1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: It would wake you out of a dead sleep. 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: And there were several times that I stayed up to 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,080 try to wait to catch it. And when I heard it, 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,640 by the time I would get outside, you'd just hear 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,320 something running through the brush, or you'd catch like I 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,119 want to say, silhouette, but just like a blob or 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,399 a shed, just something darting. It was very knit, like 8 00:00:18,519 --> 00:00:20,559 it could disappear in the second if it wanted to. 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,239 I installed some motion sensor lights. It seemed to deter 10 00:00:25,399 --> 00:00:27,480 it for a while, and then it just came back. 11 00:00:27,559 --> 00:00:29,359 It was still hitting the back of the house. But 12 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,800 it was just horrendous there for a long time because 13 00:00:31,839 --> 00:00:34,240 the dogs would go crazy, and then that would stir 14 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,399 up the animals in the barn. 15 00:00:35,719 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: And we just couldn't figure out what the heck this 16 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:38,359 thing was. 17 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,039 Speaker 2: Now that I'm you know, not in the wilderness, I've 18 00:00:41,039 --> 00:00:42,320 gone back and thought about it. 19 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:44,399 Speaker 1: I know what I saw. I can't think of anything 20 00:00:44,439 --> 00:00:45,240 else that it could have been. 21 00:00:45,719 --> 00:01:06,439 Speaker 2: It's, I mean, it's world shattering. 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: I'd like to welcome Scott to Bigfoot Crossroads. Scott sent 23 00:01:24,879 --> 00:01:28,400 me an email about some experiences he had on a 24 00:01:28,519 --> 00:01:33,799 property he owned and man this laid out like so 25 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:38,040 many stories I've heard, experiences, whatever you want to call it. 26 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:42,560 Whenever Bigfoot is on people's property, it's almost like there's 27 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,439 a playbook that they follow. So I was really excited 28 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,040 whenever Scott agreed to come on and here he is. Scott, 29 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,200 thanks for joining me. 30 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: Not a problem, glad to be here. 31 00:01:53,239 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: You know, just walk us through the story bit by bit, 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,000 just like you did in the email of what happened 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:01:59,200 to You. 34 00:02:00,599 --> 00:02:05,159 Speaker 2: So I bought a property in New Marshfield, which is 35 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,000 kind of south of like the Hawking Hills area. Moved 36 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:14,400 in October of twenty seventeen. Beautiful property, five acres, I know, 37 00:02:14,479 --> 00:02:17,159 it's not that huge, had a big open field, and 38 00:02:17,199 --> 00:02:20,800 then the back half of my property was wooded and 39 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,879 it sat across from the Waterloo Wildlife Area. Beautiful, tucked away, 40 00:02:26,039 --> 00:02:29,560 hidden kind of place. Nothing for like the first month 41 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,639 or so, pretending it was mid November. I remember it 42 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:38,800 was near Thanksgiving, middle of the night, just this god 43 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:45,439 awful scream grown right outside the living room window. 44 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: Dogs went nuts. 45 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,599 Speaker 2: They were barking, trying to claw their way through the 46 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:50,280 window to get it. 47 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:53,199 Speaker 1: Whatever it was. I grabbed a spotlight and. 48 00:02:53,199 --> 00:02:55,759 Speaker 2: A rifle by the time I got outside, I could 49 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:56,919 see nothing. 50 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: Did you have any idea what it might be? 51 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:02,159 Speaker 1: No idea. 52 00:03:02,199 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: Honestly, the first thing I thought of was it sounded 53 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:09,039 like a moose. Okay, but being in Ohio, that's something 54 00:03:09,039 --> 00:03:09,599 that shouldn't be. 55 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,199 Speaker 3: There, right, not very likely. 56 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:19,159 Speaker 2: But it was a horrendous like glass rattling noise. Again, 57 00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:25,240 after that, nothing until spring. When spring rolled around, I 58 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:27,919 kind of got my little farm set up, got goats, 59 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,560 pot belly pigs, turkeys, chickens, all that good stuff. Throughout 60 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,439 the summer it wasn't much, but I started noticing. I 61 00:03:36,479 --> 00:03:39,199 worked early shift, and when I would go out to 62 00:03:39,199 --> 00:03:41,759 feed in the morning, around five five thirty in the morning, 63 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,439 when i'd step off the back porch, there'd either be 64 00:03:44,479 --> 00:03:48,159 a crack like a wood knock on the back hill 65 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:54,039 behind me, or a real crisp whistle, just one quick 66 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,840 like and that was it. A single tone, yep, just 67 00:03:57,879 --> 00:04:00,000 a single tone, just real quick, maybe a second or 68 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,360 too long. And it happened like multiple times a week, 69 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:07,199 and it was an eerie feeling sometimes when you go 70 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,639 out there and it was barely light and you would 71 00:04:09,719 --> 00:04:10,039 hear that. 72 00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:11,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can imagine. 73 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: But so that went on through the summer, and then 74 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:17,839 when fall rolled around, things started to get really odd. 75 00:04:20,399 --> 00:04:23,040 I never locked the barn or the chicken coop because 76 00:04:23,079 --> 00:04:25,879 I had no need to, there's nobody around to bother us. 77 00:04:26,439 --> 00:04:29,319 But I was starting to feel like I was going 78 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,839 crazy because full bags of feed started disappearing from the barn, 79 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:38,120 like fifty pound bags of sweet feed and corn would 80 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,959 just disappear. 81 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,199 Speaker 3: Like the entire bag itself, the entire bag. 82 00:04:43,399 --> 00:04:46,519 Speaker 2: Because I would make one trip to the local farm 83 00:04:46,519 --> 00:04:51,000 store stock up on like twenty bags, and they just 84 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:56,360 disappear all at once. Maybe once one would disappear a 85 00:04:56,399 --> 00:05:00,160 week or every two weeks, they were just gone. In 86 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,279 that winter, I noticed so at Max, I think we 87 00:05:05,319 --> 00:05:09,360 had about thirty five chickens in our coop, and then 88 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,319 it slowly was like, well, no, there's only thirty two, 89 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:15,600 and there was only thirty, and then it just kept 90 00:05:15,639 --> 00:05:21,600 dwindling and again every few days one of them would 91 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,399 just disappear. And the chicken coop was set up where 92 00:05:25,399 --> 00:05:28,680 you had to unlatch a door step into the coop, 93 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,920 and then there was another door that had to be 94 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,519 unlocked to get to the roosting area. They were completely enclosed. 