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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to another edition of Video Games to the Max.

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host Sean Garmery with me jusual mister

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Morrison, and well it happened. We said it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was probably gonna be the big topic of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>On last week's episode, Developer Direct occur. We got the

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<v Speaker 1>big surprise announcement of Ninja Got In four plus the

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<v Speaker 1>Shout It Up and Ninja Got Into Black and the

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<v Speaker 1>other three games that we always need are going to show.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll give our general thoughts on the direct and

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<v Speaker 1>then the games. And also Phil Spencer did some interviews

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<v Speaker 1>a few podcasts kind of talking about the future of

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<v Speaker 1>Xbox and why you should buy the console, the next

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<v Speaker 1>console anyway, and you know, plans about games coming not

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<v Speaker 1>coming whatever, you know, the things that we've heard many times.

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<v Speaker 1>But he went on and talked about him again and

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<v Speaker 1>a few other Xbox notes at Gears now has the

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<v Speaker 1>co developer Gears E Day, I mean, and some of

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<v Speaker 1>some other things on Xbox. Also some things with Sony

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<v Speaker 1>ted Price retiring from Insomniac, news about the Horizon MMO game,

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<v Speaker 1>also some other things. Mark is going to be talking

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<v Speaker 1>side of things. So that's about it's I also did

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<v Speaker 1>a demo impressions on a game that I'm also reviewing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to talk about it because technically we're

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<v Speaker 1>not so they don't want us to talk about any

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<v Speaker 1>part of the game. But I did a demo impressions

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<v Speaker 1>for a big Helmet Hero So if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go check that out on Ada Haven, I have the

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<v Speaker 1>link in the description. Did you do your review for

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<v Speaker 1>Ubert on PC?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I submitted it yesterday, but a problem up for

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<v Speaker 2>a few days.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'll check on that while we're doing the

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<v Speaker 1>show here. So with that said, let's go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>get going here with the Xbox Developer Directs twenty twenty five. Addition,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is probably the best one. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a lot to go on. They've only had

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<v Speaker 1>three of these, but as far as like the quality

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<v Speaker 1>of games, giving you firm reduces on three of the four.

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<v Speaker 1>Three of the four are coming out pretty quickly here

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<v Speaker 1>and the winter to spring ish time. Yeah, the big surprise,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, was Ninja gutten four, which, hey, credit

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<v Speaker 1>to you. You you're the one that said it was

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to be a Ninja Guiding and not only

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<v Speaker 1>Ninja Guidi four, but also Ninja Got Into Black, which

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<v Speaker 1>is basically a remaster of Ninja Gaiden two but now

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<v Speaker 1>done in a real unreal five with spicy graphics. And

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<v Speaker 1>then this is the definitive edition Ninja Gotten two now,

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<v Speaker 1>which obviously those of you that have heard I did

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<v Speaker 1>a review with the master collection that released. It is

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<v Speaker 1>also on game Pass that has the Sigma one and two,

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<v Speaker 1>which are considered inferior versions of Ninja Gaiden. They're the,

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<v Speaker 1>like I guess, easier versions of the game. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to play, which you can buy Ninja guid

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<v Speaker 1>in the original, the Xbox Original Ninja Goayden Black on

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<v Speaker 1>Xbox for like it's on sale for five bucks right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to go playing Ninja Gouden one

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<v Speaker 1>black and then also build playing Ninja Gotten two Black,

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<v Speaker 1>you could do that. It was cool that we got

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<v Speaker 1>that shadow drop on game pass. But what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think of what they showed in Ninja Gotten four with

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<v Speaker 1>any protagonists and.

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<v Speaker 2>All that that looked good? Like that takes you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the highlight for me because you know Platinum's doing it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it looks like good Platinum, not bad Platinum.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's extremely in their real house, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Revengeance or Near or you know, even Vanquished for an extent,

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<v Speaker 2>so looks good. Like one of the bosses really looked

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<v Speaker 2>like Near also because it was like some female looking

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<v Speaker 2>robot with like red interview spears coming out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yep, I know what Platinum this is. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't really care about the the hero

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily because I'm sure like it'll be different. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not gonna be like, oh, pick pick whatever hero

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<v Speaker 2>you want to. You know, switch between both of them different,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, depending on the story's dope.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, I thought I was like, Okay, are they

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do the the rating version of this? So we're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna not be around for ten years and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna come out with a new protagonist that nobody knows,

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<v Speaker 1>uh right, kind of weird to do that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, later in the trailer, they're like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna play high boos as well, and they should

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<v Speaker 1>offer you know, his typical big moves, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>all in after that. I mean, it looks really flashy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's all I need to know exactly. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you definitely need to know that he did. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the bosses look awesome as well, and then hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it definitely looks like it's going to have

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<v Speaker 1>more of that Platinum Games kind of flair with the

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Tim Team Ninja kind of neo influences there too,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure it still has the flashy combat and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's a little bit slowed down compared to you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it looks faster. I mean that's what they were

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<v Speaker 2>kind of HARKing on, which is fine. You know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>as long as I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what matters. But I think definitely it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be good. I don't think we need to necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>worry about that too much. It has the English voice

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<v Speaker 1>acting as well, which is cool. So yeah, Fall Lives.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we'll get the release date probably like during

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<v Speaker 1>the summer showcase thing.

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<v Speaker 2>By then, the story kind of made me chuckle because

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh, Tokyo was in ruins because the Dark

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<v Speaker 2>Dragon is raining or whatever, and yeah, what's the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the world look like? Could be funny for the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of worlds is like, fine.

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<v Speaker 1>The dark rot or whatever is happening there.

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<v Speaker 2>In the rain. Yeah, but it'd be funny. I like,

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<v Speaker 2>all the rest of the world is like fine, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely right, Ah yeah, look good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's gonna be on game Pass as well, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at first, I thought this was gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like last year where Visions Amana was shown

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<v Speaker 1>and it was not Game Pass, which I think is

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<v Speaker 1>the first the only time so far in the three

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<v Speaker 1>years that they've had a game that was shown that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't Game Pass.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, as you got into okay, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of understand because that was all originally that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that was an Xbox game that then got poured it

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<v Speaker 1>over to P three and then they show that Xbox

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<v Speaker 1>is publishing Ninja Gaiden four, so it's like okay, And apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Phil Spencer during his one of the interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, you know, this is why he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to Japan, was they were actually kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get everybody together with quotech went on Team

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<v Speaker 1>Ninja and Platinum.

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<v Speaker 2>To be able to do this right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he said it started the way back in twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>so not sure when the actual dev cycle started, but

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they started like talking and everything all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back then, that's kind of crazy that they

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<v Speaker 1>were able to keep this kind of secret for so long,

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<v Speaker 1>both of these games really and like not have any

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<v Speaker 1>of it leak. I mean, yes, there were people that

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<v Speaker 1>were really speculating that it was going to be Ninja

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<v Speaker 1>Gaiden as we got closer and stuff like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was never like, oh it's leaked. It's officially this right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very rare nowadays. So pretty cool for them

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of be able to keep that under wraps.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I felt bad for Southam Midnight to come

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<v Speaker 1>after two really flashy games.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did. I actually just watched this direct like

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<v Speaker 2>an hour ago or an hour and a half ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that game looks bad. And there's two reasons why.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the stop motion cinematics are kind of iffy,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say, compared to like the extual gameplay. And like,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess this is the first time I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>really watched the gameplay and like what they're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>trying to say, it reminds me, do you ever play uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine and the Forsaken Kingdom?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I played that for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>It reminded me a little of that, but the big game,

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<v Speaker 2>but the big game. This game reminds me of his

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<v Speaker 2>first spoken or yeah for spoken.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of people were saying they're spoken.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not good, Like I mean, I mean, but

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<v Speaker 2>the comment.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't seem like forst spoken. It feels like people are

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<v Speaker 1>saying for spoken because it has the black.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that that's partially like the uh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>black main actress or main character, like kind of being

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<v Speaker 2>sucked it from the real world into like the santasy world. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a chunk, but like even like it's not really the

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<v Speaker 2>Parkore but like the combat was very sport for spoken,

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<v Speaker 2>like the fact that you had this like, ah, what

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<v Speaker 2>was it crawfish or some type of fish thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, the catfish that you kind of ride around.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like the imagining thing to me because you had

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<v Speaker 2>to like doling guy in that thing who was like

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<v Speaker 2>the combat basically in that thing. But like it's like this, okay, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they, I mean I can kind of see that

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I don't necessarily I don't think you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>Like it does look kathered. I'm like, okay, you're just

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<v Speaker 2>So right, even the contrast didn't like blow the doors

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't either, you're right about that, which that was

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<v Speaker 1>It still looks cool.

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<v Speaker 1>The story is obviously, I think for me like really intriguing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's gonna grab me. They showed a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the like systems that are in there, like there's a

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<v Speaker 2>Put on that looked really nuts or like, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>Like because I mean definitely you can tell like the

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<v Speaker 1>as crisp as say you know, we're gonna talk You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about rebirth later. That maybe isn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>hit that, but still, I think if they can deliver

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<v Speaker 1>He looks kind of cool. So yeah, I'm down for

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<v Speaker 1>this game. I was excited the first time we saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>See more of it. I wonder how big, like the

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<v Speaker 1>actual like exploring in the world is going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, again people are kind of used to

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like we're just seeing a small part of

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<v Speaker 1>get to the actual game, how much more of this?

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<v Speaker 1>And then obviously the combat is it's awesome if it

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<v Speaker 1>actually you know, delivers on how cool it actually looks

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<v Speaker 1>when we play.

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<v Speaker 2>It, you know. So yeah, yeah, I'm excited for that too,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, he's like thirty or forty hours. That

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<v Speaker 2>should be good.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. So aside, you know, then they ended everything

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<v Speaker 1>with Doom the Dark Ages, which is a prequel to

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<v Speaker 1>Dune twenty sixteen and Doom Maternal, and then they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of showed off that this game is the antithesis of

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<v Speaker 1>both of those games. It's good. Yeah, well, Doom Maternal

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<v Speaker 1>was really good. It's just I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people didn't. The reason why I think they went in

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a lot of people complaining about it was

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<v Speaker 1>too fast, too much jumping. They didn't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>doing that necessarily. And then you know, you get the

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<v Speaker 1>the like the whole story thing and the background to

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<v Speaker 1>that and everything else, which I thought that looked really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>They showed up off the mech dragon thing that you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to ride in this, which looks pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything you see you said it like that. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>why is that it's gonna be good. Why you say

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like any I don't think I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>any Doom, like maybe like the first one, like the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Nintendo. I mean that's what I played it on.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I didn't like doing twenty sixteen at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I like, stop playing it with like a

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<v Speaker 2>half hour or maybe like an hour. I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of boring to me. You know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>play Eternal. Their whole context sensitive thing seems a little

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<v Speaker 2>weird in this one. For the shield, like, and they

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<v Speaker 2>think they have like three melee weapons and they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Functionally they all kind of like look like they were

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<v Speaker 2>doing the same thing, so it's like, why do you

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<v Speaker 2>why even't have this? You know, and when you throw

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<v Speaker 2>out the shield, it reminded me of like the razor

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<v Speaker 2>wind from to Rok to fair Enough. Yeah, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>timely reference, I'm sure, but you know, I guess it.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks fine, I guess, but I just don't like

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<v Speaker 2>their way, you know, their brand of like first person shooter.

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<v Speaker 2>Necessarily we'll see, and if it has Ramire's head't it,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I may give it a shot, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough. I mean, I know it's not for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of on the other side where I really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy Doom. So let's see how if this one strikes

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<v Speaker 1>that perfect balance where like Eternal was really well liked,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, the fast game plan and it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily work everybody, And in twenty sixteen was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>liked as well. But I don't remember getting like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the press the Eternal did. Obviously, Eternal is

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<v Speaker 1>with Animal Crossing, was like the first game that came

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<v Speaker 1>out when the pandemic police started. We were all sitting

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<v Speaker 1>at the house, so you know that that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a thing as well. But I think, role, where where

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<v Speaker 1>did you sit with this? Like as far as like

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<v Speaker 1>I guess a showcase? Did you like how they do

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<v Speaker 1>it them talking to the devs telling you things?

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it was fine. I guess I would prefer,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe like one or two more games and

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<v Speaker 2>then shorter sequences or so shorter thing. You know. Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>the way they filmed it was kind of weird, like

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<v Speaker 2>especially the first part, I don't know, they did it

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<v Speaker 2>a few more times, like they hit that like really

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<v Speaker 2>weird close up, like slow mo close up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they love those. I don't know why they think

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<v Speaker 1>that's cool. Yeah, you know, it's like we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>We're trying to make it seem like they're going out

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<v Speaker 1>there to play some football game or something, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, yo, they're literally just walking to go to

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<v Speaker 1>their computer. It's like, I mean, you're you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not that cool, right, but I guess they

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<v Speaker 2>Times.

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<v Speaker 1>You can tell, especially like the Dune guys made fun

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<v Speaker 1>of it obviously that they were kind of like reading

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<v Speaker 1>from a script. They're not just like off the cuff

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<v Speaker 1>giving you their thoughts. It's kind of obviously like written

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<v Speaker 1>for them to say this and this and this, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we're trying to, you know, have it fit in

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<v Speaker 1>this night neat Little Bow of Black forty five ish minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>They really went long on the Ninja of Guiding part too.

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<v Speaker 1>There's times where it's like they're redoing the same footage

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<v Speaker 1>again because.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they didn't need to like have like five minutes

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<v Speaker 2>to vote it to a Ninja Guide in two Black

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<v Speaker 2>either it's okay, yeah this is out a trailer and

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<v Speaker 2>like hate this out now. Yeah, didn't talk about it

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<v Speaker 2>for five minutes it to Ue Engine five, and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I get in a way they wanted to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>show off the whole like, okay, this was really redone.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just you know, oh, we didn't just port

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<v Speaker 1>this thing over here or or just kind of like oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it Ninja, gutten too, Black at right, they really did

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<v Speaker 1>spend some time with it or whatever, So I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get that. And then also the whole like sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>people there's a lot of talk and the whole console

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<v Speaker 1>Warris stuff about like oh, Xbox Series can't really do

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<v Speaker 1>under Real Engine five and all that stuff, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was kind of them trying to be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>yes we can, here we go. You know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about Series US doing a lot of great stuff

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<v Speaker 1>with that, but at least you know, a Series X

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<v Speaker 1>definitely can handle it. So I mean, I thought for

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<v Speaker 1>sure this was a this was like a nine out

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<v Speaker 1>of ten showcase for the forty five minutes. You got

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<v Speaker 1>Boom boom boom. Four games. I'm excited for all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got April eighth, April twenty fourth, May fifteenth, back

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<v Speaker 1>to back to back. Basically interesting that they chose to

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<v Speaker 1>like make the gap shorter between I mean I understand

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<v Speaker 1>that clear obscure. Maybe they don't necessarily control when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes out because it's a third party technically, but well,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, so nin and Black so right, Benager,

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<v Speaker 1>gut and Blackhead, that's in the fall. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>still got they said that it's like what eighty percent

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<v Speaker 1>done or something like that, they still got time to

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<v Speaker 1>cook on that, but they do control South and Midnight

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<v Speaker 1>and Doom, and it's like, it's weird that you left

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<v Speaker 1>the shortest amount of time between South of between the

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<v Speaker 1>RPG that takes around thirty to forty hours to Doom

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<v Speaker 1>instead of doing it the way around where it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if South and Midnight supposed to be like eight to

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<v Speaker 1>ten hours, I would have made the gap shorter between

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<v Speaker 1>South and Midnight and Doom instead of clare obscure and

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<v Speaker 1>give you a little bit more time if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go. People to go day one on all of those.

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<v Speaker 1>But definitely, I mean that's good that in the time

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<v Speaker 1>that we're still waiting on what's gonna happen. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna know what announced by then for Nintendo in

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<v Speaker 1>the switch to but while we're sitting there waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>when that console's going to release, this stuff and Xboxes already,

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<v Speaker 1>Xbox is really going to be the talk of the town.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this this year with you got a

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<v Speaker 1>vowed Defebrary eighteenth, then you don't have to wait that

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<v Speaker 1>long before you get sought the Midnight. There might be

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<v Speaker 1>something else in between there as well in March, and

420
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<v Speaker 1>then uh, you know, you get Claire Obscurer and Doom

421
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<v Speaker 1>after and you still got let's see what happens with Fable,

422
00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's see what happens with Gears E Day. I don't

423
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<v Speaker 1>think I would be astonished if both those games come

424
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<v Speaker 1>out this year. I think I think one of them.

425
00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I think one of them is getting delayed. It feels like,

426
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<v Speaker 1>do you need to have every Yeah? Yeah, do you

427
00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:41.400
<v Speaker 1>need to have every banger coming out this year? I

428
00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:44.880
<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily think you do. There is a report going

429
00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:47.400
<v Speaker 1>around that supposed to Gears E Day is coming out

430
00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:49.799
<v Speaker 1>sooner than a lot of people expect, So maybe Gears

431
00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:53.640
<v Speaker 1>E Day is going to be the November game, and

432
00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:56.559
<v Speaker 1>then they would push Fable out to next year, kind

433
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<v Speaker 1>of like they did with the Vowed, where it's like, Okay,

434
00:23:58.359 --> 00:24:00.920
<v Speaker 1>we already got enough, we don't need to have both

435
00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:05.359
<v Speaker 1>of them. And then you have something else, you know,

436
00:24:05.559 --> 00:24:08.279
<v Speaker 1>coming in between there that you know, maybe we just

437
00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:11.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know about yet, or you know that whenever they're

438
00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:15.319
<v Speaker 1>doing that Oblivion remake, which seems like it's kind of

439
00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:18.559
<v Speaker 1>just a matter of when they announce it and not

440
00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:26.240
<v Speaker 1>if anymore, but we'll see also moving on from that

441
00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:30.400
<v Speaker 1>to another some some Xbox stuff here, because, like I said,

442
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<v Speaker 1>Phil Spencer, and I'm sorry for people that are like

443
00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:37.000
<v Speaker 1>always watch us and stuff. We're going to talk about

444
00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:39.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff that we've kind of talked about a bunch of times,

445
00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:43.839
<v Speaker 1>because it feels like every time we talk about Xbox

446
00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:46.559
<v Speaker 1>this kind of stuff always has to come up right,

447
00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>which is understandable on the way people want these answers,

448
00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:52.839
<v Speaker 1>but also I feel like, how many times is Phil

449
00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Spencer going to say pretty much the same thing until

450
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<v Speaker 1>people kind of get it this This is the most

451
00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:04.079
<v Speaker 1>you're going to get when it comes to him answering

452
00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:08.559
<v Speaker 1>the question of what's going over to PS five and

453
00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:12.200
<v Speaker 1>what's not kind of thing. Really quick before we get

454
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<v Speaker 1>to that, they did announce the what's coming to Xbox

455
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<v Speaker 1>Game Pass for the rest of this month and then

456
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>the like first week of February. Oh, I lost I

457
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:33.160
<v Speaker 1>lost mark there for a second. So tomorrow Eternal Strands

458
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<v Speaker 1>is out. I'll actually have a link in the description.

