Speaker 1: All start Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where the.
Speaker 1: Plays get broken down and science gets denied.
Speaker 2: Got to come off the bench?
Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Mercedes
Benz Baton Rouge Studio starts.
Speaker 3: Now, all right, welcome back again, Oh TV one, O
four five, ESPN, Betton Ruge.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm that that sound when we come in there
and that it's that guy that says seriously to come
off the bench. Who is that?
Speaker 4: I don't know?
Speaker 2: Wait, I think I know is that because I can
tell you I've always like listen to this. When I
first listened to the show, I was like, that's that's
Glenn Dorsey. No, I think it's is that Carmelo. It's
a basketball player. It always sounded like him. I think
it's Carmelo Anthony. Pretty sure. It sounds like should we
get but to record something like them, it's not. I've
always thought it.
Speaker 3: Was Putt's playing golfing Calabasas even probably right now at
six oh one, based on guy, I uld have love
messing with Glenn. The story bombs Jeez. The story of
Glenn Dorsey traveling for the first time. Is one of
my absolute favorites. So he's from obviously he went to
EA right down the road in Zalez.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: He'd never been on an airplane before, just hed never,
like never, He didn't take his official visits.
Speaker 2: He was always l s U.
Speaker 3: So the first time that he ever got on a
plane was our first road trip at LSU. And when
I say like, England's a large human, right, I mean, well,
not anymore.
Speaker 2: He lost a ton of weight, but.
Speaker 3: I mean super tough, yest grinder, yeah right, the meanest,
like nastiest, most feared guy in college football in two.
Speaker 2: Thousand and seven, yep. But the sweetest human on.
Speaker 3: My god, when I say this man was gripping on
to each arm in his chair. He was so nervous
to fly. I mean you could see the sweat. I mean,
he looked like he had played a game. And he's
like you know when somebody's nervous on a plane, they're
like fully back, their arms are extended and they're just
sitting there and they're staring kind of up because they're like,
if I look anywhere else, I'm gonna I'm gonna lose everything.
I'm gonna hurtle yep, and he was almost like a
shade of green.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's always broken the arm rest.
Speaker 4: He really did.
Speaker 3: And so like you know, you would think, okay, well,
his teammates are gonna comfort him, right, his teammates are
gonna be like, hey man, it's okay, Like we've all
flown before. It's not that big of a deal, Like
we're gonna be fine to We're on this huge commercial airplane.
It's chartered, Like this plane is going to get to
wherever it needs to go, right, some would.
Speaker 4: Do that, not us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in a plane full of your peers. So
when there's blood in the water, yeah, the sharks.
Speaker 3: So we go, and I mean we're taking off. And
so when if you've never done it before and you're
taking off, I mean you're picking them up and putting
them down like you're going fast down the runway. Like
everybody knows that now, like you're flying whatever. So it
does that, and you can tell it's just he's about
to pass out. Yeah, And so as as we go up, like.
Speaker 2: Starting to notice that, everybody's starting to notice that he's
gripping hard.
Speaker 3: First the first like time you really just get up right, Well,
two or three people behind Glenn Dorsey get his chair
and they just start shaking it as hard as they
possibly can, and you're like, oh my god, oh no,
what's going and y'all he.
Speaker 4: Loses it, just loses it.
Speaker 3: Like panic, yelling, looking around, asking God for protection.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I'll never get that image. Throughout the flight, he was
in different positions of stress, taking off lane and backgrip,
and there's multiple times where he was like he was
leaning forward, like one hand on the headrest in front
of him, one hand like on his thigh, like looking
down like he like and he was like shaking almost right,
and you know, you're wearing college and it's like, well,
we start the descent and we're about to land. Hey Glenn,
they say ninety nine percent of plane crashes happened when
you land, then when you take off, Hey Glenn, ninety
plane crashes happened when you take off. Oh my gosh,
that's not a real stat stat. It's just meant this.
Speaker 3: Oh it's so good. And somebody said, are those guys
still alive? They are because I know for a fact
that Melvin Oliver was one of them. Melvin large human being,
he's he's a hell of player. I want to say
Cal Williams was the other.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it was everybody right, like everybody's good.
I mean, it's just it just happens. You get a
bunch of don college kids together, it's just funny. In
the NFL, we did the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's just funny that a guy like that
had never flown before because he was like I'm saying
it lsu N from down the road, right, I'm not
gonna go on official visits.
Speaker 2: And look, I hate I don't like fun either. I
do it. I'm not a fan, do it quite a bit.
I just would rather keep the old feet on the
ground situation. I don't do small planes.
Speaker 3: I've done them a couple of times, and every time
I do.
Speaker 2: A mike, what do you mean a small plane? I
got like like a prop compeller. I'm really talking about
almost anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anything, any anything that you got to duck your
head to get into, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know, not a short fella. So
there's been so many times we're in trouble and I
feel like these airlines are squeezing another couple of rows
of seats in these things.
