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Speaker 1: You know, just looking at the numbers here, I guess
Speaker 1: I should say the scorers from the NFL thus far,
Speaker 1: I feel like we we've had a pretty good NFL week.
Speaker 1: It's not over yet. You've got Dolphins and Rams tonight
Speaker 1: for Monday Night football, but some some pretty exciting games.
Speaker 1: It started Thursday with the Ravens and the Bengals. Obviously
Speaker 1: that one worked out well for the Ravens and Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: But if you didn't have a dog in a fight,
Speaker 1: and you didn't wager on it, you just wanted to
Speaker 1: be entertained with a good football game. That one certainly delivered.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. The Panthers Giants yesterday in Germany
Speaker 1: at nine am was like a great game, but it
Speaker 1: went to overtime. I mean it was a close game.
Speaker 1: I mean Chiefs Broncos. I mean that sucked that the
Speaker 1: Chiefs were able to still hold on and win. They
Speaker 1: have had their best start since this whole era, this
Speaker 1: whole dynasty came together. This is their best start now,
Speaker 1: being nine to zero on the year. But man, I
Speaker 1: feel like just watching them, they look as average as
Speaker 1: they as they ever have during this run. I mean
Speaker 1: they look they look kind of mid, but you know what,
Speaker 1: they keep winning. And you know, even if they look
Speaker 1: this way all year and still have a great season
Speaker 1: and get a good spot in the playoffs with home
Speaker 1: field advantage all that kind of stuff, if they turned
Speaker 1: it on when it mattered most and Mahomes does Mahomes things,
Speaker 1: then like, you know, I won't be surprised. But man,
Speaker 1: it just seems like they've had three maybe four games
Speaker 1: this year that you feel like, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe this is just me being a hater, because I
Speaker 1: am certainly a hater of the Chiefs, like they should
Speaker 1: have lost, teams beat them.
Speaker 3: I was just about to ask, are you over? Are
Speaker 3: you done with the Chiefs?
Speaker 1: I've been done with the Chiefs?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Have you met me? My God? Like I'm I mean
Speaker 1: in my hate is more so just because I'm tired
Speaker 1: of them being so good. Yeah, but that's how it
Speaker 1: works in sports, right.
Speaker 3: Do you think that they've gotten to that, because I
Speaker 3: feel like we used saying and I used to do
Speaker 3: the same thing with like Tom Brady and the Patriots,
Speaker 3: like you were just you were just over it. But
Speaker 3: I feel like there's something and it goes back to
Speaker 3: your saying, they're sort of playing as average our ages
Speaker 3: starting to show a little bit, like Chris Jones isn't
Speaker 3: like the pass rusher that he was last year.
Speaker 1: Holmes hasn't looked good either.
Speaker 3: I mean, stats are terrible.
Speaker 1: Again, you would thank you. I'm glad you said that,
Speaker 1: because he's still being mentioned for obvious reasons in the
Speaker 1: MVP race, but it's all based off of his career,
Speaker 1: nothing to do with this year now. Again, I guess
Speaker 1: if you're any other quarterback and your team is the
Speaker 1: only unbeaten team left, you're gonna get some notoriety just
Speaker 1: because of how much people are aware that the quarterback
Speaker 1: position is important. But I'm not sure how many games
Speaker 1: they're winning. But because you're like, well, what will they
Speaker 1: do without this guy? Now? He can still make plays
Speaker 1: that a lot of people can't. But yeah, he's you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to disrespect him because as much as
Speaker 1: I don't want the Chiefs to win, I do know
Speaker 1: the Patrick Mahomes is a hell of a quarterback. But
Speaker 1: like watching him this year and looking at his numbers,
Speaker 1: like there's really not a whole lot there to be
Speaker 1: worried about. But you know, if you know, you know, right,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that'll the second you feel like you
Speaker 1: may have him, you know, you may have them off
Speaker 1: the field because it's third and twenty seven and you
Speaker 1: know you brought pressure and there's no way they get
Speaker 1: out of this. Well, then they do because that's that's
Speaker 1: where Mahomes really shows that he's he's different. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I was hoping the Broncos could get it done.
Speaker 3: They didn't.
Speaker 1: Some other I mean the Steelers Commanders game. That one
Speaker 1: was awesome. And then last night, I mean, the Lions,
Speaker 1: they keep winning. They're on fire right now. The Texans
Speaker 1: really let that one get away. I mean it was
Speaker 1: twenty three to seven at half and Texans don't score
Speaker 1: in the second half and the Lions make a big comeback,
Speaker 1: And I really I love the story about this kicker,
Speaker 1: Jake Bates, because I mean, it's not just the fact
Speaker 1: that last night he made the game winning fifty something
Speaker 1: yardfield goal in his hometown of Houston, Texas. I mean
Speaker 1: that alone is awesome. I mean that enough is like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. The kicker was able to get it done.
Speaker 1: He's a young guy, probably the best moment in his
Speaker 1: young career. But his story is wild, Like it's truly
Speaker 1: something that you see in a movie. So he played
Speaker 1: high school football as a joke. And let me explain.
Speaker 1: So this was in that Yeah, this was in a
Speaker 1: write up by Nolan Bianki, who covers the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1: He's a beat writer for one of their I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Detroit News Detroit Daily News, and he shared last
Speaker 1: night his column. But then he added something that says,
Speaker 1: this didn't make it in the story. But Jake Bates
Speaker 1: told me during an interview this week that he jokingly
Speaker 1: started playing football in high school after securing a soccer scholarship.
Speaker 1: And Nolan asked him, like, as a bit, like you
Speaker 1: did it like to be funny, and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to see what everybody how everybody would
Speaker 1: react like I've never played football in my life. But
Speaker 1: now soccer players are becoming kickers, Like, let's just go
Speaker 1: see if they let me play, and they did so
Speaker 1: he ended up playing I guess he played socka yeah.
