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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Big for Society.

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<v Speaker 2>Forward slash the big for Society, and now let's get

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<v Speaker 2>on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society, You've got

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<v Speaker 2>the privilege of talking to someone I've been wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to for a while. This is Miguel. You may

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<v Speaker 2>know him best as Sasquatch Theory, one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>channels on YouTube. Miguel, how's it going tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>Man? It's going really good. Thank you so much for asking.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you, dude? I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm up here in Iowa, so you know, it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful night out tonight, and I know you're down

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<v Speaker 2>there in Missouri, so we're we're kind of the Midwest

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<v Speaker 2>bigfoot guys. So that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a pleasure to speak with you today, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad to be a guest on your show.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely so, Miguel. You know, I usually start out by

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<v Speaker 2>by asking the guests that I have on So what

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<v Speaker 2>was What was it that first got you into bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well, got me into bigfoot for my eyesight and encounters,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've always been into the subject, and I listened

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<v Speaker 3>to Sasquatch chronicles and watched like Finding Bigfoot on TV.

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<v Speaker 3>But I had these strange experiences prior to that interest,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've always just been into the parent normal. But

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<v Speaker 3>the experiences that I had before my Bigfoot encounters kind

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<v Speaker 3>of just got me into the subject and had me

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<v Speaker 3>questioning what I what I had seen, and I've just

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<v Speaker 3>always been looking for answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 2>And the cool thing I like about your channel is

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<v Speaker 2>it's very unique because you're definitely focused on the state

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<v Speaker 2>of Missouri, and I remember thinking it was the coolest thing,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, everyone seems to be focused on your

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<v Speaker 2>Pacific Northwest, where you're Oklahoma, or maybe Ohio, maybe Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 2>but like you're very focused in on Missouri and these

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<v Speaker 2>interviews that you're getting down in Missouri are fantastic. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious, like, how did that process start to

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<v Speaker 2>come across? The people just start reaching out to you

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<v Speaker 2>and then you're like, Hey, I maybe I come out

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<v Speaker 2>to your place do an in person interview and then

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<v Speaker 2>check things out.

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<v Speaker 3>Or yeah, pretty much people heard about my channel and

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<v Speaker 3>they'd reach out to me by email or Facebook and

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<v Speaker 3>we just get to know each other and I'd go

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<v Speaker 3>out there and investigate the areas that they had the

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<v Speaker 3>activity end and just try to do the best I could.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome thinking over over the years, have you been privilege enough?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>And this is for people that you know, there might

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<v Speaker 2>be some of my listeners where there they haven't stumbled

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<v Speaker 2>upon Scotch sasquatch theory yet, which they definitely need to.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna have the link in the show notes

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<v Speaker 2>after this they can check it out. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>has there been a time when you've been able to

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<v Speaker 2>have that face to face encounter? What is what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think the closest that you've gotten to these creatures

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<v Speaker 2>over the year has been.

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<v Speaker 3>I've gotten really close several times, and I've had a

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<v Speaker 3>handful of Class A encounters. My first experience started off

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<v Speaker 3>whenever I was around ten years old. I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>give or take. Maybe I was nine, maybe I was eleven,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm gonna say ten. I was sitting here in

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<v Speaker 3>my bedroom. It was probably July, and I had the

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<v Speaker 3>window open and I was sitting there watching TV. I

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<v Speaker 3>remember watching Family Guy on Cartoon Network, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>probably anywhere from around nine thirty pm to eleven PM.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember what time the show aired, but I

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<v Speaker 3>was just sitting there watching the show. I had my

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<v Speaker 3>computer on and I was just using Messenger or I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was like all at the time or MySpace.

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<v Speaker 3>But all of a sudden, I heard this werewolf how

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was deep, guttural, and it sounded just

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<v Speaker 3>like what you'd hear on the Hollywood movies, and it

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<v Speaker 3>just sounded like it was being blasted through a PA system.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so loud that whenever I heard it, it

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<v Speaker 3>just terrified me. The first thought that came across my

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<v Speaker 3>mind was that's a monster. And then I started thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe that's my brother out there playing a prank on me,

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<v Speaker 3>and I didn't know what to do, so I went

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<v Speaker 3>up to the window and just slammed it shut, crawled

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<v Speaker 3>up into my bed, got under the covers, and I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't come out till the next morning. It really freaked out.

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<v Speaker 2>That has got to definitely put you on a path,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's something that doesn't leave your mind easy, for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The one thing I forgot to mention that like

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<v Speaker 3>it did this werewolf, how it lasted like five seconds

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<v Speaker 3>or so, and then after the werewolf, how something screamed

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<v Speaker 3>like a woman. So later on, after I learned about

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<v Speaker 3>the cryptids, bigfoot, dog man, I thought maybe like a

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<v Speaker 3>bigfoot challenged a dog man or they ran into each

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<v Speaker 3>other in the woods. But I also learned that dog

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<v Speaker 3>man can scream like a woman. And I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 3>because I've never seen one for sure. But it was

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<v Speaker 3>just a crazy experience.

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<v Speaker 2>In the years after that, and then looking back and

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<v Speaker 2>you have all this this knowledge now and how to

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<v Speaker 2>research things, did you ever look into that area where

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<v Speaker 2>this happened to see if there were other sightings and

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<v Speaker 2>encounters of dog man or bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I recently looked up on the I can't remember

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<v Speaker 3>what it's called. The dog man mapping project or something.

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<v Speaker 3>And there weren't that many reports in Missouri. There were several,

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<v Speaker 3>but they were spread across the state. But the one

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<v Speaker 3>that was close to where I heard this vocalization is

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<v Speaker 3>probably like five miles down the road. So it's the

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<v Speaker 3>same area.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that that is wild.

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<v Speaker 2>So after you had that in you know, that auditory encounter,

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<v Speaker 2>did that kind of set you off on the trail

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<v Speaker 2>to start looking into things or did that happen a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit later in life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that happened later on in life. I really didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know what that was, and I always just kind of wondered,

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<v Speaker 3>what the heck did I hear that day? Maybe somebody

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<v Speaker 3>is playing a prank on me. And the next thing

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<v Speaker 3>that happened was I was in high school. Me and

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<v Speaker 3>my buddy Bruce. After school in the evening, we decided

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<v Speaker 3>to go down to the Merrimack River and we took

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<v Speaker 3>old Route sixty six to get there. We got off

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<v Speaker 3>on a road called I think it's called Highway KK,

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<v Speaker 3>and we were driving down that highway. It was getting late.

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<v Speaker 3>The was still out, but it was almost dark time.

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<v Speaker 3>And as we crossed the train tracks went around a

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<v Speaker 3>few curves we're going down the steep hill, and all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, my buddy Bruce sees this possum crossing

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<v Speaker 3>the road, and it's a pretty big possum. So he

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<v Speaker 3>decides to step on the gas and we're going like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, seventy eighty miles an hour on the state highway,

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<v Speaker 3>and as we're getting close to the possum, you can

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<v Speaker 3>see the headlights lighting up the creature, the critter, and

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<v Speaker 3>then all of a sudden, this canine creature dives out

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<v Speaker 3>of the woods and then into the middle of the highway,

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<v Speaker 3>snatches up this possum, throws it up in the air,

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<v Speaker 3>and then shakes it around like a rag doll, and

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<v Speaker 3>then tears back off into the woods. The creature was

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<v Speaker 3>like a gray color, similar to a blue pit Its

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<v Speaker 3>head was the shape of like a giant pit bull,

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<v Speaker 3>but the snout was more like a hyena or like

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<v Speaker 3>a wolf, and had these pointy ears that were probably

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<v Speaker 3>like anywhere from three to five inches long, and the

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<v Speaker 3>hair on its body was really short, but the fur

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<v Speaker 3>hair around its neck was really long, similar to a lion.

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<v Speaker 3>And this thing was built like a lion, honestly, like

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<v Speaker 3>it was that big, had a huge chest and long

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<v Speaker 3>front arms, and the back legs were smaller than the

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<v Speaker 3>front legs. It was more like, I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 3>a chihuah or something. As far as like the back legs,

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<v Speaker 3>it's really hard to describe. I never seen this creature

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<v Speaker 3>get up on two legs. It was on all fours

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<v Speaker 3>the whole time. But people refer to them as like

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<v Speaker 3>hell hounds. I don't know if it was a dog man.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people say dog men start off on all fours

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<v Speaker 3>and later on in life they're able to stand up

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<v Speaker 3>and walk. But after we passed the scene where the

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<v Speaker 3>creature came out, and my buddy slows down, hits the

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<v Speaker 3>brakes and he goes, WHOA, did you see that? And

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<v Speaker 3>I said yeah. We were both just kind of shocked,

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<v Speaker 3>and we didn't really say much after we encountered that creature,

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<v Speaker 3>and we just kind of kept driving in silence. And

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<v Speaker 3>it was years later. I asked my friend Bruce, I

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<v Speaker 3>I hadn't seen him in a long time. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>remember that canine creature that we on HIGHWAYKK? And he

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<v Speaker 3>said no, And that that blew my mind because, like

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, when you see something like that, you

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<v Speaker 3>should never forget it, and I don't know if he

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<v Speaker 3>was just gaslighting me or if he really didn't remember.

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<v Speaker 3>But the incident did happen close to the Merrimack River

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<v Speaker 3>and HIGHWAYKK leads to a road called Riverside Road, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've had sasquatch experiences in that area.

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<v Speaker 2>That is that is intense, dude. I mean, so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't get a lot into the dog band thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>primarily stick with Bigfoot, but every once in a while

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<v Speaker 2>some dog band stuff does sneak through. And I believe

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not super familiar with the Merrimack River area, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's down near isn't near Mark Twain and Saint Louis

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<v Speaker 2>down there in that corner.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more of a central Missouri. I mean, it's probably

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<v Speaker 3>twenty thirty minutes away from the Mark Twain National Forest.

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<v Speaker 3>But the reason I mentioned these encounters is because years later,

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<v Speaker 3>I have big Foot experiences in these exact same areas,

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<v Speaker 3>So I kind of feel like it's tied in together.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not really sure because I've never seen them together

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time. But like I said, with the

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<v Speaker 3>first experience where it howled and then something screamed like

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<v Speaker 3>a woman, I had the feeling that it was bigfoot

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<v Speaker 3>along with the canine creature. And then where I seen

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<v Speaker 3>this what people call hellhound jump out into the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the highway that's pretty much a mile away or

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<v Speaker 3>less where I have these intense experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>Later on, you have this intense sighting of a hell

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<v Speaker 2>hound or a dog man, whatever creature it is, does

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<v Speaker 2>that set you then on this path to figuring out

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<v Speaker 2>what it is we have out there?

