WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:02.560 Jonathan and I were back here with a fire going, 2 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:06.480 and there was multiple sasquatch around us, and they were 3 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:08.839 doing you know that thing. I call it sasquatch creeping 4 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:12.919 when they're you're talking, conversating, playing music, whatever, and they'll 5 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:16.120 creep in. But the minute you're quiet and stop, they stopped. 6 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:19.359 We could not see them, and they kept making sounds, 7 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:23.120 kept knocking, and stuff kept getting closer. After a half 8 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:25.600 hour went by, I was done. I decided I want 9 00:00:25.640 --> 00:00:27.920 to go in. So we start to walk back this 10 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:31.160 is our backyard and I hit a wall like I 11 00:00:31.320 --> 00:00:35.200 just stopped. I wasn't scared, it wasn't fear. I just 12 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:38.439 like hit a wall and just like goosebumps covered my body. 13 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:41.520 It just stopped me for a minute. We could feel 14 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:45.280 this run off, We could feel it wrong. It was 15 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:47.840 six feet away from me at this tree, and it 16 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:52.000 just takes off so fast and so strong that you 17 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:56.640 could feel its feet hit the ground. It was absolutely incredible. 18 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:35.000 Sarah, thanks for joining me on Bigfoot Crossroads, a platform 19 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:38.719 that you're kind of familiar with, right, I am. 20 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:41.560 Thank you for having me. It's been a really long time, 21 00:01:41.599 --> 00:01:42.879 probably over a decade. 22 00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:45.560 Yeah, that's crazy. I was thinking about that well ago 23 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:48.400 as a matter of fact, like how long we've known 24 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:51.560 one another. It's all kind of crazy that it's coming 25 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:55.120 full circle at this point in life. Sarah is the 26 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:59.519 other half of the Brown property in Washington. But there's 27 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:03.079 much more more to you than that. You actually created 28 00:02:03.120 --> 00:02:06.680 the first logo for Bigfoot Crossroads years and years ago, 29 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:11.199 whenever I first kicked it off with your husband Jonathan 30 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:15.159 as my co host, and here we are, like you said, 31 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:16.280 over a decade. 32 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:19.039 Later, over a decade later. 33 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:21.639 I don't even know if I've ever asked you this 34 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:25.919 question personally. I probably did, like, you know, fifteen years ago, 35 00:02:26.039 --> 00:02:30.879 but how did it start for you? Like you personally, 36 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:33.599 I know the story of your property and everything, and 37 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:36.120 obviously the thermal video, but like, how did all this 38 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:37.719 bigfoot stuff start for you? 39 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:43.240 It started on my first date with John. He brought 40 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:45.560 it up on our very first date, and I thought 41 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:49.599 it was funny and I was like, oh, this guy's serious, 42 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:53.960 you know. And then it didn't take me long to 43 00:02:54.479 --> 00:02:59.560 figure Okay, maybe there's something to this because he's serious 44 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:05.560 and mean, like all these family stories and presenting like 45 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:12.159 some good evidence to me, you know. So not long 46 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:15.400 went by when John and his brother went to Lower 47 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:18.800 Lewis Falls and they heard a sasquatch, and then shortly 48 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:21.639 after that is when we started hearing them here. They've 49 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:25.400 probably always been here, according to the neighbors, they've been here, 50 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:30.240 but we became aware of them back in twenty twelve, 51 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:36.360 and uh, yeah, it's been it's been a ride ever since. 52 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:40.319 It took me quite a long time to be fully 53 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:45.159 convinced that they were real. It actually took that daylight 54 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:48.639 photo of the top of the head that I got 55 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:50.800 for me to be fully convinced, because it was really 56 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:55.520 hard for me to undo, you know, years and years 57 00:03:55.520 --> 00:03:59.199 and years of thinking it was a joke. 58 00:03:59.639 --> 00:03:59.879 Right. 59 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:04.439 But yeah, once you sit back and you look at 60 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:08.560 all of the evidence and everything, it's quite overwhelming, isn't it. 61 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:12.879 It's completely overwhelming. I mean this stuff, I know, to 62 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:17.000 like someone on the outside looking in, it doesn't seem 63 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:20.839 like that substantial of an argument, just based solely on 64 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:24.000 the fact that, well, it's never been proven. You know, 65 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:27.439 where's all the clear videos, where's the bodies, et cetera, 66 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:31.279 et cetera. But if you're involved in this and really 67 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:35.720 like tapped into the Bigfoot community and the Bigfoot Research community. 