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It's two o'clock, and that means we talked to Ap Dylan. Hello, Ap,
how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm great? Pete how are you?
Speaker 1: I am great as well. Ap Dylan, by the way,
is a reporter for the North State Journal at sjonline
dot com, and she also publishes her substack newsletter. It's
called more to the Story. So I'm gonna actually pull
one from each for purposes of our discussion today. Let's
talk about parental rights. We did North Carolina did pass
a parent's Bill of rights? Did we not? I kind
of feel like we did that. Yeah, yes we did. Okay,
so this is what in addition to this is more
rights for parents.
Speaker 2: Well, this one, it delves a little bit more into
the curriculum and challenges over books and materials. There's been
a lot of protests in the last three or four
years about books that have obscene content or pornographic content
in them. Some of them were readily available in case
five schools, and I've seen some of the images and
they're not something that news media can actually put on
their website, but yet they can be found in K
twelve libraries, right.
Speaker 1: That to me has always been like that's a good
rule of thumb, you know, like if you want to
show the book at the public meeting, at the school
board public meeting, and you're not allowed to show the
images on screen during the school board meeting, that should
be the line. Then you probably shouldn't be showing that
to you know, fifth graders.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this legislation kind of centers on that. It has
a section in it would prohibit instruction on gender identity,
sexual activity, or sexuality in grades K through six because
human sexuality and health classes don't start until seventh grade,
and it would have required parental consent on an annual
basis for those topics in grades seven through twelve. It
also has a specific requirement for human growth and development
education for grades four and five to make it age
appropriate and content taught within single sex groups with parental consent.
That's already sort of happening, but this just reinforces that
there's a lot of stuff in there that's interesting to
They replace local board of education with governing body. What
that does. It's significant because it makes the scope of
these book review panels or committees that are established by
a school board would fall under that now, so it
wouldn't just be the district, it would be these small
governing bodies that get appointed to view these books.
Speaker 1: Is that up to the school districts? Do you know,
do do the do the boards of d decide whether
they want to appoint those types of bodies? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh yes. So in fact, Wait County Schools, the
biggest district in the state, has has a little committee
that they've got set up for that, and they put
in place a really problematic policy where if you challenge
a book, any any particular book, and the challenge fails,
no one can challenge that title again for two years.
So that's that's something that I think the parents in
Wake County have been looking at and saying, you know,
this isn't fair. Anyone should be able to challenge a
book at any time, so they they're looking at that
is restrictive to their to their rights as parents. And
the Bell also does a little thing that I think
is interesting. A lot of school districts when they have
a program or something that they want to they want
the kids to be involved, and normally parents have to
write in and opt out for these things, right so
you know, and if they don't react, or they don't
they don't send in an opt out, their kid has
automatically swept up in the program or whatever it is
they're doing at the school. This would sort of replace
that method and students wouldn't be able to participate without
prior written consent from the parent legal guardian. So it
goes from an opt out to an opt in. I
think that's important. Yeah, there have been some interesting things
that if I'm usually pretty up on my kids' education
and what's going on in their schools, and I see
those newsletters that come home, but sometimes buried in them
you'll find something you know that you you don't want
your kid to participate in. And unless you saw the
fine writing and you opted out in in a timely manner.
You're not gonna your kid's gonna get swept up in it.