Speaker 1: He played college soccer at Central Arkansas in twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: and twenty eighteen, and then he transferred to play football
Speaker 1: at Texas State, walked on at Texas State where he
Speaker 1: only did kickoffs, and then from Texas State he transferred
Speaker 1: to Arkansas a couple of years ago in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: once again only doing kickoff duties, and that was really
Speaker 1: the first time he ever had any like legitimate football success.
Speaker 1: He was first team All acc As just the kickoff guy.
Speaker 1: So once his college career came to an end again
Speaker 1: he was not a field goal kicker, he went undrafted,
Speaker 1: of course most kickers do. He ended up signing with
Speaker 1: the Texans last July and was released within like a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Right, they got to look at his boot,
Speaker 1: did love what they saw, they released him. So then
Speaker 1: he ends up in the UFL playing for the Michigan
Speaker 1: Panthers and did that for it looks like one season,
Speaker 1: and he ended up doing well. He made a lot
Speaker 1: of kicks He was named to the twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: All UFL team on June fifth, twenty twenty four. And
Speaker 1: let's see, so his contract with the team was terminated
Speaker 1: in June of this year, which gave him the opportunity
Speaker 1: to sign with the n NFL team. So again, the
Speaker 1: Texans gave him the opportunity first because he's from there, right, like,
Speaker 1: they got to look at him. Well. Detroit signed into
Speaker 1: a two year contract this summer, and he was one
Speaker 1: of only two UFL players to make it on a
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. And you know, here he is
Speaker 1: being relied upon in a major way on Sunday Night football,
Speaker 1: everybody watching, and he didn't even like he's literally kind
Speaker 1: of just getting a feel like he was in the UFL,
Speaker 1: just feeling like, hey, you know what, I think I
Speaker 1: can make far field goals, Like I got a pretty
Speaker 1: good leg. I've always played. They only let me do kickoffs. Well,
Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty good field goal kicker. I mean,
Speaker 1: he apparently made a sixty four yard field goal in
Speaker 1: the UFL, which that'll clearly get you a lot of attention.
Speaker 1: But for him to kind of come through like that
Speaker 1: and be the hero, I mean, it reminds me of
Speaker 1: stories whenever you you know, you see somebody in the
Speaker 1: moment like that, and you can just imagine being able
Speaker 1: to say, let's let's let's go back three years ago
Speaker 1: and just see what you would say if I told
Speaker 1: you this would be what you're doing right now, and
Speaker 1: you know clearly they wouldn't believe it, and you would wonder,
Speaker 1: how on what scenario in my life could I see
Speaker 1: this playing out? Well, you never know, right, Life's crazy things,
Speaker 1: things happen, opportunities come your way, you surprise yourself, and
Speaker 1: you know clearly it would have been a bad night
Speaker 1: if he didn't get it done, because kickers have one job.
Speaker 1: But he got the job done last night, knocking in
Speaker 1: a a forty four yard game winning field goal. And
Speaker 1: I oh, I'm sorry, let me back up a second.
Speaker 1: So this wasn't his first gaming field go So in
Speaker 1: week seven he had a game winner against the Lions.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Austin the Vikings. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: they beat it, they beat the Vikings. Sorry, you're a
Speaker 1: Vikings fan and that was a tough loss for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So then after that it was yeah, we yeh fifty
Speaker 1: eight yard field goal is what it was last night,
Speaker 1: and then before that he had a fifty two yarder.
Speaker 1: So the guy was awesome. And you know, with kickers,
Speaker 1: maybe it was just a one time thing and he
Speaker 1: starts missing because you just never know. Like kickers, I'm
Speaker 1: fascinated by this being able to kick it consistently a
Speaker 1: certain distance. He had a pretty good feel for kickers range, right,
Speaker 1: like Louisvill's had some really good Like Louisvells's best kickers
Speaker 1: over the years have been guys that I don't think
Speaker 1: are that good past forty yards, but man, if it's
Speaker 1: less than forty yards, they're not missing many. But like
Speaker 1: that wouldn't really get it done. In the NFL. You
Speaker 1: need to be able to kick further field goals. And
Speaker 1: there's some guys who, like you know, you've watched them
Speaker 1: all throughout their career and all of a sudden they
Speaker 1: just can't make it anymore. It's not about distance, it's
Speaker 1: and it's you know, I guess it is accuracy, but
Speaker 1: it's also got to be mental, Like it's just got
Speaker 1: to be such a mental thing more than anything, because
Speaker 1: if you're if you're even getting a chance to sniff
Speaker 1: a roster spot, it's like a tryout as a kicker
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You have to have something on your
Speaker 1: resume that shows that you have the ability to at
Speaker 1: least get it there right, but doing it consistently, not
Speaker 1: you know, letting the big moment get in the way
Speaker 1: like that's it's clearly a valuable thing because you know
Speaker 1: you can do it. You can have moments like this
Speaker 1: kicker Jake Bates had last night, so.
Speaker 3: And if and in today's NFL, like especially you got
Speaker 3: the head coach trust and everything like that, if you
Speaker 3: have like two or three bad weeks, then you're probably
Speaker 3: they're they're probably going the next man up too. So
Speaker 3: and I think kicking is probably now as important as
Speaker 3: it's been for a long time in today's NFL. So
Speaker 3: it is a mental thing, like you just said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think I think what happens is, you
Speaker 1: know guys who've been in the NFL for a long time,
Speaker 1: gms and coaches, they're aware that what your actual asking
Speaker 1: somebody to do, you know they can. So therefore, if
Speaker 1: you're not doing it, you don't get many chances to rework.
Speaker 1: You don't get many chances to kind of work on
Speaker 1: it during the season. During games, because again there's countless
Speaker 1: guys that physically have the ability to do it. And
Speaker 1: if you're not getting it done, they're gonna trust somebody else.
