WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:07.240 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:14.359 Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee. 3 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:18.320 So I wasn't aware we were gonna be getting this 4 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:21.199 information today, but it is good timing as it's been 5 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:23.960 a big topic for a while and it was what 6 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:27.079 we were just talking about a moment ago, the ACC 7 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:29.440 Coach of the Year National Coach of the Year conversation. Well, 8 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:31.440 the ACC Coach of the Year has been decided and 9 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:34.679 it was Pat Kelsey who who won, which again shouldn't 10 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:37.799 be a real surprise and certainly very very well deserved. 11 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:41.079 I mean, you've got I'm trying to see if they've 12 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:42.880 got Yeah, here we go. 13 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:43.600 I can't. 14 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:46.679 I can't see. Okay, the ACC themselves is now releasing it. 15 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:48.679 U of L is the first person I saw that 16 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:51.280 put out the graphic that announced that Pat Kelse was 17 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:54.119 the ACC Coach of the Year. And now they've also 18 00:00:54.799 --> 00:00:58.520 meant they've let us know that Chucky Hepburn was named 19 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:01.159 ACC Defensive Play of the Year and certainly going to 20 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:04.400 be a first teamer as well. So certainly well deserved 21 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:07.760 for both Chucky and for coach Kelsey. And again I'm 22 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:10.640 it looks like the ACC. On the Men's Basketball ACC 23 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:14.120 Men's Basketball social media pages, they're currently announcing these winners 24 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:16.680 right now. So again Pat Kelsey Coach of the Year, 25 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:19.200 player and Rookie of the Year no surprise in the ACC. 26 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:21.760 Cooper Flag have a hard time thinking he won't end 27 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:25.280 up being the national Player of the Year as well, 28 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:28.760 but most improved ended up going to Donald hand Junior 29 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:34.239 no clue that is, but plays for Boston College, and 30 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:37.519 the sixth Man of the Year is Col's Jeremiah Wilkerson. 31 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:38.079 Wilkinson. 32 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:42.879 So I don't know if that says more about the 33 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:47.359 league just being so whatever, or if it says more 34 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:52.519 about me just not paying attention like I mean usually usually, 35 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:54.359 I fu's anybody getting any kind of an award in 36 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:56.840 the ACC. I feel like I would have some awareness 37 00:01:56.840 --> 00:01:58.359 of who they are. I don't know who either of 38 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:02.599 those guys are. Maybe it's because Kyle's brand new to 39 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:06.079 the ACC and Boston College is not new, but they've 40 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:09.560 never really mattered. And really that's that's I can tell 41 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:12.120 you who's good for who in the ACC as far 42 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:14.840 as which teams, But none of these teams were really 43 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:18.240 like threats, Like it was nice to have this awesome 44 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:20.120 season that we had. I mean again, still doesn't seem 45 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:22.280 real to go twenty five and six, and I mean 46 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:24.319 just be in this position that we're in. It again 47 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:26.960 still doesn't seem real at times. But one thing that, 48 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:30.039 you know, it just hit me as I'm realizing, shouldn't 49 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:31.879 I know who these guys are? And the answer is yes, Like, 50 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:33.400 as someone who does what I do, I should know. 51 00:02:33.479 --> 00:02:36.120 This is Boston College guy's name again, Donald hann Junior. 52 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:39.479 Oh hand yeah, one heck of a job by him, DHJ. 53 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:45.039 So it just hit me when I came to the 54 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:46.520 realization that I have no clue who either. 55 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:48.400 I couldn't even lie to you like, oh yeah, he's 56 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:49.639 number on. No clue. 57 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:52.000 These guys could walk in and tell me who they 58 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:53.599 are and I would just, you know, I would. 59 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:56.280 Just have to take their word for it. But there really. 60 00:02:56.080 --> 00:03:00.360 Wasn't many nights in the ACC this year or where 61 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:02.120 I felt like as a fan, and I know I'm 62 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:04.280 not the only fan that does this where I'm like, oh, 63 00:03:05.080 --> 00:03:06.800 they got hair and Goady in the post that notre name. 64 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:08.840 It's gonna be a tough night for us, Gonna really 65 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:11.080 need you know, such and such to to play, to 66 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:12.879 play strong and not get in foul trouble. 67 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:14.919 Ben Hansborough's yeah, problem. 