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Speaker 1: What is going on Clipper Nation. Welcome to season three,

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episode twenty six, dum Clips and Ip your try weekly

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Ish Clippers podcast. I am Chuck Maker joined. We got

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the full crew tonight. Adam Oslin, William Updyke is here.

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We are going to talk about spoiling Paul George's return

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into it, the back to back weekend the Clippers have upcoming,

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and then a possible renaming of one of our most

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beloved segments that we'll have to get into later. Thank

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you for listening to us. Thank you for watching us.

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If you're watching us on YouTube dot com slash at

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Clippers Podcast, you can listen to us anywhere you get

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your pods. Before we get into all of that, it's

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been a big week in America and in Clippers dumb

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Adam and Will how are you doing on this pitch

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black evening in Los Angeles on November seventh, Well, we'll

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start with you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing I'm doing good. Yeah, hit'll workout after work.

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And then forgot that I was washing all of my towels,

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so that's when where I had got really wet hair.

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It was not my smartest decision.

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Speaker 1: You're in your japan Droid's era with the exactly very much, so,

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very much so. Adam, how are you doing, buddy.

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Speaker 3: I'm good. It's good to tak Clippers with you.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 3: Will came on for the little Clips and Double Dip

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last night after another big victory. Of course, why else,

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what are you coming on?

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Speaker 1: I didn't even answer the text. I was already in bed.

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I knew who was gonna be on the radio. For

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those of you are unfamiliar with the double Dip, it's

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when one of us gets to go on a five

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seventy with Adam post game. It's very fun. It can

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be streamed over on Clippers Talk. Will goes on when

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they win. I go on when they tie or lose.

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Is when I get on. I haven't been on for

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a tie yet, but that would be a pretty fun appearance.

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Let's get into it. The Clippers vanquished George and the Sixers,

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who are in so much trouble. They're so screwed. They

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are like, they're so screwed.

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Speaker 2: He went to the East over, He went to the East.

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Speaker 1: Coast version of the Clippers with meaner press people and

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worse weather.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and MAXI is gonna is gonna make weeks. They're

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saying with that hand string.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Adam, you were in the building. How are the

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wall was phenomenal? Shout out the wall. We talked about, Adam,

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You and I talked about them maybe getting a little crazier.

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They were at full tilt.

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Speaker 2: You could hear it on the broadcast. You could hear

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the booze every time PG came up the court with

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the ball.

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Speaker 1: How to feel in the building, Adam.

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Speaker 3: It was extremely loud, even though the place wasn't completely

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full still, but it was loud. It was noticeable, and

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I think they kind of wopped the line of you know,

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not crossing it but still being appropriately harsh. Was some

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of the signage that was out there.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was respectfully disrespectful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cutting and to the point, very much

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to the point. It was I can't believe the PG

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think before you speak sign And that was because multiple

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people had it. Uh the newspaper, I guess was supposed

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to represent old news, your old news and also just

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be a distraction.

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Speaker 2: Well, I like it went over my head.

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Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough. That was great.

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Speaker 3: Already had to tell me late last night, Paul.

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Speaker 1: George saw the thing before you speak sign. He went

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you can do that. I liked before he finished reading it.

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What I liked in the post game how he said

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he kind of understood why they booed, but also didn't

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understand it, and it was fair. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It was like a perfect things said, like, it's not

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like I left, like I left as a free agent.

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Speaker 1: It's not like I demanded a trade or whatever. So

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that's not the problem.

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Speaker 3: No one's mad that he left.

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Speaker 2: No one's mad that you left. That's not why they

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were booming.

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Speaker 1: A perfect encapsulation of what it's like to have Paul

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George on your basketball team.

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Speaker 3: Miriam Swanson was beating around the bush trying to lead

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him to water with seeing if he saw that sign

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without saying what the sign was, and he just said

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he would. He didn't see any of that stuff, so

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maybe he did.

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Speaker 1: Maybe yes, he was.

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Speaker 3: Like I was watching him when he was on the

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bench and he was staring straight ahead and he wouldn't

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look to his left where the wall was, and he

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had an iPad and he was running over plays and stuff.

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It's possible, but man, there's no way he didn't hear

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some of the stuff they said, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: I also Dallas Rutherford was in the building.

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Speaker 3: He say, by the way, what was the post that

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he deleted? When people were like, wait a second, you're

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really gonna say that as soon as you leave, did

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you say bump ass clippers or something like that.

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Speaker 1: I said, he said bumb ass clippers fans that was

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so week. It was like, dude, just you don't even

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do anything.

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Speaker 3: Why are they booing me? Why would they possibly be

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booing me?

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Speaker 2: You don't even care about you, Dallas runs Fred, just

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move on.

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Speaker 1: King of the Hill side character ass name. By the way,

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I know I'm King of the Hill is probably my

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favorite maybe TV show of all time. I'm worried about

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the return.

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Speaker 3: I'm always like that with the show that I hold

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on to preciously and then it comes back way later,

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like Arrested Development that they kind of ruined it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, like I mean, Brittany Murphy

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can't do like it always sucks rip Like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dumb A number two though pretty great.

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Speaker 1: You talk about a sequel up there with Child's Play

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two in terms of how you should do a sequel,

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all right, on the court, some other things happened, uh,

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Norm Powell, I think justin Rousseau coined this term. He

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said Norm Powell won the first addition by subtraction ball

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against Paul George twenty six points on eighty percent shooting, which.

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Speaker 2: This was somehow a Norm Powell revenge game, which like

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doesn't even necessarily make sense, but that's what it felt like.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point he played. The scoring was phenomenal.

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I'm not saying we're used to the efficiency, but it's

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just yet another you're always right. But he had two

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passes that might have been his best assist or most

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flashy assists as a clipper in this one. He had

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one to Terrence Bin I think one was the Derek

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Jones junior but like, like, well, you're right. He played

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like he got traded unfairly from the seventy six ers.

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Speaker 3: He played like a guy that cares about backing up

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his talk. Unlike love that he said should by subtraction.

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He backed it up. Paul George said, I'm gonna be

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on my bully shit. He didn't back it up. He

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said a lot of other stuff before too. Norman Poull

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is about it, like everything he's doing right now, last

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five games, he's shooting fifty one percent from three. It

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is incredible what he's doing. Like, he's playing like an

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All Star. If he had this number line for the

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rest of the season, he probably should be an All Star.

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I'm not saying that's gonna hold, but he is legitimately

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awesome right now.