459
00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Keith actually reviewed that for the Outer Hayven gave it

460
00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:43.599
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good score, so you know you can go

461
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<v Speaker 1>read that at your leisure. But it looks like it's

462
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<v Speaker 1>going to be a pretty pretty good game at least,

463
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>and for it being on game Pass, that's a pretty

464
00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>good get there. Orcsmos Die Death Trap, which is the

465
00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:57.480
<v Speaker 1>newest orchsmos Die, is also coming out the same day tomorrow.

466
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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be on game Pass. Also, Sniper Elite

467
00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:04.079
<v Speaker 1>Resistance is coming on the thirtieth that's going to be

468
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<v Speaker 1>on game Pass, which is not the next iteration Snapper Elite,

469
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>but it really is almost like an expansion of five.

470
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<v Speaker 1>It has a lot of the same.

471
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<v Speaker 2>Which is yeah, you know, it's not like they're not

472
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<v Speaker 2>the wheel over there.

473
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<v Speaker 1>So the thirty first CE Citizens Sleeper two Star Star

474
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Ward Vector, which is Citizens Sleep for one was like

475
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<v Speaker 1>one of those big indie hits, So let's see if

476
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<v Speaker 1>this one is going to repeat the same thing. Mostly,

477
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:36.039
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of games that have already been out

478
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:38.480
<v Speaker 1>that are now going to be on game Pass standard.

479
00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:41.920
<v Speaker 1>The ones that I would really pay attention to kind

480
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<v Speaker 1>of is you haven't played in its galling Pats of

481
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the Goddess, Definitely go play that. There's also Chia, which

482
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:52.079
<v Speaker 1>was on PS plus when it first came out, and

483
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:53.799
<v Speaker 1>it's out there in the case of the Golden Idol

484
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:57.079
<v Speaker 1>if you like those detective games, definitely worth checking out

485
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<v Speaker 1>there for sure. And then I know you didn't like

486
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>this mark, and I know I probably wouldn't like it either.

487
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh far Cry New Dawn is gonna be the February

488
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<v Speaker 1>fourth game. I guess you'd be soft is just giving

489
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>that out there. Probably not gonna move a lot of

490
00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:16.039
<v Speaker 1>move a lot of units there. That's the like, isn't

491
00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:18.880
<v Speaker 1>it like almost like the would have been DLC.

492
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't play that one, I don't think, And I

493
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:22.279
<v Speaker 2>guess like the co Op one.

494
00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the that's the one that came after five.

495
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah I did play. I did play this one

496
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:33.240
<v Speaker 2>with the stupid twins, the two twins. Yeah yeah, so uh.

497
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<v Speaker 1>And then I would mention if you haven't bought or

498
00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:39.839
<v Speaker 1>played Desk Door, definitely go do that. It's leaving on

499
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:44.640
<v Speaker 1>January thirty. First great indie game that everybody should go

500
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>check out for sure. And if you like puzzle games,

501
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>my Kett's pretty good as well. So that's it for

502
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.599
<v Speaker 1>the game past stuff. So definitely, like you know, as

503
00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:58.440
<v Speaker 1>you're probably watching and listening to this, Eternal Strands is out,

504
00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:00.279
<v Speaker 1>you can go play that, and then some of the

505
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:02.440
<v Speaker 1>other games will be out in a couple of days afterwards.

506
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Starting with the Phils Spencer stuff, there's two podcasts that

507
00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:11.559
<v Speaker 1>he date interviews with like basically almost have to like

508
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:13.319
<v Speaker 1>one after the other, and then they you know, they

509
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>released them on their own time frame, one with Desin

510
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:20.640
<v Speaker 1>McGarry who recently left IGN and decided to do his

511
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>own thing on YouTube and Patreon. And then it's Oh

512
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:29.920
<v Speaker 1>my god, Danny Penya and Paris with their why can't

513
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I think of the name gamer Tech Radio. They've been

514
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:37.319
<v Speaker 1>around since like one of the first ever gaming podcasts,

515
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>since like two thousand and four, two thousand and five.

516
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:44.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, they've had Spencer on a couple of times.

517
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:46.880
<v Speaker 1>They had him on for like there his one thousandth

518
00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>episode and all that stuff, and now they had him

519
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.799
<v Speaker 1>on for this. So the consensus with both of them

520
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>was they asked the question of what's gonna happen with

521
00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>games going over to PS five? Are there more games

522
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>going Destin asked specifically about Starfield. Phil Spencer basically kind

523
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:08.519
<v Speaker 1>of reiterated that same thing that we've talked about a

524
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>bunch of times about the No Red line. No, I'm

525
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>not going to put a fence around certain games. We

526
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>are not going to gate keep games away from any

527
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:28.160
<v Speaker 1>system where they can gain fans or possible players. We

528
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:30.880
<v Speaker 1>are going to support switch To. He's already talked to

529
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Forkawa personally. He said, so we know that those rumors

530
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>that have games that are coming to switch to are

531
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:43.319
<v Speaker 1>probably more likely more than not likely true. But he's

532
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:46.279
<v Speaker 1>not going to say no, that game is not going

533
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>to come. But he's also not going to say, oh, definitely,

534
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>this game is coming. I've seen a lot of people

535
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>complain that they should He should be telling people when

536
00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:00.480
<v Speaker 1>games are coming, like when cific games are coming that

537
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:03.880
<v Speaker 1>what if I buy the game on Xbox or whatever.

538
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:06.799
<v Speaker 1>What if I'm buying waiting for that game to show

539
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>up and now I don't know and the waiting event

540
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>is like where do you live? To me, I feel

541
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.359
<v Speaker 1>like number one, he doesn't owe you an answer, and

542
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>then number two, it takes away some of the mystery

543
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:24.119
<v Speaker 1>of when they actually announce it. People get excited if

544
00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:27.359
<v Speaker 1>he just goes and tells you straight off, Oh, on

545
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>April twenty something, we're getting Starfield. On June fifteenth, you're

546
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>getting Halo master Chief collection, Like, where do you land

547
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:39.599
<v Speaker 1>on that? Do they need to just give you the

548
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 1>whole slate right now or they need to just do

549
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:42.759
<v Speaker 1>the thing that they've been doing.

550
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean you literally just praised them for their developer

551
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:50.680
<v Speaker 2>direct for them doing three concrete release dates so well.

552
00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:52.799
<v Speaker 1>But these are games that have already been out. They're

553
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:56.359
<v Speaker 1>just deciding when they're going to PlayStation five or switch to.

554
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, why do we need to have concrete

555
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>dates for that if they're going at all.

556
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.759
<v Speaker 2>The reason they don't want to give concrete dates is

557
00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:09.319
<v Speaker 2>still trying to milk Xbox fans to hopefully buy you know,

558
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:11.799
<v Speaker 2>people who might have both consoles, like, hey, hopefully buy

559
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Starfield on this on the Xbox, you know, like once

560
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:20.559
<v Speaker 2>they go, hey it comes out May twenty fourth or whatever,

561
00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:24.359
<v Speaker 2>it's like, all right, well, most whatever people left it

562
00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:27.039
<v Speaker 2>would be buying Starfield for the Xbox. They're not gonna

563
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:32.559
<v Speaker 2>publy buy now. Yeah, definitely, I I guess I would

564
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.640
<v Speaker 2>like it, But I also don't know like what, like

565
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.200
<v Speaker 2>what games are coming. And I still think that their

566
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.319
<v Speaker 2>whole philosophy of like no boundaries or no fences or

567
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:43.559
<v Speaker 2>we only have the dog training fence for for Forza

568
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:49.279
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, Like, uh, it's like, why, okay, why do

569
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:52.640
<v Speaker 2>you have a console? Then? Like Sega got out when

570
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.319
<v Speaker 2>the Dreamcast slopped and or you know, when several consoles

571
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:59.119
<v Speaker 2>flopped and they're like, all right, fuck it, and now

572
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:01.440
<v Speaker 2>they're probably in a better position than they were back then.

573
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:07.599
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean they're still making consoles because why not?

574
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Why why not give people an opportunity to still play?

575
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, for one, I think game Pass doesn't work

576
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>if you don't that's for most.

577
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Because the whole philosophy is like, oh, you can play

578
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:20.279
<v Speaker 2>it on your TV, you can play it on your phone,

579
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:21.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, right.

580
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:24.759
<v Speaker 1>But the the majority of people that have subscribed to

581
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:27.119
<v Speaker 1>game Pass, which you know, they need that revenue stream,

582
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>are on console and they want to play games that way,

583
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:34.759
<v Speaker 1>and it's still the lead.

584
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Well cut out the console and put game Pass on PSI.

585
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh he kind of says that. Actually, Uh, the answer

586
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.319
<v Speaker 1>his answer to that is we want to be able

587
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>to give the experience the best experienced Xbox experience possible.

588
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>H But we can't because some places are closed.

589
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>And because you're fucking competitors. But if you eliminate that console,

590
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:01.440
<v Speaker 2>you're not competitors anymore then your cooperators.

591
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean he's really a cooperator that's also has

592
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:09.519
<v Speaker 1>a console. It's just Tony. Uh, Sony and Nintendo are

593
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.119
<v Speaker 1>not going to allow game pass on their console.

594
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:16.319
<v Speaker 2>There will well Nintendo won't, but Tony will if there's

595
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:19.960
<v Speaker 2>not an Xbox console. I think Sony, who we saw,

596
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:24.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, their stupid uh you know, membership platform is

597
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:27.759
<v Speaker 2>on PS five, e A whatever that that thing it's

598
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:31.480
<v Speaker 2>called is on PS five, like the Saint hard if.

599
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure if EA made a console that

600
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.480
<v Speaker 2>would be ripped off on PS five day one, you know,

601
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.359
<v Speaker 2>or you know, like the second they announced it, they're like, okay,

602
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:44.119
<v Speaker 2>no more EA membership program on PS five. Why because

603
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:45.440
<v Speaker 2>their competitors.

604
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Now, right. But I definitely think that the more and

605
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:51.839
<v Speaker 1>more these games come to PS five and if every

606
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:56.039
<v Speaker 1>single look at uh they released the the top games

607
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>of the whole year, and see a Thieves is on

608
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>there flaystation. So let's say, you know, you release Starfield,

609
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>you release Gears one Ultimate Edition, Halo Master Chief Collection,

610
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Halo five, whatever fours, their Rise in five and they

611
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.920
<v Speaker 1>all sell like crazy on PlayStation. I think the more

612
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:23.679
<v Speaker 1>that that keeps happening. I think somebody starts seeing that,

613
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:26.840
<v Speaker 1>oh Xbox is really trying to work with us. They

614
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:30.320
<v Speaker 1>just want to sell. They want to sell.

615
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:34.639
<v Speaker 2>However, Okay, yeah, it's the same argument I have with

616
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.920
<v Speaker 2>like the epic game Star versus Steam, and this happens

617
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:42.519
<v Speaker 2>Final Fantasy obviously. But let's say, for is the Motorsport

618
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.360
<v Speaker 2>five solos, I'm going to use just basic numbers or

619
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>five five copies on Xbox and it goes to PS

620
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:53.320
<v Speaker 2>five and then it sells fifteen. Shouldn't that tell Xbox like, hey,

621
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.239
<v Speaker 2>why bother making this one at all when you could

622
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:59.599
<v Speaker 2>make it for PS five and sell twenty or you

623
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:04.559
<v Speaker 2>know even more, This is the cost of like making

624
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:08.760
<v Speaker 2>the console is immense and huge, and they're still like

625
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:10.880
<v Speaker 2>in the hole probably from making that, Like.

626
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:14.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he he talks about that because, uh, you know,

627
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Paris asks him straight up, what's the point of buying

628
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:20.920
<v Speaker 1>an Xbox console at this point, and he says, well,

629
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:21.920
<v Speaker 1>you know.

630
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Pretty much probably pass game Pass game.

631
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:30.360
<v Speaker 1>He really didn't, he really didn't mention game Pass as

632
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:33.599
<v Speaker 1>that he says that they are looking to innovate with

633
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:36.599
<v Speaker 1>their console and that their console is going to be

634
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:41.320
<v Speaker 1>do something different than what Sony's console offers. I really

635
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:43.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know what that is at this point, other than

636
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>being completely open, which he's talked about.

637
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:50.000
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean, connect three point zero making

638
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:51.079
<v Speaker 2>it once.

639
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Again definitely not uh, but that's someone that I can

640
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:56.000
<v Speaker 1>think of. It is that he's going to be completely open.

641
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>He says, they already have a deal with Epic, you know,

642
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the only one that obviously he would He has a

643
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:08.159
<v Speaker 1>gave right there next to him and Valve. Could they

644
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:10.400
<v Speaker 1>work out something where they would allow a version of

645
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Steam OS to be on Xbox and Steam gets some

646
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:17.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of cut or of every sale or whatever that

647
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 1>happens to the Steam OS. I don't know, but that's

648
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:22.599
<v Speaker 1>something I could think of. Is that basically the next

649
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Xbox will be a PC straight up with an Xbox OS,

650
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:29.639
<v Speaker 1>which they're they're heading there. He talks about that as well.

651
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:33.639
<v Speaker 1>He says, we want to build an Xbox OS so

652
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:36.400
<v Speaker 1>that when we have our handheld, well we have our

653
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>next system. You're using a version of Windows that is

654
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:43.639
<v Speaker 1>basically built with Xbox in mind, so that if you

655
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:46.519
<v Speaker 1>want to go to a desktop with your handheld, you can,

656
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:50.679
<v Speaker 1>but you will be an Xbox OS thing first and

657
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.920
<v Speaker 1>then obviously I don't know if it's going to be

658
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:56.039
<v Speaker 1>open to be able to have Steam os and other

659
00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:56.639
<v Speaker 1>stuff on there.

660
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:58.960
<v Speaker 2>So I don't even trust them to make a good

661
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.800
<v Speaker 2>OS now computers, let alone for a console.

662
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, definitely their app needs work for sure.

663
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Well I don't mean like that. I mean, like eleven

664
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:08.960
<v Speaker 2>sucks ass so.

665
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:12.280
<v Speaker 1>But it's the it's the operating system that exists. It's

666
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:13.519
<v Speaker 1>the one, the only one.

667
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like the default one. I mean people are

668
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:19.880
<v Speaker 2>talking like more and more about how Steamo West might

669
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.760
<v Speaker 2>be like on computer someday, and it's like, yeah, that's

670
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:23.519
<v Speaker 2>a nice fantasy.

671
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:27.760
<v Speaker 1>But no, uh well, see, it's gonna start with the

672
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:32.280
<v Speaker 1>portable PCs. We'll see if if they if it keeps going,

673
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:35.400
<v Speaker 1>well you know, maybe I won't rule that out.

674
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't trust them even make a good PC console

675
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:42.280
<v Speaker 2>or PC. Oh, wes, let alone some handheld one, like.

676
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:46.599
<v Speaker 1>He says, it's being worked on. We're apparently going to

677
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:50.559
<v Speaker 1>see something about the handheld before the end of the year.

678
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:55.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they's announced some partner and they announce like Marcus

679
00:37:55.280 --> 00:38:00.320
<v Speaker 2>up Windows eleven, uh minimum Edition or pocket edition or something,

680
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:00.519
<v Speaker 2>you know.

681
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:04.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he also talks about the reason why they want

682
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>The reason why this whole strategy for PS five is

683
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:11.559
<v Speaker 1>that it's about the creatives. It's about what the actual

684
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the devs want. That the devs want games to be

685
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:19.599
<v Speaker 1>everywhere because it helps them have the most sales as possible. Obviously,

686
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:21.199
<v Speaker 1>you know.

687
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:25.039
<v Speaker 2>The devs don't want to be on game Pass.

688
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Ironically enough, Yeah, I mean, he talks about how that's

689
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>actually been kind of misconstrued. That's not They actually fought

690
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>back on that. I think they released it a couple

691
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:39.400
<v Speaker 1>of days after we did the last episode. He says

692
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:43.639
<v Speaker 1>that I think Insider Gaming had the report basically refuting

693
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:47.039
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that information thing that we talked about

694
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:51.199
<v Speaker 1>last week, essentially saying that we've shown that we have

695
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>grown every period, every quarter, and part of that is

696
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>also game Pass. They're not giving them out out the

697
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.440
<v Speaker 1>amounts that they used to, which.

698
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Is part of it. That's that's a telltale sign, like

699
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:08.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they've got ten more people they're gonna go

700
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:11.199
<v Speaker 2>like or growing, but it's not the one hundred million

701
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:11.760
<v Speaker 2>they wanted.

702
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:14.280
<v Speaker 1>No, No, definitely it's not. That's part of the reason

703
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.519
<v Speaker 1>why they had to pivot over to Okay, we're gonna

704
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:21.360
<v Speaker 1>give our games, the PlayStation and Nintendo. But it's also

705
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I can understand they want to push things forward. They

706
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:29.400
<v Speaker 1>want to again kind of like, let's move the industry

707
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:32.400
<v Speaker 1>this way because everybody wants every things on everything. Obviously,

708
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo's gonna be on its own as long as possible

709
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.039
<v Speaker 1>because they kind of they will always see themselves a

710
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>toy company first, not necessarily anything else. I mean, look

711
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.559
<v Speaker 1>at the Switch one. Uh, they didn't really have a

712
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.519
<v Speaker 1>lot of apps on that thing, so I mean, they

713
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:53.719
<v Speaker 1>were all about the games for that thing. So I

714
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:56.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's gonna change much this go around either,

715
00:39:57.599 --> 00:39:59.679
<v Speaker 1>but we'll see if they embrace some of that. At

716
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>least it seems like they're embracing like voice chat or whatever,

717
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:07.280
<v Speaker 1>if the rumors are correct on that. But look, there's

718
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:10.159
<v Speaker 1>still a lot of you know, kind of I'm not

719
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:12.559
<v Speaker 1>gonna give you a straight direct answer, but I think

720
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:15.400
<v Speaker 1>this is the clearest he's ever been about. Look, this

721
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:18.559
<v Speaker 1>is our strategy. Whether you like it or not, this

722
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:20.920
<v Speaker 1>is what we're doing. You can either get on board

723
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:24.199
<v Speaker 1>or you can, you know, go do whatever it is

724
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:27.559
<v Speaker 1>you want. But he's basically saying get ready because you're

725
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:32.119
<v Speaker 1>gonna see more of this, Sonya might be putting their

726
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:36.519
<v Speaker 1>games on PC faster, not necessarily that they're gonna I

727
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:39.079
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe they're gonna work with Nintendo more. Maybe

728
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Horizon is not the last one. But they don't make

729
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:43.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of kiddie games either, so I don't know

730
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:48.320
<v Speaker 1>what they could really give Nintendo that lego God of

731
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:55.119
<v Speaker 1>War like exactly. But that's the thing he talks about

732
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:57.599
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that stuff. It's like, why you need

733
00:40:57.719 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>on the console. We think we're gonna innovate. We're gonna

734
00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 1>do something different than just basically doing the same thing

735
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:08.320
<v Speaker 1>as Sony but having a different box. He understands that

736
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:11.119
<v Speaker 1>boxes in the name they they're gonna have a console

737
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:14.039
<v Speaker 1>for as long as possible, and he says that is

738
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:17.599
<v Speaker 1>also why he knows that people are worried about what

739
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:20.800
<v Speaker 1>happens to our games if the console ever goes away,

740
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:22.840
<v Speaker 1>and he says, this is why we're putting it on

741
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:26.760
<v Speaker 1>other platforms and having everything say which he did they

742
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:29.400
<v Speaker 1>did do at the beginning of developed Erect. He said,

743
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:33.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, everything here is Xbox Play Anywhere, and everything

744
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:35.559
<v Speaker 1>is on game Pass, and that's that's why they want

745
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:38.559
<v Speaker 1>to push the play Anywhere because let's say the console

746
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:42.760
<v Speaker 1>does go away. Play anywhere also means eventually maybe Nintendo

747
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:47.760
<v Speaker 1>also means PlayStation. Uh, you buy it once on your

748
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:49.880
<v Speaker 1>PC and you own it on all of these things

749
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.280
<v Speaker 1>because it's an Xbox product at the end of the day.

