Speaker 1: Hey, there, it's willed. Because of the nature of our show,
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Speaker 1: still a really great content that we wanted you to have,
Speaker 1: so we're releasing it here for you as is. Thanks
Speaker 1: for being a listener, and we hope that you enjoy
Speaker 1: the episode. Take Karen, When you're not feeling well? What
Speaker 1: do you do?
Speaker 2: I sitting around I'm not feeling well, try to sleep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. But when you get really when you're
Speaker 1: really not feeling well, what do you do?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It depends on how I'm not Who do you go see?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't usually go see a doctor, even though
Speaker 2: I should.
Speaker 1: Where most people when they don't feel well, they go
Speaker 1: to a doctor, right, and then the doctor gives you
Speaker 1: medicine to help you feel better, and you're on your way.
Speaker 1: Except sometimes that medicine oohy, that medicine and gives you
Speaker 1: some side effects. Right, oh yeah, yeah, So some people
Speaker 1: say that Eastern medicine is definitely the way to go instead.
Speaker 1: Now we've even spoken to someone that's shared all the
Speaker 1: wonderful benefits of valu, your vata and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, right yep, But now we're hearing that maybe
Speaker 1: Eastern medicine is not always the best way to go
Speaker 1: for some people. So what do you do when neither
Speaker 1: Eastern nor Western medicine seems to fit the bill?
Speaker 2: You find the perfect combination.
Speaker 1: On this episode, we're going to answer just that, once
Speaker 1: and for all, the internal question should Eastern or Western
Speaker 1: medicine be your exclusive go to? My name is Will
Speaker 1: and I'm, unlike bulderin Scully, both want to believe. So
Speaker 1: we've embarked in a journey of discovery.
Speaker 3: Welcome to Skepticians Classic. You are listening to classic skepticians.
Speaker 1: Welcome to our version of a walkdown Memory Lane as
Speaker 1: we present classics from the skeptic metaphysician Library, warts and all. Karen, Yes,
Speaker 1: how's that book? I got here?
Speaker 2: Which one?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: The Meditation of Dummies book.
Speaker 2: It's it's a lovely book.
Speaker 1: It is a lovely The dust cover is quite nice.
Speaker 2: It is quite nice.
Speaker 1: Yes, have you heard that there's writing inside of it?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I am trying to work on my
Speaker 4: psychic abilities. Hmmm, and just know what's in that book?
Speaker 4: Oh well, not reading it?
Speaker 1: That would be impressive.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't it.
Speaker 1: Sadly, it is ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 2: You're not supportive.
Speaker 1: Because you have to meditate in order to develop your psychics.
Speaker 4: Not necessarily, people are born with them. Well, I could
Speaker 4: just be still sleepy, and if I meditate, will sleep
Speaker 4: even longer. Maybe I need some coffee.
Speaker 1: Time to wake up. Interview after interview after interview, everyone's
Speaker 1: talked about the fact that meditation is so important for
Speaker 1: any kind of spiritual wakening.
Speaker 2: Okay, you want to hear the truth of the fact
Speaker 2: of the matter of the whatever.
Speaker 1: As long as something in there makes sense.
Speaker 2: I don't like being told what to do. I never have.
Speaker 4: I don't do well with self help books, don't I've
Speaker 4: just never I don't know what it is. But even
Speaker 4: as a kid, I would just, you know, just because
Speaker 4: that's your way, it doesn't mean it has to be
Speaker 4: my way. And probably I'm wrong, but that's just you.
Speaker 1: Know, so let me just get this my head around this.
Speaker 1: That way, you're saying you don't want to read a
Speaker 1: self help book because it feels like someone's telling you
Speaker 1: what to do. Or is it that you don't want
Speaker 1: to read the book because I've given it to you,
Speaker 1: you don't want to do what I ask you to do?
Speaker 2: No? No, it's more like.
Speaker 1: Is it that all of our experts are telling you
Speaker 1: that you that you have to meditate, and therefore you
Speaker 1: are fighting the fact that you got to meditate because
Speaker 1: you don't want them to tell you what to do.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: I just think that everyone's experience is very individual, and
Speaker 2: I'm just having mine.
Speaker 1: The non meditative experience.
Speaker 2: Hey, I think I have done pretty well for myself
Speaker 2: without you know, following exactly your plan.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't just rest on your angel Laurels Karen.
Speaker 2: Ha ha ha.
Speaker 1: You need to actually take action.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I am taking action. You just I just don't
Speaker 2: tell you everything.
Speaker 4: Oh, speaking of telling someone everything, Yeah, why don't we
Speaker 4: listen to this interview.
Speaker 1: Fine, Welcome to the Skeptic Metaphysitions. I'm Will and I'm Karen,
Speaker 1: and today we're tackling the big questions to help us
Speaker 1: navigate the tricky waters of East versus West. We have
Speaker 1: a shaman who certified in acupressure sacral healing and is
Speaker 1: a Tibetan Reiki mass and she uses intuitive life guidance
Speaker 1: to channel the truth behind all the secrets of her
Speaker 1: client's problems. Please, welcome to the show, Amy J. Harris. Amy,
Speaker 1: so so so glad to finally have you on our show.
Speaker 1: We've been in communication for a long long time, and
Speaker 1: you've been super engaged with us for a long time.
Speaker 1: So it's really wonderful to finally be able to see
Speaker 1: you face to face and say hello.
Speaker 5: It's my honor and pleasure. I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 5: Thank you for inviting me and then inviting me again and.
Speaker 1: Again and again. And it's not been in all fairness,
Speaker 1: it has not been on your end. It's been on ours.
Speaker 1: Universe has conspired against us, and it almost conspired against
Speaker 1: us today too, but we pushed through and here we are. Here,
Speaker 1: we are all the gremlins.
Speaker 5: See and sometimes that's all you have to do in life.
