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<v Speaker 1>My Billy Cunningham, the great American. Of course, once again,

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati made the national news last night with Lester Holt

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place on CNN and Fox News this

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<v Speaker 1>morning because to the burglary of Joe Burrow's home, which

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<v Speaker 1>may be connected to the South American gangs. But who

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<v Speaker 1>knows the person that broke the story? The power of

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<v Speaker 1>five those five radars are constantly moving all over the

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<v Speaker 1>tri State is Karen Johnson and Karen Johnson, Welcome again

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<v Speaker 1>to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Karen, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>as we sit here this early Wednesday afternoon, can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell the American people the facts as we know them

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<v Speaker 1>to be at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is so crazy. One out of Anderson Township,

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<v Speaker 2>Monday night football Joe Burrows in Dallas, right around the

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<v Speaker 2>same time as kickoffs, a woman who said who was

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<v Speaker 2>staying at Joe Burrow's house in Anderson Township called her

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<v Speaker 2>mom called nine one one said the house was broken

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<v Speaker 2>into through a back window, a bedroom window. It was

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<v Speaker 2>shattered and she said the bedroom there had been ransacked.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing that was interesting at the time, according

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<v Speaker 2>to the radio dispatch and my one cause we got

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<v Speaker 2>there was a Hamilton County off duty deputy doing a

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<v Speaker 2>security detail at the house at least at the time

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<v Speaker 2>that the break in was discovered, and as it stands

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<v Speaker 2>right now, there has been no arrest. Hamilton County Sheriff's

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<v Speaker 2>office cannot tell me at this point if they think

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<v Speaker 2>it's linked to the other burglaries that are targeting high

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<v Speaker 2>profile sports stars like Chravis, Chelsey, Patrick Mahomes. They all

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<v Speaker 2>had their homes broken into in October.

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<v Speaker 1>We also have I know of several I won't say

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<v Speaker 1>friends of mine, but acquaintances living in Indian Hill that

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<v Speaker 1>had their homes broken into and the same way. And

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<v Speaker 1>the rangers in Indian Hill want to keep that a

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<v Speaker 1>bit quiet because it's not good for business. But going

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<v Speaker 1>back in time, do you know whether the games the

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<v Speaker 1>kickoff was about eight fifteen or so, and the woman

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<v Speaker 1>called about eight pm. She called nine to one one.

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<v Speaker 1>We've all heard the tape and she called her mom,

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<v Speaker 1>who I think New York City, who had then routed

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<v Speaker 1>it back to Hamleton County. But is it possible that

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<v Speaker 1>the so called burglary took place many hours before that,

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<v Speaker 1>before the woman was in the house, and before the

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<v Speaker 1>deputy sheriff got there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good possibility because when she reported, they asked,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if there was a burglary in progress or

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<v Speaker 2>if it was kind of just discovered, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>just discovered at that time, and according to the incident report,

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<v Speaker 2>it says she arrived at the house and found it

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<v Speaker 2>broken into. Also on the incident report, it lists the

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<v Speaker 2>time of the burglary anytime between one thirty Sunday afternoon

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<v Speaker 2>and eight fifteen Monday night. So as far as we know,

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<v Speaker 2>at least of what the deputies are realating to us

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<v Speaker 2>is that's the time frame. So we don't know exactly

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<v Speaker 2>when the burglary took place.

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<v Speaker 1>So for those to speculate that the woman was there

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<v Speaker 1>while the burglary was occurring, or the deputy sheriff was there,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand he was in a Mark Carr sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>the driveway listening to radio, which of course we encourage.

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<v Speaker 1>But nonetheless, it's completely possible that at one thirty pm

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday afternoon, while Joe was gone, that the cop had

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<v Speaker 1>not arrived yet and or the woman wasn't there. That's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly possible.