750
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:57.320
<v Speaker 1>So you know, if that is the case, right, I

751
00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:01.320
<v Speaker 1>think that pushes maybe Sony he starts doing something like

752
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:05.760
<v Speaker 1>that where it's like, oh, you buy it on PC,

753
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:08.840
<v Speaker 1>you get the PlayStation version for a discount or something

754
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:13.320
<v Speaker 1>like that. I don't know what they're their thing will be,

755
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:17.559
<v Speaker 1>but that's kind of what he says. I know people

756
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:20.639
<v Speaker 1>are mad about they want a whole list of this

757
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>game's coming this day. It's not going to happen, like

758
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:26.639
<v Speaker 1>Mark said, they want to continue to be able to

759
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:30.719
<v Speaker 1>get people to stay subscribed for these games on Game

760
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Pass or go and buy them on a sale.

761
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:38.639
<v Speaker 2>Or it's actually like had a clue is what they

762
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:41.239
<v Speaker 2>should do is release. I mean, I sell the emulator,

763
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:45.119
<v Speaker 2>but like sell their past games on TC in an

764
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:48.840
<v Speaker 2>emulatable form, like I'll pay twenty bucks or thirty bucks

765
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:52.280
<v Speaker 2>for Lost Odyssey on TC. You know, it doesn't need

766
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:54.679
<v Speaker 2>to be a CE remaster or anything. Just give me

767
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:58.760
<v Speaker 2>a basic as port of that game or h amp

768
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:01.039
<v Speaker 2>three or fifty cent Blood in the Sand.

769
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean I think they also have to

770
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:09.800
<v Speaker 1>be the publisher of that game then, you know. I mean, yeah,

771
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Lost Odyssey, they could. Uh, they did it for the

772
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:17.519
<v Speaker 1>back compat it's there, you can buy it right off

773
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the store.

774
00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:23.199
<v Speaker 2>But it's still on the Xbox version or right exactly. Yeah,

775
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:24.559
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you.

776
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to see them do a wider version of

777
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>this where a lot of the games that are Xbox

778
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>one compatible also, But I don't know if there's licensing

779
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:35.719
<v Speaker 1>things that they have to do, if Miss Walker then

780
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>has to get involved again or or whatever with that.

781
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:43.239
<v Speaker 2>So you know, no, he doesn't. Dude doesn't want to

782
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:45.599
<v Speaker 2>make it or remake it of it or anything. He

783
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:48.039
<v Speaker 2>just you know, but it's like, Okay, you're not it

784
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:52.400
<v Speaker 2>ain't cut this, ain't you don't have any your participation

785
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:56.039
<v Speaker 2>in this is not required, Like we are just putting

786
00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:59.000
<v Speaker 2>this on PC and like some Xbox or six scamulator

787
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:01.239
<v Speaker 2>that like might be able to run it a little better,

788
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:02.599
<v Speaker 2>but might not.

789
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean he he does also mention that as well,

790
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:10.199
<v Speaker 1>like they uh, I think it's destin legitimately asked him

791
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:14.519
<v Speaker 1>like when he talks about Okay, is everything just going

792
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:17.119
<v Speaker 1>to PS five and TENO with this one? He said no,

793
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:22.440
<v Speaker 1>because there's shift games that just aren't worth it for

794
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:24.400
<v Speaker 1>us to put on.

795
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:26.480
<v Speaker 2>That.

796
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like Starfield about Starfield, but like let's say, like okay,

797
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:34.039
<v Speaker 1>putting Record which wasn't a great game, or Red Fall

798
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:37.239
<v Speaker 1>on some of these other it doesn't. It's not worth

799
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:37.639
<v Speaker 1>it to them.

800
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.480
<v Speaker 2>It didn't make sense, wouldn't it wouldn't it be funny

801
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.320
<v Speaker 2>though to put Red Fall on five? And it was

802
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:47.840
<v Speaker 2>just like antic hit Rights or something like that, like

803
00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:50.320
<v Speaker 2>completely blows Rubble Rivals out of the water.

804
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:54.280
<v Speaker 1>The Gears tactic scheme, for example, I don't think you

805
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:58.079
<v Speaker 1>know that's gonna come. Uh, even the older Gears titles,

806
00:44:58.159 --> 00:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>like I think they want to wait to see, like

807
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:03.320
<v Speaker 1>what if? How does Eday do? Is it worth it

808
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:07.440
<v Speaker 1>for us to because they're probably gonna want to remaster too,

809
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:14.280
<v Speaker 1>through judgment or whatever to put on there. Also, Gears

810
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:17.360
<v Speaker 1>E Day also has a new code developer their old

811
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:20.599
<v Speaker 1>code developer, and People Can Fly has returned. So it's

812
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:23.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a perfect Dark situation with Crystal Dynamics

813
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and initiatives. Nine more years to come out then, that's

814
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:29.880
<v Speaker 1>what also is kind of weird, like, Okay, we just

815
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>announced this code developer thing, but then we also have

816
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:35.440
<v Speaker 1>people talking about how apparently it's coming out sooner rather

817
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:37.880
<v Speaker 1>than later. So it's like, I still don't think I

818
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>would be absolutely shocked if both gears E Day and

819
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Fable come out this year, because it's like, dude, are

820
00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:46.280
<v Speaker 1>you just blowing your whole load on twenty twenty five

821
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and then like, what do you have for next year?

822
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:51.079
<v Speaker 2>So I could I could see e Eday hitting very

823
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:55.119
<v Speaker 2>late this year, like not like December thirtieth, but let's

824
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:58.039
<v Speaker 2>take December like Fable no way.

825
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could see them pushing. I can see them

826
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:03.320
<v Speaker 1>doing the AVOWT thing and pushing Fables like February of

827
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:03.880
<v Speaker 1>next year.

828
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:07.119
<v Speaker 2>I can see him pushing it. That's like February and

829
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:08.400
<v Speaker 2>March of like twenty twenty nine.

830
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:11.880
<v Speaker 1>No, that thing's a lot farther along.

831
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.079
<v Speaker 2>It's like, here's another trailer with Richard I forget the

832
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:18.079
<v Speaker 2>guy's name. Yeah, I know it's Moss from the IT crowd.

833
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, cool, I guess yeah.

834
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:26.360
<v Speaker 1>It's just it is at least as far as XBOS goes,

835
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:29.199
<v Speaker 1>what they showed their lineup that they have. It's a

836
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.639
<v Speaker 1>weird time because it's like, imagine if you hadn't done

837
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.800
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing where you're giving your games to PlayStation

838
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:39.039
<v Speaker 1>and Nintendo or whatever. It's like, now you finally have

839
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:42.760
<v Speaker 1>the games. Now you finally have the lineup that could

840
00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:46.519
<v Speaker 1>actually kind of compete when Sony's down, when Sony doesn't

841
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:49.719
<v Speaker 1>have a bunch of games coming out, right that you

842
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:54.719
<v Speaker 1>just lost the munts to cancel projects, and like the

843
00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:57.559
<v Speaker 1>only thing we know that's happening that we have no

844
00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:01.760
<v Speaker 1>idea when that's going to come out is Horizon, you know,

845
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:09.079
<v Speaker 1>the multiplayer game, Fair Games whatever Sonny Santa Monica is

846
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:13.760
<v Speaker 1>working on. That's not God of War and whatever Corey

847
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Barlog's working on. Uh that we we don't know really

848
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:21.880
<v Speaker 1>supposed to God of Wars just going to another uh

849
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:26.280
<v Speaker 1>mytholog you know, mythology, but we don't know when and

850
00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:28.599
<v Speaker 1>where that's coming. So it's like.

851
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:31.639
<v Speaker 2>It'll be the Christian mythology.

852
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like Lost Profits not coming out anytime soon. So

853
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:39.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like and worse off, Last of Us three is

854
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:42.079
<v Speaker 1>not coming out anytimes So it's like this was really

855
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:46.360
<v Speaker 1>the time for Xbox to game ground and you kind

856
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:48.639
<v Speaker 1>of like already lost that, right, so now it's just

857
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 1>about like, Okay, well, I guess you can just deliver

858
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:56.280
<v Speaker 1>great games and make it worth it to for people

859
00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:58.360
<v Speaker 1>that won't have game Pass, I guess at that point.

860
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:02.239
<v Speaker 1>But look, there's a lot of stuff in those interviews.

861
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:04.599
<v Speaker 1>Both of them are like thirty five Both of them

862
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:08.079
<v Speaker 1>are like around thirty minutes that you can go watch

863
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:10.679
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube if you want to hear the whole interview

864
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:14.559
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Lots of great questions for Phil, including like

865
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.360
<v Speaker 1>what his legacy is or you know, where he thinks

866
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:20.360
<v Speaker 1>even the industry is going to be going, and stuff

867
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:24.400
<v Speaker 1>like that, So a lot of stuff to go check out.

868
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:27.960
<v Speaker 1>He does mention the whole Dustin asked him about the

869
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:34.639
<v Speaker 1>XBOS series as compatability, thing like will will they remove that?

870
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:38.239
<v Speaker 1>And he actually he brings up that, like you know,

871
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:42.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously Black with Wukong. The dev Game Science said that

872
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:47.079
<v Speaker 1>basically they blamed the series s and not having less

873
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:50.719
<v Speaker 1>familiarity with that to be able to do the the

874
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:54.159
<v Speaker 1>optimization for it. So that's why it didn't come Nextbuck supposedly,

875
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.039
<v Speaker 1>which I can understand, right, they had to end up

876
00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:00.360
<v Speaker 1>removing that for boulders Gate three to be able to

877
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 1>show up on Xbox. I don't know why Black with

878
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Lukon didn't get that same treatment, but it is what

879
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:08.199
<v Speaker 1>it is.

880
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

881
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:11.920
<v Speaker 1>He says he's not going to remove it because people

882
00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:13.920
<v Speaker 1>got to optimize for Scheme Deck now, people got to

883
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.239
<v Speaker 1>optimize a rage ally now, people got to you know,

884
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Lenovo for all the other a portable PCs. Now for

885
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the you know, Sony's basically streaming to the portal. But

886
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:29.960
<v Speaker 1>like when the when the Sony hanhel comes out, and

887
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:32.800
<v Speaker 1>when the Xbox Handheld comes out, they're gonna have to

888
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:35.320
<v Speaker 1>learn how to optimize for that too. So I guess

889
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:38.480
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I'm not going to remove the compatibility thing

890
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:42.079
<v Speaker 1>with this because they're optimizing for more and more things now,

891
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:44.880
<v Speaker 1>so they kind of should be able to do it

892
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:47.599
<v Speaker 1>for series, which I kind of understand, but I feel

893
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:50.440
<v Speaker 1>like make exceptions for the games that just can't do

894
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:52.480
<v Speaker 1>it instead of not having it on your platform at all.

895
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:58.199
<v Speaker 2>But well, also, like THEES is old, so they can't.

896
00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:01.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean we can talk about later it's on Fantasy,

897
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:03.800
<v Speaker 2>but like they can only optimize a certain point. Yeah,

898
00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:06.159
<v Speaker 2>they run run at a head room and this is

899
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:07.800
<v Speaker 2>it either accept it or you don't.

900
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the RAM can't can't do it or whatever. And

901
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:13.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's also interesting because it's like Series S

902
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:16.840
<v Speaker 1>is is the console that's sold the most, so it's

903
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:20.400
<v Speaker 1>like they can't really say no to it because more

904
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:22.679
<v Speaker 1>people have Series S's than Series X's.

905
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:23.679
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

906
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:25.719
<v Speaker 1>And then and they need those consoles to be able

907
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:29.119
<v Speaker 1>to have the latest games or if not, you know,

908
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.679
<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna have a reason to have that console. Yeah,

909
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:37.559
<v Speaker 1>they can stream stuff, but not everybody can stream. So yeah, again, Uh,

910
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:41.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff worth checking out on those interviews if you want.

911
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Don't need to keep belaboring the point. There was a

912
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:48.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of Xbox stuff this week. It was a lot

913
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:53.400
<v Speaker 1>of what was the kind of commanding thing? Uh this week,

914
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:59.800
<v Speaker 1>But we do move on here to not Xbox stuff

915
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:06.360
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit. It's just getting into just really quick.

916
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:09.159
<v Speaker 1>We'll get into the so many stuff and then we'll

917
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:13.400
<v Speaker 1>talk about rebirth also because we have a final Fantasy

918
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:17.840
<v Speaker 1>story to talk about here. Two of them. But they

919
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:22.159
<v Speaker 1>announced today, because we just talked about koy Tecmo, Rose

920
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:24.920
<v Speaker 1>of Rona is going to go to PC. It's gonna

921
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:28.119
<v Speaker 1>be on Steam March eleventh, twenty twenty five. It's gonna

922
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:31.320
<v Speaker 1>cost fifty bucks on Steam. It's gonna be able to

923
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 1>go up to eight K support, direct X have one

924
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:39.400
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty fps, three D audio support, DLSS, all

925
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:42.039
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. So it looks like it's gonna be the

926
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess definitive version Rise, which was a fine game.

927
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I've heard it was good.

928
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:53.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, we know some O the Blade is eventually

929
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:55.519
<v Speaker 1>gonna go to PC. Shift Up has said that as well,

930
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:58.760
<v Speaker 1>So you know the to to so many like second

931
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:00.119
<v Speaker 1>party games from last year.

932
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:04.519
<v Speaker 2>Are are gonna win the switch?

933
00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't. I don't think so. Also, in uh

934
00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:17.320
<v Speaker 1>interesting that we talked about it last week that you know,

935
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.039
<v Speaker 1>they canceled the God of War Blue Point game and

936
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:25.599
<v Speaker 1>the Sony benz uh Life Service game. This is apparently

937
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:30.159
<v Speaker 1>not a Sony decision. We know that NCSoft was working

938
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:36.079
<v Speaker 1>on a Horizon MMO. Yeah, supposedly whatever it was called

939
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Project H. They also have a Project J and a

940
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Project Pantera. The belief is that Project H was the

941
00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Horizon H M m O that was being worked on. Obviously,

942
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:51.840
<v Speaker 1>NCSoft with Guild Wars has.

943
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:56.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping Project J was a was a jumping flash.

944
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:04.239
<v Speaker 1>That that's separate from the Gorilla multiplayer game that's being working. Yeah,

945
00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like this is as big a loss

946
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:09.920
<v Speaker 1>as the other two that we talked about last week

947
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:11.400
<v Speaker 1>because it was a.

948
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Little more nebulous. And then also like it's what she's

949
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:17.159
<v Speaker 2>and she's not is known for is like making MMOs.

950
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:21.280
<v Speaker 2>So them having to cancel something that you don't even

951
00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:25.000
<v Speaker 2>know how far on it was necessarily like that's yeah, okay,

952
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean they can make someone else and that whee

953
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:30.599
<v Speaker 2>allows or you know, like it's not the it's not

954
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:33.800
<v Speaker 2>like I think the tragedy for like Blue Point Games

955
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:35.960
<v Speaker 2>specifically is like what you said last week is like,

956
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:38.000
<v Speaker 2>what what are they gonna make for this that's the

957
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:43.360
<v Speaker 2>console cycle? Nothing, because it would take let's say even

958
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:46.039
<v Speaker 2>like tomorrow they're like, okay, are making another game. It

959
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:47.679
<v Speaker 2>would take them at least three or four years to

960
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:49.800
<v Speaker 2>school up to make it. They're not gonna just crap

961
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:50.800
<v Speaker 2>something out in six months.

962
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, unless they're just doing a straight like just remaster,

963
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:56.840
<v Speaker 1>uprights in the graphics or whatever. But if they're doing

964
00:53:56.880 --> 00:53:59.199
<v Speaker 1>a remake, they did Demon Souls.

965
00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's and I talked about that and he was like,

966
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:04.800
<v Speaker 2>it's not not remaining a big loss, and I was like,

967
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:07.760
<v Speaker 2>you like that Demon Souls, you know remaker. He's like,

968
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:11.360
<v Speaker 2>well it, you know, it changed a little from what

969
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:13.800
<v Speaker 2>the original was, and they didn't. It wasn't like one

970
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:16.800
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent faithful or whatever. I'm like, well, I tell

971
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:19.239
<v Speaker 2>you yeah, and I like this one.

972
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:24.119
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, a lot of people did, right. I mean

973
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:26.199
<v Speaker 1>they also did the Shadow of Loss remake, which was

974
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:29.239
<v Speaker 1>well received too. I mean like, right, they could have

975
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:33.440
<v Speaker 1>done a remake of another game, right, Actually, what I

976
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:37.719
<v Speaker 1>thought when when people started doing rumors of oh they're

977
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:40.880
<v Speaker 1>doing remasters of God of War the other God of

978
00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:44.480
<v Speaker 1>War games, I thought maybe Luepoint was doing that. And

979
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:47.920
<v Speaker 1>now they announced that it was that live service game,

980
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:52.039
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, again, you know who's like this seemed

981
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:54.199
<v Speaker 1>more like of a Sony just kind of said, hey,

982
00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:57.159
<v Speaker 1>NC suck and y'all do uh, how much do we

983
00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:02.199
<v Speaker 1>need to pay you to do a Horizon MMO or whatever?

984
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:06.159
<v Speaker 1>And then her he saw just the budget wasn't.

985
00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:08.760
<v Speaker 2>There or or yeah, it felt very much like a

986
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:11.400
<v Speaker 2>pay for game type of thing. Yeah wait, I mean

987
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:13.679
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to pay for it or it wasn't going

988
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:15.880
<v Speaker 2>how they wanted. I just wanted to probably right, to

989
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:19.159
<v Speaker 2>step away from it or yeah exactly, or if it

990
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:22.559
<v Speaker 2>wasn't the soft standards like all right, well we're just

991
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:26.199
<v Speaker 2>gonna quietly shove this or whatever. And but like the

992
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:28.679
<v Speaker 2>Blue Point stuff or even like the Ben Studio stuff,

993
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:32.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like, yeah, it's a down. Yeah.

