36:27.079 this story went live on ours has begun a phased 1670 01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:31.399 rollout to restore them. This theory was ruled out after 1671 01:36:31.439 --> 01:36:34.960 a subsequent investigation by Safe found no signs of unauthorized 1672 01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:38.880 access to its infrastructure, no compromises to other safe wallets, 1673 01:36:39.119 --> 01:36:43.359 and no obvious vulnerabilities in the safe codebase. An investigator 1674 01:36:43.840 --> 01:36:47.000 continued to dig in, they finally settled on the true cause. 1675 01:36:47.439 --> 01:36:50.840 By Bit ultimately said that the fraudulent transaction was a 1676 01:36:51.439 --> 01:36:56.039 manipulated by a sophisticated attack that altered the smart contract 1677 01:36:56.119 --> 01:36:59.640 logic and massed the signing interface, enabling the attacker to 1678 01:36:59.680 --> 01:37:02.359 gain case control of the etch cold wallet. 1679 01:37:03.359 --> 01:37:03.960 Wow. 1680 01:37:04.640 --> 01:37:09.479 Okay, shattering assumptions. Now. What that means is that the 1681 01:37:09.640 --> 01:37:12.680 multiple systems inside by a bit had been hacked in 1682 01:37:12.720 --> 01:37:15.159 a way that allowed the attackers to manipulate the safe 1683 01:37:15.199 --> 01:37:18.760 wallet UI on the device of each person required to 1684 01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:22.680 approve the transfer. That revelation, in turn, has touched off 1685 01:37:22.720 --> 01:37:26.439 something of a Eureka moment for many in the industry. 1686 01:37:27.119 --> 01:37:30.520 There's a quote here. The by bit hack has shattered 1687 01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:35.520 long hailed assumptions about cryptosecurity, researchers at the security firm 1688 01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:39.000 Checkpoint wrote on Sunday, no matter how strong your smart 1689 01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:42.640 contact logic or multi sig protections are, the human element 1690 01:37:42.680 --> 01:37:46.720 remains its weakest link. This attack proves that UI manipulation 1691 01:37:47.159 --> 01:37:51.520 and social engineering can bypass even the most secure wallets. 1692 01:37:51.880 --> 01:37:54.279 It's still unclear how the attackers managed to hack the 1693 01:37:54.399 --> 01:37:57.920 UIs of multiple by bit employees whose signatures were required 1694 01:37:57.960 --> 01:38:00.159 for the funds to be moved out of the cold storage, 1695 01:38:00.239 --> 01:38:04.800 but as researchers Dan Guido, Benjamin Samuels and a Niche 1696 01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:09.000 Nike Nick Whatever of security firm Trail of Bits noted, 1697 01:38:09.279 --> 01:38:11.920 hackers working on behalf of the North Korean government have 1698 01:38:12.039 --> 01:38:17.039 long deployed sophisticated malware tools that operate seamlessly across Windows, 1699 01:38:17.039 --> 01:38:20.720 mac os, and various wallet interfaces, show minimal signs of 1700 01:38:20.760 --> 01:38:25.520 compromises while maintaining persistence, function as back doors to executive 1701 01:38:25.600 --> 01:38:31.720 arbitrary commands, download and execute additional malicious payloads, and manipulate 1702 01:38:31.800 --> 01:38:34.199 what users see in their interfaces. 1703 01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:35.159 WHOA. 1704 01:38:36.079 --> 01:38:38.760 These hackers have also been long known for the relentless 1705 01:38:38.760 --> 01:38:42.159 social engineering prowess. They often spend weeks or months building 1706 01:38:42.199 --> 01:38:45.680 online personas that ultimately win the trust of targets. The 1707 01:38:45.720 --> 01:38:48.680 persistence likely allowed the thieves who hit by bit to 1708 01:38:48.760 --> 01:38:52.520 somehow tamper with the UIs of each company employee whose 1709 01:38:52.560 --> 01:38:57.760 digital imprinture im premature sure was required to move the 1710 01:38:57.800 --> 01:39:00.680 funds out of cold storage and ultimately into the wallets 1711 01:39:00.720 --> 01:39:04.840 of the hackers controlled at all, all at breakneck speed. 