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<v Speaker 1>All right, joining us now. It's always a pleasure to

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<v Speaker 1>have Eric on. Eric Peters of Eric Peters autos dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>He talks about mobility and liberty and these are things

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody needs, whether they realize it or not. They

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<v Speaker 1>need to have private transportation. Good to have you on, Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks thanks for coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me on, David and preemptive Merry Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>to you and your family.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you, thank you. Uh yeah, we were just

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<v Speaker 1>talking off air about the Partons. What were you what's

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<v Speaker 1>your take on all of this stuff about uh Luigi

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<v Speaker 1>and the things that are happening there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a lot of it that's fascinating to channel

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<v Speaker 2>my inner mister Spock. One of them is the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the the juxtaposition between the way Luigi has been lionized

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<v Speaker 2>in some quarters and the way the Daniel Penny, the

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<v Speaker 2>man who intervened to prevent a serial violent criminal from

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<v Speaker 2>attacking people again, was treated and charged, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>painted as some sort of a villain and of course

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<v Speaker 2>naturally a racist because the criminal that he intervened to

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<v Speaker 2>prevent from hurting people just happen to be black, so

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<v Speaker 2>naturally that makes him a racist.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, and I talked about that very thing yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>At first I talked about you know, Luigi, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about Daniel Perry, and it truly is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, during the I didn't follow this as it

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<v Speaker 1>was going. I didn't report on it because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't typically do that on a criminal trials and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is there in process. But during the process it

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<v Speaker 1>came out that it was actually the cops who let

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<v Speaker 1>him die. You know, he's still alive when they got there,

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<v Speaker 1>and they chose.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't want to keep them exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So, but well, you know, they didn't bring any charges

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<v Speaker 1>against them. It was all about race, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>all about race because of Alvin Bragg, the Soros District attorney.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, when you look at this guy, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a credible threat, been rested forty two times. They

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<v Speaker 1>had a warrant out for his arrest because he'd beaten

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<v Speaker 1>up a sixty seven year old woman and he jumps

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<v Speaker 1>on the thing and he starts threatening to kill people.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't just Daniel Perry. It was a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of other guys, one of them was black, who subdued him.

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<v Speaker 1>It is crazy isn't it. But that is New York,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll come after I Actually I'm encouraged because in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>in New York City, a jury acquitted in yeah, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a remarkable thing. I think New Yorkers, as blue

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<v Speaker 2>as New York is, have gotten tired of being accosted

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<v Speaker 2>by violent criminals when they're trying to get to work

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<v Speaker 2>riding the subway.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, enough is enough, That's right, that's absolutely That's

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<v Speaker 1>a great point that even in New York they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get that. So I think people are getting tired of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're really tired of the Soros district attorneys

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<v Speaker 1>who want to turn a blind eye to real crime

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<v Speaker 1>and to come after everybody for non crimes. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>really a big part of that with Alvin Bragg and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's talk a little bit about automobiles because things

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of turning your way. We've got GM has

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<v Speaker 1>now shutting down. It's Cruise robo taxi operations, Mary Bera,

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<v Speaker 1>that you've talked about before. The CEO her vision of

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<v Speaker 1>transforming GM into a tech driven company with fifty billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars from Cruise now seems to be distant, is a

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<v Speaker 1>polite way to put it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, reality bites sometimes, doesn't it. Just a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks ago, the CEO of the European combine Stilantis,

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<v Speaker 2>whose name is Carlos Tavares, was fired. He was pushed

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<v Speaker 2>out of his position because things are absolutely disastrous for

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<v Speaker 2>Stilantis right now, and particularly for Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and

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<v Speaker 2>Ram Trucks, which are the formerly American brands that were

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<v Speaker 2>bought out by Stilantis a number of years ago and

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<v Speaker 2>which were successful. But under Tavares, they really went whole

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<v Speaker 2>hog in on this ev thing, and they canceled all

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<v Speaker 2>of their popular models and their popular engines, and they

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<v Speaker 2>tried to push these electric things on people, and people

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<v Speaker 2>don't want them. They're not buying them. Of the federal

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<v Speaker 2>government coming in and eliminating all of the alternatives, which

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to do, by the way, but people still

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<v Speaker 2>do have the option of not buying a battery powered

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<v Speaker 2>vehicle or a hybrid vehicle which is a partially electric people,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're not Why would they, It just doesn't make

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<v Speaker 2>sense for most people. So, you know, now these dealers

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<v Speaker 2>are stuck with all of this inventory that they can't sell,

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<v Speaker 2>and some of the brands, like Chrysler, this is how

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<v Speaker 2>bad it is. Chrysler has a minivan. That's it. It

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<v Speaker 2>has one vehicle in its entire lineup, a minivan and Dodge,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, which, which used to be kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>rock Star brand because of the Charger and the Challenger.

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<v Speaker 2>Now all it has is this little crossover called the Hornet,

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<v Speaker 2>which isn't a bad car, there's nothing wrong with it,

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<v Speaker 2>but people generally don't go to Dodge to buy little crossovers,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, They'll be a Toyota or Honda for a

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<v Speaker 2>vehicle like that. And so the other only other vehicle

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<v Speaker 2>that they currently have in their lineup that is at

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<v Speaker 2>all desirable is the Durango, which is a holdover. And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, that's the last twenty twenty five model

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<v Speaker 2>that you can get under the Dodge or Chrysler brands,

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<v Speaker 2>or even the Jeep brands. That's still available with the

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<v Speaker 2>Hemiva and the supercharge version, the Helpcat version of it.

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<v Speaker 2>They still have that. But the take home point is

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<v Speaker 2>they've got basically two cars in their inventory. Imagine being

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<v Speaker 2>a dealer trying to entice customers and you have no inventory,

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<v Speaker 2>except for the inventory that people don't want. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you know they're about to bring out this this this device.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'd like to refer to electric vehicles as

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<v Speaker 2>call the charger, which you need.

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<v Speaker 1>To charge the charger were either it's advertising slogan the

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<v Speaker 1>charger that needs a charge?

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<v Speaker 2>About that, right, you know? And the same problem is

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<v Speaker 2>besetting Jaguar, Mercedes and all of these other brandsers. And

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<v Speaker 2>I told them off the record, people in the companies, Look, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>what you're trying to do here is to make basically

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<v Speaker 2>another Tesla with your badge on it. And what's the

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<v Speaker 2>point of that. You know, you're basically eviscerating everything that

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<v Speaker 2>made your brand something other than a Tesla.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, the Jaguar thing is just so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like a pink air conditioner, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, well now it looks sort of like a I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, like an early two thousands Chrysler Crossfire somebody

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<v Speaker 2>stepped on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, from from the front and from the side, from

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<v Speaker 1>the back, it looks like an air conditioning unit.

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<v Speaker 2>And so tone deaf, you know, you were talking earlier

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<v Speaker 2>before we got on here about you this woke mind

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<v Speaker 2>virus as Elon Musk calls it, and he's right about that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's actually a really good term. Uh that afflicts these

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<v Speaker 2>car companies. You saw that ad that Jaguar put out

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of It's another training show, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>story time. If you didn't know it was ostensibly for

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<v Speaker 2>a car brand, you would look at that and go,

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<v Speaker 2>what what what's that all about? You know, they really

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<v Speaker 2>do believe, I think, in their minds that this is

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<v Speaker 2>somehow going to promote and prompt people to go to

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<v Speaker 2>a Jaguar store and buy one of their their devices.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's delusional.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a real twist on the idea of a drag race,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? So I just see these people in dragging you

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<v Speaker 1>race to the store to get one of these overprized

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<v Speaker 2>It's all very sad because Jaguar was one of those

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<v Speaker 2>brands that was extraordinarily passionate. Liones, who was the founder

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<v Speaker 2>of Jaguar, said that a car is the closest thing

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<v Speaker 2>that will ever make to something that is alive, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was absolutely right about that. You know, the evocativeness

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<v Speaker 2>of the early designs, like a Jaguar E type. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that thing. It's just one of the sexiest cars

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<v Speaker 2>ever conceived and made available.

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<v Speaker 1>And even there's brother had had a twelve cylinder Jaguar

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<v Speaker 1>at one point. He bought it youth.

