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<v Speaker 1>H h.

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<v Speaker 2>And we are back staring at those wicked looking eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>We got them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there we go button.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's cool man. I love looking at those eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>They're medicine.

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<v Speaker 3>You see what happens when you take two weeks off.

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<v Speaker 3>I forget how to do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, man, Life, life gets in the way. Getting

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<v Speaker 2>button is the last of our concerns. We are back

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<v Speaker 2>tonight with the big Foot Podts podcast, and you're excited

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<v Speaker 2>to have everybody back. It's been a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't feel like it though. For me, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of seemed like it it flew by. It just flew

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<v Speaker 2>by for me.

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<v Speaker 3>How much you pretty quick? Pretty quick?

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed like it went by pretty quick. Do anything

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<v Speaker 2>in your time off, Do anything your time off. How

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<v Speaker 2>cold is it up there? Yes, I mean it ain't

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<v Speaker 2>Illinois cold, but we both our blood got thinned out.

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<v Speaker 2>We ain't cut out stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>It's cold. We can probably low forties in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was fifty one degrees when I'm out my

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<v Speaker 2>truck today. I told my wife we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>move to the equator. We we came down here to

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<v Speaker 2>get out of the cold, man, And here we are

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<v Speaker 2>in what we consider cold well tonight we got agree

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<v Speaker 2>that's what guess with us. It's Daniel been while from

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<v Speaker 2>East e b r O. He's had some encounters and experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a lot of projects he's involved with, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's about as busy as you could get with the

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<v Speaker 2>things that he's involved with, promoting things podcasts. Plus he's

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<v Speaker 2>got some pretty good encounters that I think we can

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<v Speaker 2>give a listen to because every little bit of detail

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<v Speaker 2>that he can give us that somebody out there in

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<v Speaker 2>the woods might here, see, smell, you know, what not feel,

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<v Speaker 2>might add a little bit to the what their experience

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<v Speaker 2>and then make them a little bit more aware of

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on out there in the woods or whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, our mods, this Diane and Cashew, the heart

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<v Speaker 2>and soul of our page right now. They're the only

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<v Speaker 2>thing that's keeping us from crashing. And I want to

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<v Speaker 2>thank them out there and all the subscribers that out

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<v Speaker 2>there and the people in the chat that follow us.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've been getting a lot of support late and

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<v Speaker 2>I we really appreciate more than I ever expected, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's nice to have. So I want to thank

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<v Speaker 2>all them people out there for that. So let's go

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and bring Daniel on and let's get the show

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<v Speaker 2>started because he's got a lot of things that he

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<v Speaker 2>can talk about. Welcome Daniel, how you But.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I'm doing real good, real good. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>having me. This is awesome. Hey, real quick, I got

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you guys, where do you guys live when

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<v Speaker 1>you guys got fifty degree weather?

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<v Speaker 3>Right right?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Florida, Oh Lucy, I'm in Port San you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just about an hour north of West Palm Beach, about

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<v Speaker 4>two hours south of Daytona.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, my one of my oldest sisters. Yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's got a mile where she's at. She's in Fort Myers,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, but I'm over here in Virginia. Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>woke up to twelveth degree temperatures this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't miss it. We don't miss that. We're from

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<v Speaker 2>We're from central Illinois where they're dealing with that same

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<v Speaker 2>stuff right now. And we were always we got three

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<v Speaker 2>inches of snow, and I'll send a picture with a ruler.

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<v Speaker 2>I like, we got eight inches of sunshine, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, shut up rubbing it in, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But right we we got a good down here. We

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<v Speaker 2>know we do, but it's still a little bit colder than.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's cold for you guys. Yeah, I get bad,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was gonna. I didn't know that's where you

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<v Speaker 1>guys were located. I was like, wow, where are they

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<v Speaker 1>at because most of the country is getting cold temperature,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even here. Yeah, I mean coal for that's

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<v Speaker 1>cold for you guys. Yeah, Like I wish we had

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<v Speaker 1>shifty degrees up here because I mean the snow that

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<v Speaker 1>we got in our ear, I think it was like

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<v Speaker 1>five six inches we got, but then it was all

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<v Speaker 1>ice layered on top. So all our snow is hard,

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<v Speaker 1>crunching snow. It's finally starting to melt just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean the roads are all clear.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I was nothing with messing with my wife's brother.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this is just insane weather we're dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>down there. I had to wear a shirt with sleeves today.

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<v Speaker 2>This is nonsense. He's like, no layers, no layers, no man,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>I've I've had to wear my hoodie to work for

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<v Speaker 5>two weeks straight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, two weeks straight. I've only taken it off, and I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Got sons that wear I've got sons that wear hoodies

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<v Speaker 2>and it's one hundred and ten. Drives me crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love wearing my hood I got it right here,

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<v Speaker 1>just here. I mean, I'm comfortable here in the garage.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have a heater out here. But but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's comfortable right now. But I kept it here near

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<v Speaker 1>me if I got cool, because I mean, I'm right

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<v Speaker 1>up against the door, so I'm I got my uh

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<v Speaker 1>my fermals, my fermals on the bottom, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>got short sleeved on top of it, and I'm in sweatpants.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm pretty comfortable. Layer.

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<v Speaker 2>You look a little bit like you like you've lost

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<v Speaker 2>something less than I've seen you too.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we're talking about the beer. Yeah, yeah, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>keeping it short. Yeah, only because uh uh there's new

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<v Speaker 1>employment that's right around the corner, so I had to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of clean up for that, you know. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well yeah, we're working on that.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's let's let's talk about Let's let's dive right

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<v Speaker 2>in and talk a little bit about some of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that you're involved with, because you got your hands full

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<v Speaker 2>with some stuff, and then we'll get into your encounters

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<v Speaker 2>and things you've experienced.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I don't know where to begin. I guess, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing, I mean, I got stuff coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, we're hosting a local uh what I call

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<v Speaker 1>a big foot in lunch gathering. It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a town hall meeting. However, it's going to be at

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<v Speaker 1>a very cool location, which it's only an hour south

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<v Speaker 1>of me, and I've never been there, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant called Legendary Eats. Uh. Because I've already cut talked

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<v Speaker 1>to the owners and they were very cool. They were

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<v Speaker 1>totally all for me putting my little meeting there because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some of my research team we're going to be attending there,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're hoping anyone all set wants to come out

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<v Speaker 1>within the surrounding area or whatever. It's a free event.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing that's going to cost you is to

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<v Speaker 1>buy off the menu if you want to eat, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>eat with us. Uh. Their menu is very cool. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got some very tasty stuff on there. But the title

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<v Speaker 1>of their menu it's all big foot en cryptied bean

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<v Speaker 1>food items. So nice. Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that just for that? Is it just for that night?

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<v Speaker 2>Start Daniel? Is it just for that night that their

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<v Speaker 2>menus like that? Or is that all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's all the time. And yeah and that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the restaurant called Legend Legendary Eats, so and they're signed

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<v Speaker 1>that hangs outside of their diner, a cafe, whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>want to call it. And it's got the big Foot

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<v Speaker 1>on it, which is very cool. So cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, I was, like, where else to

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<v Speaker 1>have a place like that. I've been thinking about this

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. And then I say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't had a gathering since well it's probably been

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<v Speaker 1>on this a couple of years, so it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>me to do another gathering. And uh so yeah, anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that's like minded, it's interested or curious or again, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a story or an experience, we want you

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<v Speaker 1>to come out and join it. I mean February eighth

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<v Speaker 1>in Lexington, Virginia. So that's what we got coming up

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<v Speaker 1>for the next month. Of course, jumping ahead, uh up

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<v Speaker 1>to the month of May. I host group campouts twice

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<v Speaker 1>a year. The group campouts we do expedition. Uh it's

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<v Speaker 1>you expbedition style. We can't h we hike and explore.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh you know, we you know, we we put all

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<v Speaker 1>our gizmos and gadgets to the test, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, one way or another, we always experienced something. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it may not be always exciting from one

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<v Speaker 1>year to the next. I mean, you just never know

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<v Speaker 1>what to expect when you have these campouts. But our

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<v Speaker 1>campouts are in areas where there's been reported sightings. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very remote on the most part. Uh, Like there's one

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<v Speaker 1>area that we're currently working right now that we were

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<v Speaker 1>we were at back in October where reach there in May.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, we definitely we've already been in discussions of

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<v Speaker 1>what we want to do during that camp out. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do some uh specialized what I call steakouts.

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<v Speaker 1>Our group, our camp out, our base camp. It's out

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<v Speaker 1>there in the woods, but it's also into opening so

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<v Speaker 1>to get more our steakouts will be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>further into the woods where you actually got to get

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<v Speaker 1>deep into the woods, I mean, don't get wrongs where

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<v Speaker 1>you're Even though it's in an open area where our

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<v Speaker 1>camp is, you're still pretty far out there because it

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<v Speaker 1>takes you a good way to get out to that

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<v Speaker 1>open spive. Then of course from there you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>go further beyond a fun fact about our last group

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<v Speaker 1>camp out. Now, yeah, we came across some very cool stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>interesting structures and stuff like that, some possible tracks. However,

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<v Speaker 1>during the end of the camp site, my good friends

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<v Speaker 1>Melissa and David were still there at camp, and then

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<v Speaker 1>there was another couple that came down from Pennsylvania that

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<v Speaker 1>were camping with us. Well, that couple decided to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ride from camp the head down to the lake and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's a gate. Once you drive down through the

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<v Speaker 1>woods on this gravel road. You got a park of

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<v Speaker 1>this one little gravel spot. There's a gate there. And

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<v Speaker 1>then of course the lake is so far so farther back,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to hike your way back there because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't allow people to drive back there. However, when they

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<v Speaker 1>were pulling into the campsite, I'm sorry, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>brain fart trying to remember her name, but Paul's wife

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<v Speaker 1>went while her husband was pulling his truck in the park,

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<v Speaker 1>she was already looking over and looking at something. And

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind, she does not get out into the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't understand whild life. She don't know, she's never

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<v Speaker 1>really seen much of what it looks like and how

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<v Speaker 1>it's presented in the wild. She might have seen things

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<v Speaker 1>on TV, but to see things in person is a

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<v Speaker 1>whole different story. Her claim was like, she's telling her husband,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, there's a bear over there. There's a bear.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a bear right there, and she didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't share the details of this information. So after

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<v Speaker 1>they left and got back to camp, I started talking

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<v Speaker 1>her husband's like, you didn't tell me this information. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>what she saw when she was looking over her shoulder

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<v Speaker 1>as her husband was pulling in to the right, she's

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<v Speaker 1>looking over towards the gate and she's keep in mind

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<v Speaker 1>again she thinks it's the bear. She sees this bear

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<v Speaker 1>standing there on two feet behind the tree, and next

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<v Speaker 1>thing other, she's like, she's got her eyes locked on

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<v Speaker 1>it and she's seeing it, watching it. And from from

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<v Speaker 1>feet so fast and across that little fourth road into

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<v Speaker 1>the embankment and down through the woods. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I went off with this beard. And the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for anyone to understands black bears, we all

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<v Speaker 1>know that they are capable of they are able to

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<v Speaker 1>stand on two feet. They've been known to walk on

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<v Speaker 1>two feet, which is not that common, right, But the

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<v Speaker 1>way she described the speed was super fast and being

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<v Speaker 1>on two feet standing up, everybody on a camp was like,

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<v Speaker 1>whoa wait a minute, are you sure it was on

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<v Speaker 1>two feet and it ran real fast? You did not

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<v Speaker 1>see a bear and she described it it was the

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<v Speaker 1>most six feet tall. So I learned about this, and

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<v Speaker 1>they actually went back there and actually did a video reenactment,

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<v Speaker 1>well not not really a reenactment, but in the explanation

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<v Speaker 1>at the location we're having. They sent me that video. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>after I learned about this, they sent me the video

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<v Speaker 1>where Paul was recording his wife. I actually included in

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<v Speaker 1>our last little the film that I put together of

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<v Speaker 1>that whole camp out with our investigation and everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, there's details at the end of that film.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, I'm kind of excited because, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is this particular location before I have ever

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<v Speaker 1>camped there before. Well, I've actually camped there once several

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<v Speaker 1>years ago before we actually did our group camp out there,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've learned of various reports of sightings from bear

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<v Speaker 1>hunters that have seen them and then other reports from

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<v Speaker 1>people claim to see them on or Actually I had

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<v Speaker 1>a group of young guys thirty forty miles away in

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<v Speaker 1>another area off camped in. They saw my vehicle, my

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<v Speaker 1>Chevy Blazer that I had with my details on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess they felt the urge to stop and

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<v Speaker 1>talk to me, and they pull out their phone and

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<v Speaker 1>pull out this picture. And here's a picture of a

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<v Speaker 1>trackway and we in snow, maybe only a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>inches deep on this road, and there's how probably the

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<v Speaker 1>best look of tracks I've ever seen, and very clear,

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<v Speaker 1>just thing you can tell. These things are huge and

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<v Speaker 1>they're going down on the edge of this road, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking maybe it was something nearby. I said, wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, I asked him. I said, where are they from?

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<v Speaker 1>They named the location. It's like my job on drop

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<v Speaker 1>because at that point I've already camp there once. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, are you serious. So there's there's definitely a

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<v Speaker 1>bigfoot or we could say a monster, because these things

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<v Speaker 1>are huge. Based off of what I've seen on this picture,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a long trackway on this road and that

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<v Speaker 1>road is just on just on the outside of where

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<v Speaker 1>we can so, uh, yeah, there's there's some very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>activity that happens there. I mean, I've heard stories of

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<v Speaker 1>mountain lions up there, people have people have seen mountain

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<v Speaker 1>lines up there. I mean I have seen a black

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<v Speaker 1>panther or if you want to call it camp I

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<v Speaker 1>see a black cat, you know, in my main research

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<v Speaker 1>area in twenty fifteen, so I know they're around. So

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I kind of went off course. I explain

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<v Speaker 1>what we got going on here. We're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>camp out and everything, but I wanted to share that

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<v Speaker 1>because that's something I learned to after. Yeah, I don't apologize.

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<v Speaker 2>We love we love here and all of all the

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<v Speaker 2>experiences if you've come across I. I kind of want

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<v Speaker 2>to go back to something you you mentioned that. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's kind of by design when you have trails

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<v Speaker 2>that there are no militar y hicals, no electric bikes,

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<v Speaker 2>and the trail is six hundred yards before you get

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<v Speaker 2>to the tree line. I think that is by design

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<v Speaker 2>because most people don't want to make that six hundred

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<v Speaker 2>yard trek until you get to the trees, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. I think that's kind of by design.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's almost like a turn because we

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<v Speaker 2>come across that a lot in some of our research

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<v Speaker 2>areas where we're like, I want to get to that

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<v Speaker 2>set of trees, but it's a quarter mile away. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, it's it's a half a mile away.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see it, and it looks like an amazing area,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's all sun the entire way, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>you got to come back through and whatnot. It almost

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<v Speaker 2>seems like.

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<v Speaker 1>You can turn it absolutely. I mean, that's how it

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<v Speaker 1>is in most of the area. Like here in Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>we have what they call the George Washington National Forests,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course there's another you know, there's other national

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<v Speaker 1>forests are joined to it. However, if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the pattern or the territory of the George Washington National

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<v Speaker 1>Forest right here in Virginia, which is over one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty or one hundred and thirty plus thousand acres

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<v Speaker 1>of land, and that doesn't include the other territories that

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<v Speaker 1>are connects to you, like West Virginia and other forests

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<v Speaker 1>running the other states down south well well throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>national forest. You know, it depends on what area because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of different branches of the National Forest.