1712 01:39:05.680 --> 01:39:09.399 As both Checkpoint and Trailer Bits pointed out, the lessons 1713 01:39:09.479 --> 01:39:12.399 learned here bring cryptocurrency security back to some of the 1714 01:39:12.479 --> 01:39:17.479 most basic elements, such as segmenting internal networks, adopting defense 1715 01:39:17.600 --> 01:39:22.239 in depth practices that include multiple overlapped in controls for 1716 01:39:22.439 --> 01:39:26.880 detecting and preventing sophisticated attacks, and preparing for scenarios precisely 1717 01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:32.920 like this one. WHOA. So essentially they went all the 1718 01:39:32.960 --> 01:39:39.239 way through to Essentially, I might be misunderstanding here. They 1719 01:39:39.279 --> 01:39:44.239 went as far as to show up with the correct 1720 01:39:44.279 --> 01:39:48.680 identifiers as if they were the employees themselves and backdoored 1721 01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:53.199 it that way to steal this. Wow. I didn't know 1722 01:39:53.239 --> 01:39:59.039 North Korea was that that tech literate. You know, you 1723 01:39:59.039 --> 01:40:02.000 wouldn't think so much as we see them falling on 1724 01:40:02.039 --> 01:40:04.319 their faces with their like missile programs and stuff. But 1725 01:40:04.319 --> 01:40:06.920 I guess missiles and crypto are not in the same ballpark. 1726 01:40:06.960 --> 01:40:11.600 I get that, but like, wow, okay, well there you 1727 01:40:11.680 --> 01:40:15.319 have it. North Korea absolutely just jacked one point five 1728 01:40:15.439 --> 01:40:19.800 billion from a Dubai based cryptocurrency and there is nothing 1729 01:40:19.800 --> 01:40:21.960 that can be done about this. Wait a minute, hold on, 1730 01:40:21.960 --> 01:40:23.520 you know, I'm gonna go ahead and stop sharing for 1731 01:40:23.600 --> 01:40:25.680 just a second so we can I'm gonna catch up 1732 01:40:25.680 --> 01:40:28.720 on the check. There's been a few a few memes 1733 01:40:28.720 --> 01:40:31.560 shared as well, so technically most of the first man 1734 01:40:31.600 --> 01:40:33.840 to download files from the cloud using a tablet. 1735 01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:34.199 Ah. 1736 01:40:34.319 --> 01:40:43.680 I like that, Royce. Wat's see here all the guns 1737 01:40:43.720 --> 01:40:45.800 I would buy with that much money? Yoh, no doubt. 1738 01:40:47.279 --> 01:40:49.600 I briefly worked on a farm, but that was in Pa. 1739 01:40:49.760 --> 01:40:54.279 This point is shut up, Alex. One of the painful 1740 01:40:54.319 --> 01:40:57.359 signs of years of dumb down education is how many 1741 01:40:57.359 --> 01:41:00.560 people are unable to make a coherent argument. They convent 1742 01:41:00.640 --> 01:41:04.880 their emotions. Question other people's motives, make bold assertions, repeat slogans, 1743 01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:09.319 anything except reason. Yeah, I gotta agree with that, Royce. Absolutely, 1744 01:41:09.960 --> 01:41:12.640 my good buddy is currently working outside the border in 1745 01:41:12.680 --> 01:41:17.079 North Korea. Oh, no doubt in the navy. Um, I 1746 01:41:17.119 --> 01:41:21.560 can't tell what that picture is there, Alex Liberal Lou 1747 01:41:21.640 --> 01:41:24.680 for sensitive assholes. Ha, that's funny. I do love the memes. 1748 01:41:24.680 --> 01:41:26.960 And again, for anybody listening to this on the following day, 1749 01:41:26.960 --> 01:41:28.760 if you would like to see these memes, I'm trying 1750 01:41:28.800 --> 01:41:31.119 to read them. I'm not doing them justice. You should 1751 01:41:31.119 --> 01:41:33.640 come and check us out on Patreon at the Cajun 1752 01:41:33.720 --> 01:41:38.439 nightlink in the description below. I say again, Okay, so 1753 01:41:39.239 --> 01:41:44.800 essentially no crypto is secure. I'm personally not shocked by this. 1754 01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:47.640 I'm not a fan of crypto. Again, I gave my 1755 01:41:47.680 --> 01:41:51.319 whole bias to that at the beginning of this, But yeah, 1756 01:41:51.479 --> 01:41:55.159 North Korean hackers just stole what was Ethereum is a 1757 01:41:55.159 --> 01:41:57.920 bigger coin if I'm not mistaken, and you would think 1758 01:41:57.960 --> 01:42:02.560 that that would be relatively secure, and that's just gone now. 1759 01:42:03.399 --> 01:42:05.439 I doubt that anybody is there even such a thing 1760 01:42:05.439 --> 01:42:08.199 as crypto insurance, Like if some sort of a crypto 1761 01:42:08.319 --> 01:42:11.319 theft happens. Is there any kind of safety net to 1762 01:42:11.319 --> 01:42:13.279 where you can get some of your investment back or 1763 01:42:13.359 --> 01:42:15.800 is that just gone to the wind? I feel like 1764 01:42:15.840 --> 01:42:16.720 it's just gone right. 