Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn. Let's
let's from a championship backfield to your morning drive.
Speaker 2: Hands to Hester and Hester.
Speaker 1: Got it, Fata, You're locked in to Off the Bench
Brack to troll live from the Raising Kine Studio. Here's
Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 3: James, what man?
Speaker 4: Oh t B I think it's finally Friday. God, it
took forever. We are here a long time and I had.
Speaker 5: Two days off.
Speaker 4: Yeah. What in the world, Oh my gosh, it's Friday.
Jake Flynn and Landra Cassie here with you. T g
I F as the kids used to say, and.
Speaker 3: They don't still say it. That probably not, that's the
nineties thing. Probably so got t g I f was.
Speaker 5: Are there still some t g I Fridays? Remember Fridays? Yeah, yes,
you still have them.
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 4: Maybe like a couple not a ton, not a ton.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: At the store, the ap game was tear we were
talking about t g IF. As far as the ABC
lineup on Friday nights.
Speaker 3: We're talking about you do you are you familiar with
this family matters? Familiar with ABC's game back in the
late nineties, No, no, yeah, Boy Meets World step by step,
day by day, day by Yeah, Family Matters is on
there too. I'm pretty sure it matters. I'm trying to
think of the fourth one. Sorry, can't do it. Probably
America is funny. Some videos leading up to six point thirty,
right before TJF started at seven with Bob saggett oh yeah, yeah, Legend,
full House at full House, full.
Speaker 4: House of Family Matters, Boy Meets World, step by Step,
and Sabrina the Teenage Witch.
Speaker 5: I still love Sabrina the Teenage Witch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we forget full House. That's on us now. I
got it right before you said it. I got there.
I got there via America's fund, his own videos and
Bob sag.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we got there perfect. Strangers used to be
on there too, Strangers I don't remember that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll see the guys. Oh yeah, if you you know,
got into my head. If you had asked me to
do Sabrina the Teenage Witch, I would have said Nickelodeon
for some reason. But that was the same actress, I believe,
just she was explaining it all. Clarissa, Yeah, oh Clarissa, Yeah,
good names are kid Clarissa. Her parents.
Speaker 5: Don't know many Clarissa's Is that Clarissa Thompson.
Speaker 3: Clarissa Thompson named after Clarissa explained it all. Yeah, that
show that was that was kind of a thinking back
on it, kind of a creepy show.
Speaker 5: I would like sneak in Clarissa Thompson's that. No, that's
but what's the boxer's name? Shields? That's what it is,
Clarissa's shields. All right, there we go, there are Clarissa's.
Speaker 3: I don't think we found our way there? Taylor quit?
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, did he tell you were just Matt?
Speaker 3: I ain't tell me. He told me.
Speaker 5: He only told Matt.
Speaker 3: Where was he? It must have been a hallway combo.
He had to do something this afternoon.
Speaker 5: No, used to leave early, so I asked him this,
so good.
Speaker 3: Deed, I got you.
Speaker 6: Well, Good morning, Cassie, Good morning Cassie.
Speaker 3: Well how early did you wake up and start prepping?
Speaker 5: I woke up at five thirty? Yeah, she has so
many of them.
Speaker 3: Okay, how do you feel about the L s U
lat Ull game the other night?
Speaker 5: What kind of see?
Speaker 3: Only got three minutes? We only got three minutes.
Speaker 5: I can't talk more than three minutes.
Speaker 3: All right, just kidding, okay, well two fifty nine of it.
Speaker 4: Actually, Cassie could probably give us pretty good breakdown because
she's had to probably hear hunt yap about it for
a couple of days.
Speaker 3: That's true, it's.
Speaker 6: A fair point. Yeah, just a nice breakdown.
Speaker 3: How you doing, buddy? If you're watching the YouTube right now,
it's literally not the same shirt. It's not different more blue,
not even close.
Speaker 5: It looks the same on camera, but they are different shades.
Speaker 4: They are both Pancho, they are they are both the
same hoodie.
Speaker 3: Just because like they might look the same under these
uh studio lights from you line, but they're not. You
got some good stuff that was not a shot at
you line changed everything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're super bright, super bright.
Speaker 3: I like that key chain too, Thank you. M Anyway,
I interrupted, I asked you how you're doing? I interrupted you.
It's Friday, though, Like your energy is way above where
it was yesterday. Yes, today it was craph Like I
don't like friend of friend teammates to teammate. You gotta
call it, you gotta gotta be there. I can't just
tell you the positive. Gotta be constructive. Yeah, energy is low.
