1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: All right, this is jury Alchimiste from Carmel, California. I 2 00:00:08,199 --> 00:00:12,640 play at Laguna Saka Golf Branch. This is Golf Smarter 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,759 Episode nine six two. 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: We know our coaches so well we can help direct 5 00:00:18,559 --> 00:00:21,960 you to a specific coach. But the experience as a 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,280 whole is you can get on the app and you 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,160 can go scroll through yourself all their biographies, what their 8 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:30,559 costs are, and they have any content. You can get 9 00:00:30,559 --> 00:00:34,119 a piece of that content and experience them and you're 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:35,759 going to get better no matter where you are in 11 00:00:35,759 --> 00:00:38,679 the world. We've had people taking lessons in airports, hitting 12 00:00:38,679 --> 00:00:41,520 balls into lakes, hitting it in the forest, in the 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,359 fields and kitchens and living rooms, in backyards and garages. 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,159 It's really been all over the map on where a 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,960 golf Live lesson has been taken, and it's been a 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,759 lot of fun to watch. We had a coach from 17 00:00:53,759 --> 00:00:57,039 Australia giving a little girl in China a live golf lesson. 18 00:00:57,119 --> 00:00:59,320 She was twelve years old. How impactful is that? 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: Live remote golf lessons takes a giant leap forward with 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,560 the Golf Live app by founder Keith Sealing. This is 21 00:01:12,719 --> 00:01:17,640 Golf Smarter, sharing stories, tips and insights from great golf 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,640 minds to help you lower your score and raise your 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:21,359 golf IQ. 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: Here's your host, Fred Green. 25 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Golf Smarter podcast. Keith. Hello, Fred, good 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:29,480 to have you on the show. 27 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Great to see you. 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, good to see you too. And I'm very intrigued 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:41,079 by your new product because there's been other products out 30 00:01:41,079 --> 00:01:44,519 there that seem to be similar, but you're saying yours 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:50,719 is not. So the product is an app for iPhone 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,760 or Android. 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: Chris, Yes, that's correct, and. 34 00:01:54,760 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 3: That it is for the average golfer to get lessons 35 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,319 without leaving the comfort of their own hitting bay. 36 00:02:04,159 --> 00:02:07,159 Speaker 2: That is exactly right, and much more and much more. 37 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 3: All right, Well, it was great talking to you, Keith. 38 00:02:09,319 --> 00:02:15,080 Thank you so much for all that explanation. And now 39 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:18,199 tell me about It's called golf Live App, right, Yes. 40 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: Golf Live app, and yes you can download it in 41 00:02:21,319 --> 00:02:27,000 either app stores. But we provide live virtual golf instruction 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,280 at a level that's never been seen before. And that's 43 00:02:31,439 --> 00:02:34,080 just the tip of the iceberg, quite honestly. So, whether 44 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,840 you're a coach that wants a tool that allows you 45 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,000 to consolidate five apps into one, because it's not just 46 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,360 a live lesson. We also have a sync lessons and 47 00:02:45,439 --> 00:02:48,199 sending the pre recorded videos back and forth. We have 48 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,319 payment processing, We have the calendar integration, We have a marketplace. 49 00:02:52,479 --> 00:02:54,759 We have live streaming where you create your own content 50 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,360 and it posts on your profile just like a YouTube channel, 51 00:02:57,479 --> 00:03:00,479 and people can subscribe to your channel there and be 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,000 able to scale your name. But also where our patents 53 00:03:04,039 --> 00:03:09,479 come into play is the ability to our coaches can 54 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,960 record the student in real time while they're on a 55 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,159 live FaceTime call. So imagine and it's not a FaceTime 56 00:03:16,199 --> 00:03:18,879 it's all in the app, but imagine you're on a 57 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,439 FaceTime call and your coach actually records your swing immediately 58 00:03:23,439 --> 00:03:26,039 plays it back for you with the drawing and annotation 59 00:03:26,199 --> 00:03:29,120 tools so you can actually see what they're talking about 60 00:03:29,159 --> 00:03:32,039 and see your live replay. And then they can pull 61 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,520 up the side by side from your lesson last week 62 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,000 or tiger Wood swing or whatever it might be, and 63 00:03:37,039 --> 00:03:39,360 do side by side of your swing you just did 64 00:03:40,039 --> 00:03:43,159 and be able to compare the two and then okay, 65 00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:44,520 we're going to get off of that and now we're 66 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,960 back to the live call. We're going to go have 67 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,039 an hour long or three hour long or ten minute 68 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,360 less and whatever it is. The entirety of that call 69 00:03:53,439 --> 00:03:55,800 is actually going to record and save, and all the 70 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,960 live replays you were doing along the way are also 71 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,919 organized and saved separately so you can quickly go to them. 72 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,919 So it creates a very interactive, very impactful experience, as 73 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,719 if you're sitting there at the range with you know, 74 00:04:08,759 --> 00:04:10,639 with your student with your phone, you do this and 75 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,800 then say hey, come here and look at this. Right, 76 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,120 We've created that even if your country's away, which we 77 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,879 have coaches at Coach Country, you know, across borders here, 78 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:23,680 so it's it's never really been done before. 79 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the apps that I've heard of and 80 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:29,160 I'm aware of that we've talked about in the past 81 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,319 are the kind of things where you record your video 82 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:34,319 and you send it to the teacher and they'll get 83 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,879 back to you that you're saying. The big difference here 84 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,639 is everything is live. You're getting a one hour let's 85 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,040 just call it a one hour lesson with a coach 86 00:04:43,519 --> 00:04:44,199 in real time. 87 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,319 Speaker 2: Yes, so some of our competitors, they might send these 88 00:04:48,439 --> 00:04:50,839 ACNC videos what we call and what you're talking about 89 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,279 there back and forth to each other, right, right, and 90 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,360 and that's and then maybe they'll say, hey, let's get 91 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,000 on a zoom call to me. Well, all of ours 92 00:05:01,079 --> 00:05:03,600 is all in one place, and so all this is live. 93 00:05:04,079 --> 00:05:07,480 In between your sessions, your live sessions, you will be 94 00:05:07,519 --> 00:05:10,160 sending those async videos back and forth and getting a 95 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:15,680 voiceover analysis okay, and check ins and whatnot. We also 96 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,480 have on demand calling. So let's say your coach and 97 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,959 you are texting on the app, say hey, can you 98 00:05:21,959 --> 00:05:24,199 get a call for five minutes? Yeah, yeah, sure, I'm 99 00:05:24,199 --> 00:05:26,720 available in ten minutes. Let's help on a call. They 100 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,680 just call you really fast, and instead of pulling up 101 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,040 FaceTime or WhatsApp, whatever it might be, you're pulling up 102 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,120 a video call with our technology and embedded into it, 103 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,839 right and so, and then that call will record and 104 00:05:40,879 --> 00:05:43,759 say so it's not a schedule lesson, but it's just 105 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,079 like you're texting your coach, you know, at the club. 106 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,920 And so we got all these different touch points to 107 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,879 make sure it feels like you have a twenty four 108 00:05:52,879 --> 00:05:55,360 to seven coach even though you're not on tour. 109 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,959 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a huge difference. I meanlogy, maybe you're the 110 00:06:01,959 --> 00:06:03,399 first one to do it, but you're not going to 111 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,279 be the last obviously. 