Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. Well, this point, it's the biggest
Speaker 1: news we've had in terms of this man hunt. They
Speaker 1: do have a guy in custody for questioning matches the description.
Speaker 1: He was apprehended in Altoona, Pennsylvania. Adam McDonald's people called
Speaker 1: him in, said he was suspicious and they are questioning
Speaker 1: him over evidence that links him to this murder. They
Speaker 1: said he was found with a same or similar gun
Speaker 1: to the one used in the slaughter there in midtown
Speaker 1: Manhattan silencer, as well as a fake ID.
Speaker 2: Police have apparently found a document railing against the healthcare
Speaker 2: industry on that.
Speaker 3: Guy, wow and all of the things.
Speaker 2: CNN is reporting that he has officially been arrested on
Speaker 2: the gun related charges.
Speaker 1: Certainly sounds like a bunch of things that were planted
Speaker 1: on a fall guy. To me.
Speaker 2: There are still dive teams in Central Park looking for
Speaker 2: evidence they were originally looking through. There's a couple of
Speaker 2: lakes there, one really big one looking for a potential
Speaker 2: murder weapon. And then today is also a private funeral
Speaker 2: for Brian Thompson, the guy who was killed. I guess
Speaker 2: in Altoona they're waiting for NYPD detectives to show up.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that means that at some point
Speaker 2: today we're going to hear from them. They're going they'll
Speaker 2: explain who this guy is or why they picked them up,
Speaker 2: and what the plan is going forward.
Speaker 3: But that is a significant development.
Speaker 1: The aftershocks from last week seven point zero earthquake up
Speaker 1: North still happening. About two dozen tumblers have hit in
Speaker 1: the past twenty four hours, ranging from two point six
Speaker 1: to four point three. All were about fifty or more
Speaker 1: miles out to sea.
Speaker 2: However, a bid buy the Onion to buy Alex Jones
Speaker 2: in full Wars platform is scheduled to return to a
Speaker 2: Texas courtroom today. A judge is deciding whether the bankruptcy
Speaker 2: auction was properly run. Jones has said that it was
Speaker 2: all about collusion and that there was fraud involved, But
Speaker 2: a bankruptcy judge is hearing testimony about this auction from
Speaker 2: last month how a trustee chose the Onion over the
Speaker 2: only other bidder, which was a company that's been affiliated
Speaker 2: with Alex Jones that offered actually twice as much money
Speaker 2: as did the Onion to buy that website.
Speaker 1: The National Weather Service has issued a rare particularly Dangerous
Speaker 1: Situation red flag warning those are their words, Particularly dangerous
Speaker 1: situation red flag warning for the coming days in La
Speaker 1: and Ventura counties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this along with the normal red flag warning. The
Speaker 2: particularly dangerous situation as they say, the PDS.
Speaker 3: Is that what they call it in the bizs. It's
Speaker 3: probably something like that, or yeah.
Speaker 2: Bob, we got a PDS par dan sit particularly dangerous
Speaker 2: situation par dans partan I like that expected to start
Speaker 2: about ten o'clock tonight and last through tomorrow afternoon. And
Speaker 2: the extreme fire weather could be similar in magnitude to
Speaker 2: the Santa event sorry, Santa Anna wind event that we
Speaker 2: saw on election Day. I called Santa Anne started the
Speaker 2: mountain fire or the man fur windy, dry vegetation, desiccating conditions.
Speaker 1: That's a desicating is a great word. Good job, wrong,
Speaker 1: goong Limb two.
Speaker 2: Southern California's second most destructive fire since twenty thirteen, of course,
Speaker 2: which was the Thomas Fire, the of course Woolsey fire
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen. Also, okay, this is proof some of
Speaker 2: our most devastating fires have come in the month of December,
Speaker 2: as weird as that sounds, but it's before really the
Speaker 2: rainy season really kicks in, so we have an opportunity
Speaker 2: to or the nature has an opportunity to kind of
Speaker 2: refresh itself.
Speaker 3: So it's still very, very dry.