Speaker 3: Maybe they are tight like, you got to have more
than ten seats for me to get on that thing. Look,
I've done him. I've done the four seats, I've done
the sixth. The first plane I ever got up in
was an old World War two plane, which like it
was just pilot in front of me and I'm in
the back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's like an air show situation.
Speaker 3: The first one like I ever got in it was
it was awesome and it actually felt more safe in that.
Speaker 2: Than right, like a like a little glider. Right. So
we me and my buddy Josh sitting when we I
can't remember what year it was, but we were playing
in Green Bay and he's from Pisway.
Speaker 3: Is this a guy that's that said T Bob was
a complete liability.
Speaker 2: Yes, Bingo in Vegas. Another story. We'll save it, we'll
tease it. So we go down. He's from Pensacola, lives
in Pensacola. Yeah, Blue Angel, Blue Angels. So we're like,
all right, let's see off Seaton.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I think it might have been July fourth, that's when
the Blue Angels big show in Pensacola Beach, right, that
is that Memorial Day of July. I think it's July fourth. Anyway,
So he's like, hey, we got invited you. I want
to come ride on the Fat Albert play with me.
I'm my absolutely, Yeah, I don't want to ride on
a fighter jet because I get like sick. I've seen
the videos of people like black and Out for sure.
Doesn't intrigue me. Yeah, it'd be a cool story, but like,
you got to live through that.
Speaker 3: Story first, and you're gonna throw up on yourself. You're
gonna pass.
Speaker 2: I'm a guy that gets like really motion sick. I
have to I drive all the time. When people are going,
I gotta sit in the front seat. If it's in
the back, I got a baby tummy, all right, it's
a baby tummy. Yeah, And that's you know, it's it's
my cross the barrier here, you know. But I always
get sick on everything. So I get off Fat Albert.
And so the pilot's talking like these are these are
fighter planets. They serve our country. They are the best
pilots in the whole world. He's like talking about these
When we do these fights, we work evasive maneuvers. So
we were we take off, We're gonna take off like
we are under fire, and Okay, yeah, and we're we're yeah,
we're gonna place, we're gonna take off, So we're gonna
take off really fast. Yeah, and we're gonna go straight up, right,
because you gotta get up in the air. You got
to get out of range of ye of what they're
shooting at you. So so you do it. So we
did this, and can I tell you we went straight
up in the air and then you flatten out and
you hit zero gravity for like two seconds. Yeah. But
I've never felt safer than being on that plane because
of like knowing the pilot, knowing they're like the greatest
pilots in the whole entire world. Yeah. And then all
of a sudden, we're sitting there and we're flying. We're
kind of like tooling around waiting for the show. Then
the then the fighter Jessica Blue angels like you go
right past us, and so we're like flying over the
beach in front of all the people. Yeah, like on
this big ass plane. Yeah, and they're like, all right,
these wings they're you know, they're one hundred feet long.
He's like, and we're going to be flying about fifty
foot over the over the ocean. I'm like that, I'm
doing the math in my head, and I'm trying to
like figure out the angles, like like what if what
if you just a little gust of wind, maybe a
rogue wave comes at us, Like what happens that point?
What happened at that point? So all these things a
really spinning in my mind. But I just say that
the say like I felt more safe in that moment
than I do taking off on Delta from Baton Rouge
to the doll Or Batteries Atlanta with the one seat
over here. I didn't call over here in the airline. Okay, yeah,
you can't. Don't at me, Delta, that's all. You got
to keep everything open.
Speaker 3: In case Delta wants to sponsor the number seven morning
radio show in the country.
Speaker 2: After your number six, who was number six? We can
look that up anyways, nobody knows because we were wondering.
Speaker 3: True true, Well, I mean, you know, we're we're going
to tell this story because you said that you saw
it in a vision that gart Nessmeyer was going to
be in New York for the Heisman ceremony. And so
if that is the case, which is very very cool
that I get to, you know, cover Army Navy every
single year it's it's my favorite thing that I do
because it's Army Navy, and I just can't.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 3: If you've never done it, I can't explain it. To
do it justice, I can't. Everybody, everybody listening needs to
go to Army Navy at least once in their lifetime.
You just you have to do it. You need to
do it. If you have kids, bring the kids. It
is incredible.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that anybody could, just like I
thought it was all service members that they could go.
So anybody can.
Speaker 3: Anybody Ticketmaster tickets, you can go it.
Speaker 2: Matt Man.
Speaker 3: It is chills thirty times over all. Right, So I
get to do that every year. Very grateful. This year's
in Baltimore, I believe. But the year that Jayden won
the Heisman, it was in Boston. Well, if an LSU
player makes it to the Heisman ceremony, serious exem sends me.