68 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:41.199 Information piles in all the time, and you guys have 69 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:47.199 been kind of changed over from the research site. It 70 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:50.000 seems like you guys are more interested in collecting the 71 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:53.720 stories yourselves. Talk a little bit about your YouTube channel 72 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:54.600 and what you're doing with it. 73 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:58.759 Okay, well, we're actually doing We actually do both. I 74 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:03.600 still still document everything. I don't know if you remember 75 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:06.560 the journal that I used to keep, but I still 76 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:11.240 write down all activity or all possible activity. And we 77 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:15.160 also have another recording project that we're doing right now 78 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:19.759 with our friend Steve Edwards. So we still are collecting. 79 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:22.560 But on top of that, what our goal right now 80 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:26.319 with our YouTube channel is is to overwhelm the public 81 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:32.399 with sasquatch story sasquatch encounters, and so we have people 82 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:37.120 that collect evidence like us, and then we also have 83 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:42.279 people who just had an encounter, one sighting somewhere. That's 84 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:45.040 about it. That's about it. It's on sales Sasquatch on 85 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:47.199 YouTube if anybody who wants to go check that out. 86 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:51.000 But we have tons of evidence from our own property 87 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:55.920 as well as again these stories from other people. Most 88 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.560 of them are from Washington State, with the exception of 89 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:00.240 a few people that we've have from. 90 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:04.120 Yeah, you guys are kind of focusing on the local 91 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:05.079 area there, aren't you. 92 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:09.920 For now? Yeah, for now we are, just because there's 93 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:12.800 so much you know, I mean, we still have the 94 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:15.279 tribes to We've got a lot of tribes that we 95 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:18.160 have some projects lined up with. We want to get 96 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:21.639 those stories out. And there's also a lot of older 97 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:23.959 gentlemen that have been involved in the subject for a 98 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:28.360 very long time, like John Andrews, who we did a 99 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:31.319 video with not long ago. But there's some others that 100 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:33.199 are getting up there in age that I would also 101 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:37.199 like to film so that we can preserve their stories 102 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:38.000 and their research. 103 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:42.360 What's some of the things, like some of the encounters 104 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:44.800 that have really stood out out of the people that 105 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:47.399 you've spoken with for your YouTube channel. 106 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:51.319 We just interviewed a guy, Okay, so he had a 107 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:55.399 few different encounters with these creatures in his lifetime. He's 108 00:06:55.519 --> 00:07:00.000 up in the north northern Cascades of Washington State. Actually, 109 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:01.759 I think that you're going to interview him pretty soon 110 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:05.360 on your your your podcast. But his name is James, 111 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:09.079 and he had a few different encounters, including a sasquatch 112 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:12.079 coming in and clearing out an entire campground that they 113 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:15.600 were at. But the story that I like even better 114 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:20.240 is his most uh he calls it his most intense story. 115 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:24.040 And this guy's a combat vet. You know, he trained combat. 116 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:27.480 He's fought the drug cartels down in Central America. Like 117 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:33.120 he knows, uh, he knows combat. He knows you know, stealthiness, 118 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:36.959 all of that. He's a hunter. And there was some 119 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:40.560 sasquatch flanking him and his friend one time for miles 120 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:44.040 as they left the woods. When he tells a story, 121 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:47.920 he just, you know, the goosebumps come over him and 122 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:50.800 it's just was quite traumatizing for him. And he just 123 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:54.720 speaks about how he's never been up even his times 124 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:57.879 in war, he's never been up against anything like that 125 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.120 in the woods. I just really love that story because 126 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:04.160 that's how I like. People always question, how come there's 127 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:07.319 no videos, how come we don't, you know, have all 128 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:10.000 of a body. How come we don't see them very often? 129 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:13.879 And people do see them all the time. But I 130 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:18.199 think their number one rule is to be stealth and elusive, 131 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:21.680 and there is no other creature that is as good 132 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:24.000 at it that is on this planet. In my opinion. 