WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.640 Diabetes dot org. Today, that's do I Have Prediabetes dot Org, 2 00:00:03.799 --> 00:00:05.440 brought to you by the AD Council and its pre 3 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:06.879 diabetes awareness partners. 4 00:00:08.560 --> 00:00:13.119 Broadcasting from the Tri County Board dot com studios. This 5 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:22.640 is Sports Talk seven nine day. It's time for coffee 6 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:27.079 and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. 7 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:34.679 Now here's Nick coffee. 8 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:42.719 You know, just looking at the numbers here, I guess 9 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:45.719 I should say the scorers from the NFL thus far, 10 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:49.280 I feel like we we've had a pretty good NFL week. 11 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:51.840 It's not over yet. You've got Dolphins and Rams tonight 12 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:55.799 for Monday Night football, but some some pretty exciting games. 13 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:59.240 It started Thursday with the Ravens and the Bengals. Obviously 14 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:02.000 that one worked out well for the Ravens and Lamar Jackson. 15 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:03.679 But if you didn't have a dog in a fight, 16 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:05.159 and you didn't wager on it, you just wanted to 17 00:01:05.200 --> 00:01:08.159 be entertained with a good football game. That one certainly delivered. 18 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:12.079 I wouldn't say that. The Panthers Giants yesterday in Germany 19 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:13.879 at nine am was like a great game, but it 20 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:16.239 went to overtime. I mean it was a close game. 21 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:20.439 I mean Chiefs Broncos. I mean that sucked that the 22 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:22.760 Chiefs were able to still hold on and win. They 23 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:26.480 have had their best start since this whole era, this 24 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:29.280 whole dynasty came together. This is their best start now, 25 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:31.840 being nine to zero on the year. But man, I 26 00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:34.959 feel like just watching them, they look as average as 27 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:37.120 they as they ever have during this run. I mean 28 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:38.680 they look they look kind of mid, but you know what, 29 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:42.239 they keep winning. And you know, even if they look 30 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:44.599 this way all year and still have a great season 31 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:46.439 and get a good spot in the playoffs with home 32 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:48.760 field advantage all that kind of stuff, if they turned 33 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:51.159 it on when it mattered most and Mahomes does Mahomes things, 34 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:53.959 then like, you know, I won't be surprised. But man, 35 00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:56.480 it just seems like they've had three maybe four games 36 00:01:56.480 --> 00:02:00.640 this year that you feel like, you know, I mean, 37 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:02.400 maybe this is just me being a hater, because I 38 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:04.280 am certainly a hater of the Chiefs, like they should 39 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.040 have lost, teams beat them. 40 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:07.879 I was just about to ask, are you over? Are 41 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:08.840 you done with the Chiefs? 42 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:09.919 I've been done with the Chiefs? 43 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:10.120 Yeah? 44 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:12.719 Have you met me? My God? Like I'm I mean 45 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:14.960 in my hate is more so just because I'm tired 46 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:17.719 of them being so good. Yeah, but that's how it 47 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:18.479 works in sports, right. 48 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:20.319 Do you think that they've gotten to that, because I 49 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:22.000 feel like we used saying and I used to do 50 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:24.159 the same thing with like Tom Brady and the Patriots, 51 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:25.919 like you were just you were just over it. But 52 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:28.000 I feel like there's something and it goes back to 53 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:30.719 your saying, they're sort of playing as average our ages 54 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:33.080 starting to show a little bit, like Chris Jones isn't 55 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:35.360 like the pass rusher that he was last year. 56 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:37.439 Holmes hasn't looked good either. 57 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:38.840 I mean, stats are terrible. 58 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:40.879 Again, you would thank you. I'm glad you said that, 59 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:44.000 because he's still being mentioned for obvious reasons in the 60 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:47.039 MVP race, but it's all based off of his career, 61 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:48.960 nothing to do with this year now. Again, I guess 62 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:51.080 if you're any other quarterback and your team is the 63 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:54.800 only unbeaten team left, you're gonna get some notoriety just 64 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:57.080 because of how much people are aware that the quarterback 65 00:02:57.080 --> 00:02:59.360 position is important. But I'm not sure how many games 66 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:01.400 they're winning. But because you're like, well, what will they 67 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:03.560 do without this guy? Now? He can still make plays 68 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:07.759 that a lot of people can't. But yeah, he's you know, 69 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:09.560 I don't want to disrespect him because as much as 70 