95 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,680 The coop had a run on it. The run was 96 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,800 completely covered. The wire went two and a half feet 97 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,360 in the ground because I was terrified of foxes and 98 00:05:42,439 --> 00:05:46,279 coyotes digging their way in. Could not figure out what 99 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:46,920 was going on. 100 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: And like the doors were never unlatched or anything. 101 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,759 Speaker 1: No, the doors would always just be closed. 102 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: What kind of latch was it? 103 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: Just a simple like eye hook okay, where you just 104 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,519 pushed the little hook down through the eye a loop 105 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,279 and then latch it closed, which to me seemed like 106 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,920 it was going to be enough to keep the chickens 107 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:08,879 in and keep them safe. 108 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,879 Speaker 1: But you would think so, you'd think I. 109 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: Had at that point started to think about putting security 110 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:16,800 cameras in. 111 00:06:17,399 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: Unfortunately the location I. 112 00:06:19,199 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: Was at internet was spotty at best. I was running 113 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,319 off satellite internet that could barely load an email. 114 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 3: So like, as all this kind of plays out, you know, 115 00:06:29,959 --> 00:06:32,680 you had you had the scream, and then you had 116 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,000 the whistles and the knocks whenever you had come out, 117 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:40,439 and then you know, the sweet feeds disappearing slowly, the 118 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:46,040 chickens are seemingly vanishing. You're not having anything torn up 119 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:49,920 or you're not finding the latches undone or anything. Are 120 00:06:49,959 --> 00:06:52,160 you starting to kind of dots at this point, or 121 00:06:52,199 --> 00:06:53,480 what do you think is going on? 122 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: Honestly, for a long time, I thought it had to 123 00:06:57,319 --> 00:07:00,480 be some teenagers or something sneaking their way out there. 124 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,199 Speaker 1: Never thought bigfoot. 125 00:07:05,079 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: That just never occurred to me, and I don't know why, 126 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,879 because that went by the end of the story, it's like, well, 127 00:07:11,879 --> 00:07:17,399 this all just makes sense. I don't know if it's 128 00:07:17,519 --> 00:07:20,800 just like a deep seated you don't want to go 129 00:07:20,879 --> 00:07:22,480 to that, you don't want to think about that. 130 00:07:23,399 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: Now. Did any of the other animals get messed with 131 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:26,800 or was it just chickens? 132 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: Not At that point, it was just the chickens. 133 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,399 Speaker 2: We did have a couple of turkeys and they were 134 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,920 never taken. I don't know if there's a reason for that, 135 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:43,079 but chickens seemed to be I guess easy pickens. But 136 00:07:43,839 --> 00:07:46,439 started to get fed up with all of that, so 137 00:07:46,519 --> 00:07:51,600 I switched to UH locks on the barn and the 138 00:07:51,639 --> 00:07:57,800 chicken coop. And then shortly after changing the locks, something 139 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,000 kept slamming itself into the back of our house at 140 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,959 three or four in the morning. Oh wow, it sounded 141 00:08:04,959 --> 00:08:07,920 like somebody took a baseball back and just smack the 142 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:12,240 back wall. It would alloud, if it would wake you 143 00:08:12,279 --> 00:08:14,560 out of a dead sleep. And there were several times 144 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,519 that I stayed up to try to wait to catch it, 145 00:08:19,839 --> 00:08:21,240 and when I heard it, by the time I would 146 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,600 get outside, you'd just hear something running through the brush, 147 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,240 or you'd catch like I want to say, silhouette, but 148 00:08:28,279 --> 00:08:32,159 just like a blob or a shed, just something darting. Yeah, 149 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,440 never got a clear picture what it was. 150 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 3: Did it seem to always be the same spot on 151 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:40,000 the house. 152 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:44,639 Speaker 2: It was the back of the house, which in retrospect 153 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:49,759 I think it's because whatever was doing it only had 154 00:08:49,799 --> 00:08:52,240 to step fifteen feet out of the woodline to hit 155 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,519 the back of the house. It was very nit like 156 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,720 it could disappear in the second if it wanted to. 157 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,639 Speaker 3: Did you have any lights back there? 158 00:09:00,799 --> 00:09:01,799 Speaker 1: I didn't. At first. 159 00:09:02,759 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: I installed some motions in their lights and it seemed 160 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,720 to deter it for a while, and then it just 161 00:09:13,759 --> 00:09:15,720 came back, but it wouldn't set the lights off. 162 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,399 Speaker 1: I think what it somehow. 163 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: Figured out if I go this far and no further, 164 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,720 it doesn't trigger the light. Yeah, it was still hitting 165 00:09:25,759 --> 00:09:29,279 the back of the house, but the lights wouldn't come on, 166 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,039 and it was just horrendous. There for a long time 167 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,559 because the dogs would go crazy, and then that would 168 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,039 stir up the animals in the barn sometimes, and we 169 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,120 just couldn't figure out what the heck this thing was. 170 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: You've said we a few times. 171 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: My partner and I lived in the house there for 172 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,080 what was it, twenty seventeen to twenty twenty. 173 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: Okay, And what did they think about? 174 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,159 Speaker 2: All this there from the city, So they were already 175 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,559 terrified of living. They thought every noise was, you know, 176 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,240 a bear or something coming in. Yeah, So, I mean 177 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:05,919 they weren't much help. 178 00:10:06,799 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: Did you see any signs of bears or anything on 179 00:10:09,639 --> 00:10:10,720 the property while you were there? 180 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: No. 181 00:10:12,759 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: We did have wild turkey that came through occasionally, we'd 182 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,960 say coyote or two of course, deer stuff like that. 183 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,919 Some hillaciously large snapping turtles in the pond at the 184 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,000 end of the property. But I never saw any bear 185 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,440 or sign the bear. Not to say they aren't there. 