Speaker 1: What is going on Clipper Nation. Welcome to season three,
episode twenty six, dum Clips and Ip your try weekly
Ish Clippers podcast. I am Chuck Maker joined. We got
the full crew tonight. Adam Oslin, William Updyke is here.
We are going to talk about spoiling Paul George's return
into it, the back to back weekend the Clippers have upcoming,
and then a possible renaming of one of our most
beloved segments that we'll have to get into later. Thank
you for listening to us. Thank you for watching us.
If you're watching us on YouTube dot com slash at
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your pods. Before we get into all of that, it's
been a big week in America and in Clippers dumb
Adam and Will how are you doing on this pitch
black evening in Los Angeles on November seventh, Well, we'll
start with you.
Speaker 2: I'm doing I'm doing good. Yeah, hit'll workout after work.
And then forgot that I was washing all of my towels,
so that's when where I had got really wet hair.
It was not my smartest decision.
Speaker 1: You're in your japan Droid's era with the exactly very much, so,
very much so. Adam, how are you doing, buddy.
Speaker 3: I'm good. It's good to tak Clippers with you.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 3: Will came on for the little Clips and Double Dip
last night after another big victory. Of course, why else,
what are you coming on?
Speaker 1: I didn't even answer the text. I was already in bed.
I knew who was gonna be on the radio. For
those of you are unfamiliar with the double Dip, it's
when one of us gets to go on a five
seventy with Adam post game. It's very fun. It can
be streamed over on Clippers Talk. Will goes on when
they win. I go on when they tie or lose.
Is when I get on. I haven't been on for
a tie yet, but that would be a pretty fun appearance.
Let's get into it. The Clippers vanquished George and the Sixers,
who are in so much trouble. They're so screwed. They
are like, they're so screwed.
Speaker 2: He went to the East over, He went to the East.
Speaker 1: Coast version of the Clippers with meaner press people and
worse weather.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and MAXI is gonna is gonna make weeks. They're
saying with that hand string.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Adam, you were in the building. How are the
wall was phenomenal? Shout out the wall. We talked about, Adam,
You and I talked about them maybe getting a little crazier.
They were at full tilt.
Speaker 2: You could hear it on the broadcast. You could hear
the booze every time PG came up the court with
the ball.
Speaker 1: How to feel in the building, Adam.
Speaker 3: It was extremely loud, even though the place wasn't completely
full still, but it was loud. It was noticeable, and
I think they kind of wopped the line of you know,
not crossing it but still being appropriately harsh. Was some
of the signage that was out there.
Speaker 2: I thought it was respectfully disrespectful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cutting and to the point, very much
to the point. It was I can't believe the PG
think before you speak sign And that was because multiple
people had it. Uh the newspaper, I guess was supposed
to represent old news, your old news and also just
be a distraction.
Speaker 2: Well, I like it went over my head.
Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough. That was great.
Speaker 3: Already had to tell me late last night, Paul.
Speaker 1: George saw the thing before you speak sign. He went
you can do that. I liked before he finished reading it.
What I liked in the post game how he said
he kind of understood why they booed, but also didn't
understand it, and it was fair. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was like a perfect things said, like, it's not
like I left, like I left as a free agent.
Speaker 1: It's not like I demanded a trade or whatever. So
that's not the problem.
Speaker 3: No one's mad that he left.
Speaker 2: No one's mad that you left. That's not why they
were booming.
Speaker 1: A perfect encapsulation of what it's like to have Paul
George on your basketball team.
Speaker 3: Miriam Swanson was beating around the bush trying to lead
him to water with seeing if he saw that sign
without saying what the sign was, and he just said
he would. He didn't see any of that stuff, so
maybe he did.
Speaker 1: Maybe yes, he was.
Speaker 3: Like I was watching him when he was on the
bench and he was staring straight ahead and he wouldn't
look to his left where the wall was, and he
had an iPad and he was running over plays and stuff.
It's possible, but man, there's no way he didn't hear
some of the stuff they said, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: I also Dallas Rutherford was in the building.
Speaker 3: He say, by the way, what was the post that
he deleted? When people were like, wait a second, you're
really gonna say that as soon as you leave, did
you say bump ass clippers or something like that.
Speaker 1: I said, he said bumb ass clippers fans that was
so week. It was like, dude, just you don't even
do anything.
Speaker 3: Why are they booing me? Why would they possibly be
booing me?
Speaker 2: You don't even care about you, Dallas runs Fred, just
move on.
Speaker 1: King of the Hill side character ass name. By the way,
I know I'm King of the Hill is probably my
favorite maybe TV show of all time. I'm worried about
the return.
Speaker 3: I'm always like that with the show that I hold
on to preciously and then it comes back way later,
like Arrested Development that they kind of ruined it.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, like I mean, Brittany Murphy
can't do like it always sucks rip Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dumb A number two though pretty great.
Speaker 1: You talk about a sequel up there with Child's Play
two in terms of how you should do a sequel,
all right, on the court, some other things happened, uh,
Norm Powell, I think justin Rousseau coined this term. He
said Norm Powell won the first addition by subtraction ball
against Paul George twenty six points on eighty percent shooting, which.
Speaker 2: This was somehow a Norm Powell revenge game, which like
doesn't even necessarily make sense, but that's what it felt like.
Speaker 1: That's a great point he played. The scoring was phenomenal.