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all, because after I seen that canine creature,

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<v Speaker 3>I just kind of thought maybe somebody's like giant chow

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<v Speaker 3>mixed with like another giant dog, and then it grew

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<v Speaker 3>up to be wild, you know, something like kujo. But

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I just did really think cryptid. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know what cryptids were at that time, and I

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<v Speaker 3>the time, we went camping at the Merrimack River and like,

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<v Speaker 3>And I did a few loud whoops like I heard

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<v Speaker 3>on the show Finding Finding Bigfoot, and even her son

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<v Speaker 3>he was doing whoops. And we were just out there

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<v Speaker 3>kind of joking about the subject. All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>we hear this giant tree come crashing down across the river,

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<v Speaker 3>and I mean you could hear like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>got quiet after that. So we all we looked at

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<v Speaker 3>each other like, what the heck did you hear that?

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<v Speaker 3>And we didn't really know what it was. It was

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of strange that that happened after we did

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<v Speaker 3>the wood knock, so we didn't really think too much

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<v Speaker 3>of it. And later on that evening, all the floaters

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<v Speaker 3>and she ended up putting her son to bed early,

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<v Speaker 3>and we had a campfire going on, and we were

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<v Speaker 3>sitting there talking about Bigfoot once again and how crazy

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<v Speaker 3>it was that a tree came crashing down. We never

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<v Speaker 3>just thought that was unusual, Okay, it's kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 3>And as we're sitting there talking, it's completely dark outside,

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<v Speaker 3>it sounds like a metal screamer like the vocalists from

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<v Speaker 3>as La Dying or All That Remains if you ever

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<v Speaker 3>heard those bands, and it sounded similar to what I

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<v Speaker 3>heard whenever I heard that dog man howl. And then

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<v Speaker 3>after the howl, how I heard that scream, that scream

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<v Speaker 3>like a woman. It was very similar to that, but

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more powerful. It was the same velocity, like

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<v Speaker 3>the same level, but just a lot I wouldn't say deeper,

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<v Speaker 3>but it just sounded more intense. This is the best

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<v Speaker 3>way I can say it. But the vocalization lasted anywhere

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<v Speaker 3>from five to eight seconds, and it was probably about

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<v Speaker 3>nine feet off the ground, maybe even higher. But on

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<v Speaker 3>that river bottom, it's really flat, like there's a good

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<v Speaker 3>distance behind us where it's completely flat, So there's a

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<v Speaker 3>big bluff and it starts to gradually go up. But

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<v Speaker 3>the girlfriend at the time, she looks at me and

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<v Speaker 3>she says, grab your gun. Grab your gun. And I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't go for my pistol because I felt like, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>this thing was, or whatever it is, it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>come and tear us apart if I grab that pistol.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was just a feeling that I got. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that would have happened, but I

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<v Speaker 3>felt like if I would have went for my glock nineteen,

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<v Speaker 3>this thing would have came into camp and tore us apart.

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<v Speaker 3>But she was pretty terrified. I was more dumbfounded, like

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<v Speaker 3>in shock. I honestly had this little smirk, this crap

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<v Speaker 3>eating grin on my face because I couldn't believe that

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<v Speaker 3>that just took place. And we ended up going inside

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<v Speaker 3>the tent. We didn't really talk about it much, and

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<v Speaker 3>nothing else happened that night. We woke up the next morning,

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<v Speaker 3>everything was all right. We were still alive, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just something that we talked about ever since. And at

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<v Speaker 3>this point, I still don't think it's bigfoot. Like whenever

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<v Speaker 3>it happened, in my mind, I was like, that's bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 3>But after you hear something like that without seeing that,

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<v Speaker 3>your mind shifts back to reality. Like maybe it was

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<v Speaker 3>a mountain lion that climbed up into the tree about

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<v Speaker 3>nine feet and screamed at us. You know, maybe it

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<v Speaker 3>was whatever. But I don't know. I just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>went back and forth and just kind of shook my

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<v Speaker 3>head and disbelief because I couldn't figure it out. Later on,

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<v Speaker 3>after that we were back in my house. This is

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<v Speaker 3>probably months later, and I mean a lot of what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to tell you guys, after this, I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of feel like these creatures followed me. They tagged me,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just kind of hard to believe that I've

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<v Speaker 3>had these this amount of encounters and experiences. But everything

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you is the truth. So I'm back in

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<v Speaker 3>my house and I was thinking about the every incident

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<v Speaker 3>where I did the woodknox and did the whoop and

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<v Speaker 3>got reaction. And I was on my back deck after

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<v Speaker 3>work one day and it was getting late in the

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<v Speaker 3>evening and I did that same whoop that I did

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<v Speaker 3>on the Merrimack River, just a loud whoop, and a

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<v Speaker 3>few seconds after that, you can hear something crashing through

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<v Speaker 3>the woods. It sounds like somebody is driving a bulldozer

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<v Speaker 3>through the woods, or like someone put an S ten

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<v Speaker 3>pickup truck in neutral and just let it roll down

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<v Speaker 3>the hill. And it's just like tearing through branches.

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<v Speaker 2>Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this thing's like zigzagging towards me from the woods.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm on my deck. There's like a backyard that's

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<v Speaker 3>probably an acre long. And I go back inside and

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<v Speaker 3>I tell my ex, like, hey, something's out there, like

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<v Speaker 3>something's coming through the woods. She comes out, she's standing

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<v Speaker 3>on the deck. She can hear it too. This thing's

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<v Speaker 3>crashing through the woods. You can hear saplings just snapping

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<v Speaker 3>like toothpicks, and all of a sudden, like it stops

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<v Speaker 3>at the edge of the woodline. By this point, it's

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<v Speaker 3>almost completely dark outside. There's still some light, but whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it is, it just stops at the edge of the

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<v Speaker 3>woodline and everything's silent. But I don't know what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time, I didn't know what it was, but

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, now I know it's bigfoot, and it blew

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<v Speaker 3>my mind. Honestly. There was a few incidents there at

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<v Speaker 3>next to my computer desk, and you just hear tap, tap, tap,

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<v Speaker 3>and it kind of sounded like nails clicking on the window.

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<v Speaker 3>That happened about two or three times, and the last

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<v Speaker 3>time it happened, I grabbed my clock and I immediately

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<v Speaker 3>ran outside the front door and ran around the house,

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<v Speaker 3>and there was just nothing there. But there was a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of stuff that happened in that house, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of paranormal activity. One time I was standing out there

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<v Speaker 3>and I was staring at the stars, and I thought

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<v Speaker 3>I was looking at like Venus or Mars, because it

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<v Speaker 3>was like this bright orange red color, and all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden, that star just gets like closer and closer,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like the size of the basketball, and it

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<v Speaker 3>starts moving around the house and I can get my

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<v Speaker 3>ex girlfriend again. I tell her to come out there.

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<v Speaker 3>She's looking at it with me, and this thing starts

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<v Speaker 3>changing colors. It kind of looks like an ambulance light

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<v Speaker 3>or like a disco ball, and it's like radiating different colors.

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<v Speaker 3>All of a sudden, it shoots off, like at a

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<v Speaker 3>nine degree angle into space, and like it was so fast.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even tell you like how fast it was

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<v Speaker 3>because it looked like it just got sucked up by

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<v Speaker 3>like a vacuum cleaner. But the strange part about it

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<v Speaker 3>is that I was having cryptid experiences out there, paranormal

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<v Speaker 3>things happening, and like strange UFO stuff all at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time. So I can't really say it if it's

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<v Speaker 3>all related, or if I just kind of got lucky,

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<v Speaker 3>or you know, I kind of considered it a curse.

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<v Speaker 3>But after that, let's see what else happened. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 3>it was a few years after that, and I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>living at that place, anymore. Me and that girl completely

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<v Speaker 3>split up, and I was working at a different job

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<v Speaker 3>at the time. I started working at a meat processing

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<v Speaker 3>plant at the time, just to make some money while

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<v Speaker 3>I was in between jobs. And that day I talked

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<v Speaker 3>to the owner of the business and I was asking him, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know any good areas that I can go

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<v Speaker 3>bow hunt? So he described this area that's covered in deer.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, if you don't go there and see thirty deer,

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<v Speaker 3>then you've done something wrong. So I asked him, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>tell me where it's at, give me some direction, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was kind enough to show me where this area

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<v Speaker 3>was at, and he wrote down on a napkin like

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<v Speaker 3>the road where to go down, and just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>gave me the direction. So that day after work, it

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<v Speaker 3>was a Friday. It was September fourteenth. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 3>the year right now, I think like twenty eighteen or

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen twenty eighteen. And I head down there after work

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm driving my Mustang. Whenever I get to the

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<v Speaker 3>end of this dead end road on the back side

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<v Speaker 3>of this state land and it's pretty close to Merrimack springs.

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<v Speaker 3>So if anyone listening is curious to where this encounter

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<v Speaker 3>took place, it's pretty close to that area. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 3>I get out of my car, I shut the door,

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<v Speaker 3>I go to the edge of the cliff. The cliff

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<v Speaker 3>overlooks the entire state park and the Merrimack River is

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<v Speaker 3>right down below. But whenever I turn around and walk

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<v Speaker 3>back to my car, I see this creature on all

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<v Speaker 3>fours scurry behind a tree, and it looked like a chimpanzee, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>like moving on all fours. But at the time, I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>is that a group of turkeys? Maybe that's a black bear,

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe it's a hog. There are hogs out here.

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<v Speaker 3>But whenever I last saw the creature, it was upright

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<v Speaker 3>and it slowly hid behind the tree, and all I

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<v Speaker 3>saw was like this jet black creature and you could

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<v Speaker 3>see like this furry arm slowly hide behind the tree. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>whenever it hid behind the tree, I never saw it again.

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<v Speaker 3>I just kept my eyes fixed on that oak tree

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<v Speaker 3>and then just nothing ever happened. So I just thought, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that was weird. I just couldn't figure out exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>had happened or what it was, So that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>left me with a lot of questions, and I walked

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<v Speaker 3>out of that area thinking I saw a black bear

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<v Speaker 3>because I'd never seen a black bear before at that time,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's the only thing that my brain couldn't rationalize.

