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Another day, another outrage among the lefties. They are very
very mad. They're outraged that President Donald Trump has directed
the Justice Department to eliminate laws and regulations that hinder
cities ability to remove homeless people sleeping on the street. Okay,
so the Department of Justice, the federal government is not
saying we're going to send in people, We're going to
send in troops, We're going to round up homeless people
like that. That's not what the order says. It says
we're going to remove barriers that cities and counties and
states are facing, so if they want to, they can
pursue alternative ways of dealing with the homelessness crisis. The
administration says the move is necessary to crack down on
crime and drug use. This is a piece at the
Washington Times by Jeff Mordoch. Under the executive order, Attorney
General Pambondi will take steps to quote, reverse judicial precedents
and consent decrees that limit local and state governments from
removing homeless people from the streets and help move them
into treatment centers. Oh how dare she? Were you trying
to get people treatment?
Speaker 2: The order?
Speaker 1: By the way, could we brand this maybe as healthcare?
Maybe we brand it as healthcare free healthcare. Maybe we
do that and then the Democrats will be on board
with it. What do you think? Because they are anything
you just label anything healthcare and they're they're in, you know,
whether it's you know, aborting babies, it's like God's healthcare.
So how about this, It's like, hey, we're gonna get
them into treatment. We're going to get them health care.
We're going to get health care for the homeless. The
order also commits federal funding to help move people on
the streets into treatment centers, though it was not immediately
clear how much money is being allocated. Shifting homeless individuals
into long term institutional settings for humane treatment through the
appropriate use of civil commitment will restore public order, according
to the directive. Okay, so civil commitment, what does that mean?
That means if you are adjudicated to be a danger
to yourself or to the community, to society around you,
to other people, that they can put you into a facility,
even against your will. And so this has got the
you know, civil libertarians, it's got Democrats very upset. Although
to be fair, really anything Trump does on this front
is going to get them mad. But here's the other thing.
This homelessness issue, or I think they're now using a
term called those living unhousedly or something like that, they've
come up with different nomenclature because, of course you can't
just call it homelessness, because it's not that they don't
have a home. Their home is their tent and their
community and blah blah blah blah blah. Right, so now
it's like those experiencing temporary unhousedness or something. There is
an entire cottage industry of NGOs, of nonprofit organizations that
feast off of government funding for their programs, and so
they have an incentive to not solve the problem because
if they were to solve the problem or to ameliorate
the problem to such an extent that their services are
no longer required or are no longer required to the
extent that they are providing them, means means that they
go out of business or they have to lay off
people that sometimes make up pretty good living serving people
who don't make a living. Right, So this has got
them very upset. The directive from Trump also says surrendering
our cities and citizens to disorder and fear is neither
compassionate to the homeless nor other citizens.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: See, this is what gets lost in the entire debate
about the homelessness crisis. The open air drug markets. The
criminality that is bred around these large encampments is that
the other people who are living in this society and
they're playing by the rules. They're not living on the
streets right, They're not abusing other people. They're trying to
just live their lives. They are victimized and they are
paying for all of this. What about them? Don't they
get to have their wishes catered to, like the NGO's
wishes are catered to, or like the unhoused wishes are
are catered to. He goes on to say, my administration
will take a new approach focused on protecting public safety.
I've talked about this in many different ways over the years,
which is this thin line between chaos and order. We
live in a high trust society, although that is fraying
once you abandon that level of trust. Or people don't
wish to put their trust in their government because it's
not fulfilling their side of the bargain, the bargain being
the social compact. I will yield to you, Gov Co.
I will give to you some liberty, and I will
yield to you some of my treasure. I will let
you tax me, I will let you tell me what
I can and cannot do. And I understand that by
giving this up, we all are then enjoying a level
of security and protection so we can engage in free
activity and commerce. And if you govc fail, if you
fail in your duty in your end of the bargain,
then you no longer have the legitimacy because the compact
is now nullified. Trump also directed Bondy to work with
the Department of Health and Human Services, the Department of
Housing and Urban Development, and the Department of Transportation to
prioritize federal grants for states and cities that quote enforce
prohibitions on open illicit drug use, urban camping, and loitering.
What does that mean? Means they're going to direct federal
funds to locations that are actually trying to crack down
on this behavior, the ones that are trying to protect
the high trust, open society that the vast majority of
people yielded their tax money and some liberty to participate in.