68 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:18.439 Yeah, like you just because you played a lot of 69 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:21.199 teams in this league, because that's really what the league 70 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:24.319 was filled with. That just really like if Louisville really 71 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:26.479 early on in league play, right, like once they got 72 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:29.439 to January and started rolling, and they knocked off Carolina 73 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:33.719 and they beat Clemson, and then you know, you started, 74 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:36.199 you know, you started to see that a lot of 75 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:38.319 the teams that you were gonna play down the line 76 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:40.199 were not as good as. 77 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:41.280 The teams you've already beaten. 78 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:44.319 Right, you still felt like you had some value at 79 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:47.520 the time with your wins over Indiana and even West Virginia. 80 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:51.319 So Louisville showed early on. It's not just because the 81 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:55.039 league's terrible, but Louisville showed early on despite the league 82 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:56.879 being down, they look like they're pretty good. So therefore 83 00:03:56.879 --> 00:03:58.680 it was more more often than not, it was just 84 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:02.159 all right, let's take business right, Let's let's just go 85 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:03.919 do what we're supposed to do, which is win. And oh, 86 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:05.680 by the way, if we win big, we're gonna be 87 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:08.840 enjoying it because we no longer take winning it all 88 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:11.039 for granted around here because of you know, the previous 89 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:14.599 few seasons. So anyways, Louisville a great sendoff of those 90 00:04:14.599 --> 00:04:17.920 seniors on Saturday, and the postseason will start for them 91 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:20.480 on Thursday in the ACC Tournament. In the quarterfinals, they'll 92 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:22.759 take on the winner. So it's gonna be tomorrow is 93 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:27.079 when it starts. It's gonna be cal And and Virginia 94 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:29.959 Tech winner that play stand for on Wednesday win or 95 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:34.079 that will play Louisville. So now that you're actually here 96 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:37.279 the postseason, in the postseason and you're seeing you know, 97 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:42.560 the All Conference awards being announced, I mean, what a 98 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:46.120 phenomenal regular season. And in college basketball it'll always be 99 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:49.079 the case that teams are remembered mostly for what they 100 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:51.160 do in the tournament and you can have a great season, 101 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:53.839 like it really shouldn't be that way, you know, the 102 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:56.879 more I really give it some thought, compare it to 103 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:58.839 I mean, every sport it's it's about what you do 104 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:00.759 when it matters, which again is the tournament right when 105 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:02.480 you get to the playoffs in the NFL that kind 106 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:06.480 of stuff. But because you know, the tournament's just so 107 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:09.079 different to where you know, we have resumes and seating 108 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:11.920 that's done in a way that you know you don't 109 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:15.160 see in the playoffs, right, there's a selection committee that 110 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:17.519 decides who's gonna get in, who's gonna get what seed. 111 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:20.279 They put sixty eight teams in, which means you know, 112 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:24.160 you could you could end up just having the opportunity 113 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:26.240 to have your season ended by a fifteen seed. 114 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:26.959 As a two seed. 115 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:29.399 It's kind of a scary thing if you think about it, because, man, 116 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:31.959 your two seed, which means what you had a phenomenal year. 117 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:35.040 But if you lose that game, which again you shouldn't 118 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:36.879 and if you do, you have nobody to blame it yourself, 119 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:41.040 but that loss could ruin everything. I mean, I think 120 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:42.839 you'll you'll have fond memories. 121 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:43.040 Of the ride. 122 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:49.639 But is college basketball fans, we just it's hard to 123 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:52.240 look back on a year and view it as all 124 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:54.720 that was great, That was awesome, what a fun year, 125 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:55.759 great year. 126 00:05:56.360 --> 00:05:57.600 If it is a real. 127 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:01.399 Disappointment in the postseason, like Ucky went thirty eight and 128 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:05.040 one made a Final four under no circumstance. Is that 129 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:09.439 ever a bad season for anybody, But because they were 130 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:11.639 undefeated and clearly were the best team in the country 131 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:14.079 and then they lost two games before it all came 132 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:16.279 to an end where they could have won the championship. 