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<v Speaker 3>So the next set of encounters take place where I

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<v Speaker 3>like these things have followed me around two different areas. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to the grocery store one day, and

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<v Speaker 3>as I'm coming back home, I stopped my Mustang at

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<v Speaker 3>have to walk all the way back up here. Might

419
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<v Speaker 3>as well check it right now. So I got out

420
00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:37.319
<v Speaker 3>of my car and I walked down to my trail

421
00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:40.000
<v Speaker 3>camera and grabbed the SD card and walked back up

422
00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:43.640
<v Speaker 3>to my vehicle. As I'm just I'm standing there and

423
00:22:43.759 --> 00:22:47.279
<v Speaker 3>just watching the woods and messing around on my phone,

424
00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:50.119
<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden, I hear this loud, sharp

425
00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:53.400
<v Speaker 3>whistle to my left, and it sounds like a like

426
00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:57.359
<v Speaker 3>a cattle rancher, like calling his dogs or you know,

427
00:22:57.559 --> 00:22:59.960
<v Speaker 3>trying to get the animals back in just a loud

428
00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:03.000
<v Speaker 3>sharp whistle, and then a few seconds later, right in

429
00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:06.000
<v Speaker 3>front of me, about thirty or forty yards into the woods,

430
00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:09.559
<v Speaker 3>I hear another whistle, but this whistle sounds like the

431
00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:11.799
<v Speaker 3>first one, but it's dual tone, so like there's that

432
00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:16.480
<v Speaker 3>high pitch sound and like this low whistle along with it.

433
00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:19.640
<v Speaker 3>And then a few seconds after that, to my right,

434
00:23:20.119 --> 00:23:22.559
<v Speaker 3>I hear another whistle. So whatever it is kind of

435
00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:27.839
<v Speaker 3>triangulated around me. And I mean, again, I can't my

436
00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:30.519
<v Speaker 3>brain isn't going to bigfoot, Like part of me thinks,

437
00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:33.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, what, if it's sasquatch. I've never seen one.

438
00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:37.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't really know if they exist. But I'm just

439
00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:39.279
<v Speaker 3>trying to figure out where it is. And I'm thinking

440
00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:42.680
<v Speaker 3>maybe it's trespassers, it's poachers. There's people watching me in

441
00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:45.640
<v Speaker 3>the woods, and I just wanted to figure out who

442
00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:47.400
<v Speaker 3>was out there, so I kind of kept going out

443
00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:50.240
<v Speaker 3>into the woods ever since that incident. It was after

444
00:23:50.279 --> 00:23:53.240
<v Speaker 3>the whistle, I went back home and thought about it

445
00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:55.200
<v Speaker 3>a lot, and I just kept wondering. So I went

446
00:23:55.279 --> 00:23:58.119
<v Speaker 3>back up there about an hour later, and it was

447
00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:00.880
<v Speaker 3>just about dark time. Whenever I got back up on

448
00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:03.880
<v Speaker 3>top of the driveway, and I seen these two orange

449
00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:07.920
<v Speaker 3>orbs floating through the woods, and in my mind, I thought,

450
00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:11.400
<v Speaker 3>maybe that's people walking with cell phones in their hands

451
00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:14.839
<v Speaker 3>so they can see, or maybe they have lanterns, because

452
00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:16.359
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of what it looked like. It looked like

453
00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:19.400
<v Speaker 3>two people out there with lanterns. But I just got this,

454
00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:22.519
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, like this dark feeling that told me

455
00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:25.799
<v Speaker 3>don't go near. And I didn't because whatever it was

456
00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:27.720
<v Speaker 3>kind of freaked me out. I didn't know what I

457
00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:31.359
<v Speaker 3>had just witnessed. I mean, honestly, it was hard to say,

458
00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:34.720
<v Speaker 3>but there I did see him pretty close, and they

459
00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:37.119
<v Speaker 3>were like a little bit smaller than a basketball and

460
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:42.240
<v Speaker 3>they're like in orange yellow color. But after that, I

461
00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:45.039
<v Speaker 3>walked back home. At this point, it's completely dark. So

462
00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm walking back home, it's completely dark. I'm going down

463
00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:51.599
<v Speaker 3>this gravel road, and when I get halfway down the driveway,

464
00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:55.079
<v Speaker 3>I hear this loud thumb just it sounded like a

465
00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:58.519
<v Speaker 3>big buck just jumped up, but I never heard it

466
00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:03.039
<v Speaker 3>run off. So like after I heard that, the hairs

467
00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:05.359
<v Speaker 3>on the back of my neck completely stood up, like

468
00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:09.480
<v Speaker 3>I had this electrifying feeling that overtook my body and

469
00:25:09.559 --> 00:25:11.880
<v Speaker 3>it was feared. And then all of a sudden, I

470
00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:17.519
<v Speaker 3>hear these three loops just whoooo, and it sounds like

471
00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:21.000
<v Speaker 3>something's coming at me, like on all fours, and I

472
00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:24.200
<v Speaker 3>just kind of stand my ground and it stops whatever

473
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:26.920
<v Speaker 3>it is, and I could feel that something was there,

474
00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:29.559
<v Speaker 3>it was just too dark to tell. So at this point,

475
00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:32.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm really like questioning things, like what the heck's going on.

476
00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:35.759
<v Speaker 3>I start watching a lot of shows and I heard

477
00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:39.079
<v Speaker 3>that bigfoot will whistle at you. I was listening to

478
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:41.319
<v Speaker 3>this lady in the Himalayan Mountains. She claims that she

479
00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:43.839
<v Speaker 3>got picked up by a bigfoot whenever she woke up,

480
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:46.519
<v Speaker 3>because I guess she passed out. She said she was

481
00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:48.480
<v Speaker 3>looking at a bigfoot and whistled at her. So I

482
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:52.440
<v Speaker 3>was like, whoa, these things do whistle. So that really

483
00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:55.079
<v Speaker 3>got me into the subject, and I really kept going

484
00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:58.400
<v Speaker 3>out there after that. I kept exploring that forest and

485
00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:01.519
<v Speaker 3>all around my land. Day I went out there, it

486
00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:06.480
<v Speaker 3>was probably June twenty nineteen, in the middle of the summer,

487
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:10.640
<v Speaker 3>and I was looking for shantrail mushrooms at the time

488
00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:14.400
<v Speaker 3>and just kind of seeking answers as to what I

489
00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:20.000
<v Speaker 3>had experienced previously. So I'm picking mushrooms one day and

490
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:23.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of zigzagging through the woods, going to different patches,

491
00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:26.759
<v Speaker 3>and I have this camouflage backpack and I'm filling them

492
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:30.599
<v Speaker 3>up with shantrail mushrooms. As I'm making my way back home,

493
00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:35.079
<v Speaker 3>I am walking down that same driveway where I had

494
00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:38.640
<v Speaker 3>the whistle, seeing the orbs, heard the thump, and heard

495
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:42.039
<v Speaker 3>the whoops. I'm walking back. I'm almost to my driveway.

496
00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:44.960
<v Speaker 3>I can start to see my Mustang, and I hear

497
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:48.200
<v Speaker 3>this little shuffling noise in the leaves. So I look

498
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.799
<v Speaker 3>over to my left and I don't see anything. There's

499
00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:54.440
<v Speaker 3>this black shape and I'm like, oh, okay, that's a stump.

500
00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:56.519
<v Speaker 3>It must have been like a squirrel or like a

501
00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:59.039
<v Speaker 3>robin in the woods, because that's how loud it was.

502
00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:02.079
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't very loud. It's just something caught my attention.

503
00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:04.960
<v Speaker 3>So I take another three steps and I hear that

504
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:07.960
<v Speaker 3>same sound again. So I look back over, and when

505
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:12.680
<v Speaker 3>I do, this creature stands up and starts walking off

506
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:19.000
<v Speaker 3>in the woods. The creature looked similar to the Patterson

507
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:22.079
<v Speaker 3>Gimlin footage as far as how it walked and how

508
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:25.480
<v Speaker 3>it looked at me, but it looked different like it

509
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:28.599
<v Speaker 3>had the same facial features, but it was a completely

510
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:31.400
<v Speaker 3>different look. This creature was probably anywhere from six and

511
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:34.160
<v Speaker 3>a half eight feet tall. It had a round head.

512
00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:38.680
<v Speaker 3>It had these black almond shaped eyes that would pierce

513
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:42.119
<v Speaker 3>through your soul. I mean, it looked mean you wouldn't

514
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:44.960
<v Speaker 3>want to mess with this creature. It had this flat nose,

515
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.319
<v Speaker 3>long thin lips, and its skin like I don't know

516
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:50.799
<v Speaker 3>how to explain it, but this thing looked ancient. You

517
00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:54.039
<v Speaker 3>know if you when you look at like old Native

518
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:58.039
<v Speaker 3>American photos, how wrinkly their skin is and leathery, like,

519
00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:02.480
<v Speaker 3>that's what it looked like. And like the color of

520
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:06.359
<v Speaker 3>the creature was black like you think you've seen like

521
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:08.799
<v Speaker 3>a black creature as far as like looking at someone's

522
00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:13.839
<v Speaker 3>jet black housecat or whatever, like a chimpanzee. These creatures

523
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:16.839
<v Speaker 3>are way darker. Like when I say jet black, it's

524
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:20.640
<v Speaker 3>jet black like ink black. And it was really broad

525
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:24.480
<v Speaker 3>at the shoulders, had like a big chest, and had

526
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:28.000
<v Speaker 3>these whitish gray stripes going down its back from its

527
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:30.720
<v Speaker 3>shoulder blade right above its butt, and it had two

528
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.079
<v Speaker 3>of them, and it kind of reminded me of like

529
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 3>a skunk or a lemur. Well, as I'm standing there

530
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:40.160
<v Speaker 3>in shock, this creature like looks over at me a

531
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:43.119
<v Speaker 3>few times and glances over its shoulder. I guess to

532
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:46.200
<v Speaker 3>see if I got a gun or a camera or something.

533
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:48.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure, but it looked over at me about

534
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.839
<v Speaker 3>two or three times, and I got to see it

535
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.519
<v Speaker 3>for a good five to eight seconds, and then it

536
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:58.440
<v Speaker 3>walked off and disappeared into the cedar and oak trees.

537
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 3>So at that point, I snap back into reality and

538
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:05.400
<v Speaker 3>I take off running. I'm taking off running back towards

539
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:09.000
<v Speaker 3>my driveway. I cut through the yard and I head

540
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:13.079
<v Speaker 3>towards where this creature had gone. I'm trying to cut

541
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:14.799
<v Speaker 3>it off so I can see it again because I

542
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:18.880
<v Speaker 3>couldn't believe what I had just experienced. And I get

543
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.000
<v Speaker 3>back into the woods. I step over the barbed wire

544
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:24.839
<v Speaker 3>fence and I take a few steps into the woods,

545
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:27.119
<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden, I hear this huffing sound.

546
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:34.599
<v Speaker 3>I go and I just get this dark feeling that

547
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:39.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It takes over and I know that

548
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:43.799
<v Speaker 3>what I just heard is the same creature that I encountered,

549
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:45.839
<v Speaker 3>and there was no way I was going to take

550
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:48.240
<v Speaker 3>another step closer into the woods. Well, a lot of

551
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:51.799
<v Speaker 3>people who have heard me talk about this huffing sound. Say, oh,

552
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:54.000
<v Speaker 3>that's just a white tailed deer. They're blowing at you.

