WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:05.960 On wz D. 2 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:11.320 Thank you, Dan Watkins, and I'm gonna enjoy it. Not 3 00:00:11.439 --> 00:00:14.599 that I didn't enjoy have enjoyed and on or brian on, 4 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:18.320 but this takes me back to one of the men 5 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:23.039 I personally have to tip a cap to that helped 6 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:26.280 me get into radio, that helped me get on WBZ 7 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:29.839 and that I used to enjoy listening to when I 8 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:38.520 was a civilian. I'm just gonna say, Sonya, welcome, old Sport. 9 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:42.280 Thank you, thank you. It's so nice to be with you. 10 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:48.280 It's nice to have you. And I'm asking you if 11 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:52.240 you remember the last time we were face to face. 12 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:57.920 I well, I believe it was at the movies. It 13 00:00:58.000 --> 00:00:59.479 was at the Friday night books. 14 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:01.799 Yes, it was free Friday nights. 15 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:04.040 Yes. 16 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:07.040 In fact, I went recently. I went. I hadn't been 17 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:10.519 in years, and I went back this past summer and 18 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:16.120 I and I was so sad. Yeah, you were. You 19 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:18.640 were one of the attractions for me besides the movie. 20 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:22.280 Well, thank you for saying that. I did that for 21 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:29.359 fourteen years in a row, and things happened. It was 22 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:32.200 time to hang up the holsters, so to speak. 23 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:35.000 You get a great thank you. 24 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:38.959 I thank you for saying that Let's talk about your dad. 25 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:44.359 Let's talk about peepers, Let's talk about the dumb birthday game, 26 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:49.599 let's talk about sounds in the night. For anybody who 27 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:54.879 may not have been around for Norm Nathan, explain to 28 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:56.640 them the magic of your father. 29 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:03.239 Well, I don't even know where to begin, because I'm 30 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:04.760 going to start breaking up a little bit. I'm going 31 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:07.159 to try not to do this because nobody, nobody wants 32 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:11.360 to hear me ugly cry. But he just was one 33 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:17.240 of the funniest human beings I knew, and everyday situations 34 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:19.479 he could twist them around and make them funny. And 35 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.120 he just always had a bright side to him. And 36 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:25.199 I know that his tagline was I want to leave 37 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:27.840 the world a little funnier than I found it, And 38 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:30.319 I think that he absolutely achieved that goal. 39 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:39.400 Of the things that I mentioned that were purely Norm 40 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:43.000 talk about his love of the peepers. 41 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:47.560 He would every single year, he would go out because 42 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:50.680 he was one of those people that live for warmer 43 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:53.800 weather like most of us do, and he would start 44 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:56.319 his countdown as soon as the days started getting longer, 45 00:02:56.759 --> 00:02:59.479 and as soon as the peepers it was peeper season. 46 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:02.159 He would go out and go out and near. We 47 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:05.800 had a bog and on our property and he would 48 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:08.719 go out and record the peepers. And to this day, 49 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:12.319 when I and he had he actually had a little 50 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:15.840 key chain made where you could hit a button and 51 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:19.120 it would make that sound. And I we must have 52 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:22.520 a couple of them somewhere in the house. But to 53 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:25.199 this day, every time I hear the peepers, I can't 54 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:28.319 help but think about my dad, that he's synonymous with 55 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:28.919 that sound. 56 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:36.719 Now, I told you a number of stories that I 57 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:41.360 heard Nor talk about on the air, and I talked 58 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:45.840 about one and you remembered him bringing back a promotion 59 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:49.000 from that. There was a movie that came out in 60 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:52.719 the mid sixties with James Coleburn. They did two of them, 61 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:58.680 Our Man Flint and In Like Flint and In Like 62 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:03.719 Flint had had a theme song called Your Fabulous Face, 63 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:08.039 and every now and then on easy listening stations you'll 64 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:12.120 hear it. And that movie shows up on old movie 65 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:18.120 channels a lot, and Norm was chosen as one of 66 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:22.959 I don't know a dozen people that the movie company, 67 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:29.959 twentieth Century Fox, I do believe, flew down to Puerto Rico, 68 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:35.519 where a lot of the movie was filmed and they 69 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:42.639 were asked to review the movie, and norm as tactfully 70 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:46.920 as he could, didn't really like the movie. He tried 71 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:51.120 to say nice things about it. But I told you 72 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:55.480 that story, and you added to it by remembering something 73 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:57.079 he brought home from that movie. 74 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:01.560 Go ahead, right, Well, he my father was not a shopper, 75 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:05.560 and so apparently I think he was given some kind 76 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:08.959 of straw hat, and I think he wanted to be 77 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:11.040 a big hit with my mother and he brought it 78 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:14.879 home and she was not impressed at the slightest and 79 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:17.920 she wasn't really a material person. But I do remember 80 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:20.759 that story vividly because she was really upset that that 81 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:24.720 was his offering after being away, you know, with you know, 82 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:27.319 on a pretty exciting junket, and that's what he brought 83 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:30.480 her home. So I will never forget that movie myself either, 84 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:32.360 And most people. 85 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:35.759 Know, but for those that don't. Norman was married to 86 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:41.319 Norma Nathan. The I column of the Herald page six 87 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:46.839 reference like from New York. That's what Norman Nathan did, 88 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:50.519 like page six does in New York. And she would 89 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:55.879 do celebrity stories and who did what to whom depending 90 00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:00.480 and they made a great couple, Norman Norman Nathan. 91 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:05.600 Yeah. She named them the Mockdown media couple because because 92 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:10.079 because the non mockdown media couple at that time was 93 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:13.000 Nat and uh Natalie and check. 94 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:14.120 And check Curtis. 95 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:17.199 Yes, yes, And. 96 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:22.199 I'm going to take a break in about two minutes now. 97 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:28.680 My producer said, you want a producer, your producer to 98 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:31.399 join us. Tell us who's going to be joining us. 99 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:36.360 So his name is Tony Nesbitt, and I with him. 100 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:39.360 Yeah, I know very well. 101 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:45.639 Yeah, well, so Tony Tony has has created he's cultivated 102 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:47.439 I don't know what the what the rape burb is, 103 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:52.319 but he's created a YouTube YouTube channel on my dad 104 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:56.560 and it's called Norm Nathan's Vault of Silliness with Tony 105 00:06:56.639 --> 00:07:02.399 Nesbit and he is cultivated over to one hundred volumes 106 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:04.560 of this so or episodes, I guess that's what you 107 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:07.480 would call it. And so I listened to it, and 108 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:09.560 it's just such a treating. Anybody who is a fan 109 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:11.759 of my dad's would would would love it just as 110 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:14.560 much because it brings back all those laughs. 111 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:19.160 Now I'm gonna suggest to people, I'm a minute away 112 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:22.680 from a break, if you want to call in and 113 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:30.839 talk Norm Nathan would Sonya Nathan Now, Sonya Nathan broad Street? 114 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:32.079 Is that your marriage? 115 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:34.319 Last name Brad brad Street. 116 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:38.560 Brad Street. I'm sorry, sir, that's okay. She is here. 117 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:42.279 We're going to talk about that old sport Norm Nathan. 118 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:47.279 Up to eleven o'clock. Please join us phone number six one, seven, two, 119 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:51.000 five four ten thirty or eight eight eight, nine to nine, 120 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:53.399 ten thirty. And I can't wait to talk to Tony 121 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:57.759 because I haven't spoken him in easily six or seven years. 122 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:01.079 And let's just take the break so we can get 123 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:06.240 it up the way asap. Time and temperature ten fifteen 124 00:08:06.839 --> 00:08:08.600 forty one degrees on Nightside. 125 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:12.800 Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World 126 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:16.079 night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. 127 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:19.199 Oh boy o, boy o boy, this is going to 128 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:24.439 be a fun hour. I've got Sonya Nathan, daughter of 129 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:32.799 Norm Nathan. I've got Tony Nesbitt, former producer here at WBZ. Tony. 130 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:33.639 How the hell are you? 131 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:35.600 Morgan? 132 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:36.240 Sonya? 133 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:38.200 How are you? 134 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:41.360 It's good to hear your voice. For those of you 135 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:47.120 who don't know, Tony produced everything here BZ Bruins, games, 136 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:54.120 Norm Nathan's show, News. He was mister everything in those days. 137 00:08:54.879 --> 00:09:01.679 Brud's David Brudnoy Peter read Dave Maynard. 138 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:06.639 On there was no end, no end to the way 139 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:10.480 the station used you. 140 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:14.919 Well, it's funny because you mentioned it. Thanksgiving us tomorrow 141 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:19.440 and happy Thanksgiving to both of you. There was definitely 142 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:24.399 uh I thank tonya my sister from another mister. 143 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:26.399 I was. 144 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:32.080 I remember driving in to do the Majord Show during 145 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:34.840 a little bit of a snowstorm early one morning on 146 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:38.039 Thanksgiving morning. I can't quite recall if that was the 147 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:42.399 day I was working sixteen hours and something like that. 148 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:44.519 I was doing like from five am to nine pm. 149 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:49.159 That was the only person. I was the only person available. 150 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:55.679 Giving You want to know something, I am in my 151 00:09:55.840 --> 00:10:00.200 home so when I say goodbye bye boss the at 152 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:04.440 twelve o'clock, I can walk twelve steps and be in 153 00:10:04.440 --> 00:10:05.080 my bedroom. 154 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:12.240 Wow, you I know, right, And what you've. 155 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:14.840 Left to have had that option back. 156 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:20.559 In the day, you know, I don't know. Because it 157 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:25.360 was such a thrill. I have to pinch myself sometimes 158 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:27.600 all those people that I got a chance to work 159 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:32.000 with and get to know and just be a part 160 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:37.720 of a great time in radio. So it would be 161 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:41.960 better to be there with everything than to be. 162 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:47.240 Will never be replaced. You've got magic. 163 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:51.440 Well, I was gonna say Tony would miss out on 164 00:10:51.480 --> 00:11:00.360 all my dad's really beautiful outfits if he didn't come. Yes, 165 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:07.679 because you really needed to witness my dad's wodrobe in person. 166 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:15.759 The plaid and the hay on the shoes being at home. 167 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:18.039 You just you can't get that it doesn't have the 168 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:18.639 same effect. 169 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:22.080 Well, I'm going to bring another I'm going to bring 170 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:27.080 another person into this conversation because I know all of 171 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:30.960 you knew him, and he knew your father very well. 172 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:35.440 Call from Brookline, Bill Winnaker, Bill, good evening. 173 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:37.600 Oh wow, that's cool. 174 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:44.799 Good evening, Sonia, Hello everybody you know Bow and I 175 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:50.320 considered Norm almost like a second father because we got 176 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:54.919 addicted to his radio show. This was before Busy Sounds 177 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:55.440 in the Night. 178 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:56.080 Morgan. 179 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:57.240 You must remember the show. 180 00:11:57.759 --> 00:12:00.080 Oh clearly I mentioned it. 181 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:04.919 Okay, I'm sorry, I'm late to the show tonight. But 182 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:08.879 Sounds in the Night on HDH, which is no more 183 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:10.440 HDH as far as I know. 184 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:10.639 But. 185 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:15.960 That show went into the wee small hours of the morning. 186 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:20.320 I was about twelve years old when I started listening 187 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:22.879 to that, and I would go to school every morning 188 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:25.919 like hop dead. I couldn't you know. I was up 189 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:29.440 all night listening because he played. He played all jazz 190 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:33.759 all night long, and I learned about the local organist 191 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:37.039 Joe Boucci who used to play on Route one and 192 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:40.840 different clubs, and it'd play Count Basie and it played 193 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:45.279 Oh Meltormee and Eli Fitzgerald and you name it. I 194 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:50.039 got an education between my father and your father, listening 195 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:54.399 all night long, just learning all kinds of great music 196 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:58.879 and enjoying your father's personality. Eventually, I don't know if 197 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:02.360 you know about this, son, but one of the TV stations, 198 00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:06.879 either four, five or seven, asked your father to make 199 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:09.519 a pilot for a show that would be just like 200 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:13.240 the Tonight Show, but come out of Boston. And so 201 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:17.960 Norm had my mother and father bo and myself play 202 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:21.360 on the show. We were one of the acts. We 203 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:23.919 thought it was going to come out, but they never 204 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.799 It never happened. But he had all kinds of nice 205 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:31.200 guests on that night, and you were a little little child. 206 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:32.639 I don't know if you know about it. 207 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:36.679 I had no knowledge of that. I'm so happy to 208 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:37.440 learn of it though. 209 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:42.840 Yeah, it was an incredible he was so witty, I mean, 210 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:45.039 he was a great, great host. It would have been 211 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:48.120 a great show, but they decided not to finance it 212 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:50.799 and go with it. But he did have us play 213 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:56.039 this big benefit fundraiser and Bo was only ten and 214 00:13:56.159 --> 00:14:00.080 I was thirteen at the time. But we get a 215 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:02.519 lot of special things with your dad, and we even 216 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:07.600 played at your house. You did, and yes we did 217 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:10.200 for a very special occasion. 218 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:12.360 What community. 219 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:17.039 U whe Where were you up like a farm up there? What? 220 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:17.960 What town was that? 221 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:19.360 Middleton? 222 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:20.399 Middleton? 223 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:24.559 Yeah, we came to Middleton. We played at Middleton for 224 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:27.000 like a s busnister or something like that. 225 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:32.279 You can't I'm rubbing all this, all these all these 226 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:33.519 stories about my dad. 227 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:39.720 That of that uh was a paper. 228 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:43.799 We never got to see it, you know, all the 229 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:47.879 all the years I was looking for it, and it's 230 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:50.120 got to be a lost tape or something. But the 231 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:52.679 show would have been incredible. He had great guests on 232 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.559 and we we played the music and oh it was 233 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:59.840 just I wanted to see that so much, but never 234 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:02.039 go to see it. 235 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:04.080 To begin to. 236 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:08.440 Search, it's one of the four one of the three 237 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:13.039 major stations, either four or five or seven. Okay, seven 238 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:15.600 is now not not the seven It was back. 239 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:22.759 Then, and don't forget back. Then five was hd H 240 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:27.799 that's right, seventy two it became CVB. 241 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:31.279 But it gave me goosebumps. If your dad did such 242 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:34.919 a great job, I mean that show could have gone national, 243 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:42.600 but they didn't want to finance at whatever station that was. 244 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:47.440 Your best guess place to start looking would have to 245 00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:52.240 be Channel four because they've stayed in the same building 246 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:54.039 TV wise. 247 00:15:54.559 --> 00:16:03.120 Yeah, so yeah, no, normal was all. I've been trying 248 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:07.320 to track that down for years. And while we're. 249 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:08.159 Well, she. 250 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:11.799 Told you your mother was so good to us too. 251 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:13.159 Over the years. She was great. 252 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:15.960 I did. 253 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:20.840 I did her a favor. One night she we were 254 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:25.120 playing at the Kennedy wedding well. Peter Lawford's thought I 255 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:31.320 got married to uh uh got married to Peter McKelvey. 256 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:32.639 Uh. 257 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:35.360 And so Peter Laffer was married to one of the 258 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:39.360 Kennedy sisters. And so we played on the compound and 259 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:42.240 your mother wanted coverage of that, but no one could 260 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:45.080 get in. So I took pictures of the whole night, 261 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:48.080 brought them to the Herald about two three in the morning. 262 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:52.039 They developed them. I was I never got my film back, 263 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:54.799 so I don't have those pictures. But they filled the 264 00:16:54.799 --> 00:17:00.159 whole column of the Sunday paper the next day to 265 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:08.920 Kennedy wedding. But I love both of your parents and 266 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:17.119 that's all I can say. Great people, Well, we loved 267 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:21.000 them dearly. Nor Norm was such a sweet man. I mean, wow, 268 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:22.599 what a what a wonderful man. 269 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:25.720 And I know I've told this story before, but I'm 270 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:28.000 going to do the best I can to be as 271 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:32.279 brief as possible with a break coming up. Norm was 272 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:37.079 working at HDH the summer of eighty Saturday nights. He 273 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:42.119 would do trivia on his show and Joe and Jane 274 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:46.519 Citizen I say it that way, meaning just the listeners. 275 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:50.720 He would pick and choose a variety of listeners to 276 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:55.400 be a part of the trivia panel, of which I 277 00:17:55.799 --> 00:18:03.640 got chosen uh to be a regular contributor. That fall, 278 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:09.319 Norm left HDH. You went to RKO. I had been 279 00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:12.640 bitten by the radio bug and I called Norm and 280 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:16.559 I said, Norm, how can we keep the show going? 281 00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:20.359 If if I wanted to keep doing trivia on the radio, 282 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:25.519 how could I achieve this? And he said, Morgan, there's 283 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:29.440 a thing called broker radio. Will you pay for your time? 284 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:33.920 You get your own sponsors, you own the show and 285 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:38.920 perhaps that is the way you could do it. I 286 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:43.039 took the lead. I began a show called Talking Trivia, 287 00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:49.279 which was on two am to four am Mondays, the 288 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:54.799 worst time slot in Ragiono. Yeah, that was, oh my goodness. 289 00:18:55.440 --> 00:19:04.160 And what happened within for my months well within yeah, 290 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:10.599 four months spring the Red Sox I went out on 291 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:14.559 strike with all of baseball and I got a chance 292 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:18.359 to join the station that covered the Red Sox in 293 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:22.319 those days. Its because they were desperate to fill time. 294 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:26.960 And that's how I got to be in radio. And 295 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:33.039 Norm spoke to Peter Casey here at BZ and said, 296 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:36.839 you know, at Morgan White Junior is pretty good, maybe 297 00:19:36.839 --> 00:19:38.880 you should give him a chance to come over to BZ. 298 00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:44.480 And David BREDNOI pretty much told Peter the same thing, boom. 299 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:50.720 That was all necessary to get me on this station 300 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:54.039 years later, So I'm. 301 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:59.480 I never heard that story before. So I'm glad you 302 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:02.759 told it. You You're you're the best trivia person I've 303 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:05.720 ever run across, because there isn't a subject you can't 304 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:07.480 talk about. 305 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:10.519 Thank you for that. But I have to do this. 306 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:14.759 Take a break because it's ten to thirty. We've got 307 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:18.119 news coming up. If Tony was here, he'd be yelling 308 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:19.440 in my earphones right now. 309 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:28.480 So let's say the three of you. Yes, you have 310 00:20:28.519 --> 00:20:29.720 a wonderful Thanksgiving. 311 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:36.640 Yeah, I'll bring you Bill. It's going to hang up. Bill, 312 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:39.920 Bye bye. Thank you for calling. Simon Temperature here on 313 00:20:40.079 --> 00:20:43.720 night Side ten thirty made it forty one. 314 00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:50.400 Degrees night Side with Dan Ray on w BZ Boston's 315 00:20:50.440 --> 00:21:26.839 news radio sound. 316 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:35.160 You're hearing our papers recording made by Norm Nathan somewhere 317 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:44.839 in the i'll say eighties and nineties, and the redistributing 318 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:51.960 of the sound is thanks to Tony Nesbitt, who has 319 00:21:54.200 --> 00:22:00.240 painstakingly that all of Norm's cuts and clips from back 320 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:04.720 in the day and made them available again. We have 321 00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:11.559 Sonia Nathan here and Tony is as well. So Tony 322 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:14.920 tell people how they can hear, because I think you 323 00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:17.119 have over two hundred clips of Norm. 324 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:17.759 I do. 325 00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:21.519 First, I wanted to say I know exactly where that 326 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:26.000 cut was recorded when, probably early nineties, like you said, 327 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:28.480 But that was Norm risking his life at the end 328 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:31.039 of his driveway in Middleton, at the bog that he 329 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:32.680 had at the end. That's why you hit the cars 330 00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:33.759 racing by as. 331 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:34.319 He was recording. 332 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:42.119 I hope it's worth something irridescent so people could see him. 333 00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:46.880 Yeah, you know, I don't know the plaid. Maybe he 334 00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:52.279 had some reflectors on, or he pocked the car down 335 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:55.640 there too before he came into work. That's every spring. 336 00:22:55.680 --> 00:23:00.440 That's where he got the cuts from. And now I 337 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:04.799 go out every spring and I record the peepers and 338 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:10.839 air them on the little podcast if you will, or rebroadcast. 339 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:13.519 Podcast that I do called norm Nathan's Vault of Silliness 340 00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:16.480 with your what. 341 00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:20.359 Are the call letters? Or how do you find that? 342 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:21.640 All? 343 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:21.920 Right? 344 00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:24.839 So it's it's on all sorts of streaming platforms, so 345 00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:32.359 you can find it on YouTube and Spotify, Amazon, Uh, 346 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:38.039 you know, pocket cast Cast dos just every whey pretty 347 00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:42.680 much everywhere good pods. iHeart that's a familiar name, I think. 348 00:23:43.400 --> 00:23:45.480 Yeah. 349 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:49.680 So yeah, it's every week I put out an episode. 350 00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:55.960 It varies in length anywhere from an hour to this week, 351 00:23:56.039 --> 00:24:00.200 we've got like ninety minutes, and I've got a whole 352 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:03.640 bunch of cassettes, some that from my own personal collection 353 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:09.400 and a ton of them that were just I mean, 354 00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:12.799 you want to talk about pains taking Lee and just 355 00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:15.480 the love and dedication that was put into this by 356 00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:21.200 a listener, Joan from Cooksbury, who is still with us, 357 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:24.359 and I'm still in contact with her today. And she 358 00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:29.759 recorded so many programs on cassette and she sent some 359 00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:32.279 to me, and she sent some to Jackhart. And now 360 00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:36.000 I have the entire collection of them along with I 361 00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:39.160 should say I should add Ed Mullen, who helped us 362 00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:43.319 host the Swell Music Quiz that we would do on 363 00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:45.960 like holiday weeks and when Norm would fill in on 364 00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:50.440 vacations during the week. I have a bunch of those 365 00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:55.279 as well. What I do I listened to them, I 366 00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:59.640 take notes. I freshen them up as much as I 367 00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:05.000 can the software that I had write in an opening 368 00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:08.640 clothes and put it out there. 369 00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:15.759 And Jack Hart listening, call in, call in and what's 370 00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:21.319 the lady from Tewkesbury's name, Joan? Joan, if you're listening, 371 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:26.880 please call in. And anybody listening who had affection in 372 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:32.839 their heart for Norm Nathan. We have about twenty minutes 373 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:37.880 of this subject to go. Please call in and Sonya 374 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.880 do me a favorite. Tell people what Norm was like. 375 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:45.400 He has just done five or six hours of overnight 376 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:50.279 radio and he comes in the house six thirty quarter 377 00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:51.240 of seven. 378 00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:58.720 Talk about that experience, Well, he a lot of times, 379 00:25:58.720 --> 00:25:59.279 I e. 380 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:02.079 It was I probably was sleeping when he came home, 381 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:05.720 and that that was one of the downsides of all 382 00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:07.720 of the different shifts that he had, because most of 383 00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:11.680 them were at night. However, he loved working at night 384 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:19.720 because he had a real distrust of bosses and management 385 00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:23.279 and so he he just thought this was well because 386 00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:26.319 right Tony he had all the freedom he wanted, which 387 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:28.839 was great. And that's why that was that was magical, 388 00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:33.799 magical radio that was happening during those those wee hours. 389 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:40.400 And if I'm not mistaken, both HDH and bz's management 390 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:44.880 program directors then let them play what of the music 391 00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:47.480 he wanted to play? Is that accurate? 392 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:51.759 Well, this was funny. But when I was a kid, 393 00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.440 I would he had to fill out these sheets where 394 00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:58.160 he would have to put in the songs that he 395 00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:01.200 was going to play during his his shift, and he 396 00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:03.720 didn't really want to do that, so he had me 397 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:05.759 do it. And I was thrilled because I thought this 398 00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:10.119 is really cool. And so I would, you know, make 399 00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:13.559 up all of the playlists for him for his shifts, 400 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:15.680 and I thought that was really fun. And he, you know, 401 00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:21.759