Speaker 1: He's not getting it don they're gonna trust somebody else.
Speaker 1: And you just find somebody who's in a good mental
Speaker 1: space that can get it done when the pressure's on,
Speaker 1: and eventually that'll run out and you'll go to somebody else.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's a good gig if you can
Speaker 1: get it, but it's also, you know, a gig you
Speaker 1: can lose pretty quickly with a couple mistakes or you know,
Speaker 1: a bad game or two. All right, it's coffee and Company.
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Speaker 1: a Veterans Day, as you could expect a lot of
Speaker 1: talk in the three o'clock hour about the basketball game
Speaker 1: on Saturday. Props to everybody who went to the game.
Speaker 1: The atmosphere was awesome. Just about everybody there seem to
Speaker 1: really follow the instructions. They understood the assignment where White
Speaker 1: and I don't know why that stood out to me.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's a silly thing. It had nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the actual game itself. But I feel like
Speaker 1: we've had white outs, blackouts where you feel like the
Speaker 1: fan base did a good job, but you still see,
Speaker 1: you know, a certain percentage that's clearly Louisville fans, but
Speaker 1: they didn't get the they didn't understand they were supposed
Speaker 1: to wear a specific color, or maybe they didn't care.
Speaker 1: But like everybody there, I feel like that was there
Speaker 1: for Louisville. They were all wearing white, which isn't that
Speaker 1: hard to do. But I'm just telling you, over the years,
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I'd usually give our fan
Speaker 1: base a B plus when it comes to it as
Speaker 1: far as just understanding, hey, the school's really promoting and
Speaker 1: trying to emphasize they want all fans to wear the
Speaker 1: same color. B plus is typically what we've done. I'd
Speaker 1: say a plus on Saturday because there it was mostly white,
Speaker 1: in fact, about ninety nine percent white, and the fans
Speaker 1: that were there they wanted to get they wanted to
Speaker 1: get excited and cheer about something they really did, and
Speaker 1: I think these guys were trying. I don't think it
Speaker 1: was because you know, they were loafing out there. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know there are some instances and people have already
Speaker 1: reminded me of this on the text line, and I
Speaker 1: just I disagree with you, but there's really no way
Speaker 1: to prove one person right or wrong. And I'm not
Speaker 1: even telling you that you're wrong. But here's what I
Speaker 1: just don't feel comfortable doing looking at a game, rather
Speaker 1: it be in my seat as a fan a little
Speaker 1: closer if I'm sitting in my press seat or watching
Speaker 1: on TV. I think we believe we can watch and
Speaker 1: have the ability to gauge the effort level, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, just because somebody gets pushed around
Speaker 1: like Tennessee did at times, doesn't mean those guys weren't trying,
Speaker 1: And that can actually be a more demoralizing thing, right
Speaker 1: because if it's not lack of effort and you just
Speaker 1: get punked, that's a pretty big wake up call. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what happened. I'm not saying that there
Speaker 1: weren't instances where guys weren't ready to play and they
Speaker 1: didn't match the effort that Tennessee was given, and they
Speaker 1: certainly didn't match the physicality, But like, I'm not at
Speaker 1: all thinking that we got to be worried about this
Speaker 1: team playing hard the rest of the year. I don't
Speaker 1: think that that any Look, even if I did agree
Speaker 1: with you and say, yeah, they didn't play hard, man,
Speaker 1: I really didn't think we'd be worried about effort. Like,
Speaker 1: even if I wanted to agree, even if I agreed
Speaker 1: with you in every aspect, I still believe that you
Speaker 1: have a guy on your sideline that will get that corrected.
Speaker 1: Like Pat Kelsey is a basketball coach, and I think
Speaker 1: he's a good one. If you don't, that's your opinion.
Speaker 1: I think he's proven to be a good coach. But
Speaker 1: the whole experience with the previous regime, and I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, make the well I guess I am.
Speaker 1: I'm not really trying to make the direct comparisons, but
Speaker 1: this I'm blaming on the person on the text line
Speaker 1: that just is emphasizing these guys didn't play hard, which
Speaker 1: again I can't change your mind, but I disagree. But
Speaker 1: when it comes to what a coach is, again, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways to do it. You can
Speaker 1: be a coach that's a hard ash. You can be
Speaker 1: a coach it's more of a player's coach. You can
Speaker 1: be a coach that you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: and look a lot of coaches, you know, there's not
Speaker 1: like four different types of them, right, Every human being
Speaker 1: on earth is unique when it comes to being an individual.
Speaker 1: So your personality is a big factor of it too.
Speaker 1: But at the core, you know what a coach is
Speaker 1: a leader. You know who was employed as the coach
Speaker 1: but wasn't a coach last time? Kenny Payne not a
Speaker 1: leader at all. So I don't know how many games
Speaker 1: back else he's going to win this year or long term,
Speaker 1: but I don't have any worry that if these guys
Speaker 1: for some reason did come out and play a game
Speaker 1: where they didn't give any effort and it was quite
Speaker 1: clear he would address it, he would handle it. And look,
Speaker 1: I hate even like going out of my way to
Speaker 1: prop him up for that, because that's really the fundamentals
Speaker 1: of the job. You are the leader you are, you know,
Speaker 1: you set the tone. You are in charge of this
Speaker 1: organization that is, in fact, the louisvill basketball program. And
Speaker 1: I think these guys are still appreciative of the fans
Speaker 1: that showed out, like I think, you know, I can't
Speaker 1: tell you what it's going to result in as far
Speaker 1: as wins and losses. But I think everybody within that program,
Speaker 1: top to bottom, all the support staff, all the coaches,
Speaker 1: Pat Kelcey, all the players, Like I don't think they
Speaker 1: feel like victims here. I think they're like, Damn, that
Speaker 1: wasn't a good look for us. We weren't ready, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna get better now again. Will they end up
Speaker 1: taking advantage of other opportunities to win games like that?