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<v Speaker 2>He pretty so magnificent that even though they weren't the

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<v Speaker 2>most reliable vehicles. Somebody once quipped that a Jaguar on

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<v Speaker 2>a lift is better than most other cars on the

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<v Speaker 2>road because they were so beautiful just to look at.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was a kid, one of my one of

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<v Speaker 2>my friends, his dad had an exj Sedan, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and we would go and pop the hood and just

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<v Speaker 2>look at the engine. It was. It was just a

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<v Speaker 2>just a really provocative and gorgeous thing that got you

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<v Speaker 2>interested in the car, that it was special, it was

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<v Speaker 2>something different, and they've just completely frittered that away.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah. I used to be Jeremy Clarkson with

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<v Speaker 1>the top gear guys. You know, he's not a jat jack,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And he would talk about on the movies,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd give the Jaguars to the bad guys, especially the

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<v Speaker 1>Bond movies. The Jags would go to the bad guys

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<v Speaker 1>and the Aston Martin would go to a Bond or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it still had this real presence, that had

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<v Speaker 1>this real personality, and now it's got a drag personality,

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<v Speaker 1>not the kind you would want in an automotive.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the sue is because they've dissipated the what

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<v Speaker 2>would be a good way to put this, the the

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<v Speaker 2>ethnic identity. You know, Jag was a British brand, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it got sold off to TATSA. No offense to Tatsa,

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<v Speaker 2>no offense to Indians, but they're not Brits, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, now they turned the brand into this sort

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<v Speaker 2>of drifting, anomaloust thing that really doesn't have any identity

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<v Speaker 2>any longer. Yeah, it's this is everywhere. You know, Harley

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<v Speaker 2>Davidson is now run by this woke German guy. You

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<v Speaker 2>think a woke German guy understands anything about you know, Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>and Harley Davidson's he doesn't. So you know, he's pushing

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<v Speaker 2>these electric bikes and the idea that a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>likes a Harley is going to want an electric scooter

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what it is, an electric motorcycle, is a

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<v Speaker 2>contradiction in terms if it doesn't have an engine, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a scooter. An engine defines what a motorcycle is. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know they're just running these these companies into the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wrote an article a couple of weeks ago

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<v Speaker 2>about there's no consequences for this. To get back to

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<v Speaker 2>Carlos Tavares, I think he was paid forty million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>for the last year, that full year that he was

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<v Speaker 2>CEO of Stlantis, So you know, the consequence for him

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<v Speaker 2>is a cushy retirement. You know, if you or I

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<v Speaker 2>are and competent, if we are slipshot, if we don't

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<v Speaker 2>do a good job, anybody, you know, any ordinary person,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're an incompetent plumber, an incompetent electrician, there are consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you lose work, you lose money, you're probably

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<v Speaker 2>going to lose your house. But you know, we've gotten

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<v Speaker 2>to a point in this country where some of these

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<v Speaker 2>CEOs are paid regardless of performance, and they're paid to

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<v Speaker 2>such an extent that it's it's it's obscene. You know

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<v Speaker 2>that you can get forty million dollars a.

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<v Speaker 1>Year to destroy a contract.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not performing. It's performing. You're you're you're destroying

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<v Speaker 2>the company and you're being compensated, And you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel so terrible for these people who are good people

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah. I don't keep up with the evolving

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<v Speaker 1>financial ownership of these different companies. Stillantis, what was their background,

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<v Speaker 2>Or was it just created or no, it's you know

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, So Pouja and Renaud merged to become within.

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<v Speaker 2>To Cron is part of that family. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean, there's nothing wrong with Puga's or Citrons

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<v Speaker 1>You know, well, I've owned a Pugo, I would I

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<v Speaker 2>Is profoundly different. You know, how would the people who

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<v Speaker 2>so on, which is partially true at the point.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot about it that, right, there's nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrong with that, right, and that was part of the

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<v Speaker 2>cars different, you know, you and I. I mean there

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<v Speaker 2>was immediately obvious what the difference was. Now they're kind

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<v Speaker 2>the same, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Imagine a company that has a product line that

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<v Speaker 1>ranges from the dukes of hazards general lead to a citron.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>What a crazy combination of the stuff that is. And

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<v Speaker 1>as you point out, that's really is a cultural issue.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the British cars and Jaguar and that

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<v Speaker 1>type of thing. I remember, you know, the cheap sports

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<v Speaker 1>a Spitfire, you know. But the spitfires and the mgs

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<v Speaker 1>It was this rawness, this unreliability, but it was all

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<v Speaker 1>of this wood did They had a big personality, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a wood dash ten teeny tiny little car and all

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of this stuff. All of that was part

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<v Speaker 1>of the personality. In the same way that a Dodge

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<v Speaker 1>also a kind of personality as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oldmoda had a way.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know something else that we flurried away. I

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<v Speaker 2>just wrote an article about this the other day. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a it's an interesting kind of an etymological shift. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>when there were economy cars, Oh yeah, you never hear

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<v Speaker 2>that term you used it anymore. That's been replaced by

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<v Speaker 2>entry level and the distinction is important. You cannot buy

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<v Speaker 2>a car, I'm pretty sure any longer a twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five mile of your car in this country for less

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<v Speaker 2>than twenty thousand dollars. They pretty much pulled all of

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<v Speaker 2>the economy cars off the market and at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>while there are a handful of economy cars or economical cars,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say, like a good example being a Toyota

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<v Speaker 2>Corolla hybrid. It gets fifty something miles per gallon, but

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<v Speaker 2>the buying cost is much higher because now you're paying

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<v Speaker 2>for this hybrid technology to do things that just an

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<v Speaker 2>engine could do forty years ago. I referenced the Chavette

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<v Speaker 2>of the early eighties, which was available with the diesel. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I know people will laugh, and back in the day

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<v Speaker 2>people mocked the Chavette because it took what probably sixty

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<v Speaker 2>seconds to get to sixty and its top speed wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>much higher than that, but it was dirt cheap, and

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<v Speaker 2>in addition to that, it was incredibly cheap to drive

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<v Speaker 2>because it got fifty five miles per gallon. Wow, and

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<v Speaker 2>diesel fuel at that time costs less than gasoline. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all gone now, all of the affordable entry level kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of cars, our economy cars, are no longer extant in

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh that's absolutely true. Matter of if I think

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<v Speaker 1>got a thing here, this is put out by not

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<v Speaker 1>the Bee. They said America is a driving old cars

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<v Speaker 1>than ever. Nobody can afford to maintain them. Thirty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>the average passenger car was about eight point four years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Today that is thirteen point six. You know, Eric, I

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<v Speaker 1>can remember when I was in high school, like fifty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, Volvo had an ad campaign talking about, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the average age of a car in Sweden

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<v Speaker 1>is eleven years and they show a picture of a

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<v Speaker 1>Volvo because you know, we're so reliable and all this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. And I used to say to people

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, I said, anything to do with rlie building,

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<v Speaker 1>it has to do with socialism. They can't afford a

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<v Speaker 1>new car. You know. We we were changing out cars,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, after like you know, three to five years.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it was that Americans were switching out their cars,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, part of it was or that they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't made that well. But the Volvos weren't made that

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<v Speaker 1>much better either. It was really that the people couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>afford to do it, because people weren't keeping the Volvos.

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<v Speaker 1>Not long in the US. But now we got a

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<v Speaker 1>situation where it's at thirteen point six years. And as

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<v Speaker 1>they point out this thing, it's because of inflation, it's

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<v Speaker 1>because of higher interest rates, it's because of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other things, but it's really the government of inflation

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<v Speaker 1>and the government expenses because of regulations adding on all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of unnecessary bells and whistles as you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>And they got a picture of a of a truck. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see what model truck is this. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>Silverado twenty twenty four Silverado EV Crew Cab one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and four thousand, two hundred and ninety one dollars. Or

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<v Speaker 1>you can get it for just thirteen hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a month financing. I can remember and date myself here,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is, this is the ravages of inflation. My

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<v Speaker 1>sister is a good bit older than I am. They

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<v Speaker 1>got married nineteen sixty nine. They got a house like

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<v Speaker 1>the mid seventies, before the big inflation kicked in at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the seventies, and they got in at

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<v Speaker 1>about what was the median price of a home at

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<v Speaker 1>that time, which is twenty five thousand dollars. Now you

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<v Speaker 2>You can't get an for that anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you can't get a truck for that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere close to it. But it's amazing and that again

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<v Speaker 1>is all government inflation, government regulation that is pushing this

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've got another one for you that bears on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I have an O two Nissan Frontier I think you

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<v Speaker 2>and I have talked about it, which is a little

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<v Speaker 2>compact cup truck, pretty basic when it was new. When

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<v Speaker 2>it was new, its sticker price was just shy thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars. Well, I got to thinking about the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four Toyota high Lux Champ, which I think you

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<v Speaker 2>and I have discussed. Yea, yet buy it in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>You can buy it outside of the United States, and

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<v Speaker 2>it costs thirteen thousand dollars. Now here's where it gets

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to me. I plugged my thirteen thousand dollars original

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<v Speaker 2>sticker price from my two Frontier into the Bureau of

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<v Speaker 2>Labor Statistics calculator to find out what that would be

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<v Speaker 2>today in today's inflated dollars. And it turns out it's

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty three thousand dollars today, which would still be

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<v Speaker 2>inexpensive for a new truck in this country. However, my

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<v Speaker 2>truck is very similar to the high Lux, both basic

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<v Speaker 2>for someone manual transmission basic trucks, except the high Lux

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<v Speaker 2>is ten thousand dollars less than real dollars. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>a measure of our impoverishment, you know, in order to

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<v Speaker 2>get something comparable to what you could buy back in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and two for about thirteen thousand dollars today,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, assuming you even could you if they allows

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<v Speaker 2>you to buy the high Lux, you know, you're paying

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<v Speaker 2>essentially that much more to get it. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's obscene, and I do my best to make

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<v Speaker 2>people aware of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're paying ten thousand dollars in regulatory costs about Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as mandates and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, And they gaslight people by portraying for They

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<v Speaker 2>say the high Lux is unsafe, and what that means

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<v Speaker 2>is that it's not compliant with whatever the jot NENTITTL

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<v Speaker 2>is of the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Code as it

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<v Speaker 2>exists pertaining to twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>model year vehicle. So what does that mean. Well, that