112 00:06:04,879 --> 00:06:08,319 Speaker 2: So yeah, no, you're exactly right. And so we're we're 113 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,480 staying ahead of the game here. We've got a lot 114 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:15,439 of fun features coming out, and we're actually integrating right 115 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,360 now Launch Monitor technology into it as well. So while 116 00:06:19,399 --> 00:06:21,720 you're on the live call, if your student has this 117 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,920 specific launch monitor, all their data will populate for the coach, 118 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,519 even though so it's literally like you're in a bay 119 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,040 with them. 120 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: But the sense that I get from what the way 121 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:40,079 you're describing it, this is not just an app for instructors. 122 00:06:38,199 --> 00:06:44,759 Speaker 2: Correct, So we all is right. So we service the 123 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,720 really the whole ecosystem, and that's what I like to 124 00:06:47,759 --> 00:06:51,319 tell people is we are a complete ecosystem turn key 125 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,759 for wherever you are in your profession or in golf, 126 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,600 and so we service the golf coaches and coaches that 127 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,759 are interested in getting rid of five different apps on 128 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:10,279 your phone, whether it be for video storage, calendar, payment processing, etc. 129 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,360 We do it all for you in one place, so 130 00:07:12,399 --> 00:07:15,959 you're not confusing your students. And so we're always taking 131 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,519 on new coaches and they might just use it with 132 00:07:18,519 --> 00:07:21,360 their current clients. They might not need our marketplace at all, 133 00:07:21,399 --> 00:07:24,160 They just need a more efficient tool for their in 134 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:26,800 person lessons, because we also do in person lessons with 135 00:07:26,839 --> 00:07:30,480 our platform as well. And so if you're a student 136 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,399 and you see me in person, I can do all 137 00:07:32,399 --> 00:07:36,959 your videos, all of your calendar integration and scheduling and 138 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:40,000 payment processing with the club, whatever it might be. We 139 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,920 can do all that right there in person and store 140 00:07:42,959 --> 00:07:47,120 all of your data on your profile. So wherever you 141 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:50,759 are as in your phase of your career as a coach, 142 00:07:50,959 --> 00:07:56,000 we can serve you as a golfer. We have PGA 143 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,720 level guys all the way to one hundred you shooting 144 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,240 one hundred and thirty on here. And so whether you 145 00:08:02,399 --> 00:08:04,360 have a coach you like, or whether you want to 146 00:08:04,399 --> 00:08:06,800 come to our marketplace and go and search all the 147 00:08:06,839 --> 00:08:09,759 different coaches, we currently have a little over three hundred 148 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:13,480 and eighty seven coaches in twelve countries that you can 149 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:18,199 pick from. So that portion, we want to grow the game, 150 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,600 one golf at a time. And I'll get into my 151 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,000 story here in a little bit, but we also service 152 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:28,240 companies and we set up in commercial towers and create 153 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:33,080 a golf activation for the entire company or the entire tower, 154 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,799 and they can go downstairs and at lunchtime get a 155 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:38,120 golf loss. 156 00:08:38,279 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: WHOA So who do you see as your closest competitor 157 00:08:44,639 --> 00:08:49,080 that are not just in function, but is like when 158 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,080 you look at the list of the golf apps, the 159 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,320 golf instruction app to you, like number one on the 160 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,559 list is fill in the blank here. 161 00:08:57,799 --> 00:09:00,279 Speaker 2: I don't like to talk about my competitors games. 162 00:09:00,519 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: Uh, well, there's this one that has an app that 163 00:09:04,799 --> 00:09:05,519 looks like that. 164 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's Look, there's there's a there's a lot of 165 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,240 what we're doing is completely different. And and so I'm 166 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,919 very realistic in the fact that when I'm talking to people, 167 00:09:18,039 --> 00:09:21,080 I do list out company A, company B, company C. 168 00:09:21,799 --> 00:09:24,879 What we've done, though, is grab the core of what 169 00:09:24,919 --> 00:09:26,720 they do, the core of what they do, the core 170 00:09:26,759 --> 00:09:30,000 of what they do, and we've got our own patents 171 00:09:30,159 --> 00:09:32,960 and we've uniquely put it all into one package. And 172 00:09:33,039 --> 00:09:38,120 so when you talk about a SYNC lessons, Okay, there's 173 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,399 a couple of apps out there for ACNC lessons, I'll 174 00:09:40,399 --> 00:09:42,879 go ahead and name those. But when you when you 175 00:09:43,039 --> 00:09:46,799 look at a skill store and on form right, they 176 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,960 do a lot of a SYNC and I'm sure that 177 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,279 they do some other things as well, and and they 178 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:54,240 do it very very well. Okay, I love the guys 179 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,559 at on form. Great, great guys. 180 00:09:56,039 --> 00:09:56,279 Speaker 3: Uh. 181 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,279 Speaker 2: Whenever you look at a coach that has an Instagram 182 00:10:00,399 --> 00:10:04,519 or a YouTube, right, well, they don't monetize that very well, 183 00:10:04,879 --> 00:10:07,759 and we inside of Golf Live can actually help them 184 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,799 monetize that. So now we're grabbing. I'm not saying we're YouTube, 185 00:10:10,799 --> 00:10:14,279 I'm not saying we're Instagram. But we do live streaming 186 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,960 with our live replay. So it's a very interactive live 187 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,840 stream and these coaches can have guests on and give 188 00:10:19,879 --> 00:10:22,799 golf lessons while the whole world watches a live golf 189 00:10:22,919 --> 00:10:25,960 lesson with live replay and annotation and all that kind 190 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,559 of stuff. And so it's a totally different level of 191 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,279 a live stream than just going on Insta live. And 192 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,440 so what we've done is now you can go host 193 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,840 your content here and have your followers come here and 194 00:10:38,879 --> 00:10:43,080 subscribe to you for just this level of content because 195 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,879 we do multi tier subscriptions and coaches they create their 196 00:10:46,879 --> 00:10:49,120 own business. We have no control of that. You want 197 00:10:49,159 --> 00:10:52,039 your package to be worth five dollars or five thousand dollars, right, 198 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,639 they pick all that. And then you go look at 199 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:02,000 a Calende. Right, Well, if you're coach and you're paying 200 00:11:02,039 --> 00:11:04,720 Calendar or you're paying Zoom because you use Zoom so 201 00:11:04,799 --> 00:11:08,159 much for so many online lessons. I mean, we do 202 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,559 all that, and so uh, that's that's really whenever you 203 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,039 talk about competitors, we tried, we tried our best to 204 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,960 create one ecosystem, one stop shop. You come here and 205 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:18,960 you don't have to leave again. 206 00:11:25,919 --> 00:11:29,279 Speaker 3: You got into this space knowing that there was competition 207 00:11:29,399 --> 00:11:33,279 out there, whether we mention their names or not. But 208 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,799 what was it that you felt like you hit upon 209 00:11:37,919 --> 00:11:41,399 and said, Okay, I've got it? And how did you? 210 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,240 I mean, what what got it going for you? 211 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: What? 212 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: How did you develop this? 213 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, to be honest with you, back when I 214 00:11:51,759 --> 00:11:56,080 uh was a junior in college, my little brother passed 215 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,000 away and I appreciate it, and he was the golf 216 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:02,519 for the family. And I really started golfing a lot 217 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,440 as my therapy, right, and I really got addicted to 218 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,559 the game. And my family's overly competitive, all of our cousins. 