I went with Joe, went with Jayden and the little
peek behind the curtain because they know if they send me,
I'm gonna see the player and we're gonna get an
interview without having to spend the big bucks to get
said interview. So I was doing Army Navy pregame show
and we do it outside freezing cold, but still a
lot of fun in Boston. And they were like, all right,
we think he's gonna win, We're gonna send you up
there same day, same day. So I go from doing
Army Navy, I god already driven from as you know,
you played there from Boston to Foxborough, right, so you
make that track up there, and then from there after
the game or after the pregame show. I had to
get an uber because I had to go to Providence,
Rhode Island to get on a train. Getting an uber
was I mean, I'm I've got this suitcase walking through
like all these people trying to go to get because
I don't get to go to the game now because
I got to go cover the Heisman. And so like
I meet this this Uber driver and this random bass
Pro parking lot, just like with all these people trying
to get in, we're trying to get out. So I
get in there and I get on train from Providence.
Speaker 2: Rhode Island.
Speaker 3: I go all the way to New York, a couple
hour train drive. Again, I've got all my luggage from
Army Navy, and so like I'm walking through the streets
of New York, like all this luggage, trying to find
my way to the ceremony. Now again, like we didn't
really know if I was going to go, if I
wasn't going to go, so didn't have a hotel room situation.
So then I'm like, I call my boy Brandon Barrio
who works for LSU.
Speaker 2: He's there.
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, can I put myself in the room.
Can I change real quick, get into a suit and
hurry and get to the ceremony there. So I get
to the ceremony like right as they're about to announce
that Jaden's the winner. Right, So I'm like a little
sweaty panic and you know, one of those you showered,
but you're sweating more now because you showered. And then
finally like you know, been on a train and doing
other things. And so they changed up from how we
did it when Joe won to how Jay And I'm like,
I'm not gonna get this interview and they have sent
me here. I've gone trains, I've gone you know, planes.
I don't know there was a whole deal or whatever
because they changed it up. And Jaden's mom sees me
and was a p one of OTB and said, I
love listening to you and T Bob in the morning.
Y'all have always been fair to Jayden. We appreciate how
y'all have always you know, brought me, you know, the
whole deal.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, this is And so then this happened.
Speaker 3: Jaden walks by his mom just because he's gonna go
see his mom, and if that conversation wouldn't happen, I
probably never get to interact and get everything set up.
Speaker 4: We get the interview.
Speaker 3: It's quick, it's like five minute interview, but it's like
we were the only one that got an exclusive interview, right.
It's because Jaden's mom was a p one OTB listener
and he's so happened to be passing by then he
saw me. I was like, hey, Jayden, dou can we
go over? He's like, yeah, let's go knock it out.
And the Heisman people are like right there, and you know,
it's kind of like oh, because I'm a Heisman voter.
So I'm like, I don't want this to get taken
away either. I'm like, oh my god, sweaty, palm, sweaty.
I'm donna get mad at me.
Speaker 2: So Uh, they get taken away for I mean obviously
if you don't forget you got a relationship with Yeah,
I'm assuming that's what you're talking about, not because you
got got a little special treatment that I guess because
of the interview. But what do you.
Speaker 3: Think that they you know, to get an exclusive at
the ceremony with the Heisman Trophy winner, that typically cost
a lot to get that access.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So did Sirius end up just giving you that money? No?
Speaker 3: And just you know, you get a pat on the
back of being a great employee. You know, that's how
you and that's how you leverage like relationships and like
down the road if there's something you know, and that's
when I.
Speaker 2: Cashed it, that's when you cash it in catching those
brownie points. Yeah, so that is pretty awesome though you
got a I was I'd never been on train before,
but you had got you had done the interview with
Joe a couple of years. It was completely.
Speaker 3: Different, completely like it was, and at that time I
think the Heisman Trust wasn't like didn't do it the
way they do it now. So like we access for
being with series six M like hey, come in the
back and I got Coacho and I got Joe and
when it changed, we were all like, oh boy, this
is gonna be So. I bring all that up to say,
if your vision does come true, I'll be on a
train from Baltimore to New York, carrying my luggage through
the packed holiday times of New York City and we're
gonna talk to the nust bus after he wins another
Heisman trophy.
Speaker 2: Friendly. You could probably interview me too. I'm sure. I'm
sure Garrett will invite me for being like the original
bus driver. Don't you think maybe I've talked to him
like three four times, he'll probably invite me.
Speaker 3: Even if he doesn't he think he knows like I'm
the original bus driver. No, probably not, but but he
is coming on the show pretty soon.
Speaker 2: Perfect.
Speaker 3: I've already had that conversation with him. And despite you
being here, you say, still come.
Speaker 2: On, okay man. That really pisses me off about that
West Virginia player huss bus.
