WEBVTT

1
00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome the Deep Blue Sea the podcast. I

2
00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:20.760
<v Speaker 1>am Mark Underwater Ghost, Cello Hoffmeier and.

3
00:00:20.679 --> 00:00:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I am Jay sandwich Bag Sweat Cluet. Welcome you board

4
00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:26.079
<v Speaker 2>DeepC the Podcast. On this show, it.

5
00:00:26.120 --> 00:00:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Never blows away, That never blows away.

6
00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Not anchored by anything, never blows away and why should it?

7
00:00:32.479 --> 00:00:34.719
<v Speaker 2>This is Deep the Podcast. On this show, We've been

8
00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:36.640
<v Speaker 2>to the entire Deep Sea trilogy. Seen my scene. We

9
00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:38.960
<v Speaker 2>do it again, but not today. Today we're looking at

10
00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:42.640
<v Speaker 2>We're abandoning our year of reptiles once again for a

11
00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:45.159
<v Speaker 2>new release. A new film, not a shock film, a

12
00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:50.000
<v Speaker 2>killer whale film called Killer Whale? What is Killer Whale?

13
00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:53.159
<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty six film directed by joe Ane Breckins, starring

14
00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Virginia Gardner and mel Johnson as a couple of estranged

15
00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:05.760
<v Speaker 2>BFFs who who go on holiday vacation to Thailand where

16
00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:11.319
<v Speaker 2>there's a Orca World World of Orca with a killer

17
00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:15.920
<v Speaker 2>whale seed who it's just it's just eating too many people.

18
00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:17.200
<v Speaker 2>It's just eating too many people.

19
00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:22.079
<v Speaker 1>They've had enough of it, and trainers, trainers, everybody.

20
00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Trainers who have never mentioned again. And it gets released

21
00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:29.680
<v Speaker 2>at the same time as Maddie and Trish are out

22
00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:33.760
<v Speaker 2>on a random jet ski in this cursed beach. It's

23
00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:37.120
<v Speaker 2>cursed at all in the middle of nowhere and hilarity.

24
00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:41.280
<v Speaker 2>It's used when it turns out the seed may believe

25
00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:45.640
<v Speaker 2>that she is still in captivity because she's in the

26
00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:49.480
<v Speaker 2>middle of this at all.

27
00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Takes out, takes out of sea.

28
00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Do what's the jet ski? This is just.

29
00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:57.000
<v Speaker 1>So I like that.

30
00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's it's c E t oh is how

31
00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:05.359
<v Speaker 2>the whales name is is spelt, not how I wrote

32
00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:09.639
<v Speaker 2>it down many times in my notes. Yeah, this is

33
00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:13.280
<v Speaker 2>a new one. This is I write.

34
00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I wrote like a C do, like a C E

35
00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:18.599
<v Speaker 1>E d o, and then like the way that's wrong,

36
00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and then I just put like cee do like it's

37
00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:25.199
<v Speaker 1>a yeah a h O.

38
00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Initially see hoe ho C toe C.

39
00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Whale And then I read the review and I went, Okay,

40
00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I get it. Yeah, but you know what's crazy. So

41
00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I was reading about you know, killer whales or orca

42
00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:48.759
<v Speaker 1>in captivity and they do go they they start harming themselves,

43
00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:50.159
<v Speaker 1>they become violent.

44
00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

45
00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:54.400
<v Speaker 1>They they have these routines where they chew on metal

46
00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:57.639
<v Speaker 1>grates and they tear up their teeth, so they there's trauma,

47
00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:02.719
<v Speaker 1>there's self mutilations of your aggress repetitive behavior. There their

48
00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:07.560
<v Speaker 1>dorsal fins collapse, So it's they do experience psychosis and

49
00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:11.680
<v Speaker 1>madness in captivity. And and so I think that's an

50
00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:15.560
<v Speaker 1>interesting way. I think the center a plot around that's

51
00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:19.479
<v Speaker 1>that's I feel like you could pack in a message there.

52
00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:24.319
<v Speaker 1>But it's also quite interesting that that is what they're

53
00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:28.360
<v Speaker 1>going for with Killer Whale. And it's not really explored,

54
00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:29.879
<v Speaker 1>but it's a good idea.

55
00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, not really exploring things that I've got ideas is

56
00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:37.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of the byline for this film. Because also we

57
00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:42.599
<v Speaker 2>have our lead character, Matty Vintinia Gardner. She is is

58
00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:45.919
<v Speaker 2>double opening double opening trauma in this film, during one

59
00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:50.479
<v Speaker 2>of which one of which she is left hearing impaired. Yeah,

60
00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:52.639
<v Speaker 2>and they they that kind of comes up with like

61
00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:55.479
<v Speaker 2>when she gets near the whale, she gets like some

62
00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:58.479
<v Speaker 2>interference with her hearing aid a few times with the

63
00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:00.599
<v Speaker 2>echo location, and you think, oh, it's going to be

64
00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:02.599
<v Speaker 2>some kind of method. We're going to use this to

65
00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:05.280
<v Speaker 2>tell when the world's coming, or use it to tear

66
00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:10.400
<v Speaker 2>the whale away, And they don't do that. That's not Yeah,

67
00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:12.319
<v Speaker 2>that's not what happens. Like she has a hearing aid

68
00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:15.439
<v Speaker 2>the battery runs out, that that the sound drops out

69
00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:17.000
<v Speaker 2>at some point, you think always the rest of this

70
00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:21.759
<v Speaker 2>film going to be in silence. No no is catailed

71
00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:22.959
<v Speaker 2>initially immediately as well.

72
00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we're going to go into spoilers here, We're going

73
00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:31.519
<v Speaker 1>to be we must so before we go into sports.

74
00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:34.519
<v Speaker 2>Do we recommend the film? Do we recommend? Is Killer Whale?

75
00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:36.800
<v Speaker 2>A film with that? You should if you're a fan

76
00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:38.199
<v Speaker 2>of Deep with See and the kind of films we

77
00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:41.199
<v Speaker 2>cover from the show, is kill a Whale? For you?

78
00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:42.519
<v Speaker 2>What do you? What? Do you? What do you think?

79
00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Mark uh Okay? I would say yes, because there's ghost

80
00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Cellis Cello wists and the water. Trish is just Trish

81
00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:59.079
<v Speaker 1>gets it. There's a jet ski. I think both Virginia Gardner,

82
00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's from Falls, she's good. Mel Jarnson was

83
00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:04.720
<v Speaker 1>in Mortal Kombat, She's gonna be in Street Fighter. Good actors.

84
00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I think the idea is good. I think the Killer

85
00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Whale angle is good. Is does does this movie have

86
00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:14.120
<v Speaker 1>green screen? That is wildly noticeable?

87
00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Three sixty green screen showing a show in the what

88
00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:23.319
<v Speaker 2>do they do? The avatar and cool?

89
00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:29.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh? The the void not the void, the the not

90
00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:33.839
<v Speaker 1>the purge. We'll get there. Uh, the extreme noes.

91
00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:35.360
<v Speaker 2>I think it starts with me.

92
00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:41.720
<v Speaker 1>The the wall of l l ed screens that are

93
00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:45.000
<v Speaker 1>save you from using a lot of green screen because

94
00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:47.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, but it looks you can. There's a scene

95
00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:49.240
<v Speaker 1>where the three of them are on a jet ski

96
00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:53.120
<v Speaker 1>together and you're going, oh boy, oh you know, oh boy.

97
00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I get that this movie doesn't have the biggest budget,

98
00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:58.319
<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate what they worked around. But there's a

99
00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:01.399
<v Speaker 1>couple of scenes like Jesu Waits, it does make you

100
00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:04.639
<v Speaker 1>appreciate the shallows more, much like Thrash makes you appreciate

101
00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:10.879
<v Speaker 1>Crawl more. But I gotta tell you, Jay, this trauma

102
00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:12.079
<v Speaker 1>in sharp volume.

103
00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:13.399
<v Speaker 2>The volume.

104
00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:18.800
<v Speaker 1>The volume is the volume, not the extreme. This the

105
00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:23.720
<v Speaker 1>the Okay, so we've talked about shark movies, restalked just

106
00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:28.279
<v Speaker 1>so many shark movies start with a traumatic event and

107
00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:32.480
<v Speaker 1>then they aren't important later. These they are not important later.

108
00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:35.240
<v Speaker 1>And then this one, Jay.

109
00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:38.560
<v Speaker 2>That's one important one not important.

110
00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's but let's talk about Trish.

111
00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:42.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay.

112
00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:45.480
<v Speaker 1>So Trish is a famous influence where the eight hundred

113
00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and fifty eight hundred and fifty thousand followers.

114
00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:51.360
<v Speaker 2>But working on her her science genetics degree of some kind.

115
00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, working on her science genetics degree. She needed money

116
00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:05.439
<v Speaker 1>for her degree, so she hired a dude to go

117
00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:14.480
<v Speaker 1>knock off a cafe. But I looked in the register

118
00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:17.360
<v Speaker 1>and I took some photos. There's like three hundred bucks

119
00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:20.560
<v Speaker 1>in that. Yeah, at Hill.

120
00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:24.399
<v Speaker 2>Unless she had arranged for the guy to rob every

121
00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:29.319
<v Speaker 2>every like store in town, every diner, every place that night,

122
00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:31.800
<v Speaker 2>he's going on a spree.