186 00:10:29,879 --> 00:10:34,080 I know they're But then the next big incident that 187 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,279 came up was. 188 00:10:37,399 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: In the bathroom. 189 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,399 Speaker 2: Using the bathroom, and the house was really old, so 190 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,240 the only vent it had was a small window that 191 00:10:44,279 --> 00:10:47,720 you pushed open above the toilet. I was using the 192 00:10:47,759 --> 00:10:52,759 bathroom that little window was open, and my dogs came in, 193 00:10:53,279 --> 00:10:57,240 sat down, stared at the window and started growling. And 194 00:10:57,279 --> 00:11:00,279 when they when they did, there was a large rode 195 00:11:00,279 --> 00:11:04,240 adendron bush outside that window, and you heard it rustle 196 00:11:04,279 --> 00:11:08,600 all around and something running off. Oh wow, and that 197 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,120 since I was icy cold, that was shivers down the spine. 198 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,600 I slowly reached up and closed that window without looking. Yeah, 199 00:11:17,639 --> 00:11:20,320 like that's it, turned off all the lights for the night, 200 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:25,440 and sat and fed. You're already on the toilet, Yeah right, 201 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,559 no doubt. That was probably the most terrifying instant. Just 202 00:11:30,639 --> 00:11:36,159 knowing that it was that close. Yea, it was within 203 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,679 a foot of me potentially looking in that little window 204 00:11:38,759 --> 00:11:39,600 is terrifying. 205 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,399 Speaker 3: And every time that whatever it is at this point, 206 00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:48,759 you don't know, but the dogs are reacting to it aggressively. 207 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: Yes, they. 208 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:56,919 Speaker 2: Had a Pug Beagle mix and a pitt German Shepherd 209 00:11:56,919 --> 00:11:59,720 mix and they were both They aren't big enough to 210 00:11:59,759 --> 00:12:01,919 do anything about it if they got to it, but 211 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,720 they were hell bent on getting to it. Whatever it was, 212 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,679 they were not happy about it. And during the day, 213 00:12:08,799 --> 00:12:12,080 like when I'd let them out in the afternoons, they 214 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,519 seemed real interested in searching the hillside and they would 215 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,960 run up and down the woodline and stuff, just sniffing. 216 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,559 So I'm sure whatever it was, they were trying to 217 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,360 figure out where it was coming from, where it was going. 218 00:12:24,519 --> 00:12:27,679 But I had the barns locked, but on the rare 219 00:12:27,759 --> 00:12:30,960 occasion that I would forget to lock them, or I'd 220 00:12:31,039 --> 00:12:32,480 leave the barn door open because it was really hot 221 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,200 in the summer to let some air went through, feed 222 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:40,879 would disappear again, which in retrospects makes me think these things, 223 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,840 this thing must have been watching the house all the time, 224 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:50,120 which is another creepy feeling and red like, it's so 225 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,919 weird to think about that. You know, the whistling and 226 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,320 knocking still happened in the mornings when I would go 227 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,200 out to feed and stuff, but just that they would know, like, 228 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,759 oh the doors on today, how's the day to go 229 00:13:03,399 --> 00:13:08,519 see what's going on? And then would that have been 230 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:14,840 the last winter we were there? So twenty nineteen we 231 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,679 had a male pop belly pig named Buster. He was 232 00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:23,480 three hundred and fifty three hundred and sixty pounds, and 233 00:13:23,639 --> 00:13:26,000 one night he just vanished from his stall. 234 00:13:28,919 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: Barn was locked, His stall was locked, and this. 235 00:13:34,159 --> 00:13:37,879 Speaker 2: Paddicked that he could get to from his stall outside 236 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,039 was locked, the gates were all locked, but he was 237 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,480 just gone. And it was electric fence. Granted it was 238 00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:47,080 only about three and a half feet tall, because that's 239 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,159 all you need was a pop belly pig. They're not 240 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,840 really good at climbing. He was just gone. No signs 241 00:13:53,799 --> 00:13:57,759 and for anybody that's owned pigs, they don't tend to 242 00:13:57,759 --> 00:14:00,440 want like if you go out with food, they're going 243 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,039 to be right. And we searched for him for days, 244 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,480 never found anything, no signs where he dug his way 245 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:08,000 in and out. 246 00:14:10,039 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 3: So he was in a locked stall inside of a 247 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,200 locked barn. 248 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: Yes, he could access the small paddock outside that was 249 00:14:20,039 --> 00:14:25,399 had an electric fence running around it. And honestly, you know, 250 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,639 coming back to this years later, the only thing I 251 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:31,279 can think is this thing just reached over and grabbed. 252 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: Him, picked up a three hundred and fifty pound pig. 253 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: It just walked off. 254 00:14:35,919 --> 00:14:38,519 Speaker 2: Because Buster would come out anytime somebody would drive up 255 00:14:38,519 --> 00:14:40,559 the driveway. He would come out to see what was 256 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,440 going on because he assumed he was getting food. And 257 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,960 the only thing I can piece together is that he 258 00:14:47,039 --> 00:14:49,120 walked out because he heard somebody walk up to the 259 00:14:49,159 --> 00:14:52,639 fence at the front of the barn and he was 260 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,279 just taken. Never found any ruts where he was like 261 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:58,360 loose in the yard of. 262 00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: The woods, t tracks, no signs of a struggle, nothing. 263 00:15:03,879 --> 00:15:07,279 Speaker 1: And if you've ever had pigs, when you pick them up, 264 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,159 they shriek. 265 00:15:08,399 --> 00:15:10,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't go quietly into the night. 266 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, they do not. 267 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,399 Speaker 2: And no, no, nobody remembers, like, we don't remember hearing anything, 268 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:18,480 don't remember the dogs ever barking. 269 00:15:18,679 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: Just we went out to feed and he was gone. 270 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:23,639 It's baffling. 271 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and went back to it in retrospect again, it's 272 00:15:28,039 --> 00:15:31,279 terrifying to think that this thing, one of these things, 273 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,759 is strong enough to pick him up and just carry 274 00:15:34,799 --> 00:15:39,559 him off. Yeah, the fifty pounds bag, the feeder one thing. 275 00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:44,679 Speaker 1: But I couldn't pick buster up. And I don't know, 276 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,399 it's just crazy. 277 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:50,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. Did stuff continue to happen after the pig was taken. 