Speaker 4: I knew it would.
Speaker 3: God, when I saw that little nugget, I was like,
I gotta.
Speaker 2: Get see that guy. Hate him why he stole it? Yeah,
it's like trademark infringement. Suiss.
Speaker 3: When we come back, we're gonna talk about the bomb squad.
Speaker 2: What's the bomb squad?
Speaker 3: We'll tell you what it is and how long Flynn
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like the best one or two liners will make it
an intro.
Speaker 3: Ooh, that's actually a good idea, a great way to do.
Speaker 4: Let's don't celebrate it.
Speaker 3: It's a good idea to get you know, our listeners
they're always engaged. But you know what I mean engagement
with our listeners because you know, we do love the chat,
love the interaction, love them watching every single day. We've
got three hundred and sixty two watching live right now.
So shout out to everybody inside the chat. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: And I want to kind of like apologize to the
chat too. Last two days we haven't been engaged or
I haven't been engaged as much because the internet sucks.
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Speaker 2: No, what's bad for me?
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different computers today because YouTube won't pull up on one
of them.
Speaker 2: So like I faid to Kanda? What who forgot to?
The Internet's prety important these days for people to be
hearing us right now, Like what's happening? Gordy forgot to
pay the bill? You'd have loved it. So the week
before Jake.
Speaker 5: Was out, our laptops are me and Lodge's computers restarted
like five times during the show, just restarted.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like me during that library yesterday.
Speaker 3: Should you short Circuited?
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he ramps and so good. They have no idea what
we're talking about.
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Speaker 3: What what's our Wi Fi? Through a company? If you
say Cox, I'm gonna throw this down. You know, all right,
what's your beef man? You've never seen you you You've
sounded like you've been hurt. Well, I mean we all
know Devin snow like in his fight with Cox. But
I have so I have two different Wi fis in
my home. One is is Cox Wi Fi for the
boys and like the video games and everything, and then
I have like an AT and T Fiber for my
afternoon shows like that one can't mess up. And I
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AT and T is so much better than the COS
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So she's got a great WiFi in her room. It's
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in because even at my office where I have the
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Speaker 3: All right, people about the Bomb Squad, and it's hard
to judge a player based off of that.
Speaker 4: And so what we mean in.
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's like not hating on the players
because we were part of it. But when I was
a freshman, when I was a sophomore, I was I
was lucky enough to be like the starting fullback, right,
But if I wanted to get carries, like actual real
carries at running back, it's gonna be with Flynn and
the Bomb Squad.
Speaker 2: Like we're all gonna be in there together, no doubt.
Speaker 3: And you're playing against North Texas and it's like forty
five to three, right, and there's about thirty thousand people
left in the stadium.
Speaker 2: Let's rip it. Let's rip it.
Speaker 3: But also, let's don't judge this player off of this,
because that is not the same situation as if you
were to walk into that stadium at the time ninety
two thousand, zero to zero score with I look up
and you know, I've got Will Arnold, and Andrew Whitworth
and Nate Livings and whoever whoever the offensive line were.
When I go in there, it's I'm not gonna say names,
but it's like ye walk on a walk on. Yeah,
So it's different, and I do feel like people, you know,
nuss Meyer probably one of them, you were one of them.
Whoever the backup quarterback is, is going to be one
of those guys that gets judged based off that situation
when in reality it's not related to whoever the starter is.
Speaker 2: So one of the worst experiences quarterback. I'm gonna say
it from a quarterbacks perspective, but for everybody is getting
thrown in the game at the end when the game's
already been decided, whether it's whether you're winning or whether
you're losing. If the game's been decided, you do not
want to go in because you know I you know
that there is an eye in the sky and it
is filming everything you're doing, so you're putting game film
on tape, and you don't want that game because you
don't want to go in the game, like you've been
sitting there for three or four hours, your ice cold,
your mind's not in the game anymore because like y'all
been destroying this team the whole time, so you're barely
even like listening anymore. You're cold. You go in the
game and you're like, man, just like, don't make me
throw the ball. I don't want to do it. I
don't want to be judged right now. I hadn't prepared,
I hadn't taken a snap. We took some scout team
reps right all week.
Speaker 4: That's actually another great point.
Speaker 2: You took some scout ting reps. I emulated the other quarterback.
So like when US two years ago and Jaden was
a senior, he went in and he didn't look great, right,
he didn't look great during his mop up time, and
you get judged. So you shouldn't judge if you go
out and look really good. So you brought up North Texas.
We went in North Texas. I think I threw three
touchdowns in the fourth quarter mop up duty. Yeah, you
shouldn't judge me by that game. And oh, this guy's
the greatest ever. Yeah, I never thought that about you. Well, obviously,
but I think the same year or maybe as the
next year we're going into we're playing Missipi State at home.