We'll see how long it lasts. Well you got it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's what's Friday, you know you see the finish line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, with all due respect, with all der respect, let
me hate on you quick, no offense.
Speaker 3: Your energy sucked.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm doing the four hour show in
the afternoon and just a lot going on professionally, so
you know, a lot of stress.
Speaker 3: Fine, if you think about it, it's not big man.
Don't sweat the small stuff pretty big and the next
part of that saying is everything small stuff big picture.
Speaker 6: Okay, never heard that one. Ye, thank you for enlightening me.
Speaker 3: You're we're welcome. Where's the libby? That's what the small
stuff people?
Speaker 6: Yeah, still got another show, another four hour show after.
Speaker 4: This that third hour. Huh, don't get holler at you. Yeah,
on your back, you're tire bo. Yeah, I am all.
Speaker 3: Right, alrighty talking about these football teams.
Speaker 4: Not I can kind of do it, you know whatever,
just you know the extra hour AnyWho, No, it cares
about that.
Speaker 3: How you doing? You should get one of those uh
those little walking treadmills that's UNDERDSK treadmills.
Speaker 5: Oh you should.
Speaker 4: I wanted that, But I don't think you can, like
you can work and do that like you can give
like a zoom meeting and do that, But I don't
know that you can host a radio show doing that.
Speaker 6: No, just uh, I got a big old feet and
it's just doing this.
Speaker 3: Yeah you hit it a break.
Speaker 5: Yeah I could.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. They also have those under desk like uh,
little petals like riding a bike. Not really, but like
you just pad a little bit. Yeah it would be
that would be pretty quiet.
Speaker 6: While am I working out again?
Speaker 3: Stops you if I'm getting tired, I don't. I'm just trying
to help buddy, trying to help the NFL listeners out there.
Speaker 4: Oh, they're getting the takes. To worry about that getting
those takes, Huh, I'm getting. I love that they are.
Speaker 3: I got a good NFL take for you today, not
this segment. See these notes. Green and pink today. The
green and pink are today the most I've ever seen
on that paper I read. I can't read that chicken scratch, Olandra,
how you doing doing great? The bangs hair done on
a Friday, It's.
Speaker 5: Actually not done. The bangs are the only thing that
are done. The last two days. My hair was done.
I had it straight right now, I washed it, so
it's not straight anymore affair.
Speaker 3: That's that's the only thing that you can see in
front of the just the bank, the headphones.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, sometimes I don't feel like doing.
Speaker 6: Them feels like a commitment.
Speaker 3: Literally, they don't have to do anything. Yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 6: Feels like bans are like it's a commitment.
Speaker 3: And so I had.
Speaker 5: Them for a while, like a couple of years ago.
Maybe I had them for a while and then I
grew them out because I was like over it, and
then I got current banks, and now I'm back to
these people care about.
Speaker 3: I feel like the bangs are kind of like a
full brimmed cap or hat or a fanny pack or
something like that, Like you either wear it or they
wear you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta wear it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta wear with confidence.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I wear bangs. They don't wear me.
Speaker 3: Like you got to. You have to wear with confidence.
You got to own it because you'll get owned yeah
real fast. Kind of like you know, that's what I say.
A full brimmed cap for a guy, A full brim
like Cam Newton hats.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, but I feel like.
Speaker 3: We Cam Newton like crazy hats for guys. They could
wear you real fast, right if you don't own it.
You got to own that hat.
Speaker 5: I know Cam owns it, but I still feel like
the hats wear him. They're ridiculous.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: And then he cuts the hole off the top of them.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but like you ever seen like one
of those hats on like a beta male. Yeah, true,
Like it doesn't look good. You're like, no, take that
hat off.
Speaker 5: Your dork, or like the paper boy hats.
Speaker 3: The paper boy hats doesn't look good.
Speaker 6: But but paper like the peaky blinder hat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could tell. The guys that walk down the
street that wear him, You're like, they're owning it. They're
wearing a confidence and those guys that aren't real sure
about it. But a beta's friend of their wife made
to put it on. And I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of like, wait, that's like hipsters, like hipsters.
Speaker 6: What it's time changed this week?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: You spring forward, which is good. I love spring forward
more sunly.
Speaker 3: You need you that extra hour sleep.
Speaker 4: So what he's trying to say, Oh, oh, well, it's
not a well, it's not a well you have to
deal with me on Monday.
Speaker 5: On Sunday.
Speaker 3: I think it goes springs back to normal time, right.
Speaker 5: No daylight savings is I don't know, don't I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe an hour on normal time. This
is an hours sleep. Oh boy, here we go. Hey,
do you have any like sad violin music to play?