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<v Speaker 1>Like in my my main location, you could go in there.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the main Force road that runs through there. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have these primitive camp sites, and then of

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<v Speaker 1>course you have these other roads that branch off, but

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<v Speaker 1>you have to park and hype them in because they're

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<v Speaker 1>not made for you know, there's laws because there's gates

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<v Speaker 1>there said no vehicle will be on this point. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>foot traffic only, blah blah blah. Foot traffic. That includes

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<v Speaker 1>if you're hiking or if you're on horseback. They welcome

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<v Speaker 1>horseback riders as long as there's no motorized vehicle. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of that up here in Virginia, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't care where you go, what part of

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<v Speaker 1>the National courts you go, you're gonna find these. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's gates. There's very few, Like in my main area.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this gate. Well, I should let me back up.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this there's one particular road it goes up into

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<v Speaker 1>a high ridge. Now there's a gate on both ends,

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<v Speaker 1>and they do open them up only mainly during when

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<v Speaker 1>there's hunting seasons on you know. So yeah, because on

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<v Speaker 1>the one end, there's no driving up if you've got it,

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<v Speaker 1>because the way it goes up at a sharp angle

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<v Speaker 1>straight up the gates right on the bottom. So if

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<v Speaker 1>that gates closed, you better find a place somewhere nearby

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<v Speaker 1>the park and then go hike up it unless you're

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<v Speaker 1>on the other end. The other end is a few

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<v Speaker 1>miles out. If you go all the way around to

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<v Speaker 1>come back on it the gate, you could drive up

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<v Speaker 1>a little further until you hit that gate. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these roads have gates in them, but

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, there's only one gate one road that

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<v Speaker 1>has the access to open up throughout the different times

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<v Speaker 1>a year. Other than that, all these other gates stay

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<v Speaker 1>closed some of them. The only ones that have access

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<v Speaker 1>to them are your forest service people. You know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you're our emergency staff. If somebody went hike in

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<v Speaker 1>and got hurt up there, and they you know, had

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of call or hey, so and so is

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<v Speaker 1>up this low. Of course they have all their off

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<v Speaker 1>road gear equipment right up there. But which I've only

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<v Speaker 1>seen that happen one time so far. Hopefully nobody else

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<v Speaker 1>does nothing stupid to get hurt or whatever. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because people do go out there and they know they're

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<v Speaker 1>in a remote area, they can do what the heck

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<v Speaker 1>they want on the most part, especially when they want

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid or disregard the laws, you know, in safety

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<v Speaker 1>rules because you're in it. You're out there in the forest.

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<v Speaker 1>There's wild animals out there, and and the terrain. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's depends on where you're hiking or venturing into. The

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<v Speaker 1>terrain is not safe, you know. You know. So, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of that out there. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>study a lot of these areas off of geographical map

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Like some of the areas I've been to you,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I want to see what it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like on a geographical map, and also there's other areas

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<v Speaker 1>I have not been into. You So when I'm studying

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<v Speaker 1>these of these maps or the layers of the terrain,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, okay, this looks interesting. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, if I was a big foot, where

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<v Speaker 1>would I be hiding? You know. So I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>deep terrain, deep in these you know, these hallows between

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<v Speaker 1>these ridges, and look at Okay, there's water source there.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the areas I want to go vet your in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like I'll find something there, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I do a lot of research of studying,

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<v Speaker 1>of observing the maps uh. And on occasions I'll look

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<v Speaker 1>up I'll go on Google. I'll go on Google and

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<v Speaker 1>actually look up Google Earth of these locations. Sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>might you might find something I've heard. On some rare occasions,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say I have, but I've had others look

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<v Speaker 1>on Google Earth claim to have seen these images on

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<v Speaker 1>there that could be possible bigfoot. I mean, uh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna say it's not, but you know, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you know they're big?

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<v Speaker 3>But you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a doc a dark spot there. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>just a bear. You know here in Virginia show Yeah, yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>tree shadows and stuff like that. Yeah, I've seen a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that. But I mean, we have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of black bears right here in Virginia alone, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know they're up down the East Coat.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys had a lot of black bears there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes. Uh. Throughout my travels or when I say travels,

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<v Speaker 1>my hiking and them exploring, I've had a lotting kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of bears. On the most part, most of them have

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<v Speaker 1>been distant, but there's been a few close, close, uh encounters.

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<v Speaker 1>None of them have ever have ever been threatening in

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<v Speaker 1>any way shape or form because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand. On the most part, black bears are very

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<v Speaker 1>a bear one time. I didn't see it. It was on

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<v Speaker 1>the other on the outside of my tent. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just waking up, you know, and I was waking up.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, the hell and I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>you hear front and then you hear the paths of

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<v Speaker 1>it run off, because I think I spooked it. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I was more, I was still waking up.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, you know when you wake up in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning some night you're if you kind of drag

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<v Speaker 1>me and you're making your grunts noise and stretching or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you're doing to wake up. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was right there because I woke up. I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was alert enough to hear you can hear sniffing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then so I was like till I

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<v Speaker 1>made my noise out and then you hear like I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, and then you hear the paths run off

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<v Speaker 1>real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got up like that was a bear, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm like, I was like, he was awful clothes.

420
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<v Speaker 1>I said, bears usually bears don't. I don't know. I

421
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<v Speaker 1>never thought bears would come in that close, you know.

422
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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't have no food around. There's no food.

423
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<v Speaker 1>I always put my food away. That one particular moment,

424
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<v Speaker 1>after I got up and woke up in my thing,

425
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<v Speaker 1>I did look around. You can see bear. It can

426
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<v Speaker 1>be all around the camp and it was turrounding area.

427
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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, bears sniff around. I mean, you know, because

428
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<v Speaker 1>you know, most of the time, they're usually more active

429
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<v Speaker 1>at night. But most of my bears, I have seen

430
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<v Speaker 1>them during the daytime. So like they say, bears are

431
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<v Speaker 1>more nocturnal, it's not only the case. Again, most of

432
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<v Speaker 1>my sightings and bears were during the daytime. I've seen

433
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<v Speaker 1>them run outside of other people's campsites at night. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so, yeah, my area. What's that I said?

435
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<v Speaker 2>I said, we left out your podcast. I know that's

436
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<v Speaker 2>starting up and I don't want to forget about that.

437
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<v Speaker 2>You got a podcast?

438
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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, my podcast. Yeah. Well see,

439
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<v Speaker 1>I've I've been running my podcast for a good long

440
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<v Speaker 1>time now, but I've my last before I started up

441
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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five. It was actually a year with

442
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<v Speaker 1>my last podcast However, I got like four or five

443
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<v Speaker 1>new episodes going on for twenty twenty five. I'm bringing

444
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<v Speaker 1>it back and excuse me. A good friend of mine

445
00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that's based out here in Virginia it's actually reached out

446
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<v Speaker 1>to me and introduced something to me. He has a

447
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<v Speaker 1>studio here in Virginia and he's he does a podcast

448
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<v Speaker 1>and the name of his company it's a it's a

449
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<v Speaker 1>company and a podcast studio. It's called Media Squatch. And

450
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<v Speaker 1>when he started presenting this to me, he started explaining

451
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<v Speaker 1>a few things and gave me, hey, I want to

452
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<v Speaker 1>throw this out there. I want to throw the invitation

453
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<v Speaker 1>out to you, blah blah blah. And next you know,

454
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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, I'm really liking the idea of this.

455
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<v Speaker 1>I'm really liking this because I'm not in this like

456
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<v Speaker 1>for the money, so there's no money involved. Anyway. My

457
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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing is spreading awareness and putting the word out there.

458
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<v Speaker 1>The more we could do that excellent And that was

459
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<v Speaker 1>the biggest part of why I decided to join with

460
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<v Speaker 1>his network again, Media Swatch. My my podcast is e

461
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<v Speaker 1>c v r O Bigfoot Radio. Now. For the longest time,

462
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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I was doing the video podcast just

463
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<v Speaker 1>like this, and I decided to start charting my podcast

464
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<v Speaker 1>into on the turning into the radio platform. So a

465
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<v Speaker 1>lot of my video platform podcasts I just started abtracting

466
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<v Speaker 1>the audios from them and then use and towards my radio.

467
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<v Speaker 1>So now since I started back for the new year,

468
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<v Speaker 1>it's strictly all audio. I still use like the same

469
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<v Speaker 1>platform that you're using. I still use at myself and

470
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<v Speaker 1>then when they're done, I upload the audio to E C,

471
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<v Speaker 1>b R or Big Pot Radio. But yeah, we officially

472
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<v Speaker 1>just got everything moved over to his platform where you

473
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<v Speaker 1>can still listen to everything on your favorite podcast platform.

474
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:04.559
<v Speaker 1>It still gets distributed on you know, Spotify, all your

475
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<v Speaker 1>Apple podcasts, iHeartRadio, Pen Door and so forth. So but

476
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:12.880
<v Speaker 1>we end up you know again, I just decided to

477
00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:17.319
<v Speaker 1>join forces with him on media Squatch. And as I

478
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<v Speaker 1>was telling him, I said, when time permits, when I'm

479
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:20.880
<v Speaker 1>mad him to, I want to come down to a

480
00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:24.039
<v Speaker 1>studio because his studio is not just a studio, it's

481
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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a from what I've seen, he kind

482
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<v Speaker 1>of turned into a kind of like a souvenir gift shop.

483
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<v Speaker 1>You know. Uh, he's got merchandise for sale there he

484
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:35.680
<v Speaker 1>has his own store. He's got tons of shirts and merchandise,

485
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>which he actually sent me a few so I'm waiting

486
00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:43.519
<v Speaker 1>for that. They should be here very soon. So and uh,

487
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>he he put together some artwork for me. I showed

488
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<v Speaker 1>him what I already had going on, and then he says,

489
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<v Speaker 1>I want to put something together for you. If you

490
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>like it, that's cool, we can go with it. Or

491
00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:58.279
<v Speaker 1>he said no hard feelings, we don't. We leave it

492
00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>alone if you want. But he presented to me what

493
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 1>he did today, and I was like, dude, this is badass.

494
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I love this. Let's do this, you know. So so yeah,

495
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:11.039
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna actually end up putting on shirts for me

496
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>to promote, you know. And uh so yeah, I'll put

497
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<v Speaker 1>we put on shirts. Perhaps we'll sell them out my

498
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>event in June here in Virginia. But yeah, e C.

499
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<v Speaker 1>B r Oor Bigfoot Radio again. It can be heard

500
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:30.160
<v Speaker 1>on any of your favorite podcast platforms, you know. Uh,

501
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.319
<v Speaker 1>I still use my YouTube channel. I try to mainly

502
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.759
<v Speaker 1>use my YouTube channel now for research purposes, field videos,

503
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>any Bigfoot documentaries that I plan on putting together. One

504
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:47.079
<v Speaker 1>of the things, like with our last camp out, I

505
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>actually put to get well they ain't the only one.

506
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I've done a couple of them independently. I put together

507
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:56.039
<v Speaker 1>my own documentaries. Uh you know, a lot of it

508
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>was filmed with Like my two documentaries, they were filmed

509
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:02.799
<v Speaker 1>usually just use my phone, and I actually surprived myself.

510
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought I did pretty good, was just using my phone. However,

511
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:12.039
<v Speaker 1>I have I've had a camcorder, a really nice camp order.

512
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 1>I just haven't really put it to use much since

513
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:19.119
<v Speaker 1>I've owned it, but I'm working on putting that more

514
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.319
<v Speaker 1>to use, kind of getting familiar with that camp order.

515
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:26.759
<v Speaker 1>It's a Canon a X one ten row. It's like

516
00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>a seventeen dollars camera that I got a real good

517
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<v Speaker 1>deal on. I took a chance and gambled. I bought

518
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:37.680
<v Speaker 1>it used nowhere near that price, trust me. But again

519
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I took the chance and started playing around with it,

520
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.519
<v Speaker 1>started using it, and I am extremely impressed with it.

521
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I said, you know, for the price of what this

522
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:49.799
<v Speaker 1>goes for a brand new and for what I paid

523
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>for it, I said, you can't be any happier. It's

524
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>it's nice. It's even got built in night vision, so

525
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 1>the night VISI on it is good if you're up close,

526
00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, and It works pretty good, but it's I

527
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<v Speaker 1>used my I have external night vision devices that I

528
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<v Speaker 1>could add to that, to add to it and actually

529
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:13.079
<v Speaker 1>puts out there over twenty thirty feet you know, from

530
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:17.640
<v Speaker 1>doing close parts. Yeah, and it works great as long

531
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:21.119
<v Speaker 1>as you have a device that's you know, IR cap

532
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, with capabilities. You can add extra attachment

533
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>to it which will project and prighten up and add

534
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>more distance. So that's what I did. So, yeah, we

535
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<v Speaker 1>did a little bit of that. I used a little

536
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<v Speaker 1>bit on the last group camp out back in October

537
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and which I did a lot of the filming right

538
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:42.799
<v Speaker 1>around it, mainly around the campsite. I did not take

539
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the camera out in the woods too much, you know,

540
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I just kept it. Like I said, I mainly used

541
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>it around the campsite area while we were sitting around

542
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the fire. I did one of my interviews with another

543
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:58.039
<v Speaker 1>individual at night with it. Most of my interviews I

544
00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>try to do them during the day. I thought, hey,

545
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:02.799
<v Speaker 1>let's whe now, let's let's do one at night. I

546
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>think that'll look cool on here, you know. So yeah,

547
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>but that's pretty much what I've been doing with you know,

548
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>ecd R big Foot Radio podcast, and like I said

549
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>talking going back to the whole camp out there. Our

550
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>next camp out in May, we will be doing some

551
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:25.079
<v Speaker 1>more filming where you actually got to fill our film

552
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>project actually taking place during that time where our filming

553
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>is going to start taking place, we are working on

554
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:35.119
<v Speaker 1>a YouTube series. It's going to be basically a documentary

555
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>style documentary series. You know, we want to see how

556
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that pans out. If it goes in our favor, they will.

557
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:47.319
<v Speaker 1>There's another network that we've been talking to after we

558
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:51.319
<v Speaker 1>put together what we got. If it's something it's good

559
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:55.880
<v Speaker 1>enough for them that they get picked up under their network.

560
00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:00.359
<v Speaker 1>So so we'll see. It's kind of one of things

561
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>we got to be careful and take our time and

562
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, and uh kind of play it by ear.

563
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>But there's a lot going on with that then. Of course,

564
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>as far as other events go, my annual ECBRO Virginia

565
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Big Book Conference, it happens every June. This year is

566
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<v Speaker 1>happening June twentieth and June twenty first. It's a two

567
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:24.359
<v Speaker 1>day event. I mean, I've been getting blown up with

568
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>speakers now that we're I'm not excuse me, not speakers, vendors.

569
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Our speakers are already accounted for We already got them booked,

570
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.599
<v Speaker 1>but vendors. My emails have been blown up with vendors.

571
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>People want to sign up left and right. So as

572
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:39.839
<v Speaker 1>of right now, we got we already got like twenty

573
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>vendors right now, and we got room for a lot more.

574
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:48.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the indoor space is being filled up. Yeah.

575
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>We we have a venue. It's an indoor it's a

576
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>very large building. We have indoor vendors upstairs or where

577
00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:59.079
<v Speaker 1>the speakers take place, and then we have outside. We're

578
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:01.759
<v Speaker 1>going to be filled up the out side before long

579
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:05.440
<v Speaker 1>with vendors. We had a nice setup last year with

580
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>the vendors, but this year we're having a mid evil

581
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:15.079
<v Speaker 1>renaissance group come in. They're gonna have a couple of

582
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:20.359
<v Speaker 1>setups on the inside. However, on the outside they're gonna

583
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:22.200
<v Speaker 1>be setting up I'm gonna have I'm gonna have them

584
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:26.680
<v Speaker 1>placed in the middle of all the vendors outside. You know,

585
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I've never been to a renaissance fair. I've always wanted

586
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:32.839
<v Speaker 1>to go check one out. But this got presented to

587
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<v Speaker 1>me by someone who organizes a group of renaissance individuals

588
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:39.559
<v Speaker 1>and they do a lot of reenactments. They dressed the

589
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>part well they want to put on battles and demos,

590
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, whoa. They set me, you know,

591
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>set me pictures of what it looks like what they're doing.

592
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:53.720
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna put together a promo flyar for that.

593
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think that alone is going to bring in

594
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<v Speaker 1>a crowd itself. I'm kind of I'm pumped up and

595
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:02.400
<v Speaker 1>excited to see that. I think once the public starts

596
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>seeing that, hey, wait a minute, this is a big

597
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:08.599
<v Speaker 1>Foot event and they're they're going to be they're having

598
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>this too. You know, I want something for everybody, you know,

599
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't want just like you know, I do whatever

600
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>it's possible to bring in skeptics. I don't care if

601
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:22.719
<v Speaker 1>you're a believer or not. I want everybody to enjoy themselves.

602
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:26.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, this is a community event that's grown. I

603
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>mean we've had guest speakers from out of state. We've

604
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<v Speaker 1>had attendees from out of state, you know. I mean

605
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:36.559
<v Speaker 1>we get people from Washington State on Texas. Yeah, We've

606
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<v Speaker 1>had Florida come up. You know. So most of my

607
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:44.239
<v Speaker 1>speakers this year are all coming down from Pennsylvania. I

608
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:49.800
<v Speaker 1>think we have a shoot. I think they're all from Pennsylvania.

609
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I can't think right off the top of my head,

610
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<v Speaker 1>but I know three out of the four. I could

611
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<v Speaker 1>be wrong. Maybe I'm missing somebody, but I know three

612
00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:59.559
<v Speaker 1>of them. Maybe four of them are coming from Pennsylvania.

613
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that information is on your via bigfoot

614
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:06.400
<v Speaker 2>dot com site, right it should be.

