Speaker 1: And here we go. Welcome to the Big Podcast. Happy
Speaker 1: Wednesday to you on this twenty second day of October,
Speaker 1: Year of our War twenty twenty five. My name is
Speaker 1: Tom Sullivan and got a lot today. Busy day. Jen
Speaker 1: Saki the former press secretary for Joe Biden. She's stuck
Speaker 1: her foot in her mouth again. We'll get you updated
Speaker 1: on the shutdown today's day twenty two, other than you
Speaker 1: federal employees out there, which will get you an updated
Speaker 1: on that. I still haven't had any issues, but I'm
Speaker 1: not relying upon the federal government for my paycheck. Ukraine
Speaker 1: update there, Hamas update there. There was a raid ice
Speaker 1: ray in Chinatown in New York City last night. That
Speaker 1: needs to be explained as well. And I also need
Speaker 1: to explain one other thing. Yesterday I was telling you
Speaker 1: about the White House and about the fact that they're
Speaker 1: going to tear down the East wing and build the ballroom,
Speaker 1: and I was lamenting the fact that I've owned a
Speaker 1: lot of commercial property over the years, and so I'm
Speaker 1: very sensitive to tenants doing going beyond what they're allowed
Speaker 1: to do. You can't tear down walls. You can you
Speaker 1: can decorate, you can even paint. You can do a
Speaker 1: lot of things, but just if you're renting someplace and
Speaker 1: you're a tenant, there are restrictions. The owner is the
Speaker 1: person that gets to decide whether you're going to do
Speaker 1: major renovation. So my gut reaction, my first reaction is
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a tenant at the White House. It's
Speaker 1: the people's house. He's only there for four years and
Speaker 1: that's it. Then we're going to pass it on to
Speaker 1: somebody else. I know, maybe, but no, I believe that
Speaker 1: that will pass it on to somebody else. But the
Speaker 1: more I read about it, and the media is going
Speaker 1: crazy today over this whole thing because they are the
Speaker 1: first of all, they don't like Donald Trump. And I'm sure,
Speaker 1: I absolutely am positive that this ballroom, when it is
Speaker 1: built and completed, it will be beautiful. It will be
Speaker 1: an extension off to the east side of the White
Speaker 1: House between the White House and the Treasury to apartment,
Speaker 1: and it will look beautiful. They're not going to do
Speaker 1: a sloppy job.
Speaker 2: It's just.
Speaker 1: When Harry Truman had had to go through and renovate
Speaker 1: the White House because it was falling down from age.
Speaker 1: He went to Congress, and Congress set up a commission
Speaker 1: to make sure and oversee what they were doing. It
Speaker 1: just seems like this is since this isn't his house.
Speaker 1: I wish he would have gone through the people. The
Speaker 1: people is the house of representatives? Is we the people?
Speaker 1: But in any case, I'm sure it's going to turn
Speaker 1: out fine. But the media is just having cows about
Speaker 1: it today. The shutdown. Let's go there. Let's start with
Speaker 1: that day twenty two. I've got a few things on that.
Speaker 1: There's a John Fetterman weighs in on that whole thing.
Speaker 1: Harry Entton has a little bit of a of a
Speaker 1: polling idea on it. But federal and employees are hurting,
Speaker 1: there's no question about it. And what it really says
Speaker 1: is it's not about federal employees. It's about Americans.
Speaker 2: People.
Speaker 1: A large, large percentage of our population lives paycheck to
Speaker 1: paycheck and if you don't have a paycheck coming in,
Speaker 1: what are you going to do? So it is a
Speaker 1: real burden on these people. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to criticize them. What most people live
Speaker 1: that way. Yes it's wrong, Yes it should. You should
Speaker 1: have some sort of backup supply. When my oldest son
Speaker 1: went into the working for the airlines. I said, you know,
Speaker 1: the airlines have strike sun They go on strike every
Speaker 1: so often. If I were you, I would put a
Speaker 1: little money aside every month, so you had a strike fund. Well,
Speaker 1: it used to be where people that went to work
Speaker 1: for the government because of job secured. In fact, let
Speaker 1: me play this montage. One of the people that is
Speaker 1: talking about this today is basically saying, yeah, I went
Speaker 1: to the government for employment because of exactly that job security.
Speaker 1: So this is a group of government employees at a
Speaker 1: food closet of food. They were in line to get
Speaker 1: food at a food bank in Maryland.
Speaker 3: It's really no words.
Speaker 4: It's like, wow, I can't believe I'm here, you know,
Speaker 4: because you always thought that getting that government job, or
Speaker 4: you know, a federal job, that's security, and.
Speaker 2: It's not. This is very important.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, if my rent due next week,
Speaker 5: I can take anything I can get.