Speaker 1: Only time will tell. But there's just different levels of
Speaker 1: like what you're worried about now compared to like everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know if you were worried
Speaker 1: at the end or even last year altogether because you
Speaker 1: knew that that was never going to work out well.
Speaker 1: Now we still don't know how things are gonna work
Speaker 1: out long term with Pat. But it won't be because
Speaker 1: his guys aren't playing hard, and it won't be because
Speaker 1: he's not putting every single thing. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: what he said on Saturdays, every fiver of his being
Speaker 1: is you know, they're gonna put everything they have to
Speaker 1: get it figured out now Again. Results from that, who knows.
Speaker 1: Only time will tell. But best case scenario here is
Speaker 1: that you look back at this big twenty two point loss,
Speaker 1: and it was a wake up call. And you think, man,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that happened in Game two because they were
Speaker 1: able to take that butt whooping, get humbled if it
Speaker 1: needed to happen, not even saying it did, and then
Speaker 1: have a ten day break where they can really, you know,
Speaker 1: work on some things and grow from this. Now ten
Speaker 1: days is you know, not ideal for a fan for sure,
Speaker 1: and maybe not even for Pat. I'm sure he would
Speaker 1: like to get his guys out there sooner than just
Speaker 1: ten days here. But I think given the situation, he'll
Speaker 1: make the most of it. And you know, we just
Speaker 1: have to wait and see if they do get better
Speaker 1: and start to take advantage of opportunities to beat teams
Speaker 1: like Tennessee. Because here's the thing, the opportunities are going
Speaker 1: to be there. I mean, they take off for the
Speaker 1: Bahamas in a couple of weeks, and then when they
Speaker 1: come back, they got Old Miss and the sec ACC Challenge.
Speaker 1: Obviously they play Duke Carolina Kentucky all before December first,
Speaker 1: I believe, or sorry, January first, which I mean ready
Speaker 1: or not, They're going to have these opportunities, and I
Speaker 1: hope they're ready.
Speaker 3: One thing that I will admire is, you know, and
Speaker 3: it's something that PK brought up on the postgame show,
Speaker 3: is you can get down your down twenty points and
Speaker 3: you're definitely out of it the last couple of minutes
Speaker 3: and you could start to see some of the body
Speaker 3: language off the players. And that's something that they corrected
Speaker 3: during that last time out. That's something that he came
Speaker 3: out and said that they even noticed that and they
Speaker 3: wanted to change that. Hey guys, I know we're down
Speaker 3: this amount of points, but they're still going to play
Speaker 3: their tail off up until the final whistle. And I
Speaker 3: hate that it has to come back to this and
Speaker 3: or they won't play right, or they won't play And
Speaker 3: there's always an next to it because this, you know,
Speaker 3: there is some deaf and talent there on that bench.
Speaker 3: But just the fact that you know, we're kind of
Speaker 3: going back to the mother bear thing, well, we're just
Speaker 3: trying to groom them into be better people and just
Speaker 3: to be better competitors, just because that's what we haven't
Speaker 3: had in a while and the last couple of years
Speaker 3: under the previous regime. And don't we just love talking
Speaker 3: about the ex wife, right, It's just like you never
Speaker 3: saw that correction, and the body language was always off
Speaker 3: in previous teams.
Speaker 1: Yes, and the one thing that not many would say
Speaker 1: out but I would scream it. There would be people
Speaker 1: that would try to tell me that it was going
Speaker 1: to get better, he was going to fix it. Give
Speaker 1: him time. How can he fix something when he told
Speaker 1: us nothing was wrong, that this was just going to
Speaker 1: happen regardless, and every embarrassing result, every embarrassing thing that
Speaker 1: happened was just to be expected because he inherited something
Speaker 1: that he claimed was broken. Like he was a victim.
Speaker 1: His players became victims to where they just felt like, well, hey,
Speaker 1: this is part of it, because I mean, because of
Speaker 1: reasons I don't know, there was no scenario they should
Speaker 1: have been as bad as they were. So with Pat,
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope he figures it out. But if
Speaker 1: he doesn't, it won't be because he's not putting everything
Speaker 1: he has into it, and it won't be because he's
Speaker 1: refusing to accept that, like hits his responsibility. So all right,
Speaker 1: quick break what I want to do. On the other side,
Speaker 1: we'll get at the text on some good stuff coming in. Also,
Speaker 1: we'll talk some football. Louisville back in action heading to
Speaker 1: the West Coast to take on Stanford on Saturday, and
Speaker 1: obviously Kentucky their game is against Murray State this week.
Speaker 1: I believe so not.
Speaker 3: I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Would love to hear if Louisville fans wanted to get
Speaker 1: weird like Kentucky fans get weird about like attendance and
Speaker 1: ticket sales and scanned seats and all that stuff, they
Speaker 1: might have forty people at their game against Murray State.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's an exaggeration, but like I would question
Speaker 1: your social life if you're a Kentucky football fan and
Speaker 1: you went and watched him play Murray State. Given the
Speaker 1: type of season that they're having now the next game
Speaker 1: at home against Louisill, that's a different story. But if
Speaker 1: you're just wanting to ride this season out in hopes
Speaker 1: that Mark Stoops is going to walk away and you
Speaker 1: guys can start fresh, start anew, he confirmed today that's
Speaker 1: not happening. In fact, he said there's zero chance that happens,
Speaker 1: which in a weird way. I think that probably disappointed
Speaker 1: some Kentucky fans. But we'll talk about all that and more.
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Speaker 1: Talk seven to ninety. Fresh off of bye week and
Speaker 1: a ten day break for the Louisville basketball team, we
Speaker 1: are back in football mode. We'll still, of course talk hoops,
Speaker 1: that's what we do around here. But Jeff Brohm and
Speaker 1: his team coming off of a needed bye week when
Speaker 1: it comes to getting guys healthy this late in the year.
