1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,600 go to thepeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,079 your support. Uh, I'm just really tired. But it's Monday. 10 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:35,359 It's two o'clock, and that means we talked to Ap Dylan. Hello, Ap, 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,159 how are you? 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,079 Speaker 2: I'm great? Pete how are you? 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,799 Speaker 1: I am great as well. Ap Dylan, by the way, 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,960 is a reporter for the North State Journal at sjonline 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,159 dot com, and she also publishes her substack newsletter. It's 16 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,840 called more to the Story. So I'm gonna actually pull 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,479 one from each for purposes of our discussion today. Let's 18 00:00:54,479 --> 00:00:59,000 talk about parental rights. We did North Carolina did pass 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,000 a parent's Bill of rights? Did we not? I kind 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,760 of feel like we did that. Yeah, yes we did. Okay, 21 00:01:04,799 --> 00:01:08,640 so this is what in addition to this is more 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,239 rights for parents. 23 00:01:10,799 --> 00:01:13,599 Speaker 2: Well, this one, it delves a little bit more into 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,200 the curriculum and challenges over books and materials. There's been 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,040 a lot of protests in the last three or four 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,680 years about books that have obscene content or pornographic content 27 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,280 in them. Some of them were readily available in case 28 00:01:27,359 --> 00:01:31,400 five schools, and I've seen some of the images and 29 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,359 they're not something that news media can actually put on 30 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,079 their website, but yet they can be found in K 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,680 twelve libraries, right. 32 00:01:38,719 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: That to me has always been like that's a good 33 00:01:41,359 --> 00:01:44,280 rule of thumb, you know, like if you want to 34 00:01:44,359 --> 00:01:47,840 show the book at the public meeting, at the school 35 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,439 board public meeting, and you're not allowed to show the 36 00:01:50,519 --> 00:01:55,359 images on screen during the school board meeting, that should 37 00:01:55,359 --> 00:01:58,000 be the line. Then you probably shouldn't be showing that 38 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,760 to you know, fifth graders. 39 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:03,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, this legislation kind of centers on that. It has 40 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,480 a section in it would prohibit instruction on gender identity, 41 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,919 sexual activity, or sexuality in grades K through six because 42 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,759 human sexuality and health classes don't start until seventh grade, 43 00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:19,639 and it would have required parental consent on an annual 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:24,680 basis for those topics in grades seven through twelve. It 45 00:02:24,719 --> 00:02:27,599 also has a specific requirement for human growth and development 46 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,759 education for grades four and five to make it age 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,520 appropriate and content taught within single sex groups with parental consent. 48 00:02:34,599 --> 00:02:37,280 That's already sort of happening, but this just reinforces that 49 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,879 there's a lot of stuff in there that's interesting to 50 00:02:42,039 --> 00:02:46,159 They replace local board of education with governing body. What 51 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,439 that does. It's significant because it makes the scope of 52 00:02:50,479 --> 00:02:53,159 these book review panels or committees that are established by 53 00:02:53,159 --> 00:02:55,840 a school board would fall under that now, so it 54 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,840 wouldn't just be the district, it would be these small 55 00:02:57,879 --> 00:03:00,840 governing bodies that get appointed to view these books. 56 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: Is that up to the school districts? Do you know, 57 00:03:03,199 --> 00:03:06,400 do do the do the boards of d decide whether 58 00:03:06,479 --> 00:03:09,639 they want to appoint those types of bodies? Oh? 59 00:03:09,719 --> 00:03:12,319 Speaker 2: Yes, Oh yes. So in fact, Wait County Schools, the 60 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,120 biggest district in the state, has has a little committee 61 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,159 that they've got set up for that, and they put 62 00:03:17,199 --> 00:03:20,560 in place a really problematic policy where if you challenge 63 00:03:20,599 --> 00:03:24,120 a book, any any particular book, and the challenge fails, 64 00:03:24,719 --> 00:03:27,759 no one can challenge that title again for two years. 65 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,080 So that's that's something that I think the parents in 66 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,840 Wake County have been looking at and saying, you know, 67 00:03:34,919 --> 00:03:37,439 this isn't fair. Anyone should be able to challenge a 68 00:03:37,439 --> 00:03:41,120 book at any time, so they they're looking at that 69 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,240 is restrictive to their to their rights as parents. And 70 00:03:46,439 --> 00:03:48,360 the Bell also does a little thing that I think 71 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,439 is interesting. A lot of school districts when they have 72 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:55,759 a program or something that they want to they want 73 00:03:55,759 --> 00:03:59,159 the kids to be involved, and normally parents have to 74 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:04,000 write in and opt out for these things, right so 75 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,159 you know, and if they don't react, or they don't 76 00:04:06,199 --> 00:04:07,680 they don't send in an opt out, their kid has 77 00:04:07,719 --> 00:04:10,199 automatically swept up in the program or whatever it is 78 00:04:10,199 --> 00:04:13,759 they're doing at the school. This would sort of replace 79 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,079 that method and students wouldn't be able to participate without 80 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,639 prior written consent from the parent legal guardian. So it 81 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:22,720 goes from an opt out to an opt in. I 82 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,519 think that's important. Yeah, there have been some interesting things 83 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:28,959 that if I'm usually pretty up on my kids' education 84 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,920 and what's going on in their schools, and I see 85 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,279 those newsletters that come home, but sometimes buried in them 86 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,839 you'll find something you know that you you don't want 87 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,399 your kid to participate in. And unless you saw the 88 00:04:39,439 --> 00:04:42,759 fine writing and you opted out in in a timely manner. 89 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,279 You're not gonna your kid's gonna get swept up in it. 90 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,839 I haven't had that problem with my kid that because 91 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,199 I've kept on top of it. But I know a 92 00:04:49,199 --> 00:04:51,759 lot of parents that found out, you know, months later 93 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,399 that their kids took X class and they really didn't 94 00:04:54,399 --> 00:04:57,720 want them to do that. So, you know, this opt 95 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,279 in opt out thing has been a sticky wicket for while. 96 00:05:00,639 --> 00:05:03,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean especially for this kind of these 97 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:08,759 kinds of topics and material right, Like, it seems like 98 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,680 the safer route is to do an opt in, to 99 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,839 not make it the default setting. And this way people 100 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,600 don't want their kid going in and you know, learning 101 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,079 that they can have seveny genders, then they're not automatically 102 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,040 enrolled in that. And yeah, I failed to mention this 103 00:05:25,079 --> 00:05:26,519 is house built five ninety five. 104 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,319 Speaker 2: Yes, and it has one more thing in there that's 105 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,720 interesting too. They they're upping the legal definitions, expanding the 106 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:38,879 definitions about disseminating materials harmful to minors. So that's going 107 00:05:38,959 --> 00:05:43,639 to change how these these graphic sexual depictions and pervasive 108 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,000 language books are going to be handled in the classroom, 109 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,360 more handled by a district The language added would make 110 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,839 it offense to allow a minor to review a peruse 111 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,959 material that is harmful to minors. And basically that's an 112 00:05:57,959 --> 00:06:03,920 extension of you know, broad statutes that cover obscenity or 113 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:09,079 public you know, public obscenity laws. So it'll be interesting 114 00:06:09,079 --> 00:06:11,000 to see how this one plays out. It's been something 115 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,160 that's been pushed by for parents for a while and 116 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,399 where parents and we count even went to the extremes 117 00:06:15,439 --> 00:06:18,120 of going to the Wake County sheriff and finding criminal 118 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,800 complaints over the books that they found because they were 119 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,720 deemed obscene and they met the level of obscenity for 120 00:06:23,959 --> 00:06:26,560 state statutes that they you know, you couldn't display this 121 00:06:26,639 --> 00:06:28,759 on the street or or in media, So why was 122 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:30,040 this available in the schools. 123 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,199 Speaker 1: I'm sure the sheriff got right on that. 124 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he basically he foul food them. Yeah. 125 00:06:36,759 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: So this is a response basically to I think you 126 00:06:39,639 --> 00:06:42,759 called it roadblocks that parents have encountered in trying to 127 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,759 get certain books removed. And there's also an element that 128 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:52,079 affects the public libraries, not just in the schools, right, 129 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,639 but these are county public libraries as well, where parents 130 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,000 are going to be able to access their kids' library records. 131 00:06:59,399 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: Well yeah, well yeah, this bill actually only really targets 132 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,000 the schools, and the parents would have access to their 133 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,800 child's library record, what they've taken out, what they've viewed, 134 00:07:09,839 --> 00:07:13,399 what they've looked at. And I do believe that they 135 00:07:13,399 --> 00:07:16,240 were considering a provision or them might have instituted it 136 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,240 in the latest version of the bill where they would 137 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,079 create like sort of a curated section where these materials 138 00:07:24,079 --> 00:07:26,759 could could be, but you would have to have to 139 00:07:26,759 --> 00:07:29,959 give your kids specific permission to go and take those out. 140 00:07:30,759 --> 00:07:32,560 I think it's honestly a good compromise. 