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:11.000 I don't want the Chiefs to win, I do know 71 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:12.719 the Patrick Mahomes is a hell of a quarterback. But 72 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:14.719 like watching him this year and looking at his numbers, 73 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:17.599 like there's really not a whole lot there to be 74 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:19.960 worried about. But you know, if you know, you know, right, 75 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:22.039 he's a guy that'll the second you feel like you 76 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:24.159 may have him, you know, you may have them off 77 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:26.840 the field because it's third and twenty seven and you 78 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:29.240 know you brought pressure and there's no way they get 79 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:31.199 out of this. Well, then they do because that's that's 80 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:34.400 where Mahomes really shows that he's he's different. But yeah, 81 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:36.560 I was hoping the Broncos could get it done. 82 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:37.080 They didn't. 83 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:39.919 Some other I mean the Steelers Commanders game. That one 84 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:44.319 was awesome. And then last night, I mean, the Lions, 85 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:47.719 they keep winning. They're on fire right now. The Texans 86 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:49.879 really let that one get away. I mean it was 87 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:53.759 twenty three to seven at half and Texans don't score 88 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:56.599 in the second half and the Lions make a big comeback, 89 00:03:56.639 --> 00:03:59.879 And I really I love the story about this kicker, 90 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:05.039 Jake Bates, because I mean, it's not just the fact 91 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:08.879 that last night he made the game winning fifty something 92 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:13.319 yardfield goal in his hometown of Houston, Texas. I mean 93 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:16.160 that alone is awesome. I mean that enough is like, wow, 94 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:18.720 that's pretty cool. The kicker was able to get it done. 95 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:20.720 He's a young guy, probably the best moment in his 96 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:24.759 young career. But his story is wild, Like it's truly 97 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:28.000 something that you see in a movie. So he played 98 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:32.560 high school football as a joke. And let me explain. 99 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:35.319 So this was in that Yeah, this was in a 100 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:39.920 write up by Nolan Bianki, who covers the Detroit Lions. 101 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:42.959 He's a beat writer for one of their I think, yeah, 102 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:47.600 the Detroit News Detroit Daily News, and he shared last 103 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:50.199 night his column. But then he added something that says, 104 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:52.279 this didn't make it in the story. But Jake Bates 105 00:04:52.279 --> 00:04:55.399 told me during an interview this week that he jokingly 106 00:04:55.439 --> 00:05:00.879 started playing football in high school after securing a soccer scholarship. 107 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:04.600 And Nolan asked him, like, as a bit, like you 108 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:06.279 did it like to be funny, and he was like, yeah, 109 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:08.480 I just wanted to see what everybody how everybody would 110 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:10.759 react like I've never played football in my life. But 111 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:13.560 now soccer players are becoming kickers, Like, let's just go 112 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:15.920 see if they let me play, and they did so 113 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:19.879 he ended up playing I guess he played socka yeah. 114 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:23.439 He played college soccer at Central Arkansas in twenty seventeen 115 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:26.439 and twenty eighteen, and then he transferred to play football 116 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:29.279 at Texas State, walked on at Texas State where he 117 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:33.439 only did kickoffs, and then from Texas State he transferred 118 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:35.720 to Arkansas a couple of years ago in twenty twenty two, 119 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:38.279 once again only doing kickoff duties, and that was really 120 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:41.519 the first time he ever had any like legitimate football success. 121 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:44.800 He was first team All acc As just the kickoff guy. 122 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:47.560 So once his college career came to an end again 123 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:49.959 he was not a field goal kicker, he went undrafted, 124 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:52.279 of course most kickers do. He ended up signing with 125 00:05:52.319 --> 00:05:57.000 the Texans last July and was released within like a 126 00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:59.000 couple of weeks. Right, they got to look at his boot, 127 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:02.000 did love what they saw, they released him. So then 128 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:04.839 he ends up in the UFL playing for the Michigan 129 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:10.360 Panthers and did that for it looks like one season, 130 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:12.839 and he ended up doing well. He made a lot 131 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:15.040 of kicks He was named to the twenty twenty four 132 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:19.639 All UFL team on June fifth, twenty twenty four. And 133 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:23.879 let's see, so his contract with the team was terminated 134 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:26.439 in June of this year, which gave him the opportunity 135 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:28.839 to sign with the n NFL team. So again, the 136 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:31.439 Texans gave