Speaker 2: At this point, I haven't gotten a paycheck this month.
Speaker 2: It's overwhelming. It's overwhelming.
Speaker 6: There are at least two to three hundred people in
Speaker 6: this line that we're servicing today, federal employees.
Speaker 2: It's mind boggling.
Speaker 7: I'm really concerned because I know that with this current
Speaker 7: administration our food bank has not seen as much food
Speaker 7: and now seeing the need today and with our current
Speaker 7: population that we already serve him from the community add
Speaker 7: no instead of workers on. In my mind, I'm really
Speaker 7: trying to figure out how we're going to meet this need.
Speaker 1: Yet you hear that last guy who's running the food
Speaker 1: kitchen had to take a swipe at this administration. But
Speaker 1: it's Maryland, Northern Northern well western Maryland and northern Virginia
Speaker 1: are right on the cusp of the border of Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. So there's a lot of government employees in
Speaker 1: both of those states. John Fetterman, Senator from Pennsylvania, he
Speaker 1: was asked about all of this, about the shutdown, and
Speaker 1: of course they had to ask him who's to blame.
Speaker 8: Well, of course you would make a difference. I mean
Speaker 8: he he's the decider in this situation. Ultimately, he has
Speaker 8: to decide what we want to do moving forward in
Speaker 8: this situation. I think they're collectively at this point, I
Speaker 8: just want to get the government open. At this point,
Speaker 8: it's not blaming or who's winning or who's losing, because
Speaker 8: the guarantee who is losing, and that's Americans. Right now,
Speaker 8: I am now fighting to opening because of the two
Speaker 8: million Pennsylvanians that are on SNAP and those funds are
Speaker 8: running out. Two million people in Pennsylvania depend on this
Speaker 8: to feed themselves and their family. Compare that to four
Speaker 8: hundred and twenty thousand Pennsylvanians that receive one of those
Speaker 8: tax credits for health insurance that I fully support extending
Speaker 8: those two now. I'm fighting for them both, and those
Speaker 8: both can occur if we open the government, because it's
Speaker 8: a fundamentally wrong to shut our government down. I don't
Speaker 8: care if it's a Republican's doing that or my own
Speaker 8: party doing in those things. I think that's the truth
Speaker 8: that our government must be open and we can negotiate
Speaker 8: all of these very important kinds of priorities. I would
Speaker 8: like people to understand two million Pennsylvanians that depend on SNAP,
Speaker 8: they're going to stop because of this shutdown, and that's
Speaker 8: an alarm for me, and that's why we have to
Speaker 8: cut this and we have to open it and figure
Speaker 8: out a way forward. I do believe Leader Thune is
Speaker 8: an honorable man, and I do believe we can have
Speaker 8: a serious, sincere conversation to extend these things. And I
Speaker 8: am very proud as a Democrat. I believe two things
Speaker 8: must be true that we can negotiate and figure out,
Speaker 8: because I don't want anyone to get slammed by these
Speaker 8: kinds of increases for health insurance. But I also want
Speaker 8: to make sure people are fed and our government open.
Speaker 8: And because I'm also going to be on the side
Speaker 8: of paying the military, I'm always going to be on
Speaker 8: the side to paying the Capitol police that protect us
Speaker 8: all of us here every day. Now, it's a loser
Speaker 8: for America to have our government shut.
Speaker 1: Because what I got what I took away from John
Speaker 1: Fetterman where he was talking about the two million people
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania that rely upon food stamps and also a
Speaker 1: huge number of people that rely upon government subsidies for
Speaker 1: their health insurance. You know, it wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 1: It was a generation or so ago that those programs
Speaker 1: did not exist. My parents didn't have anything like that.
Speaker 1: They didn't have food stamps, they did not have where
Speaker 1: they went. People that did not have money because of
Speaker 1: an emergency went to their family or friends or their
Speaker 1: house of worship. That's where they got help. They did
Speaker 1: not go to the government. But as the government has
Speaker 1: rolled out all these programs. Millions of people now rely
Speaker 1: upon them and that's the way they lived their lives.
Speaker 1: They budgeted for money from the government to help them
Speaker 1: pay their bills. And I mean, I started off this
Speaker 1: this podcast today with the government employees that are saying
Speaker 1: that they're in lines getting food because they live paycheck
Speaker 1: to paycheck, and it is what it is. But it's
Speaker 1: absurd that this is where our country is financially. It's sad,
Speaker 1: it's absurd, it's all of the above. But back to
Speaker 1: John Fetterman, because of the fact that he's a maverick
Speaker 1: and he doesn't follow the rules of being a Democrat.