I think it was a Jefferson pile again. Oh it
was hotter than hot, harder than was that two thousand
It was two thousand and five or six? It was
six because I was playing running back. You're right, all right,
So this is after like the year before i'd played well,
played in the Peach Bowl blob. So yeah, yeah, asmar
as the last year, we're beating the breaks off Mississippi State.
And then there's this one play. For like three years,
I've told Jim Bow I don't like this play. I
don't like this play. I don't like this play. It's
called razor rub. The stupidest play in the history of
the world. I knew exactly, okay, was like a spread
out to the right way, was like spread out to
the least razor rub and it was just like this
little rub play and he goes to the flat because
I'll see you all the time, like the hardest boat
for people to make. The quarterback to make someone wide open,
and a throw that like you're gonna look stupid if
you miss it. Razor rub from underneath the center too.
Not even a gun take it. So you have to
like you have to like make a big arc, get
to your like fifth step and throat. And I hate
the play. Well, get in the game, run the ball
two times in a row, third and three or four.
I'm looking over the sile of the signals and I
see y'all listening Razor like raizor your face and then
rubbing my hands together, and I'm like mother water yeah,
and I'm like, god, I'm the backup. I can't change
the play. No, I'm not like Jameis Winston out there.
I did the hot and I'm like and they can
see the panic in my face. Razor rub got it down,
set hut pick six. It was a big six. So
I get on the I get to the sideline. I
believe it's a pixis checking all that. And we were
like in our own territory too.
Speaker 4: Mm.
Speaker 2: I walked back. I walked back. I jogged to the sideline.
Then I walked to the bench and I sit down
and you hear the phone's ringing the sideline. It was Jimbo. Yeah,
oh god, he let me have real good you know what.
The worst part is yes, win the next series went
in the game, but the starter.
Speaker 4: Back in the game, that's not that's never good.
Speaker 3: I mean you you were probably in there's probably you,
Mick Cole at tight end, probably j Mitch and Chris
Mitch a receiver. And that's so that's one of the
combinations of Chuck Scott and Keelan.
Speaker 2: What made Jimbo just such like a unicorn of a
coach is he could get after you blah blah blah.
And I always said that about It's like he would
put a string of cuss words together that like didn't
blow your mind. But then he'd put his arm around
you while you're walking off the field. He would so
lit me up. Then I went back in the game
after JaMarcus went in there blah blah blah. But after
the game he looks at me, he's like he laughs,
He's like Raisor Rev. Yeah you He's like, yeah, like
you know what, Yeah, I can't get rid of that
film I ever in my life.
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to bring up Razor Rub with him
next time because we always thirty five pin Indy and
all all these plays Razor Rub, you knew it?
Speaker 2: Who was who was doing the signals?
Speaker 4: Was it? Uh? Was it?
Speaker 2: Oh? What do you have been? Tracy?
Speaker 4: What are you?
Speaker 2: Tracy? Tracy was definitely five, was he? I don't know.
Speaker 3: Tracy's like a big time NFL coach now and what
he's a head coach at Morehead State.
Speaker 2: Tracy Smith who his dad was Carl Smith, a K tater. Yeah,
it was my quarterback coach and Seattle one of the
greatest humans. Yeah, Tracy is great too. He was a
Seattle too, wasn't he. That's something? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Uh, Anthony Ronado is going to join us.
We're gonna talk baseball. We're gonna talk trading cards because well,
Flynn got me into this, and now I've got to
figure out a way to ask somebody better questions because
Flynn never has the answers.
Speaker 4: We'll do it when we come back here on OTV.
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Speaker 1: Locked in on LSU Football twenty four to seven. You're
listening to Off the Bench.
Speaker 3: Uh, definitely not locked in LSU football here in this segment.
That is not what we're going to talk about. Big voice,
Lady Anthony Ornado is joining us right now, so we're
gonna talk baseball. We're gonna talk trading cards because well,
Anthony Flynn got me deep in this deal.
Speaker 4: It's his fall. No matter what happens, it is all
on him.
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, you're gonna blame my kid
on this one.
Speaker 4: That's a that's a heavy disclaimer because you could get
deep into this and he yeah, ugly, don't let him
blame you don't.
Speaker 2: Accept don't accept that liability. Okay.
Speaker 4: Actually, since you blame Huck, I'm gonna blame Hunk too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna play Houck. And then I'm gonna blame
guys over cards and cultures too. We went over there,
I brought my son. I was like, we'll just go
get a pack of cards. I did baseball cards. We
went over there, it gets a deck of We get
a box of cards like the Rookies and Stars. The
first time out shut your mouth. And then he pulls
like some really cool like lading the Donkey, like autographed
patch card and yeah yeah, Like my son's like, oh,
that's so cool. Then all the guys that were working there,
they were so fired up, and it was like I
was like all right, so like it's like what does that?
