Speaker 1: My Billy Cunningham, the great American. Of course, once again,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati made the national news last night with Lester Holt
Speaker 1: all over the place on CNN and Fox News this
Speaker 1: morning because to the burglary of Joe Burrow's home, which
Speaker 1: may be connected to the South American gangs. But who
Speaker 1: knows the person that broke the story? The power of
Speaker 1: five those five radars are constantly moving all over the
Speaker 1: tri State is Karen Johnson and Karen Johnson, Welcome again
Speaker 1: to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Karen, first of all,
Speaker 1: as we sit here this early Wednesday afternoon, can you
Speaker 1: tell the American people the facts as we know them
Speaker 1: to be at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so crazy. One out of Anderson Township,
Speaker 2: Monday night football Joe Burrows in Dallas, right around the
Speaker 2: same time as kickoffs, a woman who said who was
Speaker 2: staying at Joe Burrow's house in Anderson Township called her
Speaker 2: mom called nine one one said the house was broken
Speaker 2: into through a back window, a bedroom window. It was
Speaker 2: shattered and she said the bedroom there had been ransacked.
Speaker 2: The one thing that was interesting at the time, according
Speaker 2: to the radio dispatch and my one cause we got
Speaker 2: there was a Hamilton County off duty deputy doing a
Speaker 2: security detail at the house at least at the time
Speaker 2: that the break in was discovered, and as it stands
Speaker 2: right now, there has been no arrest. Hamilton County Sheriff's
Speaker 2: office cannot tell me at this point if they think
Speaker 2: it's linked to the other burglaries that are targeting high
Speaker 2: profile sports stars like Chravis, Chelsey, Patrick Mahomes. They all
Speaker 2: had their homes broken into in October.
Speaker 1: We also have I know of several I won't say
Speaker 1: friends of mine, but acquaintances living in Indian Hill that
Speaker 1: had their homes broken into and the same way. And
Speaker 1: the rangers in Indian Hill want to keep that a
Speaker 1: bit quiet because it's not good for business. But going
Speaker 1: back in time, do you know whether the games the
Speaker 1: kickoff was about eight fifteen or so, and the woman
Speaker 1: called about eight pm. She called nine to one one.
Speaker 1: We've all heard the tape and she called her mom,
Speaker 1: who I think New York City, who had then routed
Speaker 1: it back to Hamleton County. But is it possible that
Speaker 1: the so called burglary took place many hours before that,
Speaker 1: before the woman was in the house, and before the
Speaker 1: deputy sheriff got there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good possibility because when she reported, they asked,
Speaker 2: you know, if there was a burglary in progress or
Speaker 2: if it was kind of just discovered, and it was
Speaker 2: just discovered at that time, and according to the incident report,
Speaker 2: it says she arrived at the house and found it
Speaker 2: broken into. Also on the incident report, it lists the
Speaker 2: time of the burglary anytime between one thirty Sunday afternoon
Speaker 2: and eight fifteen Monday night. So as far as we know,
Speaker 2: at least of what the deputies are realating to us
Speaker 2: is that's the time frame. So we don't know exactly
Speaker 2: when the burglary took place.
Speaker 1: So for those to speculate that the woman was there
Speaker 1: while the burglary was occurring, or the deputy sheriff was there,
Speaker 1: I understand he was in a Mark Carr sitting in
Speaker 1: the driveway listening to radio, which of course we encourage.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, it's completely possible that at one thirty pm
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, while Joe was gone, that the cop had
Speaker 1: not arrived yet and or the woman wasn't there. That's
Speaker 1: certainly possible.
Speaker 2: That is possible, because what we don't know at this
Speaker 2: point is what time the off duty cop started his
Speaker 2: security detail there.
Speaker 1: Do we know what was stolen from Joe Burrow's bedroom.
Speaker 2: We don't the incident report. Obviously, Joe wasn't there, so
Speaker 2: he doesn't know. You know, he didn't have a chance
Speaker 2: at least when the report was taken to go over
Speaker 2: and tell them what he thought it was stolen, and
Speaker 2: they said the woman gave a pretty non descript you know,
Speaker 2: of items that may have been taken, but at this point,
Speaker 2: none of that information has been released. At to talk
Speaker 2: with the fokesperson for the Sheriff's office too, and she
Speaker 2: told me she is not to paid any new information
Speaker 2: to be released today.