Speaker 1: Fellow Democrats in the state of Pennsylvania. Brendan Boyle is
Speaker 1: a congressman there and he is not happy that John
Speaker 1: Fetterman doesn't march to the tune of the Democrat drum.
Speaker 9: Well, you know, unfortunately, at this point I'm no longer
Speaker 9: surprised by anything John Fetterman does. Let's not forget he
Speaker 9: was the only Democrat right after the election to immediately
Speaker 9: fly tomar a lago and kiss the ring. And he
Speaker 9: has acted accordingly over the last year in much the
Speaker 9: same way.
Speaker 1: So there's your typical elected rep Presentative. That is politics
Speaker 1: is everything. And John Fetterman, God bless the man. I
Speaker 1: know he's had his struggles, but he puts he puts
Speaker 1: issues about the people above his party.
Speaker 8: Primarily concerned about the two million Pennsylvanians that depend on
Speaker 8: SNAP to feed themselves in their families. I'm absolutely worried
Speaker 8: about paying the military and Epitol police in opening our
Speaker 8: government open. And That's what I'm really concerned about.
Speaker 1: So Fetterman was asked, is he going to remain a Democrat?
Speaker 8: One thousand percent? One thousand percent? And that's really strange?
Speaker 8: Can we talk about it? You know, I'm not changing
Speaker 8: my party. I've been very committed to doing those things.
Speaker 8: You know, I'm a Democrat, but I represent thirteen million
Speaker 8: Pennsylvanians and I'm going to fight for all of them,
Speaker 8: regardless of what their parties are. So I'm in the
Speaker 8: middle of it. I'm going to choose. I'm always going
Speaker 8: to vote country over party. I'm always going to vote
Speaker 8: over paying the military over my party. You know, I'm
Speaker 8: always going to vote for the two million Pennsylvanias that
Speaker 8: depend on SNAP over party. And I'm not changing my
Speaker 8: party because I might happen to disagree with parts of
Speaker 8: my own parties right now.
Speaker 1: I wish there were more John Fetterman's in Congress. He
Speaker 1: truly does have his priorities on the people that he
Speaker 1: represents at, not the games that the political parties represent.
Speaker 1: Harry Entton the Statistician took a look at the whole
Speaker 1: shutdown business.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I'm going to quote the great scholar
Speaker 10: Billy Preston, nothing from nothing leaves nothing. What are we
Speaker 10: talking about here, Well, nothing's getting done in Congress. But
Speaker 10: the truth is, if you look back at congresses at
Speaker 10: this point in a presidency, we were already dealing with
Speaker 10: a historically unpopular Congress.
Speaker 3: Anyway, at this point of presidency, we have only got in.
Speaker 11: This, get this, just thirty six, just thirty six laws,
Speaker 11: actually signs thirty six bills signing the law. That is
Speaker 11: the fewest, the fewest at this point in any presidency
Speaker 11: dating back since nineteen one hundred and fifty three, way
Speaker 11: less than the median of eighty seven. And so the
Speaker 11: bottom line is, nothing's getting done in Congress right now,
Speaker 11: but nothing was getting getting done in Congress right now.
Speaker 3: So what difference does it make?
Speaker 2: Anyway?
Speaker 3: I think in the minds of a lot of the American.
Speaker 10: But because the bottom line is bills and resolutions passed
Speaker 10: throughout full congresses, you go back basically since nineteen hundred
Speaker 10: and seventy three, the fewest two hundred and seventy four,
Speaker 10: that was the last Congress. And get this, I went
Speaker 10: back even further. I jumped in that delarean time machine.
Speaker 10: You could go back all the way to the Civil
Speaker 10: War and you wouldn't find a Congress that was less
Speaker 10: productive than the last one.
Speaker 3: The median four hundred and seventy eight.
Speaker 10: You don't have to be a mathematical scholar to know
Speaker 10: that two hundred and seventy four is way less than
Speaker 10: four to seventy eight. We're talking about two hundred fewer
Speaker 10: laws passed and signed than the media who is getting blamed.
Speaker 10: You know, we speak about the fact that this Congress
Speaker 10: not necessarily doing so much. Obviously that might lay at
Speaker 10: the hands of that Republican House. But here's the nugget
Speaker 10: to take away. Take Donald Trump out of the equation
Speaker 10: to blame for the shutdown. Here it is fifty percent
Speaker 10: Republicans leading that forty three percent Democrats. This is the
Speaker 10: rare poll where you don't want to lead, and in
Speaker 10: this particular case, the GOP in Congress.
Speaker 3: Is leading the blame game.
Speaker 10: And more than that, I will note the one big
Speaker 10: thing that they passed was, of course, the big beautiful bill,
Speaker 10: and that remains underwater at this point by more than
Speaker 10: ten points. I was just looking at the average of polls.