219 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,320 And we created a golf tournament that you know, we 220 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,679 went to every year and it's, you know, way more 221 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,759 competitive than it should be. And I was working at 222 00:12:20,759 --> 00:12:25,519 a fortune five hundred company, you know, and married kids 223 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,159 and so it was tough to get a golf lesson, 224 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:31,039 tough to get better at the game of golf, but 225 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,879 I love to go out there and play it. And 226 00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:35,200 I was getting worse as I had more kids and 227 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,440 you know, job and career, right, but there had to 228 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,720 be a better way. Well, I went out the Wednesday 229 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,120 before I left town for my cousin's golf tournament and 230 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,679 developed the s word out there at eight o'clock at 231 00:12:49,759 --> 00:12:51,799 night on the range. You know, kids were asleep. I 232 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,840 went down to the range and here come these balls that, 233 00:12:54,919 --> 00:12:57,039 don't you know, feel good? Look good? And I'm headed 234 00:12:57,039 --> 00:12:59,399 out there. Yeah, yeah, that on. 235 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:02,159 Speaker 3: We know that because as you're speaking, your hand is 236 00:13:02,159 --> 00:13:03,320 flying off to the right. 237 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 2: I get it. I get in trouble when I say 238 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,480 that word out loud a lot of times. 239 00:13:08,519 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 3: So with your own game, I wouldn't. I wouldn't have 240 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,519 a problem with saying do you want me to say it? 241 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:15,799 Soone knows what we're talking about. 242 00:13:15,879 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 2: I developed the shanks. I developed the shanks. 243 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: Oh that ass word that one I was thinking of? 244 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,879 Speaker 2: Okay, oh okay, yeah, Well developed the shanks right there 245 00:13:24,879 --> 00:13:27,559 on the range eight o'clock. It's a lit up range 246 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:32,200 and I'm driving the next morning to our cousin's golf tournament, 247 00:13:32,279 --> 00:13:36,039 and you know, I went on to one of our competitor, 248 00:13:36,039 --> 00:13:40,679 our current competitors today's platform to figure out. I was like, 249 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,720 there's got to be somebody around the world that can 250 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,679 help me right now. I know it's late there, it's 251 00:13:45,799 --> 00:13:47,840 it's two pm somewhere, and a coach can help me. 252 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,240 And it just didn't exist. I mean the app that 253 00:13:52,279 --> 00:13:55,639 I went to, a guy responded to me and gave 254 00:13:55,639 --> 00:13:58,559 me a thirty three second you know, voice over lesson. 255 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:00,639 I think it was like forty eight eight or seventy 256 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:05,120 two hours after our tournament was already done, and I 257 00:14:05,159 --> 00:14:06,840 was like, there has to be a way to just 258 00:14:06,879 --> 00:14:09,360 hop on a call with somebody, and then it helped 259 00:14:09,399 --> 00:14:11,600 me through this. But it's got to be if you're 260 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,039 going to make a company out of it, it's got 261 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,000 to be more efficient than FaceTime, which is where the 262 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:21,039 live replay came in. And really before COVID started, I 263 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,480 had this idea in my head. I'm a busy professional, 264 00:14:24,519 --> 00:14:26,159 but there's got to be a better way to get 265 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,480 better at this dang game and not let stuff like 266 00:14:29,519 --> 00:14:34,799 that happen. And so prior to COVID, hitting we started 267 00:14:34,879 --> 00:14:38,639 mapping it out and really putting a pin to paper here, 268 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:45,000 and I emailed out about two hundred PGA professionals and said, hey, 269 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,159 would you ever consider coaching in a live virtual format 270 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,919 in this manner? And I only had two people respond 271 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,559 to me a little discouraged, but I kept on going. 272 00:14:57,639 --> 00:15:01,120 March comes along in twenty twenty and covid really shuts 273 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,279 everything down. We didn't have anything built yet, we were 274 00:15:04,279 --> 00:15:06,840 working on it, but my inbox flooded with hey did 275 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,080 you ever build that internet thing? Right? All right? 276 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,679 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, everyone's like, I can't get out 277 00:15:11,679 --> 00:15:13,399 of here. I need to be able to keep my 278 00:15:13,519 --> 00:15:14,279 business alive. 279 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:19,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And so it really helped us get advisors 280 00:15:19,639 --> 00:15:23,000 and people to help us build out how are we 281 00:15:23,039 --> 00:15:25,840 going to build something that's bigger and better than what 282 00:15:25,879 --> 00:15:28,679 anyone's ever thought of? And it's still taking a lot 283 00:15:28,679 --> 00:15:33,080 of time for us to really teach people how to 284 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,279 teach in this manner, which is teach people how to 285 00:15:36,279 --> 00:15:40,080 teach people, but it's just different. And then you have 286 00:15:40,639 --> 00:15:44,240 your student with you for a lifetime in an ecosystem 287 00:15:44,279 --> 00:15:48,759 that is very user friendly. And so we really believe 288 00:15:48,799 --> 00:15:50,320 that this is the future of the game. Whether they're 289 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,639 an in person student or a virtual student, they're going 290 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:54,960 to be hosted here on Golf Live. 291 00:15:55,879 --> 00:15:59,919 Speaker 3: That's incredible. That's incredible. So now you say you have 292 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:05,759 three hundred and eighty seven coaches in twelve countries, and 293 00:16:06,519 --> 00:16:10,320 are you're still building your stable of coaches, and yes, 294 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,039 what is your pitch to them? I mean specifically now 295 00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:15,240 that you've got it up and running and that your 296 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:17,919 post COVID. Yeah, with your pitch. 297 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: So I'm not scared to say this out loud, but 298 00:16:23,159 --> 00:16:27,879 everyone you're afraid to say, but everyone's got to start somewhere, right. 299 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:33,279 And the product that we that we bootstrapped starting out 300 00:16:33,279 --> 00:16:37,600 in twenty twenty, and God blessed everybody that really gave 301 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,919 gave us a shot and an opportunity and saw the vision. 302 00:16:41,559 --> 00:16:46,919 They hung with us and it it wasn't the best 303 00:16:46,919 --> 00:16:49,440 product in the world. It just had a decent and 304 00:16:49,519 --> 00:16:54,519 really good vision, right. And in really this year we 305 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,360 launched what we call Golf Life two point zero, but 306 00:16:57,399 --> 00:17:00,919 it's still Golf Live and it's a totally different product 307 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,039 that's had a lot of investment into it and a 308 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:04,720 lot of you know, the best in the world when 309 00:17:04,759 --> 00:17:09,079 it comes to video engineers and a lot of incredible 310 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:14,119 brand ambassadors and partners that have really put a lot 311 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,000 of input into this, and we've had a lot of 312 00:17:16,079 --> 00:17:19,720 time into it, and so we've had four years to 313 00:17:19,759 --> 00:17:24,079 put all the pieces together. And so yes, we are 314 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,119 now building our stable, whereas we kind of went on 315 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,279 positive for a little bit when it came to coaches 316 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,400 as we launched two point zero and some people sell 317 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,559 two point zero in January compared to what it is today, 318 00:17:37,599 --> 00:17:39,799 and we've even added in so much stuff and it 319 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,440 looks incredible and we're always innovating and adding things to it. 320 00:17:44,519 --> 00:17:48,880 And so whenever we talked to a golfer, it's, hey, 321 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,799 you're gonna have a coach in your pocket. Whether you 322 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,200 have time for a live lesson or not, you're gonna 323 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,319 get better at the game. I guarantee it. Whether you 324 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,359 just like to watch content and get on and listen 325 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,799 to a coach talk, you're going to be able to 326 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:08,200 find that there too. And you know, we have I 327 00:18:08,279 --> 00:18:11,079 had to put a clause in our terms of services 328 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,279 that if you get in a motor vehicle accident while 329 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,440 driving while on the app, excuse me, h, We're not 330 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,119 liable because we have coaches and students that are creating 331 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,480 such good relationships on the platform that they start driving 332 00:18:27,519 --> 00:18:30,480 home and they're still on a FaceTime call, right and 333 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:32,960 I call it FaceTime, but they're still in a call 334 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,039 with their coach. I'm like, please, don't do that anymore. 