994
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:34.639
<v Speaker 1>After Concord, it feels like heoki to Tokey after he

995
00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>had the kind of damning thing to say was he's

996
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:41.000
<v Speaker 1>just kind of going through the books and going, Okay,

997
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:46.719
<v Speaker 1>this is not gonna go anywhere. This is not going anywhere. Uh,

998
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:50.639
<v Speaker 1>or maybe he's having to tell Herman host like, we

999
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:52.320
<v Speaker 1>got to make some of this money back. We got

1000
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:55.000
<v Speaker 1>to make some of this budget back. You need to

1001
00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:58.000
<v Speaker 1>start going to these studios and figuring out which ones

1002
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:01.760
<v Speaker 1>are going to be you know, canceled. Hopefully nobody loses

1003
00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:04.920
<v Speaker 1>jobs or whatever. But it's just like, obviously, you know

1004
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:09.079
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna kill your baby and the Horizon multiplayer

1005
00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:12.280
<v Speaker 1>game because you know he's from Gorilla and all that,

1006
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:17.960
<v Speaker 1>let's be honest. But it's just like and Herman Holst

1007
00:56:18.039 --> 00:56:21.639
<v Speaker 1>has it's interesting to me, like where it's like, Okay,

1008
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I get it that you want him to keep his

1009
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:26.559
<v Speaker 1>Uh you don't you obviously you de signed on this

1010
00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:31.960
<v Speaker 1>too CEO thing, and it's like it feels like Herman

1011
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:35.079
<v Speaker 1>Hols has a lot to do with along with Jim Ryan.

1012
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Why we're in this place that we're in. It's like, yeah,

1013
00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:43.840
<v Speaker 1>so he's CEO still why I mean, obviously you got

1014
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:45.599
<v Speaker 1>to give him credit for the good stuff too, But.

1015
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's funny that, like if you compare Gorilla Games

1016
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:52.000
<v Speaker 2>to like Naughty Dog, Naughty Dog makes like three games

1017
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:55.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe four, Yeah, I mean move into something else or

1018
00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:56.880
<v Speaker 2>they always have. They always have at least one or

1019
00:56:56.920 --> 00:56:59.679
<v Speaker 2>two other things kind of in the works horizon. You know,

1020
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Earians in the Stecond Horizon since twenty seventeen. It's okay

1021
00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:07.960
<v Speaker 2>but not super you know, the most popular thing in

1022
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:10.280
<v Speaker 2>the world, and they just keep like that's like they're

1023
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:13.000
<v Speaker 2>only money maker or like the only thing they're interested

1024
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:13.440
<v Speaker 2>in them.

1025
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:17.559
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean forgetting West sold a lot better than zero,

1026
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:22.039
<v Speaker 1>don you know, still not the numbers. I think they

1027
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:26.239
<v Speaker 1>definitely wanted it to hit or whatever. Right now, they're

1028
00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:29.719
<v Speaker 1>making a movie. The TV show didn't work out, the

1029
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:31.159
<v Speaker 1>semi mode didn't work out.

1030
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:34.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, I may have specific issues with a how

1031
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:38.039
<v Speaker 2>the intergalactic character looks, but like I'm interested in that

1032
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:38.840
<v Speaker 2>game as a.

1033
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Whole, right, because Naughty Dog doesn't miss, right, They're.

1034
00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Not like I mean, they make jack acts, so they're

1035
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:47.159
<v Speaker 2>not in fallible.

1036
00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:51.239
<v Speaker 1>No, but i mean since Last of Us, right, since Uncharted,

1037
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:52.639
<v Speaker 1>do they really miss no?

1038
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:53.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1039
00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Like, so that's the thing is like, we know we

1040
00:57:57.199 --> 00:57:59.840
<v Speaker 1>could trust same thing with Insomniac, right, you know you

1041
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:02.760
<v Speaker 1>can trust them at least from the sony side of things.

1042
00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:06.519
<v Speaker 1>They've made some bad games, but like are.

1043
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:12.039
<v Speaker 2>Just a tag more creative than you know, Gorilla unfortunately, right.

1044
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:15.079
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, well, Gorilla, you know, they're done with

1045
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:18.480
<v Speaker 1>those past franchises of theirs. They've said, so, uh, this

1046
00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:19.960
<v Speaker 1>is kind of the thing that they want to do.

1047
00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:22.800
<v Speaker 1>We know there's a Horizon three somewhere and the works there.

1048
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:29.199
<v Speaker 1>That VR game didn't work out either forgot to so yeah,

1049
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:32.719
<v Speaker 1>so it's like there's a lot of that franchise that

1050
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:35.559
<v Speaker 1>they've even shoe Heyoshida said it. He said, I'm I

1051
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:40.039
<v Speaker 1>was surprised and shocked at how well we expected Horizon

1052
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:43.639
<v Speaker 1>to do and it didn't do what we wanted it to.

1053
00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:46.079
<v Speaker 1>So it's like and they've kept on with the series

1054
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:48.679
<v Speaker 1>and you know, commendable for so many to let them

1055
00:58:48.719 --> 00:58:49.559
<v Speaker 1>have their franchise.

1056
00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:52.679
<v Speaker 2>But you know that's that's another game like Forbidden West specifically,

1057
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.599
<v Speaker 2>I talked about this like last week. If that game

1058
00:58:55.679 --> 00:59:01.719
<v Speaker 2>is smaller and the budget was twenty I mean, you

1059
00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:05.519
<v Speaker 2>can't requantify a percentage to like dollar. But if they

1060
00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:07.199
<v Speaker 2>were able to shave off twenty percent of the game

1061
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.480
<v Speaker 2>and shave off like ten to twenty of the budget,

1062
00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:14.400
<v Speaker 2>that game stot have ben aok. Size wise, Like that

1063
00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:17.760
<v Speaker 2>game is like massive in scale and it doesn't need

1064
00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:21.880
<v Speaker 2>to be like make a smaller, more concise game, please,

1065
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:23.639
<v Speaker 2>and I'll be much happier.

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00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:29.199
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you there, I think awesome. I mean,

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00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:31.159
<v Speaker 1>just to bring up and Sonia because you know, Ted

1068
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Price retired after thirty years of being with the company,

1069
00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:37.840
<v Speaker 1>which well that's a long time. I mean he's he's

1070
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:41.360
<v Speaker 1>been around since the beginning. He's a co founder ever

1071
00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:46.039
<v Speaker 1>since their first game was around for you know, the

1072
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:50.039
<v Speaker 1>success of The Spiro and then obviously working with so

1073
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:56.239
<v Speaker 1>many the first time around to do Ratching Klank, And

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00:59:56.599 --> 00:59:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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00:59:57.480 --> 01:00:00.639
<v Speaker 2>There aren't a lot of these old guys left that

1076
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:04.440
<v Speaker 2>like I wouldn't I mean I wouldn't say started a company,

1077
01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:07.239
<v Speaker 2>but like have been with the company like forever. It's

1078
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:09.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, type Price is one, you know me and

1079
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Moto is another, even though he's a little stepped off now,

1080
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:15.239
<v Speaker 2>but he's still Like at Nintendo.

1081
01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:19.400
<v Speaker 1>She had just retired, right, yeah, but even like.

1082
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:22.880
<v Speaker 2>The old guard you would think of, like John Carmack

1083
01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:27.679
<v Speaker 2>or Cliff Blazinski, like they they're they haven't gone for years, right,

1084
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:29.119
<v Speaker 2>It's like what happened?

1085
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:33.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean they went to go do their own things, right, right,

1086
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Cliffy's didn't Cliff Cliff Pixy didn't work out, even though

1087
01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess he's now trying to bring back at Breakers.

1088
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:45.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where that finally ended with that, but

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01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Ted Price, you know, he carried him through. He he

1090
01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:54.039
<v Speaker 1>helped the studio through all this these times, right from

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01:00:54.559 --> 01:00:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the beginning through the Rats and and Clank years to

1092
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:03.480
<v Speaker 1>going away a from publishing to doing fuse to doing

1093
01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:06.679
<v Speaker 1>uh oh god, what's the Xbox one that I can't

1094
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:12.679
<v Speaker 1>think of? Set Overdrive? So then coming back to Sony

1095
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:15.360
<v Speaker 1>because at one point they wanted to own all the ips.

1096
01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:19.199
<v Speaker 1>They they didn't get to own Spiral, they didn't get

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01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:24.199
<v Speaker 1>to own a ratching Clank, and so like they wanted

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01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:26.159
<v Speaker 1>to own the rips. They did all a bunch of

1099
01:01:26.199 --> 01:01:30.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff with Oculus for a while and did a bunch

1100
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:33.039
<v Speaker 1>of games for them. Uh. And then then they came

1101
01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:35.840
<v Speaker 1>back through Spider Man and Sony finally brought them after that.

1102
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:40.119
<v Speaker 1>There's there's been rumors that Sony tried to buy them

1104
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:44.760
<v Speaker 1>before that, but like it's never been kind of plainly

1105
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:46.800
<v Speaker 1>stated by anybody that they did.

1106
01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I could see that, especially when they made us before

1107
01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:51.800
<v Speaker 2>they made us and send it over.

1108
01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Ye, Clank was successful for the most part, aside from

1109
01:01:57.719 --> 01:02:00.679
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the movie that didn't do that well.

1110
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:04.519
<v Speaker 1>But honestly, oddly enough, they they had a statement saying

1111
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.199
<v Speaker 1>that they would kind of be open to doing more

1112
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Ratchet and Clank other medium stuff, which maybe with how

1113
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Sonic is popular.

1114
01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:17.960
<v Speaker 2>To drop Rachet on Earth and hook him up with

1115
01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:19.800
<v Speaker 2>James Marston.

1116
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:22.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe you do Jack and Daxter rationing and

1117
01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Clank team up person. Uh. But the thing is Ted

1118
01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:32.519
<v Speaker 1>Price was so pivotal to them that they actually have

1119
01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:39.000
<v Speaker 1>to have three CEOs to take his place. Two of

1120
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:41.920
<v Speaker 1>them are not gain developers, one of them is a

1121
01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:49.239
<v Speaker 1>marketing guy. I think it's Chad desern is the marketing guy. Uh.

1122
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Then Yen Huang used to is their like CFO that

1123
01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:56.079
<v Speaker 1>is now going to be the CEO, and then Ryan

1124
01:02:56.320 --> 01:03:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Snyder also And it's like, wow, it's crazy enough that

1125
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:09.079
<v Speaker 1>Sony has two CEOs themselves. I've never heard of a

1126
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:11.960
<v Speaker 1>big company having three in it working out.

1127
01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean want to get kind of cast off,

1128
01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:18.880
<v Speaker 2>like they should honestly just have the CSO guy and

1129
01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:22.639
<v Speaker 2>the big guy there like marketing.

1130
01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the one dev right that, Hey, Crafty, what's

1131
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:32.199
<v Speaker 1>going on? Happy to know that you're watching live here

1132
01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:35.719
<v Speaker 1>at like you know, it's just it's it's weird, Like

1133
01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:38.159
<v Speaker 1>I understand, Okay, have the dev SO that he kind

1134
01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:40.920
<v Speaker 1>of has that experience of working with the teams that way,

1135
01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:43.639
<v Speaker 1>and then like have the CFO and then you know,

1136
01:03:43.800 --> 01:03:45.800
<v Speaker 1>you can have the marketing guy go back to doing whatever.

1137
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was okay, we're promoting all

1138
01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:49.920
<v Speaker 1>of them because we don't want one of them to

1139
01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:53.920
<v Speaker 1>leave or something like that. But it's three CEOs like

1140
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:59.239
<v Speaker 1>that just seems like a recipe for not good stuff.

1141
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, right, we know they got two high profile

1142
01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:05.559
<v Speaker 1>games coming, right, Wolverine's coming at some point, whether it's

1143
01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:09.400
<v Speaker 1>next year, I don't think it's coming this year and

1144
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:12.679
<v Speaker 1>then Spider Man three down the line somewhere, and and

1145
01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:18.280
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of it, right, So yeah, I mean, hey,

1146
01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:21.000
<v Speaker 1>they could technically, right, they don't have to have Microsoft's

1147
01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:24.840
<v Speaker 1>approval for that. They technically could uh make Sunset Over

1148
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:26.960
<v Speaker 1>or if they wanted to, but Sony would also have

1149
01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:30.480
<v Speaker 1>to kind of like okay that right, which I know

1150
01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:33.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe with this thing again where Xbox is putting

1151
01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:36.480
<v Speaker 1>their games on PlayStation, maybe though, they'll all kind of

1152
01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:38.880
<v Speaker 1>come to a head and say, hey, what if you

1153
01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:42.079
<v Speaker 1>make this multi platform, let's all do it, right, I

1154
01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:44.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but it's not like sun Set Over or

1155
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I've sold like crazy numbers either, but it's a beloved game. Yeah.

1156
01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:55.960
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean, like you said, there's not a

1157
01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:59.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of these guys that have been around thirty years

1158
01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:03.480
<v Speaker 1>or whatever in the industry still around like that. That's

1159
01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:05.239
<v Speaker 1>not We're at Nintendo.

1160
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mark Sny still around. Still trot him out, but

1161
01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:12.400
<v Speaker 2>he's not like a game developer per se, right.

1162
01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:17.599
<v Speaker 1>He's he's helping with the consoles when they that guy. Yeah,

1163
01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:22.079
<v Speaker 1>but we move to we're going to talk about the

1164
01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:24.920
<v Speaker 1>one game that we're going to talk about that Mark's

1165
01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:26.960
<v Speaker 1>been playing because I can't talk about the two games

1166
01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:31.119
<v Speaker 1>that I've been playing due to embargo other than that,

1167
01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, both of them are India, not playing some

1168
01:05:33.119 --> 01:05:37.840
<v Speaker 1>big Triple A game, but you're playing five Fans seveny Birth.

1169
01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:43.199
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned on PC, you mentioned you did the review already.

1170
01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:46.159
<v Speaker 1>Would you end up giving it? I get to give

1171
01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:48.519
<v Speaker 1>it a ten A ten, Okay.

1172
01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it is better on PC, or at

1173
01:05:52.159 --> 01:05:55.639
<v Speaker 2>least on my PC. Have a good PC, so it helps.

1174
01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:57.599
<v Speaker 2>I ran it like same a second.

1175
01:05:58.239 --> 01:05:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Uh, that's pretty awesome.

1176
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it dips like occasionally, like in like weird spots,

1177
01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:05.599
<v Speaker 2>but like nothing like it will dip like to like

1178
01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:08.679
<v Speaker 2>eighty eight frames a second. It's not like twenty or

1179
01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:12.119
<v Speaker 2>anything like that. It just feels a lot snappier and better.

1180
01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:16.199
<v Speaker 2>The weird thing is when I first ran it, it

1181
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:20.559
<v Speaker 2>had audio issues where every four seconds the auto was

1182
01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:24.599
<v Speaker 2>cutting out of everything, like the music, sound effects, voice acting.

1183
01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:28.719
<v Speaker 2>It's like that opening scene where like Zach is carrying

1184
01:06:28.840 --> 01:06:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Cloud right in the mid guard and like you see

1185
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:35.880
<v Speaker 2>the helicopter carrying the bodies out like so like I

1186
01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:38.039
<v Speaker 2>did a bunch of stuff on the PC, like up

1187
01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:40.840
<v Speaker 2>to the drivers. I haven't like ran like busted it

1188
01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:44.039
<v Speaker 2>down to like low graphics and that didn't fix it.

1189
01:06:44.679 --> 01:06:46.239
<v Speaker 2>I think it was like an actual weird issue with

1190
01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:49.079
<v Speaker 2>like the PS five controller because I loaded the game

1191
01:06:49.199 --> 01:06:52.239
<v Speaker 2>up without it and it ran fine, and I plugged

1192
01:06:52.239 --> 01:06:54.840
<v Speaker 2>it in and then it was still running fine. But

1193
01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:56.719
<v Speaker 2>like before, when it's messing up, I already had it

1194
01:06:56.760 --> 01:06:59.559
<v Speaker 2>plugged in, like when I started a game, and it

1195
01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:03.400
<v Speaker 2>made just been like confusing the like the audio signal

1196
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:05.320
<v Speaker 2>like trying to send it to the controller as well

1197
01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:09.079
<v Speaker 2>for some reason, I don't know. But it's fixed now

1198
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:11.800
<v Speaker 2>that's an important thing, and it's cool.

1199
01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:16.320
<v Speaker 1>And it you know, looks a lot better. Yeah imagine

1200
01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:21.599
<v Speaker 1>like you said, and not looking like a I.

1201
01:07:21.639 --> 01:07:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Can get it to one twenty actually, uh you know,

1202
01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:27.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of no problem. Uh. The two things will point

1203
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:30.400
<v Speaker 2>out this isn't about the game, which I think is good,

1204
01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Like it's the same game. So yeah, if you don't

1205
01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:38.440
<v Speaker 2>like it, that's not you know. But so PC Gamer

1206
01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:41.079
<v Speaker 2>wrote a review of the game and they gave it

1207
01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:44.239
<v Speaker 2>a sixty eight out of one hundred, and wow, no,

1208
01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:48.679
<v Speaker 2>like that's you know, that's that's a word act to grind,

1209
01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:50.320
<v Speaker 2>and like the review is like, oh, it's just kind

1210
01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:53.159
<v Speaker 2>of wheel spinning. Nothing really happened, you know. And they

1211
01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:58.280
<v Speaker 2>mentioned like the repetitive nature of the regions, and it's like, well,

1212
01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:01.159
<v Speaker 2>the repetitive kind. But you don't have to do most

1213
01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:02.519
<v Speaker 2>of that ship if you don't want to, like you

1214
01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:03.639
<v Speaker 2>just go like.

1215
01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're you're not wrong. There's a lot of

1216
01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:10.480
<v Speaker 1>people that had like the I talked about this, and

1217
01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:12.800
<v Speaker 1>we we talked about, you know, the game being our

1218
01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:14.920
<v Speaker 1>game of the year whatever. This was a sentiment that

1219
01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:18.399
<v Speaker 1>the further away we got from the game coming out

1220
01:08:19.399 --> 01:08:22.159
<v Speaker 1>more nor people had this sentiment of oh my god,

1221
01:08:22.279 --> 01:08:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you're just spinning your wheels. So you get to the end,

1222
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:28.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's so much doing the same thing over and over,

1223
01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:31.159
<v Speaker 1>and it's a lot of this stuff feels mandatory, even

1224
01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:33.680
<v Speaker 1>though it's not because I want to. I want to

1225
01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:37.159
<v Speaker 1>experience everything. And it's like, well, technically, you just you

1226
01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:39.840
<v Speaker 1>don't have to, right like you said.

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01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:43.039
<v Speaker 2>You're to do all the battle simulations or you know,

1228
01:08:43.199 --> 01:08:46.279
<v Speaker 2>most of that ship if you want to, you avoid it,

1229
01:08:46.399 --> 01:08:46.680
<v Speaker 2>move on.

1230
01:08:47.359 --> 01:08:49.680
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to do a lot of the extra stuff.

1231
01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:52.520
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to do the I mean, I get

1232
01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:56.520
<v Speaker 1>it that this stuff with Gilgamesh is cool. Uh So

1233
01:08:56.680 --> 01:08:58.640
<v Speaker 1>that means you have to do some of those terrible

1234
01:08:58.760 --> 01:08:59.960
<v Speaker 1>mini games also, but.

