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Speaker 2: All right, here we go.
Speaker 3: Let's get it start at five o'clock on a Wednesday afternoon,
Speaker 3: a very very cold Wednesday. I mentioned this at the
Speaker 3: beginning of the show, and I know audience turns over
Speaker 3: quite a bit during drivetime radio, and I know a
Speaker 3: lot of people don't really get to get this thing
Speaker 3: started with us until five o'clock. So be careful one,
Speaker 3: because you know you should always be careful, and it's
Speaker 3: really cold, so make sure you layer up.
Speaker 2: But one thing, I mean, it makes sense.
Speaker 3: I just wouldn't have thought about it if I hadn't
Speaker 3: witnessed what I saw earlier today, these mounds of snow
Speaker 3: that have been shoveled to the sides of these streets,
Speaker 3: so we can, you know, drive on it. That's great,
Speaker 3: you know, despite us getting so much snow and despite
Speaker 3: it still being freezing, freezing outside, we can we can
Speaker 3: navigate through this city without a whole lot of issues.
Speaker 3: There's still clearly some areas that are that are not treated.
Speaker 3: Our man Austin, poor guy, his streets still just a
Speaker 3: big might as well be an ice skating.
Speaker 4: Rink, right nasty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's it's that cold to where if
Speaker 3: it didn't get addressed, these temperatures make it to where
Speaker 3: it's it's frozen solid in a major way.
Speaker 4: But I still haven't fell yet. I'm still I'm still like,
Speaker 4: keep that street going, keep that street going, you know me,
Speaker 4: I don't care about hurting myself. I just look like
Speaker 4: the reputation i'd get because now I'm a bigger guy,
Speaker 4: and it's always funny to see fat people fall. I
Speaker 4: know I do, But yeah, is that true? Like I don't, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I love it. It's hilarious because they fall in such
Speaker 4: hilarious motion I know firsthand.
Speaker 3: I guess there's some truth to that. Anyways, what I
Speaker 3: saw earlier, again it makes sense. I just have never
Speaker 3: seen it before. But because it's so cold outside and
Speaker 3: we've got, you know, just big mounds of snow on
Speaker 3: the sides of these roads on Second Street, the guy across,
Speaker 3: you know, the other way, the other direction of Second Street,
Speaker 3: he I guess slightly. I won't even I don't want
Speaker 3: to say he went off the road. But like, we
Speaker 3: don't even have full lanes in certain areas because they've
Speaker 3: just moved as much snow as they can. But his
Speaker 3: vehicle hit the You know, I would have expected him
Speaker 3: to just kind of run into snow to where it
Speaker 3: would clearly not be something that you want to do.
Speaker 3: But it was so frozen that it damaged his car,
Speaker 3: like cracked his front bumper. And again makes sense considering
Speaker 3: how cold it is. But we just this snowstorm that
Speaker 3: we had. Of course, it's the most snow we've had
Speaker 3: in a long time around here, and because we only
Speaker 3: got a buff freezing for just a little while, not
Speaker 3: all of it melted. And now we've got such cold
Speaker 3: temperatures that again there's just a lot of chunks of
Speaker 3: ice out there. I mean, in fact, I turned left
Speaker 3: on this was downtown. I turned left on and again
Speaker 3: I'm terrible with my streets. I got off. I was
Speaker 3: on Jacob Street, went up, took a right the light
Speaker 3: that is right where the McDonald's is downtown. You guys
Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about. I turned left there, and
Speaker 3: they clearly have treated the roads to where like there's
Speaker 3: no issue. But like if you you know the part
Speaker 3: that is not driven on quite as much in those intersections,
Speaker 3: like there's still some just build up. Then it's so
Speaker 3: cold that I hit what I just assume is just
Speaker 3: going to be like, you know, little ice, But you
Speaker 3: would have thought that, like I unexpectedly hit a humongous
Speaker 3: speed bump, Like that's how that's how frozen everything is.
Speaker 3: So stay warm, stay safe, and I'm sure we'll get
Speaker 3: some consistent temperatures above freezing before too long, which, of course,
Speaker 3: you know, we'll get all this stuff melted and out
Speaker 3: of the way. I'm not bothered by it a whole lot,
Speaker 3: even though it has kind of inconvenienced me a little bit.
Speaker 3: But I'm sure there's many of you that you know,
Speaker 3: hate the winter weather that cannot wait for this stuff
Speaker 3: to go away. So I'm sure you'll get your wishes
Speaker 3: before too long. If you were somebody wishing that Louisville
Speaker 3: basketball would come back to life this year and give
Speaker 3: us a season as fans that we can, you know,
Speaker 3: just be a part of and you know, follow along,
Speaker 3: have some wins that give you a belief that you
Speaker 3: could maybe make the tournament like things do. We haven't
Speaker 3: had a long time. I know I'm not the only
Speaker 3: one that was wishing for that in a major way,
Speaker 3: and so far our wish has come true. Louisville basketball
Speaker 3: is continuing to play really, really, really well. They went
Speaker 3: on the road last night up to Syracuse again, a
Speaker 3: team that you know is not good, but I don't care.
Speaker 2: Louisville was really good.
Speaker 3: And you know, they're on the road at a place
Speaker 3: that's not Syracuse and it's a really good team.
Speaker 2: Do they win? I don't know. Would clearly be very tough,
Speaker 2: but all you can do is.
Speaker 3: Play who's on the schedule. And they're showing up and
Speaker 3: kicking everybody's ass. I mean, pardon my language, but I
Speaker 3: mean that's what this team's doing. Jerry called earlier one
Speaker 3: of our callers, and he made a good point, and
Speaker 3: I was aware of this, but I hadn't really even
Speaker 3: given it much thought. Because I'm now seeing Louisville win
Speaker 3: by twenty plus against a bad Syracuse team, and yeah,
Speaker 3: it's enjoyable. The feeling that you get from it is awesome.