Speaker 2: Sinking wind blows at high speeds out to the beaches,
Speaker 2: generally in the northeast to southwest direction. They're talking about
Speaker 2: gusts as high as eighty miles an hour. One of
Speaker 2: the areas to watch is the Santa Clara River Valley,
Speaker 2: which goes from the Santa Clarita area all the way
Speaker 2: out to Ventura, So along the one twenty six there
Speaker 2: is one of the areas that they're keeping an eye on.
Speaker 4: Desicate is your word of the day?
Speaker 1: Kids? Desicate? We should do words of the day. You
Speaker 1: just did, yes, Desicate to remove the moisture from something,
Speaker 1: to cause it to become completely dry.
Speaker 4: Desicate.
Speaker 1: A man being questioned today and the killing of that
Speaker 1: United Healthcare CEO, as you mentioned, did have writings that
Speaker 1: appeared to be critical of the health insurance industry.
Speaker 3: This is either way too.
Speaker 1: Convenient because he also had a gun thought to be
Speaker 1: similar to the one using the killing, he had a
Speaker 1: fake ID. The way the hostel reported the guy checked
Speaker 1: in with a fake ID and writings now that appear
Speaker 1: to be critical of the of the industry. You're say
Speaker 1: it's too convenient.
Speaker 2: If you were going to set up a patsy, those
Speaker 2: are exactly the things that you would give the guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or he wanted to be found.
Speaker 3: He was dying to be found.
Speaker 1: He was dying to be found with all the evidence
Speaker 1: that they could just button this thing right up in
Speaker 1: a pretty little package.
Speaker 3: With a bow on it.
Speaker 2: Listen, we had said multiple times that had to be
Speaker 2: the obvious reason the guy was targeted was something to
Speaker 2: do with the insurance industry, whether it was somebody whose
Speaker 2: coverage was denied or somebody whose Families Members coverage was denied,
Speaker 2: and this guy was getting revenge. But the NYPD kept saying,
Speaker 2: we don't know what the motive is. Maybe we don't,
Speaker 2: and he was getting upset. I mean, if your point
Speaker 2: is right that he wants to have been caught, he
Speaker 2: was getting upset. He wants his day in court because
Speaker 2: he wants to be able to have the platform to
Speaker 2: rail against the insurance industry.
Speaker 1: Then why didn't he give himself up. Why did he
Speaker 1: go on the lamb for six days? Why didn't he
Speaker 1: just shoot that guy and then sit down with this
Speaker 1: sign that says you're killing many more people than this
Speaker 1: or something, you know what I.
Speaker 3: Mean, Like, why not I only killed one?
Speaker 1: But just why not make a big deal if you
Speaker 1: want to be found out, be found out. Why put
Speaker 1: yourself through going on the run for six days? It's
Speaker 1: all very odd.
Speaker 3: Speaking of odd.
Speaker 2: Odd, holy cow, Hanikobayashi, this woman from Maui was headed
Speaker 2: to New York. She got off the plane at LAX
Speaker 2: and didn't go anywhere else. The LAPD says that this
Speaker 2: woman has voluntarily disappeared herself. She's a voluntary missing person,
Speaker 2: although her family has loudly proclaimed that she may be
Speaker 2: in danger or may be in the midst of being
Speaker 2: taken advantage of by some dark powers out there trying
Speaker 2: to take her money or do something with her or whatever.
Speaker 1: Well, apparently she met someone at LAX. This was before,
Speaker 1: as the LAPD reported, she walked into Mexico on her
Speaker 1: own volition and vanished. She spent the night in la
Speaker 1: with a she happened to meet near the airport. Apparently
Speaker 1: the two formed a quick bond after crossing paths and
Speaker 1: then spent about nine hours together. They walked through downtown LA.
Speaker 1: They meandered their way to Union Station. They fell asleep there. Again,
Speaker 1: we don't know if they fell asleep for a night,
Speaker 1: because somebody had called in and said they closed down
Speaker 1: Union Station for the night. You need a ticket to
Speaker 1: even be a even be there from like a ticket
Speaker 1: from like one am to four am or something like that.
Speaker 1: But they could have fallen asleep in the middle of
Speaker 1: the day. It doesn't tell you what time, right, this
Speaker 1: guy is a oh no, she is a thirty Now
Speaker 1: they say she's a photographer and a smoke shop employee.