Speaker 10: So the bottom line is they're winning the blame game,
Speaker 10: but they're losing on the bill that, of course they're
Speaker 10: essentially betting their stakes on in this Congress, of actually
Speaker 10: getting exactly right no matter where you turn, no matter
Speaker 10: which way the world turns. Everything this GOP Congress has
Speaker 10: done is basically been unpopular, whether they're doing it or.
Speaker 3: Not so well.
Speaker 1: I like, Harriet seems like a nice enough guy, but
Speaker 1: I he's just giving the facts, but he's like, he's
Speaker 1: complaining about the fact that Congress has only passed thirty
Speaker 1: what do you say, thirty seven bills? And I'm going, good, great,
Speaker 1: the fewer the better. This is like golf. The lower
Speaker 1: that they do, they win. In my book, just quit
Speaker 1: writing all these laws, to just stop doing all the
Speaker 1: silly business, and just stick with the big important issues
Speaker 1: facing our country. So Congress isn't doing much. They're shut down. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. I well, I hope they don't
Speaker 1: write many more bills when they come back. In fact,
Speaker 1: they should be done for the year. I hope. And
Speaker 1: as far as the Big Beautiful Bill is concerned, I
Speaker 1: get what Harry's talking about. A lot of people are
Speaker 1: looking at going, man, that's a lot of spending. But
Speaker 1: you watch what happens when we get the tax time
Speaker 1: next spring. There's a lot of tax benefits in that
Speaker 1: bill that people are going to go.
Speaker 2: Oh oh.
Speaker 1: I kind of like this thing. So it's too soon
Speaker 1: to judge the Big Beautiful Bill, but it was a
Speaker 1: lot of spending. Let's do overseas. Let's talk about Ukraine.
Speaker 1: This is getting to be crazy because the president sounds
Speaker 1: like he has decided to do a one to eighty.
Speaker 1: He was all ready to uh, well, I told you
Speaker 1: last Friday he met with Zolensky. It did not go well.
Speaker 1: Zelensky wanted tomahawk missiles. Trump sounded like he was ready
Speaker 1: to give him tomahawk muscles so he could properly defend
Speaker 1: and go on an offense against the Russian army. And
Speaker 1: Putin called and the next thing. You know, those Tomahawk
Speaker 1: missiles are temporarily on hold. So Brett McGirk as this
Speaker 1: assessment about what's going on with the US and Ukraine.
Speaker 12: And President Zelensky is accepting a proposal from the Americans
Speaker 12: freeze the lines, let's have a cease fire. He's clearly
Speaker 12: accepting that. And what is Vladimir Putin doing. He is
Speaker 12: overseeing nuclear exercises, including the test of the yards missile,
Speaker 12: which can fly seven thousand miles. Putin does not do
Speaker 12: anything by chance. He is signaling that he is prepared
Speaker 12: to escalate this conflict. I think that is obviously what
Speaker 12: he's doing. A couple of things going on, though, Sarah.
Speaker 12: EU leaders will get together tomorrow to consider a proposal
Speaker 12: to basically use Russian assets that are frozen in European
Speaker 12: banks as collateral for a loan to Ukraine. That's a
Speaker 12: very important initiative, I think something United States can get
Speaker 12: behind to put more pressure on Russia. The President, of
Speaker 12: course has called on the EU to do more. That's good,
Speaker 12: and the President's meeting today with the NATO Secretary General.
Speaker 12: Bottom line, president in the US trying to get the
Speaker 12: pieces together for a ceasefire, to stop this war. But
Speaker 12: that's going to require some deliver pressure on the Russians,
Speaker 12: and once again Putin is saying he's not ready to
Speaker 12: do that. So that's where we stand. It's where we've
Speaker 12: been for the last nine or ten months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems to me that Putin really does not
Speaker 1: want to solve this war with Ukraine. He wants to
Speaker 1: take Ukraine. He wants the whole thing. He's a maximalist.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to do some peace agreement. So how
Speaker 1: are you going to fight somebody who doesn't want to quit.
Speaker 1: That was supposed to take place between Putin and Trump
Speaker 1: next week has been more than put on hold. Here's
Speaker 1: the president.
Speaker 13: I don't want to have a wasted meeting. I don't
Speaker 13: want to have a wasted time. So I'll see what happens.
Speaker 13: And I said, go to the line, go to the
Speaker 13: line of battle, on the battlefield lines, and you pull
Speaker 13: back and you go home, and everybody takes some time
Speaker 13: off because you have two countries that are killing each other,
Speaker 13: two countries that are losing five to seven thousand soldiers
Speaker 13: a week. So we'll see what happens. It's we haven't
Speaker 13: made into Simin.