278 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: Stuff did just the normal smacking the back of the 279 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,759 house randomly, the whistles in the morning, stuff like that. 280 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,320 But then that followed Spring is when I actually had 281 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:09,159 my sighting. I stepped out on my front porch and 282 00:16:09,279 --> 00:16:12,440 just out of the periphery on my left was. 283 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: The big open field. 284 00:16:13,279 --> 00:16:16,039 Speaker 2: At the end of it was a pond and there 285 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,960 was something large and brown and at first I thought 286 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,399 it was a bear or maybe like a Saint Bernard 287 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,240 or something. I mean, it was pretty big and it 288 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:26,000 looked like it was just drinking out of the water 289 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:26,519 or something. 290 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:28,159 Speaker 1: But then as I. 291 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,639 Speaker 2: Turned, it kind of popped up into a kneeling position, 292 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,279 and my heart sank. 293 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: I knew that it's not a bear, it's not a dog, 294 00:16:38,399 --> 00:16:39,879 and what the hell this thing is. 295 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 3: Like on two legs. 296 00:16:42,279 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: It was almost like it squatting or kneeled like it 297 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,440 was not a posture that a dog takes, and I 298 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,919 mean a bear can pop up like that. 299 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: But it was. 300 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,519 Speaker 2: There for like two or three seconds, and then it 301 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,399 kind of rose up a little bit and just wh 302 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:04,880 it was swift, gone into the brush line, just gone. 303 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,039 And it's when it got up and it. 304 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: Like moved. 305 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 2: Bipeeda league that I was like, ah, man, I can't 306 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,920 believe what I just saw. And that's when everything started 307 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:18,480 clicking together, like, oh, cray, this is what. 308 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,279 Speaker 1: I've been living for three years. 309 00:17:21,519 --> 00:17:24,759 Speaker 2: Then COVID hit and everything shut down and we moved 310 00:17:24,799 --> 00:17:28,119 out that summer, so I was only there for like 311 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,400 three more months after I had my sighting, and those 312 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:35,839 were like the most sleepless nights of I know what 313 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,119 this is making noise outside. I kind of changed my 314 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,359 feeding schedule to where I would go out as late 315 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,160 as possible before work so that I had the most daylight. 316 00:17:45,759 --> 00:17:47,839 Like I got terrified of. I don't want to be 317 00:17:47,839 --> 00:17:51,519 outside with this thing. Yeah, but I mean it wasn't 318 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,440 huge it I mean I saw it like one hundred 319 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,319 and fifty yards. If I had to guess, it was 320 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,960 my foot six and a half foot. 321 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: But man, it was thick. 322 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,839 Speaker 2: It looks I'm almost six foot and it looked like 323 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,720 it was twice as thick as me. 324 00:18:09,319 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: It was like a tree trunk. 325 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: It was broad, it had thick legs, and it was 326 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:21,880 a deep chocolate brown kind of color. And the head 327 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,680 on top almost looked like an almond. I didn't I 328 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,759 couldn't see any facial features or anything, but it was 329 00:18:27,839 --> 00:18:31,480 just imagine a piece of ply would with an almond 330 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,880 on the shape on tuck, and that's what the thing 331 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:34,359 looked like. 332 00:18:35,559 --> 00:18:39,319 Speaker 3: Could you tell to look shaggy like long hair or 333 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:39,960 short hair? 334 00:18:41,799 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: If I had to guess, I would say it looked 335 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,720 like about like a black bear, So I mean not 336 00:18:48,759 --> 00:18:51,720 real shaggy, not long flowing, like not dreads or anything 337 00:18:51,759 --> 00:18:56,279 like that. Yeah, it seemed relatively uniform and clean looking. 338 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,440 And I mean, I'm only guessing that it was drinking. 339 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,880 I don't know what it was doing down there at 340 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,200 the edge of the pond. It could have been drinking, 341 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,240 it could have been, you know, trying to get a turtle. 342 00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what it was doing. 343 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 2: It's just my first thought was, oh, there's a bear 344 00:19:09,519 --> 00:19:10,759 trying to drink out of the pond. 345 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: Until it stood up, like it had that profile of 346 00:19:14,279 --> 00:19:15,880 like head closer to the water. 347 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 348 00:19:17,279 --> 00:19:20,079 Speaker 2: It was almost like if I were to lay down, 349 00:19:20,079 --> 00:19:23,119 it would be me on my like hands and knees. Yeah, 350 00:19:24,039 --> 00:19:27,799 and then just in an unnatural movement, was up into 351 00:19:27,799 --> 00:19:31,240 a kneeling position like I would have to use my 352 00:19:31,319 --> 00:19:33,279 hands to like push off the ground. This thing just 353 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,839 kind of popped up. I don't know if it heard 354 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,519 me or caught scent of me. 355 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: It didn't. I mean, it never looked directly in my direction. 356 00:19:44,839 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: But it seemed like it got kind of sketched out 357 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,279 and was like all right, time to leave, and it 358 00:19:48,319 --> 00:19:49,720 was just we were gone. 359 00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 3: Sorry, no, you're good man. 360 00:19:54,279 --> 00:19:56,799 Speaker 1: It's starting to feel a little bit like just you know, 361 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:57,960 talking about it, it's. 362 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 3: Like, who did the activity change after you had the sighting? 363 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,759 Speaker 2: Not really, I think it was the activity didn't really change. 364 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,599 I changed my behavior. I was super heightened, the wear 365 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:18,319 like it was nerve wracking. I can't think of any 366 00:20:18,319 --> 00:20:21,200 activity that really changed. Uh. 367 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: I know that I was in the house by nightfall. 368 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,000 I didn't go out until the sun's up. 369 00:20:27,279 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, because after seeing it, I was like, I don't 370 00:20:31,519 --> 00:20:34,119 think I have enough rounds that I could stop one 371 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,880 of the Like, if it's the only one, I don't 372 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,160 think I could stop it let alone. If there's another one, 373 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,319 and from the whistling and knocking and stuff, I'd assume 374 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,480 there had to be more than one. 375 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:44,839 Speaker 1: In the area. 376 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think. 