1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting from Studio A Here at Proven Winners Color Chroy Shrubs. 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,919 It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show with Stacy Hervella, Me, 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,640 Rick Weist, and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Today 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,120 we talk about heat and humidity. If you can't stand 5 00:00:19,199 --> 00:00:23,039 the heat, get out of the kitchen. That's a phrase 6 00:00:23,199 --> 00:00:27,519 that most people associate with US President Harry Truman. But 7 00:00:28,359 --> 00:00:32,280 we've heard all the phrases, too hot to handle, hot buttons. 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,280 Some like it hot. When you're hot, you're hot. When 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,200 you're not, you're not. Makes me think of that great 10 00:00:38,359 --> 00:00:41,600 Jerry Red song put your money on the table, Let 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,000 them roll again. When you're hot, you're hot. When you're not, 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,880 you're not. In Stacy on a Gardening Simplified Show episode 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,640 some time ago, you and I were chatting with doctor 14 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:56,039 Allan Armitage, and it stuck with me when he said 15 00:00:56,719 --> 00:00:59,960 there's really no whether you believe it or not. He said, 16 00:01:00,039 --> 00:01:05,079 as there really are no sun or shade loving plants. 17 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,439 He calls them sun tolerant or shade tolerant plants. And 18 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,239 if it's a sun tolerant plant, it's a plant that 19 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,359 can handle the sun from two to four o'clock in 20 00:01:17,439 --> 00:01:21,359 the afternoon, but a lot of interest in this subject. 21 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,359 Speaker 2: Absolutely, because you know, even if you don't live in 22 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,040 a hot climate, a lot of us in the Midwest 23 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,000 have some very hot days. And you know, people in 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,280 the lower Midwest, like down in Missouri, they get really 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,719 hot days as well as really cold winters. And so 26 00:01:35,799 --> 00:01:39,239 I think we all really benefit from having plants that 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,280 tolerate heat and humidity, even if it's just a couple days, 28 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,680 but especially if there is a lot of heat and humidity. 29 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,439 Do you know what is the most humid major city 30 00:01:51,599 --> 00:01:52,159 in the US. 31 00:01:52,799 --> 00:01:55,079 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Miami. 32 00:01:55,599 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: Honolulu, Hawaii. 33 00:01:56,879 --> 00:02:00,719 Speaker 2: Wow, they have three hundred and thirty seven even days 34 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,400 of uncomfortable humidity. 35 00:02:03,719 --> 00:02:04,319 Speaker 3: I love it. 36 00:02:04,359 --> 00:02:07,079 Speaker 2: So you know, I know you've been looking for a 37 00:02:07,159 --> 00:02:10,400 place to go. It indulged your your heat loving self. 38 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:15,120 So Honolulu, Hawaii may just vietnaut You know, a lot 39 00:02:15,159 --> 00:02:18,080 of the states in the American South are also very hot, 40 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,840 but not for the US. No one bet Honolulu. 41 00:02:21,439 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: Well, there are so many great plant there's many great 42 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:27,879 plants in Hawaii. Well, there's many great plants for our 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,080 landscape that can tolerate the heat and humidity. Stacey I 44 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:34,879 have to say thank you to you, and you inspired 45 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,960 me because this year I planted a jessamine in my yard, 46 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:45,879 the juiced orange. It's just starting to bloom. Neighbors are 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,960 already asking what is that plant? This is a plant 48 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:53,800 that we would probably put in that category as a 49 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:54,960 heat loving plant. 50 00:02:54,759 --> 00:02:57,039 Speaker 2: Right yeah, Juiced orange is a relatively new plant for 51 00:02:57,159 --> 00:03:01,039 us in proven Winner's Colored Choice Shrubs is a you know, 52 00:03:01,159 --> 00:03:04,280 warm climate plant. I think it's hardy down to Usdazon nine, 53 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,840 so not terribly hardy, but these really cool clusters of 54 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:14,439 kind of bright golden, almost honeycomb like flowers. And I've 55 00:03:14,439 --> 00:03:17,159 grown this also is a container plant and it does great. 56 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,639 I mean it's just flowers all season long, and hummingbirds 57 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,680 love it, and it's just it's a very very cool plant. 58 00:03:23,759 --> 00:03:25,560 And you know, it's not surprising to me that your 59 00:03:25,599 --> 00:03:27,840 neighbors are like, what in the heck is that? Because 60 00:03:27,879 --> 00:03:29,680 it's not a plant that those of us in Michigan 61 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:32,319 are used to seeing. You know, we'll see mandavilla, we'll 62 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,400 see tropical high biscus, a lot of these patio plants 63 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,800 that have become really popular, but juice storms jutsamine is 64 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,680 not one of them. It's the first time a lot 65 00:03:40,719 --> 00:03:42,159 of people are going to be seeing that plant. 66 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to shine the spotlight on the plant because 67 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,479 I love that plant. Another plant that I love is 68 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,560 creeping Time, and I have it growing in the hottest 69 00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:56,479 spot of my landscape right along a side walk edge, 70 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,639 and I looked it up the other other day. Times 71 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:04,560 or time miss, however it's pronounced, is Greek for courage. 72 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,879 The origin of the word time is from a Greek 73 00:04:07,919 --> 00:04:12,719 word which means courage, and Roman soldiers bathed in time 74 00:04:13,159 --> 00:04:17,199 water to build physical strength. I just thought that was kind. 75 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,879 Speaker 2: That is very interesting, and I would say that the 76 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,319 plant Time, if it's in the right conditions, is also 77 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,240 a very brave and durable plant. I know it's self 78 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,639 sod all over in my garden. Meanwhile, I'm sure a 79 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,279 lot of our friends in humid climates who have wet 80 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:37,240 soil are having considerably less luck growing Time exactly now. 81 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:43,079 Speaker 1: He will also expose your soil preparation organic matter anyone. 82 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,000 And I wanted to throw this in Stacy because we've 83 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,920 talked on the show about the fact that I'm the 84 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,879 chipper guy, not that I'm you know, chipper, I mean 85 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,399 I like to chip leaves in the fall and use 86 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,639 him in my landscape. So doctor Thomas Smiley, I've met 87 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,000 him a few times. He's a plant physiotlogists and social 88 00:05:01,079 --> 00:05:05,079 scientists at bartlet Tree Experts. I was at their research 89 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:10,439 laboratory in Charlotte, North Carolina. Here's the point. He did 90 00:05:10,439 --> 00:05:15,920 a study on extreme temperature swings and the soil and 91 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,040 they used various types of mulch. They used stone multch, 92 00:05:20,439 --> 00:05:26,480 no mulch. They tested or monitored the temperature variance on 93 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,199 concrete itself. The whole point here, Stacey, is that mulch 94 00:05:31,319 --> 00:05:35,319 is important and a good mulch applied properly because there 95 00:05:35,399 --> 00:05:40,600 is a big variation min max. Between heat of the 96 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:45,480 day temperatures and nighttime temperatures and that wild fluctuation. I 97 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,079 think there was a sixty eight degree differential in a 98 00:05:49,199 --> 00:05:53,399 day on concrete, Oh my god. But with mulch soil, 99 00:05:53,519 --> 00:05:56,480 and we've got the link to that study, we'll share 100 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,600 that with you. But you know, to be successful watering 101 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,000 deep as opposed to just lightly on the surface and 102 00:06:04,079 --> 00:06:06,879 properly mulching plants, it's really going to go a long 103 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,360 ways towards helping you and the plants deal with the heat. 104 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: Yes, And you know, can I just take this opportunity 105 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,519 to say how much I am loving this rain. I'm 106 00:06:16,519 --> 00:06:19,279 gonna knock on wood, so I'm