Speaker 3: But also I'm not really that surprised because again, they've
Speaker 3: been on a tear since they hit January. I mean,
Speaker 3: they lost to Kentucky on December fourteenth, and that was
Speaker 3: their last loss, and they beat Florida State, a solid win,
Speaker 3: a good win. By the way, that was the way
Speaker 3: where I'm feeling like, Okay, here's our first chance. You've
Speaker 3: got Florida State, who is decent. But if you really
Speaker 3: did get better during these losses to the good teams,
Speaker 3: the Ole Misses, the Dukes and the Kentucky's, if what
Speaker 3: I believe was true, the first sign of me potentially
Speaker 3: being able to be correct would be go on the
Speaker 3: road and beat Florida State. And they did, and that
Speaker 3: was great. Well, then they turned around a week later
Speaker 3: and lost or nearly lost to EKU. I mean, they
Speaker 3: were lucky. They were lucky to win that game. Credit
Speaker 3: to Noah Waterman for getting that bucket who came in
Speaker 3: a major. But like you should have lost, you didn't,
Speaker 3: and that's all that matters. But like, that was a
Speaker 3: close call, and at that point I'm thinking, Okay, let's
Speaker 3: just ride it out and see what happens.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: This team, I like them. They're fighting hard. I kind
Speaker 3: of feel like they're getting the most out of what
Speaker 3: they have and there's gonna be some games where maybe
Speaker 3: they play well and surprise you and win. But I
Speaker 3: wasn't accepting that the season was going to be terrible,
Speaker 3: but the Eku close call was clearly an issue. But
Speaker 3: since then January, for when they showed up to play
Speaker 3: North Carolina, I mean that is when something was just
Speaker 3: different about this team when it comes to their energy,
Speaker 3: their intensity defensively and look, they were pretty good in
Speaker 3: those areas, I feel like all year, but they have
Speaker 3: really found their groove.
Speaker 2: And what I think it is is.
Speaker 3: They are they've now gone through the transition to where
Speaker 3: now they have They've had enough repetition with this being
Speaker 3: the team that the idea, the roles for each guy
Speaker 3: has been identified and they these guys are more comfortable
Speaker 3: in what they're doing. They know they're capable of doing
Speaker 3: what is needed of them night in and night out
Speaker 3: for this team to be good, and and it's been.
Speaker 3: It's been a beautiful thing. I mean, right now Louisville
Speaker 3: is safely in the tournament, and I think they'd have
Speaker 3: to start showing us a team that we don't recognize
Speaker 3: for that to change. Currently, if you go to the
Speaker 3: kin Palm, which by the way, check this out Louisville
Speaker 3: since they're because the Eku game that was a metric
Speaker 3: that was a metric loss, meaning you didn't take the
Speaker 3: l but man, you were held accountable when it comes
Speaker 3: to the net and the kent Pong. So here here's
Speaker 3: Louisville's net situation since the EKU game. So at the
Speaker 3: time they played EKU, they were fiftieth Louisville was. They won,
Speaker 3: but only by two against an EKU team that's now
Speaker 3: two to twenty five in the kin Pom. So they
Speaker 3: dropped eight spots despite winning. So with wins over Carolina,
Speaker 3: I mean they look, they've won every game by double
Speaker 3: digits outside of the four point win against Pittsburgh, who,
Speaker 3: by the way, is the best team they've played since
Speaker 3: they played Kentucky as far as the numbers go, So
Speaker 3: Louisville when they started twenty twenty five against Carolina, they're
Speaker 3: sitting at fifty eight. As they sit today, they're thirtieth.
Speaker 3: So they've jumped up twenty eight spots in the kin Pom.
Speaker 3: And yes, I know these teams they're beating a lot
Speaker 3: of them aren' going to make the tournament. Florida State,
Speaker 3: no EKU, certainly, not North Carolina, probably Virginia, no, Clemson,
Speaker 3: probably Pittsburgh, yes, Syracuse hell no. So like I know
Speaker 3: all that but you know how you climb when you
Speaker 3: beat the hell out of these teams, and that's that's
Speaker 3: really what they've done. So they've got Virginia coming up
Speaker 3: on Saturday. They should win that win Again, the formula
Speaker 3: is starting to give you the you know, it's starting
Speaker 3: to show that it's noticing Louisll's playing really good basketball,
Speaker 3: because when they went on the road to Virginia, they
Speaker 3: end up winning by a lot twenty points to be exact,
Speaker 3: but that was a game they think. I think the
Speaker 3: formula hadn't win in by like four or five, maybe
Speaker 3: it might have even been less than that. And here
Speaker 3: we are now they're expect the formula has this as
Speaker 3: a seventy two to fifty eight win, a fourteen point
Speaker 3: win for Louisville, and I wouldn't be shocked if it's
Speaker 3: even uglier than that, because this team is mature and
Speaker 3: clearly they're playing good basketball. But they I think last
Speaker 3: night they knew they could really make Syracuse just quit.
Speaker 3: And I shouldn't say quit because quitting literally means you
Speaker 3: just don't play. I mean, they were out there, but
Speaker 3: many that's Syracuse team. I said it earlier, I'll say
Speaker 3: it again. They gave me some PTSD because it was
Speaker 3: nice to be on the good side of that. But
Speaker 3: was that looked like a Kenny Payne type team out there.
Speaker 3: They would show signs every now and that they actually
Speaker 3: have some decent players, not great players, but some guys
Speaker 3: that clear, like Sterling is a really good guard. The
Speaker 3: big fellow for Ques I've already forgotten his name, real
Speaker 3: big fella, Eddie Lampkin. He's been around a long time,
Speaker 3: like he's He's been a good player in college. Was
Speaker 3: a good, good guy who was a good player for
Speaker 3: Colorado one year when they made a run in the tournament.
Speaker 3: Chris Bell, good shooter who you know, lit up Louisville
Speaker 3: last year and then last night got hot brief you like,
Speaker 3: so again you see some stretches kind of like Louisvill
Speaker 3: last year. You would see Brandon Hunty Hatfield make a
Speaker 3: play and you think, wow, that guy, he's pretty good.
Speaker 3: You could see why he was a five star recruit.
Speaker 3: You look at Tyler Johnson at times, same thing. I mean,
Speaker 3: you could tell that you know, this team ain't great,
Speaker 3: They're not good, but man, they shouldn't.
Speaker 2: Be this bad.
Speaker 3: That's that's what Syracuse was so it was nice to
Speaker 3: be on the winning side of that, and that led
Speaker 3: to me kind of starting the conversation today because this
Speaker 3: was something if if Austin came to me yesterday, said
Speaker 3: Nick before the game, before the show, Fostin said, Nick,
Speaker 3: did you know that Kenny Payin's being paid more money
Speaker 3: to not coach Louisville than Pat Kelsey's getting paid to
Speaker 3: coach Louisville. I would have given it a brief thought
Speaker 3: that and said, yeah, I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: You're right, that's crazy. So that hasn't been something on
Speaker 2: my mind.