Right now?
Speaker 5: You can get it.
Speaker 3: It's okay, it's not a big deal. No, just want
to play.
Speaker 5: It right here, not off the top of my head.
Speaker 3: Now, okay, buddy, we're just having this good conversation about
hats wearing people and then.
Speaker 5: Sad killed your vibe.
Speaker 3: Oh, Jake, tell me about that sleep you're gonna miss.
Speaker 5: It's an hour.
Speaker 3: It's an hour.
Speaker 5: An hour gone, yeah, it is.
Speaker 4: It's an hour that I'll never ever get to achieve
the rest that I had when I had the hour.
Speaker 3: I do know that sleep professionals say that you can't
ever make up sleep that you miss. You can't get
it back. You can try, but you're not going to
get it back. I don't like, like Bain, Well, it'll
be dark in the morning. It's starting to get light
when I leave the house now. Just adopted the dark.
Speaker 6: I was molded in it.
Speaker 3: Oh no, this extra hour of talking got you like
all frazzled. Well, I hope that you're okay, get it together.
I hope that's going to be all right. You're acting
like if a door would absolutely.
Speaker 6: Where you right now, or would wear you where would
wear you?
Speaker 5: Don't put one on because it's not gonna look look
like a Jason Man. Oh yeah, Jason raz That fedora
was wearing.
Speaker 6: Him, honestly, Like I kind of made it his thing though,
Like you.
Speaker 3: Put that guy what's his name, the guy that played
Tommy Tommy.
Speaker 6: Shelby Killian Murphy, Murphy.
Speaker 3: You put him in like a different role in.
Speaker 4: Respect to that guy, just one best actor, incredibly handsome.
Speaker 3: Put him in a different role where he's got to
play a beta male and he's not looking good in
the Fedora, but you make him act like Tommy Shelby.
My god, I can't see him anything else, think about it.
I'd rather just see him in the other hat. Mhmm.
Speaker 6: Rather the paper boy had Yeah, what other have? The
paper paper.
Speaker 3: With the razor blade in it. Yeah, That's what I'm
talking about. You said for door, I meant, I meant paperway. Well,
you screwed this up, all right, We'll get to like
sports and stuff. I think I complain in about an
hour of sleep. Never seen You've never come off so weak.
Speaker 4: I don't care. I'm not this week. We'll see it
in a little bit. I want to break.
Speaker 1: Off the bench.
Speaker 3: Go tome g a u X Tommies for little Y.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, dude, clearly see the difference.
Speaker 3: When you go to the website. Okay, go to go
Tommies dot Com. Yeah, gallery of work, the whole deal.
Speaker 4: You can see past live results, you can customize your
job for you.
Speaker 6: You can see the awards they win year after year
after year.
Speaker 4: Best Windows in ben Rouge in The Advocate in twenty
twenty five that went to Tommy's Windows Doors Insiding. So
go to the website today, see what they can do
for you. G E a u X Tommy's dot com s.
Speaker 3: Right, go to go Tommy's dot com. I know you've
got a lot of options out there in Louisiana. So
if you've got a project happen and make sure you
give Tommy's a call. Let them show you, let them
prove to you why they do win those awards every
single year since two thousand and sixteen. Because when you
work with Tommy, you're gonna clearly see the difference. Go
to go Tommies dot com, Go Tommy's dot Com.
Speaker 7: All right, yeah, well I must that is. I can't
explain it any song racing do my brain? True? I
remember you? All right?
Speaker 3: Something wrong?
Speaker 2: What is?
Speaker 7: The actors?
Speaker 3: Eat up?
Speaker 7: God baby, I'm.
Speaker 1: Hollering tigers turn talkers. This is off the bench.
Speaker 4: All right, welcome back here O TV here live from
the Raising Kines Studio. Let's go ahead and get this
show started.
Speaker 1: It's time to get glowing courtesy of Go flow ivy
spa where hydration vitamins and a summer ready glow are
always on tap.
Speaker 4: Now for starters, all right, go to go flowiv dot com.
G e a uxflowiv dot com. Two two five nine
five three eight one five zero is the number. McCall
walk through the list of different ivs that they have
that they can offer, that can help you with whatever
you're dealing with, or if you just want to stay refreshed,
if you want to be hydrated, go see them right
off of Jefferson Highway here in Baton Rouge Go flowiv
dot com.