377 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,839 Speaker 2: So, because here are you whistling too if there's nobody 378 00:20:50,839 --> 00:20:51,400 else around. 379 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 3: You know, did the whistling and knocking continue after that 380 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,079 point whenever you go out. 381 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 2: Yes, the whistling and stuff in the morning when I 382 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,440 even when I would go out to feed it in 383 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,759 the early morning light, there would still you know, a 384 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:09,200 few days a week there'd be whistles and knocks. 385 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: And did that always seem to come from the same location. 386 00:21:13,279 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a pretty steep hill right behind my 387 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,480 house which would have overlooked the top of the barn, 388 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,039 and that's where it always seemed to come from. And 389 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,759 I was never brave enough to climb up there and 390 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,680 poke around. I would step into the woodline every now 391 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,200 and then look around before I saw it. 392 00:21:34,279 --> 00:21:36,559 Speaker 1: I would step in and look around. I could never 393 00:21:36,599 --> 00:21:37,240 see anything. 394 00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:42,799 Speaker 2: But with how you know, dense everything was, Yeah, there 395 00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:44,160 could have been something twenty feet away. 396 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: You wouldn't have noticed it. 397 00:21:46,279 --> 00:21:49,319 Speaker 3: Now it was bigfoot. Something that was ever on your 398 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,519 radar prior. 399 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:55,279 Speaker 2: To this, Uh, not really like a passing thing where 400 00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:58,640 you'd see, you know, some cheesy horror movie. But I 401 00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:04,079 was not, i would say, an enthusiast or anything until 402 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,720 much later, about a year and a half ago, my 403 00:22:08,839 --> 00:22:12,359 son asked me about bigfoot, and that's when all this started, 404 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,480 like popped back into my head and I was like, 405 00:22:14,759 --> 00:22:17,319 oh yeah. And then I started to get interested in 406 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,359 it and started reading and listening to podcasts that came 407 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,000 across s doors. And after listening to about one hundred 408 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,720 and thirty something episodes of your podcast, I was like, Okay, 409 00:22:25,759 --> 00:22:28,599 I feel I could probably share this and not feel 410 00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:29,559 completely insane. 411 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again, like I know it sounds crazy, 412 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,960 especially to someone that might be listening to this stuff 413 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,400 and just you know, kind of on the fence of it. 414 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:43,839 Does this really exist or not? It probably doesn't, but 415 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,920 it's entertaining. But I mean, like, your story is just 416 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,119 like pretty typical of the kind of stuff I would hear. 417 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of people talk about whistling and 418 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,000 woodknocks and stuff on various podcasts and stuff. 419 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 3: Well, especially the missing sweet feed, Like that's that's something 420 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,799 I haven't really talked about on this podcast, but years ago. Like, yeah, 421 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,000 I've talked to numerous people. If you want to find 422 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:13,240 out if you have bigfoot on your property, yeah, yeah, 423 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,599 they love the sweet feed for some reason. I don't 424 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:18,279 know what it has that they can't get on their own, 425 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,240 but there's something right. 426 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,279 Speaker 2: It would disappear before the corn wood corn was like 427 00:23:24,319 --> 00:23:26,839 the backups food to steel. 428 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 3: Now, this will probably be a long shot, but do 429 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,039 you know anything about the property before you moved into it? 430 00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: From what I know, the gentleman that I bought it 431 00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:45,400 off of had rented it for a number of years 432 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:49,480 and had the only thing I talked to him at closing, 433 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,039 and I asked him about it, like why did you 434 00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:53,240 put it up for sale? And the only thing he 435 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,559 said was we just couldn't keep renters. So yeah, I don't. 436 00:23:57,559 --> 00:24:00,160 My assumption at this point in my life is I 437 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,960 can understand why he couldn't keep interest because things are creeping, 438 00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:05,279 peeking in the windows and smacking the house. 439 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, could you tell if it had sat empty for 440 00:24:09,319 --> 00:24:10,599 a while before you moved in? 441 00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: I believe it had been on the market for two 442 00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:19,279 years before I purchased it, so it had been vacant 443 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:22,519 for a while. I mean, the yard and everything was 444 00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:27,319 real overgrown and everything, which after you're saying that they 445 00:24:27,319 --> 00:24:29,400 were probably having the run of the place, and then 446 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,240 we moved in and messed up there their yard. 447 00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:37,799 Speaker 3: That's sort of another ongoing narrative to this stuff. It 448 00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:41,680 seems whenever people move into property such as that one 449 00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:45,480 that's sat empty for a little while and they've kind 450 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:47,960 of taken over the area as part of their territory 451 00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:53,400 or whatever, and then you move in and disrupt that, 452 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,319 they let you know. They let you know maybe the 453 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,000 sweet feed and the chickens and the pig they saw 454 00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:01,519 as a form of payment. You know you're gonna you're 455 00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:03,160 gonna pay rent if you're staying here. 456 00:25:04,519 --> 00:25:05,799 Speaker 1: That's a fair way to think about it. 457 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,599 Speaker 3: Yet, whenever you let the property go, did you disclose anything? 458 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: No? I did not. 459 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: I honestly haven't didn't talk about what happened at that 460 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,880 property until about a year ago, just to know, like 461 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,759 we didn't talk to anybody about it, because that whole thing. 