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smartphone or tablet, And again, thank you so much for

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your support. I know I've been doing a lot of

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Israel iron coverage in the last you know, well today

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and yesterday. I know, but I kind of feel like

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it's important, Like I think everybody thinks this is important.

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I kind of feel like that. But uh, Trump gave

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him a two week notice, so I feel like in

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the next couple of days we'll it'll drift out of

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the news cycle except for some updates on you know,

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what's happening over there. But we got a two week window.

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We'll see what happens. Will the Iranians take them up

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on the two week window?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: Just announced at a.

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Speaker 1: White House press conference that Donald Trump said he will

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make a decision in two weeks. Within two weeks, he

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said so about whether or not to do anything, I'm

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not sure. So you know, to give time for negotiations

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or whatever. So I'm going to give them the two weeks,

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and in the meantime, you know, you got Israel is

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going to keep hammering away doing what they're doing. Iran

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has a decision to make, is to whether or not

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they're going they're going to keep fighting and just let

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the two weeks expire and take their chances. You've got

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the people of Iran, they got two weeks if they

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want to try to mobilize.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned last hour that.

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Speaker 1: Their UH state TV was hacked, taken over, and you know,

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UH messages were being sent out via their state TV

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to rise up against their uh, their tyrannical government.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see if that happens.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of people in around that are

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not cool with their government, and they rose up before

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a couple of times. The biggest one was under Obama's tenure,

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and he just let them all twist, didn't didn't do

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anything to help them. So, and I'm not advocating we

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do right now, but maybe the ground is more fertile

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for them to make a change themselves.

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Speaker 2: But that's going to be their call.

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Speaker 1: So against this backdrop, we have the this argument between

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It was built as an interview, but it really wasn't

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it was.

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Speaker 2: It was just an argument.

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Speaker 1: It was a It was a fight between Ted Cruz

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and Tucker Carlson and go if you want to hear

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more of this, I played. I focused more on this

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in the first hour, played a couple of clips in

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the second hour, and I've got just three more.

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Speaker 2: Clips here to get through. But this to me.

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Speaker 1: Crystallized really the problem inside magaworld Trump administration, and this

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this rift between what people call the woke right among

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the MAGA influencers, and people have been predicting this rift

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coming for a while with the woke right because and

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I've talked about this before. Any time you have a

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movement or a group of people that you know, win election,

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they win power, there are i will call it, I'll

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just say psychopaths, Okay, sociopaths, malignant narcissists.

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Speaker 2: So they will glom onto that movement. They will.

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Speaker 1: You see this by the way, in churches too, people

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who are uh you know, they want power, they want control,

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they want people to adore them. They will they will

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seek these positions of power and so they try to

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get close to power in order to elevate themselves and

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their own power, and in doing so, they will adopt

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whatever arguments need to be adopted. And that's why people

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on the left, and we've been talking about this for years,

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the victim mentality, the use of weaponized empathy. They use

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your empathy against you in order to get you to

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do what they want done, and a lot of it

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is about securing more control for them. So there's no

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reason why the same thing wouldn't happen on the right.

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adopt whatever they need to adopt in order to gain power.

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So the problem here, to me crystallizes in this next

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exchange where Ted Cruz actually asks Tucker Carlson if he

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supports because he started talking about you know, you know,

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you're opposing Donald Trump and whatever, and Tucker's.

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Speaker 2: Like, I love Donald Trump. That's my Tuckle Carlson impression.

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Speaker 1: And so Cruz asked Carlson, well, do you have you

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supported any any military action that's been taken by Donald Trump? Ever,

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I would say it's really simple. I believe in self defense.

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That's why I keep firearms at home. I think it's

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morally justified to defend yourself, your family, your property, your nation,

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and so to the extent that you can deter a

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threat through violence, violence always being the least appealing choice,

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violence always being if I can finish, always being a tragedy,

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I think you can justify the use of violence and

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self defense. That that is my personal view, and that

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applies to me and to the country.

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Speaker 3: That I would know.

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Speaker 4: Those are my views. That's not an isolation his view.

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It's not any israel view. It's not anti Semitic view,

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with apologies, it is I think, a pretty common sense view.