He's going to put the emphasis of the federal funding
to those governmental entities that are fulfilling their end of
the bargain. In other words, the order requires any discretionary
grants for substance use, prevention, treatment, and recovery do not
go toward funding drug injection sites or illicit drug use.
It also aims to ban sex offenders who receive homelessness
assistance from being housed with children. Donald Trump, that monster.
Does it want homeless people who are sex offenders to
be housed in shelters with kids? Please, Democrats, please oppose
him on this. Please let this be another one of
those eighty twenty issues where you side with the position
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more transparent. This executive order from the Trump administration to
the Justice Department to eliminate laws and regulations that prevent
cities from removing homeless people sleeping on their streets, and
also to try to crack down on crime and drug use.
I did see this hang on. Speaking of the crime,
people are celebrating that Baltimore. Violent crime in Baltimore has
plummeted to historic lows. How did that happen? John McCormick,
who is a senior editor at The Dispatch. He says,
I interviewed Baltimore's top prosecutor who defeated the progressive DA
Marilyn Moseby. Remember that woman back in twenty twenty two.
So the top prosecutor asked the prosecutor why the number
of murders hit a fifty year low in the city,
a fifty year low. You know what he said, Now,
this is in Baltimore. This is no right winger, that's
a prosecutor right. Jailing people on felony gun charges seems
far more important than woke policies and life coaches. Oh
that's not a direct quote from him, but that's what
the prosecutor said, was that you jail the people who
have the felony gun charges, especially if they're a criminal
with gun possession charges, because they're a prohibited possessor. Like
the cohort of people that we're talking about are known, right,
These are repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat offenders. It's the same thing.
It's the same thing with with the rash of car burglaries.
My neighborhood just suffered another one. People are all you
know on the Facebook group talking about the latest hit
where some young guy, I'm not sure. I think he
may have been the guy that the Gaston police picked up.
Guy at a rap sheet of like two dozen burglaries.
And the point here, though, is that he's under the
age of eighteen, and they know that they can keep
doing this because there's no punishment. So you have adults
that hire kids, drop them off into neighborhoods. The kids
roll through the neighborhood, popping locks on the door handles
on all of the cars in the driveways. People who
don't lock their cars, they get their cars rummaged through
and things stolen from their vehicles. If you're in a
boding community, I think they just hit somebody or some
community up in like Mountain Island, Lake or Lake Norman
or something. They Oh, I think it was a drift.
The restaurant. Right outside of the restaurant, there's a bunch
of boat slips there. I think they hit those. And
so these juveniles go in, they steal a bunch of stuff,
They bring it back to the waiting car driven by
the adult, and the adults then pawn them off, they
sell them, and they pay the kids out because the
adult knows that if they were to do the crimes,
they would go to jail. If the juveniles do the crimes,
they don't, and they can do them over and over
and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over again, and they just
get released back to their guardians or their parents, who
obviously have failed in a pretty significant way. But we
don't want to incarceerate a child at the tender age
of sixteen or seventeen, when they've engaged in dozens of burglaries.
We got to rehabilitate them. But we're not. That's the
thing is, we're not rehabilitating them. Are we doesn't seem
like it. It just seems like we're sending a message
that you can keep doing this and when you turn
eighteen records clear, you're fine. All that stuff doesn't matter.
I guess these are decisions, and they these kinds of
ills will persist to the degree that they persist until
people decide they don't want them to persist anymore. Like this,
this is a choice. It's not inevitable. It's a choice.
It's a choice people make when they pull the lever
at the voting stations, or fill in the bubble sheets
or whatever, or press the touchpad. Like these are choices.
You elect dumbasses into office, you get dumb assory. This
is all over the country. Trump's order comes after the
Supreme Court ruled last month that people without homes it's
not homeless. People without homes can be arrested and fined
for sleeping in public spaces. In a six to three decision,
the court's conservative justices upheld a ban that was in
Grant's Past, Oregon because, by the way, what was occurring,
I imagine it still is, you've got certain jurisdictions that
will load up their homeless population and bust them to
some other place, some small town on the outskirts of
the county or something. They send them somewhere else because
they don't want to pay for it. They can't pay
for it anymore, so then they send them someplace else.