133 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:19.360 The fifteen team. They loved that group, They know how 134 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:19.800 good they were. 135 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:22.600 They probably don't have like bad memories, but there's always 136 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:27.120 going to be a sad and negative connection to that 137 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:29.519 team because you fell short. I mean, it doesn't mean 138 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:31.040 you didn't love them and that team, but you know 139 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:36.040 what I'm saying, Like college basketball, it's just it's it's 140 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:39.360 a different level of what you do in the Big 141 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:42.040 Dance is not only going to matter more than anything else, 142 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:44.199 because again that's the case everywhere, but what makes college 143 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:48.759 basketball rare is that it's almost like nothing matters right 144 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:52.040 like because you can have a great regular season that accomplished, 145 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:57.639 like for example, like Mark Pope. Mark Pope put together 146 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:00.279 a season in his debut at Kentucky that I don't 147 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:02.600 think anybody would say he did anything. But I mean 148 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:05.279 you could find probably people who are complaining about certain 149 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:08.879 things and maybe not liking his substitution patterns or something like. 150 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:11.279 That, but overall, like the guy won enough. 151 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:13.839 I mean, he went twenty one to ten. They're safely 152 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:15.920 a three or four seed at worst, and they've got 153 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:17.600 a bunch of wins that have value. They beat Duke, 154 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:20.040 they beat Louisville, they swept Tennessee, they beat Florida, who 155 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:21.720 right now I believe is maybe the best team in 156 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:25.720 the SEC. So you know, he did a lot of 157 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:29.639 good despite them having ten losses. But if they lose 158 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:34.199 in the first round, I mean, I think level headed 159 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:40.040 Kentucky fans can say, oh, well, next year will be better. 160 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:42.399 And look, I'm not saying that's going to happen, but 161 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:44.920 all those great wins that I just mentioned, because look, 162 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:47.160 some of the wins they have, you no, mean more 163 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:48.879 to you as a fan because of who it is, 164 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:51.879 more so than their resume. Right, Like sweeping Tennessee's is 165 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:54.959 a great day for Kentucky. Beating your rival Louisville once again, 166 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:58.959 it's a little extra special than other games because it's 167 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:02.480 the rival. So what I'm trying to say is, like 168 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:03.839 if they were to slip up and let's just say 169 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:06.399 they're a three seed and they lose to, let's see 170 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:08.160 who Lenardi's got them playing, And by the way, I'm 171 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:10.000 not saying they will, but like if they lose to Troy, 172 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:12.879 who's a fourteen seed, I don't think you're gonna hear 173 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:15.199 me in the Kentucky fans talking about, oh, he swept Tennessee, 174 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:18.759 he beat Louisville, he beat Duke, because when it actually mattered, 175 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:21.399 you fell flat. And again, maybe that's not even good example, 176 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:23.519 because I think I'm sure there are people hearing that 177 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:26.160 in thinking I'm saying that's gonna happen. 178 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:30.319 I'm not. But that was a long winded way of 179 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:30.959 me trying. 180 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:35.399 To say that college basketball will always be a real 181 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:40.320 tricky a tricky thing for your emotions. Because this team 182 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:43.480 for Louisville, you know, they had a phenomenal year, and 183 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:46.440 who knows what the tournament looks like for them. I mean, 184 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:49.559 I think their seed is pretty safe at a six seven, 185 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:51.879 I don't think you could be an eight. If you 186 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:54.200 did get an eight, he probably means you lose on Thursday. 187 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:56.080 I don't think you can get higher than a five, 188 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:57.679 even if you beat Duke. To be honest with you, 189 00:08:57.759 --> 00:09:00.360 which again easier said than done. But we have a 190 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:02.639 real rare situation here to where no matter like we 191 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:04.559 have such house money, if you will, when it comes 192 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:07.919 to the tournament that I don't think there's a scenario 193 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:11.399 that could play out wherever they end up in their 194 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:12.960 first game if it's a loss, Look that could happen 195 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:14.639 to by the way, like who knows who they're going 196 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:17.000 to play against, Like you just don't know, But I 197 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:19.200 just can't see any scenario. Let's just say worst case 198 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:21.519 scenario again, you lose first game and it's a blowout. 