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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app. Well, this point, it's the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>news we've had in terms of this man hunt. They

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<v Speaker 1>do have a guy in custody for questioning matches the description.

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<v Speaker 1>He was apprehended in Altoona, Pennsylvania. Adam McDonald's people called

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<v Speaker 1>him in, said he was suspicious and they are questioning

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<v Speaker 1>him over evidence that links him to this murder. They

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<v Speaker 1>said he was found with a same or similar gun

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<v Speaker 1>to the one used in the slaughter there in midtown

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<v Speaker 1>Manhattan silencer, as well as a fake ID.

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<v Speaker 2>Police have apparently found a document railing against the healthcare

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<v Speaker 2>industry on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy, wow and all of the things.

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<v Speaker 2>CNN is reporting that he has officially been arrested on

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<v Speaker 2>the gun related charges.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly sounds like a bunch of things that were planted

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<v Speaker 1>on a fall guy. To me.

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<v Speaker 2>There are still dive teams in Central Park looking for

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<v Speaker 2>evidence they were originally looking through. There's a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>lakes there, one really big one looking for a potential

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<v Speaker 2>murder weapon. And then today is also a private funeral

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<v Speaker 2>for Brian Thompson, the guy who was killed. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>in Altoona they're waiting for NYPD detectives to show up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that means that at some point

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<v Speaker 2>today we're going to hear from them. They're going they'll

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<v Speaker 2>explain who this guy is or why they picked them up,

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<v Speaker 2>and what the plan is going forward.

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<v Speaker 3>But that is a significant development.

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<v Speaker 1>The aftershocks from last week seven point zero earthquake up

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<v Speaker 1>North still happening. About two dozen tumblers have hit in

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<v Speaker 1>the past twenty four hours, ranging from two point six

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<v Speaker 1>to four point three. All were about fifty or more

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<v Speaker 1>miles out to sea.

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<v Speaker 2>However, a bid buy the Onion to buy Alex Jones

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<v Speaker 2>in full Wars platform is scheduled to return to a

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<v Speaker 2>Texas courtroom today. A judge is deciding whether the bankruptcy

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<v Speaker 2>auction was properly run. Jones has said that it was

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<v Speaker 2>all about collusion and that there was fraud involved, But

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<v Speaker 2>a bankruptcy judge is hearing testimony about this auction from

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<v Speaker 2>last month how a trustee chose the Onion over the

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<v Speaker 2>only other bidder, which was a company that's been affiliated

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<v Speaker 2>with Alex Jones that offered actually twice as much money

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<v Speaker 2>as did the Onion to buy that website.

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<v Speaker 1>The National Weather Service has issued a rare particularly Dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>Situation red flag warning those are their words, Particularly dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>situation red flag warning for the coming days in La

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<v Speaker 1>and Ventura counties.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this along with the normal red flag warning. The

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<v Speaker 2>particularly dangerous situation as they say, the PDS.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that what they call it in the bizs. It's

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<v Speaker 3>probably something like that, or yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Bob, we got a PDS par dan sit particularly dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>situation par dans partan I like that expected to start

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<v Speaker 2>about ten o'clock tonight and last through tomorrow afternoon. And

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<v Speaker 2>the extreme fire weather could be similar in magnitude to

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<v Speaker 2>the Santa event sorry, Santa Anna wind event that we

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<v Speaker 2>saw on election Day. I called Santa Anne started the

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<v Speaker 2>mountain fire or the man fur windy, dry vegetation, desiccating conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a desicating is a great word. Good job, wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>goong Limb two.

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<v Speaker 2>Southern California's second most destructive fire since twenty thirteen, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>which was the Thomas Fire, the of course Woolsey fire

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty eighteen. Also, okay, this is proof some of

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<v Speaker 2>our most devastating fires have come in the month of December,

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<v Speaker 2>as weird as that sounds, but it's before really the

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<v Speaker 2>rainy season really kicks in, so we have an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to or the nature has an opportunity to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>refresh itself.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's still very, very dry.