So you're forcing the law abiding taxpayers to keep funding
these systems that obviously do not work. Meanwhile, they have
to live in a constantly degraded and eroding quality of
of life in their downtowns. This was the Grant's Pass,
Oregon case that prohibits homeless residents from sleeping outdoors. That
was a city ordinance that they did. Homeless residents of
Grant's Pass face fine starting at two hundred and fifty
dollars and jail time for repeat offenses. What was most
amazing was that some homeless people sued somehow or another,
they were able to get legal representation. They and they
went all the way to the US Supreme Court on
it and they lost. But right now, there are more
than seven hundred and seventy one thousand homeless in the US,
so three quarters of a million people. That's according to
an annual count by the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
It was the highest total ever recorded, and it represents
an eighteen percent increase from the prior year. Trump also
signed an executive order directing the National Park Service to
we are all homeless encampments on federal land. Yeah, have
you been? Have you ever been or seen a homeless encampment,
particularly those that are on like public parkland. They're filthy, obviously,
they're living out in the woods.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's a very difficult existence. This isn't to say I
have no empathy for the people that are in those conditions,
but there are a whole host of reasons why people
end up there. Yes, drug addiction, yeah, people fell on
hard times. Yes, But also there are people, a lot
of them suffer mental health problems, and there are some
that actually just choose to live that lifestyle for the freedom.
There are countless YouTube interviews and documentaries where people go
to these encampments in various places and they interview the
people that live there and you will hear their stories,
and some of them are like, dude, I make money
being here, Like out in California. They get paid and
it doesn't make sense for them to go to work
because they can just keep living the life that they're living, yes,
with its trials and troubles and such, but they get stipends.
They know the system, they know where to go to
get food and shelter if they need shelter, and they
know where to get you know, the free medical care,
and then they get stipends to pay for whatever addictions
that they are are suffering with. That's not humane. That's
not a humane system to allow people to continue living
out on the streets, under bridges and in the woods.
So yeah, something different has to be done because whatever
the Left has convinced so many of these governments to
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regarding the unhoused, I prefer the term uh that was
used by the great neil Boards urban outdoorsmen. That's a
great term, true uh neil Boards is great. Loved listening
to neil Boards. We used to carry him back in
the day. This is from Jane H speaking of homeless
Like the man I saw sleeping passed out or maybe
dead on the sidewalk on Woodlawn Road near the KFC
last week midday, pants down around his naked butt is
right there for everybody to see. Is this what democrats want?
It's what they tolerate, and it's what voters tolerate, obviously,
And people drive by and you know, maybe feel bad
for the person and wonder what happened that they would
end up there, and then that's it. And here's the
other thing too, Like you've got people that are you know,
flying signs, they say, which is at all of the intersections,
all of the off ramps and stuff with the signs
asking for money and all of that stuff I've talked
about this before in the past. Have you ever noticed
that there's never there are never two people or three
people at the same spot. I mean, yeah, they would
be at maybe the same intersection, but they're at different ramps, right,
And do they just kind of sort that out themselves
or wouldn't somebody like coming to like, hey, this is
my corner. You don't get to use my corner, this
is my spot. I'm here, right. How come there are
never any fights around these locations. M people control those corners.
There are people that manage that through violence, and so
that's why you get people that like, Okay, I'm allowed
to be there during this time and then I have
to leave. And by the way, I remember there was
a news story done years ago in Charlotte. I believe
it was at this very intersection Woodlawn and I seventy seven,
which has always been sort of a hot spot for
this kind of stuff. But that intersection, there was a
guy who used to fly a sign and some local
TV station like followed him after he was done, and
he walked off and got in a like a big
extended cab pickup truck and they went up and got
an interview with him, and he said he makes I
forget what the number was, but it was it was
like a good salary. Basically he was pulling in forty k.
Let's say, all tax free, working a few hours a day,
making a good living like this. So and they know
if they've got a dog, they get paid more. They
got some kids, they get paid more. Right with the
language on the sign says gets them paid more. This
is not a humane way to address this problem. Letting
people live like this is not humane. There is a
proposal that was moving through the legislature this year, also
in this session. Right now, it's been referred to the
Senate Rules Committee, which is basically where legislation goes to die.
If the leadership doesn't want to move it, it's not
going to move. But it got sent to rules back
in May. It came out of the House and it
would put new regulations and limitations on how, where, and
for how long homeless camps would be allowed. Shelters often
don't have enough room, according to the piece by Laura
Leslie and Mark Bergen at WRAL, and some homeless people
choose to camp outdoors anyway credit where it's due. WRAL
acknowledging that some people do choose to camp outside. Why
Because the shelters usually require that you not be high
or drunk or do drugs or drink while you're on
the premises, and some people choose not to live under
those burdensome onerous conditions. But some residents and businesses near
the homeless camp say that they generate trash and unsanitary conditions.