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<v Speaker 2>means it doesn't have six airbags. It doesn't mean it's

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<v Speaker 2>an uncontrollable leap. It doesn't mean it's prone to crash.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, heck, even that you know, the eighty two

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<v Speaker 2>metro that we were talking about a moment ago. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>that be considered unsafe today too, as far as the

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<v Speaker 2>regulatory standard school, but millions of people drove them and

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't die in them, you know. I mean, granted,

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't have six airbags, you know, and it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have all of these bells and whistles and advanced driver

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<v Speaker 2>assistance technologies that they now require a vehicle to have.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're paying through the nose for it, and ironically,

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of ways, I think arguably we've gotten

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<v Speaker 2>to a point where a lot of these safety things

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<v Speaker 2>are making cars less safe. They're the visit sunds. You

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<v Speaker 2>and I have talked about that, and and they're encouraging

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<v Speaker 2>a passivity and recklessness, in my opinion on the part

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<v Speaker 2>of the drivers who have They're habituating people to not

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<v Speaker 2>be responsible for controlling the car. Because, after all, though

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<v Speaker 2>I have lane keep assists, I have automated emergency braking,

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<v Speaker 2>I have all these things, so I can peck at

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<v Speaker 2>my screen on the you know, on the dashboard, and

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<v Speaker 2>I can check my email, and I can play music

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<v Speaker 2>and even watch videos instead of paying attention to my

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<v Speaker 2>driving and not following the car ahead of me too

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<v Speaker 2>closely and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I absolutely hate that lane keep assistance. I've had

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<v Speaker 1>died on some rental cars, and I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>an accident waiting to have an in and of itself.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're right these types of things, and we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>this in the past when they put any like breaking

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on. It didn't help with the accident rate. As

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<v Speaker 1>you point out, it just adjust people's behavior. They want

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<v Speaker 1>you to be less responsible. You look at the way

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<v Speaker 1>they move the Overton window with all the stimulus checks

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<v Speaker 1>and all the rest of this stuff. It's all about

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<v Speaker 1>a pacification program of people in the West, and that

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<v Speaker 1>really is what this is about. You know, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about earlier, you mentioned Stilantis and the CEO there.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that he's gone, there's a lot of people there

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<v Speaker 1>that are talking about, you know, the things that he

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<v Speaker 1>did wrong. They wouldn't say it while he was still

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<v Speaker 1>there because they get fired. But a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>said everybody wanted to keep the HEMI, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely determined to get rid of it. And so some

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<v Speaker 1>of them are saying, asking will the V eight will

420
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<v Speaker 1>him me come back? What do you think will they

421
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<v Speaker 1>bring back on a new management.

422
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<v Speaker 2>I think it could. And the reason that I say

423
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<v Speaker 2>that is because they are still making the Durango with

424
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<v Speaker 2>the V eight, which means they're still making the V eight.

425
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<v Speaker 2>They have not yet gotten rid of the tooling and

426
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<v Speaker 2>everything that is necessary to make that engine, so they

427
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<v Speaker 2>could simply ramp things up again. You know, I've seen

428
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<v Speaker 2>the new a charger device, you know, the replacement for

429
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<v Speaker 2>the old charger and Challenger. It's a good looking car.

430
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<v Speaker 1>You know.

431
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<v Speaker 2>They did a really fine job with the styling of

432
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<v Speaker 2>the you know, this electric charger that they've got on deck.

433
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<v Speaker 2>And if they were to put the V eight in

434
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<v Speaker 2>that thing, I think it would sell like gangbusters, particularly

435
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<v Speaker 2>if they priced reasonably.

436
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I look at the money they could say from

437
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<v Speaker 1>imitating the sound of a V eight.

438
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<v Speaker 2>Not to mention the self respect, I mean, that's it's

439
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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, I never talked to Steve Caniskus, who's

440
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<v Speaker 2>gone now. Caniscus was the guy at Dodge that was

441
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<v Speaker 2>largely responsible for the renaissance of the muscle car and

442
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<v Speaker 2>all of the stuff with the with the Hemi and

443
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<v Speaker 2>the Hellcats and all of that, and that poor guy,

444
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<v Speaker 2>you know, he left just after remember the Super Bowl ad,

445
00:20:56.319 --> 00:20:58.359
<v Speaker 2>you know where you know he there was this elaborate

446
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<v Speaker 2>ad showing the new elector charger and the sound that

447
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<v Speaker 2>was made. And Aye, my god, I don't know what

448
00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:06.640
<v Speaker 2>they paid him to do that head, but it cost

449
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<v Speaker 2>him to self respect, I'm sure. I mean, I can't

450
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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine having been a party to that.

451
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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, well it is. It is a farce,

452
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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. It truly is a matter of fact that

453
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<v Speaker 1>Handy says, Hey, Eric, my mom has a sixty three

454
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<v Speaker 1>sports Roadster Thunderbird. He says, it's beautiful. Yeah, that was

455
00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:26.799
<v Speaker 1>the thing, you know, it used to be, as you

456
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<v Speaker 1>point out many times you said, yeah, it's been a

457
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<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, anadized. All the styling and everything

458
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<v Speaker 1>used to have real styling with these things and uglified.

459
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<v Speaker 2>You know, there was a book I read years ago.

460
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<v Speaker 2>I think it's called The Architecture of Doom, and it

461
00:21:40.519 --> 00:21:43.400
<v Speaker 2>was about the Nazis and it was about these brutalist

462
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<v Speaker 2>buildings that the Nazis will put together, and the Soviets

463
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<v Speaker 2>did the same thing. All of these these totalitarian regimes,

464
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<v Speaker 2>they uglify everything, and our our regeat It really is

465
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<v Speaker 2>true there was a time when when public buildings they

466
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<v Speaker 2>at least tried to make them look attractive. Now, you know,

467
00:21:58.920 --> 00:22:01.640
<v Speaker 2>they look they have this this sort of Bauhause industrial

468
00:22:01.799 --> 00:22:05.200
<v Speaker 2>awful almost Auschwitze, and look to them, and the same

469
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<v Speaker 2>is true. You know, the same is true with cars.

470
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<v Speaker 2>They're repellent. You know a lot of them have these

471
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<v Speaker 2>gaping cat fish faces and you know the overaught, super

472
00:22:12.720 --> 00:22:14.920
<v Speaker 2>hyper macho look of the trucks. And I know some

473
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<v Speaker 2>people like that, but it's really difficult to find a

474
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<v Speaker 2>car that makes you smile anymore. That's what you look

475
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<v Speaker 2>at it and go, you know, wow, man, that's that's

476
00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:24.799
<v Speaker 2>just a great looking car. That's that's that's a piece

477
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<v Speaker 2>of art. I'd like to have that in my living room. Yeah,

478
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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'd love to have a jet or type

479
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<v Speaker 2>in my living room.

480
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or on the left either way. Yeah, yeah, it is. Uh.

481
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<v Speaker 1>We talk about the architecture, the brutalist architecture. That's the

482
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<v Speaker 1>thing I really hate. I went to the University of

483
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<v Speaker 1>South Faria that I went to open up like in

484
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<v Speaker 1>the early sixties or late fifties or something, and so

485
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<v Speaker 1>it's all this mid century brutalist architecture, which is just

486
00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:51.880
<v Speaker 1>raw concrete. You know, the buildings that I went to

487
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<v Speaker 1>class and from the outside that looked like a really

488
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<v Speaker 1>cheap imitation of a castle or something, you know, just

489
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<v Speaker 1>very uninvited, very unappealing, just awful and institutional looking. And

490
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<v Speaker 1>that's the kind of stuff that we have now produced

491
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<v Speaker 1>in our society. Is Roger Scrutin did a great series

492
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<v Speaker 1>about the importance of beauty. You know, you're talking about architecture,

493
00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:14.319
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about art, he's talking about music and how

494
00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:18.319
<v Speaker 1>all these things have been trashed. The word of the

495
00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:21.319
<v Speaker 1>year and I'll just put this out there warning for

496
00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:24.839
<v Speaker 1>the kids was a term that they developed called in

497
00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:30.880
<v Speaker 1>shitification that what is happening to everything, whether it's how

498
00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:34.799
<v Speaker 1>a device works or what something looks like, that pretty

499
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<v Speaker 1>much encapsulates it right there.

500
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<v Speaker 2>It's not elevating, it's not inspiring. It instills despair and sadness,

501
00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:45.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it gives you the sense of hopelessness,

502
00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:48.599
<v Speaker 2>and you know, this is not a healthy thing. And

503
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<v Speaker 2>the people who who are driving this, I'm you know,

504
00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm increasingly persuaded that they're malicious. There's something wrong with them,

505
00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:57.960
<v Speaker 2>and you know they are trying to just tear everything

506
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<v Speaker 2>down for the sake of it. It's a nihilist evil

507
00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:03.039
<v Speaker 2>even mindset.

508
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<v Speaker 1>I agree. Well, you know, when we look at the

509
00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the the idea of Antonio Gramsey, they're going to march

510
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<v Speaker 1>through the institutions. You know, he said, instead of us

511
00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:15.720
<v Speaker 1>fighting it out in the streets with a revolution like

512
00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that in Europe over class and that type of thing,

513
00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:20.359
<v Speaker 1>we need to take over the institutions from the top down.

