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Speaker 2: on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society, You've got
Speaker 2: the privilege of talking to someone I've been wanting to
Speaker 2: talk to for a while. This is Miguel. You may
Speaker 2: know him best as Sasquatch Theory, one of my favorite
Speaker 2: channels on YouTube. Miguel, how's it going tonight?
Speaker 3: Man? It's going really good. Thank you so much for asking.
Speaker 3: How are you, dude? I'm doing great.
Speaker 2: I'm up here in Iowa, so you know, it's actually
Speaker 2: a beautiful night out tonight, and I know you're down
Speaker 2: there in Missouri, so we're we're kind of the Midwest
Speaker 2: bigfoot guys. So that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a pleasure to speak with you today, and
Speaker 3: I'm glad to be a guest on your show.
Speaker 2: Absolutely so, Miguel. You know, I usually start out by
Speaker 2: by asking the guests that I have on So what
Speaker 2: was What was it that first got you into bigfoot
Speaker 2: back in the day.
Speaker 3: Well, well, got me into bigfoot for my eyesight and encounters,
Speaker 3: and I've always been into the subject, and I listened
Speaker 3: to Sasquatch chronicles and watched like Finding Bigfoot on TV.
Speaker 3: But I had these strange experiences prior to that interest,
Speaker 3: and I've always just been into the parent normal. But
Speaker 3: the experiences that I had before my Bigfoot encounters kind
Speaker 3: of just got me into the subject and had me
Speaker 3: questioning what I what I had seen, and I've just
Speaker 3: always been looking for answers.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so.
Speaker 2: And the cool thing I like about your channel is
Speaker 2: it's very unique because you're definitely focused on the state
Speaker 2: of Missouri, and I remember thinking it was the coolest thing,
Speaker 2: because you know, everyone seems to be focused on your
Speaker 2: Pacific Northwest, where you're Oklahoma, or maybe Ohio, maybe Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: but like you're very focused in on Missouri and these
Speaker 2: interviews that you're getting down in Missouri are fantastic. So
Speaker 2: I'm just curious, like, how did that process start to
Speaker 2: come across? The people just start reaching out to you
Speaker 2: and then you're like, Hey, I maybe I come out
Speaker 2: to your place do an in person interview and then
Speaker 2: check things out.
Speaker 3: Or yeah, pretty much people heard about my channel and
Speaker 3: they'd reach out to me by email or Facebook and
Speaker 3: we just get to know each other and I'd go
Speaker 3: out there and investigate the areas that they had the
Speaker 3: activity end and just try to do the best I could.
Speaker 2: Awesome thinking over over the years, have you been privilege enough?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: And this is for people that you know, there might
Speaker 2: be some of my listeners where there they haven't stumbled
Speaker 2: upon Scotch sasquatch theory yet, which they definitely need to.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna have the link in the show notes
Speaker 2: after this they can check it out. But you know,
Speaker 2: has there been a time when you've been able to
Speaker 2: have that face to face encounter? What is what do
Speaker 2: you think the closest that you've gotten to these creatures
Speaker 2: over the year has been.
Speaker 3: I've gotten really close several times, and I've had a
Speaker 3: handful of Class A encounters. My first experience started off
Speaker 3: whenever I was around ten years old. I would say,
Speaker 3: give or take. Maybe I was nine, maybe I was eleven,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna say ten. I was sitting here in
Speaker 3: my bedroom. It was probably July, and I had the
Speaker 3: window open and I was sitting there watching TV. I
Speaker 3: remember watching Family Guy on Cartoon Network, and it was
Speaker 3: probably anywhere from around nine thirty pm to eleven PM.
Speaker 3: I can't remember what time the show aired, but I
Speaker 3: was just sitting there watching the show. I had my
Speaker 3: computer on and I was just using Messenger or I
Speaker 3: think it was like all at the time or MySpace.
Speaker 3: But all of a sudden, I heard this werewolf how
Speaker 3: I mean, it was deep, guttural, and it sounded just
Speaker 3: like what you'd hear on the Hollywood movies, and it
Speaker 3: just sounded like it was being blasted through a PA system.
Speaker 3: It was so loud that whenever I heard it, it
Speaker 3: just terrified me. The first thought that came across my
Speaker 3: mind was that's a monster. And then I started thinking,
Speaker 3: maybe that's my brother out there playing a prank on me,
Speaker 3: and I didn't know what to do, so I went
Speaker 3: up to the window and just slammed it shut, crawled
Speaker 3: up into my bed, got under the covers, and I
Speaker 3: didn't come out till the next morning. It really freaked out.
Speaker 2: That has got to definitely put you on a path,
Speaker 2: and that's something that doesn't leave your mind easy, for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The one thing I forgot to mention that like
Speaker 3: it did this werewolf, how it lasted like five seconds
Speaker 3: or so, and then after the werewolf, how something screamed
Speaker 3: like a woman. So later on, after I learned about
Speaker 3: the cryptids, bigfoot, dog man, I thought maybe like a
Speaker 3: bigfoot challenged a dog man or they ran into each
Speaker 3: other in the woods. But I also learned that dog
Speaker 3: man can scream like a woman. And I'm not sure
Speaker 3: because I've never seen one for sure. But it was
Speaker 3: just a crazy experience.
Speaker 2: In the years after that, and then looking back and
Speaker 2: you have all this this knowledge now and how to
Speaker 2: research things, did you ever look into that area where
Speaker 2: this happened to see if there were other sightings and
Speaker 2: encounters of dog man or bigfoot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I recently looked up on the I can't remember
Speaker 3: what it's called. The dog man mapping project or something.
Speaker 3: And there weren't that many reports in Missouri. There were several,
Speaker 3: but they were spread across the state. But the one
Speaker 3: that was close to where I heard this vocalization is
Speaker 3: probably like five miles down the road. So it's the
Speaker 3: same area.
Speaker 1: Man, that that is wild.
Speaker 2: So after you had that in you know, that auditory encounter,
Speaker 2: did that kind of set you off on the trail
Speaker 2: to start looking into things or did that happen a
Speaker 2: little bit later in life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that happened later on in life. I really didn't
Speaker 3: know what that was, and I always just kind of wondered,
Speaker 3: what the heck did I hear that day? Maybe somebody
Speaker 3: is playing a prank on me. And the next thing
Speaker 3: that happened was I was in high school. Me and
Speaker 3: my buddy Bruce. After school in the evening, we decided
Speaker 3: to go down to the Merrimack River and we took
Speaker 3: old Route sixty six to get there. We got off
Speaker 3: on a road called I think it's called Highway KK,
Speaker 3: and we were driving down that highway. It was getting late.
Speaker 3: The was still out, but it was almost dark time.
Speaker 3: And as we crossed the train tracks went around a
Speaker 3: few curves we're going down the steep hill, and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, my buddy Bruce sees this possum crossing
Speaker 3: the road, and it's a pretty big possum. So he
Speaker 3: decides to step on the gas and we're going like,
Speaker 3: you know, seventy eighty miles an hour on the state highway,
Speaker 3: and as we're getting close to the possum, you can
Speaker 3: see the headlights lighting up the creature, the critter, and
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, this canine creature dives out
Speaker 3: of the woods and then into the middle of the highway,
Speaker 3: snatches up this possum, throws it up in the air,
Speaker 3: and then shakes it around like a rag doll, and
Speaker 3: then tears back off into the woods. The creature was
Speaker 3: like a gray color, similar to a blue pit Its
Speaker 3: head was the shape of like a giant pit bull,
Speaker 3: but the snout was more like a hyena or like
Speaker 3: a wolf, and had these pointy ears that were probably
Speaker 3: like anywhere from three to five inches long, and the
Speaker 3: hair on its body was really short, but the fur
Speaker 3: hair around its neck was really long, similar to a lion.
Speaker 3: And this thing was built like a lion, honestly, like
Speaker 3: it was that big, had a huge chest and long
Speaker 3: front arms, and the back legs were smaller than the
Speaker 3: front legs. It was more like, I don't know, like
Speaker 3: a chihuah or something. As far as like the back legs,
Speaker 3: it's really hard to describe. I never seen this creature
Speaker 3: get up on two legs. It was on all fours
Speaker 3: the whole time. But people refer to them as like
Speaker 3: hell hounds. I don't know if it was a dog man.