not chasing us. But 107 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,680 it has been several years since we have had this 108 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,360 much range in the growing season in Michigan. And the 109 00:06:26,399 --> 00:06:29,959 irony of us doing a heat and humidity show when 110 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,279 we are in some of the coolest temperatures that we 111 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:33,720 have had at this time of year. But I just 112 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,240 want to say rain loving it. I hope you are too. 113 00:06:38,079 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: It is great, It really is. Of course, there's lots 114 00:06:41,319 --> 00:06:45,879 of improved varieties, cultivars of plants that help that we 115 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,439 have to use in our landscapes to deal with heat 116 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,759 and humidity. And I think about the annual side Stacey, 117 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,439 where years ago I would sell sweet to Listen and 118 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,360 in April and May it was beautiful when the weather 119 00:07:00,519 --> 00:07:02,639 was cool, and then it would just melt out and 120 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,360 wither in the heat of summer. Now today you have 121 00:07:05,439 --> 00:07:10,879 the Lobularia varieties snow Princess, Violet Night, White Night, very 122 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,519 very heat tolerant. It brings up the point that in 123 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:18,000 all categories of plants, many new cultivars are now available 124 00:07:18,279 --> 00:07:21,920 including annuals where we're growing color blaze colias out in 125 00:07:21,959 --> 00:07:26,920 the full sun, Salvia's which are widely known as sun 126 00:07:27,199 --> 00:07:32,600 loving mojave per Slaine. It's just amazing to me what 127 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,360 we have at our fingertips today to use it really is. 128 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: And you know, I think you made the point very 129 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,600 well there, which is proven. Winners does sell those new 130 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,639 heat tolerant alyssums not as alyssum, but as lobularia, which 131 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,439 is the scientific name for the plant, in an attempt 132 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,680 to differentiate it from those old fashioned sweet alyssms, which 133 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,160 absolutely did mel I mean, they could not they could 134 00:07:56,199 --> 00:07:58,839 not withstand the heat even like back in the sixties 135 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:01,199 and seventies, they certainly can't with stand the heat now, 136 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,839 and so they're really trying to distance themselves from that plant. 137 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,879 Not to mention that there is also a scientific genus 138 00:08:08,199 --> 00:08:11,240 a lissum, which is a totally different plant. So it's 139 00:08:11,279 --> 00:08:13,319 one of those really confusing things. But very often you 140 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,279 will see that name change, you know, from the old 141 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,839 common name to something new. So to really help people 142 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,240 understand that this is not that same plant, you can 143 00:08:24,279 --> 00:08:26,079 have a whole new set of expectations. 144 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: You got it not the same old same. Oh well, 145 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:32,240 put And you know, we mentioned the fact that I 146 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,879 love the heat. Forgive me, I'm only humid, but I do. 147 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,919 And I've had real fascination with this because as a kid, 148 00:08:40,519 --> 00:08:43,320 I would work on the farm all day. Then when 149 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,120 I got home, I would help my dad roof houses 150 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:48,240 in the middle of summer. Oh my god, that's a 151 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,679 hot job, right, yeah, and then us kids would go 152 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,360 to bed in the upper story bedroom, no air conditioning. 153 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,200 You know, it's August, it's hot. So I've wondered whether 154 00:08:57,279 --> 00:08:59,440 or not I got to the point where I tolerated 155 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,759 the heat or if it was genetic. And I did 156 00:09:02,759 --> 00:09:05,440 some reading on it, and they said probably only about 157 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,919 five percent of it is genetic enjoying the heat. And 158 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,759 then I, with fascination, looked at these Major League Baseball 159 00:09:13,799 --> 00:09:17,279 studies that they had where they studied strikes and balls 160 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,879 and found that the umpires were less accurate as the 161 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:27,559 temperatures got hotter and hotter. Fascinating stuff. So people are 162 00:09:27,639 --> 00:09:31,840 like plants. Plants are like people, and your plants may 163 00:09:31,919 --> 00:09:35,200 struggle in the heat of summer. Fortunately, as we said, 164 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,480 many great plants will share some of those with you 165 00:09:38,279 --> 00:09:41,639 on today's show and things that you can do to 166 00:09:41,759 --> 00:09:44,879 deal with the heat or beat the heat. So here's 167 00:09:44,879 --> 00:09:50,000 my limerick for today. When you're hot, you're hot. When 168 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,799 you're not, you're not. If your planting's unprepared when the 169 00:09:54,879 --> 00:09:59,879 temperatures flared, it'll be a melting pot. When heat is 170 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,200 to the hilt, causing you and your plants to tilt. 171 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,360 As the temperatures elevate, make sure to hydrate or both 172 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,240 you and your plants will wilt. 173 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,799 Speaker 3: So true, right, so true. 174 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see how Stacey ties this in and plants 175 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:20,440 on trial. That's coming up next here on the Gardening Simplified. 176 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: Show, Beautify your home and community with proven Winn's Color 177 00:10:28,759 --> 00:10:31,639 Choice Shrubs with over three hundred and twenty five unique 178 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,879 varieties to choose from. There's a flowering shrubber evergreen for 179 00:10:34,919 --> 00:10:38,120 every taste and every space. Just look for the distinctive 180 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,879 white container your local garden center or learn more at 181 00:10:40,879 --> 00:10:46,200 proven Winner's Color Choice dot com. Creating's Gardening Friends, and 182 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:48,919 welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. We were talking 183 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,960 all about heat and humidity and plants that you can 184 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:56,279 grow in hot and humid conditions. Because you know whether 185 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,480 you live in a hot climate, or you live in 186 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,879 an area where it just sometimes gets a little hot. 187 00:11:00,919 --> 00:11:02,919 You just don't want your plants to let you down 188 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:06,720 during that, you know, height of the season. Now, if 189 00:11:06,759 --> 00:11:09,080 you are in the category of living in a rather 190 00:11:09,159 --> 00:11:11,759 cool climate but you just have some hot days, you 191 00:11:11,799 --> 00:11:15,240 may find that flowering shrubs like roses kind of take 192 00:11:15,279 --> 00:11:18,120 a little break. Things that bloom normally would bloom for 193 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,440 a really long time, I have to take a little 194 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,080 break when it gets really really hot. If you are 195 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,039 in a hot climate that's always hot, you're gonna find 196 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,759 they're gonna take a longer break. But then as soon 197 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:28,480 as it starts to cool down and the night starts 198 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,600 to get a little bit longer, they should come roaring back. 199 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. Or something as simple as your turf is another grade. 200 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: Oh yes, right, yeah, definitely. It's one of the reasons 201 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,440 why I got rid of my lawn actually, because you know, 202 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,080 I didn't water it and it turned all brown and horrible, 203 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,000 and I just said, I don't need to look at 204 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,879 this anymore. So now I have a lot of plants. 