Speaker 1: Obviously momentum on their side after finally breaking through and
Speaker 1: not just playing a really good team competitively, but you know,
Speaker 1: actually getting it done and winning their performance against Clemson.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping they can carry that over to two weeks later.
Speaker 1: I mean, they had a week off and now they
Speaker 1: get to travel across the country to take on Stanford.
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Speaker 1: driver dot com. I don't want to give this thing
Speaker 1: any energy, any life. I hope it's dead, but I
Speaker 1: think Jeff needs to beat Stanford to kill it. And
Speaker 1: what I mean by it is the pattern. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's a streak, but it's certainly been a
Speaker 1: pattern in Jeff's time as a head coach where he
Speaker 1: will pull off a big time win and then they'll
Speaker 1: lose to a team that they really don't have any
Speaker 1: business losing to. It was last year after they beat
Speaker 1: Notre Dame and then they went to pitt And I
Speaker 1: give Jeff a lot of credit last year in the
Speaker 1: press conference, he brought it up like he knew that
Speaker 1: his team's and he wasn't blaming his players, but like
Speaker 1: he in some way brought it up in the press
Speaker 1: conference about how yeah, I mean, we got to stay
Speaker 1: focused because each week you got to I mean, he
Speaker 1: gave you the coach speak that Jeff typically gives you.
Speaker 1: But like he wasn't offended or bothered or surprised that,
Speaker 1: you know, that's a talking point about him as a
Speaker 1: coach because it is unusual. I mean, he's been a
Speaker 1: good enough coach to where he clearly has a pretty
Speaker 1: good reputation in the college football world, and people know
Speaker 1: the man. Some games, like the Clemson games set up
Speaker 1: to where brom can just go get it done because
Speaker 1: that's what he has proven to be able to do
Speaker 1: at different schools. But then don't be surprised if he
Speaker 1: turns around and loses the next game to a nobody,
Speaker 1: so like he wants. He knows that it's a real thing,
Speaker 1: and he wants it to end more than anybody. He
Speaker 1: wants that pattern to no longer be referenced. But here's
Speaker 1: your opportunity.
Speaker 3: Go win.
Speaker 1: Be the better team that you know you have. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're favored by twenty points in this game against a
Speaker 1: bad Stanford team who won their first acc game beat Syracuse.
Speaker 1: That's Syracuse, and look pretty good doing it. I only
Speaker 1: remember that because I got my ass kicked that night
Speaker 1: when it comes to betting, because I felt like Syracuse
Speaker 1: was in a good place, and sure enough, Stanford came
Speaker 1: in and beat him. I don't think Stanford's won an
Speaker 1: ACCAM since then, so you know, it's truly a take
Speaker 1: care of business game. Stanford's the first team you've played
Speaker 1: I believe in. I mean, honestly since you played Jacksonville
Speaker 1: State in your second game. This is the first time
Speaker 1: you've got an opponent where I'm not really looking at
Speaker 1: what they do and looking at their personnel and looking
Speaker 1: at their results. And I shouldn't say that. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you there's no scenario Louisville loses because we know they can.
Speaker 1: This has happened before. But like, there's not any thing
Speaker 1: about them that you got to be worried about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got a quarterback who can run a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I mean he's run and they've still gotten their
Speaker 1: ass kicked more often than not on Saturday. So you
Speaker 1: know you're better just go take care of business. And
Speaker 1: I just, you know, I get why the whole pattern
Speaker 1: has been brought up about avoiding the letdown after a
Speaker 1: big win. But the only way to completely like not
Speaker 1: have the PTSD that you have as Louisville fans because
Speaker 1: of what happened last year against Pitt is for just
Speaker 1: them to go out there and take care of business.
Speaker 1: And my hope after the Boston College win was that
Speaker 1: that win not because of who you beat or how
Speaker 1: you did it, but what played out in the process.
Speaker 1: That was a chance for these guys to kind of
Speaker 1: put it all together. They're down twenty one to nothing
Speaker 1: in the first half. Had Boston College, we all collectively,
Speaker 1: as Loisvill fans, I feel like, felt like the season
Speaker 1: had crumbled right before our eyes when that happened. And
Speaker 1: sure enough, they come out in the second half and
Speaker 1: the defense was different. The offense has been good enough
Speaker 1: and in fact, sometimes it's really good, and they carried
Speaker 1: it over. They carried it over to Clemson and now
Speaker 1: I've see no reason why they can't keep that momentum going.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're favored by twenty points as we speak.
Speaker 1: So as far as what Miami's lost means for Louisville,
Speaker 1: nothing really. And by the way, there are five teams
Speaker 1: ranked in the top twenty that all lost. You had
Speaker 1: Georgia lose to Ole Miss. Got that one wrong. It's
Speaker 1: the first real big time I mean that. I think
Speaker 1: I was justified in taking ole Miss. I'm sorry taking
Speaker 1: Georgia because Lanekiffin has been in that moment, has been
Speaker 1: in that in that spot at ole Miss for at least,
Speaker 1: you know, probably at least four or five times since
Speaker 1: he's been there. Where Hey, they're good, but man, can
Speaker 1: Lane get over the hump? Can he actually win a
Speaker 1: game against a big time team that they're not supposed
Speaker 1: to beat and he'd never done it, and then he
Speaker 1: did it on Saturday, So perhaps to ole miss Miami.
Speaker 1: They lost to who got him Georgia Time. Yeah, Georgia Tach.
Speaker 1: I don't wh I was blanking on that. So they
Speaker 1: lost to Georgia Tech. They you know, they were playing
Speaker 1: with I mean, this Miami team looked like they were
Speaker 1: I mean, they probably should have a few losses, but
Speaker 1: you know what, they found ways to hold on and win.