141 00:07:32,759 --> 00:07:35,079 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's kind of like the uh that back 142 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,920 room behind the curtain at the old Blockbusters stores, right exactly. 143 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,639 Speaker 2: I mean some of these books I've seen them, they're 144 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,439 they're pretty graphic. They're called gender Queer, and I mean 145 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:49,439 it's got full on sexual encounters, yeah, with images. It's 146 00:07:49,439 --> 00:07:50,240 a graphic novel. 147 00:07:50,639 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a comic book quote unquote, but it's yeah, 148 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,639 it's a graphic graphic novel. It's it's cartoon drawings of 149 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,680 kids having sex. It's yeah, like I don't understand how 150 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,319 that's how that's not illegal. But you know, if I 151 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,399 guess if the left wants it, they want what they want. 152 00:08:06,839 --> 00:08:09,079 And actually you mentioned gender queer in a piece, So 153 00:08:09,079 --> 00:08:11,199 that's by the way, I was going off of the 154 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,199 North State Journal article that you've got there. It's at 155 00:08:14,279 --> 00:08:17,360 NSJ online dot coming at all the details. Then that 156 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,560 ap breaks down on House Bill five ninety five, and 157 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,319 then there's your substack newsletter the more to the story 158 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,959 notes talking about what an executive order. I had not 159 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:33,519 heard this from Donald Trump that is targeting this same 160 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,559 sort of thing, and in fact, you mentioned gender Queer 161 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,000 in this post as well. 162 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: Yes, that's that's the book that seems to be the 163 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,559 target at the most, because it really is. 164 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: Graphic. 165 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:49,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, President Trump issued an executive order and 166 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,360 this was earlier this month, I believe, and in that 167 00:08:53,639 --> 00:08:56,399 he's he talks about a section reducing the scope of 168 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:01,320 federal bureaucracy, and underneath there he talks about cutting services 169 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:06,360 and functions associated with certain organizations within the government, and 170 00:09:06,399 --> 00:09:09,360 one of them is the Institute of Museum and Library Services. 171 00:09:09,919 --> 00:09:13,919 And why that's important to the pornography book topic that 172 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:17,399 we're talking about here is that the Museum of Library 173 00:09:17,399 --> 00:09:21,879 Services funds the American Library Association the ALA, and the 174 00:09:21,919 --> 00:09:26,320 ALA is really the party responsible for these indecent and 175 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,120 pornographic books not only being allowed in schools, but protected 176 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:35,279 in K twelve schools. They've given them protected status and 177 00:09:34,879 --> 00:09:37,240 there's been a slew of bills that have come along 178 00:09:37,639 --> 00:09:40,759 in nearly every state where the ALA, along with the 179 00:09:40,799 --> 00:09:45,519 A c l U and others, have filed lawsuits trying 180 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:50,120 to make sure that these books stay in libraries. The 181 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:54,120 ALA was also one of the leaders of the charge. 182 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:59,159 Every year they have their Banned bookd list, and number 183 00:09:59,159 --> 00:10:01,039 one on that list for three years I believe is 184 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,559 ben gender queer. And these aren't Obviously, these aren't banned books. 185 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,879 You know, no one's banning books. They just don't want them. 186 00:10:07,919 --> 00:10:10,879 Beautabule in K twelve Public Library. You can go buy it, 187 00:10:10,879 --> 00:10:13,120 you can go elsewhere and get it, but we just 188 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,039 don't think they're appropriate for K twelve kids. 189 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just curation, that's all it is. Yeah. I mean, 190 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,440 you curate the books just like you curate them in 191 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,440 the bookstores. Right, you separate them. Here are the cookbooks 192 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,399 and here are the self help books. You do this 193 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,039 all the time, and you can't stop every single book 194 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,879 ever written in every library, so obviously decisions get made 195 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,799 about what books should be on the shelves. This is 196 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,080 no different Yeah, and they're not banning the books just 197 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,759 because they chose different books. 198 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. The ALA has been very activist related. 199 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they've gone. 200 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: They're a Book of the Year award. 201 00:10:47,159 --> 00:10:47,759 Speaker 1: Yeah they Oh. 202 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 2: I mean you can tell what's going on there. But 203 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,639 you know, the libraries need to be a site of 204 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,200 socialist organizing was the big theme last in twenty twenty three, 205 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,720 YEP for the ALA, with their their former president or 206 00:11:00,799 --> 00:11:03,240 executive officer there. She was only there for four or 207 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,759 five months before she got punted out after a lot 208 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:08,600 of her social media stuff came out talking about the 209 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,919 you know, the wonderful things that socialism and communism can 210 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,200 do and how we need to infuse that into our libraries. 