Speaker 1: And Karen Johnson, please go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2: No, I wanted to touch base because I am getting
Speaker 2: calls and I'm obviously working the story all day today.
Speaker 2: You mentioned Indian Hill. I have not been able to
Speaker 2: confirm that, but I have gotten some calls to check
Speaker 2: into that. I've also gotten a tip that maybe a
Speaker 2: few days higher to Joe's, there was another break in
Speaker 2: close by his house. So we're a work in all
Speaker 2: of that right now, trying to kind of connect the
Speaker 2: dots and see if there's more to this, more taking
Speaker 2: place in these two neighborhood locally.
Speaker 1: Either Channel five or others have drones up and in
Speaker 1: that area, it's kind of behind Coldstream Country Club. It's
Speaker 1: a heavily wooded area. It's kind of on the Ohio
Speaker 1: River and the cliffs. And to go back into that
Speaker 1: particular area, there's a gate and to go out the
Speaker 1: back of that house. I've been there, not to that house,
Speaker 1: but I've been in that friend of mine three doors
Speaker 1: down lives there, and it's a heavily wooded area. And
Speaker 1: so if somebody would break in the back of the
Speaker 1: house where the master bedroom is, can I use master anymore?
Speaker 1: Maybe primary? And the guy went through that window, is
Speaker 1: there any indication whether it was cut out or shattered?
Speaker 1: Because security normally the sound detectors would catch a shattered window.
Speaker 1: However it was cut out with suction cups, the shattering
Speaker 1: would not have taken place, in which case the noise
Speaker 1: wouldn't set off the alarm. So behind his house, can
Speaker 1: you tell the American people what is behind the home
Speaker 1: that someone could go into the wooded area because behind
Speaker 1: that house is Coldstream Country Club and a big parking lot.
Speaker 1: But that's one hell of a trek from Joe Burrow's
Speaker 1: house through the woods. Do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: How could someone have gotten.
Speaker 2: Out with the gates that would that would you know,
Speaker 2: take a lot of planning to fifty two that comes
Speaker 2: up you know that road, and then come up through
Speaker 2: the heavily wooded area through the back of his house.
Speaker 2: That is a possibility. We also though, if you think
Speaker 2: about it, where he lives, it is a gated community,
Speaker 2: but the gated community for cars but not for people walking.
Speaker 2: You could easily walk around the gates the way it's situated.
Speaker 2: So at this point we don't know. You know, the
Speaker 2: detectives are not saying if they think he came up
Speaker 2: through the wooded area, because that would be quite a hall,
Speaker 2: or if he may have came through the front and
Speaker 2: just not driven a car. But also you know you're
Speaker 2: out there those gates ogus frequently. Yeah, people coming and
Speaker 2: going constantly, so it's not like, you know, it's secure.
Speaker 2: But up to a point.
Speaker 1: In fact, someone at night, say Sunday evening, like at
Speaker 1: five thirty pm, you could drive around those gates that
Speaker 1: open up. It's simply a clicker and there's no guard there.
Speaker 1: You simply hit the clicker or the gates open. I've
Speaker 1: been there a couple of times where the gates are
Speaker 1: stuck open because the clickers aren't working. This isn't a
Speaker 1: master burglary situation where they had no I mean, it'd
Speaker 1: be easy to get someone back there. But I know
Speaker 1: the deputy sheriff is catching a lot of flak because
Speaker 1: how can a cop And Joe Burrow may say, you know,
Speaker 1: you pay a cop fifty bucks an hour to sit
Speaker 1: there mark police car and he's in his car and
Speaker 1: why didn't he Knowah Burgley was going on. Well, it
Speaker 1: could have taken place hours before he got there.
Speaker 2: That is possibility. It could have taken place before he
Speaker 2: got there. It also, I mean, if you look at
Speaker 2: the size of those houses back there, he's sitting in
Speaker 2: a vehicle in the front. Are you will you even
Speaker 2: here even if the glass was shattered in the back
Speaker 2: on the other side of the house, so you know,
Speaker 2: it's one deputy sitting, you know, doing a security detail,
Speaker 2: may not have known it's a huge house and.
