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<v Speaker 2>Hey thirty fifty five KRCD Talk Station Ryansos fishing Never

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<v Speaker 2>to you a happy Monday and welcome me back to

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<v Speaker 2>the fift about Cassey Morning show author of Burn Back

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<v Speaker 2>Better Lahaina a Perfect Storm or Perfect Crime in the

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<v Speaker 2>follow up books. She was on recently to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Sound the Alarm, the Malley disaster that sparked a global awakening.

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<v Speaker 2>Stephanie Perucci, welcome back to the fifty five Cars Morning Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much for having me back and having

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<v Speaker 4>fortunate circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, clearly, and you know what I had you in mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Right after these fires started. I said, it's just going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a moment's time when people like Stephanie Perucci

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<v Speaker 2>and others are going to be saying these these these

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<v Speaker 2>these the La Heina fire and these fires that are

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<v Speaker 2>raging in Los Angeles, striking similarities. It's almost as if

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<v Speaker 2>a wilful negligence. I kind of look at and think

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<v Speaker 2>about the Secret Service and all the failures of the

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<v Speaker 2>Secret Service, which allowed a guy to squeeze off around

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<v Speaker 2>and almost killed Donald Trump, and you find out about

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<v Speaker 2>how wax they were across the board, it's almost as

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<v Speaker 2>if they wanted it to happen. Well, you can't deny

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<v Speaker 2>that this gross incomfidence out in Los Angeles obviously exacerbated

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<v Speaker 2>beyond anybody's wildest imagination. The extended damage that was caused

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<v Speaker 2>the policies. They mean they knew that the that the

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<v Speaker 2>reservoir was empty, They knew there was no water pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>They had cut fire budgets, I mean knew someome cut

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<v Speaker 2>the fire budgets by one hundred million dollars months before

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<v Speaker 2>the California fire started. The La Mayor was in Africa

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<v Speaker 2>or something. Everyone seems to be asleep at the wheel

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<v Speaker 2>and lo and behold after warning, after warning after warning,

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<v Speaker 2>after having all kinds of fire projects in the books

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<v Speaker 2>that they knew they had to do. As it turns out,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much environmental litigation. Every time they tried to

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<v Speaker 2>do one of these fire protection or prevention programs, well

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<v Speaker 2>litigation ensusan they're held up. It's it's as if they

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<v Speaker 2>can get nothing accomplished. To what end do you find

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<v Speaker 2>a nefarious purpose behind all of this? WILF was seemingly

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<v Speaker 2>wilful negligence.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean, the waterways were to protect smelt.

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<v Speaker 4>As you said, they're laying off firefighters, they're cutting the budget,

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<v Speaker 4>and the people were voting on more fire mitigation activities,

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<v Speaker 4>they were voting for more accessible water and LA and

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<v Speaker 4>Southern California failed their voters because they kept taking the

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<v Speaker 4>can on these things that could have helped prevent the fires.

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<v Speaker 4>And we saw the same thing happen in Hawaii where

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<v Speaker 4>there was something simple such as unmitigated brush along the

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<v Speaker 4>highways and up on the hills, which then the wind

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<v Speaker 4>carried down that eventually incinerated Lahina. Simple things like this

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely have to be paid attention to, and when they're not,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's disastrous.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I know the conclusions he reached and sound

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<v Speaker 2>the alarm alae with your co offers. I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>referred to it as a crime, uh, and that the

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<v Speaker 2>the the there were there were reasons why Leahina burned?

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<v Speaker 2>Did they allow this brush to accumulate? And did you

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<v Speaker 2>conclude or has it ever been concluded how that particular

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<v Speaker 2>fire started, because it serves as a convenient springboard even

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<v Speaker 2>if it was a truly a national a natural disaster,

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<v Speaker 2>and even if the failures of government, and lord knows

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<v Speaker 2>we're all used to being failed by our government led

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<v Speaker 2>to the brush being laid around, they have have they

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<v Speaker 2>used that as an opportunity to bring about a change

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't accomplish otherwise absent this complete devastation, and might

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<v Speaker 2>that happen in Los Angeles? In other words, these you know,

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<v Speaker 2>drivable communities or or walking communities. This whole global warming

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<v Speaker 2>push for us to all live in tiny houses and

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<v Speaker 2>commute by you know, electric bike or ev or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what you'll see right now in Mahina is people

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<v Speaker 4>are not building back. There's you know, a couple homes

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<v Speaker 4>going up. They've put so many restrictions in Mahina with

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<v Speaker 4>like that, that it's going to be virtually impossible for

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<v Speaker 4>anyone to build back even fifty percent of the home

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<v Speaker 4>space that they had. And these these were not largely

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<v Speaker 4>sprawling homes. Some of these eighty six percent of what

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<v Speaker 4>burned in Mahina was working class. But what they did