I haven't had that problem with my kid that because
I've kept on top of it. But I know a
lot of parents that found out, you know, months later
that their kids took X class and they really didn't
want them to do that. So, you know, this opt
in opt out thing has been a sticky wicket for while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean especially for this kind of these
kinds of topics and material right, Like, it seems like
the safer route is to do an opt in, to
not make it the default setting. And this way people
don't want their kid going in and you know, learning
that they can have seveny genders, then they're not automatically
enrolled in that. And yeah, I failed to mention this
is house built five ninety five.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it has one more thing in there that's
interesting too. They they're upping the legal definitions, expanding the
definitions about disseminating materials harmful to minors. So that's going
to change how these these graphic sexual depictions and pervasive
language books are going to be handled in the classroom,
more handled by a district The language added would make
it offense to allow a minor to review a peruse
material that is harmful to minors. And basically that's an
extension of you know, broad statutes that cover obscenity or
public you know, public obscenity laws. So it'll be interesting
to see how this one plays out. It's been something
that's been pushed by for parents for a while and
where parents and we count even went to the extremes
of going to the Wake County sheriff and finding criminal
complaints over the books that they found because they were
deemed obscene and they met the level of obscenity for
state statutes that they you know, you couldn't display this
on the street or or in media, So why was
this available in the schools.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the sheriff got right on that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he basically he foul food them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So this is a response basically to I think you
called it roadblocks that parents have encountered in trying to
get certain books removed. And there's also an element that
affects the public libraries, not just in the schools, right,
but these are county public libraries as well, where parents
are going to be able to access their kids' library records.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, well yeah, this bill actually only really targets
the schools, and the parents would have access to their
child's library record, what they've taken out, what they've viewed,
what they've looked at. And I do believe that they
were considering a provision or them might have instituted it
in the latest version of the bill where they would
create like sort of a curated section where these materials
could could be, but you would have to have to
give your kids specific permission to go and take those out.
I think it's honestly a good compromise.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's kind of like the uh that back
room behind the curtain at the old Blockbusters stores, right exactly.
Speaker 2: I mean some of these books I've seen them, they're
they're pretty graphic. They're called gender Queer, and I mean
it's got full on sexual encounters, yeah, with images. It's
a graphic novel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a comic book quote unquote, but it's yeah,
it's a graphic graphic novel. It's it's cartoon drawings of
kids having sex. It's yeah, like I don't understand how
that's how that's not illegal. But you know, if I
guess if the left wants it, they want what they want.
And actually you mentioned gender queer in a piece, So
that's by the way, I was going off of the
North State Journal article that you've got there. It's at
NSJ online dot coming at all the details. Then that
ap breaks down on House Bill five ninety five, and
then there's your substack newsletter the more to the story
notes talking about what an executive order. I had not
heard this from Donald Trump that is targeting this same
sort of thing, and in fact, you mentioned gender Queer
in this post as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's that's the book that seems to be the
target at the most, because it really is.
Speaker 1: Graphic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, President Trump issued an executive order and
this was earlier this month, I believe, and in that
he's he talks about a section reducing the scope of
federal bureaucracy, and underneath there he talks about cutting services
and functions associated with certain organizations within the government, and
one of them is the Institute of Museum and Library Services.
And why that's important to the pornography book topic that
we're talking about here is that the Museum of Library
Services funds the American Library Association the ALA, and the
ALA is really the party responsible for these indecent and
pornographic books not only being allowed in schools, but protected
in K twelve schools. They've given them protected status and
there's been a slew of bills that have come along
in nearly every state where the ALA, along with the
A c l U and others, have filed lawsuits trying
to make sure that these books stay in libraries. The
ALA was also one of the leaders of the charge.
Every year they have their Banned bookd list, and number
one on that list for three years I believe is
ben gender queer. And these aren't Obviously, these aren't banned books.
You know, no one's banning books. They just don't want them.
Beautabule in K twelve Public Library. You can go buy it,
you can go elsewhere and get it, but we just
don't think they're appropriate for K twelve kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just curation, that's all it is. Yeah. I mean,
you curate the books just like you curate them in
the bookstores. Right, you separate them. Here are the cookbooks
and here are the self help books. You do this
all the time, and you can't stop every single book
ever written in every library, so obviously decisions get made
about what books should be on the shelves. This is
no different Yeah, and they're not banning the books just
because they chose different books.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The ALA has been very activist related.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they've gone.
Speaker 2: They're a Book of the Year award.
Speaker 1: Yeah they Oh.
Speaker 2: I mean you can tell what's going on there. But
you know, the libraries need to be a site of
socialist organizing was the big theme last in twenty twenty three,
YEP for the ALA, with their their former president or
executive officer there. She was only there for four or
five months before she got punted out after a lot
of her social media stuff came out talking about the
you know, the wonderful things that socialism and communism can
do and how we need to infuse that into our libraries.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when I would I would cover a couple
of those stories. When I was covering it, it's like
it's so crazy. People think it's not true, but it is,
like the like there, it's captured. The organization was captured
by literal communists and people who advanced Marxism and then
used their positions and these institutions that had built because
that's what communism does, so that Marxism does it. It hollows
out the institutions and then walks around in you know,
the skin suit of the of the deceased institution and
then demand that you pay respect to it based on
the institution's credibility that it had built up before you
hollowed it out, right, exactly.