615
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I need to go through my main website and

616
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>update it because there's some information I may have left out,

617
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:14.800
<v Speaker 1>so I need to add to that. On my main

618
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<v Speaker 1>Facebook event page, the Ecbureau Annual Virginia Big for a Conference,

619
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<v Speaker 1>I do update that as much as possible, So if

620
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<v Speaker 1>you brow through the different sites on there, the different posts,

621
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:29.119
<v Speaker 1>you should see information on there where I try to

622
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<v Speaker 1>keep updated on that. So that's something I'm going to

623
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<v Speaker 1>be staying focused on here. As promoting and marketing to

624
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<v Speaker 1>the event, I'm going to be doing this a lot

625
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<v Speaker 1>more than I did last year because last year I

626
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.320
<v Speaker 1>did not promote my Virginia event as big as I

627
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:45.800
<v Speaker 1>should have, only because I was actually hosting and putting

628
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:48.840
<v Speaker 1>on an event in Pennsylvania for the first time. That

629
00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:51.840
<v Speaker 1>event got more attention than anything, and we had a

630
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:57.559
<v Speaker 1>very beautiful successful turnout there. Again, all my attention went

631
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>to that event and I failed too cool neglect my

632
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Virginia event. Although we get out of we had a turnout,

633
00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 1>but not as big as what we normally do. So yeah,

634
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:11.199
<v Speaker 1>but this year, I think I feel very positive. I

635
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:14.880
<v Speaker 1>think some big things are happening. Uh, we'll see what

636
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:18.199
<v Speaker 1>happened here. Yeah, I'm feeling very positive about it. I

637
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>really am, considering I've had some situations personally going on

638
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:24.760
<v Speaker 1>that put me down on a damper. You know, I

639
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>see some good things happening, you know, all around.

640
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we get all you positivity and and good things,

641
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:33.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, absolutely, and that's good to hear. What Let's

642
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:36.239
<v Speaker 2>let's get into some of your let's get in you

643
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 2>have it. If I remember right, you have an encounter

644
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:42.400
<v Speaker 2>of multiple at one time.

645
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, I mean there's a lot of different things.

646
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Don't spare the details. Give us all the details, man,

647
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:57.159
<v Speaker 2>don't because uh, I've heard almost all of it, but

648
00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:01.679
<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard all of it. And and I really

649
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:04.719
<v Speaker 2>really am I because I'm gonna ask you a couple

650
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.840
<v Speaker 2>of questions. They're not put you on the spot questions.

651
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>These Oh no, that's okay.

652
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these are questions that I don't think people have

653
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:17.199
<v Speaker 2>asked them a certain way to vindicate somebody who's actually

654
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:20.280
<v Speaker 2>had an encounter. So let's let's list hear.

655
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:24.639
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear about, well, my twenty fourteen encounter.

656
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, again, I've shared it like numerous times, so

657
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I get I kind of give you the details. I'll

658
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:32.599
<v Speaker 1>be honest with you for those who ever, I mean,

659
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>the more and more I repeat, I was like, I've

660
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:39.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's kind of like it might be boring

661
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:43.440
<v Speaker 1>to some people, but you know when back when it happened,

662
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.320
<v Speaker 1>it was exciting to me, and it was exciting to

663
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:51.800
<v Speaker 1>those who were included in this. You know, most people,

664
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.559
<v Speaker 1>when you hear about the reports or their sightings, it's

665
00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:57.400
<v Speaker 1>usually just a one on one thing or maybe somebody

666
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:02.400
<v Speaker 1>else was with them. But my I twenty fourteen encounter,

667
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>this is my visual encounter. I mean I've had other

668
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>experiences along the way and here and there, but for

669
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>a visual this was the only visual I could ever

670
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:18.559
<v Speaker 1>really account for it. So during my twenty fourteen group

671
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:23.880
<v Speaker 1>camp out, there were six of us that that was

672
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:26.800
<v Speaker 1>part of the camp out, you know, and the campout

673
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>was for a whole week long and May third, twenty fourteen,

674
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.519
<v Speaker 1>after the group of us were spending time out in

675
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:41.800
<v Speaker 1>the woods doing some hiking during the daytime exploring. We

676
00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:44.800
<v Speaker 1>decided by the time we came back to camp, hey

677
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:48.360
<v Speaker 1>let's rest, let's kind of relax, get something to eat,

678
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:52.119
<v Speaker 1>and you know, we more or less, you know, pretty

679
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:56.639
<v Speaker 1>much chilled out there at camp. Well, somebody brought up

680
00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I forget who it was, but somebody brought up like, hey, hey,

681
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:02.599
<v Speaker 1>let's go out tonight. And of course I was all

682
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:04.679
<v Speaker 1>for it. I mean, I was like, yeah, we're here

683
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.920
<v Speaker 1>for We're here to explore, We're here to investigate. You know,

684
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have fun with I'm sorry, I'm sorry about that.

685
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I kicked my try Yeah, I had my phone sitting

686
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:22.519
<v Speaker 1>on my tripod and I kicked it over. So but yeah,

687
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:25.519
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, like I said, uh, I said, yeah, we'll

688
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:30.039
<v Speaker 1>do that for sure. So I want to say it

689
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:32.400
<v Speaker 1>was in the evening, but it was still daylight when

690
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:36.800
<v Speaker 1>when we decided to step away from camp, uh, you know,

691
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>leave camp. We got together again. It was in the evening,

692
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:43.440
<v Speaker 1>it was still daylight, and what we decided to do

693
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:46.159
<v Speaker 1>is there's a lake in the area. The lake was

694
00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:49.360
<v Speaker 1>almost a mile from where our camp was, so we

695
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:51.679
<v Speaker 1>just sat out on foot head down to the lake,

696
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:57.639
<v Speaker 1>and we decided, yeah, why not, let's just walk down

697
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:00.679
<v Speaker 1>there and head down there. And what was nice about it.

698
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:02.559
<v Speaker 1>By the time we got down there, we realized there

699
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:06.639
<v Speaker 1>was nobody there because usually there's people fishing, but there

700
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:08.760
<v Speaker 1>was not one person out there. So I was like, man,

701
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:11.159
<v Speaker 1>this is awesome. We got this whole lake to ourselves.

702
00:40:11.800 --> 00:40:15.000
<v Speaker 1>So what we did we decided, okay, let's split up,

703
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and we split up in Paris of two because we

704
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>had a couple that came all the way down from Vermont,

705
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:25.599
<v Speaker 1>Kimmy and Darren and less Darren still he's actually no

706
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>longer here now. Yeah, he actually passed away about a

707
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:34.760
<v Speaker 1>year ago. But anyway, Kimmy and Darren was with us,

708
00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:38.920
<v Speaker 1>and it was me, a gentleman by the name of

709
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Cliff Stanley, my buddy Tracy Arnold, and his son, his

710
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:46.400
<v Speaker 1>son Elijah there. He was only about fourteen at the time.

711
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:51.599
<v Speaker 1>So the six of us, yeah, we spread around the lake,

712
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:54.039
<v Speaker 1>and Kimmy and Darren, we we let them stay. At

713
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of late there's actually a little peninsula that

714
00:40:56.559 --> 00:40:59.800
<v Speaker 1>goes out and well it used to be a bed share.

715
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Ben is no longer there. I don't know somebody destroyed

716
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:04.800
<v Speaker 1>that thing, but it was nice to have out there.

717
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>But uh, anyway, by the time we got settled, it

718
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:11.280
<v Speaker 1>spread out around the lake, it was already starting to

719
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>get dark, and but we all had radio communication, and we,

720
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody at a radio. We stayed in communication

721
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:25.920
<v Speaker 1>with each other, and we you know, we didn't really

722
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:30.400
<v Speaker 1>have much going on, but it got to the point

723
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:34.400
<v Speaker 1>where I radio down to Kimmy. Now, one thing I

724
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:37.320
<v Speaker 1>like to brag about this because Kimmy, for anyone who's

725
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:44.679
<v Speaker 1>ever heard a Bobo from Finding Bigfoot give off his vocalization. Yeah, Kimmy.

726
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Now keep in mind, she's just the short little thing.

727
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy's small, but I've always been impressed by her vocalizations.

728
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:56.519
<v Speaker 1>But the one thing I'll brag about is Kimmy has

729
00:41:56.559 --> 00:42:00.599
<v Speaker 1>a settled lungs on her and but when she deservoualization,

730
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:06.119
<v Speaker 1>I swear it's the female version of Bobo. So she's like,

731
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:09.400
<v Speaker 1>really good at what she does. So I was like, Kimmy,

732
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm on the radio. I was like, hey, go ahead

733
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and give off one of your vocalizations. And then meanwhile

734
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.559
<v Speaker 1>everyone else kind of quiet and chill out, you know,

735
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>So sure enough we're all quiet, We're waiting for Kimmy

736
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.239
<v Speaker 1>to sound off, and then she sounds off. She gives

737
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:29.320
<v Speaker 1>off a good vocalization, and then after she's done, we're

738
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:35.280
<v Speaker 1>all listening. And while we're listening, within mo probably a

739
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:39.440
<v Speaker 1>good ten seconds or so, probably from the opposite ridge

740
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>from where we all were, we do get a response,

741
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:46.199
<v Speaker 1>not entirely show what it was. It could have been

742
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:49.039
<v Speaker 1>a coyote or something, but we did get a pile back,

743
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:52.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, from her vocalization. So that kind of gave

744
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:54.480
<v Speaker 1>us a little, you know, ampus up a little bit.

745
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:56.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, I was like, okay, maybe got something going

746
00:42:56.679 --> 00:43:01.840
<v Speaker 1>on now, But after that nothing, we had nothing else

747
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:06.719
<v Speaker 1>going on now here it is is dark outside. We're

748
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:11.880
<v Speaker 1>all still spreading around the lake. Kneecliff, then Tracy and

749
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>his son Elijah, and then Kimmy and Darren down on

750
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:18.559
<v Speaker 1>the other end, and a couple of us had parabolic microphones,

751
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:21.599
<v Speaker 1>more the ones we had at the time. They're known

752
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:25.719
<v Speaker 1>as bionic years. They worked real good. They work pretty good.

753
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:29.079
<v Speaker 1>They pick up sound up to three hundred feet. But

754
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:32.039
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind, from where we were at around the lake,

755
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:35.880
<v Speaker 1>there was a ridge right up behind us, and you know,

756
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:37.960
<v Speaker 1>we were here and stuff. We ended up starting to

757
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:41.719
<v Speaker 1>hear a few things, like some limb snapping, sounded like

758
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:45.840
<v Speaker 1>there was some football up there, but most of the

759
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:47.960
<v Speaker 1>time I think it was probably just deer or all

760
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:51.679
<v Speaker 1>the wildlife moving in. You know. So at time I

761
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:54.960
<v Speaker 1>had gone by and like we weren't getting no activity,

762
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:59.400
<v Speaker 1>we weren't really hearing anything, and we decided to, hey, guys,

763
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:02.840
<v Speaker 1>it's really late, let's regroup, let's head back to camp.

764
00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:08.480
<v Speaker 6>Well, we're headed back to camp, and keep in mind,

765
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:11.039
<v Speaker 6>at this time it's really late, and the time was

766
00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:15.119
<v Speaker 6>probably around midnight, and we're walking front when we all

767
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:15.400
<v Speaker 6>ask to.

768
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Bathe regrouped and decided to head back to camp. You know,

769
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:21.440
<v Speaker 1>we got our headlights on and we're walking and we're

770
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 1>walking a single fire line and I'm actually leading everybody.

771
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the praise front. We're all talking in normal tone,

772
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.719
<v Speaker 1>and uh as we're walking out, you know, I look

773
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:35.679
<v Speaker 1>up and I was like, oh, whoa, okay, cool, there's

774
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:39.679
<v Speaker 1>a deer walking right towards us, like just nonchalantly, just

775
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>walking right towards us. It's like, whyd this deer scared?

776
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:45.360
<v Speaker 1>It should have already ran off, But sure enough, the

777
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:48.039
<v Speaker 1>deer just like maybe ten feet out in front of me.

778
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 1>It just like takes his time. It turns off nonchalantly,

779
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and just like you know, continues it further disappears further

780
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>into the Dartmt. You know. You know again, I know

781
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:02.119
<v Speaker 1>the deer smart around that area. It's like they know

782
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:04.719
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't hunting seasons, so they weren't spook. I know.

783
00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:07.760
<v Speaker 1>But even then, a deer that close should have been spook.

784
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:10.039
<v Speaker 1>They should have like took, you know, jolted off, but

785
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:13.280
<v Speaker 1>it didn't. It was like, hey, like, I don't know

786
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:14.719
<v Speaker 1>what to think of it, and I thought that was

787
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:20.519
<v Speaker 1>odd for some reason. But after it turned off and disappeared,

788
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.559
<v Speaker 1>I noticed that. Okay, well, after a disappeard, We're walking

789
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:29.159
<v Speaker 1>along and all of a sudden something catches my attention

790
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:33.519
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, what the heck is that. I

791
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:36.400
<v Speaker 1>stopped in my tracks and I'm looking. I'm trying to

792
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.039
<v Speaker 1>focus my eyes because you know, my headlamp, my headlamp

793
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:43.440
<v Speaker 1>is reflecting off something. And don't get me wrong, for

794
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:48.320
<v Speaker 1>the first my first initial spot was, okay, I'm picking

795
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:51.159
<v Speaker 1>up one of the little reflective signs. Sometimes throughout the

796
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:55.320
<v Speaker 1>National Forest, there's RaSE these little signs, little yellow signs

797
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:58.159
<v Speaker 1>and usually all they say is no vehicles beyond this point,

798
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:01.199
<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking, that's what I'm paying picking up. But

799
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:03.320
<v Speaker 1>it was kind of like it wasn't it was fuzzy,

800
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:05.639
<v Speaker 1>it was blurry. I was like, then all of a

801
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:08.880
<v Speaker 1>sudden it became a focus. That's where I realized it

802
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:13.000
<v Speaker 1>actually blinked. And when it blinked it I realized it

803
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:15.760
<v Speaker 1>was actually a set of eyeshine looking at me. I

804
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:18.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, what the heck is that? And from my

805
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>distance and want to look at it was kind of

806
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:24.000
<v Speaker 1>setting kind of low. And my buddy Tracy was the

807
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.519
<v Speaker 1>next one behind me. I said, Tracy, what the heck

808
00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:28.679
<v Speaker 1>is that he's seeing? He's looking right at what I'm

809
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:31.320
<v Speaker 1>looking at, and our head lamps wereke glued on all

810
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:34.679
<v Speaker 1>you see these bright looking, yellow looking eyes and they

811
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:38.320
<v Speaker 1>were kind of setting kind of low. And when he's

812
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:40.519
<v Speaker 1>noticed it, I was like, is that a freaking mountain lion?

813
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Of course I use other language at the time, because

814
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like kind of pumped up. I don't know

815
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.000
<v Speaker 1>why I was. I didn't know what to think. And

816
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:50.559
<v Speaker 1>I was like, we're staring at this and we watch

817
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:53.400
<v Speaker 1>it like jet off, like it chose out of the area, like,

818
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>what the heck next? You know, Tracy's telling the rest

819
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:57.480
<v Speaker 1>of the group, guys, get up here. We got some

820
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:00.320
<v Speaker 1>eye shine. It was exciting because we we we just

821
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:02.559
<v Speaker 1>weren't able to identify it at that time. You know,

822
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:05.599
<v Speaker 1>it could have been anything. So we get up into

823
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:07.760
<v Speaker 1>the area. We all regroup and we're in that very

824
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.559
<v Speaker 1>single spot where we've seen that set eye shine, and

825
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:14.119
<v Speaker 1>we're all standing together in our little cusser group and

826
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>we're looking down in the woods. And to keep in mind,

827
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:18.920
<v Speaker 1>from where we were standing, the ground did slip down

828
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:21.800
<v Speaker 1>settle feet and the level back out, and we're looking

829
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:24.440
<v Speaker 1>down there and all of a sudden, but there it

830
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:27.159
<v Speaker 1>is again, a good between thirty and forty feet out.

831
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:31.039
<v Speaker 1>Now it was in I guess what you would call

832
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:32.800
<v Speaker 1>a clearing because there was a lot of trees and

833
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:35.480
<v Speaker 1>bushes in there. But we picked up the set of

834
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:38.159
<v Speaker 1>eyeshine again. And even though we're looking down at it,

835
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:42.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can still tell we estimated whatever that

836
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:44.519
<v Speaker 1>was at that time was about maybe no more than

837
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:48.760
<v Speaker 1>four feet tall. But here's the interesting thing about this

838
00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:51.360
<v Speaker 1>set of eye shine. Even though we're not picking up

839
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:54.000
<v Speaker 1>any physical details or seeing any shape, or anything. We're

840
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:57.400
<v Speaker 1>seeing the eye shine, and it was doing a sway

841
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:01.119
<v Speaker 1>in motion side to side pretty swiftly. You know, this

842
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.239
<v Speaker 1>is interesting. What the heck is this? And we're all

843
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:06.639
<v Speaker 1>focused on seeing this set of eye shine, just to

844
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:11.159
<v Speaker 1>see it, you know, going side to side pretty swiftly. Well,

845
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't even maybe it was less than five minutes.