Speaker 1: The woman in the house. Were there two people in
Speaker 1: the house or one? There was some reporting early on
Speaker 1: it was a woman and a guy. Was it only
Speaker 1: a woman to the best of your knowledge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So in the nine on one call, she's talking
Speaker 2: to a man and it sounds like she's saying asking
Speaker 2: the guy, saying are you are you you know a cop?
Speaker 2: Are you security? So it almost seems like she did
Speaker 2: not know the deputy who was doing the security detail,
Speaker 2: and she was a little confused of who he was.
Speaker 1: So as far as there is other similar burglaries, I'm
Speaker 1: personally aware of two people at Kenwa Country Club that
Speaker 1: had their homes broken into in a similar fashion. It
Speaker 1: was the second story. They were absent from the home.
Speaker 1: It was in February of last year, and they were
Speaker 1: down in their home down in Miami Beach area and
Speaker 1: someone put like deer cameras in a bush or a
Speaker 1: tree so they could monitor the house. Who was there,
Speaker 1: who was not there. They knew no one would be
Speaker 1: there because they had cameras indicating it. They took a ladder,
Speaker 1: went up to the second floor, used a cutting device.
Speaker 1: Instead of shattering the window, they used a cutting device
Speaker 1: with rubber and they pulled it away. They went in
Speaker 1: the house, stole a whole bunch of stuff, went out,
Speaker 1: came came back down. The window was left. Shall we
Speaker 1: say open because it was cut out and it was
Speaker 1: February of last year and it was it was shall
Speaker 1: we say, the pipes were frozen and all hell broke loose,
Speaker 1: and the rangers don't want to get the information out
Speaker 1: to scare people because otherwise you got problems. And there's
Speaker 1: other people that in the Blue Ash and Villa Hills
Speaker 1: area that have called me and said they had the
Speaker 1: same thing happened to them. And one of the rules
Speaker 1: is they monitor their property with cameras. They make sure
Speaker 1: who's in who's not there. They know that they go
Speaker 1: in and they have a ten minute time frame to
Speaker 1: get in and get out. They don't shatter windows, they
Speaker 1: cut them out, and they use a cloaking or masking
Speaker 1: device on signals from the house to in case there's
Speaker 1: a burglary alarm that is sent by signal. No one
Speaker 1: has a landline anymore. And that's how it's done. And
Speaker 1: what do you know about that whole situation that is.
Speaker 2: Scary to me. I can tell you this when with
Speaker 2: the deputy reported and you know in the nine of
Speaker 2: one caller, the woman she said quote the word shattered.
Speaker 2: They use the word shattered, So I don't know the situation.
Speaker 2: I can tell you when we put the drone up,
Speaker 2: you could see the back window and it was boarded up.
Speaker 2: So we don't know how they got into Joe Burrow's house.
Speaker 2: But you know, getting back to I understand a lot
Speaker 2: of police departments want to keep buy when they happen
Speaker 2: in nicer neighborhoods. But me, I'm talking to people in
Speaker 2: Borrow's neighborhood and blocks away. They want to know this
Speaker 2: stuff because if it's happening more than once, you know,
Speaker 2: they have a right to know. You know, I know
Speaker 2: one woman right now, she's adding extra security to her house.
Speaker 2: She doesn't live, she lives a few minutes away from
Speaker 2: Burrow because of this, and people who live in these
Speaker 2: communities have a right to know what's going on.
Speaker 1: And the other rule of these gangs is no injuries.
Speaker 1: If they have to confront someone, they get out because
Speaker 1: they don't want to kill or hurt anyone. But this
Speaker 1: is dangerous because the homeowner there was a homeowner and
Speaker 1: it was in Warren County two days ago that shot
Speaker 1: an intruder. I think you might have covered it, and
Speaker 1: thank god shots were fired and the bad guy's dead.