1765 01:42:18.800 --> 01:42:21.720 Who knows? But did they try to steal from everybody? 1766 01:42:21.760 --> 01:42:24.760 Or was it who did they steal it from? Like 1767 01:42:25.520 --> 01:42:26.439 which individual? 1768 01:42:27.079 --> 01:42:29.079 I don't think it was a one individual. They stole 1769 01:42:29.159 --> 01:42:32.640 four hundred thousand Ethereum coins, so I mean, I guess 1770 01:42:32.640 --> 01:42:34.760 there's a whole group of people. 1771 01:42:35.279 --> 01:42:37.399 So I guess the reason why I'm asking. So I 1772 01:42:37.479 --> 01:42:41.560 dabble a little bit in it, just to try to diversify. 1773 01:42:40.960 --> 01:42:41.479 A little bit. 1774 01:42:42.159 --> 01:42:44.439 And I'm not that I have a whole lot in there, 1775 01:42:44.840 --> 01:42:47.560 but like buy money didn't get taken, so maybe they're 1776 01:42:47.600 --> 01:42:50.640 just for those who have a lot, or you would 1777 01:42:50.640 --> 01:42:52.760 think that maybe they would take a little bit out 1778 01:42:52.800 --> 01:42:55.159 of everybody's account. 1779 01:42:55.399 --> 01:42:56.000 Who knows? 1780 01:42:56.319 --> 01:43:00.640 Do you have any Ethereum I do? Okay? Has it 1781 01:43:00.720 --> 01:43:02.880 gone up or down in price in the last week? 1782 01:43:03.239 --> 01:43:06.399 Just curious now that one point a billion. 1783 01:43:06.079 --> 01:43:10.279 Dollars isn't gone you know, so it's been fluctuating, but 1784 01:43:10.520 --> 01:43:13.039 I mean it just hit over the two grand mark, 1785 01:43:13.920 --> 01:43:17.319 not like last week, so it's gone up. 1786 01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:21.560 Wait, so was it before Friday. 1787 01:43:23.039 --> 01:43:26.960 I don't remember when, but like it was with these 1788 01:43:27.039 --> 01:43:29.840 last two weeks where it finally hit over the two 1789 01:43:29.880 --> 01:43:33.760 grand market I think right now is about two fifty six, 1790 01:43:34.279 --> 01:43:35.800 but it fluctuates. 1791 01:43:35.840 --> 01:43:40.720 I mean that bigcoin, all the other wonderful stuff too. 1792 01:43:41.479 --> 01:43:41.920 Wow. 1793 01:43:42.600 --> 01:43:44.840 So they waited until it got to a certain level 1794 01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:46.520 and then they made their move. 1795 01:43:47.319 --> 01:43:47.840 Wow. 1796 01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:53.239 So it seems that's that's pretty crafty old North Korea. 1797 01:43:53.520 --> 01:43:55.880 Kim Jong has got some extra things going on in 1798 01:43:55.880 --> 01:43:58.880 the back burner that we had no idea about. But okay, 1799 01:43:59.319 --> 01:44:04.039 so now as potential crypto investors need to be worried 1800 01:44:04.079 --> 01:44:07.760 about North Korean hackers for one, but this proves that 1801 01:44:07.800 --> 01:44:11.520 it's hackable on all fronts. Nothing is really that secure. 1802 01:44:11.960 --> 01:44:12.720 Go ahead, Tony. 1803 01:44:13.239 --> 01:44:15.520 Yeah, this reminds me of the mountain Gox hack back 1804 01:44:15.560 --> 01:44:19.199 in twenty thirteen for bitcoin, and that drove Bitcoin's priced 1805 01:44:19.199 --> 01:44:21.439 down a little bit, but it was in the hundreds 1806 01:44:21.479 --> 01:44:24.600 of dollars at that time, and yeah, it was through 1807 01:44:24.600 --> 01:44:32.760 an exchange, So the fundamentals behind the cryptocurrency are still 1808 01:44:32.800 --> 01:44:35.399 pretty solid in my opinion. It's just that if an 1809 01:44:35.439 --> 01:44:40.239 exchange does a bad job of securing them, securing the 1810 01:44:40.239 --> 01:44:46.119 private keys, then a hacker can steal them, and Ethereum 1811 01:44:46.119 --> 01:44:48.720 has a more complicated way of doing it than Bitcoin, 1812 01:44:48.760 --> 01:44:51.119 and I thought that would make it safer, but maybe 1813 01:44:51.680 --> 01:44:55.119 it hasn't made it safer. Ethereum is into having