Speaker 3: I've not heard that. I had not heard that either.
Speaker 4: Do we know more about what the guy does or well.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 2: They did interview this guy, and they said that they
Speaker 2: knew about him pretty early on. Obviously, some of the
Speaker 2: images you could see that they were walking, they were together, smiling, smiling.
Speaker 2: One of the detectives in the Missing Persons unit said
Speaker 2: that there were days and days where there's as many
Speaker 2: reasons that something could have gone totally wrong as there
Speaker 2: were that everything was okay.
Speaker 3: So that's where we live in that middle.
Speaker 2: That's where we've had to keep moving on facts, just
Speaker 2: move on to what the next fact will lead us to.
Speaker 2: And they said that they when they learn more. They
Speaker 2: figured out the relationship between this guy and Hanna Kobayashi.
Speaker 1: So he and Kobyashi met at LAX's train stop and
Speaker 1: struck up a conversation about nine pm, they say, local time,
Speaker 1: November eleventh. She was leaving the airport. He was going
Speaker 1: to help her get to Union Station. She was trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how to get to Union Station, and
Speaker 1: he was going to help her get there. The detective says,
Speaker 1: for the amount of time they spent together, he pretty
Speaker 1: much was an ear to listen. She just spoke and
Speaker 1: talked about her life in Maui, her personal life, her
Speaker 1: love life, and so forth, and he just listened to her.
Speaker 3: Isn't that lovely a man that listens?
Speaker 2: What say it again? They've all they have talked to
Speaker 2: this guy twice. I mean, obviously you're going to want
Speaker 2: to check out the story and make sure that there
Speaker 2: is nothing untoward. And they say pretty clearly that this
Speaker 2: was just a happenstance encounter.
Speaker 1: He said that she was a free spirit, that she
Speaker 1: seemed coherent and normal. She did not seem scared. She
Speaker 1: wanted to go see the Redwoods, mentioned plans to be
Speaker 1: in New York. They spent several more hours at Union Station.
Speaker 1: They ate dinner there, they went to sleep in a
Speaker 1: waiting area.
Speaker 2: And then she got up, she got her stuff, and
Speaker 2: she walked out on her own.
Speaker 3: Missed connections.
Speaker 2: She bought a bus ticket about six in the morning
Speaker 2: November twelfth, got on the bus after that, arrived at
Speaker 2: the border about four hours after that, walked into Tijuana
Speaker 2: at about noon.
Speaker 4: Look at her live in her life.
Speaker 3: What a strong, independent, single woman.
Speaker 2: Because this guy's not accused of anything. They're not telling
Speaker 2: us who he is. I mean, he's not a suspect
Speaker 2: or anything like that, so they have no reason to
Speaker 2: reveal his identity. But at this point, of course we've
Speaker 2: said this multiple times, the family believes that she may
Speaker 2: be in danger. She may be trying to get away
Speaker 2: from an over protective, overbearing family.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: The side note of tragedy that was her own father
Speaker 2: having committed suicide in the midst of all of this
Speaker 2: makes it that much weirder and sad for the family.
Speaker 2: But in all honesty, it doesn't look like she's. But
Speaker 2: I don't know the rom com version of this, where
Speaker 2: I just meet somebody and then spend all day with them.
Speaker 1: There's spent many, many, many rom coms that follow that
Speaker 1: exact plot line.
Speaker 3: Well, we've done these stories before.
Speaker 2: We've talked about people meeting on airplanes or something like
Speaker 2: that and then living happily ever after or whatever. And
Speaker 2: when I, when I broke off an engagement, flew back
Speaker 2: from Chicago, I sat next to a woman who'd had
Speaker 2: done the exact same thing with her in Milwaukee.
Speaker 3: And you still think of her to this day. I
Speaker 3: still know I do not. I do not.
Speaker 4: She wasn't your type.
Speaker 3: Though, from what I was not my type at all.
Speaker 2: But she didn't give me a ride back to to
Speaker 2: Chico from the Sacramento airport.
Speaker 3: That is a long drive. She was hoping to get
Speaker 3: a little.