That's true, they do. They harm property values, and they
drive customers away. House Bill seven eighty one, sponsored by
Representative Brian Biggs from Randolph. Big said local governments don't
know what to do. It's unsanitary. Does this bill criminalize homelessness, No,
he says, it addresses the use of public property for
camping and sleeping without prohibiting homelessness itself. Seven eighty one
would give local governments authority to designate a publicly owned
outdoor space to be used for camping and sleeping, but
only if local indoor shelters do not have sufficient space
to meet demand, and only for one year at a time,
with the approval of state and local health officials. The
site could not be close to residentially zoned areas and
could not adversely affect commercial property or schools. The local
government would have to provide security, it would have to
supply toilets, it would have to supply running water for
sanitation purposes. There is a reason why these laws came
into existence. This is how like the plague spreads people. Right,
all of you lefties that were like wear the masks,
stand six feet apart. You're literally killing grandma. Like that
same reason that you're relying on to make those arguments
is the reason why there were sanitation codes. That's why
you don't get just to poop in the streets, how
you spread disease. It would also the local governments would
also have to offer access to behavioral health services and
enforce a ban on the use of alcohol or drugs.
So this would be the criteria for if you want
to have an open air homeless encampment someplace, If your
local government and you want a virtue signal that you
care more about people than everybody else, and you want
to let people camp on this public property, you can
do so. But here are the rules. You don't get
to let people live in their own filth. You don't
get to let it turn into an open air drug market.
Pretty simple. Otherwise you don't follow the criteria local governments
would be banned from allowing unauthorized camping or sleeping at
any location. Any resident or business owner in the locality
could go to court to force their local government to
take action to disperse any other encampments. The bill would
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just says mayor on the call screen here, Mayor, is
that your name?
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, okay, Well, Mayor Grave from TK, South Carolina. Pete,
how you doing today?
Speaker 1: I'm all right, so do I hope you don't mind,
but I have to vet you just to make sure
you actually are Mayor Gray from Tiga K. So who's
your mayor pro tem? Who's your mayor pro tem?
Speaker 2: Well, at first when I was elected, my mayor pro
temp was Tom Heislip. Now my mayor pro temp is
Carmen Miller.
Speaker 1: Okay, he passes. All right, I believe you're the mayor
of Tika k all right. Nobody would know those names
except the mayor of Tika k Okay. So yeah, so
what's up? What's going on?
Speaker 2: Well? I was, I was listening to you as I
do every day. Thank you for what you do, Pete.
You put on a for Riffy shows a lot of information,
so great job. With the with the homeless encampments and
the homeless problem that we have around the city of
tu Kay adopted an ordnance that for hibbits homeless encampments
as such in our city limits. Uh. So just wanted
to throw it out there. If anyone from any of
our local cities or or anyone from council or other
folks having this problem, just give me a call. You
can look me up, Google me. But we have an
ordinance already on our books that we've approved that prohibits that.
And it's just we were having a little bit of
an issue.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And with that, we like to be proactive on everything
that we do in the city, and we made it
to where you cannot do that in our city and
that that would be you will be subject to arrest
and removal.
Speaker 1: How long ago did you do that?
Speaker 2: Uh? What was that last year?
Speaker 1: Okay? As has anybody like threatened litigation or court challenges?
Speaker 2: No? No, Basically, we just want to keep our city beautiful,
We want to keep it safe, uh, and we want
to keep it to wear our businesinesses and our residents
can can go and and and do as they please,
uh and not be inhibited by a bunch of trash
and a bunch of stuff that we don't need there.
Uh you know. I we pride ourselves in t K
of being the save the city in South Carolina. We
pride ourselves on being a clean city and a city
that we take care of each other. Uh. In that
if we do have some folks that that that are
you know, are homeless and and they're not able to
to to have a place to live, we try to
work with those folks as well. And like to give
a shout out to the folks down at pilgrims In
and in rock Hill. They do a great job with
those folks. So if if anyone is looking, are in
need of a of a place to stay, and you
know the great folks down at Pilgrim's In they do
a great job. They also have some some work programs
and everything as well to help folks get back on
their feet. The Family Promise of York County also does
that as well. So just wanted to give an, you know,
just a little shout out to those folks. If you
find yourself in those needs then that would in need
of some help, you know, best thing to reach out
to your local church. Those folks can can point you
in the right direction, they can give you the help,
and they can pray for you, which is a big thing.