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<v Speaker 2>Sinking wind blows at high speeds out to the beaches,

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<v Speaker 2>generally in the northeast to southwest direction. They're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>gusts as high as eighty miles an hour. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the areas to watch is the Santa Clara River Valley,

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<v Speaker 2>which goes from the Santa Clarita area all the way

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<v Speaker 2>out to Ventura, So along the one twenty six there

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the areas that they're keeping an eye on.

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<v Speaker 4>Desicate is your word of the day?

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<v Speaker 1>Kids? Desicate? We should do words of the day. You

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<v Speaker 1>just did, yes, Desicate to remove the moisture from something,

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<v Speaker 1>to cause it to become completely dry.

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<v Speaker 4>Desicate.

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<v Speaker 1>A man being questioned today and the killing of that

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<v Speaker 1>United Healthcare CEO, as you mentioned, did have writings that

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<v Speaker 1>appeared to be critical of the health insurance industry.

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<v Speaker 3>This is either way too.

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<v Speaker 1>Convenient because he also had a gun thought to be

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<v Speaker 1>similar to the one using the killing, he had a

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<v Speaker 1>fake ID. The way the hostel reported the guy checked

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<v Speaker 1>in with a fake ID and writings now that appear

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<v Speaker 1>to be critical of the of the industry. You're say

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<v Speaker 1>it's too convenient.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were going to set up a patsy, those

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<v Speaker 2>are exactly the things that you would give the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or he wanted to be found.

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<v Speaker 3>He was dying to be found.

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<v Speaker 1>He was dying to be found with all the evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that they could just button this thing right up in

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty little package.

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<v Speaker 3>With a bow on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, we had said multiple times that had to be

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<v Speaker 2>the obvious reason the guy was targeted was something to

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<v Speaker 2>do with the insurance industry, whether it was somebody whose

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<v Speaker 2>coverage was denied or somebody whose Families Members coverage was denied,

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<v Speaker 2>and this guy was getting revenge. But the NYPD kept saying,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know what the motive is. Maybe we don't,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was getting upset. I mean, if your point

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<v Speaker 2>is right that he wants to have been caught, he

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<v Speaker 2>was getting upset. He wants his day in court because

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to be able to have the platform to

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<v Speaker 2>rail against the insurance industry.

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<v Speaker 1>Then why didn't he give himself up. Why did he

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<v Speaker 1>go on the lamb for six days? Why didn't he

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<v Speaker 1>just shoot that guy and then sit down with this

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<v Speaker 1>sign that says you're killing many more people than this

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<v Speaker 1>or something, you know what I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, Like, why not I only killed one?

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<v Speaker 1>But just why not make a big deal if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be found out, be found out. Why put

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<v Speaker 1>yourself through going on the run for six days? It's

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<v Speaker 1>all very odd.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of odd.

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<v Speaker 2>Odd, holy cow, Hanikobayashi, this woman from Maui was headed

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<v Speaker 2>to New York. She got off the plane at LAX

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<v Speaker 2>and didn't go anywhere else. The LAPD says that this

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<v Speaker 2>woman has voluntarily disappeared herself. She's a voluntary missing person,

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<v Speaker 2>although her family has loudly proclaimed that she may be

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<v Speaker 2>in danger or may be in the midst of being

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<v Speaker 2>taken advantage of by some dark powers out there trying

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<v Speaker 2>to take her money or do something with her or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, apparently she met someone at LAX. This was before,

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<v Speaker 1>as the LAPD reported, she walked into Mexico on her

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<v Speaker 1>with a she happened to meet near the airport. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>the two formed a quick bond after crossing paths and

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<v Speaker 1>then spent about nine hours together. They walked through downtown LA.

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<v Speaker 1>They meandered their way to Union Station. They fell asleep there. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know if they fell asleep for a night,

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<v Speaker 1>because somebody had called in and said they closed down

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<v Speaker 1>Union Station for the night. You need a ticket to

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<v Speaker 1>even be a even be there from like a ticket

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<v Speaker 1>from like one am to four am or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But they could have fallen asleep in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the day. It doesn't tell you what time, right, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy is a oh no, she is a thirty Now

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<v Speaker 1>they say she's a photographer and a smoke shop employee.