335 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,240 And and so you see the type of community. 336 00:18:38,839 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 3: Sounds like a lawyer got in touch with you on 337 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,400 this and said, you know, so we've already gotten paperwork. 338 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,759 People are having problems. We need to ane claimer on here. 339 00:18:47,839 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, No, So it's it's it's uh so 340 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,480 we're starting to build our stable. And to answer your question, 341 00:18:53,759 --> 00:18:58,279 what is your pitch to a coach, we are genuinely 342 00:18:58,279 --> 00:19:00,279 going to make your life easier for genuine and they're 343 00:19:00,279 --> 00:19:02,200 going to scale your business. And if you want to 344 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,000 consolidate the five different locations that your students are in 345 00:19:06,079 --> 00:19:10,319 today into one and help let us come in and 346 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,599 get them all there for you and get your brand 347 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,079 out there to the world, then we're the place to 348 00:19:17,079 --> 00:19:20,119 do it. And we're going to be able to enable 349 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,000 you to do that. And we're not just gonna and 350 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,039 say that we have an actual dedicated marketing team that's 351 00:19:26,079 --> 00:19:26,880 there for you. 352 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 3: And now what is your pitch to the consumer, to 353 00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:42,960 the golfer out there who doesn't have a coach and 354 00:19:43,279 --> 00:19:45,640 is looking for one but doesn't know how to find 355 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,400 the right one. 356 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you can always reach out to contact at 357 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,559 golf Live app dot com if you're ever confused about 358 00:19:54,599 --> 00:19:57,839 a coach or want to get a curated coach just 359 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,119 for you, and we can get on a call with 360 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,119 you and walk through where's your game at, what are 361 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,519 you looking for, what's your price point, what kind of 362 00:20:04,519 --> 00:20:06,200 membership do you want or do you just want one 363 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,920 on one lessons? And we know our coaches so well 364 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,519 we can help direct you to a specific coach. But 365 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,839 the experience as a whole is you can get on 366 00:20:16,839 --> 00:20:19,279 the app and you can go scroll through yourself all 367 00:20:19,319 --> 00:20:23,240 their biographies, what their costs are, and you know, if 368 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,279 they have any content, you can get a piece of 369 00:20:25,279 --> 00:20:30,920 that content and experience them and you're going to get 370 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,480 better no matter where you are in the world. We've 371 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,039 had people taking lessons in airports, hitting balls into lakes, 372 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,359 you know, hitting in the forest in the. 373 00:20:38,319 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 3: Field, hitting in the lakes on purpose. 374 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,319 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah. I have a videos one. 375 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 3: On Sunday and didn't mean to do that. 376 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: Yep, bucket of balls hitting into lakes. And uh, we've 377 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,240 we've we've really seen it all in kitchens and living 378 00:20:54,319 --> 00:20:58,279 rooms and backyards and garages, you know. Uh, it's really 379 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,319 been all over the map on where golf live lesson 380 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,680 has been taken and it's been a lot of fun 381 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,839 to watch. We had a coach from Australia giving a 382 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,079 little girl in China a live golf lesson. She was 383 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,599 twelve years old. Right, Wow, How impactful is that to see? 384 00:21:15,079 --> 00:21:17,839 And so it's been really cool to be able to 385 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,599 be a part of their lives and know that a 386 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,799 you know, there's a scratch golfer on the platform that 387 00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:29,519 took a lesson in his garage. He's got two kids 388 00:21:29,559 --> 00:21:32,640 and you know, a job always, you know, through the 389 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:37,440 day and night. And he just shot a I think 390 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,519 he was a sixty three and got his first ever 391 00:21:39,519 --> 00:21:42,759 hole in one. He sent me the scorecard. And so 392 00:21:43,599 --> 00:21:46,359 if that guy's taken lessons, I know that a lot 393 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,799 of other people listening out here need some lessons and 394 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,720 some pointers here and there, and they might say, oh, 395 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,759 I just do it casually and for fun. I promise 396 00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:57,079 you Golf's a lot more fun if you shave five 397 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,480 to ten strokes off your game, and so we can 398 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:01,000 do that for from your backyard. 399 00:22:01,519 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. This guy says he's a scratch golfer and he's 400 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,960 got two kids. He may have more, he just doesn't 401 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,640 know it. If he's a scratch golfer, he's playing a 402 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,440 lot more. Yeah, and his partner's like, unless you're making 403 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,519 money at this, cut it out. Yeah, I need help 404 00:22:16,519 --> 00:22:16,920 at home. 405 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. That's exactly to be fair. He played 406 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,240 at Texas Tech. 407 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 3: So okay, he's one of those golfers. 408 00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's like it's in his blood for life. 409 00:22:27,759 --> 00:22:29,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully his kids too. 410 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's exactly right. 411 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,079 Speaker 3: So yeah, I would love to hear more success stories 412 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:41,279 from various students. Yeah, you know, great golfers are bad golfers, 413 00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:42,680 high profile or not. 414 00:22:43,079 --> 00:22:48,279 Speaker 2: Absolutely so. Aaron Foster has been a student of ours. 415 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 3: And I know that name. Where do I know that name? From? 416 00:22:50,759 --> 00:22:54,759 Speaker 2: X NFL running back for the Houston Texans. Okay, he 417 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,720 still lives in the Houston area, actually Greater Houston, AIA. 418 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,599 And he's been and fantastic to work with. He started 419 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,759 as a shooting in ninety five two hundred and that 420 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:11,000 Range and whenever you know he reached out, we set 421 00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:13,119 him up. So we send we can send people with 422 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,920 a tripod and make sure they're really set up. And 423 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,200 so we got him every way. 424 00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:21,559 Speaker 3: You did that, you set up that because he's in Houston, 425 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:22,759 he's local for you. 426 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no. So any of our students can 427 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,920 reach out to us, and I have I have some 428 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,400 of them here in the office right now. But actually 429 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,680 one of our partners is I Range, and so we 430 00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:37,880 can ship you straight to your house a very heavy 431 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,000 duty tripod that you just clip your phone to and 432 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,400 and make sure that you are geared up for your 433 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,839 for your lesson in a very efficient manner. It's a 434 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:53,759 golf Live logoed tripod of course, and yes, of course 435 00:23:53,759 --> 00:23:57,839 it is. And so I Range does amazing work. They 436 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,359 have an amazing tripods. Just throwing that out there. 437 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 4: Range what is it? Yeah, I Range is great. They 438 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,759 are sturdy, they're heavy duty. I'm I'm not a partner 439 00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:10,839 in the company. I'm not getting paid to say that 440 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,680 they're they're great. 441 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I Range tripod. 