Speaker 2: And a lot of these school boards use the alas
is their reasoning for keeping these books on the shelves. Right, So,
oh well, look, the LA says it's a great book,
says it's got five stars, you know. But meanwhile, you know,
the parents are like holding the stuff up in the
middle of the board, meaning he's yelling at them saying,
you know, is this something you'd want your child to
be reading?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. You can read more about that if
you subscribe, and you can do that for free. Get
her newsletters sent to you as well. AP Dylan dot
substack dot com. It's called more to the Story and
reader work at North State Journal. AP always go to
chat with you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Great, Thanks Pete.
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while North Carolina is looking to strengthen parental rights, you
could go the other direction, and Colorado is showing us
that way for us the yeah, Colorado. This is according
to Jonathan Turley at his website Jonathan Turley dot org,
that Colorado is poised to pass a law that would
threaten the custody rights of parents who dead name they're kids.
Do you know what dead naming is. It's when you
add the word dead after your kid's name. So I
would be Pete dead. I'm just kidding, That's not what
it means. Dead naming is when you call your child
the name you gave him or her after that child says,
I don't identify as that gender any longer. I want
to be called something else now. I don't know, by
the way, if this sort of course of action is
available to you, if, for example, you just don't like
your name, Like, you're not gender confused or anything like that.
You're not asking to be transd but you just don't
like your name and you want a cool name instead
of the dome name that mom and dad gave me, Right,
So can you just be like, I no longer identify
as Pete I am now, I don't know Max Power. Yeah,
I like that's a strong sounding name, Max Power. Right,
that's my name now. And so if my mom and
dad were to call me Pete, then I could maybe
accuse them of dead naming me, right, because I know
I'm not identifying as Pete anymore. I don't know if
that option is available. I'm not sure if you have
to go through like the therapy and the hormones and
maybe some surgeries or something in order to get the
dead name option to go, you know, to punish your
parents with. But oh, it's not just dead naming either,
it's also misgendering. So if you mess up on a pronoun,
that's your ass, the your kid, Sorry, that's your kid,
they're gonna take your kid, your own kid. See this
is where this always leads. I used to joke with
a school board member about how to make sure that
all kids have the exact same opportunity to get a
great education, because they were always, you know, trying to
figure out the best way to you know, to normalize
that and close any gaps and everything else. And I said, well,
there is a way, you know, if you just take
all of the kids and you know, put them in
like an orphanage, and then everybody has that exact same background,
that upbringing, and then everybody is equal. And then oh yeah,
we can't do that. Well why not, isn't it for
the kids? I thought my logic was unassailable. All right,
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So Colorado looking to go full crazy and pass a
law that says if a parent does not adopt a
child's new pronouns or their new name, they could be
found to have exercised coercive control, which is what school
exercise really all the time if you think about it.
But coercive control, and that means they would lose custody
in a divorce proceeding to a parent who's more enlightened.
I'm sure this won't be abused at all by parents
that are going through a divorce and hate each other
and are using their kids to hurt the other, or
kids who are struggling with their parents getting divorced and
so in an attempt to gain attention, gain the love
of a parent or something, or try to, you know,
in their own way of thinking, like they're going to
fix this or whatever, and so they're going to now
pursue this, Like this is coercive control. Isn't that parenting? Actually,
isn't that? Like, Look, I don't have kids, but my
assessment from AFAR is that basically everything you do as
a parent is coercive control. I mean, especially at the
younger ages. I mean you're just picking them up, right,
you just pick them up, they just move them around.
I mean acts like kidnapping basically, right, you prevent them
from leaving certain spaces like their playpen or whatever. Kidnapping.