133 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:28.399 Your property became famous for the thermal video footage that 134 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:31.519 kind of propelled you guys right into the heart of 135 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:36.720 the bigfoot world. So, living on a property that's known 136 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:43.000 to have at least occasional activity, what sort of things 137 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:47.799 are like common occurrences around your place? But then like, 138 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:50.600 how often do you guys really encounter these things there? 139 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:57.279 Okay, so we hear them often. We hear them quite often. 140 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.799 John heard the female. I think this was four or 141 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:05.000 five nights ago. Now, John heard the female what he 142 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:08.960 believes was the female in the woods talking. We hear 143 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:12.440 them all the time, but the decade or the sightings 144 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:15.720 are like once a decade. I mean, that's so rare 145 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:18.720 that you see one. And I don't know if you 146 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:21.480 knew that I saw one on May tenth, May tenth 147 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:25.159 of this year. But we believe that it's the same 148 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:29.840 male that keeps that we keep seeing because the height 149 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:32.960 of it, For one, the height keeps popping up. So 150 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:36.200 the creature in the thermo video appears to be about 151 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:39.000 the same height as the one in the daylight photo 152 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.759 that I got. And in that daylight photo, he's got 153 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:47.200 two colors going on on his head right, like that 154 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:51.840 reddish color. And then there's like some discoloration going on 155 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:55.799 on his head. Well, when I saw him on May tenth, 156 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:59.440 he was about six hundred feet away, but still I 157 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:01.919 knew zact what I was looking at. And he was 158 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:06.639 two colors it was. It was orangutan red, like a 159 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:13.399 bronzish color, and then like a blondish grayish bronze color. 160 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:17.440 We have a red German shepherd that's getting very old, 161 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:23.080 and this sasquatch had almost the same two colorings on it, 162 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:27.000 so I think it's the same male that we're working with. 163 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:30.919 I did see another sasquatch that one time through thermal 164 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:34.600 that was significantly shorter and didn't have the collar head 165 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:37.519 and it was swaying. That was the first one I 166 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:40.519 ever saw. And then other common things that we hear 167 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:44.720 is we hear wood knocks, and we hear rock clacking, 168 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:50.919 and then we also hear lots of mimicking of sounds, 169 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:55.759 lots of coyote mimicry. They'll mimic anything. I believe that 170 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:59.960 they even mimic machinery, you know, or you'll hear about 171 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:02.840 car door slams in the middle of the forest. I 172 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:05.720 think that they mimic whatever they can. We actually heard 173 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:09.679 a really good impression of an ambulance One time when 174 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:12.159 our window was open. It was the heat of the 175 00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:16.600 summer and there was no cars coming or anything, and 176 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:22.519 we hear an amazing impression of an ambulance and it 177 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.960 was walking down our fence line. Oh wow, and our 178 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:31.399 reaction is what caused it to stop. So it's mostly 179 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:32.960 things like that, and then we hear a lot of 180 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:38.279 weird sounds too, just sounds that we're not sure what 181 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:41.200 else it could be, you know, right. 182 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:44.559 Can you talk a bit more about the maintent sighting, 183 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:45.960 like how that happened and everything. 184 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:50.639 So Jonathan and I were sitting down in this area 185 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:53.720 that we call the rock pit. There's all these stacked stones, 186 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:59.879 and our property sits up on like a small hill, 187 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:04.639 and there's a rig that wraps around our entire property, 188 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:09.320 and uh, the ridge goes down into a valley and 189 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:17.679 then the river wraps around the valley. And so Jonathan 190 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:19.559 and I were sitting down in this rock pit where 191 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:23.519 you overlook the whole valley and you can see into 192 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:27.440 this tree line which is east of our property. And 193 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:31.600 you're familiar with the east side of our property, that's 194 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:35.799 where the most activity is. That's where a lot of 195 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:39.879 the resources are. What people need to understand is our 196 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:44.559 our our property is a funnel to some very very 197 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:50.360 valuable resources, including a very large black walnut grove. Creeks, 198 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:55.320 you know, an amazing spring fed creek that is has 199 00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:57.559 a lot of wild mint going through it, so it's 200 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:00.399 like extremely clean, like you could drink it, you know. 201 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:04.279 So there's a lot of resources down there. But John 202 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:06.720 and I were sitting here and I was looking across 203 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:09.879 the field while he was talking, and it was right there. 