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<v Speaker 3>I've not heard that. I had not heard that either.

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<v Speaker 4>Do we know more about what the guy does or well.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>They did interview this guy, and they said that they

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<v Speaker 2>knew about him pretty early on. Obviously, some of the

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<v Speaker 2>images you could see that they were walking, they were together, smiling, smiling.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the detectives in the Missing Persons unit said

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<v Speaker 2>that there were days and days where there's as many

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<v Speaker 2>reasons that something could have gone totally wrong as there

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<v Speaker 2>were that everything was okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's where we live in that middle.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where we've had to keep moving on facts, just

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<v Speaker 2>move on to what the next fact will lead us to.

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<v Speaker 2>And they said that they when they learn more. They

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<v Speaker 2>figured out the relationship between this guy and Hanna Kobayashi.

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<v Speaker 1>So he and Kobyashi met at LAX's train stop and

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<v Speaker 1>struck up a conversation about nine pm, they say, local time,

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<v Speaker 1>November eleventh. She was leaving the airport. He was going

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<v Speaker 1>to help her get to Union Station. She was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to get to Union Station, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to help her get there. The detective says,

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<v Speaker 1>for the amount of time they spent together, he pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much was an ear to listen. She just spoke and

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<v Speaker 1>talked about her life in Maui, her personal life, her

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<v Speaker 1>love life, and so forth, and he just listened to her.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't that lovely a man that listens?

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<v Speaker 2>What say it again? They've all they have talked to

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<v Speaker 2>this guy twice. I mean, obviously you're going to want

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<v Speaker 2>to check out the story and make sure that there

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<v Speaker 2>is nothing untoward. And they say pretty clearly that this

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<v Speaker 2>was just a happenstance encounter.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that she was a free spirit, that she

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<v Speaker 1>seemed coherent and normal. She did not seem scared. She

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to go see the Redwoods, mentioned plans to be

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<v Speaker 1>in New York. They spent several more hours at Union Station.

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<v Speaker 1>They ate dinner there, they went to sleep in a

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<v Speaker 1>waiting area.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she got up, she got her stuff, and

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<v Speaker 3>Missed connections.

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<v Speaker 2>She bought a bus ticket about six in the morning

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<v Speaker 2>November twelfth, got on the bus after that, arrived at

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<v Speaker 2>the border about four hours after that, walked into Tijuana

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<v Speaker 2>at about noon.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at her live in her life.

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<v Speaker 3>What a strong, independent, single woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Because this guy's not accused of anything. They're not telling

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<v Speaker 2>us who he is. I mean, he's not a suspect

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<v Speaker 2>or anything like that, so they have no reason to

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<v Speaker 2>reveal his identity. But at this point, of course we've

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<v Speaker 2>said this multiple times, the family believes that she may

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<v Speaker 2>be in danger. She may be trying to get away

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<v Speaker 2>from an over protective, overbearing family.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>The side note of tragedy that was her own father

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<v Speaker 2>having committed suicide in the midst of all of this

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<v Speaker 2>makes it that much weirder and sad for the family.

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<v Speaker 2>But in all honesty, it doesn't look like she's. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the rom com version of this, where

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<v Speaker 2>I just meet somebody and then spend all day with them.

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<v Speaker 1>There's spent many, many, many rom coms that follow that

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<v Speaker 1>exact plot line.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we've done these stories before.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked about people meeting on airplanes or something like

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<v Speaker 2>that and then living happily ever after or whatever. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I, when I broke off an engagement, flew back

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<v Speaker 2>from Chicago, I sat next to a woman who'd had

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<v Speaker 2>done the exact same thing with her in Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 3>And you still think of her to this day. I

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<v Speaker 4>She wasn't your type.

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<v Speaker 3>Though, from what I was not my type at all.