514
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<v Speaker 1>And you know, over the years you and I have

515
00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:24.920
<v Speaker 1>talked about this. I really do believe that these people,

516
00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:30.119
<v Speaker 1>like this newly departed Stlantis CEO, were fully in on

517
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:34.319
<v Speaker 1>the game and they were willing to sacrifice their companies

518
00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I think for this political agenda. I think some of

519
00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:41.160
<v Speaker 1>the stockholders and other people had a different idea, And

520
00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, it seemed to me like their endgame was

521
00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:47.400
<v Speaker 1>that they were going to be one of the last

522
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<v Speaker 1>one or two the be standing that they would be

523
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<v Speaker 1>a favorite of a government either in France or in

524
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<v Speaker 1>the United States or Germany or something like that, and

525
00:24:55.480 --> 00:25:00.400
<v Speaker 1>they'd be given the concession to run the autonomous cars,

526
00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:03.160
<v Speaker 1>which looks like that's what Elon Musk is going for.

527
00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:07.279
<v Speaker 1>But I think this they they the words of George W. Bush.

528
00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:10.759
<v Speaker 1>They misunderestimated the contempt the American people for their plan,

529
00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and they're going to go out of business before they

530
00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:13.839
<v Speaker 1>could make that happen.

531
00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:16.480
<v Speaker 2>They have a mercenary mindset. You know, you could put

532
00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:18.599
<v Speaker 2>these same people in charge of a toothpaste company and

533
00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:21.240
<v Speaker 2>it would be the same thing. And you know, if

534
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:24.440
<v Speaker 2>you look at the automobile industry in the past, when

535
00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:27.000
<v Speaker 2>it was when it was successful and it was something

536
00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:29.519
<v Speaker 2>that made people feel good, you had people like Sir

537
00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:32.519
<v Speaker 2>William Lyyant in charge of who loved cars, and you

538
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:35.319
<v Speaker 2>had people are we okay.

539
00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:37.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well okay, it's just telling hand there. It was

540
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>a comment that disappeared and so okay, go ahead. Yeah.

541
00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:43.039
<v Speaker 2>And you know the founder of Toyota, you know, this

542
00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:46.640
<v Speaker 2>was a guy who really loved the vehicle and believed

543
00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:48.440
<v Speaker 2>in it, and for him it was a family concern,

544
00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:50.839
<v Speaker 2>you know. And a year or so ago they edged

545
00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:53.599
<v Speaker 2>out Akio Toyota, who was the grandson of the founder.

546
00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:55.880
<v Speaker 2>And you know, he had the guts actually to come out,

547
00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:58.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, when it wasn't popular and to say that

548
00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:02.319
<v Speaker 2>this push to these devices, this this this bums rush

549
00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:04.960
<v Speaker 2>to electrify everything is going to be the end of

550
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:08.039
<v Speaker 2>the company, and you know, good on him for doing that,

551
00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:10.759
<v Speaker 2>for standing up at the time that it was appropriate

552
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:12.559
<v Speaker 2>to do that. They are now beginning to come around.

553
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:14.839
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned Mazda. You know, Mazda, you know, was very,

554
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.160
<v Speaker 2>to use the word hesitant about increasing all of this

555
00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:19.319
<v Speaker 2>electrification stuff.

556
00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:21.160
<v Speaker 1>They were dragging their feet more than anybody.

557
00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're smart on that part. Yeah, because they have

558
00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:29.079
<v Speaker 2>not committed massive resources to failure as all of these

559
00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:31.759
<v Speaker 2>other car companies have, which has been just completely disastrous.

560
00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Volkswagen and Nissan are on the verge of flowing out

561
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:36.880
<v Speaker 2>of business because of all of the money that they've

562
00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:39.960
<v Speaker 2>lost on pushing these electric cars. Board is not much

563
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:42.519
<v Speaker 2>better off, and General Motors isn't a bad way too.

564
00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:45.319
<v Speaker 2>You know, this is a cancer that has been metastasizing

565
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:46.960
<v Speaker 2>across the entire industry.

566
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:50.240
<v Speaker 1>And we've had our rhino governor here, Bill Lee, and Tennessee,

567
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:53.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, gave all kinds of money to forward to

568
00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:57.279
<v Speaker 1>do a electric plant, just as it's all circling the

569
00:26:57.319 --> 00:26:58.160
<v Speaker 1>drain and going down.

570
00:26:58.319 --> 00:26:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

571
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<v Speaker 1>The Masda CEO had made some statements. He said the

572
00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:07.559
<v Speaker 1>range extending version of the rotary engine is only offered

573
00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:09.640
<v Speaker 1>in certain markets and this is something you've talked about

574
00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:11.759
<v Speaker 1>before in the past. What was it, Chevy Bolt? I

575
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>think that had a gasoline engine that was just there

576
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:19.160
<v Speaker 1>to charge the battery. But otherwise it's fully electric drive.

577
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>And you know, that would have been a perfect utilization

578
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>for the Mazda rotary engines. This is so compact, wouldn't.

579
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, compact and efficient, you know, and operates at a

580
00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:31.400
<v Speaker 2>steady speed and its only purpose is to generate electricity

581
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:33.119
<v Speaker 2>to feed the battery. And that's you know, that's not

582
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:35.880
<v Speaker 2>necessarily a bad idea. Yeah, the volt was a practical

583
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>electric car, which of course is interesting. That's why they

584
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:41.039
<v Speaker 2>don't make it anymore, because it was actually practical. And

585
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:42.799
<v Speaker 2>you note that, you know, the latest thing that the

586
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:44.680
<v Speaker 2>engineer is. Boy, you feel bad for these guys, or

587
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:46.240
<v Speaker 2>at least idea the work that they have to do

588
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:48.720
<v Speaker 2>to try to figure out ways to kind of end

589
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 2>run and get around everything that the government throws at them.

590
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 2>They came up with this idea of the plug in

591
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:57.720
<v Speaker 2>hybrid to deal with these electric car mandates. And of

592
00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:00.720
<v Speaker 2>course Michael redguard rig and the guy who's currently in

593
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:04.599
<v Speaker 2>charge of the EPA, was bemoaning the fact that people

594
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:06.559
<v Speaker 2>aren't plugging these things in. In other words, they're not

595
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:08.759
<v Speaker 2>tethering them to the core, which is from their point

596
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:11.799
<v Speaker 2>of use, a problem as opposed to know, people just

597
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:12.920
<v Speaker 2>want to get in their cars and.

598
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Drive, well, they want it plugged in because that's their

599
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:19.319
<v Speaker 1>whole game, is a centralized control. They want you plugged

600
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.400
<v Speaker 1>into a centrally controlled grid. We've talked about that forever

601
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>as well. But you know, the mas the CEO just

602
00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:27.279
<v Speaker 1>came out, he said. Americans primarily want gas cars. He said,

603
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>even at the end of the decade, he believes traditional

604
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>gas cars and mild hybrid models will make up about

605
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:37.279
<v Speaker 1>two thirds of Mazda's annual sales. He thinks that plug ins,

606
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>plug in hybrids, and evs will represent the remaining third.

607
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:44.519
<v Speaker 1>In other words, most vehicles will still have gas engines

608
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:46.279
<v Speaker 1>five years from now. And when he talks about the

609
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:49.079
<v Speaker 1>mild hybrid models, I think what he's talking about is,

610
00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, the the rotary engine. They're charging batteries which

611
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>were not allowed to have in this country, and the

612
00:28:57.279 --> 00:28:59.359
<v Speaker 1>Europeans are shutting this down because they come up with

613
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>this absolutism, you know, zero emissions, and it's the same

614
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:10.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of destructive authoritarian absolutism as zero covid COVID.

615
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. At the core of this, the problem I think is, well,

616
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:16.359
<v Speaker 2>there are many problems. One of the fundamental problems really

617
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:19.319
<v Speaker 2>isn't range, which everybody talks about so much. It's the

618
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:24.079
<v Speaker 2>wait time associated with the charge. Yes, yeah, and this

619
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:26.680
<v Speaker 2>is just not acceptable, you know, And they try very

620
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:29.920
<v Speaker 2>hard to equivocate and rationalize, and they'll talk about, well,

621
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, you could recover what was the latest figure,

622
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:35.680
<v Speaker 2>something like, you know, ten miles in a couple of

623
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:37.400
<v Speaker 2>minutes or something like that. Well, that's not going to

624
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:39.039
<v Speaker 2>take you very far. And I can put you know,

625
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:41.920
<v Speaker 2>it literally takes seconds to pump one gallon of gas

626
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<v Speaker 2>into a car, and that one gallon will take the

627
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<v Speaker 2>typical car thirty miles. And you know, if you pump

628
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<v Speaker 2>four or five gallons, which takes two minutes maybe less

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<v Speaker 2>than that, now you can go a couple hundred miles.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people are just not going to accept standing there

631
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<v Speaker 2>or being tethered to some charger at a sheets. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to sit in at sheets for fifteen or

633
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<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes, and it's not just once a week. Again,

634
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<v Speaker 2>you know, you get into circle the drained kind of

635
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<v Speaker 2>synergistic problem because the range isn't much to begin with,

636
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<v Speaker 2>which means you have to charge often. And since you

637
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<v Speaker 2>don't get much charge unless you're willing to wait a

638
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<v Speaker 2>really long time, you start out with even less range.