462 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,680 People gonna think you're crazy. Sure, I mean, how do 463 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,519 you explain something smacking the. 464 00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:30,599 Speaker 1: Back of your house at night? 465 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,319 Speaker 2: How do you explain animal animals disappearing behind locked doors? 466 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,079 And I mean I thought I was going crazy at 467 00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:39,640 one point. I would check my debit cards, seem like 468 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,039 did I buy feed? Did I buy this as much 469 00:25:42,039 --> 00:25:42,759 as I thought I did? 470 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 3: You know, I get what you're saying with the missing 471 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,240 chickens and the sweet feed and everything. Maybe your mind 472 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,559 is just looking for an answer, right, So you're you're thinking, Okay, well, 473 00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:57,200 this must be some local teenager just messing with me 474 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,519 or something whatever. But I mean, the whistling and the 475 00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:05,480 knocking and the smacking of the house, Like, how did 476 00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:06,680 you justify any of that? 477 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 2: I'm going to one hundred percent it was just I 478 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,160 had to be denying what was gone. It was denial 479 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:17,799 because I didn't know what to think. And like I said, 480 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,160 looking at it, after I saw. 481 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,519 Speaker 1: One of them, it all made sense. 482 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course that's what this was all the of course, 483 00:26:29,079 --> 00:26:32,119 the thing with hands was opening the doors. Of course, 484 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,920 the thing with hands is what's hitting the house at night. 485 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 3: I know you don't like talking about the bathroom window, 486 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,759 but I did have a question about the bathroom window. Yes, 487 00:26:44,599 --> 00:26:46,319 how high up was it off the ground? 488 00:26:47,319 --> 00:26:52,839 Speaker 2: The window itself probably sat about seven or seven and 489 00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:55,680 a half feet off the ground, and. 490 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 3: The one that you saw by the pond. 491 00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: Would probably not have been tall enough. 492 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, to look in the window that Yep, that is 493 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,519 something I have not thought about. 494 00:27:09,799 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: That is even scarier. 495 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 3: I just. 496 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: So big. Yeah, right, that's somebody else's problem with this. 497 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so there is that way to look 498 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,359 at it. But I mean, I just think that reaffirms 499 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,079 your suspicions that there is more than one. You know, 500 00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:30,440 I agree with you totally. I believe there is one 501 00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:35,599 that was, you know, standing guard over the property, standing 502 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,720 watch or whatever, and alerting at least one other one 503 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,240 whenever someone would come outside. 504 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't is it Hey, he's out here, 505 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,039 or is it Hey when he goes back in, it's 506 00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:50,759 time to check if the. 507 00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: Doors are unlocked. 508 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 2: I know, it's questions I'll never get answered, but you know, 509 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,920 it's things I think about now. What were they doing 510 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,319 and what was going on when I wasn't home? 511 00:28:01,839 --> 00:28:04,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of rabbit holes you can 512 00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:10,200 go down with this, I know. You know again experiences 513 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,720 that I've heard about over the years. You can't be 514 00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:17,400 on both sides of a house at the same time, right, 515 00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:21,319 so like they can literally just be playing ring around 516 00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:23,000 the rosie with you and you wouldn't even know it. 517 00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:25,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. 518 00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I have a feeling as scary as it was, 519 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:38,200 I'm sure obviously they weren't acting aggressive, so that's a plus. Yeah, 520 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,440 and I think that you were probably being watched and 521 00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:44,640 a lot closer to them than you realize. 522 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,039 Speaker 2: I again, I'm not there anymore, so I don't I 523 00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:52,319 shouldn't feel as stressed about that statement. 524 00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: No, No, thats just. 525 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 3: But I mean they didn't they didn't take your dogs 526 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,960 or anything, right, Yeah, there was no How can I 527 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,920 say this violent taking of chickens or a violent taking 528 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,680 a buster? Yeah, you know it seemed like they were 529 00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:17,240 just using it as like an extra food source, just 530 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,240 being opportunistic. 531 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and it's winter, can't find anything else, 532 00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:26,160 time to go steal some chickens. 533 00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:30,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, the the interesting thing about the chickens, though, 534 00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:32,319 that I just can't get out of my head is 535 00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:35,519 to get the chickens, they have to undo the latch. 536 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,960 But then they also have to put the hook back through. Yeah, 537 00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:41,200 they have to relock. 538 00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:44,119 Speaker 2: Correct, which is why I think it was easy for 539 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,200 me to deny. It had to be teenagers. It had 540 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,680 to be somebody sneaking over the property. 541 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: Why. 542 00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:48,599 Speaker 1: I don't know why. 543 00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:52,079 Speaker 2: Why I think people would come steal a chicken or two, 544 00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:54,839 but it had to be a person because the doors 545 00:29:54,839 --> 00:29:55,559 were still locked. 546 00:29:56,319 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: But why would a person still a chicken, you know, 547 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,160 And why would they take just one chicken? And why 548 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,920 would they bother re locking the doors. 549 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,319 Speaker 2: I guess that's the whole denial thing. My brain wanted 550 00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:08,759 to say, this is what makes sense. 