Speaker 3: Some people say dog men start off on all fours
Speaker 3: and later on in life they're able to stand up
Speaker 3: and walk. But after we passed the scene where the
Speaker 3: creature came out, and my buddy slows down, hits the
Speaker 3: brakes and he goes, WHOA, did you see that? And
Speaker 3: I said yeah. We were both just kind of shocked,
Speaker 3: and we didn't really say much after we encountered that creature,
Speaker 3: and we just kind of kept driving in silence. And
Speaker 3: it was years later. I asked my friend Bruce, I
Speaker 3: I hadn't seen him in a long time. Do you
Speaker 3: remember that canine creature that we on HIGHWAYKK? And he
Speaker 3: said no, And that that blew my mind because, like
Speaker 3: I don't know, when you see something like that, you
Speaker 3: should never forget it, and I don't know if he
Speaker 3: was just gaslighting me or if he really didn't remember.
Speaker 3: But the incident did happen close to the Merrimack River
Speaker 3: and HIGHWAYKK leads to a road called Riverside Road, and
Speaker 3: I've had sasquatch experiences in that area.
Speaker 2: That is that is intense, dude. I mean, so I
Speaker 2: don't get a lot into the dog band thing. I
Speaker 2: primarily stick with Bigfoot, but every once in a while
Speaker 2: some dog band stuff does sneak through. And I believe
Speaker 2: I'm not super familiar with the Merrimack River area, but
Speaker 2: that's down near isn't near Mark Twain and Saint Louis
Speaker 2: down there in that corner.
Speaker 3: It's more of a central Missouri. I mean, it's probably
Speaker 3: twenty thirty minutes away from the Mark Twain National Forest.
Speaker 3: But the reason I mentioned these encounters is because years later,
Speaker 3: I have big Foot experiences in these exact same areas,
Speaker 3: So I kind of feel like it's tied in together.
Speaker 3: I'm not really sure because I've never seen them together
Speaker 3: at the same time. But like I said, with the
Speaker 3: first experience where it howled and then something screamed like
Speaker 3: a woman, I had the feeling that it was bigfoot
Speaker 3: along with the canine creature. And then where I seen
Speaker 3: this what people call hellhound jump out into the middle
Speaker 3: of the highway that's pretty much a mile away or
Speaker 3: less where I have these intense experiences.
Speaker 2: Later on, you have this intense sighting of a hell
Speaker 2: hound or a dog man, whatever creature it is, does
Speaker 2: that set you then on this path to figuring out
Speaker 2: what it is we have out there?
Speaker 3: No, not at all, because after I seen that canine creature,
Speaker 3: I just kind of thought maybe somebody's like giant chow
Speaker 3: mixed with like another giant dog, and then it grew
Speaker 3: up to be wild, you know, something like kujo. But
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just did really think cryptid. I
Speaker 3: didn't know what cryptids were at that time, and I
Speaker 3: didn't think that existed or was a real thing. But
Speaker 3: basically later on after that, I was probably about twenty
Speaker 3: three twenty four years old, me and my girlfriend at
Speaker 3: the time, we went camping at the Merrimack River and like,
Speaker 3: where are we seeing this hell hound? That's where this
Speaker 3: area is. Like you get on Highway KK, you go
Speaker 3: on Riverside Road takes you along the Merrimack River. That's
Speaker 3: where I was camping. So me and my girlfriend at
Speaker 3: the time, we go down there in camp and we're
Speaker 3: having a good time. There's a lot of floaters going
Speaker 3: down the river. It's probably about June or July, and
Speaker 3: it was a really nice day. We had been watching
Speaker 3: the show Finding Bigfoot, and we were talking about the
Speaker 3: Missouri encounters, and I asked her, you know, do you
Speaker 3: think Bigfoot really exists in Missouri? And you know, we
Speaker 3: were just kind of just talking back and forth about
Speaker 3: it because we had been watching the show. After we'd
Speaker 3: get off work and I decided to go to my vehicle,
Speaker 3: pull up this Nike baseball bat and I did a
Speaker 3: few wood knocks on the maple trees along the river,
Speaker 3: and there were loud knocks, like you know, it sounded solid.
Speaker 3: And I did a few loud whoops like I heard
Speaker 3: on the show Finding Finding Bigfoot, and even her son
Speaker 3: he was doing whoops. And we were just out there
Speaker 3: kind of joking about the subject. All of a sudden,
Speaker 3: we hear this giant tree come crashing down across the river,
Speaker 3: and I mean you could hear like a bunch of
Speaker 3: limbs and vines snapping, and whenever this giant tree hit
Speaker 3: the ground. You could feel the boom and everything just
Speaker 3: got quiet after that. So we all we looked at
Speaker 3: each other like, what the heck did you hear that?
Speaker 3: And we didn't really know what it was. It was
Speaker 3: just kind of strange that that happened after we did
Speaker 3: the wood knock, so we didn't really think too much
Speaker 3: of it. And later on that evening, all the floaters
Speaker 3: passed by and the river got really quiet, and we
Speaker 3: were the only ones on the river at that point,
Speaker 3: and she ended up putting her son to bed early,
Speaker 3: and we had a campfire going on, and we were
Speaker 3: sitting there talking about Bigfoot once again and how crazy
Speaker 3: it was that a tree came crashing down. We never
Speaker 3: said it was Bigfoot, We never referred to that. We
Speaker 3: just thought that was unusual, Okay, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 3: And as we're sitting there talking, it's completely dark outside,
Speaker 3: we got the fire going, and on our side of
Speaker 3: the river behind us, something screams super loud. I mean,
Speaker 3: it sounds like a metal screamer like the vocalists from
Speaker 3: as La Dying or All That Remains if you ever
Speaker 3: heard those bands, and it sounded similar to what I
Speaker 3: heard whenever I heard that dog man howl. And then
Speaker 3: after the howl, how I heard that scream, that scream
Speaker 3: like a woman. It was very similar to that, but
Speaker 3: a lot more powerful. It was the same velocity, like
Speaker 3: the same level, but just a lot I wouldn't say deeper,
Speaker 3: but it just sounded more intense. This is the best
Speaker 3: way I can say it. But the vocalization lasted anywhere
Speaker 3: from five to eight seconds, and it was probably about
Speaker 3: nine feet off the ground, maybe even higher. But on
Speaker 3: that river bottom, it's really flat, like there's a good
Speaker 3: distance behind us where it's completely flat, So there's a
Speaker 3: big bluff and it starts to gradually go up. But
Speaker 3: the girlfriend at the time, she looks at me and
Speaker 3: she says, grab your gun. Grab your gun. And I
Speaker 3: didn't go for my pistol because I felt like, whatever
Speaker 3: this thing was, or whatever it is, it's going to
Speaker 3: come and tear us apart if I grab that pistol.
Speaker 3: And it was just a feeling that I got. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know if that would have happened, but I
Speaker 3: felt like if I would have went for my glock nineteen,
Speaker 3: this thing would have came into camp and tore us apart.
Speaker 3: But she was pretty terrified. I was more dumbfounded, like
Speaker 3: in shock. I honestly had this little smirk, this crap
Speaker 3: eating grin on my face because I couldn't believe that
Speaker 3: that just took place. And we ended up going inside
Speaker 3: the tent. We didn't really talk about it much, and
Speaker 3: nothing else happened that night. We woke up the next morning,
Speaker 3: everything was all right. We were still alive, and it's
Speaker 3: just something that we talked about ever since. And at
Speaker 3: this point, I still don't think it's bigfoot. Like whenever
Speaker 3: it happened, in my mind, I was like, that's bigfoot.
Speaker 3: But after you hear something like that without seeing that,
Speaker 3: your mind shifts back to reality. Like maybe it was
Speaker 3: a mountain lion that climbed up into the tree about
Speaker 3: nine feet and screamed at us. You know, maybe it
Speaker 3: was whatever. But I don't know. I just kind of
Speaker 3: went back and forth and just kind of shook my
Speaker 3: head and disbelief because I couldn't figure it out. Later on,
Speaker 3: after that we were back in my house. This is
Speaker 3: probably months later, and I mean a lot of what
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you guys, after this, I kind
Speaker 3: of feel like these creatures followed me. They tagged me,
Speaker 3: and it's just kind of hard to believe that I've
Speaker 3: had these this amount of encounters and experiences. But everything
Speaker 3: I'm telling you is the truth. So I'm back in
Speaker 3: my house and I was thinking about the every incident
Speaker 3: where I did the woodknox and did the whoop and
Speaker 3: got reaction. And I was on my back deck after
Speaker 3: work one day and it was getting late in the
Speaker 3: evening and I did that same whoop that I did
Speaker 3: on the Merrimack River, just a loud whoop, and a
Speaker 3: few seconds after that, you can hear something crashing through
Speaker 3: the woods. It sounds like somebody is driving a bulldozer
Speaker 3: through the woods, or like someone put an S ten
Speaker 3: pickup truck in neutral and just let it roll down
Speaker 3: the hill. And it's just like tearing through branches.
