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Speaker 2: Hey thirty fifty five KRCD Talk Station Ryansos fishing Never
Speaker 2: to you a happy Monday and welcome me back to
Speaker 2: the fift about Cassey Morning show author of Burn Back
Speaker 2: Better Lahaina a Perfect Storm or Perfect Crime in the
Speaker 2: follow up books. She was on recently to talk about
Speaker 2: Sound the Alarm, the Malley disaster that sparked a global awakening.
Speaker 2: Stephanie Perucci, welcome back to the fifty five Cars Morning Show.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me back and having
Speaker 4: fortunate circumstances.
Speaker 2: Well, clearly, and you know what I had you in mind.
Speaker 2: Right after these fires started. I said, it's just going
Speaker 2: to be a moment's time when people like Stephanie Perucci
Speaker 2: and others are going to be saying these these these
Speaker 2: these the La Heina fire and these fires that are
Speaker 2: raging in Los Angeles, striking similarities. It's almost as if
Speaker 2: a wilful negligence. I kind of look at and think
Speaker 2: about the Secret Service and all the failures of the
Speaker 2: Secret Service, which allowed a guy to squeeze off around
Speaker 2: and almost killed Donald Trump, and you find out about
Speaker 2: how wax they were across the board, it's almost as
Speaker 2: if they wanted it to happen. Well, you can't deny
Speaker 2: that this gross incomfidence out in Los Angeles obviously exacerbated
Speaker 2: beyond anybody's wildest imagination. The extended damage that was caused
Speaker 2: the policies. They mean they knew that the that the
Speaker 2: reservoir was empty, They knew there was no water pressure.
Speaker 2: They had cut fire budgets, I mean knew someome cut
Speaker 2: the fire budgets by one hundred million dollars months before
Speaker 2: the California fire started. The La Mayor was in Africa
Speaker 2: or something. Everyone seems to be asleep at the wheel
Speaker 2: and lo and behold after warning, after warning after warning,
Speaker 2: after having all kinds of fire projects in the books
Speaker 2: that they knew they had to do. As it turns out,
Speaker 2: there's so much environmental litigation. Every time they tried to
Speaker 2: do one of these fire protection or prevention programs, well
Speaker 2: litigation ensusan they're held up. It's it's as if they
Speaker 2: can get nothing accomplished. To what end do you find
Speaker 2: a nefarious purpose behind all of this? WILF was seemingly
Speaker 2: wilful negligence.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean, the waterways were to protect smelt.
Speaker 4: As you said, they're laying off firefighters, they're cutting the budget,
Speaker 4: and the people were voting on more fire mitigation activities,
Speaker 4: they were voting for more accessible water and LA and
Speaker 4: Southern California failed their voters because they kept taking the
Speaker 4: can on these things that could have helped prevent the fires.
Speaker 4: And we saw the same thing happen in Hawaii where
Speaker 4: there was something simple such as unmitigated brush along the
Speaker 4: highways and up on the hills, which then the wind
Speaker 4: carried down that eventually incinerated Lahina. Simple things like this
Speaker 4: absolutely have to be paid attention to, and when they're not,
Speaker 4: it's it's disastrous.
Speaker 2: Well, and I know the conclusions he reached and sound
Speaker 2: the alarm alae with your co offers. I mean you
Speaker 2: referred to it as a crime, uh, and that the
Speaker 2: the the there were there were reasons why Leahina burned?
Speaker 2: Did they allow this brush to accumulate? And did you
Speaker 2: conclude or has it ever been concluded how that particular
Speaker 2: fire started, because it serves as a convenient springboard even
Speaker 2: if it was a truly a national a natural disaster,
Speaker 2: and even if the failures of government, and lord knows
Speaker 2: we're all used to being failed by our government led
Speaker 2: to the brush being laid around, they have have they
Speaker 2: used that as an opportunity to bring about a change
Speaker 2: they couldn't accomplish otherwise absent this complete devastation, and might
Speaker 2: that happen in Los Angeles? In other words, these you know,
Speaker 2: drivable communities or or walking communities. This whole global warming
Speaker 2: push for us to all live in tiny houses and
Speaker 2: commute by you know, electric bike or ev or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what you'll see right now in Mahina is people
Speaker 4: are not building back. There's you know, a couple homes
Speaker 4: going up. They've put so many restrictions in Mahina with
Speaker 4: regards to the utilities underground and easements and different things
Speaker 4: like that, that it's going to be virtually impossible for
Speaker 4: anyone to build back even fifty percent of the home
Speaker 4: space that they had. And these these were not largely
Speaker 4: sprawling homes. Some of these eighty six percent of what
Speaker 4: burned in Mahina was working class. But what they did
Speaker 4: build was what you might call one of these, I
Speaker 4: don't know, prison camp, smart city type things, way upon
Speaker 4: a hill, not on the beach. And I have been
Speaker 4: exploring these tiny homes and I mean they're there. It's
Speaker 4: essentially a prison cells with so much surveillance, you cannot
Speaker 4: do anything without being viewed by some camera that's that's
Speaker 4: in some corner. And what I am anticipate is that
Speaker 4: something similar is going to happen in California, where, of
Speaker 4: course there was already plans for smart cities. They had
Speaker 4: a really comprehensive Smart LA twenty twenty eight plan, ironically
Speaker 4: the same year that they are going to host the Olympics.