multiple 1814 01:44:55.119 --> 01:45:01.680 signatures to transfer the whatever they're called, the coins, the 1815 01:45:02.199 --> 01:45:05.880 the unspent outputs, and Bitcoin I think just uses one 1816 01:45:05.920 --> 01:45:09.439 password to do that instead of multiple ones. It's been 1817 01:45:09.439 --> 01:45:11.359 a while since I really studied this, but I remember 1818 01:45:11.399 --> 01:45:14.520 I really tried to study cryptography for about a year 1819 01:45:14.600 --> 01:45:17.600 before I started. I bought some way back then, and 1820 01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:21.039 it was I got really lucky. Of course, I haven't 1821 01:45:21.079 --> 01:45:24.359 bought any ethereum, but I think the fundamentals are still 1822 01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:27.680 solid enough, and it's it's just an exchange, for example, 1823 01:45:27.800 --> 01:45:31.399 or an untrustworthy person or a person you know, if 1824 01:45:31.439 --> 01:45:36.880 you if you're if your device is compromised in any way, 1825 01:45:36.920 --> 01:45:39.279 that's that's what you need to worry about. But the 1826 01:45:39.319 --> 01:45:42.880 fundamentals of cryptographic hashing are still solid enough that as 1827 01:45:42.920 --> 01:45:45.840 long as you stay safe and maybe even generate your 1828 01:45:47.039 --> 01:45:50.800 key pair offline, which you can do, then there's no 1829 01:45:50.960 --> 01:45:54.680 way anyone can derive it just by guessing and checking. 1830 01:45:55.319 --> 01:45:57.199 But I mean, it's just like these hackers did right, 1831 01:45:57.239 --> 01:45:59.479 because you're right, Ethereum. We read in the article they 1832 01:45:59.520 --> 01:46:02.880 do have the multi key situation and a lot of 1833 01:46:02.920 --> 01:46:06.439 people have stored their stuff offline. They were able to 1834 01:46:06.960 --> 01:46:10.880 mimic the if I read correctly here, they were able 1835 01:46:10.920 --> 01:46:14.640 to mimic the employees, the people who are actually the 1836 01:46:14.680 --> 01:46:18.000 ones that oversee the movement of this and hack it 1837 01:46:18.119 --> 01:46:18.800 that way. 1838 01:46:19.119 --> 01:46:22.239 So I to me, it sounds like they installed spywear 1839 01:46:22.479 --> 01:46:26.359 on these employees' phones and computers. That's kind of what 1840 01:46:26.399 --> 01:46:27.279 it sounded like to me. 1841 01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:32.279 It's very possible. It's very possible. Yeah, go ahead, Royce. 1842 01:46:33.199 --> 01:46:35.680 All I was gonna say is just checking prices now, 1843 01:46:36.840 --> 01:46:40.600 And actually I was wrong, sho Ethereum. In the beginning 1844 01:46:40.600 --> 01:46:46.920 of January was over thirty six hundred dollars her per coin, 1845 01:46:46.960 --> 01:46:49.279 and then over the past in a couple of months, 1846 01:46:49.279 --> 01:46:52.560 it just dropped down to the eighteens, and now it's 1847 01:46:52.600 --> 01:46:56.159 finally back into the twos. So it seems like it's 1848 01:46:56.239 --> 01:47:01.359 been fluctuating a lot over these past months. Well that's 1849 01:47:01.399 --> 01:47:03.840 even without looking you know, farther back. 1850 01:47:04.439 --> 01:47:08.279 Okay, now, again, me being such a just I'm clueless 1851 01:47:08.279 --> 01:47:12.560 in this realm. They stole one point five billion in ethereum. 1852 01:47:13.079 --> 01:47:17.079 That's not cash, right, Like, that's not that's not cold 1853 01:47:17.119 --> 01:47:19.760 currency that they can now go spend. They would have 1854 01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:21.760 to like transfer it out and do all these things. 1855 01:47:22.399 --> 01:47:26.159 How could North Korea use that as money at this time? 1856 01:47:28.319 --> 01:47:32.640 Can't you convert it from the coin back to whatever 1857 01:47:32.680 --> 01:47:34.920 couragion you're in. Isn't that the whole idea of it? 1858 01:47:37.319 --> 01:47:38.600 Yeah, another question. 1859 01:47:39.680 --> 01:47:43.000 I mean, some people have raised the possibility of blacklisting 1860 01:47:43.159 --> 01:47:46.920 coins that are registered as stolen sure, and people have 1861 01:47:46.960 --> 01:47:48.399 talked about doing that for bitcoin. 