I'm not saying we're used to the efficiency, but it's
just yet another you're always right. But he had two
passes that might have been his best assist or most
flashy assists as a clipper in this one. He had
one to Terrence Bin I think one was the Derek
Jones junior but like, like, well, you're right. He played
like he got traded unfairly from the seventy six ers.
Speaker 3: He played like a guy that cares about backing up
his talk. Unlike love that he said should by subtraction.
He backed it up. Paul George said, I'm gonna be
on my bully shit. He didn't back it up. He
said a lot of other stuff before too. Norman Poull
is about it, like everything he's doing right now, last
five games, he's shooting fifty one percent from three. It
is incredible what he's doing. Like, he's playing like an
All Star. If he had this number line for the
rest of the season, he probably should be an All Star.
I'm not saying that's gonna hold, but he is legitimately
awesome right now.
Speaker 1: He's Yeah, and we and the Clippers need every single
part of it. I mean everyone for the most part
shot I think there was I'm looking at the stats.
There's only two guys who shot below in this game,
which is pretty incredible. It was James Harden and Kevin
Porter Junior.
Speaker 3: Ken Porter Junior go one for two, one for four, okay,
all right.
Speaker 1: And Jordan Miller went oh for one, but I don't
really want to count that. The garbage time yet again, Yeah,
just horrible from.
Speaker 3: The Clipper hardened yet again. Not a great efficiency game,
but probably the most important stretch of the game. I
think it was the last four minutes of the third quarter.
He scored ten points and it might have been eight
or nine straight for the Clippers. That was the game.
That's when they got the big lead and they put
them away early in the fourth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, twelve of his eighteen in that third quarter six
times six turnovers, which.
Speaker 3: There were some sloppy ones late too, once they got
up big, some really bad turnovers.
Speaker 2: I mean, we were lucky that Philadelphia was turning the
ball over like they were, and we managed to capitalize
on it way more. If you look at the points
out of turnovers between the two teams, it's pretty striking
how much more.
Speaker 1: Often we were able to take advantage of that.
Speaker 3: I think they had twenty seven points off their twenty turnovers,
which is insane. Like, they were so good at shrinking
the floor. Their defense was so good for pretty much
every minute out there. That was really impressive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was. It's funny. It was like
the most comfortable win of the season so far. Absolutely,
you know what I mean, Like absolutely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would not make anyone stress.
Speaker 1: No, Like in the beginning it was kind of tight
and cagy, but you're right at him. They shrunk the floor. Well,
it was over in the third.
Speaker 3: Like we were. They up fourteen heading into the fourth, fourteen
or sixteen something like that. There was one big run
in the third just ended him. Paul George, by the way,
did hit some crazy shots in that game, oh for sure,
really impressive. The double team from done and Buttom that
he hit to start off the fourth court was like,
holy crap, but he only took nine shots? How do
you only take nine shots? The playoffs only took fifteen
shots against Dallas. I mean, you gotta go off firing,
you do?
Speaker 1: And he did not? He like, I mean, the shot
making was crazy. He had some fantastic turnovers which I
don't miss at all.
Speaker 3: From him, and his timing still off post game. He's
not He's not right, ye, but a lot of people
would say, uh no, those those turnovers looked about right
from what we've seen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what's going to look like when he's right
very on brand? They shut down Tyree MAXI for the
most part, who finally got a break. He only had
to play thirty one minutes in this one. That's ten
fewer minutes than he's usually playing. He's probably happy a
little bit.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, did he play it all in
the fourth? Did the hamstring thing pop up before then?
Speaker 2: You know, I thought he exited in the fourth, like
really early.
Speaker 3: In the day.
Speaker 1: I don't think he doesn't have anything in the box
score for the fourth. Oh damn, okay, yeah, so he
was out. He played He played the whole third. Oh, Okay,
maybe that's why I was thinking. He heard in the fourth.
Speaker 3: He was on the court when they opened it up.
So just like with the Steph Curry leaving that game late,
it was like they were already up by nine. I'm
not gonna say that's the reason the Clippers won.
Speaker 1: Oh no way. Yeah, And he was minus he was
minus sixteen in that in that third quarter where James
Harden coincidentally also played the whole third quarter plus sixteen. Wow.
Speaker 2: They need another guard, which is a problem that Clippers
cannot relate to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing great. Do you think they'll trade for
Bones Island because I don't know if Bones is ever
going to get any time after this weekend, we'll be
at ten games, so maybe Tylo makes a change. But
that's been yet another inefficient KPJ game, so people wonder
if Bones Highland is going to get that shot.
Speaker 3: The KPJ, though, lineup with Big Zoo and Emir and
Doneham Batoom plus one in four minutes, Like it was interesting.
Nobody had a crazy lineup. I think the biggest plus
was a plus seven and they used like twelve different
lineups in that game.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: And the plus seven was from the starters. That was
the biggest plus minus swing.
Speaker 1: Which is great because the starters have been not in
the plus. So it's nice for the starting lineup.
Speaker 3: Dam it was good.
Speaker 2: Generally, you want your starting lineup to be a plus.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty good indicator of how your team's doing.
Speaker 3: The third quarter Terrence Man was nice.
Speaker 1: He scored in the third quarter for the like the
time he took.
Speaker 2: He took six shots, which I feel like is like,
if he's around six to eight, I feel like that's
pretty decent for what what he's asked to do. You know,
we obviously, if the shots are there, you want to
see him take more. But I think if he's in
that range, that's that that seems pretty reasonable to me
for where he should be at in terms of just
aggression within the flow of the game.