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<v Speaker 2>That is possible, because what we don't know at this

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<v Speaker 2>point is what time the off duty cop started his

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<v Speaker 2>security detail there.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we know what was stolen from Joe Burrow's bedroom.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't the incident report. Obviously, Joe wasn't there, so

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't know. You know, he didn't have a chance

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<v Speaker 2>at least when the report was taken to go over

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<v Speaker 2>and tell them what he thought it was stolen, and

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<v Speaker 2>they said the woman gave a pretty non descript you know,

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<v Speaker 2>of items that may have been taken, but at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>none of that information has been released. At to talk

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<v Speaker 2>with the fokesperson for the Sheriff's office too, and she

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<v Speaker 2>told me she is not to paid any new information

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<v Speaker 2>to be released today.

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<v Speaker 1>And Karen Johnson, please go ahead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I wanted to touch base because I am getting

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<v Speaker 2>calls and I'm obviously working the story all day today.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned Indian Hill. I have not been able to

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<v Speaker 2>confirm that, but I have gotten some calls to check

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<v Speaker 2>into that. I've also gotten a tip that maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>few days higher to Joe's, there was another break in

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<v Speaker 2>close by his house. So we're a work in all

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<v Speaker 2>of that right now, trying to kind of connect the

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<v Speaker 2>dots and see if there's more to this, more taking

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<v Speaker 2>place in these two neighborhood locally.

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<v Speaker 1>Either Channel five or others have drones up and in

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<v Speaker 1>that area, it's kind of behind Coldstream Country Club. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a heavily wooded area. It's kind of on the Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>River and the cliffs. And to go back into that

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<v Speaker 1>particular area, there's a gate and to go out the

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<v Speaker 1>back of that house. I've been there, not to that house,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've been in that friend of mine three doors

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<v Speaker 1>down lives there, and it's a heavily wooded area. And

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<v Speaker 1>so if somebody would break in the back of the

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<v Speaker 1>house where the master bedroom is, can I use master anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe primary? And the guy went through that window, is

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<v Speaker 1>there any indication whether it was cut out or shattered?

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<v Speaker 1>Because security normally the sound detectors would catch a shattered window.

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<v Speaker 1>However it was cut out with suction cups, the shattering

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<v Speaker 1>would not have taken place, in which case the noise

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't set off the alarm. So behind his house, can

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<v Speaker 1>you tell the American people what is behind the home

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<v Speaker 1>that someone could go into the wooded area because behind

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<v Speaker 1>that house is Coldstream Country Club and a big parking lot.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's one hell of a trek from Joe Burrow's

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<v Speaker 1>house through the woods. Do you see what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 1>How could someone have gotten.

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<v Speaker 2>Out with the gates that would that would you know,

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<v Speaker 2>take a lot of planning to fifty two that comes

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<v Speaker 2>up you know that road, and then come up through

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<v Speaker 2>the heavily wooded area through the back of his house.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a possibility. We also though, if you think

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<v Speaker 2>about it, where he lives, it is a gated community,

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<v Speaker 2>but the gated community for cars but not for people walking.

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<v Speaker 2>You could easily walk around the gates the way it's situated.

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<v Speaker 2>So at this point we don't know. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>detectives are not saying if they think he came up

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<v Speaker 2>through the wooded area, because that would be quite a hall,

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<v Speaker 2>or if he may have came through the front and

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<v Speaker 2>just not driven a car. But also you know you're

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<v Speaker 2>out there those gates ogus frequently. Yeah, people coming and

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<v Speaker 2>going constantly, so it's not like, you know, it's secure.

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<v Speaker 2>But up to a point.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, someone at night, say Sunday evening, like at

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<v Speaker 1>five thirty pm, you could drive around those gates that

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<v Speaker 1>open up. It's simply a clicker and there's no guard there.

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<v Speaker 1>You simply hit the clicker or the gates open. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been there a couple of times where the gates are

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<v Speaker 1>stuck open because the clickers aren't working. This isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>master burglary situation where they had no I mean, it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be easy to get someone back there. But I know

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<v Speaker 1>the deputy sheriff is catching a lot of flak because

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<v Speaker 1>how can a cop And Joe Burrow may say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you pay a cop fifty bucks an hour to sit

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<v Speaker 1>there mark police car and he's in his car and

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<v Speaker 1>why didn't he Knowah Burgley was going on. Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>could have taken place hours before he got there.