123
00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:35.560
<v Speaker 1>So he's gone. Yeah, she sent him there because that

124
00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:37.279
<v Speaker 1>one lady wasn't supposed to be there. No one was

125
00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:38.079
<v Speaker 1>supposed to get hurt.

126
00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:39.480
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't supposed to have a gun.

127
00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:42.399
<v Speaker 1>The back door was like unlocked. Yeah, he shouldn't have

128
00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:44.879
<v Speaker 1>a gun. He shouldn't have taken her necklace. The boyfriend

129
00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:47.920
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have been at like super agro Bro if he

130
00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.399
<v Speaker 1>just would have, if he just would have sat there.

131
00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:53.639
<v Speaker 1>That guy wasn't gonna kill anybody. He did take off

132
00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:58.800
<v Speaker 1>his mask, which is crazy, but okay, so right to

133
00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:03.399
<v Speaker 1>pay off for school and PhD. She has a thief

134
00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:07.639
<v Speaker 1>going rob a diner and they're gonna split the money.

135
00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:10.920
<v Speaker 1>So she's gonna get a buck one hundred and fifty

136
00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:15.319
<v Speaker 1>something like that. If he just doesn't blast out a town.

137
00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:18.639
<v Speaker 1>So her plan is to knock off a diner make

138
00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:21.480
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty dollars to pay off for gigantic

139
00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:22.240
<v Speaker 1>school loans.

140
00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Correct, was it specified that it was to pay off

141
00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:28.040
<v Speaker 2>her school loans.

142
00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:31.920
<v Speaker 1>She's in debt, she needed money for something, and.

143
00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, one hundred and fifty dollars, it's gonna be

144
00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:39.000
<v Speaker 2>better ways of making that money.

145
00:08:40.120 --> 00:08:44.320
<v Speaker 1>She's worked like a bar, like a college bar or

146
00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:46.639
<v Speaker 1>something that makes a lot of cash on two weekends.

147
00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

148
00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like it's like college kids splash their cash here,

149
00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:55.480
<v Speaker 1>cash here because they don't want their parents seeing, you

150
00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:58.080
<v Speaker 1>know that the credit card bills. You know what, like

151
00:08:58.279 --> 00:08:59.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people spend their casher because they don't

152
00:08:59.799 --> 00:09:01.279
<v Speaker 1>want their and to see that they spent it at

153
00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:05.600
<v Speaker 1>h and ahe bar or shamoo bar. And and then

154
00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that means there's twenty five dollars in cash because of this,

155
00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:11.399
<v Speaker 1>and you go knock them off. That'll be easy. They

156
00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:14.240
<v Speaker 1>just walk out like this. But then something happens and

157
00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:17.000
<v Speaker 1>a big old you know, someone gets a boyfriend gets

158
00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:17.759
<v Speaker 1>hit by a truck.

159
00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:21.120
<v Speaker 2>So they should have had mad e v like working

160
00:09:21.159 --> 00:09:23.559
<v Speaker 2>in a jewelry store or something like that where there's

161
00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:27.919
<v Speaker 2>high high end ticket out items to steal and set

162
00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:31.240
<v Speaker 2>on the black market, and that would you could see

163
00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:33.240
<v Speaker 2>would be open. It wouldn't be open at night, I

164
00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:36.039
<v Speaker 2>guess you wouldn't have like a late night bank or

165
00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:42.360
<v Speaker 2>a late night jewelry store, late night bank, and it

166
00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:48.080
<v Speaker 2>should be on our own in a bank. Yeah, it's tricky.

167
00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:51.360
<v Speaker 1>No, how about this, At the end of every each

168
00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:53.360
<v Speaker 1>week they take the money out of the safe and

169
00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:55.799
<v Speaker 1>to put it in a a depart you know, they

170
00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:59.600
<v Speaker 1>go deposit the money. Because when I was in high school,

171
00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:01.759
<v Speaker 1>this is rare or no. When I was in college,

172
00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:03.879
<v Speaker 1>I was dating this manager from Chuck E. Cheese and

173
00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.440
<v Speaker 1>she had to go deliver a big deposit bag into

174
00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:09.759
<v Speaker 1>a bank. And I went with her a couple times

175
00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:12.279
<v Speaker 1>because she was just at night, not really digging the

176
00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:14.799
<v Speaker 1>fact that they had to do that, you know. And

177
00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:16.840
<v Speaker 1>at our theater you had to go drop the money

178
00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:21.200
<v Speaker 1>off in a at a bank to deposit it for

179
00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you know whatever, just to put it in the bank.

180
00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:24.559
<v Speaker 1>But that's a lot of money to be bringing.

181
00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:24.919
<v Speaker 2>To a bank.

182
00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:27.600
<v Speaker 1>So something like that, I just don't understand the diner

183
00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:28.559
<v Speaker 1>aspect of it.

184
00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I mean it makes sense. As for being

185
00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:35.679
<v Speaker 2>a job that Maddie has while she's at college, that

186
00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:38.679
<v Speaker 2>makes sense. But yeah, the fit being a successful robbery

187
00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:42.639
<v Speaker 2>to pay off a student loan, No, doesn't doesn't compute.

188
00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so that's the problem with this movie because

189
00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:48.919
<v Speaker 1>as soon as she explains the plan, I went, wait

190
00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:50.879
<v Speaker 1>a second, and I went back and I looked at

191
00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:52.799
<v Speaker 1>the money. That's not what you should be doing during

192
00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:55.600
<v Speaker 1>a movie, is going Wait, she made like one hundred

193
00:10:55.600 --> 00:11:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and fifty bucks. That's not a lot of money. No, Well,

194
00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:06.519
<v Speaker 1>like she's smart. Tricia's getting her doctricious, very smart.

195
00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:09.720
<v Speaker 2>And so says when they got because she's she's taken

196
00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Maddie on the vacation. She's paid for all of it.

197
00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:15.200
<v Speaker 2>She's got eight hundred and fifty thousand followers on social media,

198
00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:19.960
<v Speaker 2>and Maddie is like cooled in sick. She still works

199
00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:22.399
<v Speaker 2>at the diner. And they weren't at a post on

200
00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:24.519
<v Speaker 2>social media, weren't a tric post on social media, and

201
00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:27.039
<v Speaker 2>Tricias like now we should get you fired, we should

202
00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:29.000
<v Speaker 2>get you fired. I'm never going to be poor again.

203
00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:36.240
<v Speaker 2>She says, like way, hmmm, hard hard hard to like.

204
00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:41.639
<v Speaker 1>Trish, Trish, Trish and then you get taken. But and

205
00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:45.200
<v Speaker 1>then she makes it later on at the atoll and

206
00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:47.000
<v Speaker 1>then she goes back in the water and gets eaten

207
00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:49.120
<v Speaker 1>by a whale that can jump, you know, that has

208
00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:51.399
<v Speaker 1>known for coming out of the water to get seals.

209
00:11:51.720 --> 00:11:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's distressed by a plane. She's trying to yell

210
00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:56.919
<v Speaker 2>at a Plane's gonna.

211
00:11:56.679 --> 00:11:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Work now, listen. I think mel Johnson's good. I think

212
00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:01.919
<v Speaker 1>Virgin Gardener. They do. And it's easy to see why

213
00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:05.960
<v Speaker 1>they took this movie because it's the work is on them,

214
00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:08.639
<v Speaker 1>like it's it's all on them. And also, you know,

215
00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:11.919
<v Speaker 1>Joeann Breckon directed this. Cafro McPhee wrote it, so you know,

216
00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:13.519
<v Speaker 1>I think they were really proud of the all like

217
00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:15.720
<v Speaker 1>the all female team on the film, which is awesome.

218
00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean. And you know what though, like if this

219
00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:20.759
<v Speaker 1>is just a way to get a movie made, because

220
00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:23.120
<v Speaker 1>this was in Australia. We talked about how Dangerous Animals

221
00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:25.000
<v Speaker 1>was made. You know, Sean burn is a great director,

222
00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:26.639
<v Speaker 1>but you need to have sharks to get a movie made.

223
00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:29.679
<v Speaker 1>The Beasts of War. He's like, well, I can find

224
00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the Beast of War, so we go make a shark

225
00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:33.279
<v Speaker 1>movie and then what is it that I keep forgetting

226
00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:39.240
<v Speaker 1>the name of the underwater truck robbery bull movie. Yeah,

227
00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:41.200
<v Speaker 1>yeah that was made.

228
00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:43.519
<v Speaker 2>Because what do you keep forgetting the name fair below market.

229
00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:46.120
<v Speaker 2>It's so specific as to what that film is.

230
00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:55.879
<v Speaker 1>I just like River Gold Robbery movie, y River Robbery,

231
00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the shark River Robbery. Oh that's good, we need that.

232
00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:03.720
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that one. They were like, I just toss

233
00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:06.519
<v Speaker 1>the shark in there, so I think they wanted to

234
00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:09.120
<v Speaker 1>explore some things and then they're like, well, we can

235
00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:11.559
<v Speaker 1>get a shark movie made. So I think it's better

236
00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:13.679
<v Speaker 1>that they went out and made this movie. You know.