205 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,399 But you know, I think one of the things that 206 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,120 people are rather surprised to find out, and I have 207 00:11:53,159 --> 00:11:56,840 seen this vividly illustrated throughout my fifteen years helping people 208 00:11:56,879 --> 00:12:00,240 grow proven Winter's color choice shrubs is that there are 209 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,919 some very interesting things that happen when you grow in 210 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,200 a humid climate. So plants that are growing in high 211 00:12:06,279 --> 00:12:11,600 humidity over long periods, they actually use less water than 212 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,399 plants that are growing in an arid climate. That humidity 213 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,240 actually limits the amount of water that the plant gives 214 00:12:18,279 --> 00:12:21,879 off during photosynthesis. So during photosynthesis, a plant's stomata on 215 00:12:21,919 --> 00:12:24,600 the underside of its leaves need to be open. When 216 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:28,320 it's very humid, that differential between the humidity in the 217 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,519 air and the water in the plant is much smaller, 218 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,480 and so it's not giving off as much water vapor. 219 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:36,200 It's not losing the same amount of water that it 220 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,279 would in our normal climate. And so that means that 221 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,919 the soil then tends to stain moisture because you are 222 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,879 not the plant's not taking that up and using that. 223 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,960 And I would say, you know a lot of people 224 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,559 I think who maybe spend a long time in the 225 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,279 north and move to a hot, humid climate like Texas 226 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:57,559 or Florida, you know, they want to grow the plants 227 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:58,480 that they grew up here. 228 00:12:58,960 --> 00:12:59,759 Speaker 3: One of those plants. 229 00:12:59,759 --> 00:13:03,279 Speaker 2: Is so certainly panicle hydranges, and over and over again 230 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,960 when I have seen them suffer, not not the people, 231 00:13:06,039 --> 00:13:11,320 the hydranges, it's been because the soil is too wet, 232 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,080 because the hydrangees aren't using as much water now. So 233 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,720 it's really really crucial to have that well drained soil. 234 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,720 That's interesting, It is very interesting. And you know people 235 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,600 tend to think like, oh, well, hydrangers need a ton 236 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:24,320 of water, so I'm going to really be you know, 237 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,360 watering this a lot. So it's kind of a unique 238 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,120 challenge that people have in human climates that you know, 239 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:34,000 those of us who don't live in a human climate 240 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:34,879 wouldn't really consider. 241 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,039 Speaker 1: And when you talk about humidity, Stacey, one thing that 242 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,039 pops into my head my experience in the garden center 243 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,879 industry selling lots of house plants and humidity indoors, right, 244 00:13:46,039 --> 00:13:48,799 and when you don't have that humidity indoors, the plants 245 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:49,600 really feel. 246 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: It, yes, and they need a lot of water, right, 247 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,759 they would need outside. So when we talk about heat 248 00:13:54,759 --> 00:13:56,639 and humidity, you know, it's not just like you were 249 00:13:56,639 --> 00:13:59,919 talking about with doctor Ellen Armitage. If you live in 250 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,519 hot climate, you don't want a plant that merely tolerates 251 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,279 heat and humidity. You need something that is going to perform, 252 00:14:08,639 --> 00:14:11,039 you know, like up here, we just want plants to 253 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,480 not die. Right down there, you need a plant to 254 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:16,919 perform because you're looking at this thing for far longer 255 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,159 than we are up here. Your spring starts earlier, your 256 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,200 winter comes later, so you tend to have a much 257 00:14:21,399 --> 00:14:25,320 longer growing season. Now, a couple of factors that you're 258 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,919 going to want to look for, or what I would 259 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,120 say we look for when we say that a plant 260 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,720 is heat and humidity tolerant. Number one is going to 261 00:14:32,759 --> 00:14:37,679 be disease resistance, because plants growing in humid conditions are 262 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,799 typically going to be a lot more susceptible to fungal 263 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,320 diseases like leaf spot, powdery mildew, black spot, all of those, 264 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,360 so many many diseases that are out there. And that's 265 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,080 important because of course, if like if here, if you 266 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,519 have a plant that gets a little bit of powdery 267 00:14:53,559 --> 00:14:55,559 mildew or a leaf spot, you just kind of say, eh, 268 00:14:55,639 --> 00:14:57,159 all right, it's fine, you can clean it up in 269 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:57,480 the winter. 270 00:14:57,519 --> 00:14:59,399 Speaker 3: It's not a big deal. But if you live in a. 271 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: Climate that's hot and they're always getting a lot of 272 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,720 leaf spot or a lot of powdery mil do year 273 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,879 after year after year. That will start to really affect 274 00:15:06,879 --> 00:15:09,840 the plant's health because they are less effective at photosynthesis, 275 00:15:10,159 --> 00:15:12,919 so they're not creating as much energy or food for themselves. 276 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:15,960 So over time, that can really really weaken a plant. 277 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,080 Not to mention that it looks kind of crummy, and 278 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,519 you don't really want that, you know, right in front 279 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:23,600 of your house in the middle of summer, looking sad. 280 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,840 So that disease tolerance is a really crucial part of 281 00:15:27,879 --> 00:15:31,399 our equation for figuring out if something can grow in 282 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:35,399 hot human climates. The second factor, again is the ability 283 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,240 to potentially withstand wet soil. Now I'm not talking about 284 00:15:38,279 --> 00:15:42,000 like soggy soil or flooded soil or anything like that, 285 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,720 but because plants in very humid environments are going to 286 00:15:45,879 --> 00:15:47,840 use less water, the soil is going to stay moister, 287 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,559 and so something like a panicle hydrangea, if it's not 288 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:52,679 using all of the water that's there, it can lead 289 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,919 to root rot. That's a plant that is very sensitive 290 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,759 to root rot. It's actually, along with needing winter chill. 291 00:15:58,799 --> 00:16:00,840 One of the reasons why lilacs tend to struggle so 292 00:16:00,919 --> 00:16:05,360 much in those hotter climates because they also need immaculate drainage. 293 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,600 Can't take it, can't take wet soil whatsoever. And again, 294 00:16:09,639 --> 00:16:13,320 you want a plant that's going to look great all season. 295 00:16:13,399 --> 00:16:15,960 You don't want something that's just gonna peter out or 296 00:16:16,039 --> 00:16:17,600 just be like, WHOA, I need to take a little 297 00:16:17,639 --> 00:16:20,320 break until things get better, because you could be waiting 298 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,320 a really long time and then this plant is not 299 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,960 pulling its weight in your landscape. So for our friends 300 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,360 in the sweltering South, I am going to share a 301 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,320 little list of some of our shrubs that are ideally 302 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:37,039 suited for your climate. Now, arid tolerant plants are very different. 303 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:40,919 We are specifically focusing on heat and humidity today. Some 304 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,480 of these plants can do well equally well and in 305 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,519 an arid climate, but really these are ones that kind 306 00:16:46,519 --> 00:16:50,480 of benefit from that humidity and are not set back 307 00:16:50,519 --> 00:16:53,240 by it. So my number one ongoing alphabetical. So it 308 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:54,960 does happen to be number one, but it also happens 309 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:55,919 to be a great choice. 310 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: Abelia. 311 00:16:57,279 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that plant. 