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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham, the great American of course, Reds bos talk

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<v Speaker 1>books off about five forty tonight. I'm sorry, six forty tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Fort'cock begins about six oh five with Lance's first pitch

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<v Speaker 1>about seven forty in Kansas City, the Reds won yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows what happens tonight? Better listen to find out.

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<v Speaker 1>But yours truly for the first time, and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five years found myself at the Taste of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>Got down there about twelve fifteen, twelve thirty yesterday, Memorial

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<v Speaker 1>Day itself, walked around good crowds. A little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>yelling and screaming happening with some of the protesters. Their

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<v Speaker 1>life's miserable. They want you to be miserable, But I

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<v Speaker 1>was not miserable. I was happy, Jon of you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I now is Brendan call Cull, Brendan call the CEO

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<v Speaker 1>of the Chamber of Commerce, in charge of October Fest,

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<v Speaker 1>in charge of the tasting so much more, and Brendan

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<v Speaker 1>call former chief of staff to Chas Lucan, Welcome again

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<v Speaker 1>to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Brendan give the American

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<v Speaker 1>people first of all. The day after give you overview

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<v Speaker 1>what happened the last three or four days with the

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<v Speaker 1>taste it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a beautiful day. You know. My favorite part

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<v Speaker 2>is being down there with these restaurant owners. And I

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<v Speaker 2>know I saw you walking around.

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<v Speaker 1>With your crew.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really nice to just bump into you on

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<v Speaker 2>Fifth on Fifth Street there in the shadow of Procter

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<v Speaker 2>and Gambles World headquarters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my favorite part of three days is talking

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<v Speaker 2>to these restaurant owners who are down there themselves working

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<v Speaker 2>these booths and they're meeting customers and talking to people.

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<v Speaker 2>It was awesome and people were in such good spirit

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<v Speaker 2>all weekend. People were chill. We had no incidents of

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<v Speaker 2>any sort. We had more than eighty vendors all weekend long,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the most that we've we've ever had a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of new vendors. You know, hundreds of thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>people came through all week and long. And it was dry,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, from a Chamber of Commerce perspective, we

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<v Speaker 2>like it when it doesn't rain on these events. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>How many restaurant tours, how many people showed up Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a full.

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<v Speaker 2>Report, you know, I don't We don't really do the

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<v Speaker 2>exact estimate of number of people who came through, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was certainly consistent with previous years. Hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of people we know come and visit the event. We

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<v Speaker 2>had more than eighty food vendors, particularly Findley Market. The

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<v Speaker 2>team at Finley Market, which is just this gem in

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<v Speaker 2>our city food culture. You know, they had more than

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<v Speaker 2>two dozen different food vendors down there, from ice cream

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<v Speaker 2>to oysters. I mean, somebody who's this restaurant Send which

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<v Speaker 2>is opening a new restaurant in Findley Market, was serving

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<v Speaker 2>oysters on the halfshell. And you know, that's a level

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<v Speaker 2>up from Taste to Cincinnati. And I love seeing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that you can come down there and explore

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<v Speaker 2>all this different kind of food that you can get

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<v Speaker 2>here in our community.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm reading a letter to the You may have

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<v Speaker 1>seen it. Protesters were louder than the music at the taste.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people find reason to complain, but I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of the culture, part of the beauty. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>engage with protesters as simply watch and move on, let

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<v Speaker 1>them have their day. But Deborah Busey. B Usse identified

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<v Speaker 1>herself from Liberty Township the home of Richard K. Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>Citizens should not have to put up with this city council.

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<v Speaker 1>Should they do something about this, or where they all

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<v Speaker 1>stay out in the suburbs, I don't know. Give me

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<v Speaker 1>your analysis. I saw some loud screaming.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I worked at I worked at city Hall

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<v Speaker 2>for just a few days if you remember, about five years.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm fairly certain that is even with all of

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<v Speaker 2>their infinite powers at eight oh one Plumb Street, the

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<v Speaker 2>First Amendment does not enter into their purview. And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I I saw some of those folks who

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<v Speaker 2>carry signs. They're usually there every year. They're not inside

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<v Speaker 2>the event, but you know, that's that's part of America, part.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the deal. And somebody wanted me to sign a

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<v Speaker 1>petition to take away qualified immunity for police officers. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I respectfully declined. You should know more about that issue

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<v Speaker 1>before you pass around such a stupid idea. Also, there

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<v Speaker 1>was an incident with Brian helped.