Speaker 4: In terms of did I ever come up with some
Speaker 4: sort of culprit, yeah, I think that there was weather engineering.
Speaker 4: We know there was weather engineering in southern California because
Speaker 4: we have people who document and they had not seen
Speaker 4: a sunny day without cloud seating and stratospheric aerosol injection
Speaker 4: is the term that Dane Weggington prefers to use, probably
Speaker 4: since December November, so there was definitely some manipulation of
Speaker 4: the weather. We think similar to Lehina, we know there
Speaker 4: was arson. We believe there were at least three arson
Speaker 4: points in Mahina as well, and we know people have
Speaker 4: been arrested in California for arson. And then finally, it's
Speaker 4: hard not to wonder if there was some sort of
Speaker 4: energy weapon. It's all speculation, but when you see things
Speaker 4: burning inside out, things burning at extremely high temperatures, you
Speaker 4: have to wonder, well, we've got myriad of patents for
Speaker 4: these energy weapons. Are we using them so that we
Speaker 4: can go in there and buy up this property cheap?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, I am jaded and cynical when it comes to
Speaker 2: the idea that we can actually manipulate the weather. Just
Speaker 2: I've never really caught into that sort of conclusion. But
Speaker 2: be that as it may, we do have clear failures
Speaker 2: here across the border around Los Angeles. And the other
Speaker 2: thing is I wanted you to address Kevin and Newsom
Speaker 2: has signed an executive order the other day. When a pause,
Speaker 2: we'll bring you back. Stephanie Perucci again, author of Sound
Speaker 2: the Alarm as well as Burn Back Better. A couple
Speaker 2: more questions on that to see if maybe there's something
Speaker 2: different going on in La than Lahina. Pause. It's eight
Speaker 2: thirty seven right now. We'll bring it back. Fifty five
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Speaker 2: Not thinking about my author friend Stephanie per Ritchie can
Speaker 2: get her books online, Burned Back Better? And which is
Speaker 2: Lahina the Perfect storm or Perfect Christ a perfect crime?
Speaker 2: And then followed up by Sound the Alarm the Malley
Speaker 2: disaster that's sparked a global awakening. Concerns that you know,
Speaker 2: maybe this is all in part of some intentional effort
Speaker 2: to take away private property and create these new livable communities,
Speaker 2: all in the name of global warming, And Stephanie I
Speaker 2: just wanted to point out it was a point. It
Speaker 2: was noted by an op ed piece by Representative Tom McClintock,
Speaker 2: who's elected official in California that according to a UCLA study,
Speaker 2: so not exactly a bastion of conservative thought there, but
Speaker 2: at UCLA study estimated that California is twenty fires, and
Speaker 2: they've had quite a few big fires over the past
Speaker 2: four or five years. But the twenty twenty fires alone
Speaker 2: released twice as much greenhouse gas into the atmosphere has
Speaker 2: been prevented by the prior eighteen years of primarily government
Speaker 2: and forced restrictions. So we're all spinning our wheels here
Speaker 2: as China belches out more carbon than we capture every
Speaker 2: single day. Well, the fires negate all of our efforts
Speaker 2: on top of it. So the idea of building these
Speaker 2: communities in the name of saving the planet is a nonsensus,
Speaker 2: nonsensical suggestion as well. Be that as it may. One
Speaker 2: of the things Gavin Newsom did do and I think
Speaker 2: it was an appropriate thing to do. He signed an
Speaker 2: executive order suspending regulations that currently make California the most
Speaker 2: difficult place to build anything, notably the California Environmental Quality Act,
Speaker 2: which throws massive hurdles regarding any kind of building from
Speaker 2: the smallest to the largest. You have to do environmental
Speaker 2: studies on the project's potential impact from everything from local
Speaker 2: wildlife to noise, views, and traffic. So he suspends that,
Speaker 2: and he also suspended the other onerous act, the California
Speaker 2: State Coastal Act. So rolling back environmental regulations that would
Speaker 2: subject rebuilding two layers of time consuming bureaucracy was his
Speaker 2: stated goal in mixing these regulations to rebuild Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: So that's a positive sign, isn't it. Or perhaps it
Speaker 2: just sounds good on the surface that they'll still have
Speaker 2: onerous rebuilding rules that will go along with anything that's rebuilt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there was not only the smart LA
Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight, but that LA twenty eight vision all included.