553
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:56.799
<v Speaker 3>But I tell you, like, I've grown up in Missouri

554
00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.599
<v Speaker 3>since i was a little bitty kid, and I've jumped

555
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.079
<v Speaker 3>so many white tails in my life. I've hunted so

556
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:04.799
<v Speaker 3>many times. I know what they sound like when you

557
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:09.039
<v Speaker 3>spook them. Like this was different. This was like a horse,

558
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:11.599
<v Speaker 3>like you could tell it had a bigger set of lungs.

559
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 3>And not to mention, I just encountered the creature. I

560
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:17.200
<v Speaker 3>just saw it. So that's what it was, because that's

561
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:19.839
<v Speaker 3>the exact direction it was heading. It was going towards

562
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:22.599
<v Speaker 3>the creek bottom. After it stood up and I encountered it,

563
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:24.839
<v Speaker 3>and I just didn't want to go in the woods.

564
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:26.519
<v Speaker 3>I got this feeling that if I go in there,

565
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm not coming back out alive. So I walked back

566
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:32.400
<v Speaker 3>up to the house. I'm shaking my head. I can't

567
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:37.400
<v Speaker 3>believe it, Like these creatures exist, Like everything everyone has

568
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:40.640
<v Speaker 3>been saying is true. Like I thought all those people

569
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:43.359
<v Speaker 3>were crazy, all the people that said all bigfoots out there,

570
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:47.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, the people that shared their experiences in the past.

571
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:49.519
<v Speaker 3>I didn't think they're all crazy. I mean part of

572
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:51.359
<v Speaker 3>me wanted to believe That's why I was into it,

573
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.400
<v Speaker 3>but I'd always you know, snapped back to reality, like

574
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:58.119
<v Speaker 3>they don't exist. It's a cool story, but they don't exist.

575
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:01.640
<v Speaker 3>I never ridiculed anyone, and I wanted to believe like

576
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 3>they sounded sincere. When I'd listen to people in Sasquatch chronicles,

577
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, man, you know all these people telling stories,

578
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:09.160
<v Speaker 3>they must be telling the truth.

579
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Bigs a society who would be right back after these messages.

580
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:31.759
<v Speaker 3>Like there's so many people out there, but without actually

581
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.400
<v Speaker 3>seeing one, it's really hard to confirm that for yourself.

582
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:38.640
<v Speaker 3>So basically, I just kept researching the topic. I really

583
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:42.640
<v Speaker 3>was interested in the subject now, and I was just

584
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:44.559
<v Speaker 3>trying to watch all these shows to figure out what

585
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.440
<v Speaker 3>they did, and I wanted to get one on camera.

586
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:51.640
<v Speaker 3>So after that, I kept going out with my camcorder

587
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:54.200
<v Speaker 3>and I was determined to film one of these things.

588
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:56.920
<v Speaker 3>And I did that every day for like a week.

589
00:31:57.079 --> 00:31:59.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean I would be out there for hours and

590
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:02.279
<v Speaker 3>hours and just not much would happened. Like I didn't

591
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:04.559
<v Speaker 3>really hear any woodknocks. I'd go out there and just

592
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:08.680
<v Speaker 3>not see anything. I'd find little things, you know, strange things,

593
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:11.160
<v Speaker 3>like they'd leave feathers in the middle of the road,

594
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:14.839
<v Speaker 3>or like they'd put mushrooms like on my chair or

595
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:17.400
<v Speaker 3>on like this area where i'd had my phone before

596
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:19.279
<v Speaker 3>i'd go and walk in the woods because I'd wear

597
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:21.279
<v Speaker 3>gym shorts whenever I was out there, whenever I had

598
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:23.319
<v Speaker 3>things in my pockets, like a way down my short

599
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:26.799
<v Speaker 3>so i'd always put my stuff, like behind this old

600
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.160
<v Speaker 3>fence post that laid on the side of the gravel road,

601
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:31.319
<v Speaker 3>and I just put it there, and like I'd come

602
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:33.640
<v Speaker 3>back and there'd be like a mushroom sitting there. I

603
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:35.480
<v Speaker 3>thought maybe that thing fell out of a tree. Like

604
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.799
<v Speaker 3>there was never a definite answer, like, oh, that was

605
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:40.680
<v Speaker 3>bigfoot for sure, that did that, Like obviously I didn't

606
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.039
<v Speaker 3>know because I didn't see them do that, but it

607
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.960
<v Speaker 3>was odd to things that I would find. So time

608
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:48.519
<v Speaker 3>passed on. It was probably about three weeks after that

609
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:51.400
<v Speaker 3>encounter with the jet black sass watch with the white stripes,

610
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:56.039
<v Speaker 3>and kind of gave up, like I kind of lost hope,

611
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:57.720
<v Speaker 3>like I'm never going to see one of these things again.

612
00:32:57.759 --> 00:32:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Like how many people go back out there and then

613
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:02.519
<v Speaker 3>see another bigfoot like Miguel And that's not gonna happen.

614
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:07.640
<v Speaker 3>But I kept walking the driveway because at that time

615
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:12.200
<v Speaker 3>I had skyattica in my right leg, and I don't know,

616
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.359
<v Speaker 3>I guess I had like a few herniated disk in

617
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.920
<v Speaker 3>my back and pain shot down to like my toes.

618
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:20.839
<v Speaker 3>So like, the only relief that I found other than

619
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:25.799
<v Speaker 3>like laying down, was walking because like driving in a car,

620
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.319
<v Speaker 3>and it just felt brutal. It felt like somebody was

621
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:31.559
<v Speaker 3>stabbing me in the back, and laying down would I mean,

622
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:34.160
<v Speaker 3>honestly be brutal as well, because the pain that shot

623
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:36.839
<v Speaker 3>through my leg was so intense. So the only relief

624
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:39.599
<v Speaker 3>I found was walking around, and that just seemed to

625
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:41.240
<v Speaker 3>be the only thing that wouldn't make me feel a

626
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:44.400
<v Speaker 3>little bit better. But yeah, it was three weeks after

627
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.039
<v Speaker 3>I encountered that jet black sasquatch. I was walking up

628
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:50.079
<v Speaker 3>the driveway. I left my phone behind my camp order

629
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:52.039
<v Speaker 3>and I was just in a bad mood that day.

630
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.119
<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know, what, screw all this, like

631
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:57.599
<v Speaker 3>not bringing any of the stuff out there, I'm just

632
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.759
<v Speaker 3>gonna go for a walk and pull down. So I

633
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:02.799
<v Speaker 3>got to the top of the driveway where I heard

634
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:06.519
<v Speaker 3>the whistles, seeing the orbs and it's a big circle driveway.

635
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:08.800
<v Speaker 3>So I'm on the other side of the driveway, walking

636
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:13.280
<v Speaker 3>on the opposite side, and I see no let me

637
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:16.440
<v Speaker 3>back up. I'm walking down the driveway. I'm still walking

638
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:18.960
<v Speaker 3>like in quiet mode, like kind of like when you're hunting,

639
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:21.800
<v Speaker 3>you take like these quiet steps. That's what I would

640
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:23.880
<v Speaker 3>do after I had these encounters, just because I was

641
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:27.199
<v Speaker 3>trying to sneak up on anything if it was out there. Well,

642
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:33.519
<v Speaker 3>whenever I was walking, my foot like hit a piece

643
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:36.639
<v Speaker 3>of gravel and made this sound like and then all

644
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:38.599
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, I see something black moving through the

645
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:41.679
<v Speaker 3>woods and it's on all fours. It looks like a chimpanzee.

646
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:45.079
<v Speaker 3>Remember that encounter that I told you by Merrimac Springs.

647
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Whenever I was on that cliff and I walked back

648
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:50.079
<v Speaker 3>to my car, the same thing happened again. I see

649
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.039
<v Speaker 3>this creature on all fours, Yeah, on all fours, and

650
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:55.360
<v Speaker 3>it's scurrying through the woods. And then it gets up

651
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:59.000
<v Speaker 3>behind an oak tree and hides really slow, like in

652
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:02.079
<v Speaker 3>slow motion. At this point, I just see half its body.

653
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:04.639
<v Speaker 3>Can't see the head. I just see like the shape

654
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.039
<v Speaker 3>of the arm and part of the body slowly hide

655
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.159
<v Speaker 3>behind the tree in slow motion, and I thought, man,

656
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:13.159
<v Speaker 3>what the heck was that? Was that turkey's or a

657
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:15.800
<v Speaker 3>hog or a bear? The same thoughts that went through

658
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 3>my mind before years prior are going through my mind again.

659
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.719
<v Speaker 3>And then hid behind the tree and I thought, pang,

660
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.920
<v Speaker 3>whatever that is, it's gone, and it's the same thing

661
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 3>that i'd seen. So I was just kind of standing

662
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:30.599
<v Speaker 3>there looking at that oak tree, and then this time

663
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:34.079
<v Speaker 3>this creature pops out behind the tree and he's looking

664
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.960
<v Speaker 3>to its left and I'm to its right, and he's

665
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.360
<v Speaker 3>just sitting there, and my mind is blown, like I

666
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:42.840
<v Speaker 3>cannot believe what I'm looking at. This creature is a

667
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:47.519
<v Speaker 3>juvenile sasquatch. It's jet black, it's probably about I don't know,

668
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 3>I would say like four or four and a half

669
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:54.239
<v Speaker 3>feet tall. And this one looks completely different than the

670
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:57.360
<v Speaker 3>one I had seen prior to. This doesn't look anything

671
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.719
<v Speaker 3>like it. It has like these big round eyes about

672
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:03.360
<v Speaker 3>the diameter of a coke can, and you can see

673
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:06.119
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the white in the eyes, and had

674
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:09.199
<v Speaker 3>like for the pupils, like these black pupils, so there's

675
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:10.840
<v Speaker 3>a lot of white that you can see and these

676
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:14.480
<v Speaker 3>little bitty pupils, but Anyways, the shape of its head

677
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:19.119
<v Speaker 3>was unusual, Like it's hard to describe. It had this giant,

678
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.480
<v Speaker 3>conical shaped head, and I would say it stuck up

679
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:26.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, like about a foot foot and a

680
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:31.599
<v Speaker 3>half above the brow ridge. It's hard to believe, but

681
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:36.360
<v Speaker 3>that's the reality. This thing had a giant brain. And

682
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.920
<v Speaker 3>as I'm staring at this creature, it has no idea

683
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:42.519
<v Speaker 3>that I'm standing there, and I'm leaning. I got my

684
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:44.920
<v Speaker 3>right hand on my right leg and I'm kind of

685
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.239
<v Speaker 3>leaning to the side to try to get a better

686
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:51.599
<v Speaker 3>view of this creature, and it just has no idea

687
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:54.119
<v Speaker 3>that I'm standing there. The wind kind of starts to

688
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:55.920
<v Speaker 3>pick up. It blows a little bit, and I could

689
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:58.639
<v Speaker 3>see the hair follicles blowing back and forth. Almost if

690
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:01.840
<v Speaker 3>you had like a blow dryer on low and it

691
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:03.760
<v Speaker 3>was blowing your hair around. That's what it was like.