Speaker 3: There was certainly some hope this summer that he could
double his outpouring of scoring. Was go for men, but
like like but like realistically man like was he really like?
Speaker 2: Was he realistically taking over ten field goal attempts in
the game like average over an entire season?
Speaker 1: Told me maybe not yet?
Speaker 3: Twelve points was reasonable average? Twelve points like, that's not crazy.
Speaker 2: You can do that on six days now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 3: The third though, did look like classic Terronce Man. He
had a bucket on a layup where he just bullied.
I forget who it might have been. Max in the right.
He had that three pointer off the crazy pass from
Norman pal after he went between his lace to between
two defenders to give it to him. That that man
spark seemed to be there to start the second half.
I like seeing that at least, and.
Speaker 1: They needed it right like we we just mentioned it was.
It wasn't a tense win, but it was. It's nice
to make a little more comfortable through through sparks like that.
And I think that goes to that point that will
you brought up where it's like you kind of need
some of these outlier performances and that might just be
like the beginning of the third or something like that.
Speaker 3: DJ was great last night.
Speaker 1: Yes, shout out Derek Jones junior.
Speaker 3: Dunks, four dunks, how many.
Speaker 1: Dunk and doun had insane dunk.
Speaker 3: And of the third the baseline done other.
Speaker 2: Than other than the Wemby dunk, the zoo dunk on Wemby.
That's like one of my favorites of the season.
Speaker 1: Down one well, and there was Hard had two half
court lobs, one to Derek Jones Junior, one to Kai Jones,
who I think this was. I don't know if it
was the first time he's played in the second half
this year, barely played for Kai Jones, but it was
fifty seconds in the third quarter. But I'm still a
little worried about Ky, but we'll get to We'll talk
about that later in the season.
Speaker 3: I think my favorite was the Derek Jones junior left
handed dunk baseline off the lob from Norman Powell, who
I think probably had his best passing game as a Clipper. Absolutely,
For as much as we talk about his lack of playmaking,
it's been better, and that game was that was something
like if he get rolled off of that, like I.
Speaker 2: Mean with the gravity like in the starting lineup, you know,
like on the bench, like obviously he's like a killer,
but he's demanding a different type of gravity right now.
Speaker 1: So I think that that is going.
Speaker 2: To facilitate his playmaking, even if it is like in
a more limited scope than you would you know, maybe
in an ideal situation want but he's going to be
getting a lot more attention and I think that that
it both gives him more opportunities and I think just
makes things a little bit easier.
Speaker 1: Like I mentioned too, right, like.
Speaker 3: His last five games, he's shooting fifty one percent from three.
Who gives a shit at him? He's shooting forty nine
percent from three overall at eighty Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, it's only played eight.
Speaker 3: How are you going to leave that guy open? And
he just keeps firing and his confidence is at an
all time high. When he was talking junk to PG
and the Sixers bench after knocking down a big three
in the fourth, it's just Norm is out for blood
right now, and I love it.
Speaker 1: You know who else was good? Who was one of
our picks for Player of the Game, Nikoobatum Nikoopatoom. Not
a revenge game, which he made very clear in the
pre game. It was like, I left, it's not a revenge.
Speaker 3: Game because it's got a nonsense of collect as like
why would he care?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, seven points, three steals doing that defensive stuff.
You love to see a mere coffee again, another great game,
like timely buckets from a mirror. I brought this up
on the Clippers Pod Twitter. The fact that he makes
three point six million dollars per year is already insane.
And the fact now that coupled with the new cap
Apron stuff, his value is off the charts for the
Clippers right now.
Speaker 2: And like this is this is a complete nonsense hypothetical.
I'm just throwing it out there because obviously Amir is
already locked up, but this far almost ten games into
the season. You look at KPJ and you look at
a mere coffee, Like, what is the most you're offering
KPJ right now? After a one year proven deal?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I don't know the a mere deal.
Speaker 2: Well, he KPJ is on a two year right, but
it's a isn't it a player option on the second year?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 2: I thought it was. I thought it was like one
in a player and I thought it was two, but
the second year was a player option. It was like
kind of a classic prove it.
Speaker 1: Let me tu see.
Speaker 3: For some reason, I was thinking it was.
Speaker 1: Player option two point two this year, two and a
half next year with a player option and then he's unrestricted. Yeah,
good call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's at two point two right now. I mean,
how much over what a mirror makes when you realistically
get him.
Speaker 1: I mean, after what we've seen, not that much based
on this year, a Mere has outplayed him. The usage
you're getting three point four.
Speaker 2: You're not getting, you're not getting more than a get
out of here.
Speaker 1: I think that's fair, but a wonderful way to get
a dub into it. Yeah, I don't know. Good luck
over in Philly, Paul George. It's not shaping up to
be a successful season.
Speaker 3: It looks so. I didn't see the hamstring timeline. We're
talking weeks, that's what That's what I thought.
Speaker 2: The chance the said, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, that makes sense with a hamstring, that's tough to manage.
Bat though after the next two games at least, But
this is.
Speaker 1: Playing forty one minutes a game like they're needing tyres mats.