Speaker 1: So like today, the President was talking with the NATO
Speaker 1: head in the Oval Office, and he announced that he
Speaker 1: is going to instead of going to the meeting, He's
Speaker 1: hitting Russia's top oil companies with sanctions to try to
Speaker 1: slow down the war. Funding. Just the fact that oil
Speaker 1: prices are down significantly is also playing into Russia relies
Speaker 1: upon that money and that money isn't as good as
Speaker 1: it was weeks ago. So just getting the word of
Speaker 1: this release from the Treasury Department says President Trump is
Speaker 1: sanctioned Russia's two largest oil producers, ron Sneff and Luke Oil,
Speaker 1: escalating pressure on the Kremlin to end the war in Ukraine.
Speaker 1: So see if that makes any difference, I kind of
Speaker 1: doubt it. I mean, unless it gets even more severe.
Speaker 1: Putin is doug In. He wants to win all of Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Back to Rebecca Heinrich from the Hudson Institute.
Speaker 14: Well, Putin is going to try to do to President
Speaker 14: Trump what he did successfully to President Biden, which is
Speaker 14: scare him into not doing more to help Ukraine and
Speaker 14: not doing more to help and build and strengthen NATO
Speaker 14: in order to compel the Russians to find a different
Speaker 14: way out of this because they're not going to win militarily,
Speaker 14: and President Trump, you know, he said, let's freeze the
Speaker 14: battle lines where they are and have everybody to go home.
Speaker 14: Ukraine immediately agreed to that data, and so did NATO capitals.
Speaker 14: It was Lavrov in his conversation with Secretary Rubio who said, no,
Speaker 14: we still have our maximalist demands and they're not going
Speaker 14: to stop the war. And so once again with Russia
Speaker 14: has been exposed as the one that continues to perpetuate
Speaker 14: the war.
Speaker 3: Its not Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Well again, we'll see what these sanctions do, but they
Speaker 1: have to be really severe sanctions against two oil companies.
Speaker 1: They do all kinds of games to work around that
Speaker 1: company's country, China. We'll figure a way to continue to
Speaker 1: keep feeding the war machine for Russia. Meantime, Hamas President
Speaker 1: weighs in on what's going on there.
Speaker 13: The Hamas situation where they're pretty violent people. I always
Speaker 13: say that we could put that out in two minutes.
Speaker 13: We'll give you your mischage.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 13: They they agreed that they'd be very good, very very straight,
Speaker 13: they wouldn't be killing people, and they have killed people.
Speaker 1: That was the deal we made.
Speaker 13: But if they don't.
Speaker 3: Honor the deal.
Speaker 13: They'll be taken care of very quickly, but I'd rather
Speaker 13: not have to do that. But we have total peace
Speaker 13: in the Middle East.
Speaker 1: That's so Trump. We have total peace in the Middle East.
Speaker 1: That's what he would like. But it's not there yet,
Speaker 1: so everything's still very tenuous. Back to Rebecca Heinrich talking
Speaker 1: about what's going on with hamas.
Speaker 14: Well, this is definitely a full court press. So right
Speaker 14: after President Trump went to the Kanesset for that great
Speaker 14: moment where the Israeli hostages were finally about to be
Speaker 14: released back to their homes, President Trump demonstrated huge, just
Speaker 14: massive solidarity with the Israeli government, showing that this was
Speaker 14: really common cause between the United.
Speaker 2: States and Israel.
Speaker 14: We shared an adversary in these jihadist militants, and this
Speaker 14: was the way to peace by standing with Israel and
Speaker 14: then working with error partners to disarmed Hamas. President Trump
Speaker 14: clearly then sent his vice president to carry that message
Speaker 14: a week later, so that there is still momentum and
Speaker 14: no daylight between this White House and beating Yahu's government.
Speaker 1: You want to get the latest on what's going on
Speaker 1: with Ice. This is fascinating to me because ice again
Speaker 1: is a law a federal law enforcement police force. That's
Speaker 1: what they are. There's the FBI, the DEA, there's all
Speaker 1: the ATF. There's all these various federal police forces, and
Speaker 1: ICE is one of them. But it has become a
Speaker 1: cause celect for people that want to protest. I don't
Speaker 1: know Donald Trump, the government, whatever it might be. So
Speaker 1: last night on Cannell Street in New York, it is
Speaker 1: Cannell Street for those of you that are not familiar
Speaker 1: with New York, goes east and west. It goes from
Speaker 1: the Hudson River over to the East River, and along
Speaker 1: there it cuts through Chinatown. Well in Chinatown, if you
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of people that are of Asian ethnicity
Speaker 1: that are They've got their vendors, they got they're selling
Speaker 1: everything they possibly can down there you can buy. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a crazy place to go and find things that
Speaker 1: you won't find anywhere else. But mixed into all of that,
Speaker 1: there are always people, and they're kind of scattered around town,
Speaker 1: but most of them are down on Canel Street. A
Speaker 1: lot of tourists go there right away because that's where
Speaker 1: they sell the knockoffs. That's where they sell the pretend
Speaker 1: Rolex watches and to pretend Chanel purses and it's all knockoffs.