442 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I Range tripod. They're phenomenal. They're heavy duty 443 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,160 and it's metal and or steel I guess, and they're 444 00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:24,680 but they're also super easy to throw in your golf back, 445 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,039 so yeah, they're really great. And so anyways, we sat 446 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,920 airing up with this and uh uh, I think it 447 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:36,440 was a I'd have to go back and look and 448 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,799 if people compare what I said a few months ago 449 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,359 to today, I apologize if I'm a couple months off. 450 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,279 But in a very short period of time, I want 451 00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:47,200 to say it was like six to seven months he 452 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,039 was down shooting into the low eighties, just just doing 453 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:51,920 virtual lessons. 454 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that's that's a heck of a testimonial. Yeah 455 00:24:57,079 --> 00:24:59,200 it was a former professional athlete too. 456 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 2: He as a professional athlete. That's exactly right. But you know, 457 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:05,799 and we're in commercial towers. It's the other type of 458 00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:09,920 business that we reserve, which goes back to my story, 459 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:15,640 and we have employees all over the world that are 460 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:20,119 in towers that at lunchtime go downstairs to the Golf 461 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,279 Lives set up, which is a net and a mat 462 00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:25,119 where their building might have a simulator. But we work 463 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,920 with those buildings to provide everybody at Golf Live membership 464 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,519 and so they can actually walk into instead of going 465 00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:34,960 to the gym at lunch you can go downstairs and 466 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,400 take a golf lesson at lunch. And so we see 467 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,440 people really impacting their bottom line at work because of 468 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,920 the benefits of golf physically, mentally and as a culture. Right. 469 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:51,480 I mean, Fred, you've probably seen more golf than a 470 00:25:51,519 --> 00:25:53,480 whole lot of people in this world. And you know 471 00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:57,359 the power of golf, right, And so we really firmly 472 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,920 believe in that. And that's where we come in and 473 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,160 we immerse the culture with golf and golf live. And yeah, 474 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,680 we have employees all over the world that just get 475 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:13,039 their their mental headspace right and go downstairs for thirty 476 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:14,839 minutes and bang balls with a live coach. 477 00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. So you you've I've got to believe 478 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,759 there's been investors at some point. I mean you, the 479 00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:23,880 way I'm hearing it, you've been at it for like 480 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,359 six to seven years already, I appreciate it. And you're 481 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:34,039 up to two point zero. You've something, you know, I'm 482 00:26:34,079 --> 00:26:36,759 sure you weren't generating any revenue the first couple of years. 483 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 2: Boy, is that rightly? 484 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,839 Speaker 3: Well? So where is your revenue stream? Who pays whom? 485 00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 486 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: It's uh man, You I say this all the time 487 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,200 before you ever start a company. You got to be 488 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,279 so passionate and excited about what you're doing to a crazy, 489 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,480 crazy level because you are going to face rejection and 490 00:27:01,599 --> 00:27:03,400 things aren't going to work. And let me tell you, 491 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,119 building an app is not easy. Any of those ads 492 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,880 you see, Hey Bil, we'll build You're out for you 493 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,480 for seventy nine bucks a month. Guys, don't waste your money. 494 00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:17,480 I promise you. It's a lot of work and you've 495 00:27:17,519 --> 00:27:20,119 got to be crazy obsessed to put your feet on 496 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,880 the ground when you start your day knowing there's a 497 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,839 nine time out of ten chance or you're going to 498 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,839 get punched in the face and reject it. To be 499 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,160 honest with you, but I love every bit of it, 500 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,359 and I just want people to keep betting against me. 501 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,240 And we're coming, I promise. But we do have investors, 502 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,119 and we're very very blessed. We have some of the 503 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,720 best partners in the world. I'm very very blessed in 504 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,920 that sense. And we have Chris Como, Xanderschoffley's coach and 505 00:27:46,079 --> 00:27:49,160 Jason Day's coach as a true partner in the company 506 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,720 with us, not just a brand ambassador. So getting to 507 00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:56,359 have his type of perspective on a daily basis is huge. 508 00:27:56,839 --> 00:27:59,440 And you know, we're in the middle of a cap 509 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:05,160 raiser right now, actually our second one, and stay tuned 510 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,119 for some really really fun announcements because we've got some 511 00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:11,920 really cool people that are getting involved here and backing us, 512 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,119 and we're in the middle of rolling that marketing message 513 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,519 out and it's going to be exciting to tell everybody 514 00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:19,440 who exactly that is. 515 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 3: And I'm suspecting that when you say stay tuned, you 516 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,039 don't mean later in this podcast. 517 00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:28,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I apologize, it can't be on this podcast yet 518 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,519 or else my attorneys might might slap me on the 519 00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:34,519 wrist a little bit. I apologize, but on our social 520 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:36,079 media it'll come out. 521 00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: And let me also say, you know, yes, passion is 522 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,079 really important when you're starting a new business, new idea. 523 00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:47,519 It's always critical to really believe in what you're doing. 524 00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:52,400 But let me also say that you need that support 525 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,920 at home that's going to allow you and support you 526 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,599 to do that and stick with you and not going Okay, 527 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,960 you've had your fun, now you haven't made any money 528 00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:02,759 couple of years, get back to work right. 529 00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:07,599 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you know there's We did a cap raise 530 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,599 a while back and was really blessed to raise two 531 00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:15,079 and a half million dollars in twenty twenty one right 532 00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:17,480 out of the gate, and with some incredible partners like 533 00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:20,960 I mentioned, and so that really helped ease the burden. 