Speaker 3: Someone gave me a stat from I think nineteen seventy
six or since nineteen seventy eight, teams that start one
in six only twelve teams ever made the playoffs doing that. Obviously,
over that time they've expanded how many teams make the playoffs,
and there's a play in now. But I still think
there's a good, good chance they could end up being
a top six seed. And saying out of the play
in Philly even with this slow start, because like they
could end up winning seventy percent of their games from
here on out. But I guess you could say, well,
he's not playing back to backs, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've kind of put themselves in a hole where
they're gonna have to push things early on just to
get back into the race, which could leave guys a
little bit more tax for later in the season. Like
I'd be concerned.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess like tough sea for them. The
Bucks are also have also been garbage to start well.
Speaker 1: I also like, does it really matter? Like the Celtics.
I don't watch conference basketball, but from everything I've seen,
it seems like the Celtics.
Speaker 3: Hey, guys, you ever listen to this postal service album.
It's called give Up.
Speaker 1: Yes? All right, On that note, we are going to
kick it into the Clippers weekend back to back preview,
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in to Clips and Dip, your
favorite basketball podcast about the Clippers. Anyways, we talked about
the phenomenal win over Philly, the most comfortable win of
the season for the Clippers, and I'm looking ahead to
hopefully a couple more comfortable wins as the Clippers have
a back to back with travel luckily only on the
West Coast, but they take on the Kings at that
is that Golden One.
Speaker 3: Golden One Center, Babe at Golden One?
Speaker 2: Okay, right, yeah, exactly at Golden One, before returning into
it to take on the Raptors. Charles, I'm gonna kick
it to you. What do you think about this? This
King's game?
Speaker 1: Is this?
Speaker 2: Is this a winnable one for the Clips?
Speaker 1: I think it is winnable. I think both of these
games are winnable. It's weird situations. I think it's unfair
that the Clippers have to their old team. I think
it's unfair they have to travel for the second game
of back to back to play a very young I mean.
Speaker 2: Adam, what's the flight Sacramento an hour and a half?
Speaker 3: I mean commercial, it's probably fifty minutes for them, honestly, yes,
like it's like an hour ten for the rest of
us peasants.
Speaker 2: It's about as long as the drive for their old
practice facility used to be.
Speaker 1: Seriously, it is funny these two teams, the Raptors and
Kings play each other. I think tonight, oh did they
or like that was their one? That's interesting games.
Speaker 3: I mean it makes senn As Raptors West Coast swing. Uh, well, no,
it doesn't look like it looks like Raptors got the
Oh they lost yesterday to the Kings seven of Sacramento.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's both their last games. It's kind of weird.
I think the Kings game zoo versa bonus is going
to be big. Obviously. The Kings are weird though they're
not taking that many threes.
Speaker 3: They're twenty first They can't hit shit anymore. All of
a sudden, that started in the preseason that last game
against the Clippers. Everybody was talking about how the Kings
cannot hit a three in the preseason and it's continued.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they're twenty sixth and three point percentage, twenty
first and three point attempts. They got Fox, Murray and
herd Or taking at least six, and they're a combined thirty.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say
they're hitting fifteen against the Clippers.
Speaker 2: I mean that those those guys combined for thirty one
is nuts. Yeah, that's turn around.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so the average of those threes thirty one.
Speaker 3: But they're not hitting threes, and uh, they're still five
and three and.
Speaker 1: Their fifth in offensive rating. There you go. They're a
top five offensive team, the top.
Speaker 2: Ten deep the points, which I think is more surprising.
Speaker 1: It's a very weird team. I guess. I'm not sure
what's real with the Kings, and I don't mean that disrespectfully.
We know they probably won't shoot very well from outside,
but they gotta be hammering teams in the paint.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking points in the paint. They're twelve, they're
forty nine. A lot of mid range though, DeMar DeRos
in effect maybe yeah, yeah, am how are they not
turning the ball over? Martin Rosen's at fifty three percent
from the field, so yeah, they're probably doing some damage
from ten to sixteen feet out Keegan Murray and you
know Fox loves getting into the float game push shots, So.
Speaker 1: Zoo's gonna be big in this one. Basically, if they're
taking a bunch of mid range shots, they're going into
the thing for floaters. Zoo's gonna be a last a
lot to do other than just quote unquote cards.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that matchup, Adam So?
Speaker 1: But that Sibonis Zoom matchup? Like am I Torn?
Speaker 3: People always wonder you're from Sacramento, who you're rooting for? Guys,
what do you think?
Speaker 2: How do you think Zoo point zero? Now that he's
like he's taken a step, he's taken a leap, how
do you think that that is going to work out?
Speaker 3: Just Forrizzy, He's he's traditionally been good against Si Bonus,
Like he's dunked on him a couple of times in
embarrassing fashion. For Sabonis, Uh.
Speaker 1: The average is eleven and eight against the Bonus over
his career.
Speaker 3: What's the Bonus getting against him?
Speaker 1: Sabonis is getting seventeen eleven and five and how I
was locking him down?
Speaker 3: What's the minutes distribution between those two?
Speaker 1: Unclear?
Speaker 3: Bonus getting ten more minutes per game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, goblin, No, that's only their matches. I mean that
is not their man. I don't think that's their matchup minutes.
But I mean that is a good point because before
this year, Zoo was not, yeah, playing a lot of minute.
Speaker 2: Uh That's why I said Zoo point zero.
Speaker 3: I do like the Zoo point.
Speaker 1: Oh so.