Speaker 3: But for some reason, I guess the PTSD of last
Speaker 3: night and just being so impressed with Pat Kelsey, you know,
Speaker 3: it is wild to process that, and that's really you know,
Speaker 3: if you want to blame somebody, I guess you can
Speaker 3: blame the the you know, the decision to hire Kenny Payne,
Speaker 3: but we don't want to. I mean, and clearly it
Speaker 3: was the wrong decision, but there's nothing beneficial and there's
Speaker 3: no need to even go back to that time. That
Speaker 3: was a long time ago. So again I don't bring
Speaker 3: it up to say we should be mad at somebody.
Speaker 3: It's just kind of crazy to process more so given
Speaker 3: how bad Kenny was in the contract he got and
Speaker 3: how good Kelsey's doing, so, I think it may have
Speaker 3: been perceived by some that I was acting as if
Speaker 3: Louisville like somebody like that they need to pay more
Speaker 3: money right now. And if they do, oh, I have
Speaker 3: no issue with it. It's not my money. And I
Speaker 3: think you're well aware that you've got Pat Kelsey on
Speaker 3: a really good rate for the Louisville job, but he's
Speaker 3: willing to invest in himself like Pat Kelsey probably would
Speaker 3: have taken the job for substantially less money because he's
Speaker 3: confident in what he brings to the table. I think
Speaker 3: he approached this with the mindset that is the right mindset,
Speaker 3: and so far, I think it's playing out exactly that way.
Speaker 3: I know I've got a formula as a coach, and
Speaker 3: I don't mean like his style. I mean I know
Speaker 3: what I bring to the table. I know how I
Speaker 3: how me and my staff work together. I know what
Speaker 3: I'm about. I believe in myself as a coach. I've
Speaker 3: been successful at everywhere I've been. If I can take
Speaker 3: what I bring and now add all the bells and
Speaker 3: whistles that you get at a place like Louisville that
Speaker 3: you don't have elsewhere, like Charleston and Winthrop.
Speaker 2: I think you would have taken the job. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm exaggerating here.
Speaker 3: We might have taken the job for free if he
Speaker 3: knew that he could show what he's worth and it
Speaker 3: could work out long term for him. So I don't
Speaker 3: think what was going to give the guy a new
Speaker 3: contract right now. If they did, I wouldn't be shocked,
Speaker 3: but I don't think they will. But at the end
Speaker 3: of the season, if this thing continues to be very successful,
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're going to be the one
Speaker 3: to initiate it. But if the agent of Pat Kelsey
Speaker 3: decides to say, look, clearly, we came in on a
Speaker 3: deal that made sense for everybody involved at the time,
Speaker 3: and we'd like to to see if we can maybe get,
Speaker 3: you know, an extension and a bump and pay. And
Speaker 3: I have no clue if Pat is the kind of
Speaker 3: guy to nudge his agent to do that. In fact,
Speaker 3: I'm not even really sure how it works. I've never
Speaker 3: had an agent. But maybe the agents just do it
Speaker 3: without even your knowledge, because that's their job to look
Speaker 3: out for you, so.
Speaker 2: You don't have to do it.
Speaker 3: But if push comes to shove and pat wants a
Speaker 3: new deal, I think he's gonna get it, and I
Speaker 3: don't think anybody's gonna have a problem with that. It's
Speaker 3: just unfamiliar territory here because the unfamiliar situation you were
Speaker 3: in with Kenny Payin led to you to be here
Speaker 3: where you hired a coach and he's not making near
Speaker 3: the money that.
Speaker 2: You paid previous guys to take this job.
Speaker 3: So you know that there's an explanation as to while
Speaker 3: we're here is because of how bad it went with
Speaker 3: KP So potentially, I guess you could find yourself the
Speaker 3: product of that is is another unusual situation where you're
Speaker 3: sitting around thinking, hey, we better pay our coach because
Speaker 3: if not, somebody's gonna come and try to take him. Previously,
Speaker 3: nobody would ever come and try to take the Louisville
Speaker 3: coach because it's Louisville. I mean, it just didn't make
Speaker 3: any sense, not only because of the program, but because
Speaker 3: of who was the coach. Dinny Crumb turned down UCLA.
Speaker 3: You think he's gonna leave Louisville to go anywhere else. No,
Speaker 3: Rick Patino, like, there's better jobs than Louisville, but not many,
Speaker 3: And why would Rick want to start over and go elsewhere, like,
Speaker 3: you know, just doesn't make any sense. And it doesn't
Speaker 3: make any sense right now for Pat Kelsey to look
Speaker 3: to want elite, to want to leave Louisville for any
Speaker 3: other college job. And I don't think there's a chance
Speaker 3: in hell that happens, because if he keeps winning, he
Speaker 3: was gonna be compensated and they're gonna, you know, Louis's
Speaker 3: gonna get what they pay for. It just made sense
Speaker 3: for them to not. I mean, if they would have
Speaker 3: given Pat Kelsey the same exact contract they gave Kenny initially,
Speaker 3: it honestly would not have been a big surprise because
Speaker 3: again it's Louisville. Like there's a going rate for this
Speaker 3: job because of what it is like, it wouldn't have
Speaker 3: been a shocker, right, So what this did? I think
Speaker 3: it actually shows some physical responsibility from Josh to where
Speaker 3: he did learn this go around. I think this guy's
Speaker 3: going to be great, but I also thought Kenny Pain
Speaker 3: was going to be great, and now we're paying for
Speaker 3: it quite literally, so I gotta be careful. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be you know, I'm gonna be a little more mindful
Speaker 3: of what we guarantee, what we put on, what we
Speaker 3: put in place, and you still have to do that
Speaker 3: now like it could fall apart. I don't think it
Speaker 3: will with Pat. But it's just this has been fun
Speaker 3: and I just I didn't. I wasn't trying to go
Speaker 3: relive the Kenny Payne era and bag on him because
Speaker 3: I don't. I'm so happy about level basketball. I don't
Speaker 3: want to focus on Kenny Payine. But for those and
Speaker 3: there's not many, there's some that get really there. In fact,
Speaker 3: I'm only talking about like one person that texts in.