him the opportunity first because he's from there, right, like, 137 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:33.879 they got to look at him. Well. Detroit signed into 138 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:36.879 a two year contract this summer, and he was one 139 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:39.839 of only two UFL players to make it on a 140 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:43.959 fifty three man roster. And you know, here he is 141 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:48.240 being relied upon in a major way on Sunday Night football, 142 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:52.360 everybody watching, and he didn't even like he's literally kind 143 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:54.480 of just getting a feel like he was in the UFL, 144 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:55.959 just feeling like, hey, you know what, I think I 145 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:58.560 can make far field goals, Like I got a pretty 146 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:02.319 good leg. I've always played. They only let me do kickoffs. Well, 147 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:04.240 I think I'm pretty good field goal kicker. I mean, 148 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:06.920 he apparently made a sixty four yard field goal in 149 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:09.319 the UFL, which that'll clearly get you a lot of attention. 150 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:11.519 But for him to kind of come through like that 151 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:15.480 and be the hero, I mean, it reminds me of 152 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:19.319 stories whenever you you know, you see somebody in the 153 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:22.040 moment like that, and you can just imagine being able 154 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:24.240 to say, let's let's let's go back three years ago 155 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:27.319 and just see what you would say if I told 156 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:30.199 you this would be what you're doing right now, and 157 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:32.519 you know clearly they wouldn't believe it, and you would wonder, 158 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:35.959 how on what scenario in my life could I see 159 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:38.839 this playing out? Well, you never know, right, Life's crazy things, 160 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:42.959 things happen, opportunities come your way, you surprise yourself, and 161 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:45.079 you know clearly it would have been a bad night 162 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:47.000 if he didn't get it done, because kickers have one job. 163 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:49.480 But he got the job done last night, knocking in 164 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:54.319 a a forty four yard game winning field goal. And 165 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:56.160 I oh, I'm sorry, let me back up a second. 166 00:07:56.519 --> 00:07:59.079 So this wasn't his first gaming field go So in 167 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:02.199 week seven he had a game winner against the Lions. 168 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:07.160 I'm sorry, Austin the Vikings. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, so 169 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:09.399 they beat it, they beat the Vikings. Sorry, you're a 170 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:12.240 Vikings fan and that was a tough loss for you. Yeah, 171 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:15.560 So then after that it was yeah, we yeh fifty 172 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:17.600 eight yard field goal is what it was last night, 173 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:19.240 and then before that he had a fifty two yarder. 174 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:23.079 So the guy was awesome. And you know, with kickers, 175 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:24.879 maybe it was just a one time thing and he 176 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:27.600 starts missing because you just never know. Like kickers, I'm 177 00:08:27.639 --> 00:08:35.120 fascinated by this being able to kick it consistently a 178 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:39.360 certain distance. He had a pretty good feel for kickers range, right, 179 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:41.720 like Louisvill's had some really good Like Louisvells's best kickers 180 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:43.279 over the years have been guys that I don't think 181 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:46.559 are that good past forty yards, but man, if it's 182 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:49.799 less than forty yards, they're not missing many. But like 183 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:51.360 that wouldn't really get it done. In the NFL. You 184 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:53.120 need to be able to kick further field goals. And 185 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:55.360 there's some guys who, like you know, you've watched them 186 00:08:55.960 --> 00:08:57.480 all throughout their career and all of a sudden they 187 00:08:57.519 --> 00:09:00.200 just can't make it anymore. It's not about distance, it's 188 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:02.120 and it's you know, I guess it is accuracy, but 189 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:04.519 it's also got to be mental, Like it's just got 190 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:06.600 to be such a mental thing more than anything, because 191 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:09.879 if you're if you're even getting a chance to sniff 192 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:13.080 a roster spot, it's like a tryout as a kicker 193 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.080 in the NFL. You have to have something on your 194 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:18.240 resume that shows that you have the ability to at 195 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:21.639 least get it there right, but doing it consistently, not 196 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:25.000 you know, letting the big moment get in the way 197 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:28.519 like that's it's clearly a valuable thing because you know 198 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:31.200 you can do it. You can have moments like this 199 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:33.159 kicker Jake Bates had last night, so. 200 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:36.519 And if and in today's NFL, like especially you got 201 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:38.559 the head coach trust and everything like that, if you 202 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:41.600 have like two or three bad weeks, then you're probably 203 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:44.080 they're they're probably going the next man up too. So 204 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:46.919 and I think kicking is probably now as important as 205 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:49.519 it's been for a long time in today's NFL. So 206 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:51.720 it is a mental thing, like you just said. 207 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:54.480 Yeah, And I think I think what happens is, you 208 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:56.639 know guys who've been in the NFL for a long time, 209 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:00.679 gms and coaches, they're aware that what your actual asking 210 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:05.519 somebody to do, you know they can. So therefore, if 211 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:08.080 you're not doing it, you don't get many chances to rework. 