1862 01:47:48.439 --> 01:47:49.479 I don't know if they've ever. 1863 01:47:49.319 --> 01:47:52.479 Actually successfully applied it. It would require the agreement of 1864 01:47:52.520 --> 01:47:54.720 the whole community, and they're never going to get that 1865 01:47:54.960 --> 01:47:59.600 because anonymity is more important than security or something. 1866 01:47:59.640 --> 01:47:59.960 I don't know. 1867 01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:02.159 I forget the trade off. But in the mount Gox 1868 01:48:02.199 --> 01:48:04.279 thing in twenty thirteen, I was paying attention to that 1869 01:48:04.319 --> 01:48:06.840 Bitcoin went from a little over one thousand dollars a 1870 01:48:06.880 --> 01:48:10.800 coin down to about two hundred to coin, so and 1871 01:48:10.840 --> 01:48:13.359 now it's up to what like ninety thousand, So it 1872 01:48:13.439 --> 01:48:16.840 fluctuates just way more than any other investment. But that's 1873 01:48:17.239 --> 01:48:20.079 kind of a rough idea of the values we're talking about. 1874 01:48:20.720 --> 01:48:22.880 But that's what I'm saying. So it's not like North 1875 01:48:22.920 --> 01:48:26.079 Korea could sell these now on the black market to 1876 01:48:26.159 --> 01:48:29.680 make that money, right, they can't, Like maybe they could 1877 01:48:29.720 --> 01:48:30.600 ransom them. 1878 01:48:30.840 --> 01:48:34.199 Well, if they're blacklisted, they can't. But they probably will 1879 01:48:34.239 --> 01:48:40.640 find a way to sell them for money for other currencies. 1880 01:48:40.680 --> 01:48:43.000 That's probably what they'll do. I bet they'll find a way. 1881 01:48:43.359 --> 01:48:45.960 But isn't that all shown on the blockchain? So like 1882 01:48:46.039 --> 01:48:48.720 anybody who follows it will be able to tell that, like, oh, 1883 01:48:49.039 --> 01:48:52.399 this was one of the ethereum that was stolen, and 1884 01:48:52.720 --> 01:48:55.840 they'll know that, Oh, you're dealing in stolen crypto and 1885 01:48:55.880 --> 01:48:58.960 all these things, and like the it's not like gold 1886 01:48:59.000 --> 01:49:03.359 bars where regardless, there's only a few signifiers that would 1887 01:49:03.359 --> 01:49:05.800 tell you that this gold bar was stolen in this heights, 1888 01:49:05.840 --> 01:49:08.840 like the Italian job that movie, right, and that's like 1889 01:49:08.880 --> 01:49:11.760 scratch off. This is not something you could scratch off 1890 01:49:11.800 --> 01:49:13.479 like that. So even if they were to sell it 1891 01:49:13.520 --> 01:49:16.359 in some sort of a backdoor deal, so to speak, 1892 01:49:17.359 --> 01:49:20.439 it's it's not like that could go anywhere really, Or 1893 01:49:20.520 --> 01:49:22.880 maybe I'm completely wrong and there's totally away and there's 1894 01:49:22.920 --> 01:49:28.319 like a whole underground circuit for buying stolen an illegal crypto. 1895 01:49:28.760 --> 01:49:29.119 I don't know. 1896 01:49:29.680 --> 01:49:33.520 Yeah, that's assuming there's some system that will blacklist it worldwide, 1897 01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:37.119 but I don't think there is, so they there's a 1898 01:49:37.119 --> 01:49:38.720 good chance they will get away with it. 1899 01:49:39.479 --> 01:49:39.800 Damn. 1900 01:49:40.840 --> 01:49:42.600 Well, So here's a question. 1901 01:49:42.920 --> 01:49:45.359 If you could just cash out, why wouldn't once that 1902 01:49:45.439 --> 01:49:49.359 you cash out of one account, then take the money 1903 01:49:49.399 --> 01:49:54.000 that you made and theoretically either I either reinvest or 1904 01:49:54.119 --> 01:49:56.359 just take that money. Why would you even want to 1905 01:49:56.399 --> 01:50:00.359 reinvest it or to try to sell it like that 1906 01:50:00.520 --> 01:50:03.920 they sold? Are they stole billions like at one point 1907 01:50:03.960 --> 01:50:08.760 whatever billion of dollars? So why not just cash out? 1908 01:50:09.520 --> 01:50:12.399 But how like, how would you cash that out without 1909 01:50:12.479 --> 01:50:15.039 also showing that this was the stolen funds? 1910 01:50:15.399 --> 01:50:16.319 Well, here's another thing. 