What does that mean? Yeah? What does this mean? It
might be worth you know, hundred bucks or whatever. It is,
and I'm like, it might be worth a hundred bucks,
all right, I like, not bad. I'm in. Okay, We're
kind of in. So after that point we started doing
a little bit more. Then we start we created like
a little like a little father son business about we
love the little eBay account, sell a couple of cards,
some singles sell it for more. How old is he?
He's nine? Okay.
Speaker 4: See this is literally why one of them I told
you this. You came into the shop with your boys.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: One of my favorite things when I started the shop
was really teaching kids about business economics and like it
was like one of business one on one right, supplying
kid gets excited about a one dollar Yannis card and
he's like it's Yannis It's and You're like, hey, buddy,
let me teach you about people don't want this card
so it's not worth that much, right, like, and you
have to And that's basically what you're doing. You're using
these cards to teach them that. It was like one
of the coolest things that I realized we were doing
in the shop too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's kind of why we kept going. And
we set up like the little account on to sell
card because We had been talking for a couple of
months about doing He's nine, his sisters his sister's seven
and four. Weird think about doing like a lemonade stand.
And I'd already talked him everything about like here's your
cost of goods for the lemonade, powder, the water, the ice,
like everything you gotta you know, it costs taxes on
business those part of things. And I was like, well,
I can do the same thing, but we can also.
Speaker 4: Rip some cards and have fun. And it's literally the best.
It's like you get to be a kid again. And
that's but at the same time, right, You're like, hey, buddy,
I know you sold this card for twenty but we
paid ten dollars for it. You see the shipping label.
That costs money too. We had to drive to the
post office, right buddy. Right, Yeah, that's right, cost gas,
cost money.
Speaker 2: To get there. Right.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's good, oh man, But you're right, though,
there's not a better feeling. Like he's got me on
these live breaks and I'm like, Betty, you know, auctioning
for this team or whatever, and like you had this
team that nobody wanted and you're just like hoping, like okay,
nobody thought this team was.
Speaker 2: Going to have something.
Speaker 3: Now I got the Tennessee Titans, and oh my gun,
there's like a warn moon there the Titans.
Speaker 4: I know that you can't fool me. They didn't go
to the Texans. How deep are you in it? Like
are you checking checklists before you get into breaks? Because
that's when you really know you're starting to one get
a little bit more advanced, but also getting to be
a little bit.
Speaker 2: Better than just like the checklists of like what that
brand has.
Speaker 3: Because step that I'm at right now, we're starting that
price a little bit.
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit ahead of take a little So.
Speaker 4: That's when you really start getting into it, is you're
like to your point, right, wait this tops chrome product.
Ken Griofy Junior signs in, so wait, yeah, the Mariners
spot should be this right. Oh wow, this place doesn't
know that, like and you go and grab that spot
right right, because like right now we're you know, we're
doing football. We're big meatheads and so we're doing football
and it's like, you know, the Commanders and the Patriots
and like they're gonna be big dollar Broncos.
Speaker 3: But it's like okay, yeah, but the Bucks got a
couple of rookies. The Chargers got a couple of rookies.
They're going to kind of be in the mid level there,
but maybe you'll get a Herbert or maybe you'll get
a Baker because they got that available here too. It's like, man,
I didn't I didn't realize all the science, like the
things that kind of go into science.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I call it calculated risk because like really, to
your point, right, you could chase a rookie and they
even though maybe the quarterbacks signed eight autographs in that
product for some reason, so that actually team should be
worth more.
Speaker 2: That's when it gets super fun.
Speaker 4: I always call it calculated risk, so you can just
break up and figure out what you want to collect,
where your value is, and then go.
Speaker 2: From It's kind of like another way to scratch the
like this the gambling. It's a little bit I mean
like ripping a absolutely, I tell you what, speculated risk
is a good way to put it.
Speaker 3: You never lose, and you're at least holding something like
sports betting, like you know me, like I'll certainly dabble
on sports betting. Dude, I haven't, like I don't even
haven't picked up in a walk.
Speaker 2: So I'm like.
Speaker 4: Like it does, and it really is. Did you see
our new set piece? I did notice how much stuff
you guys have up here.
Speaker 2: But found this baby. Wow.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, do you guys remember signing these because these are
not stickers, these.
Speaker 4: Are on card right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't remember, like specifically, maybe that one,
but I don't remember.
Speaker 2: I remember signing like I remember. I remember.
Speaker 3: I was so when I was training out in Arizona
at Api and Timpe. I remember them coming to UH
to the apartment and sign them. I remember going to
places like, hey, if you sign all of these, you
get a free TV. It's like a thirty two inch TV.
I'm like, oh my god, oh yes, I'm in college.
