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I'll save you 74 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,039 the trouble. So you go to our website, click on 75 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,360 a webinar and you will see that it is January fourth, 76 00:04:06,439 --> 00:04:09,639 So it's coming up pretty quickly on a Saturday. We'll 77 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:13,080 be having it from ten am to noon. It's two hours, 78 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,399 and it'll be on our Coffee Hour with Paul Platform. 79 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,920 So again, raceway Field calculations, how to do them like 80 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:22,279 a pro, and you can register. Just go click on 81 00:04:22,319 --> 00:04:26,199 the link the title over on our website and you 82 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,439 can register. Ok All right, now let's get into today's topic. 83 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,399 So what are we talking about? Paul'sman leading you up 84 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:36,439 to it. What are we talking about? Okay, today's topic 85 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:43,199 is going to be revisiting the topic of securing EMT 86 00:04:43,399 --> 00:04:50,240 between enclosures, between boxes, between load centers, between whatever. Okay, 87 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:55,720 you're terminating your EMT at boxes and you're like, okay, 88 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,439 it's less than three feet and you I have people 89 00:05:00,439 --> 00:05:03,079 out there saying you still got to put a strap 90 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,560 on it. And so I got to revisit this because 91 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,800 I'm seeing all over social media people talking about it 92 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,279 improperly and not using some common sense when it comes 93 00:05:14,319 --> 00:05:16,959 to the approach here of this. So what I want 94 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,639 to do is try to use my method of conveying 95 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,319 a mental picture to you read the code and try 96 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,199 to explain what's going on here and so to that 97 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,480 anybody that listens can understand it and the simple nuances 98 00:05:34,519 --> 00:05:36,759 of what we're trying to do here at this rule. Okay, 99 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,399 so let's talk about it. So let me set the stage. 100 00:05:39,959 --> 00:05:44,399 I've got a box A on the left, and I 101 00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:47,839 have a box B on the right, and I have 102 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:53,319 EMT with fittings connected between box A in box B. 103 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:59,319 The overall length from box A two box B is 104 00:05:59,399 --> 00:06:03,959 only third inches. Okay, so the EMT itself would be 105 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,480 less than thirty because you got the fittings, but they 106 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,160 pretty much go all the way up in there. So 107 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:11,639 let's say the overall length is going to be thirty 108 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:15,040 inches between box to box. Okay, keep it simple, so 109 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:18,639 that we know it is less than three feet. Okay, 110 00:06:18,759 --> 00:06:20,560 there's a reason for that, so just go with me. 111 00:06:21,399 --> 00:06:22,920 So I have box A on the left, I have 112 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,959 Box B on the right, and connecting them two together 113 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:33,360 is a thirty inches of EMT and associated EMT fittings 114 00:06:33,639 --> 00:06:36,759 on each end. Obviously of the EMT that is going 115 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:41,240 to be connected to box A with a locknut and 116 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,600 then Box B with a locknut. Okay, I'm just trying 117 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,199 to keep it simple. We're not going to talk about 118 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,759 the conductors in it. We're not going to talk about Oh, 119 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,439 you didn't mention anything about a bushing three hundred dot 120 00:06:51,439 --> 00:06:55,120 four G for the fitting it. No, I'm not, because 121 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,879 the attention span of most people on these social media 122 00:06:57,959 --> 00:07:02,800 platforms is zero, and so if I over stimulate you 123 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,079 based on a podcast, and I've already lost your ass. 124 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,800 So let's just keep it simple. Box A on the left, 125 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,439 box B on the right, there's a piece of MT 126 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,600 between it with a fitting on each end of the 127 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:19,079 MT and the EMT set screws on the actual fittings 128 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,639 are connected in so it's secured, and then the fitting 129 00:07:24,519 --> 00:07:27,160 has a locknut and it is secured to box A. 130 00:07:27,639 --> 00:07:31,120 And on the other side, it's the fitting is mechanically 131 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:35,319 connected to the tubing and the fitting is connected to 132 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,319 box B with a locknut. Are we pretty clear? Okay? 133 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,319 Can't make it any simpler than that, right, So the 134 00:07:42,399 --> 00:07:46,519 distance between the two boxes is thirty inches. Okay, So 135 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,680 there is this faction I don't know if I should 136 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,680 say faction. They get shot down every time they try 137 00:07:54,759 --> 00:07:58,160 to bring this thing up, and