Speaker 2: Action, No, because her sister was the one that drove
Speaker 2: us actually, so I think she wanted to get in there.
Speaker 3: All this it was years ago, it was probably weren't overalls.
Speaker 2: Oh so I think that was that answers, That doesn't it.
Speaker 1: Matt took us to a dive bar in Kansas City
Speaker 1: called the Peanut, where everything was dirty, and they had wings.
Speaker 4: The size of your forehead.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: I was, as I thought, you like this place, you
Speaker 1: like a dive bar, And I said.
Speaker 4: But not to eat.
Speaker 1: You look a little hepatitis today. I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I can see I didn't get into that stuff. I
Speaker 1: had a couple of fries, right, but I wasn't going
Speaker 1: to get into those wings. I don't know the pain
Speaker 1: of custody on those wings, because it's.
Speaker 4: It's a dive bar. I mean it's a real dive bar.
Speaker 1: And the tables are dirty, and the menus are just
Speaker 1: like a piece of paper that's been around and it's
Speaker 1: stained and it's it's dirty. And all that was on
Speaker 1: the menu were like wings and fries, like meat nachos.
Speaker 1: And the waitress was going through something. I don't know
Speaker 1: what was happening there. She was very efficient. Did she
Speaker 1: have a side ponytail.
Speaker 3: Kind of yeah, that kind of whole thing.
Speaker 1: And they said that it took about thirty five minutes
Speaker 1: for the wings to get to the table.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know what animal those wings came from. I
Speaker 1: also don't know the chain of custody on the wings.
Speaker 1: Did they not make them there? Did they go get
Speaker 1: them and then bring them. Was it someone's house? Was
Speaker 1: it a trailer out back where the wings were prepared
Speaker 1: and fried and then brought in. And that's why it
Speaker 1: takes so long. I've never waited so long for wings ever.
Speaker 1: It was like forty minutes.
Speaker 3: It was crazy. What's the deal with that? I don't know.
Speaker 3: So I've been thinking about them that I didn't have there.
Speaker 3: Mine was much more satisfying. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2: We are following developments in the murder of United Healthcare
Speaker 2: CEO Brian Thompson in New York City. This morning, just
Speaker 2: before the show started, we found out that a guy
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania had been subject to questioning because apparently people
Speaker 2: in a McDonald's in Altoona thought that he looked like
Speaker 2: the pictures that the NYPD has been putting out of
Speaker 2: the suspect here. He apparently also had a similar gun
Speaker 2: as the one used in the assassination style killing. He
Speaker 2: may have had also writings on him that railed against
Speaker 2: the insurance industry. That would make sense. So cnnis officially
Speaker 2: said that he'd been arrested on gun related charges, and
Speaker 2: Fox News is reporting that the NYPD is officially calling
Speaker 2: him a suspect in this case. The private funeral, by
Speaker 2: the way for Brian Thompson is going to be held today.
Speaker 2: The Mayor of New York City, Eric Adams, is holding
Speaker 2: a news conference unrelated to this, but we do it
Speaker 2: expect him to make some comments on these developments in
Speaker 2: a few minutes when he takes to the podium.
Speaker 1: Keana was able to track down an article from nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty three in the Daily Pilot about a man in
Speaker 1: Newport Beach who was murdered. Robbery appears to have been
Speaker 1: ruled out as the motive in the brutal beating death
Speaker 1: of a thirty five year old Newport beachman found Wednesday
Speaker 1: face down in a hallway of his Newport Shores home.
Speaker 2: Ronald Gaski clubbed in the head and face, they said,
Speaker 2: with an unknown object. They described him as a very
Speaker 2: security conscience, sorry, security conscious person who had an elaborate
Speaker 2: alarm system. And it's weird to me because I don't
Speaker 2: I didn't think people had a home security systems in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty three. I am just obviously not old enough
Speaker 2: to remember that. Thankfully, not that several neighbors. It would
Speaker 2: have been unlike him to leave his residence unlocked, so
Speaker 2: they don't know why, why, or what it was that
Speaker 2: happened that night. In nineteen eighty three, it.
Speaker 1: Was a former girlfriend that went to his home to
Speaker 1: check on him after he didn't show up for his
Speaker 1: construction job, found him dead there.