Speaker 3: Friday's uh heck of a day to go get an IV,
especially if you've never done it before. Go see how
good it makes you feel. It's called like a little
proactive hydration, little proactive vitamin getting ready for the weekend,
especially if you got maybe a little party happening, maybe
a little hangout, maybe a little ladies night, fellas night,
whatever it is. Maybe go go be proactive. Go get
you an IV right there, go flow IV right on
Jefferson Highway. You can be in and out. Get you
an account set up if you've never been there before,
get your account set check out their membership packages. Get
an IV, be be in and out about thirty forty
five minutes. It's awesome, it really is. That's not just
slip service. Get hydrated, to get vitamin as a go
flow ivy.
Speaker 4: All right, as we get the show started, and we
are going to do so with Cam Jordan being a
free agent when the new league year begins next week,
Cam gonna be a free agent for the first time
in his career. He has played fifteen seasons and he
is a Saints franchise sac leader.
Speaker 3: He did that years ago. He has one hundred and
thirty two career sex.
Speaker 4: As we all know, his contract is automatically void if
he does not have a new deal in place before the.
Speaker 3: New league year.
Speaker 4: Begins at four pm Eastern Time on Wednesday, So if
that happens, as Saints will absorb eighteen point seven to
six million of dead money against their twenty twenty six
salary cap. If the Saints eye him to a new
contract after that deadline, the dead money from the previous
contract and any money from the new contract would both
count against the salary cap. Now, if you remember, we
were reworked his contract last year, so it decreased his
base pay while adding some incentives for sacks and playing time.
Cam did max out those incentives of two million dollars
for sacks and finished the season with ten and a
half sacks, and that's the most he's had since the
twenty twenty one season. He mentioned in January, So go
back a couple of months that he ain't doing that again.
So no more similar deal as he had a year
ago with incentives. He crushed those incentives and had ten
and a half sacks. So it's looked like it in
the past before. There's been times where it's like, man,
I don't know, Man, okay, this is going to be
it for Cam in New Orleans.
Speaker 6: I know he said he wants to finish in New Orleans.
Speaker 3: But with him having ten and.
Speaker 4: A half sacks, he feels like he's owed much more
than anything. It feels like the Saints are willing to
offer and we could see Cam Jordan leave New Orleans
and finish his career somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's and from his side of things, he's
certainly right. From the Saint side of things, that's, yeah,
you're being ultra productive, and you've been a fantastic face
for our franchise and an ambassador for the Saints and
a great player and someone that's certainly overachieved every contract.
They're probably also saying, you know, we got to give
contracts to what you're going to do, not what you did.
And it's fifteen year vet, right, fifteen years, So how
many more elite years does he have? I mean, we
said the same thing for a couple of guys with
the Saints this year on defense who just keep on playing,
keep on playing like they're twenty five. And so I
think Saints fans, of course, you would want him to
put on that uniform. And it just because he's going
to test free agency doesn't mean he's not going to
be a Saint this year. Let's go ahead. He didn't
say I'm leaving the Saints. I'm gonna test this free
agent mark. I've never done it before. Let's see what
we're gonna get. I don't like what's being offered. I
don't know what else is out there, but I feel
like my production is still at a level that I
can garner more money and get more of what I
believe I deserve. Now, somebody is worth something that whatever
somebody's gonna pay for, that's the value. So we will see,
we will see what when that league year opens, what
other teams really think of camp Jordan, And maybe not
of what they think of him, because I think he's
very well thought of. I'm just saying about future production, what.
Speaker 6: They believe in the NFL in Sacks.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's incredible, it's incredible what that guy's doing.
Fifteen years into the league.
Speaker 4: He had more than Max Crosby, he had more than
Chase Young, he had more than Bradley Chubb, he had
more than Leatu Latu, Josh Hines, Allen Dallas, Turner yea.
Speaker 3: And not only that production, but what he gives to
you in the locker room as well. TJ. Watt. Yeah,
and I don't know. I mean, I like Nick under
how would be way more suited to tell us about
like what the Saints should be able to afford and
how they can fit him. It's easy to see you
the Saints paying whatever you need to. It's came Jordan.
It's easy to say that from our seats because there's
always gymnastics that you can do with the salary cap.
Speaker 4: But in Saints have I mean you go back two days,
they were eleven million over and now.
Speaker 3: They got twenty to spend.
Speaker 4: They restructure Chase Young's deal, which we'll get to in
a little bit, so they've got money to spend.
Speaker 3: We would love to see him in the Saints uniform.
We love to see him continue there, but he's going
to test the waters. And I say good for him.
I mean I especially guys that have been such a
good ambassador for you, a good leader like we. Youve
got to hope the best for those guys at some
point in your career, like man, go get yours, go
get like what you deserve, Go get everything that you've earned.