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<v Speaker 2>That is possibility. It could have taken place before he

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<v Speaker 2>got there. It also, I mean, if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the size of those houses back there, he's sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>a vehicle in the front. Are you will you even

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<v Speaker 2>here even if the glass was shattered in the back

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the house, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's one deputy sitting, you know, doing a security detail,

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<v Speaker 2>may not have known it's a huge house and.

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<v Speaker 1>The woman in the house. Were there two people in

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<v Speaker 1>the house or one? There was some reporting early on

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<v Speaker 1>it was a woman and a guy. Was it only

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<v Speaker 1>a woman to the best of your knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So in the nine on one call, she's talking

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<v Speaker 2>to a man and it sounds like she's saying asking

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<v Speaker 2>the guy, saying are you are you you know a cop?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you security? So it almost seems like she did

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<v Speaker 2>not know the deputy who was doing the security detail,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was a little confused of who he was.

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<v Speaker 1>So as far as there is other similar burglaries, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>personally aware of two people at Kenwa Country Club that

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<v Speaker 1>had their homes broken into in a similar fashion. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the second story. They were absent from the home.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in February of last year, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>down in their home down in Miami Beach area and

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<v Speaker 1>someone put like deer cameras in a bush or a

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<v Speaker 1>tree so they could monitor the house. Who was there,

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<v Speaker 1>who was not there. They knew no one would be

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<v Speaker 1>there because they had cameras indicating it. They took a ladder,

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<v Speaker 1>went up to the second floor, used a cutting device.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of shattering the window, they used a cutting device

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<v Speaker 1>with rubber and they pulled it away. They went in

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<v Speaker 1>the house, stole a whole bunch of stuff, went out,

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<v Speaker 1>came came back down. The window was left. Shall we

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<v Speaker 1>say open because it was cut out and it was

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<v Speaker 1>February of last year and it was it was shall

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<v Speaker 1>we say, the pipes were frozen and all hell broke loose,

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<v Speaker 1>and the rangers don't want to get the information out

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<v Speaker 1>to scare people because otherwise you got problems. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>other people that in the Blue Ash and Villa Hills

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<v Speaker 1>area that have called me and said they had the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing happened to them. And one of the rules

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<v Speaker 1>is they monitor their property with cameras. They make sure

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<v Speaker 1>who's in who's not there. They know that they go

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<v Speaker 1>in and they have a ten minute time frame to

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<v Speaker 1>get in and get out. They don't shatter windows, they

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<v Speaker 1>cut them out, and they use a cloaking or masking

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<v Speaker 1>device on signals from the house to in case there's

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<v Speaker 1>a burglary alarm that is sent by signal. No one

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<v Speaker 1>has a landline anymore. And that's how it's done. And

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<v Speaker 1>what do you know about that whole situation that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Scary to me. I can tell you this when with

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<v Speaker 2>the deputy reported and you know in the nine of

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<v Speaker 2>one caller, the woman she said quote the word shattered.

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<v Speaker 2>They use the word shattered, So I don't know the situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you when we put the drone up,

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<v Speaker 2>you could see the back window and it was boarded up.

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<v Speaker 2>So we don't know how they got into Joe Burrow's house.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, getting back to I understand a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of police departments want to keep buy when they happen

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<v Speaker 2>in nicer neighborhoods. But me, I'm talking to people in

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<v Speaker 2>Borrow's neighborhood and blocks away. They want to know this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff because if it's happening more than once, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a right to know. You know, I know

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<v Speaker 2>one woman right now, she's adding extra security to her house.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't live, she lives a few minutes away from

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow because of this, and people who live in these

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<v Speaker 2>communities have a right to know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other rule of these gangs is no injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>If they have to confront someone, they get out because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to kill or hurt anyone. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is dangerous because the homeowner there was a homeowner and