Speaker 1: You can, yeah, get a twenty five thousand dollars rolex
Speaker 1: for twenty five dollars or something. It's crazy, that's all junk.
Speaker 1: I know a lady who bought one of those designer
Speaker 1: purses that normally goes for three four five thousand dollars
Speaker 1: something like that, and she paid I think seventy five
Speaker 1: dollars and it fell apart within a month. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: they're mostly made in China. That's how they wind up
Speaker 1: in Chinatown and the police try and round them up.
Speaker 1: But beyond that, and I've worked down in that part
Speaker 1: of town for a while and there are other groups,
Speaker 1: a lot of guys from the Caribbean and they are
Speaker 1: in this country or from Latin America, and they're in there.
Speaker 1: They're on their motorcycles and their mopeds and you can
Speaker 1: tell they're up to no good. Well, a lot of
Speaker 1: them apparently are here. It doesn't surprise me here illegally.
Speaker 1: So I swept in last night to pick these guys up.
Speaker 1: And it turns out where they were more than just
Speaker 1: selling knockoffs. I picked up some really bad guys. But
Speaker 1: listen to the New York City officials, one of members
Speaker 1: of the city Council, another one that's the city mbudsman,
Speaker 1: and they were just so upset that these people were
Speaker 1: being picked up and arrested.
Speaker 10: There is no excuse for sending military style vehicles and
Speaker 10: a national law enforcement responds for street vendors.
Speaker 6: This wasn't about public safety. This was about targeting communities.
Speaker 6: None of this is about public safety. It is about
Speaker 6: fear and chaos.
Speaker 5: We wholeheartedly reject the violence that ICE is bringing to
Speaker 5: our city. Subjecting street vendors to this kind of violence
Speaker 5: is deplorable.
Speaker 1: Okay, So there are plenty of street vendors in Cannel Street.
Speaker 1: It's jammed with people all the time. The traffic on
Speaker 1: Cannell Street is bumper to bumpers, stop and go all
Speaker 1: the time. It's very, very busy. But this was more
Speaker 1: than about street vendors. Listen to todd lyons the ICE director,
Speaker 1: about who they really did go there to arrest and
Speaker 1: who they did pick up Tabi.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a bit of both, right.
Speaker 15: Obviously, we have to build a criminal case when we're
Speaker 15: doing such things as counterfeiting. Some of the persons that
Speaker 15: were still seld on the Street. But you know a
Speaker 15: lot of the shop olders down there have complained for
Speaker 15: a long time. And again I wish those elected officials
Speaker 15: and the city officials actually waited for us to do
Speaker 15: media and press because the nine that were arrested, their
Speaker 15: rap sheets are long forgery, possession of drugs, drug trafficking, robbery, assault,
Speaker 15: So these are criminal aliens that we're being targeted. Again,
Speaker 15: we did we know, do these based on criminal intelligence,
Speaker 15: and that's what we had. And you know, if you
Speaker 15: look at the video, everything was fine with the officers
Speaker 15: talking to those individuals and making those arrests until violent
Speaker 15: protesters showed up. Obviously, that protests came up really quick
Speaker 15: and fast, so we have to look and see what
Speaker 15: kind of situation that led to. But that's one of
Speaker 15: the reasons why you saw that bearcat, the Special Response
Speaker 15: Team vehicle out there, because we know everywhere we go,
Speaker 15: because of elected officials rhetoric against violence on ice, we
Speaker 15: have these protests. So what I'd like to ask the
Speaker 15: city officials are you know, they talk about street vendors,
Speaker 15: but that's illegal, and they've been calling in the city
Speaker 15: to do something about it. But again, we arrested criminally
Speaker 15: illegal aliens that have horrible rap sheets.
Speaker 2: So is doubt the people they want to protect. I
Speaker 2: don't think so.
Speaker 1: I'm very familiar with that part of town. And I'll
Speaker 1: tell you I worked out of a studio that was
Speaker 1: in Tribeca, which is just a couple of blocks away,
Speaker 1: and you walk over by Kennell Street and there are
Speaker 1: these roaming gangs of guys there from another country. It's
Speaker 1: very clear, and you just know that they're trouble. They're
Speaker 1: not there like the merchants the Chinese merchants are in Chinatown.