That seems like coercive control. I'm no lawyer, and I'm
no Colorado gov Co lawmaker, but it does kind of
seem like This is the parent's lean, you know, like
they they have a lot of rights to exert the
coercive control over their kids. Tell them when to go
to bed, when to wake up, when to eat, what
to eat? Right, they tell them all sorts of stuff.
Get off your phone. My goodness, I'm just getting a
few parents do that anymore. But under the new proposal,
make dead naming and making dead naming and misgendering children
a factor in child custody disputes. So if you refer
to your child's biological gender or given name or pronoun
would now be considered harmful and abusive, inviting a court
to take your child away from you as a quote
coercive parent. Again. This is a piece by Jonathan Turley,
a constitutional law expert. He says parents may believe that
a young child should proceed slowly and not make such
changes as they consider the implications of those decisions. If
you are one of those parents that maybe thinking, at
some point, you know what, I think, I would pump
the brakes a little on, you know, this pathway towards
the irreversible hormone treatments and stuff and the surgeries and
all that, Like I would want to slow that down
and make sure the kid really understands, maybe after you
know their brain has fully developed. If you think you
might be that parent, you need to get the hell
out of Colorado. Representative Lorena Garcia said, quote, this bill
is the bare minimum of what we can do as
a state. Well, that's terrifying. Holy cow. This is the
bare minimum taking kids from their parents because they miss
pronoun their kid. Okay, this is the bare minimum, she says.
And the fact that we have to legislate for people
to not bully and misgender and dead name people because
of whatever insecurities they may have is sad to me. Wow,
there's a lot of projection packed in that statement. Holy cow.
We have to legislate for people to not bully. These
are parents, These are parents with their own kids. These
are not your kids. Frequently try to remind people who
are in careers in professions that deal with kids, and
they I understand why you do it, like, oh my kids.
Like teachers do this all the time. They'll say like, oh,
my kids in my class, right, And they'll say my kids,
but they're not your kids. They're not yours. And I
understand that when you work around kids like you look
at them as if they're part of your family, you're
protective of them. I get all of that, but they're
not your kids. After the school year, you don't deal
with them anymore, right, Like they move on to another grade.
There's somebody else's kids now. Parents don't get to do that. Well,
the good ones don't. I guess some bad ones probably
do so Number one. Number two regarding this idea that
we have to legislate for people to not bully. Again,
I do live in the real world here, and I
feel like I need to say this, but parents can
do that too. Parents can believe their kids. I don't
like it, but again, I kind of thought that was
part of the deal. Like I never got sideways with
my dad because, like I figured, he probably just like
just pound me into the dirt, you know, like that's
a really good motivation. So yeah, I mean that's I
don't know. I'm not saying they should. I'm not saying
parents should bully their kids. However, what the kid may
think is bullying might not actually be bullying, and what
you lawmaker might think is bullying. In this sort of
fantastical idea of the you know, this broken family, probably
some trump voters right as the parents. Right. So you've
got this idea, this image of a family conjured up
in your mind, and you're going to go in and
protect that bullied child, protect that child from being misgendered,
and then to attribute the motivation based on whatever insecurities
they may have. Yeah, that might not actually be based
on insecurities that they may have. It might actually be
that they don't want their fourteen year old, you know,
to permanently disable their reproductive functions and never be able
to have any kind of sexual gratification for the rest
of their life. That might be also a pretty good
explanation for why they would oppose going down that path.
She says, why can't we just respect each other? As
she proposes a bill to take your kids? Who's not
doing the respecting here, Representative Garcia, She's why can't we
just understand that someone else's identity has nothing to do
with me or you? Ugh, it's just gross. This woman
is gross. The bill passed the committee on a straight
party vote, with Republicans in opposition. I believe this is
Jonathan Turley. I believe the Democrats are not just ignoring
parental rights but political realities. They will find that this
is not a part is an issue. It is a
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understand that it has a lot to do with them.