Speaker 2: Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: Well, this thing's like zigzagging towards me from the woods.
Speaker 3: And I'm on my deck. There's like a backyard that's
Speaker 3: probably an acre long. And I go back inside and
Speaker 3: I tell my ex, like, hey, something's out there, like
Speaker 3: something's coming through the woods. She comes out, she's standing
Speaker 3: on the deck. She can hear it too. This thing's
Speaker 3: crashing through the woods. You can hear saplings just snapping
Speaker 3: like toothpicks, and all of a sudden, like it stops
Speaker 3: at the edge of the woodline. By this point, it's
Speaker 3: almost completely dark outside. There's still some light, but whatever
Speaker 3: it is, it just stops at the edge of the
Speaker 3: woodline and everything's silent. But I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3: At the time, I didn't know what it was, but
Speaker 3: I mean, now I know it's bigfoot, and it blew
Speaker 3: my mind. Honestly. There was a few incidents there at
Speaker 3: the house that I was living in where something would
Speaker 3: come up to the window and tap on the glass
Speaker 3: next to my computer desk, and you just hear tap, tap, tap,
Speaker 3: and it kind of sounded like nails clicking on the window.
Speaker 3: That happened about two or three times, and the last
Speaker 3: time it happened, I grabbed my clock and I immediately
Speaker 3: ran outside the front door and ran around the house,
Speaker 3: and there was just nothing there. But there was a
Speaker 3: lot of stuff that happened in that house, a lot
Speaker 3: of paranormal activity. One time I was standing out there
Speaker 3: and I was staring at the stars, and I thought
Speaker 3: I was looking at like Venus or Mars, because it
Speaker 3: was like this bright orange red color, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, that star just gets like closer and closer,
Speaker 3: and it's like the size of the basketball, and it
Speaker 3: starts moving around the house and I can get my
Speaker 3: ex girlfriend again. I tell her to come out there.
Speaker 3: She's looking at it with me, and this thing starts
Speaker 3: changing colors. It kind of looks like an ambulance light
Speaker 3: or like a disco ball, and it's like radiating different colors.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, it shoots off, like at a
Speaker 3: nine degree angle into space, and like it was so fast.
Speaker 3: I can't even tell you like how fast it was
Speaker 3: because it looked like it just got sucked up by
Speaker 3: like a vacuum cleaner. But the strange part about it
Speaker 3: is that I was having cryptid experiences out there, paranormal
Speaker 3: things happening, and like strange UFO stuff all at the
Speaker 3: same time. So I can't really say it if it's
Speaker 3: all related, or if I just kind of got lucky,
Speaker 3: or you know, I kind of considered it a curse.
Speaker 3: But after that, let's see what else happened. Okay, So
Speaker 3: it was a few years after that, and I wasn't
Speaker 3: living at that place, anymore. Me and that girl completely
Speaker 3: split up, and I was working at a different job
Speaker 3: at the time. I started working at a meat processing
Speaker 3: plant at the time, just to make some money while
Speaker 3: I was in between jobs. And that day I talked
Speaker 3: to the owner of the business and I was asking him, Hey,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm wanting to get into public land hunting.
Speaker 3: Do you know any good areas that I can go
Speaker 3: bow hunt? So he described this area that's covered in deer.
Speaker 3: He said, if you don't go there and see thirty deer,
Speaker 3: then you've done something wrong. So I asked him, Okay,
Speaker 3: tell me where it's at, give me some direction, and
Speaker 3: he was kind enough to show me where this area
Speaker 3: was at, and he wrote down on a napkin like
Speaker 3: the road where to go down, and just kind of
Speaker 3: gave me the direction. So that day after work, it
Speaker 3: was a Friday. It was September fourteenth. I can't remember
Speaker 3: the year right now, I think like twenty eighteen or
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty eighteen. And I head down there after work
Speaker 3: and I'm driving my Mustang. Whenever I get to the
Speaker 3: end of this dead end road on the back side
Speaker 3: of this state land and it's pretty close to Merrimack springs.
Speaker 3: So if anyone listening is curious to where this encounter
Speaker 3: took place, it's pretty close to that area. But anyways,
Speaker 3: I get out of my car, I shut the door,
Speaker 3: I go to the edge of the cliff. The cliff
Speaker 3: overlooks the entire state park and the Merrimack River is
Speaker 3: right down below. But whenever I turn around and walk
Speaker 3: back to my car, I see this creature on all
Speaker 3: fours scurry behind a tree, and it looked like a chimpanzee, honestly,
Speaker 3: like moving on all fours. But at the time, I thought,
Speaker 3: is that a group of turkeys? Maybe that's a black bear,
Speaker 3: or maybe it's a hog. There are hogs out here.
Speaker 3: But whenever I last saw the creature, it was upright
Speaker 3: and it slowly hid behind the tree, and all I
Speaker 3: saw was like this jet black creature and you could
Speaker 3: see like this furry arm slowly hide behind the tree. Well,
Speaker 3: whenever it hid behind the tree, I never saw it again.
Speaker 3: I just kept my eyes fixed on that oak tree
Speaker 3: and then just nothing ever happened. So I just thought, Okay,
Speaker 3: that was weird. I just couldn't figure out exactly what
Speaker 3: had happened or what it was, So that kind of
Speaker 3: left me with a lot of questions, and I walked
Speaker 3: out of that area thinking I saw a black bear
Speaker 3: because I'd never seen a black bear before at that time,
Speaker 3: and that's the only thing that my brain couldn't rationalize.
Speaker 3: So the next set of encounters take place where I
Speaker 3: live at now, and like I said before, I feel
Speaker 3: like these things have followed me around two different areas. Okay,
Speaker 3: So I'm going to the grocery store one day, and
Speaker 3: as I'm coming back home, I stopped my Mustang at
Speaker 3: the top of the Dryway because I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna check my trail camera. I don't want to
Speaker 3: have to walk all the way back up here. Might
Speaker 3: as well check it right now. So I got out
Speaker 3: of my car and I walked down to my trail
Speaker 3: camera and grabbed the SD card and walked back up
Speaker 3: to my vehicle. As I'm just I'm standing there and
Speaker 3: just watching the woods and messing around on my phone,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I hear this loud, sharp
Speaker 3: whistle to my left, and it sounds like a like
Speaker 3: a cattle rancher, like calling his dogs or you know,
Speaker 3: trying to get the animals back in just a loud
Speaker 3: sharp whistle, and then a few seconds later, right in
Speaker 3: front of me, about thirty or forty yards into the woods,
Speaker 3: I hear another whistle, but this whistle sounds like the
Speaker 3: first one, but it's dual tone, so like there's that
Speaker 3: high pitch sound and like this low whistle along with it.
Speaker 3: And then a few seconds after that, to my right,
Speaker 3: I hear another whistle. So whatever it is kind of
Speaker 3: triangulated around me. And I mean, again, I can't my
Speaker 3: brain isn't going to bigfoot, Like part of me thinks,
Speaker 3: you know, what, if it's sasquatch. I've never seen one.
Speaker 3: I don't really know if they exist. But I'm just
Speaker 3: trying to figure out where it is. And I'm thinking
Speaker 3: maybe it's trespassers, it's poachers. There's people watching me in
Speaker 3: the woods, and I just wanted to figure out who
Speaker 3: was out there, so I kind of kept going out
Speaker 3: into the woods ever since that incident. It was after
Speaker 3: the whistle, I went back home and thought about it
Speaker 3: a lot, and I just kept wondering. So I went
Speaker 3: back up there about an hour later, and it was
Speaker 3: just about dark time. Whenever I got back up on
Speaker 3: top of the driveway, and I seen these two orange
Speaker 3: orbs floating through the woods, and in my mind, I thought,
Speaker 3: maybe that's people walking with cell phones in their hands
Speaker 3: so they can see, or maybe they have lanterns, because
Speaker 3: that's kind of what it looked like. It looked like
Speaker 3: two people out there with lanterns. But I just got this,
Speaker 3: I don't know, like this dark feeling that told me
Speaker 3: don't go near. And I didn't because whatever it was
Speaker 3: kind of freaked me out. I didn't know what I
Speaker 3: had just witnessed. I mean, honestly, it was hard to say,
Speaker 3: but there I did see him pretty close, and they
Speaker 3: were like a little bit smaller than a basketball and
Speaker 3: they're like in orange yellow color. But after that, I
Speaker 3: walked back home. At this point, it's completely dark. So
Speaker 3: I'm walking back home, it's completely dark. I'm going down
Speaker 3: this gravel road, and when I get halfway down the driveway,
Speaker 3: I hear this loud thumb just it sounded like a
Speaker 3: big buck just jumped up, but I never heard it
Speaker 3: run off. So like after I heard that, the hairs
Speaker 3: on the back of my neck completely stood up, like
Speaker 3: I had this electrifying feeling that overtook my body and
Speaker 3: it was feared. And then all of a sudden, I
Speaker 3: hear these three loops just whoooo, and it sounds like
Speaker 3: something's coming at me, like on all fours, and I
Speaker 3: just kind of stand my ground and it stops whatever
Speaker 3: it is, and I could feel that something was there,
Speaker 3: it was just too dark to tell. So at this point,
Speaker 3: I'm really like questioning things, like what the heck's going on.