Speaker 3: There's one person that called in that didn't want to
Speaker 3: come on the air one time, but just wanted the
Speaker 3: wanted whoever was producing that day to know that I
Speaker 3: need to move on from Kenny Payne. Why are we
Speaker 3: still talking about Kenny Payne. It's because you're triggered for
Speaker 3: some reason that I'll never understand. You are bothered by
Speaker 3: people not sharing opinions but acknowledging facts that he was
Speaker 3: that bad as a coach. And why that bothers you,
Speaker 3: I'll never understand. Because we had some people out here
Speaker 3: that expose themselves as Kenny Payne fans and not Louisville fans.
Speaker 3: That's what you were if you wanted to keep this
Speaker 3: thing around, which not many did.
Speaker 2: So when people the.
Speaker 3: Few out there that are like still triggered and get
Speaker 3: mad and talking about you're so security like he's a
Speaker 3: part of this. The reason we feel as good as
Speaker 3: we feel right now is because of how bad he was.
Speaker 2: So it's not like.
Speaker 3: Not being able to move on right now in the
Speaker 3: raw and real moment, halfway through a season. We're feeling great,
Speaker 3: And a part of the reason we feel as good
Speaker 3: as we feel is is because of how bad he was.
Speaker 3: So that's not going on, and that's just a part
Speaker 3: of this whole thing. And anybody who's like, why you're
Speaker 3: bringing him up, it's obvious to me. And if you're
Speaker 3: still triggered and bothered that, like anybody acknowledges what happened.
Speaker 3: Nobody's picking on him, nobody's going out of their way,
Speaker 3: and if they did, I wouldn't blame him. It'd be
Speaker 3: totally different if Kenny was you know, humble Kenny still
Speaker 3: to this day. I mean the last time we heard
Speaker 3: from him, I mean we didn't hear from him. Last
Speaker 3: time heard from him was at a press conference when
Speaker 3: you know when he talked about jumping off the Titanic,
Speaker 3: and I mean people forget he threw everybody under the
Speaker 3: bus in his last press conferences if he had no
Speaker 3: accountability like he was, I mean he was quite literally
Speaker 3: a masterclass in how to give two years at a
Speaker 3: gig the worst possible way you could. That's what that was.
Speaker 3: And I say this again not to be funny, because
Speaker 3: it's not funny. Not exaggerating.
Speaker 2: This isn't for.
Speaker 3: Effect, it's the truth. I appreciate his consistency. He was
Speaker 3: so bad from day one in every way on the floor,
Speaker 3: results off the floor, to where it was quite clear
Speaker 3: this wasn't going to work out, and I thank him
Speaker 3: for that, and I mean it sincerely. So Pat Kelsey,
Speaker 3: everything that Pat Kelsey is is everything that Kenny Payne
Speaker 3: was not, and it's been enjoyable. And we'll talk about this.
Speaker 3: On the other side, Kentucky can say the same thing
Speaker 3: about their coach. Both can be successful, like let Cal's
Speaker 3: clearly struggling in a major way, but he could be
Speaker 3: great at Arkansas and it wouldn't mean that Pope wouldn't
Speaker 3: be in the situation that he's in right now, right.
Speaker 3: But when it comes to why you enjoy this ride
Speaker 3: so much as Kentucky fans, it's because every single thing
Speaker 3: that you love about Mark Pope, outside of the fact
Speaker 3: that he played there. Everything you love about him, his
Speaker 3: style of play, his love for your program, his humbleness,
Speaker 3: his relatability, all that that is everything that the guy
Speaker 3: you used to have was not. And if he was
Speaker 3: still winning at a really high level, you guys would
Speaker 3: still act like he's the best thing that ever happened.
Speaker 3: Because that's just how fans o. That's how it works.
Speaker 3: That's how this works. But cal is crumbling, and I
Speaker 3: think him carrying himself the way he has really for
Speaker 3: his whole career. He doesn't have that army behind him anymore,
Speaker 3: Big Blue Nation. He's not at Arkansas and they haven't
Speaker 3: gotten anything from him, and they're worried that they made
Speaker 3: the wrong decision and he's going to be there forever
Speaker 3: because of the money that he got.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Imagine going back in time a year ago today and
Speaker 3: telling everyone that this scenario today would be in front
Speaker 3: of us. Nobody would believe you for a second. It's
Speaker 3: been a while ride, But I think both fan bases are,
Speaker 3: you know, clearly feeling much better now than they.
Speaker 2: Did a year ago.
Speaker 3: All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side.
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Speaker 3: I was surprised that that was that was edited out.
Speaker 3: I mean, I get that it's it's a little risque,
Speaker 3: but I don't I think when it comes to like
Speaker 3: FCC which you're allowed to say nip, you can say nipples,
Speaker 3: can't you.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean what I wouldn't say, you.
Speaker 2: Can say nipples.
Speaker 3: But maybe it was the context in which, uh, in
Speaker 3: which he said it that was that was, you know,
Speaker 3: not appropriate.
Speaker 2: But how about that as the start of a verse.
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Speaker 4: At wiggles, Yeah, some call Chris.
Speaker 3: I mean it kind of fit with him, and he
Speaker 3: had a hell of a run. That was certainly part
Speaker 3: of that run. But man, imagine, just like being a
Speaker 3: fly on the wall in the creative process, I think
Speaker 3: I got something here. I'm gonna start with this.
Speaker 2: Stop drop, kaboom, baby, rub on your nipples.
Speaker 3: I mean, it worked. It was a big hit. It's
Speaker 3: a it's a it's you know, it worked.
Speaker 4: It's a crazy sequence of things to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ludacris. Ludacris had a hell.
Speaker 4: Of a run. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yes. And I kind of feel like I'm not going
Speaker 3: to make the claim that like he's underappreciated in his
Speaker 3: world for what he did, because I don't know if
Speaker 3: that's the case or not, but I kind of feel
Speaker 3: like he do. People think he's corny or something because
Speaker 3: he's a huge part of the atl culture when they
Speaker 3: became like when they had a run where some of
Speaker 3: the biggest names for a long stretch. And I guess
Speaker 3: it's still the case today. But like whenever he became
Speaker 3: a big deal, like it was quite he was. It
Speaker 3: was quite clear he was from from Atlanta, and you know,
Speaker 3: he had a lot of big hits and he had
Speaker 3: a good run. And I just think it's funny now
Speaker 3: that there are certain is he still in movies and stuff,
Speaker 3: because like he was in Fast he.