692
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:08.559
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know how to describe it, but I

693
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:12.039
<v Speaker 3>don't know. Like the hair kind of tapered up on

694
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:14.880
<v Speaker 3>its head, but on the arms it tapered down like

695
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:17.920
<v Speaker 3>a Christmas tree. That's the best way I can describe it.

696
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:22.000
<v Speaker 3>You couldn't see like the nose, and because like the

697
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.400
<v Speaker 3>face was covered in hair, Like the whole thing was

698
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:25.960
<v Speaker 3>covered in hair. And it kind of reminded me of

699
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.199
<v Speaker 3>those creatures on pac Man that chase around pac Man.

700
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.000
<v Speaker 3>How you can see like their white eyes just sticking

701
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:35.119
<v Speaker 3>out of the fur. It had long, thin lips, and

702
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:39.280
<v Speaker 3>you could see these canines sticking from the top down,

703
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 3>kind of like buck teeth. I don't know how to

704
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:44.079
<v Speaker 3>explain it to you, but the teeth were dental white

705
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:47.039
<v Speaker 3>almost like if you if you've ever seen a German shepherd,

706
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:49.760
<v Speaker 3>how white their teeth are. That's how it was on

707
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:54.280
<v Speaker 3>this juvenile sasquatch. But all of a sudden, he starts

708
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:57.960
<v Speaker 3>to turn to his right and he slowly turns and

709
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:02.320
<v Speaker 3>he sees me. His eye is shoot open, almost like

710
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.760
<v Speaker 3>he just seen the devil or like a demon, And

711
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.480
<v Speaker 3>you could tell the creature was shocked. So basically he

712
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:10.079
<v Speaker 3>kind of like puffs up his chest, takes like this

713
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:13.159
<v Speaker 3>breath of air, and then shoots behind the oak tree.

714
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.559
<v Speaker 3>And after he shot behind the oak tree, he was gone,

715
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:20.000
<v Speaker 3>like completely gone. He never like took off running and

716
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:21.800
<v Speaker 3>kind of like if you spook white tall you heard,

717
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:26.000
<v Speaker 3>like there was no commotion nothing. Once he hit behind

718
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:29.199
<v Speaker 3>the tree, he was gone and it was like he

719
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:33.440
<v Speaker 3>pulled this Houdini move. I don't know, like he just disappeared.

720
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:37.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna say it was like anything paranormal or supernatural,

721
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:43.599
<v Speaker 3>but it was unusual for sure. But after that encounter,

722
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:46.760
<v Speaker 3>I kind of looked behind me into the woods and

723
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:48.880
<v Speaker 3>I thought, Okay, if there's a little one out here,

724
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:52.519
<v Speaker 3>that means mom and Dad's around. And I didn't see anything.

725
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:55.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just kept thinking to myself, Man, that

726
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:58.320
<v Speaker 3>was the coolest thing I had ever seen. I kept

727
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:01.679
<v Speaker 3>saying that over man, that's so and all of a sudden,

728
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:05.519
<v Speaker 3>like in my mind, I start realizing, like we've been

729
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:09.159
<v Speaker 3>lied to, Like a lot of things that I've learned

730
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:14.480
<v Speaker 3>in life see on the knees are just complete bs.

731
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:17.199
<v Speaker 3>Not everything obviously, like a lot of the stuff is true,

732
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:19.320
<v Speaker 3>but a lot of the things that we don't know

733
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:22.840
<v Speaker 3>about we've been led to. Because what I had just

734
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:29.159
<v Speaker 3>seen contradicts everything that I've learned. But after that incident,

735
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:32.159
<v Speaker 3>it was probably okay. So I don't I don't know

736
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:34.440
<v Speaker 3>if I mentioned the juvenile encounter that happened in July.

737
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:36.719
<v Speaker 3>So the jet black Sass squatch with the white stripes was

738
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:40.320
<v Speaker 3>in June. Juvenile encounter was in July, so now we're

739
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:44.639
<v Speaker 3>moving into the fall season, so it's full time. I'm

740
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 3>sitting in my room and I smoked cigarettes at the time.

741
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:51.519
<v Speaker 3>It was pretty cold out there, so I had the

742
00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:54.559
<v Speaker 3>window open and I had my hand like hanging out

743
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:56.400
<v Speaker 3>the window because it was really cold that day. I

744
00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:59.119
<v Speaker 3>didn't want to go out there. And I hear this

745
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:02.159
<v Speaker 3>commotion going on on outside. It sounds like a chimpanzee

746
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:05.679
<v Speaker 3>being ripped apart, and later on I learned that it

747
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:08.840
<v Speaker 3>was like a fox and heat or fox distress call.

748
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:13.880
<v Speaker 3>But I'm listening to this vocalization and it just sounds intense,

749
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.800
<v Speaker 3>like something out there is in pain. And all of

750
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:20.719
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, I grab my my spotlight. I'm shining out

751
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:24.280
<v Speaker 3>there into the dark woods, wondering what it is. And

752
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:28.199
<v Speaker 3>then this fox comes out from the woods into the

753
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:31.280
<v Speaker 3>tall grass through the yard and then back into the

754
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:34.760
<v Speaker 3>woods on the other side of the yard, and the

755
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:39.079
<v Speaker 3>whole time, this vocalization's going off, this distress call, and

756
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:41.639
<v Speaker 3>then I don't know, probably a few seconds a few

757
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:44.519
<v Speaker 3>minutes after that, another fox comes out of the woods.

758
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:46.760
<v Speaker 3>But this fox is like real low to the ground,

759
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:51.079
<v Speaker 3>like he's trying to be slick, and he goes through

760
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:55.320
<v Speaker 3>the yard into the woods. And then later on another

761
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:59.079
<v Speaker 3>fox comes out of the grass from the woodline through

762
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:02.159
<v Speaker 3>the yard in the woods. So I thought, man, that's

763
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:05.079
<v Speaker 3>kind of weird. And this vocalization is still going off,

764
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.840
<v Speaker 3>like whatever it is is still out there. So all

765
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:11.480
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, I hear this commotion where like the

766
00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:14.119
<v Speaker 3>fox headed to into the woods, like they came out

767
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:16.719
<v Speaker 3>from one side and went through the yard on the

768
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:20.320
<v Speaker 3>other side. And I hear this commotion. It sounds like

769
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.639
<v Speaker 3>a big group of deer just ran up to the

770
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:27.599
<v Speaker 3>edge of the woodline. Just so, I shine the spotlight

771
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:29.800
<v Speaker 3>across the yard into the woods, and I see all

772
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:33.960
<v Speaker 3>these eyes, these glowing eyes. It's probably like five to

773
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:38.079
<v Speaker 3>seven eyes or five to seven like different creatures. And

774
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:41.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm just shining into the woodline. You can't see like

775
00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:43.400
<v Speaker 3>whatever it is. You can just see the eye shine

776
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 3>because the spotlight's only penetrating I don't know, a few

777
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:52.320
<v Speaker 3>feet into the woods across the yard. And I'm thinking, Okay,

778
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.719
<v Speaker 3>if that was bigfoot, the eyes would be way higher

779
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:57.800
<v Speaker 3>off the ground because at this point they're only like

780
00:41:57.840 --> 00:41:59.559
<v Speaker 3>three to four feet off the ground. They're kind of

781
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:04.360
<v Speaker 3>like back and forth all the eyes, and like I said,

782
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:07.320
<v Speaker 3>it's probably like five to seven creatures. Well, as soon

783
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:11.000
<v Speaker 3>as I think that's probably not bigfoot because it's low

784
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:13.760
<v Speaker 3>to the ground, one of the eyes goes up to

785
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:18.360
<v Speaker 3>about no exaggeration, probably like ten to thirteen feet high,

786
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:23.480
<v Speaker 3>just like an elevator, and I'm thinking, what the heck,

787
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:26.239
<v Speaker 3>I know it's time. At this point, it's like that's bigfoot.

788
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:30.159
<v Speaker 3>They're freaking they're outside right now. And then as I'm

789
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:34.159
<v Speaker 3>hitting them with the spotlight, I hear something coming from

790
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:37.599
<v Speaker 3>the direction that the fox came. I hear bipedal footsteps

791
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:41.159
<v Speaker 3>just I can hear it deep in the woods, and

792
00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:47.239
<v Speaker 3>it's getting closer and closer and closer. Just sounds like

793
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:50.880
<v Speaker 3>a big lumberjack walking around outside. So I shine my

794
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:55.039
<v Speaker 3>flat my spotlight in this gap of trees, like between

795
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:58.920
<v Speaker 3>these seeds, and I'm just holding it there because because

796
00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:01.119
<v Speaker 3>I know whatever's walking up is going to join this

797
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:04.599
<v Speaker 3>group of sasquatch, and I'm just holding it there, holding

798
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:09.239
<v Speaker 3>it there, and it's getting closer and closer, and all

799
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:11.800
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, this creature walks through that gap of

800
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:16.679
<v Speaker 3>trees and it's like probably about seven feet tall, maybe

801
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:20.159
<v Speaker 3>even taller, and it's a grayish white color. It has

802
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:24.239
<v Speaker 3>a round head, black almond shaped eyes, and it joins

803
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:28.079
<v Speaker 3>up with that group of sasquatch. So I shut the window,

804
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:31.239
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, oh my gosh, they're outside. Like you

805
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:34.880
<v Speaker 3>would think as someone like somebody who wants to learn

806
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.119
<v Speaker 3>more about these creatures and who's out there all the

807
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:39.639
<v Speaker 3>time trying to figure it out. There was no way

808
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:41.119
<v Speaker 3>in hell that I was going to go out there

809
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:43.880
<v Speaker 3>that night. It just terrified me. I knew they were

810
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:46.880
<v Speaker 3>out there, and something about nighttime. I can go out

811
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 3>there during the day, but at nighttime it's a completely

812
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:53.880
<v Speaker 3>different story because when you're out there alone with these creatures,

813
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:56.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're just completely vulnerable and they can make

814
00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:59.679
<v Speaker 3>you disappear real quick. But I didn't go out there

815
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:03.159
<v Speaker 3>that night because I had already seen what I wanted

816
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:05.159
<v Speaker 3>to see, you know, like people want to see a

817
00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:07.199
<v Speaker 3>bigfoot that just happened, Like I don't need to go

818
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:12.159
<v Speaker 3>out there and shake its hand. So I mean, yeah,

819
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:15.480
<v Speaker 3>that's a majority of my encounters.