And maybe that is still with the Saints. We will
see maybe the market for a thirty six year old
fifteen going into sixteenth year, Like Vetter, maybe that market
won't command what's somebody like, uh, Trey Henderson. Trey Henderson
will command like which just because of an age thirty one? Yeah,
I believe it will be thirty one.
Speaker 4: During the season, Camp's quote was, the Saints have done
nothing but show that they want me to be here
now at what price? Some would say half off this
last year. Can't do that again was the exact quote
when he said.
Speaker 3: I think we can all understand that, we we canna
all get it now. You don't want like as a player,
especially when you are established and you've shown here and
you're out. You're a hell of a teammate, a hell
of a ambassador for your city, your franchise. Like you
don't want to keep having to play in hit incentive
based deals, right, Like you don't want to have to
be in that game, that seventeenth game of the year,
trying everything, like to get a sack, to get paid
what you should have got paid just when you signed
the contract.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you're out there and thinking there's no
way he can replicate that that was just a flash
in the pan, I tell you, well, the tape kind
of tells a different story. And I also tell you
remember he had a new defensive coordinator and Brandon Saley,
So he found a coordinator that got ten and a
half sacks out of him and ten out of the
guy on the other side, Chase Young.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that was like unlock some pass rush.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I like having him on the opposite side of Chase.
You only he he did a lot of this without
Chase Young there. Now with the emergence of him, his
performance I can only I can only see his performance
going up. Yeah. So there's no question to me that
he is absolutely you know right in the situation. Go test,
Go see what you can get at least hold the
Saints to handle the fire a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And again though, like the thing that's going to be
troublesome is we talked about, the contract will automatically void
if he does not have a new deal in place
before the new league year begins, and that is four
pm Eastern time on Wednesday. So if the Saints signed
him to a new contract after that deadline, the dead
money eighteen point seventy six from the previous contract. In
any money from the new contract, we both count against
the salary cap. So basically they have until Wednesday three
pm local.
Speaker 3: It's not I don't know how contracts work like at
that deep, at that depth, but like, if you're gonna
have eighteen hit your salary cap, if you don't get
a deal done, why don't you just offer him eighteen
for him to be there? I don't know how it works,
but that's say really Layman's interpretation of this whole situation.
Speaker 4: Layman's Layman's Layman, I'm American, You're gonna have eighteen hit.
Speaker 3: I'd have to. I'd have to. We'd have to phone
a friend on this one. What's the difference?
Speaker 4: You know, you're saying, like, if just give him the money,
it's gonna count against the cap.
Speaker 3: Anyways. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. Yep.
Speaker 4: So it would be uh, it would be kind of
sad to see Cam Jordan play for anybody else. I
totally get for the player why he would want to maybe,
you know, test the market because again, he was thirteenth
in the National Football League in sacks, he had more
sex than a lot of people were.
Speaker 3: Making a lot more money.
Speaker 4: He gave you a team free friendly deal to be
able to go out there and prove that under the
new regime, that.
Speaker 6: He could still play at a very high level. He
did that and then some.
Speaker 4: So for Cam, as much as he loves New Orleans
and he's he talked about it a ton, he's got
to go do what's best for him as well.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, lay man, lay man.
Speaker 5: Like man, did you say hand to the fire?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Said hands the fire?
Speaker 5: Hold your feet?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I get it, but.
Speaker 5: Like, hey, hey, the ridings on the table, we know'd.
Speaker 3: But like, have you ever had your handheld near fire?
It's brutal. I would say it's even worse than the feet.
That's why I said it.
Speaker 6: Or Jordan, what if Cam signed with the Falcons?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, can you imagine?
Speaker 3: I don't think you did that. What if he did?
Speaker 4: Though, their edge rusher they drafted last year is in
a little bit of some legal trouble off the field?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what if he signed with I mean, he's out
signed with the Falcon What if he did? Though? Say
about all the teams? What if he signed back with
the Saints for eighteen million dollars already? All right?
Speaker 4: Well, as I mentioned, the Saints did make some moves.
The Saints, I'm texting Nick, are now under the cap.
They were evan over I believe even yesterday. Now they're
twenty under. We'll tell you how they got there when
we come back.
Speaker 3: O TV.
Speaker 2: Off the Bench.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven Champs Purple and Gold to the Core.
This is Off the Bench with Hester and Flynn Baton,
Rouge's go to for all things Louisiana sports.
Speaker 2: Lived.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in OTB.