237
00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Even even our guy from black Water like he he went,

238
00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:18.960
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I can get these movies made. He's like,

239
00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I would love to make a comedy or dark humor,

240
00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:22.519
<v Speaker 1>but they won't fund it, so I can get alligator

241
00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:26.399
<v Speaker 1>movies made. So I think, you know, he don't don't

242
00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:28.720
<v Speaker 1>don't hate the player hit the game. So I think

243
00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:30.600
<v Speaker 1>they're like, yeah, we can get this made. But when

244
00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:32.440
<v Speaker 1>you listen, when you read the script, and you realize,

245
00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:36.080
<v Speaker 1>like an opening minute, there's a weird old boyfriend who's

246
00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:43.159
<v Speaker 1>super aggressive. Then he he gets his girlfriend, he destroys her,

247
00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:45.799
<v Speaker 1>hearing permanently and then runs out on the road and

248
00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:47.840
<v Speaker 1>then gets hit by a truck by a vengeful robber.

249
00:13:47.960 --> 00:13:49.000
<v Speaker 1>He's just three hundred dollars.

250
00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:52.559
<v Speaker 2>He gets he said stood there for ages, giving the

251
00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:54.279
<v Speaker 2>necklace back, and he gets the necklace back, and then

252
00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:56.799
<v Speaker 2>they're still just stood there, and I get that both

253
00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:00.559
<v Speaker 2>of them are like high on adrenaline at this situation

254
00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:04.399
<v Speaker 2>and the ringing in their ears from the shotgun. But

255
00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:08.639
<v Speaker 2>he just gets mowed down and no one sees the comment.

256
00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:13.639
<v Speaker 2>He gets crazy. He gets meet Joe blacked right in

257
00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:16.960
<v Speaker 2>front of her. I just want one, I guess. Yeah.

258
00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:20.840
<v Speaker 2>He gets taken out from the side, and I was like, wow,

259
00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:24.799
<v Speaker 2>hell yeah, And that's different. We don't we don't see

260
00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:26.919
<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing like that. I thought the opening

261
00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:30.600
<v Speaker 2>traule was going to be because she's a cellist, she's

262
00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:33.720
<v Speaker 2>got a cell and then she had lost her hearing.

263
00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:37.399
<v Speaker 2>That's the opening trauma, not like oh and also this

264
00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:41.159
<v Speaker 2>guy not around anymore, And it comes like straight after

265
00:14:42.200 --> 00:14:45.759
<v Speaker 2>the like opening trauma that doesn't really go anywhere, which

266
00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:50.039
<v Speaker 2>is the dolphin the whale trainer in Na sea World

267
00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:54.559
<v Speaker 2>yet like there on her own, she's been doing nights,

268
00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:58.440
<v Speaker 2>she's been working every shift available. She's she's locking up.

269
00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:00.960
<v Speaker 2>She goes to like say good night to the whale,

270
00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:04.440
<v Speaker 2>and the whales not around anywhere. So what do you do?

271
00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:06.759
<v Speaker 2>You get in the tank. Of course that's what you do.

272
00:15:06.799 --> 00:15:08.799
<v Speaker 2>You can't see the whale from from on the side,

273
00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:10.559
<v Speaker 2>so you get in the tank where your visit a

274
00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:14.679
<v Speaker 2>t will be so much better. And then she gets heaten.

275
00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I hate it's so bad.

276
00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:26.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. None. And so I was reading interviews about this

277
00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:29.360
<v Speaker 1>film before it was made, before I watched it, and

278
00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh man, they like went all out.

279
00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:34.639
<v Speaker 1>They planned everything. They built us a toll. Everything's practical,

280
00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:37.200
<v Speaker 1>they planned all the eye lines. None of that works.

281
00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:39.000
<v Speaker 1>There scenes where like the characters are looking at two

282
00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:42.360
<v Speaker 1>completely different things. Yep, and listen. They made the movie.

283
00:15:42.399 --> 00:15:45.399
<v Speaker 1>They got experienced. It's awesome. But yeah, that opening scene, Jay,

284
00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:48.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what is this? Does this lady just like

285
00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:53.039
<v Speaker 1>bone like when Mary and Courtyard gets her legs bitten

286
00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:55.480
<v Speaker 1>off by a killer whale. Then she becomes a bare

287
00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:59.279
<v Speaker 1>knuckle boxer promoter, Like that's the movie I want that

288
00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:01.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't do this? Yeah, she's never mentioned again. The janitor

289
00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:02.320
<v Speaker 1>just dies.

290
00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Jay just dies, just reaching for a cup eating it's

291
00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:07.039
<v Speaker 2>just trying to clean out the tank.

292
00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bro, trainers died at this place, and you're just

293
00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:13.200
<v Speaker 1>like mostiple this cup.

294
00:16:13.559 --> 00:16:16.240
<v Speaker 2>The security guard cools up someone and it happened again.

295
00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:19.879
<v Speaker 2>Not even there's another guy gone. So I'll get out

296
00:16:19.879 --> 00:16:21.919
<v Speaker 2>of the fish.

297
00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:23.960
<v Speaker 1>What does the guy say? He gets mad about it? Right,

298
00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:28.000
<v Speaker 1>he goes. What does he yell again? Get rid of

299
00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:33.039
<v Speaker 1>that damn fish? So he do they purposely drop it in?

300
00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:33.759
<v Speaker 1>That a toll?

301
00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I that's been dicks?

302
00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:36.799
<v Speaker 1>What they so?

303
00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:39.879
<v Speaker 2>This god knows he sees the people that have broken

304
00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:44.240
<v Speaker 2>in and follows them. I'll teach these kids a lesson.

305
00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:47.279
<v Speaker 2>I'll let their way out right where they are. I

306
00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:50.159
<v Speaker 2>don't think so. I think it's that's just gotta be

307
00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:51.960
<v Speaker 2>well pine. That's just got to be a fluke.

308
00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:56.519
<v Speaker 1>But it's stuck in there, correct, Yes, so.

309
00:16:56.480 --> 00:16:58.519
<v Speaker 2>I think it must have jumped in. It's gone over

310
00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:02.000
<v Speaker 2>the perimeter. I'll keep on saying. And it's like stuck

311
00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:03.679
<v Speaker 2>in there, and it thinks it's in a tank.

312
00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:08.279
<v Speaker 1>How did it go? So it was in the open ocean. Yeah,

313
00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:11.839
<v Speaker 1>it's by this point, it's psychotic, it's very aggressive, and it's.

314
00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:15.880
<v Speaker 2>It's been in captivity for twenty years and it lost

315
00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:19.400
<v Speaker 2>its calf two years ago. It's having a bad.

316
00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Time, yeah, and it just gets stuck. And then these

317
00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:25.680
<v Speaker 1>two ladies and a dude pop up and a seado.

318
00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they must have maybe it followed them, like

319
00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:30.519
<v Speaker 2>followed the jet ski there?

320
00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Did it jump into that? If it could get in?

321
00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:34.599
<v Speaker 1>And can it get out? Knock get out?

322
00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:38.720
<v Speaker 2>It can get out? But this is this is the

323
00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:45.359
<v Speaker 2>it's not well established sides. There's no Yeah, they come

324
00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:46.920
<v Speaker 2>up on a rock and you're thinking, oh, that rock's

325
00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:49.680
<v Speaker 2>going to disappe it like the Shallows. Yeah, this is

326
00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:51.039
<v Speaker 2>the Shallows too. This film is trying to be the

327
00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:55.759
<v Speaker 2>Shallows too, and it fails. But I think the whale

328
00:17:56.240 --> 00:18:01.160
<v Speaker 2>sees the jet ski, follows the jet ski, jumps into

329
00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:06.160
<v Speaker 2>the into the enclosure after the jet ski into the

330
00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:10.240
<v Speaker 2>perimeter sorry, and then thinks it's trapped in there because

331
00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:17.160
<v Speaker 2>it's a phrased whale. I don't know, yeah, and then

332
00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:20.119
<v Speaker 2>doesn't think you can get out because it's not used

333
00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:23.359
<v Speaker 2>to being in the open ocean. It's what's the short

334
00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:25.640
<v Speaker 2>sank thing. It's institutionalized.

335
00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Who gets Brooks Brooks Brooks is himself Brooks is.

336
00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:42.240
<v Speaker 2>But it's not Wait, no, it's not trapped because it is. No. Well, no,

337
00:18:42.359 --> 00:18:45.640
<v Speaker 2>at the end, wayt spoilers right at the end that

338
00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:53.440
<v Speaker 2>when the jetski crashes, that's inside the perimeter. Yeah yeah,

339
00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:56.319
<v Speaker 2>so she goes down, she gets the bad She she

340
00:18:56.680 --> 00:18:59.680
<v Speaker 2>like stabs the world and the eye down with the

341
00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:06.359
<v Speaker 2>jets and then it just swims away. It just swims away.

342
00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Where are these rocks from?

343
00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:16.960
<v Speaker 2>There's a perimeter, but is the is the perimeter fully

344
00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:20.839
<v Speaker 2>there underwater? It must be just.

345
00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:25.839
<v Speaker 1>It's not just like the ocean.

346
00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, famously, rocks don't float. That's what they're known for.

347
00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh. Yeah, this is we just needed that is

348
00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:46.680
<v Speaker 2>not explained. Very few things are. So what bothered me

349
00:19:46.759 --> 00:19:48.880
<v Speaker 2>about this film is it sets up as as you

350
00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:54.000
<v Speaker 2>point out, it establishes like workers in captivity very bad,

351
00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:56.920
<v Speaker 2>don't do it, they don't like it, not a good thing.