846
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:17.639
<v Speaker 1>It was somewhere between two to three minutes or so.

847
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:21.079
<v Speaker 1>Over to the right of that one, maybe about another

848
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:24.199
<v Speaker 1>four or five feet or so, another set of eye

849
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>shine appeared, same color eye shine, a little larger, but

850
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:33.039
<v Speaker 1>also a little taller by at least two feet, easily

851
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:36.239
<v Speaker 1>two feet, So we have a four foot subject the

852
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:39.320
<v Speaker 1>swaying side to side. That like, I'm not registering what

853
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:41.079
<v Speaker 1>the heck this could be. And I'm very familiar with

854
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:44.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of wildlife in the area. And here we are,

855
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.840
<v Speaker 1>we have a second set of eye shine that's appearing.

856
00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:52.639
<v Speaker 1>It didn't have any movement except the eye shine blink

857
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:56.440
<v Speaker 1>a few times. That would make sense. Whatever we're looking at.

858
00:48:56.840 --> 00:48:58.760
<v Speaker 1>We all had someone us had some bright lights on

859
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:02.480
<v Speaker 1>our heads, you know. But then again it's just we

860
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:04.440
<v Speaker 1>believe it was just outside of that beam of light,

861
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:07.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just it wasn't making no sense. But

862
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.119
<v Speaker 1>we're looking at two sets of eyes, one swaying inside

863
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the side, the other one just looking at us with

864
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:17.719
<v Speaker 1>blinking its eyes on occasions, and so you know, it's

865
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:20.880
<v Speaker 1>like I'm basically almost scratching my head, you know, and

866
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:25.320
<v Speaker 1>not at all, not during one moment in my thinking

867
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:27.880
<v Speaker 1>that you know, these could be squatches. I'm not even

868
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:31.000
<v Speaker 1>thinking about Big Port, the sasquatch or anything at the moment.

869
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Then while we're all observing this, I start kind of

870
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:40.920
<v Speaker 1>looking around. I start slowly panning my eyes to the right,

871
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:44.159
<v Speaker 1>and you can see some bushes, you can see the trees,

872
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's really dark. But all of a sudden, my

873
00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:52.360
<v Speaker 1>headlamp or whatever, I'm picking up another set of eye shine,

874
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:55.880
<v Speaker 1>a third set of eye shine. This third set of

875
00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:58.039
<v Speaker 1>eye shine looked like it was literally almost on the

876
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:01.559
<v Speaker 1>ground itself, and it's like I'm staring at it. I'm

877
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.920
<v Speaker 1>like my eyes are glued on it. And all of

878
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:07.559
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, while I'm staring at this third set of eyeshine,

879
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm watching it kind of grow like raise up, and

880
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:15.639
<v Speaker 1>like it was slow, but it kept raising up. I

881
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:17.679
<v Speaker 1>watched it. I kept my eyes on it. And it

882
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:20.519
<v Speaker 1>came over top of the bushes, and by the time

883
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:23.920
<v Speaker 1>it stopped, I swear to you, is stopped another two

884
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:26.159
<v Speaker 1>feet over top from the six foot one, the one

885
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:29.280
<v Speaker 1>that we estimated to be six foot. So now here

886
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:32.920
<v Speaker 1>we are, we have three different sets of eyes at

887
00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:36.599
<v Speaker 1>three different sets of height levels, a four foot, six

888
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:39.400
<v Speaker 1>foot and another two feet taller. So there was our

889
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:43.880
<v Speaker 1>eight foot. Now my buddy Tracy, he was watching some

890
00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:47.000
<v Speaker 1>of the two and he's the one that spoke up

891
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:51.679
<v Speaker 1>and said, guys, we got squatches. Now, as I tell everybody,

892
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to believe that. I really did. I just

893
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:57.360
<v Speaker 1>needed something more to confirm that because we're just seeing

894
00:50:57.360 --> 00:50:59.920
<v Speaker 1>eye shines. We're not seeing no physical shapes, we're not

895
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:05.360
<v Speaker 1>seeing no details and nothing, just eye shine. Well, it

896
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:09.159
<v Speaker 1>did get a little interesting because that tall one actually

897
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:12.400
<v Speaker 1>made a maneuver. It turned to its left, or at

898
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.239
<v Speaker 1>least appeared to it turned to its left and had

899
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:18.039
<v Speaker 1>taken a step or two. And then when it turned

900
00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:21.360
<v Speaker 1>back looking right back of us, back at us, blinking

901
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:26.280
<v Speaker 1>his eyes. Well, I believe the light, the light and

902
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:29.320
<v Speaker 1>angle and position, everything just worked together all at once,

903
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:35.639
<v Speaker 1>because what I saw, without no mistake, without doubt, was

904
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:39.199
<v Speaker 1>a set of very wide, broad shoulders and a big

905
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:43.880
<v Speaker 1>round head sitting on top. And I'm like, you gotta

906
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:46.519
<v Speaker 1>be kidding me, because I knew this was not no bears.

907
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Bears don't have shoulders. Bears from their heads sloped straight down,

908
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:54.840
<v Speaker 1>this went out. These were very wide and broad, and

909
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:57.159
<v Speaker 1>here it is eight feet tall. What the heck else

910
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:01.000
<v Speaker 1>is this going to be? And this is where, you know,

911
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:04.039
<v Speaker 1>kind of relating to what Tracy said, I don't know

912
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:06.719
<v Speaker 1>what gave him the thought that these are squatches. I

913
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:08.679
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you saw something different than I did,

914
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:11.239
<v Speaker 1>but from after seeing that shape, I was convinced that

915
00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:15.360
<v Speaker 1>these word squatches and what else would they have been?

916
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean because after observing that, it wasn't long after

917
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:22.519
<v Speaker 1>that where it looked like all three of them turned

918
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:27.039
<v Speaker 1>off and disappeared further into the darkness. And after disappearing,

919
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:31.400
<v Speaker 1>we decided, okay, guys, let's head back to camp. But

920
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:34.039
<v Speaker 1>we're walking along and you can hear the treat, you know,

921
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:37.360
<v Speaker 1>you can hear in the woods, like like limbsnapping and

922
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:40.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever they're stepping on. Kimmy, Kimmy was the

923
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:43.199
<v Speaker 1>only one that ever expressed anything that's any type of

924
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:47.760
<v Speaker 1>fear or nervousness. However, it was exciting for everybody. I

925
00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:50.599
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, maybe could I felt scared? Would

926
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:53.559
<v Speaker 1>I could I have felt fear? I think if I

927
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:55.840
<v Speaker 1>observe all that by myself, it could have been a

928
00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:58.599
<v Speaker 1>different situation. But I think because having other people with

929
00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:02.480
<v Speaker 1>me was a whole different scenario. But Jimmy was the

930
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:04.679
<v Speaker 1>one that was like that after we started walking away,

931
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.880
<v Speaker 1>She's like, she started freaking out, like guys are following us.

932
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I say, they're just walking through the woods. Doesn't mean

933
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:14.840
<v Speaker 1>they're following us. I mean. But we made it back

934
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:19.440
<v Speaker 1>to camp, and we were back at camp, we were talking.

935
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:21.760
<v Speaker 1>We still stayed talking about this, and we were still

936
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:24.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to talk and trying to debunk it, you know.

937
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:29.599
<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't again after we got back to camp

938
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:36.119
<v Speaker 1>and we were finally settling down. Me and Tracy. Yeah,

939
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:39.000
<v Speaker 1>me and Tracy were the only ones. And this is

940
00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:40.840
<v Speaker 1>what we kicked. We kicked ourselves, I know, I do.

941
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm kicking myself with the butter about from this till

942
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:48.599
<v Speaker 1>this very day, because me and Tracy were the only

943
00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:53.079
<v Speaker 1>ones that had night vision in our backpacks, and not

944
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:56.000
<v Speaker 1>once during the whole situation. Did we ever think about

945
00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:59.559
<v Speaker 1>pulling our night vision devices out to get a better

946
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:05.360
<v Speaker 1>observation and so yeah, yeah we had them, but we

947
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:08.159
<v Speaker 1>never thought about pulling them out. So yeah, we were

948
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:10.360
<v Speaker 1>pretty much kicking ourselves in the butt over all this,

949
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:12.679
<v Speaker 1>and like we could have learned a little bit more,

950
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:14.400
<v Speaker 1>we could have seen a little bit more, got some

951
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:19.119
<v Speaker 1>better details. But we did go back the next day

952
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and we went to the very same spot and we

953
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:28.239
<v Speaker 1>actually did a height comparison and come to find out

954
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:32.800
<v Speaker 1>from what we estimated, Yeah, our height comparison with our

955
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:36.400
<v Speaker 1>estimates were pretty much on point. You know, me and

956
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Chlas Stanley were the tallest ones there. He was probably

957
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:42.239
<v Speaker 1>about six He's probably about six two six three. I'm

958
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:44.800
<v Speaker 1>only about six foot. But you know, going into the

959
00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:46.960
<v Speaker 1>same spot where we've seen the tallest one, you know,

960
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:50.480
<v Speaker 1>we raised our hands above our head from whoever was

961
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:54.000
<v Speaker 1>standing all over on the edge of the roadway at

962
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:56.679
<v Speaker 1>the distance that we were seeing on that, uh, everything

963
00:54:56.800 --> 00:54:59.119
<v Speaker 1>was pretty much on point, the distance, from the views,

964
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:03.159
<v Speaker 1>the height, and yeah, we were pretty good. I think

965
00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:06.280
<v Speaker 1>we were pretty good on estimating everything. Everything was pretty

966
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:10.679
<v Speaker 1>close to be an accurate there. And but yeah, again

967
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:15.239
<v Speaker 1>that's what we all witnessed together. I wasn't alone, so

968
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:19.039
<v Speaker 1>there was five others that seen all this. And one

969
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.280
<v Speaker 1>other little fun fact about this I thought was exciting

970
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:25.960
<v Speaker 1>when I learned about this was Cliff Stanley that was

971
00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:29.440
<v Speaker 1>with us, had his camp order out. He was actually

972
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:32.920
<v Speaker 1>filming the whole situation the whole time. And when I

973
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:36.639
<v Speaker 1>learned about this, I was excited. But after observing what

974
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>he pulled up and put together on film, was like

975
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:42.199
<v Speaker 1>it was a major drag. I mean, it was a

976
00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:46.800
<v Speaker 1>major letdown because all you see is pretty much us

977
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:51.079
<v Speaker 1>in the film reacting and being excited about this. And

978
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:56.239
<v Speaker 1>now some people claim, I don't know. I just don't

979
00:55:56.239 --> 00:55:59.079
<v Speaker 1>see it. Some people claim they seen the eyes ghine,

980
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:01.960
<v Speaker 1>they seen what we were. It's just in the video.

981
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I just don't see it. I mean the video as

982
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:08.159
<v Speaker 1>far as I know, it's still on YouTube on the

983
00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Cliff Stanley's YouTube channel. I hadn't looked at it in forever.

984
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:16.119
<v Speaker 1>But some people claim that you could see the eyeshine

985
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:19.639
<v Speaker 1>and what we were seeing in that film. But I

986
00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:23.159
<v Speaker 1>don't know. But that was twenty fourteen May third or

987
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:27.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen. One thing I want to jump ahead and

988
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:32.800
<v Speaker 1>continue on with in that same section of woods just

989
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:36.239
<v Speaker 1>a year later, just around the corner as well. Because

990
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:38.559
<v Speaker 1>where this took place was We're still on our way

991
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:41.800
<v Speaker 1>out from the lake. We didn't have much further to

992
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:46.360
<v Speaker 1>go to the main forest road and head back to camp.

993
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:51.599
<v Speaker 1>But again just a year later in twenty fifteen, during

994
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:56.639
<v Speaker 1>the hunting season. It was November of twenty fifteen, right

995
00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:59.920
<v Speaker 1>around the corner. I was camping out during the hunting season.

996
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I do that a lot during that season. Yes, it

997
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:05.920
<v Speaker 1>gets cold around November, but it was actually comfortable whether

998
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:09.199
<v Speaker 1>I was by myself and there was nobody else around.

999
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Usually there's a lot of people that camp out there

1000
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:14.840
<v Speaker 1>during not the season. Well, in that particular era, it

1001
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:18.159
<v Speaker 1>was just me and I was near at the camp.

1002
00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:22.880
<v Speaker 1>It was dead quiet, and then after it got dark,

1003
00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:26.599
<v Speaker 1>I had a fire going. I had like twelve days

1004
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:30.960
<v Speaker 1>shotgun leaning up against my blazer. Well, I have to

1005
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:36.840
<v Speaker 1>sit there again. It was very quiet, and I was like, man,

1006
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:40.519
<v Speaker 1>it's boring, it's quiet. I'm not tired. I decided to

1007
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:44.639
<v Speaker 1>grab my spotlight and walk, you know, grab it without

1008
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:46.559
<v Speaker 1>turning on. I walk out to the middle of the

1009
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:49.440
<v Speaker 1>fourth road in total dark, you know, Like I tell everybody,

1010
00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:53.159
<v Speaker 1>I do this quite often, even when I've camped with others.

1011
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll bring them out into the middle of woods without

1012
00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:57.840
<v Speaker 1>no light, just kind of sit there for maybe a minute,

1013
00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:02.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of chill, listen, look around. And of course, as

1014
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I got out to the road, I'm standing there in

1015
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:08.519
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the road and I'm you know, standing

1016
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:11.239
<v Speaker 1>there in total darkness just listening. Keep in mind, is

1017
00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:14.639
<v Speaker 1>still dead quiet. I'm not hearing not one thing. You

1018
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:16.599
<v Speaker 1>can probably hear a mouse part out here, that's how

1019
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:23.719
<v Speaker 1>quiet it was. But so I decided, okay, my spotlight.

1020
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:27.039
<v Speaker 1>I decided to start shining at the tree line across

1021
00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:30.400
<v Speaker 1>from me, well over to my left. As soon as

1022
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I pulled the trigger on the spotlight, immediately I spook

1023
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:35.400
<v Speaker 1>up a deer, because you know, all of a sudden

1024
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:37.079
<v Speaker 1>you can hear the sound of a deer jump out

1025
00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:39.639
<v Speaker 1>of the bushes and run off, like, oh cool, I

1026
00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:42.360
<v Speaker 1>spooked the deer, you know. So I was like, okay,

1027
00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I continued paying my spotlight from my left over to

1028
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:51.880
<v Speaker 1>my right, and as I approached the one between the

1029
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:54.599
<v Speaker 1>one and two o'clock position. As soon as I got

1030
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:57.840
<v Speaker 1>to that spot, all of a sudden, whatever was inside

1031
00:58:57.880 --> 00:59:01.159
<v Speaker 1>that tree line, I mind the tree line was probably

1032
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:04.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty feet from where I was standing. But when I

1033
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:08.159
<v Speaker 1>got to that spine, what everyone's inside that tree line,

1034
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I promise you was extremely heavy and on two feet,

1035
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:19.639
<v Speaker 1>because what I heard next was bipedal steps walking away,

1036
00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:24.079
<v Speaker 1>and I described them sometimes with a sound of a

1037
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:27.519
<v Speaker 1>crunch and a pump at the same time you can hear.

1038
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:32.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that my imitation is not the best,

1039
00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:34.760
<v Speaker 1>but that's exactly the best way I know how to

1040
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:37.599
<v Speaker 1>describe it. It's a crunch and a pump as every

1041
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:40.880
<v Speaker 1>step it took, and you can hear it. And it

1042
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:45.440
<v Speaker 1>was going away from me. But when I heard this again,

1043
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:48.199
<v Speaker 1>I minded there was nobody else around. I was standing

1044
00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:51.920
<v Speaker 1>by myself. I'm very vulnerable. When I heard this, my

1045
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:55.599
<v Speaker 1>heart like raised up in my broke and I felt

1046
00:59:55.639 --> 01:00:00.000
<v Speaker 1>again very vulnerable. When I heard this, I started walking backwards,

1047
01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:03.920
<v Speaker 1>and with a spotlight on the tree line, and with

1048
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:06.360
<v Speaker 1>my office hand reaching down to my keys that were

1049
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:09.039
<v Speaker 1>on my belt loop in that panic button, make sure

1050
01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:13.079
<v Speaker 1>my car was unlocked. And as I started to edge around,

1051
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:15.199
<v Speaker 1>make sure I wasn't walking, you know, make sure I

1052
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:17.280
<v Speaker 1>knew I was walking. I kept looking back, you know,

1053
01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, I got back into my campsite,

1054
01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:23.400
<v Speaker 1>and I probably threw another log or two in the fire.