Speaker 5: I tell people, if you really, really really want something,
Speaker 5: I have a theory it takes eleven times. If it's
Speaker 5: something you've decided you want, it takes eleven times sometimes,
Speaker 5: so don't it on the tenth. So here we are
Speaker 5: in the eleventh time.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you've been watching the show or listening to
Speaker 1: the show for a while. You've seen our Instagram posts
Speaker 1: and you see my eleven elevens. Is that why you're
Speaker 1: saying it takes eleven times?
Speaker 4: Is that.
Speaker 5: It's my Like I said, it's my theory. It's my
Speaker 5: theory based on though there is a basis I did read,
Speaker 5: maybe like a decade ago, that it takes. Uh. If
Speaker 5: you want to establish a habit like exercise or you know,
Speaker 5: eating healthier, you have to do something eleven times in
Speaker 5: order to establish your habit. So to me, a manifestation
Speaker 5: is a habit. And so if I want to manifest something,
Speaker 5: I give it eleven tries. If it hasn't happened by
Speaker 5: eleven tries, it's not messyvy, but most of the time
Speaker 5: it is.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, Well, I love your answer, but I think I
Speaker 1: might like mind just a little bit more because you
Speaker 1: know it's a it's a little more cosmic. But here
Speaker 1: we go.
Speaker 5: Well, if you want to get cosmic, here we go
Speaker 5: with that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are all about the cosmic. So when we spoke,
Speaker 1: you said that you've never had more downloads in preparation
Speaker 1: for any interview in your life. So I gotta tell you,
Speaker 1: I am super excited to hear what these downloads are.
Speaker 1: And since we're talking about Eastern and Western medicine, let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and tackle the topic. Okay, Eastern versus Western medicine.
Speaker 1: What makes the best type of medicine in your estimation?
Speaker 5: One word both?
Speaker 1: So we're fourming us into the interview and already have
Speaker 1: given away all the answers.
Speaker 5: Just leave it there. There will be many, many, many
Speaker 5: many more questions, So we're gonna get into that word both.
Speaker 5: So Eastern and Western healing techniques must be used in
Speaker 5: tandem for overall well being. In the Eastern healing rounds,
Speaker 5: we refer to Western medicine as allopathic their medical pharmacology.
Speaker 5: These are allopathic medicines, allopathic techniques. We believe that they
Speaker 5: are treating symptoms. Right, you go to the doctor and
Speaker 5: then say what's wrong, and you come up with your
Speaker 5: laundry list of symptoms, and then what do they do.
Speaker 5: They take a guess, right, they said, Okay, we think
Speaker 5: it's this, and then you get test A, and then
Speaker 5: if it's not that, you get test to B, so
Speaker 5: on and so forth. And some people, unfortunately, will tell
Speaker 5: you they've had a three Z and they still don't
Speaker 5: know what's wrong. So my technique is a little different.
Speaker 5: In the Eastern realm, in general, we say that we
Speaker 5: are healing at the cellular level, and as a shaman,
Speaker 5: I'm not You can tell me what your symptoms are,
Speaker 5: that's fine, but I am less concerned with the symptoms
Speaker 5: then I am with my intuitive or psychic empathing that
Speaker 5: happens in my treatment room, where literally I'm looking at
Speaker 5: the parts of your body before you even tell me
Speaker 5: what's wrong, because I feel the energy. There's a block here,
Speaker 5: there's a block there, right, So we I think most
Speaker 5: people it's pretty mainstream by now the word key, which
Speaker 5: is you know the energy of the body, and within
Speaker 5: the body there are energy points and there are meridians.
Speaker 5: If you're familiar with acupuncture, I do acupressure. It's the
Speaker 5: same basis. I'm just not using needles. I'm using my
Speaker 5: fingers or elbows, you know, to make pressure points on
Speaker 5: the body.
Speaker 1: Way for no needles.
Speaker 5: I know that's what I'm like. Well, I haven't gotten
Speaker 5: to school to do like the thing that's covered under
Speaker 5: you know, health insurance. It would be nice, right, But
Speaker 5: I am not for needles. Although I did a blood
Speaker 5: donation recently and saved to life, so that was exciting.
Speaker 5: But other than that, other than that, I don't really
Speaker 5: want to do needles. So I'm with you. So we
Speaker 5: are not treating the symptoms as much as empathing what's
Speaker 5: going on not just in the body. But I'm also
Speaker 5: very concerned with what the brain is doing. And pretty
Speaker 5: much everyone these days as well knows that it's very
Speaker 5: much mind over matter. People have healed their cancer just
Speaker 5: believing that they were going to heal their cancer. There
Speaker 5: are books on it all over the world. So I
Speaker 5: am very concerned with what is going on in your
Speaker 5: head when you're in my treatment room. If you've decided
Speaker 5: you have something and you're never getting rid of it,
Speaker 5: and guess what you're never getting rid of, it doesn't
Speaker 5: matter what I do, and it doesn't matter what the
Speaker 5: top surgeons of the world do. You will hang on
Speaker 5: to that sucker. Even if they alleviate the symptoms for
Speaker 5: whatever period of time, you will continue to have symptoms
Speaker 5: or you will resolve your symptoms temporary and then down
Speaker 5: the line it will present itself again. Because you have
Speaker 5: incorporated that into your memory. It's what you want. You're
Speaker 5: not releasing it. So all of those things are concerning
Speaker 5: to an Eastern healer. I can walk you through just basically.
Speaker 5: You know what it would look like without showing you.
Speaker 5: I hope one day I'll be able to get one
Speaker 5: of you guys if you swing by Pennsylvania in my
Speaker 5: treatment room for a free treatment.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, we were just there like five years ago.
Speaker 1: But you know, I was so close looking for.