820
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Miguel, that's absolutely incredible. So I'm guessing at this point

821
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:20.840
<v Speaker 2>you start making the channel.

822
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:24.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I start telling my encounters, and I just I

823
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:26.960
<v Speaker 3>tell myself, I'm only going to tell these encounters and

824
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:29.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm never going to speak about it again. So I

825
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:32.880
<v Speaker 3>make like three different videos on YouTube and explain everything

826
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:38.400
<v Speaker 3>that I just describe to you, and people start contacting me.

827
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:41.039
<v Speaker 3>They're like, hey, I've had similar experiences. How do I

828
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:43.280
<v Speaker 3>contact you? And I'm like, well, you can talk to me.

829
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:46.440
<v Speaker 3>And I made some really good friends after I made

830
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:48.960
<v Speaker 3>the channel, and a lot of like minded people, and

831
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 3>it's just it's hard to believe how many people are

832
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.679
<v Speaker 3>out there with experiences and encounters. You know, they have

833
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:56.559
<v Speaker 3>to live with this and they don't have anyone to

834
00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:57.320
<v Speaker 3>talk to about it.

835
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely, And I'm sure you wake up every day

836
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:03.880
<v Speaker 2>and you check your email and there's just like, like

837
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:07.239
<v Speaker 2>my email, there's tons of emails just people that are like,

838
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I have no one to talk to. I need someone

839
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:14.679
<v Speaker 2>to talk to that will just take this as I

840
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:16.320
<v Speaker 2>say it and not make fun of me.

841
00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:21.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, absolutely all the time. And you know, it's

842
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:25.000
<v Speaker 3>a good feeling when people thank you for listening to

843
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:28.400
<v Speaker 3>their encounters, and you know the fact that somebody would

844
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:31.400
<v Speaker 3>take their time out of their life to listen to it,

845
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:33.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, it really means a lot of people, and

846
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:35.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, when they have to live with this and

847
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:37.199
<v Speaker 3>they don't have anyone to talk to, you know, it

848
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.960
<v Speaker 3>can really become a burden on their life. And it

849
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:43.880
<v Speaker 3>infests your mind, honestly, because you think about it over

850
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:46.760
<v Speaker 3>and over, and when you talk to people about it,

851
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:49.519
<v Speaker 3>they're like, oh, yeah, big butt, Yeah, the tooth fairy

852
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:51.960
<v Speaker 3>is real too. How much have you been smoking?

853
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Lightly big for society who will be right back after

854
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:55.800
<v Speaker 2>these messages.

855
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:13.599
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's kind of a slap in the face

856
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:15.679
<v Speaker 3>because it's kind of like being attacked by a grizzly

857
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:18.760
<v Speaker 3>bear and going back to people and them just being like, ah,

858
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.320
<v Speaker 3>you made that up. You know, it's something serious that

859
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.880
<v Speaker 3>happened that affected your life absolutely.

860
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:28.079
<v Speaker 2>After you had these encounters with the bigfoot around your

861
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.360
<v Speaker 2>home area, did you start talking to your neighbors to

862
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:33.840
<v Speaker 2>see if they were having issues as well.

863
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:39.000
<v Speaker 3>I spoke to a few neighbors and I asked them

864
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:41.880
<v Speaker 3>if they ever had any experiences, and you know, a

865
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:44.280
<v Speaker 3>lot of them said no, And that kind of blew

866
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:47.559
<v Speaker 3>my mind because some of them are pretty close. And

867
00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:49.480
<v Speaker 3>the only thing I could think of was every time

868
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:51.639
<v Speaker 3>I was out there doing research, whenever I had the

869
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:55.199
<v Speaker 3>whistles happen in the orbs the encounters. Every day that

870
00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:57.440
<v Speaker 3>I would be out there, far away in the distance,

871
00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:00.840
<v Speaker 3>in the deep woods, the deep deep woods, I would

872
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:04.800
<v Speaker 3>hear logging going on. So it's my theory that the

873
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:08.000
<v Speaker 3>logging pushed them to this property. And then on the

874
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:10.719
<v Speaker 3>other side, I always hear like these roosters going off,

875
00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:13.639
<v Speaker 3>you know, chickens, so I knew somebody had the chicken coop.

876
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.360
<v Speaker 3>And there's also that creek that I was telling you about,

877
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:18.880
<v Speaker 3>and that's the direction that all the sasquash would come

878
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:22.920
<v Speaker 3>and go from. But that creek leads to the Merrimack River,

879
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.719
<v Speaker 3>and there's a lot of Bigfoot reports by the Merrimack River.

880
00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:30.360
<v Speaker 3>What did set it in stone for me was later

881
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:33.519
<v Speaker 3>on after these encounters, I got on the BFMRO website

882
00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:36.480
<v Speaker 3>and I started looking up encounters in my area. And

883
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:40.199
<v Speaker 3>I looked up and there were a lot of reports.

884
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:42.880
<v Speaker 3>So I read the reports and a lot of them

885
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.559
<v Speaker 3>were off areas that are like five minutes from my place,

886
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:49.440
<v Speaker 3>So that blew my mind. I was like, Okay, that's cool.

887
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:52.599
<v Speaker 3>There's reports like right down the road and I had

888
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:56.840
<v Speaker 3>no idea about it, but yeah, I mean that that

889
00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:57.760
<v Speaker 3>helped out a lot.

890
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:01.920
<v Speaker 2>That that is wild oh man, and it's yeah, I'm guessing,

891
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:05.079
<v Speaker 2>are is there stuff still progressing to this day in

892
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:07.280
<v Speaker 2>that same area, you're still experiencing things?

893
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:13.119
<v Speaker 3>No, absolutely not. The more research I did, the less

894
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:16.480
<v Speaker 3>activity that I experience. You would think that once you

895
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:18.480
<v Speaker 3>know about this and you're aware of it, you know

896
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:21.199
<v Speaker 3>what to look for, what to listen for. You build

897
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:25.960
<v Speaker 3>up this channel and buy all this equipment, recorders, night vision, thermal, parabolic,

898
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:31.159
<v Speaker 3>Like the stuff just stops happening. It's like, what the heck?

899
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 3>And I'm going out there even more and I, like

900
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:35.960
<v Speaker 3>I said, I know what to look for, and it

901
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:38.360
<v Speaker 3>just doesn't happen anymore. And it kind of blows my mind.

902
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:41.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Like, you know, you hear these strange

903
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:44.079
<v Speaker 3>stories where people are like, oh, they know your intentions,

904
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.119
<v Speaker 3>they know if you have a camera, they know what

905
00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:49.079
<v Speaker 3>you're thinking. Like, I don't know, I don't know if

906
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:51.800
<v Speaker 3>that's true, but it kind of seems to be, or

907
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.159
<v Speaker 3>it's just it was just all random in nature. And

908
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:57.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't believe it was luck, but

909
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.679
<v Speaker 3>I believe that everything happens for a reason. And I

910
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.119
<v Speaker 3>was going through a hard time At that time in

911
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:05.000
<v Speaker 3>my life, like I said, I had the sky attic

912
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:08.519
<v Speaker 3>in my back, I lost my job and all my

913
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:10.920
<v Speaker 3>friends moved away. I was going through really hard times.

914
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:13.679
<v Speaker 3>So I feel like these creatures tuned in on that,

915
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 3>and I don't know, kind of like how when wolves hunt,

916
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:20.840
<v Speaker 3>like they go after the week prey, they go after

917
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:23.159
<v Speaker 3>the sick ones, and I feel like they could pick

918
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:24.039
<v Speaker 3>up on that energy.

919
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, that's that is extremely interesting. Do you ever

920
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:34.079
<v Speaker 2>go out with a very small amount of electronic devices.

921
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:38.440
<v Speaker 3>On you, just like my phone and stuff? Okay, I

922
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:40.440
<v Speaker 3>mean I always have my phone just because I got

923
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:43.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean even still this day, Like I know they exist,

924
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:46.239
<v Speaker 3>but I get burnt out. I'm bringing my camera, Like

925
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:48.960
<v Speaker 3>you can't have your camera in your hand twenty four

926
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:50.960
<v Speaker 3>hours a day and it gets old, you know, carrying

927
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.559
<v Speaker 3>that around every time you go out there. So yeah,

928
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean I've tried to go out there with no

929
00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:59.559
<v Speaker 3>electronics and just nothing happens. That incident that I told

930
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:01.880
<v Speaker 3>you with the spotlight, whenever I heard the fox and

931
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:04.320
<v Speaker 3>distress out there and all the eye shining and I

932
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:06.920
<v Speaker 3>saw the big gray one. I had my camp order

933
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:09.480
<v Speaker 3>in my hand. I was trying to record it, but

934
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:11.960
<v Speaker 3>it was just pitch black. I didn't know how to

935
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.440
<v Speaker 3>use the camera. I think I had it on on

936
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:18.920
<v Speaker 3>auto rather than manual, and I don't know. I just

937
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:20.360
<v Speaker 3>didn't know how to use I didn't know how to

938
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:24.400
<v Speaker 3>set the ISO and you know, the shutter speed and

939
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:26.719
<v Speaker 3>all that. So it's just the only thing you could

940
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:30.639
<v Speaker 3>hear is that that vocalization. I think later on I

941
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:33.039
<v Speaker 3>learned that that was a fox in distress. So, but

942
00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:35.199
<v Speaker 3>did sounds like a chimpanzee being a part?

943
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those foxes sound really weird when they are. Yeah,

944
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:42.800
<v Speaker 2>foxes can freak you out and freak you out. I

945
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.119
<v Speaker 2>know that from living up in New England for a while.

946
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:47.840
<v Speaker 2>But so, the thing I like about having a channel

947
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:54.199
<v Speaker 2>myself is sometimes when you talk to someone, there's the

948
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:57.440
<v Speaker 2>accounts that they give, it's almost a life breeds into

949
00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:00.440
<v Speaker 2>them and it just it starts this whole story. Start

950
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:03.800
<v Speaker 2>investigating this one area and then it just gets bigger

951
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:07.199
<v Speaker 2>and bigger. Can you think of any things in the

952
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:09.920
<v Speaker 2>history of sasquatch theory where it's like I talked to

953
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:12.760
<v Speaker 2>this one guy and then this one area just became

954
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:17.239
<v Speaker 2>this massive, like huge storyline in the channel.

955
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:24.440
<v Speaker 3>As far as like people who told their encounters and

956
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:28.000
<v Speaker 3>it became like a mainstream thing in the big fill community.

957
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, like let's say, like for example, like

958
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:34.000
<v Speaker 2>when I think of my channel, I think of like

959
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:36.440
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of stuff that always comes out of

960
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Oakrage Ore again, and it's like you keep looking into

961
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:41.960
<v Speaker 2>it and more and more, and like sometimes it feels

962
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:43.840
<v Speaker 2>like you keep looking into this one area and you

963
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:47.199
<v Speaker 2>just get more and more reports and kind of gets

964
00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:49.239
<v Speaker 2>a life of his zone of its own.