352
00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:01.119
<v Speaker 2>And it establishes that Tito is a victim in all

353
00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:03.720
<v Speaker 2>of this. No, she's been kept for twenty years, lost

354
00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:07.799
<v Speaker 2>the calf, gone insane, so established that she is not

355
00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:10.559
<v Speaker 2>not this She has become a mindless killer, but she's

356
00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:14.799
<v Speaker 2>not like this monster, And so you feel sorry for

357
00:20:14.839 --> 00:20:18.640
<v Speaker 2>the whale. You think watching it, I was thinking, how

358
00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:21.240
<v Speaker 2>are they gonna land this plane, how are they gonna

359
00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:25.400
<v Speaker 2>like get get out of this situation without just killing

360
00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:27.720
<v Speaker 2>the whale because the whale is trying to kill them.

361
00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:31.559
<v Speaker 2>They can't kill the whale because they've set the whole

362
00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:33.400
<v Speaker 2>whole way up that it's it's not a monster, it's

363
00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:36.880
<v Speaker 2>a victim. And so they they don't kill the killer whale.

364
00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:38.880
<v Speaker 2>They stab the killer whale in the eye and then

365
00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:42.720
<v Speaker 2>it swims away. But it's horrific. She really goes for it.

366
00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:47.000
<v Speaker 2>You get whales of pain and whales. That was not intentional.

367
00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I just felt so whales, the whale, whales, whale well

368
00:20:55.720 --> 00:20:58.920
<v Speaker 2>well and just swims away, and I felt so bad

369
00:20:58.960 --> 00:21:03.039
<v Speaker 2>for her. Well, I get it because she's already she's eaten.

370
00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:06.160
<v Speaker 2>She's killed at least four people that we've seen in

371
00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:10.240
<v Speaker 2>this film, many more prior to the events of this film.

372
00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably a customer a week.

373
00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's a high turn I mean it's probably

374
00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:22.240
<v Speaker 2>more staff because of the once you get closer, But

375
00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:25.000
<v Speaker 2>that's a high turnover. You know, that's not good. That's

376
00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:29.880
<v Speaker 2>that's poor employee retention. I think, yeah, yeah, it's not good.

377
00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:32.599
<v Speaker 2>Not good. See, I wasn't satisfied with how with how

378
00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:35.839
<v Speaker 2>the film dealt with the whale being a victim, but

379
00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:38.359
<v Speaker 2>just like just stabby in the eye. It's fine, it's

380
00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:41.720
<v Speaker 2>still alive, but it's it's life hasn't improved at all.

381
00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:43.240
<v Speaker 2>It's gotten significantly worse.

382
00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so now it's just psychotic and with one eye.

383
00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:54.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, psychotic, half blind out in the world, do it

384
00:21:54.920 --> 00:21:57.680
<v Speaker 2>kill a whale? Two? Coming this next spring.

385
00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:01.279
<v Speaker 1>I was holding that underwater Cello ghosts would come out

386
00:22:01.319 --> 00:22:01.759
<v Speaker 1>and help.

387
00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I was hoping at some point somebody would make an

388
00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Orca Orchestra reference, but that also didn't happen.

389
00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:16.240
<v Speaker 1>You know what's you know what's crazy too? Is all right,

390
00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:19.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a fall, which was Virginia Gardner's. Then you realize

391
00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:23.799
<v Speaker 1>that she was sleeping with her friends. Ah, what is it?

392
00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:27.160
<v Speaker 1>She was sleeping with her friend's boyfriend for a while.

393
00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Bait rules, Yeah, shark bait sleeping with boyfriend. Blackwater abyss

394
00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:38.680
<v Speaker 1>sleeping with boyfriend pregnant. You know, Belius, Blackwater just has

395
00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:43.200
<v Speaker 1>a pregnancy subplot and no cheating, which is refreshing.

396
00:22:43.839 --> 00:22:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's no bunch of anyway.

397
00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:50.160
<v Speaker 1>So you know, the restock is good because it doesn't

398
00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:53.640
<v Speaker 1>have a second half turn, which is kind of nice.

399
00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but.

400
00:22:57.720 --> 00:23:02.200
<v Speaker 1>This is the craziest thing I've This is the craziest

401
00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:02.839
<v Speaker 1>of all of them.

402
00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Jay.

403
00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:07.160
<v Speaker 1>It's not just like a cheating I slept at your boyfriend.

404
00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I always his death for three hundred dollars.

405
00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:18.839
<v Speaker 1>And you're just going, what like, she did not have

406
00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:21.960
<v Speaker 1>to get that off her chest, Like, that's not that's

407
00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:23.119
<v Speaker 1>not something you tell.

408
00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Somebody or like, imagine, wait until you survived.

409
00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, so you so you hired a guy to

410
00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:35.240
<v Speaker 1>steal like one hundred and fifty bucks to pay massive

411
00:23:35.319 --> 00:23:37.359
<v Speaker 1>loans and you split it with them.

412
00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:40.839
<v Speaker 2>It worked. She hasn't got any debts anymore. She's and

413
00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:45.519
<v Speaker 2>she's successful social media influence doing her degree. So this

414
00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:54.640
<v Speaker 2>was the right decision to make. Evidently, it's if if

415
00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:56.880
<v Speaker 2>she done that and then not gone jet skiing, then

416
00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:02.240
<v Speaker 2>that's gold achievement were done. The mistake here wasn't the

417
00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:04.799
<v Speaker 2>hiring the guy to pay it and it was going

418
00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:07.680
<v Speaker 2>on there was taking a trying to make up for

419
00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:10.759
<v Speaker 2>going on vacation. That's the mistake she made.

420
00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like her guilt got to her. I guess, hey,

421
00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take you here to look at this whale.

422
00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:21.319
<v Speaker 2>That your favorite whale that you and.

423
00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Your boyfriend loved. You very aggressive. You're very aggressive boyfriend.

424
00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I just want to get that out there, man. And

425
00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:31.599
<v Speaker 1>then you have the kid from the Descendants riding jet

426
00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:33.039
<v Speaker 1>skis around.

427
00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:34.720
<v Speaker 2>That's who that is.

428
00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:38.559
<v Speaker 1>And then he takes her phone. He's a stranger who

429
00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:41.039
<v Speaker 1>takes a woman's phone away from her and hides it.

430
00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:45.599
<v Speaker 2>And then somehow causes her to forget that it exists.

431
00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:49.319
<v Speaker 2>At this phone is established anyway, I was thinking of

432
00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:51.519
<v Speaker 2>a different de Descendants. I was thinking of that the

433
00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:56.240
<v Speaker 2>George Cluney film. Ah, different thing. So, yeah, there's there's

434
00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:59.960
<v Speaker 2>two phones in this one of them waterproof established early on,

435
00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:02.880
<v Speaker 2>made a whole whole scene to say, this is a

436
00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:05.759
<v Speaker 2>phone that is waterproof, she uses it all the time.

437
00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:09.400
<v Speaker 2>And another phone not waterproof, in a plastic bag. One

438
00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:12.119
<v Speaker 2>phone that is waterproof put in jet ski. Jet ski suck.

439
00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:15.000
<v Speaker 2>The other phone not waterproof in a plastic bag. Lost,

440
00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:18.079
<v Speaker 2>but bag important. So we have a phone is all

441
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:20.200
<v Speaker 2>in our mind because the bag is still here. But

442
00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:22.640
<v Speaker 2>they forget the existence of the waterproof phone and the

443
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.880
<v Speaker 2>jet ski for an hour. That's an hour of film time.

444
00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:32.400
<v Speaker 2>This is like two days of in movie time. And

445
00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:34.720
<v Speaker 2>when they remember that the phone exists. It's so easy

446
00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:36.880
<v Speaker 2>to get it's not a problem to get it at all.

447
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:39.279
<v Speaker 2>They just go and get it, and.

448
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Then they got it.

449
00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.039
<v Speaker 2>This is a kind of film where a kind of

450
00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:47.640
<v Speaker 2>script where like things are problems until the script needs

451
00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:50.880
<v Speaker 2>them to happen, and it's not a problem anymore. It's

452
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:52.839
<v Speaker 2>all very possible. We can get there. Just gotta swim

453
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:53.839
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, there you're there.

454
00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, phones down here anytime anybody else swims, it's horrifying.

455
00:25:58.160 --> 00:25:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

456
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:01.200
<v Speaker 1>And they're on a pizza float.

457
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:04.440
<v Speaker 2>They're an inflatable pizza which has a rope on it

458
00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:07.000
<v Speaker 2>has a bit like a string. There's not tied to anything,

459
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.319
<v Speaker 2>but what it's like drifting away and getting tat despite

460
00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:13.640
<v Speaker 2>not being tied to anything. And then the whale at

461
00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:15.400
<v Speaker 2>one point is able to grab the rope and pull

462
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:17.519
<v Speaker 2>it hard enough that it rips it off of the

463
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:20.680
<v Speaker 2>inflatable and starts deflating it instead of just pulling the

464
00:26:20.680 --> 00:26:24.400
<v Speaker 2>inflatable towards the whale. It it's again, it's magic. Plot

465
00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:25.519
<v Speaker 2>is what do we need to seem to do in

466
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:29.319
<v Speaker 2>the plot, Well, that's what it's going to do. Bothered me.