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Speaker 1: He's Yeah, and we and the Clippers need every single

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part of it. I mean everyone for the most part

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shot I think there was I'm looking at the stats.

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There's only two guys who shot below in this game,

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which is pretty incredible. It was James Harden and Kevin

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Speaker 3: Ken Porter Junior go one for two, one for four, okay,

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all right.

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Speaker 1: And Jordan Miller went oh for one, but I don't

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really want to count that. The garbage time yet again, Yeah,

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just horrible from.

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Speaker 3: The Clipper hardened yet again. Not a great efficiency game,

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but probably the most important stretch of the game. I

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think it was the last four minutes of the third quarter.

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He scored ten points and it might have been eight

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or nine straight for the Clippers. That was the game.

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That's when they got the big lead and they put

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them away early in the fourth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, twelve of his eighteen in that third quarter six

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times six turnovers, which.

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Speaker 3: There were some sloppy ones late too, once they got

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up big, some really bad turnovers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we were lucky that Philadelphia was turning the

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ball over like they were, and we managed to capitalize

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on it way more. If you look at the points

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out of turnovers between the two teams, it's pretty striking

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how much more.

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Speaker 1: Often we were able to take advantage of that.

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Speaker 3: I think they had twenty seven points off their twenty turnovers,

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which is insane. Like, they were so good at shrinking

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the floor. Their defense was so good for pretty much

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every minute out there. That was really impressive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was. It's funny. It was like

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the most comfortable win of the season so far. Absolutely,

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you know what I mean, Like absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would not make anyone stress.

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Speaker 1: No, Like in the beginning it was kind of tight

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and cagy, but you're right at him. They shrunk the floor. Well,

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it was over in the third.

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Speaker 3: Like we were. They up fourteen heading into the fourth, fourteen

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or sixteen something like that. There was one big run

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in the third just ended him. Paul George, by the way,

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did hit some crazy shots in that game, oh for sure,

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really impressive. The double team from done and Buttom that

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he hit to start off the fourth court was like,

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holy crap, but he only took nine shots? How do

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you only take nine shots? The playoffs only took fifteen

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shots against Dallas. I mean, you gotta go off firing,

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you do?

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Speaker 1: And he did not? He like, I mean, the shot

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making was crazy. He had some fantastic turnovers which I

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don't miss at all.

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Speaker 3: From him, and his timing still off post game. He's

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not He's not right, ye, but a lot of people

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would say, uh no, those those turnovers looked about right

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from what we've seen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what's going to look like when he's right

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very on brand? They shut down Tyree MAXI for the

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most part, who finally got a break. He only had

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to play thirty one minutes in this one. That's ten

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fewer minutes than he's usually playing. He's probably happy a

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little bit.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, did he play it all in

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the fourth? Did the hamstring thing pop up before then?

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Speaker 2: You know, I thought he exited in the fourth, like

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really early.

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Speaker 3: In the day.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he doesn't have anything in the box

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score for the fourth. Oh damn, okay, yeah, so he

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was out. He played He played the whole third. Oh, Okay,

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maybe that's why I was thinking. He heard in the fourth.

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Speaker 3: He was on the court when they opened it up.

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So just like with the Steph Curry leaving that game late,

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it was like they were already up by nine. I'm

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not gonna say that's the reason the Clippers won.

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Speaker 1: Oh no way. Yeah, And he was minus he was

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minus sixteen in that in that third quarter where James

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Harden coincidentally also played the whole third quarter plus sixteen. Wow.

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Speaker 2: They need another guard, which is a problem that Clippers

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cannot relate to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing great. Do you think they'll trade for

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Bones Island because I don't know if Bones is ever

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going to get any time after this weekend, we'll be

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at ten games, so maybe Tylo makes a change. But

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that's been yet another inefficient KPJ game, so people wonder

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if Bones Highland is going to get that shot.

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Speaker 3: The KPJ, though, lineup with Big Zoo and Emir and

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Doneham Batoom plus one in four minutes, Like it was interesting.

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Nobody had a crazy lineup. I think the biggest plus

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was a plus seven and they used like twelve different

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lineups in that game.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: And the plus seven was from the starters. That was

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the biggest plus minus swing.

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Speaker 1: Which is great because the starters have been not in

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Speaker 3: Dam it was good.

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Speaker 2: Generally, you want your starting lineup to be a plus.

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Speaker 1: It's a pretty good indicator of how your team's doing.

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Speaker 3: The third quarter Terrence Man was nice.

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Speaker 1: He scored in the third quarter for the like the

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time he took.

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Speaker 2: He took six shots, which I feel like is like,

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if he's around six to eight, I feel like that's

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pretty decent for what what he's asked to do. You know,

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we obviously, if the shots are there, you want to

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see him take more. But I think if he's in

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that range, that's that that seems pretty reasonable to me

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for where he should be at in terms of just

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aggression within the flow of the game.

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Speaker 3: There was certainly some hope this summer that he could

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double his outpouring of scoring. Was go for men, but

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like like but like realistically man like was he really like?

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Speaker 2: Was he realistically taking over ten field goal attempts in

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the game like average over an entire season?

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Speaker 1: Told me maybe not yet?

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Speaker 3: Twelve points was reasonable average? Twelve points like, that's not crazy.

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Speaker 2: You can do that on six days now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: True.

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Speaker 3: The third though, did look like classic Terronce Man. He

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had a bucket on a layup where he just bullied.

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Norman pal after he went between his lace to between

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two defenders to give it to him. That that man

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spark seemed to be there to start the second half.

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I like seeing that at least, and.

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Speaker 1: They needed it right like we we just mentioned it was.

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It wasn't a tense win, but it was. It's nice

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to make a little more comfortable through through sparks like that.

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you brought up where it's like you kind of need

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some of these outlier performances and that might just be

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like the beginning of the third or something like that.

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Speaker 3: DJ was great last night.

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Speaker 1: Yes, shout out Derek Jones junior.

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Speaker 3: Dunks, four dunks, how many.

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Speaker 1: Dunk and doun had insane dunk.

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Speaker 3: And of the third the baseline done other.

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Speaker 2: Than other than the Wemby dunk, the zoo dunk on Wemby.

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That's like one of my favorites of the season.

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Speaker 1: Down one well, and there was Hard had two half

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court lobs, one to Derek Jones Junior, one to Kai Jones,

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who I think this was. I don't know if it

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was the first time he's played in the second half

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this year, barely played for Kai Jones, but it was

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fifty seconds in the third quarter. But I'm still a

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little worried about Ky, but we'll get to We'll talk

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about that later in the season.