1055
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:27.119
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, I actually probably instantly for

1056
01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:30.360
<v Speaker 1>some reason, I instantly calmed right back down, like Okay,

1057
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:33.960
<v Speaker 1>that fear went away, and I sat down after throwing

1058
01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:35.960
<v Speaker 1>a couple more logs of fire, making the fire a

1059
01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:39.719
<v Speaker 1>little bit bigger. I'm sitting there, you know, kind of

1060
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:44.440
<v Speaker 1>doing my final relaxation, catch my breath. I was like,

1061
01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:49.559
<v Speaker 1>listen or running from my head what I just heard,

1062
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you know. I was like bears, like I said, I

1063
01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:56.840
<v Speaker 1>like I was talking to you guys earlier about bears.

1064
01:00:56.880 --> 01:00:59.559
<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of close encounters with bears, some close,

1065
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:03.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot more more distant than anything. But I could

1066
01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:07.119
<v Speaker 1>tell you I don't care if you have a five

1067
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:09.800
<v Speaker 1>to seven hundred pound black bear. They're not going to

1068
01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:14.360
<v Speaker 1>crunch a thump in the on the ground. Uh, They're

1069
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:16.840
<v Speaker 1>not going to be that heavy. Whatever this was had

1070
01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:20.559
<v Speaker 1>some extreme mass and weight as a step. And again

1071
01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:23.880
<v Speaker 1>this was Bipuedle, without doubt. I promised you it was

1072
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:27.960
<v Speaker 1>by Budle. But I'm listening and I'm running through running

1073
01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:31.159
<v Speaker 1>through my head. I was like, if this meant any

1074
01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:33.599
<v Speaker 1>harm to me. It had every opportunity to run out

1075
01:01:33.599 --> 01:01:35.800
<v Speaker 1>of that tree line to sack me like a football player,

1076
01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:38.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I crowd probably could have been a garner,

1077
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:41.719
<v Speaker 1>But I got to realize that it was going away

1078
01:01:41.719 --> 01:01:46.639
<v Speaker 1>from me. It was going away. Now. With this being said,

1079
01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:49.800
<v Speaker 1>one thing I like to point out about this was

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01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:55.440
<v Speaker 1>look at twenty fourteen and look at twenty fifteen. Each

1081
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:59.480
<v Speaker 1>situation had a deer involved just prior to having that experience.

1082
01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:04.119
<v Speaker 1>So my question that I asked myself, did I interrupt something?

1083
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Did I interrupt or hunt? It's believed that bigfoot does

1084
01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:11.840
<v Speaker 1>like to eat or feed on deer. Well, there was

1085
01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:15.079
<v Speaker 1>a deer just before we had the encounter. Maybe that

1086
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:17.400
<v Speaker 1>small one was spying on that deer that was nearby,

1087
01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:21.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe that small one was getting ready to

1088
01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:23.559
<v Speaker 1>make the charge. I don't know. I had to like, oh,

1089
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:25.360
<v Speaker 1>these are just brandom plots that run through my head.

1090
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:29.840
<v Speaker 1>But again it's been said that they take deear and

1091
01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:34.119
<v Speaker 1>they eat deer. So again, both situations had a deer

1092
01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:38.639
<v Speaker 1>prior to happening. What was happening. So that's one thing

1093
01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:40.679
<v Speaker 1>I like to question myself and think about from time

1094
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:44.559
<v Speaker 1>to time. You know, were we or did I interrupt

1095
01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:49.199
<v Speaker 1>a hunt, you know. So twenty fourteen fifteen, same section.

1096
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:53.159
<v Speaker 1>It woods just around the corner. So, but that was

1097
01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:57.440
<v Speaker 1>one of the things, you know, I talked about and

1098
01:02:57.480 --> 01:03:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I bring up from time to time, you know. So

1099
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:05.440
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, you could ask Tracy Arnold. He'll he'll throw

1100
01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:07.559
<v Speaker 1>you in on that. He remembers a lot of that too.

1101
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:11.840
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but yeah, that's my story and I'm sticking

1102
01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:14.320
<v Speaker 1>to it.

1103
01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:14.760
<v Speaker 4>Actually.

1104
01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Now there's actually a documentary. They actually some good

1105
01:03:20.840 --> 01:03:24.079
<v Speaker 1>friends of mine that have their own production team and

1106
01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:28.800
<v Speaker 1>they actually have a TV series on Paraflets, which is

1107
01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:36.000
<v Speaker 1>actually the the paranormal network of of It's like Netflix,

1108
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:38.079
<v Speaker 1>but it's more of a paranormal there's a lot of

1109
01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:41.079
<v Speaker 1>big shows on it as well, but Paraflets, they actually

1110
01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:44.320
<v Speaker 1>have a TV series on there, and uh, they actually,

1111
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:48.280
<v Speaker 1>my friends said, they have their own production team. They

1112
01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:51.360
<v Speaker 1>actually put together a film for their first their new

1113
01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:57.320
<v Speaker 1>TV series called Hometown Haunts, but it's titled The Beast

1114
01:03:57.320 --> 01:03:59.679
<v Speaker 1>of Elkhorn Lake, which I was their first one day

1115
01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:02.960
<v Speaker 1>film an interview Twitter and if you watch that again,

1116
01:04:03.159 --> 01:04:05.719
<v Speaker 1>you can find it on YouTube. It's full the full episode,

1117
01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the full show on there. It's called the Beast of

1118
01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:10.800
<v Speaker 1>elfho On Lake. And of course that was based off

1119
01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:15.559
<v Speaker 1>of my twenty fourteen car. So but again, there's other

1120
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:18.159
<v Speaker 1>things that happened along the way or before that, you know,

1121
01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:21.320
<v Speaker 1>in between. I've had rocks thrown at me and I've

1122
01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:25.000
<v Speaker 1>heard all kinds of interesting things here and there. So again,

1123
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:27.440
<v Speaker 1>that's yeah, that was the twenty fourteen.

1124
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:32.079
<v Speaker 2>Char That's cool. I think one of the questions I had,

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01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:35.039
<v Speaker 2>We know, Bobby and I know, since we are from Illinois,

1126
01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:39.039
<v Speaker 2>the deer, the whitetail deer in Illinois are much larger

1127
01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:39.960
<v Speaker 2>than they are down here.

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01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely so.

1129
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:45.559
<v Speaker 2>And are is it the are the black bears? Are

1130
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:47.519
<v Speaker 2>they bigger up there than they are down here? I mean,

1131
01:04:47.639 --> 01:04:50.000
<v Speaker 2>is it uncommon or unheard of to have an eight

1132
01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:53.320
<v Speaker 2>foot tall standing black bear? That sounds pretty odd. That

1133
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:54.559
<v Speaker 2>sounds more grizzly.

1134
01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Like right right. Well, here's the thing when it comes

1135
01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:02.280
<v Speaker 1>to black bears, if you do your like online research,

1136
01:05:02.519 --> 01:05:06.480
<v Speaker 1>your average black bear, even a five hundred pound black bear,

1137
01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:09.880
<v Speaker 1>is going to stand about six week doll Yeah.

1138
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:10.199
<v Speaker 2>And the general.

1139
01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:12.400
<v Speaker 1>What's that?

1140
01:05:13.159 --> 01:05:15.480
<v Speaker 2>And they're generally not traveling as a group.

1141
01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:19.360
<v Speaker 1>No, No, it's very rare. Most of the time. If

1142
01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:21.480
<v Speaker 1>you have a black bear a mother, If you have

1143
01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:24.280
<v Speaker 1>a female that has cubs, that's a different story. The

1144
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:27.320
<v Speaker 1>cobs are only near the mama, but no males and

1145
01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:32.159
<v Speaker 1>females travel separately. I'm sure there's some occasions where you

1146
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:35.800
<v Speaker 1>will see them together. It depends. I think that's a

1147
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:40.760
<v Speaker 1>very rare occasion, however, but there are some black like

1148
01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:42.519
<v Speaker 1>I will tell you for a fact that we have

1149
01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:45.400
<v Speaker 1>some monster black bears up here. I have seen very

1150
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:49.599
<v Speaker 1>large fifteen inch black bear tracks here in the National Forest.

1151
01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:52.960
<v Speaker 1>So there is some monster black bears up here. But

1152
01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:54.920
<v Speaker 1>as far as when you go look at the state

1153
01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:59.960
<v Speaker 1>hunting records, I believe Pennsylvania has over an eight hundred

1154
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:04.360
<v Speaker 1>pound black bear. Virginia has over seven hundred pound black bear.

1155
01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:08.360
<v Speaker 1>That even North Carolina's got washedon black bear. They got

1156
01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:11.719
<v Speaker 1>seven hundreds of pound black bears there. I'm not going

1157
01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:15.719
<v Speaker 1>to say that Florida doesn't have them. Uh, they do

1158
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:18.800
<v Speaker 1>have smaller black bearers there. I'm not sure what region,

1159
01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:23.239
<v Speaker 1>but after doing some past studies, Florida does have black bears,

1160
01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:25.199
<v Speaker 1>but they're more I guess they're more smaller.

1161
01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:29.679
<v Speaker 2>They're not as big, but I've seen a couple of

1162
01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I've seen a couple of pretty big ones in the

1163
01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:34.119
<v Speaker 2>O'calla National Forest when we were showing up at the

1164
01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:34.880
<v Speaker 2>research area.

1165
01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:37.800
<v Speaker 5>And I've got trail can pictures of a big one

1166
01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:39.159
<v Speaker 5>going through my crash.

1167
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:44.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh nice, nice and down here in Port Saint Lucie.

1168
01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:47.360
<v Speaker 2>I in our subdivision when I live in a cookie

1169
01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:50.599
<v Speaker 2>cutter subdivision, there's six hundred and forty seven houses, I

1170
01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:52.679
<v Speaker 2>believe in our subdivision, and our houses are only like

1171
01:06:52.760 --> 01:06:57.239
<v Speaker 2>eight feet apart, or feet apart, twelve feet apart or whatnot.

1172
01:06:57.440 --> 01:06:59.599
<v Speaker 2>But in our subdivision, across the street from the clubhouse,

1173
01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:02.480
<v Speaker 2>one day, I was riding bike through the neighborhood at night,

1174
01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:05.519
<v Speaker 2>and I heard a bear. You know, I heard that room, okay,

1175
01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:08.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, And and I went back in the next day.

1176
01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:10.599
<v Speaker 2>I told all that night, I told my wife and

1177
01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:12.639
<v Speaker 2>I know what I heard. And then I told the

1178
01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:15.079
<v Speaker 2>neighbor and we were we were new, we were new

1179
01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:18.639
<v Speaker 2>to this neighborhood at the time. And they're like, no,

1180
01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:20.960
<v Speaker 2>you didn't hear no bear. You may have heard an alligator,

1181
01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:24.639
<v Speaker 2>by the way. I'm like, no, I heard a bear.

1182
01:07:26.159 --> 01:07:30.400
<v Speaker 2>And two days later, on the edge of our subdivision,

1183
01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:33.880
<v Speaker 2>by the roundabout, black bear was sighted across in Gatland,

1184
01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:37.320
<v Speaker 2>which goes to the corner of our roundabout, and I

1185
01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:40.920
<v Speaker 2>ended up, you know, like put my finger in his eye, like, man,

1186
01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:43.719
<v Speaker 2>I know what I heard. I know what I heard.

1187
01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:47.280
<v Speaker 2>But they're doing so much, there's doing so much development

1188
01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:51.599
<v Speaker 2>here and just tearing everything thing down so fast that

1189
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:54.960
<v Speaker 2>the wildlife here has nowhere to go. They've theory to

1190
01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:57.519
<v Speaker 2>become a problem in our subdivisions everywhere.

1191
01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:01.079
<v Speaker 1>See, that's funny you bring that up because the guests

1192
01:08:01.119 --> 01:08:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I had on my podcast just the other night yesterday,

1193
01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was, well, no, yeah, a couple of

1194
01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:13.480
<v Speaker 1>nights ago. He told me his story from back when

1195
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:17.920
<v Speaker 1>he was twelve years old, twelve, thirteen years old. I

1196
01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:22.000
<v Speaker 1>don't remember much of the details, but we were talking.

1197
01:08:22.039 --> 01:08:24.279
<v Speaker 1>That's part of what we were talking about in discussion.

1198
01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:28.520
<v Speaker 1>And back like see back when he was twelve, that

1199
01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:30.640
<v Speaker 1>was I guess for him. That was back in the seventies,

1200
01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:36.079
<v Speaker 1>you know. And yeah, he's like he's like six. He's

1201
01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:40.399
<v Speaker 1>around sixty years old now, I believe so. But yeah,

1202
01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:43.079
<v Speaker 1>back he said he made that's the one thing he

1203
01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:46.079
<v Speaker 1>made a point of that back when he was twelve

1204
01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:50.039
<v Speaker 1>years old down in Florida. This particular neighborhood where all

1205
01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:54.880
<v Speaker 1>this stuff was going on, like the big Foot stories

1206
01:08:54.920 --> 01:08:58.239
<v Speaker 1>of him, what he's seen, and what was being heard

1207
01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:02.720
<v Speaker 1>around the town. And you know, he said it wasn't

1208
01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:05.640
<v Speaker 1>it was a small town. He said, this is long before.

1209
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:07.399
<v Speaker 1>He said, if you go to that place now, it's

1210
01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:11.479
<v Speaker 1>all grown up and one the whole thing. One of

1211
01:09:11.479 --> 01:09:13.079
<v Speaker 1>the things that ran through my mind the whole time

1212
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:15.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm listening to everything he's talking about. I was like,

1213
01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, you push you know, wonder why

1214
01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:23.039
<v Speaker 1>this big Foot, you know, Pete off, because you're pushing

1215
01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:26.439
<v Speaker 1>them out of his territory. You know, you're you know,

1216
01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:30.159
<v Speaker 1>we weren't having and we're closing on them. You know.

1217
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:34.840
<v Speaker 1>It's like my job, well, my previous job, I was

1218
01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:39.159
<v Speaker 1>working for Amazon as the delivery driver. And some of

1219
01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:42.039
<v Speaker 1>the neighborhoods I go into, I'm going into these well

1220
01:09:42.079 --> 01:09:46.680
<v Speaker 1>populated subdivisions right just right outside of the city. And

1221
01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm walking down a set of stairs

1222
01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:51.279
<v Speaker 1>after dropping off a package and I got a deer

1223
01:09:51.319 --> 01:09:54.960
<v Speaker 1>about to run me over and I see herds the

1224
01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:58.920
<v Speaker 1>deer running through these subdivisions, like well populated subdivision. I said,

1225
01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:00.760
<v Speaker 1>these do you have nowhere else to go because these

1226
01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:02.960
<v Speaker 1>these houses are built where they used to be grown.

1227
01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:08.199
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. It's people don't realize that.

1228
01:10:07.119 --> 01:10:08.800
<v Speaker 2>They got to have somewhere to go, and then people

1229
01:10:08.800 --> 01:10:11.520
<v Speaker 2>complain like it's their fault that their homes are destroyed.

1230
01:10:12.279 --> 01:10:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

1231
01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:16.199
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, what do you think we're dealing

1232
01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:19.880
<v Speaker 2>with with with with with these big good saspects? What's

1233
01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:21.880
<v Speaker 2>what's your opinion on what you think they are? It's

1234
01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:23.399
<v Speaker 2>kind of a question for you and the chat, you know,

1235
01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what do you what do you guys think

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01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:29.079
<v Speaker 2>that that we're dealing with. There's there's all kinds of theories,

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<v Speaker 2>but oh yeah, absolutely what people think.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I'm glad you asked that because I

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01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I like to ask a lot of my guests the

1240
01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:40.920
<v Speaker 1>same questions and I'm not going to dismiss any of them,

1241
01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:45.680
<v Speaker 1>and I respect all responses. And but you know, again,

1242
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I have my own and just when I speak my

1243
01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:51.520
<v Speaker 1>when I speak my own thoughts and opinions on it,

1244
01:10:52.960 --> 01:10:55.279
<v Speaker 1>by no means am I trying to make myself out

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01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:58.640
<v Speaker 1>to be factual on this. It's basically, my answers come

1246
01:10:58.640 --> 01:11:00.920
<v Speaker 1>from my conclusions off of what I study and what

1247
01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I observe, and you know, and the more and more

1248
01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I dig and research. You know, I don't know how

1249
01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:08.800
<v Speaker 1>people are, how they research, or where they're picking their

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01:11:08.840 --> 01:11:11.239
<v Speaker 1>information up. I'm only going based off of what I

1251
01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:13.560
<v Speaker 1>research and what I'm digging too, and I'm listening to

1252
01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:17.319
<v Speaker 1>other stories and other eyewitness descriptions, and the more and

1253
01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:20.159
<v Speaker 1>more I hear about it, it just keeps building more

1254
01:11:20.159 --> 01:11:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and more on top of what I believe. But again,

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01:11:24.239 --> 01:11:26.960
<v Speaker 1>my belief, my conclusion is I believe they are some

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01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:30.640
<v Speaker 1>type of primate. But with that being said, I'm very

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01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:32.479
<v Speaker 1>careful on this because I want people to understand. I'm

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01:11:32.520 --> 01:11:35.239
<v Speaker 1>not saying they're a gorilla. I'm not saying they're a chimpanzee.