Speaker 4: According to this initial report from nineteen.
Speaker 1: Eighty three, now exactly forty one years later, they believe
Speaker 1: that they have a suspect. They have arrested a man
Speaker 1: in Huntington Beach, Michael Manette, seventy years old, arrested on Friday.
Speaker 1: They're not telling us how they connected him or what
Speaker 1: led to that, what their relationship was.
Speaker 3: Nothing.
Speaker 1: You got to believe it's some sort of genetic DNA, right, Can.
Speaker 3: We take that? Jacob? You have any chance? I got
Speaker 3: that CNN up right there.
Speaker 2: The mayor of New York City has been talking about
Speaker 2: the person of interest that's been picked up in picked
Speaker 2: up in Altoona, Pa.
Speaker 3: Let's see if I can find it. I've got a
Speaker 3: couple of defectives. Here you go, we'll go over there.
Speaker 5: We are right now in the investigation. He matches the
Speaker 5: description of the identification we've been looking for. He's also
Speaker 5: in possession of several items that we believe will connect
Speaker 5: him to this incident.
Speaker 3: How did we do it?
Speaker 5: A good old fashioned police work. The Chief of Detectives
Speaker 5: and the Police Commissioner made the decision to release as
Speaker 5: much of a photo that we had at the time,
Speaker 5: We sent it across the country and someone, a McDonald's employee,
Speaker 5: did something we asked every American to do. If you
Speaker 5: see something, say something, but most importantly, do something, and
Speaker 5: they did and because of that, we believe we have
Speaker 5: a strong person of interest to deal with this case.
Speaker 3: I want to now turn it over to the Police.
Speaker 5: Commission of the City of New York, Commissioner Tish.
Speaker 6: Easy on that podium, Thank you, mayor good afternoon everyone.
Speaker 6: Earlier this morning in Altoona, Pennsylvania, members of the Altoona
Speaker 6: Police Department arrested Luigi Mangioni, a twenty six year old
Speaker 6: mail on firearms charges. At this time, he is believed
Speaker 6: to be our person of interest in the brazen targeted
Speaker 6: murder of Brian Thompson, CEO of United Healthcare last Wednesday
Speaker 6: in midtown Manhattan. The suspect was in a McDonald's and
Speaker 6: was recognized by an employee, who then called local police.
Speaker 6: Responding officers questioned the suspect, who was acting suspiciously and
Speaker 6: was carrying multiple fraudulent IDs as well as a US passport.
Speaker 6: Upon further investigation, officers recovered a firearm on his person
Speaker 6: as well as a suppressor, both consistent with the weapon
Speaker 6: used in the murder. They also recovered clothing, including a mask,
Speaker 6: consistent with those worn by our wanted individual. Also recovered
Speaker 6: was a fraudulent New Jersey ID, matching the ID our
Speaker 6: suspect used to check into his New York City hostel
Speaker 6: before the shooting incident. Additionally, officers recovered a handwritten document
Speaker 6: that speaks to both his motivation and mindset. NYPD detectives
Speaker 6: are en route to Pennsylvania as we speak to as
Speaker 6: we seek to interview this subject further. This apprehension is
Speaker 6: thanks to the tireless work of the greatest detectives in
Speaker 6: the world, and of course, the strong relationships we have
Speaker 6: with our local law enforcement partners. On every level, local, state,
Speaker 6: and federal. We all serve the same public safety mission,
Speaker 6: and this case, which captured the attention of an entire nation,
Speaker 6: is another example of how connected we are and how
Speaker 6: important it is to work together, share information, and pursue
Speaker 6: every lead For just over five days. Our NYPD investigators
Speaker 6: comb through thousands of hours of video, followed up on
Speaker 6: hundreds of tips, and processed every bit of forensic evidence
Speaker 6: DNA fingerprints, IP addresses, and so much more. To tighten
Speaker 6: the net, we deployed drones, canine units, and scuba divers.