212 00:10:08.120 --> 00:10:09.879 You don't get many chances to kind of work on 213 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:13.799 it during the season. During games, because again there's countless 214 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:17.720 guys that physically have the ability to do it. And 215 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:19.559 if you're not getting it done, they're gonna trust somebody else. 216 00:10:19.679 --> 00:10:21.320 He's not getting it don they're gonna trust somebody else. 217 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:23.080 And you just find somebody who's in a good mental 218 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:26.000 space that can get it done when the pressure's on, 219 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:30.080 and eventually that'll run out and you'll go to somebody else. 220 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:33.120 So you know, it's a good gig if you can 221 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:35.600 get it, but it's also, you know, a gig you 222 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:38.240 can lose pretty quickly with a couple mistakes or you know, 223 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:40.759 a bad game or two. All right, it's coffee and Company. 224 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:42.440 We are fel about Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven 225 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:44.120 to ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us here on 226 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:46.799 a Veterans Day, as you could expect a lot of 227 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:49.759 talk in the three o'clock hour about the basketball game 228 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:52.240 on Saturday. Props to everybody who went to the game. 229 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:55.919 The atmosphere was awesome. Just about everybody there seem to 230 00:10:55.919 --> 00:11:00.600 really follow the instructions. They understood the assignment where White 231 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:02.159 and I don't know why that stood out to me. 232 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:03.639 I'm sure it's a silly thing. It had nothing to 233 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:05.720 do with the actual game itself. But I feel like 234 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:09.720 we've had white outs, blackouts where you feel like the 235 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:13.639 fan base did a good job, but you still see, 236 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:17.600 you know, a certain percentage that's clearly Louisville fans, but 237 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:19.919 they didn't get the they didn't understand they were supposed 238 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:21.840 to wear a specific color, or maybe they didn't care. 239 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:24.759 But like everybody there, I feel like that was there 240 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:27.360 for Louisville. They were all wearing white, which isn't that 241 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:29.039 hard to do. But I'm just telling you, over the years, 242 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:31.200 I feel like, you know, I'd usually give our fan 243 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:34.200 base a B plus when it comes to it as 244 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:37.360 far as just understanding, hey, the school's really promoting and 245 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:39.840 trying to emphasize they want all fans to wear the 246 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:42.879 same color. B plus is typically what we've done. I'd 247 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:46.600 say a plus on Saturday because there it was mostly white, 248 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:49.120 in fact, about ninety nine percent white, and the fans 249 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:50.919 that were there they wanted to get they wanted to 250 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:54.080 get excited and cheer about something they really did, and 251 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:55.919 I think these guys were trying. I don't think it 252 00:11:55.960 --> 00:12:01.679 was because you know, they were loafing out there. I mean, 253 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:03.600 I know there are some instances and people have already 254 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:05.159 reminded me of this on the text line, and I 255 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:09.159 just I disagree with you, but there's really no way 256 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:12.000 to prove one person right or wrong. And I'm not 257 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:14.080 even telling you that you're wrong. But here's what I 258 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:18.200 just don't feel comfortable doing looking at a game, rather 259 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:21.639 it be in my seat as a fan a little 260 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:24.720 closer if I'm sitting in my press seat or watching 261 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:28.960 on TV. I think we believe we can watch and 262 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:33.919 have the ability to gauge the effort level, you know 263 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:37.279 what I mean. Like, just because somebody gets pushed around 264 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:40.840 like Tennessee did at times, doesn't mean those guys weren't trying, 265 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:43.919 And that can actually be a more demoralizing thing, right 266 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:45.919 because if it's not lack of effort and you just 267 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:48.200 get punked, that's