Speaker 5: Two you do so you know, like I said, just
Speaker 5: like with Western doctors, they do come in the clients
Speaker 5: and they have their symptoms, so they start talking about
Speaker 5: them almost right away, even though they don't need to
Speaker 5: do that. It is useful information.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: A lot of times they're coming to you because they
Speaker 5: have not had success in with doctors and hospitals and chiropractors,
Speaker 5: you name it. They've they've done the insurance thing. And
Speaker 5: it's it's not happening. So they show up in my room,
Speaker 5: and you know, they may even have had a little
Speaker 5: bit of improvement, but things are persisting. And so I
Speaker 5: will listen to what they say. I take it all in.
Speaker 5: It's information, But right away I start to do this,
Speaker 5: or I start to do this, and I'm already empathing
Speaker 5: that what they've gone through either mattered to some extent
Speaker 5: or didn't matter at all, because that's not the problem. Like,
Speaker 5: for just a brief example, even outside of my treatment room,
Speaker 5: my sister told me she had all kinds of issues.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not going to tell you what they
Speaker 5: are obviously right confidentiality, But it was me who diagnosed
Speaker 5: the correct diagnosis because I was going like this the
Speaker 5: whole time. She's telling me what the doctors were saying
Speaker 5: and what they were doing. I was like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: no no. And I've known her my whole life, right,
Speaker 5: So she's my younger sister. So I told her what
Speaker 5: it was. And you know, she tends to family members
Speaker 5: ten in general, not to believe me, you know, because
Speaker 5: I'm their family. I don't really believe them either. That's fine,
Speaker 5: Like fair is fair, so I said, just take it back,
Speaker 5: take it back to the doctor. Let her do that.
Speaker 5: There's a test for that, right, Like, there's an app
Speaker 5: for that. There's a test for that. Have them test it.
Speaker 5: Guess what I was? Right? So I'm bat in a
Speaker 5: thousand so far with my clients and my family members
Speaker 5: on the things that are wrong that their doctors are
Speaker 5: not resolving.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait, wait to address that for a second.
Speaker 1: You're banning a thousand, which means you're one hundred percent
Speaker 1: accurate on.
Speaker 5: So far and they're not like, knock on wood, literally
Speaker 5: knock on everything. So far, that's way everyone else is failing.
Speaker 5: I'm succeeding. But that's just because I mean, I just
Speaker 5: brush it off because I'm a psychic, right, so I
Speaker 5: get information that is from the universe.
Speaker 1: Can't you can't brush that. It's one hundred percent success, right,
Speaker 1: you can't just brush that off. That's that's remarkable, Karen.
Speaker 1: We're we're headed to Pennsylvania. Yeah, we're on our way,
Speaker 1: are you kidd mean that's fantastic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's going well so far. Right, eleven years and
Speaker 5: a successful practice is good? So wow, what I have
Speaker 5: them do is and the nice thing about me is
Speaker 5: you don't have to get naked. You keep your clothes lunch.
Speaker 1: Oh no, forget it. I'm not going to Pennsylvania now.
Speaker 5: In my dream, keep your clothes on. And after we're
Speaker 5: having our little chat and I'm doing some probably some
Speaker 5: light reiki. After I've intuited what I think is going on. Now,
Speaker 5: my hands are moving, like you know, to your energy points.
Speaker 5: I usually start with the crown and the throat. A
Speaker 5: lot of people have communication issues and have you know,
Speaker 5: either third eye blockages, headaches, things that are going on
Speaker 5: in this arena where the crown chakra is expanding. We
Speaker 5: can get into that in a whole other podcast. But
Speaker 5: but I start to do the reiki and then I
Speaker 5: start to speak words in Sanskrit, and this, I believe
Speaker 5: initiates a direct channel to ancient Tibet and I am
Speaker 5: a Tibetan reiki master. I went to get certified in
Speaker 5: what everyone gets certified in, which is usui reiki, and
Speaker 5: that's what everyone is right. So that's what I thought
Speaker 5: I was doing. And the reiki master who was training
Speaker 5: me said when she was attuning me at the end,
Speaker 5: she said, I'm being told to attune you as a
Speaker 5: I'm giving a double master. I'm tuning you to Tibetan reiki,
Speaker 5: and I said, I don't even know what that is,
Speaker 5: but okay, I'm.
Speaker 1: Going to ask what's the difference between you Sue method
Speaker 1: and the Tibetan method.
Speaker 5: You Sue is Japanese and Tibetan is right, you know,
Speaker 5: just like difference, right, But I mean Tibetan is older.
Speaker 5: It is believed, and so that goes right in line
Speaker 5: with Chinese medicine. Five thousand years old, I do sheats
Speaker 5: to Aci pressure. This all goes back five thousand years,
Speaker 5: so it's it's believe to be older. I'm not going
Speaker 5: to go back and forth with people on it because
Speaker 5: I wasn't around at the time either of those times.
Speaker 1: So that you remember, like Jesus Christ was a guy, right,
Speaker 1: but it did all those things happen?
Speaker 5: Did he walk on water?
Speaker 1: It?
Speaker 5: Maybe I wasn't there. So the way I look at
Speaker 5: it is I kind of I just laugh at it all.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, this is all really old stuff. But
Speaker 5: when she said you're going to be a Tibetan raki master,
Speaker 5: I know that's different than what happens with everybody else
Speaker 5: in the class. And she saw a picture on her
Speaker 5: third eye of a fire serpent. So she said that
Speaker 5: was my personal raiki symbol. I don't even know I'm
Speaker 5: supposed to talk about that, but I don't care. I'm
Speaker 5: talking about it. Want to know. It was like cool.
Speaker 5: You know, inquiring minds want to know, so that all happened,
Speaker 5: and so I do. I do use that first because
Speaker 5: it's it's a good way to just start to, as
Speaker 5: you said earlier, just massively download the information that I
Speaker 5: need to have a starting point. Because even though I
Speaker 5: heard about all the symptoms and all the things that
Speaker 5: were wrong, I don't necessarily believe it. I want to
Speaker 5: hear from their guides. We say guides, right, So let's
Speaker 5: talk about that for a minute. Everybody's definitions of guides
Speaker 5: are different. Okay, some people just have God. They are religious.