Speaker 6: We leveraged the domain awareness system, our GIST cameras, and
Speaker 6: conducted aviation canvases. And our detectives also went door to door,
Speaker 6: interviewing potential witnesses and doing the good, old fashioned police
Speaker 6: work that our investigators are famous for. This combination of
Speaker 6: old school detective work and new age technology is what
Speaker 6: led to this result today, and we must also acknowledge
Speaker 6: the instrumental role the media and the public played in
Speaker 6: this case. The images that we shared with the public
Speaker 6: were spread far and wide, and the tips we received
Speaker 6: led to the recovery of crucial evidence. We should never
Speaker 6: underestimate the power of the public to be our eyes
Speaker 6: and our ears in these investigations.
Speaker 3: This is the.
Speaker 6: Third time in three weeks that a member of the
Speaker 6: public has seen something, and said something and done something
Speaker 6: that led to a high profile arrest. The triple stabbing
Speaker 6: homicide in Manhattan, the gunpoint robberies in Queen's during which
Speaker 6: an NYPD officer was shot, and now this. Now the
Speaker 6: case will continue through the criminal justice process, and while
Speaker 6: we are proud of today's accomplishment, we must, of course
Speaker 6: remember that a family is in mourning. I want to
Speaker 6: again extend my sympathies to Brian's family, co workers, and
Speaker 6: all who knew him. Finally, I want to thank the
Speaker 6: women and men of the NYPD, especially our detective bureau personnel,
Speaker 6: with a strong assist from our intelligence analysts. We also
Speaker 6: thank the SAC of the FBI's Criminal Investigative Division, Leslie
Speaker 6: Rodriguez Bekshi's and I want to commend the staff of
Speaker 6: the Manhattan DA's office and especially DA Alvin Bragg. He
Speaker 6: has been working with us twenty four to seven on
Speaker 6: this case, and I am incredibly grateful for his partnership.
Speaker 3: All Right, that's Jessica Tish again.
Speaker 2: The New York City Police Commissioner said that the suspect
Speaker 2: that they have taken into custody in Pennsylvania is a
Speaker 2: twenty six year old Luigi Mangione.
Speaker 1: I have activated my female digging what I do for
Speaker 1: all my single girlfriends. This guy seems to have been
Speaker 1: a genius. Valedictorian at his high school. Gave a speech
Speaker 1: at his graduation also about maintaining tradition, pioneering innovations. He
Speaker 1: was going to study engineering. He is somebody who has
Speaker 1: quoted Jonathan Height on digital security.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like, by all accounts, this was
Speaker 1: a very intelligent person. And you kind of wonder, knowing
Speaker 1: the age, was there some sort of mental wiring that
Speaker 1: went bad that we see with young men about the
Speaker 1: age of twenty five.
Speaker 2: Sometimes some of the pictures that have come up purportedly
Speaker 2: of Luigi MANGIONI make perfect sense. I mean, the eyebrows
Speaker 2: are one thing that kind of stood out in some
Speaker 2: of those suspect pictures. And now you can see, yeah,
Speaker 2: now you can see a bunch of those. Oh he
Speaker 2: works out too. Is that what you're showing me?
Speaker 1: I cannot get over the amount of comments on this
Speaker 1: guy being too hot to convict.
Speaker 3: He's not too hot to convince. Now, that'd have to
Speaker 3: be a little hot.
Speaker 1: But here he is with a McDonald's happy mail in
Speaker 1: one picture. Yeah, maybe that craving for McDonald's mess. It
Speaker 1: sounds like he wanted to He's a smart person he wanted.
Speaker 2: To get well, that goes to my theory of he
Speaker 2: thought he was the smartest person in the room the
Speaker 2: whole time. Yeah, right, So even if he did have
Speaker 2: the paperwork on him and the gun and all that
Speaker 2: sort of stuff, and you thought he would still get
Speaker 2: away with it, and.
Speaker 1: The narcissist theory of he wanted to be the guy
Speaker 1: so that he did all of their evidence gathering for him,
Speaker 1: keeping it on his person and basically giving himself up
Speaker 1: in that McDonald's because I think you're right. I think
Speaker 1: he was getting pissed off that the conspiracy theories were
Speaker 1: abounding that this wasn't just one person and it wasn't
Speaker 1: somebody disgrunt told or what have you. He wanted to
Speaker 1: prove that it could be done by just one person. Clearly,
Speaker 1: this is somebody who is who has gone through a
Speaker 1: psychotic break. An IVY League student.