Thirty two inch flat it is a flat screen. Right
when we had it was all the big boxes. I
was like, yeah, like i'll do it. I'll do it
right now. So I definitely remember. And then people come
to your house and then watching you because they want
to make sure you're signing up.
Speaker 2: But that was one thing that people like. So when
you get like the Jersey patches less like when they
come to your house and watch you sign, So you
sit there and sign four thousand stickers whatever, it is
and it got from upper at the time, like upper back,
top whatever it is. But then they're like, all right,
here's like twenty jerseys. Just put them on. I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: That's the crazy. That is crazy, they say. Nowadays they
just make guys put them all on at once, like
eighty of them and then take them all off and
then their game play exactly.
Speaker 3: That was.
Speaker 2: That was pretty wild.
Speaker 3: That is I'm like, our cellonies is like, warn like,
what did you wear them?
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, okay, yeah, we are what we're doing. Oh
my gosh, what do you brought in? Like I'll have
to show you. So that that's the difference.
Speaker 2: I have a I have a really cool Victor.
Speaker 4: H is just perked up my heart. Actually, just look
at that eight. So this one's really cool. This is
by a company. I gotta shout out the company. It's
called Vaulted. So they actually you can see they put
my little you know, signature on my name and everything,
and the other one has my little like social media
handle and these are like.
Speaker 2: Spots I can.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like a fish you can put like
cards in the fronts or whatever.
Speaker 2: That's cool. I just set my first like group of
cards to get great and let's go, who'd you send
it to us? A nice?
Speaker 4: Is there a like companies?
Speaker 3: I was about to say, like, is there one that
like you prefers or one better than the other.
Speaker 4: So PSA is kind of the gold standard and it
kind of commands the most market value.
Speaker 2: But you see this one.
Speaker 4: The reason I want to show you guys that one
says it's from his debut game, like his acuah, it's
actually yeah, that's a game warn from a specific So
basically you might one hold onto this puppet. This one's
probably a couple of thousand dollars right now or something
like that. But that game used and it's from a
specific game. So if you like look at Lebron James's
history and this this is where we go. Why I
say it's calculated risk, right because I look at it
as like an actual alternative investment, the same way you
would invest in real estate or jewelry or art, right
other things like Lebron James's game used Rookie patch Jersey.
Right now, that's an autograph numbered out of twenty three
because it was Upper Deck Exquisite. It was like six set, right,
it's like one hundred grand yeah literally, right, So like
that's the kind of stuff that holds value over time, right,
and I'm hoping that his career Victor Lebron to work,
Yeah exactly, and if it does, that card could be
something like that now again in twenty years, like the
value of the dollar, right and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Right, but still that's a really good appreciation.
Speaker 3: In fifteen years, Anthony's gonna come do the show and
he's gonna have that same case handcuff.
Speaker 2: Though. Have you seen the way they.
Speaker 4: Deliver some of these cards down It's like brins trucks
and like security.
Speaker 2: Like you have to like Paul that's got a Pokemon
on a necklace. Ye, right. With Anthony's answer, I don't
think he liked that necklace very much. It was just
the industry just gets that.
Speaker 4: So like you know, actually like the Paul's do anything
and it's like it's lights and igniter on things, and
it's like now people think that values are inflated when
they're not and all.
Speaker 2: That, you know.
Speaker 4: All right, last one before we get to a break
and certainly hit up some LSU baseball, I've got a
question from Abo inside of the chat.
Speaker 3: What's the most expensive card? You've ever held in your hand.
Speaker 4: I actually did get to hold the Paul Schemes one
of one debut patch. That's right, I actually sell the videos.
Tops flew me up there. It was Yeah, they flew
me up to the vault and they wanted me to
do some marketing around it. So yeah, I got some
cool pictures and held it, went into the vault and everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Did you think about running for a little bit? You know, no,
because it was weird in Oregon.
Speaker 4: I was like and like, I would have never got far,
So I didn't think about it. But I was like,
this can't be the act this is and they told
me that it's underground and like I was like this
is Like there was good stuff there, but it wasn't
like the high end, high end stuff.
Speaker 2: What did that card end up selling for? Yeah? When
one one point one?
Speaker 4: I think Dix in Pittsburgh, right, Dix bought it. Yeah,
okay for their new their new launch. I don't know
if you've seen, like they're like it's like a new
like brand that they're doing, like this like forward facing thing,
but they have a big collectible section now.
Speaker 2: It's like that was like their big splash.
Speaker 3: Maybe they can buy the pirates and players, so Paul
Schemes doesn't go like eight and give up one and
run and came up.
Speaker 4: Maybe that can happen.
Speaker 3: All right, We'll take a break some ELSU baseball with
Anthony when we come back here on OTV.
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Speaker 1: Five, two thousand and seven Champs Purple and Gold to
the core. This is off the bench with Hester and Flynn.