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But my problem is that lawmakers in Washington are light

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on detail with these things, and they speak, as you do,

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entirely in moral terms.

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Speaker 2: These people are bad, These people are.

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Speaker 5: I'm not speaking entirely in moral terms, undest in killing

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people who are trying to kill us if we had

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that's different.

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Speaker 1: He's exactly right by the way. He didn't say the

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Mullas are bad. He didn't speak in moral terms. He

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spoke in terms of Iran is trying to get a

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nuclear weapon that is a threat to US, Hence, according

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to Tucker's own standard, that would be morally justified.

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Speaker 4: Or are you? Are you now? Because you told me

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that the government of Iran is presently trying to assassinate

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Donald Trump and then said the disputed there's literally no,

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Then why don't you say military action right now against Iran?

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Speaker 3: We are engaged in military action right now.

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Speaker 4: Why don't you Why don't you support offensive military action.

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Speaker 5: We're bombing the crap out on Israelism, We're supporting them

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israel Is.

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Speaker 4: So why shouldn't the US military defend its own president.

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I don't understand that. Look, now we should get those

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back to because you don't really believe it's true.

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Speaker 5: That's why everyone nobody disputes it. Tucker on the Moon?

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What other conspiracy do you not believe? Was nine to

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eleven in Inside Job?

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Speaker 4: I mean, like, what? So what I've asked you the

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names of these people?

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Speaker 3: I don't I know it?

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Speaker 5: Because the US military and the intelligence agencies have testified

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before Congress or peaple what did they say, Iran is

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trying to murder Donald Trump and as hired hitmen.

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Speaker 3: Do I know the name of the hitmen?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry we do either, because we would apprehend them

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if we knew their names.

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Speaker 4: Then why take it seriously enough to support killing the

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Iyatola in response to protect our president?

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Speaker 3: But you don't.

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Speaker 4: This doesn't make even make any sense, and you're calling

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me an isolationist. If I believed that was true, I

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would support military action against the government of Iran.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's interesting because there is literally kill our president

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all right.

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Speaker 3: At a five hundred and third thirty five members of Congress.

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Speaker 5: I am not aware of one who disputes that Iran

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is trying to murder Donald J.

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Speaker 3: Trump.

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Speaker 5: That's not even the loneius Democrat doesn't dispute that. So,

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so I don't you're saying if if you believed what,

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what is I think a.

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Speaker 4: Fact that they are trying you think it's a fact?

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What is the fact exactly what they've hireded them in

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the United States?

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Speaker 3: Yeah Americans. Yeah, he's not in a RAN, so they

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haven't hired hit the hitman an American. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you what And by the way, I'm not

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the CIA, I'm not I'm not the Department of Defense.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you what they have told us.

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Speaker 4: I'm not disputing it. I'm merely saying we are. I'm

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not I'm saying the logic train has a massive hole

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in it. If you believe that's true, then you should

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by definition, support killing the people trying to kill our president.

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Speaker 3: But you don't support that now, Tuckery.

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Speaker 2: So I'm wondering what's going on here. So he's trying

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to goad.

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Speaker 1: Cruise into saying we need to attack Iran, we need

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to drop a bomb on them, we need to do

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whatever on like, we need to get involved because they

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tried to kill Trump. But Cruise doesn't take the bait

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because Israel's already doing this right by the way, Tucker

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Carlson may not read the news, but in September twenty

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twenty four from Politico, the Iranian government ordered an operative

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to assassinate Donald Trump before the twenty twenty four election,

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according to federal prosecutors in Manhattan, not exactly Trump territory,

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not exactly Maga territory or Maga country. As a juicy

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smolet candate. I have the guy's name too. They charged

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him with a murder for higher plot. His name is

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Farhad Shakerri. He's in Iran. He actually gave a statement

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to them. But this may surprise you. We don't have

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extradition agreements with Iran, so they're not sending him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I've got the story. It's quick Google search, Tucker,

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and they've done more. Iran's done other things too. There

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was an entire write up just the other day by

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reported back in November that the Iranian government ordered an

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operative to assassinate Donald Trump. Prosecutors charged Farhad Shakeri with

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murder for hire and providing materials support to a foreign

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terrorist organization. He is believed to be in Iran and

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remains at large again.