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<v Speaker 2>But she didn't give me a ride back to to

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<v Speaker 3>That is a long drive. She was hoping to get

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<v Speaker 2>Action, No, because her sister was the one that drove

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<v Speaker 2>us actually, so I think she wanted to get in there.

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<v Speaker 3>All this it was years ago, it was probably weren't overalls.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so I think that was that answers, That doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt took us to a dive bar in Kansas City

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<v Speaker 1>called the Peanut, where everything was dirty, and they had wings.

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<v Speaker 4>The size of your forehead.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, as I thought, you like this place, you

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<v Speaker 1>like a dive bar, And I said.

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<v Speaker 4>But not to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>You look a little hepatitis today. I know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see I didn't get into that stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a couple of fries, right, but I wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into those wings. I don't know the pain

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<v Speaker 1>of custody on those wings, because it's.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a dive bar. I mean it's a real dive bar.

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<v Speaker 1>And the tables are dirty, and the menus are just

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<v Speaker 1>the menu were like wings and fries, like meat nachos.

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<v Speaker 1>And the waitress was going through something. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what was happening there. She was very efficient. Did she

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<v Speaker 1>And they said that it took about thirty five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what animal those wings came from. I

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<v Speaker 1>also don't know the chain of custody on the wings.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they not make them there? Did they go get

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<v Speaker 1>them and then bring them. Was it someone's house? Was

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<v Speaker 1>it a trailer out back where the wings were prepared

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<v Speaker 1>and fried and then brought in. And that's why it

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<v Speaker 1>takes so long. I've never waited so long for wings ever.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like forty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>It was crazy. What's the deal with that? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've been thinking about them that I didn't have there.

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<v Speaker 3>Mine was much more satisfying. I'll tell you that.

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<v Speaker 2>We are following developments in the murder of United Healthcare

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<v Speaker 2>CEO Brian Thompson in New York City. This morning, just

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<v Speaker 2>before the show started, we found out that a guy

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<v Speaker 2>in Pennsylvania had been subject to questioning because apparently people

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<v Speaker 2>in a McDonald's in Altoona thought that he looked like

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<v Speaker 2>the pictures that the NYPD has been putting out of

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<v Speaker 2>the suspect here. He apparently also had a similar gun

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<v Speaker 2>as the one used in the assassination style killing. He

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<v Speaker 2>may have had also writings on him that railed against

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<v Speaker 2>the insurance industry. That would make sense. So cnnis officially

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<v Speaker 2>said that he'd been arrested on gun related charges, and

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<v Speaker 2>Fox News is reporting that the NYPD is officially calling

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<v Speaker 2>him a suspect in this case. The private funeral, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way for Brian Thompson is going to be held today.

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<v Speaker 2>The Mayor of New York City, Eric Adams, is holding

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<v Speaker 2>a news conference unrelated to this, but we do it

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<v Speaker 2>expect him to make some comments on these developments in

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<v Speaker 2>a few minutes when he takes to the podium.

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<v Speaker 1>Keana was able to track down an article from nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty three in the Daily Pilot about a man in

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<v Speaker 1>Newport Beach who was murdered. Robbery appears to have been

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<v Speaker 1>ruled out as the motive in the brutal beating death

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<v Speaker 1>of a thirty five year old Newport beachman found Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>face down in a hallway of his Newport Shores home.

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<v Speaker 2>Ronald Gaski clubbed in the head and face, they said,

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<v Speaker 2>with an unknown object. They described him as a very

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<v Speaker 2>security conscience, sorry, security conscious person who had an elaborate

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<v Speaker 2>alarm system. And it's weird to me because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think people had a home security systems in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty three. I am just obviously not old enough

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<v Speaker 2>to remember that. Thankfully, not that several neighbors. It would

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<v Speaker 2>have been unlike him to leave his residence unlocked, so

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<v Speaker 2>they don't know why, why, or what it was that

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<v Speaker 2>happened that night. In nineteen eighty three, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a former girlfriend that went to his home to

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<v Speaker 1>check on him after he didn't show up for his

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<v Speaker 1>construction job, found him dead there.