1259
01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:39.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying there a rangutang. But I believe they

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01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:44.520
<v Speaker 1>are in some form or type of primate, also undiscovered, unclassified,

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01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:48.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the primate world. Because when I hear

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01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:52.399
<v Speaker 1>people say, oh, they're human, they're not primated, they're human. Well,

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01:11:53.079 --> 01:11:55.680
<v Speaker 1>let's look at the scientific point of view. You know,

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01:11:56.199 --> 01:11:58.640
<v Speaker 1>you guys want to use science and say they're this

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01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:02.439
<v Speaker 1>and they're not that. Well, scientifically speaking, me and you

1266
01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:06.840
<v Speaker 1>we're human primates, you know, you know, so you know,

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01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:11.439
<v Speaker 1>there's there's different classification of primates. There's a long large

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01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:15.520
<v Speaker 1>range of primates in this world. Again, as human beings

1269
01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:19.720
<v Speaker 1>were classified as primates. And that's regardless if you believe

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01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:22.439
<v Speaker 1>in evolution or not. I don't think that has anything

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01:12:22.479 --> 01:12:25.279
<v Speaker 1>to do with the evolution because I have a I

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01:12:25.319 --> 01:12:27.239
<v Speaker 1>try to stay away from an evolution. But you know,

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01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:31.560
<v Speaker 1>again I'm using science scientifically speaking or signed terms, you know,

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01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:35.399
<v Speaker 1>for how you want to look at them. And I'm

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01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:38.600
<v Speaker 1>not going to get into there's a lot of all

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01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:40.520
<v Speaker 1>the details. I won't really get into because I don't

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01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:42.600
<v Speaker 1>have my notes for me. There's certain things I bring

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01:12:42.720 --> 01:12:46.119
<v Speaker 1>up and present at my presentations when I speak at events.

1279
01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:50.520
<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, with that being said, without getting too

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01:12:50.600 --> 01:12:53.680
<v Speaker 1>far into a deep explanation on it, I will say

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it is some type of primate, But again

1282
01:12:56.399 --> 01:13:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's equivalent to our No species are

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01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:02.319
<v Speaker 1>promise that we know that exists.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think that, I think, yeah.

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01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I.

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<v Speaker 5>Lean more to be in early human ancestors, some type

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01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:24.079
<v Speaker 5>of neander or something. You know, nobody's ever seen the

1288
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:26.279
<v Speaker 5>Neanderthal in real life, only what they.

1289
01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:28.159
<v Speaker 3>Make them look like in a museum so.

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01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:38.119
<v Speaker 5>I I lean more towards early human descendent basically, But

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01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:41.960
<v Speaker 5>again that's just my theories. I have nothing to back

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01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:43.199
<v Speaker 5>it up with my imagination.

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01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Now, now I like his response because I'll tell you why.

1294
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Because of course we know for a fact the air

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01:13:52.279 --> 01:13:59.079
<v Speaker 1>fases exist. Nothing is almost I could say everybody. I'll

1296
01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:03.520
<v Speaker 1>say almost everybody, and somewhere down the lines you're not

1297
01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:05.840
<v Speaker 1>going to probably see it in the database. But I

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01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:09.399
<v Speaker 1>believe a majority of people in this world have in

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01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:13.479
<v Speaker 1>the NFL DNA in them. Now, a lot of people

1300
01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:16.239
<v Speaker 1>don't realize this, like, okay, the neand of AAL DNA

1301
01:14:16.399 --> 01:14:19.520
<v Speaker 1>did not come into existence, or was it discovered or

1302
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:23.119
<v Speaker 1>was able to be recognized, I should say, so, it

1303
01:14:23.159 --> 01:14:26.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't till the nineties. It wasn't till the early to

1304
01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:28.680
<v Speaker 1>mid nineties to the end of all DNA was actually

1305
01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:33.439
<v Speaker 1>recognized and studied and put out there. But so, you know,

1306
01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:37.359
<v Speaker 1>how many people in this world have the DNA running

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01:14:37.359 --> 01:14:39.399
<v Speaker 1>through them somewhere along the line, because the end of

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01:14:39.439 --> 01:14:42.880
<v Speaker 1>all were a type of people. You know, people don't

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01:14:42.880 --> 01:14:43.279
<v Speaker 1>realize that.

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01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:47.680
<v Speaker 3>So they were a type of people. But if you look.

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01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:52.439
<v Speaker 5>At their bone structure, their bone structure looks more very

1312
01:14:52.520 --> 01:14:55.720
<v Speaker 5>similar to the structure of a great eighth than it

1313
01:14:55.760 --> 01:14:57.279
<v Speaker 5>does a human bone.

1314
01:14:57.039 --> 01:14:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Structure, right, which is usually larger and denser.

1315
01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot thicker, denser bones. But yeah, when you

1316
01:15:03.960 --> 01:15:06.520
<v Speaker 3>go to the SMITHSONI and they make them look exactly

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01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:07.640
<v Speaker 3>like a human.

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01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:12.800
<v Speaker 5>Right, I just think a lot of the early humans

1319
01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:15.600
<v Speaker 5>may be didn't.

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01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:21.520
<v Speaker 3>Disappear. They maybe they were hiding in the woods, right.

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01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:24.399
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that that that that kind of like literally

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01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:28.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, joins with my my next question about you know,

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01:15:29.439 --> 01:15:31.439
<v Speaker 2>where are these things going when they're not in transit,

1324
01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:33.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, when they are just kind of hunkered down

1325
01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:36.920
<v Speaker 2>and not traveling or whatnot. And I look on Google

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01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:39.199
<v Speaker 2>Earth a lot. In our in our research areas, and

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01:15:39.239 --> 01:15:46.479
<v Speaker 2>we have we have big swaths of cypress trees. You

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01:15:46.520 --> 01:15:48.239
<v Speaker 2>can see the different colors and you can see the

1329
01:15:48.239 --> 01:15:50.640
<v Speaker 2>difference in the cypress. But in these groups of cypresses,

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01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:55.520
<v Speaker 2>there are different trees in the middle, which suggests in

1331
01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:58.119
<v Speaker 2>the middle of this little cypress swamp there's a drier

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01:15:58.199 --> 01:16:01.720
<v Speaker 2>area with different trees growing out of it that a

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01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:04.439
<v Speaker 2>normal human being would not make that trek because of

1334
01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:07.279
<v Speaker 2>the gats and the snakes and you just don't know

1335
01:16:07.720 --> 01:16:11.600
<v Speaker 2>it is. I was literally tall at telling my son

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01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Ryker when me and him went out, and I'm like,

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01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:16.359
<v Speaker 2>my theory is going back there in the day because

1338
01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:19.479
<v Speaker 2>look at that water. You can't see two inches in it.

1339
01:16:19.479 --> 01:16:23.560
<v Speaker 2>It's black, and we got gators all over this this

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01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:26.880
<v Speaker 2>state down here in the south, and when you look

1341
01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:30.560
<v Speaker 2>back on Google Earth, it's it's it's different trees. It's

1342
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:33.600
<v Speaker 2>this pine and oak trees in the center of these cypress,

1343
01:16:33.600 --> 01:16:37.239
<v Speaker 2>which means there's a higher ground, it's a drier ground.

1344
01:16:37.600 --> 01:16:40.039
<v Speaker 2>And I got out with my son and we started

1345
01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:44.399
<v Speaker 2>looking and literally within thirty seconds we've seen about three

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01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:47.279
<v Speaker 2>nine inch footprints, one in halfway in the water and

1347
01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:50.399
<v Speaker 2>half out, another one about two and a half to

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01:16:50.439 --> 01:16:52.119
<v Speaker 2>three feet coming up the bank, and another one at

1349
01:16:52.159 --> 01:16:54.079
<v Speaker 2>the edge of the road coming well.

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01:16:55.760 --> 01:16:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Nine inches.

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01:16:57.039 --> 01:17:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they count like they kind of looked like female.

1352
01:17:02.239 --> 01:17:05.800
<v Speaker 2>They were slender than the normal wide you know, flintstone

1353
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:09.239
<v Speaker 2>club foot looking, you know, big boxy they were. They

1354
01:17:09.279 --> 01:17:13.159
<v Speaker 2>were slender looking. I mean, you know, it could very

1355
01:17:13.159 --> 01:17:16.000
<v Speaker 2>well have been a youngster. I know, where we go,

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01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:20.640
<v Speaker 2>nobody in their right mind is walking barefoot, right.

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01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, There's no one.

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01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:27.399
<v Speaker 5>There's there's some rednecks and hipbilities in Florida, but most of.

1359
01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Them, Yeah, you would think that, Yeah, if they lived

1360
01:17:31.399 --> 01:17:37.800
<v Speaker 1>down there, they would know better. Yeah, did anybody in

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01:17:37.840 --> 01:17:42.199
<v Speaker 1>the southern state like Florida, Louisiana, Georgia, even certain parts

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01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:44.399
<v Speaker 1>of South Carolina Because I was in South Carolina. I

1363
01:17:44.399 --> 01:17:48.479
<v Speaker 1>go to South Carolina every October. And the friends of

1364
01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:50.520
<v Speaker 1>mine that I usually meet up with down there, I

1365
01:17:50.520 --> 01:17:53.479
<v Speaker 1>mean I've they took me a tour and in their

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01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:57.039
<v Speaker 1>back property, showing me the wild boars and the hares

1367
01:17:57.119 --> 01:18:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and everything. And there's also a section of woodsal bands

1368
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:03.039
<v Speaker 1>boo down there by the swamp, and they haven't seen

1369
01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:04.760
<v Speaker 1>one in there for a long time, but there's they

1370
01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:08.399
<v Speaker 1>used to be gators down there in South Carolina. They

1371
01:18:08.399 --> 01:18:10.640
<v Speaker 1>showed me where the gators used to be sparred to

1372
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:13.600
<v Speaker 1>scene it. But their main thing is the wild the

1373
01:18:13.600 --> 01:18:16.920
<v Speaker 1>wild boards, you know, because they showed me. You know,

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01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:18.239
<v Speaker 1>they used to show me a lot just like you

1375
01:18:18.239 --> 01:18:20.279
<v Speaker 1>could see. There was old barbed wire French and they

1376
01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:22.600
<v Speaker 1>used to show me all the snag hair that came

1377
01:18:22.600 --> 01:18:25.760
<v Speaker 1>from the bar on the boards. Because I got another

1378
01:18:25.800 --> 01:18:27.920
<v Speaker 1>buddy of mine that hunts down there. He's always shooting

1379
01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:31.119
<v Speaker 1>boards down there. You know and uh, but yeah, you

1380
01:18:31.119 --> 01:18:33.199
<v Speaker 1>can see the wild boards, like like on the on

1381
01:18:33.239 --> 01:18:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the bamboo, there's certain like scrapes and marks on there.

1382
01:18:37.680 --> 01:18:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Like I was like my friends was like, this is

1383
01:18:40.319 --> 01:18:42.359
<v Speaker 1>this is from their tuxt this is where they rubbed

1384
01:18:42.359 --> 01:18:45.439
<v Speaker 1>their tuxt on here, you know, like oh cool, you know,

1385
01:18:45.479 --> 01:18:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was kind of educational, you know, like

1386
01:18:48.239 --> 01:18:50.319
<v Speaker 1>because we don't have as far as I know not

1387
01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:54.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like we don't have wild boards or you know

1388
01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:59.039
<v Speaker 1>up here in Virginia. Really, I think if you go now,

1389
01:18:59.079 --> 01:19:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I believe if you go to the Eastern Shore that

1390
01:19:01.039 --> 01:19:03.680
<v Speaker 1>runs down into North Carolina, like North Carolina supposed he

1391
01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:08.399
<v Speaker 1>has has farh hogs and stuff. But I don't know

1392
01:19:08.439 --> 01:19:11.119
<v Speaker 1>how popular they are down there. But I know for

1393
01:19:11.279 --> 01:19:14.000
<v Speaker 1>my research and from what other hunters have told me,

1394
01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:17.079
<v Speaker 1>yeah they're in North Carolina, so maybe they might be

1395
01:19:17.159 --> 01:19:21.279
<v Speaker 1>in parts of Virginia. But then again, I got some

1396
01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:24.800
<v Speaker 1>friends of mine that are involved a bit. But buddy

1397
01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:28.359
<v Speaker 1>mine here, he's a veteran. When he goes up to Ohio,

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01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess on his father's property they have him up

1399
01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:35.319
<v Speaker 1>in Ohio. So I don't know, maybe we do have him.

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01:19:35.479 --> 01:19:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just haven't never seen no evidence

1401
01:19:37.840 --> 01:19:41.079
<v Speaker 1>myself of a wild board here in Virginia. But yeah,

1402
01:19:41.119 --> 01:19:44.800
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, he goes up to Ohio and then you know,

1403
01:19:44.920 --> 01:19:49.720
<v Speaker 1>like I said, North Carolina, South Carolina. Yeah, but it.

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01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:54.439
<v Speaker 5>Would sure be easier to find friends and cracks around

1405
01:19:54.439 --> 01:19:58.960
<v Speaker 5>here if we didn't. Oh yeah, man, they they will

1406
01:19:59.159 --> 01:20:01.479
<v Speaker 5>tear the ground that happen. I mean, you get up

1407
01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:05.039
<v Speaker 5>and the worst and it's just lousy recalled.

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01:20:06.359 --> 01:20:07.279
<v Speaker 3>They'll come right up to you.

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01:20:07.359 --> 01:20:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Wont Jeff, Yeah, and Bobby were in Neil Calnaster four.

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01:20:12.319 --> 01:20:14.079
<v Speaker 2>This is We got video of it as well on

1411
01:20:14.119 --> 01:20:16.800
<v Speaker 2>our on our Facebook page. We were in Bobby, side

1412
01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:18.640
<v Speaker 2>by side. We came up off the trail and got

1413
01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:22.239
<v Speaker 2>on a main dirt road and here come these three

1414
01:20:22.359 --> 01:20:26.000
<v Speaker 2>pigs just walking on up case. We were parked, but

1415
01:20:26.279 --> 01:20:29.600
<v Speaker 2>it's running this. The pig walks over to my side

1416
01:20:29.680 --> 01:20:31.920
<v Speaker 2>and just starts chewing on the on the tread on

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01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:36.720
<v Speaker 2>the tire while we're well, we're He's like and this big.

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01:20:36.840 --> 01:20:39.760
<v Speaker 2>These pigs are strong. How much is your cambot away?

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01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, I think it weighs about pretty heavy pigs

1420
01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:48.039
<v Speaker 3>of quid.

1421
01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:51.760
<v Speaker 2>This pig was backing this cabota by on the tread

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01:20:51.880 --> 01:20:56.039
<v Speaker 2>man I was like, my goodness.

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01:20:55.119 --> 01:20:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Hey, better than better the tire than your lake and

1424
01:20:57.800 --> 01:20:58.239
<v Speaker 1>they will.

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01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:03.680
<v Speaker 3>Scary.

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01:21:03.800 --> 01:21:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, Oh my god, Yeah, I know you're delicious.

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01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:12.159
<v Speaker 4>Close.

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01:21:12.199 --> 01:21:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Would you like to gow course? Would you like to

1429
01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:16.800
<v Speaker 2>get to a bigfoot? I mean, let's sasquatch or bigfoot?

1430
01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's well for me, I would you want

1431
01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:25.520
<v Speaker 2>to be safe, but you want to get as much

1432
01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:32.159
<v Speaker 2>detail as you can, like smell pores, you just the

1433
01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:34.359
<v Speaker 2>dirt and the critter is crawling in the hair. For me,

1434
01:21:34.600 --> 01:21:37.039
<v Speaker 2>is you know, like but you could do that from

1435
01:21:37.079 --> 01:21:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Afar too, you know, with someone with with with a

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01:21:39.399 --> 01:21:42.439
<v Speaker 2>good lens. But yeah, I feel like you know what

1437
01:21:42.479 --> 01:21:45.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean. I've been five feet from one, but I

1438
01:21:45.079 --> 01:21:46.680
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to look at I didn't spend time looking

1439
01:21:46.720 --> 01:21:48.760
<v Speaker 2>at it. I turned around and ran both times. I

1440
01:21:48.920 --> 01:21:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I didn't I I didn't want to see it. It

1441
01:21:52.760 --> 01:21:56.399
<v Speaker 2>was a monster to me. Yeah, and as an I

1442
01:21:56.439 --> 01:21:58.800
<v Speaker 2>want that opportunity again. That's why we do what we do.