Speaker 4: Did a lot of movies, the Fast movies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And and there may be people that just kind
Speaker 3: of know him for that, But I loved him. It's
Speaker 3: the last time he had like a I'm gonna look
Speaker 3: it up because I'm curious the last time he had
Speaker 3: a single that like that that was legitimately a hit
Speaker 3: within like radio hits and charts and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: It looks like, I mean, yeah, and this makes sense
Speaker 3: my chick bag. Yeah with Nicki Minaj, Dude, you want
Speaker 3: to hear something sad?
Speaker 2: That was fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4: Oh, I know it.
Speaker 3: And then right before that he was still in his
Speaker 3: bag because he had how Low, which was also a
Speaker 3: big hit.
Speaker 2: He also had.
Speaker 3: I mean some of these I kind of feel like,
Speaker 3: I remember, like One More Drink with t Pain. Is
Speaker 3: that ring a bell to you? I don't think it does,
Speaker 3: but it was a hit. It was top twenty five
Speaker 3: in the in the charts at one point. But when
Speaker 3: he dropped I remember in twenty I was twelve years old,
Speaker 3: he dropped What's Your Fantasy? Oh yeah, And I remember
Speaker 3: liking that song, liking the video and knowing my mom
Speaker 3: didn't want me listening to that, and there was a
Speaker 3: level of like enjoyment, knowing you're you're getting away with.
Speaker 2: It, you know what I mean? I mean that was a.
Speaker 4: Dirty south head.
Speaker 2: What would you is that is that his biggest hit?
Speaker 4: I would have to say, what's your fantasy?
Speaker 2: What's your fantasy?
Speaker 4: Never even get stand up? Maybe? Uh? A lot of
Speaker 4: people know area codes. I think they still stand up?
Speaker 2: Is is his only song? I'm sorry? Money Maker by
Speaker 2: Pharrell was huge. I don't know how I forgot about that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that one?
Speaker 3: So money Maker and uh and stand Up that you
Speaker 3: mentioned are in fact, just when it comes to like
Speaker 3: the numbers, those were his biggest hits.
Speaker 2: They both were.
Speaker 3: They were all three or that they were number one
Speaker 3: in all three US US R and B and hip
Speaker 3: hop in this US rap.
Speaker 4: Wow. But and he had get Back, of course everyone knows.
Speaker 2: That move get out the Way? Yeah that that that
Speaker 2: was a good song.
Speaker 4: And this one though degrade women like that? Of course
Speaker 4: I have them politely to get out of my way
Speaker 4: of codes was you know? I didn't love it, but
Speaker 4: it was it was a notable song. And what the
Speaker 4: song of his that I would say, like if you
Speaker 4: told me I only get to listen to one Ludacris song. Ever,
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna seek this out. I may
Speaker 4: never listen to it again. I'm not I'm not looking
Speaker 4: for it. But the Welcome to Atlanta with Jermaine Repete
Speaker 4: Jermain dup Prix was great. That was that didn't do
Speaker 4: as well as far as like charts and whatnot, but yeah,
Speaker 4: that was good. And then Act of Fool I remember
Speaker 4: that one, so shout out Ludacris Jermaine Duprix. I almost
Speaker 4: forgot about that, dude, And uh who else? The Dim
Speaker 4: Franchise Boys.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, you're talking.
Speaker 3: You're talking class of two thousand and six right here,
Speaker 3: bab Dim Franchise Boys.
Speaker 4: Uh, lean with it, rock with it, yup in my
Speaker 4: white tea. Yes, that was an era.
Speaker 3: That that and this is why, this is why I'm
Speaker 3: gonna miss TikTok because the algorithm, Like I'm sure it's
Speaker 3: because they're accessing something in my brain, Like I'm not,
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not somebody that thinks that there's not
Speaker 3: legitimate concerns about the security risk by having TikTok, because
Speaker 3: it's the one app that like, how did you how
Speaker 3: do you know me so well?
Speaker 2: Like all it works perfect.
Speaker 4: I'm still so sad.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's like maybe there's a scenario where you know,
Speaker 3: it's just because they can truly have that precise technology
Speaker 3: to know which videos I end up spending more time
Speaker 3: watching where they know they know to feed me that
Speaker 3: on my on my for you. But like when I
Speaker 3: was this is random, but I was laying in the
Speaker 3: hotel on Saturday night trying to go to sleep. I
Speaker 3: couldn't and we were in Pittsburgh. So I'm just scrolling
Speaker 3: through TikTok and I'm not kidding you. Everything I scrolled
Speaker 3: ninety nine percent of everything. I scrolled for like an
Speaker 3: hour and a half, two hours, And yeah, that's not
Speaker 3: a good look for me to admit. But I'll spend
Speaker 3: more than that wasting time on TikTok if I got
Speaker 3: nothing going on. Yeah, So so it was just nothing.
Speaker 3: But people of my age remembering that era than franchise boys,
Speaker 3: I mean, there's still people that are like like most
Speaker 3: of the people cast me. Ye, people that were in
Speaker 3: that in that realm are still known. They're just not
Speaker 3: as big now. But like they rarely did we have
Speaker 3: like I guess the franchise boys were kind of more
Speaker 3: one hit wonders.
Speaker 2: But you remember you remember Young Bloods. Of course they
Speaker 2: had a song called Damn.
Speaker 3: Yeah that was the So the songs that like I
Speaker 3: remember when it comes to like hip hop that that,
Speaker 3: and I don't mean necessarily just yeah, yeah, exactly, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think that, uh this probably was like this
Speaker 3: wasn't radio stuff. But when it comes to everybody who
Speaker 3: had a burnt CD in their car, because that was
Speaker 3: my ara, right, we didn't have you know, we did
Speaker 3: have MP MP three plays, right, yeah, so we all
Speaker 3: we all got stuff from Lime wire, we burnt CDs.
Speaker 3: I mean that's how we listened to music in our vehicles.