Speaker 3: I start watching a lot of shows and I heard
Speaker 3: that bigfoot will whistle at you. I was listening to
Speaker 3: this lady in the Himalayan Mountains. She claims that she
Speaker 3: got picked up by a bigfoot whenever she woke up,
Speaker 3: because I guess she passed out. She said she was
Speaker 3: looking at a bigfoot and whistled at her. So I
Speaker 3: was like, whoa, these things do whistle. So that really
Speaker 3: got me into the subject, and I really kept going
Speaker 3: out there after that. I kept exploring that forest and
Speaker 3: all around my land. Day I went out there, it
Speaker 3: was probably June twenty nineteen, in the middle of the summer,
Speaker 3: and I was looking for shantrail mushrooms at the time
Speaker 3: and just kind of seeking answers as to what I
Speaker 3: had experienced previously. So I'm picking mushrooms one day and
Speaker 3: I'm kind of zigzagging through the woods, going to different patches,
Speaker 3: and I have this camouflage backpack and I'm filling them
Speaker 3: up with shantrail mushrooms. As I'm making my way back home,
Speaker 3: I am walking down that same driveway where I had
Speaker 3: the whistle, seeing the orbs, heard the thump, and heard
Speaker 3: the whoops. I'm walking back. I'm almost to my driveway.
Speaker 3: I can start to see my Mustang, and I hear
Speaker 3: this little shuffling noise in the leaves. So I look
Speaker 3: over to my left and I don't see anything. There's
Speaker 3: this black shape and I'm like, oh, okay, that's a stump.
Speaker 3: It must have been like a squirrel or like a
Speaker 3: robin in the woods, because that's how loud it was.
Speaker 3: It wasn't very loud. It's just something caught my attention.
Speaker 3: So I take another three steps and I hear that
Speaker 3: same sound again. So I look back over, and when
Speaker 3: I do, this creature stands up and starts walking off
Speaker 3: in the woods. The creature looked similar to the Patterson
Speaker 3: Gimlin footage as far as how it walked and how
Speaker 3: it looked at me, but it looked different like it
Speaker 3: had the same facial features, but it was a completely
Speaker 3: different look. This creature was probably anywhere from six and
Speaker 3: a half eight feet tall. It had a round head.
Speaker 3: It had these black almond shaped eyes that would pierce
Speaker 3: through your soul. I mean, it looked mean you wouldn't
Speaker 3: want to mess with this creature. It had this flat nose,
Speaker 3: long thin lips, and its skin like I don't know
Speaker 3: how to explain it, but this thing looked ancient. You
Speaker 3: know if you when you look at like old Native
Speaker 3: American photos, how wrinkly their skin is and leathery, like,
Speaker 3: that's what it looked like. And like the color of
Speaker 3: the creature was black like you think you've seen like
Speaker 3: a black creature as far as like looking at someone's
Speaker 3: jet black housecat or whatever, like a chimpanzee. These creatures
Speaker 3: are way darker. Like when I say jet black, it's
Speaker 3: jet black like ink black. And it was really broad
Speaker 3: at the shoulders, had like a big chest, and had
Speaker 3: these whitish gray stripes going down its back from its
Speaker 3: shoulder blade right above its butt, and it had two
Speaker 3: of them, and it kind of reminded me of like
Speaker 3: a skunk or a lemur. Well, as I'm standing there
Speaker 3: in shock, this creature like looks over at me a
Speaker 3: few times and glances over its shoulder. I guess to
Speaker 3: see if I got a gun or a camera or something.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but it looked over at me about
Speaker 3: two or three times, and I got to see it
Speaker 3: for a good five to eight seconds, and then it
Speaker 3: walked off and disappeared into the cedar and oak trees.
Speaker 3: So at that point, I snap back into reality and
Speaker 3: I take off running. I'm taking off running back towards
Speaker 3: my driveway. I cut through the yard and I head
Speaker 3: towards where this creature had gone. I'm trying to cut
Speaker 3: it off so I can see it again because I
Speaker 3: couldn't believe what I had just experienced. And I get
Speaker 3: back into the woods. I step over the barbed wire
Speaker 3: fence and I take a few steps into the woods,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I hear this huffing sound.
Speaker 3: I go and I just get this dark feeling that
Speaker 3: I don't know. It takes over and I know that
Speaker 3: what I just heard is the same creature that I encountered,
Speaker 3: and there was no way I was going to take
Speaker 3: another step closer into the woods. Well, a lot of
Speaker 3: people who have heard me talk about this huffing sound. Say, oh,
Speaker 3: that's just a white tailed deer. They're blowing at you.
Speaker 3: But I tell you, like, I've grown up in Missouri
Speaker 3: since i was a little bitty kid, and I've jumped
Speaker 3: so many white tails in my life. I've hunted so
Speaker 3: many times. I know what they sound like when you
Speaker 3: spook them. Like this was different. This was like a horse,
Speaker 3: like you could tell it had a bigger set of lungs.
Speaker 3: And not to mention, I just encountered the creature. I
Speaker 3: just saw it. So that's what it was, because that's
Speaker 3: the exact direction it was heading. It was going towards
Speaker 3: the creek bottom. After it stood up and I encountered it,
Speaker 3: and I just didn't want to go in the woods.
Speaker 3: I got this feeling that if I go in there,
Speaker 3: I'm not coming back out alive. So I walked back
Speaker 3: up to the house. I'm shaking my head. I can't
Speaker 3: believe it, Like these creatures exist, Like everything everyone has
Speaker 3: been saying is true. Like I thought all those people
Speaker 3: were crazy, all the people that said all bigfoots out there,
Speaker 3: you know, the people that shared their experiences in the past.
Speaker 3: I didn't think they're all crazy. I mean part of
Speaker 3: me wanted to believe That's why I was into it,
Speaker 3: but I'd always you know, snapped back to reality, like
Speaker 3: they don't exist. It's a cool story, but they don't exist.
Speaker 3: I never ridiculed anyone, and I wanted to believe like
Speaker 3: they sounded sincere. When I'd listen to people in Sasquatch chronicles,
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, you know all these people telling stories,
Speaker 3: they must be telling the truth.
Speaker 2: Bigs a society who would be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: Like there's so many people out there, but without actually
Speaker 3: seeing one, it's really hard to confirm that for yourself.
Speaker 3: So basically, I just kept researching the topic. I really
Speaker 3: was interested in the subject now, and I was just
Speaker 3: trying to watch all these shows to figure out what
Speaker 3: they did, and I wanted to get one on camera.
Speaker 3: So after that, I kept going out with my camcorder
Speaker 3: and I was determined to film one of these things.
Speaker 3: And I did that every day for like a week.
Speaker 3: I mean I would be out there for hours and
Speaker 3: hours and just not much would happened. Like I didn't
Speaker 3: really hear any woodknocks. I'd go out there and just
Speaker 3: not see anything. I'd find little things, you know, strange things,
Speaker 3: like they'd leave feathers in the middle of the road,
Speaker 3: or like they'd put mushrooms like on my chair or
Speaker 3: on like this area where i'd had my phone before
Speaker 3: i'd go and walk in the woods because I'd wear
Speaker 3: gym shorts whenever I was out there, whenever I had
Speaker 3: things in my pockets, like a way down my short
Speaker 3: so i'd always put my stuff, like behind this old
Speaker 3: fence post that laid on the side of the gravel road,
Speaker 3: and I just put it there, and like I'd come
Speaker 3: back and there'd be like a mushroom sitting there. I
Speaker 3: thought maybe that thing fell out of a tree. Like
Speaker 3: there was never a definite answer, like, oh, that was
Speaker 3: bigfoot for sure, that did that, Like obviously I didn't
Speaker 3: know because I didn't see them do that, but it
Speaker 3: was odd to things that I would find. So time
Speaker 3: passed on. It was probably about three weeks after that
Speaker 3: encounter with the jet black sass watch with the white stripes,
Speaker 3: and kind of gave up, like I kind of lost hope,
Speaker 3: like I'm never going to see one of these things again.