Speaker 2: I was one of the chief of the NYPD, or
Speaker 2: an assistant chief i should say of the NYPD has
Speaker 2: been answering questions from reporters, and there were a lot
Speaker 2: of questions regarding the gun that this guy was supposedly
Speaker 2: holding when police picked him up, and the chief kept
Speaker 2: referring to it as a ghost gun when they didn't
Speaker 2: have a serial number on it, and he said it's
Speaker 2: possible that the gun that they found him with was
Speaker 2: a three D printed gun capable of firing a nine
Speaker 2: millimeter round, but could not say if it was the
Speaker 2: same gun that was allegedly used in the murder last
Speaker 2: week or if this was something he just had.
Speaker 1: Well, remember when I was looking at the video and
Speaker 1: I asked you, like, is this one of the because
Speaker 1: I don't know anything really about guns full disclosure, is
Speaker 1: this one of those guns that were you could put
Speaker 1: it together yourself.
Speaker 4: I don't know why I had that thought, But.
Speaker 1: Now knowing his background that he was an engineering student
Speaker 1: and all of those things that certainly holds water, wasn't
Speaker 1: this particular gun tied back to Connecticut as well?
Speaker 4: And he's from Maryland? Is there something Well?
Speaker 2: I don't know how they connected it to Connecticut, connect connecticure,
Speaker 2: but they said that it's a very the gun that
Speaker 2: they were looking for, this sort of a modernized version
Speaker 2: of a World War II weapon for special operations forces
Speaker 2: and things like that. It would have been very rare
Speaker 2: and it would have been very expensive. Five or six
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to buy this thing, but it's used currently.
Speaker 2: The current version of it, they said, is often used
Speaker 2: by veterinarians.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so again.
Speaker 1: Valedictorian of his twenty sixteen graduating class at the Gilman
Speaker 1: School in Baltimore.
Speaker 4: It's known for its high tuition.
Speaker 1: He played soccer during high school and talked about how
Speaker 1: he wanted to study AI with a focus on computer
Speaker 1: science and cognitive science at Penn. There is an interest
Speaker 1: when you look at his online presence in anti capitalist sentiments,
Speaker 1: quotes from various people, some from Ted Kaczinski, the unibomber.
Speaker 1: He engaged in content critical of the healthcare industry, aligning
Speaker 1: with the manifesto they say they found on him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the manifesto itself was part of some of the
Speaker 2: questioning as well, and as far as the assistant chief
Speaker 2: was saying, they don't believe that it exists anywhere online
Speaker 2: that as of right now, they only have the handwritten manifesto,
Speaker 2: manifesto finger quotes that they found on his person.
Speaker 3: So we'll see.
Speaker 2: I mean, if this is you know, to draw sort
Speaker 2: of the character conclusions that you can about a guy
Speaker 2: who graduates valedictorian like you said, studying engineering and computer
Speaker 2: science or some combination thereof. He's pretty smart, potentially brilliant guy.
Speaker 4: Potentially a preponderance for crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get into that.
Speaker 2: And again no, at this point, obviously they're going to
Speaker 2: try to figure out if he had any family members
Speaker 2: that were covered by United Healthcare or to see if
Speaker 2: that may have led to the you know, given him
Speaker 2: a motive to go after Brian Thompson. But or maybe
Speaker 2: he was just doing it to be altruistic. There is
Speaker 2: no connection. He just thought he would strike out at
Speaker 2: somebody who represented the insurance company.
Speaker 1: Well, now we know that this is someone smart enough
Speaker 1: to do this planet meticulously.
Speaker 2: But still make mistakes along the way, it seemed or
Speaker 2: or was doing these evidence plants. Yeah, because he knew
Speaker 2: that they would be looking. I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 1: Well, he's definitely started the conversation about healthcare. That's all
Speaker 1: you get now. It's all about online, it's all about oh,
Speaker 1: these are all these lefty Ivy League schools that create killers.
Speaker 1: It's not guns, it's education, people.
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