467
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:31.119
<v Speaker 2>We like to be positive on this show. But these

468
00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:34.160
<v Speaker 2>things all bothered me when I watched this film.

469
00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is an odd duck, this is an odd will.

470
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:39.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the budget was for the film,

471
00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>but I think they did a good job. It's I'm

472
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:44.720
<v Speaker 2>guessing not huge. Ah.

473
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>They got good actors though, that's the thing. Like, they

474
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:51.880
<v Speaker 1>got good actors who have been in some big properties.

475
00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I like the Virginia Gardener in Full she was the

476
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:58.480
<v Speaker 2>influencer and now she's graduated to not being the influencer.

477
00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:00.920
<v Speaker 2>In the film, she's the lead. That's I feel like

478
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:03.680
<v Speaker 2>that's the step up. So Mel Johnson, the next one

479
00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:05.359
<v Speaker 2>of these she does, she won't be the influencer more,

480
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:06.240
<v Speaker 2>should be the lead.

481
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:17.440
<v Speaker 1>The next the next revival film. Yeah, I'm trying to

482
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:19.599
<v Speaker 1>research this movie too, but there's not much out there.

483
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:22.920
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to research because this is called kill a way.

484
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Because do you want to hear what I found?

485
00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:29.079
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to please.

486
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So they shot it on a Brisbane soundstage. They

487
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the production design process began not with spectacle, but with clarity.

488
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>They commissioned a detailed scale model. The I don't know, okay,

489
00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:49.400
<v Speaker 1>they they commissioned a detailed scale so they want a

490
00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:51.640
<v Speaker 1>clear vision of what they were making. So I know what,

491
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:54.680
<v Speaker 1>So if you're producing a movie with a very limited budget,

492
00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:57.279
<v Speaker 1>it's smart doing what they did. So they commissioned a

493
00:27:57.319 --> 00:27:59.640
<v Speaker 1>detailed scale model the atoll, creating a physical map that

494
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>defined geography, distance, the sitelines, and character movement. The model

495
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:05.680
<v Speaker 1>became a constant reference point across departments, from stunts and

496
00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:08.920
<v Speaker 1>visual effects to camera and production design, ensuring the spatial

497
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>logic remain consistent throughout the film, which it doesn't that

498
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>this thing is so deep and it differs in size,

499
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:20.200
<v Speaker 1>but whatever, only the elements the characters physically interact with

500
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 1>would be built. Everything else would be extended digitally grounded

501
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:27.160
<v Speaker 1>in scans of the real sets. So then they allowed

502
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:29.720
<v Speaker 1>the team to work efficiently within an Australian budget while

503
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 1>still delivering scale.

504
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:35.000
<v Speaker 2>The reasonult is with an Australian budget.

505
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:37.640
<v Speaker 1>That's what it says. The film is a film. The

506
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:43.599
<v Speaker 1>result is a film that privileges interaction over illusion. This

507
00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:45.759
<v Speaker 1>film is shaped through a female gaze focused on agency,

508
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>empathy and consequence rather than objectification.

509
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Although my wife did point out there was quite a

510
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:53.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of cleavid shots. When she pointed out, I was like,

511
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:55.599
<v Speaker 2>but it was written by a direct by a lady.

512
00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:57.480
<v Speaker 2>It's okay.

513
00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Shallows is less. It is like she

514
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:06.079
<v Speaker 1>because she starts, she goes surfing, right, yeah, and she

515
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>has her top, but then she takes set off slowly

516
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:12.079
<v Speaker 1>to like tie up her wounds. So it makes sense

517
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>why she does that, and I feel like it's less. Yes,

518
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>you put a woman in a bikini for ninety minutes

519
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>in a movie, it's a choice, but this one, I

520
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like there's a lot more butt shots than this one.

521
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not being weird. I watched this with Megan too,

522
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:28.799
<v Speaker 1>and like like she's like, well there's another one, and

523
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>like like you're you know, like your wife said. So

524
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:33.599
<v Speaker 1>it's so I'm reading all this and like the thematic

525
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:39.039
<v Speaker 1>framing reflects a broader generational anxiety. Beneath the surface tension lie.

526
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Beneath the surface tension lies the story about powerlessness inherited

527
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 1>crises and young people force to navigate disasters set in

528
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>motion long before they arrived.

529
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:54.079
<v Speaker 2>Inherited crisies. Didn't inherit this crisis that's talking about the

530
00:29:54.240 --> 00:30:02.400
<v Speaker 2>the whale, because like no, they calls they did it,

531
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:10.440
<v Speaker 2>They went there. They caused the friendship rift between them. Uh,

532
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 2>I want to see this film that they're talking about.

533
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and imagine reading all this before you watch it.

534
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, I'm pretty pumped this like I'm ready,

535
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to rock. Because that's the one interview I found.

536
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I tried to lower your expectations with three Nights. Oof.

537
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:33.799
<v Speaker 1>That's it is oof because but you know, even in

538
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>the trailer they show the the the underwater ghost cello

539
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>player ghosts like this is odd, but cello's not even important.

540
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know why the cello subplot is in here.

541
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:49.400
<v Speaker 2>It's I think it's it's not like at some point

542
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.960
<v Speaker 2>in the script it was vital, and then through revisions

543
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:55.599
<v Speaker 2>it just became like, yeah, she's a cellist. And then

544
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:59.359
<v Speaker 2>it makes extra sad that she does her harry because

545
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.720
<v Speaker 2>she's she's musician and there's no famous musicians who were deaf,

546
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:09.400
<v Speaker 2>not not a one. I can't think of any Uh.

547
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:13.480
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't even play chords or anything during the movie

548
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:14.720
<v Speaker 1>to soothe the whale.

549
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>No, she doesn't have a cello with us.

550
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:23.839
<v Speaker 1>Isn't a Bond film where they use a cello?

551
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:29.640
<v Speaker 2>They going to toboggan in a cello case in Oh God,

552
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:34.039
<v Speaker 2>I want to say that I don't manage the secret Service.

553
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:36.039
<v Speaker 2>I want to say, maybe don't.

554
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:39.519
<v Speaker 1>They don't even have this. They don't have a cello boat,

555
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>which one has the cellist in it? Also Jay Trish,

556
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Hey you're grieving your boyfriend, let's go to this living

557
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Daylights there. That's the Dalton one, right, Yeah, yeah, he's

558
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:53.319
<v Speaker 1>with the cello lady.

559
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:55.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what did I think it was a different one.

560
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 1>I think.

561
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:01.480
<v Speaker 2>There's a toboggan as an actual tobogan, not a cello toboggan,

562
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.079
<v Speaker 2>and much secret service, whereas that it does has a

563
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:06.039
<v Speaker 2>cellow case toboggan.

564
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, there's so many snow chases in that franchise, so.

565
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:11.319
<v Speaker 2>It's just, yes, too many. It's easy to.

566
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Mix them up. But okay, So Trisha's like, hey, we're

567
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:16.799
<v Speaker 1>going on vacation. I'm gonna get you fired from your job.

568
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:19.279
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take a bunch of pills and we're just

569
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:21.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna on our first night there, we're gonna get pilled

570
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>up and.

571
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Draw messed up, break into SeaWorld.

572
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:27.599
<v Speaker 1>Your next Like the rest of the trip's gonna be

573
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:32.279
<v Speaker 1>a nightmare because you're hungover in sunburn. Like, yeah, I

574
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>get the urge, but like these also, you know, maybe

575
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just because of the age of the characters, but

576
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>they're about thirty and so it's not in the.

577
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Movie they're supposed to be that's sposed to be like

578
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:46.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty two, I think, Yeah, but like.

579
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess since they're ball thirty, you're just there's like

580
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:51.759
<v Speaker 1>a weird disconnect. Like listen, I've gone to things before

581
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:53.559
<v Speaker 1>and just partied the first night and had it wrecked,

582
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>but like I haven't.

583
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:58.799
<v Speaker 2>I never did that.

584
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Florida, So yeah, it's it's like it's just and then

585
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:05.759
<v Speaker 1>she hooks up with this dude and then they're like, hey,

586
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:09.599
<v Speaker 1>let's go jet ski and then I mean, it's a

587
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>good plan, but.

588
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Just create this.

589
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:21.279
<v Speaker 1>It's they don't even mention how that the killer killer

590
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:22.359
<v Speaker 1>whale gets in there.

591
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or how it gets out or where it goes

592
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:26.720
<v Speaker 2>off towards uh.

593
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the Tricia need to die because like Trisha

594
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>made a jump for it, and then how do we

595
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:35.279
<v Speaker 1>kill her while she goes and stands in the water

596
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:35.799
<v Speaker 1>and gets.

597
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Eat I think given that she orchestrated straight the death

598
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:47.440
<v Speaker 2>of sorry, the death of Chad, she had to narratively

599
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:57.039
<v Speaker 2>morally be eaten by a whale. Yeah, I wish it was.

600
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Jay, let's say the same thing happens to

601
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>you and me, and you explain this. I'm like, okay,

602
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:07.519
<v Speaker 1>so Jay, you hired a random person.

603
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.320
<v Speaker 2>I thought there'd be more money there. I thought there'd

604
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:19.480
<v Speaker 2>be tens of thousands of pounds in this diner. In

605
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:23.000
<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty popular diner, people go like students. I

606
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:26.079
<v Speaker 2>know it's prominent graduation. I know. I know that everyone

607
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:29.719
<v Speaker 2>in town has kids and they're all at this graduation ceremony.