Speaker 3: Zoo in those games is at twenty five minutes. Can
I get some bonus here? Sabonis is at thirty one,
so I mean nothing. Six more minutes than a guy
can can make a pretty big difference. But yeah, I
think Zoo Boss will do well. Like he's playing. He
quietly had a really good game too, within just the
flow of the offense last night. But was it forcing
a lot.
Speaker 1: Like three dimes too?
Speaker 3: Everybody is passing a double double.
Speaker 1: It's a garbage game, which I like though. I like
that we're kind of getting to that territory where it's like,
no double double, damn.
Speaker 3: I feel like everybody is passing the last two games
really well out of the short roll and finding someone
for a far side corner three. Like every time they
wait for the double they pass out of it there
and the last two games guys are taking the open
shot much more willingly after coach Leo was preaching that.
And they're three point shooting the last two games. What
is it that like forty six percent combined something like that,
because they shot like fifty one percent against San Antonio
and I think forty last night. So they've been pretty
damn good shooting the basketball. I hope that's not everything
that's just covering up their flaws right now. It's just
hot shooting. And we can't really put too much into
the last two games because they're just so hot from
beyond the arc.
Speaker 1: But I think it's you know, no, that's not a
possibility you need to finish.
Speaker 3: It's the title they're getting. They're getting a lot of
good shots right now. You know, they're creating these open looks.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it'll be tough against I mean this team, like
as of right now, they have a really good defense.
They're top ten ish defense or eleventh in defensive rating.
The Kings are, so it's gonna be weird tomorrow and
dearon are gonna be an issue. Davion Mitchell is someone
who I like a lot, and I.
Speaker 3: Hope or no, he's on the rap he's not there anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's on the Raptors now. Seamless segue, seamless segue. Yeah.
Do we see them getting the dub against the Kings
before they have to come back against the Raptors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna They're gonna rattle off four straight.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm pretty concerned about the Kings game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am. It's a team that shot profile wise,
could just have a really good offense.
Speaker 3: Okay, So the reason their offensive ranking is so high
as their second in two point field goals right now percentage.
They're at fifty nine percent there only behind the Cleveland
Cavaliers who haven't lost a damn game yet. They're hitting
everything from two, So.
Speaker 1: We need that. We need an elite Chris Dunn game.
On defense, we need Derek Jones Junior to be locked in.
We kind of need no pun intended, literally all hands
on deck from the defense to make things harder for
the mid range of the Kings. Yeah, and Zoo's going
to be asked if Zoo early foul trouble for Zoo,
And I'm very worried about how this game will go.
Speaker 3: Well, Sabona's did uh get the best of Kai on
a couple possessions in that last preseason game.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's putting it kindly.
Speaker 3: He does it to a lot of guys, but guy, sure.
Speaker 1: Well Kai. I mean the thing with Kai Man is
like you get the highlight dunk from last night, right,
and you're like, Wow, what a high flyer. That's great,
and then he doesn't box out or he gets bullied
at that. He gets bullied at he's just backing up
the whole time. And then they guy like it's he's
got some work to do, and I hope we don't
have to see him for more than nine minutes or
whatever he's he might be averaging less than that.
Speaker 3: They're small ball. The last two games has been very solid. Yes, yes, absolutely,
House said post game he kind of alluded to the
fact that we're going to be using that lineup more.
Is how I interpreted something he said with a small
ball with Nico, So that's interesting. I feel okay about it.
When Nico Batoomb's out there, Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Kings, right, you make some bonus, like have to
work and move around a little bit on defense. Yeah,
I mean small ball five or small ball with Nico
out there. Put any other four people out there. I
don't care, Nico hold it down. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also, hopefully, like the Clippers, improved rebounding can stay. The
Clippers are holding on to a top ten spot. Kings
are just outside the bottom ten. They're nineteenth right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're kind of we're trepidacious about the game
against the Kings. How do I feel about this game
against the Raptors. Cuz thirtieth in defensive rating, they're two
and seven. Well, you mentioned the rebounds. They are an
elite offensive rebounding team. They're fourth and offensive rebounds per game,
and they're first an offensive rebound percentage.
Speaker 3: Part of that though, like they missed a ton of
shots and so there's a lot offense rebounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's part of it. Though.
Speaker 2: The other thing is if you're just one of the
few teams that actually emphasizes offensive rebounding, I wonder just
how much that has it, because so many teams now
they're like, you know, like there's not as much of
an emphasis it's rushback to go ahead and defend. It's
not you know, like it's not as highly prioritize and
make these other aspects of the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Raptors take the second most field goal
attempts and their ninth and field goal percentage, so they're
not playing in shots off the back, you know what
I mean? Like, I think Will, you are right. It's
a very fast team. This team is built to just run,
and we've seen it where they'll run against the Clippers
and it's kind of a game, but then their defense
just decides to just kind of stop playing. I think
every game we've played them, we've had a run of
like fifteen points, like and it's kind of like, oh right,
this is what a young maybe not as not maybe
not as disciplined on the defensive side of the ball
team can give up.
Speaker 3: I think I see what one of their issues is.
They're right next to the Clippers when it comes to turnovers.
They're at sixteen point eight. Clippers are at seventeen point one.
But the Clippers got away with it because they turned
you over so often, like yeah, last game.