they got shot down again, 138 00:07:58,279 --> 00:08:02,959 but they don't stop from going on places like social 139 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,600 media and causing people to question things because they dig 140 00:08:07,639 --> 00:08:11,079 into the semantics of the wording. And yet they lack 141 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,519 the ability to use a little common sense here. So 142 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:16,639 I'm gonna do that for you. I'm going to bring 143 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,360 common sense to people who listen to the podcast. All right, 144 00:08:21,839 --> 00:08:23,319 So first thing I want you to do, if you 145 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,600 have your codebook, if you don't pause this podcast and 146 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,800 grab your codebook. I am in the twenty twenty three 147 00:08:29,879 --> 00:08:35,279 edition of the nec SO, but really doesn't matter what edition, 148 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:38,519 and three fifty eight dot thirty. But let's say we're 149 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:41,200 gonna use we're gonna do everything today off of the 150 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,720 twenty twenty three edition of the the NEC. Okay, so 151 00:08:45,879 --> 00:08:48,000 let's go to three fifty eight dot thirty That is 152 00:08:48,039 --> 00:08:53,519 securing and supporting. It says EMT shall be installed as 153 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,159 a complete system in accordance with three hundred dot eighteen. 154 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,120 So that means before you pull any conductors in, you 155 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,159 need to make sure that your system is a complete 156 00:09:02,159 --> 00:09:04,639 So in this case, box A to box B, the 157 00:09:04,639 --> 00:09:08,720 fittings are on the tubeing, the set screws are set 158 00:09:09,279 --> 00:09:11,919 or if it was outside, the compression fitting is set, 159 00:09:12,159 --> 00:09:14,519 and it's mechanically connected to the box. So it's a 160 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:19,120 complete system from box to box. It's complete, and all 161 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,919 this left is to pull the conductors in it, right, 162 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,879 So that's what's done now, it says, and the EMT is. 163 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,080 It says it shall be securely fastened, in place and 164 00:09:29,159 --> 00:09:34,720 supported in accordance with three fifty eight thirty A and B. Okay, 165 00:09:34,919 --> 00:09:38,000 another little tip, folks, When you see and not or, 166 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,120 then it means you got to meet this and you 167 00:09:41,159 --> 00:09:43,960 got to meet that, okay, Whereas or means you meet 168 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,240 this or you meet that. Okay, there's an end in there. 169 00:09:47,279 --> 00:09:49,240 So you got to meet them both if applicable. Okay, 170 00:09:49,879 --> 00:09:54,879 all right, so let's look at A A says securely fastened. 171 00:09:55,559 --> 00:10:00,399 It says EMT shall be securely fastened in place in 172 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,480 accordance with the following. Okay, so it's the EMT that 173 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,759 has to be fastened in place. A number one says 174 00:10:08,919 --> 00:10:12,159 it needs to be fastened in place. Securely fastened in 175 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:18,519 place at intervals not exceeding ten feet makes sense. Okay, 176 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,639 you have ten foot stick EMT. You got it connected 177 00:10:23,399 --> 00:10:27,919 into a fitting, it's connected to the box, it's securely fastened. 178 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:33,720 I can go up to ten feet okay in that scenario. Okay, Now, 179 00:10:34,159 --> 00:10:37,759 what if I have the box, the junction box, the 180 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,720 device box, the cabinet, conduit body, or other tubing termination 181 00:10:42,879 --> 00:10:45,720 in play like we do in ours. We have box A, 182 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,919 we have box B. They're thirty inches apart. Okay. It 183 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:55,919 says EMT again shall be securely fastened in place within 184 00:10:56,159 --> 00:11:03,000 three feet of each outlet, box, junction device box, cabinet, 185 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,720 conduit body, or other tubing termination. Now it does not 186 00:11:08,039 --> 00:11:11,200 say here that that has to be a strap. That 187 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,720 doesn't say that, Hey, dude, you gotta go slap some 188 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,480 kindor funder it and put one of those kind door 189 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:18,000 straps on. It doesn't say any of that. Hey, you 190 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,600 gotta go get a one whole strap, you gotta get 191 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,120 a two hole strap. You can secure it in any 192 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,279 of the listed methods. Okay, that that would be okay 193 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,159 for secure me. But look, but looks, look a little 194 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:34,720 common sense here. Look at our drawing or our our scenario. 