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<v Speaker 4>build was what you might call one of these, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, prison camp, smart city type things, way upon

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<v Speaker 4>a hill, not on the beach. And I have been

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<v Speaker 4>exploring these tiny homes and I mean they're there. It's

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<v Speaker 4>essentially a prison cells with so much surveillance, you cannot

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<v Speaker 4>in some corner. And what I am anticipate is that

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<v Speaker 4>something similar is going to happen in California, where, of

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<v Speaker 4>course there was already plans for smart cities. They had

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<v Speaker 4>a really comprehensive Smart LA twenty twenty eight plan, ironically

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<v Speaker 4>the same year that they are going to host the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 4>In terms of did I ever come up with some

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<v Speaker 4>sort of culprit, yeah, I think that there was weather engineering.

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<v Speaker 4>We know there was weather engineering in southern California because

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<v Speaker 4>we have people who document and they had not seen

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<v Speaker 4>a sunny day without cloud seating and stratospheric aerosol injection

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<v Speaker 4>is the term that Dane Weggington prefers to use, probably

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<v Speaker 4>since December November, so there was definitely some manipulation of

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<v Speaker 4>the weather. We think similar to Lehina, we know there

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<v Speaker 4>was arson. We believe there were at least three arson

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<v Speaker 4>points in Mahina as well, and we know people have

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<v Speaker 4>been arrested in California for arson. And then finally, it's

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<v Speaker 4>hard not to wonder if there was some sort of

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<v Speaker 4>energy weapon. It's all speculation, but when you see things

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<v Speaker 4>burning inside out, things burning at extremely high temperatures, you

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<v Speaker 4>have to wonder, well, we've got myriad of patents for

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<v Speaker 4>these energy weapons. Are we using them so that we

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<v Speaker 4>can go in there and buy up this property cheap?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I am jaded and cynical when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the idea that we can actually manipulate the weather. Just

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<v Speaker 2>I've never really caught into that sort of conclusion. But

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<v Speaker 2>be that as it may, we do have clear failures

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<v Speaker 2>here across the border around Los Angeles. And the other

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<v Speaker 2>thing is I wanted you to address Kevin and Newsom

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<v Speaker 2>has signed an executive order the other day. When a pause,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll bring you back. Stephanie Perucci again, author of Sound

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<v Speaker 2>the Alarm as well as Burn Back Better. A couple

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<v Speaker 2>more questions on that to see if maybe there's something

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<v Speaker 2>different going on in La than Lahina. Pause. It's eight

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<v Speaker 4>This is fifty five KARC an iHeartRadio station.

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<v Speaker 2>Not thinking about my author friend Stephanie per Ritchie can

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<v Speaker 2>get her books online, Burned Back Better? And which is

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<v Speaker 2>Lahina the Perfect storm or Perfect Christ a perfect crime?

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<v Speaker 2>And then followed up by Sound the Alarm the Malley

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<v Speaker 2>disaster that's sparked a global awakening. Concerns that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe this is all in part of some intentional effort

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<v Speaker 2>to take away private property and create these new livable communities,

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<v Speaker 2>all in the name of global warming, And Stephanie I

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<v Speaker 2>just wanted to point out it was a point. It

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<v Speaker 2>was noted by an op ed piece by Representative Tom McClintock,

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<v Speaker 2>who's elected official in California that according to a UCLA study,

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<v Speaker 2>so not exactly a bastion of conservative thought there, but

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<v Speaker 2>at UCLA study estimated that California is twenty fires, and

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<v Speaker 2>they've had quite a few big fires over the past

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<v Speaker 2>four or five years. But the twenty twenty fires alone

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<v Speaker 2>released twice as much greenhouse gas into the atmosphere has

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<v Speaker 2>been prevented by the prior eighteen years of primarily government

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<v Speaker 2>and forced restrictions. So we're all spinning our wheels here

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<v Speaker 2>as China belches out more carbon than we capture every

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<v Speaker 2>single day. Well, the fires negate all of our efforts

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<v Speaker 2>on top of it. So the idea of building these

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<v Speaker 2>communities in the name of saving the planet is a nonsensus,

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<v Speaker 2>nonsensical suggestion as well. Be that as it may. One

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<v Speaker 2>of the things Gavin Newsom did do and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was an appropriate thing to do. He signed an

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<v Speaker 2>executive order suspending regulations that currently make California the most

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<v Speaker 2>difficult place to build anything, notably the California Environmental Quality Act,

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<v Speaker 2>which throws massive hurdles regarding any kind of building from

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<v Speaker 2>the smallest to the largest. You have to do environmental

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<v Speaker 2>studies on the project's potential impact from everything from local

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<v Speaker 2>wildlife to noise, views, and traffic. So he suspends that,

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<v Speaker 2>and he also suspended the other onerous act, the California

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<v Speaker 2>State Coastal Act. So rolling back environmental regulations that would

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<v Speaker 2>subject rebuilding two layers of time consuming bureaucracy was his

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<v Speaker 2>stated goal in mixing these regulations to rebuild Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a positive sign, isn't it. Or perhaps it

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<v Speaker 2>just sounds good on the surface that they'll still have

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<v Speaker 2>onerous rebuilding rules that will go along with anything that's rebuilt.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, there was not only the smart LA

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty eight, but that LA twenty eight vision all included.