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Speaker 2: This was November.

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Speaker 1: In addition to the plot to kill Trump, Shakerri and

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two other men, Carlyle Rivera and Jonathan Loadholt, were charged

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with a separate attempted murder for higher scheme targeting a

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US citizen of Iranian origin who has publicly opposed the

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Iranian government. According to a criminal complaint unsealed in Manhattan

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Federal Court, Shakerri said during an FBI interview that in

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September of twenty four he was directed by the Islamic

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Revolutionary Guard Corps of Iran to surveil and then kill Trump,

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whom the charging papers identified as Victim four. When Shakri

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told the Iranian Guard official that doing so would prove expensive,

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the official responded.

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Speaker 2: Quote, money is not an issue.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. That sounded kind of Russian, but

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it was just, you know, on the fly. One month later,

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October seventh, last year, according to prosecutors, the IRGC ordered

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Shakerri to put forward a plan to assassinate Trump within

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one week, and if that proved to be impossible, then

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to pause the plan until after election day because the

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IRGC assumed Trump would lose, and if he lost, he'd

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be easier to kill. Sho Kerry is an Afghan national

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who immigrated to the US as a child. According to

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the complaint, he was deported in two thousand and eight

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after serving fourteen years in New York State prisons after

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Sho Kerry as having developed and used a network of

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the IRGC with operatives to conduct surveillance and assassinations of

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IRGC targets. That's who Carlisle Rivera and Jonathan Lodholt were

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man suspected of plotting on behalf of Iran to kill

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high ranking US politicians or officials, including perhaps Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Those are two that we know of. That we know of.

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Speaker 1: And so when Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu talked about

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two plots to assassinate Trump that originated out of Iran,

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and Tucker Carlson, in this argument with Ted Cruz says,

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are they I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Anything about these things? We don't know, then why don't

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we just bomb them?

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Speaker 1: And Cruz does not have all this information at his fingertips.

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Netanyahu is lying to us in order to get us

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to fight his war. That's the narrative from the Wolk

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right that Bibby wants Americans to die for Israel. That's

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what they've been saying. And because Carlson either actually is

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ignorant of this information or he's pretending to be ignorant

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of this information, he is now beating on Ted Cruz

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to try to goad him into advocating boots on the ground,

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direct offensive action against Iran. So if any world leader

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or government attempts to assassinate or even just tries to

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set up a plan to assassinate our president Carlson, I

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guess what he just said there. We're supposed to believe

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that Carlson thinks we need to invade that country and

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kill their leadership. Now, and Cruz explained this also that

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there has for a very long time been this sort

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of understanding that we don't whack each other's heads of state.

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that's been sort of the deal. That's not to say

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that governments always followed that, but that's usually been the case. Right,

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that these world leaders are not assassinated by other governments.

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It's like a gentleman's gentlemanly agreement.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Trump has also been a target of Iran since January

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of twenty twenty, when as president, he ordered a drone

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strike that killed Kassan Solomani, then Iran's most powerful military general.

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So once again Cruz asks whether or not Tucker Carlson

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has ever supported any military action that Donald Trump has

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limited as they have been. And I listened to this

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thing twice. Carlson never answers. He never answers. He pivots

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to some other topic or question. He says he's about results,

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and then he turns it to the ISIS in Syria

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and you must be fine with that. You're fine with

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the ISIS leading Syria, and Cruz is like, I'm not

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fine with that. But that's sort of a wait and

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see kind of a thing, you know, Like we didn't

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take out Bashar al Assad. He fell on his own.

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He fell after Hesbala was decapitated by Israel. He had

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no support outside of Hesballah, and once they were decapitated,

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they rose up against him and he was out. That's

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not our fault.

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Speaker 2: We didn't do that. Trump didn't do that.

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Speaker 1: But somehow or another, because he gets deposed and some

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ISIS guy takes over and he's letting Israel fly over

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his airspace to take out the the Iranians, like we're

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taking away and see approach. But I guess Carlson wants

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us to go invade Syria or something.

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Speaker 2: See what I mean? Like this, he's just he's.