Speaker 1: And they're not a good defensive rebounding team, so they're
they're the complete opposite defensive rebounding. They're twenty seventh and
defensive rebounds per game and thirtieth in defensive rebound percentage,
So they're maybe Will maybe they're instituting what you just
said where it's like, who cares about the defensive rebounds?
Speaker 2: Just grab armists, just grab ar let them, let them
finish out in the possession. We'll do We'll get it back.
Speaker 1: We'll get it back on the right back.
Speaker 3: That's probably why. Yeah, they're so bad defensively, they can't
close that a damn possession.
Speaker 1: Which big game per Zoo gotta go against Yaka pertl.
This could be a bit. This could be a double
double game per Zoo for sure, they would, depending what
Harden looks like legs wise, after they play the Kings.
Maybe it's a funnel at to Zoo game. I like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be good for them, all right. I just
want to get the split. And then you're five and
five after ten games. And I said if they were
five and five, I would sign up for that after
the first ten games, So I will not complain two
back to backs on the first No, I'll be slipping
out about Portland.
Speaker 1: Still, did you say you.
Speaker 2: Shave your head if they weren't five and five after
ten games?
Speaker 3: Shave everything?
Speaker 1: Man? I mean, yeah, five and five after having three
back to backs in the first ten games with the
roster that's still kind of figuring each other out. I would, yeah,
I would sign up for that.
Speaker 3: And how many bad teams would they have faced? Three
of the seven? You could say if you actualto San Antonio,
I guess. I guess seventy six ers qualify as a
bad team right now.
Speaker 2: Twenty six ers qualified for sure, like maybe more so
than this, I mean not even maybe more so than
the Spurs.
Speaker 3: Hey, Nuggets just gave okayc though their first loss, and
Russell Westbrook has gone off last two games. Actually, maybe
they should start him probably, Like that's one guy that
can go forty eight minutes.
Speaker 1: I think I think that'd be best if they want
to end that. Yeah, I think that would be good.
Speaker 2: Could all could twenty nine other teams actually start Russell Westbrook?
Could he just kind of ship around? He's got the
energy to do it. I don't know what it says
in the rules.
Speaker 3: I think he can go further than twenty nine other teams.
I think you can take it overseas. There's teams you
can start.
Speaker 1: They're gonna rename that Xavier Moon MVP in Canada after
Russ after he gets up there, shout out Xavier Moon r. J.
Barrett's having a pretty crazy season. He's averaging like twenty
six points a game, but he's gonna have to get
put into the torture chamber against the Clippers. I'm excited
about this Raptors matchup strictly because it's gonna test the
legs a lot. It's a fast team. They're ninth in pace, Like,
what are where are the Clippers at in pace? Yeah?
They might they actually just I'm just curious because it feels.
Speaker 3: Like twenty fifth now somewhere in there, let me find it,
not the twenty sixth.
Speaker 1: Wow, and they dropped oh twenty eight on Basketball Reference.
Speaker 2: Oh yikes.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm on NBA dot Com. Which one is more accurate?
I guess we've never figured that out.
Speaker 3: I think NBA dot Com up because hours after games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's betting stuff, all right. And again, I'm pretty
sure the staff for Basketball Reference is still like fifteen
people in the church basement doing Yeah, it's gonna be uh,
I don't know. Hard weird back to back, just kind
of a week like stylistically, it's two very weird teams
to go against one after that. Yeah, Uh.
Speaker 3: The Sacramento game, worries me, but I think they can
get the split. I think they can get the split
five and five start. We're okay, tread and water without Kauhi.
What more do you want?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and no update on Kauhi. We were told he
wasn't going to play this week. He's still not playing
this week. So that's where we're at with that.
Speaker 2: We are nearing December, though, Keep asking, though, I will
say people have stopped asking, which I think people are
just like, fine, this is where we are.
Speaker 3: Like they asked, you know what, when you win, they
don't ask so much about it? Would they lose? Like
wid squid coming back? What's going on?
Speaker 2: I think that's a great Adam. Why aren't you asking
him in person? Every time you see him?
Speaker 1: Hey, Kawi? When you back, he would just look at you,
or not even at you, he would just look above
you and then just continue walking.
Speaker 2: It seemed like he was in a great mood last night, though.
I don't know if it was just a win or
if it was Paul George being back.
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but the vibes were immaculate. That
kal two hoodie he was wearing was sick. It had
like a new Balance logo. I don't think i'd seen
for him. That's pretty cool. Yeah, this is gonna be wonky.
It's gonna be weird. I'm if they lose to the Kings,
I'm worried about. Hey, maybe they just come out and
smack the shit.
Speaker 3: Out of the Raptors, because if you stop the Raptors,
if you slow down their offense, generate some of those
turnovers which they are willing to give up, and the
Clippers can get some easy ones against a bad defense.
Get out and run a little bit against them for
some cherry picking buckets. Like they'll be in decent shape.
Speaker 1: Derek Jones need the legs. We might need the legs
against the Raptors. Gonna be the young guys.
Speaker 3: Derek Jones gets beat up every game and stays in
the game game.
Speaker 1: Norm hasn't taken a direct shoulder or elbow to the
face recently, which is good. I hope that streak continues.
What's he shooting since he started bleeding so much that
one game? What game was that?
Speaker 3: It was Halloween? It was a game against Phoenix.
Speaker 1: Damn months ago. At this point, anything else about these
matches before we get into the player of the game picks.
Speaker 3: Uh James Harden is so due for a big game.