Speaker 5: God is where it's at. I love God, right, but
Speaker 5: I'm not under a particular dogma. I believe in God.
Speaker 5: I love the word. It's great. I believe in all
Speaker 5: gods for all people. So and thank God because grow
Speaker 5: I literally have to listen to whatever guides show up. Okay,
Speaker 5: so maybe Jesus has showing up for that person because
Speaker 5: they've been just you know, talking to Jesus their whole life,
Speaker 5: Like I get to talk to Jesus. That's cool, and
Speaker 5: you know, like great. So it could be that it
Speaker 5: could be their ancestors who have passed on. I've had
Speaker 5: ghosts come in and I'll say, like my long term client,
Speaker 5: I said to her, the last time I saw, I said,
Speaker 5: your grandmother's here. I said, this is the grandmother on
Speaker 5: your maternal side. I was specific about it, and she said,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, well she had this problem too, And then
Speaker 5: I start to get other information, right, so now I
Speaker 5: know it's hereditary, which was not something that was offered.
Speaker 5: So these things start to you know, the puzzle pieces
Speaker 5: start to fit together a little bit with the help
Speaker 5: of the guides. I really am grateful. And then is
Speaker 5: a wonderful guy. I'm miss Santa Little. So you can
Speaker 5: see my belly right right here in your gut, you
Speaker 5: have your gut instinct. That's where your intuition comes from.
Speaker 5: It is the third chakra, that nice yellow color, nice
Speaker 5: and yummy yellow bright where you are vibing things right
Speaker 5: like you get an intuitive hit and you feel like
Speaker 5: it's this or that, So it's that express the expression
Speaker 5: you can't see the forest for the trees, so that
Speaker 5: person cannot ask their own intuition what's up. They can say,
Speaker 5: is that, doctor Wright, am I going the right direction?
Speaker 5: Because they're just, you know, nervous, they're stressed out about
Speaker 5: the condition. So I can, with the help of their
Speaker 5: guides and just my own natural born and passibility, connect
Speaker 5: the outer source to the inner source, which is what's
Speaker 5: going on in your gut. Okay, your gut instinct and
Speaker 5: inner your inner voice basically, and I take those two
Speaker 5: things together, and I give you a lot of information
Speaker 5: while this is going on. By the way, some words
Speaker 5: are coming. Sometimes they're coming in Sanskrit, sometimes they're coming
Speaker 5: in English. Sometimes they're coming in whatever language they speak.
Speaker 5: Week some semblance of fifteen different languages, three fluently. The
Speaker 5: rest of them just dribs and drabs. But I can
Speaker 5: give them words in various languages. So and sometimes they
Speaker 5: come that way, so I have no choice. They speak
Speaker 5: the word when they speak to the word, and you'll
Speaker 5: know this from being attuned to reiki. And a two
Speaker 5: min occurs, something happens that shifts the brain around speaking
Speaker 5: that word. It starts to heal this area where you
Speaker 5: may not have been able to tell people what's going
Speaker 5: on with your ailment. Maybe you're embarrassed, maybe you really
Speaker 5: just don't know how to go about it. Whatever, any
Speaker 5: of that is that starts to heal. The ability to
Speaker 5: speak on it is so important. To be vulnerable about
Speaker 5: it if you want people to help you is vital.
Speaker 5: So all of that starts to heal, and then I
Speaker 5: will start to move on after they've spoken a word
Speaker 5: or two to where I believe these pressure points are
Speaker 5: the various areas in the body that are needing some
Speaker 5: release so that the energy can move and flow better.
Speaker 1: You intuit a lot of these things, and then you
Speaker 1: start kind of a treatment process. But then you send
Speaker 1: them to their Western medicine to get confirmation. And then
Speaker 1: do they come back to you or do do you
Speaker 1: expect them to get medicine to help ease the symptoms?
Speaker 1: Whether good question?
Speaker 5: They come back to me. I asked them to come
Speaker 5: back to me because I want I'm waiting for the
Speaker 5: day when someone says I'm wrong, because then I get
Speaker 5: to learn more, right, Like I really just want to learn,
Speaker 5: So yes, please come back and tell me. They do
Speaker 5: come back and tell me, because I even though maybe
Speaker 5: the western medical doctors are not looking at me as
Speaker 5: anything important, right, the client is, and I want to
Speaker 5: know what they say. If I'm wrong, then we got
Speaker 5: to figure something out because the doctors haven't figured it out, right,
Speaker 5: So then I have to go a little bit deeper
Speaker 5: and see what's happening. I'll update you on when that happens.
Speaker 5: If that happens. Yeah, so far they just go back
Speaker 5: to the doctors and the doctors go all right, well,
Speaker 5: I mean I don't think so, but we'll test for
Speaker 5: that and then it comes up correct, so you know
Speaker 5: when when that happens. That's beautiful. All I've done really
Speaker 5: is facilitated the getting quickly to the answer, which saves
Speaker 5: everyone money, right, Like our industry benefits from that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, frustration and yeah absolutely yes, yes.
Speaker 5: So everybody just gets a little bit of assurance that
Speaker 5: something is happening, like we're moving towards a solution and
Speaker 5: you know the again again with you know insurance, you're
Speaker 5: saving money on all ends, which is so important right now.
Speaker 1: Since it's intuitive and we've learned over X amount of
Speaker 1: interviews that energy has no boundaries. Is this something that
Speaker 1: you could do from like do we have to go
Speaker 1: to Pennsylvania or could you just do it right now?
Speaker 5: I mean, we won't do it right now. Well, come on,
Speaker 5: we could do it at a future time. Fine, I'm
Speaker 5: really set up, like as you know, you know, this
Speaker 5: isn't exactly how we thought we were going to be
Speaker 5: doing this. Yeah, so it's the room's not set up right.
Speaker 5: I would have to set everything up in the treatment room.