Speaker 1: But they couldn't get it done against Georgia Tech. LSU
Speaker 1: they lose to Alabama they were ranked fifteenth. Iowa State
Speaker 1: loses again. That's not good for Matt Campbell. And then
Speaker 1: Pitt they lose at home to Virginia looking a little more,
Speaker 1: you know, they're coming back down to the real world
Speaker 1: a little bit. They got a great they got off
Speaker 1: to a great start, but Pitt a couple of pretty
Speaker 1: poor results in these last two games, which bodes well
Speaker 1: for Louisvill because that's who Louisville will finish up the
Speaker 1: home slate against next Saturday, when they take on Pitt
Speaker 1: at three thirty or four o'clock. I think we'll know
Speaker 1: on Saturday what the actual kickoff time is going to be.
Speaker 1: But it's relatively it's relatively the same thing. It's either
Speaker 1: going to be three thirty or four o'clock, depending on
Speaker 1: which which of the TV networks it ends up, well,
Speaker 1: which of the which of the channels it ends up
Speaker 1: within the ESPN family of networks. So Miami losing as
Speaker 1: far as the ACC really doesn't change a whole lot
Speaker 1: because right now, I mean for Louisville, I mean it
Speaker 1: does for the rest of the ACC see at least
Speaker 1: some teams. But Kelly Dickey, U ofl Statistical Guru, you
Speaker 1: can follow him on Twitter at Real Card Game. He's
Speaker 1: always providing good info and stats, but also you know,
Speaker 1: doing research that you know. I wouldn't even be able
Speaker 1: to know how to find this out. But Louisville will
Speaker 1: have a fifteen percent chance of making the AEC Championship
Speaker 1: Game if they beat Stanford and Pittsburgh because of the
Speaker 1: possibility of three or more teams tying at six and two.
Speaker 1: Louisville would win a multi team tiebreaker with Miami and
Speaker 1: Clemson because those three teams didn't play each other and
Speaker 1: have no common opponents, causing the tie breaker to be
Speaker 1: the combined win percentage of acc opponents. So Louisville wins out,
Speaker 1: they'll they'll be a two loss team. Right now, you
Speaker 1: have no unbeaten teams other than SMU, so SMU's by themselves,
Speaker 1: and if you ended up having a bunch of two
Speaker 1: loss teams, I mean, the scenario, I mean again, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's impossible, Like we don't even need to give
Speaker 1: this any energy, any life. Nobody needs to get their
Speaker 1: hopes up. Louisville not playing in the AEC championship game,
Speaker 1: let's just kind of leave it at that. I guess
Speaker 1: technically there are certain results that would all have to
Speaker 1: play out for it to happen. But it's just again,
Speaker 1: you hear things like, well, crazier things have happened, or
Speaker 1: people reference the old dumb and dumber line. So you're
Speaker 1: telling me there's a chance. No, let's not even do
Speaker 1: that because it's just not gonna happen. And it's okay.
Speaker 1: I wish they could play in the AEC Championship, but
Speaker 1: you know, their losses earlier this year they were I mean,
Speaker 1: they were to good teams. But you know what you
Speaker 1: don't get credit. I mean, you get credit from the committee,
Speaker 1: and you clearly got it. Last week when we saw
Speaker 1: the results from the first edition of the college Football
Speaker 1: Playoff rankings. You're sitting at what twenty two, and you
Speaker 1: have three losses, the only three loss team and it's
Speaker 1: because your losses. Yeah, you're not getting a whole lot
Speaker 1: of credit for losing those games, but it also doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that you're bad because you were toe to toe
Speaker 1: with teams that the committee thinks is really good. In fact,
Speaker 1: I wonder if Louisville might is your mic on and
Speaker 1: you're clicking in there, oh yeah, and breathing, So just
Speaker 1: be to be aware.
Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha?
Speaker 1: Well I didn't. I don't think you knew that it
Speaker 1: was on. That's why I said that.
Speaker 3: So gotta pay attention.
Speaker 1: It happens. No, it happens, It happens. It's fine. So anyways,
Speaker 1: the committee might look at what happened with Miami and
Speaker 1: maybe they view Louisville's close win, close loss against them
Speaker 1: not as impressive. I mean, I doubt that ends up happening,
Speaker 1: but you know, I still feel all things considered, Louisvill's
Speaker 1: win against Clemson was huge, and it gives them a
Speaker 1: chance to finish strong. If they went out, here's what
Speaker 1: they've done. They will have beat Clemson for the first
Speaker 1: time that's already happened in the street to Kentucky. And
Speaker 1: if they win a bowl game, and that's so so
Speaker 1: tough to envision what that'll look like is we don't
Speaker 1: know who's going to play what bowl game. It's going
Speaker 1: to be like it's the ultimate like bowl games or
Speaker 1: the ultimate unknown at this point. But if you do
Speaker 1: get into bowl game and you win, you can claim
Speaker 1: that you had back to back I mean, you don't
Speaker 1: just claim it, it's the truth, it's facts. You will
Speaker 1: have back to back ten win seasons for only the
Speaker 1: second time in school history, and that would give you
Speaker 1: momentum heading into the next year. So you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the ACC Championship was certainly something fans were
Speaker 1: justified and aiming for. And I think we even can
Speaker 1: look at the results at this point and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: you were justified because you know, a play here and
Speaker 1: a play there, you might be sitting here undefeated. I Mean,
Speaker 1: I hate saying that because it sounds like something losers say,
Speaker 1: but I think we all know that, like, yeah, like,
Speaker 1: if they don't change the call in the SMU game,
Speaker 1: you had momentum at that point, right if they call
Speaker 1: the incomplete pass a fumble like the initially did whenever
Speaker 1: you were playing Miami and you got the scoop and score,
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows what would have happened then, So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of would it could have shout us.