1235
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:05.319
<v Speaker 2>Like, but yeah, you know. The two other funny things

1236
01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:08.920
<v Speaker 2>is the dude reviewing it for PC Gamer. He reviewed

1237
01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:11.359
<v Speaker 2>it on because he gave it. He gives this pick.

1238
01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:16.359
<v Speaker 2>PC specs out twenty sixty TI like an NVID twenty

1239
01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:20.760
<v Speaker 2>sixty TI, and it's like, dude, that's old, Like that's

1240
01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:24.479
<v Speaker 2>like five years old, maybe six years old, like right,

1241
01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Like I would assume I don't know if this guy

1242
01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:29.920
<v Speaker 2>is like a freelancer or if he like writes for

1243
01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:33.840
<v Speaker 2>a staff writer or something, but you'd assume PC gamer

1244
01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:38.640
<v Speaker 2>would have PC gamer type rigs, not something like from

1245
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:42.479
<v Speaker 2>five years ago. And the other funny thing about PC Gamer,

1246
01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:44.880
<v Speaker 2>and this is separate from the review, there weren't another

1247
01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:48.920
<v Speaker 2>shitty article about how the game doesn't run run well

1248
01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:51.880
<v Speaker 2>on the Steam deck and it's like, oh wow, no,

1249
01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:55.840
<v Speaker 2>no fucking shit, it doesn't run well, you idiots, Like

1250
01:09:56.520 --> 01:10:00.239
<v Speaker 2>they were like, oh, it's not as good as it

1251
01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:02.680
<v Speaker 2>doesn't look visually as good as met Solid five and

1252
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:07.279
<v Speaker 2>Mad Match. It's like, are you guys stupid? Like those

1253
01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:11.000
<v Speaker 2>games came out a decade ago, Like yeah, I would

1254
01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:13.119
<v Speaker 2>say the fact that runs at all on the Steam

1255
01:10:13.199 --> 01:10:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Deck is kind of a miracle like and there.

1256
01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's people that know how to optimize really

1257
01:10:19.359 --> 01:10:21.199
<v Speaker 1>well for the Steam Deck and stuff, but there's a

1258
01:10:21.279 --> 01:10:25.079
<v Speaker 1>lot of things that don't run. Like, uh, I think

1259
01:10:25.239 --> 01:10:29.479
<v Speaker 1>he talked about Eternal Strands. Is that great one deck?

1260
01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Like there's it. You know, there's games that are great

1261
01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:36.760
<v Speaker 1>for Steam Deck, and there's games that like, yo, you

1262
01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:38.520
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be able to run it, but it's not

1263
01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:44.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna be amazing because it's just too difficult for the Steam.

1264
01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Too demanding or you know, the scheme. Even when the

1265
01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:50.079
<v Speaker 2>seam that came out, it wasn't like the pinnacle of technology,

1266
01:10:50.600 --> 01:10:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, I.

1267
01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Mean that's the thing is Like I think they also,

1268
01:10:54.439 --> 01:10:57.520
<v Speaker 1>like they mentioned it during this like they're actually very

1269
01:10:57.600 --> 01:11:01.039
<v Speaker 1>similar to the Xbox Series S specs. Yeah, so it's

1270
01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:04.720
<v Speaker 1>like if the seriess had problems running stuff, do you

1271
01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:06.840
<v Speaker 1>think that the Steam Deck's going to be able to

1272
01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:07.960
<v Speaker 1>run that?

1273
01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1274
01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Like, you know, I'm pretty sure Series S is gonna

1275
01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:14.399
<v Speaker 1>have a problem running this game if it ever shows

1276
01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:15.640
<v Speaker 1>up on Xbox, right, like.

1277
01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Right, well, it'll be like the seven to twenty t

1278
01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:22.199
<v Speaker 2>version or like Tenny you know, like right, but it's

1279
01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:24.520
<v Speaker 2>just like really baffling, like who has an axe to

1280
01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:28.520
<v Speaker 2>grind it at the editorial board for PC Gamer, it's

1281
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:29.800
<v Speaker 2>like a life.

1282
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it feels like, you know, maybe they didn't. I

1283
01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:38.199
<v Speaker 1>don't know if they necessarily. I'm sure that they do

1284
01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:40.920
<v Speaker 1>their research people that they bring on as a freelancer

1285
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:44.039
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, like what are you respecting your PC? But like,

1286
01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:47.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe because they thought, Okay, well, this

1287
01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:50.000
<v Speaker 1>game's old, like people already played it on PS five,

1288
01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:51.640
<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't really matter. We don't have to be

1289
01:11:51.720 --> 01:11:54.239
<v Speaker 1>running it at the you know, a forty with a

1290
01:11:54.319 --> 01:11:57.159
<v Speaker 1>forty ninety or you know, all that stuff to view it.

1291
01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:01.479
<v Speaker 2>I would say forgetting you know, well I forget if

1292
01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:04.239
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get rebirth or you know, remake. Obviously, like

1293
01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:07.000
<v Speaker 2>you need a powerful machine to run it, Like, right,

1294
01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:10.159
<v Speaker 2>let's not play around here, guys, like you know, yeah,

1295
01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:14.079
<v Speaker 2>definitely a five dollars computer to run it or anything

1296
01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:16.000
<v Speaker 2>like that. But you need a decent computer.

1297
01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:18.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a reason why it looks so much

1298
01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:20.920
<v Speaker 1>better on the five pro right.

1299
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Right, So so yeah, I like it quite a bit.

1300
01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:26.960
<v Speaker 2>The only the only thing I kind of wish you

1301
01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:29.960
<v Speaker 2>did have. I wish it had a benchmark because you

1302
01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:32.640
<v Speaker 2>just have a decent autographical options and having something like

1303
01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:38.600
<v Speaker 2>test it out would be actually helpful because fifteen had that, Uh,

1304
01:12:39.079 --> 01:12:40.119
<v Speaker 2>but these later ones don't.

1305
01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of fifteen, you brought that up. This Rebirth apparently

1306
01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:48.960
<v Speaker 1>has the highest concurrence of any single player fantasy game ever.

1307
01:12:49.239 --> 01:12:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, PC, that's what happens when you launch it on Steam,

1308
01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:54.039
<v Speaker 2>you know as well?

1309
01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's true, right, that you don't have the stupid epic.

1310
01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the remake would have done the those numbers,

1311
01:13:02.039 --> 01:13:05.399
<v Speaker 1>but you know it probably would have done something similar,

1312
01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Like I think it would be a lot higher on

1313
01:13:07.359 --> 01:13:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the list, right had it come out instead of being

1314
01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:11.319
<v Speaker 1>a year later.

1315
01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:14.399
<v Speaker 2>Speaking speaking of that, I had a hat because I

1316
01:13:14.439 --> 01:13:17.720
<v Speaker 2>don't have remake on PC. Yeah, but I still wanted

1317
01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:22.760
<v Speaker 2>that fucking material, the import your save material. Yeah, so

1318
01:13:22.800 --> 01:13:25.800
<v Speaker 2>I had to download a save like from remake and

1319
01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:31.199
<v Speaker 2>then like hacking into Rebirth like find your Steam I

1320
01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:33.640
<v Speaker 2>D and then create a folder and then put the

1321
01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:37.039
<v Speaker 2>save in there. And the other nice thing about the

1322
01:13:37.079 --> 01:13:40.720
<v Speaker 2>PC version, uh, you know that one of my complaints

1323
01:13:40.720 --> 01:13:43.439
<v Speaker 2>about the game initially was like the fire ice material

1324
01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:46.319
<v Speaker 2>you can only get one, or like the wind thunder

1325
01:13:47.359 --> 01:13:48.880
<v Speaker 2>or like like new material you can only get one

1326
01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:51.159
<v Speaker 2>per game, not anymore.

1327
01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:54.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, is it because of a mod or something.

1328
01:13:55.079 --> 01:13:57.079
<v Speaker 2>I just had Cheat Engine and it has a material

1329
01:13:57.399 --> 01:14:00.560
<v Speaker 2>material editor, so you can change material into whatever you want.

1330
01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:04.479
<v Speaker 2>So I have like you can do that and then

1331
01:14:04.520 --> 01:14:07.640
<v Speaker 2>you can like max it out. Yeah, so I'm trying

1332
01:14:07.680 --> 01:14:09.560
<v Speaker 2>not to like abuse it too much, but it's like, yep,

1333
01:14:10.119 --> 01:14:12.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna give everyone one fire ice and one

1334
01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:14.399
<v Speaker 2>wind thunder and let him go.

1335
01:14:15.479 --> 01:14:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Make the game a lot easier for sure.

1336
01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I really hated the material juggling in the

1337
01:14:20.439 --> 01:14:21.479
<v Speaker 2>in Rebirth, you know.

1338
01:14:22.039 --> 01:14:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was annoying. Not gonna be definitely that. It

1339
01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:28.239
<v Speaker 1>would have been so nice to have like a auto

1340
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:34.119
<v Speaker 1>remove and like just have different slot like a set.

1341
01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:37.359
<v Speaker 2>That you yeah, like set a set B or like

1342
01:14:37.439 --> 01:14:39.680
<v Speaker 2>when when they separate your party. So it's like, oh,

1343
01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:43.479
<v Speaker 2>now I'm controlling Barrett and Red thirteen to this fucking cave.

1344
01:14:43.640 --> 01:14:47.399
<v Speaker 2>It's like, Okay, put the assessed materia on Barrett, you know,

1345
01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:50.199
<v Speaker 2>put the heel materia on the dow or the cat,

1346
01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:54.159
<v Speaker 2>you know. But I didn't. I obviously didn't finish in

1347
01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:56.399
<v Speaker 2>the game or anything, but I got I'm in like

1348
01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:00.279
<v Speaker 2>the end of the June on region ah, and yeah,

1349
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:02.640
<v Speaker 2>that game really still holds up. I mean I think

1350
01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:05.640
<v Speaker 2>it's better on PC than five. So that's how I

1351
01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:06.479
<v Speaker 2>gave it a higher score.

1352
01:15:07.359 --> 01:15:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fair enough, that makes sense. Yeah, so I mean

1353
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll go ahead.

1354
01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:15.159
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, No, I bought a copy of a star os

1355
01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:15.840
<v Speaker 2>and for PS one.

1356
01:15:17.039 --> 01:15:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Nice.

1357
01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's getting cheap, so are right? Screw it as well.

1358
01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Also, before we get off the Final Fantasy remake train,

1359
01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:32.800
<v Speaker 1>there was a story this week from Hamagucci Son where

1360
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:37.880
<v Speaker 1>he talks about two things. One that people misconstrued his

1361
01:15:38.199 --> 01:15:41.560
<v Speaker 1>quote about the mini game. He says they're not going

1362
01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:44.039
<v Speaker 1>to remove the amount of mini games. He's just going

1363
01:15:44.199 --> 01:15:47.840
<v Speaker 1>to change the way that you have to do them

1364
01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:51.239
<v Speaker 1>in the game, whereas probably more of going to make

1365
01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:54.359
<v Speaker 1>them more optional than they are, but that they're still

1366
01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:55.359
<v Speaker 1>going to be a huge amount.

1367
01:15:55.800 --> 01:15:59.399
<v Speaker 2>That's bad, I think because it's a just have like

1368
01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:03.079
<v Speaker 2>ten good mini games, not twenty, and half of them

1369
01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:04.680
<v Speaker 2>are like mediocre to battle well.

1370
01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:06.600
<v Speaker 1>But if you don't have to do most of them,

1371
01:16:07.039 --> 01:16:08.680
<v Speaker 1>then why does it matter that it's there for.

1372
01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:12.439
<v Speaker 2>Your Well, I'm sure it'll still cont to some progress

1373
01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:13.920
<v Speaker 2>in the game somewhere.

1374
01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Like that fucking I mean, he also mentioned that they're

1375
01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:18.479
<v Speaker 1>definitely gonna make the Platinum O but.

1376
01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Well and not even that, remember that getting the seven

1377
01:16:21.119 --> 01:16:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Star Hotel. Yes, all the arcane shit you had to

1378
01:16:25.800 --> 01:16:29.399
<v Speaker 2>do for that, it's oh my god. But also why

1379
01:16:30.119 --> 01:16:33.159
<v Speaker 2>why have it at all? Like it's just resources that

1380
01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:35.960
<v Speaker 2>like you don't need it, Like it's just you don't

1381
01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:38.239
<v Speaker 2>need to spend the resources on this crap, like may

1382
01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:40.960
<v Speaker 2>either make the overall game better or make like the

1383
01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:43.479
<v Speaker 2>ten mini games that are in the game better. Don't

1384
01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:45.159
<v Speaker 2>have you know, well, I.

1385
01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Mean, if they want to try to do the original

1386
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:51.479
<v Speaker 1>Justice and have all the minigames, then that makes sense, right, like.

1387
01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, like the Red thirteen Rocket League.

1388
01:16:53.640 --> 01:17:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Thing, not that Rocket League bullshit. But like, look, they

1389
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:03.239
<v Speaker 1>obviously made ones up that weren't in the original and

1390
01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:05.079
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff just to add more, and that's fine,

1391
01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Like look, I just think that they shouldn't have been

1392
01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:12.199
<v Speaker 1>they should have been more. Made it more obvious that

1393
01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:14.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them were optional, which that was a problem,

1394
01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Like nobody knew unless you purposely failed that you could

1395
01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:24.760
<v Speaker 1>fail out of the what's it called? Why can't I

1396
01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:28.760
<v Speaker 1>think the card game Queen's Blood the Queen's Blood Tournament

1397
01:17:28.840 --> 01:17:34.439
<v Speaker 1>on the ship until you know it's like, oh, you

1398
01:17:34.560 --> 01:17:37.439
<v Speaker 1>have to like go into a corner and select that

1399
01:17:37.479 --> 01:17:38.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be in it, and then you

1400
01:17:38.840 --> 01:17:40.800
<v Speaker 1>don't realize that, oh, it doesn't really do anything. You

1401
01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:43.680
<v Speaker 1>don't miss anything if you don't do it, other than

1402
01:17:44.079 --> 01:17:48.319
<v Speaker 1>I think you would probably miss the Red thirteen thing.

1403
01:17:49.119 --> 01:17:52.359
<v Speaker 1>So it's like yeah, yeah, and the trophy, right, the

1404
01:17:52.439 --> 01:17:56.039
<v Speaker 1>trophy of doing all the Queen's Blood stuff, so you know,

1405
01:17:56.479 --> 01:17:58.279
<v Speaker 1>but that's it. I mean, that's a whole story line

1406
01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:00.520
<v Speaker 1>that they did with Queen's Blood and and that makes

1407
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:03.760
<v Speaker 1>sense of its own accord. But the other one that

1408
01:18:05.279 --> 01:18:09.680
<v Speaker 1>was kind of making the rounds more to because of

1409
01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:12.439
<v Speaker 1>their strategy now very similar to xboxes if they wanted

1410
01:18:12.439 --> 01:18:15.319
<v Speaker 1>to do everything multi platform. They don't want to be

1411
01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:18.520
<v Speaker 1>exclusive to only Sony Systems because they want to make

1412
01:18:18.600 --> 01:18:21.159
<v Speaker 1>the most money possible. But they're a third party that

1413
01:18:21.239 --> 01:18:26.760
<v Speaker 1>makes more sense, right. Apparently they're kind of letting you

1414
01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:30.840
<v Speaker 1>know that for sure FOM Fantasy seven Part three is

1415
01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:33.199
<v Speaker 1>going to come out to four the PS six because

1416
01:18:33.239 --> 01:18:37.279
<v Speaker 1>it will not be a PS six exclusive. Probably more

1417
01:18:37.479 --> 01:18:39.560
<v Speaker 1>likely that it's saying that it will come out on

1418
01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:40.239
<v Speaker 1>PS five.

1419
01:18:40.399 --> 01:18:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Also, No, it's maybe like Appress of the Wild where

1420
01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:44.279
<v Speaker 2>it's on going.

1421
01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:47.840
<v Speaker 1>And I honestly still think that it's coming out twenty

1422
01:18:47.880 --> 01:18:51.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, the whatever year anniversary of FAM Fantasy seven,

1423
01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:54.239
<v Speaker 1>that is what thirtieth year anniversary. I still think that

1424
01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:55.960
<v Speaker 1>they're aiming for that, and I don't think we're gonna

1425
01:18:55.960 --> 01:18:59.520
<v Speaker 1>get the PlayStation six by then, unless.

1426
01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could see PS six come out like twenty

1427
01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:04.560
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight, possibly that was the.

1428
01:19:04.680 --> 01:19:07.439
<v Speaker 1>Idea originally, or I could see it come like late

1429
01:19:07.600 --> 01:19:10.119
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty seven, like after the game has already come out,

1430
01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and then they they have a super like the Luxe.

1431
01:19:14.039 --> 01:19:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was just gonna say, they're gonna have some

1432
01:19:16.279 --> 01:19:19.720
<v Speaker 2>three three game collector's edition or it comes to the

1433
01:19:19.800 --> 01:19:23.520
<v Speaker 2>life size suffer Us statue and yeah, with ten thousand dollars.

1434
01:19:24.359 --> 01:19:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then like, oh it'll all look pretty because

1435
01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:29.640
<v Speaker 1>now it'll be this is for PS six graphics or

1436
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:32.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, right then you can buy it all over again.

1437
01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, speaking of that, my roommate got a PS

1438
01:19:36.760 --> 01:19:42.119
<v Speaker 2>five pro. Oh yeah, but so he's his room is

1439
01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:45.319
<v Speaker 2>like twenty feet away, twenty five feet away from where

1440
01:19:45.560 --> 01:19:47.680
<v Speaker 2>my room is and where the router is because it's

1441
01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:50.840
<v Speaker 2>in my room. He can't access to five G network.

1442
01:19:51.279 --> 01:19:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, it's like doesn't even like show up on

1443
01:19:56.399 --> 01:19:58.720
<v Speaker 2>like his you know list available networks. And you think

1444
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:02.159
<v Speaker 2>it's because he's right above of my downstairs neighbors modem

1445
01:20:02.680 --> 01:20:06.439
<v Speaker 2>or her like wi fi source. So it's like so strong.

1446
01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:10.359
<v Speaker 1>It's we tried like connecting it wired or something just

1447
01:20:10.439 --> 01:20:11.399
<v Speaker 1>to see if it will.

1448
01:20:12.039 --> 01:20:14.359
<v Speaker 2>No, can he bring his console in her, you know,

1449
01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:17.119
<v Speaker 2>but but I'm connected to do it. I'm trying to

1450
01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:20.359
<v Speaker 2>do it via the wired but like I tried to,

1451
01:20:20.439 --> 01:20:22.479
<v Speaker 2>like look for the Wi fi that work. I can

1452
01:20:22.520 --> 01:20:23.119
<v Speaker 2>see just time.

1453
01:20:23.720 --> 01:20:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's not that they find out doesn't exist.