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Speaker 3: I think my favorite was the Derek Jones junior left

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handed dunk baseline off the lob from Norman Powell, who

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I think probably had his best passing game as a Clipper. Absolutely,

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it's been better, and that game was that was something

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like if he get rolled off of that, like I.

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Speaker 2: Mean with the gravity like in the starting lineup, you know,

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like on the bench, like obviously he's like a killer,

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but he's demanding a different type of gravity right now.

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Speaker 1: So I think that that is going.

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Speaker 2: To facilitate his playmaking, even if it is like in

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a more limited scope than you would you know, maybe

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in an ideal situation want but he's going to be

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getting a lot more attention and I think that that

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it both gives him more opportunities and I think just

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makes things a little bit easier.

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Speaker 1: Like I mentioned too, right, like.

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Speaker 3: His last five games, he's shooting fifty one percent from three.

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Who gives a shit at him? He's shooting forty nine

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percent from three overall at eighty Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was like, it's only played eight.

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Speaker 3: How are you going to leave that guy open? And

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he just keeps firing and his confidence is at an

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all time high. When he was talking junk to PG

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and the Sixers bench after knocking down a big three

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in the fourth, it's just Norm is out for blood

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right now, and I love it.

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Speaker 1: You know who else was good? Who was one of

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our picks for Player of the Game, Nikoobatum Nikoopatoom. Not

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a revenge game, which he made very clear in the

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pre game. It was like, I left, it's not a revenge.

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Speaker 3: Game because it's got a nonsense of collect as like

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why would he care?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, seven points, three steals doing that defensive stuff.

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You love to see a mere coffee again, another great game,

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like timely buckets from a mirror. I brought this up

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on the Clippers Pod Twitter. The fact that he makes

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three point six million dollars per year is already insane.

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And the fact now that coupled with the new cap

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Apron stuff, his value is off the charts for the

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Clippers right now.

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Speaker 2: And like this is this is a complete nonsense hypothetical.

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I'm just throwing it out there because obviously Amir is

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already locked up, but this far almost ten games into

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the season. You look at KPJ and you look at

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a mere coffee, Like, what is the most you're offering

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KPJ right now? After a one year proven deal?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I don't know the a mere deal.

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Speaker 2: Well, he KPJ is on a two year right, but

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it's a isn't it a player option on the second year?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 2: I thought it was. I thought it was like one

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in a player and I thought it was two, but

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the second year was a player option. It was like

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kind of a classic prove it.

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Speaker 1: Let me tu see.

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Speaker 3: For some reason, I was thinking it was.

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Speaker 1: Player option two point two this year, two and a

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half next year with a player option and then he's unrestricted. Yeah,

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good call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's at two point two right now. I mean,

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how much over what a mirror makes when you realistically

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get him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, after what we've seen, not that much based

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on this year, a Mere has outplayed him. The usage

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you're getting three point four.

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Speaker 2: You're not getting, you're not getting more than a get

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out of here.

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair, but a wonderful way to get

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a dub into it. Yeah, I don't know. Good luck

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over in Philly, Paul George. It's not shaping up to

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be a successful season.

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Speaker 3: It looks so. I didn't see the hamstring timeline. We're

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talking weeks, that's what That's what I thought.

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Speaker 2: The chance the said, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, that makes sense with a hamstring, that's tough to manage.

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Bat though after the next two games at least, But

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this is.

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Speaker 1: Playing forty one minutes a game like they're needing tyres mats.

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Speaker 3: Someone gave me a stat from I think nineteen seventy

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six or since nineteen seventy eight, teams that start one

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in six only twelve teams ever made the playoffs doing that. Obviously,

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over that time they've expanded how many teams make the playoffs,

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and there's a play in now. But I still think

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there's a good, good chance they could end up being

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a top six seed. And saying out of the play

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in Philly even with this slow start, because like they

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could end up winning seventy percent of their games from

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here on out. But I guess you could say, well,

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he's not playing back to backs, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've kind of put themselves in a hole where

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they're gonna have to push things early on just to

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get back into the race, which could leave guys a

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little bit more tax for later in the season. Like

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I'd be concerned.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess like tough sea for them. The

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Bucks are also have also been garbage to start well.

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Speaker 1: I also like, does it really matter? Like the Celtics.

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I don't watch conference basketball, but from everything I've seen,

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it seems like the Celtics.

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, you ever listen to this postal service album.

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It's called give Up.

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Speaker 1: Yes? All right, On that note, we are going to

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kick it into the Clippers weekend back to back preview,

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which yet again another back to back coming up. If

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you're listening to us on audio, thank you. By the way,

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YouTube dot com Slash at Clippers podcast. We're talking the

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Clippers weekend back to back after these ads coming up

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in three two one.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in to Clips and Dip, your

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favorite basketball podcast about the Clippers. Anyways, we talked about

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the phenomenal win over Philly, the most comfortable win of

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the season for the Clippers, and I'm looking ahead to

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hopefully a couple more comfortable wins as the Clippers have

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a back to back with travel luckily only on the

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West Coast, but they take on the Kings at that

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is that Golden One.

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Speaker 3: Golden One Center, Babe at Golden One?

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, yeah, exactly at Golden One, before returning into

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it to take on the Raptors. Charles, I'm gonna kick

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it to you. What do you think about this? This

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King's game?

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Speaker 1: Is this?

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Speaker 2: Is this a winnable one for the Clips?

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Speaker 1: I think it is winnable. I think both of these

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games are winnable. It's weird situations. I think it's unfair

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that the Clippers have to their old team. I think

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it's unfair they have to travel for the second game

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of back to back to play a very young I mean.

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Speaker 2: Adam, what's the flight Sacramento an hour and a half?

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Speaker 3: I mean commercial, it's probably fifty minutes for them, honestly, yes,

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like it's like an hour ten for the rest of

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us peasants.

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Speaker 2: It's about as long as the drive for their old

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practice facility used to be.

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Speaker 1: Seriously, it is funny these two teams, the Raptors and

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Kings play each other. I think tonight, oh did they

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or like that was their one? That's interesting games.

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Speaker 3: I mean it makes senn As Raptors West Coast swing. Uh, well, no,

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it doesn't look like it looks like Raptors got the

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Oh they lost yesterday to the Kings seven of Sacramento.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's both their last games. It's kind of weird.

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I think the Kings game zoo versa bonus is going

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to be big. Obviously. The Kings are weird though they're

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not taking that many threes.