Speaker 3: Like how many people go back out there and then
Speaker 3: see another bigfoot like Miguel And that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3: But I kept walking the driveway because at that time
Speaker 3: I had skyattica in my right leg, and I don't know,
Speaker 3: I guess I had like a few herniated disk in
Speaker 3: my back and pain shot down to like my toes.
Speaker 3: So like, the only relief that I found other than
Speaker 3: like laying down, was walking because like driving in a car,
Speaker 3: and it just felt brutal. It felt like somebody was
Speaker 3: stabbing me in the back, and laying down would I mean,
Speaker 3: honestly be brutal as well, because the pain that shot
Speaker 3: through my leg was so intense. So the only relief
Speaker 3: I found was walking around, and that just seemed to
Speaker 3: be the only thing that wouldn't make me feel a
Speaker 3: little bit better. But yeah, it was three weeks after
Speaker 3: I encountered that jet black sasquatch. I was walking up
Speaker 3: the driveway. I left my phone behind my camp order
Speaker 3: and I was just in a bad mood that day.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, what, screw all this, like
Speaker 3: not bringing any of the stuff out there, I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna go for a walk and pull down. So I
Speaker 3: got to the top of the driveway where I heard
Speaker 3: the whistles, seeing the orbs and it's a big circle driveway.
Speaker 3: So I'm on the other side of the driveway, walking
Speaker 3: on the opposite side, and I see no let me
Speaker 3: back up. I'm walking down the driveway. I'm still walking
Speaker 3: like in quiet mode, like kind of like when you're hunting,
Speaker 3: you take like these quiet steps. That's what I would
Speaker 3: do after I had these encounters, just because I was
Speaker 3: trying to sneak up on anything if it was out there. Well,
Speaker 3: whenever I was walking, my foot like hit a piece
Speaker 3: of gravel and made this sound like and then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, I see something black moving through the
Speaker 3: woods and it's on all fours. It looks like a chimpanzee.
Speaker 3: Remember that encounter that I told you by Merrimac Springs.
Speaker 3: Whenever I was on that cliff and I walked back
Speaker 3: to my car, the same thing happened again. I see
Speaker 3: this creature on all fours, Yeah, on all fours, and
Speaker 3: it's scurrying through the woods. And then it gets up
Speaker 3: behind an oak tree and hides really slow, like in
Speaker 3: slow motion. At this point, I just see half its body.
Speaker 3: Can't see the head. I just see like the shape
Speaker 3: of the arm and part of the body slowly hide
Speaker 3: behind the tree in slow motion, and I thought, man,
Speaker 3: what the heck was that? Was that turkey's or a
Speaker 3: hog or a bear? The same thoughts that went through
Speaker 3: my mind before years prior are going through my mind again.
Speaker 3: And then hid behind the tree and I thought, pang,
Speaker 3: whatever that is, it's gone, and it's the same thing
Speaker 3: that i'd seen. So I was just kind of standing
Speaker 3: there looking at that oak tree, and then this time
Speaker 3: this creature pops out behind the tree and he's looking
Speaker 3: to its left and I'm to its right, and he's
Speaker 3: just sitting there, and my mind is blown, like I
Speaker 3: cannot believe what I'm looking at. This creature is a
Speaker 3: juvenile sasquatch. It's jet black, it's probably about I don't know,
Speaker 3: I would say like four or four and a half
Speaker 3: feet tall. And this one looks completely different than the
Speaker 3: one I had seen prior to. This doesn't look anything
Speaker 3: like it. It has like these big round eyes about
Speaker 3: the diameter of a coke can, and you can see
Speaker 3: a lot of the white in the eyes, and had
Speaker 3: like for the pupils, like these black pupils, so there's
Speaker 3: a lot of white that you can see and these
Speaker 3: little bitty pupils, but Anyways, the shape of its head
Speaker 3: was unusual, Like it's hard to describe. It had this giant,
Speaker 3: conical shaped head, and I would say it stuck up
Speaker 3: I don't know, like about a foot foot and a
Speaker 3: half above the brow ridge. It's hard to believe, but
Speaker 3: that's the reality. This thing had a giant brain. And
Speaker 3: as I'm staring at this creature, it has no idea
Speaker 3: that I'm standing there, and I'm leaning. I got my
Speaker 3: right hand on my right leg and I'm kind of
Speaker 3: leaning to the side to try to get a better
Speaker 3: view of this creature, and it just has no idea
Speaker 3: that I'm standing there. The wind kind of starts to
Speaker 3: pick up. It blows a little bit, and I could
Speaker 3: see the hair follicles blowing back and forth. Almost if
Speaker 3: you had like a blow dryer on low and it
Speaker 3: was blowing your hair around. That's what it was like.
Speaker 3: And I don't know how to describe it, but I
Speaker 3: don't know. Like the hair kind of tapered up on
Speaker 3: its head, but on the arms it tapered down like
Speaker 3: a Christmas tree. That's the best way I can describe it.
Speaker 3: You couldn't see like the nose, and because like the
Speaker 3: face was covered in hair, Like the whole thing was
Speaker 3: covered in hair. And it kind of reminded me of
Speaker 3: those creatures on pac Man that chase around pac Man.
Speaker 3: How you can see like their white eyes just sticking
Speaker 3: out of the fur. It had long, thin lips, and
Speaker 3: you could see these canines sticking from the top down,
Speaker 3: kind of like buck teeth. I don't know how to
Speaker 3: explain it to you, but the teeth were dental white
Speaker 3: almost like if you if you've ever seen a German shepherd,
Speaker 3: how white their teeth are. That's how it was on
Speaker 3: this juvenile sasquatch. But all of a sudden, he starts
Speaker 3: to turn to his right and he slowly turns and
Speaker 3: he sees me. His eye is shoot open, almost like
Speaker 3: he just seen the devil or like a demon, And
Speaker 3: you could tell the creature was shocked. So basically he
Speaker 3: kind of like puffs up his chest, takes like this
Speaker 3: breath of air, and then shoots behind the oak tree.
Speaker 3: And after he shot behind the oak tree, he was gone,
Speaker 3: like completely gone. He never like took off running and
Speaker 3: kind of like if you spook white tall you heard,
Speaker 3: like there was no commotion nothing. Once he hit behind
Speaker 3: the tree, he was gone and it was like he
Speaker 3: pulled this Houdini move. I don't know, like he just disappeared.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say it was like anything paranormal or supernatural,
Speaker 3: but it was unusual for sure. But after that encounter,
Speaker 3: I kind of looked behind me into the woods and
Speaker 3: I thought, Okay, if there's a little one out here,
Speaker 3: that means mom and Dad's around. And I didn't see anything.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just kept thinking to myself, Man, that
Speaker 3: was the coolest thing I had ever seen. I kept
Speaker 3: saying that over man, that's so and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: like in my mind, I start realizing, like we've been
Speaker 3: lied to, Like a lot of things that I've learned
Speaker 3: in life see on the knees are just complete bs.
Speaker 3: Not everything obviously, like a lot of the stuff is true,
Speaker 3: but a lot of the things that we don't know
Speaker 3: about we've been led to. Because what I had just
Speaker 3: seen contradicts everything that I've learned. But after that incident,
Speaker 3: it was probably okay. So I don't I don't know
Speaker 3: if I mentioned the juvenile encounter that happened in July.
Speaker 3: So the jet black Sass squatch with the white stripes was
Speaker 3: in June. Juvenile encounter was in July, so now we're
Speaker 3: moving into the fall season, so it's full time. I'm
Speaker 3: sitting in my room and I smoked cigarettes at the time.
Speaker 3: It was pretty cold out there, so I had the
Speaker 3: window open and I had my hand like hanging out
Speaker 3: the window because it was really cold that day. I
Speaker 3: didn't want to go out there. And I hear this
Speaker 3: commotion going on on outside. It sounds like a chimpanzee
Speaker 3: being ripped apart, and later on I learned that it
Speaker 3: was like a fox and heat or fox distress call.