1454
01:20:26.479 --> 01:20:31.640
<v Speaker 1>It's that like his five pro camp yep. But yeah,

1455
01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:34.600
<v Speaker 1>so you know, at least that's some good news that

1456
01:20:35.159 --> 01:20:36.920
<v Speaker 1>for sure it's coming to PS five. Some people that

1457
01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:39.279
<v Speaker 1>own PS fives that maybe don't want to rush out

1458
01:20:39.319 --> 01:20:43.439
<v Speaker 1>of buy the PlayStation six or can't depending on how

1459
01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:47.880
<v Speaker 1>much how pricey it is, be rust assured that she'll

1460
01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:49.760
<v Speaker 1>be able to play the whole thing on PS five,

1461
01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Which that's good because I think we'll see what wanted

1462
01:20:52.239 --> 01:20:58.359
<v Speaker 1>to be able to do that right important, Yeah, exactly

1463
01:20:58.399 --> 01:21:00.560
<v Speaker 1>all those things on for and everything. I mean, that's

1464
01:21:00.600 --> 01:21:02.359
<v Speaker 1>what I care about. I wanted to be able to

1465
01:21:02.399 --> 01:21:04.279
<v Speaker 1>be played on the system. I own the PS five

1466
01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:08.159
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully it will run well on the five, and

1467
01:21:08.199 --> 01:21:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to feel like I have to buy

1468
01:21:09.720 --> 01:21:10.439
<v Speaker 1>PSI Pro.

1469
01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Whatever when when it comes down on the switch to you've.

1470
01:21:13.520 --> 01:21:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Been on there as well, you know what, I'll buy

1471
01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:21.560
<v Speaker 1>it on Xbox. You want to, It's no, I'm no.

1472
01:21:22.359 --> 01:21:25.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to rebuy too many things. It's like

1473
01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:29.840
<v Speaker 1>these games are way too expensive already rebuying games that much.

1474
01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:35.359
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so there's your full fantasy. Uh part three

1475
01:21:35.800 --> 01:21:38.840
<v Speaker 1>news for this week. We'll see what quote they have

1476
01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Hamaguchi or kit say next next week. I feel like

1477
01:21:43.319 --> 01:21:48.279
<v Speaker 1>they have constantly talking about something really quick to find

1478
01:21:48.399 --> 01:21:55.279
<v Speaker 1>the end the PlayStation. Uh stuff here President Evil movies. Uh,

1479
01:21:56.399 --> 01:22:00.960
<v Speaker 1>it's getting a reboot again. Not surprising. I mean, Resident

1480
01:22:01.319 --> 01:22:08.079
<v Speaker 1>was resid was that its highest peak. It's been as

1481
01:22:08.119 --> 01:22:10.720
<v Speaker 1>far as the series of franchise that people are really

1482
01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:14.119
<v Speaker 1>enjoying and liking the remakes and the you know, whenever

1483
01:22:14.199 --> 01:22:17.159
<v Speaker 1>we get Resident Evil nine, rumors are that the next

1484
01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:22.279
<v Speaker 1>remake is going to be Resident Evil zero apparently, which,

1485
01:22:22.640 --> 01:22:25.399
<v Speaker 1>to be fair, it really does need that it has

1486
01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:31.159
<v Speaker 1>the terrible take controls whatever. Well, you know, you know

1487
01:22:31.199 --> 01:22:33.199
<v Speaker 1>how they do with I feel like Cover is gonna

1488
01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:36.960
<v Speaker 1>be like the last one. And also Residuevil six got

1489
01:22:37.039 --> 01:22:41.720
<v Speaker 1>like rated for series X and PS five apparently, but

1490
01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:45.319
<v Speaker 1>that's supposed to be like a port not necessarily the remake.

1491
01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:50.680
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, but okay, yes, like Mark said,

1492
01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:52.680
<v Speaker 1>this is the this would be the third goal around

1493
01:22:52.840 --> 01:22:56.760
<v Speaker 1>with with the Residueval movies. According to the Hollywood Reporter,

1494
01:22:57.720 --> 01:23:02.319
<v Speaker 1>uh this is the next uh Bustation Studios movie thing,

1495
01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:05.560
<v Speaker 1>but there are also other studios that that are bidding

1496
01:23:05.680 --> 01:23:11.359
<v Speaker 1>for the movie, including Winner Brothers and Netflix. Constantines owned

1497
01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:18.079
<v Speaker 1>the rights to it until recently, and you know, they

1498
01:23:18.159 --> 01:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>did try to bring it back with that Welcome to

1499
01:23:19.920 --> 01:23:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Raccoon City, which was fine. It's just wasn't super.

1500
01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Low budgeting, yeah, but a still budget and the story

1501
01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:29.119
<v Speaker 2>was just kind of all over the place. And it

1502
01:23:29.239 --> 01:23:33.479
<v Speaker 2>had bad casting. Yes, that some bad casting. I actually

1503
01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:36.560
<v Speaker 2>do like. I like the chicks they had playing Jill

1504
01:23:36.680 --> 01:23:37.159
<v Speaker 2>and Claire.

1505
01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Agree.

1506
01:23:38.840 --> 01:23:44.479
<v Speaker 2>Claire was really good, yeah, Kaya I think is her name? Yes,

1507
01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Chris was okay, but like the guy they had Landa

1508
01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:49.039
<v Speaker 2>was like terrible. Yeah.

1509
01:23:50.319 --> 01:23:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Uh but yeah, we'll see what that is. Are they

1510
01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:56.960
<v Speaker 1>going to try to make it more like the game,

1511
01:23:57.159 --> 01:23:58.920
<v Speaker 1>so they're going to do their own thing. Is it

1512
01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:01.439
<v Speaker 1>going to have anything to do with like is it

1513
01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:03.439
<v Speaker 1>Are they going to try to start with residue but one?

1514
01:24:03.800 --> 01:24:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Or are they going to do the the Djoeovic thing

1515
01:24:07.039 --> 01:24:08.600
<v Speaker 1>of just oh this is going to be its own

1516
01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:11.119
<v Speaker 1>thing and have nothing to do following the TV show.

1517
01:24:11.880 --> 01:24:14.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it always works well when when they do their

1518
01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:14.920
<v Speaker 2>own thing.

1519
01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:19.520
<v Speaker 1>That was something I mean, like I wanted to like that.

1520
01:24:20.319 --> 01:24:22.520
<v Speaker 2>The bummer about that show is like that's like the

1521
01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:23.760
<v Speaker 2>last thing answer it was in.

1522
01:24:24.279 --> 01:24:27.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, because of answer, I wanted to like it

1523
01:24:27.279 --> 01:24:31.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot. That's that's what happened, all right.

1524
01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Uh, they sign for the movie is coming like two

1525
01:24:36.159 --> 01:24:40.279
<v Speaker 2>years from now, I mean it's coming out now.

1526
01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:44.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I mean that's good.

1527
01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:47.600
<v Speaker 2>The plot is supposed to be some like multi versus

1528
01:24:47.720 --> 01:24:52.079
<v Speaker 2>thing different, you know, universes.

1529
01:24:52.600 --> 01:24:54.279
<v Speaker 1>We're finally gonna get the big bid.

1530
01:24:54.239 --> 01:24:57.119
<v Speaker 2>The cat, right, it'll be the bad guy of it all.

1531
01:24:59.640 --> 01:25:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I think the rest of the stuff we can start

1532
01:25:01.720 --> 01:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>just doing the quickets part here. Oh boy. Uh, not

1533
01:25:07.199 --> 01:25:12.039
<v Speaker 1>surprised at all with all of this terrible news about Ubisoft. Uh,

1534
01:25:12.239 --> 01:25:15.199
<v Speaker 1>they have laid off one hundred and eighty five employees

1535
01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:21.279
<v Speaker 1>and also closed Ubisoft Learnington, which was the previous Freestyle Games,

1536
01:25:21.319 --> 01:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>which was the DJ Hero. Developer loved dj Hero when

1537
01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:30.119
<v Speaker 1>it was the first one. They they made some creative

1538
01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:37.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff with from Freestyle Games. Unfortunate that they bought it

1539
01:25:38.359 --> 01:25:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and then now that studio is closing and all these

1540
01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:42.439
<v Speaker 1>people are losing their jobs.

1541
01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:44.319
<v Speaker 2>So they bought it and then didn't be shipped with

1542
01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:47.279
<v Speaker 2>it except for like support video for Colon Bones and.

1543
01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Great, they're restructuring Ubisoft Dusseldorf, stock Holm and Reflections along

1544
01:25:56.720 --> 01:25:57.199
<v Speaker 1>with closing.

1545
01:25:57.279 --> 01:26:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Why why did they even have studios in Duseldorf put the.

1546
01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Way, too many freaking studios for one.

1547
01:26:07.680 --> 01:26:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have only satellite support studios or satellite studios.

1548
01:26:10.880 --> 01:26:13.399
<v Speaker 2>It's like no wonder, like you can barely make a

1549
01:26:13.479 --> 01:26:16.159
<v Speaker 2>game or you know, it's such a schizophrenic mess most

1550
01:26:16.199 --> 01:26:17.119
<v Speaker 2>of the time nowadays.

1551
01:26:17.840 --> 01:26:20.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess it helps them not have to

1552
01:26:20.159 --> 01:26:23.680
<v Speaker 1>go use contractors. But it's just like, my lord, I

1553
01:26:23.720 --> 01:26:25.960
<v Speaker 1>mean the studios, do you need.

1554
01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Big companies use contractors. It's like a contractor is good

1555
01:26:31.239 --> 01:26:33.560
<v Speaker 2>because you don't have to keep paying those people money

1556
01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:36.319
<v Speaker 2>after the fact they do six months or a year

1557
01:26:36.439 --> 01:26:39.319
<v Speaker 2>or two years and then move on you and then

1558
01:26:39.439 --> 01:26:43.920
<v Speaker 2>move on. We saw Duseldorf, you know, to support the

1559
01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:47.079
<v Speaker 2>twenty people that work in that country, you know that

1560
01:26:47.239 --> 01:26:49.960
<v Speaker 2>city for you like it's uh.

1561
01:26:50.039 --> 01:26:53.479
<v Speaker 1>They were also support on Avatar and Park five. But

1562
01:26:54.359 --> 01:26:58.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, listen, it sucks for these people losing their jawses.

1563
01:26:58.600 --> 01:27:01.439
<v Speaker 1>I always say every time we have to talk about layoffs,

1564
01:27:03.319 --> 01:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>it's just you yourself just continues to have bad pre

1565
01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:14.039
<v Speaker 1>us even with the sort of mostly positive usage creed

1566
01:27:14.159 --> 01:27:21.439
<v Speaker 1>shadows previews. Okay, uh, outside of some outliers like I

1567
01:27:21.479 --> 01:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>think the skill Up didn't like it necessarily, but most

1568
01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:30.079
<v Speaker 1>people the leading deal is that apparently Norway, I think

1569
01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:33.479
<v Speaker 1>your name is she plays like the Assassin that you

1570
01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:39.359
<v Speaker 1>would expect, whereas Yaske is like the brute and he

1571
01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:43.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have the skill, the the parkour and stuff, which

1572
01:27:44.239 --> 01:27:45.239
<v Speaker 1>bothers a lot of people.

1573
01:27:45.319 --> 01:27:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Apparently it's a bit like how Assassin's Screed Syndicate was.

1574
01:27:49.680 --> 01:27:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they did to kind of play this play

1575
01:27:52.439 --> 01:27:55.800
<v Speaker 2>the same, but like the brother of them was was

1576
01:27:55.920 --> 01:27:59.920
<v Speaker 2>more of the brute, slash like beat like brawler care

1577
01:28:00.199 --> 01:28:02.640
<v Speaker 2>or and the sister was like the actual assassin.

1578
01:28:03.119 --> 01:28:08.239
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, man, it's it's uh, it feels like that's

1579
01:28:08.279 --> 01:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>the thing is like a lot of people were like,

1580
01:28:09.880 --> 01:28:12.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, the the OSC gameplay was one of the

1581
01:28:12.479 --> 01:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>things that they were supposed to be working on this

1582
01:28:14.159 --> 01:28:17.079
<v Speaker 1>time that they're delaying, but as they definitely did try

1583
01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:20.479
<v Speaker 1>to make them different. There's just see people that have

1584
01:28:20.600 --> 01:28:24.039
<v Speaker 1>problems with the fact that essentially, like like, nobody asked

1585
01:28:24.079 --> 01:28:26.119
<v Speaker 1>to be able to play with a character like that,

1586
01:28:27.880 --> 01:28:31.319
<v Speaker 1>and you gave that to us, and it's like then

1587
01:28:31.399 --> 01:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>you add in all the other the grifter stuff or

1588
01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>the stuff about not Kurt you know, curcially accurate or

1589
01:28:36.800 --> 01:28:37.399
<v Speaker 1>whatever the hell.

1590
01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:43.279
<v Speaker 2>And I've been I've been really enjoying, uh, the Asthma

1591
01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:46.439
<v Speaker 2>Gold videos on this thing, because he makes a video

1592
01:28:46.439 --> 01:28:49.279
<v Speaker 2>about shadows every two days. He's pitching and moaning about

1593
01:28:49.279 --> 01:28:52.520
<v Speaker 2>it constantly, and it's like, dude, you haven't even played

1594
01:28:52.520 --> 01:28:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Assassins Creed before, Like why do you have fourteen videos

1595
01:28:56.119 --> 01:28:56.800
<v Speaker 2>on this bullshit?

1596
01:28:57.199 --> 01:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Because he's the number one grifter dude, Yeah, like you

1597
01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>don't care about at all, So like that he just

1598
01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:06.439
<v Speaker 1>starts to find anything negative that he can make a

1599
01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Video one and obviously it.

1600
01:29:07.840 --> 01:29:10.479
<v Speaker 2>Works, right, there are some points like not about this game.

1601
01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:13.439
<v Speaker 2>Obviously there are some points out ideas and what's about

1602
01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:16.680
<v Speaker 2>specific other games, but like this game, it's like living

1603
01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:18.920
<v Speaker 2>rent free in his head and it's like, dude, like

1604
01:29:19.239 --> 01:29:20.319
<v Speaker 2>get a life or.

1605
01:29:20.479 --> 01:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, do something else, man, find something else to

1606
01:29:25.319 --> 01:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>go hate on. Yeah, But aside from that, it's just

1607
01:29:29.880 --> 01:29:33.840
<v Speaker 1>like it's continued to be negative for this team, and man,

1608
01:29:33.960 --> 01:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>if Shadows does not hit targets, right, man, I hate

1609
01:29:40.960 --> 01:29:44.039
<v Speaker 1>to think about what what other heads are going to

1610
01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>roll figuratively, not the one that matterstunately exactly. Unfortunately, the

1611
01:29:50.039 --> 01:29:53.399
<v Speaker 1>one that matters, that should be stepping down or taking

1612
01:29:53.439 --> 01:29:56.399
<v Speaker 1>a pay cut or doing something starts with a why

1613
01:29:57.359 --> 01:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not doing it. And it's very sad that he

1614
01:30:01.720 --> 01:30:05.399
<v Speaker 1>continues to be able to just be there trying to

1615
01:30:05.520 --> 01:30:08.199
<v Speaker 1>set some kind of thing we talked about last week,

1616
01:30:08.600 --> 01:30:13.199
<v Speaker 1>and somehow somebody doesn't try to do something but remove

1617
01:30:13.279 --> 01:30:19.159
<v Speaker 1>these Yeah, speaking of not hitting targets, unfortunately for Dragon Age,

1618
01:30:19.239 --> 01:30:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Vilguard did not hit sell targets to the fact that

1619
01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>EA is pulling a Microsoft and not even talking about

1620
01:30:28.079 --> 01:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>sales numbers. They are talking about one point five million

1621
01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:33.279
<v Speaker 1>people interacted with.

1622
01:30:33.399 --> 01:30:36.520
<v Speaker 2>The game from demo and.

1623
01:30:38.920 --> 01:30:41.479
<v Speaker 1>Not just the demo. It's they bought it through EA

1624
01:30:41.680 --> 01:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>play right or did the trial and then continue playing.

1625
01:30:48.439 --> 01:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>And of course, you know, the writing didn't help the

1626
01:30:52.800 --> 01:30:58.039
<v Speaker 1>story around. It didn't help about the all the different

1627
01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:04.279
<v Speaker 1>gender bending and all this stuff, storylines and whatever. The

1628
01:31:04.479 --> 01:31:14.039
<v Speaker 1>creative director, the game's director, corn Bert Bush left, She said,

1629
01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:16.239
<v Speaker 1>apparently she got an offer she couldn't turn down at

1630
01:31:16.279 --> 01:31:21.600
<v Speaker 1>another c RPG studio or making another CRPG, but she

1631
01:31:21.840 --> 01:31:23.319
<v Speaker 1>was happy with what she did at Viral, where she

1632
01:31:23.399 --> 01:31:27.279
<v Speaker 1>brought him back to I guess some semblance of riding

1633
01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:30.239
<v Speaker 1>the ship as she called it, apparently acquented to EA.

1634
01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>This was not writing the ship. It seemed like it

1635
01:31:34.840 --> 01:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>was doing well, right, like it was on the charts

1636
01:31:37.920 --> 01:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>for October and November and then nada, right, and that

1637
01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:47.600
<v Speaker 1>it just sucks. I hate that for the team. I

1638
01:31:47.680 --> 01:31:50.279
<v Speaker 1>hate that for the teams, but you.

1639
01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Know, I dislike it. But on the flip side, did

1640
01:31:54.840 --> 01:31:58.079
<v Speaker 2>you know about Unknown nine, that that disaster.

1641
01:31:58.479 --> 01:32:03.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Vanaamco, Yeah that, like they.

1642
01:32:02.960 --> 01:32:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Should have known better. But also like the fact that

1643
01:32:05.319 --> 01:32:09.640
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to build this like whole big multimedia cluster.

1644
01:32:09.720 --> 01:32:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Fucktastic roadmap thing when it's like this is an unknown

1645
01:32:13.399 --> 01:32:17.279
<v Speaker 2>proper like an unknown property, slower role a little.

1646
01:32:19.159 --> 01:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, we got we.

1647
01:32:22.039 --> 01:32:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Got comics, we got new we got novels, we got podcasts,

1648
01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:28.680
<v Speaker 2>and yo, put it a good game first, then then

1649
01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:31.640
<v Speaker 2>deal with this like if it hits then that's cool.

1650
01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:37.479
<v Speaker 1>But like no, no, it's like I just it sucks

1651
01:32:37.520 --> 01:32:40.119
<v Speaker 1>for dragon Age, for the people that made dragon Age,

1652
01:32:40.399 --> 01:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>like you know, it was apparently it was a good game,

1653
01:32:43.960 --> 01:32:48.359
<v Speaker 1>just wasn't a great dragon Age. And then also it

1654
01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:51.199
<v Speaker 1>started as a lot of service game and then uh

1655
01:32:51.359 --> 01:32:56.079
<v Speaker 1>she apparently saved it from or kind of helped mold

1656
01:32:56.159 --> 01:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>it into what it became, like the hybrid, right, a

1657
01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of people they didn't like that the the worlds

1658
01:33:03.520 --> 01:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>weren't big enough and the mission structure wasn't great. Stuff

1659
01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>like that.

1660
01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:12.119
<v Speaker 2>I really think. Well. I saw also the rumors that

1661
01:33:12.279 --> 01:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>like you know, EA is gon to close a bio

1662
01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:17.439
<v Speaker 2>where Edmonton office and yeah, it's not gonna happen, like

1663
01:33:17.439 --> 01:33:20.319
<v Speaker 2>it's not yet, but no, it just puts more and

1664
01:33:20.359 --> 01:33:21.640
<v Speaker 2>more pressure on mass effects. Five.