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<v Speaker 1>it was in Warren County two days ago that shot

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<v Speaker 1>an intruder. I think you might have covered it, and

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<v Speaker 1>thank god shots were fired and the bad guy's dead.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the rules of the South American gangs

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<v Speaker 1>is no injuries, no deaths, don't confront We don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to cause any more difficulty for us. And then if

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<v Speaker 1>difficulty arises, they simply get them out of the country

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<v Speaker 1>and bring in an the crew. I had an FBI

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<v Speaker 1>agent retired tell me there's eighty to ninety gangs of

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<v Speaker 1>five to ten members each operating all over the country.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is something that it's scary as can be

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think they're going to go into a

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<v Speaker 1>Cape Cod in Middletown, but they look for areas, especially

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<v Speaker 1>young athletes that have a lot of bling. But then

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<v Speaker 1>it also involved a couple of prominent families in Indian

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<v Speaker 1>Hill and they're scared to death. They don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep in their house anymore. It's a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I know the with the NBA and the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL players, you know them, seems to be the same.

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<v Speaker 2>It's happening when the players are at a game. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was the Milwaukee Bucks. Bobby Portis he had

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<v Speaker 2>his broken into and it was right up kickoffs, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was the same situation. It was through a back window,

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<v Speaker 2>through a bedroom window. It was ransacked. So there are

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<v Speaker 2>striking similarities between the burglaries that we're finding, but again,

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<v Speaker 2>Hamilton County Sheriffs not really seeing for sure if they

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<v Speaker 2>believe this one is connected to the others.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you don't know, but to his all the

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<v Speaker 1>earmarks and to get away from that house on the

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<v Speaker 1>back end, I would say, it's almost impossible to leave

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow's home and walk down the hill away from

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<v Speaker 1>the high River, through all the woods to find a

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<v Speaker 1>car to get you out of there. It didn't someone

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<v Speaker 1>just walking around like Hyde Park or over the rhine. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't go out. That makes me believe that it

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<v Speaker 1>was a car or a vehicle that went inside or

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<v Speaker 1>through the gate which is not guarded and waited out front.

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<v Speaker 1>The cop hadn't arrived yet. They did what they did

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<v Speaker 1>in dark, got out within ten minutes and they're gone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one that's a guess on my part. Does that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fit with you with what you know at

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you know, we don't know at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>We just they're not saying anything. But I'm sure if

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<v Speaker 2>that is the case, you think with all those houses,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, those high end homes right there, there has

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<v Speaker 2>to be some high end security systems that have cameras

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<v Speaker 2>facing the road. So I would think at this point

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<v Speaker 2>there would be some kind of footage that shows something,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if they have a time frame between one thirty

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday and eight fifteen Monday. You know, they know what

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<v Speaker 2>area they're looking for, they know what time they're asking

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<v Speaker 2>the neighbors to go back look at the security cameras.

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<v Speaker 2>But again that's something we don't know what the Testives

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<v Speaker 2>have yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's one way in and one way out there.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of branches off left and right, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>one way back there and one way out. The whole

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<v Speaker 1>development only started about twelve fifteen years ago because it's

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful overlooking the High River. It's what it. It's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of high end individuals lived there and they

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<v Speaker 1>built their homes there. But there's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>ways in, not a lot of ways out, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, especially if you drove in. If you drove in,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to drive out the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, And I bet they have footage of something today.

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<v Speaker 1>But Karen Johnson, you and Brian Hamrick are the best

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<v Speaker 1>there is at this and once again, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on The Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 2>And thank you, Karen, thank you for having me have

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<v Speaker 2>a good day.

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you Rol. Let's continue with more. And what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening with area police departments is it's bad for business

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<v Speaker 1>and families don't want to publicize the fact they've been

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<v Speaker 1>robbed because that's unsettling and it's bad for the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what's going on. But the eighty to ninety

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<v Speaker 1>teams of ten to twenty members each and that's out

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<v Speaker 1>of Chile and out of Venezuela, and that's what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>You're informed. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WW