195 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,919 Box A is only thirty inches away from box B. 196 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:46,360 The EMT is securely fastened in the fitting with a 197 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,039 set screw or compression, depending on where it's located, so 198 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:56,879 they're together. Then the fitting is mechanically connected using a 199 00:11:56,919 --> 00:12:00,919 locknut to box A and on the other end two 200 00:12:00,919 --> 00:12:06,120 box B. Right, y'all with me? Okay, so lock knucking, 201 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,440 lock knucked, lock knucking, everybody, I made up a new 202 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,480 word called lock knucking. It is probably going to get 203 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:16,240 banned on most social media platforms because we just don't 204 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,519 know what the definition of lock knucking is. Anyway, locknuts 205 00:12:20,519 --> 00:12:23,840 mechanically done. So the next question, people say, well, what 206 00:12:24,039 --> 00:12:27,919 makes that secure? Well, most all of us are familiar 207 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:32,440 with three fourteen dot twenty three c right, which says 208 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,480 that mounting in finished surfaces it says an enclosure mounted 209 00:12:37,639 --> 00:12:42,120 in a finished surface shall be rigidly secured there too 210 00:12:42,399 --> 00:12:49,320 by clamps, anchors, or fittings identified for the application. So, 211 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,799 if it's structurally mounted, it says an enclosure supported from 212 00:12:53,879 --> 00:12:58,279 a structural member or from grades shall be rigidly supported. 213 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,879 And it gives you methods whether its snails, screws, or braces. 214 00:13:01,919 --> 00:13:04,759 Surface mounting. It says again all this under three fourteen 215 00:13:04,759 --> 00:13:07,240 dot twenty three. It says an enclosure mounted on a 216 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,679 building or other structures shall be rigidly and securely fastened 217 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:18,639 in place. Okay, all right, So those boxes, whatever flavor 218 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:23,799 of mounting you want, they are securely and rigidly fastened 219 00:13:23,799 --> 00:13:28,919 in place. Okay. They're not going anywhere. Okay, that's that's 220 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,000 the point I'm trying to make here. They're not going 221 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,279 and the code stipulates that they don't go anywhere. Okay, 222 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,039 all right. That takes us back to the concept here. 223 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,000 So it says that it has to be the EMT 224 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,080 has to be securely fastened in place within three feet 225 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:53,159 of each outlet box, junction box, device, box, cabinet, conduit, body, 226 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,679 or other tubing termination. I am in three fifty eight 227 00:13:55,919 --> 00:14:02,759 thirty a folks, you do not need any additional securement 228 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,480 for a e m T that spans thirty inches in 229 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:12,639 the middle of between two boxes, because that EMT is 230 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,879 securely fastened to that fitting which is locknutted to a 231 00:14:16,919 --> 00:14:21,399 box that is required to be securely fastened that fitting 232 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,200 in many cases, also in the NEEC, the fittings are 233 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,720 a means of securement. Okay, and so you're able to 234 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,799 go from there, you know, like with whips, you know, 235 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,559 with MC consider the connector at the box. You can 236 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,559 have a whip and go up to six feet Okay, 237 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,840 it's secured at the box. Okay, but not going down 238 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,519 that rabbit hole. Let's stick into what the topic is here. 239 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,480 There is no way in anybody's mind unless they're just 240 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:52,120 reaching for the stars and just missing it. Box a 241 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,120 with a fitting connected to it with the with the 242 00:14:57,159 --> 00:15:03,799 locknut that's secured to the tubing, whether it's set or compression, 243 00:15:04,679 --> 00:15:09,720 goes only thirty inches into another fitting, which is securely 244 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,759 fastened to the fitting, which is the fitting is securely 245 00:15:12,799 --> 00:15:18,600 fastened to the box that is rigidly secure. It's not 246 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:21,720 going anywhere. So then the guys go The guy goes, well, 247 00:15:21,759 --> 00:15:24,480 I'm just trying to deliterally the wording of the code. No, 248 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,039 it's not. You're not reading it right. I'm at box A. 249 00:15:29,279 --> 00:15:32,120 I'm at box A. Ask yourself the question. I'm at 250 00:15:32,159 --> 00:15:38,600 box A. Is my EMT okay? Is my EMT securely 251 00:15:38,639 --> 00:15:42,840 fastened in place within three feet? Hell? Yeah, it is, 252 00:15:43,519 --> 00:15:45,159 Because if I go from box A to box B, 253 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,600 it's going into a fitting that has a set screw 254 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:52,799 of compression, in a fitting that's mechanically connected to a 255 00:15:52,879 --> 00:15:58,799 box that's required to also be securely rigid. It's not 256 00:15:58,919 --> 00:16:02,639 going anywhere it meets the intent. Is that EMT secured 257 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:06,519 within three feet? Absolutely it is. It's into a fitting 258 00:16:06,519 --> 00:16:08,679 with a set screw or compression, and it's on a 259 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,039 locknut that's holding it against a securely fastened box. It 260 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:17,320 is secured. That EMT is secured thanks to that set screwed, 261 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,240 thanks to that compression, thanks to that fitting, thanks to 262 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:26,720 that locknut done. What purpose would anybody out there in 263 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,360 their right mind read into this thinking, well, I need 264 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:34,519 to