Speaker 3: We didn't listen on our phones. The eye the iPod
Speaker 3: had just had just kind of come around right around
Speaker 3: that time, but not a lot of people that. I mean,
Speaker 3: my buddy Blake had one. I was so jealous and
Speaker 3: he let me use it when I cut the grass,
Speaker 3: and he was such a great friend for doing that
Speaker 3: because I would just I'd be out there mowing the
Speaker 3: grass just vibbing out to like you know, and and
Speaker 3: now I do that every day in life, not cutting
Speaker 3: the grass. But like now, it's just something that I
Speaker 3: have and I know I always will have it as
Speaker 3: long as I have some. In fact, I don't even
Speaker 3: need technology or I don't even need the internet, like
Speaker 3: if I download an album on Spotify or whatever. I
Speaker 3: can be offline and still access it. So now it's
Speaker 3: just something that's there all the time. But whenever I
Speaker 3: used to cut the grass, I used to have to
Speaker 3: get a walkman out and put a CD in that
Speaker 3: thing and you know, find a pocket big enough to
Speaker 3: hold it while I'm you know, while I'm so to time.
Speaker 2: It was the time.
Speaker 3: It was special because I I don't mind cutting the
Speaker 3: grass if I can just go listen to music on
Speaker 3: my on my iPod. So anyways, the two songs that
Speaker 3: I feel and I'm sure I'm missing some because this
Speaker 3: was believed or not a long time ago. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm nineteen years removed from from high school.
Speaker 2: So next year will be our twenty year or twenty
Speaker 2: year reunion.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: But the song Fireman Bello Wayne, sure remember that one? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that song probably was played more than many songs in
Speaker 3: our I mean we listen to a lot of country too.
Speaker 3: There's this is just nostalgic, and I guess this will
Speaker 3: give you a reference, like if there's somebody that is
Speaker 3: a lot younger than me, if there's somebody that is
Speaker 3: a lot older than me. These you know, there are
Speaker 3: people listening that probably don't even know what Fireman Mellow
Speaker 3: Wayne is, but it was it. It's peak my senior year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel sorry for those folks.
Speaker 2: And then also.
Speaker 3: The I just I was just getting ready to reference it.
Speaker 3: It might have been that it was it was the
Speaker 3: damn song. Yes you don't give it now, we don't
Speaker 3: give that's some young blood. Yeah, that was that one.
Speaker 3: Those were played NonStop and they still they still are
Speaker 3: great today. But country, do you remember that? You know,
Speaker 3: you work for WMZ, so you're familiar with the country world.
Speaker 3: But again, this is a little before your time, certainly
Speaker 3: before you became a country music guy. Do you know
Speaker 3: the name Chris Kagel.
Speaker 4: It's not bringing a bell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm again, this is kind of a tough thing,
Speaker 3: but I've been here before and I just need to
Speaker 3: get used to it. I want to crush you for
Speaker 3: not knowing who Chris Cagel is. OK, but it makes
Speaker 3: total sense that you don't because when he was really big,
Speaker 3: I was, you know, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old. Where
Speaker 3: at that point you were how old? Like you were
Speaker 3: really young? And yeah, probably it probably didn't listen to country,
Speaker 3: so he was really big in that and he kind
Speaker 3: of fell off for Roderis, I think he had some
Speaker 3: get some domestic violin stuff that kind of, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of canceled him, canceled him before we called it that.
Speaker 3: But he had his biggest song was one of his
Speaker 3: biggest song was Laredo I Breathe In, Breathe Out Again.
Speaker 3: We're talking about songs that came out in the early
Speaker 3: two thousands, well over twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: So what about Chicks Digget? You ever heard of that?
Speaker 2: What a beautiful day? Like he had a really good run.
Speaker 3: But the song that he had that I kind of
Speaker 3: feel like was his last big single that was played
Speaker 3: non stop because it was kind of, you know, it's corny,
Speaker 3: but it fit with us graduating high school at the time.
Speaker 3: It was called Walmart parking Lot. Still, I'm sure it's
Speaker 3: not a great song in the green scheme of things,
Speaker 3: but because of like, you know, the time it came out,
Speaker 3: it was kind of you know, like we didn't really
Speaker 3: do that, but we kind of did.
Speaker 2: Like we didn't go to Walmart, but what a whole
Speaker 2: lot to do where we grew up.
Speaker 3: So when we did have our license and you know,
Speaker 3: we didn't have a whole lot to do. We would
Speaker 3: just go sit in the parking lot and hang out
Speaker 3: and socialize. So anyways, there's a lot of layers to
Speaker 3: realizing how much time has passed and realizing that you're
Speaker 3: getting older, and it's right in front of me every day.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like an old man. But music is
Speaker 3: starting to become the thing where I'm like, wait a second,
Speaker 3: there's no way that was twenty five years ago, and
Speaker 3: you know, sure enough, twenty five years have passed and
Speaker 3: some of these songs used to be you know. And
Speaker 3: that's another part of the whole TikTok thing. Like a
Speaker 3: lot of the comments I go to it, and it's
Speaker 3: the people who comment, I'm like, these are my people
Speaker 3: because they're like, wait a second, they're calling this like
Speaker 3: an oldie what yes, it's like that, like, but it's
Speaker 3: all us collectively. Oh my gosh, we've turned into We've
Speaker 3: turned into the adults. Like we're the grown ups here.
Speaker 2: What happened?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: Like we used to listen to that music thinking that
Speaker 3: old people would like not like it because they're old
Speaker 3: and uncool. Now that music is not cool to probably
Speaker 3: the younger generation and what they're listening to mumble stuff.
Speaker 3: We're probably thinking, what the hell is this?
Speaker 4: Right, That's how I start to timestamp when I'm talking
Speaker 4: to somebody and I'm trying to explain to them, Yeah,
Speaker 4: that was about the time that uh, Nelly and Tim
Speaker 4: McGraw did over and over again, or yeah that's when
Speaker 4: that's when this this movie came out back in the day,
Speaker 4: and that's that's that's what I used for time references.
Speaker 2: Anyone you remember that that was the thing Tim McGraw
Speaker 2: and Nelly.
Speaker 4: Of course I do like Sweet Sweat album, can album?
Speaker 2: Can we not acknowledge that that song was trash?
Speaker 4: I never listened like it.
Speaker 3: Just seemed like such a forced crossover that just didn't
Speaker 3: need to happen, Like both can be great exclusively. I
Speaker 3: don't think Tim McGraw and Nelly needed to make songs together.
Speaker 3: But look, Nelly, he's still riding some momentum because he
Speaker 3: you know, hadn't had a big hit on the radio
Speaker 3: in a long time.
Speaker 2: But you know what he's doing.
Speaker 3: He's doing music with like Florida Georgia line. He's still
Speaker 3: you know, getting booked for concerts because you know, he's Nelly.