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Speaker 1: All over the place except he's very suspicious of Israel,

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like that's that's I just I cannot help but notice,

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these last couple of clips though, from the Carlson Cruz argument,

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so Israel is taking out the threat of nuclear weapons.

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Ted Cruz challenges Tucker Carlson for you know, tell me

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you know, name me one military action that you supported

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Trump on, and then he said that Carlson attacked Donald

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Trump and called Trump complicit. That Carlson called Trump complicit

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in the war in the Israeli actions, I.

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Speaker 4: Can tu, yes you have and and by the way,

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pained for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this is like after anti.

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Speaker 4: Semitism, this is the last refuge.

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Speaker 3: You're an antisemonin you hate Trump, Okay, I love Trump.

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Speaker 5: I will read you put out a whole newsletter saying

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Trump rand in America first.

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Speaker 3: And here's what Trump said in response.

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Speaker 5: Well, considering that I'm the one that developed America first,

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and considering that the term wasn't used until I came along,

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I think I'm the one who decides that for those

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people who say they want peace, you can't have peace

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if Iran has a nuclear weapon. So for all of

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those wonderful people who don't want to do anything about

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Iran having a nuclear weapon, that's not peace.

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Speaker 3: That was directed at you.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: This is you got me busted. No, I'm just saying

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he did.

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Speaker 2: Actually you are.

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Speaker 1: He did get you. You are, and your little smirky

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dismissiveness about that does not negate that truth. He did.

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He said you attacked Donald Trump. You said no, I did,

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and I love Trump, I campaigned for him. But you

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also wrote in your newsletter that Trump abandoned America First,

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which prompted Trump to respond to you saying, I created

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America First. I'm you know, the America First guy. I'm

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the leader of this movement, not you, Tucker or any

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of these other Wolke Wright influencers. He didn't use the

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term wolk right, but and so Tucker was in fact

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busted and had no explanation for this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm my views.

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Speaker 3: Look, I like Trump.

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Speaker 2: I can't paign for Trump. I know Trump. I talked

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to him last night.

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Speaker 3: Not against Trump, and you know that. I but you're

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against this football.

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Speaker 4: I think that we should be very careful about entering

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into more foreign wars that don't help us when our

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country is dying. Is dying, all right, So there's another pivot.

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We should be very careful about entering into foreign wars. Again,

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Trump has not said we're going to war with Iran.

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He's not said that. He's he's supporting Israel in what

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it's doing.

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Speaker 2: Through what words, but also.

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Speaker 1: Replenishment of the munitions to shoot out of the sky

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the incoming Iranian missiles. So is that going to war?

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We're selling them the bombs or the the the arrows

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in David's sling and the iron dome thing, right, because

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they are running out because Iran is launching so many

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of these missiles over into Israel, killing Israeli's they're targeting

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residential sections of Israel. So that's what we have provided help.

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We are sending uh we sent a carrier into the

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area because because Israel is what is our ally right Again,

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I said in the very beginning of the program, I said,

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if you want to make an argument that Israel should

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not be our ally, well that's a different argument. But

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because we are allies, we are supporting them, but we

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are not We have not put boots on the ground,

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we have not flown any combat missions over Iran. We

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haven't done anything like that. Now that's going to be

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for Trump to decide whether or not we give them

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one of these bunker bustin bombs and the B two

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crew and the plane to fly over and actually do

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the bombing run. That's a that's the second level question.

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The first level question is is it in our interest

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to make sure that their weapons program is eliminated? Right,

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and Tucker lays out this false choice that we can

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only do one thing or the other.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: If you're if you're going to support Israel in their

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fight against Iran, then that means you can't focus on,

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you know, cleaning up the streets in these left wing cities,

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and that's that's not that's not the choice. There are

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way more options available. People can do more than one thing,

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The government can do more than one thing.

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Speaker 2: It's a false choice. I reject the line of argument

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that he's using.

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Speaker 5: I want to stop a lunatic who wants to murder

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us from getting nuclear weapon could kill millions of Americans.

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You say, I can't see how that benefits American anyway.

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That is bizarre and by the way, isolationism. Your foreign

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policy is the foreign policy of Jimmy Carter and Barack

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Obama and.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't work. Yeah, I'm a big leftist.