1443
01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:04.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, like, what's your what's your ideal distance to

1444
01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:08.359
<v Speaker 2>soak in all that information and process everything you're seeing

1445
01:22:08.399 --> 01:22:11.680
<v Speaker 2>and get questions answered that you wonder.

1446
01:22:13.359 --> 01:22:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll put it to you this way and this

1447
01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:18.079
<v Speaker 1>probably won't make sense. I don't want to be face

1448
01:22:18.119 --> 01:22:23.720
<v Speaker 1>to face. And then again at the same time, I would, hey,

1449
01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:26.319
<v Speaker 1>I would welcome it. If it happens, let it happen.

1450
01:22:26.840 --> 01:22:30.079
<v Speaker 1>But because you know, you hear all these stories, you know,

1451
01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:33.319
<v Speaker 1>you don't want. Nobody wants to be put in harm's way,

1452
01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:37.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, because we don't understand these beings, you know,

1453
01:22:37.359 --> 01:22:40.760
<v Speaker 1>if we encounter them, if we have the like I've

1454
01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:44.439
<v Speaker 1>heard stories right here from Virginia where individuals have been

1455
01:22:44.439 --> 01:22:48.239
<v Speaker 1>face to face, you know, and I believe these are

1456
01:22:48.239 --> 01:22:51.319
<v Speaker 1>the stories I've heard where I believe them because you know,

1457
01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:53.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe everything I hear. But when I hear

1458
01:22:53.319 --> 01:22:55.800
<v Speaker 1>certain stories, I get drawn into these stories. When I

1459
01:22:55.840 --> 01:22:58.640
<v Speaker 1>get drawn into these stories where I'm visualizing what's happening,

1460
01:22:59.399 --> 01:23:02.079
<v Speaker 1>I tend to believe those stories. But not every story

1461
01:23:02.119 --> 01:23:05.319
<v Speaker 1>I hear. I get like that. But there are stories

1462
01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:09.199
<v Speaker 1>that came from Virginia here where the people had close encounters.

1463
01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:12.439
<v Speaker 1>I personally have never been faced to face that close,

1464
01:23:13.159 --> 01:23:17.239
<v Speaker 1>but I've always imagined it. I've always thought about it.

1465
01:23:17.479 --> 01:23:22.159
<v Speaker 1>So my thing is if it happens, I pray that

1466
01:23:22.439 --> 01:23:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't get harmed, you know, because again we don't

1467
01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:28.760
<v Speaker 1>understand it. People say, oh, they're hard with Well, it's

1468
01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:32.079
<v Speaker 1>just like any wild animal, even a snake, a venomous snake.

1469
01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Don't put you, don't put yourself in that situation, or

1470
01:23:35.279 --> 01:23:37.039
<v Speaker 1>don't put them in a position where they have to

1471
01:23:37.079 --> 01:23:38.279
<v Speaker 1>strike at you.

1472
01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:38.439
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1473
01:23:39.399 --> 01:23:42.319
<v Speaker 5>But just like a snake, more people get hurt running

1474
01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:44.439
<v Speaker 5>from that snake, and they just get hurt.

1475
01:23:44.199 --> 01:23:47.720
<v Speaker 1>From the snake that or if your corner them, like

1476
01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:50.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, we have we have copper heads and rattlesnakes

1477
01:23:50.720 --> 01:23:53.359
<v Speaker 1>that are most venomous snakes up here in Virginia. Now,

1478
01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:57.479
<v Speaker 1>like in my old neighborhood I grew up in, individual

1479
01:23:57.640 --> 01:24:00.199
<v Speaker 1>was in his cross space or basement or whatever, all

1480
01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:04.720
<v Speaker 1>space and cornered a copperhend. You know, copperhead was down

1481
01:24:04.720 --> 01:24:07.640
<v Speaker 1>in his crass space, but he cornered it. Of course,

1482
01:24:07.680 --> 01:24:10.319
<v Speaker 1>that's venomus. Sneak is going to protect yourself. It's going

1483
01:24:10.399 --> 01:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to struck that he so as I tell people, just

1484
01:24:13.600 --> 01:24:16.279
<v Speaker 1>like with any species of wildlife, I don't care if

1485
01:24:16.279 --> 01:24:18.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a bear. Bears ain't gonna bother you. Just leave

1486
01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:20.560
<v Speaker 1>them alone, let them go about their business. You know. Yeah,

1487
01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:23.760
<v Speaker 1>they get nosy and curious, they come into your camp whatever.

1488
01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Most of the time you just make noise and scare

1489
01:24:25.880 --> 01:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>them out and they'll run off on the most part.

1490
01:24:28.079 --> 01:24:32.119
<v Speaker 1>But again, any bit of wildlife, just don't put yourself

1491
01:24:32.199 --> 01:24:35.159
<v Speaker 1>in that position to where they are forced to protect themselves,

1492
01:24:35.159 --> 01:24:41.159
<v Speaker 1>because you know, wildlife is gonna be wildlife. Raccoon, Oh

1493
01:24:41.199 --> 01:24:45.760
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, my father used to hunt records. He's told

1494
01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:48.319
<v Speaker 1>me stories about what they'll do to a dog. They'll

1495
01:24:48.359 --> 01:24:49.880
<v Speaker 1>shred a dog to pieces.

1496
01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't go ahead, damn say.

1497
01:24:55.199 --> 01:24:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, I was just going to add that. Uh,

1498
01:24:58.119 --> 01:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know I've seen play that places I

1499
01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:04.640
<v Speaker 1>worked at where we would you know, people I work

1500
01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:07.279
<v Speaker 1>with will go outside of the break room at night

1501
01:25:07.399 --> 01:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and the raccoons come around because people know they feed

1502
01:25:09.600 --> 01:25:12.439
<v Speaker 1>them crackers and stuff. And the raccoons they look cute

1503
01:25:12.439 --> 01:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and harmless, fat and cuddly. You know, you hand them rack.

1504
01:25:15.880 --> 01:25:19.159
<v Speaker 1>You're hearing them a cracker, you know, you know they're not.

1505
01:25:19.960 --> 01:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's kind of false advertising, because again they're

1506
01:25:22.720 --> 01:25:25.600
<v Speaker 1>wild animals and they will destroy you if they want to.

1507
01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:28.439
<v Speaker 1>You know, so keeping this, especially if you see him

1508
01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:30.960
<v Speaker 1>during the daytime. When it comes to a raccoon, stay

1509
01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:32.159
<v Speaker 1>away because it could be rabbit.

1510
01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:35.439
<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of people give us snakes a

1511
01:25:35.479 --> 01:25:37.960
<v Speaker 2>bad rap. Some people think they're gross and simon whatnot.

1512
01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:40.920
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and then that's why, you know, everybody's got

1513
01:25:40.920 --> 01:25:44.279
<v Speaker 2>their opinion. But I think, you know, I think these uh,

1514
01:25:44.520 --> 01:25:47.199
<v Speaker 2>these cotton mouths, you know, these water markets and have

1515
01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:49.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of been given a bad rap down here because

1516
01:25:49.359 --> 01:25:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Bobby and I Bobby almost stepped on one unknowingly he

1517
01:25:54.039 --> 01:25:54.680
<v Speaker 2>was in front of me.

1518
01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:58.319
<v Speaker 3>If Jim has stopped me, I had a probably stepped right.

1519
01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:02.439
<v Speaker 2>On inches inches and this thing did not want This

1520
01:26:02.439 --> 01:26:05.159
<v Speaker 2>thing did not want to bite. I was within inches

1521
01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:06.880
<v Speaker 2>with it of it, and all it did was it

1522
01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:08.840
<v Speaker 2>coiled up and laid its head on its back and

1523
01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:12.159
<v Speaker 2>opened its mouth. We filmed, you know, we were videotaping

1524
01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:13.880
<v Speaker 2>with the phone. Oh my god. We were just we

1525
01:26:14.039 --> 01:26:17.159
<v Speaker 2>practically stepped them, not not a foot away. We practically

1526
01:26:17.239 --> 01:26:20.079
<v Speaker 2>stepped on this guy and this little tiny brook of

1527
01:26:20.399 --> 01:26:24.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, water. And I took my walking stick video

1528
01:26:24.640 --> 01:26:27.159
<v Speaker 2>in it, and I'm like trying to show him along.

1529
01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:31.079
<v Speaker 2>He had no desire to be aggressive. He just wanted

1530
01:26:31.119 --> 01:26:32.960
<v Speaker 2>to be left alone. I'm trying to push him off

1531
01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:35.119
<v Speaker 2>of where we are, and he's like, Noah, I'm good,

1532
01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:37.159
<v Speaker 2>just just leave me alone. And it wasn't until we

1533
01:26:37.239 --> 01:26:42.279
<v Speaker 2>stepped back then he was like slithered away. And you know,

1534
01:26:42.319 --> 01:26:44.399
<v Speaker 2>I think if you step them one, yeah, he's gonna

1535
01:26:44.399 --> 01:26:46.560
<v Speaker 2>be like, Okay, I ain't got time for this, you know,

1536
01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:47.600
<v Speaker 2>get off me type of thing.

1537
01:26:48.039 --> 01:26:49.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't, don't.

1538
01:26:49.920 --> 01:26:53.439
<v Speaker 2>I've came across three hogs on my solo adventures down

1539
01:26:53.479 --> 01:26:55.640
<v Speaker 2>here in the swamps. Every single one of them. As

1540
01:26:55.680 --> 01:26:58.800
<v Speaker 2>soon as they see me, they acted like I had herpes.

1541
01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:03.119
<v Speaker 2>They ran as fast as they could. They just uh,

1542
01:27:03.159 --> 01:27:05.720
<v Speaker 2>they were gone. You know, they wanted nothing to do

1543
01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:07.680
<v Speaker 2>with me. They they looked at me and they're like, no,

1544
01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:08.840
<v Speaker 2>this guy's bad news.

1545
01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:11.640
<v Speaker 3>They just they bacon on your breath.

1546
01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:17.880
<v Speaker 2>They smelled bacon on Uh. So I haven't had any

1547
01:27:19.560 --> 01:27:21.960
<v Speaker 2>any issues with any of the wild animals that are

1548
01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:24.840
<v Speaker 2>not except they're not animals. It's ticks. There's ticks are

1549
01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:27.079
<v Speaker 2>our nightmare. There are nemesis.

1550
01:27:27.319 --> 01:27:30.119
<v Speaker 1>You guys, get ticks up there, Oh my gosh. Yes,

1551
01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>they're terrible.

1552
01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:36.640
<v Speaker 2>And the cans are four there. I'll drive three hours

1553
01:27:36.680 --> 01:27:38.000
<v Speaker 2>to go up there and be in the wood ten

1554
01:27:38.119 --> 01:27:40.119
<v Speaker 2>minutes and turn around and go three hours back home

1555
01:27:40.279 --> 01:27:43.079
<v Speaker 2>because when you get covered with one hundred ticks, your

1556
01:27:43.159 --> 01:27:47.600
<v Speaker 2>day's over. Yeah, your day is over. And I always

1557
01:27:47.600 --> 01:27:48.079
<v Speaker 2>bring up.

1558
01:27:47.960 --> 01:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you those are ey Oh absolutely talking about

1559
01:27:51.800 --> 01:27:54.880
<v Speaker 1>ticks real quick. Not to get too far off with

1560
01:27:55.079 --> 01:28:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the cold, extreme cold temperatures we're having right now, you know. Yeah,

1561
01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:02.399
<v Speaker 1>this is going to help out a little bit later

1562
01:28:02.479 --> 01:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>on when the weather does start from going back up.

1563
01:28:04.279 --> 01:28:07.439
<v Speaker 1>So so, yeah, because our last the last couple of

1564
01:28:07.560 --> 01:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>years are terrible. Ticks, extremely terrible, and ticks is the

1565
01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:14.920
<v Speaker 1>last thing I usually think about, but I do check myself. Yeah,

1566
01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:16.399
<v Speaker 1>we've had a lot of ticks here in the last

1567
01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:19.399
<v Speaker 1>few years. But I'm hoping because of these temperatures a

1568
01:28:19.439 --> 01:28:22.199
<v Speaker 1>lot colder than what we've had we've have been getting

1569
01:28:22.319 --> 01:28:26.279
<v Speaker 1>the last few years, I'm hoping it does some good

1570
01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>on that part. Yeah for sure.

1571
01:28:30.479 --> 01:28:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Well, man, it's been a great show. It's been a

1572
01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:34.359
<v Speaker 2>great show, a joy to talk with you, and I

1573
01:28:34.560 --> 01:28:36.760
<v Speaker 2>probably got more things you could probably share with us.

1574
01:28:38.520 --> 01:28:40.439
<v Speaker 2>I think we'll go ahead and wrap it up tonight

1575
01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:43.079
<v Speaker 2>because some people live in other time zones and they've

1576
01:28:43.119 --> 01:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>got things to do. But it was really a joy

1577
01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:49.000
<v Speaker 2>to have you on. Hopefully some of that sometimes you know,

1578
01:28:49.159 --> 01:28:51.760
<v Speaker 2>we can have you back on, we can pop over

1579
01:28:51.840 --> 01:28:53.039
<v Speaker 2>on your podcast sometimes.

1580
01:28:53.079 --> 01:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>You know. Oh I would love that, yeah, because you know,

1581
01:28:56.880 --> 01:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I know you mentioned you've had a

1582
01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:02.359
<v Speaker 1>encarnter there. I would love to hear about that as well.

1583
01:29:02.600 --> 01:29:07.760
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, yeah, just just a real quick shout out.

1584
01:29:07.840 --> 01:29:10.560
<v Speaker 2>So we will never see Jimmy here. Yes you will, Kathy,

1585
01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Yes you will. It'll happen. I promise it will happen.

1586
01:29:16.039 --> 01:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>What was what was she saying?

1587
01:29:17.760 --> 01:29:20.000
<v Speaker 2>She said, we'll never see Jimmy here in uh and

1588
01:29:20.479 --> 01:29:21.640
<v Speaker 2>up up there where she lives.

1589
01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:28.399
<v Speaker 5>Uh, he's been up there hundreds of times, Kathy. I

1590
01:29:28.479 --> 01:29:33.479
<v Speaker 5>have pictures to prove it, pictures on my phone of

1591
01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:34.960
<v Speaker 5>me and Jimmy out in the woods.

1592
01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:44.399
<v Speaker 2>But uh, you know, we have, uh had a lot

1593
01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:46.319
<v Speaker 2>of fun tonight, and like I said, we would love

1594
01:29:46.359 --> 01:29:48.119
<v Speaker 2>to come over and and and hang out with your

1595
01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:48.560
<v Speaker 2>channel to.

1596
01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely you know.

1597
01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:56.199
<v Speaker 2>I've reached out to you a while back in the past,

1598
01:29:56.359 --> 01:29:59.000
<v Speaker 2>just chatting and getting to know, you know, networking and whatnot.

1599
01:29:59.079 --> 01:30:00.680
<v Speaker 2>And and I've of you probably for.

1600
01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:03.119
<v Speaker 3>A couple of years now, I think, oh for sure.

1601
01:30:03.319 --> 01:30:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and.

1602
01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:10.199
<v Speaker 2>You've always seemed to have everything going for you as

1603
01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:12.840
<v Speaker 2>far as what you're presenting what you're putting out and

1604
01:30:12.960 --> 01:30:16.079
<v Speaker 2>the information you have, and you're put together pretty well.

1605
01:30:17.079 --> 01:30:19.800
<v Speaker 2>We are fly by the seat of Bobby's pants if

1606
01:30:19.920 --> 01:30:25.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm usually not wearing them, and and uh, you know,

1607
01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:32.159
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's just I wearing pants today. Uh, but

1608
01:30:33.039 --> 01:30:37.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's nice to see somebody. I would consider

1609
01:30:37.600 --> 01:30:42.079
<v Speaker 2>yourself a veteran of research because I've been doing this

1610
01:30:42.119 --> 01:30:45.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot longer we have, and we've got to always

1611
01:30:45.720 --> 01:30:48.920
<v Speaker 2>learn from people that's got more experience. And I think

1612
01:30:48.960 --> 01:30:50.760
<v Speaker 2>that's one of the things that what you're doing, what

1613
01:30:50.840 --> 01:30:52.800
<v Speaker 2>we're doing, reaching out and trying to network with people

1614
01:30:52.880 --> 01:30:55.680
<v Speaker 2>and hear their encounters, hear their shows, talk about their experiences,

1615
01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:58.199
<v Speaker 2>talk about their projects that are involved with bigfoot and

1616
01:30:58.279 --> 01:31:01.880
<v Speaker 2>cryptids and whatnot. There's no wrong answers in this. You

1617
01:31:01.960 --> 01:31:04.640
<v Speaker 2>can have a belief that they're flesh and blood, but

1618
01:31:04.680 --> 01:31:07.840
<v Speaker 2>that's your belief. That's not a fact. If it poops

1619
01:31:07.840 --> 01:31:09.279
<v Speaker 2>in the woods and it bleeds in the woods, it's

1620
01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:14.479
<v Speaker 2>it can be other. But that's that's neither here nor there.