211 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when I would I would cover a couple 212 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,240 of those stories. When I was covering it, it's like 213 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,639 it's so crazy. People think it's not true, but it is, 214 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,639 like the like there, it's captured. The organization was captured 215 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:33,600 by literal communists and people who advanced Marxism and then 216 00:11:33,879 --> 00:11:37,559 used their positions and these institutions that had built because 217 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,399 that's what communism does, so that Marxism does it. It hollows 218 00:11:40,399 --> 00:11:43,759 out the institutions and then walks around in you know, 219 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,840 the skin suit of the of the deceased institution and 220 00:11:47,879 --> 00:11:50,360 then demand that you pay respect to it based on 221 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:53,320 the institution's credibility that it had built up before you 222 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,639 hollowed it out, right, exactly. 223 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: And a lot of these school boards use the alas 224 00:11:58,039 --> 00:12:01,039 is their reasoning for keeping these books on the shelves. Right, So, 225 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,600 oh well, look, the LA says it's a great book, 226 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,919 says it's got five stars, you know. But meanwhile, you know, 227 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,159 the parents are like holding the stuff up in the 228 00:12:09,159 --> 00:12:11,120 middle of the board, meaning he's yelling at them saying, 229 00:12:11,159 --> 00:12:13,200 you know, is this something you'd want your child to 230 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:13,639 be reading? 231 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. You can read more about that if 232 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,399 you subscribe, and you can do that for free. Get 233 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:23,759 her newsletters sent to you as well. AP Dylan dot 234 00:12:23,799 --> 00:12:26,399 substack dot com. It's called more to the Story and 235 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:28,559 reader work at North State Journal. AP always go to 236 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:29,840 chat with you. 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Got a message 257 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:44,159 here from Kevin. During the break, I heard a news 258 00:13:44,159 --> 00:13:47,159 bit of President Trump. He said Ukraine should not have 259 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,039 started the war with Russia unless they know they have 260 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,159 enough missiles to win. Sorry, I know this is off topic, 261 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,399 it's not acceptable, Kevin, but could you help us understand 262 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,960 how Ukraine? I cannot. I cannot help you understand how 263 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,799 it was that Ukraine started the war. All this time, 264 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,639 I thought Russia was the aggressor. President Trump may know 265 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:13,279 something we don't. That's possible, but no, I yeah, Russia 266 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:18,159 invaded Ukraine. So I kind of feel like that's the like, 267 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,399 that's the beginning of the war, right, when one foreign 268 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:27,039 country runs their tanks and stuff into another country, Like, 269 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,600 that's that's my understanding of how wars start, all right. So, 270 00:14:31,639 --> 00:14:37,320 while North Carolina is looking to strengthen parental rights, you 271 00:14:37,399 --> 00:14:41,720 could go the other direction, and Colorado is showing us 272 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:47,200 that way for us the yeah, Colorado. This is according 273 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,879 to Jonathan Turley at his website Jonathan Turley dot org, 274 00:14:52,279 --> 00:14:55,360 that Colorado is poised to pass a law that would 275 00:14:55,399 --> 00:15:02,159 threaten the custody rights of parents who dead name they're kids. 276 00:15:02,799 --> 00:15:06,159 Do you know what dead naming is. It's when you 277 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,480 add the word dead after your kid's name. So I 278 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,799 would be Pete dead. I'm just kidding, That's not what 279 00:15:14,799 --> 00:15:17,480 it means. Dead naming is when you call your child 280 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:23,440 the name you gave him or her after that child says, 281 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,840 I don't identify as that gender any longer. I want 282 00:15:27,879 --> 00:15:30,000 to be called something else now. I don't know, by 283 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,960 the way, if this sort of course of action is 284 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,759 available to you, if, for example, you just don't like 285 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,960 your name, Like, you're not gender confused or anything like that. 286 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:45,240 You're not asking to be transd but you just don't 287 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:48,799 like your name and you want a cool name instead 288 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,159 of the dome name that mom and dad gave me, Right, 289 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,039 So can you just be like, I no longer identify 290 00:15:55,279 --> 00:16:05,600 as Pete I am now, I don't know Max Power. Yeah, 291 00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:09,120 I like that's a strong sounding name, Max