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Speaker 4: This is so silly. And now I'm Jimmy Carter and

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Barack Obama. Okay, he didn't let me just see one

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less thing.

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Speaker 5: So how is your foreign policy different from Jimmy cartersh

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that's what he said, seriously, please, but I mean I

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asked that question seriously.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what you're talking about, Jimmy Carter.

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So what century is this?

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Speaker 2: I am?

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Speaker 1: So he doesn't answer the question. Either he doesn't know

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Jimmy Carter's foreign policy, or he knows and he knows

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that his is very similar, which is exactly what Ted

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Cruz is saying. But he doesn't want that label, so

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he just O, it's just, oh my god, Okay, that's

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so silly.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even going to answer it, which is an answer.

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Speaker 4: The product of the last twenty five years watching carefully

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being involved in the periphery, and I see an unending

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string of foreign policy disasters that have impoverished in.

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Speaker 3: Her unending string.

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Speaker 4: An unending string, they would include Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria,

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and our inability to stop the Hoothies by the way

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in Yemen, which exposes us as we can I grieve

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over that. So these are failures you help preside over

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some of them as a member of the Senate. Of

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what failures for policy failures have I presided on? Well,

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we were unable to beat Russia in the war that

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you supported against Russia.

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Speaker 1: The war against Russia. Yeah, Ted Cruz initially supported the

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first round of funding and then has opposed every round since.

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out a person after losing elections, but taking out because

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this is on solomony that the Iranian said, will wait

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until after the election, he'll be easier to kill, and

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this person is saying it doesn't make any sense to

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take him out after the election. It does because it's

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in retribution for whacking Solomoni Amy in Wonderland says, Tucker

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just alienated the vast majority of his audience to pander

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to the lunatic fringe. I hope he enjoys his new

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found obscurity. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe maybe he did,

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maybe he didn't. I don't know what his audience, you know,

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looks like. Jim says, this is a peat meal. Jim says,

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why can't the US lease the B two stealth bomber

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to Israel? Israel puts its name on the plane, flies

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it with its pilot and crew. The US sells the

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bunk or buster bomb and devices to Israel.

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Speaker 2: Done.

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Speaker 1: There must be something more to it that prevents the

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US from doing this. Russia, China, et al sell their

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military devices to other countries all the time. Jim that

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that may be away. They go, I'm not sure they

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would let the Israelis fly the B two. I think

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that's something that our that our pilots need to fly,

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you know, but maybe they can. Maybe they taken Israeli

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pilot crew up with them, right they and then so

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they fly it over and then they have the Israelis

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like take the controls just for the bombing part. I

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don't know, but no, I suggested this, suggested this the

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other day, like, hey, can we loan them the thing?

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I like, yeah, we could lease it to them. Get

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some money from him. Dennis says, my voice impersonation of

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Tucker Chatsworth Carlson is excellent. Thank you, Dennis.

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Speaker 2: This is from Mark. Tucker is sharp.

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Speaker 1: I don't always agree with him, but he's logical and

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is well reasoned. Dude has done debates for decades, not

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just radio slash TV monologues. Okay, yeah, I don't know.

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I don't know if that's a dig at me or not.

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I think I'm pretty good at debates too. If that

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was a dig at me, I mean I'm not awesome

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at it. But as I said earlier in the first hour,

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if you hadn't if you didn't listen to the first hour,

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I pointed out that Cruz is better when he's got

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a clock or he's alone on a stage, and this

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was so this was not a good format for him.

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Part of that is his delivery as well. And he's

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a senator. He's been a senator for a long time,

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and you tend to start speaking in this Senate ease

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kind of delivery, like John F. Kerry who served in Vietnam.

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As I recall anyway, Number two, Mark says he knows

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the answer before he asks the questions. I totally agree

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with you on that. That's why they're all leading questions.

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And when he says I'm just asking questions, he's not

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just asking questions. He's trying to lead to a conclusion

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for the Gatcha and Cruz won't play the game, and

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that's why they started fighting. In the case of Cruz,

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he just wanted Cruz to state his view slash position

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of why we attack slash support Israel like anyone else.