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Speaker 3: They're twenty first They can't hit shit anymore. All of

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a sudden, that started in the preseason that last game

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against the Clippers. Everybody was talking about how the Kings

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cannot hit a three in the preseason and it's continued.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like they're twenty sixth and three point percentage, twenty

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first and three point attempts. They got Fox, Murray and

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herd Or taking at least six, and they're a combined thirty.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say

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they're hitting fifteen against the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: I mean that those those guys combined for thirty one

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is nuts. Yeah, that's turn around.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, so the average of those threes thirty one.

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Speaker 3: But they're not hitting threes, and uh, they're still five

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and three and.

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Speaker 1: Their fifth in offensive rating. There you go. They're a

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top five offensive team, the top.

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Speaker 2: Ten deep the points, which I think is more surprising.

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Speaker 1: It's a very weird team. I guess. I'm not sure

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what's real with the Kings, and I don't mean that disrespectfully.

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We know they probably won't shoot very well from outside,

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but they gotta be hammering teams in the paint.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking points in the paint. They're twelve, they're

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forty nine. A lot of mid range though, DeMar DeRos

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in effect maybe yeah, yeah, am how are they not

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turning the ball over? Martin Rosen's at fifty three percent

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from the field, so yeah, they're probably doing some damage

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from ten to sixteen feet out Keegan Murray and you

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know Fox loves getting into the float game push shots, So.

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Speaker 1: Zoo's gonna be big in this one. Basically, if they're

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taking a bunch of mid range shots, they're going into

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00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,759
the thing for floaters. Zoo's gonna be a last a

475
00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:27,079
lot to do other than just quote unquote cards.

476
00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:29,039
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that matchup, Adam So?

477
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,559
Speaker 1: But that Sibonis Zoom matchup? Like am I Torn?

478
00:23:33,839 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: People always wonder you're from Sacramento, who you're rooting for? Guys,

479
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:39,759
what do you think?

480
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 2: How do you think Zoo point zero? Now that he's

481
00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:46,079
like he's taken a step, he's taken a leap, how

482
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,599
do you think that that is going to work out?

483
00:23:47,799 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 3: Just Forrizzy, He's he's traditionally been good against Si Bonus,

484
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,759
Like he's dunked on him a couple of times in

485
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,359
embarrassing fashion. For Sabonis, Uh.

486
00:23:57,599 --> 00:23:59,759
Speaker 1: The average is eleven and eight against the Bonus over

487
00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:00,359
his career.

488
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,799
Speaker 3: What's the Bonus getting against him?

489
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,799
Speaker 1: Sabonis is getting seventeen eleven and five and how I

490
00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:08,920
was locking him down?

491
00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 3: What's the minutes distribution between those two?

492
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: Unclear?

493
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: Bonus getting ten more minutes per game.

494
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, goblin, No, that's only their matches. I mean that

495
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,880
is not their man. I don't think that's their matchup minutes.

496
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,480
But I mean that is a good point because before

497
00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:28,119
this year, Zoo was not, yeah, playing a lot of minute.

498
00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 2: Uh That's why I said Zoo point zero.

499
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: I do like the Zoo point.

500
00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: Oh so.

501
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 3: Zoo in those games is at twenty five minutes. Can

502
00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:46,200
I get some bonus here? Sabonis is at thirty one,

503
00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:51,279
so I mean nothing. Six more minutes than a guy

504
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,480
can can make a pretty big difference. But yeah, I

505
00:24:54,519 --> 00:24:57,480
think Zoo Boss will do well. Like he's playing. He

506
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,039
quietly had a really good game too, within just the

507
00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:05,079
flow of the offense last night. But was it forcing

508
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:05,599
a lot.

509
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 1: Like three dimes too?

510
00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: Everybody is passing a double double.

511
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,799
Speaker 1: It's a garbage game, which I like though. I like

512
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,799
that we're kind of getting to that territory where it's like,

513
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:19,920
no double double, damn.

514
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 3: I feel like everybody is passing the last two games

515
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,759
really well out of the short roll and finding someone

516
00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:30,599
for a far side corner three. Like every time they

517
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,799
wait for the double they pass out of it there

518
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,440
and the last two games guys are taking the open

519
00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:38,440
shot much more willingly after coach Leo was preaching that.

520
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,759
And they're three point shooting the last two games. What

521
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,240
is it that like forty six percent combined something like that,

522
00:25:43,519 --> 00:25:45,960
because they shot like fifty one percent against San Antonio

523
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,960
and I think forty last night. So they've been pretty

524
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,119
damn good shooting the basketball. I hope that's not everything

525
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,240
that's just covering up their flaws right now. It's just

526
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:58,960
hot shooting. And we can't really put too much into

527
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,759
the last two games because they're just so hot from

528
00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:01,400
beyond the arc.

529
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: But I think it's you know, no, that's not a

530
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,559
possibility you need to finish.

531
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,279
Speaker 3: It's the title they're getting. They're getting a lot of

532
00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:16,200
good shots right now. You know, they're creating these open looks.

533
00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: Hopefully it'll be tough against I mean this team, like

534
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,240
as of right now, they have a really good defense.

535
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,839
They're top ten ish defense or eleventh in defensive rating.

536
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,480
The Kings are, so it's gonna be weird tomorrow and

537
00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:33,440
dearon are gonna be an issue. Davion Mitchell is someone

538
00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:37,240
who I like a lot, and I.

539
00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:39,319
Speaker 3: Hope or no, he's on the rap he's not there anymore.

540
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:44,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's on the Raptors now. Seamless segue, seamless segue. Yeah.

541
00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:47,400
Do we see them getting the dub against the Kings

542
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,079
before they have to come back against the Raptors.

543
00:26:50,519 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna They're gonna rattle off four straight.

544
00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:55,839
Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm pretty concerned about the Kings game.

545
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am. It's a team that shot profile wise,

546
00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:06,279
could just have a really good offense.

547
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 3: Okay, So the reason their offensive ranking is so high

548
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,440
as their second in two point field goals right now percentage.

549
00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:16,519
They're at fifty nine percent there only behind the Cleveland

550
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:21,680
Cavaliers who haven't lost a damn game yet. They're hitting

551
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:23,519
everything from two, So.

552
00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: We need that. We need an elite Chris Dunn game.

553
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,279
On defense, we need Derek Jones Junior to be locked in.

554
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,440
We kind of need no pun intended, literally all hands

555
00:27:34,519 --> 00:27:37,640
on deck from the defense to make things harder for

556
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,880
the mid range of the Kings. Yeah, and Zoo's going

557
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,440
to be asked if Zoo early foul trouble for Zoo,

558
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,079
And I'm very worried about how this game will go.