639
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<v Speaker 2>So now you have to end up at the sheets

640
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<v Speaker 2>or the Walmart or wherever this fast charger is and

641
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<v Speaker 2>you know, sit there. I mean imagine that a couple

642
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<v Speaker 2>of times a week, maybe even three times a week,

643
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<v Speaker 2>having to go park at a sheets, you know, for

644
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<v Speaker 2>for fifteen minutes or for a half hour. Who's going

645
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<v Speaker 2>to willingly do that?

646
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<v Speaker 1>Well? You know, and Elon Musk is actually doubling down

647
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<v Speaker 1>on this thing because he's creating this elaborate thing. I'm

648
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<v Speaker 1>sure you've seen it in California. It's like this, you know,

649
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<v Speaker 1>retro futuristic, like drive in theater, you know, where people

650
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<v Speaker 1>it's a destination where people are going to go to

651
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<v Speaker 1>hang out and meet and do social stuff and all

652
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<v Speaker 1>the rest of this stuff for a very very long time.

653
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<v Speaker 1>But he can't reproduce that everywhere, and a lot of

654
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<v Speaker 1>people don't have that kind of time, you know, are

655
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<v Speaker 1>you right?

656
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<v Speaker 2>You got to go to work? Yeah, you know what

657
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<v Speaker 2>kind of fantasy world of these people living.

658
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<v Speaker 1>I guess, well, I know what kind of fantasy world

659
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<v Speaker 1>he lives in.

660
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<v Speaker 2>Right, he's a multi billionaire, so you know he for him,

661
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<v Speaker 2>work is optional. He can't if he wants to. Most people,

662
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<v Speaker 2>on the other hand, have got to be someplace, that's right.

663
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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're expected to be at their employer and

664
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<v Speaker 2>ready to work at a certain time of the day.

665
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<v Speaker 2>They have appointments, they have to keep things of that nature.

666
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<v Speaker 2>That's just life. You know. They don't have an extra

667
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<v Speaker 2>hour a week to budget just sitting around to wait somewhere.

668
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well he knows that. I mean, it's one of

669
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<v Speaker 1>the things that he's focused on with this doge, things

670
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<v Speaker 1>like we're not gonna let people work from home, that

671
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<v Speaker 1>type of you've got to be there and and so

672
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<v Speaker 1>he pushes that with his employees. But when it comes

673
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<v Speaker 1>to him, he's like in the top twenty on the

674
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<v Speaker 1>Diablo video game worldwide, So he's got plenty of time

675
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<v Speaker 1>on his hand when he's when he's not being a billionaire, right,

676
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:47.359
<v Speaker 1>that's right, when he's not hanging out in mar Alago,

677
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<v Speaker 1>he's got other people running the companies for him.

678
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<v Speaker 2>But I'd be interested to see whether now that you

679
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<v Speaker 2>know he's good friends with Donald Trump, whether Trump is

680
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<v Speaker 2>going to rescind the seventy five hundred dollars tacks kick

681
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<v Speaker 2>back and and eliminate all of the carbon credits that

682
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<v Speaker 2>have given Elon Musk so many of his billions. Yeah.

683
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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, we began by talking about how GM

684
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<v Speaker 1>was bailing out of this autonomous cruise thing, but he

685
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:12.839
<v Speaker 1>is doubling down on it and saying that's going to be,

686
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<v Speaker 1>you know, the wave of the future. Nobody's going to

687
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<v Speaker 1>have any gasoline cars, and nobody's going to be driving

688
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>their cars, and he's going to own everybody's car and

689
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<v Speaker 1>as we've talked about many times, rent it to you

690
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>by the ride. Meanwhile, the Mazda CEO says, customers just

691
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<v Speaker 1>looking for affordable solutions rather than electrified solutions. That's the

692
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<v Speaker 1>government's desire for you. They're looking for better value, he's said,

693
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<v Speaker 1>and they're looking for reliable internal combustion engines. Boy, he's

694
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<v Speaker 1>spot on, absolutely spot on.

695
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<v Speaker 2>And I also want the spontaneity that attends the freedom

696
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<v Speaker 2>of movement that we have taken for granted for so long,

697
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<v Speaker 2>which I think it's beginning to dawn. On people we

698
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<v Speaker 2>ought not to take for granted? What do I mean

699
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:55.000
<v Speaker 2>by that? You know, if I wanted to after we're

700
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:56.559
<v Speaker 2>done with our interview, I can just jump in my

701
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<v Speaker 2>truck and go somewhere. You know, I don't have to

702
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:01.119
<v Speaker 2>think about, well have I charged it up enough? And

703
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<v Speaker 2>have I got enough range to go where I want

704
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<v Speaker 2>to go? And if I get there, do I have

705
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<v Speaker 2>time to wait? You know, we as a culture have

706
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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed this magnificent, wonderful benefit of just being able to

707
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<v Speaker 2>go wherever we want to go, whenever we feel like it.

708
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<v Speaker 2>You know, you don't have to plan your life around

709
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:19.599
<v Speaker 2>it because you just put some gas that didn't go.

710
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<v Speaker 2>You could literally drive across the country if you felt

711
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<v Speaker 2>like it, just just because you know, I wanted to

712
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<v Speaker 2>take that away from us.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, it really is. You know, when when

714
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<v Speaker 1>Karen and I got married forty four years ago, he

715
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<v Speaker 1>went to London and the UK to kind of hang out,

716
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and we got this ticket to ride the public transportation,

717
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's like you get a discount for

718
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:42.359
<v Speaker 1>doing it, so you could ride the buses, and you

719
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:44.759
<v Speaker 1>could ride the subway and everything. In a lot of cases,

720
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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of convenient, but when it came to

721
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:48.480
<v Speaker 1>buses and you had to get somewhere else or to

722
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<v Speaker 1>a train, you know, just setting around waiting for their schedule,

723
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:53.839
<v Speaker 1>and it's like wow, you know, I'm just used to

724
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:56.039
<v Speaker 1>jumping in a car and going in doing what I want.

725
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<v Speaker 1>The distances weren't that large, but you know, they're further

726
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<v Speaker 1>than you could walk. But it was such a straining thing.

727
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<v Speaker 2>It was.

728
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<v Speaker 1>It was really annoying. I got a couple of comments

729
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<v Speaker 1>here when to get to audi Modern Retro Radio dot com.

730
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<v Speaker 1>Good to see you there. He says. Reason CEOs are

731
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<v Speaker 1>destroying their own companies' brands is because the New World

732
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<v Speaker 1>Order United Nations puppets. They wouldn't be in those positions

733
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<v Speaker 1>if they weren't. I agree, sort of. Prosessions says getting

734
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:24.559
<v Speaker 1>ads on live shows now rumble is starting to suck

735
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:28.559
<v Speaker 1>like that. Every product we get goes fast before it's banned.

736
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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that was happening. I didn't know we're

737
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<v Speaker 1>getting I'm not seeing any revenue from that.

738
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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, people are willing to sell out, you know, particularly

739
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.599
<v Speaker 2>if they're hands at a really big check.

740
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true.

741
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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a horrendous thing. You know, I've never

742
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:45.320
<v Speaker 2>had somebody offer me a billion dollars, you know, to

743
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.000
<v Speaker 2>sell out, and you know, being honest, who knows I would?

744
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<v Speaker 2>Hope I wouldn't. It's an awfully tempting thing.

745
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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know that was always a thing that you

746
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.119
<v Speaker 1>remember the game Scruples. I don't know if you ever

747
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 1>played that or not, but we, yes, I do, we

748
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<v Speaker 1>played it. In After a while, it's like, you know,

749
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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing a pattern here. You know, they got the

750
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<v Speaker 1>same types of things that are going on, and will

751
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<v Speaker 1>you do it for this amount of money? How about

752
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>for that amount of money? You know, And so they

753
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:11.119
<v Speaker 1>start changing the dollar amounts and just tweaking it slightly

754
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>to say, you know, what's your selling point.

755
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<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the day, you know, we

756
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:16.719
<v Speaker 2>have to live with ourselves. And if you have any

757
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<v Speaker 2>kind of a conscience, and you're going to look at that

758
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 2>man in the mirror or that woman in the mirror

759
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:22.880
<v Speaker 2>and either are going to be happy with what you

760
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<v Speaker 2>see or not. And that's not something that you can

761
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<v Speaker 2>put a price on.

762
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>That's right. And I know as a Christian, one day

763
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:31.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to stand before God face to face. It's

764
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:32.760
<v Speaker 1>going to be more frightening than the mirror. I got

765
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:35.360
<v Speaker 1>to tell you that, uh isn't going to help you.

766
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<v Speaker 2>Then that's right.

767
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Another comment here and it disappeared. I think, oh yeah,

768
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:44.679
<v Speaker 1>here it does Wes Robertson. He says an automotive industry

769
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<v Speaker 1>collapse could send the US into a depression of me

770
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>thinks we're the evs, a monkey wrench that was thrown

771
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:51.679
<v Speaker 1>into the system for that purpose.