Speaker 5: I do have my nice little active pressure chart behind
Speaker 5: me there. That'side.
Speaker 2: Sorry, opsett, Well, you can't do pressure remotely.
Speaker 1: That's a good point.
Speaker 5: I dose things on zoom. Okay, So I do it
Speaker 5: remotely because what I'm going to do is I'm going
Speaker 5: to show you the points and I'm gonna say I'm
Speaker 5: going to need you to put this finger here or
Speaker 5: this elbow there.
Speaker 4: Yet, So I do it remotely and then they can
Speaker 4: go back and keep doing that to themselves.
Speaker 5: Yes, because even when they're in my treatment room, I
Speaker 5: always send them away with homework. And some of the
Speaker 5: homework is here's the point. I want you to squeeze
Speaker 5: on your ankle when you're watching TV. So that is
Speaker 5: important to me that I allow the client to continue
Speaker 5: to heal themselves. I don't like this idea of what
Speaker 5: we do, and I go to Western doctors when necessary.
Speaker 5: I don't like that. I leave and I'm just waiting
Speaker 5: to hear on what's happening. Okay, it's a terrible feeling.
Speaker 5: So I'm going to get on Google and I'm going
Speaker 5: to start to look and I'm going to open my
Speaker 5: acupressure book and the whole nine yards of all of
Speaker 5: my tools and say, let me start channeling myself. Let
Speaker 5: me start bounce things off somebody else. If I'm stressed
Speaker 5: and having trouble doing it, I'll call fellow psychic whatever,
Speaker 5: and I'm going to start to take matters into my
Speaker 5: own hands. Nobody should feel like they don't have control
Speaker 5: over their body right, their own body, like, I want
Speaker 5: people to heal themselves. Anything that I can do to
Speaker 5: facilitate the healing process, whether it's in my room, over
Speaker 5: a zoom call, or just you on your own drinking
Speaker 5: lemon ginger water, taking a bath with ebbsom salts to
Speaker 5: detox I have lots of stuff that I can tell
Speaker 5: you to do that's really really simple that anyone can do.
Speaker 5: I am not I've not taken a hypocritical I do
Speaker 5: not have to follow certain protocols and rules that keep
Speaker 5: the whole thing extended out forever. I can never come
Speaker 5: back and see me again. That's great. That means I
Speaker 5: solved your problem. I don't need you to come five
Speaker 5: hundred times. I don't want that for you. I do
Speaker 5: have long term clients. They're holding onto it. That's fine
Speaker 5: because there's a lot of stuff going on in the
Speaker 5: head as well that we're trying to resolve. If you're
Speaker 5: familiar with Louise Hayes you can Heal your Life.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one of the books I use. She's great, right,
Speaker 5: So sometimes we've released the physical issue, but there's so
Speaker 5: much going on psychologically, and if I feel it may persist,
Speaker 5: then I'm getting into that book and I'm going to
Speaker 5: give them pictures of what's in my book from Louise
Speaker 5: hay and say, here's your mantra, here's your affirmations. This
Speaker 5: is what you need to be saying thinking, Writing on
Speaker 5: a sticky note, you know, sticking it to your dashboard
Speaker 5: like I do, write in lipstick on your mirror, whatever
Speaker 5: it takes to really get it into your brain.
Speaker 1: You know, I've always wanted an excuse to write lipstick
Speaker 1: on my mirror, so this might be the perfect excuse.
Speaker 2: Oh, there are so many comments I can make right now.
Speaker 1: So anyway, Amy, what were you saying?
Speaker 5: Well, maybe right at the end of the show, I'll
Speaker 5: come up with something for you. You never know what's going
Speaker 5: to happen. So I do get into the ACTU pressure
Speaker 5: chart this way right this way behind me, actually pressure chart,
Speaker 5: you can see part of it. It is based on
Speaker 5: ancient Chinese medicine. There are five elements that are dealt
Speaker 5: with wood, fire, earth, metal, and water. So on the
Speaker 5: chart as well. There are also affirmations, there's some poetry,
Speaker 5: there are things that I can read to the clients.
Speaker 5: Sometimes that happens, sometimes it doesn't. But really what I'm
Speaker 5: doing is I'm honing in on these points that I
Speaker 5: need to hit. So you know, like my last client,
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, GB thirty four. I don't have
Speaker 5: them all memorized. I haven't been doing this my entire life.
Speaker 5: So if I get empathically that it's LV eight, so
Speaker 5: that's liver and GB thirty four is gallbladder. Now I've
Speaker 5: got to go and look, I don't have all the
Speaker 5: points memorized, but what I do have are guides that
Speaker 5: I can open and see what's going on and what
Speaker 5: points I have to hit. And I'm always right about
Speaker 5: the general vicinity, but I have to make sure that
Speaker 5: I hit the point that an acupuncture needle would hit.
Speaker 5: This is very specific stuff. So I will go to
Speaker 5: that chart, I will find the point, and then sometimes
Speaker 5: I'll read them a passage or not and just get
Speaker 5: right in there and put very very firm pressure. And
Speaker 5: then I start to use some techniques in chiatsu massage,
Speaker 5: which is really just shaking up the g and the body,
Speaker 5: moving things around and getting the release that we're looking for.
Speaker 5: And I'll see like their body parts jump, things move,
Speaker 5: So this is how I know that it's working. And
Speaker 5: then more times than not, that leads me to the
Speaker 5: next point, and so my gaze will go to like
Speaker 5: the complete opposite side of the body in some random location.
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, I'll go down there, and now I
Speaker 5: start to use reiki again, Okay, to find the exact point.