559
00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:51,799
Speaker 3: Well, Sabona's did uh get the best of Kai on

560
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,920
a couple possessions in that last preseason game.

561
00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's putting it kindly.

562
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,279
Speaker 3: He does it to a lot of guys, but guy, sure.

563
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: Well Kai. I mean the thing with Kai Man is

564
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,720
like you get the highlight dunk from last night, right,

565
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,000
and you're like, Wow, what a high flyer. That's great,

566
00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:11,440
and then he doesn't box out or he gets bullied

567
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,759
at that. He gets bullied at he's just backing up

568
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:17,160
the whole time. And then they guy like it's he's

569
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,039
got some work to do, and I hope we don't

570
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:21,599
have to see him for more than nine minutes or

571
00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:23,880
whatever he's he might be averaging less than that.

572
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: They're small ball. The last two games has been very solid. Yes, yes, absolutely,

573
00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:33,359
House said post game he kind of alluded to the

574
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,319
fact that we're going to be using that lineup more.

575
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,039
Is how I interpreted something he said with a small

576
00:28:39,079 --> 00:28:43,680
ball with Nico, So that's interesting. I feel okay about it.

577
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,839
When Nico Batoomb's out there, Yeah.

578
00:28:46,519 --> 00:28:48,799
Speaker 1: The Kings, right, you make some bonus, like have to

579
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,559
work and move around a little bit on defense. Yeah,

580
00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:53,799
I mean small ball five or small ball with Nico

581
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:55,960
out there. Put any other four people out there. I

582
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,519
don't care, Nico hold it down. Yeah.

583
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,119
Speaker 2: Also, hopefully, like the Clippers, improved rebounding can stay. The

584
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,599
Clippers are holding on to a top ten spot. Kings

585
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,680
are just outside the bottom ten. They're nineteenth right now.

586
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're kind of we're trepidacious about the game

587
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:18,559
against the Kings. How do I feel about this game

588
00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:23,440
against the Raptors. Cuz thirtieth in defensive rating, they're two

589
00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:28,119
and seven. Well, you mentioned the rebounds. They are an

590
00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:33,240
elite offensive rebounding team. They're fourth and offensive rebounds per game,

591
00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:35,920
and they're first an offensive rebound percentage.

592
00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:38,319
Speaker 3: Part of that though, like they missed a ton of

593
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:40,160
shots and so there's a lot offense rebounds.

594
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:42,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's part of it. Though.

595
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: The other thing is if you're just one of the

596
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,880
few teams that actually emphasizes offensive rebounding, I wonder just

597
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,200
how much that has it, because so many teams now

598
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,319
they're like, you know, like there's not as much of

599
00:29:54,319 --> 00:29:58,640
an emphasis it's rushback to go ahead and defend. It's

600
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,039
not you know, like it's not as highly prioritize and

601
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,480
make these other aspects of the game.

602
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the Raptors take the second most field goal

603
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,240
attempts and their ninth and field goal percentage, so they're

604
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:12,039
not playing in shots off the back, you know what

605
00:30:12,079 --> 00:30:13,920
I mean? Like, I think Will, you are right. It's

606
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,799
a very fast team. This team is built to just run,

607
00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:20,839
and we've seen it where they'll run against the Clippers

608
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,839
and it's kind of a game, but then their defense

609
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,440
just decides to just kind of stop playing. I think

610
00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:29,119
every game we've played them, we've had a run of

611
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,440
like fifteen points, like and it's kind of like, oh right,

612
00:30:32,759 --> 00:30:36,759
this is what a young maybe not as not maybe

613
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:39,000
not as disciplined on the defensive side of the ball

614
00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:40,400
team can give up.

615
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 3: I think I see what one of their issues is.

616
00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:46,960
They're right next to the Clippers when it comes to turnovers.

617
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,799
They're at sixteen point eight. Clippers are at seventeen point one.

618
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,400
But the Clippers got away with it because they turned

619
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,839
you over so often, like yeah, last game.

620
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: And they're not a good defensive rebounding team, so they're

621
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,559
they're the complete opposite defensive rebounding. They're twenty seventh and

622
00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:09,880
defensive rebounds per game and thirtieth in defensive rebound percentage,

623
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,400
So they're maybe Will maybe they're instituting what you just

624
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,839
said where it's like, who cares about the defensive rebounds?

625
00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: Just grab armists, just grab ar let them, let them

626
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,359
finish out in the possession. We'll do We'll get it back.

627
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,759
Speaker 1: We'll get it back on the right back.

628
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,079
Speaker 3: That's probably why. Yeah, they're so bad defensively, they can't

629
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:28,240
close that a damn possession.

630
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Which big game per Zoo gotta go against Yaka pertl.

631
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,839
This could be a bit. This could be a double

632
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,680
double game per Zoo for sure, they would, depending what

633
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:40,400
Harden looks like legs wise, after they play the Kings.

634
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,359
Maybe it's a funnel at to Zoo game. I like that.

635
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be good for them, all right. I just

636
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:51,279
want to get the split. And then you're five and

637
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,359
five after ten games. And I said if they were

638
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,039
five and five, I would sign up for that after

639
00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:57,799
the first ten games, So I will not complain two

640
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,720
back to backs on the first No, I'll be slipping

641
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:01,519
out about Portland.

642
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:02,279
Speaker 1: Still, did you say you.

643
00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:04,039
Speaker 2: Shave your head if they weren't five and five after

644
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:04,640
ten games?

645
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: Shave everything?

646
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: Man? I mean, yeah, five and five after having three

647
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:16,519
back to backs in the first ten games with the

648
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,759
roster that's still kind of figuring each other out. I would, yeah,

649
00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:20,640
I would sign up for that.

650
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: And how many bad teams would they have faced? Three

651
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,519
of the seven? You could say if you actualto San Antonio,

652
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,400
I guess. I guess seventy six ers qualify as a

653
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,200
bad team right now.

654
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: Twenty six ers qualified for sure, like maybe more so

655
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,559
than this, I mean not even maybe more so than

656
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:37,119
the Spurs.

657
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:40,039
Speaker 3: Hey, Nuggets just gave okayc though their first loss, and

658
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,359
Russell Westbrook has gone off last two games. Actually, maybe

659
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,759
they should start him probably, Like that's one guy that

660
00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:49,000
can go forty eight minutes.