put a strap in the middle at fifteen inches 265 00:16:34,799 --> 00:16:38,240 because I need to have that fastened securement within three feet. 266 00:16:39,799 --> 00:16:44,759 What's any difference between that and putting the fitting on 267 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:49,480 the tubing, mechanically connecting it together with set screw or compression, 268 00:16:50,039 --> 00:16:55,639 and then mechanically connected to a rigidly mounted box with 269 00:16:55,679 --> 00:17:02,080 a locknut. What's the difference? There is no difference. It's 270 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:07,119 still within three feet. That strap in the middle is 271 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,559 Pointless's a waste of money. If it makes you feel good, 272 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,000 makes you feel warm and tingly inside, then you put 273 00:17:12,039 --> 00:17:14,119 all the damn straps you want to put on. Hell, 274 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,720 put six up on there. I don't care, but it 275 00:17:17,759 --> 00:17:22,240 doesn't make sense because it is totally unnecessary. What do 276 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:27,119 you actually think is going to happen to that? Emt really? 277 00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:34,640 What do you think it's gonna happen to it? Absolutely nothing? Okay, 278 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,799 So again I keep seeing this, I keep seeing people 279 00:17:38,839 --> 00:17:42,880 talk about it, and you know, I look at it 280 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,720 and I can't help but laugh at anybody that would 281 00:17:46,759 --> 00:17:49,839 think that if I have two boxes thirty inches apart, 282 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,720 eighteen inches apart, six inches apart, twelve inches apart, thirty 283 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:59,119 four inches apart, it just boggles my mind that somebody 284 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,640 would want to put an additional strap in there because 285 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,880 they think that that's going to do any good. Well, 286 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,240 it doesn't hurt, now, it doesn't hurt. If you want 287 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,319 to do it, go for it. I don't care if 288 00:18:10,319 --> 00:18:12,799 you're saying, well, I'm going above code, you know, I 289 00:18:12,799 --> 00:18:15,400 don't think that's above code. That is just the fact 290 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,160 that you just don't know how to read the code 291 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,759 and you don't know how to use common sense. But 292 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:22,000 if you want to put it in there, knock yourself out, 293 00:18:22,079 --> 00:18:25,759 go for it. But it's not required because that EMT 294 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:31,440 is securely fastened within three feet. It is. It's in 295 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,440 the fitting that's mechanically connected with a locknut to a 296 00:18:35,559 --> 00:18:41,559 box that's required to be rigidly secure. It's not going 297 00:18:41,599 --> 00:18:45,119 anywhere it meets. It meets the rule. And so from 298 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,240 one from box A to box B, it's within three 299 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,119 feet because box B is securely rigid and it has 300 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,920 the EMT in the fitting. The EMT is mechanically connected 301 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,000 to the fitting with a set screw or mechanic or compression. 302 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:01,519 And then if you go from B to A, it's 303 00:19:01,559 --> 00:19:04,480 exactly the same thing on the other end, both of 304 00:19:04,519 --> 00:19:09,599 which are securing that EMT to the fitting ultimately to 305 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,680 the box, so it is secure. Putting a strap in 306 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,000 the middle of that run that thirty inches is just 307 00:19:18,079 --> 00:19:21,079 a sheer waste of money. Almost as much of a 308 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:26,359 waste of money as putting a insulating bushing on a 309 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:31,519 ser clamp fitting when it's not necessary because that is 310 00:19:31,559 --> 00:19:33,720 not a raceway. But you want to spend that two 311 00:19:33,799 --> 00:19:36,400 dollars a ninety eight cent to do that. It makes 312 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,279 you feel good, you do, you boo. But this is 313 00:19:39,319 --> 00:19:43,759 a good example. And so this is for everybody out 314 00:19:43,759 --> 00:19:47,759 there that says, no, man's thirty thirty inches between boxes. 315 00:19:47,799 --> 00:19:51,200 You've put EMT between it. Oh man, I've got to uh, 316 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,559 I got to put a strap on that in the 317 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,240 middle of it. Dude, you do that if you think 318 00:19:55,279 --> 00:19:58,319 you have to. But just to ask your question, if 319 00:19:58,319 --> 00:20:03,079 I'm at box A, is that EMT secured to the 320 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,319 box A? Absolutely it is. Is it also secured through 321 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,279 the fitting in the set screw or compression and two 322 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,279 box b? Absolutely it is. Is all of this being 323 00:20:14,319 --> 00:20:19,839 done within three feet? Absolutely it is? Dude, It's secure. 324 00:20:20,519 --> 00:20:23,640 Move on, all right? All right, anyway, that's all I 325 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,039 want to talk about today's episode. That was that I 326 00:20:26,079 --> 00:20:28,359 thought was this interesting. It's like, people just let that 327 00:20:28,519 --> 00:20:31,519 keep going and I'm like, really, you're really stretching that far, 328 00:20:31,759 --> 00:20:35,119 You're really reading something that's not there. But it seems 329 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,279 like they are all right. Folks. 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