965
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Has that ever happened to you on sasquatch theory?

966
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:58.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah, absolutely. There's several areas just a Missouri that

967
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:03.039
<v Speaker 3>I keep getting reports it's from There's an area east

968
00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:07.280
<v Speaker 3>like southeast of Solid in Missouri. I mean there's just

969
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:10.239
<v Speaker 3>a lot of reports there. Like I'm always getting reports,

970
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:12.960
<v Speaker 3>and I say always. It's not like every day, but

971
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:15.480
<v Speaker 3>every now and then I'll get reports from there, and

972
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:18.639
<v Speaker 3>they kind of build up over time. I've noticed that

973
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:22.800
<v Speaker 3>South Missouri is a hot area. Southeast Missouri is pretty hot.

974
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:27.280
<v Speaker 3>I was out there investigating an area in the Mark

975
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:30.360
<v Speaker 3>Twain National Forest in southeast Missouri, and I went out

976
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:32.440
<v Speaker 3>there and made a film, and the property owner told

977
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:34.760
<v Speaker 3>me that he went out one morning about three am

978
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.880
<v Speaker 3>with this flashlight and there's a sasquatch lane at the

979
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:40.400
<v Speaker 3>edge of the yard into the woodline, and it just

980
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:42.880
<v Speaker 3>stood up and like walked off and kind of looked

981
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:45.840
<v Speaker 3>back at him. And he had a lot of experiences

982
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:51.239
<v Speaker 3>after that. I went out there and filmed that. We

983
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:54.960
<v Speaker 3>went around walking down by the creek bottom, and we

984
00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:59.079
<v Speaker 3>didn't really find too much. We found some questionable tracks

985
00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:01.480
<v Speaker 3>and just not a whole lot happened. So we were

986
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:04.960
<v Speaker 3>in the yard by the campfire, and I was thinking,

987
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:08.039
<v Speaker 3>in my mind, Okay, nothing happened today, there's no reason

988
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:11.559
<v Speaker 3>to really stay the night. I'm probably gonna go home.

989
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:14.239
<v Speaker 3>Everyone's talking back and forth, and I'm waiting for them

990
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:16.840
<v Speaker 3>to stop talking so I can be like, well, I

991
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:19.960
<v Speaker 3>think I'm gonna head out, And right before I can

992
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:23.480
<v Speaker 3>even say that, this loud wood knock happens, like it

993
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:27.559
<v Speaker 3>sounds like someone hit two wooden baseball bats together, and

994
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:30.159
<v Speaker 3>we all look at each other, white eyed, like did

995
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:33.960
<v Speaker 3>you just hear that? And then another wood knock boom,

996
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:38.079
<v Speaker 3>and then another one boom, and they're coming like it's

997
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:40.559
<v Speaker 3>all happening around the yard, like it's not just one

998
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:44.679
<v Speaker 3>sasquatch like there's several of them down in there, and

999
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:47.639
<v Speaker 3>it just keeps happening, like the wood knocks. It sounds

1000
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:49.840
<v Speaker 3>like they're just walking around the woods at the edge

1001
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:53.360
<v Speaker 3>of the woodline, like dragging like limbs and snapping twigs.

1002
00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:56.880
<v Speaker 3>So we sat there and listened to them vocalized. It

1003
00:53:56.960 --> 00:53:59.920
<v Speaker 3>was the coolest thing ever. I mean, it was magical, honest.

1004
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:02.760
<v Speaker 3>So I walked up to where this thing was wood

1005
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.280
<v Speaker 3>knock and it was right there in the woods, and

1006
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:08.719
<v Speaker 3>I grabbed my audio recorder and set it like right

1007
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:10.239
<v Speaker 3>there in front of him in the yard. There was

1008
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:12.159
<v Speaker 3>like this pile of logs, So I just set it

1009
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:15.480
<v Speaker 3>on the logs and I got some really good audio.

1010
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:17.480
<v Speaker 3>But none of the other guys wanted to go close

1011
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:20.199
<v Speaker 3>to him, like they were terrified. I would ask it

1012
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:22.159
<v Speaker 3>to wood knock, it would would knock. I asked it

1013
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:24.159
<v Speaker 3>to push it over a tree, and then it pushed

1014
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:26.599
<v Speaker 3>over a tree. It didn't happen as soon as I asked,

1015
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:28.920
<v Speaker 3>like it would happen like thirty seconds after i'd ask

1016
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:31.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it could understand me, but it

1017
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:33.800
<v Speaker 3>did all those things. And I asked it to do

1018
00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:36.760
<v Speaker 3>that because obviously I know Bigfoot does all that, But

1019
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:41.199
<v Speaker 3>I went out there and things kept happening throughout the months,

1020
00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:44.039
<v Speaker 3>throughout the weeks, and we just hear them vocalize and

1021
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:49.000
<v Speaker 3>it was it was awesome. But later on, another guy

1022
00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:52.159
<v Speaker 3>contacts me. His name's Adam. He's got that channel called

1023
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:53.920
<v Speaker 3>the Half Inch Wrench Crew. I'm not sure if you

1024
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:59.559
<v Speaker 3>ever watched it, but I saw that. Yeah, he thinks

1025
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:01.639
<v Speaker 3>that I'm like from a different state. He has no

1026
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:05.079
<v Speaker 3>idea how excuse me that I'm from Missouri. But he

1027
00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:07.280
<v Speaker 3>asked me where I live and I'm like, I'm from Missouri.

1028
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:10.920
<v Speaker 3>He's like, oh, I'm from Missouri too, And then he

1029
00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:13.519
<v Speaker 3>told me the town that he's from. And I'm like, dude,

1030
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:15.760
<v Speaker 3>do you know that Bill's cabin is right up the

1031
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:18.079
<v Speaker 3>road from you. He's like, no, huh. He's like, you're

1032
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:20.000
<v Speaker 3>from Missouri, you're from this area. I was like yeah.

1033
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:23.000
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I've been researching right up the road

1034
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:25.280
<v Speaker 3>from where you've been having experiences. And that kind of

1035
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:28.440
<v Speaker 3>blew his mind. He couldn't believe that. And I mean

1036
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:30.960
<v Speaker 3>when he said the name of the town, I knew

1037
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:34.079
<v Speaker 3>he was telling the truth because I've been going down

1038
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:36.679
<v Speaker 3>there doing research and he showed me the photos that

1039
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:40.039
<v Speaker 3>he's that he'd captured as far as like tracks his

1040
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:43.119
<v Speaker 3>neighbor has like greenhouses, and the sasquatch would get in

1041
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:45.320
<v Speaker 3>there and like press up the grants up against like

1042
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:48.760
<v Speaker 3>the greenhouse. So it was really cool. And yeah, there's

1043
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:52.159
<v Speaker 3>reports are coming out of there frequently.

1044
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:57.159
<v Speaker 2>That is is fascinating. Missouri is such an interesting state

1045
00:55:57.239 --> 00:55:59.440
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to Bigfoot. There are so many things

1046
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:04.400
<v Speaker 2>going on. There's one that I always want. I always

1047
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:06.920
<v Speaker 2>like to bring up whenever I'm talking to someone from

1048
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Missouri just to see if there's anything there that you

1049
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:11.440
<v Speaker 2>know anything about it? But have you ever heard of

1050
00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the spot Monkey Mountain? I think it's north of Kansas City.

1051
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I get people that talk about Monkey Mountain and

1052
00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:22.679
<v Speaker 3>I've never been there, but I hear about it. It's

1053
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:25.639
<v Speaker 3>pretty close to like an air Force base, like east

1054
00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:29.239
<v Speaker 3>of Kansas City. I'm pretty close to Eyebney, I think

1055
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:29.559
<v Speaker 3>it is.

1056
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:34.719
<v Speaker 2>Have you heard of actual class as happening there or.

1057
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:38.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've heard. I've heard of a few, and I

1058
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:41.960
<v Speaker 3>took a few reports from that area. I can't remember

1059
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:44.719
<v Speaker 3>the towns that are around it, but I want to say,

1060
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:48.880
<v Speaker 3>like the town's called like Spring Spring something and it's

1061
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:52.719
<v Speaker 3>pretty close to Monkey Mountain. But yeah, there's also another

1062
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:55.880
<v Speaker 3>guy I interviewed after the Killing Fields, a guy that

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00:56:56.000 --> 00:57:01.199
<v Speaker 3>owned like a little gift shop in Salem, Missouri, experiences

1064
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:03.440
<v Speaker 3>there and yeah, it seems to be a hot area.

1065
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:05.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm not really sure what's going on there because a

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00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:07.960
<v Speaker 3>lot of people say the activities like in the Ozar's

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00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:09.679
<v Speaker 3>in the Mark Twain. But I tell them, this stuff

1068
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:12.920
<v Speaker 3>can happen anywhere. If you got woods, you have trees,

1069
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:14.199
<v Speaker 3>they can be in there.

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00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:17.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and especially if your property is like next

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00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:20.199
<v Speaker 2>to a river and there seems to be like a

1072
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:23.440
<v Speaker 2>bend in that river. I mean, I usually find that

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00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:26.960
<v Speaker 2>that's a pretty good indicator. But you know, you focus.

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00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:29.639
<v Speaker 2>It seems a lot of your time in Missouri. Have

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00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:33.639
<v Speaker 2>you ever, you know, went out to other states or

1076
00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:36.559
<v Speaker 2>is there a plan maybe to check out other spots

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00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:38.960
<v Speaker 2>in the future or just kind of stick in Missouri.