204 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:11.879 It was right there, and then it was gone, and 205 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:15.080 the sun was shining right on him. I knew exactly 206 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:17.759 what I was looking at when I saw him, and 207 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:22.559 I saw his head and everything, and it was so 208 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:26.279 fast that I don't know which way he went. I 209 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:28.440 don't know if he went right, left or up, you know, 210 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:31.600 up down. I have no clue he was gone. I 211 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:34.480 was high on adrenaline for a while after that. That was. 212 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:37.600 That was quite something else. That was like the time 213 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:40.399 that I went to Notts Very Farm with my sister 214 00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:43.360 and we read roller coasters, we rode roller coasters all day. 215 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:47.000 That's how I felt. I was just like so high 216 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:52.559 on adrenaline that it made me made me want more, 217 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:53.960 you know, And I was like, man, I want to 218 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:57.759 see one closer. Now they don't let you see them though. 219 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:03.639 It's just so rare. It's just so incredibly rare. We're 220 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:07.279 trying to also get people to talk about this publicly 221 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:10.159 because there's a lot of people that fear ridicule with 222 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:13.480 their stories, you know that, like, would you say it's safe, 223 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:17.279 it's safe to call the number one percent of people 224 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:21.000 actually report their sightings. It's not much more than that. 225 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:25.240 All of the people that we come across have not 226 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:28.679 reported their sightings. I know one person that's my friend Ariel, 227 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:32.960 who has reported hers when she was young. From when 228 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:36.039 she was young. Most people don't report it. And we're 229 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:39.399 trying to get people comfortable with this because it's backwards. 230 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:42.000 If you think about it, if somebody were to tell 231 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:45.240 you that they saw a unicorn or something so rare, 232 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:48.039 it shouldn't be looked at as so crazy, you know 233 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:49.919 what I mean. It should be looked at as, man, 234 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:53.360 you're freaking lucky. And I want people to feel lucky 235 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:57.200 that they saw a sasquatch because it really is. It's 236 00:14:57.200 --> 00:14:59.799 an amazing thing and most people in their lifetime are 237 00:14:59.799 --> 00:15:01.399 never We're going to get that opportunity. 238 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:05.679 I mean, how long was it since your last siding 239 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:07.080 of one on your property? 240 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:13.240 Ten ten years before, so ten years once per decade, Yeah, a. 241 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:16.240 Ten year gap. And you live on property that they 242 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:17.759 frequent and travel through. 243 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:22.360 And that we hear them all the time, almost almost 244 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:25.039 once a month at least. We you know, sometimes there 245 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:28.039 will be a couple months of dry spell, but for 246 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:32.120 the most part, we hear them so frequently, whether it's 247 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:34.240 a mile and a half away or you know, right 248 00:15:34.279 --> 00:15:37.960 out the tree line. The episode that happened this was 249 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:44.039 September fifteenth of twenty twenty three. This is the closest 250 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:47.559 set I've ever been to one Behind our property, there's 251 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:51.840 about one hundred and twenty feet of wooded area, and 252 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:56.320 this is the wooded area. This is one hundred and 253 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:00.000 twenty feet that you see between Jonathan and his breath 254 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:03.159 and the sasquatch on the ridge in the thermal video. 255 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:07.240 So sometimes in the summer we put a fire out there, 256 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:11.799 and we've had people come camp out there too, and 257 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:15.919 they'll usually come in and knock on trees if there's 258 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:19.759 like campers and tents back here. Jonathan and I were 259 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:23.519 back here with a fire going and there was multiple 260 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:26.399 sasquatch around us, and they were doing you know that 261 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:31.320 thing I call it sasquatch creeping when they're you're talking, conversating, 262 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:34.039 playing music, whatever, and they'll creep in. But the minute 263 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:38.320 you're quiet and stop, they stop. You know, they can 264 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:40.679 play that game all day. They'll do that for so 265 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:43.759 long if they have to. We could not see them, 266 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:48.000 and they kept making sounds, kept knocking, and stuff kept 267 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:52.559 getting closer. After a half hour went by, I was done. 268 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:55.000 I decided I want to go in. So we start 269 00:16:55.039 --> 00:17:00.159 to walk back and I'm six feet from exiting the 270 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:04.279 tree line into our this is our backyard, and I 271 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:09.480 hit a wall. Like I just stopped, and like I 272 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:12.720 wasn't scared, It wasn't fear. I just like hit a 273 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:16.720 wall and just like goosebumps covered my body. It just 274 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:19.680 stopped me for a minute, you know, And then I 275 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:22.160 was just like, oh my gosh, what in the world. 