Speaker 4: Always gonna remind you bet our friends over at rejuven
Me rejuven me Medical dot com. I need to feel
like your youthful self like you once did when you
had that first step that was a little bit quicker
than it is now.
Speaker 3: Oh a little quick twitch, you know, a little quick twitch.
Speaker 4: Go see our friends over at juven Me Medical locations
throughout the state of Louisiana. No matter where you're listening
to us up in the Port City, three one eight
three one grade does not matter.
Speaker 6: We're talking to youth throughout the state.
Speaker 4: Go see them today, get your blood drawn, see what's
going on inside of your body. And if there's something
going on that you need help with, well guess what
they're gonna get you on a plan for success for
Juvenian Medical.
Speaker 3: Yeah, whether it's like weight loss, whether it's cosmetic, whether
it is this overall wellness hormone replacement. They've been Louisiana's
leader in hormone replacement therapy for over ten years now.
So if you're gonna do it, make sure you don't
know the best. Make sure it's medical supervised and it's
not just Remember if you were thinking about getting that
extrabusive energy, if you're thinking about doing starting a hormone
replacement therapy, make sure you're not going somewhere that's like
just about making sure like your high testosterone. It's not
about that. It's just about normalizing your body on what
it should be feeling like you should be feeling and
getting that energy back, getting the zest for life back.
So go check them out with juvei me medical dot com.
Speaker 4: All right, here is some of the moves that have
gotten the Saints where they have some moolah to spend
cash money. So once we've talked about we're structured. Juwan
Johnson converted part of his nine million dollar base salary
into bonus, which we see all the time. So you've
got several millionaire you've got Justin Reed converted part of
his nine point twenty five million salary to bonus cap
savings of around six and a half million dollars a
little bit under six and a half million dollars. They
were structured Chase Young's deal, a part of his fourteen
point eight million dollar base salary into signing bonus. They
saved almost eleven million dollars in.
Speaker 3: That move alone.
Speaker 4: So we've seen the Saints obviously kicked the can down
the road for a long time.
Speaker 3: That's three players there.
Speaker 4: You make some changes, you convert salary into signing bonus,
and now you get some room to breathe and you
got a little bit of money to spend. Saints right now,
let's see it cleared thirty million, about thirty million, a
little bit over thirty million dollars, so they're going to
have some wiggle room to be able to bring some
people in add to this roster. I wish I would
have been one of those players that said, hey, we're
just going to convert all this to signing bonus and
you get it tomorrow.
Speaker 6: That had been cool. Yeah, i'd been nice. It was
a fun. Dil did you have that you turn?
Speaker 3: God? I hate you go ahead to make for Charles
Woodson in Oakland? So all right, I'd pay a lot
of California, Texas. Yeah you did, so, I think to yep,
it is all right, So walk us through it as
a player.
Speaker 4: Walk us through those conversations, walk us through who comes
to you, walk us through what your agent's telling you
to do, pros cons.
Speaker 3: It was pretty easy. I was in the facility and
I knew we were trying to get Charles Woodson. My
agent calls me and says, hey, they want to restructure
your contract to a bonus and you'll get league minimum
yeah as your salary. And I was like, awesome, he's
all right, go ahead and head upstairs. And I went
and signed it like four minutes later, that quick. That quick,
it was already negotiated when like when he called me,
because it's like you're not going to say no to that,
so like the contract is already drawn. I got traded
to Oakland.
Speaker 4: Correct, They paid off the rest of the Seattle deal
with this was the second year for the second year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like that was like my when I signed
with Seattle, that was the signing bonus, right, you got
your signing bonus plus the salary. Yeah, then your second
year is all salary. There is no more bonus to it.
So I had a second year's salary in Oakland, which
they traded for and then it got restructured. So the
third year was there was a three year contract originally
in Seattle, but third year, like second and third year
had second year had some guarantees. Yeah, third year had nothing,
nothing guaranteed. It was like the third year would have
been the biggest one of the but it was not.
It was had zero dollars guaranteed. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: So they took my second year and they just restructured
the whole thing, converted it all to a like a
just a re signing bonus.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I got league minimum as the salary. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So like in the season, those checks weren't fun, but
that when you signed initially it was fun.
Speaker 3: Super fun. So I read the bottom line the second
about of mine, Uncle Sam and uncle California.
Speaker 4: Sun tax in California's like, oh my god, whether it's
not that good.
Speaker 3: You don't like paying more than you make? I don't.
I don't like paying more to make, like four more
than I make.