1911 01:50:16.359 --> 01:50:18.199 At the moment, I guess it wouldn't matter, because it's 1912 01:50:18.199 --> 01:50:20.680 still if they were to do that right now, right 1913 01:50:20.760 --> 01:50:23.199 cash it out before people have the opportunity to follow 1914 01:50:23.239 --> 01:50:25.840 it and on the blockchain and all these things, then 1915 01:50:26.680 --> 01:50:28.640 maybe they could, like Tony said, maybe they could get 1916 01:50:28.680 --> 01:50:30.359 away with it, but like they wouldn't be able to 1917 01:50:30.399 --> 01:50:32.239 hold these for like the next six months to a 1918 01:50:32.319 --> 01:50:35.479 year and then try that. But again that's only assuming 1919 01:50:36.039 --> 01:50:39.000 that this on the blockchain would be blacklisted in some way, 1920 01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:41.640 shape or form. There's enough greedy people out there that 1921 01:50:41.680 --> 01:50:43.359 may not even care if it was stolen or not, 1922 01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:46.560 like you know, finders keepers kind of situation. I don't know. 1923 01:50:47.199 --> 01:50:48.159 M Yeah. 1924 01:50:48.199 --> 01:50:51.840 Another way to mask this whole blacklist problem is that 1925 01:50:51.880 --> 01:50:55.199 if you buy some legitimate bitcoin or legitimate ethereum and 1926 01:50:55.199 --> 01:50:59.159 then mix it with the stolen stuff that's already been 1927 01:50:59.359 --> 01:51:03.119 you know, theoretic marked is stolen. Then the unspent outputs 1928 01:51:03.159 --> 01:51:05.600 all mixed together in some new address, and then if 1929 01:51:05.640 --> 01:51:08.439 you transfer them out of there, nobody knows how to 1930 01:51:08.439 --> 01:51:11.920 deal with how to trace which on spent outputs or 1931 01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:13.359 stolen and which ones weren't. 1932 01:51:13.720 --> 01:51:16.439 So that's another strategy that North. 1933 01:51:16.319 --> 01:51:18.960 Korea could use that other people have already used to 1934 01:51:19.000 --> 01:51:21.359 get around this problem. Now for one point five billion 1935 01:51:21.399 --> 01:51:23.880 dollars forth, maybe it's less doable. 1936 01:51:23.600 --> 01:51:23.680 But. 1937 01:51:25.840 --> 01:51:28.439 Launder, for sure, that's going to take a little more blending, 1938 01:51:28.479 --> 01:51:30.720 but it's not impossible, I would assume. 1939 01:51:31.119 --> 01:51:33.159 Right, Yeah, I bet film get away with it. 1940 01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:37.199 That is insane, dude, I don't. I'm with you, Alex, 1941 01:51:37.279 --> 01:51:40.159 I saw the cryptocurrency makes no goddamn sense to me, Yo, 1942 01:51:40.319 --> 01:51:45.359 same same, I don't even understand how you launder ethereal dollars. 1943 01:51:45.760 --> 01:51:48.920 I understand how to launder green money. This makes perfect 1944 01:51:48.960 --> 01:51:54.199 sense to me. I understand how you wouldlaunder bullion and gyms, 1945 01:51:54.239 --> 01:51:57.359 and how you fence stolen goods. That all makes perfect 1946 01:51:57.399 --> 01:51:59.840 sense to me. In the realm that I live in. 1947 01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:03.720 I have no idea how people are supposed to fence 1948 01:52:03.880 --> 01:52:08.560 Internet money like that. There's ways, there's absolutely ways, but 1949 01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:11.600 good god, the amount of hoops you have to jump through. 1950 01:52:11.640 --> 01:52:13.520 But I mean, at the same time, for a one 1951 01:52:13.520 --> 01:52:15.800 point five billion dollar payday, yo, I could learn how 1952 01:52:15.840 --> 01:52:19.880 to jump through some hoops, like for real, nothing's impossible. So, 1953 01:52:21.399 --> 01:52:24.279 oh my god, I don't know. I think you're right, Tony. 1954 01:52:24.279 --> 01:52:26.319 They'll probably get away with it. But even that's the thing, 1955 01:52:26.359 --> 01:52:28.319 the world knows that they're the ones that did it. 1956 01:52:28.600 --> 01:52:32.159 There's no hiding it. I also don't think they care. 1957 01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:38.279 It's not like North Korea is already social pariahs, international pariahs. 