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<v Speaker 2>If you had a judge there, If you had a

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<v Speaker 2>judge there, they could have helped explain some of that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I did have one with me and we simply

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<v Speaker 1>move on.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. Well, yeah, he moved right on exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But another one I'm down there. It was outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the Taste itself. It was on Fountain Square where there

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<v Speaker 1>was some kid who had broke into some cars and

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<v Speaker 1>they police think they identified him, and he left the

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<v Speaker 1>Taste about one am on Sunday morning. The Taste I

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<v Speaker 1>then closed about eleven and he was identified. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he had a gun with him and he got to

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<v Speaker 1>Fountain Square, turned around and pointed the gun at the cop.

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<v Speaker 1>Fortunately the cop had out of taser and tasted him

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<v Speaker 1>and down he went. That was dangerous. You're like a

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<v Speaker 1>city dweller. I go in now and then to monitor events.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you Censor's more crime? Car break ins, burglaries happening

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<v Speaker 1>now than there's been during the reign of you and

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie O.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I Actually I look at these numbers pretty carefully,

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<v Speaker 2>and look, the perception matters. I mean, you want everybody

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<v Speaker 2>should feel safe in their city. Everybody should feel safe

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<v Speaker 2>in their community. So I put a lot of stock

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<v Speaker 2>into how people feel and what people say. The numbers

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<v Speaker 2>are in. The numbers have been coming down, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think certainly what I would tell you is that

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<v Speaker 2>the Cincinnati Police Department Hamilton County Sheriff's Department. They were

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<v Speaker 2>out in force with us this weekend. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we talk a lot about the food vendors and the

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<v Speaker 2>beer volunteers and our team who works on this event.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't put on an event like Taste of Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>which are whole communities proud of without the good people

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<v Speaker 2>of public safety and Hamilton County in Cincinnati. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know they had We have them all on scene. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>you see them and sometimes you don't. That's the way

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<v Speaker 2>we want it. But their job is to keep people

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<v Speaker 2>safe and we had We had zero incidents within the

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<v Speaker 2>Taste footprints this year. It was tremendously safe weekend in

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<v Speaker 2>downtown Cincinnati. And frankly, the most safe experiences are when

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of people around, and so when we

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<v Speaker 2>do events like this, you know, it's a great way

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<v Speaker 2>to get people down and explore the city and do

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<v Speaker 2>it in a safe way. So again that partnership we

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<v Speaker 2>have with the good men and women of since I Police,

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<v Speaker 2>Hamlon County Sheriff's Fire Department, all those public safety folks

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<v Speaker 2>who helped make sure the city runs well. They just

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<v Speaker 2>did a great job this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Brendon call. I noticed that booth there you could sign

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<v Speaker 1>up to be a police officer. I'm sure it's a

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<v Speaker 1>long grigamo row sign up to be a firefighter. My

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<v Speaker 1>good friend Tim Dickey, who's a firefighter, who's hanging around

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<v Speaker 1>registering people. Isn't it a problem in today's world to

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<v Speaker 1>get men and women to become cops and firefighters? Difficult?

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<v Speaker 2>It is difficult. I mean, they are working very hard

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<v Speaker 2>to recruit classes. And I think this is a national

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<v Speaker 2>this is a national issue. It's not it's certainly not

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<v Speaker 2>unique to Cincinnati, you know. I do know that getting

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<v Speaker 2>the pay right, getting a pension right has been an

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<v Speaker 2>important piece of the puzzle, and that the City of

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati police and fire recruits. They're working really hard to

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<v Speaker 2>fill those classes right now. But these are the most

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<v Speaker 2>honorable jobs, you know, in a community, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>hope more and more young people consider that as a career.