a pretty big wake up call. And 268 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:49.840 I think that's what happened. I'm not saying that there 269 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:52.600 weren't instances where guys weren't ready to play and they 270 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:55.440 didn't match the effort that Tennessee was given, and they 271 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:58.240 certainly didn't match the physicality, But like, I'm not at 272 00:12:58.279 --> 00:12:59.919 all thinking that we got to be worried about this 273 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:02.240 team playing hard the rest of the year. I don't 274 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:05.960 think that that any Look, even if I did agree 275 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.519 with you and say, yeah, they didn't play hard, man, 276 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:11.559 I really didn't think we'd be worried about effort. Like, 277 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:14.639 even if I wanted to agree, even if I agreed 278 00:13:14.679 --> 00:13:17.320 with you in every aspect, I still believe that you 279 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:20.759 have a guy on your sideline that will get that corrected. 280 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:27.080 Like Pat Kelsey is a basketball coach, and I think 281 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:29.159 he's a good one. If you don't, that's your opinion. 282 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:31.519 I think he's proven to be a good coach. But 283 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:34.879 the whole experience with the previous regime, and I'm not 284 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:37.639 trying to, you know, make the well I guess I am. 285 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:39.639 I'm not really trying to make the direct comparisons, but 286 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:43.080 this I'm blaming on the person on the text line 287 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:46.000 that just is emphasizing these guys didn't play hard, which 288 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:49.840 again I can't change your mind, but I disagree. But 289 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:55.240 when it comes to what a coach is, again, there's 290 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:57.759 a lot of different ways to do it. You can 291 00:13:57.840 --> 00:13:59.440 be a coach that's a hard ash. You can be 292 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:02.200 a coach it's more of a player's coach. You can 293 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:04.080 be a coach that you know, there's a lot of 294 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:07.519 and look a lot of coaches, you know, there's not 295 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:10.080 like four different types of them, right, Every human being 296 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:13.200 on earth is unique when it comes to being an individual. 297 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:15.440 So your personality is a big factor of it too. 298 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:17.440 But at the core, you know what a coach is 299 00:14:17.879 --> 00:14:21.240 a leader. You know who was employed as the coach 300 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:23.639 but wasn't a coach last time? Kenny Payne not a 301 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:26.600 leader at all. So I don't know how many games 302 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:28.559 back else he's going to win this year or long term, 303 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:31.799 but I don't have any worry that if these guys 304 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:34.240 for some reason did come out and play a game 305 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:36.440 where they didn't give any effort and it was quite 306 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:39.399 clear he would address it, he would handle it. And look, 307 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:41.200 I hate even like going out of my way to 308 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:43.600 prop him up for that, because that's really the fundamentals 309 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:46.120 of the job. You are the leader you are, you know, 310 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:48.320 you set the tone. You are in charge of this 311 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:52.000 organization that is, in fact, the louisvill basketball program. And 312 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:55.120 I think these guys are still appreciative of the fans 313 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:57.480 that showed out, like I think, you know, I can't 314 00:14:57.519 --> 00:14:59.000 tell you what it's going to result in as far 315 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:02.600 as wins and losses. But I think everybody within that program, 316 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:06.120 top to bottom, all the support staff, all the coaches, 317 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:10.120 Pat Kelcey, all the players, Like I don't think they 318 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:13.840 feel like victims here. I think they're like, Damn, that 319 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:15.440 wasn't a good look for us. We weren't ready, but 320 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:17.559 we're gonna get better now again. Will they end up 321 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:20.679 taking advantage of other opportunities to win games like that? 322 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:24.559 Only time will tell. But there's just different levels of 323 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:27.840 like what you're worried about now compared to like everything. 324 00:15:27.879 --> 00:15:29.159 I mean, I don't even know if you were worried 325 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:31.120 at the end or even last year altogether because you 326 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:34.240 knew that that was never going to work out well. 327 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:36.240 Now we still don't know how things are gonna work 328 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:39.639 out long term with Pat. But it won't be because 329 00:15:40.039 --> 00:15:42.440 his guys aren't playing hard, and it won't be because 330 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:45.639 he's not putting every single thing. I mean, I think 331 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:47.759 what he said on Saturdays, every fiver of his being 332 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:51.919 is you know, they're gonna put everything they have to 333 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:54.679 get it figured out now Again. Results from that, who knows. 