1665
01:33:22.159 --> 01:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>And definitely I've seen a lot I've seen some people

1666
01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>say that like either let them change their name or

1667
01:33:29.199 --> 01:33:32.279
<v Speaker 1>maybe even get to the point of closing biowhere because

1668
01:33:32.960 --> 01:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>they're not the same people anymore. It's like a shell

1669
01:33:37.840 --> 01:33:39.119
<v Speaker 1>of what buyo Where used to be.

1670
01:33:41.319 --> 01:33:43.720
<v Speaker 2>Some QA caster there always been there since the beginning.

1671
01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:47.319
<v Speaker 2>That's about it. I mean like audio engineer or something.

1672
01:33:47.399 --> 01:33:50.520
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, everyone everyone who like made bio where bio

1673
01:33:50.520 --> 01:33:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Where is pretty much gone.

1674
01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I know Platinum's kind of going through

1675
01:33:54.279 --> 01:33:56.359
<v Speaker 1>similar things where a lot of the old guard or

1676
01:33:56.520 --> 01:33:58.079
<v Speaker 1>leaving and things like that.

1677
01:33:59.079 --> 01:34:02.960
<v Speaker 2>The problem with that is the buywhere names at least

1678
01:34:03.039 --> 01:34:03.840
<v Speaker 2>some cache.

1679
01:34:03.600 --> 01:34:07.279
<v Speaker 1>A Yeah, and I think that's why EA can't bring them.

1680
01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's changed like e Edmonton or e A Canada

1681
01:34:10.920 --> 01:34:14.399
<v Speaker 2>or whatever whatever. Remember when they they were so high

1682
01:34:14.439 --> 01:34:16.119
<v Speaker 2>on BioWare They're like ten years ago. They were teaming

1683
01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:20.319
<v Speaker 2>all the studios like Buyowhere, Victory or biowear like for

1684
01:34:20.439 --> 01:34:22.720
<v Speaker 2>like a month and then they reverted back because they're

1685
01:34:22.720 --> 01:34:23.159
<v Speaker 2>like there's.

1686
01:34:22.960 --> 01:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>A dumb like yeah, it's it's just like it's crazy

1687
01:34:27.159 --> 01:34:30.840
<v Speaker 1>how far they have fallen to the point where, like

1688
01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:33.800
<v Speaker 1>you said, there's a lot of pressure now on Mass

1689
01:34:33.920 --> 01:34:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Effect five to deliver I.

1690
01:34:36.199 --> 01:34:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Think if mass efixt five bombs or doesn't do as

1691
01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:42.760
<v Speaker 2>well and let's face it, it probably won't. You know,

1692
01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:46.319
<v Speaker 2>like even like Dead not Dead Island, dead Space that

1693
01:34:46.439 --> 01:34:47.920
<v Speaker 2>was a good game, or you know, and that.

1694
01:34:48.159 --> 01:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Dead Space did pretty well for being a whore game.

1695
01:34:50.640 --> 01:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>It's just they needed to do more than two million.

1696
01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the problem. It's like, even if it did well,

1697
01:34:54.840 --> 01:34:56.960
<v Speaker 2>it's not well enough for EA or didn't do like

1698
01:34:57.439 --> 01:35:00.319
<v Speaker 2>ten million copies. It's like it's not going to same

1699
01:35:00.359 --> 01:35:03.960
<v Speaker 2>with Massive five. Like even if I sold three million copies,

1700
01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:05.640
<v Speaker 2>they probably still look at it as a disappointment.

1701
01:35:07.479 --> 01:35:10.319
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing is they needed I feel it sounds

1702
01:35:10.399 --> 01:35:12.760
<v Speaker 1>like they needed Dragon ahe Vailguart to hit like the

1703
01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:13.479
<v Speaker 1>three million.

1704
01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Well that that was like their estimate or their forecast,

1705
01:35:16.760 --> 01:35:18.399
<v Speaker 2>and so they got like one point five.

1706
01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:21.239
<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, no, no, they didn't sell one. They're

1707
01:35:21.239 --> 01:35:22.079
<v Speaker 1>saying one point.

1708
01:35:23.399 --> 01:35:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Or whatever.

1709
01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:27.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but so I wonder if it even sold a million. Yeah,

1710
01:35:27.239 --> 01:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>like that's kind of right.

1711
01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Hey, when it gets twenty bucks, I'll buy it.

1712
01:35:32.960 --> 01:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean they're also complaining about the A five

1713
01:35:37.680 --> 01:35:40.199
<v Speaker 1>didn't apparently do as well as they needed to, but

1714
01:35:40.279 --> 01:35:43.079
<v Speaker 1>it's still like the fifth best selling game of the

1715
01:35:43.199 --> 01:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>whole entire freaking year.

1716
01:35:44.960 --> 01:35:45.399
<v Speaker 2>But you know.

1717
01:35:46.479 --> 01:35:49.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean they also have on godly expectations for those

1718
01:35:49.159 --> 01:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>sports games to like give them so much money in

1719
01:35:52.079 --> 01:35:55.079
<v Speaker 1>the live service part with the Ultimate Team and stuff that,

1720
01:35:55.319 --> 01:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, I could believe that Apparently it didn't hit

1721
01:35:57.680 --> 01:35:59.760
<v Speaker 1>whatever target, which is ridiculous, you know.

1722
01:36:00.079 --> 01:36:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

1723
01:36:02.039 --> 01:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Also they shut down EA Origin, which just like the

1724
01:36:06.640 --> 01:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>old program, right, which you have to convert to the

1725
01:36:10.079 --> 01:36:12.560
<v Speaker 1>EA app. But apparently if you don't have a sixty

1726
01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>four bit system you cannot use it at all, so uh,

1727
01:36:16.760 --> 01:36:21.479
<v Speaker 1>and which they stopped supporting Windows ten. Uh So the

1728
01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:24.319
<v Speaker 1>only way you can do it is having Windows living

1729
01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:25.520
<v Speaker 1>with a sixty four bit system.

1730
01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1731
01:36:26.279 --> 01:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>So that's the only way that all of your games

1732
01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:31.279
<v Speaker 1>will convert over to the EA app if you only

1733
01:36:31.359 --> 01:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>have you know, them on PC. So yeah, if you

1734
01:36:35.640 --> 01:36:39.680
<v Speaker 1>don't have a upgraded system. And also this includes uh

1735
01:36:40.399 --> 01:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>you have to have like a a big, a newer

1736
01:36:43.640 --> 01:36:48.640
<v Speaker 1>version of Catalina for the Mac part of it. So yeah,

1737
01:36:48.720 --> 01:36:50.600
<v Speaker 1>that sucks if you're kind of like locked out of

1738
01:36:50.640 --> 01:36:52.359
<v Speaker 1>your games because.

1739
01:36:52.079 --> 01:36:56.399
<v Speaker 2>Of that's such a niche market or niche number that

1740
01:36:57.199 --> 01:36:59.439
<v Speaker 2>how many people really only having thirty two bit systems?

1741
01:36:59.680 --> 01:37:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Like no, practically no one unless a twenty year old

1742
01:37:02.760 --> 01:37:03.800
<v Speaker 2>machine right.

1743
01:37:03.920 --> 01:37:07.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, unless you were using it to like

1744
01:37:07.520 --> 01:37:10.720
<v Speaker 1>play like really old games only or something like that,

1745
01:37:11.479 --> 01:37:14.079
<v Speaker 1>right right, So, I mean any of the new stuff

1746
01:37:14.079 --> 01:37:18.279
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't be able to play anyway. But yeah, I

1747
01:37:18.319 --> 01:37:22.119
<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's really quick here. Just because we always

1748
01:37:22.119 --> 01:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>talk about this stuff. Oh well, I shouldn't mention lost records.

1749
01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Bluin Rage got delayed. The second part of it got

1750
01:37:29.359 --> 01:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the lay till April fifteenth to give them time to

1751
01:37:33.439 --> 01:37:36.319
<v Speaker 1>don't nod, you know, to give them time to be

1752
01:37:36.399 --> 01:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>able to get it right. And you know, the games

1753
01:37:39.119 --> 01:37:43.079
<v Speaker 1>set over two timelines. The first part of it's still

1754
01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:47.119
<v Speaker 1>going to come out on time, but apparently this is

1755
01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:50.920
<v Speaker 1>going to get This is the free update that's supposed

1756
01:37:50.920 --> 01:37:53.119
<v Speaker 1>to come later, so they're delaying it so they make

1757
01:37:53.159 --> 01:37:53.720
<v Speaker 1>sure it's good.

1758
01:37:54.359 --> 01:37:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1759
01:37:55.520 --> 01:37:59.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, dough Nuts kind of been kind of doing

1760
01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:03.199
<v Speaker 1>little bit, you know, different things. You know, Jussant was

1761
01:38:03.319 --> 01:38:07.840
<v Speaker 1>well received. It was good Indie that was on game Pass. Yeah.

1762
01:38:07.920 --> 01:38:12.319
<v Speaker 2>I still think their greatest game was Life Is Strange.

1763
01:38:12.760 --> 01:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure.

1764
01:38:14.199 --> 01:38:17.000
<v Speaker 2>That's the problem is they keep making they keep making

1765
01:38:17.039 --> 01:38:21.279
<v Speaker 2>stuff that doesn't really hit that well, and same as

1766
01:38:21.359 --> 01:38:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Life is Strange.

1767
01:38:22.720 --> 01:38:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Now, Life is strange. It is kind of going

1768
01:38:24.880 --> 01:38:27.359
<v Speaker 1>through that with Tech nine, where it's like, Okay, you

1769
01:38:27.439 --> 01:38:29.520
<v Speaker 1>had True Colors that did great, and then it's like.

1770
01:38:30.319 --> 01:38:32.159
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think I didn't think you Color did good though,

1771
01:38:32.239 --> 01:38:32.439
<v Speaker 2>did it?

1772
01:38:33.039 --> 01:38:34.199
<v Speaker 1>True Colors did really well?

1773
01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Wow?

1774
01:38:36.359 --> 01:38:39.119
<v Speaker 1>So and it got all that Game of the Year

1775
01:38:39.279 --> 01:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>stuff from people whatever. So but after that it's kind

1776
01:38:43.319 --> 01:38:46.720
<v Speaker 1>of like they've really like bottomed out on that and

1777
01:38:46.920 --> 01:38:52.279
<v Speaker 1>dough Nod's been really hit and miss on that. US

1778
01:38:52.359 --> 01:38:55.560
<v Speaker 1>physical game spending has gone down significally since two thousand

1779
01:38:55.560 --> 01:38:58.640
<v Speaker 1>and eight, according to Matt Piscatella from Sircana, you know

1780
01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:02.399
<v Speaker 1>he reports on this stuff, saying that essuch of this

1781
01:39:02.600 --> 01:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>got kind of exacerbated by the pandemic because you know,

1782
01:39:07.079 --> 01:39:10.039
<v Speaker 1>we were going to go buy physical copies, and also

1783
01:39:10.079 --> 01:39:13.119
<v Speaker 1>the fact that the Switch has had a really down year,

1784
01:39:13.199 --> 01:39:15.239
<v Speaker 1>which the switch kind of offsets a lot of the

1785
01:39:15.319 --> 01:39:20.680
<v Speaker 1>physical the people buying digital to buy physical, which you know,

1786
01:39:20.760 --> 01:39:26.279
<v Speaker 1>like Nintendo has like a their digital share is lower

1787
01:39:26.319 --> 01:39:28.880
<v Speaker 1>than everybody else's, like theirs is that twenty They have

1788
01:39:28.960 --> 01:39:31.359
<v Speaker 1>a twenty two percent share of people that buy physical,

1789
01:39:33.039 --> 01:39:38.560
<v Speaker 1>whereas everybody else's Xbox PS five went up. Xbox was

1790
01:39:38.800 --> 01:39:42.199
<v Speaker 1>seventy five from seventy PS fives was sixty four from

1791
01:39:42.239 --> 01:39:45.520
<v Speaker 1>fifty five. But Nintendo's is there twenty two. A lot

1792
01:39:45.520 --> 01:39:49.479
<v Speaker 1>of people buy physical for Nintendo, so yeah, maybe the

1793
01:39:49.560 --> 01:39:53.159
<v Speaker 1>switch to will help offset that again, but so far

1794
01:39:53.319 --> 01:39:56.319
<v Speaker 1>we're still leaning towards that of like, people are just

1795
01:39:56.960 --> 01:40:00.479
<v Speaker 1>delving more and more into the convenience, right, it doesn't

1796
01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:02.319
<v Speaker 1>help the PC is basically all digital.

1797
01:40:02.760 --> 01:40:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well like this, I can't remember the last time

1798
01:40:05.840 --> 01:40:08.479
<v Speaker 2>they can't like buy a PC games, you know, digital

1799
01:40:08.680 --> 01:40:12.199
<v Speaker 2>or physically. Yeah, I think like I have apolic fallout

1800
01:40:12.199 --> 01:40:13.239
<v Speaker 2>New Vegas for PC.

1801
01:40:14.159 --> 01:40:17.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean, really, what what laptops or computers

1802
01:40:17.760 --> 01:40:20.800
<v Speaker 1>getting made now unless you order it, specially that have

1803
01:40:20.960 --> 01:40:25.039
<v Speaker 1>a distrib at all. Right, Yeah, so, and I think

1804
01:40:25.159 --> 01:40:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Sony announced that they're not doing like rewriteables anymore either,

1805
01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:30.960
<v Speaker 1>So for blue rays.

1806
01:40:31.560 --> 01:40:34.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did a list a week ago for four

1807
01:40:34.720 --> 01:40:37.199
<v Speaker 2>one about like games I'm looking forward to next this year,

1808
01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:41.359
<v Speaker 2>and like I think I did like eight games. One

1809
01:40:41.399 --> 01:40:42.880
<v Speaker 2>of them is kind of a PC game at Stive

1810
01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:46.439
<v Speaker 2>six or Sive seven. Sorry, but someone in the comments

1811
01:40:46.600 --> 01:40:48.840
<v Speaker 2>is like, how come there's no PC games on here?

1812
01:40:49.239 --> 01:40:52.399
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, yo, dog, like how many PC only

1813
01:40:52.479 --> 01:40:55.560
<v Speaker 2>games are there coming out this year that you know, yeah.

1814
01:40:56.880 --> 01:40:59.119
<v Speaker 1>You would have to go find the indies that don't.

1815
01:40:59.199 --> 01:41:01.199
<v Speaker 1>That always still you see, and they come into the

1816
01:41:01.239 --> 01:41:04.119
<v Speaker 1>consoles later, like all the big games come to PC,

1817
01:41:04.279 --> 01:41:05.520
<v Speaker 1>but they also come to the consoles.

1818
01:41:05.880 --> 01:41:09.039
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, the guy was like, it's mostly console games.

1819
01:41:09.159 --> 01:41:11.039
<v Speaker 2>It's like, hey, that's what I mostly play games on.

1820
01:41:11.239 --> 01:41:14.439
<v Speaker 2>And then d like, yeah, what PC exclusive games are there?

1821
01:41:15.720 --> 01:41:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like, oh, you're gonna the second well, the

1822
01:41:18.560 --> 01:41:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Warcraft Expansion, the whatever. Like it's like you said, it's

1823
01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:28.600
<v Speaker 1>extremely rare that even the even the MMOs like look

1824
01:41:28.640 --> 01:41:32.039
<v Speaker 1>at FOM Fantasy fourteen, like that also comes to PS five,

1825
01:41:32.279 --> 01:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Like uh, look at a look at a lot of

1826
01:41:34.600 --> 01:41:37.479
<v Speaker 1>the like gotcha stuff that usually starts out on mobile

1827
01:41:37.520 --> 01:41:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and PC that also ends up coming to like PS five.

1828
01:41:39.800 --> 01:41:42.439
<v Speaker 2>So it's like or even like you know, Hades two

1829
01:41:42.520 --> 01:41:44.760
<v Speaker 2>is on Hades two is on PC technically right now

1830
01:41:44.800 --> 01:41:47.199
<v Speaker 2>in the early access, but like exactly once it's done,

1831
01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:51.159
<v Speaker 2>you know whatever, Yeah.

1832
01:41:51.319 --> 01:41:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Especially because when it hits switch to that thing's gonna

1833
01:41:54.079 --> 01:41:59.159
<v Speaker 1>sell like crazy. So you know, like, hey, that's where

1834
01:41:59.199 --> 01:42:02.479
<v Speaker 1>the people. Look, I have a new story right here

1835
01:42:02.520 --> 01:42:05.760
<v Speaker 1>that people are making. Developers are making more PC games.

1836
01:42:06.119 --> 01:42:10.079
<v Speaker 1>It actually went out from sixty six percent to eighty percent, Like, yeah,

1837
01:42:10.359 --> 01:42:15.000
<v Speaker 1>PC gaming is going up, Like it's especially with you know,

1838
01:42:15.199 --> 01:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>these forever games, the live service games. Like the the

1839
01:42:20.600 --> 01:42:25.159
<v Speaker 1>kids my daughter's age, you know, thirteen, fourteen and younger,

1840
01:42:25.359 --> 01:42:28.760
<v Speaker 1>they're either asking for the best tablet or the best

1841
01:42:28.840 --> 01:42:33.439
<v Speaker 1>PC because they want to play Fortnite or whatever in

1842
01:42:33.520 --> 01:42:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the best way possible. They're not asking for the console.

1843
01:42:36.520 --> 01:42:39.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's very weird that people are asking for

1844
01:42:40.039 --> 01:42:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Like I think there was a story of like nobody

1845
01:42:41.960 --> 01:42:46.039
<v Speaker 1>cares about the kids don't care about the PSI pros, Like, well, no, dull,

1846
01:42:46.159 --> 01:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>they don't. They don't even have a PS five to

1847
01:42:48.039 --> 01:42:50.199
<v Speaker 1>begin with, so why would they care about the PSI pro.

1848
01:42:50.479 --> 01:42:52.159
<v Speaker 1>And it's like and for one, they can't buy the

1849
01:42:52.239 --> 01:42:53.720
<v Speaker 1>PS five pro, so why the hell are they going

1850
01:42:53.800 --> 01:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>to care about it. It's like when somebody used to

1851
01:42:57.720 --> 01:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>tell us that when you were kids. Uh, I can't

1852
01:43:01.720 --> 01:43:04.119
<v Speaker 1>think of the first time somebody did, like an the

1853
01:43:04.239 --> 01:43:07.039
<v Speaker 1>PS two slim or something like I would hear a

1854
01:43:07.119 --> 01:43:08.439
<v Speaker 1>PS two. What do I give a crap about the

1855
01:43:08.479 --> 01:43:09.159
<v Speaker 1>PS two slim?

1856
01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:16.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like, well, or even versus the nets

1857
01:43:16.199 --> 01:43:17.520
<v Speaker 2>it's like, yeah, like, who cares?

1858
01:43:18.079 --> 01:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Does it play? Does it do anything different?

1859
01:43:19.800 --> 01:43:19.840
<v Speaker 2>No?