Speaker 5: There's the area back to the chart. There's a lot
Speaker 5: of movement going on while these guys are just completely
Speaker 5: blissed out. Some of them fall asleep entirely. Some of
Speaker 5: them are there, but not entire like not really, they're
Speaker 5: sort of in between where they are maybe like in
Speaker 5: a meditated state. I could bring them back. I mean,
Speaker 5: I have this guy here to just illustrate what I
Speaker 5: need to do sometimes if I have to talk to them,
Speaker 5: you know, like we do our little if if you've
Speaker 5: ever gone to a you know, place that uses our
Speaker 5: little a little singing bowl or for me, I just
Speaker 5: ting it and and hey, come on that kind of.
Speaker 1: Thing like the Harmonic gig.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that was the best episode. I love that.
Speaker 5: That was amazing. Thank you so much. Fun. So you
Speaker 5: guys are great. So yeah, you do the little thing,
Speaker 5: and you want to keep them there if you don't
Speaker 5: want them completely, if they're a sleep Sleep is one
Speaker 5: of the most healing things that can happen. So if
Speaker 5: someone's body is in severe distress, if they broke something,
Speaker 5: if they have cancer, a chronic ailment or injury, then
Speaker 5: I am so happy to just put them asleep, let
Speaker 5: them heal and do the work without any talking or anything.
Speaker 5: Just let them rest, because oftentimes at home they don't
Speaker 5: let themselves. There's just too much going on. There's too
Speaker 5: many people, there's too much in their head of what
Speaker 5: they have to do. They're get it, basically buying an
Speaker 5: hour of time to take care of themselves and do nothing.
Speaker 5: So if their body needs sleep, I let them sleep.
Speaker 1: Sure. Sure.
Speaker 5: Sometimes they're completely awake and they're talking back and they're saying, hey,
Speaker 5: I see this on the inside of my third eye.
Speaker 5: What does that mean? And I'm like, okay, well let's
Speaker 5: talk about that because I saw this instead. So how
Speaker 5: do we connect those two? So it's a fascinating thing
Speaker 5: that happens when you do stay awake. So if you
Speaker 5: do come to my treatment room, I mean I'd love
Speaker 5: want of you to completely bliss out and the other
Speaker 5: one to be talking to me.
Speaker 1: It'll be wild, you know, So I would bliss out
Speaker 1: and Karen we're talking about just I'm talking track record,
Speaker 1: you know?
Speaker 5: Is that what happened in the egg? Now? Have you
Speaker 5: done the egg well? Or was it just Karen that
Speaker 5: didn't egg? No?
Speaker 1: We both did?
Speaker 5: You both did it? Okay? I thought yours Karen.
Speaker 1: Karen did it a lot.
Speaker 2: I've done it three times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she did a lot, whereas I've only done it once.
Speaker 2: But oh it was good for you then, very good,
Speaker 2: very good, love.
Speaker 1: It shockingly good. I hope.
Speaker 5: I'm going to get to do that one day.
Speaker 1: So then you go to you, you get all this stuff,
Speaker 1: then you get your Western confirmation? At what point? Because
Speaker 1: you've got one hundred percent accuracy rate? At what point
Speaker 1: do you Amy J. Harris go, okay, you don't. You
Speaker 1: no longer have to go to a Western medicine doctor
Speaker 1: to confirms because I know after eleven years that I
Speaker 1: got this. Actually, you know what before you answer that,
Speaker 1: let's take a break and we'll be right back and
Speaker 1: now back to the skeptic metaphysicians. So then you go
Speaker 1: to you, you get all this stuff, then you get
Speaker 1: your Western confirmation. At what point? Because you've got one
Speaker 1: hundred percent accuracy rate, At what point do you Amy J.
Speaker 1: Harris go, okay, you don't. You no longer have to
Speaker 1: go to a Western medicine doctor to confirm because I
Speaker 1: know after eleven years that I got this.
Speaker 5: So never, because the word was both in the beginning, right,
Speaker 5: never never tell anyone not to use everything at their disposal, ever,
Speaker 5: because I don't know everything. I don't know, even if
Speaker 5: i'm you know, one hundred percent accuracy, I don't know everything.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Years of one hundred percent accuracy, says
Speaker 1: kind of that you might know, well, a whole lot
Speaker 1: of stuff that.
Speaker 4: Maybe now everything is the accuracy diagnosing or is it
Speaker 4: also healing?
Speaker 5: WHOA wow, Okay, I like it, so doagnosis is one
Speaker 5: hundred percent accuracy the healing some people are ongoing. So
Speaker 5: I am not Jesus Christ, like you're healed. So here
Speaker 5: you go out the door like that. I'm not Jesus
Speaker 5: because if I was, I'd be dead. I'd be you know,
Speaker 5: like like i'd be the god in the realm.
Speaker 1: So then you're you're older than thirty three years old.
Speaker 1: And obviously.
Speaker 5: In the day, thirty three was maybe fifty, right, I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 1: But we've also heard from people, Karen, that that some
Speaker 1: people just don't want to be healed. You know, they
Speaker 1: say they want you, sometimes they just don't. And this
Speaker 1: is a prolonged thing, so.
Speaker 5: See, and that's what I was touching on earlier, right,
Speaker 5: so in their head they're hanging on to it. I
Speaker 5: hear somebody all the time saying the same thing over
Speaker 5: and over and over again, and I very gently have
Speaker 5: to say, you let me know when you're ready to
Speaker 5: release that. But I'm not going to be one of
Speaker 5: the hundred other people that listens to you say this
Speaker 5: ad nauseam because I am here to help and it
Speaker 5: drives me absolutely insane that I know that I can
Speaker 5: help you and you don't want to release it. So
Speaker 5: thank you for that. It's never going to go if
Speaker 5: you don't want it to go, and just talk to
Speaker 5: Louise Hey or read her book. It's all about that.
Speaker 5: Like you've got to get it out of your head.
Speaker 5: As I said in my last podcast, the brain is
Speaker 5: a computer. Right. If you have a problem in the computer,
Speaker 5: you reboot your computer sometimes right completely shut it down,
Speaker 5: start it right back up. Same concept. Shut down that thought, cancel,
Speaker 5: delete out of the head. Let's have a different thought.