199 00:09:21.720 --> 00:09:24.240 That will not make me feel any differently than I 200 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:27.840 feel right now about this team and how phenomenal this 201 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:30.039 first season was, how enjoyable it was to come back 202 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:32.639 to life again this team, the revival, it's a real 203 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:35.519 thing that happened. Pat Kelsey put it in motion, started 204 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:38.159 talking about it. Did the Zach Bryan thing where he's 205 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:41.519 sharing that song called revival anytime he gets a commitment. 206 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:44.360 I mean, that was the clear brand of this debut 207 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:46.720 season for him with the program, Right, we're reviving thing. 208 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.080 It's a revival and it happened, And I don't need 209 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:53.960 a tournament to make me feel any different. So what 210 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:56.200 I'm getting at is like this is like, just enjoy 211 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:58.480 this because moving forward, like if Pat Kelsey does the 212 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.279 same thing next year, and like let's say they lose 213 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:05.360 in the round of sixty four and this year, let's 214 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:07.159 say they make the Sweet sixteen. No clue that happens, 215 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:09.720 but let's just hypothetically say that that's the situation. 216 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:10.080 That plays out. 217 00:10:10.519 --> 00:10:12.519 We're gonna be a lot more upset next year, just 218 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:15.159 because you know, this was such a rare, really a 219 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:17.080 once in a lifetime kind of thing as far as 220 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:20.320 just being able to enjoy it and everything that comes 221 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:22.639 with it because of the circumstance. 222 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:24.679 So again, it's a beautiful thing. 223 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:26.320 And again, if you are just not joining us, maybe 224 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:28.799 you just jumped in your car leaving work at five o'clock, 225 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:31.279 whatever it may be. Pat Kelsey was named ACC Coach 226 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:34.759 of the Year by the ACC. Now will he get 227 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:37.720 a national Coach of the Year. Who knows, But he'll 228 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:39.799 certainly be in the conversation, and I won't be shocked 229 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:42.120 if he does end up winning it, because you know, 230 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:43.759 look at the job that he's done this year. It's 231 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:49.159 been phenomenal. We got more awards coming in as Chucky Hepburn. 232 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:50.440 I love this. 233 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:54.600 I love this because I well, never mind, I'm wrong. 234 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:55.519 I got it wrong. 235 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:02.159 Because I'm reading Jody Demmling's tweet, which I think is incorrect. Yeah, 236 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:06.519 because yeah, here we go. Chuckie Hepburn made First Team 237 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:10.200 All ACC as you could expect. Terrence Edwards made third 238 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:15.120 Team All ACC. So again, I if he's third team, 239 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:18.840 then there's probably gonna be no second or third for 240 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:24.600 Javon or Rain. And that's not a crime, you know, clearly. 241 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.279 I'm I'm I'm gonna be a little biased, I suppose, 242 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:29.399 but I just think when you look at how good 243 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:31.320 Louisville was compared to the rest of the league outside 244 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:34.320 of two teams, really, I mean, Louisville was I mean 245 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:36.600 todd for second with Clemson, but they had the tiebreaker 246 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:38.639 and the only team that was ahead of them was Duke. 247 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:41.759 And Louisville had four guys that I think production wise 248 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:45.240 and really just their value was I think worthy of 249 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:48.360 All ACC. And I would And I know I sound 250 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:49.759 like I'm such a homer here, and I guess I am. 251 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.639 But I feel like giving All ACC honors to a 252 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:56.080 guy who put up you know, not as good as 253 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:00.279 numbers for a team that was substantially worse, I just 254 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:01.799 I don't know, Like I it would be hard for 255 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:03.399 me to vote for that person because I feel like 256 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:05.840 being a part of one of the better teams should matter. 257 00:12:06.440 --> 00:12:11.320 But yeah, I'm hoping that it's the Louisville graphic that 258 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:13.080 got it wrong and not Jody, but two tweets that 259 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:14.840 came in at like the exact same time. Jody says, 260 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:17.200 Louives pack Kelsey named ACC Coach of the Year, chuck you, 261 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:19.879 Hepburn named Defensive Player of the Year. Hepburn and Edwards 262 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:22.559 both on first team All ACC squad, and the Louisville 263 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:27.120 tweet the graphics shows fat and it says third. 264 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:31.039 Team All ACC. So I'm not better. I mean I 265 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:32.720 kind of am, but you know whatever a tease. 