276 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:26.680 We could feel this run off, We could feel it 277 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:28.920 right up. It was six feet away from me at 278 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:33.160 this tree and it just takes off so fast and 279 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:36.880 so strong that you could feel its feet hit the ground. 280 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:43.079 And this It's incredible how fast this thing scaled the yard. 281 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:45.960 So I have a lot of shrubs and trees and 282 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.079 things like that in the backyard, and I also have 283 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:54.039 a chicken coop, a chicken coop. This thing scaled everything 284 00:17:54.839 --> 00:18:00.920 in seconds. It was absolutely incredible. That's the closest I've 285 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.480 ever been to one. And people ask me how did 286 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:07.240 they smell, And on that occasion, I didn't smell one. 287 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:09.960 So I don't think that they always smell. 288 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:14.759 Yeah, I think it's a thing that an odor that 289 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:19.480 possibly gets released on certain situations, like when they're excited 290 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:21.480 or something. But I don't think it happens all the time. 291 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:25.200 That running into that invisible wall that you're talking about, though, 292 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:30.759 that's something that's commonly talked about among bigfooters, you know, 293 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:33.599 running into the wall. 294 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:37.759 That happened to me on November seventh of just this 295 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:40.839 month too, November seventh, I was going to the front 296 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:43.279 yard and it was pitch black out there again east 297 00:18:43.279 --> 00:18:46.480 side of the property. And as soon as I cleared 298 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:49.160 this old house that's on our property, as soon as 299 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:53.279 I cleared this old outhouse that's there, I hit that wall. 300 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:57.160 I hit it so hard that my body just naturally 301 00:18:57.480 --> 00:19:00.079 took a sharp turn to the right, and I was like, Okay, 302 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:02.839 it's time to it's time to go back in. 303 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:06.039 Have you ever felt like you were in danger on 304 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:06.680 your property? 305 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:12.960 The only time was I told you about this years ago. 306 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:16.839 This was probably I would say twelve years ago. But 307 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:23.799 I was down by the creek one day and there 308 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:27.839 was this like overwhelming sense of I don't know, like 309 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:31.839 I was just really got really fearful. I don't know why. 310 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:35.519 I was just extremely fearful. And all of a sudden, 311 00:19:35.640 --> 00:19:39.839 all of these knocks started coming from all over, like 312 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:43.400 all over the tree lines around this valley, like far 313 00:19:43.599 --> 00:19:48.039 and close, just beating on trees, and I was just like, 314 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:50.720 what in the world is going on? What are they doing? 315 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:54.200 I couldn't see any of them, but there were multiple 316 00:19:54.559 --> 00:19:58.480 individuals beating on trees while I'm down there. And I 317 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:02.200 exited the tree line and got out into the open 318 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:04.960 field and came home. And by the time I got 319 00:20:05.079 --> 00:20:08.880 back home, I was crying. I was in tears, and 320 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:12.240 I can't explain that. I don't know why. I just 321 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:18.400 felt like maybe something was stalking me or something. I'm 322 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:21.200 not sure, and I'm not saying that it was a Sasquatch. 323 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:26.599 I don't think that Sasquatch typically are like that, especially 324 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:30.079 not the ones here. But I just can't answer that. 325 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:32.880 I don't know what it was. I don't know if 326 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:37.599 something was warning me, if they were warning me. Yeah, 327 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:40.559 I can't answer that. That's like the most intense feeling 328 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:44.200 that I've ever had here, and that it was just 329 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:47.160 at one time. And you know, I go to that 330 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:50.519 area often, it's not a bad area, but it was 331 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:54.319 just something about that day. There was something there that 332 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:58.000 I don't think it was a safe, a safe thing. 333 00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:03.599 Earlier today I made on Instagram on the Instagram account 334 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:10.440 my friend Jonathan Dodd, artist Extraordinary, had done a rendition 335 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:13.640 of my first sighting that I had through the night vision. 