Speaker 5: Something positive. It always has to be positive. It doesn't
Speaker 5: really even matter what the thought is about it. Find
Speaker 5: something good about it. There is something good in everything.
Speaker 5: Every human being will tell you that there is something
Speaker 5: good to be found in every bad situation. Sometimes you
Speaker 5: don't see it until later. Find the good now, because
Speaker 5: if you're sick and you want to get better, find
Speaker 5: the good, find something positive about it, or at least
Speaker 5: a way to lip its, which, as I say, and
Speaker 5: rewire your brain to get yourself away from that.
Speaker 2: I think part of the problem might be this.
Speaker 4: Some people are they have this negative whatever thought or
Speaker 4: whatever so ingrained into their self conscious that they don't
Speaker 4: even realize they have it. They have that feeling of, well,
Speaker 4: I don't deserve to feel healthy, or I deserve this
Speaker 4: pain whatever, without even realizing that they have that feeling
Speaker 4: you've got it.
Speaker 5: So that's where I come in, and I do get
Speaker 5: a little stern sometimes. I got to admit sometimes I
Speaker 5: say things like I don't like what you're saying. Stop
Speaker 5: it right now. They laugh, you know, and I'm just like, no,
Speaker 5: but I'm dead serious. I don't want to hear you
Speaker 5: talk that way, because you talking that way means I
Speaker 5: can't even take your money today, because there's not a
Speaker 5: single thing I'm going to be able to do for you.
Speaker 5: So I'm going to ask you to stop with the
Speaker 5: negative self talk and the hanging on to this thing,
Speaker 5: because it can go away. And I remind them, hey,
Speaker 5: you've heard the stories and you've read the books or
Speaker 5: whatever that people have healed themselves from cancer by eating
Speaker 5: right and deciding they don't have cancer anymore. So if
Speaker 5: we all know that these stories are true, then your
Speaker 5: thing that is not cancer is definitely resolvable. Okay, So
Speaker 5: let's move away from this hanging on to as Karen
Speaker 5: said astutely, of even familial garbage. Right, Somebody's like, well,
Speaker 5: and what I said in earlier shame on me, that's hereditary.
Speaker 5: Now I never speak that to the client, but I'm
Speaker 5: intuiting it, right, I'm no, Okay, it happened with the mother,
Speaker 5: but that doesn't mean it has to happen with her.
Speaker 5: So I'm not gonna say that's hereditary the way a
Speaker 5: doctor wants everything to be hereditary. Oh, it's so much
Speaker 5: easier if everything's hereditary. Well, what good is that? Like,
Speaker 5: we gotta we gotta break the cycle, we gotta stop it. Right,
Speaker 5: So the importance of really everything that I'm doing regarding
Speaker 5: Eastern healing in tandem with Western medicine, what we're trying
Speaker 5: to do is create not just ress of symptomatic problems,
Speaker 5: but future resistance to disease. If I can clear the
Speaker 5: energy channels in the body and start the healing process
Speaker 5: at the cellular level and give you homework to continue
Speaker 5: the healing process on your own, that is going to
Speaker 5: increase your ability to fight things off and resist anything
Speaker 5: that might be trying to get in the future.
Speaker 1: And I want to go back to a point you
Speaker 1: made just a second ago, that finding something that's good
Speaker 1: about whatever it is you're going through. Or Wayne die
Speaker 1: Er love Wayne Dire Oh my gosh, one of my
Speaker 1: absolute favorite teachers really, because that's what he is to me,
Speaker 1: is such a good guru.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. He mentions that sometimes disease, disease actually comes in
Speaker 1: because you're supposed to learn something from it. And I
Speaker 1: can tell you from firsthand experience that I have a
Speaker 1: chronic illness. I've been diagnosed with something that really opened
Speaker 1: up my eyes and jump started my search. And that's
Speaker 1: my good thing, right because no one wants this thing,
Speaker 1: but the universe gave me a wake up call, like
Speaker 1: knock me on the head and said, hey, stupid, pay attention.
Speaker 1: You need to change the way you live your life
Speaker 1: or you're going to go down the wrong path. So
Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard because at first you look at it
Speaker 1: and you go, oh my god, why me, this is
Speaker 1: not fair, And then you go, oh, I get it now,
Speaker 1: and to your point, then you start making some changes
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden life completely turned around.
Speaker 5: So and you found the positive in it, which is
Speaker 5: what we were talking about earlier. Absolutely, it's just like
Speaker 5: I say, My example for that with clients is very simple.
Speaker 5: A tree fell in our house during Hurricane Ida, and
Speaker 5: I knew horrible things happened outside. And I said to
Speaker 5: my husban, and I know you're going to go look,
Speaker 5: but I want to hear anything about it until the
Speaker 5: morning it was dark. I'm like, okay, so my mind
Speaker 5: will start to think all kinds of things because I
Speaker 5: can't see what's going on. Right, forget it, I said,
Speaker 5: you go look and stress out. I don't want to
Speaker 5: hear about it. I'm going to bed. So I went
Speaker 5: to bed, and I woke up the next morning and
Speaker 5: it was still kind of dark out, so I busted
Speaker 5: out the insurance policy and I read everything. I was scared.
Speaker 5: I was like, whatever I'm about to see, which, of course,
Speaker 5: you know, being psychic, I kind of knew my car
Speaker 5: was toast. I knew the shed got hit. I thought
Speaker 5: part of the house got hit. All of that was right, unfortunately,
Speaker 5: but it love it without confirmation. Who knows I'm an
Speaker 5: path I don't see pictures all the time, okay, so
Speaker 5: I'm not one hundred percent accurate there. So I get
Speaker 5: outside and I go like this, I love your story
Speaker 5: because it went like this for me. I looked at
Speaker 5: the tree that fell on the shed car was gone,
Speaker 5: and I looked how the branch was impaled in the
Speaker 5: side of the house, and I went like this, Thanks God.