312 00:16:58,559 --> 00:17:01,759 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a very I feel like because they have 313 00:17:01,799 --> 00:17:04,319 really showy foliage. They have like kind of a little 314 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:07,680 bit of a tropical vibe. And yeah, they're just really 315 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,039 easy to care for and they create all season long. 316 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,000 So we've been really working with a lot of unique 317 00:17:13,079 --> 00:17:15,319 abelias for those of us in the North, not a 318 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,640 plant we're typically familiar with. There are some hardier abelias 319 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,400 that you can find here and there, but they've just 320 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,480 never kind of taken off in the Midwest. But they're 321 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,759 shade tolerant, they're durable, they're very very deer resistant, fragrant 322 00:17:28,839 --> 00:17:33,200 grape plants. But I'm talking specifically about foliage abelias, like 323 00:17:33,559 --> 00:17:38,079 our varieties Mucho Gusto, which is a beautiful white and 324 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:43,319 mint green variegated variety. We also have Brilliantina, which is 325 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,680 yellow and green variegated, Poco Loco, which has yellow foliage 326 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,799 with pink red new growth. So it's kind of like 327 00:17:49,839 --> 00:17:53,880 a candy corn spiria double play candy corns spyria of 328 00:17:54,039 --> 00:17:58,160 super colorful plant. People are loving it. This Poco local 329 00:17:58,279 --> 00:18:00,440 abelia is going to give you a kind of similar look. 330 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,039 It's also going to be very very shade tolerant. And 331 00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:05,039 then this is the one I think you'd really love, rick, 332 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:08,240 and that is trace amigos avilia. Oh yes, it's kind 333 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:13,599 of got some some croton soft croton vibes for you, white, pink, green, 334 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:20,920 and yellow, and and all of these plants grow just 335 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,599 as a nice tidy mound. They are evergreen in you know, 336 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,680 hotter areas, semi evergreen and more mild ends of their 337 00:18:28,559 --> 00:18:33,640 hardiness range typically white, sometimes pink flowers trumpet shaped, attract 338 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,160 tons of hummingbirds and butterflies. These are just great workhorse plants. 339 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,559 They don't mind the humidity. They can grow in the shade. 340 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,880 Just durable and interesting and beautiful plants all season long. 341 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:48,039 Perfect mendo azaleas, the you know, that is one of 342 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:49,880 those plants that for all of you down there in 343 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,160 the South who are wishing you could grow, you know, 344 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,599 incredible hydrangea and panicle hydrangels like we do and lilacs 345 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,880 in all of that. There are a lot of people 346 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,359 who wish they could grow reblooming azaleas. Perfect in window azaleas. 347 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: They're beautiful. Yes, these are disease resistant. 348 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: Very disease resistant. This is an important factor in our 349 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,079 selection process, is that they're going to be able to 350 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,519 resist leaf spot in all of the diseases that kind 351 00:19:12,559 --> 00:19:17,920 of plagued old door varieties of azaleas. They love the humidity, 352 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:21,359 no problem whatsoever. They need good drainage, but moist soil 353 00:19:21,519 --> 00:19:24,759 and humidity. They are right at home. And because they're 354 00:19:24,759 --> 00:19:27,599 going to grow so much faster in that environment, you're 355 00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:30,519 going to get that rebloom better and faster because they 356 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,440 rebloom on as much new growth as they are able 357 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,720 to put on after their spring bloom. Now, my personal choice, 358 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:40,039 if I could garden in a hot, humid climate, my 359 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,039 life would be full. 360 00:19:40,839 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: Of camellias aw same here yep. 361 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 2: One of my absolute favorites. And just I mean they're 362 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,880 like the perfect plant, right, just that beautiful glossy foliage, 363 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,759 amazing flowers, dear resistant. You can get small ones, you 364 00:19:53,799 --> 00:19:54,519 can get big ones. 365 00:19:54,559 --> 00:19:55,039 Speaker 3: They're great. 366 00:19:55,039 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: So we have the Just Chill series, which is going 367 00:19:57,039 --> 00:20:00,640 to flower in the fall, and then the warm Heart series, 368 00:20:01,079 --> 00:20:04,960 which is a Camellia japonica or Japanese Camellia hybrid. These 369 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,279 things bloom. Are you ready for this? Twenty one weeks? 370 00:20:08,519 --> 00:20:10,599 Speaker 3: Oh in the year. Twenty one weeks a year. 371 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,279 Speaker 2: That's five months, So you know that's a great thing 372 00:20:14,319 --> 00:20:16,839 to have if you are in a hot you yes, 373 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,000 absolutely double take quins. We have great reports from all 374 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,880 sorts of hot and arid climates that these plants are 375 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,839 doing really really well for them. One of our favorite 376 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,000 plants here on the show El nino Chtelpa desert orchid. 377 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,799 Speaker 1: I want to talk about that further in a segment four. 378 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,839 Speaker 2: Well, let's do that, because there's a lot to say 379 00:20:35,839 --> 00:20:38,279 about it, and also I'm out of time, so I 380 00:20:38,319 --> 00:20:40,000 can't say anything more about it, and you know that 381 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:42,240 I want to do that, so I have to take 382 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,119 a little break. When we come back, grant to answer 383 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,960 questions in the mailbag and continue our discussion on heat 384 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:47,640 tlerant plants. 385 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: To stay tuned. 386 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: At Proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs, we know that a 387 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,200 better landscape starts with a better shrub. Our team of 388 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,319 experts tests and evaluates all of our flowering shrubs and 389 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,720 evergreens for eight to ten years to ensure they outperform 390 00:21:07,799 --> 00:21:12,039 what's already on the market. 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Creating's Gardening friends and welcome back 395 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,079 to the Gardening simplified show worhood is our pleasure to 396 00:21:28,079 --> 00:21:31,559 help you with your gardens questions, quandaries and conundrums, and 397 00:21:31,599 --> 00:21:34,440 of course celebrations, although I think it's maybe a little 398 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,799 early in the season for celebrations just yet. 399 00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: We're having some victories. 400 00:21:39,319 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, like all the rain. 401 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: My garden is looking better at this point than it 402 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,400 has like in the last two or three years, where 403 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,640 we have been in a drought or precipitously close to 404 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,519 a rout. So I count that as a win. But 405 00:21:53,759 --> 00:21:55,319 if you have a question that you would like us 406 00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:56,960 to answer on air, you can leave it as a 407 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,160 comment on our YouTube show, or you can reach us 408 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,640 at Gardeningsimplified on air dot com. There is a contact 409 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,079 from there. You can even include some photos. There are 410 00:22:05,079 --> 00:22:07,559 only so many questions we can answer at every episode, 411 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,400 so please do reach out to us at Prevenwinner's Color 412 00:22:10,519 --> 00:22:14,119 Choice dot com if we don't get to your question 413 00:22:14,279 --> 00:22:16,519 on the show, because we do care about getting you 414 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:19,720 the information that you need. But not everything is suited 415 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,359 for radio because you know, some people actually aren't watching 416 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,880 in YouTube and trying to explain things that they can't 417 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,440 see can be a little bit challenging. 418 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,599 Speaker 1: And that's when we have to paint pictures with words. 419 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: That's right, in ten minutes, which is the tricky part. 420 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,440 I could do it if I had a lot more time. 421 00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:37,279 But anyway, so what do we got into the mailbag today? 