Power. Right, 292 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:11,759 that's my name now. And so if my mom and 293 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,320 dad were to call me Pete, then I could maybe 294 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,639 accuse them of dead naming me, right, because I know 295 00:16:19,759 --> 00:16:23,000 I'm not identifying as Pete anymore. I don't know if 296 00:16:23,039 --> 00:16:25,279 that option is available. I'm not sure if you have 297 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,360 to go through like the therapy and the hormones and 298 00:16:29,399 --> 00:16:31,840 maybe some surgeries or something in order to get the 299 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,480 dead name option to go, you know, to punish your 300 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,000 parents with. But oh, it's not just dead naming either, 301 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,000 it's also misgendering. So if you mess up on a pronoun, 302 00:16:43,519 --> 00:16:47,559 that's your ass, the your kid, Sorry, that's your kid, 303 00:16:47,559 --> 00:16:52,120 they're gonna take your kid, your own kid. See this 304 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,399 is where this always leads. I used to joke with 305 00:16:54,759 --> 00:17:00,200 a school board member about how to make sure that 306 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,480 all kids have the exact same opportunity to get a 307 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,079 great education, because they were always, you know, trying to 308 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:10,599 figure out the best way to you know, to normalize 309 00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:12,960 that and close any gaps and everything else. And I said, well, 310 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,400 there is a way, you know, if you just take 311 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,759 all of the kids and you know, put them in 312 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:21,519 like an orphanage, and then everybody has that exact same background, 313 00:17:21,559 --> 00:17:25,960 that upbringing, and then everybody is equal. And then oh yeah, 314 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,839 we can't do that. Well why not, isn't it for 315 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:34,400 the kids? I thought my logic was unassailable. All right, 316 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,240 if you're listening to this show, you know I try 317 00:17:36,279 --> 00:17:38,039 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 318 00:17:38,079 --> 00:17:40,160 I know you do too, And you probably heard me 319 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,400 say get your news from multiple sources. Why well, because 320 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,119 it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've 321 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,440 been so impressed with ground News. It's an app and 322 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,599 it's a website, and it combines news from around the 323 00:17:53,599 --> 00:17:56,279 world in one place so you can compare coverage and 324 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,400 verify information. You could check it out at check dot 325 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,359 gram owned dot news slash Pete. 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Your subscription 335 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,160 then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports 336 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,440 ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. 337 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:44,160 So Colorado looking to go full crazy and pass a 338 00:18:44,279 --> 00:18:47,839 law that says if a parent does not adopt a 339 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:53,039 child's new pronouns or their new name, they could be 340 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:59,960 found to have exercised coercive control, which is what school 341 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,599 exercise really all the time if you think about it. 342 00:19:02,599 --> 00:19:07,119 But coercive control, and that means they would lose custody 343 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:13,200 in a divorce proceeding to a parent who's more enlightened. 344 00:19:16,319 --> 00:19:21,039 I'm sure this won't be abused at all by parents 345 00:19:21,079 --> 00:19:23,400 that are going through a divorce and hate each other 346 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:28,440 and are using their kids to hurt the other, or 347 00:19:28,759 --> 00:19:33,599 kids who are struggling with their parents getting divorced and 348 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:38,279 so in an attempt to gain attention, gain the love 349 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,440 of a parent or something, or try to, you know, 350 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:44,440 in their own way of thinking, like they're going to 351 00:19:44,519 --> 00:19:47,359 fix this or whatever, and so they're going to now 352 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:58,440 pursue this, Like this is coercive control. Isn't that parenting? Actually, 353 00:19:58,599 --> 00:20:01,480 isn't that? Like, Look, I don't have kids, but my 354 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:06,559 assessment from AFAR is that basically everything you do as 355 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:11,680 a parent is coercive control. I mean, especially at the 356 00:20:11,759 --> 00:20:14,799 younger ages. I mean you're just picking them up, right, 357 00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:17,359 you just pick them up, they just move them around. 358 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,559 I mean acts like kidnapping basically, right, you prevent them 359 00:20:21,599 --> 00:20:25,759 from leaving certain spaces like their playpen or whatever. Kidnapping. 360 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:31,480 That seems like coercive control. I'm no lawyer, and I'm 361 00:20:31,519 --> 00:20:36,519 no Colorado gov Co lawmaker, but it does kind of 362 00:20:36,519 --> 00:20:39,160 seem like This is the parent's lean, you know, like 363 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,599 they they have a lot of rights to exert the 364 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,920 coercive control over their kids. Tell them when to go 365 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,039 to bed, when to wake up, when to eat, what 366 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,599 to eat? Right, they tell them all sorts of stuff. 