772
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.480
<v Speaker 2>What do you think it could well be? And you know,

773
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<v Speaker 2>we've got about a month until the Orange Man ascends

774
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.679
<v Speaker 2>to the Purple and it will be very interesting to

775
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:02.119
<v Speaker 2>see what he does. You know, I would like to

776
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:05.159
<v Speaker 2>see him make cars great again, you know, forget America.

777
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<v Speaker 2>One way he could make America great again is by,

778
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<v Speaker 2>among other things, ending the chicken tacks that prevents a

779
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:14.639
<v Speaker 2>lot of these manufacturers from importing these affordable vehicles, particularly

780
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:18.440
<v Speaker 2>small trucks, into this country. He could do that. You know,

781
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 2>how about letting Americans buy that thirteen thousand dollars Toyota

782
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Highlux champ. Can you imagine what a boon that would

783
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<v Speaker 2>be to some young person who wants to start a

784
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:27.320
<v Speaker 2>contracting business.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, oh, I great, that would be great. But

786
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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he'll do it because he's all about

787
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<v Speaker 1>stopping imports.

788
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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's right. And you know, again that's what

789
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:37.079
<v Speaker 2>we call law enforcement of clue. You know, we'll see

790
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:38.880
<v Speaker 2>what he does. You know, we've had a couple of

791
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:40.559
<v Speaker 2>I wrote it. I think he probably saw what I

792
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:44.719
<v Speaker 2>wrote about his awful choices to be the next surgeon general.

793
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:47.360
<v Speaker 2>And then that other the guy, the thug that he

794
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:50.599
<v Speaker 2>had tapped to be the head of the DEA. Luckily

795
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:54.679
<v Speaker 2>that guy had to bow out. But that horrendous Covidian

796
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:58.760
<v Speaker 2>kabuki a pusher that he's tapped to be the surgeon general.

797
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:01.039
<v Speaker 2>What does that tell you about you? Why would he

798
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<v Speaker 2>choose those people? Of all the people that he could

799
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<v Speaker 2>have chosen, he chose people like that.

800
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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Oh she's awful, absolutely awful. You've got a

801
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:10.639
<v Speaker 1>couple of a couple of things there about it. But

802
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you look at he likes to go everywhere.

803
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:16.239
<v Speaker 1>He says, well, future, whether we're going to destroy build

804
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:18.320
<v Speaker 1>this country back, we're going to do drill, baby, drill.

805
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:21.159
<v Speaker 1>That's his favorite phrase. He says that all the time. Well,

806
00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:23.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, he left the Paris Climate Accord in and

807
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:28.719
<v Speaker 1>when we talk about shutting down the economy completely. That's

808
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<v Speaker 1>what that's about.

809
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<v Speaker 2>You know.

810
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can throw a monkey wrench into the automotive

811
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<v Speaker 1>industry and shut it down, But if you want to

812
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:40.760
<v Speaker 1>shut down all industry and all manufacturing, that's what the

813
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<v Speaker 1>purpose of the Paris Climate Accord is. And it was

814
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<v Speaker 1>a treaty, and it was a treaty that we got

815
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<v Speaker 1>into because Obama and John Kerry said we're in it,

816
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and there wasn't. Trump wouldn't do anything to stop that,

817
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:56.719
<v Speaker 1>and neither would any of the senators. Nobody would call

818
00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:58.400
<v Speaker 1>it out. They all pretended that we were in it.

819
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<v Speaker 1>And a clause that was put in there that I

820
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:03.280
<v Speaker 1>think was put in there just for the United States, says, well,

821
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<v Speaker 1>if you decide that you're going to get out of

822
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.519
<v Speaker 1>the Paris Agreement, you got to wait four years. And

823
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:09.679
<v Speaker 1>so Trump says, Okay, I'm going to get out of it,

824
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<v Speaker 1>but I can't do it then until just after the

825
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>election in twenty twenty. And of course that we were

826
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<v Speaker 1>out of it for maybe a month or something, you know,

827
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<v Speaker 1>before Biden puts us back in. They don't have the

828
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<v Speaker 1>authority to put us in this. But when you look

829
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<v Speaker 1>at what has been done to the UK, for example.

830
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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're shutting down all of their not just

831
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<v Speaker 1>their their coal power plants, but they're shutting down the

832
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:35.360
<v Speaker 1>coal plants that they use to make steel, and they're

833
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:38.119
<v Speaker 1>shutting down the mines. It's complete de industrialization.

834
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:42.960
<v Speaker 2>They're criminalizing farming, that's right, that's right, because they want

835
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:46.280
<v Speaker 2>to want to throttle the foodsply that's right. No, it's

836
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:50.880
<v Speaker 2>literally it's literally a depopulation agenda. It's an impoverishment agenda.

837
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.800
<v Speaker 2>And the common denominator is that all of these people

838
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:55.880
<v Speaker 2>who are pushing this are people who are at the

839
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:59.639
<v Speaker 2>very apex of the pyramid and who have creosis like wealth,

840
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:01.239
<v Speaker 2>and they'll be immune from it.

841
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the apex predators.

842
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:06.320
<v Speaker 2>A stickability of it, you know. They it's not to worry.

843
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:10.119
<v Speaker 2>I've got my bunker with my thousands and thousands of

844
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:12.639
<v Speaker 2>gallons of diesel fuel and my generators, and I've got

845
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.280
<v Speaker 2>all the food I could possibly want for the next

846
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 2>fifty years. It's for you and me and all of

847
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:23.400
<v Speaker 2>the deplorables to deal with this new dark age that

848
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:26.159
<v Speaker 2>they want to that they want to create, that's right.

849
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they want a feudal society, they want a technocratic

850
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:33.400
<v Speaker 1>feudal society, which is, you know, their new spin on it.

851
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Seth Lander again, thank you very much for the tippy says,

852
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Happy holidays, everybody. Just got an eighty four dodge Ram

853
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Custom one hundred three eighteen kubic inch for my sixteen

854
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>year old son. Good, simple and easy to work on.

855
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Great for learning mechanics. And if your son can learn that,

856
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.519
<v Speaker 1>that's going to be learn that. Learn how to work

857
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:54.559
<v Speaker 1>on the car, and learn a little bit about how

858
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:56.800
<v Speaker 1>to make how to use a three D printer, and

859
00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:57.679
<v Speaker 1>you're set forever.

860
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:02.559
<v Speaker 2>Prittor part means a great engine, not a super powerhouse,

861
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 2>but a good, rugged, reliable engine and something that can

862
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.360
<v Speaker 2>literally be rebuilt from the oil pan to the carb breader.

863
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:10.599
<v Speaker 2>You know, if you learn how to use some big tools,

864
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:12.360
<v Speaker 2>you can do it for about one thousand bucks the

865
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:14.480
<v Speaker 2>machine machine costs and parts.

866
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, that's that's going to be the way of

867
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:19.800
<v Speaker 1>the futures is people are starting to get out of

868
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:21.679
<v Speaker 1>what they're trying to and trap us in.

869
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

870
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:26.360
<v Speaker 1>And so you got an article because you you focus

871
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:31.559
<v Speaker 1>very uh carefully and always have on this so called

872
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:34.280
<v Speaker 1>pandemic stuff from the very beginning of the nonsense about it.

873
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:37.360
<v Speaker 1>You got an article up there about the rumors about

874
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.079
<v Speaker 1>pardoning Faunci. What do you think about that?

875
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Uhh, well, the president was set with Nixon. You know

876
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:46.679
<v Speaker 2>people have talked about, well, how can you partner somebody

877
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:49.760
<v Speaker 2>who hasn't been charged, let alone convicted of anything. Well,

878
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:53.760
<v Speaker 2>that that happened with Nixon's Nixon was informally charged, let

879
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:56.519
<v Speaker 2>alone convicted of anything, but Jerry Ford pardoned him in advance.

880
00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:00.000
<v Speaker 2>So it certainly could be done, and it would provide

881
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:04.719
<v Speaker 2>a really interesting way for Donald Trump to claim his

882
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:07.320
<v Speaker 2>hands are tied and he can't do anything to bring

883
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Fauci to account. Never mind that Fauci basically ran the

884
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:14.559
<v Speaker 2>country for the last year of Trump's presidency, well while

885
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Trump stood by his side like a kind of spray

886
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Tan Wooden Indian. Yeah, he did absolutely nothing about it.

887
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:22.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, I wonder whether you know there's a terment

888
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.280
<v Speaker 2>in pro wrestling. It's called kfeb. I'm not sure if

889
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:28.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm pronouncing it correctly, but it's just basically about these

890
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:31.039
<v Speaker 2>guys who are orchestrating their performance, you know, for the

891
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:33.920
<v Speaker 2>benefit of the crowd. And you've got you've got the face,

892
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.079
<v Speaker 2>the you know, the good guy Hulk, and then you've

893
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:38.159
<v Speaker 2>got to heal the bad guy, Iron Cheek.

894
00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:39.840
<v Speaker 1>You know what Trump was referring to.

895
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 2>He said, that's it, you know, And so Iron Sheek

896
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.880
<v Speaker 2>would hit Hulk over the head with the folding chair,

897
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:48.599
<v Speaker 2>and you know, the halt would stagger, you know, like

898
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:50.840
<v Speaker 2>he was going to fall, and then you know, and

899
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:52.960
<v Speaker 2>and then he'd recover his strength, and you know, then

900
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.639
<v Speaker 2>he'd come back and he'd slammed the sheet to the

901
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:57.920
<v Speaker 2>ground and everybody would share because the good guy won.