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<v Speaker 4>According to this initial report from nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty three, now exactly forty one years later, they believe

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<v Speaker 1>that they have a suspect. They have arrested a man

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<v Speaker 1>in Huntington Beach, Michael Manette, seventy years old, arrested on Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not telling us how they connected him or what

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<v Speaker 1>led to that, what their relationship was.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to believe it's some sort of genetic DNA, right, Can.

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<v Speaker 3>We take that? Jacob? You have any chance? I got

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<v Speaker 3>that CNN up right there.

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<v Speaker 2>The mayor of New York City has been talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the person of interest that's been picked up in picked

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<v Speaker 2>up in Altoona, Pa.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see if I can find it. I've got a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of defectives. Here you go, we'll go over there.

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<v Speaker 5>We are right now in the investigation. He matches the

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<v Speaker 5>description of the identification we've been looking for. He's also

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<v Speaker 5>in possession of several items that we believe will connect

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<v Speaker 5>him to this incident.

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<v Speaker 3>How did we do it?

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<v Speaker 5>A good old fashioned police work. The Chief of Detectives

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<v Speaker 5>and the Police Commissioner made the decision to release as

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<v Speaker 5>much of a photo that we had at the time,

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<v Speaker 5>We sent it across the country and someone, a McDonald's employee,

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<v Speaker 5>did something we asked every American to do. If you

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<v Speaker 5>see something, say something, but most importantly, do something, and

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<v Speaker 5>they did and because of that, we believe we have

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<v Speaker 5>a strong person of interest to deal with this case.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to now turn it over to the Police.

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<v Speaker 5>Commission of the City of New York, Commissioner Tish.

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<v Speaker 6>Easy on that podium, Thank you, mayor good afternoon everyone.

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<v Speaker 6>Earlier this morning in Altoona, Pennsylvania, members of the Altoona

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<v Speaker 6>Police Department arrested Luigi Mangioni, a twenty six year old

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<v Speaker 6>mail on firearms charges. At this time, he is believed

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<v Speaker 6>to be our person of interest in the brazen targeted

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<v Speaker 6>murder of Brian Thompson, CEO of United Healthcare last Wednesday

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<v Speaker 6>in midtown Manhattan. The suspect was in a McDonald's and

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<v Speaker 6>was recognized by an employee, who then called local police.

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<v Speaker 6>Responding officers questioned the suspect, who was acting suspiciously and

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<v Speaker 6>was carrying multiple fraudulent IDs as well as a US passport.

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<v Speaker 6>Upon further investigation, officers recovered a firearm on his person

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<v Speaker 6>as well as a suppressor, both consistent with the weapon

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<v Speaker 6>used in the murder. They also recovered clothing, including a mask,

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<v Speaker 6>consistent with those worn by our wanted individual. Also recovered

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<v Speaker 6>was a fraudulent New Jersey ID, matching the ID our

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<v Speaker 6>suspect used to check into his New York City hostel

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<v Speaker 6>before the shooting incident. Additionally, officers recovered a handwritten document

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<v Speaker 6>that speaks to both his motivation and mindset. NYPD detectives

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<v Speaker 6>are en route to Pennsylvania as we speak to as

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<v Speaker 6>we seek to interview this subject further. This apprehension is

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<v Speaker 6>thanks to the tireless work of the greatest detectives in

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<v Speaker 6>the world, and of course, the strong relationships we have

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<v Speaker 6>with our local law enforcement partners. On every level, local, state,

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<v Speaker 6>and federal. We all serve the same public safety mission,

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<v Speaker 6>and this case, which captured the attention of an entire nation,

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<v Speaker 6>is another example of how connected we are and how

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<v Speaker 6>important it is to work together, share information, and pursue

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<v Speaker 6>every lead For just over five days. Our NYPD investigators

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<v Speaker 6>comb through thousands of hours of video, followed up on

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<v Speaker 6>hundreds of tips, and processed every bit of forensic evidence

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<v Speaker 6>DNA fingerprints, IP addresses, and so much more. To tighten

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<v Speaker 6>the net, we deployed drones, canine units, and scuba divers.