367 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,519 Get off your phone. My goodness, I'm just getting a 368 00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:57,240 few parents do that anymore. But under the new proposal, 369 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,480 make dead naming and making dead naming and misgendering children 370 00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:07,160 a factor in child custody disputes. So if you refer 371 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,720 to your child's biological gender or given name or pronoun 372 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:16,000 would now be considered harmful and abusive, inviting a court 373 00:21:16,279 --> 00:21:19,680 to take your child away from you as a quote 374 00:21:19,799 --> 00:21:23,920 coercive parent. Again. This is a piece by Jonathan Turley, 375 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:29,480 a constitutional law expert. He says parents may believe that 376 00:21:29,519 --> 00:21:32,960 a young child should proceed slowly and not make such 377 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,240 changes as they consider the implications of those decisions. If 378 00:21:38,279 --> 00:21:43,200 you are one of those parents that maybe thinking, at 379 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,720 some point, you know what, I think, I would pump 380 00:21:45,759 --> 00:21:49,559 the brakes a little on, you know, this pathway towards 381 00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:55,319 the irreversible hormone treatments and stuff and the surgeries and 382 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,519 all that, Like I would want to slow that down 383 00:21:57,519 --> 00:22:00,200 and make sure the kid really understands, maybe after you 384 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,599 know their brain has fully developed. If you think you 385 00:22:04,759 --> 00:22:07,680 might be that parent, you need to get the hell 386 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:16,640 out of Colorado. Representative Lorena Garcia said, quote, this bill 387 00:22:16,759 --> 00:22:19,279 is the bare minimum of what we can do as 388 00:22:19,319 --> 00:22:22,720 a state. Well, that's terrifying. Holy cow. This is the 389 00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:26,759 bare minimum taking kids from their parents because they miss 390 00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:31,480 pronoun their kid. Okay, this is the bare minimum, she says. 391 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,119 And the fact that we have to legislate for people 392 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,440 to not bully and misgender and dead name people because 393 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,319 of whatever insecurities they may have is sad to me. Wow, 394 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,240 there's a lot of projection packed in that statement. Holy cow. 395 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:52,759 We have to legislate for people to not bully. These 396 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:57,359 are parents, These are parents with their own kids. These 397 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:02,960 are not your kids. Frequently try to remind people who 398 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:09,039 are in careers in professions that deal with kids, and 399 00:23:09,079 --> 00:23:11,599 they I understand why you do it, like, oh my kids. 400 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:13,480 Like teachers do this all the time. They'll say like, oh, 401 00:23:13,519 --> 00:23:15,519 my kids in my class, right, And they'll say my kids, 402 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:19,480 but they're not your kids. They're not yours. And I 403 00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:23,000 understand that when you work around kids like you look 404 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,440 at them as if they're part of your family, you're 405 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,519 protective of them. I get all of that, but they're 406 00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:32,519 not your kids. After the school year, you don't deal 407 00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:36,000 with them anymore, right, Like they move on to another grade. 408 00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:39,160 There's somebody else's kids now. Parents don't get to do that. Well, 409 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,640 the good ones don't. I guess some bad ones probably 410 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,720 do so Number one. Number two regarding this idea that 411 00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:49,319 we have to legislate for people to not bully. Again, 412 00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:53,279 I do live in the real world here, and I 413 00:23:53,319 --> 00:23:56,359 feel like I need to say this, but parents can 414 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,759 do that too. Parents can believe their kids. I don't 415 00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:04,000 like it, but again, I kind of thought that was 416 00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:06,839 part of the deal. Like I never got sideways with 417 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,799 my dad because, like I figured, he probably just like 418 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,640 just pound me into the dirt, you know, like that's 419 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:18,440 a really good motivation. So yeah, I mean that's I 420 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,960 don't know. I'm not saying they should. I'm not saying 421 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,319 parents should bully their kids. However, what the kid may 422 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:31,000 think is bullying might not actually be bullying, and what 423 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,440 you lawmaker might think is bullying. In this sort of 424 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,839 fantastical idea of the you know, this broken family, probably 425 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,480 some trump voters right as the parents. Right. So you've 426 00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:46,079 got this idea, this image of a family conjured up 427 00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:47,440 in your mind, and you're going to go in and 428 00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:52,079 protect that bullied child, protect that child from