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<v Speaker 2>And when, frankly, when they ask us every year to

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<v Speaker 2>help recruit in an event like this, we always say

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<v Speaker 2>yes because it's a it's a great way to get

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<v Speaker 2>in touch with people who might see this is a

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<v Speaker 2>career option. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Brendan Call of the Chamber have put me in charge.

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<v Speaker 1>Every cop in firefighters starts off at one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a year plus benefits. A way to attract more talent,

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<v Speaker 1>which is always in competition, is to pay more money.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm led to believe that if you're a CEO in

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<v Speaker 1>the jail or a cop, you make about sixty two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars by the time you pay taxes. That means

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<v Speaker 1>you make forty thousand dollars a year. Start off at

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred, go up from that and you get a

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<v Speaker 1>much many more applicants and better quality because you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have a career. The pensions are pretty nice, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can't attract great talent to stand uh to do

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<v Speaker 1>what they have to do. Ninety nine percent of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just boredom perpetuating a one percent of sheer terror

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<v Speaker 1>they have to go through. Would you agree with me

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<v Speaker 1>that cops should be paid one hundred thousand a year

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know if that's exact right now. What

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<v Speaker 2>I do know is that you know these are all

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<v Speaker 2>negotiated contracts. And I remember my days of the city,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember some of the work that we did

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<v Speaker 2>with the Futures Commission and what I can tell you

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<v Speaker 2>if you're if you're a young person or a youngish

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<v Speaker 2>person and you're considering this as a career, being a

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<v Speaker 2>police officer or a firefighter, or a sheriff deputy or

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<v Speaker 2>any of number of those things can be very lucrative

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<v Speaker 2>and you you work hard, and yes, it's the most

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're you're on an edge. How would you

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<v Speaker 2>describe it as that one percent of the time terror?

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<v Speaker 2>These are critically important roles in a community, and you

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<v Speaker 2>save lives, You impact lives by the way most of

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<v Speaker 2>the time in an incredibly positive way. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not always that it's an arrest. Sometimes it's just helping

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<v Speaker 2>out a neighbor or helping out somebody who's in a

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<v Speaker 2>moment where they need. You know, we call them when

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<v Speaker 2>we have a lost kid. Some kids get you know,

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<v Speaker 2>separated from their parents at an event. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>that sheered terror feels like you can't find your kid

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<v Speaker 2>for fifteen minutes, that's it, And it's a simple a

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<v Speaker 2>police department. They help us with that, and so you

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<v Speaker 2>think about the impact that that officer has on the

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<v Speaker 2>lives of the people.

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<v Speaker 1>These are just.

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<v Speaker 2>Hugely important jobs. And so I tell anybody if you're

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<v Speaker 2>considering that as a career, your pension is great. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you get to a point where you can retire and

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<v Speaker 2>live a great life. And so these are these are

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<v Speaker 2>great jobs. You can sign up really easily to take

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<v Speaker 2>those tests.

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<v Speaker 1>Brend and call I have a question here from a

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<v Speaker 1>banks type person. How come it wasn't on the Banks

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<v Speaker 1>You've moved it a around a little bit. Why'd you

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<v Speaker 1>move to Fifth Street?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so I've been at the Chamber of ten years

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<v Speaker 2>and it has been on Fifth Street, I think at

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<v Speaker 2>least twenty and prior to that, if you remember, it

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<v Speaker 2>was up on Central Parkway and that was fun and

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<v Speaker 2>and the and the reason that it is not further

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<v Speaker 2>west on Fifth Street, I will tell you, is because

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<v Speaker 2>the streetcar tracks are in some of the roads in

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<v Speaker 2>that past, and we find a lot of people use

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<v Speaker 2>the street part to get in and out of tasas

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati from a parking perspective, and it helps them get

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<v Speaker 2>to other parts of town. So we used that west

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<v Speaker 2>west or east side of Fifth Street.