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<v Speaker 6>We leveraged the domain awareness system, our GIST cameras, and

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<v Speaker 6>conducted aviation canvases. And our detectives also went door to door,

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<v Speaker 6>interviewing potential witnesses and doing the good, old fashioned police

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<v Speaker 6>work that our investigators are famous for. This combination of

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<v Speaker 6>old school detective work and new age technology is what

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<v Speaker 6>led to this result today, and we must also acknowledge

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<v Speaker 6>the instrumental role the media and the public played in

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<v Speaker 6>this case. The images that we shared with the public

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<v Speaker 6>were spread far and wide, and the tips we received

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<v Speaker 6>led to the recovery of crucial evidence. We should never

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<v Speaker 6>underestimate the power of the public to be our eyes

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<v Speaker 6>and our ears in these investigations.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the.

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<v Speaker 6>Third time in three weeks that a member of the

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<v Speaker 6>public has seen something, and said something and done something

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<v Speaker 6>that led to a high profile arrest. The triple stabbing

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<v Speaker 6>homicide in Manhattan, the gunpoint robberies in Queen's during which

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<v Speaker 6>an NYPD officer was shot, and now this. Now the

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<v Speaker 6>case will continue through the criminal justice process, and while

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<v Speaker 6>we are proud of today's accomplishment, we must, of course

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<v Speaker 6>remember that a family is in mourning. I want to

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<v Speaker 6>again extend my sympathies to Brian's family, co workers, and

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<v Speaker 6>all who knew him. Finally, I want to thank the

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<v Speaker 6>women and men of the NYPD, especially our detective bureau personnel,

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<v Speaker 6>with a strong assist from our intelligence analysts. We also

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<v Speaker 6>thank the SAC of the FBI's Criminal Investigative Division, Leslie

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<v Speaker 6>Rodriguez Bekshi's and I want to commend the staff of

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<v Speaker 6>the Manhattan DA's office and especially DA Alvin Bragg. He

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<v Speaker 6>has been working with us twenty four to seven on

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<v Speaker 6>this case, and I am incredibly grateful for his partnership.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, that's Jessica Tish again.

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<v Speaker 2>The New York City Police Commissioner said that the suspect

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<v Speaker 2>that they have taken into custody in Pennsylvania is a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six year old Luigi Mangione.

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<v Speaker 1>I have activated my female digging what I do for

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<v Speaker 1>all my single girlfriends. This guy seems to have been

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<v Speaker 1>a genius. Valedictorian at his high school. Gave a speech

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<v Speaker 1>at his graduation also about maintaining tradition, pioneering innovations. He

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<v Speaker 1>was going to study engineering. He is somebody who has

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<v Speaker 1>quoted Jonathan Height on digital security.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it seems like, by all accounts, this was

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<v Speaker 1>a very intelligent person. And you kind of wonder, knowing

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes some of the pictures that have come up purportedly

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<v Speaker 2>of Luigi MANGIONI make perfect sense. I mean, the eyebrows

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<v Speaker 2>are one thing that kind of stood out in some

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<v Speaker 2>of those suspect pictures. And now you can see, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>now you can see a bunch of those. Oh he

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<v Speaker 2>works out too. Is that what you're showing me?

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot get over the amount of comments on this

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<v Speaker 3>He's not too hot to convince. Now, that'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>But here he is with a McDonald's happy mail in

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<v Speaker 1>one picture. Yeah, maybe that craving for McDonald's mess. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like he wanted to He's a smart person he wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>To get well, that goes to my theory of he

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<v Speaker 2>whole time. Yeah, right, So even if he did have

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<v Speaker 1>The narcissist theory of he wanted to be the guy

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<v Speaker 1>so that he did all of their evidence gathering for him,

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<v Speaker 1>keeping it on his person and basically giving himself up

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<v Speaker 1>in that McDonald's because I think you're right. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he was getting pissed off that the conspiracy theories were

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<v Speaker 1>abounding that this wasn't just one person and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>somebody disgrunt told or what have you. He wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>prove that it could be done by just one person. Clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>this is somebody who is who has gone through a

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<v Speaker 1>psychotic break. An IVY League student.