608
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:31.800
<v Speaker 2>And the diner is going to make no money right now.

609
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:34.480
<v Speaker 2>That's why it's perfect time to rob it. But no

610
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:36.199
<v Speaker 2>one's going to be No one's gonna.

611
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Be Oh the guy shows up with this cap on,

612
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:46.599
<v Speaker 3>everyone's going to be here.

613
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's going to be here at the graduation. No one's

614
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.119
<v Speaker 1>going to be at this restaurant. And that's why everyone

615
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:56.400
<v Speaker 1>pre gamed. Everyone pre gamed at the diner. Everyone went

616
00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and they got their evening meal. You know how you

617
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:03.519
<v Speaker 1>celebrate graduation at a diner. That's that's how you do it.

618
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, he cap on, he's come, he's come from graduation

619
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.360
<v Speaker 2>wearing his cap on rope and then he gets killed

620
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:10.559
<v Speaker 2>in it.

621
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he didn't have to die a lot of car

622
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I remember my high school graduation. I went to Applebee's

623
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and I wore a short sleeved white shirt and you know,

624
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and you know since around the area there's a lot

625
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>of scientologists and they wear like the white button up,

626
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>short sh shirt. And my brother looked at me and

627
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.679
<v Speaker 1>he goes, you look like a scientologist. Like that's my

628
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:36.639
<v Speaker 1>one memory from my high school graduation set Applebee's and

629
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you look like it. I don't know why, but yeah,

630
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:40.039
<v Speaker 1>so but I didn't go to a diner jay, is

631
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.079
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I went to like a pop in

632
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>restaurant beforehand.

633
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:48.039
<v Speaker 2>I I don't My graduation was like during the day early,

634
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:50.440
<v Speaker 2>so I don't remember if we went. I know my

635
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:53.840
<v Speaker 2>granddad cried, is my memory of my graduation, because like

636
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:56.920
<v Speaker 2>the first person in my family to graduate from university,

637
00:35:57.880 --> 00:35:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I got an award and he didn't know I was

638
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:02.320
<v Speaker 2>gontar he cried, So.

639
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh oh, we have such stories yea. But yeah, so

640
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:09.639
<v Speaker 1>it's like, hey, no one's going to be here, so

641
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:13.519
<v Speaker 1>let's rob it. And this is like a PhD candidate.

642
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I maybe don't have a lot of street

643
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:18.840
<v Speaker 1>smarts you have book smarts, but she also seems pretty

644
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 1>savvy with things, but she is quite impulsive. Yeah, hey

645
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:30.039
<v Speaker 1>go rob my friend's diner when no one's there.

646
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:35.079
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, we we have to get past that. It's

647
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:37.840
<v Speaker 2>not it doesn't it's not gonna make any sense. I

648
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:42.360
<v Speaker 2>can't fathom how it would like. It just doesn't work.

649
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:43.599
<v Speaker 2>It is.

650
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.639
<v Speaker 1>I will tell you, I was waiting for her to

651
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:51.840
<v Speaker 1>be like, I wanted you dead, so I hired a

652
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:55.559
<v Speaker 1>person to come rob, a person to kill you so

653
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:57.280
<v Speaker 1>that I could date your boyfriend.

654
00:36:57.400 --> 00:36:59.159
<v Speaker 2>And now I brought you here to feed you to

655
00:36:59.239 --> 00:36:59.800
<v Speaker 2>a whale.

656
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so it's like, wait, you hired a hitman

657
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:04.679
<v Speaker 1>to come shoot me when I was working at the diner,

658
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:09.119
<v Speaker 1>but then you actually killed the person you were sleeping.

659
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:10.840
<v Speaker 2>With, and then you waited a year.

660
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:15.039
<v Speaker 1>Because the robber was actually in love with me with you,

661
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:18.559
<v Speaker 1>So it's like a weird triple cross. Now you're telling

662
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:20.280
<v Speaker 1>me this on a toll.

663
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, the whole plan was like the whole the hit

664
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:28.360
<v Speaker 2>was just out on Chad and he wasn't supposed to

665
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:30.000
<v Speaker 2>go to the diner. The guy was just supposed to

666
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>kill Chad, and so the Chad went to the diner,

667
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:34.559
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, Okay, I'm gonna kill Chad. And

668
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:37.280
<v Speaker 2>the thing she's sorry for is the hearing loss.

669
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:41.679
<v Speaker 1>So she was gonna kill Chad.

670
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no one knows, just Chad because Chad used to

671
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:50.840
<v Speaker 2>date Trish. Now he's don't Trish to go for Maddie, Chad.

672
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Chad's an angry fellow.

673
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, this is.

674
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>An odd one. This is odd one.

675
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:01.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

676
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what though, I like Thrash, but it

677
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:09.519
<v Speaker 1>does make me appreciate Crawl more. And this movie makes

678
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:11.639
<v Speaker 1>me love the Shallows more.

679
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:15.199
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Yes, I feel like if we watch, if we

680
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:19.320
<v Speaker 2>want shocked, but again, we might appreciate this more. Whoa, Yeah,

681
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:21.000
<v Speaker 2>there's a chain of films.

682
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:24.800
<v Speaker 1>So and it ends with a great white but yeah,

683
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:28.840
<v Speaker 1>so we all right, But like Shallows, Blake Lively is

684
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:32.400
<v Speaker 1>just there with a bird and it's the tide is

685
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:35.800
<v Speaker 1>going up and down. She's timing things. There's other surfers,

686
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:39.119
<v Speaker 1>you steal stuff, there's people who come back the next day. Stephen,

687
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:43.519
<v Speaker 1>Stephen the seagull Like, there's there's a stitching scene, There's

688
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:46.679
<v Speaker 1>there's a narrative there. Also, the shark's there because of

689
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:48.559
<v Speaker 1>the way all carcass and she's there because she want

690
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>to honor her mom's memory, and she stays out a

691
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>little too late, Like that's you know what's kind of

692
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 1>crazy is that doesn't seem hard to I haven't written anything,

693
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:58.920
<v Speaker 1>so I can't say anything. But it's like, hey, how

694
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.119
<v Speaker 1>is she on this beach? Well? Her and mom served

695
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:03.639
<v Speaker 1>that she wants honor her memory? Okay, how does she

696
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>like sew up her stuff? She's a nursing student and

697
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:09.159
<v Speaker 1>she's on sabbatical. Okay, well is she there by herself

698
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>while she's with a friend, But like, I don't know, her

699
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>friend got drunk? Okay, well that's cool. What else is there?

700
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Like why is the shark there? Whale carct so they

701
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:21.559
<v Speaker 1>at least explain why she's on the rock.

702
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.519
<v Speaker 2>I feel like this film could be fixed, at least

703
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:28.519
<v Speaker 2>partially if they they show the whale jumping into the

704
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:31.320
<v Speaker 2>prom to get them and then show that it's don't

705
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:34.000
<v Speaker 2>tell us, show us that it's trapped in there, show

706
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.519
<v Speaker 2>it like circling and just being stuck in there, and

707
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.440
<v Speaker 2>then it ends not with it being stabbed in the eye,

708
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Speaker 2>but with Maddie figuring out how to get Tito out

709
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:48.000
<v Speaker 2>of the perimeter, like using herself as bait or whatever

710
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:51.320
<v Speaker 2>to like, so it can free Willy over the over

711
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:52.960
<v Speaker 2>the rock and then it's out and it's free. And

712
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:56.360
<v Speaker 2>so the end of the film is Tito is out, hooray, Yeah,

713
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Trish died, Yeah, Josh died, Maddie scarred for life whatever,

714
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:03.760
<v Speaker 2>but she like, and the metaphor there is not only

715
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:08.119
<v Speaker 2>has Maddie freed Sito, she's freed herself from what was

716
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:11.880
<v Speaker 2>keeping her back and not graduating, not doing her shallow recital.

717
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:15.760
<v Speaker 2>This whole experience is freed, not just the whale but herself.

718
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:19.719
<v Speaker 2>That I feel like would work, But because we're missing

719
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 2>seeing the whale going into the perimeter and out of

720
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:27.639
<v Speaker 2>the perimeter, two things that must have happened, but we

721
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:34.480
<v Speaker 2>are not sure. The swims off into the distance. We

722
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:36.800
<v Speaker 2>don't see it anymore. It just goes intil it can't

723
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:41.239
<v Speaker 2>and it's not that big of an adult. I feel

724
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:41.519
<v Speaker 2>like that.

725
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Would help the movie's crazy, because like.

726
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how the hearing had come into it,

727
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:56.760
<v Speaker 2>but that could be used some way, Like she can

728
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:01.559
<v Speaker 2>use the hearing aid and it's then she can embrace

729
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:05.079
<v Speaker 2>that new aspect of her life where she can't hear anymore.

730
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:06.960
<v Speaker 2>That's not going to hold her back. That's what's gonna

731
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:10.559
<v Speaker 2>help propeller forward somehow. I don't know. I haven't written

732
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:12.360
<v Speaker 2>the script, are in it, but that's where I would

733
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:14.079
<v Speaker 2>start trying to make this film better.