Speaker 1: But I was pretty down earlier this year when it
Speaker 1: comes to football. And it wasn't just because it wasn't
Speaker 1: because I'm like, man, I was so wrong. I thought
Speaker 1: Jeff would have a better quarterback or I really thought that,
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't about ability, it was about, you know,
Speaker 1: putting it together. And it's unfortunate that they had some
Speaker 1: early issues at doing that that kept them from taking
Speaker 1: advantage of those big opportunities. But the win against Clemson
Speaker 1: confirmed to me that, like, yeah, we know, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you got to you gotta win games, right,
Speaker 1: you don't feel good about losing, but there's always a
Speaker 1: lot more to it than just that that you can
Speaker 1: that you pay attention to. And I looked at this
Speaker 1: team feeling like, man, I know the record doesn't say this,
Speaker 1: and your record is all that really matters as far
Speaker 1: as how people perceive you. But I think they're good.
Speaker 1: Why can't they win? And we knew why, right, Silly mistakes,
Speaker 1: terrible timing, And I'm not gonna blame it all on reps,
Speaker 1: but clearly there's been some there's been some questionable officiating
Speaker 1: throughout the year. So you know, if they finished strong,
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna be bummed at that happened, but I'll
Speaker 1: live with it. And I think if those things play out,
Speaker 1: I think you can say in the two years into
Speaker 1: the brom era, you've got still and this thing looks
Speaker 1: like it's working out. So we'll see what happens. Now
Speaker 1: with Kentucky real quick, I don't really have anything to
Speaker 1: add when it comes to any update on their football
Speaker 1: program or their season because they you know, they didn't
Speaker 1: have a game this past week. They were off, just
Speaker 1: like Louisville was, and now they've got Murray State coming in.
Speaker 1: They'll then travel to Austin, Texas for their last SEC game,
Speaker 1: and then of course the Governor's Cup game is the
Speaker 1: final game for everybody involved.
Speaker 3: And I sort of heard you say it earlier when
Speaker 3: you were talking to Tony Venetti on his show, it's
Speaker 3: you kind of hope that you get to that point
Speaker 3: where they are sort of defeated, something happens little viets
Speaker 3: up to a couple of touchdown lead in that and
Speaker 3: then you just kind of hope that all right, this
Speaker 3: is I'm kind of just crumbling their season away. But
Speaker 3: you also still had the caveat of that seems to
Speaker 3: be the only game where Mark Stoops gets his teams
Speaker 3: ready to go, not not the big games that they
Speaker 3: just had, but just to close out the season. And
Speaker 3: it would be just like last year, a season where
Speaker 3: the Kentucky fans weren't happy with where they were at.
Speaker 3: They're probably going into the Louisville game just thinking that
Speaker 3: they're going to lose, but they had the mentality of
Speaker 3: let's just go ahead and beat Louisville and then we
Speaker 3: can call this again day, regardless of the wind total.
Speaker 1: They've always had the mindset. And I want to get
Speaker 1: I want to take a break in just a second.
Speaker 1: I want to revisit this on the other side because
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I give myself enough time here,
Speaker 1: because I think the news about Stoops today, for those
Speaker 1: who didn't who missed it, he was asked, you know
Speaker 1: about rumors of retirement and speculation that maybe he's he's
Speaker 1: maybe just going to walk away. He clarified today there's
Speaker 1: zero percent chance that he does that. I mean zero.
Speaker 1: In fact, he said zero percent chance I do that.
Speaker 1: Next question, that was all he said about it. So
Speaker 1: he's probably bothered. That's that's out there, and I get
Speaker 1: it if i'm him. But the scenario where they win
Speaker 1: this game, meaning Kentucky, and it can happen, and I
Speaker 1: get why Louisville fans would be worried and Kentucky fans
Speaker 1: would feel really really confident, But the scenario where they
Speaker 1: would pull it off, given how the season have gone
Speaker 1: for both of these teams, I think the news from
Speaker 1: today actually makes it a little bit harder for Kentucky.
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Speaker 1: That's right, You're damn right. Couldn't have said it better,
Speaker 1: my man. All right, So I want to use the
Speaker 1: little time I have left here in the four o'clock
Speaker 1: hour to just quickly, I guess, pick up where I
Speaker 1: left off when it comes to the conversation about the
Speaker 1: Governor's Cup game. I didn't really want today to be
Speaker 1: a day where we talk about it. But I'm also
Speaker 1: never going to act like it's not a big deal.
Speaker 1: It is to both sides, and I think most agree
Speaker 1: and would acknowledge that and wouldn't really have any issues saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: losing to Kentucky hurts more than losing to anybody. Beating
Speaker 1: Kentucky in most instances, feels better than beating anybody. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe that's not always gonna be the case, but Louisville
Speaker 1: is in a drought in this rivalry matchup in the
Speaker 1: Governor's Cup series that I never thought was possible, But
Speaker 1: here we are, so you know, given the way the
Speaker 1: seasons have gone for both teams, clearly you would say
Speaker 1: Louisville is pleased to see Kentucky is, you know, not
Speaker 1: good this year. But what always has worried me about
Speaker 1: this is that I don't think that they're not good
Speaker 1: because of talent. I don't know how talented they are
Speaker 1: top to bottom, but I think they've got some guys
Speaker 1: that are gonna play in the NFL, and they just
Speaker 1: haven't been able to put it together. And maybe they
Speaker 1: turn it on late. But I know, if you're a
Speaker 1: Kentucky fan, you probably don't believe that. You probably are
Speaker 1: assuming the opposite, because when you get to this point
Speaker 1: in the year, like they know that they're gonna be
Speaker 1: what one in seven, I'm sorry, is it one in
Speaker 1: seven or two and six in the SEC?