1860
01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Then what do I care about it? It's like, uh,

1861
01:43:22.960 --> 01:43:26.159
<v Speaker 1>the PS five Pro does, but again it's negligible as

1862
01:43:26.239 --> 01:43:30.479
<v Speaker 1>far as like, uh, like what it really does compared

1863
01:43:30.520 --> 01:43:32.479
<v Speaker 1>to like the difference you would see like on a PC.

1864
01:43:32.720 --> 01:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>And then not only that, if you don't have the

1865
01:43:34.640 --> 01:43:40.720
<v Speaker 1>TV to make it look nice, it doesn't matter, right exactly.

1866
01:43:41.079 --> 01:43:44.159
<v Speaker 1>That's the point I'm guessing your roommate does, or he

1867
01:43:44.199 --> 01:43:47.720
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have bought. But it's like I do, but I

1868
01:43:47.880 --> 01:43:53.479
<v Speaker 1>just I've seen the difference, and it's like cares right, Like, Uh,

1869
01:43:54.119 --> 01:43:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I played Fantasy and Reworth fine enough. I don't need

1870
01:43:57.840 --> 01:44:01.159
<v Speaker 1>to buy it just to hopefully see that game better, right,

1871
01:44:01.800 --> 01:44:06.880
<v Speaker 1>But just really quick here, the best selling PS five

1872
01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:09.640
<v Speaker 1>was the best selling hardware of the entire year. That's

1873
01:44:09.680 --> 01:44:13.359
<v Speaker 1>on surprise. You know, Switch was down and Xbox's Xbox

1874
01:44:13.399 --> 01:44:15.960
<v Speaker 1>at this point, but it is tracking ahead of the

1875
01:44:16.039 --> 01:44:22.600
<v Speaker 1>PS four by seven percent, which is good for PlayStation. Uh,

1876
01:44:23.079 --> 01:44:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Xbox Series is spelling Xbox one by eighteen percent. But

1877
01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:29.840
<v Speaker 1>again they had different strategies at that point, So people

1878
01:44:29.880 --> 01:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>don't need to buy an Xbox Series to play the

1879
01:44:33.840 --> 01:44:37.479
<v Speaker 1>Xbox games, right, so you know it is what it

1880
01:44:37.640 --> 01:44:40.439
<v Speaker 1>is called duty. Blackop six was still the best selling

1881
01:44:40.479 --> 01:44:44.359
<v Speaker 1>game of twenty twenty four despite being on Xbox Game Pass. Uh,

1882
01:44:44.640 --> 01:44:48.239
<v Speaker 1>it did have a drop of like nine percent compared

1883
01:44:48.319 --> 01:44:51.439
<v Speaker 1>to was it Modern War for three last year?

1884
01:44:53.279 --> 01:44:56.039
<v Speaker 2>Lost track of franchise entirely, So.

1885
01:44:58.199 --> 01:45:00.239
<v Speaker 1>There is a drop, But I think it it's not

1886
01:45:00.520 --> 01:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>just the game Pass part of it all. It's just probably,

1887
01:45:04.039 --> 01:45:06.039
<v Speaker 1>like you know, there might be a little bit of

1888
01:45:06.119 --> 01:45:08.920
<v Speaker 1>a fatigue with Call of Duty. Also the fact that

1889
01:45:09.079 --> 01:45:12.000
<v Speaker 1>war Zone exists. You don't need to have the latest

1890
01:45:12.079 --> 01:45:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Call of Duty to have the Call of Duty experience, right,

1891
01:45:14.960 --> 01:45:17.479
<v Speaker 1>So if you only play multiplayer and you don't care

1892
01:45:17.520 --> 01:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>about having Black Ops six, you just play war Zone

1893
01:45:20.079 --> 01:45:23.600
<v Speaker 1>or you play war Zone. I have friends co workers

1894
01:45:23.680 --> 01:45:28.560
<v Speaker 1>that him and his wife only play war Zone Mobile.

1895
01:45:29.159 --> 01:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>So like I'm telling you, man, people just these these

1896
01:45:33.239 --> 01:45:37.119
<v Speaker 1>forever games. Why why do I waste money on Black

1897
01:45:37.159 --> 01:45:38.119
<v Speaker 1>Ops when I could just play this.

1898
01:45:38.760 --> 01:45:40.279
<v Speaker 2>That was a funny thing last night with my roommate

1899
01:45:40.279 --> 01:45:42.079
<v Speaker 2>when he had this psive and looking it up because

1900
01:45:42.079 --> 01:45:43.439
<v Speaker 2>I was like, he didn't have a discribe, and I

1901
01:45:43.520 --> 01:45:45.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, what you get when you can borrow some

1902
01:45:45.039 --> 01:45:48.239
<v Speaker 2>of my games. If you want, I'll give Destiny to

1903
01:45:48.399 --> 01:45:50.159
<v Speaker 2>a shot, just thinking like.

1904
01:45:53.520 --> 01:45:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Console, Like, yeah, of all the games there, the other

1905
01:45:58.560 --> 01:46:03.439
<v Speaker 1>games on this list here, EA Sports called Football twenty

1906
01:46:03.520 --> 01:46:05.239
<v Speaker 1>five is the number two best selling game of the

1907
01:46:05.439 --> 01:46:08.319
<v Speaker 1>entire year in the United States. People really missed that

1908
01:46:08.359 --> 01:46:14.079
<v Speaker 1>college football helldivers to Dragon Ball sparking zero. Amazing for

1909
01:46:14.199 --> 01:46:17.399
<v Speaker 1>that franchise to sell that much. NBA two K twenty five,

1910
01:46:17.880 --> 01:46:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Man twenty five, Calle of Dunion, Modern War for three, God,

1911
01:46:22.399 --> 01:46:26.840
<v Speaker 1>EA Sports FC twenty five, Elden Ring. You know that

1912
01:46:27.399 --> 01:46:30.960
<v Speaker 1>expansion helped a lot there, and the EA Sports MVP

1913
01:46:31.279 --> 01:46:37.640
<v Speaker 1>bundle with Madden and college Football altogether. I think Rebirth

1914
01:46:37.840 --> 01:46:42.640
<v Speaker 1>was like eighteenth or something like that. Grand Theft Auto

1915
01:46:43.039 --> 01:46:47.439
<v Speaker 1>five and Minecraft I think still sold better than but

1916
01:46:47.520 --> 01:46:49.680
<v Speaker 1>at least Rebirth was on there because Astrobat was not

1917
01:46:49.800 --> 01:46:52.479
<v Speaker 1>on there at all. It was on there for the

1918
01:46:52.520 --> 01:46:55.199
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation one, the one that's only PlayStation, but not the

1919
01:46:55.279 --> 01:47:00.399
<v Speaker 1>one that was for the entire year. So hey, uh,

1920
01:47:01.319 --> 01:47:04.840
<v Speaker 1>no surprise, so seople black those games that you buy

1921
01:47:04.920 --> 01:47:07.279
<v Speaker 1>once a year and play with your friends, right is

1922
01:47:07.319 --> 01:47:09.880
<v Speaker 1>what it is. Uh. The only new game Hell Diverge

1923
01:47:09.880 --> 01:47:12.880
<v Speaker 1>two B also falls into that category. Dragon Ball Sparking

1924
01:47:13.079 --> 01:47:16.359
<v Speaker 1>zero is kind of like the only one, uh that

1925
01:47:16.600 --> 01:47:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I got.

1926
01:47:16.920 --> 01:47:21.079
<v Speaker 2>Like a surprising amount of buzz. Yeah, because it's.

1927
01:47:20.960 --> 01:47:25.239
<v Speaker 1>A bad game or you know, but I mean bad

1928
01:47:25.439 --> 01:47:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and people, I mean.

1929
01:47:28.039 --> 01:47:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Dragon Balls is coming back into more popular fashion these days.

1930
01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:34.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure, with Diama out there and everything, and

1931
01:47:34.079 --> 01:47:38.840
<v Speaker 1>then obviously the sad passing like yeah, you know, it's

1932
01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:41.960
<v Speaker 1>uh they I think they just started restarted the super

1933
01:47:42.039 --> 01:47:45.600
<v Speaker 1>manga not too long ago, so it's it's going. It's

1934
01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:49.479
<v Speaker 1>definitely uh, getting back into that popularity, like you said,

1935
01:47:49.560 --> 01:47:56.199
<v Speaker 1>so that helps as well. I think that's pretty much it.

1936
01:47:56.399 --> 01:47:59.399
<v Speaker 1>Other than also earth Blade, it's supposed to be the

1937
01:47:59.439 --> 01:48:02.840
<v Speaker 1>next game from the Celeste developer, has been canceled, aspecially

1938
01:48:02.840 --> 01:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the Metro Ranea. There's a big story behind it.

1939
01:48:07.720 --> 01:48:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you go.

1940
01:48:11.880 --> 01:48:14.039
<v Speaker 1>No Maddie Thorson just said that, you know, he was

1941
01:48:14.119 --> 01:48:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the R and D director said that this was between

1942
01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:24.039
<v Speaker 1>uh Noel and Maddie and then also Pedro fending member

1943
01:48:24.960 --> 01:48:29.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of time elaborate our director Worth Blade left

1944
01:48:29.359 --> 01:48:31.359
<v Speaker 1>as well. They all kind of are They all kind

1945
01:48:31.399 --> 01:48:34.600
<v Speaker 1>of decided. Apparently there was a disagreement between the IP

1946
01:48:34.800 --> 01:48:38.840
<v Speaker 1>rights of Celeste between them and that they are all

1947
01:48:38.920 --> 01:48:40.239
<v Speaker 1>going to go their separate ways.

1948
01:48:40.640 --> 01:48:44.680
<v Speaker 2>So you know, reminded of like when they canceled, when

1949
01:48:44.720 --> 01:48:49.479
<v Speaker 2>that that Phil Fish canceled, not braid, but uh, what's

1950
01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:50.520
<v Speaker 2>what's when he canceled?

1951
01:48:52.039 --> 01:48:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, I think I think yeah, yeah yeah. Or

1952
01:48:59.039 --> 01:49:04.039
<v Speaker 3>also the the Z A U M Studio, the Zone Yeah.

1953
01:49:04.199 --> 01:49:06.039
<v Speaker 2>And talking about that a few days ago because he

1954
01:49:06.119 --> 01:49:07.199
<v Speaker 2>still wants that to happen.

1955
01:49:07.359 --> 01:49:10.319
<v Speaker 1>But it's like that's yeah, that that thing got so

1956
01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:13.479
<v Speaker 1>bad they all started making their own game or whatever,

1957
01:49:13.600 --> 01:49:17.359
<v Speaker 1>and like there's three games in development and it's like, okay,

1958
01:49:17.800 --> 01:49:18.560
<v Speaker 1>this is crazy.

1959
01:49:19.119 --> 01:49:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. One last thing I was gonna mention is I

1960
01:49:23.840 --> 01:49:27.920
<v Speaker 2>don't it just kind of announced today but the software

1961
01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:32.479
<v Speaker 2>president just passed away. Yes, so that's a bummer. I mean,

1962
01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:37.680
<v Speaker 2>is like my favorite company or anything, but the games

1963
01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:40.159
<v Speaker 2>and kind of a good sense of humor.

1964
01:49:40.960 --> 01:49:43.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think if you don't if the name

1965
01:49:43.439 --> 01:49:45.319
<v Speaker 1>doesn't ring a bell, they're kind of the ones known

1966
01:49:45.359 --> 01:49:46.359
<v Speaker 1>for Deskuya.

1967
01:49:46.640 --> 01:49:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah and more so. But they've been around to quite

1968
01:49:51.960 --> 01:49:55.000
<v Speaker 2>a while. Like it's kind of surprising, so I don't know,

1969
01:49:55.079 --> 01:49:56.920
<v Speaker 2>this guy's like running it all the way through or anything.

1970
01:49:57.319 --> 01:50:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, sixty four is still young. Ag it's to

1971
01:50:00.439 --> 01:50:07.039
<v Speaker 1>be passing so right. Sucks. Sucks to see that. We

1972
01:50:07.319 --> 01:50:10.199
<v Speaker 1>moved from that to games that are coming out this

1973
01:50:10.399 --> 01:50:14.399
<v Speaker 1>week to end the show, as we always do. I

1974
01:50:14.560 --> 01:50:18.039
<v Speaker 1>mentioned the Eternal Strands comes out tomorrow on game Pass.

1975
01:50:18.159 --> 01:50:22.520
<v Speaker 1>You can go check that out. There's a demo also,

1976
01:50:22.600 --> 01:50:25.159
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have game Pass, you can play that

1977
01:50:25.359 --> 01:50:29.800
<v Speaker 1>too if if that strikes your fancy. Uh. The Carmen

1978
01:50:29.920 --> 01:50:34.359
<v Speaker 1>San Diego game, the I guess like a reboot of.

1979
01:50:34.600 --> 01:50:36.359
<v Speaker 2>I saw a trailer that and I was, what is

1980
01:50:36.439 --> 01:50:38.319
<v Speaker 2>this San Diego.

1981
01:50:38.439 --> 01:50:42.239
<v Speaker 1>It's on you can play it on Netflix, the Netflix app.

1982
01:50:43.720 --> 01:50:45.399
<v Speaker 1>I might check it out just because I love that

1983
01:50:45.560 --> 01:50:49.319
<v Speaker 1>game when I was a kid on PC. It's not

1984
01:50:49.439 --> 01:50:52.760
<v Speaker 1>it's not. It has some of the same like vibes,

1985
01:50:52.920 --> 01:50:56.159
<v Speaker 1>I guess, but they changed quite a bit of it.

1986
01:50:57.359 --> 01:51:02.119
<v Speaker 1>Quiz Quiz an Ear or Moonlighter Junior as I've heard

1987
01:51:02.199 --> 01:51:05.279
<v Speaker 1>some people call it, is coming out also on the

1988
01:51:05.359 --> 01:51:09.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighth for Switch series and for the console. It's

1989
01:51:09.760 --> 01:51:13.439
<v Speaker 1>already been out on PC and the Tunia Riders in

1990
01:51:13.920 --> 01:51:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Augo's also out on the twenty eighth as well for

1991
01:51:17.680 --> 01:51:21.560
<v Speaker 1>your PS five four and Switch. I already mentioned Orcs

1992
01:51:21.640 --> 01:51:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Must Die Death Trap, a game that I'm still waiting

1993
01:51:25.119 --> 01:51:27.439
<v Speaker 1>and hoping that the review code will come in Taels

1994
01:51:27.439 --> 01:51:30.079
<v Speaker 1>of Iron two Whiskers of Winter. It's coming out on

1995
01:51:30.199 --> 01:51:34.840
<v Speaker 1>everything also on the twenty eighth. The Virtue of Fighter

1996
01:51:35.039 --> 01:51:41.279
<v Speaker 1>vive Revo also coming. That's the PC. Like, what's a

1997
01:51:41.399 --> 01:51:44.319
<v Speaker 1>remake of Virtual Fighter five or remaster?

1998
01:51:45.119 --> 01:51:48.039
<v Speaker 2>I think it's just like some stand always like a.

1999
01:51:48.119 --> 01:51:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Spanded okay, and they're doing like an update of the

2000
01:51:51.079 --> 01:51:53.239
<v Speaker 1>PS four game, but it's not getting all of this

2001
01:51:53.359 --> 01:51:58.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff that's in the right as well. Warside, which basically

2002
01:51:58.079 --> 01:52:04.119
<v Speaker 1>looks like an indie version of Advanced Wars. Literally, it

2003
01:52:04.319 --> 01:52:07.640
<v Speaker 1>just looks like an indie version of Advanced Wars coming

2004
01:52:07.680 --> 01:52:12.039
<v Speaker 1>out on everything the current consoles. Also coming to the

2005
01:52:12.079 --> 01:52:14.279
<v Speaker 1>current consoles is that there's a demo out for this too,

2006
01:52:14.439 --> 01:52:17.680
<v Speaker 1>The Stone of Madness, which is the next like game

2007
01:52:17.760 --> 01:52:20.520
<v Speaker 1>from that Blastoma studio, which looks really cool, like you

2008
01:52:20.640 --> 01:52:24.840
<v Speaker 1>have five different characters and you have to like figure

2009
01:52:24.840 --> 01:52:27.720
<v Speaker 1>out how to make them all escape from this prison

2010
01:52:28.279 --> 01:52:31.079
<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of set in like Spain or something,

2011
01:52:31.119 --> 01:52:34.199
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's really cool, looks really cool, has a

2012
01:52:34.279 --> 01:52:37.560
<v Speaker 1>cool art style. Definitely one that if you like those

2013
01:52:37.640 --> 01:52:40.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of games might want to go check it out

2014
01:52:40.399 --> 01:52:45.000
<v Speaker 1>as well. And then one, just because I saw Greg

2015
01:52:46.079 --> 01:52:48.119
<v Speaker 1>Miller talk about it on kind of Funny, Cryptical Path

2016
01:52:48.720 --> 01:52:50.760
<v Speaker 1>comes out on PC on the twenty ninth. It's a

2017
01:52:51.359 --> 01:52:54.640
<v Speaker 1>roguelike that you have to like build your own path

2018
01:52:55.159 --> 01:52:57.319
<v Speaker 1>and then you continue on that path to like try

2019
01:52:57.399 --> 01:53:01.359
<v Speaker 1>to get through the runs and stuff, and Hello Kitty,

2020
01:53:01.399 --> 01:53:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm an adventure also comes out. Mentioned to me a

2021
01:53:04.800 --> 01:53:08.640
<v Speaker 1>few times about coming to PC and Switch. The Spider

2022
01:53:08.680 --> 01:53:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Man two remaster or PC port I'm Sorry is coming

2023
01:53:12.880 --> 01:53:16.199
<v Speaker 1>on the thirtyth Snapper Lea Resistance I mentioned already, fanom

2024
01:53:16.239 --> 01:53:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Brave the Lost Hero, which it is a port of

2025
01:53:21.560 --> 01:53:25.039
<v Speaker 1>an older game or remaster that's coming to Switch in

2026
01:53:25.159 --> 01:53:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the PS fives and then set It's to Super two

2027
01:53:27.680 --> 01:53:33.159
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned already as well. So, Hey, lots of stuff

2028
01:53:33.319 --> 01:53:38.000
<v Speaker 1>coming here at the end of January. Sure there'll be

2029
01:53:38.079 --> 01:53:43.079
<v Speaker 1>something for everybody and all of that. Yeah, So then

2030
01:53:43.119 --> 01:53:46.760
<v Speaker 1>we hit the big month, the review season month of February.

2031
01:53:46.840 --> 01:53:49.960
<v Speaker 1>That's going to have a bunch of stuff from beginning

2032
01:53:50.039 --> 01:53:55.159
<v Speaker 1>to end. So get ready for that, everybody. Yeah, but

2033
01:53:55.239 --> 01:53:59.800
<v Speaker 1>all right, it will be February the next time where

2034
01:53:59.800 --> 01:54:04.279
<v Speaker 1>he February third actually we're doing the show next so

2035
01:54:04.680 --> 01:54:08.600
<v Speaker 1>until then, everybody, we'll see you later, all right, bye,