422 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,319 Speaker 1: Rick Carmela writes to us. A few years ago, I 423 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:46,960 purchased an heirloom seed packet of Nigella sativa from Jefferson's Monticello. 424 00:22:47,519 --> 00:22:50,160 I had no clue what they were, but we're so 425 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,160 wonderfully surprised when the most beautiful, delicate flowers popped up. However, 426 00:22:54,279 --> 00:22:57,559 they've taken over a big chunk of my perennial garden 427 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,480 and some of my lawn. Oh boy, how do I 428 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:05,319 prevent these nigella from receding? Cut the seed pods off 429 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,839 once they've dried, yanked the stems from the root. I'm 430 00:23:08,839 --> 00:23:12,000 in Zone seven, a long island. Love your show, Thank 431 00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:13,160 you right? 432 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: So, Nigella sativa is also known with the lovely poetic 433 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:21,759 name of love in a mist. Yes, isn't that such 434 00:23:21,799 --> 00:23:25,160 a great name? And they are beautiful. So they're typically 435 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,519 white or blue, and they have this five petaled flower 436 00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:31,680 and this kind of lacy foliage. I'm look at me 437 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,720 I'm painting a picture with words, and then when the 438 00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:40,359 flower fades, they turn into this cool ballooney like seed pod. Yes, 439 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,240 and I've been trying to get this thing to self 440 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,279 sow in my garden for. 441 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 3: A couple of years now. 442 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,039 Speaker 2: So Carmela, forgive me if I'm a little jealous, but 443 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,920 as someone who encourages self sowing annuals like this nigella 444 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,559 or love in a mist in my garden, I definitely 445 00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:58,480 know the feeling when things start to get out of control. Now, 446 00:23:58,519 --> 00:24:03,000 I will say most self sowers that we not all, 447 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,079 but most self sowers that we grow in our gardens 448 00:24:05,079 --> 00:24:08,079 that we planted from seed and have managed to establish 449 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:12,160 themselves and perpetuate themselves year after year. They typically are 450 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,000 pretty easy to remove. You know. We're not talking about 451 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,079 stuff with like, you know, obnoxious like grassroots or things 452 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,440 that go way down and you gotta work hard. Yes, 453 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,519 nothing like that. They're usually pretty shallow rooted and pretty 454 00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:27,319 easy to control. So I do think that hand pulling 455 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,599 is somewhat of a reasonable solution, depending on how many 456 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,440 there are. And I think that you're absolutely right, Carmelo 457 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,440 when you say should I cut the seed pods off 458 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,519 once they have dried, because first of all, I wouldn't 459 00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:40,680 even wait till they dried. I would just go ahead. 460 00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:42,480 You know, if you're sick and tired of this thing, 461 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,240 you probably don't even mind mowing them down when they're 462 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,039 still in flower, and never even mind if they don't 463 00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:49,599 get to the seed stage. But yeah, if they're green 464 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,960 and you can just kind of deadhead them, then you 465 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,079 don't have to worry if that's mowing the lawn at 466 00:24:55,079 --> 00:24:57,079 that time or just in that area to make sure 467 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,519 that you take those heads off so it doesn't self. 468 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:04,359 So the other thing you could consider is a pre 469 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,240 emergent herbicide, you know, and those are pretty easy to use. 470 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,559 There's typically little risk to non target you know, items 471 00:25:13,559 --> 00:25:16,559 in your garden. It's a granule that you sprinkle around 472 00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:19,880 and it prevents seeds from germinating. Now, the nice thing is, 473 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,759 I think with just one season of this, you're going 474 00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:24,559 to be able to take care of that plant and 475 00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:25,960 it will not be an issue anymore. 476 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,079 Speaker 1: I agree too, And my suggestion was going to be 477 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,559 corn gluten. Oh, I really do believe it works. Corn 478 00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:36,079 gluten is a natural nitrogen source for you. It's an 479 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,279 organic or natural type weed control not that it kills 480 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,400 weeds that are vegetative, but in the seed state and 481 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,400 keeps seeds from growing. And you can buy many different 482 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,440 labels of corn gluten. That's what I do. 483 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 2: And it's not corn meal, it's corn gluten meal. These 484 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,920 are different things. Yes, now I know that that's been 485 00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:59,839 used extensively for crabgrass. I did know that it was 486 00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:03,000 kind of a general pre emergent. Yes, okay, well there 487 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:03,359 you have it. 488 00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:04,759 Speaker 3: Give that a try. 489 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 2: You probably will need to go to some sort of 490 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,279 agricultural specialty store, not something you're likely to find just 491 00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:11,400 at the local hardware store. 492 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 3: But you never know. What do we got next? 493 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: Next up we have Kathy. She writes, I have a 494 00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:21,640 holy grail summerrific hibiscus. 495 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:21,799 Speaker 2: Oh. 496 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,079 Speaker 1: I love that plant that has been damaged by herbicide drift. 497 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:29,880 I live in mid Missouri, Zone six B. I have 498 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,119 no idea where this came from. Also affected my rows 499 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,160 of sharon, tomato and pepper plants. After about three weeks, 500 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,720 I finally can see that new healthy growth that's coming back. 501 00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:43,440 Should I prone off the damage growth on the top? 502 00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:48,400 If so, how far? Also will this affect the flowering season? 503 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,839 Speaker 2: Right? So, herbicide damage is something or herbicide drift damage 504 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,160 is something that I see a surprising amount and a 505 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,839 lot of people don't know what it is. So it's 506 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,400 not necessarily the plant was, you know, accidentally hit with herbicide. 507 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,680 It's that when an herbicide is applied, whether that's you 508 00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:08,440 or your neighbors, or a lawn service, or it could 509 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,279 be someone honestly houses away from you, it doesn't have 510 00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:14,880 to be even really directly in your vicinity, and very 511 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,559 very tiny aerosolized particles of the herbicide drift on the 512 00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:23,160 wind land on your plant and aren't enough to kill it, 513 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,519 but are enough to majorly disrupt to the growth, because 514 00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:29,119 that is what an herbicide is, it is a growth disruptor. 515 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,960 So it's just kind of enough to do some weirdness 516 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,000 to the plant, and it is weird. If you look 517 00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:36,720 up herbicide drift and do an image search for this, 518 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,319 you're going to see some crazy stuff. 