Speaker 3: But I'm listening to this vocalization and it just sounds intense,
Speaker 3: like something out there is in pain. And all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, I grab my my spotlight. I'm shining out
Speaker 3: there into the dark woods, wondering what it is. And
Speaker 3: then this fox comes out from the woods into the
Speaker 3: tall grass through the yard and then back into the
Speaker 3: woods on the other side of the yard, and the
Speaker 3: whole time, this vocalization's going off, this distress call, and
Speaker 3: then I don't know, probably a few seconds a few
Speaker 3: minutes after that, another fox comes out of the woods.
Speaker 3: But this fox is like real low to the ground,
Speaker 3: like he's trying to be slick, and he goes through
Speaker 3: the yard into the woods. And then later on another
Speaker 3: fox comes out of the grass from the woodline through
Speaker 3: the yard in the woods. So I thought, man, that's
Speaker 3: kind of weird. And this vocalization is still going off,
Speaker 3: like whatever it is is still out there. So all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, I hear this commotion where like the
Speaker 3: fox headed to into the woods, like they came out
Speaker 3: from one side and went through the yard on the
Speaker 3: other side. And I hear this commotion. It sounds like
Speaker 3: a big group of deer just ran up to the
Speaker 3: edge of the woodline. Just so, I shine the spotlight
Speaker 3: across the yard into the woods, and I see all
Speaker 3: these eyes, these glowing eyes. It's probably like five to
Speaker 3: seven eyes or five to seven like different creatures. And
Speaker 3: I'm just shining into the woodline. You can't see like
Speaker 3: whatever it is. You can just see the eye shine
Speaker 3: because the spotlight's only penetrating I don't know, a few
Speaker 3: feet into the woods across the yard. And I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 3: if that was bigfoot, the eyes would be way higher
Speaker 3: off the ground because at this point they're only like
Speaker 3: three to four feet off the ground. They're kind of
Speaker 3: like back and forth all the eyes, and like I said,
Speaker 3: it's probably like five to seven creatures. Well, as soon
Speaker 3: as I think that's probably not bigfoot because it's low
Speaker 3: to the ground, one of the eyes goes up to
Speaker 3: about no exaggeration, probably like ten to thirteen feet high,
Speaker 3: just like an elevator, and I'm thinking, what the heck,
Speaker 3: I know it's time. At this point, it's like that's bigfoot.
Speaker 3: They're freaking they're outside right now. And then as I'm
Speaker 3: hitting them with the spotlight, I hear something coming from
Speaker 3: the direction that the fox came. I hear bipedal footsteps
Speaker 3: just I can hear it deep in the woods, and
Speaker 3: it's getting closer and closer and closer. Just sounds like
Speaker 3: a big lumberjack walking around outside. So I shine my
Speaker 3: flat my spotlight in this gap of trees, like between
Speaker 3: these seeds, and I'm just holding it there because because
Speaker 3: I know whatever's walking up is going to join this
Speaker 3: group of sasquatch, and I'm just holding it there, holding
Speaker 3: it there, and it's getting closer and closer, and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, this creature walks through that gap of
Speaker 3: trees and it's like probably about seven feet tall, maybe
Speaker 3: even taller, and it's a grayish white color. It has
Speaker 3: a round head, black almond shaped eyes, and it joins
Speaker 3: up with that group of sasquatch. So I shut the window,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my gosh, they're outside. Like you
Speaker 3: would think as someone like somebody who wants to learn
Speaker 3: more about these creatures and who's out there all the
Speaker 3: time trying to figure it out. There was no way
Speaker 3: in hell that I was going to go out there
Speaker 3: that night. It just terrified me. I knew they were
Speaker 3: out there, and something about nighttime. I can go out
Speaker 3: there during the day, but at nighttime it's a completely
Speaker 3: different story because when you're out there alone with these creatures,
Speaker 3: I mean, you're just completely vulnerable and they can make
Speaker 3: you disappear real quick. But I didn't go out there
Speaker 3: that night because I had already seen what I wanted
Speaker 3: to see, you know, like people want to see a
Speaker 3: bigfoot that just happened, Like I don't need to go
Speaker 3: out there and shake its hand. So I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a majority of my encounters.
Speaker 2: Miguel, that's absolutely incredible. So I'm guessing at this point
Speaker 2: you start making the channel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I start telling my encounters, and I just I
Speaker 3: tell myself, I'm only going to tell these encounters and
Speaker 3: I'm never going to speak about it again. So I
Speaker 3: make like three different videos on YouTube and explain everything
Speaker 3: that I just describe to you, and people start contacting me.
Speaker 3: They're like, hey, I've had similar experiences. How do I
Speaker 3: contact you? And I'm like, well, you can talk to me.
Speaker 3: And I made some really good friends after I made
Speaker 3: the channel, and a lot of like minded people, and
Speaker 3: it's just it's hard to believe how many people are
Speaker 3: out there with experiences and encounters. You know, they have
Speaker 3: to live with this and they don't have anyone to
Speaker 3: talk to about it.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And I'm sure you wake up every day
Speaker 2: and you check your email and there's just like, like
Speaker 2: my email, there's tons of emails just people that are like,
Speaker 2: I have no one to talk to. I need someone
Speaker 2: to talk to that will just take this as I
Speaker 2: say it and not make fun of me.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely all the time. And you know, it's
Speaker 3: a good feeling when people thank you for listening to
Speaker 3: their encounters, and you know the fact that somebody would
Speaker 3: take their time out of their life to listen to it,
Speaker 3: you know, it really means a lot of people, and
Speaker 3: you know, when they have to live with this and
Speaker 3: they don't have anyone to talk to, you know, it
Speaker 3: can really become a burden on their life. And it
Speaker 3: infests your mind, honestly, because you think about it over
Speaker 3: and over, and when you talk to people about it,
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, yeah, big butt, Yeah, the tooth fairy
Speaker 3: is real too. How much have you been smoking?
Speaker 2: Lightly big for society who will be right back after
Speaker 2: these messages.
Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of a slap in the face
Speaker 3: because it's kind of like being attacked by a grizzly
Speaker 3: bear and going back to people and them just being like, ah,
Speaker 3: you made that up. You know, it's something serious that
Speaker 3: happened that affected your life absolutely.
Speaker 2: After you had these encounters with the bigfoot around your
Speaker 2: home area, did you start talking to your neighbors to
Speaker 2: see if they were having issues as well.
Speaker 3: I spoke to a few neighbors and I asked them
Speaker 3: if they ever had any experiences, and you know, a
Speaker 3: lot of them said no, And that kind of blew
Speaker 3: my mind because some of them are pretty close. And
Speaker 3: the only thing I could think of was every time
Speaker 3: I was out there doing research, whenever I had the
Speaker 3: whistles happen in the orbs the encounters. Every day that
Speaker 3: I would be out there, far away in the distance,
Speaker 3: in the deep woods, the deep deep woods, I would
Speaker 3: hear logging going on. So it's my theory that the
Speaker 3: logging pushed them to this property. And then on the
Speaker 3: other side, I always hear like these roosters going off,
Speaker 3: you know, chickens, so I knew somebody had the chicken coop.
Speaker 3: And there's also that creek that I was telling you about,
Speaker 3: and that's the direction that all the sasquash would come
Speaker 3: and go from. But that creek leads to the Merrimack River,
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of Bigfoot reports by the Merrimack River.
Speaker 3: What did set it in stone for me was later
Speaker 3: on after these encounters, I got on the BFMRO website
Speaker 3: and I started looking up encounters in my area. And
Speaker 3: I looked up and there were a lot of reports.
Speaker 3: So I read the reports and a lot of them
Speaker 3: were off areas that are like five minutes from my place,
Speaker 3: So that blew my mind. I was like, Okay, that's cool.
Speaker 3: There's reports like right down the road and I had
Speaker 3: no idea about it, but yeah, I mean that that
Speaker 3: helped out a lot.
Speaker 2: That that is wild oh man, and it's yeah, I'm guessing,
Speaker 2: are is there stuff still progressing to this day in
Speaker 2: that same area, you're still experiencing things?
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. The more research I did, the less
Speaker 3: activity that I experience. You would think that once you
Speaker 3: know about this and you're aware of it, you know
Speaker 3: what to look for, what to listen for. You build
Speaker 3: up this channel and buy all this equipment, recorders, night vision, thermal, parabolic,
Speaker 3: Like the stuff just stops happening. It's like, what the heck?