being misgendered, 429 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,599 and then to attribute the motivation based on whatever insecurities 430 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,119 they may have. Yeah, that might not actually be based 431 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,480 on insecurities that they may have. It might actually be 432 00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:09,759 that they don't want their fourteen year old, you know, 433 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,640 to permanently disable their reproductive functions and never be able 434 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,599 to have any kind of sexual gratification for the rest 435 00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:18,359 of their life. That might be also a pretty good 436 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,720 explanation for why they would oppose going down that path. 437 00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:26,960 She says, why can't we just respect each other? As 438 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,160 she proposes a bill to take your kids? Who's not 439 00:25:31,319 --> 00:25:37,279 doing the respecting here, Representative Garcia, She's why can't we 440 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,400 just understand that someone else's identity has nothing to do 441 00:25:40,519 --> 00:25:46,559 with me or you? Ugh, it's just gross. This woman 442 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,440 is gross. The bill passed the committee on a straight 443 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,599 party vote, with Republicans in opposition. I believe this is 444 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,039 Jonathan Turley. I believe the Democrats are not just ignoring 445 00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:59,799 parental rights but political realities. They will find that this 446 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,240 is not a part is an issue. It is a 447 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:08,279 primal issue for parents. Democrat politicians like Garcia fail to 448 00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:11,759 understand that it has a lot to do with them. 449 00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:14,440 They are the parents of these kids. 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It's been that long, 479 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:12,799 and the Biden officials discussed the implications that the publicity 480 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,759 about the spy balloon would have on the relationship between 481 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,640 US and the try cooms. This is according to a 482 00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:26,960 story at foxnews dot Com reported by Diana Stancy based 483 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:32,680 on information from the new administration, US officials identified the 484 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,759 spy balloon infiltrating US airspace on January twenty eighth, twenty 485 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:43,079 twenty three. The Air Force shot down the s balloon 486 00:28:43,519 --> 00:28:47,720 off the coast of South Carolina on February fourth, right, 487 00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:53,960 So from the twenty eighth, twenty ninth, thirty thirty one, one, two, 488 00:28:54,039 --> 00:29:00,039 three four, So what eight days, eight miraculous days the 489 00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:06,640 balloon drifted across our country, creating wonderment and anger and 490 00:29:09,119 --> 00:29:11,599 what all went down in those eight days, because we 491 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,759 did all become aware of it on January twenty eighth, 492 00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:19,000 But the Biden folks did. They became aware of it 493 00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:24,359 on January twenty eighth, apparently, and they discussed with Beijing 494 00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:32,240 on February first, so three days after the balloon infiltrates 495 00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:37,440 and then Biden officials hold the talks with the Beijing 496 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,160 officials about the balloon, and they discussed the impact that 497 00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:44,240 disclosing the balloon to the public could have on the 498 00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:48,279 relationship with China. This is according to Internal State Department 499 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:54,039 documents the Internal The Internal State Department readout of the 500 00:29:54,079 --> 00:30:00,200 talks between Blincoln and a top Chinese diplomat say that 501 00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:04,160 the readout is like a transcript basically of what occurred, right, 502 00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:08,000 says Blinkin stated that if the presence of the balloon 503 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,039 were revealed publicly, it could have quote profound implications for 504 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:19,559 our relationship with China, particularly amid efforts to stabilize the 505 00:30:19,559 --> 00:30:25,599 bilateral relationship with the communists. I said, the communists, they said, 506 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,720 with Beijing in the story, So what is he doing? 507 00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:34,039 Blnken's sitting there telling China like like, we're aware this 508 00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:37,519 is here, we know this is bad. And if this 509 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,079 becomes public, like if people realize, holy smokes, look at 510 00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:45,319 the size of that freaking balloon drifting across our country, right, 511 00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:50,599 which is exactly what happened, Right, that's gonna put a 512 00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:53,880 crimp in our relationship. So it's probably best that you 513 00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:57,279 like get rid of that thing, I guess, right. The 514 00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:00,519 readout said that the incident could also have complicated Lincoln's 515 00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:04,119 travel plans to China, which were scheduled for February of 516 00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:07,279 twenty twenty three, if it didn't get quickly resolved somehow. 