Speaker 3: Think let me see here, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, because it sounds crazy to say that they'll go
Speaker 1: one and seven in the SEC, but I think that
Speaker 1: is what's going to happen. No, yeah, right now, if
Speaker 1: you look at the SEC standings, they've played seven of
Speaker 1: their eight games. They're only the only SEC game they
Speaker 1: have left is that Texas and right now they're one
Speaker 1: and six, So they'll finish one and seven, so you know,
Speaker 1: like that's who they are, Like that's just you know.
Speaker 1: But but they didn't lose to Auburn or Florida or
Speaker 1: Vandy because you know, what, are you going to South Carolina?
Speaker 1: Because South those teams just have players that Kentucky can't
Speaker 1: match up with. Now, they lost close games than you
Speaker 1: would have said. Man, they can't just get over the hume.
Speaker 1: But like they end up getting killed by Auburn, the
Speaker 1: end up getting killed by Florida. I mean they've had
Speaker 1: I mean, Vandy didn't kill them, but you know, Vandy
Speaker 1: didn't really have a whole lot of trouble beating them,
Speaker 1: it seemed like, so you know, the ability for them
Speaker 1: to just all right, here we go, it's Louisville game.
Speaker 1: Let's let's now turn it on and play for real
Speaker 1: and put out put a performance together that shows just
Speaker 1: how good week we can be when we play well.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's possible, but the human element
Speaker 1: within sports is a powerful thing to where if they
Speaker 1: get killed by Texas and they bear you know, let's
Speaker 1: say they just you know, they who cares what they
Speaker 1: do against Murty State. Let's just say they win that game,
Speaker 1: and they let a lot of backups play because they
Speaker 1: want to keep people healthy or whatever. And then they
Speaker 1: get killed at Texas and they come back home to
Speaker 1: host Louisville. There's going to be renewed energy, but I
Speaker 1: don't know how much they're going to be able to
Speaker 1: even believe it internally, because all it'll take is a
Speaker 1: couple of plays and you're reminded that you're you went
Speaker 1: one in seven in your league, and that like this
Speaker 1: was the worst season that your coach has had in
Speaker 1: the last ten years. Like they'll know that to where
Speaker 1: they may not just lay down, But you don't get
Speaker 1: to Week twelve and not know who you are. Yes,
Speaker 1: I know last year they were. They weren't in a
Speaker 1: good play. They had an embarrassing loss to a bad
Speaker 1: South Carolina team before they played Louisville. There was no
Speaker 1: real excitement about the game from the Kentucky side that
Speaker 1: I could tell. We had many Kentucky fans calling in
Speaker 1: during that week that didn't want to say that their
Speaker 1: team was going to win, but they just wanted to
Speaker 1: tell me that Louisville sucks and then it won't be
Speaker 1: because Louisville is good. That they win, it'll be just
Speaker 1: because you know Kentucky's you know, they're just they got
Speaker 1: a bad quarterback or this and that. But then when
Speaker 1: they go out and win, I mean, like last year
Speaker 1: sucked because it's the one year where it's set up
Speaker 1: to where you should be able to just take care
Speaker 1: of business and in the streak and you couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: But think about this year if they come in one
Speaker 1: in seven and their only wins to speak of are
Speaker 1: against two mac teams, Murray State and somehow Ole Miss like,
Speaker 1: and then you still can't beat them in a year
Speaker 1: where you're gonna be probably top twenty in the college
Speaker 1: football playoff rankings. I mean, I felt like last year
Speaker 1: there wasn't gonna be a scenario that could set up
Speaker 1: worse than that as far as how it played out.
Speaker 1: But a loss here, I think is worse than that.
Speaker 1: If I'm being honest with you, I know you're at
Speaker 1: their place and last year was at home, so maybe
Speaker 1: that's a big factor to you fair enough, but their
Speaker 1: football fan base I think is as lifeless as I've
Speaker 1: ever heard them under Mark Stoops And I get why
Speaker 1: because this is not just a bad year, like you
Speaker 1: shouldn't be this bad. And I'm you know, don't shoot
Speaker 1: the messenger here because I'm just gonna say this real
Speaker 1: quick before we go to the before we get to
Speaker 1: the top of the hour. Last week, they were coming
Speaker 1: off of I guess their loss to Tennessee on KSR.
Speaker 1: The crew was kind of talking about, like, you know,
Speaker 1: how they see this thing playing out, and I think,
Speaker 1: and I don't want tom. You know, at least half
Speaker 1: of them or maybe more than half of the crew
Speaker 1: kind of said that they hope that Stoops calls it
Speaker 1: quits and kind of moves on and finishes strong by
Speaker 1: beating Louisville. And I'm thinking, you know what, I could
Speaker 1: see that happening right he's on his way out. Boy,
Speaker 1: might as well do what we've always done well under Stoops,
Speaker 1: and that's play well against Louisville. But like now that's
Speaker 1: not going to be there. He's coming back and he
Speaker 1: always was. I guess it doesn't mean that they can't
Speaker 1: turn it on and like finish strong and go. I
Speaker 1: guess what would that be if they end up So
Speaker 1: right now they're three and six overall, they'll be four
Speaker 1: and seven when that game was played. So I guess
Speaker 1: they could get to five and seven and they wouldn't
Speaker 1: claim that that means anything, but they would also know
Speaker 1: that they still own Louisville. And like, I just don't
Speaker 1: want that to happen, and I don't believe that it will.
Speaker 1: But I said that last year and I don't. It'd
Speaker 1: be a totally different situation if I felt like Kentucky
Speaker 1: was one in six in the SEC right now because
Speaker 1: they have no good players and no talent, no depth,
Speaker 1: that's not it at all. They're a mess for a
Speaker 1: variety of reasons, but I don't believe talent is one
Speaker 1: of them. All Right, quick break, five o'clock hours next,
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