534 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,799 But there's always this in the back of your mind 535 00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:26,039 and your spouse's mind, knowing we have to provide for 536 00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:29,240 our kids and long term and all these cool things 537 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,359 that we're doing and all these people were seeing. None 538 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,160 of that's going to matter if if at the end 539 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,400 of the day we don't start producing revenue for the company, 540 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,079 right and so, but at our core, I just believe 541 00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:43,640 if we keep serving these coaches and keep serving these golfers, 542 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:48,079 that'll come. And there's been nobody that's made a larger 543 00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:51,680 sacrifice than my wife with how much I've traveled and 544 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,640 how difficult it is to start a company. And you know, 545 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,319 she was, you know, there day one, saying go for it, right, 546 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,880 And so she trusts that we're going to get it done. 547 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,279 And everybody trusts in the vision and knows that we're 548 00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:10,000 too passionate to let this opportunity slip by. 549 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,599 Speaker 3: Okay, So the good news is that the teachers that 550 00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:24,240 use this, the students that use this aren't aren't holding 551 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,640 you up, aren't supporting you on this yet. But to 552 00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:36,160 the consumer, now, what are the costs involved from downloading 553 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,240 the app forward? 554 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm super transparent. We want to be a 555 00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:44,400 transparent company. And to answer one of your questions earlier 556 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:51,200 on in the cast here is we actually get our revenue, 557 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,680 whether it be from a company a B two B 558 00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:57,720 company that's providing the membership for the employees, right, they'll 559 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,279 pay us and then we pay the coaches. But for 560 00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:03,480 the most part, if it's not our B to B 561 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,559 side of the business, we actually the coaches are the 562 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:11,559 ones that are paying us a per golfer type of 563 00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:14,559 fee that they're coaching, right, while well they bring on 564 00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:18,640 their own golfers and so from a marketplace side of things, 565 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,200 And here's where it's a little different. When you go 566 00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:26,039 and see a coaches membership is one hundred dollars a month, 567 00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:29,799 you're going to pay one hundred dollars a month. And 568 00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:32,559 so we are working with our coaches on you know, 569 00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:37,880 covering our costs and generating revenue through that. But at checkout, 570 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,880 you're not going to get charged one hundred and fifteen dollars. 571 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,079 So we're very transparent in that. And there's a lot 572 00:31:43,119 --> 00:31:44,920 of companies out there where you buy the one hundred 573 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,599 dollars and then you get to check out and it's 574 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,279 one thirty seven fifty eight. 575 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and where where did. 576 00:31:50,359 --> 00:31:53,359 Speaker 2: All these fees come from? Right? Uh So, so that's 577 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,960 not us, and and so the golfer is going to 578 00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,039 know that it's it's going to be a very honest 579 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,440 experience where they get to check out the membership they're buying, 580 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,480 or the one on one lesson that they're buying, whatever 581 00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:07,440 it might be at checkout. That's exactly what it's going 582 00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:12,519 to be. And with our coaches, you know, if it 583 00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:16,160 comes from the marketplace, then we take a little commission 584 00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:18,880 of everything going on. If it's a coach that says, hey, 585 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:22,680 I've got a book of one hundred students, well, come on, 586 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,240 we're going to serve you and all your students, and 587 00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:27,559 we'll just have a per month you know, fee that 588 00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:30,359 you're paying us to be able to serve them. And 589 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,839 so that's how we generate that revenue and fund the company. 590 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,079 Speaker 3: You've used the word membership multiple times, yes, to find 591 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,359 that for us, I guess. 592 00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:45,599 Speaker 2: So as a coach, Yeah, as a coach, you curate 593 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,759 your business. We're not going to run this for you 594 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,759 from a sense of telling you what you need to 595 00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:52,319 do on the platform. Now, we are going to only 596 00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:54,880 have vetted coaches. So when you go on and apply 597 00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:58,359 to be a coach, you know, I know there's a 598 00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:01,480 lot of good golfers out there that think they can coach, 599 00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:03,839 which is great and we appreciate you more than you know, 600 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,920 especially when we're out there with you playing. But we 601 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,440 want to have a very credible coaching platform and have 602 00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:13,279 vetted coaches and so when you apply, you can't just 603 00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:16,119 start coaching immediately on the platform. We want to make 604 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,480 sure that you actually have a coaching business and you're credited. 605 00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:23,599 Speaker 3: So once you have to be a PGA certified instructor. 606 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,559 Speaker 2: You don't have to be PGA certified anymore. That is definitely, 607 00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:31,119 you know, a shoe in to get onto the platform, 608 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,200 if you will. But there are a lot of coaches 609 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,440 like Chris Como that you that are dang good coaches, 610 00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:42,279 right that don't have a PGA certification And so wow, yeah, 611 00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:45,880 so we actually walk through and that every single person 612 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,799 that comes through, and so you talked about memberships, each 613 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,920 coach they can put as many layers of a membership 614 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,839 as they want on their platform and we've made it 615 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,279 super easy. Or they can sell packages as well, one 616 00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:03,359 time you know, a thousand dollars fee for fifteen lessons 617 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,759 or whatever it might be. Or it's hey, buy one 618 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:09,199 hundred and fifty dollars membership and you're going to get 619 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,079 a live lesson, you're gonna get two a SYNC lessons, 620 00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:14,400 you're gonna get access to all my live streams, you know, 621 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,159 whatever it might be. That coach builds that out. Now, 622 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:20,840 we help these coaches with any bit of ideas that 623 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,199 they would like, but at the end of the day, 624 00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:26,719 it's their decision, their business and their athletes that they're serving. 625 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,159 So you can also go on there and just say 626 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:33,360 book lesson, one time fee, one lesson and done type 627 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,519 of deal. I think the memberships are way better value 628 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,679 because you get a lot more that comes with it 629 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,119 for a very you know a little bit more. 630 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,639 Speaker 3: But you know, if a golf instructor isn't working for you, you 631 00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:49,559 shouldn't be working with that person. So how does the 632 00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:53,639 golfer get to vet other than just reading a bio? 633 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,360 I mean they just buy a single lesson and try 634 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,519 out different because it sounds like with the amount of 635 00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:03,679 coaches that you have and with the speed with which 636 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:09,159 you are growing, that it's almost like cost go of coaches, right. 637 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,639 You just walk in and it's like completely overwhelming. It's 638 00:35:11,679 --> 00:35:13,320 like I don't know where to start here. 639 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. You know, on the platform, we 640 00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:22,199 try to put our most active coaches on the homepage, 641 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,559 to be quite honest with you, but that you know, 642 00:35:26,639 --> 00:35:28,960 neither here nor they're all the coaches on the platform. 