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<v Speaker 4>It was packed with this sustainable development type language. And

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<v Speaker 4>part of the reason that there was this plan to build,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, mind you, in areas where they're where they

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<v Speaker 4>were already cramming people into extremely extensive housing. There is

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<v Speaker 4>this issue of well, we need to have places for athletes,

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<v Speaker 4>We need to maximize our existing sports infrastructure sustainably, we

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<v Speaker 4>need to, you know, to deliver these you know, carbon neutral,

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<v Speaker 4>low carbon footprint type facilities. And one of the maps

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<v Speaker 4>for the twenty eight Olympics includes the Palisades the Pacific.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, from this, I've never you know, I never witnessed

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<v Speaker 2>or viewed or even took any interest in knowing where

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<v Speaker 2>Pacific Palisades was or how the living conditions were. But

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<v Speaker 2>judging from the before and after pictures I've seen, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think there was any place left to build in

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<v Speaker 2>that area. So how would you deal with multi million

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<v Speaker 2>dollar homes as small as they may be. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the average is three and a half million in that area.

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<v Speaker 2>How could you change the the environment and make it

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<v Speaker 2>one of these living communities when all the land's already

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's that's a huge problem. I mean, I live

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<v Speaker 4>in Aspen, Colorado. We're surrounded by mountains on every side.

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<v Speaker 4>There is nowhere else to build, so at the property

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<v Speaker 4>prices keep going up. In fact, a little town of Carbondale, Colorado,

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<v Speaker 4>which was like Lehina, very working class, sort of middle

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<v Speaker 4>of the Espen Valley, has had the largest property price

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<v Speaker 4>increases in the last ten years in the entire country.

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<v Speaker 4>So I know that a place like Palisade, which is

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<v Speaker 4>also restricted by certain land and water limitations, there's no

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<v Speaker 4>when there's nowhere else to build, there's nowhere else to build,

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to have to eliminate something and build up,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, high, like a skyscraper or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>And so these are all some of the things we

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<v Speaker 4>saw with Lehina as well. They were packing all these

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<v Speaker 4>hotel development on some of the more important decision making

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<v Speaker 4>bodies and boards and legislative bodies in Hawaii on Maui,

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<v Speaker 4>and they didn't want to keep these sacred old family homes.

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<v Speaker 4>They wanted to build these Las Vegas Disney World type structures.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really curious what were their plans. What did they

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<v Speaker 4>think they were going to do bringing Disney in to

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<v Speaker 4>these boards where there was nowhere else to build. You're

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<v Speaker 4>going to hit an ocean on one side, or you're

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<v Speaker 4>so that is why we were asking the question, what

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<v Speaker 4>were they thinking? Where did they think they were going

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<v Speaker 4>to build?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>And there were there were, There were working class people,

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<v Speaker 4>not in La Hina, not in Palisades. They weren't working

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<v Speaker 4>class by any means, but they were in the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, working class folks can get in the way, and

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<v Speaker 2>so can multi million dollar homes and more expensive land

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<v Speaker 2>when there's no more land and it's the best place

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<v Speaker 2>because the view or the location. That's when prices go up.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course there's nothing you can do about it

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<v Speaker 2>absent a massive natural disaster like we're witnessing going on

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<v Speaker 2>right now in Los Angeles, surrounded by all kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>massive gross negligence, what I'm gonna call willful negligence.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fascinating stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate you writing about it in your books

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<v Speaker 2>might encourage my listeners to get a copy of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will let you know. Maureen wanted me to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you specifically. She's one of my listeners. After our

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<v Speaker 2>last conversation, she bought both of your books and she said,

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<v Speaker 2>I literally could not put them down, and I've recommended

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<v Speaker 2>them to many of my friends. So you least sold

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<v Speaker 2>a few books last time you're on the morning show,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll encourage my listeners to check out what you're writing.

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<v Speaker 2>Stephanie Perucci, it's been a real pleasure talking with you.

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<v Speaker 2>If you uncover anything else, you know, you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>vehicle here on the fifty five KREC Morning Show to

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<v Speaker 2>get the word out.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate it so much. Thanks for having me back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been my pleasure. Eight forty seven fifty five care

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<v Speaker 2>see the talk station. Don't go away, folks, got a

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<v Speaker 2>few more minutes to cover some stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be right back. Fifty five the Talk Station