1958 01:52:38.680 --> 01:52:41.439 It's not like this is gonna hurt their reputation any 1959 01:52:41.840 --> 01:52:43.840 you know. So, I mean, they might even fence it 1960 01:52:43.840 --> 01:52:46.800 through Russia. To be honest with you, Russia or China, 1961 01:52:47.199 --> 01:52:49.800 they both have very good working relationships in North Korea, 1962 01:52:50.199 --> 01:52:53.399 I could see them absolutely fencing it through their crypto 1963 01:52:53.479 --> 01:52:55.600 markets in some way, shape or form, or hiding it 1964 01:52:55.640 --> 01:52:58.800 in with their IP addresses or whatever the case is. 1965 01:52:59.079 --> 01:53:02.720 So, and here's one other thing, just thinking about central 1966 01:53:02.760 --> 01:53:06.039 banks and government banks and the whole worldwide banking system, 1967 01:53:06.319 --> 01:53:10.920 I think the overall worldwide banking system doesn't like cryptocurrency 1968 01:53:10.960 --> 01:53:16.079 that much. Still, they don't have a way to transform 1969 01:53:16.119 --> 01:53:19.319 it into a central bank digital digital currency. So I 1970 01:53:19.359 --> 01:53:24.000 think that the worldwide banking system, the traditional establishment banking system, 1971 01:53:24.279 --> 01:53:26.960 is secretly a little happy when stuff like this happens. 1972 01:53:27.359 --> 01:53:33.439 And they don't want governments to try to enforce, you know, 1973 01:53:33.600 --> 01:53:38.760 laws against theft for cryptocurrency. They want cryptocurrency to be delegitimized. 1974 01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:42.119 They want, you know, any time of theft like this happens, 1975 01:53:42.119 --> 01:53:44.479 they're happy because it says, okay, yeah, people aren't going 1976 01:53:44.600 --> 01:53:47.880 to be looking seriously into getting away from fiat currencies. 1977 01:53:48.159 --> 01:53:52.319 They're gonna probably be more skeptical of the crypto if 1978 01:53:52.359 --> 01:53:54.000 they know it can be stolen so easily. 1979 01:53:54.680 --> 01:53:56.239 So that's another angle. 1980 01:53:56.000 --> 01:54:00.880 On this that helps delegitimize it one hundred percent. The 1981 01:54:01.640 --> 01:54:06.159 traditional banking system, the traditional economy system, does not like 1982 01:54:06.199 --> 01:54:10.560 crypto because it's another way that they can't control. It's 1983 01:54:10.600 --> 01:54:13.920 something that puts the power to the person rather than 1984 01:54:13.960 --> 01:54:18.560 to the banking conglomerates and things. So I think you 1985 01:54:18.640 --> 01:54:21.039 might be onto something here. Now this goes into the 1986 01:54:21.039 --> 01:54:25.479 realm of conspiratorial talk, right. Is it possible that any 1987 01:54:25.600 --> 01:54:28.960 number of these international banks would be more than happy 1988 01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:31.520 to cash this crypto currency for North Korea if it 1989 01:54:31.600 --> 01:54:35.079 helps further the point that people shouldn't trust crypto and 1990 01:54:35.119 --> 01:54:40.279 should more trust brick and mortar banks. I could absolutely 1991 01:54:40.319 --> 01:54:44.359 see them helping North Korea cash this out to further 1992 01:54:44.479 --> 01:54:50.199 their goal in that regard, one hundred percent. Wow, Royce 1993 01:54:50.319 --> 01:54:52.520 just typed in here. That's how I feel when you 1994 01:54:52.520 --> 01:54:54.960 guys talk about what goes on in the world. Sometimes 1995 01:54:55.479 --> 01:54:57.439 I'm in a bubble that doesn't have time to get 1996 01:54:57.479 --> 01:55:03.600 into much unfortunately. Make reference yo. I feel that Raven says, 1997 01:55:03.640 --> 01:55:06.640 I'd rather trade em barter for goods than money online. Yo, 1998 01:55:06.800 --> 01:55:10.720 same same. I know. I'm just I'm just an old 1999 01:55:10.760 --> 01:55:13.880 man in that regard. I don't do good with technology. 2000 01:55:13.920 --> 01:55:16.239 Even though my former job was to deal with some 2001 01:55:16.279 --> 01:55:20.319 cutting edge technology. Sometimes I sucked at the that type 2002 01:55:20.359 --> 01:55:27.119 of like a really in depth tech world stuff. Crypto 2003 01:55:27.319 --> 01:55:29.840 has never made sense to me. Help the stock market 2004 01:55:29.960 --> 01:55:33.399 barely makes sense to me. Honestly. The only way it 2005 01:55:33.439 --> 01:55:36.359 makes sense is that it's all gambling. And I understand 2006 01:55:36.399 --> 01:55:39.159 the crypto is gambling as well, but like I don't 2007 01:55:39.159 --> 01:55:43.920 even understand the I don't understand the gambling aspect of it. 2008 01:55:43.960 --> 01:55:46.960 If you when you put stock into a company, you 2009 01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:50.319 are gambling on that company doing well or that the 2010 01:55:50.399 --> 01:55:53.479 value of that company will go up, right, that's the gamble. 