Speaker 5: I started laughing, and I was like, hmm, let me
Speaker 5: think thanks for what? Thank you for whatever's coming? Something good,
Speaker 5: good's coming from this. Okay, something's good, all right. I
Speaker 5: was like, you know, something good's coming. So you see
Speaker 5: how you start to mess with your mind, right, you
Speaker 5: start to move your mind into what you don't even
Speaker 5: know the positive is yet. You just make a decision
Speaker 5: that you're not gonna go into a crumpled keep and cry,
Speaker 5: or you're not going to start yelling at the dog
Speaker 5: because you're stressed out or whatever, like all the other
Speaker 5: things that you could do that are horrible things. You
Speaker 5: could just decide it's good and then you step forward blindly, right,
Speaker 5: and you trust the universe, God and whoever your guides are,
Speaker 5: and you say, let's see. So within a day we
Speaker 5: found out how much money we were going to beginning,
Speaker 5: and I was like, you know what, Like we started giggling,
Speaker 5: like what the value of the car was because everybody
Speaker 5: wants cars now and we were like sick. So I
Speaker 5: think this is good because we had an extra car
Speaker 5: and we can do without that car. And guess what
Speaker 5: we're still doing without that car and now all these
Speaker 5: months later, because that was September first, with the gas
Speaker 5: prices the way they are, I'm so happy I didn't
Speaker 5: run out and get another car.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 5: That's how you start to look at things, right. So
Speaker 5: back to your ailment, whatever it is, doesn't matter. You
Speaker 5: decided there was something good there. You were going to
Speaker 5: latch onto the good and you were going to grow
Speaker 5: from that good. I bet you have learned so much,
Speaker 5: and you know what, I believe the most important thing
Speaker 5: is that you've probably learned. Please correct me if I'm
Speaker 5: wrong that you can now talk to other people who
Speaker 5: have that. You can say, hey, I'm that, or I've
Speaker 5: been there. Once you've resolved it, I'm going through that.
Speaker 5: Don't worry. There are really good things involved here. Here's
Speaker 5: what I've done. If they're open to it, it's really nice.
Speaker 5: I mean, at fifty, I've had a lot of stuff
Speaker 5: go wrong so far in my life, and when someone
Speaker 5: comes in and they go, I got nine times out
Speaker 5: of ten i've had it, or I've had something you
Speaker 5: know similar to it, or i know somebody who's been
Speaker 5: through it. And that's what it's really all about. When
Speaker 5: we step out of ourselves and we say I'm going
Speaker 5: to be vulnerable, I'm going to talk about it. I'm
Speaker 5: going to say I got this going on, like for
Speaker 5: me it's PTSD. It was a long time before I
Speaker 5: could tell everybody I had PTSD like that from childhood abuse.
Speaker 5: I had to go through a lot to get there
Speaker 5: to be able to speak it. So if you can
Speaker 5: get to a place where you can say I've got this,
Speaker 5: you know, like mental illness going on or physical illness
Speaker 5: or whatever it is, and you would be shocked at
Speaker 5: how many people come out of the woodwork saying I
Speaker 5: have that too. I'm going through the same thing. And
Speaker 5: then you're holding hands in your wellness and that's a
Speaker 5: big deal.
Speaker 1: So I've not gotten yet to the point where I
Speaker 1: speak of it openly so you can tell because I
Speaker 1: didn't mention it here. But primarily the reason for that
Speaker 1: is because my daughter I don't want her to worry,
Speaker 1: so we keep it very closely.
Speaker 5: Like I said, it took me forever to get to
Speaker 5: that point.
Speaker 1: People that are that are close to us do know.
Speaker 1: And it's not that I'm trying to hide it, but
Speaker 1: it's just not something that I go around telling people.
Speaker 5: You're just not ready yet. Do not ask the soul
Speaker 5: to do something it's not ready to do yet. And
Speaker 5: that's the other thing that we really haven't touched on
Speaker 5: yet is yes the mind, Yes the body. I'm healing,
Speaker 5: I'm speaking to spirit because really just you're just supposed
Speaker 5: like we're not supposed to be here suffering. We really aren't.
Speaker 5: So we need to harness our like happy free girl,
Speaker 5: happy free boy spirit from childhood before the whole world's
Speaker 5: came in and told us who, what, where, why when?
Speaker 5: In terms of behavior, and just really say, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm supposed to be, like having a joying life,
Speaker 5: like like be visible all the time. Let's have some
Speaker 5: fun and then I'll just go skip down the road
Speaker 5: or whatever to remind myself that I'm still that inner child.
Speaker 5: I'm very very very very attached to my inner child.
Speaker 5: And she had so much fun. She climbed trees and
Speaker 5: she painted without caring what anyone thought. Of how it looked,
Speaker 5: and you know, she didn't have to be the perfectionist
Speaker 5: that her fifty year old counterpart part is. And so
Speaker 5: that's the most important thing I think that you know
Speaker 5: is the endgame of all of these life experiences is
Speaker 5: if you can circle back to what makes you happy
Speaker 5: in life and attached to that, a lot of these
Speaker 5: things will resolve on their own just from the pure
Speaker 5: joy of living. If you can get yourself to a
Speaker 5: place again where you're just having a good time in
Speaker 5: life and give the stressors their due, that's fine. Put
Speaker 5: them in like bucks be, but fox a should be
Speaker 5: like what makes you happy? Like why are you here?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: What do you?
Speaker 5: Who are you?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 5: Are stop being a human doing? Like b you're a human?
Speaker 5: Be a right, You're not a human doing We're doing
Speaker 5: all the time. So just stop and be and connect
Speaker 5: to your inner child and play.
Speaker 1: I love that. I am going to get a T
Speaker 1: shirt that says I am not a human doing. I
Speaker 1: love that. This has been fascinating and I mean, thank
Speaker 1: you so so so much. It's been an absolute pleasure
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