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<v Speaker 2>I was one of the chief of the NYPD, or

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<v Speaker 2>an assistant chief i should say of the NYPD has

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<v Speaker 2>been answering questions from reporters, and there were a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of questions regarding the gun that this guy was supposedly

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<v Speaker 2>holding when police picked him up, and the chief kept

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<v Speaker 2>referring to it as a ghost gun when they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a serial number on it, and he said it's

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<v Speaker 2>possible that the gun that they found him with was

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<v Speaker 2>a three D printed gun capable of firing a nine

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<v Speaker 2>millimeter round, but could not say if it was the

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<v Speaker 2>same gun that was allegedly used in the murder last

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<v Speaker 2>week or if this was something he just had.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, remember when I was looking at the video and

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<v Speaker 1>I asked you, like, is this one of the because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything really about guns full disclosure, is

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<v Speaker 1>this one of those guns that were you could put

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<v Speaker 1>it together yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why I had that thought, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Now knowing his background that he was an engineering student

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<v Speaker 1>and all of those things that certainly holds water, wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>this particular gun tied back to Connecticut as well?

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<v Speaker 4>And he's from Maryland? Is there something Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they connected it to Connecticut, connect connecticure,

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<v Speaker 2>but they said that it's a very the gun that

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<v Speaker 2>they were looking for, this sort of a modernized version

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<v Speaker 2>of a World War II weapon for special operations forces

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<v Speaker 2>and things like that. It would have been very rare

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<v Speaker 2>and it would have been very expensive. Five or six

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars to buy this thing, but it's used currently.

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<v Speaker 2>The current version of it, they said, is often used

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<v Speaker 2>by veterinarians.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, so again.

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<v Speaker 1>Valedictorian of his twenty sixteen graduating class at the Gilman

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<v Speaker 1>School in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 4>It's known for its high tuition.

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<v Speaker 1>He played soccer during high school and talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to study AI with a focus on computer

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<v Speaker 1>science and cognitive science at Penn. There is an interest

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at his online presence in anti capitalist sentiments,

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<v Speaker 1>quotes from various people, some from Ted Kaczinski, the unibomber.

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<v Speaker 1>He engaged in content critical of the healthcare industry, aligning

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<v Speaker 1>with the manifesto they say they found on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the manifesto itself was part of some of the

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<v Speaker 2>questioning as well, and as far as the assistant chief

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<v Speaker 2>was saying, they don't believe that it exists anywhere online

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<v Speaker 2>that as of right now, they only have the handwritten manifesto,

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<v Speaker 2>manifesto finger quotes that they found on his person.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if this is you know, to draw sort

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<v Speaker 2>of the character conclusions that you can about a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who graduates valedictorian like you said, studying engineering and computer

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<v Speaker 2>science or some combination thereof. He's pretty smart, potentially brilliant guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Potentially a preponderance for crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, get into that.

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<v Speaker 2>And again no, at this point, obviously they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>try to figure out if he had any family members

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<v Speaker 2>that were covered by United Healthcare or to see if

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<v Speaker 2>that may have led to the you know, given him

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<v Speaker 2>a motive to go after Brian Thompson. But or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he was just doing it to be altruistic. There is

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<v Speaker 2>no connection. He just thought he would strike out at

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who represented the insurance company.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, now we know that this is someone smart enough

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<v Speaker 1>to do this planet meticulously.

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<v Speaker 2>But still make mistakes along the way, it seemed or

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<v Speaker 2>or was doing these evidence plants. Yeah, because he knew

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<v Speaker 2>that they would be looking. I don't know, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he's definitely started the conversation about healthcare. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>you get now. It's all about online, it's all about oh,

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<v Speaker 1>these are all these lefty Ivy League schools that create killers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not guns, it's education, people.

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