Speaker 4: Yeah, remember the year hit all my incentives, every every
incentive I had in my rookie deal, like going to
my four year hit them All Player Performance, Pro Bowl voting,
all of it. Right, So for a full back, it's
public record, Like I don't really care I made one
point four. Yeah, I was like yeah, because I was
a league minimum guy. Like I got a nice signing
bonus being a third round pay, but I was a
league minimum guy. So like when I hit all that,
it's like the first time it wasn't league minimum. And
I do remember like getting the check and like the
anticipation of like seeing it and then looking and seeing
that you paid.
Speaker 3: More than you paid. I mean it's like, you know,
like christ River, right, right, I know, but it's still
it's still it's still not fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you see that you've given the government more
than they've given you, it's not fun no matter how
much money.
Speaker 3: Let me, I'll tell you, Okay, I'll share. This is
a vulnerable job. Right, we share a lot about ourselves
that we normally wouldn't. I'll share something else that was
actually so during that bonus when I get restructured to
a bonus at that time, and this is out worked everywhere,
Like your salary in the NFL is where you play football,
so like you pay taxes where you pay football, So
like if you are let's just say you're you play
for the Cowboys, you have no state income tax. But
if you fly to La to play the Rams for
that week's check, you pay California taxes for that week
because you worked in California that week. So your taxes
are pretty robust at the end of the year because
you're filing taxes in like ten different states, fifteen different
states whatever it is, right because you worked in those states.
So at for a long time the NFL, I don't
know how it is now, certainly not in the California,
but like if you got converted to a bone, you
could pay taxes on your bonus wherever you claimed residency.
So I just came from Seattle, where I spent the year. Right,
Seattle or Washington has no state, no state tax. So
I spent more than half the year in Seattle. The
year I got traded, we had our house, I was
registered to vote there, like everything was like everything was
buttoned up. So at the time I paid no state
income tax on that converted bonus, which was like fourteen percent. Yeah,
well twenty like seventeen or eighteen comes around California revenue.
This comes afterward they did a they did a tax
grab on athletes, performers, musicians, actors, all people that had
bonuses that didn't live in California that got paid and
did the same thing. And they did a cash grow
and the first person that appealed it lost the president everybody.
And like, talking about a check I had to write
that was you know, money already spent or invested or whatever,
straight cash Ooh yeah yeah, heavy six figs, no doubt. Yeah,
this is like five years after the fact, right my head,
this is like, this is like five years after the fact. Yeah.
Speaker 6: It was very and those checks aren't coming every two
weeks like they were. It was very heartbreaking. Yeah, I
might cry for you.
Speaker 3: I just wrote a check into the whole hydration game. No, no,
So it was fun A little little insight. There's a
vulnerable job.
Speaker 6: Who's the guy that lost it from the very beginning.
Speaker 3: I don't know. He's really a hell though. Yeah that
guy sucks. Get your better attorney. Geez m, little cash
graft from California. So like when I say I don't
like California, there's a good reason. You do. Have a
deep pay for him. Well it's trash fight.
Speaker 4: Look, also have a hate for paying taxes and places.
We spent thirty six hours in sucks. Any who's I'll
tell you get under the cap. You say, hey, your
salary is gonna be ten million. What if we make
it a million, but we give you the other nine
right now today probably tomorrow, could have checked tomorrow.
Speaker 3: That sounds fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So every player is going to do it because
they get guaranteed upfront right now money. Nobody's gonna turn
that down. So that's how it works. If the NFL
ever gets rid of that, like they make that where
you can't do that, everybody's in trouble. Everybody's in trouble.
Speaker 3: Every single everybody's racing to sign those deals, especially if
at the time you think you're gonna avoid some state
sales tax.
Speaker 8: A Lee, that's I mean, that's I'm sorry man, Hey,
it's okay, dude. That's water in the bridge seven years ago. Yeah, that,
but you paid for the bridge though.
Speaker 3: California is doing pretty good with all those taxes though
that they oh yeah, yeah, they're doing fine fiscally. Yes, yes,
they put it to good use. That the big gaff.
All right, we will take a break.
Speaker 4: More OTB when we come back live from the raising
kainstudy off the bench. If you're looking for a bank
that truly understands the Louisiana well, you need to check
out our friends over First American Bank and Trust. They've
been serving our communities for over one hundred years with
personal banking, business banking, home loans, and financial services designed
to help you reach your goals. So what's that's fabt
apart is their commitment to relationships. You're not just another
account number. Their team is local, experience and ready to help.
Whether you're opening up your first checking account, growing your business,
or planning for the future. Visit fabt dot com to
learn more, fabt dot com.
Speaker 3: Sor right First American Bank and Trust the local bank.