Speaker 3: He had a great run.
Speaker 4: I love the Hot and Herd. Nelly.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, when Nelly.
Speaker 3: When Nelly dropped his his his first album, Country Grammar.
Speaker 3: I was in middle school then I was young. But
Speaker 3: that that that was that was such a big deal.
Speaker 3: Like he he was, I feel like on top of
Speaker 3: the world. And he said something that went viral not
Speaker 3: that long ago in one of these podcast interviews that
Speaker 3: all these guys do now to kind of keep their
Speaker 3: name out there, to still try to you know, make
Speaker 3: a good living being guys who you know, are still
Speaker 3: famous but certainly not super relevant in current music. He
Speaker 3: made a claim that everybody wanted to like say, he's crazy,
Speaker 3: but then when you think about it, it wasn't crazy.
Speaker 3: When Nelly debuted and he kind of came out of
Speaker 3: nowhere and he dropped his Country Grammar debut album and
Speaker 3: the Country Grammar single was the first was his first hit,
Speaker 3: and then that album was just insane. But that was
Speaker 3: in two thousand. So he made the claim that what
Speaker 3: he did in having a you know, a let's see
Speaker 3: what was he was platinum. I mean he had and
Speaker 3: that that album is honestly, and again maybe it's just
Speaker 3: my era, like that album's kind of legendary because of
Speaker 3: how many hits that you remember from it when it
Speaker 3: comes to you know, country grammar, Ride with Me Ei,
Speaker 3: I mean, I know a bunch of songs that didn't
Speaker 3: become batter Up. I know songs that didn't become a
Speaker 3: love and Me is a really good song that never
Speaker 3: became like a hit on the radio. But like, he
Speaker 3: had a great debut album that did really really well
Speaker 3: when it comes to numbers, and but nobody would ever
Speaker 3: put him up there with.
Speaker 2: Like the greats of hip hop and rap right.
Speaker 3: However, him being able to have that success given the
Speaker 3: competition at the time was insane. Meaning in two thousand,
Speaker 3: Eminem was humongous. Jay Z was always big, but he
Speaker 3: had kind of hit the mainstream at that time. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's there's others that that, you know, I can't think
Speaker 3: of any off the top of my head, but he
Speaker 3: broke it down, and I'm like, you know what, I
Speaker 3: would never throw him out there as like he's one
Speaker 3: of the best ever and collectively people agree. But he
Speaker 3: did do something that most never do, and he did
Speaker 3: it at a time where he was competing with guys
Speaker 3: that to this day are still legends. So shout out Nelly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he stayed relevant long enough, and he did, like
Speaker 4: you said, he did the Florida Georgia lying thing with
Speaker 4: Cruise and you remember it came on the scene I
Speaker 4: think even before that with the Saint Lunatics, right Histtle
Speaker 4: his little hip hop group from up and.
Speaker 3: Saying, I mean he put all those guys on Murphy
Speaker 3: Lee and they weren't great, but it was just because
Speaker 3: he had so much momentum, Like, hey, they wanted to
Speaker 3: keep tapping into you know what what what he was doing.
Speaker 4: He's like the Adam Sandler of music. He just got
Speaker 4: all his homies involved and they've been eating off him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is what he was competing with. I
Speaker 3: mentioned the obvious with Eminem and jay Z, but you
Speaker 3: also had Outcast really becoming. I mean they've they they've
Speaker 3: been they've been legends in that culture and of course
Speaker 3: in Atlanta for longer than just two thousand. But again
Speaker 3: we're talking about at the time they kind of became mainstream,
Speaker 3: and you know, looking at some other I feel like
Speaker 3: I'm blanking on one big name that was like, again,
Speaker 3: this guy is also not a legend. But when he
Speaker 3: had his run where he had the most momentum, bust rhymes.
Speaker 4: I mean that was and kind of keep forgetting about
Speaker 4: buster rhums, but like not that not yes, he's and.
Speaker 2: That's and here's another one again.
Speaker 3: This is somebody that's so easy to like laugh at
Speaker 3: now for understandable reason. But at the time you had
Speaker 3: Jaw Rule, who was in the when Joe Rule was big,
Speaker 3: he was huge, right, I mean he had a lot
Speaker 3: of hits. I mean this was at the time he
Speaker 3: was dropping, you know, put it on me, which of
Speaker 3: course is still it's funny to think about that being
Speaker 3: my wife and I saw when we were in middle school,
Speaker 3: not super relatable, not super relatable to twelve year olds
Speaker 3: and twelve year olds in Bullet County, but we felt
Speaker 3: like that they they were thinking about us as a
Speaker 3: couple when they put that song together. So anyways, let's
Speaker 3: talk TikTok. I think that's the reason I went down
Speaker 3: this path.
Speaker 2: Anyway. So what is this is X is a great platform.
Speaker 2: Love it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna continue to be on X slash
Speaker 3: Twitter because it's a good resource for me. So I'm
Speaker 3: not like, you know, I'm not I mean, I am complaining,
Speaker 3: but it is absolutely the most untrustworthy resource to where
Speaker 3: like you have no clue if anything's actually real or not,
Speaker 3: and you need There's been so many examples of people
Speaker 3: getting god to where now it's just a common thing
Speaker 3: that like you're not like you'll believe it if it's
Speaker 3: from like Chefty or or somebody that's a legitimate source,
Speaker 3: but like you can doctor up an account, like, for example,
Speaker 3: here's an account that has five hundred and forty one
Speaker 3: point five thousand followers, over half a mill that's clearly
Speaker 3: a very popular account that has a ton of followers,
Speaker 3: and they've shared a piece of news that I feel
Speaker 3: like is believable. But again, maybe this is somebody that
Speaker 3: has this big following because they troll people. I don't know,
Speaker 3: so I'm sharing this without knowing if it's true or not.
Speaker 3: But it would make sense that Senator Ed Markey has
Speaker 3: proposed extending the TikTok us band deadline by two hundred
Speaker 3: and seventy days.
Speaker 2: Here's the quote.
Speaker 3: TikTok has its problems, but a TikTok band would impose
Speaker 3: consequences on millions of Americans who depend on the app
Speaker 3: for connections in their economic livelihood. We cannot allow that
Speaker 3: to happen makes total sense. But what I don't know is,
Speaker 3: like is that true? Like have they he proposed it?
Speaker 3: But did they? Because here's what I could see happening.