643 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,639 They are real coaches. They are very good at what 644 00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:33,679 they do, or else they wouldn't be on the platform. 645 00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:38,480 We have actually embedded a feature and coaches can choose 646 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,039 to do it or not, but I'm going to say 647 00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:42,800 ninety percent of them have it where you can actually 648 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,119 do a free fifteen minute consultation, get a feel of 649 00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:49,519 the technology. Is this for you, Let me talk to 650 00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:54,320 the coach and really have that interaction with them and 651 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,000 prior to moving forward with booking anything. And that's entirely free, 652 00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:00,320 don't We don't even you don't even need your credit card, 653 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,079 So when you're downloading the app, when you're creating a profile, 654 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,000 all that's free. Get to the homepage, find a free 655 00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:10,239 consultation with the coach and chat with them for fifteen 656 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,960 minutes with a golf club in the hand, get a 657 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,400 taste of the tech and go from there. 658 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,119 Speaker 3: So then you can just say I just want you know, 659 00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:23,800 the classic lesson is I'm playing in a golf charity 660 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,039 tournament next week and I haven't picked up a club 661 00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:28,880 in three years. I need a lesson, make me better 662 00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:32,119 at me. You know, there's always that that goes on. 663 00:36:33,039 --> 00:36:37,400 But for the serious golfer who wants an ongoing presence 664 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,960 in their life of a coach who knows their game 665 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,440 and they don't have to re explain it every single time. 666 00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:46,159 So you've got all that covered, right, you can just 667 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,960 come in and do a one up. We are one off. 668 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,199 That's exactly where you can sign up for a series. 669 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,639 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And you know, we had a the 670 00:36:56,679 --> 00:36:58,239 guy that I was telling about earlier that shot a 671 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,840 sixty two and a hold on one right. You got 672 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,639 the range of people on the platform is that too, 673 00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:06,960 well really PGA players as well, but that's neither nor 674 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,599 there too. We've had someone reach out and say, hey, 675 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,400 I'm scared to death, I'm going to the golf course 676 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,480 for the first ever time on a business meeting, and 677 00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:19,760 I don't even know what to wear. Can I talk 678 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,519 to somebody? Can someone tell me what to wear? And 679 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,920 how do I act? Right? And so the you know 680 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,480 that person, I'm really really thankful that we're there just 681 00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:35,280 to ease, you know, ease her mind and let her know, Hey, 682 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,400 it's it's okay. Here's what you do, right, And so yeah, 683 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,599 we can service everybody one time fee, memberships, packages. Hey, 684 00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:47,559 I just want to watch their live streams. So I'm 685 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:51,960 just gonna pay this. It's kind of all a cart 686 00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:54,840 and whatever phase you are in your life or your 687 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:55,880 golf journey. 688 00:37:56,559 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 3: That's amazing. I'm very impressed. I think this is something 689 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,840 that I could see myself using. 690 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,519 Speaker 2: Awesome, bring it on, let's do it. 691 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,559 Speaker 3: Okay, we'll talk about that later. But I've been thinking about, 692 00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:13,960 you know, and all this time that i've done this, Yeah, 693 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,400 nine hundred and sixty two episodes, I've only taken two 694 00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:21,639 or three golf lessons. I've always felt like, yeah, oh yeah, 695 00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:24,760 I've always felt like that I wanted to use the 696 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,760 podcast as a way of learning and improving and prove 697 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,239 that it can be done. 698 00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 699 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 3: So when I started the podcast, you know, I was 700 00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:37,880 probably eighteen nineteen. I don't even know if I had 701 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,360 an index at that point, but I was definitely struggling 702 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:45,079 to get into the high nineties. And I've gotten down 703 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:50,440 to you know, single digits, wow, and still trying to 704 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,320 get down into single digits, back and forth. But I've 705 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,159 you know, I've never really had anybody working with me, 706 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,280 and I can see that for someone like myself off 707 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,079 that this could really be valuable. But crosses my mind 708 00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:07,760 if you're playing in a tournament and you call up 709 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,280 your instructor because you're that would be illegal, I guess 710 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,360 because you're not allowed to have coaching during your round. 711 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:19,840 Are you legal for tournament play? A little little fine print. 712 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 2: I know that we've had people have twenty minute, you know, 713 00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:27,360 range sessions with their coach right before tournament, right especially 714 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,079 high school kids, and that don't have the coach traveling 715 00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:35,119 with them. So maybe that's, you know, as far as 716 00:39:35,159 --> 00:39:37,599 that goes when it comes to tournament play. But we've 717 00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:40,480 also had people that do three hour playing lessons on 718 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,320 the plane. People that travel down to Florida during the winter, 719 00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:47,760 their coaches up north are doing playing lessons with them. 720 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,400 They just clip their phone on the golf cart and 721 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,599 that coaches with them the whole round, right in recording 722 00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:53,159 the whole round. 723 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,559 Speaker 3: See, that's the other thing that I think is just 724 00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:58,159 wonderful is that you get to record your entire round 725 00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,800 and go back and look at it again. It's like, 726 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,159 what did he say? Because I did a I did 727 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,800 do a weekend golf instruction. I did golf school once 728 00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:11,639 earlierly on in the podcast, and it felt like I, 729 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,239 you know, made some progress. But as soon as I left, 730 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,599 like what did they say? Yeah, wait a minute, you know, 731 00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:19,000 after two rounds, and now I'm like, am I doing 732 00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:21,639 this the way they explained it? So being able to 733 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,920 have access to my own library of video footage and 734 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,719 conversations would be amazing. 735 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And it doesn't stor to your device, right, 736 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,239 You're not going to have a three hour playing lesson video. 737 00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 3: On your stores on your platform. 