They are the parents of these kids. If Democrats do
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that thing, the spalloon, the spy balloon. Good times, Oh,
good times. Well we got some details about the whole
spalloon gate. Biden Administration State Department officials held private talks
with Beijing counterparts about the Chinese spy balloon that they
did US airspace in twenty twenty three. It's been that long,
and the Biden officials discussed the implications that the publicity
about the spy balloon would have on the relationship between
US and the try cooms. This is according to a
story at foxnews dot Com reported by Diana Stancy based
on information from the new administration, US officials identified the
spy balloon infiltrating US airspace on January twenty eighth, twenty
twenty three. The Air Force shot down the s balloon
off the coast of South Carolina on February fourth, right,
So from the twenty eighth, twenty ninth, thirty thirty one, one, two,
three four, So what eight days, eight miraculous days the
balloon drifted across our country, creating wonderment and anger and
what all went down in those eight days, because we
did all become aware of it on January twenty eighth,
But the Biden folks did. They became aware of it
on January twenty eighth, apparently, and they discussed with Beijing
on February first, so three days after the balloon infiltrates
and then Biden officials hold the talks with the Beijing
officials about the balloon, and they discussed the impact that
disclosing the balloon to the public could have on the
relationship with China. This is according to Internal State Department
documents the Internal The Internal State Department readout of the
talks between Blincoln and a top Chinese diplomat say that
the readout is like a transcript basically of what occurred, right,
says Blinkin stated that if the presence of the balloon
were revealed publicly, it could have quote profound implications for
our relationship with China, particularly amid efforts to stabilize the
bilateral relationship with the communists. I said, the communists, they said,
with Beijing in the story, So what is he doing?
Blnken's sitting there telling China like like, we're aware this
is here, we know this is bad. And if this
becomes public, like if people realize, holy smokes, look at
the size of that freaking balloon drifting across our country, right,
which is exactly what happened, Right, that's gonna put a
crimp in our relationship. So it's probably best that you
like get rid of that thing, I guess, right. The
readout said that the incident could also have complicated Lincoln's
travel plans to China, which were scheduled for February of
twenty twenty three, if it didn't get quickly resolved somehow.
Blincoln did end up postponing that trip. He went in
June twenty twenty three. A former Biden Former Biden Administration
official told Fox News Digital that the State Department summoned
senior Chinese diplomat Ju Hakuan on February first so that
the US could notify China to remove its balloon and
issue a warning that the US could take action to
eliminate the balloon. So think about that. They tell China,
take your balloon and get it out of here, and
in another world, in a parallel universe, let's think China says,
oh our bad haha, wow, so awkward, embarrassing. It's just
a weather balloon.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: And then they get rid of it. They steer it
away or something, or I don't know, maybe they like
subcontract out somebody to shoot it down or whatever. They
get rid of it, and so we never know. So
we are never told that China has been sending spy
balloons over our country. Guys. I kind of get the
feeling like China's getting ready for something, do you. I
kind of feel like that. Another senior State Department official
also held private talks on February first with Chinese counterparts.
A readout from that second discussion says that the official
claimed the longer it took to mitigate the issue would
only increase the likelihood that news of this balloon would
become public, and that would pose greater challenges managing the situation. Right,
They wanted China to take this thing, get this thing
out of here. You're going to get caught. People are
going to see, rather than coming out and being like, hey, America,
China's got some balloon over us, Like instead of alerting,
you know, the people who may be in danger from
this balloon, because I don't know what's in that balloon. Ultimately,
the Pentagon issued a statement on February second, claiming that
the US government had detected a high altitude surveillance balloon.
While then White House Press Secretary Carine Jeanpierre told reporters
that Biden received a briefing on the balloon on January thirty, first,
she did not provide details regarding why his administration did
not issue a statement on the matter until two days later. So,
after the meet up with the Chinese people about hey,
get your balloon out of our sky, and they're like,
this is going to be a bad pr thing, the
next day that the Pentagon issues a statement. Right, But
that happened because some local reporter in Montana went eho
I had balloon up there that's pretty weird and did
a story on it, and that's how we all learned
about this balloon drifting its way across the continent. At
the time, the Pentagon said that while the balloon was
not a military or physical threat, its presence in US
airspace did violate US sovereignty. The Pentagon also shut down
China's initial claims that the balloon was a weather balloon
blown off course, and it called that false. It was
a chi Coom surveillance balloon, and there were at least
three other incidents of the same kind during the Trump
first administration. I'm sure there's nothing to worry about though.
All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you
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