1621
01:31:15.479 --> 01:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I just think that you know, in this subject, if

1622
01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:23.600
<v Speaker 2>you aren't open minded to bigfoot alone, you're gonna limit

1623
01:31:23.680 --> 01:31:28.520
<v Speaker 2>yourself to what you're actually looking for. Meaning, if you

1624
01:31:28.600 --> 01:31:32.359
<v Speaker 2>don't believe tree stock structures have anything to do with bigfoot,

1625
01:31:32.920 --> 01:31:35.000
<v Speaker 2>and you could be walking by fifty of them, you're

1626
01:31:35.039 --> 01:31:36.880
<v Speaker 2>not really doing all the research that you could be

1627
01:31:36.960 --> 01:31:40.199
<v Speaker 2>doing because you're getting information you're walking right yet by

1628
01:31:41.439 --> 01:31:44.560
<v Speaker 2>We don't know for a fact. I don't know for

1629
01:31:44.640 --> 01:31:47.439
<v Speaker 2>a fact that bigfoot make tree structures, But we have

1630
01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:51.319
<v Speaker 2>seen tree structures where footprints walked right up to x's,

1631
01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:53.640
<v Speaker 2>took a right turn in front of that X, right

1632
01:31:53.720 --> 01:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>up to it, took the right turn behind it, directly

1633
01:31:57.079 --> 01:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>behind it, and walked away. Meanwhile, it broke off everything

1634
01:32:00.039 --> 01:32:02.279
<v Speaker 2>thing else in its path up to that X, but

1635
01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:03.640
<v Speaker 2>it did not break that down.

1636
01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:04.159
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1637
01:32:05.199 --> 01:32:06.399
<v Speaker 2>That was one of the things I was going to

1638
01:32:06.439 --> 01:32:11.520
<v Speaker 2>ask you. What your experience with your encounter, you know,

1639
01:32:11.800 --> 01:32:16.479
<v Speaker 2>with what you experienced, What factually can you say about

1640
01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:20.520
<v Speaker 2>your experience that can be added to the puzzle of

1641
01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:24.159
<v Speaker 2>I think what's real? I mean, I'm a knower, Bobby's

1642
01:32:24.199 --> 01:32:26.359
<v Speaker 2>a knower. A lot of people on here are knowers.

1643
01:32:27.920 --> 01:32:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I've come across a lot of interests

1644
01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:35.319
<v Speaker 1>and structures and formations some that I will tell you

1645
01:32:35.479 --> 01:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>that I believe we're built by something with hands and

1646
01:32:38.039 --> 01:32:42.920
<v Speaker 1>a possable thumbs, something grip and have the intelligence to

1647
01:32:43.119 --> 01:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>combine and woven various structure or sticks or whatnot. However,

1648
01:32:50.039 --> 01:32:52.439
<v Speaker 1>when that being said, the one thing I always tell people,

1649
01:32:52.520 --> 01:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>because we did not witness what created or made it,

1650
01:32:56.800 --> 01:32:59.359
<v Speaker 1>I always say, there's got to be that possibility and

1651
01:32:59.439 --> 01:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>big point would only be our last consideration. So I'll

1652
01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:07.159
<v Speaker 1>never dismiss a structural information and say Bickford didn't do it.

1653
01:33:07.600 --> 01:33:09.479
<v Speaker 1>But I will also will say that he did not

1654
01:33:09.720 --> 01:33:12.039
<v Speaker 1>do it. You know, either he did or he did

1655
01:33:12.079 --> 01:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>it again. We we would have to be observant or

1656
01:33:15.880 --> 01:33:19.199
<v Speaker 1>witnesses to that. But uh, but again I always believe

1657
01:33:19.239 --> 01:33:22.720
<v Speaker 1>there's that possibility with most of what we find, uh,

1658
01:33:22.960 --> 01:33:25.439
<v Speaker 1>because I mean I've come across a lot of crazy

1659
01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:29.359
<v Speaker 1>stuff on the woods, and yeah, I have a collection

1660
01:33:29.439 --> 01:33:32.720
<v Speaker 1>of tracks I've gotten over the years, and uh, I

1661
01:33:32.800 --> 01:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>still have some of those tracks, but I've actually given

1662
01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>some of them way for souvenirs that some of my

1663
01:33:36.920 --> 01:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>past events that I hoped so but because you know,

1664
01:33:40.880 --> 01:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I kind of want that put out there. You know,

1665
01:33:43.720 --> 01:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I haven't found the track in a while, and I'm

1666
01:33:45.920 --> 01:33:48.079
<v Speaker 1>out there in the wist part of it. I find

1667
01:33:48.199 --> 01:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>impressions and promising things, but I haven't found anything good

1668
01:33:52.680 --> 01:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>enough to really cast again. You know, I'm sure I

1669
01:33:55.800 --> 01:33:58.279
<v Speaker 1>will eventually again, but it's going to take some time,

1670
01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:02.359
<v Speaker 1>but real quick. One of the things, I don't know

1671
01:34:02.359 --> 01:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>if you guys travel or like the venture elsewhere, but

1672
01:34:06.359 --> 01:34:08.439
<v Speaker 1>I've got my group camp out coming up in May.

1673
01:34:09.319 --> 01:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to throw the invitation out, the invitations out

1674
01:34:12.039 --> 01:34:12.359
<v Speaker 1>to you guys.

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01:34:12.439 --> 01:34:14.760
<v Speaker 3>You want to be a part of that awesome It's.

1676
01:34:15.279 --> 01:34:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Very squatchy area. We will be doing some filming during

1677
01:34:18.159 --> 01:34:21.039
<v Speaker 1>that time, so I'm we only have fun.

1678
01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:23.199
<v Speaker 3>What part of are you in?

1679
01:34:24.279 --> 01:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm only I'm over in the Shenandoah Valley. It's the

1680
01:34:27.720 --> 01:34:31.760
<v Speaker 1>western part of the state. Yeah, but the camp location

1681
01:34:32.119 --> 01:34:35.399
<v Speaker 1>is going to be uh well, I'm not gonna mention

1682
01:34:35.520 --> 01:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing right off the top of my head,

1683
01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>but it's gonna be in the you know, it's out

1684
01:34:38.520 --> 01:34:41.920
<v Speaker 1>here in the Shanado Valley. So we do it. It's

1685
01:34:41.920 --> 01:34:44.119
<v Speaker 1>an invite. I only do it invite only. I only

1686
01:34:44.159 --> 01:34:46.760
<v Speaker 1>share the location with those who really seriously going to

1687
01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:48.800
<v Speaker 1>be there. So if you guys wanted to be up there,

1688
01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll definitely share the GPS coordinates with you.

1689
01:34:51.840 --> 01:34:57.720
<v Speaker 3>So in West Virginia a lot, and it's really gorgeous

1690
01:34:57.880 --> 01:34:58.199
<v Speaker 3>up there.

1691
01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we're in Virginia, but where we can't back.

1692
01:35:02.680 --> 01:35:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well we can't at it is close to

1693
01:35:05.079 --> 01:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>West Virginia, but still here in Virginia.

1694
01:35:07.760 --> 01:35:11.520
<v Speaker 2>H awesome, absolutely great show. I want to thank everybody

1695
01:35:11.520 --> 01:35:12.880
<v Speaker 2>in the chapter coming out all. We had a lot

1696
01:35:12.920 --> 01:35:15.680
<v Speaker 2>of friends and family in there, fellow researchers, people we've

1697
01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:18.159
<v Speaker 2>been out with, people we hang out with people. Respect

1698
01:35:19.039 --> 01:35:23.000
<v Speaker 2>are our mods, Diane and Cashew are We couldn't do

1699
01:35:23.039 --> 01:35:26.920
<v Speaker 2>a show without him, not not coordinated in an actual

1700
01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:32.199
<v Speaker 2>quality show. And Bobby. Bobby was on point tonight with

1701
01:35:32.439 --> 01:35:35.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever topic and site you were bringing up. He was

1702
01:35:35.079 --> 01:35:37.800
<v Speaker 2>popping it up as you were talking about it, like

1703
01:35:38.560 --> 01:35:41.359
<v Speaker 2>live feed editing.

1704
01:35:42.359 --> 01:35:42.479
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

1705
01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:44.399
<v Speaker 2>That was awesome to see that. You know, you were

1706
01:35:44.439 --> 01:35:46.960
<v Speaker 2>talking about your website and he popped it right up

1707
01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:48.800
<v Speaker 2>for everybody to see, so they didn't have to what

1708
01:35:48.880 --> 01:35:49.279
<v Speaker 2>do he say?

1709
01:35:49.359 --> 01:35:49.840
<v Speaker 1>What do you say?

1710
01:35:50.399 --> 01:35:51.039
<v Speaker 2>That was on point?

1711
01:35:51.079 --> 01:35:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Wow, that was I was trying to say, Diane because

1712
01:35:55.600 --> 01:36:00.279
<v Speaker 3>she's usually the one that has to yeah, yeah, yeah,

1713
01:36:00.279 --> 01:36:04.159
<v Speaker 3>And it didn't help that Daniels. Yeah, yeah, we were

1714
01:36:04.159 --> 01:36:06.359
<v Speaker 3>able to have a little time to get it up there.

1715
01:36:06.520 --> 01:36:10.439
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I saw I saw you post up on

1716
01:36:10.560 --> 01:36:12.520
<v Speaker 1>pap up a little. A couple of comments on there.

1717
01:36:12.560 --> 01:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>I didn't I didn't pay attention to that. I could

1718
01:36:14.359 --> 01:36:14.680
<v Speaker 1>catch that.

1719
01:36:14.800 --> 01:36:19.880
<v Speaker 3>One of them was a question sometime. They asked the

1720
01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:21.479
<v Speaker 3>win was the.

1721
01:36:23.159 --> 01:36:26.119
<v Speaker 5>Conference and I I clicked on one of the links

1722
01:36:26.159 --> 01:36:28.159
<v Speaker 5>and it said I believe it was the sixth through

1723
01:36:28.199 --> 01:36:30.279
<v Speaker 5>the ninth, June sixth to ninth.

1724
01:36:30.520 --> 01:36:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Maybe oh for my event, yes, yes, oh, June twentieth

1725
01:36:37.399 --> 01:36:38.279
<v Speaker 1>and the twenty first.

1726
01:36:38.920 --> 01:36:39.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh goodness.

1727
01:36:41.359 --> 01:36:43.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're a.

1728
01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Couple of weeks earlier.

1729
01:36:45.720 --> 01:36:47.199
<v Speaker 3>Talking about the conference, so.

1730
01:36:49.119 --> 01:36:53.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, I mean there is. I'll lets her thinking

1731
01:36:53.439 --> 01:36:55.960
<v Speaker 1>about West Virginia because I'll be speaking at West Virginia,

1732
01:36:56.439 --> 01:36:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the West Virginia BIS Festival June sixth, seven and eight.

1733
01:37:00.039 --> 01:37:02.399
<v Speaker 1>It's a oh no, excuse me, let me back up.

1734
01:37:02.520 --> 01:37:05.880
<v Speaker 1>June sixth, seventh, eighth. I'll be in Marionville, Pennsylvania. It's

1735
01:37:05.880 --> 01:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>a huge festival. I'll be speaking there. Then my event

1736
01:37:11.119 --> 01:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>June twentieth and twenty first in June here in Virginia,

1737
01:37:14.600 --> 01:37:19.159
<v Speaker 1>and then West Virginia Suton, West Virginia is June twenty sixth, seventh,

1738
01:37:19.239 --> 01:37:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and twenty eighth is the Sutton, West, Virginia Bigfoot Festival,

1739
01:37:25.239 --> 01:37:28.720
<v Speaker 1>another huge event. So June's going to be very busy

1740
01:37:28.760 --> 01:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>a month. I'll be speaking at events and hosting my event.

1741
01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:36.159
<v Speaker 1>So but yeah, my event is. If you want information,

1742
01:37:36.399 --> 01:37:39.479
<v Speaker 1>just look me up Daniel Baignoire on Facebook ecbro O

1743
01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:46.039
<v Speaker 1>ninety eight or go to my website VA Bigfootcon dot com.

1744
01:37:46.840 --> 01:37:49.880
<v Speaker 3>So that was the question. Can you please let me

1745
01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:52.720
<v Speaker 3>know the date and time for the event in George

1746
01:37:52.840 --> 01:37:53.600
<v Speaker 3>or in Virginia?

1747
01:37:54.039 --> 01:37:58.039
<v Speaker 1>So oh yes, June twenty Yeah, go to VA Bigfootcon

1748
01:37:58.159 --> 01:38:02.199
<v Speaker 1>dot com. Or find me on Facebook Daniel bin Wall

1749
01:38:03.319 --> 01:38:08.920
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, okay, sorry, so yeah, or email me at E. C.

1750
01:38:09.159 --> 01:38:12.399
<v Speaker 1>B r O ninety eight at gmail dot com. So

1751
01:38:13.319 --> 01:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not hard to find. I'm all over social media.

1752
01:38:16.840 --> 01:38:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Awesome. Well, everybody thanks in the chat, everybody at our

1753
01:38:21.079 --> 01:38:23.640
<v Speaker 2>our Facebook pages at bigfootour Shines, so she'll be big Foot,

1754
01:38:23.680 --> 01:38:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot four Shines podcast channel, watching every watching everywhere you

1755
01:38:27.680 --> 01:38:29.560
<v Speaker 2>are watching. Thank you guys for coming out and spending

1756
01:38:29.600 --> 01:38:31.800
<v Speaker 2>time with us and hanging out. It was fun, it

1757
01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:34.560
<v Speaker 2>was enlightening, and it was chill.

1758
01:38:34.640 --> 01:38:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Man.

1759
01:38:35.159 --> 01:38:37.920
<v Speaker 2>When when you have a good guest on the show

1760
01:38:38.039 --> 01:38:41.319
<v Speaker 2>is so much easier than Uh. Then I get all

1761
01:38:41.439 --> 01:38:44.399
<v Speaker 2>anxiety built up right before we go live, you know,

1762
01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:47.560
<v Speaker 2>and I have no fingernails. They're down, they're down to

1763
01:38:47.640 --> 01:38:48.239
<v Speaker 2>the second though.

1764
01:38:49.119 --> 01:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, I get this, I get it. I'm the

1765
01:38:51.960 --> 01:38:54.800
<v Speaker 1>same way I I I totally understand. I can relate

1766
01:38:54.880 --> 01:38:55.039
<v Speaker 1>to that.

1767
01:38:55.760 --> 01:38:59.159
<v Speaker 3>Yes, when fingernails, I don't know what you're talking about.

1768
01:39:03.640 --> 01:39:07.960
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, man, thank everybody for showing up. And Danielle,

1769
01:39:07.960 --> 01:39:10.399
<v Speaker 2>I'll put you back. I'll put you backstage for just

1770
01:39:10.479 --> 01:39:12.960
<v Speaker 2>a second because every time I do this any other time,

1771
01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:15.840
<v Speaker 2>when I end the live stream, it shuts everybody off.

1772
01:39:15.920 --> 01:39:17.479
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't know if you wanted to chat afterwards

1773
01:39:17.520 --> 01:39:18.439
<v Speaker 2>or if you want to go right.

1774
01:39:18.399 --> 01:39:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, oh no, that's right. Yeah, I'll be

1775
01:39:20.960 --> 01:39:22.319
<v Speaker 1>hanging around. I don't have going on.

1776
01:39:22.920 --> 01:39:26.279
<v Speaker 2>All right, I'll I'll see if this works and then

1777
01:39:26.319 --> 01:39:29.199
<v Speaker 2>we'll see what happens. All right, everybody, thanks for stopping in.

1778
01:39:29.279 --> 01:39:32.920
<v Speaker 2>We'll let you guys know shortly who our next guest is.

1779
01:39:33.159 --> 01:39:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I've got three or four people. They're lined up, but

1780
01:39:36.680 --> 01:39:39.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to get their schedules so match our schedules.

1781
01:39:40.359 --> 01:39:42.640
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes, you know, being in a different time zone,

1782
01:39:42.680 --> 01:39:44.520
<v Speaker 2>we have to alter our schedules if we really want

1783
01:39:44.560 --> 01:39:46.319
<v Speaker 2>to have them on in the first place. So there's

1784
01:39:46.319 --> 01:39:49.039
<v Speaker 2>a there's a give and take of thing. But we'll

1785
01:39:49.159 --> 01:39:52.119
<v Speaker 2>let everybody get out of here. Everybody have a great night.

1786
01:39:52.199 --> 01:39:53.760
<v Speaker 2>We'll see you next time later, Bob.

1787
01:39:54.439 --> 01:39:55.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah,