WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.400 Fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. Now 2 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:13.720 here's Nick Coffee. 3 00:00:18.239 --> 00:00:21.440 That's right five o'clock here on a Tuesday afternoon. Coffee 4 00:00:21.480 --> 00:00:24.559 and Company, fueled by Thornton's make sure and sign up 5 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:26.160 if you have not yet to become a member of 6 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:28.320 the Refreshing Awards program. There's a lot of perks that 7 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:31.440 come with it. For example, you can get four Monster 8 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:34.759 Energy drinks for just seven bucks right now. You also 9 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:36.920 save money at the pump I filled up earlier today, 10 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:39.679 and it's always nice putting that phone number in and 11 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:42.920 seeing the price get a little bit cheaper. Everything helps, 12 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:45.840 right with everything being you know, insanely expensive this day 13 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:49.399 and age. So again, Refreshing Awards dot com or you 14 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:51.960 can just download the app in your app store whether 15 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:54.039 you have if you have an iPhone or an Android, 16 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:56.920 you should be should be able to find it without 17 00:00:57.159 --> 00:00:57.920 without any. 18 00:00:57.719 --> 00:00:58.359 Trouble at all. 19 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:01.200 All right, So we've we've had many different conversations throughout 20 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:03.039 the day here on tax Day. And for those of 21 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:05.480 you that I'm sure have been worried about it, Austin 22 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:09.560 is he's working his way through. He's about to potentially 23 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:14.519 have his first you know, Uncle Sam annual check up 24 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:17.400 where he's not your where he's where Uncle Sam's not 25 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:18.480 beending you over right. 26 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:21.920 Right, he's actually he's actually given me a handout. 27 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:22.599 That's awesome. 28 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.400 And we also shared a really I mean this is 29 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:27.840 this is one of the things I love about radios 30 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:30.359 because you know that that's a story that I think 31 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:32.239 honestly was made for radio, because there's a lot of 32 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:34.439 people that have opinions on it. I'm sure one way 33 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:37.120 or the other. Austin was just a naive young adult 34 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:39.840 that didn't realize that whenever he got laid off here 35 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.920 during the pandemic, that you know, when he was told 36 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:45.959 to file for unemployment, they weren't necessarily taking into the 37 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:48.599 two account that he had another part time job, right, 38 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:51.680 So he filed front employment, got unemployment, and then later 39 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:54.480 you know, how many how long was it before you 40 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:58.000 got hit up by I guess your ups rep where 41 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:00.319 you work part time that said, look are. 42 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:02.200 You getting unemployment because you work here? 43 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:04.200 And you were just like, well, yeah, you know, because 44 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:05.840 a big chuck of my income was gone when I 45 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:08.000 got laid off at iHeart, but you know, because you 46 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:11.599 already had another job, technically you weren't supposed to apply it. 47 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:16.199 When did like how long into it was were you notified? Like, oh, 48 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:18.199 I guess I shouldn't have done that, and now I 49 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:20.280 need to worry about, you know, paying it back and 50 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:21.439 hopefully not get into trouble. 51 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:24.039 I think it was probably like five months. I think 52 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:26.199 I started in like April, and it took like a 53 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:28.800 whole review process everything like that, which is that's why 54 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.719 it's so baffled. Anyways, they had this review process, I 55 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:33.680 had to put in other places that I worked. I 56 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:35.800 told him I wasn't let go of ups. I was 57 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:38.280 just only let go of this. But I think I 58 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:40.680 got my first check probably in like June. I remember 59 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:43.759 it was around my birthday. And then I remember getting 60 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:48.759 the call around like October, so it was only what June, July, August, September, 61 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:51.800 about four or five months. So when they called me 62 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:55.000 and they hit me with the well, buddy, what are 63 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:55.479 you doing it? 64 00:02:55.479 --> 00:02:57.319 He kind of alluded to it just now because we've 65 00:02:57.319 --> 00:02:58.960 had at least three people that have texted in to 66 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:02.719 say that there would have been no real legal action 67 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:06.599 for them to to, oh really to like get you 68 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:09.919 in trouble because they gave it to you. Yeah, you 69 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:13.599 know it's what I thought technically, like, you know, I 70 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:17.120 could go and you know, if I put in the 71 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:18.719 wrong I don't even know. This is probably not the 72 00:03:18.759 --> 00:03:21.479 best example, but nonetheless, like it's their job to check 73 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:23.800 and see if you were qualified to get unemployment or not, 74 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:28.039 and they didn't do enough homework. And again like still 75 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:29.960 it was an honest mistake and just a young adult 76 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:33.520 being naive, not realizing that in order to get unemployment 77 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:36.039 you literally have to have like no job, yes, and uh, 78 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:39.080 and you just learned through a trial and error that 79 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:40.879 you know you got unemployment, but you weren't supposed to 80 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:41.159 get it. 81 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:44.000 I thought the whole pandemic really just kind of threw 82 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:47.120 off the precedence of everything back then. That's what I 83 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:49.599 was under the impression of, because I did know when 84 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:51.400 you go on unemployment, because I did try to do 85 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:55.479 it before years ago. But from what I understood that 86 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:58.080 you had to continually check in and say, I'm searching 87 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:01.120 for this job, I applied for this job, I'm doing this. 88 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:04.400 It's you're updating them on what you're doing to find work. 89 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:07.680 And I heard that that part was lifted, so maybe 90 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:09.479 that's I took that in the same hand in his 91 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:12.080 hand as me still having a job that I didn't 92 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:12.840 have to report. 93 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:15.280 I got oh, we were all flying by the seat 94 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:17.439 of our pants that when all this happened. I mean 95 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:22.199 it was you know, and I think it's I'm sure 96 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:24.240 I could do some digging and figure this out, and 97 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:26.160 it's if it was interesting enough to me, I probably 98 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:28.639 would figure it out. But if you end up getting 99 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:30.480 paid a lot of money and you don't really know, 100 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:33.240 like it was somebody else's mistake, the right thing to 101 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:36.000 do would of course pay it back, especially if it's 102 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:39.560 just an honest mistake. But like what legal grounds, Like 103 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:44.079 for example, Churchill Downs, who was Wes Welker who ended 104 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:47.120 up being overpaid by you know, I think twenty grand 105 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:49.920 or something. Maybe that's an exaggeration story, but at Churchill 106 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:52.240 Downs on Derby Day, Wes Welker was being I mean, 107 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:54.439 it made TMZ. There was all kinds of people posting 108 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:56.959 photos of it on social media because he's throwing out 109 00:04:56.959 --> 00:05:00.240 one hundred dollars bills to people. And he later said 110 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:01.839 straight up like part of the reason why he's doing 111 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:03.480 is because he won a big bet, but they also 112 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:06.160 overpaid him and he didn't say anything, and that Churchill 113 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:08.160 Downs has no legal I mean, I don't think they 114 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:10.160 have any legal right to like or I mean, I 115 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:11.720 guess they have a right to ask for their money back, 116 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:13.519 but like, I don't think they can force him to 117 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:16.120 pay that back. That's their mistake that they made. But 118 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:18.519 they put in some kind of like I think they 119 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:20.560 put like a press release together, like basically saying he 120 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:22.360 needed to give the money back, and it really turned 121 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:25.040 out to if my memory's correct, which it may not be, 122 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:27.199 it was just a really bad look for them to 123 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:29.240 try to bully him to give the money back when 124 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:33.000 in all reality, he's somebody of status that could probably 125 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:35.480 he probably has multiple lawyers on, you know, in his 126 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:38.360 contact that he could that they could tell him like look, yeah, 127 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:40.439 they don't have any they can say whatever they want, 128 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:42.040 like you don't have to give that money back, And 129 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:44.600 I'm pretty sure he didn't. So, you know, if somebody 130 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:50.000 wins the lottery and it's a mistake, like and I 131 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:52.399 guess there's levels as to how the mistake could happen, Like, 132 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:54.360 I don't know, just it's one of those things that 133 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:56.240 if I ever ended up And this is something we've 134 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:58.079 talked about on the show many years ago. If I 135 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:01.399 ever ended up with an un godly amount of money 136 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:06.439 for a random reason, like I found it, I stumbled 137 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:09.279 upon it, I would be scared because I would know 138 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:12.279 that I'm not supposed to have it. And you know, 139 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:15.879 if I randomly come across it, like hidden somewhere or 140 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:20.000 buried somewhere, I mean, they know where it is, and 141 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:22.600 they'll probably the people who hide that kind of money 142 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:25.680 would probably have resources to find someone pretty easily and 143 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:27.519 you know, get it back one way or the other. 144 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:30.279 But yeah, I don't think it's ever happening. But I've 145 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:31.759 never been lucky enough not to say you were lucky, 146 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:33.439 because I'm sure that was a headache that you're happy 147 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:36.839 is almost over with. But yeah, I've never randomly just 148 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:39.839 come across money, And you know, maybe one day that'll happen. 149 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:42.160 One time I was out of a club. Now this 150 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:45.160 is a prettoint time, man, You stay in the clubs, dummy, 151 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:49.639 stop it. Yeah, as a bouncer, maybe club scene, it's 152 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:52.639 you bro that I had a fun club scene during 153 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:55.240 the during the pandemic era that that was a really 154 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:57.240 fun time. Well, just going over across a bridge in 155 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:59.879 Indiana because those are the only places open granted that 156 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:01.480 closed at like nine or ten o'clock. 157 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:03.600 Are you saying we had tyrants around here? Is that 158 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:04.199 what you're saying? 159 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:08.240 Never mind a person that I know of, well, I had. 160 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:10.439 We were out on the dance floor and at one 161 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:13.319 point I remember looking down my buddy and nudged on me. 162 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:16.040 He said, hey, look on the ground. There's probably about 163 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:20.040 like seven hundred dollars worth of hundreds and ones on 164 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:23.120 the floor. And I'm sitting there going, oh my gosh. 165 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:25.839 Well he picks up like two of them and there 166 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:29.079 is I just remember in my mind, Nick, I was 167 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:32.319 a good guy, Okay. I picked up what I could 168 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:34.920 and I held it up and gave it to the DJ, 169 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:37.519 and I said, hey, I think someone dropped this money. 170 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:39.639 I knew that I wasn't supposed to have it, so 171 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:41.519 with you saying it just like that, like it seemed 172 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:43.680 too real to be true, Like it seemed like is 173 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:45.839 this a plant? Like am I gonna bend over right now? 174 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:48.439 And there's like somebody across the bar that's like, all right, 175 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:50.120 here's a guy that's taking it, and they're gonna come 176 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:51.360 check me afterwards. 177 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:52.839 By the way, that's what that happens. 178 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:56.120 It does people get caught on like hidding TV shows 179 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:59.279 or just social media videos where they'll leave it like 180 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:03.240 they'll they'll have somebody fake drop right one hundred dollars bills, 181 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:05.000 it's not that's not a realm one hundred dollar bill, 182 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:07.160 and see if you'll give it back to them or 183 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:09.360 try to keep it. And like, I mean, that's the 184 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:11.920 ultimate test. I mean, I I would like to think 185 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:14.279 that I would do the right thing, but I had 186 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:16.839 but you know, the money that was dropped probably the 187 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:18.079 DJ just pocketed, right. 188 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:19.600 He had to have he had. 189 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:24.399 I remember an announcement with the DJ making hey, did 190 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:27.759 somebody leave anything important that's not in their pockets anymore 191 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:29.519 because they just returned it to the booth, and I 192 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:33.240 remember one person going oh exploitive bleep and walk up 193 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:34.960 there and then he got the he got the money bill. 194 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:36.919 Okay, good, Well that that's good. That worked out good. 195 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:39.000 So well he probably had to say exactly what. 196 00:08:38.919 --> 00:08:41.039 It was or they wouldn't know. And that's how you 197 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:42.960 that's how you point like you said, the DJ. 198 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:46.960 So uh this something that this was probably this is 199 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:49.039 when we were teenagers. So my sister and I I'm 200 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:50.960 going to brag on her because I'll always when I 201 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:53.159 think of her. This is one of the things that 202 00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:55.240 always I think of when i'm you know, not that 203 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:56.960 I need to be reminded. She's a really good person, 204 00:08:57.480 --> 00:08:59.679 and you know, she's somebody that she's my big sister, 205 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:03.799 but we're really close in age. We're fifty one weeks apart, which, yes, 206 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:06.200 I was an accident. Nobody plans to have two babies 207 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:09.360 back to back like that. But anyways, I just remember 208 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:12.000 she did something that was a very. 209 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:13.320 Good deed in what you should do. 210 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:15.240 It was doing the right thing, and I remember thinking, 211 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.360 I'm not sure if I would have done that, but 212 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:19.960 I know what she did was the right thing. 213 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:21.879 So I need to strive to be more like her. 214 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:25.000 She was sixteen years old, she just got her license, 215 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:27.480 and she was at the gas station that is the 216 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:30.759 closest to our home, and she was getting gas and 217 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:33.279 I think there were two one hundred dollars bills that 218 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:36.679 just somehow happened to be sitting near her car on 219 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:40.720 the ground, and she picked them up and took them 220 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:44.279 into the gas station and gave them to the attendant 221 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:47.720 and said, I guess somebody dropped this, and I'm thinking 222 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:50.559 one at this I mean, I'm a year younger than 223 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:52.240 her at the time. I'm thinking, like she could have 224 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:54.799 kept that. Nobody would have known in two hundred dollars 225 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:58.000 to a sixteen year old that's big money. That's big money, 226 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:00.639 and especially back in you know, two thousan and four. 227 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:04.480 So I mean, we're talking twenty years ago, and I 228 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:06.039 don't know. I don't think I would have done that, 229 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:09.039 because I would have justified it by saying, you know, 230 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:13.159 it's not mine, but the person who left it's long gone, 231 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:15.720 and if I take it inside, it's just going to 232 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:18.679 go to the worker. And you know, I think in 233 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:20.639 her mind she just thought, well, I just know that 234 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:23.080 it's not mine. So if they take it and they 235 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:25.120 don't give it back to somebody who comes looking forward 236 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:26.679 and they keep it, that's on their conscious They know 237 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:28.519 they know they took money that wasn't theirs. And I 238 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:31.759 just remember thinking like, that's you know, And she didn't 239 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:35.519 even honestly, had I not known of it happening or 240 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:37.559 seen it happen, I don't think she would have told anybody, 241 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:38.559 you know what I mean, Like she didn't do it 242 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:40.080 to be like, hey, I'm great. She just you know, 243 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:41.879 she had a conscience about her and knew it wasn't 244 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:43.480 her money, so she was going to do all you 245 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:45.840 could at that point, which is to take it inside 246 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:48.759 and hope that the person working would in fact give 247 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:50.799 it to somebody who comes back and realizes they might 248 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:53.559 have dropped a couple of hundred bucks. So, you know, 249 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:55.799 I've never even been in that spot, but I'd like 250 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:56.960 to think I would do the right thing. 251 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:57.480 But I don't know. 252 00:10:57.639 --> 00:10:59.679 And here I am thinking, now, my parents raise me 253 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:01.480 a little better. So when I told my mom the 254 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:03.360 next day, I think you slapped me in the back 255 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:05.200 of the head and said, what are you doing now? 256 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:07.000 You're gonna ask me for money the rest of the week. 257 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:09.840 Yeah, I think, And honestly, like I think most people 258 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:11.519 would probably say the same. 259 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:12.799 Thing your mom said, Like you know exactly. 260 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:15.000 We live in a world of the act where we 261 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:17.679 want to we want to assume we would do all 262 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:20.600 these things that are just the right thing when nobody's looking, 263 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:22.360 because we have a conscience and we try to be 264 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:26.679 good people and whatnot. But until you're like tested with it, 265 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:28.360 you really don't know, you know what I mean, Like, 266 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:28.960 you just don't know. 267 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:30.799 This is at a bar out on the South End 268 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:33.120 in Oklahoona too. So I don't think like MTV was 269 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:36.840 there producing like a good samaritan. Shtcha this guy trying 270 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:39.799 to pocket the money two o'clock in the morning in 271 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:42.399 twenty twenty, you know, But I don't know, I just 272 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:44.360 have I have a goodness to me where I'm like, 273 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:48.399 what trigger is, Like you just said money that knowing 274 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:51.679 that I shouldn't have That's what sparked it more than anything, 275 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:54.399 is I know I shouldn't have this. This other person 276 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:56.360 probably needs it. But at the same time, if you're 277 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:59.440 flawting all that money at the club and you probably 278 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:03.200 you know, do you really need it? You could probably 279 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:05.360 you probably got some more somewhere body. 280 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:08.399 Another way to kind of, you know, maybe justify your 281 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:11.200 Like if you were going to take money and not 282 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:13.320 give it back, another way to where you could tell 283 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:15.679 yourself that it was just you know that what you 284 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:18.360 did wasn't wrong. Is that a lot of people don't 285 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:21.120 use cash anymore, So like if the cash was already out, 286 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:23.080 it was probably already spent that was going to go 287 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:25.360 to the bar tab, So like it's not that big 288 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:26.279 of a deal, you know what I mean. 289 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:28.840 That's like bank robbers who know. 290 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.919 That the the the money that's in the bank that 291 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:34.799 they take is federally insured, right, so like they don't 292 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:37.679 feel they feel like it's a victimless crime. But what 293 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:40.519 they don't realize is that when you are robbing a 294 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:42.919 bank and you have someone under the belief that if 295 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:44.200 they don't give you the money, then you're going to 296 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:46.519 harm them, and that you have a gun or even 297 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:47.919 even though you say you have a gun and you 298 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:51.399 don't like that is absolutely that's the crime there, and 299 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:53.320 that's something you have to be held accountable for because 300 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:56.120 that's a traumatic experience that can impact somebody's life forever. 301 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:58.120 So you know, there are I mean, I guess there 302 00:12:58.120 --> 00:12:59.960 are some victimless crimes out there, but I don't believe 303 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:03.840 that there are as many as you know, some people 304 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:05.840 think that's just what people say at times to justify 305 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:08.320 them doing whatever they do. To I guess sleep a 306 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:10.320 little bit better at night. All right, Real quick, we 307 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:11.919 got to get to our first break. We've got a 308 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:14.000 shorter hour here because the Bats games coming up. But 309 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:15.679 real quick, just to tell you guys where we've been. 310 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:18.360 Will continue the conversation as you move along, but a 311 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:20.960 lot of conversation about Nata meant today because we had 312 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:22.279 somebody on the text line ask you know, if it 313 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:23.840 came down to it and you just had to make 314 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:26.080 you could only afford one, and it was either making 315 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:28.559 Case and Prior hole and bringing him back with whatever 316 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:30.840 that cost, or paying natumant whatever he needs. I mean, 317 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:32.960 I think it's a no brainer to take Case and 318 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:37.159 Prior just because of where we are in college athletics. 319 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.320 If you can get both, hell yeah, but I would 320 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:42.279 prioritize more so making it work with Prior. But I 321 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:45.120 don't say that to say you gotta bend over backwards, 322 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:46.320 like if he and I don't think he is. I 323 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.039 think he'll announce that he's coming back here soon. 324 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:48.639 I believe that. 325 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:52.200 But you know, he's somebody that I think would help you, 326 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:54.039 and there'd be a better chance of him making a 327 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:57.720 big impact for you next season than Nata mint. But also, 328 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:00.320 you know, with Casein, if he did realize, look, I'm 329 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:01.559 not going to play pro. I need to get as 330 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:03.600 much money as I can, and I'm going to hit 331 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:05.480 the portal and see who throws the biggest amount of 332 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:07.320 money at me. You know he has every right to 333 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:09.240 do that. I don't think he will, but you know, 334 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:12.320 we shall see. But another thing we've got to talk 335 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:14.799 about on the other side is Mark Pope. Losing a 336 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:18.799 big transfer to Darien Devrees at Indiana doesn't mean Pope's 337 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:20.799 doomed and Kentucky's going to be in big trouble. I 338 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:22.600 think Pope's going to get it worked out, but I 339 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:25.480 do want to review on the other side, what was 340 00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:30.480 said about the programs by Wilkerson as far as his decision, 341 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:34.000 and as you could expect, Kentucky's already justified why they 342 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:34.840 don't need him anyway. 343 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:36.639 So we'll get into that. We'll have some fun with it. 344 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:38.159 Stick around right here on Sports Talk seven. 345 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:42.279 Ninety Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's 346 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:44.480 on Sports Talk seven to nine day. 347 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:48.080 I did not see this earlier, but Mike James, former 348 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:51.200 Louisville cardinal who transferred in se State only did not 349 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:53.840 play a single second because of injury. He has now 350 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:58.240 found a new home. He's transferred to Vanderbilt. So always 351 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:01.519 Mike's one of those guys that I always would have 352 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:03.840 loved to have seen get a get a clean I mean, 353 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:07.840 he had a really rough, rough run and has honestly, 354 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:09.840 since he's been a college basketball player. He was one 355 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:12.440 of those guys that Chris Mack really liked a lot. 356 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:14.240 But at the time they were recruiting him, obviously it 357 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:18.799 was the pandemic. So, you know, I think Max, I 358 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:20.559 think Mack told me that that Mike James was one 359 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:24.759 of the first guys that he really really felt like 360 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:26.360 was going to be great for him and he really liked, 361 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:28.080 but he'd never actually met him in person because he 362 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:30.080 couldn't go watch him play in high school because you know, 363 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:32.720 of obvious reasons. But he got here at Louisville, was 364 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:36.279 impacting in practice, got hurt, missed the whole season, and 365 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:38.759 then of course played two years for Kenny Payne and 366 00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:41.519 that was a disaster. And then last year was with 367 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:45.320 Kevin Keats at NC State and he didn't play a 368 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:47.639 second because he got hurt again. So hopefully he can 369 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:51.480 finish finish strong here, but he'll have I think two 370 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:54.639 years maybe three years of eligibility left, which is crazy 371 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:56.759 to think about. Also, real quick, before we get back 372 00:15:56.759 --> 00:16:00.639 into the Wilkerson decision to commit to the degrees at 373 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:03.759 Indiana instead of Mark Pope in Kentucky after Pope really 374 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:06.360 rolled up the red carpet. There's all the footage and 375 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:09.720 pit pictures of Pope with his letterman jacket on walking 376 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:13.759 around Keenland in the winter circle with Wilkerson. I mean, 377 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:17.759 you lose some it happens often. But with Kentucky, they're 378 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:20.879 not used to losing players to Indiana. I mean, when's 379 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:23.720 the last time that happened. So we'll get back into that. 380 00:16:23.799 --> 00:16:29.879 But nico Leola Maliva probably didn't say that right. But 381 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:32.360 you know who I'm talking about, right, Tennessee transfer who 382 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:36.159 was trying to get more money and really hold Tennessee 383 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:38.679 hostage and basically say you know, I might hit the 384 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:42.519 portlandunless you throw me more money. Well they didn't balk, 385 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:44.840 and they moved on. And now he's looking for a 386 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:47.639 new home. And I kept saying yesterday he'll probably get 387 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:49.679 it because somebody will be desperate this and that, And 388 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:52.240 it looked as if North Carolina was going to be 389 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:53.720 the school to do it. Belichick was going to come 390 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:57.080 get in, but that soured pretty quickly, at least the 391 00:16:57.120 --> 00:16:59.919 reporting of it that maybe Tennessee or maybe North Carolina 392 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:03.000 either just decided they didn't want him, or maybe they 393 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:06.319 didn't want to pay whatever he's asking for. But what 394 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:08.839 I threw out yesterday just wasn't something I planned to 395 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:12.359 bring up. But just the comparison I made was Deshaun Watson, right, like, 396 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:15.440 he got a crazy deal that nobody else would ever 397 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:19.359 get in the NFL. Collectively together, let it be known 398 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:23.759 to the players Association, to agents, to players, Look, that's 399 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:26.039 just the dumb ass Browns. Nobody else would do that. 400 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:30.279 Just understand, Yeah, that's the highest paid quarterback in the league, 401 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:32.440