902
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:00.880
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I wonder whether that what's going on

903
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.079
<v Speaker 2>with Biden and Trump. You know, maybe they sit behind

904
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:05.800
<v Speaker 2>the curtain together and they have a beer together. I

905
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:11.199
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be surprised. And if Biden does part in fauci,

906
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:14.320
<v Speaker 2>that will be evidence of that having happened. In other

907
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.639
<v Speaker 2>pieces of evidence, we'll see whether Trump actually does issue

908
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:20.119
<v Speaker 2>a blanket pardon to people who actually deserve it and

909
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.760
<v Speaker 2>for whom the pardon power was intended, meaning those people

910
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:26.000
<v Speaker 2>that Trump threw under the bus for the January sixth

911
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.880
<v Speaker 2>so called insurrection, who've been rotting in jail for nearly

912
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:32.599
<v Speaker 2>four years, who at most were guilty of disturbing the peace,

913
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:35.360
<v Speaker 2>and maybe trespassing, the kinds of things you and I

914
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:39.079
<v Speaker 2>would have gotten a ticket for, not litt alone be

915
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:40.079
<v Speaker 2>thrown in a cage.

916
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:42.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it disgusts me, you know. And one of the

917
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:44.920
<v Speaker 1>guys that was rounded up, and I talked about this earlier,

918
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:50.159
<v Speaker 1>how they're accelerating the arrests of people even after the election,

919
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>and immediately before the election, none of the judges would say, well,

920
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:54.599
<v Speaker 1>we'll do a continuous and see what's going to happen

921
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:56.800
<v Speaker 1>if Trump's going to pardon people. But you know, one

922
00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:58.920
<v Speaker 1>of the guys cowboys for Trump, he said, this is

923
00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:01.679
<v Speaker 1>the greatest entrapman in history. And it was an entrapment

924
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:04.719
<v Speaker 1>by Trump. And you know, his lawyers telling him, oh, no,

925
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.840
<v Speaker 1>you can't do anything about it. Is that non violent

926
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:11.880
<v Speaker 1>behavior of what people did is expressly permitted in the

927
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:15.119
<v Speaker 1>First Amendment to peacefully assemble and redress your grievances. To

928
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 1>peacefully assemble and redress your grievances is protected. But he

929
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:22.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't have the backbone to do anything about it because

930
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>he's got a lawyer telling him, Hey, they're going to

931
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:25.760
<v Speaker 1>come after you. Well they came after him anyway, And

932
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:28.000
<v Speaker 1>so I think it's a good thing that you know,

933
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:33.639
<v Speaker 1>the Hunter Hunter Biden pardon is going to essentially, I think,

934
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:36.760
<v Speaker 1>force him to do something about it. But you know,

935
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:40.599
<v Speaker 1>when you look at the the total betrayal of these

936
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:43.800
<v Speaker 1>people and how you know, Republicans in general have just

937
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:45.440
<v Speaker 1>run from it. There's only a couple of them that

938
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.159
<v Speaker 1>even bothered to go to the prisons, and you know,

939
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:52.519
<v Speaker 1>talk about the horrific conditions that are there. But you know,

940
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:54.760
<v Speaker 1>this is something Eric, I've seen all my life, the

941
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>CIA going in orchestrating coups and then training the dictator

942
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:00.519
<v Speaker 1>that they put in to run a secret police. I mean,

943
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:02.639
<v Speaker 1>this is you know, this is a pattern that has

944
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:04.519
<v Speaker 1>gone on all my life with a CIA.

945
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, but it's more blatant now, and it's more controus.

946
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:12.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think they're playing with dynamite. I think,

947
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:14.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, you see things. Everybody sees things like this

948
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:18.320
<v Speaker 2>egregious cretan Hunter Biden and various other people like that

949
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:22.280
<v Speaker 2>literally getting away with like appalling horrific crimes involving real

950
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:26.559
<v Speaker 2>harm to real people. And meanwhile, people who haven't harmed anybody,

951
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:29.039
<v Speaker 2>and you know who are guilty of it most some

952
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.920
<v Speaker 2>sort of a minor jaywalking style technical foul and fraction

953
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:37.440
<v Speaker 2>are prosecuted to the nth degree for things like that,

954
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:39.960
<v Speaker 2>and people are really getting tired of it, I think,

955
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.559
<v Speaker 2>And I think this is one good thing about Orange

956
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Man is I do think he's sort of set in

957
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:48.199
<v Speaker 2>motion a populist uprising, you know. And I just hope

958
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:52.519
<v Speaker 2>that this populist uprising isn't channeled in the wrong direction

959
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:56.039
<v Speaker 2>and then becomes the pretext for something even more awful

960
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:58.400
<v Speaker 2>than we've been dealing with for the past four years.

961
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, the problem with the popular uprising is that it's

962
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:04.920
<v Speaker 1>idle worshiped, you know, you know, and I saw it

963
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>with some of the Tea Party stuff earlier on, you know,

964
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.280
<v Speaker 1>when they said the tax enough already and we got

965
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:12.320
<v Speaker 1>to cut taxes and all our And there's an echo

966
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:15.880
<v Speaker 1>of that with Doge and that nonsense that, and I

967
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:17.559
<v Speaker 1>think that's going to be a bunch of nonsense. There's

968
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:23.159
<v Speaker 1>not anything that you know, Musk and Ramaswami can make.

969
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:25.400
<v Speaker 1>All the recommendations that they want, doesn't mean anything. I've

970
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:29.079
<v Speaker 1>seen one commission after another over the last thirty or

971
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:32.119
<v Speaker 1>forty years make all kinds of recommendations, but it requires

972
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Congress to act on it. We can't even get Mike

973
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Johnson to allocate some money to help the people who

974
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.519
<v Speaker 1>are freezing to death. Literally, we had somebody who died

975
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:42.960
<v Speaker 1>from the cold. He won't do anything to help them,

976
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:47.039
<v Speaker 1>but he'll keep channeling the money to foreign wars. No

977
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:50.199
<v Speaker 1>problem foreign governments. You know, he doesn't have any problem

978
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:51.719
<v Speaker 1>with that. So they're not going to do anything to

979
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:55.079
<v Speaker 1>seriously reform it. And the vast bulk of the money

980
00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:57.800
<v Speaker 1>that's being spent, even if you were to say they

981
00:45:57.840 --> 00:45:59.679
<v Speaker 1>were going to cut back on the on the wars

982
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:03.159
<v Speaker 1>and turned industrial complex, the vast bulk of the money

983
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:06.599
<v Speaker 1>is there with entitlement programs that they would have to

984
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:09.079
<v Speaker 1>change the law on. So there's not really anything that's

985
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:10.559
<v Speaker 1>going to happen with any of that.

986
00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:13.719
<v Speaker 2>I agree ultimately, I think this is just industrial policy,

987
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:17.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, Soviet style command and control, and it just

988
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:19.519
<v Speaker 2>comes down to, well, which which person is going to

989
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:23.639
<v Speaker 2>direct this sovietized economy and in what direction will it be.

990
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:28.199
<v Speaker 2>It's not let's return to a free market model, one

991
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:30.679
<v Speaker 2>in which people are free to transact with one another

992
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:35.039
<v Speaker 2>non coercibly. That's an anthem can have that you know,

993
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:38.159
<v Speaker 2>it's always got to be at the direction of some

994
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:40.880
<v Speaker 2>some leader and you're right about the cult of personality

995
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:43.159
<v Speaker 2>that's surrounding Trump. I saw something the other day. You

996
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:45.239
<v Speaker 2>may have seen it as well. Apparently they're going to

997
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:48.559
<v Speaker 2>erect some god awful statute.

998
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:52.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, several stories. I yeah, fight fight fighting thing or something.

999
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah it is. I'm already going to spray paint

1000
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:57.719
<v Speaker 2>the thing gold to.

1001
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.679
<v Speaker 1>They keep saying that they are not guilty of idolatry.

1002
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:03.920
<v Speaker 1>But if it looks like it, it walks like it,

1003
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:06.280
<v Speaker 1>it stands like it, it looks like it's idolatry to me,

1004
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I tell you it's They just keep going down that road.

1005
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:11.039
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I'm saying. You know that it's been

1006
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:16.519
<v Speaker 1>a misdirection. Just like the Tea Party, they started focusing on, well,

1007
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:18.400
<v Speaker 1>we're taxing of already. Okay, so what do we do

1008
00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:22.880
<v Speaker 1>about this? Are we going to cut some programs or

1009
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:24.360
<v Speaker 1>what do you want to talk about? They didn't want

1010
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 1>to talk about that, and they didn't want to talk

1011
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:28.400
<v Speaker 1>about the proper role of government, and neither does Trump.