Speaker 3: And by the way, I could see him completely getting
Speaker 3: rid of it, because this is a real thing that
Speaker 3: they're trying to do, But I could see them kicking
Speaker 3: it down the road many times before they ultimately just
Speaker 3: pull the plug because they've given people a heads up.
Speaker 3: Like we've known for a while this app is we're
Speaker 3: in jeopardy of losing it because of the security, because
Speaker 3: security concerns.
Speaker 2: However, there are a lot of people that.
Speaker 3: Like in the blink of an eye, they lose their
Speaker 3: livelihood in every way. I would imagine most people who
Speaker 3: are big on TikTok they have a platform elsewhere.
Speaker 2: But if TikTok's were it started for.
Speaker 3: You, I'm sure it's a huge issue if you just
Speaker 3: have to automatically ship people to Instagram or x And
Speaker 3: I feel like, just from an outsider's perspective, I don't
Speaker 3: do this, but I feel like people using their TikTok
Speaker 3: following to then post products and promote them and have
Speaker 3: people click on them to buy. Yeah, that's clearly working,
Speaker 3: because that's a huge part of what TikTok is. I've
Speaker 3: purchased things from that, from the TikTok show, yes, because
Speaker 3: like I'm thinking, you know what, damn, that is a
Speaker 3: very affordable thing that I didn't even know existed that
Speaker 3: I could really use. So like, there are people that
Speaker 3: either are selling their own stuff there and making a
Speaker 3: great living utilizing the resource that is social media and TikTok,
Speaker 3: but there's also folks that are that have become you know,
Speaker 3: they get a percentage. So like, if I've got and
Speaker 3: I did see, I was interested in it, not that
Speaker 3: I would ever do it because I wouldn't be able to.
Speaker 3: I don't have a big following on TikTok, and I'm
Speaker 3: not sure what kind of products I could be pipping
Speaker 3: out that people to buy.
Speaker 2: But there are people who have.
Speaker 3: Like companies that have twenty of a certain product. They say, hey, here,
Speaker 3: I got twenty of them that I'm going to let
Speaker 3: you sell, and you get a twenty five percent commission
Speaker 3: on everyone you sell. If you've got a big following
Speaker 3: and the product is something that is in your niche
Speaker 3: and the people who follow you follow you for that,
Speaker 3: it probably won't take you long at all to sell
Speaker 3: twenty of those, and I would imagine, depending on the product,
Speaker 3: that's a good way for you to make a living.
Speaker 3: So even though they've been warned and it's been a
Speaker 3: known thing, just pulling the plug it will impact them.
Speaker 3: So I could see them doing it, But again I
Speaker 3: could also could also, you know, see them continuing to
Speaker 3: try to figure out some plan because what they want
Speaker 3: is for TikTok to sell and at that point then
Speaker 3: they could keep it active in the US. But TikTok
Speaker 3: is so big everywhere that they're willing to say, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, we'll we clearly would benefit and would like
Speaker 3: to be available to folks in the United States, but
Speaker 3: well we'll live without you rather than just selling something
Speaker 3: that we think is huge. So I mean, have you
Speaker 3: heard anything about the latest on it?
Speaker 4: No. I just keep seeing all the memes or everyone's
Speaker 4: saying goodbye to their spy up until Sunday. And me personally,
Speaker 4: I love TikTok too. TikTok is ten times better than
Speaker 4: what Vine was, and I loved Vine back then. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, I think what rid of TikTok is getting
Speaker 4: rid of my it's my entertainment.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think there are certain things that like
Speaker 3: make me. I would have never envisioned some of the
Speaker 3: things I see, but I laugh uncontrollably sometimes with just
Speaker 3: silly humor on there. And now when I go to
Speaker 3: the comments of those videos Austin, a lot of them
Speaker 3: are people saying, can you.
Speaker 2: Believe they're taking this away from us?
Speaker 3: Can you believe they're robbing us of this harmless joy
Speaker 3: that we get out of people being funny on the internet.
Speaker 2: Sad, sad, sad.
Speaker 4: So the comment section is probably one of the best.
Speaker 3: You said it with everyone, you said it, brother, the funniest,
Speaker 3: The funniest thing out there right now anywhere is comment
Speaker 3: sections of some of these tiktoks.
Speaker 2: I love it. Quick break, We'll come back and wrap
Speaker 2: it up.
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Speaker 3: So, according to ABC News, this happened actually today. The
Speaker 3: Supreme Court passed up a chance to intervene on behalf
Speaker 3: of TikTok today when a batch of new rulings did
Speaker 3: not include a verdict in the case challenging an intimate
Speaker 3: ban of the app. So Sunday's the day and unless
Speaker 3: TikTok severs ties with their based company that owns them,
Speaker 3: which is looks like it's called byte dance. Unless they
Speaker 3: sever ties than the plan is for it to be
Speaker 3: in effect on Sunday, So one hundred and seventy million
Speaker 3: TikTok users in the United States will lose access to
Speaker 3: the app.
Speaker 2: It'll be on your.
Speaker 3: Phone, but like it won't work, it won't do anything,
Speaker 3: which it sounds like that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: But you're tease here tech.
Speaker 3: This is I guess the scenario where they could they
Speaker 3: this this you know, we could eventually have we could
Speaker 3: have TikTok still the Supreme Court delays it, which that
Speaker 3: doesn't sound like it's gonna happen. TikTok could sell, doesn't
Speaker 3: something like that's gonna happen. The Trump administration could decline
Speaker 3: to enforce the band. I'd say that's probably our best bet.
Speaker 3: And then there's also Congress repealing the band. So doesn't
Speaker 3: look good. And I've kind of i've kind of, you know,
Speaker 3: just accepted that, like this is going away and it's
Speaker 3: a bummer and I'll miss it. But there seems to
Speaker 3: be a whole lot of people out there that are
Speaker 3: either in denial or maybe they know more than I know,
Speaker 3: because I think there's some that just truly believe there's
Speaker 3: no way they just get rid of it. Well, I
Speaker 3: think they're going to. This is a very serious thing
Speaker 3: that they're trying to, you know, get used to Instagram reels, buddy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't like it, but I guess that's where we'll
Speaker 3: go to scroll through and see funny stuff. All right,
Speaker 3: quick break, actually no long break, twenty one hour break.
Speaker 2: We're out of time.
Speaker 3: You guys, Enjoy your evening.