If you need any help, really you need to have
the Good Lord for it and he'll provide. So just
wanted to get that out to everybody information and stuff.
If some of the local municipalities need that information. It's
on our website. You can go and look that order.
It's up. No problems, but it's worked well for us
and with those folks that we do find in need,
we do help those folks to get to where they
need to go to fine help and working with Amy
and other folks around York County. So just encourage everybody
to reach out to the resources that you have around
you well.
Speaker 1: And it was one of the things. One of my
first jobs I ever had was at my local church.
I was like fifteen years old. I was answering phones
and stuff in the rectory after hours and stuff, and
people would come up and seek money from the church.
And I heard all sorts of stories from people that
were trying to get me, this fifteen year old kid
working the phones, you know, to give them checks. And
I was like, I can't do that, I said, But
I can call down one of the priests and they
can talk to you. And what the priests had and
what the church had done was they had partnered with,
you know, local shelter. They had a deli down the
road that they would give vouchers to so they could
go get food. And I was amazed. Is where I
first learned in these first interactions that so many of
the people that came in, they were asking for the money.
When given the opportunity for the services and for the
food that they claimed they need the money for, they
refused to take the vouchers. They refused to go to
the shelter. They didn't want that. They just wanted the
money and they didn't want those services.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, those folks are out there. It's unfortunate that
day they would rather, you know, have a hand out.
I'm one of those guys teaching man to fish. Yeah,
so you know, I just want to encourage everybody to
reach out to you to your local churches, reach out
to your local folks, and and if you want help,
it's out there. You just need to reach out to
folks that can put you in touch with folks that
can help you. There's a lot of programs that we
have to help folks that are had had a hard time.
And I remind all of my folks too. Hey, folks,
you know what, by the grace of God, we're able
to to park ourselves underneath the rooms. We're able to
be safe, and we're able to do what we do
every day. There's folks out there that there one pay
check away from being being out of their homes or
out of their car.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, but would in that keep your head up,
keep going. Uh. Things get better, But do reach out
and do and and do seek that help. It's out
there for you if you need it and you want it.
Another thing for our veterans, you know, we've got our
Veterans Association as well. You know, veterans, if you're within
the sign of my voice and you need help, you
can reach out to our Veterans Association. We are there
to help any veteran that is in need. Uh. And
we've got programs throughout the federal government has programs throughout
the nation to help those folks. And especially when you're
a veteran, you don't need to be sleeping on the street.
You need to be taken care of. And there are
programs out there and help that you can get to
help you out with anything that you need. So yeah,
you know, I find it very very disappointing to me
that we're taking care of of everybody else but our veterans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I hear you. Uh, Mayor, I appreciate
the call. Thanks for thanks for joining. Yes, sir, all right,
take care of all right. So that's the mayor of
t Chris Gray. This is Tara. Hello, Tara, welcome to
the show.
Speaker 3: Hey Pete. So, when my kids were in high school
in Myers Park, one of the guys that was doing
like an eagle scout something whatever, but he observed and interviewed.
You know, the guys that are on Billy Graham coming
off from the airport and then thereby that Marshals and
there's there's like eight off them. One lady sits there
with her diapers on in a wheelchair. YadA yah. They
parked their van at that Marriott courtyard and they all
got together, said we'd interview them, and he said the
same thing, why should we work. They lived in a
house together, eight of them on Lake Norman, Nice and
I think somebody took it to the news one day
he said, why should we work, why should we pete
pay the government when this has happening. So what that
guy said, who I want him to run for a
governor of North Carolina please, is if you want the help,
it is there. Yeah, everywhere you turned there was work.
If you decide you don't want it, even veterans, and
I have veterans in my family and they're not homeless.
The help is there, but you have to want it.
With anything. It is there so much. I live in
a place where they feed them three times a day
and I still see needles, I see people dead. I
see it's horrific, but it's you know.
Speaker 1: It's not humane or whatever. Yeah, no, it's not humane.
The allowing people to live like that is not a
humane response.
Speaker 3: So absolutely I had to teach my children that because
he's like, let's give him cigarettes, let's give them food,
and then he got spin on from giving a guy
some crackers one day.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've had my wife and I have had my
wife will like she works in uptown Charlotte and terror,
I appreciate the call, but as she works in uptown
and she's given people food, but like she's coming home
from lunch she didn't need her whole lunch, and they're like, hey,
do you have any money. She's like, well you can
have this food, and like she's been rejected, like I
don't want that. I'm not gonna eat that. Like okay,
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