Baton Rougees go to for all things Louisiana sports.
Speaker 3: All right, and welcome back in ot B LSU hosting
West Virginia in a super regional and well the regional
had all the drama.
Speaker 2: It was actually fantastic.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Little Rocker one more time for coming
in here and playing their butts off. But the goal
was to have a super regional here in Baton Rouge
Obviously last year got really really close. What happened down
there or up there in Chapel Hill. You know you
you're a couple outs away, so you wanted to get
back to that point. This year they do and look,
I know this team had to fight, scratch and claw
to get out of the regional. But that little rock
team and we see it every year, they got hotter
than hot at the end, and they had true belief.
And so again shout out to them. But that's not
to say, in my opinion, Lease Anthony, that LSU's limping
into this super regional.
Speaker 2: Not at all.
Speaker 4: I think you guys know this right, when a team
is hot and when the energy is right in a
stadium and they come into a stadium and the fans
are on their heels a little bit right, like they
turned they almost turned a double play on Stanfield and
like the fourth or fifth inning, and I was like,
that was a major league double play attempt on like
not an easy ball in the whole that short stuff
played like he was the best short stuff right and
centerfielder did it too. They got at too much. They
got that hit five hundred or whatever he was about
in two forty on the year seven bolts Like he's
not a great hitter. I'm not trying to hate on him,
but yeah, these dudes were playing great. So no, I
say LSU had a tough go at it right with
a great team at the time, So I think they battled.
I think it showed what this team is capable of
they can win close games, they can be battle tested, right,
and they can do what they need to do.
Speaker 2: And I think the pitching just speaks for itself.
Speaker 3: So does that pitching set up better for a super
regional than it does a regional when you have the
best one to two punch in America?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, that's and that's the best thing, right is
you got your Friday night ace to go out there
and hopefully you win that game. And either way, right,
if you lose that one, you have one A, one B,
whoever it is, in that next game. And if you're
if you've won, you got your best pitcher on the
mat or one of your best pitchers.
Speaker 2: To go close that out. Yeah, absolutely for sure.
Speaker 3: And then something else we were talking about is if
you get to a game three situation, we all were
in the belief that Cason Evans would start the game.
You go with that count and he's got experience on
Friday nights and he's been in big games, didn't have
his best stuff, hasn't had his best stuff in a while.
But Cason Evans coming in in the way that he
shut the door out, I mean that was electric. So
if you get to a game three. What do you
think happens now compared to what happened in the regional Well, it.
Speaker 4: Also kind of worked, So I mean, I know that
we got the way right, so, like the dude had
a legendary performance, so maybe we.
Speaker 2: Just do that, right.
Speaker 3: I know we started talking in circles earlier in the show,
but that's what I'm the same way.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I was questioning it too, and and then
you know, I'm like, all right, well he probably went
with Cohen exactly for your reason, right, like experience as
a starter, he probably was gonna you knew he was
gonna throw more strikes and after the game before, when
you had that three nothing lead and then you walk
guys and give that let them back in the game.
I'm sure that's what Jay was going for. So but
I think Caseon Evans has proved that he is a
dude like he can be a number one starting pitcher,
like he can. That set him up for next year.
I think, you know, to be our Friday guy. So
we want him to start feel good about him starting Sunday.
But he comes out of the pen like he did. Yeah,
I mean, we got options. So the kids lecture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he came, everything changed the feel I watched
it from telling like the feeling my house changed like
when he came. So I can imagine what it was
in the stadium, Like from your experience, can you if
you're that good coming out of the pen, can you
emulate that energy as a starter the same way?
Speaker 4: And yeah, and I think at the college level too,
it's it's a little bit more appropriate because like there's
just everything matters so much more than the big leagues
and stuff like that. Right when you're just like, all right,
we got one hundred and sixty two games. I'm doing
this every five days like you can. So I think
you saw that. And he changed the energy of the
game by his pace, his tone. You saw he was
waiting on the mountain. He's like, give me the ball back,
and they were trying to slow the game down. You
could feel it if he's like, I want to get
you guys back in the dugout to get this going
and keep this crowd into it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he just got to have that same mentality
as a starter. All Right, I don't know your schedule.
Can you stick around one more segment?
Speaker 2: Nothing else to do? All right?
Speaker 3: Well, we are hanging for one more segment. We're actually
gonna bring back a segment that I love as well.
Would you rather Wednesday? It's gonna be a sports edition.
Flynn's sweating already, knowing he's got to come.
Speaker 2: Up with a question. I can't get come up with
the questions.
Speaker 3: Jeez, it's our radio show, that's gpt ay.
Speaker 2: He's already gotta pulled up.
Speaker 3: So you're gonna hear from Chat GPT from Flynn when
we come back on the bench.