Speaker 4: It was packed with this sustainable development type language. And
Speaker 4: part of the reason that there was this plan to build,
Speaker 4: of course, mind you, in areas where they're where they
Speaker 4: were already cramming people into extremely extensive housing. There is
Speaker 4: this issue of well, we need to have places for athletes,
Speaker 4: We need to maximize our existing sports infrastructure sustainably, we
Speaker 4: need to, you know, to deliver these you know, carbon neutral,
Speaker 4: low carbon footprint type facilities. And one of the maps
Speaker 4: for the twenty eight Olympics includes the Palisades the Pacific.
Speaker 2: Yeah, from this, I've never you know, I never witnessed
Speaker 2: or viewed or even took any interest in knowing where
Speaker 2: Pacific Palisades was or how the living conditions were. But
Speaker 2: judging from the before and after pictures I've seen, I
Speaker 2: don't think there was any place left to build in
Speaker 2: that area. So how would you deal with multi million
Speaker 2: dollar homes as small as they may be. I think
Speaker 2: the average is three and a half million in that area.
Speaker 2: How could you change the the environment and make it
Speaker 2: one of these living communities when all the land's already
Speaker 2: been built on question mark?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a huge problem. I mean, I live
Speaker 4: in Aspen, Colorado. We're surrounded by mountains on every side.
Speaker 4: There is nowhere else to build, so at the property
Speaker 4: prices keep going up. In fact, a little town of Carbondale, Colorado,
Speaker 4: which was like Lehina, very working class, sort of middle
Speaker 4: of the Espen Valley, has had the largest property price
Speaker 4: increases in the last ten years in the entire country.
Speaker 4: So I know that a place like Palisade, which is
Speaker 4: also restricted by certain land and water limitations, there's no
Speaker 4: when there's nowhere else to build, there's nowhere else to build,
Speaker 4: you're going to have to eliminate something and build up,
Speaker 4: you know, high, like a skyscraper or something like that.
Speaker 4: And so these are all some of the things we
Speaker 4: saw with Lehina as well. They were packing all these
Speaker 4: different people in tourism and umbling and casino development and
Speaker 4: hotel development on some of the more important decision making
Speaker 4: bodies and boards and legislative bodies in Hawaii on Maui,
Speaker 4: and they didn't want to keep these sacred old family homes.
Speaker 4: They wanted to build these Las Vegas Disney World type structures.
Speaker 4: It's really curious what were their plans. What did they
Speaker 4: think they were going to do bringing Disney in to
Speaker 4: these boards where there was nowhere else to build. You're
Speaker 4: going to hit an ocean on one side, or you're
Speaker 4: going to hit a mountain on the other side, and
Speaker 4: so that is why we were asking the question, what
Speaker 4: were they thinking? Where did they think they were going
Speaker 4: to build?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: And there were there were, There were working class people,
Speaker 4: not in La Hina, not in Palisades. They weren't working
Speaker 4: class by any means, but they were in the way.
Speaker 2: Well, working class folks can get in the way, and
Speaker 2: so can multi million dollar homes and more expensive land
Speaker 2: when there's no more land and it's the best place
Speaker 2: because the view or the location. That's when prices go up.
Speaker 2: And of course there's nothing you can do about it
Speaker 2: absent a massive natural disaster like we're witnessing going on
Speaker 2: right now in Los Angeles, surrounded by all kinds of
Speaker 2: massive gross negligence, what I'm gonna call willful negligence.
Speaker 1: It's fascinating stuff.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you writing about it in your books
Speaker 2: might encourage my listeners to get a copy of them.
Speaker 2: And I will let you know. Maureen wanted me to
Speaker 2: tell you specifically. She's one of my listeners. After our
Speaker 2: last conversation, she bought both of your books and she said,
Speaker 2: I literally could not put them down, and I've recommended
Speaker 2: them to many of my friends. So you least sold
Speaker 2: a few books last time you're on the morning show,
Speaker 2: and I'll encourage my listeners to check out what you're writing.
Speaker 2: Stephanie Perucci, it's been a real pleasure talking with you.
Speaker 2: If you uncover anything else, you know, you've got a
Speaker 2: vehicle here on the fifty five KREC Morning Show to
Speaker 2: get the word out.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it so much. Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 2: It's been my pleasure. Eight forty seven fifty five care
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Speaker 1: I'll be right back. Fifty five the Talk Station