551 00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I can't pretend like I know why they 552 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:18,039 do the things that they do or their thought process, right, 553 00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:21,480 But a lot of this seems like doing things to 554 00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:25,480 see how you're going to react or what you would 555 00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:30,680 do about it. Okay, Okay, Now, whenever you put padlocks 556 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,279 on everything where they couldn't just undo them, that's whenever 557 00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:35,920 the slap int of the house started. 558 00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:40,519 Speaker 1: Yep, which I now think like they were irritated. 559 00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you never had any reason to believe. I mean, 560 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,279 there was no like rock throwing going on or anything. 561 00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:51,359 I never had anything thrown, nothing hitting the roof of 562 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:51,880 the house. 563 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:53,519 Speaker 1: Nope. 564 00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: It just always sounded like somebody ran up and open 565 00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:58,799 pumps back the back wall. 566 00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: And the first time that happened, you ran outside to 567 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,160 see what it was. 568 00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:07,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, several times over the course of that first year 569 00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:08,839 that it happened, I would. 570 00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:12,359 Speaker 1: I mean it got to the point where I kept 571 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,119 a spotlight. 572 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: At the front and back door because I didn't want 573 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,400 to waste time trying to ruck and get the light. 574 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but. 575 00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:27,519 Speaker 2: Looking at like how it laid out, fifteen twenty feet 576 00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:30,200 and in pretty much any direction you were in cover 577 00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:35,400 from the house, So it's not like I was ever 578 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,160 going to catch him. Every now and then, like I said, 579 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,599 I would hear something bulldozing through the brush, or i'd 580 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,000 catch the still a wet or shadow just darting, but 581 00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:50,519 never got a clear sight until the one was at 582 00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:52,720 the pond, and I think that I only got lucky 583 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,119 with that because it was out in the open and 584 00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:56,960 just didn't happen to hear me open the door. 585 00:31:57,799 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: Did it happen at a normal time that you got 586 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,799 side though. 587 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,359 Speaker 1: I honestly no. 588 00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: It would have been later, like nine am, So it 589 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,160 would have been because I'd already fed that morning, so 590 00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:13,359 they might have just thought I was done. 591 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: For the day. 592 00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: You've already done your routine, so yeah, it's safe to 593 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:17,640 come out now. 594 00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:21,279 Speaker 1: I never thought about that, Begeka. It was much later 595 00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:21,839 in the morning. 596 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:28,559 Speaker 3: And then nothing with the vehicles that seemed suspicious. 597 00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:28,799 Speaker 2: Not that I can recall. I don't remember the cars 598 00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:32,079 ever being messed with. Never, the cars were never messed with. 599 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,079 Had a tractor that never seemed to get messed with. 600 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 3: Like a lot of times when people have them coming 601 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,160 around like that, if they use like a tractor or 602 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,720 a chainsaw or a lawnmower or something like that, sometimes 603 00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:55,279 there's aggressive reactions to that. There's some bluff charges, are 604 00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:58,000 screaming or things like that. 605 00:32:58,319 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: I can't say no. 606 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: The only scream I ever heard was right after a 607 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,240 few weeks after we first moved in around Thanksgiving. That's 608 00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:08,400 the only scream. After that, it was all whistles, knocks 609 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,279 and hitting the house. Yeah that first, Yeah, that's the 610 00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:13,480 only scream I can recall. 611 00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:16,759 Speaker 3: And how remote was this? 612 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,039 Speaker 2: Like? 613 00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:18,799 Speaker 3: Where was your closest neighbor. 614 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: The closest While there were several vacant houses down that way, 615 00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:27,000 I would say my closest neighbor was about. 616 00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: A mile and a half away, so a good bit. 617 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: A good bit then nobody would have heard me scream. 618 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 3: Was there any water sources other than the pond? 619 00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:46,559 Speaker 2: There was a across the road for me in the 620 00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:48,119 wildlife area was. 621 00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: Like a swampy bog. 622 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 2: It was only like four or five inches deep, But 623 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,799 I mean it was acres of just still water, which 624 00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:05,440 doesn't sound the greatest to drink, But right, if you're 625 00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:07,519 if you're living back there, nothing's going to come bother 626 00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:12,559 you either. And that's honestly, I think. I think they 627 00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:14,840 had to have been living the wildlife area or the 628 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,599 hillside behind me, or just and I was the hallway 629 00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:19,599 between the two rooms. 630 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And when I moved in that mess with them. 631 00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:25,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to change their route. 632 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: Right the bushogged the field down, which when I moved 633 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,719 in would have been you know, four foot tall, which 634 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,480 would have offered a lot of cover, and now it's 635 00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:35,440 just a big open field. 636 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:41,599 Speaker 3: Yeah. Might have also offered cover for other animals that 637 00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:42,639 they might have been hunting. 638 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,679 Speaker 1: That's true too. I took, I took away the native wildlife, 639 00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:49,039 so they came after my chickens. 