Speaker 3: And I'm going out there even more and I, like
Speaker 3: I said, I know what to look for, and it
Speaker 3: just doesn't happen anymore. And it kind of blows my mind.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like, you know, you hear these strange
Speaker 3: stories where people are like, oh, they know your intentions,
Speaker 3: they know if you have a camera, they know what
Speaker 3: you're thinking. Like, I don't know, I don't know if
Speaker 3: that's true, but it kind of seems to be, or
Speaker 3: it's just it was just all random in nature. And
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't believe it was luck, but
Speaker 3: I believe that everything happens for a reason. And I
Speaker 3: was going through a hard time At that time in
Speaker 3: my life, like I said, I had the sky attic
Speaker 3: in my back, I lost my job and all my
Speaker 3: friends moved away. I was going through really hard times.
Speaker 3: So I feel like these creatures tuned in on that,
Speaker 3: and I don't know, kind of like how when wolves hunt,
Speaker 3: like they go after the week prey, they go after
Speaker 3: the sick ones, and I feel like they could pick
Speaker 3: up on that energy.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's that is extremely interesting. Do you ever
Speaker 2: go out with a very small amount of electronic devices.
Speaker 3: On you, just like my phone and stuff? Okay, I
Speaker 3: mean I always have my phone just because I got
Speaker 3: I mean even still this day, Like I know they exist,
Speaker 3: but I get burnt out. I'm bringing my camera, Like
Speaker 3: you can't have your camera in your hand twenty four
Speaker 3: hours a day and it gets old, you know, carrying
Speaker 3: that around every time you go out there. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I've tried to go out there with no
Speaker 3: electronics and just nothing happens. That incident that I told
Speaker 3: you with the spotlight, whenever I heard the fox and
Speaker 3: distress out there and all the eye shining and I
Speaker 3: saw the big gray one. I had my camp order
Speaker 3: in my hand. I was trying to record it, but
Speaker 3: it was just pitch black. I didn't know how to
Speaker 3: use the camera. I think I had it on on
Speaker 3: auto rather than manual, and I don't know. I just
Speaker 3: didn't know how to use I didn't know how to
Speaker 3: set the ISO and you know, the shutter speed and
Speaker 3: all that. So it's just the only thing you could
Speaker 3: hear is that that vocalization. I think later on I
Speaker 3: learned that that was a fox in distress. So, but
Speaker 3: did sounds like a chimpanzee being a part?
Speaker 2: Yeah, those foxes sound really weird when they are. Yeah,
Speaker 2: foxes can freak you out and freak you out. I
Speaker 2: know that from living up in New England for a while.
Speaker 2: But so, the thing I like about having a channel
Speaker 2: myself is sometimes when you talk to someone, there's the
Speaker 2: accounts that they give, it's almost a life breeds into
Speaker 2: them and it just it starts this whole story. Start
Speaker 2: investigating this one area and then it just gets bigger
Speaker 2: and bigger. Can you think of any things in the
Speaker 2: history of sasquatch theory where it's like I talked to
Speaker 2: this one guy and then this one area just became
Speaker 2: this massive, like huge storyline in the channel.
Speaker 3: As far as like people who told their encounters and
Speaker 3: it became like a mainstream thing in the big fill community.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, like let's say, like for example, like
Speaker 2: when I think of my channel, I think of like
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff that always comes out of
Speaker 2: Oakrage Ore again, and it's like you keep looking into
Speaker 2: it and more and more, and like sometimes it feels
Speaker 2: like you keep looking into this one area and you
Speaker 2: just get more and more reports and kind of gets
Speaker 2: a life of his zone of its own.
Speaker 1: Has that ever happened to you on sasquatch theory?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, absolutely. There's several areas just a Missouri that
Speaker 3: I keep getting reports it's from There's an area east
Speaker 3: like southeast of Solid in Missouri. I mean there's just
Speaker 3: a lot of reports there. Like I'm always getting reports,
Speaker 3: and I say always. It's not like every day, but
Speaker 3: every now and then I'll get reports from there, and
Speaker 3: they kind of build up over time. I've noticed that
Speaker 3: South Missouri is a hot area. Southeast Missouri is pretty hot.
Speaker 3: I was out there investigating an area in the Mark
Speaker 3: Twain National Forest in southeast Missouri, and I went out
Speaker 3: there and made a film, and the property owner told
Speaker 3: me that he went out one morning about three am
Speaker 3: with this flashlight and there's a sasquatch lane at the
Speaker 3: edge of the yard into the woodline, and it just
Speaker 3: stood up and like walked off and kind of looked
Speaker 3: back at him. And he had a lot of experiences
Speaker 3: after that. I went out there and filmed that. We
Speaker 3: went around walking down by the creek bottom, and we
Speaker 3: didn't really find too much. We found some questionable tracks
Speaker 3: and just not a whole lot happened. So we were
Speaker 3: in the yard by the campfire, and I was thinking,
Speaker 3: in my mind, Okay, nothing happened today, there's no reason
Speaker 3: to really stay the night. I'm probably gonna go home.
Speaker 3: Everyone's talking back and forth, and I'm waiting for them
Speaker 3: to stop talking so I can be like, well, I
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna head out, And right before I can
Speaker 3: even say that, this loud wood knock happens, like it
Speaker 3: sounds like someone hit two wooden baseball bats together, and
Speaker 3: we all look at each other, white eyed, like did
Speaker 3: you just hear that? And then another wood knock boom,
Speaker 3: and then another one boom, and they're coming like it's
Speaker 3: all happening around the yard, like it's not just one
Speaker 3: sasquatch like there's several of them down in there, and
Speaker 3: it just keeps happening, like the wood knocks. It sounds
Speaker 3: like they're just walking around the woods at the edge
Speaker 3: of the woodline, like dragging like limbs and snapping twigs.
Speaker 3: So we sat there and listened to them vocalized. It
Speaker 3: was the coolest thing ever. I mean, it was magical, honest.
Speaker 3: So I walked up to where this thing was wood
Speaker 3: knock and it was right there in the woods, and
Speaker 3: I grabbed my audio recorder and set it like right
Speaker 3: there in front of him in the yard. There was
Speaker 3: like this pile of logs, So I just set it
Speaker 3: on the logs and I got some really good audio.
Speaker 3: But none of the other guys wanted to go close
Speaker 3: to him, like they were terrified. I would ask it
Speaker 3: to wood knock, it would would knock. I asked it
Speaker 3: to push it over a tree, and then it pushed
Speaker 3: over a tree. It didn't happen as soon as I asked,
Speaker 3: like it would happen like thirty seconds after i'd ask
Speaker 3: I don't know if it could understand me, but it
Speaker 3: did all those things. And I asked it to do
Speaker 3: that because obviously I know Bigfoot does all that, But
Speaker 3: I went out there and things kept happening throughout the months,
Speaker 3: throughout the weeks, and we just hear them vocalize and
Speaker 3: it was it was awesome. But later on, another guy
Speaker 3: contacts me. His name's Adam. He's got that channel called
Speaker 3: the Half Inch Wrench Crew. I'm not sure if you
Speaker 3: ever watched it, but I saw that. Yeah, he thinks
Speaker 3: that I'm like from a different state. He has no
Speaker 3: idea how excuse me that I'm from Missouri. But he
Speaker 3: asked me where I live and I'm like, I'm from Missouri.
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, I'm from Missouri too, And then he
Speaker 3: told me the town that he's from. And I'm like, dude,
Speaker 3: do you know that Bill's cabin is right up the
Speaker 3: road from you. He's like, no, huh. He's like, you're
Speaker 3: from Missouri, you're from this area. I was like yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, I've been researching right up the road
Speaker 3: from where you've been having experiences. And that kind of
Speaker 3: blew his mind. He couldn't believe that. And I mean
Speaker 3: when he said the name of the town, I knew
Speaker 3: he was telling the truth because I've been going down
Speaker 3: there doing research and he showed me the photos that
Speaker 3: he's that he'd captured as far as like tracks his
Speaker 3: neighbor has like greenhouses, and the sasquatch would get in
Speaker 3: there and like press up the grants up against like
Speaker 3: the greenhouse. So it was really cool. And yeah, there's
Speaker 3: reports are coming out of there frequently.