661
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: I think I think that'd be best if they want

662
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,400
to end that. Yeah, I think that would be good.

663
00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: Could all could twenty nine other teams actually start Russell Westbrook?

664
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,759
Could he just kind of ship around? He's got the

665
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,920
energy to do it. I don't know what it says

666
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,799
in the rules.

667
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: I think he can go further than twenty nine other teams.

668
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,319
I think you can take it overseas. There's teams you

669
00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:08,759
can start.

670
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna rename that Xavier Moon MVP in Canada after

671
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:17,599
Russ after he gets up there, shout out Xavier Moon r. J.

672
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,000
Barrett's having a pretty crazy season. He's averaging like twenty

673
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:23,559
six points a game, but he's gonna have to get

674
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:28,160
put into the torture chamber against the Clippers. I'm excited

675
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,960
about this Raptors matchup strictly because it's gonna test the

676
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:36,559
legs a lot. It's a fast team. They're ninth in pace, Like,

677
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,079
what are where are the Clippers at in pace? Yeah?

678
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:45,599
They might they actually just I'm just curious because it feels.

679
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: Like twenty fifth now somewhere in there, let me find it,

680
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,720
not the twenty sixth.

681
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: Wow, and they dropped oh twenty eight on Basketball Reference.

682
00:33:58,759 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: Oh yikes.

683
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm on NBA dot Com. Which one is more accurate?

684
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,480
I guess we've never figured that out.

685
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: I think NBA dot Com up because hours after games.

686
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's betting stuff, all right. And again, I'm pretty

687
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,840
sure the staff for Basketball Reference is still like fifteen

688
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:23,639
people in the church basement doing Yeah, it's gonna be uh,

689
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:27,639
I don't know. Hard weird back to back, just kind

690
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:30,760
of a week like stylistically, it's two very weird teams

691
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,719
to go against one after that. Yeah, Uh.

692
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:41,639
Speaker 3: The Sacramento game, worries me, but I think they can

693
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,119
get the split. I think they can get the split

694
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,079
five and five start. We're okay, tread and water without Kauhi.

695
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,039
What more do you want?

696
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and no update on Kauhi. We were told he

697
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,480
wasn't going to play this week. He's still not playing

698
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:57,880
this week. So that's where we're at with that.

699
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: We are nearing December, though, Keep asking, though, I will

700
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,920
say people have stopped asking, which I think people are

701
00:35:05,039 --> 00:35:07,000
just like, fine, this is where we are.

702
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: Like they asked, you know what, when you win, they

703
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:14,199
don't ask so much about it? Would they lose? Like

704
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,480
wid squid coming back? What's going on?

705
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: I think that's a great Adam. Why aren't you asking

706
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,760
him in person? Every time you see him?

707
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:27,039
Speaker 1: Hey, Kawi? When you back, he would just look at you,

708
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:29,239
or not even at you, he would just look above

709
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,199
you and then just continue walking.

710
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: It seemed like he was in a great mood last night, though.

711
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,280
I don't know if it was just a win or

712
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,119
if it was Paul George being back.

713
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:39,599
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but the vibes were immaculate. That

714
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,840
kal two hoodie he was wearing was sick. It had

715
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,119
like a new Balance logo. I don't think i'd seen

716
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,960
for him. That's pretty cool. Yeah, this is gonna be wonky.

717
00:35:51,679 --> 00:35:56,199
It's gonna be weird. I'm if they lose to the Kings,

718
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,480
I'm worried about. Hey, maybe they just come out and

719
00:35:58,519 --> 00:35:59,280
smack the shit.

720
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:03,679
Speaker 3: Out of the Raptors, because if you stop the Raptors,

721
00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:07,280
if you slow down their offense, generate some of those

722
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,679
turnovers which they are willing to give up, and the

723
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,679
Clippers can get some easy ones against a bad defense.

724
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,440
Get out and run a little bit against them for

725
00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:17,719
some cherry picking buckets. Like they'll be in decent shape.

726
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: Derek Jones need the legs. We might need the legs

727
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,960
against the Raptors. Gonna be the young guys.

728
00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 3: Derek Jones gets beat up every game and stays in

729
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,840
the game game.

730
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:34,639
Speaker 1: Norm hasn't taken a direct shoulder or elbow to the

731
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,480
face recently, which is good. I hope that streak continues.

732
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,440
What's he shooting since he started bleeding so much that

733
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:44,400
one game? What game was that?

734
00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 3: It was Halloween? It was a game against Phoenix.

735
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:53,639
Speaker 1: Damn months ago. At this point, anything else about these

736
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:57,119
matches before we get into the player of the game picks.

737
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: Uh James Harden is so due for a big game.

738
00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:08,639
If I want to talk about game fishing game, if

739
00:37:08,639 --> 00:37:11,519
you want to talk about stealing one against Sacramento, that

740
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,000
could be the way. That's going to be a tough

741
00:37:14,039 --> 00:37:17,039
place to play. And they're playing well even without knocking

742
00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:20,440
down threes. What if James Harden finally has just you know,

743
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,480
five for eight night from Beyond the Arc something like that.

744
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,039
Speaker 1: I would love that. That would be fantastic.

745
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:27,639
Speaker 3: Overdue?

746
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, does anyone else overdue for a good game? On

747
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:32,079
the clips?

748
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: Scoring was a man you could stay still Terrence Man

749
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:41,960
for like a party fourteen. It's not like, yeah, man

750
00:37:42,039 --> 00:37:45,199
doesn't have times where he gets fourteen fifteen, sixteen points

751
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,719
every couple of weeks, like, and we haven't gotten it yet.

752
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:50,800
I like that.

753
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, big twelve six and four for Terrence Man against

754
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,519
Sacramento would be great.

755
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: KPJ twenty five.

756
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,639
Speaker 1: You never know. I mean, hey, he puts the shots up.

757
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,039
He puts up enough shots to maybe get there, which

758
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:07,199
is I don't know if respectable is the word I

759
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,760
should use, but it is something that does happen. All right,

760
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,320
coming up, we're gonna be giving our Player of the

761
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,800
Game picks. Then I think that's that's about wrapping it up.

762
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,679
It's midweek, a lot of basketball happening, so if you're

763
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,559
listening on audio, is gonna be a quick break. And

764
00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:23,159
then our Player of the Game picks coming up in

765
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,760
three two one.

766
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 3: Welcome back in it's clips and dip. I'm out of Maslin.