734
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:20.679
<v Speaker 1>And actors are good. Remember Rigidita Gardner and Halloween. She

735
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:22.440
<v Speaker 1>was like her and that little guy were like probably

736
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:24.239
<v Speaker 1>my favorite part. I don't really even like that movie,

737
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:27.079
<v Speaker 1>and I thought she was good, and they're good in Fall?

738
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Is she good in Fall?

739
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:31.719
<v Speaker 2>So this.

740
00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I just don't get it. I mean, listen, a movie

741
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:39.840
<v Speaker 1>was made, people got paid well I'm rhyming, and we

742
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>came up with the term of what what did you

743
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:43.760
<v Speaker 1>call it? Underwater? Wait river?

744
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean there are worse titles. There's like Ark the

745
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Shark and saw Women's Prison Massacre is the name of

746
00:41:56.760 --> 00:42:01.440
<v Speaker 2>a film we haven't covered yet. You said, oh yeah, sure.

747
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.519
<v Speaker 1>Uh you know what movie is rough when you go

748
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:10.400
<v Speaker 1>to like explain a plan and it takes twenty minutes,

749
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:14.880
<v Speaker 1>then you freeze halfway through it and you just you know.

750
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>So on an episode of Movies from the Flicks with Norber,

751
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about Fled and every time I tried

752
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:23.760
<v Speaker 1>to explain the plot, I just stopped and I was like, gosh,

753
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:29.360
<v Speaker 1>this is crazy. I think the good I feel like

754
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:32.880
<v Speaker 1>even the movies that are really like Inception, you could

755
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:35.920
<v Speaker 1>probably explain that pretty quickly. They go to they go

756
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:38.079
<v Speaker 1>in as billionaires playing to praising idea. It's like a

757
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>rob like it's like it's a heightst film but with

758
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:44.119
<v Speaker 1>memories whatever. So you can explain that. But when you

759
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:49.679
<v Speaker 1>try to explain this movie, which it.

760
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Should be a much simpler premise because it's just there's

761
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:56.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a creature. I guess there's so many

762
00:42:56.559 --> 00:43:00.719
<v Speaker 2>creature features, there's so many shock or well films to

763
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:04.000
<v Speaker 2>try and differentiate from each other. The way they do

764
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:08.880
<v Speaker 2>that is making the plot overly convoluted, maybe because like

765
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:10.920
<v Speaker 2>we've had you know, Jewels is very simple. There's a

766
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:13.800
<v Speaker 2>shark in the water. The town don't like it. Like

767
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:18.239
<v Speaker 2>the premise there is, there's a shark. It's a coastal

768
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:20.239
<v Speaker 2>town they make money from in the summer. There's a

769
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:21.880
<v Speaker 2>shark there in the summer. They want to get out

770
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:24.639
<v Speaker 2>of the shark. Very simple. Every film that's been made

771
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:26.800
<v Speaker 2>since then has to be a little bit more difficult,

772
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:29.320
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more complicated, Like even Jewels too, as

773
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:33.239
<v Speaker 2>a shark but also a regatta. Uh, and so it's

774
00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:36.360
<v Speaker 2>it's little there's a shark there, but there's been a

775
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:38.239
<v Speaker 2>shark before, so they don't believe there's a shark there

776
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:43.920
<v Speaker 2>as much. And it's kids like Shark Jewels three put

777
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:47.760
<v Speaker 2>it's in sea world and a baby shark and yeah,

778
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:50.599
<v Speaker 2>that's that's getting more complicated because there's there's a baby

779
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:52.880
<v Speaker 2>shark and a shark and the baby shark is captured.

780
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:56.719
<v Speaker 2>But then tight and j got a Jaw's revenge Jos

781
00:43:56.719 --> 00:44:01.679
<v Speaker 2>four is so simple, so straight forward as a shark.

782
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Its vengeful after this family. It was the killeryone in

783
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:05.119
<v Speaker 2>this family. Why, I don't know. Is it the same

784
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:08.960
<v Speaker 2>shock from the first film? No? Relative unclear, It's it

785
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:14.599
<v Speaker 2>follows them across the world to try and kill. Films

786
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:18.280
<v Speaker 2>just get more complicated, trying to be less like Jaws.

787
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I guess. So I mean what I was less to

788
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:24.920
<v Speaker 2>less complicated than like Chews of Revenge?

789
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Why does it need trauma?

790
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:31.440
<v Speaker 2>They always need? They don't need it, but it establishes

791
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:32.440
<v Speaker 2>a horror film.

792
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:35.559
<v Speaker 1>Why in the restock does her sister have to get

793
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:40.639
<v Speaker 1>murdered by her boyfriend really doesn't like? What does that

794
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:43.320
<v Speaker 1>do when you're fighting a shark.

795
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:51.119
<v Speaker 2>A it. It adds nothing to it doesn't. It's not

796
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:56.559
<v Speaker 2>related to being a shark film. It's just a gut punch.

797
00:44:56.920 --> 00:45:00.559
<v Speaker 2>It's just you're watching it it. Yeah, that would be

798
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:04.159
<v Speaker 2>shocking in any film. I feel like any any film

799
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.840
<v Speaker 2>where like the characters were having a fun time and

800
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:09.079
<v Speaker 2>then the next scene one of them is is a

801
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:13.960
<v Speaker 2>victim of domestic abuse. There's no film like, Yeah, that

802
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.199
<v Speaker 2>makes sense. That's not Jerry.

803
00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Why did she have to set up a robbery? Jay?

804
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:25.679
<v Speaker 2>I got nothing market. It doesn't make any sense.

805
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:30.519
<v Speaker 1>This atoll arises when the water is at a certain point.

806
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:33.599
<v Speaker 1>These rocks will be covered soon, so it's a ticking

807
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:35.320
<v Speaker 1>clock to get to the jet ski.

808
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:37.559
<v Speaker 2>To get over two days.

809
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:40.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's get to right, Let's go from the rock

810
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:42.679
<v Speaker 1>to another rock to the jet ski and let's work

811
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>our way. We got to get to the jet ski

812
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:48.679
<v Speaker 1>because we could drive away on it.

813
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:54.559
<v Speaker 2>The phones in it, Yeah, the phones in it, the

814
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:55.280
<v Speaker 2>phones in it.

815
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:57.440
<v Speaker 1>And then that gets wiped out and then you drive

816
00:45:57.480 --> 00:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it and then you get on this but guess what,

817
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.159
<v Speaker 1>the water singings, what do we do? That'd be amazing

818
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:05.440
<v Speaker 1>if at the end of it, the atoll gets completely

819
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:08.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, submerged, and then the whales swims away.

820
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I just I also love that it's cursed. It's a

821
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:14.840
<v Speaker 2>cursed beach. It's a curse the toll, Like some stuff

822
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:17.519
<v Speaker 2>happened there, we don't know what, but it's cursed. A

823
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:20.400
<v Speaker 2>great okay.

824
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.440
<v Speaker 1>And then at the end, does she played cello again

825
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:25.039
<v Speaker 1>or she playing imagine that in her head?

826
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it was because it's cut between she's being

827
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:34.119
<v Speaker 2>airlifted out on the helicopter and then you see her

828
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:36.760
<v Speaker 2>playing the cello with one empty seat in the audience,

829
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:39.079
<v Speaker 2>and like, is that empty seat for Trish or for Chad,

830
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:41.079
<v Speaker 2>which one of the two people she's lost as such?

831
00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Is that one seat for and because one of them

832
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:47.960
<v Speaker 2>was supportive and gave her a cello necklace that almost

833
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:57.559
<v Speaker 2>killed her underwater? Uh? Yeah. I choose to believe that

834
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:00.760
<v Speaker 2>she makes it back and does play the yellow because

835
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:03.000
<v Speaker 2>that's a happier ending rather than just she's imagining it.

836
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:07.519
<v Speaker 2>And the empty emptc is of course for chat because

837
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:13.079
<v Speaker 2>Trisha killed him unintentionally, but still of the two, and

838
00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:16.039
<v Speaker 2>she goes to the murder victim rather than the murderer,

839
00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:19.679
<v Speaker 2>we're accomplice. It's crazy.

840
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Huh, how hard is it? You're just you're it's a

841
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:31.360
<v Speaker 1>good plot. Why do you need that? It's not even

842
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:33.599
<v Speaker 1>that important because then they're like they're kind of getting

843
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:34.360
<v Speaker 1>each other's backs.

844
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:40.440
<v Speaker 2>It's just something like dramatic tensions because there's not a

845
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:42.239
<v Speaker 2>lot of whale in the film, so you got to

846
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:43.239
<v Speaker 2>fill it with something else.

847
00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:47.239
<v Speaker 1>But to be fair too, like the Edge, they go

848
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:51.360
<v Speaker 1>on a plane trip, but Baldwin's sleeping with Anthony Hopkins's wife,

849
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:53.280
<v Speaker 1>and so there's tension there.

850
00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:56.639
<v Speaker 2>Why save that from Mamma Weir?

851
00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Why? I don't know. The Crawl doesn't have that, Like

852
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:04.679
<v Speaker 1>there's some estrangement, but they start working together and there's.

853
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:08.000
<v Speaker 2>A lot more there's a lot more gator in Crawl

854
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:10.320
<v Speaker 2>than there is whale in Killer Whale.