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00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I've been to South Carolina and the girlfriend lives there,

1079
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:48.920
<v Speaker 3>and we went exploring a few areas where she's had

1080
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:52.360
<v Speaker 3>things happen, some paranormal stuff. And as soon as we

1081
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:56.400
<v Speaker 3>get to that area, we hear something by people walking

1082
00:57:56.440 --> 00:58:00.280
<v Speaker 3>down the hill in the Appalachian mountains, and I'm thinking,

1083
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:02.000
<v Speaker 3>since we just got out of the car in the

1084
00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:05.159
<v Speaker 3>parking lot, those are people coming down the hill. So

1085
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:06.760
<v Speaker 3>I didn't record it. I didn't want to be staying

1086
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:09.320
<v Speaker 3>there with my camera as these people walk down, I'm

1087
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:11.880
<v Speaker 3>filming them like they're animals. But whatever it was, it

1088
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:16.079
<v Speaker 3>just stopped at the like before it could present itself,

1089
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:18.320
<v Speaker 3>and it just stopped. Everything got silent. So later on

1090
00:58:18.360 --> 00:58:21.119
<v Speaker 3>I thought, man, that must have been Bigfoot, but I

1091
00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:25.360
<v Speaker 3>don't know. But we went down about five miles from

1092
00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:28.679
<v Speaker 3>that area. We were checking out a new spot and

1093
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:32.000
<v Speaker 3>from the parking lot. When we're parked there, there's this

1094
00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:34.280
<v Speaker 3>big pine thicket and I start to see like a

1095
00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:36.159
<v Speaker 3>bunch of brakes and I don't know if it's like

1096
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:38.960
<v Speaker 3>wind damage, but I go in there, I start exploring

1097
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:41.400
<v Speaker 3>it and I find a ton of structures. I mean,

1098
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:44.519
<v Speaker 3>these are awesome structures. A lot of people don't believe

1099
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:46.880
<v Speaker 3>the structures are created by Bigfoot. They think it's just

1100
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:49.599
<v Speaker 3>wind damage snowload, which some of it could be. But

1101
00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:53.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is like perfect symmetrical axes. And there's

1102
00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:55.719
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of axes in there, a bunch of arches,

1103
00:58:56.119 --> 00:58:59.039
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of trees weaved in to each other. It

1104
00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:03.800
<v Speaker 3>was pretty cool. I went to Alaska and we did

1105
00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:06.719
<v Speaker 3>an expedition up there for seven days, and we found

1106
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:09.239
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of tree breaks in this area that was

1107
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:14.320
<v Speaker 3>infested with grizzly bears. And as me and the other

1108
00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:16.800
<v Speaker 3>researcher were walking through the area, I looked to my

1109
00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:19.760
<v Speaker 3>right and I see like this black head and it

1110
00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:21.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of shoots off to the right. He's walking in

1111
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:24.079
<v Speaker 3>front of me, and I start walking backwards. Well, as

1112
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:27.119
<v Speaker 3>soon as I start walking backwards, he is too, and

1113
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:29.760
<v Speaker 3>I asked him, did you see something? He's like, oh yeah.

1114
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:31.800
<v Speaker 3>I was like, what did you see? I was like,

1115
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:34.159
<v Speaker 3>was it a black head? He's like, yeah, a black head?

1116
00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:38.480
<v Speaker 3>But we don't know if that was bigfoot, But I mean,

1117
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:43.599
<v Speaker 3>whatever it was capture our attention and it was pretty cool.

1118
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:45.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, walking around at two in the morning and

1119
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:50.639
<v Speaker 3>Alaska in the middle of like the Kenan Peninsula, it

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00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:53.800
<v Speaker 3>is freaky. Oh yeah, I mean we ran into grizzly

1121
00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:55.639
<v Speaker 3>bears and it was freaky.

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00:59:55.880 --> 00:59:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Miguel, that's intense. You don't get too many too

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00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:01.079
<v Speaker 2>many tries up there. From what I here, you got

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01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:02.880
<v Speaker 2>to be really on your toes so I'm glad that

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01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:05.960
<v Speaker 2>you were well aware of what's going on for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm, oh yeah, we were all alarms, so I

1127
01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:14.000
<v Speaker 3>felt pretty confident. He had a German shepherd, and I

1128
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:17.360
<v Speaker 3>felt like that was our little alarm system. But it's

1129
01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:21.920
<v Speaker 3>it's different up there in Alaska because the time zones

1130
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:25.920
<v Speaker 3>like three hours off and it doesn't get dark, like

1131
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:28.599
<v Speaker 3>it's daylight even at like two in the morning all

1132
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:30.880
<v Speaker 3>the way till morning time, like it just gets like

1133
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:33.880
<v Speaker 3>it's almost like it's getting dusk, but it's still daylight,

1134
01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:36.760
<v Speaker 3>and then it just gets bright again. Kind of weird.

1135
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:39.639
<v Speaker 2>It's got to mess with you for sure. Then, Miguel,

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01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:43.119
<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate you chatting tonight. There's the last question

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01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I have for you is you know, and you may

1138
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:47.800
<v Speaker 2>have even gotten this one before from listeners, but I'm

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01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:50.039
<v Speaker 2>sure you have a lot of people watching your channel

1140
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:52.599
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, man, I want to go out there,

1141
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I want to check out Sasquatch areas myself. Do you

1142
01:00:57.400 --> 01:01:00.239
<v Speaker 2>have any advice for people that you know wantin to

1143
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:03.599
<v Speaker 2>start going out and looking for bigfoot themselves.

1144
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:12.039
<v Speaker 3>H The best thing I can say is go out

1145
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:14.360
<v Speaker 3>there and hunt. Spend a lot of time in an

1146
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:18.159
<v Speaker 3>area and maybe they'll approach. You go and camp in

1147
01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:22.920
<v Speaker 3>a remote area off the river and do some whoops

1148
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:26.960
<v Speaker 3>and wood knocks, maybe you'll get a reaction. But it's

1149
01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:31.079
<v Speaker 3>hard to point people in that direction because you can

1150
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:35.079
<v Speaker 3>look up like these class A encounter sighting areas and

1151
01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:37.960
<v Speaker 3>see this cluster of bigfoot encounters and go out there

1152
01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:39.719
<v Speaker 3>and spend a lot of time in those areas and

1153
01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:43.000
<v Speaker 3>never hear or see anything. It's all random by nature,

1154
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:46.239
<v Speaker 3>and these things are pretty rare, and they can be

1155
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:50.280
<v Speaker 3>many miles in between. And I mean, we hear all

1156
01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:55.559
<v Speaker 3>these stories and encounters from the Internet, but in reality

1157
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:57.320
<v Speaker 3>is like a lot of them took place like in

1158
01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:00.280
<v Speaker 3>the seventies or you know, a long time ago when

1159
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:04.320
<v Speaker 3>someone was just a kid. And when we hear these

1160
01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:08.320
<v Speaker 3>new reports, like there's not there's not that many people

1161
01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:11.159
<v Speaker 3>in a state that are have encounters. We just hear

1162
01:02:11.199 --> 01:02:13.440
<v Speaker 3>a lot of them because of the Internet. We're like, oh, man,

1163
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:16.280
<v Speaker 3>Tennessee has a lot of encounters. But in reality, if

1164
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:18.880
<v Speaker 3>you lived in Tennessee, if you lived in those areas

1165
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:21.639
<v Speaker 3>that are hot spot areas, you can ask hunters that

1166
01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:24.039
<v Speaker 3>have been hunting there for forty years and they'll tell you,

1167
01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:26.679
<v Speaker 3>I've never seen or heard anything, and I've been out

1168
01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:29.320
<v Speaker 3>here in my whole life, so it's it's really hard

1169
01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:31.079
<v Speaker 3>to say, but yeah, the best advice I can get

1170
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:34.679
<v Speaker 3>people is all of the food, all the waterways, and

1171
01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:36.519
<v Speaker 3>maybe you'll hear something.

1172
01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:38.239
<v Speaker 2>That's great advice.

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01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Do you mind?

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01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:42.639
<v Speaker 2>So I feel it's it's really important if you enjoy

1175
01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:45.400
<v Speaker 2>a channel to be able to support the channel. Can

1176
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:48.159
<v Speaker 2>you share, just for a few minutes about how people

1177
01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:50.800
<v Speaker 2>can you know, keep up to date with sasquatch theory

1178
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:53.519
<v Speaker 2>and maybe different ways they can help you, you know,

1179
01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:56.119
<v Speaker 2>keep to make videos for the future.

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01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:04.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mainly to YouTube. I'm on Facebook and Instagram

1181
01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:07.079
<v Speaker 3>and those seem to be the ones that work for me.

1182
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:09.920
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I mean, if you want to see photos

1183
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:12.679
<v Speaker 3>and short videos, you can go to Facebook and Instagram,

1184
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:15.079
<v Speaker 3>and as far as the YouTube, that seems to be

1185
01:03:16.039 --> 01:03:21.880
<v Speaker 3>the main focus for me. But yeah, if people want

1186
01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:25.119
<v Speaker 3>to support the channel, they can purchase some merchandise. I mean,

1187
01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:27.159
<v Speaker 3>I think the last time I sold something was a

1188
01:03:27.159 --> 01:03:30.320
<v Speaker 3>few months ago. But I mean, the best thing they

1189
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:32.440
<v Speaker 3>can do is just watch the videos and if you

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01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:35.239
<v Speaker 3>have an encounter you would like to share, contact Jeremiah

1191
01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:38.719
<v Speaker 3>or myself and we'd both like to hear your encounters.

1192
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely well. Thanks again for hanging out for a bit, Miguel,

1193
01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:44.800
<v Speaker 2>and it's a pleasure to be able to chat with

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01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:45.280
<v Speaker 2>you tonight.

1195
01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:50.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, and thank you for giving me the opportunity

1196
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:52.480
<v Speaker 3>to be on the Bigfoot Society.

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<v Speaker 2>Please take a minute to help out the show by

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01:03:56.599 --> 01:04:00.039
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<v Speaker 1>Wherever you can.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following,

1206
01:04:19.960 --> 01:04:23.559
<v Speaker 2>or know someone who has, please reach out to me

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01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:27.360
<v Speaker 2>at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on

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<v Speaker 2>my email.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the list.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have an encounter in clay Jackson, Putnam, Overton

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01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:40.840
<v Speaker 2>in Pickett County and Tennessee, please reach out. You know

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01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:45.519
<v Speaker 2>there could be stuff going on there. A special thank

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01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:49.840
<v Speaker 2>you to all the Bigfoot Society Patreon and YouTube channel members.

1214
01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:52.679
<v Speaker 2>It's your support that helps keep the show going and

1215
01:04:52.760 --> 01:04:56.280
<v Speaker 2>I extremely appreciate it. If you want to join in

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01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:59.480
<v Speaker 2>the fun, you can join over at patreon dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Forward Slash a big for society. I'll see you there

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01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:05.599
<v Speaker 2>and again, thanks for listening.

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01:05:55.480 --> 01:05:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Her and I can get on here. We can tell

1220
01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:00.239
<v Speaker 3>our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening it's

1221
01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:03.199
<v Speaker 3>too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give

1222
01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:06.000
<v Speaker 3>them the courage to come out. And I feel so

1223
01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:06.800
<v Speaker 3>bad about it.

1224
01:06:07.239 --> 01:06:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Who cares what anybody's thinks.

1225
01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:11.239
<v Speaker 3>I know what I saw, I know what's out there.

1226
01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:31.719
<v Speaker 3>That's all I care. Please let people know, Please let

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01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:34.840
<v Speaker 3>them know. If you ever see one of these things,

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01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:38.599
<v Speaker 3>you need you tell, because if you don't, then shame

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01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:48.519
<v Speaker 3>on you, you know, shame on you,