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<v Speaker 1>Same thing with Octoberfest.

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<v Speaker 2>Octoberfest is now down at that was always on Fifth

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<v Speaker 2>Street too, and then we moved it last year. What

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<v Speaker 2>and third, and that that poses some logistical challenge when

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<v Speaker 2>the Reds are in town or if the Bengals are

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<v Speaker 2>in town. And so h october Fest is now at

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<v Speaker 2>Sawyer Point and we will be back at Sawyer Point

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<v Speaker 2>this year. And that's a phenomenal location. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>when I saw that for the first time, my colleague

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<v Speaker 2>Chelsea Yorke envisioned that and that that's where it's meant

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<v Speaker 2>to be. It feels like German beer gardens. It feels

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<v Speaker 2>like what it's like in Munich. It's a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's an awesome space.

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, do you and Charlie Lucan thought about seizing power

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<v Speaker 1>once again taking over eight to one Plum Street. He

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<v Speaker 1>could be the mayor. You could be the chief of staff,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like Halderman and Erlickman. You could be in charge,

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<v Speaker 1>and when he's getting older, you can control the mayorship

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<v Speaker 1>like those around Biden controlled the presidency. Have you thought

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<v Speaker 1>about maybe you and Luken seizing power once again?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've never thought of that.

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<v Speaker 1>What about Charlie's getting older now, doesn't know what he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing a lot of times you could control.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything we had, we had, we've had, we have secret

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<v Speaker 2>meetings to plot the future. Sure still to this day.

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<v Speaker 2>And Charlie's a very good friend. He's doing extraordinarily well.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw him out at takes the Cincinnati this weekend too,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he was, what was your favorite food down there?

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<v Speaker 1>I had a Bahama Mama with some sour kraut. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I had a vanilla cream puff got it all over me.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked like a fool.

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<v Speaker 2>I had the Buffalo Wings from Buffalo's Best Food Truck,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a food truck out of Florence, Kentucky. And

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<v Speaker 2>those wings are I got tell you. Every year I

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<v Speaker 2>look forward to him. They were so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe Brendan call this year the People's Judge, and

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<v Speaker 1>I may come down to October Fest. I've not been

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<v Speaker 1>there in twenty years either, so I may check it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you'd love it down the river. Maybe you want

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<v Speaker 2>to do the chicken dance.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm not much of a dancer. I'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Cricket, you could lead that. You could lead the chicken dance.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know Jim Scott did it one year and

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Nuxtell did it. If well, make sure it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people are unhappy with me in general, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know how how popular I would be,

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<v Speaker 1>but if if it has to do so, yes, I would.

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<v Speaker 1>But check it out first.

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<v Speaker 2>We had We had a great it's you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful in the river. We're pretty pumped about it. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's great and it was great to see you guys

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<v Speaker 2>down here this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>You were with Sean Donovan, Chief's deputy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I allowed to saying who you're with. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know if that's too personal. Ye with your beautiful bride

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<v Speaker 2>and don Donovan, who you know, talking about a great

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati and he's done so much for this community.

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<v Speaker 1>He's wonderful. And side Lease is still kicking it. Not

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<v Speaker 1>in the best of health, but he's had some uh

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<v Speaker 1>had some emergencies recently, but he's still at home and

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<v Speaker 1>still doing what he's doing in his nineties. Not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, Brendan call, thank you. Get in touch with

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<v Speaker 1>me about the Chicken dance, and uh make sure it's

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<v Speaker 1>okay with the powers that be. You know, there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of liberal Democrats in Cincinnati. The man I

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<v Speaker 1>like me headquartering anything, so check that out first.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you are a great American billy God bless America.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Brandon call. Thank you very much. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's continue with more if the line becomes available five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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<v Speaker 1>seven thousand. News is next and so much more at

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<v Speaker 1>Trump of the Reds and maybe the Leader of the

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<v Speaker 1>Chicken dance? Can I dance? How popular would that be?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. On news radio seven hundred WULW