1012
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Trump wants to make this all about loyalty to himself,

1013
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and he's not making this even when you look at

1014
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:37.760
<v Speaker 1>this talk about getting revenge and things, and he says well,

1015
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:39.519
<v Speaker 1>success is going to be our revenge. And yet at

1016
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the same time throughout that interview, interwoven through it is

1017
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:46.079
<v Speaker 1>this undercurrent of I'm going to get even with these

1018
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:49.559
<v Speaker 1>people instead of instead of saying, okay, we're going to

1019
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:51.679
<v Speaker 1>have a truce and we're going to re establish a

1020
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:53.920
<v Speaker 1>rule of laws so the victor doesn't get to jail

1021
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:56.280
<v Speaker 1>his political enemies. They're not going to do that, and

1022
00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:59.199
<v Speaker 1>they're not going to fix the economy, and you know,

1023
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:02.280
<v Speaker 1>all of this drill baby, drill stuff. I really think

1024
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:04.280
<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen with it? Eric, I think they're

1025
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:05.880
<v Speaker 1>going to come in. You know, we got as a

1026
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:08.679
<v Speaker 1>tag team match. And so you've got the Democrats like

1027
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Biden and all the rest of them. They come in

1028
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:13.440
<v Speaker 1>with prohibition, right, they got prohibition on crypto, they got

1029
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:15.960
<v Speaker 1>prohibition on energy use. Trump is going to come in

1030
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:17.800
<v Speaker 1>and say we're going to open up everything and everybody

1031
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:20.000
<v Speaker 1>can do whatever they want to with crypto, and you

1032
00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 1>can use whatever form of energy you want, but you'll

1033
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:25.639
<v Speaker 1>pay a carbon tax or you'll have to pay for

1034
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:28.920
<v Speaker 1>carbon sequestration, which my buddies have already set up a

1035
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:32.519
<v Speaker 1>business to monetize that, and my buddies have already set

1036
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:35.840
<v Speaker 1>up a business to tokenize everything, and so I think

1037
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:39.280
<v Speaker 1>that's the danger. You know, it was one pastor said

1038
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<v Speaker 1>God's delivered us from money to challenge us with another.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to come at us with the same agenda,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're going to do it in a subversive way

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<v Speaker 1>to make you think that it's going to be, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just an open market freedom type of thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but it's going to be that type of approach.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, Well, I agree, And the people who would

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<v Speaker 2>ordinarily be apt or inclined to resist question it if

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<v Speaker 2>it were say Biden or Harris we're promoting it, will

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<v Speaker 2>accept it because it's their guy who's who's imposing it.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the great worries that I've got. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's selection campaign really hinged on this, you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>tsunami of illegals that have been entering the country over

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<v Speaker 2>the past four years. How exactly is he going to

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<v Speaker 2>identify and deport all of these people? How exactly is

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<v Speaker 2>he going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That national ib right.

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<v Speaker 2>My fear is he can sue some sort of a

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<v Speaker 2>papers please Passport checkport regime on us, you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>the name of apprehending and identifying all of these non

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<v Speaker 2>citizen aliens who are in the country. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately a lot of you know, these gung home mega

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<v Speaker 2>people will say, yeah, we got to do that. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're going to have a new apparat like

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<v Speaker 2>we got with the Homeland Security apparat under Bush, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>after nine to eleven. So you know, now Americans are

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<v Speaker 2>used to having to deal with these blue shirted goons

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<v Speaker 2>to get on an airplane. Well, soon, are they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get used to having to deal with goons wearing

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<v Speaker 2>other kinds of sh at every border, at every state

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<v Speaker 2>or when they drive across the county line? Are they

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<v Speaker 2>going to get used to having to stop at a

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<v Speaker 2>checkpoint and move to the satisfaction of some government goon

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<v Speaker 2>that they're an American citizen. I think it's a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, it is a possibility. Take a look at

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing. I mean, you know, we've got and

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<v Speaker 1>they're still pouring it on with the job's stuff. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So DeSantis and Republicans in Florida say, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have mandatory you verify, Mandatory you verify to get a job.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to have to have an ID and biometric

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<v Speaker 1>ID to fly anywhere. The real idea is kicking in

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<v Speaker 1>next year under Trump. Right, the Republicans have always pushed

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<v Speaker 1>back against, but now they're going to bring it in

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<v Speaker 1>under Trump. Biometric IDs with TSA. They want control so

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<v Speaker 1>they can have jobs because illegals are taking our jobs away.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to have a voter ID. It's ID I

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<v Speaker 1>D ID. Even online, you know, we got we can't

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<v Speaker 1>control our kids access to social media, so we need

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<v Speaker 1>to have an online idea to get onto social media

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. All of this stuff is pushed towards an

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<v Speaker 1>I D. And interestingly enough, every one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>that I mentioned are sore points with conservatives because Biden

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<v Speaker 1>has come in and made these things worse for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, and so now Trump will come in. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a problem solution, problem solution, and they hand this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff off like a relay baton with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, It's it's quite worrisome. You know, there's this authoritarian

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<v Speaker 2>law and order undercurrent that that is behind MAGA, and

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<v Speaker 2>it really bothers me. It's something that has long bothered

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<v Speaker 2>me about the Conservatives.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you must love Tom Homan. What fuck that guy is?

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<v Speaker 1>He's a stereotypical bad sheriff in town, isn't he Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't go by what they say, go by what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I got into a lively debate with the

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<v Speaker 2>number of people over this guy. I think his name

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<v Speaker 2>is Chad Honis. Oh yeah, this guy was one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most brutal of the COVID thugs he had. Not

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<v Speaker 2>only did he have this pastor or arrested in Florida

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<v Speaker 2>for having the effrontery to allow people who wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>attend his services.

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<v Speaker 1>We're almost out of time. Yeah, I told everybody he's

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<v Speaker 1>perfect the DEA, because the DEA doesn't respect for the constitution.

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<v Speaker 2>Just tell us, wasn't he wasn't doing anything more than

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<v Speaker 2>opening the doors and saying, hey, if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>come in and worship, you're free to do so. Not

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<v Speaker 2>only did he have that man arrested, but he publicly

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<v Speaker 2>shamed him. He had a big press conference where he

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<v Speaker 2>denounced him for being a threat to public health. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>I still granted, I agree all the person and Trump

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<v Speaker 2>chose him. Think about what that says about Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, hang on care and keep it going

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<v Speaker 1>for a second. And the other part this is. A

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<v Speaker 1>listener pointed out to me, said, his father in law

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<v Speaker 1>was a billionaire who is convicted of a crime that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump pardoned. So that's how this democrat who is so

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<v Speaker 1>heavily connected with all these other people, that's how he

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<v Speaker 1>got his name in the hat. Because that's all it takes,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. Eric, It's truly amazing before we go tell

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<v Speaker 1>people about your side, anything that you want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>people about there, Eric, it's kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of eclectic for those who aren't familiar with it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I call it the world's best libertarian car site because

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<v Speaker 2>as far as I know, it's the only libertarian car site. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when we get into all sorts of things,

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<v Speaker 2>we get into the stuff that other car sites get into,

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<v Speaker 2>which means car reviews, technical stuff, things having to do

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<v Speaker 2>with what's going on in the business. But we also

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<v Speaker 2>have a lively conversation going on there about the things

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<v Speaker 2>that you and I talk about about, political things, some

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<v Speaker 2>of them tie into cars, some of them don't, But

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<v Speaker 2>all of these things are kind of related when you

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<v Speaker 2>really think about it, And so that's what I try

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<v Speaker 2>to do there. I try to have a synergistic kind

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<v Speaker 2>of bringing together of all these common themes and try

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<v Speaker 2>to explain to people how they're related and they're not

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<v Speaker 2>separate things that aren't connected, because they really are connected.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about real cars, you don't talk about these

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<v Speaker 1>hyper cars that are out there. Although even the real

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<v Speaker 1>cars that they are starting to get hyper expensive, aren't they.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even the hyper cars aren't that interesting anymore. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the day, you know, a Ferrari or a

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<v Speaker 2>Lamborghini was really a spectacular car. I mean again, just

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<v Speaker 2>like with the jag you lift the look at that

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<v Speaker 2>beat Paul of engine, you know, and and they had

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<v Speaker 2>all this just interesting styling. Now they're all the same

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<v Speaker 2>plastic insect shapes. You know. It's like this insect versus

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<v Speaker 2>that insect. And the only thing that they will bring

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<v Speaker 2>to the table is well, this one is two tenths

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<v Speaker 2>of a second faster through the quarter mile. That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>basically it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm waiting to get my praying mantis, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the one that's got the attachment. This. You get

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<v Speaker 1>a clover in front of you, that's your your thing

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<v Speaker 1>about somebody that's like a left winding bandit. You get

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<v Speaker 1>a clover in front of you, you can use that praying

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<v Speaker 1>mantis thing to grab them and flip them behind you.

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<v Speaker 2>Something that would be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would do, I would do always great. Talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you, Eric petersap autos dot com or Eric Peters

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<v Speaker 1>autos dot com. Thank you very much, Eric, good talking

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<v Speaker 1>very Christmas. Everybody listening, thank you you too. The common Man.

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<v Speaker 1>They created common Core and dumbed down our children. They

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<v Speaker 1>created common past, track and control us their Commons project

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure the commoners own nothing and the communist future.

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<v Speaker 1>They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated ordinary. But

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<v Speaker 1>each of us has worth and dignity created in the

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<v Speaker 1>image of God. That is what we have in common.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what they want to take away. Their most

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<v Speaker 1>powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire to know

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<v Speaker 1>everything about us, while they hide everything from us. It's

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<v Speaker 1>time to turn that around and expose what they want

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