767
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,400
This is season three, episode twenty six. We got Chuck Makler,

768
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:35,800
Will Updike, the entire crew here for you, and another

769
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,159
back to back the third of the season already for you,

770
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,599
Los Angeles Clippers. They will play sixteen or have sixteen

771
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,559
instances of a back to back sack Town, then back

772
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:50,679
home against Toronto on Saturday. So player of the game

773
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,480
and not just any player of the game, the Kawhi, Leonard,

774
00:38:53,519 --> 00:38:56,639
James Harden, Norman Palla beats Zubots Player of the Game

775
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:02,400
picks will would he give us one? Yeah, I'm gonna

776
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,320
go this for both games, right.

777
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,639
Speaker 1: Yes, they have to play good over both games for

778
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:07,679
this account. Yeah.

779
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,639
Speaker 2: Seen as its back to back, I'm going to go

780
00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:13,800
djj oh like that.

781
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: I like, I think they'll leave him. Yeah, I think

782
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:19,039
I think it's.

783
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: Pretty easy to see a pathway for him having a

784
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,639
great game against the Raptors. I'm just hoping that he

785
00:39:23,679 --> 00:39:26,280
can bring some of the defensive intensity and energy in

786
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,519
that Kings game. I don't think he'll necessarily be a

787
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:33,599
standout offensively, but I think that a solid performance from

788
00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:35,960
him in that first game and then sort of, you

789
00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:37,800
know him, him kind of going off a little bit

790
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,599
more against the Raptors to take some of the burden

791
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:42,840
off the older guys who are undoubtedly going to have

792
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,039
to play heavy minutes in that Sacramento game. I think

793
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:47,440
I think that's the path for DJJ.

794
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: Helping shrink the floor in that second game while running

795
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,199
the floor in the first one. That would be awesome,

796
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,119
big check. I almost was gonna say James Harden and

797
00:39:57,199 --> 00:39:59,320
I know we can't, but he hasn't beneficient.

798
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: He's almost become available to pick again.

799
00:40:03,039 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: It's almost become available to these games to be taken

800
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,079
off off the title card for this. For this pick,

801
00:40:11,639 --> 00:40:13,840
I picked Nico last game. I don't know if Nico's

802
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,440
gonna have two good games in a row. I think

803
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,039
we'll have one. I think he'll shine in one of

804
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:21,400
the games. I was gonna pick George don't Junior. Full disclosure,

805
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:23,920
this is an easy one and I think Adam's gonna

806
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,480
be pissed off. I'm saying it, Chris Dunn. There's a

807
00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:29,519
guy who's gonna be good in back to back games.

808
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,280
Great pick. It's gonna be welcome to the dungeon. He's

809
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,760
a bunch of people's Adam, like you said last time,

810
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,280
favorite Clipper. As soon as he got on the floor,

811
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,320
he shows what he can do. He's clippers favorite clipper.

812
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:47,159
He might be. I'm going Chris Dunn, and I feel

813
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,639
pretty confident about it. And I can see in Adam's

814
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:52,840
face the fury that I that I picked Christ.

815
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 3: I mean, like Paul George said, is stupid.

816
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: Like Paul George said, I fail for clipbait.

817
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 3: I will go with then, I will go with U

818
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,239
God a.

819
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,119
Speaker 1: Lot after the two that we've already said were kind

820
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:18,199
of just gonna rotate between the Yeah, guys.

821
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: I feel like I've taken Terrence Man a lot. Uh.

822
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,559
I'll go with the mere coffee. A mere coffee? How

823
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:25,920
about that?

824
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: Keeping them keeping the run up? Take that for data.

825
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,400
Great picks by all of us. They'll probably all three

826
00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:38,679
have great two games, and the Clippers will be seven

827
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,559
and five going into going into the weekend. One thing

828
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:45,679
I wanted to talk about before we wrap up, and

829
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,880
it's left over from last season. We beat the seventy

830
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,159
six or so bad that Jordan Miller and Bones Highland

831
00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:54,920
got time, which is great for the people who really

832
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,039
want them to get time. They don't look good in

833
00:41:58,119 --> 00:42:00,920
this time the garbage. I'm not I don't mean to

834
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,840
be disrespectful. They did not look good. Bones doesn't seem

835
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,400
to take it seriously. Jordan Miller, you're not wrong. I mean,

836
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:13,800
like I can't say that you're wrong Jordan Miller. Someone

837
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,199
pointed out it seems like he can't really dribble with

838
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,480
his right when he gets pressured or something like that.

839
00:42:19,559 --> 00:42:21,159
I don't know if I fully buy into that, but

840
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:28,719
like they're not showing anything in the limited, very limited.

841
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,719
I love Jordan Miller. I think he should get some time,

842
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:37,360
but he hasn't exactly shown that yet.

843
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:42,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the problem is, even if he does in

844
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,840
garbage time, people are just gonna say whatever, it's garbage time.

845
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,559
So it's kind of a situation. I guess he tried

846
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:54,639
a three pointer. He got ripped again on a turnover.

847
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,159
To go to your point about having troubles with his handle,

848
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,840
I think he got ripped against Okay as well, and

849
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,559
it's not like they were going up against the starters

850
00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:06,599
or anything like that. I think a lot of this

851
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,960
does stem from Bones Island, and I think he has

852
00:43:10,039 --> 00:43:12,199
to be better. And I'm not trying to bring attention

853
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,039
to something that I'm not even sure if it happened

854
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,039
or not. I'm just kind of wondering if anybody else

855
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:19,199
saw it. But it seemed like Coach Lou was screaming

856
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,920
something at Bones Highland and I don't know if he

857
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:25,760
hit the ignore button or he did receive the message,

858
00:43:26,199 --> 00:43:29,480
but I couldn't tell if he was like listening when

859
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:32,840
Coach Lou was trying to coach him up, and I

860
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,119
don't yeah, I don't know. There was a moment there

861
00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:38,239
where I was wondering, is he tuning him out with

862
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,440
taking the ball up right now when Coach Lou was

863
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,480
trying to give him some direction. I honestly don't know.

864
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,920
I'm wondering if anybody else knew get into the comment section.

865
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,599
There just seemed to be some bad body language and

866
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:51,760
you know, a lot of isoball and he did get

867
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,239
a jumper to go after nobody else touched the ball

868
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,440
in the possession. Cool, but he had a really bad

869
00:43:57,559 --> 00:43:59,719
pass wrap around behind the back pass that went out

870
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,320
a back elms uh and then along too. It was

871
00:44:03,559 --> 00:44:06,199
just the play was not very inspiring and it was

872
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,039
not very serious.