For more than one hundred years, they've helped Louisiana families homes.
They've helped Louisiana businesses grow, whether it's you need a
little working capital, you need to bring in some new employees,
whether you need some inventory, whatever it is, they've been
helping you and make sure you're doing with the bank
that's making local decisions, making common sense decisions right here,
not a national bank just looking at a spreadsheet. First
American Bank of Trust FABT dot com.
Speaker 1: The mirror, Simmis, It tells me it's a shid, but
not finished. From the locker room to the airwaves. Gets
off the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Carrying your shoes.
Speaker 7: Just once again. I was just dreaming.
Speaker 3: Now it's three.
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to change your mind. That's chilling.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's three in the morning Arctic
monkeys and yetn't changed the mind.
Speaker 3: Buddy, you just gotta go live to fight another day.
Speaker 5: I think you know, you gotta charge it to the game.
Speaker 7: I think, yeah, like.
Speaker 4: Three am my guy, Like I appreciate the battle. Yeah,
I appreciate the fight. The ball up top saving us
to tell us nothing good happens after midnight.
Speaker 3: If you can't if you can't get it in him
about midnight, ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 4: He actually used to say that, like, if you can't
seal the deal by midnight, it ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 3: It's not happening.
Speaker 5: That's great advice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what he used to say, that's true.
Speaker 5: That man, New Ball and Life.
Speaker 3: You go, Uh so is Pala? Oh my god, no
big deal.
Speaker 4: Pealogroup dot com is the website Pala has been in
the game since the seventies here in the Gulf Coast,
straight up balling all day or day, one hundred percent
employee owned. I've been telling you about him for months,
but I got some stuff going on, Like they're looking
for maybe you, maybe you're gonna be the next employee
that is onemployee owned part of PALA.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're a listener right now and like you
kind of want to work with the best, if you
have like the skills set that they're looking for. Wel,
there's pipe fitters, ironworkers, project managers, estimators, planners, quality control professionals.
If you've like industrial spirits and you are the best
and you're looking to work with the best, PALA is
absolutely rolling right now. Projects coming in the left and right,
major capital projects across the Gulf Coast, across the Midwest.
And like Jake just said, PALE is employee owned, so
they offer really competitive pay and real opportunity like to
move up that ladder and for career growth. So if
you want to work with the best, nobody is works
harder and better than PALA. For over fifty two years,
they've been building with confidence, building the Gulf Coast, building Midwest.
Whatever it is with a reputation for safety, quality craftsmanship
that stands the test to come. So go check them out.
Because of Pala, it's more than just construction. It's about
the people, employe owned, relationship driven PALA Group dot Com.
Speaker 6: All right, another segment, another New Orleans Saints restructured contract.
Our guy Nicko Underhill reports the Saints and Alvin Kamara
converted ten point one five five million of his salary,
but he says it was not the same standard conversion
that Justin Reed, Juwan Johnson, and Chase Young had. So
the Saints and Kamara have adjusted his contract, lowering his
cap number four twenty twenty six by eight million dollars.
So the way that they did it, it's not the
base salary to bonus conversion. Says it provides cat flexibility
if he's not with the team.
Speaker 3: Ooh okay, uh.
Speaker 4: M hm, Micky out here doing a lot of deals,
lots of deals, make lots of stuff.
Speaker 3: I mean it took him, it took him a few decades,
but he's really getting the hang of this thing. It
took forever really coming into his own though, finding his groove,
finding his stride. I don't know what's gonna happen with
camp Jeordan not trust Mickey, though.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm gonna go that far.
Speaker 3: What just trying to make sure our listeners are listening.
We was listening.
Speaker 4: So they have done a lot of work to now
have some available money to spend. So now the math
on the draft changes a little bit because you can
attack some of those things in free agency that we
just didn't think you're gonna have the money to be
able to go out there and attack. We weren't really
sure what that was going to look like. So it
you know, interior offensive line needs an upgrade. We've talked
about that for years, So now you can attack that
in free agency. You got to see where Alante Taylor
is a couple of different scenarios out from the New
Orleans Saints. But now that you do have the money
to spend, and you look, you're not gonna go out
there and you know, give thirty million dollars to a receiver,
But if you can upgrade your into your offensive line
with the money that you save, protect your young quarterback,
get rid of what you've had for years, it's been
really bad upfront at that position.
Speaker 6: And then you attack the draft and you get the
other stuff.
Speaker 4: But like, you can find some really good interior offensive
line in free agency, and we can explore some of
those names when we come back here on OTV.
Speaker 1: Off the Bench,