334 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:58.720 Only time will tell. But best case scenario here is 335 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:01.159 that you look back at this big twenty two point loss, 336 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:03.240 and it was a wake up call. And you think, man, 337 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:06.480 I'm glad that happened in Game two because they were 338 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:09.799 able to take that butt whooping, get humbled if it 339 00:16:09.840 --> 00:16:12.159 needed to happen, not even saying it did, and then 340 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:14.960 have a ten day break where they can really, you know, 341 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:19.480 work on some things and grow from this. Now ten 342 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:24.759 days is you know, not ideal for a fan for sure, 343 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:27.000 and maybe not even for Pat. I'm sure he would 344 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:29.519 like to get his guys out there sooner than just 345 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:31.960 ten days here. But I think given the situation, he'll 346 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:33.840 make the most of it. And you know, we just 347 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:35.759 have to wait and see if they do get better 348 00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:38.840 and start to take advantage of opportunities to beat teams 349 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:41.960 like Tennessee. Because here's the thing, the opportunities are going 350 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:43.960 to be there. I mean, they take off for the 351 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:46.320 Bahamas in a couple of weeks, and then when they 352 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:49.120 come back, they got Old Miss and the sec ACC Challenge. 353 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:54.240 Obviously they play Duke Carolina Kentucky all before December first, 354 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:58.120 I believe, or sorry, January first, which I mean ready 355 00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:00.519 or not, They're going to have these opportunities, and I 356 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:01.200 hope they're ready. 357 00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:04.720 One thing that I will admire is, you know, and 358 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:07.720 it's something that PK brought up on the postgame show, 359 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:09.720 is you can get down your down twenty points and 360 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:11.559 you're definitely out of it the last couple of minutes 361 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:13.359 and you could start to see some of the body 362 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:16.279 language off the players. And that's something that they corrected 363 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:18.119 during that last time out. That's something that he came 364 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:20.359 out and said that they even noticed that and they 365 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:22.200 wanted to change that. Hey guys, I know we're down 366 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:24.240 this amount of points, but they're still going to play 367 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:26.240 their tail off up until the final whistle. And I 368 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:28.200 hate that it has to come back to this and 369 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:30.839 or they won't play right, or they won't play And 370 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:33.039 there's always an next to it because this, you know, 371 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:35.400 there is some deaf and talent there on that bench. 372 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:37.680 But just the fact that you know, we're kind of 373 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:40.000 going back to the mother bear thing, well, we're just 374 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:42.160 trying to groom them into be better people and just 375 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:44.480 to be better competitors, just because that's what we haven't 376 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:46.440 had in a while and the last couple of years 377 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:48.839 under the previous regime. And don't we just love talking 378 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:52.039 about the ex wife, right, It's just like you never 379 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:54.880 saw that correction, and the body language was always off 380 00:17:54.920 --> 00:17:55.920 in previous teams. 381 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:59.680 Yes, and the one thing that not many would say 382 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:02.440 out but I would scream it. There would be people 383 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:03.880 that would try to tell me that it was going 384 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:06.279 to get better, he was going to fix it. Give 385 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:08.720 him time. How can he fix something when he told 386 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:11.039 us nothing was wrong, that this was just going to 387 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:15.319 happen regardless, and every embarrassing result, every embarrassing thing that 388 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:19.319 happened was just to be expected because he inherited something 389 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:21.359 that he claimed was broken. Like he was a victim. 390 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:24.960 His players became victims to where they just felt like, well, hey, 391 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:28.359 this is part of it, because I mean, because of 392 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:30.440 reasons I don't know, there was no scenario they should 393 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:33.079 have been as bad as they were. So with Pat, 394 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:35.960 I mean, I hope he figures it out. But if 395 00:18:35.960 --> 00:18:38.240 he doesn't, it won't be because he's not putting everything 396 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:40.200 he has into it, and it won't be because he's 397 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:44.039 refusing to accept that, like hits his responsibility. So all right, 398 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:45.400 quick break what I want to do. On the other side, 399 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:47.599 we'll get at the text on some good stuff coming in. Also, 400 00:18:47.599 --> 00:18:50.279 we'll talk some football. Louisville back in action heading to 401 00:18:50.319 --> 00:18:53.160