873
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just I guess I hope that next

874
00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:15,159
time we see him in garbage time it is inspiring

875
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,119
because he's not doesn't see to be helping his case

876
00:44:18,199 --> 00:44:22,599
to take KPJ's spot. No, not the KPJ has lit

877
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:26,239
it up. But he rebounds, he cuts well, which he

878
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,719
did last night for his one bucket.

879
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: Bones did this last season too, so this isn't something new.

880
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,679
So we're already watching and seeing if it's happening again,

881
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,679
and there's a close eye on him, and it is.

882
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,440
It's just, man, he's too young. I understand there's frustration

883
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,239
because he had the backup job and he was playing

884
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,360
really well the first four games of last season, but

885
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:56,559
he does a year ago. You can't defeat yourself and

886
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,559
not giving one hundred percent effort no matter what time

887
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:03,159
those men it's are coming. Being at this age, it's

888
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,840
a bad look if that's what it is.

889
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 2: He's too good to look like that is a thing,

890
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,280
Like he's too talented against the garbage Time lineup, like

891
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,480
he should be shitting on people and like helping his

892
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:15,840
teammates shit on people, like you know what I mean, Like,

893
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,679
it's just it's nonsense. And I get that it's I

894
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,239
get that it's not the biggest opportunity, but I mean,

895
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,679
take advantage of pop for pop for two minutes. Like

896
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,840
and I'm not saying that you're gonna automatic like you're

897
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,119
you're gonna be there, You're gonna.

898
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: Be the bad guy.

899
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: But isn't that a better path forward than looking like

900
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,480
shit in those two minutes.

901
00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly. The fans like bones and they're

902
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,800
waiting for something to get excited about, even in those minutes,

903
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,079
because they're young guys with potential, and if they did

904
00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:46,840
do something exciting, like Kobe Brown had that layup right

905
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,480
away that was kind of a tough shot on the

906
00:45:48,639 --> 00:45:55,039
right block. By the way, Yeah, uh, come on your

907
00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:58,800
showing tape. Regardless, coaches watch everything, they don't go over

908
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,719
it and say, oh, I'm not gonna watch the garbage time.

909
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,440
Minutes later on, they're a value ready everything.

910
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah you're telling me, then Gundhy's not watching the garbage time.

911
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, due fine tooth comb show out.

912
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: Please please next time, maybe it'll happen against the Raptors.

913
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,079
But like, you gotta put good tape up. It doesn't

914
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:19,159
matter if you stay after practice and work on whatever,

915
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,800
if you're in the game and you're not doing what

916
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:22,880
you're supposed to be doing.

917
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:25,599
Speaker 3: Because I'm pretty sure at the end of the season,

918
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,519
when they compile it all and are going over it,

919
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,760
they're seeing a bunch of garbage time minutes that may

920
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,559
add up to like thirty minutes of total tape. It

921
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,079
happened to all be during garbage time, and if you

922
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:40,760
played that poorly, they're seeing a bunch of trash tape. Yeah,

923
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,039
thirty minutes on you that all happened during garbage time,

924
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:46,480
and they're not going to care about that it was

925
00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:49,199
inconsequential minutes. That's not how it's going to look.

926
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,159
Speaker 1: You're minus sixteen garbage time super cut Like that doesn't

927
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,519
doesn't feel good, No, figure it out.

928
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: But it's early. It's early, but it just some warning

929
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,880
signs that we saw last season seemed to this season.

930
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: It's discouraging because it feels like more of the same.

931
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,719
You've got a guy who's like, I mean la like

932
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,519
at the time was only twenty three years old. He's

933
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:13,360
already getting shipped home by the team. Like, come on, like,

934
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:16,239
get it together, do you? I mean, like, I know

935
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,400
it's not your ideal position, but like do you want

936
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,880
to be here? Do you want to be in this

937
00:47:20,039 --> 00:47:20,519
league or not?

938
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: Because this is what it is? Some nice and you

939
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,320
know who does want to be in this league. Who's

940
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,440
having a little moment right now? Brandon Boston Junior.

941
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Speaker 3: Hey, I remember a couple of weeks ago, I was like,

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would anyone be surprised if Brandon Boston Junior popped this season?

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Like that was my argument for playing Jordan Miller. It's like,

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you can't find out about these guys if they don't

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ever get real minutes, if they don't ever play out there,

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which I know kind of goes against Bones Island, but hey,

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he's actually played real minutes and played really well in them.

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Just take the other one serious too. You can't act

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like it's beneath you. You're too young of a player

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for that. Huh.

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Speaker 1: We helped at the garbage time minutes in the good

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way are better this week against the Kings and Raptors.

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We're gonna maybe do a postgame live on Friday. Whole

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crew should be at the game on Saturday, which should

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be a good time. If you see us, come say

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What's up? Double Dip on AM five to seventy for

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the games and probably an episode on Sunday for y'all.

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Will Where can these people beg their family members to

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00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:24,880
listen to this podcast so they can finally relate to

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them a Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't be like Bones Island. Don't be too proud

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to beg. Beg your family members to go ahead and

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listen to this podcast. Wherever they get their podcasts. If

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00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,119
they don't know where to find them, tell them check

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00:48:35,199 --> 00:48:38,960
download Spotify, download the Apple podcast app. We're there you can.

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They could leave a little rating and review that help

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us out. They lead comments over on every episode on Spotify,

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or you can tell them to watch us over on

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00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:47,880
YouTube dot com.

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Speaker 1: Slash at Clippers podcast.

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Speaker 2: Still the best way to enjoy this podcast in my

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opinion one man's opinion. But however you enjoy this podcast,

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we appreciate you for listening.

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Speaker 1: He is but one man. William Updyke adam one positive

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thing to send these Clippers fans out on this frigid

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Thursday evening with.

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Speaker 3: You know while the Clippers don't have Paul George, the

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guy that is in the starting lineup that is somewhat

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replacing and supplementing the scoring loss without pg Uh, he's

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going for it. He wants this and he's taking advantage

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of it right now with Norman Powell. And it is

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easy to root for a guy that is looking for

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a shot all the time, that is being aggressive, and

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that is living up to walk on the walk and

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talking the talk from everything he said this past offseason,

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so so far, eight games in Norman Powell, congratulations, you're

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kicking everybody's ass and proving why you should have been

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the starting lineup before.

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Speaker 1: We love it it is, it was additioned by subtraction.

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We will be back for y'all fairly soon. Here's some

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dubs and as always, let's go clips.