266 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:38.639 Yeah, So anyways, congrats to those guys, and you know, 267 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:41.200 not that anybody had to worry about it, but like 268 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.000 these guys aren't going to get like complacent, right, Like 269 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:48.320 this is innocent and that's one of the value. There's 270 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:50.279 all kinds of I mean, I think there really are 271 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.360 all kinds of different things that have just factored into 272 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.600 this being such a rare and special season. And we've 273 00:12:56.600 --> 00:12:58.399 talked about a lot of them. But one that I 274 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:00.600 just don't think you can emphasize and enough is that 275 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:05.240 these are grown ups. These are mature men that you know, 276 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:09.360 they play their experience and their maturity not only as 277 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:12.440 individuals but as players like that's how you were able 278 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:15.799 to go eighteen and two, and you know, even though 279 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:17.320 it's against the team a lot of teams that aren't 280 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:19.039 going to be in the tournament, you didn't have but 281 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:21.559 one slip up where you actually lost. Because these guys 282 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:24.600 do the little things. They watch film, They know the 283 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:27.679 teams they play aren't making the tournament. They know that 284 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:30.559 they were really expected to win and expected to sometimes 285 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:32.480 win big against a lot of teams they played in, 286 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:34.840 played against every night in the league. But they were 287 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:36.960 still taking the floor as if it was a big 288 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:39.720 game and they could lose because again, I think it's 289 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:42.120 a reflection of the guy leading them, but also because 290 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:44.399 their maturity, Like I know, we're gonna have some young 291 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:46.960 guys on this team next year, and that's exciting, especially 292 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:49.080 a guy who's you know, probably gonna be a top 293 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:51.360 ten draft pick when it's all said and done. But 294 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:55.639 I would hope that Pat Kelsey was able to really 295 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:58.960 learn from this that there's you know, you got guys 296 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:01.200 that can play. That's really the most important thing. Talent, 297 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:02.600 guys that can fit what you want to do, all 298 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:04.639 that kind of stuff that matters a lot. But man, 299 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:08.519 I selfishly would love to see more guys that are 300 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:10.519 you know, that are on the older side, that transfer 301 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:13.399 here for one, maybe two years, because I think their 302 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:16.399 maturity will make them one appreciate being here a little 303 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:19.600 bit more. And you know, I just think it's a 304 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:23.039 good recipe. And one of the things Pat Kelsey talked 305 00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:24.360 about and we got to get a break into a moment, 306 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:27.039 one of the things Pat Kelsey talked about on Saturday 307 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:31.240 that really really stood out to me was, you know, 308 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:33.600 he gets asked the same thing a lot of coaches 309 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:35.840 get asked when you're in that situation where you're finishing 310 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:37.759 with that league. REP mean, you're you're supposed to win 311 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:40.120 a lot of these games that you win, and so 312 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:42.759 he'll get questions about the tournament and about seeding and 313 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:44.759 all that. And I think what he says is the truth. 314 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:46.159 It's what a lot of coaches say, and I'm sure 315 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:47.200 a lot of them are telling the truth. But with 316 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:48.879 Pat Kelsey, I think it's quite obvious that like he 317 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:51.519 doesn't think about any game until it's the next game. 318 00:14:51.559 --> 00:14:53.519 Like it's a corny thing a coach would say, but 319 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:55.720 him telling you that the next game, whoever it's against, 320 00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:58.080 if it's against Duke or if it's against Spaulding, it's 321 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:00.600 the most important game in the history of a basketball 322 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:02.360 because it's the next one. Like, I think that's truly 323 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:05.840 something that they embrace and that's the philosophy that they have, 324 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:09.240 you know, So that's that's that's really really important. But 325 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:13.320 Pat was asked about something about the future and he said, look, 326 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:14.919 I think we're gonna lose every game. 327 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:15.559 He said. 328 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:18.200 My coaches will will laugh at me when they if 329 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:20.480 you ask him this. But and I'm paraphrasing here that 330 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:22.679 you know, he looks at film, he looks at everybody 331 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:26.200 they play and fears they're going to lose because not 332 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:28.120 he's down, not that he's not on his team, but 333 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:31.360 he just you know, he's gonna make sure he's well 334 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:33.080 aware that if he doesn't do