336 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:18.559 He heard me being interviewed on Bigfoot Society podcast and 337 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:21.599 shared the artwork with me, told me I could use 338 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:23.799 it if I wanted to. So I went and I 339 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:29.680 found the original report that I had submitted to Bigfoot 340 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:33.240 Encounters dot com Bauck years and years ago, whenever it 341 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:36.359 happened two thousand and two, and I just kind of 342 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:39.640 overlaid the text, you know, on the artwork or whatever. 343 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:43.880 And I hadn't read that report in a really long time. 344 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:47.720 And as I was reading through it. I noticed that 345 00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:53.160 I specifically mentioned that I was with a group of researchers, 346 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:55.200 a small group. There was like four of us, I think, 347 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:58.880 and two of them were female. And I put that 348 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:05.279 in the report because back then I was told that 349 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:11.000 women attract Bigfoot for whatever reason, they seem to have 350 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:16.480 better luck. I know at your house, there's you and 351 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:19.640 your family, which consists of women in Jonathan. 352 00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:21.839 Don't discount David. 353 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:29.599 Right, But does activity increase whenever the men are gone. 354 00:22:28.920 --> 00:22:33.000 No, not that I've noticed. No. They've probably known John 355 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:33.799 since he was young. 356 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:35.839 This is family property, right. 357 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:41.400 This is family property. Yeah, generations of family. And again 358 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.640 we're on tribal lands. John is tribal a lot of people, 359 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:49.279 including David Ellis. I was just talking to Shane Corson 360 00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:51.759 about this last night on the phone, and him and 361 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:56.279 David Ellis both think that a big reason why they're 362 00:22:56.440 --> 00:22:59.240 often on towards the front yard on the east side 363 00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:05.079 of the property is because David Jonathan's uncle, who's there. 364 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:08.960 I don't know if you how you're if you want 365 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:11.240 to talk about this or whatnot, or if you're you 366 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:13.680 feel like some of your listeners might be too sensitive. 367 00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:19.039 But David is very autistic, and he's a genius. But 368 00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:23.640 he does the same routine every day. He does the 369 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:27.759 same exact thing on Mondays. Every Monday he eats the 370 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:31.720 same thing. Every Tuesday, he eats the same thing. He 371 00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:34.119 does the exact same thing every day. And I think 372 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:37.519 that they find comfort in that these creatures are the 373 00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:42.759 masters of reading body language, and I think that there's 374 00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:46.759 something very disarming about somebody who is autistic like that. 375 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:52.640 Yeah, I agree. I think they definitely have the ability 376 00:23:53.680 --> 00:24:00.640 to read somebody's if they're dangerous or not, you know, 377 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:03.279 the aggression that a person has or whatever. If they're 378 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:05.440 a hunter, you know, they treat them a certain way 379 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:09.319 compared to a child. And I know that they've always 380 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:14.000 seemed to be fascinated with children. I know there's you know, 381 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:17.359 of course, the horror stories out there that they kidnap 382 00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:21.240 people and eat them and everything else. But yeah, I 383 00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:22.039 think you're right. 384 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:24.720 I could be wrong, but I think that Sasquatch are 385 00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:30.160 kind of like people, and I think that naturally it 386 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:32.799 is not in their nature to harm humans. But I 387 00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:35.359 do think that every once in a while, just like humans, 388 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:38.880 you're gonna get a Jeffrey Dahmer, You're gonna get you know, 389 00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:43.400 those bad things. And also also I can't discount the 390 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:46.960 fact that some of these groups that I hear about, 391 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:50.559 like in Alaska and things like that, these groups that 392 00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:54.720 are more aggressive or even on the border of violent. 393 00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:58.400 I often wonder if something happened to them, if there 394 00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:01.920 was too much human encroachment or something that caused them 395 00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:03.680 to be like that. 396 00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:07.480 Or even if human encrushment is kind of still new 397 00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:11.960 to them compared to where it is other places. You know, Yeah, 398 00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:16.319 the biggest incident in all my years of big footing 399 00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:20.599 outside of you know, my own personal you know, the 400 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:22.480 first sighting that I had and things like that. But 401 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:24.559