519 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:45,279 Speaker 1: And it's a scary thing, Stacey. It's something that I'm 520 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,440 really attuned to, and you know, I'll always tell people 521 00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:53,960 you follow the label directions, make sure that the air 522 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,440 is calm if you're going to use this type of 523 00:27:56,519 --> 00:28:02,200 project product know what you're doing. Herbicide drift is the scary. 524 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 2: Thing it is, and like I said, it doesn't even 525 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,079 have to be you. You could be totally opposed to 526 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,880 using erbsides and never use it and it's just these 527 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,200 tiny little droplets. I do think that a lot of 528 00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:13,200 lawn services are probably the culprit because they are the 529 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,559 ones using more of the high powered equipment that's really 530 00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:18,440 going to be you know, shoving that out at a 531 00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:23,200 higher velocity so that aerosolized particles can drift. Obviously it's 532 00:28:23,519 --> 00:28:25,960 an issue for people who live in more rural areas 533 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,200 around farms and that kind of thing. It can be 534 00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:30,920 very common. So a lot of people will see herbicide 535 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,920 damage and think that it's an insect or a disease. 536 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,119 But it's very common to see this. So she sends 537 00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:39,839 some pictures, so of course those are on our YouTube 538 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,599 channel so that you can see them. And I think, 539 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,799 you know, it can sometimes be mistaken from mite damage, 540 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:47,640 but I think the fact that it's affected so many 541 00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:51,240 different plants all at once does kind of suggest that 542 00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:54,880 it was indeed herbicide drift. Now, whether a plant grows 543 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,200 out of herbicide drift in the same season or not 544 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,119 depends on many factors, how much it was hit, and 545 00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:05,480 the plant itself. I have seen some reputable sources say 546 00:29:05,519 --> 00:29:07,359 that plants, some plants will never grow out of it 547 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,400 and they'll always be kind of stunted. Whereas I say, 548 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,480 what I have seen help people through this, they typically 549 00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:18,720 have come back. So it's great that it's starting to 550 00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:21,960 put on some fresh new growth. Whether this thing is 551 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,279 going to flower or not this year, I can't say yet. 552 00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:29,000 It's too early for flower buds to start. The nice 553 00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:33,240 thing about the summarific hibiscus, they are indeterminate growers. So 554 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:38,599 whereas old fashioned perennial hibiscus were determinate, basically they would grow, 555 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,720 they'd reach a certain point, they'd set their a certain 556 00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:43,079 number of flower buds, open those flowers, and that was it. 557 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,519 Speaker 3: They wouldn't keep growing. 558 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,759 Speaker 2: The summarific hibiscus do keep growing, so that's why it's 559 00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:51,480 able to actually hopefully outpace that herbicide damage and continue 560 00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:54,680 to grow. But because they do continue to set their 561 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,359 flower buds on new growth, I would not recommend pinching 562 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,759 this back or pruning it back. 563 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: I agree, you know, August is still a long ways 564 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,640 off early August generally when they bloom, and the plant 565 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:13,279 being a native plant to North America, it grows pretty aggressively. 566 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,240 I would agree, I would step back and see what happened. 567 00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:20,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely would not recommend doing any cutting back 568 00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:24,880 of it. And I think what you can do is 569 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,599 you can give it some fertilizer right now and try to, 570 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,720 you know, make sure that it doesn't get stressed, to 571 00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:36,599 help it more rapidly outpace the damage from the herbicide. 572 00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:39,400 I tend to think that this is especially in a 573 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,519 perennial like this, where it's going to die back to 574 00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:44,079 the ground, it should be fine in the future. You 575 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,039 might miss a year this year, which of course is 576 00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:49,279 always very very unfortunate, but you know, overall, from the 577 00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:53,440 pictures that Kathy sent, they look like surprisingly healthy plants 578 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,200 that weren't really set back. Okay that heart And the 579 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,359 other thing about the herbicide drift is it tends to 580 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,720 impact the new growth. So whatever growth was kind of 581 00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:05,559 in bud at the time of the herbicide drift, that 582 00:31:05,759 --> 00:31:07,960 is a layer that's affected. So you very often will 583 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,039 get a plant that was growing just fine gets the 584 00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:15,480 herbicide drift has this little like blip of weirdness and. 585 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 3: Then continues to grow out of that. 586 00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: So if you're seeing unexplained growth, always something to consider, Stacy. 587 00:31:23,319 --> 00:31:26,039 Speaker 1: I want to get thirty seconds of advice from you, okay, 588 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,720 because I've been looking forward to this question. Amy wrote 589 00:31:28,759 --> 00:31:33,160 to us about sonic bloom wogila. I love those plants. 590 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,960 I love them, have them in my landscape. But she's 591 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,119 asking about pruning. Is it a plant you can prune? 592 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,519 I mean, is there a certain time you should prune them? 593 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: Yes? 594 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: I know people get really confused on reblooming shrubs, But 595 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:48,200 with a reblooming shrub, whether it's bloomeranging lilac or sonic bloom, 596 00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:50,960 a reblooming white gela, you're going to want to prune 597 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,119 it after its spring bloom. So let it bloom and spring, 598 00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:58,319 finish that up, and then go ahead and do your pruning. 599 00:31:58,359 --> 00:32:00,720 And Amy's asking about shaping her plants. You got a 600 00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:03,960 small mail order plant that hasn't been shaped very well, 601 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,400 so now it would be going on right about now, 602 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,319 it would be a great time to prune that, cut 603 00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:10,240 it back, and then as much new growth as the 604 00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:13,880 plant is able to put on between now. And you know, 605 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,119 creating its buds in about six to eight more weeks. 606 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,200 That's how much it will rebloom. 