what he needs to 335 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:35.360 do with his team and his guys, that this opponent, 336 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:38.360 you know, will beat you if you let him. And 337 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:41.759 you know, you never take anybody lightly, and that's hard 338 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:43.919 to maintain. And we'll see if he can do it. 339 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:46.320 You know, if he's here for twenty years and Louisville's 340 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:47.960 win in twenty five or more a year, then maybe 341 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:49.960 he does get complacent because you know, he's a human being, 342 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:53.879 but also like I think he really really really means that, 343 00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:55.679 and I think that's why he's been able to be 344 00:15:55.720 --> 00:15:57.840 successful at every level he's been at because he has 345 00:15:57.879 --> 00:15:58.639 a winning formula. 346 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:02.879 He is a leader, and the way he's done it 347 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:03.399 has worked. 348 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:06.679 And I think the real kicker, as far as you know, 349 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:09.480 can it work at a higher level than Charleston and Winthrop. 350 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:11.960 I just think there's now things in place to where 351 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:15.840 that adjustment period is not going to be what it 352 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:19.279 used to be because the things that you know used 353 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:21.399 to need, like a larger than life personality, a lot 354 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:23.600 of charisma to walk into a living room and recruit 355 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:26.360 a young man and have him come and play for you, Like, 356 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:28.519 you still need to do those things right, like recruit, 357 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:31.240 but money does most of the work right. And if 358 00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:33.440 these guys approach it like, hey, I'm paid to be here, 359 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:35.399 it's a job, you know, you don't really have to 360 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:37.960 manage the egos quite as much because even if these 361 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:40.879 guys end up not playing the minutes that they want 362 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:45.399 to play, they're still getting paid. But anyways, there's a clear, 363 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:49.039 comfortable fear that Pat Kelsey has of losing to everybody 364 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:52.120 that I think keeps him with an edge that again 365 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:55.000 makes him really successful. You always got to have a 366 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:58.000 comfortable fear of everything, not to be a philosopher, but 367 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:03.720 a comfortable fear of losing everything you have. It'll make 368 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:05.240 you live in the moment. It'll make you appreciate what 369 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:07.000 you have and not take it for granted. And then 370 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:10.519 also it'll also allow you to maintain an edge to 371 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:13.599 the you know, maintain the same kind of work havoit 372 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:18.759 the work ethic that got you where you are. Anyways, 373 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:20.480 it was corny, but I'm just telling I'm just being 374 00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:23.319 honest with you. I see, I now know why before 375 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:25.519 Pat coach to game, all these businesses that had him 376 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:27.440 come in and speak, because you know, he's trying to 377 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:30.119 revive not just Louisville basketball fans, but this city. Right 378 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:32.440 he wants to make an impression on business leaders and 379 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:34.920 whatnot in the community. And I mean before he coached 380 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:36.480 the game, before he put the roster together, there were 381 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:38.960 people like, I heard this guy talk. You have to 382 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:41.319 listen to him, like he's he's he's phenomenal. And I 383 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:42.759 was like, yeah, I heard his pres commerce. They're like, no, 384 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:45.400 it's it's way. It gets way better than that like, 385 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:47.519 I'll take your word for it, and sure enough, again, 386 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:51.160 this success they've had so far, his leadership, it's the 387 00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:52.240 it's the root of it. 388 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:53.559 All right, quick break will come back. 389 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:55.599 On the other side, we'll talk about Scotty Davenport who's 390 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:57.359 decided to uh to retire. 391 00:17:57.759 --> 00:17:58.599 Bittersweet for me. 392 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:01.799 And speaking of coach, the ACC has already made a 393 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:03.720 couple of highers and we'll see how they work out. 394 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:07.480 But I want the ACC to not suck anymore in 395 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:09.640 basketball and some of the hires that have been made 396 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:12.279 in some of the decisions to retain some of these coaches. Currently, 397 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:16.039 I'm not super confident we're going to be back anytime 398 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:17.200 soon meeting the ACC. 399 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:19.720 Stick around right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. 400 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:23.839 Now back to coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on 401 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:25.599