Speaker 1: It's a whole different level of they're up to no good.
Speaker 15: Well, I think for the people in New York, they're
Speaker 15: going to see Ice and Oaro the Fiddle Partners do
Speaker 15: the law enforcement mission right. This wasn't something just organically
Speaker 15: happened overnight. We decided to go hit Canal Street. With
Speaker 15: any criminal investigation, you have to build up intelligence, you
Speaker 15: have to work with sources, you have to go ahead
Speaker 15: and have the right evidence and work with the.
Speaker 2: US Attorney's office.
Speaker 15: So but you will see an increase in ICE arrest
Speaker 15: because there are so many criminal illegal aliens that have
Speaker 15: been released in New York, specifically especially that are being
Speaker 15: harbored in New York from the lap of cooperation in
Speaker 15: in New York City. So you will see us making
Speaker 15: those criminal arrests to make New York safe again. But
Speaker 15: I will tell you that it's definitely intelligent and driven.
Speaker 15: It's not random. We're just not pulling people off the street.
Speaker 15: There was a specific reason, based on criminal intelligence and
Speaker 15: criminal activity that we showed up on Canal Street.
Speaker 1: So let's go out to Los Angeles because there was
Speaker 1: an incident yesterday afternoon where there's a guy who is
Speaker 1: apparently documents online where ICE officers are, and this is
Speaker 1: in LA and I wound up where somebody in a
Speaker 1: car started ramming the ICE officers patrol car and a
Speaker 1: gun came out and there was some shooting. Three people
Speaker 1: got shrapnel wounds. But this is starting to be like
Speaker 1: the officials in New York out in Los Angeles, they
Speaker 1: are starting to be very much anti ICE and they're
Speaker 1: sticking up for these people that have severe criminal record.
Speaker 15: And you can see that there are so many elected
Speaker 15: officials that call for resisting ICE, pushing back to fining
Speaker 15: ICE that almost daily we have two to three of
Speaker 15: these ramming incidents, which is a deadly force, you know,
Speaker 15: and it's put in our office in the agents at risk.
Speaker 15: And even though we're at one thousand percent assaults on offices,
Speaker 15: I guarantee it's more than that because every my office
Speaker 15: is constantly dealing with reports from the field about these
Speaker 15: criminally legal aliens either fighting with officers, trying to ram vehicles,
Speaker 15: or even worse, you have US citizens that are involving
Speaker 15: themselves in a law enforcement situation that's just totally unaccepted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people are getting in the middle of this whole thing.
Speaker 1: And you don't do that with with your local police departments.
Speaker 1: Do you jump in the middle of a police officer
Speaker 1: trying to arrest somebody and try and stop the police
Speaker 1: from doing that. That's what's going on. Somebody is going
Speaker 1: to get hurt. There's already been the shooting in Dallas.
Speaker 1: There's going to be more. There are more people that
Speaker 1: are going to be hurt and going to be killed.
Speaker 1: Robert Garcia, who is a congressman from Los Angeles, a Democrat,
Speaker 1: who made an announcement in Los Angeles that next week
Speaker 1: he's on the overside. I think he's a ranking member
Speaker 1: of the Oversight Committee that he thinks that the over
Speaker 1: site committee is going to launch an ICE tracker, So
Speaker 1: if you want to try and track down an ICE
Speaker 1: officer and where they are, it's again, this is playing
Speaker 1: with fire. Here's Garcia.
Speaker 2: I shared this with the mayor.
Speaker 16: Over the course of the next couple of weeks, the
Speaker 16: Oversight Committee will be launching on their website a master
Speaker 16: ICE tracker where we can We're going to be essentially
Speaker 16: tracking every single instance that we can verify that the
Speaker 16: community will send, you will send us information on.
Speaker 15: Think what I'd say to him is the fact that
Speaker 15: if he wants to put a target on ICE agents back,
Speaker 15: so be it. But he shouldn't behind shouldn't hide behind
Speaker 15: the fact that he wants to make his community safe.
Speaker 15: We've already seen from the Dallas shooting that apps like
Speaker 15: those are like giving a map to a hitman. So
Speaker 15: he's not protecting his community, he's putting the men and
Speaker 15: women in law enforcement at risk. Do they track the DEA,
Speaker 15: Do they track the FBI? They don't, So I really
Speaker 15: wish elected officials would talk to us and seeing exactly
Speaker 15: who we're arresting.
Speaker 2: See the criminal history.