517 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:11,000 Blincoln did end up postponing that trip. He went in 518 00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:16,440 June twenty twenty three. A former Biden Former Biden Administration 519 00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:21,160 official told Fox News Digital that the State Department summoned 520 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,720 senior Chinese diplomat Ju Hakuan on February first so that 521 00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:31,359 the US could notify China to remove its balloon and 522 00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:34,960 issue a warning that the US could take action to 523 00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:41,759 eliminate the balloon. So think about that. They tell China, 524 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,319 take your balloon and get it out of here, and 525 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:51,599 in another world, in a parallel universe, let's think China says, 526 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,480 oh our bad haha, wow, so awkward, embarrassing. It's just 527 00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:56,599 a weather balloon. 528 00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 2: You know. 529 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,079 Speaker 1: And then they get rid of it. They steer it 530 00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:02,799 away or something, or I don't know, maybe they like 531 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,880 subcontract out somebody to shoot it down or whatever. They 532 00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:10,000 get rid of it, and so we never know. So 533 00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:14,440 we are never told that China has been sending spy 534 00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:18,279 balloons over our country. Guys. I kind of get the 535 00:32:18,279 --> 00:32:22,400 feeling like China's getting ready for something, do you. I 536 00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:27,480 kind of feel like that. Another senior State Department official 537 00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:31,680 also held private talks on February first with Chinese counterparts. 538 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,279 A readout from that second discussion says that the official 539 00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:38,799 claimed the longer it took to mitigate the issue would 540 00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:43,039 only increase the likelihood that news of this balloon would 541 00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:49,480 become public, and that would pose greater challenges managing the situation. Right, 542 00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:52,240 They wanted China to take this thing, get this thing 543 00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:56,359 out of here. You're going to get caught. People are 544 00:32:56,359 --> 00:33:02,279 going to see, rather than coming out and being like, hey, America, 545 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,839 China's got some balloon over us, Like instead of alerting, 546 00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:10,599 you know, the people who may be in danger from 547 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,680 this balloon, because I don't know what's in that balloon. Ultimately, 548 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,480 the Pentagon issued a statement on February second, claiming that 549 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:23,559 the US government had detected a high altitude surveillance balloon. 550 00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:29,480 While then White House Press Secretary Carine Jeanpierre told reporters 551 00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:32,880 that Biden received a briefing on the balloon on January thirty, first, 552 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,839 she did not provide details regarding why his administration did 553 00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:41,920 not issue a statement on the matter until two days later. So, 554 00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:46,880 after the meet up with the Chinese people about hey, 555 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,960 get your balloon out of our sky, and they're like, 556 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,440 this is going to be a bad pr thing, the 557 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,920 next day that the Pentagon issues a statement. Right, But 558 00:33:58,759 --> 00:34:06,799 that happened because some local reporter in Montana went eho 559 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,960 I had balloon up there that's pretty weird and did 560 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,199 a story on it, and that's how we all learned 561 00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:18,800 about this balloon drifting its way across the continent. At 562 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,800 the time, the Pentagon said that while the balloon was 563 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,880 not a military or physical threat, its presence in US 564 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,800 airspace did violate US sovereignty. The Pentagon also shut down 565 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,039 China's initial claims that the balloon was a weather balloon 566 00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:35,719 blown off course, and it called that false. It was 567 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,280 a chi Coom surveillance balloon, and there were at least 568 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,400 three other incidents of the same kind during the Trump 569 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:46,079 first administration. I'm sure there's nothing to worry about though. 570 00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:50,840 All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 571 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,920 so much for listening. I could not do the show 572 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,440 without your support and the support of the businesses that 573 00:34:55,519 --> 00:34:58,599 advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support 574 00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:00,320 them too and tell them you heard it here. 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