Speaker 1: But one of the rules of the South American gangs
Speaker 1: is no injuries, no deaths, don't confront We don't want
Speaker 1: to cause any more difficulty for us. And then if
Speaker 1: difficulty arises, they simply get them out of the country
Speaker 1: and bring in an the crew. I had an FBI
Speaker 1: agent retired tell me there's eighty to ninety gangs of
Speaker 1: five to ten members each operating all over the country.
Speaker 1: And this is something that it's scary as can be
Speaker 1: because I don't think they're going to go into a
Speaker 1: Cape Cod in Middletown, but they look for areas, especially
Speaker 1: young athletes that have a lot of bling. But then
Speaker 1: it also involved a couple of prominent families in Indian
Speaker 1: Hill and they're scared to death. They don't want to
Speaker 1: sleep in their house anymore. It's a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I know the with the NBA and the
Speaker 2: NFL players, you know them, seems to be the same.
Speaker 2: It's happening when the players are at a game. I
Speaker 2: think it was the Milwaukee Bucks. Bobby Portis he had
Speaker 2: his broken into and it was right up kickoffs, and
Speaker 2: it was the same situation. It was through a back window,
Speaker 2: through a bedroom window. It was ransacked. So there are
Speaker 2: striking similarities between the burglaries that we're finding, but again,
Speaker 2: Hamilton County Sheriffs not really seeing for sure if they
Speaker 2: believe this one is connected to the others.
Speaker 1: Of course you don't know, but to his all the
Speaker 1: earmarks and to get away from that house on the
Speaker 1: back end, I would say, it's almost impossible to leave
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's home and walk down the hill away from
Speaker 1: the high River, through all the woods to find a
Speaker 1: car to get you out of there. It didn't someone
Speaker 1: just walking around like Hyde Park or over the rhine. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you can't go out. That makes me believe that it
Speaker 1: was a car or a vehicle that went inside or
Speaker 1: through the gate which is not guarded and waited out front.
Speaker 1: The cop hadn't arrived yet. They did what they did
Speaker 1: in dark, got out within ten minutes and they're gone.
Speaker 1: That's one that's a guess on my part. Does that
Speaker 1: kind of fit with you with what you know at
Speaker 1: this point?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, we don't know at this point.
Speaker 2: We just they're not saying anything. But I'm sure if
Speaker 2: that is the case, you think with all those houses,
Speaker 2: you know, those high end homes right there, there has
Speaker 2: to be some high end security systems that have cameras
Speaker 2: facing the road. So I would think at this point
Speaker 2: there would be some kind of footage that shows something,
Speaker 2: especially if they have a time frame between one thirty
Speaker 2: Sunday and eight fifteen Monday. You know, they know what
Speaker 2: area they're looking for, they know what time they're asking
Speaker 2: the neighbors to go back look at the security cameras.
Speaker 2: But again that's something we don't know what the Testives
Speaker 2: have yet.
Speaker 1: And there's one way in and one way out there.
Speaker 1: It kind of branches off left and right, but there's
Speaker 1: one way back there and one way out. The whole
Speaker 1: development only started about twelve fifteen years ago because it's
Speaker 1: beautiful overlooking the High River. It's what it. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: A lot of high end individuals lived there and they
Speaker 1: built their homes there. But there's not a lot of
Speaker 1: ways in, not a lot of ways out, and so
Speaker 1: I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Correct, especially if you drove in. If you drove in,
Speaker 2: you have to drive out the same way.
Speaker 1: That's it, And I bet they have footage of something today.
Speaker 1: But Karen Johnson, you and Brian Hamrick are the best
Speaker 1: there is at this and once again, thank you for
Speaker 1: coming on The Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 2: And thank you, Karen, thank you for having me have
Speaker 2: a good day.
Speaker 1: I thank you Rol. Let's continue with more. And what's
Speaker 1: happening with area police departments is it's bad for business
Speaker 1: and families don't want to publicize the fact they've been
Speaker 1: robbed because that's unsettling and it's bad for the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: And that's what's going on. But the eighty to ninety
Speaker 1: teams of ten to twenty members each and that's out
Speaker 1: of Chile and out of Venezuela, and that's what's happening.
Speaker 1: You're informed. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WW