Speaker 15: See the public states stats were thrown out, but the
Speaker 15: minimumomen advice are being targeted for just doing their law
Speaker 15: enforcement mission, and it's coming from elected officials and it
Speaker 15: has to stop.
Speaker 1: So what's the root cause of all of this? The
Speaker 1: root cause is plainly in front of your eyes. This
Speaker 1: was when Joe Biden opened up the border and let
Speaker 1: twenty million people in. And in that twenty million, there's
Speaker 1: a significant number of them that are criminals. And that's
Speaker 1: how this whole thing started. And now they're trying to
Speaker 1: get the illegals out of this country. But Garcia is
Speaker 1: promoting the idea of basically telling a hitman where they
Speaker 1: can go and kill a law enforcement officer that works
Speaker 1: for ICE. Shameful. Back to New York pal Morrow, former
Speaker 1: NYPD talks about what happened on Canell Street last night
Speaker 1: and little New York geography geography for you about Canel Street.
Speaker 17: Canal Street, if people don't know, is one of the
Speaker 17: big East West avenues in New York City and it's
Speaker 17: one of the oldest streets in New York City. It's
Speaker 17: actually dug by the Dutch. There's actually a canal under
Speaker 17: that they've built. It's still under there. Why that matters
Speaker 17: because underneath the ground there are all these storehouses like
Speaker 17: it's like a rabbit war and nobody's completely mapped it.
Speaker 17: And that's where they store all of the counterfeit goods.
Speaker 17: So that's the stuff that you see for sale on
Speaker 17: Canal Street. That's why it's there, because even when the
Speaker 17: police do get the intelligence and do a raid, you
Speaker 17: don't get everything. And it's because of this ecosystem that
Speaker 17: exists down there. It's all Chinese knockoff stuff comes from
Speaker 17: China's maiden. China comes here and you get the bags.
Speaker 17: It's knockoff. So the conditions there, the street conditions are
Speaker 17: very crowded, a lot of illegality. The store owners complain,
Speaker 17: the residents complain. The police department's hamstrung because we can't
Speaker 17: get robberies locked up in this town these days. So
Speaker 17: as a result, you have this federal raid. They're finally
Speaker 17: reacting to this.
Speaker 1: One of the city officials that was speaking out last
Speaker 1: night is that Yuwan Williams, he's like a city on budsman.
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be protecting the people and he can
Speaker 1: hardly wait for Mandannie to be elected mayor.
Speaker 6: The one thing I will say that gives me some
Speaker 6: hope is in a few months we are going to
Speaker 6: have a mayor who actually cares about New Yorkers and
Speaker 6: who will be here joined with us saying that we
Speaker 6: have united front against what's happening here.
Speaker 2: And the authoritarian president.
Speaker 1: Yes, so he's rooting for Maham Donnie. The other two, well,
Speaker 1: the man Donnie and Cuomo both came out after the
Speaker 1: raid last night down on Cannell Street and they said
Speaker 1: that they were all against Ice. Ma'am Donnie, I get
Speaker 1: the fact that he's against ice, but Cuomo he said
Speaker 1: the same thing. So one of those two is going
Speaker 1: to be mayor. Back to Paul Morrow.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean, look the signs aren't they don't. Auger
Speaker 17: well right, VERA. Williams is a virulent anti police official.
Speaker 17: Were Mom Donnie to win, I'm not conceding that, but
Speaker 17: were he to win, there's no check on him. The
Speaker 17: city council here, who has tremendous power inside of New
Speaker 17: York City, they follow travelers of his and quite frankly,
Speaker 17: everyday New Yorkers who paid the taxes and want of
Speaker 17: what pay the law. They don't have a lot of
Speaker 17: friends in Albany either, So I don't see where we're
Speaker 17: going to get a check on all of the worst
Speaker 17: headed stuff. I mean, Deblasio took us in one direction.
Speaker 17: This is going to take us much further. Eric Adams,
Speaker 17: for the last four years has been the only check
Speaker 17: on the hyper progressivism in law enforcement area.
Speaker 1: Cuisans, we're talking about Lower Manhattan and down on Canell Street.
Speaker 1: Let's go over to Wall Street and see what the
Speaker 1: folks there did today. And there's nothing to rally about there.
Speaker 1: Wall Street was negative today, the Dow coming off a
Speaker 1: record yesterday, the Dow down three hundred and thirty four
Speaker 1: to forty six thousand and five ninety s, and p
Speaker 1: down thirty five then Asdack down two hundred and thirteen,
Speaker 1: price of gold up seven dollars to forty one sixteen,
Speaker 1: and oil up a buck and a half. Today it's
Speaker 1: at fifty nine dollars now for one barrel of oil.
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming by. We'll try this again tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I hope to see you then.