855
00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:12.519
<v Speaker 1>And I know, and don't get me started, Like that

856
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:14.519
<v Speaker 1>movie has like a thirteen million dollar budget, so it's

857
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>not big.

858
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:19.000
<v Speaker 2>That's probably more than this film. Mat Yeah, that's true,

859
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:21.199
<v Speaker 2>I guess, but.

860
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:26.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's an odd it's an odd one.

861
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Actors are good.

862
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:32.360
<v Speaker 2>What should this film have been called? Other than Killer Whale?

863
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Kill a Whale is a lazy title.

864
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:38.360
<v Speaker 1>It should be called The bull Shark River robbery. Wait,

865
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:38.719
<v Speaker 1>what is it?

866
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:40.800
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, river robbery.

867
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:46.199
<v Speaker 1>H Cello. The Whaling.

868
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:51.599
<v Speaker 2>I reviewed this simplue print review and I used the

869
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:57.239
<v Speaker 2>term bad friend mammoth mammalian marine mama. That's the term

870
00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:04.599
<v Speaker 2>I used to describe the whale. This movie's crazy. Sorry

871
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:10.320
<v Speaker 2>mammoth what mammoth mammalian marine mama. I don't know why

872
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I did that, but it made me laugh, so I

873
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:13.559
<v Speaker 2>kept it in.

874
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:17.559
<v Speaker 1>That's all you gotta do, Jay, and here we are

875
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:18.679
<v Speaker 1>and here we are.

876
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:23.360
<v Speaker 2>So do you think that the characters in Killer Whale

877
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:26.599
<v Speaker 2>are deeper than those in deepsy Well.

878
00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I think this movie is deeper in general because of

879
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:32.639
<v Speaker 1>the issue how it tackles it doesn't but the themes

880
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:36.480
<v Speaker 1>of Killer Whale is going insane. I think that's an

881
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:39.239
<v Speaker 1>interesting idea, and it's deeper. Deep Blue Sea doesn't have

882
00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:42.639
<v Speaker 1>much depth, so I think the idea of a real

883
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:45.880
<v Speaker 1>life situation is very interesting. So I'm saying it's a

884
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:46.480
<v Speaker 1>little deeper.

885
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think there is more character back story

886
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.840
<v Speaker 2>here in Deep we don't have a lot of you know,

887
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Carter and Susan haven't gone on a date. That's kind

888
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:03.639
<v Speaker 2>of the history that we have in Pussy. Yeah. I agree, Okay, bluer?

889
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Are they? Are they sadder than Deepussy? I feel like

890
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Maddie isn't living a happy life. She's living quite a

891
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:17.880
<v Speaker 2>sad life. Yeah, it's taken quite and the other way.

892
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:21.360
<v Speaker 1>The circumstances are quite set. She kills her boyfriend and

893
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:22.840
<v Speaker 1>then she takes her on a trip where she's probably

894
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:23.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna die.

895
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sure, she's been living with that guilt for a year.

896
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:29.679
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, I don't.

897
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think these characters, these characters don't really register

898
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:34.719
<v Speaker 1>as like cellist or anything, So I'm not going to

899
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:38.679
<v Speaker 1>say it's bluer, Okay, Like I think when Janice is

900
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:43.559
<v Speaker 1>depressed about Whitlock dying and like that hits hard, like

901
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:44.880
<v Speaker 1>this one doesn't have any of that.

902
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Is that the unhappiest moment Inde Bussy is Yeah? I

903
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:53.079
<v Speaker 2>think so? Yeah. When the when the door shuts and

904
00:50:54.000 --> 00:51:02.639
<v Speaker 2>she whales, she whales? Are they more sorry? They're more

905
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:05.679
<v Speaker 2>lost here? I think? Yeah, because they don't really know

906
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:09.519
<v Speaker 2>where they are. Josh knew where they were. Josh died, Yeah,

907
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Josh did dead.

908
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:14.079
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, okay, and when you know, when when she lies,

909
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:16.679
<v Speaker 1>when she reveals the truth, she's kind of just lost,

910
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, what I mean, she's like and she loses

911
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:20.559
<v Speaker 1>her compass and a friend.

912
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:26.440
<v Speaker 2>So and listeners, If this is your first time listening

913
00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:29.679
<v Speaker 2>to this show, welcome, because this is deep. We see

914
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:31.960
<v Speaker 2>the podcast every time we cover a new film, I

915
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 2>go through and I watch it again and determine how

916
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:37.679
<v Speaker 2>deep all the action takes place at, how blue everything

917
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:39.039
<v Speaker 2>on the screen is, and how much of it takes

918
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:43.559
<v Speaker 2>place at sea. Deep with sea is, of course, on average,

919
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:46.360
<v Speaker 2>approximately fourteen and a half meters of forty seven and

920
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:49.639
<v Speaker 2>a half feet deep, thirty percent blue, and about eighty

921
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.079
<v Speaker 2>nine percent of it takes place at sea. Mark. Do

922
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.440
<v Speaker 2>you think Killer Whale is deeper, bluer, and more at

923
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:55.320
<v Speaker 2>sea than deep?

924
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:59.039
<v Speaker 1>We see no, yes, no.

925
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Right, we've been doing this too long, so in terms

926
00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:08.559
<v Speaker 2>of depth, it's pretty much all on the surface. They

927
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:10.000
<v Speaker 2>go under a little bit, they go up a little bit.

928
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:15.840
<v Speaker 2>As this works out, being point one nine four meters,

929
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:18.199
<v Speaker 2>I've got to be that specific ero point six four

930
00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:20.400
<v Speaker 2>feet up in the air. I've got to be that

931
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:29.079
<v Speaker 2>specific because that is one millimeter higher than Orca, the

932
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:34.760
<v Speaker 2>other killer whale film we've done, oh man, the only

933
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:38.000
<v Speaker 2>other killer whale film we've done. They are next to

934
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:40.519
<v Speaker 2>each other. This is now seventy first in the ranking,

935
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:44.480
<v Speaker 2>and Orca is seventieth and it is a couple of

936
00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:50.039
<v Speaker 2>centimeters lower than the Racan or from below the Racken Racan.

937
00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:52.519
<v Speaker 2>We never quite good to have that.

938
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:53.079
<v Speaker 1>Movie is great.

939
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:56.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good one. Blueness, It is blue and deeper.

940
00:52:56.719 --> 00:52:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Seed is fifty three point nine percent blue, so it

941
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:02.039
<v Speaker 2>is bluer than the last Shark, less blue than Avatar

942
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:05.119
<v Speaker 2>The Way of Water. It is eleventh in our blue ranking,

943
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.880
<v Speaker 2>so very blue, very blue, given that we've done a

944
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:13.719
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty nine films at this point. Wow, and

945
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:16.239
<v Speaker 2>see it is at sea quite a bit, but not

946
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:18.320
<v Speaker 2>as much as you see A sixty one point three

947
00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:20.960
<v Speaker 2>percent of it is at sea, which is so it's

948
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:24.440
<v Speaker 2>more at sea than Shark Attack three Megalodon and less

949
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:26.320
<v Speaker 2>at sea. It's next to it again, doesn't see an

950
00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Orca aucus sixty three point three three, so it's adjacent

951
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:31.480
<v Speaker 2>to Walker in two different columns on our graph twenty

952
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:38.440
<v Speaker 2>first film at sea on the ranking. That's that's Killer Whale.

953
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:42.159
<v Speaker 2>As I said, I have reviewed it over at Blueprint Review.

954
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:44.000
<v Speaker 2>If you want to read some of these thoughts as

955
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:46.480
<v Speaker 2>well as having listened to them go do that over

956
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:49.440
<v Speaker 2>at Blueprint review dot co dot UK. Mark, do you

957
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:50.280
<v Speaker 2>have anything you're a plug?

958
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Ah? Yeah, got a good movie. I did a thing

959
00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:57.599
<v Speaker 1>for Chase Serrano and then movie songs and flicks podcast.

960
00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Nice is it? And you can follow this show all

961
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:04.320
<v Speaker 2>over social media at deep Blue Sea pod or email

962
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:08.159
<v Speaker 2>us deep Pod at gmail not at gmail dot com.

963
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Next week, wouldn't you know it's a chapter on deep

964
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:12.920
<v Speaker 2>the Shark blows up. We've got to the sharp Bloor.

965
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:19.639
<v Speaker 2>That's a fun episode. Simon Apleton back as a guest

966
00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:21.880
<v Speaker 2>on that one. We had a fun time with him.

967
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.880
<v Speaker 2>To come back next week for that, and then we're

968
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:29.800
<v Speaker 2>back to reptiles the week after. And who knows, Deep

969
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:32.559
<v Speaker 2>Water might get UK released at some point and then

970
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:37.360
<v Speaker 2>we'll cover it then. Still waiting, ready, still waiting. But

971
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:40.280
<v Speaker 2>as for look, I want to see the film, Mark,

972
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:43.199
<v Speaker 2>let me see this film.

973
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I love at the end when I.

974
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:53.599
<v Speaker 2>Would be so annoyed it's been out for like three

975
00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:57.119
<v Speaker 2>weeks or something. Anyway, I'll see it sometimes hopefully so Yeah.

976
00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:01.519
<v Speaker 2>But as for Killer Whale, I have been Jake Lute.

977
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:02.920
<v Speaker 1>And I'm a calf fire.

978
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:05.280
<v Speaker 2>I will Deep Blue see you next week