640 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: Maybe, So, so this happened. Uh, you kind of finished 641 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,559 off in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one around and there. 642 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,559 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and we moved out the summer of twenty twenty. 643 00:35:03,039 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 3: So where are you at with everything now? 644 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: Well, the reason since I've shared my story of people 645 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,280 have asked, did you move because of Bigfoot? 646 00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: No? 647 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 2: I mean after seeing it, I was terrified to be 648 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,760 at my house. But I worked in the travel industry 649 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,079 and COVID happened and everything shut down, and you know, 650 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,000 life as I knew it changed, right, So I moved 651 00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:35,000 up to Akron. And now that I'm you know, not 652 00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:38,840 in the wilderness, and I've gone back and thought about it. 653 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,239 You know, I know what I saw. I can't think 654 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,800 of anything else that it could have been. I mean 655 00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:50,079 took me, you know, five years to you know, reconcile 656 00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:53,360 with it, but nothing else it could have been. 657 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,119 Speaker 3: You said that you listened to podcasts obviously, and m 658 00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:01,519 you started looking into it. I mean, is that something 659 00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:06,000 that you find kind of a drive to do to 660 00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:08,800 try and learn more about it? Do you have interest 661 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,079 in her? Are you wanting to just get some closer 662 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:11,880 and put it behind you? 663 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 2: I would say at this point, because I'm not living there, 664 00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:20,880 it's much more of an interest now. And like I mentioned, 665 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,239 my oldest is the one who kind of opened the 666 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,199 floodgate back into it. I don't know if he's watched 667 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,039 TV or something, but he asked me about bigfoot, and 668 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,280 you know, now he's asking to go bigfoot hunting and stuff. 669 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,559 And I'm like, I'm not quite there yet, kid, but 670 00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:39,880 we should read some books or watch a documentary. 671 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 3: But slow down. 672 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,119 Speaker 1: I don't think. 673 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,079 Speaker 2: I don't think I want to be, you know, in 674 00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:48,440 the tent with one of the things outside. 675 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 3: I mean, is it just off the table or do 676 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,920 you think you could work up to that point? 677 00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: At this point, it's off the table. But that's just me. 678 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,039 Speaker 2: It's like you said, it's not that they anything aggressive. 679 00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:04,519 I mean, I guess the most aggressive thing was looking 680 00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:07,719 in the windows. But it's the thought of these things 681 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,519 are smart enough to open and close latches, strong enough 682 00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:15,079 to pick up fifty pound bags of feed or a 683 00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:19,199 three hundred and fifty pounds pig. The potential for one 684 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,840 of them to do something nasty is there. And I'm 685 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,559 sure they're like people. You have grumpy ones and you 686 00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:27,639 have friendlier. 687 00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:28,519 Speaker 3: Ones, Yeah, for sure. 688 00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:30,679 Speaker 2: But to think that the ones I have were pretty friendly, 689 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,480 yeah they were. They were okay with just getting fed 690 00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:35,159 every now and leaving me be. 691 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a big difference between people that are 692 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,440 interested in the subject and want to see one, and 693 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,280 then people who had no interest in the subject and 694 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,000 didn't have a choice in the matter and just had 695 00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:52,440 the curtain rip back on them. Not everybody's going to 696 00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:56,320 react the same, right I will. 697 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 2: Say, I will be happy if I never see one again. 698 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,119 I could lift the rest on my day is completely 699 00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:06,239 content with networth seeing another one. I'm sure other people 700 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,760 have had similar stories, like you said, So the only 701 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,239 thing I can hope is like somebody hears it and goes, well, 702 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,760 I've done I've looked through that too. 703 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:15,599 Speaker 1: Well. 704 00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:18,559 Speaker 3: I mean, you said in your email you made a 705 00:38:18,599 --> 00:38:21,440 comment about it not being the most exciting big foot encounter, 706 00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:24,960 but I mean, this is the kind of encounter I. 707 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 1: Love the every day like this is just what they do. 708 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 3: I mean it's not every day that you know, people 709 00:38:32,159 --> 00:38:36,480 hardly experience this. But you know, you weren't like attacked, 710 00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:45,960 they didn't, you know, sea Yeah, but behavior wise, I mean, 711 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,760 there's a tremendous amount of information here. There's a lot 712 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,320 that can be learned from this. And yeah, you know 713 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,880 it might put in a piece of the puzzle to 714 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,599 somebody else that can use it. 715 00:38:56,639 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: Or fair enough, Yeah, and be helpful. I'm glad it's 716 00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:05,320 I mean, it's it's world shattering. 717 00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:09,639 Speaker 3: If you've had an experience with Bigfoot or something else 718 00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:11,880 you can't explain, you'd like to share that on the podcast, 719 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,440 email me at Bigfoot Crossroads at gmail dot com. Check 720 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,519 out the website Bigfoot Crossroads dot com. You can find 721 00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:22,239 links to social media, past episodes, merchandise, everything you need 722 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,199 all in one place. And until next time, remember there's 723 00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:28,159 something in the woods.