607 00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:22,039 Speaker 1: Amy, thanks for asking the question, because I had the 608 00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:23,400 same question, and now I. 609 00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:25,359 Speaker 2: Know I've been hearing from a lot of gardeners actually 610 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,200 lately about the sonic bloom whigela in pruning. So you 611 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,039 don't have to prune it, but if you want to 612 00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:32,839 prune it, now is the time. We're going to take 613 00:32:32,839 --> 00:32:34,799 a little break. When we come back, we are continuing 614 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:37,920 our conversation on heat and humidity tolerant plants, so please 615 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:47,400 stay tuned. Thanks for listening to the Gardening Simplified Podcast, 616 00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:50,240 brought to you by Proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs. Our 617 00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:53,319 award winning flowering shrubs and evergreens are trialed and tested 618 00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:56,279 by experts with your success in mind. Learn more at 619 00:32:56,319 --> 00:32:59,960 Proven Winners color Choice dot com. 620 00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:02,559 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. As we talk 621 00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:07,319 about heat and humidity and Stacey. For our YouTube viewers, 622 00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:09,640 I'm going to have Adriana drop in a picture of 623 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,559 me crossing the finish line at the Chicago Marathon October ten, 624 00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:21,119 twenty twenty one. You would think in Chicago in October, 625 00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:25,640 the temperatures would be kind of coolish and windy. Temperatures 626 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,559 were close to ninety degrees for the marathon with eighty 627 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,039 seven percent relative humidity. 628 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:32,599 Speaker 3: Ouch. 629 00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:36,319 Speaker 1: It was amazing. It was memorable. So I ran that 630 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,799 Chicago marathon. And we talked in the first segment about 631 00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:42,920 how I think, growing up as a kid, I was 632 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,599 acclimated to heat and humidity, so it doesn't bother me now. 633 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,200 A lot of plants are that way also, And in 634 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,519 segment two you mentioned one of my favorite plants, el Nino. 635 00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:59,359 Speaker 2: Yes, And you know, it's such an interesting example of 636 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,359 what I was saying in Plants on Trial about plants 637 00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:06,279 being tolerant of arid conditions or humid conditions, or in 638 00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:11,159 some cases both. So el Nino is a hybrid between Chalopsis, 639 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,920 which is a native to the American Southwest, also known 640 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,000 as desert willow, even though it's not really related to 641 00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:21,079 willows at all, is sometimes known as desert willow, so 642 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:24,559 a very arid climate plant. The other plant, the other 643 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:28,280 parent is Katelpa, which of course is blooming right now 644 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,280 for us in Michigan. I just saw an absolutely gorgeous 645 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,599 one in flower, and Katalpa is kind of native to 646 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,440 the southeast and south YEP, and it's really used to 647 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,760 the humidity. So by combining these two, the breeder, doctor 648 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,159 Tom Rainey of North Carolina State University, managed to come 649 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,719 to give Chilopsis desert willow the humidity tolerance of Katelpa 650 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,639 and so it's equally as good in hot and arid 651 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,639 climates as it is in hot and humid climates. So 652 00:34:57,079 --> 00:34:59,960 it's a really interesting kind of approach of developing human 653 00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:02,760 midity tolerance because like that's not something a lot of 654 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,440 people think of and they think of plant breeding. They 655 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,679 think we're just looking for different flowers or leaf colors 656 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,519 or sizes or things like that. But you know, this 657 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,360 atmospheric tolerance is a big part of what plant breeders do. 658 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. So you look at the native range and I've 659 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,480 been doing some reading on the plant because I love it, 660 00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:25,960 Stacy in my landscape and it said to me, Chalopsis 661 00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:30,360 is what you said, right? Native range south central Texas, 662 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,079 south to Mexico and west all the way to southern 663 00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:38,199 California and Baja California. I want to talk about hot. 664 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is amazing, the heart of hot and dry. 665 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,519 Speaker 1: So I've found with heat tolerant plants, many of them 666 00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:52,960 have similar characteristics, whether it's a silvery hairy foliage, succulent foliage, 667 00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:57,800 or maybe thin foliage. I love the super locust, the 668 00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:02,920 Onethra annual, all that proven winters has as a heat 669 00:36:03,039 --> 00:36:07,239 tolerant annual. It's an evening primrose. But many of these 670 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,960 plants have that. You look at Sunny Boulevard, the hypericum 671 00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:17,360 right yea has almost willow like foliage. Or you look 672 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:22,800 at my loved ornamental grasses, thin leaves with a mid 673 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,599 drib where they can fold on themselves, so they basically 674 00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:32,239 the plant to where their native too, has a tendency 675 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,960 to adapt to this heat. In humidity. 676 00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we talk a lot about adaptations to cold, 677 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,840 you know, retid in introducing their leaf surface and how 678 00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:44,599 conifers can kind of you know, put their needles in 679 00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:47,559 a little bundle to reduce the surface exposure to cold. 680 00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:51,000 But there are similar adaptations to heat and humidity and 681 00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:51,960 aridity as well. 682 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Scavola one of my favorite annuals. And if you 683 00:36:57,039 --> 00:37:01,400 look at Whirlwind or Star Diva, I understand it. The 684 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,320 plant is native. It's an Australian native and we both 685 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,360 know how hot it can get in Australia. 686 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, I always love to talk about 687 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,320 how the proven Winner's brand was actually founded on Scavola. Yes, 688 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,320 because it was popular in Australia. It was a hanging 689 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,440 basket plant, and it was about hanging basket plant down 690 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,039 there that people could grow in that very very hot 691 00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:25,239 climate and it would flower and if you were a 692 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,239 little bit neglectful with the watering, it wouldn't be totally 693 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,440 set back and die. And so, you know, plant explorers 694 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,519 here were like, hey, this would be great for America. 695 00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:37,719 But they were also like, well, with a name like Scavola, 696 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,000 who was going to grow this plant? How are they 697 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,119 going to know what's special about it? And that it's 698 00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:44,760 going to be able to tolerate the seat and then 699 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,880 it has all these great qualities. We need to market 700 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,880 this plant when we bring it over. So we are 701 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,599 going to ask growers to pay a little bit extra 702 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,480 a penny, two pennies, whatever, and we're going to make 703 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,039 a marketing campaign with that extra money to help people 704 00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:01,760 understand everything that this plant can do. And that was 705 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,280 the very first proven Winn's plant was a Scavola. 