Speaker 2: That is is fascinating. Missouri is such an interesting state
Speaker 2: when it comes to Bigfoot. There are so many things
Speaker 2: going on. There's one that I always want. I always
Speaker 2: like to bring up whenever I'm talking to someone from
Speaker 2: Missouri just to see if there's anything there that you
Speaker 2: know anything about it? But have you ever heard of
Speaker 2: the spot Monkey Mountain? I think it's north of Kansas City.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get people that talk about Monkey Mountain and
Speaker 3: I've never been there, but I hear about it. It's
Speaker 3: pretty close to like an air Force base, like east
Speaker 3: of Kansas City. I'm pretty close to Eyebney, I think
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: Have you heard of actual class as happening there or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard. I've heard of a few, and I
Speaker 3: took a few reports from that area. I can't remember
Speaker 3: the towns that are around it, but I want to say,
Speaker 3: like the town's called like Spring Spring something and it's
Speaker 3: pretty close to Monkey Mountain. But yeah, there's also another
Speaker 3: guy I interviewed after the Killing Fields, a guy that
Speaker 3: owned like a little gift shop in Salem, Missouri, experiences
Speaker 3: there and yeah, it seems to be a hot area.
Speaker 3: I'm not really sure what's going on there because a
Speaker 3: lot of people say the activities like in the Ozar's
Speaker 3: in the Mark Twain. But I tell them, this stuff
Speaker 3: can happen anywhere. If you got woods, you have trees,
Speaker 3: they can be in there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and especially if your property is like next
Speaker 2: to a river and there seems to be like a
Speaker 2: bend in that river. I mean, I usually find that
Speaker 2: that's a pretty good indicator. But you know, you focus.
Speaker 2: It seems a lot of your time in Missouri. Have
Speaker 2: you ever, you know, went out to other states or
Speaker 2: is there a plan maybe to check out other spots
Speaker 2: in the future or just kind of stick in Missouri.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I've been to South Carolina and the girlfriend lives there,
Speaker 3: and we went exploring a few areas where she's had
Speaker 3: things happen, some paranormal stuff. And as soon as we
Speaker 3: get to that area, we hear something by people walking
Speaker 3: down the hill in the Appalachian mountains, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: since we just got out of the car in the
Speaker 3: parking lot, those are people coming down the hill. So
Speaker 3: I didn't record it. I didn't want to be staying
Speaker 3: there with my camera as these people walk down, I'm
Speaker 3: filming them like they're animals. But whatever it was, it
Speaker 3: just stopped at the like before it could present itself,
Speaker 3: and it just stopped. Everything got silent. So later on
Speaker 3: I thought, man, that must have been Bigfoot, but I
Speaker 3: don't know. But we went down about five miles from
Speaker 3: that area. We were checking out a new spot and
Speaker 3: from the parking lot. When we're parked there, there's this
Speaker 3: big pine thicket and I start to see like a
Speaker 3: bunch of brakes and I don't know if it's like
Speaker 3: wind damage, but I go in there, I start exploring
Speaker 3: it and I find a ton of structures. I mean,
Speaker 3: these are awesome structures. A lot of people don't believe
Speaker 3: the structures are created by Bigfoot. They think it's just
Speaker 3: wind damage snowload, which some of it could be. But
Speaker 3: I mean, this is like perfect symmetrical axes. And there's
Speaker 3: a bunch of axes in there, a bunch of arches,
Speaker 3: a bunch of trees weaved in to each other. It
Speaker 3: was pretty cool. I went to Alaska and we did
Speaker 3: an expedition up there for seven days, and we found
Speaker 3: a bunch of tree breaks in this area that was
Speaker 3: infested with grizzly bears. And as me and the other
Speaker 3: researcher were walking through the area, I looked to my
Speaker 3: right and I see like this black head and it
Speaker 3: kind of shoots off to the right. He's walking in
Speaker 3: front of me, and I start walking backwards. Well, as
Speaker 3: soon as I start walking backwards, he is too, and
Speaker 3: I asked him, did you see something? He's like, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, what did you see? I was like,
Speaker 3: was it a black head? He's like, yeah, a black head?
Speaker 3: But we don't know if that was bigfoot, But I mean,
Speaker 3: whatever it was capture our attention and it was pretty cool.
Speaker 3: I mean, walking around at two in the morning and
Speaker 3: Alaska in the middle of like the Kenan Peninsula, it
Speaker 3: is freaky. Oh yeah, I mean we ran into grizzly
Speaker 3: bears and it was freaky.
Speaker 2: Oh, Miguel, that's intense. You don't get too many too
Speaker 2: many tries up there. From what I here, you got
Speaker 2: to be really on your toes so I'm glad that
Speaker 2: you were well aware of what's going on for sure.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, oh yeah, we were all alarms, so I
Speaker 3: felt pretty confident. He had a German shepherd, and I
Speaker 3: felt like that was our little alarm system. But it's
Speaker 3: it's different up there in Alaska because the time zones
Speaker 3: like three hours off and it doesn't get dark, like
Speaker 3: it's daylight even at like two in the morning all
Speaker 3: the way till morning time, like it just gets like
Speaker 3: it's almost like it's getting dusk, but it's still daylight,
Speaker 3: and then it just gets bright again. Kind of weird.
Speaker 2: It's got to mess with you for sure. Then, Miguel,
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you chatting tonight. There's the last question
Speaker 2: I have for you is you know, and you may
Speaker 2: have even gotten this one before from listeners, but I'm
Speaker 2: sure you have a lot of people watching your channel
Speaker 2: and they're like, man, I want to go out there,
Speaker 2: I want to check out Sasquatch areas myself. Do you
Speaker 2: have any advice for people that you know wantin to
Speaker 2: start going out and looking for bigfoot themselves.
Speaker 3: H The best thing I can say is go out
Speaker 3: there and hunt. Spend a lot of time in an
Speaker 3: area and maybe they'll approach. You go and camp in
Speaker 3: a remote area off the river and do some whoops
Speaker 3: and wood knocks, maybe you'll get a reaction. But it's
Speaker 3: hard to point people in that direction because you can
Speaker 3: look up like these class A encounter sighting areas and
Speaker 3: see this cluster of bigfoot encounters and go out there
Speaker 3: and spend a lot of time in those areas and
Speaker 3: never hear or see anything. It's all random by nature,
Speaker 3: and these things are pretty rare, and they can be
Speaker 3: many miles in between. And I mean, we hear all
Speaker 3: these stories and encounters from the Internet, but in reality
Speaker 3: is like a lot of them took place like in
Speaker 3: the seventies or you know, a long time ago when
Speaker 3: someone was just a kid. And when we hear these
Speaker 3: new reports, like there's not there's not that many people
Speaker 3: in a state that are have encounters. We just hear
Speaker 3: a lot of them because of the Internet. We're like, oh, man,
Speaker 3: Tennessee has a lot of encounters. But in reality, if
Speaker 3: you lived in Tennessee, if you lived in those areas
Speaker 3: that are hot spot areas, you can ask hunters that
Speaker 3: have been hunting there for forty years and they'll tell you,
Speaker 3: I've never seen or heard anything, and I've been out
Speaker 3: here in my whole life, so it's it's really hard
Speaker 3: to say, but yeah, the best advice I can get
Speaker 3: people is all of the food, all the waterways, and
Speaker 3: maybe you'll hear something.
Speaker 2: That's great advice.
Speaker 1: Do you mind?
Speaker 2: So I feel it's it's really important if you enjoy
Speaker 2: a channel to be able to support the channel. Can
Speaker 2: you share, just for a few minutes about how people
Speaker 2: can you know, keep up to date with sasquatch theory
Speaker 2: and maybe different ways they can help you, you know,
Speaker 2: keep to make videos for the future.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mainly to YouTube. I'm on Facebook and Instagram
Speaker 3: and those seem to be the ones that work for me.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, if you want to see photos
Speaker 3: and short videos, you can go to Facebook and Instagram,
Speaker 3: and as far as the YouTube, that seems to be
Speaker 3: the main focus for me. But yeah, if people want
Speaker 3: to support the channel, they can purchase some merchandise. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think the last time I sold something was a
Speaker 3: few months ago. But I mean, the best thing they
Speaker 3: can do is just watch the videos and if you
Speaker 3: have an encounter you would like to share, contact Jeremiah
Speaker 3: or myself and we'd both like to hear your encounters.
Speaker 2: Absolutely well. Thanks again for hanging out for a bit, Miguel,
Speaker 2: and it's a pleasure to be able to chat with
Speaker 2: you tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, and thank you for giving me the opportunity
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Speaker 3: Her and I can get on here. We can tell
Speaker 3: our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening it's
Speaker 3: too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give
Speaker 3: them the courage to come out. And I feel so
Speaker 3: bad about it.
Speaker 1: Who cares what anybody's thinks.
Speaker 3: I know what I saw, I know what's out there.
Speaker 3: That's all I care. Please let people know, Please let
Speaker 3: them know. If you ever see one of these things,
Speaker 3: you need you tell, because if you don't, then shame
Speaker 3: on you, you know, shame on you,