If I want to talk about game fishing game, if
you want to talk about stealing one against Sacramento, that
could be the way. That's going to be a tough
place to play. And they're playing well even without knocking
down threes. What if James Harden finally has just you know,
five for eight night from Beyond the Arc something like that.
Speaker 1: I would love that. That would be fantastic.
Speaker 3: Overdue?
Speaker 1: Yeah, does anyone else overdue for a good game? On
the clips?
Speaker 3: Scoring was a man you could stay still Terrence Man
for like a party fourteen. It's not like, yeah, man
doesn't have times where he gets fourteen fifteen, sixteen points
every couple of weeks, like, and we haven't gotten it yet.
I like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, big twelve six and four for Terrence Man against
Sacramento would be great.
Speaker 3: KPJ twenty five.
Speaker 1: You never know. I mean, hey, he puts the shots up.
He puts up enough shots to maybe get there, which
is I don't know if respectable is the word I
should use, but it is something that does happen. All right,
coming up, we're gonna be giving our Player of the
Game picks. Then I think that's that's about wrapping it up.
It's midweek, a lot of basketball happening, so if you're
listening on audio, is gonna be a quick break. And
then our Player of the Game picks coming up in
three two one.
Speaker 3: Welcome back in it's clips and dip. I'm out of Maslin.
This is season three, episode twenty six. We got Chuck Makler,
Will Updike, the entire crew here for you, and another
back to back the third of the season already for you,
Los Angeles Clippers. They will play sixteen or have sixteen
instances of a back to back sack Town, then back
home against Toronto on Saturday. So player of the game
and not just any player of the game, the Kawhi, Leonard,
James Harden, Norman Palla beats Zubots Player of the Game
picks will would he give us one? Yeah, I'm gonna
go this for both games, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, they have to play good over both games for
this account. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Seen as its back to back, I'm going to go
djj oh like that.
Speaker 1: I like, I think they'll leave him. Yeah, I think
I think it's.
Speaker 2: Pretty easy to see a pathway for him having a
great game against the Raptors. I'm just hoping that he
can bring some of the defensive intensity and energy in
that Kings game. I don't think he'll necessarily be a
standout offensively, but I think that a solid performance from
him in that first game and then sort of, you
know him, him kind of going off a little bit
more against the Raptors to take some of the burden
off the older guys who are undoubtedly going to have
to play heavy minutes in that Sacramento game. I think
I think that's the path for DJJ.
Speaker 1: Helping shrink the floor in that second game while running
the floor in the first one. That would be awesome,
big check. I almost was gonna say James Harden and
I know we can't, but he hasn't beneficient.
Speaker 3: He's almost become available to pick again.
Speaker 1: It's almost become available to these games to be taken
off off the title card for this. For this pick,
I picked Nico last game. I don't know if Nico's
gonna have two good games in a row. I think
we'll have one. I think he'll shine in one of
the games. I was gonna pick George don't Junior. Full disclosure,
this is an easy one and I think Adam's gonna
be pissed off. I'm saying it, Chris Dunn. There's a
guy who's gonna be good in back to back games.
Great pick. It's gonna be welcome to the dungeon. He's
a bunch of people's Adam, like you said last time,
favorite Clipper. As soon as he got on the floor,
he shows what he can do. He's clippers favorite clipper.
He might be. I'm going Chris Dunn, and I feel
pretty confident about it. And I can see in Adam's
face the fury that I that I picked Christ.
Speaker 3: I mean, like Paul George said, is stupid.
Speaker 1: Like Paul George said, I fail for clipbait.
Speaker 3: I will go with then, I will go with U
God a.
Speaker 1: Lot after the two that we've already said were kind
of just gonna rotate between the Yeah, guys.
Speaker 3: I feel like I've taken Terrence Man a lot. Uh.
I'll go with the mere coffee. A mere coffee? How
about that?
Speaker 1: Keeping them keeping the run up? Take that for data.
Great picks by all of us. They'll probably all three
have great two games, and the Clippers will be seven
and five going into going into the weekend. One thing
I wanted to talk about before we wrap up, and
it's left over from last season. We beat the seventy
six or so bad that Jordan Miller and Bones Highland
got time, which is great for the people who really
want them to get time. They don't look good in
this time the garbage. I'm not I don't mean to
be disrespectful. They did not look good. Bones doesn't seem
to take it seriously. Jordan Miller, you're not wrong. I mean,
like I can't say that you're wrong Jordan Miller. Someone
pointed out it seems like he can't really dribble with
his right when he gets pressured or something like that.
I don't know if I fully buy into that, but
like they're not showing anything in the limited, very limited.
I love Jordan Miller. I think he should get some time,
but he hasn't exactly shown that yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the problem is, even if he does in
garbage time, people are just gonna say whatever, it's garbage time.
So it's kind of a situation. I guess he tried
a three pointer. He got ripped again on a turnover.
To go to your point about having troubles with his handle,
I think he got ripped against Okay as well, and
it's not like they were going up against the starters
or anything like that. I think a lot of this
does stem from Bones Island, and I think he has
to be better. And I'm not trying to bring attention
to something that I'm not even sure if it happened
or not. I'm just kind of wondering if anybody else
saw it. But it seemed like Coach Lou was screaming
something at Bones Highland and I don't know if he
hit the ignore button or he did receive the message,
but I couldn't tell if he was like listening when
Coach Lou was trying to coach him up, and I
don't yeah, I don't know. There was a moment there
where I was wondering, is he tuning him out with
taking the ball up right now when Coach Lou was
trying to give him some direction. I honestly don't know.