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Cruz did say that again, the first order question is

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do we allow Israel or sorry, is it in our

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national interest to let Israel take out the nuclear program?

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I say yes, Ted Cruz said yes. Tucker Carlson, I guess,

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says no. I disagree. Ted Cruz made that perfectly clear.

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We are not attacking. We are supporting Israel because it

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is our ally and Iran is our enemy.

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Speaker 2: Very clear.

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Speaker 1: They've been our enemy for a very long time now.

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Maybe you don't want Iran to be our enemy, but

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they really don't like us. As I mentioned, they sent

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assassination teams into America to try to whack a number

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of people, including Donald Trump. Finally, Cruse is also in

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the neo con class liberty score of B. Not as

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bad as Lindsey Graham, but a lot of mouth. And

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so this is the irony. Ted Cruz voted against the

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Iraq War. He was or didn't vote against it. He

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opposed the Iraq War along with Donald Trump and Ran

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Paul they were the candidates in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 2: That's dead.

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Speaker 1: They opposed the Iraq War. And now he's a neocon.

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But Carlson who supported the Iraq War and now says

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that was a mistake, he's not an eocon. My two cents, personally,

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I would lend them the bunk or busters and planes

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needed to fly them if needed, and let them cook.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like this seems to be the obvious answer that

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I keep getting is why don't we just let Israel

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borrow the plane in the bomb or just or rent

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it or sell it to them and let them do it.

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Speaker 2: And maybe that's where this goes. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Bill says, I don't have Twitter, so it's not a

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pete tweet it's a peat meal. I know you've talked

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about it, but where are all the folks that need

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to be talking about Obama and Biden setting this up.

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Cruz did actually go in depth on that during this interview,

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specifically enabling the Iranians to be where they are, and

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has anybody asked Joe or Barack or their folks people

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what they think about all of this, by the way,

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or they are posed they want us to go back

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to the JCPOA. We need to rein reinstitute the deal

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with the Iranians because it works so well according to them.

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By the way, I listen to your podcast every morning

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on my walk to catch up on the pieces that

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I may have missed.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, I appreciate that. Bill.

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Speaker 1: We are available on all of the podcasting platforms, even

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the ones that aren't around anymore. Seth says, I wouldn't

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be surprised if the delay happening right now with Trump's

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stance is due to the thousands of Iranians that came

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across the border where the gate was welded open. The

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bill oh that Bill Malugin from Fox News found at

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the southern border, there will already sleeper sales here that

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they need to neutralize first. That's a very a that's

585
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a rational theory, right. We don't know who has come in.

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Tom Holman has talked about this. You have so many

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people that came across the border.

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Speaker 2: We don't know.

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Speaker 1: We don't know if there are sleeper cells. We have

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to assume there are. John wants to know if Tucker

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carl And graduated from the Michael Moore School of insinuation.

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Thomas says, let me go on record, I love your show,

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but don't always agree with you. That's totally fine, Tom.

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It may be eighty five percent to fifteen percent. I

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don't know if that's agree or disagree. But anyway, as

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you know, many in DC have changed their opinion slash

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appreciation of Trump. Power and money always has a way

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of changing things. But we know that Israel has a

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lot of influence with people like Cruise. See again, you

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don't know that Ted Cruz had these beliefs before he

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came to office. So to make that kind of assertion,

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show me where he changed his views.

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Speaker 2: He didn't. He's always he came in with these views.

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Speaker 1: Carlson may be asking the questions we need to ask

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before we go off blindly off to war. I don't

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think anybody's doing that. We seem to have time before

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we get involved. For twenty five years and billions of dollars,

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we have been hearing that Iran is working towards a

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let's ask questions. No, I'm saying, you can ask questions,

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but you can't. You can't ignore the answers when you

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ask them. And I went over this yesterday, the idea

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that like, oh, they've been saying that they're close to

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a nuke for twenty years. Yes, they have been, and

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the IAEA just centered them like two weeks ago. So

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the reason why they haven't achieved it yet is because

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Israel keeps knocking them out, but they keep making more

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and more progress, and so they saw their shot and

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they're taking it.

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Speaker 2: That's the answer to your question. All right, that'll do

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it for this episode.

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