738 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 2: And your stores on the app, So it doesn't take 739 00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:42,400 up any storage in your phone. And so we hosted 740 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,599 all for you, and yeah, you can quickly pull it 741 00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:48,519 up and scroll to Hey what was he saying? And okay, yeah, 742 00:40:48,599 --> 00:40:51,000 yeah I got it. Bo go to it. And so, yeah, 743 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,039 your whole history is saved for you forever. 744 00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 3: So where does the pricing for the consumer, for the golfer, 745 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,960 where does the pricing? Is there a number that you 746 00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:03,760 can say it starts at about here, it goes all 747 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,400 the way up to there. 748 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, let's say that you want an actual 749 00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:13,280 live lesson, right, and it's not just the live streaming, 750 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,960 because some of the live streams are five bucks, ten bucks, 751 00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:18,960 or hey, subscribe for fifteen to twenty dollars and get 752 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,800 all of them, you know, free. When you start talking 753 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,400 about individual instruction, whether it be async or live lessons 754 00:41:26,519 --> 00:41:29,840 or the memberships, really the bottom there's going to be 755 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,840 one hundred, and then we have coaches that go up 756 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,519 to about five hundred, and whether that be a month 757 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:40,480 or per lesson, so in between, that's a pretty big range. 758 00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:42,440 I get that. But if you're a beginner and you 759 00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:47,639 just want to have something reasonable, okay, maybe you can 760 00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:49,920 do a thirty minute lesson for like fifty dollars. Right 761 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,800 That per hour cost is about one hundred dollars on 762 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,440 the on the floor, and it can get up to 763 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,079 about five six hundred dollars as a ceiling. 764 00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 3: I'm sure, but it is basically very competitive with meeting 765 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,320 with somebody in person. 766 00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, except for it's way more convenient. 767 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,599 Speaker 3: It's way more convenient. Wow. And again it's available for 768 00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:16,239 either platform. For your phone, does it work as well? 769 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 2: If on an iPad, it works even better than an iPad. 770 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,159 I learned that you're building this that iPads are actually 771 00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:27,800 better than iPhones. Really. Yeah, the memory and the processing 772 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,239 and the chips and the whatnot. And iPad's awesome. 773 00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:33,159 Speaker 3: Okay, So it works for tablets, it works to phones, 774 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,440 and it works on either platform. Well, there you go, 775 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,039 and it's called golf Live app. Yes, and you're at 776 00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:41,639 golf liveapp dot com. 777 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,760 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. 778 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,199 Speaker 3: And what about social if we want to see clips. 779 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 2: At golf Live app, that's exactly right on social on 780 00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:54,840 Facebook and Instagram and TikTok that's and LinkedIn. 781 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 3: Excellent, Keith, this is really fascinating. Good luck to you 782 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,280 on this one. It sounds like you're head in the 783 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,199 right direction and that you've got some really compelling ideas 784 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,239 to make this a very strong and competitive product. 785 00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:14,159 Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. Our mission is to truly grow 786 00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:16,679 the game of golf, changed the game of golf and 787 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,840 how golf construction is delivered in the future and be 788 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,960 a premier product for that, and so we appreciate everyone 789 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,239 that has supported us to date and looking forward to 790 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,599 anybody that wants to try it out. 791 00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:32,639 Speaker 3: Well. I had my trip to Seattle this past weekend 792 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,760 and did get to experience Chambers Bay and it was 793 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,599 quite the experience. Indeed, we didn't get any rain, luckily, 794 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,960 but I guess August in the Seattle area, or to 795 00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:46,920 Seattle Tacoma is you don't get a lot of rain, 796 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,239 so they tell us. But it was overcast all day 797 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,960 with temperatures in the humid upper sixties, which the humidity 798 00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:56,559 was kind of a surprise for the West Coast. But 799 00:43:56,679 --> 00:44:02,199 overall the course was beautiful, difficult, and because it's walking 800 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,199 only and covers seven point two miles with hundreds of 801 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,960 feet of elevation change you go up and down the 802 00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:12,559 hills like four times. It was also a challenge to 803 00:44:12,599 --> 00:44:17,239 maintain your blood sugar an hydration. I had my own caddy, Sam, 804 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,760 and in a couple of weeks we'll get to meet him. 805 00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:23,360 As I recorded our conversation over the last couple holes, 806 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,039 you know, I tested him out for the first fourteen 807 00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:29,679 holes or so and thought, no, this is a conversation 808 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,519 we need to have. This guy is fascinating. The following day, 809 00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:36,679 we were scheduled to play at Eagles Talent at Willow's Run, 810 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,079 but only made it through four holes as the rain 811 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,000 showed up, surprising everybody and it was raining so hard 812 00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:46,840 and there was so much standing water, including like two 813 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,679 inches deep on the greens. We just decided to take 814 00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:52,480 off and we were done with it now. In addition 815 00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:56,440 to meeting my caddy at Chambers Bay, in the next 816 00:44:56,519 --> 00:44:59,000 couple of weeks, we're going to meet a punk rock 817 00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:03,199 band that right songs about golf. You'd think that would 818 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,280 be like peanut butter and horseradish sandwich, but no, they 819 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,960 make it work and we'll hear how. Also, we'll learn 820 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,599 about athleticism, neurostacking hmm, and the current state of golfers 821 00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:20,039 who walk and much more. This week's Golf Smarter Ambassador, 822 00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:25,400 Jerry Alchemsti of Carmel, California, plays at Laguna Seca Golf Ranch. Now, 823 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,920 Laguna Seca is well known for their raceway, but the 824 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,920 area is extremely well known for their golf, which includes 825 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,360 Pebble Beach. Anyway, thanks Jerry for becoming a golf Smarter Ambassador, 826 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,239 and Jerry has also asked for the free link to 827 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,880 Tony Manzoni's video of the loss Fundamental, which was his gift, 828 00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:46,800 just for sharing with us where he lives, plays and 829 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,000 what episode number this was. And I'd like to invite 830 00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:53,719 you to also be a golf Smarter Ambassador and choose 831 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,159 from one of three great gifts. When you play, all 832 00:45:57,199 --> 00:46:00,239 you need to do is introduce a future episode. Just 833 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,920 write to golf Smarter Podcast at gmail dot com and 834 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,480 I'll get back to you with some very simple instructions 835 00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:10,159 on how to play. If you have any questions, comments, 836 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,079 or suggestions for future episodes, please write to me golf 837 00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:18,159 Smarter Podcast at gmail dot com or click on the 838 00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:23,880 Heyfred button when you visit golfsmarter dot com