706 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. I love visiting the Plains states in the 707 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,480 United States, and of course how hot and windy and 708 00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:15,760 dry it can get there in the summer. And you 709 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:22,559 look at the panicoms, love growing them, or penstemen, all 710 00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:26,280 of these types of plants. I'm excited about dragon slayer 711 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,440 yucca in my landscape. That's a new, proven winter's variety. Also, 712 00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:35,840 I love Gompfrina's as a wonderful annual truffle of pink 713 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,639 in the landscape and stacy. If we're talking about heat 714 00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:42,039 and humidity, we probably should make sure to quickly touch 715 00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:49,280 on herbs also because basil, rosemary time all notorious for 716 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,199 their ability to handle sun and heat. 717 00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 2: Yes, and you know, some of those plants are going 718 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,159 to be very They're really going to need good drainage, 719 00:38:57,519 --> 00:38:59,400 and so they can be an issue if you live 720 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,280 in a very very humid climate. You want to make 721 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,280 sure that they're in full sun getting good air circulation 722 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,320 because you know, rosemary, as anyone who is attempted to 723 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,159 grow rosemary indoors can tell you, extremely susceptible to powdery 724 00:39:11,199 --> 00:39:15,400 mildew in less than ideal conditions. But yeah, I mean 725 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,760 they're very, very heat tolerant, and you know, the hotter 726 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,360 it is, the better they do them, and the more 727 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,320 herbs you get to harvest. 728 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they grow. 729 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: More mohave yellow. The per Slaine Porta Laca. I love 730 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,519 that plant. Great annual to use in your landscape. The 731 00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:38,719 Toucan cannas are great and Southern blaze red hot flocks. 732 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,800 It has Texas roots, great for attracting pollinators. I wanted 733 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,280 to ask you, Stacy, are you still proceeding with your 734 00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:51,480 hopes or plans to grow some more zenias in your lands? 735 00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:55,159 Speaker 2: Yes, they are sprouted and growing, and I know it'll 736 00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:58,639 be several weeks yet until I see any action, especially 737 00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:01,000 since I did unfortunately start a little bit later than 738 00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:03,280 I would have liked. So if that was also you, 739 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,239 you're in good company. But yeah, I mean I fell 740 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,199 in love with zindias last year and now I can't 741 00:40:08,199 --> 00:40:10,760 live without them because I want to go into my 742 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,639 garden and see them covered in butterflies. It was just 743 00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:14,559 an amazing moment. 744 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: I love that. And when you talk about trees, of 745 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,719 course you've got a touch on citrus, citrus being a 746 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,800 heat loving tree. But that brings me back to segment 747 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,559 two and plants on trial. I wanted use Stacey to 748 00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:33,599 give us a hed ucation on jazz hands, because this 749 00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:37,559 is one I haven't grown, but I'm thinking about growing 750 00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:37,880 in my. 751 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,679 Speaker 2: Landscape, right so, jazz hands Laura pedlum also known as 752 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,320 Chinese fringe flower, but a super popular plant landscape plant 753 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,559 in the South. I mean, if you are basically anywhere 754 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,800 from Georgia south and even all the way over into 755 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,440 California Arizona. Laura pedlum is an extremely popular landscape plant 756 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,280 because there are green foliage varieties, but it's the purple 757 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,079 foliage people love. And it's a really nice, dark, deep 758 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:08,119 purple with these cool fringy flowers that look like jazz hands. Yeah, 759 00:41:08,199 --> 00:41:11,679 it's a really beautiful plant. And the Jazz Hands series 760 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,239 came to us from Japan, which I can tell you 761 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,599 is a very hot and humid climate. So it's a 762 00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:23,320 great place for, you know, someone who is looking for 763 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,000 all of those traits, color retention during hot weather, long 764 00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:31,800 lasting flowers, a good shape, new habits, and especially jazz 765 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,719 hands variegated, which is the only variegated Laura pedlum out there, 766 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,320 And that is a great plant, especially, I think for 767 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,119 those of us who are looking for unique patio color, 768 00:41:41,519 --> 00:41:43,679 willing to take a chance on something like that. There's 769 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,280 really no other plant like it. It reminds me a 770 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,280 little bit of a plant that used to be kind 771 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,199 of popular. Is a summer color plant, but you can't 772 00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:55,880 find much more. Brainia also known as Hawaiian snowbush. I 773 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,440 think kind of like really beautiful white foliage with pink 774 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,679 and green dappled variegation. Almost looks like the Corona chiky willow. 775 00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:07,800 But it's a tropical plant, and that I feel like, 776 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,400 was everywhere, you know, twenty some years ago, and now 777 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,400 I haven't seen one in years. So if you're listening 778 00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:15,559 and you are grower, please bring that back. It's a 779 00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:16,239 really cool plant. 780 00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: And that's the point. There are so many great plants 781 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,599 for the heat. Luscious Lantana has performed wonderfully in my 782 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,400 landscape in pots. I love lavender. I think lavender does 783 00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:33,440 great in the heat. Guara false sunflower or heliopsis, and 784 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,559 I'm excited about forged in fire. It's a false sunflower 785 00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:42,199 heliopsis that's coming next year, dark burgundy to orange eyes. 786 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,480 And then of course you've got Tuscan sun Tuscan gold 787 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,800 raised for days, touch of blush, all really really great 788 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,559 plants that respond well to the heat. And then you 789 00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:55,719 got to quickly touch on setums. Also, people know them 790 00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:01,239 as stone crop, a large genus of plants hardy, very hearty, hardy, 791 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,480 many of them hardy to USDA Zone three. And then 792 00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:07,920 look at all the great new varieties that are out 793 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,280 there today with dark foliage, the rock and grow seedums 794 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,559 like back in Black, Midnight, velvet, coral, jade, lemon jade, yellow, brick, 795 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,440 road love seedams. The interesting thing about seedams, though, Stacy, 796 00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:24,880 is that I have found they are not dear resisting. 797 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 2: They are not and they're certainly not rabbit resistant. Yeah. 798 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,880 So the nice thing about them, though, is if a 799 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,239 little critter comes by and prunes off the flowers, at 800 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,679 least you still got a great looking plant. 801 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 3: That's right, That's what I tell myself. 802 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,079 Speaker 1: That's it. Well, when it's hot, it's hot. When it's not, 803 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,800 it's not. Hopefully you're able to enjoy the heat this 804 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,239 summer and your plants too. 805 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,559 Speaker 3: If it ever does get hot. 806 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: If it ever gets Stacy, thank you, thank you, Rick, 807 00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:55,119 thank you Adriana, and thanks to you for watching us 808 00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:57,920 on YouTube, listening to the radio version of the show, 809 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,400 or finding the podcast wherever you get your favorite podcasts. 810 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:08,119 Have a great week. M.