I'm wondering if anybody else knew get into the comment section.
There just seemed to be some bad body language and
you know, a lot of isoball and he did get
a jumper to go after nobody else touched the ball
in the possession. Cool, but he had a really bad
pass wrap around behind the back pass that went out
a back elms uh and then along too. It was
just the play was not very inspiring and it was
not very serious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just I guess I hope that next
time we see him in garbage time it is inspiring
because he's not doesn't see to be helping his case
to take KPJ's spot. No, not the KPJ has lit
it up. But he rebounds, he cuts well, which he
did last night for his one bucket.
Speaker 3: Bones did this last season too, so this isn't something new.
So we're already watching and seeing if it's happening again,
and there's a close eye on him, and it is.
It's just, man, he's too young. I understand there's frustration
because he had the backup job and he was playing
really well the first four games of last season, but
he does a year ago. You can't defeat yourself and
not giving one hundred percent effort no matter what time
those men it's are coming. Being at this age, it's
a bad look if that's what it is.
Speaker 2: He's too good to look like that is a thing,
Like he's too talented against the garbage Time lineup, like
he should be shitting on people and like helping his
teammates shit on people, like you know what I mean, Like,
it's just it's nonsense. And I get that it's I
get that it's not the biggest opportunity, but I mean,
take advantage of pop for pop for two minutes. Like
and I'm not saying that you're gonna automatic like you're
you're gonna be there, You're gonna.
Speaker 1: Be the bad guy.
Speaker 2: But isn't that a better path forward than looking like
shit in those two minutes.
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly. The fans like bones and they're
waiting for something to get excited about, even in those minutes,
because they're young guys with potential, and if they did
do something exciting, like Kobe Brown had that layup right
away that was kind of a tough shot on the
right block. By the way, Yeah, uh, come on your
showing tape. Regardless, coaches watch everything, they don't go over
it and say, oh, I'm not gonna watch the garbage time.
Minutes later on, they're a value ready everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're telling me, then Gundhy's not watching the garbage time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, due fine tooth comb show out.
Speaker 1: Please please next time, maybe it'll happen against the Raptors.
But like, you gotta put good tape up. It doesn't
matter if you stay after practice and work on whatever,
if you're in the game and you're not doing what
you're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 3: Because I'm pretty sure at the end of the season,
when they compile it all and are going over it,
they're seeing a bunch of garbage time minutes that may
add up to like thirty minutes of total tape. It
happened to all be during garbage time, and if you
played that poorly, they're seeing a bunch of trash tape. Yeah,
thirty minutes on you that all happened during garbage time,
and they're not going to care about that it was
inconsequential minutes. That's not how it's going to look.
Speaker 1: You're minus sixteen garbage time super cut Like that doesn't
doesn't feel good, No, figure it out.
Speaker 3: But it's early. It's early, but it just some warning
signs that we saw last season seemed to this season.
Speaker 2: It's discouraging because it feels like more of the same.
You've got a guy who's like, I mean la like
at the time was only twenty three years old. He's
already getting shipped home by the team. Like, come on, like,
get it together, do you? I mean, like, I know
it's not your ideal position, but like do you want
to be here? Do you want to be in this
league or not?
Speaker 1: Because this is what it is? Some nice and you
know who does want to be in this league. Who's
having a little moment right now? Brandon Boston Junior.
Speaker 3: Hey, I remember a couple of weeks ago, I was like,
would anyone be surprised if Brandon Boston Junior popped this season?
Like that was my argument for playing Jordan Miller. It's like,
you can't find out about these guys if they don't
ever get real minutes, if they don't ever play out there,
which I know kind of goes against Bones Island, but hey,
he's actually played real minutes and played really well in them.
Just take the other one serious too. You can't act
like it's beneath you. You're too young of a player
for that. Huh.
Speaker 1: We helped at the garbage time minutes in the good
way are better this week against the Kings and Raptors.
We're gonna maybe do a postgame live on Friday. Whole
crew should be at the game on Saturday, which should
be a good time. If you see us, come say
What's up? Double Dip on AM five to seventy for
the games and probably an episode on Sunday for y'all.
Will Where can these people beg their family members to
listen to this podcast so they can finally relate to
them a Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't be like Bones Island. Don't be too proud
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Speaker 1: Slash at Clippers podcast.
Speaker 2: Still the best way to enjoy this podcast in my
opinion one man's opinion. But however you enjoy this podcast,
we appreciate you for listening.
Speaker 1: He is but one man. William Updyke adam one positive
thing to send these Clippers fans out on this frigid
Thursday evening with.
Speaker 3: You know while the Clippers don't have Paul George, the
guy that is in the starting lineup that is somewhat
replacing and supplementing the scoring loss without pg Uh, he's
going for it. He wants this and he's taking advantage
of it right now with Norman Powell. And it is
easy to root for a guy that is looking for
a shot all the time, that is being aggressive, and
that is living up to walk on the walk and
talking the talk from everything he said this past offseason,
so so far, eight games in Norman Powell, congratulations, you're
kicking everybody's ass and proving why you should have been
the starting lineup before.
Speaker 1: We love it it is, it was additioned by subtraction.
We will be back for y'all fairly soon. Here's some
dubs and as always, let's go clips.