2011 01:55:53.640 --> 01:55:57.000 This makes sense to me in my mind here, I 2012 01:55:57.039 --> 01:56:01.279 don't understand how you would be gambling on an ethereal 2013 01:56:01.399 --> 01:56:05.279 dollar or an ethereal thing, coin, n ft, whatever the 2014 01:56:05.279 --> 01:56:08.840 case is, that has no value other than what the 2015 01:56:08.880 --> 01:56:11.840 Internet tells you the value of it should be, and 2016 01:56:11.880 --> 01:56:14.000 how that's supposed to go up or down based off 2017 01:56:14.000 --> 01:56:16.520 of what other people all feel like it should go 2018 01:56:16.600 --> 01:56:18.319 up or down. That's how you have all these crypto 2019 01:56:18.319 --> 01:56:22.439 pumping dumps that happen like it. It doesn't. I don't 2020 01:56:22.439 --> 01:56:24.680 get it. I don't get it. Therefore I do not 2021 01:56:24.920 --> 01:56:27.880 deal with it. It just doesn't go well for me. 2022 01:56:29.439 --> 01:56:32.000 Let's see here, speaking of gambling out sent in, I 2023 01:56:32.039 --> 01:56:35.600 mean gambling addicts send me twenty dollars, I might send 2024 01:56:35.680 --> 01:56:38.680 back one hundred dollars Jimmy Neutron dunking on them. I 2025 01:56:38.800 --> 01:56:43.199 like it. I like it. And then Zombie says, I'd 2026 01:56:43.279 --> 01:56:46.239 rather hold my quote unquote stocks than figure out what 2027 01:56:46.319 --> 01:56:49.600 this wild shit. Yo, same, same I and I don't 2028 01:56:49.600 --> 01:56:52.880 even deal with the stocks, and I'm that's there's whole 2029 01:56:52.880 --> 01:56:55.880 people that made their entire careers off of the stock market, 2030 01:56:56.239 --> 01:56:59.239 and I'm not knocking it. I just suck at it, 2031 01:56:59.279 --> 01:57:01.239 so I just stay in my own little bubble of 2032 01:57:01.279 --> 01:57:02.119 earning my money. 2033 01:57:02.600 --> 01:57:05.399 Well, here's another thing, people, I think gambling is a 2034 01:57:05.640 --> 01:57:09.239 biological need. Almost people have been gambling since the beginning 2035 01:57:09.279 --> 01:57:14.000 of time, with things like, well, there's baseball trading cards, 2036 01:57:14.000 --> 01:57:17.880 there was the tulip mania people really, and there's diamonds 2037 01:57:18.960 --> 01:57:21.279 and things that'll just go up and down. But people 2038 01:57:21.319 --> 01:57:24.439 love to gamble. And if if cryptocurrency hadn't been invented, 2039 01:57:24.560 --> 01:57:26.399 we would just be doing it with other stuff. 2040 01:57:26.640 --> 01:57:31.439 On Oh God, Royce, that's a good one. I'm gonna 2041 01:57:31.439 --> 01:57:35.600 I'm gonna steal that one. Dude, Jesus saves Jews invest wisely, 2042 01:57:36.359 --> 01:57:43.279 that's fun. I like it. Oh, I like it all right, y'all. 2043 01:57:43.319 --> 01:57:46.039 On that note, I think we're gonna wrap this episode up. 2044 01:57:46.439 --> 01:57:48.439 As always, I want to thank everybody for coming out 2045 01:57:48.439 --> 01:57:51.479 for this conversation and this edition of the Cajun Night Live. 2046 01:57:51.920 --> 01:57:54.680 For anybody who is listening to this on Thursday and 2047 01:57:54.720 --> 01:57:56.840 would like to be a part of the conversation again, 2048 01:57:56.960 --> 01:58:00.479 go to the link below Cajun Night on Patreon. There's 2049 01:58:00.520 --> 01:58:03.199 just one tier. It's just to get everybody involved in 2050 01:58:03.239 --> 01:58:05.439 this conversation. Let's talk about what's going on in the 2051 01:58:05.439 --> 01:58:08.600 world around us, y'all. Let's open form discuss everything. Let's 2052 01:58:08.600 --> 01:58:10.039 have a little bit of growth, a little bit of 2053 01:58:10.119 --> 01:58:13.039 education across the board, and let's make this even bigger 2054 01:58:13.039 --> 01:58:15.960 than it's already grown. Again, I am the Cajun Knight, 2055 01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:18.680 and I thank y'all for everybody for listening and coming out, 2056 01:58:18.880 --> 01:58:29.279 and as always, God bless