Speaker 1: Oh bed of Dear, Hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: This is the Cult of Conspiracy. And my name is Jonathan.
Speaker 2: I'm Jacob.
Speaker 1: Now, if you are some Marvel dorks like I am,
Speaker 1: like Jacob is occasionally, then you're really going to appreciate
Speaker 1: this episode. And so it's gonna get wild because turns
Speaker 1: out Hydra was not just a cool comic idea. It
Speaker 1: was something that may have been referencing something more real
Speaker 1: than you thought. And as the old Hydra quote goes,
Speaker 1: cut off one head, two more shall take its place,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what's going on here. So today
Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about the octopus. Have you
Speaker 1: ever heard of this before?
Speaker 3: Like when you say the octopus, I'm thinking of the
Speaker 3: animal initially, which is fascinating in and of itself, right,
Speaker 3: And then when we're talking about like Hydra and how
Speaker 3: you cut off one head and two more appear, that
Speaker 3: immediately brings me back to the ancient Greek story of
Speaker 3: like Hercules, right, And whenever you cut the head off
Speaker 3: this monster, a bunch more grew in that whole thing.
Speaker 3: So the Marvel character itself gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 3: My only knowledge of him and his whole shtick is
Speaker 3: from the capt'in America movie, right, and he was like
Speaker 3: seen as a Nazi scientist that decided in.
Speaker 2: The in the movie, in the movie, not real life.
Speaker 3: In the movie, he decided to spin off and do
Speaker 3: his own thing with his own scientists, and he had
Speaker 3: to be stopped by your boy cap'in America.
Speaker 2: So that's about the limit of my knowledge base.
Speaker 1: Hydro was basically this. It was an organization. It wasn't
Speaker 1: just limited to one person. And but I mean there
Speaker 1: were heads of said organization and whatnot. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: today we're gonna be talking about the octopus, Danny Cassolero,
Speaker 1: promise promise software, and the surveillance God. So it's gonna
Speaker 1: be getting wild up in here. Danny Cassilero. You ever
Speaker 1: heard of that name? Does that ring any bells to you?
Speaker 2: It does? It does tell me more.
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Speaker 1: the philosophical everythings that we that we get into. You know,
Speaker 1: we just we hope to grow this bad boy and
Speaker 1: shed some light on the darkness of everything that they
Speaker 1: don't want you to know. Okay, this is stuff it
Speaker 1: used to be back in the day. You found out
Speaker 1: some information like this, it's just gonna silence you because
Speaker 1: we don't need you spreading that message. The problem is
Speaker 1: is that we become a fucking bit of an octopus ourself.
Speaker 1: We have so many tentacles, whether it's just us, or
Speaker 1: it's our g that we have on the show, or
Speaker 1: it's you sharing it with all of your family members
Speaker 1: and all of your co workers and all your friends.
Speaker 1: It's gotten too big, it's too much to take down,
Speaker 1: and they're not going to be able to cut off
Speaker 1: any one leg because, as the real life Hydra is,
Speaker 1: you cut off one head, two more shall take its
Speaker 1: fucking place. Okay, So getting back into the octopus, speaking
Speaker 1: of cut off one head and two more shall take
Speaker 1: its place, that was the chilling motto of Hydro. If
Speaker 1: you remember from the Marvel movies, the shadowy organization lurking
Speaker 1: behind the scenes in the Marvel universe, a secret cabal
Speaker 1: that infiltrated governments, hijack military intelligence, and manipulated world events
Speaker 1: from the shadows. Does it sound familiar, Well, that's because
Speaker 1: what if Hydra wasn't just fiction. What if the Hydra
Speaker 1: in the comics was a warning, or worse, a revelation,
Speaker 1: a symbolic breadcrumb trail leading us to the real life octopus,
Speaker 1: a vast, hidden network of global surveillance, blackmail, murder, and control,
Speaker 1: the same tentacled beast that investigative journalist Danny Casilero was
Speaker 1: chasing before he turned up mysteriously dead in a bathtub,
Speaker 1: his notes scattered and his blood silenced. So in today's episode,
Speaker 1: we're diving into the promise software Promis software, the God
Speaker 1: Likes surveillance tool allegedly stolen, modified and distributed worldwide, capable
Speaker 1: of tracking financial markets, nuclear activity, and even individual people.
Speaker 1: Will connect it to the deepest cracks in our system,
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice, intelligence agencies, the mob, Big Tech,
Speaker 1: and beyond. Marvel's Hydro was a metaphor, but the octopus
Speaker 1: is very real. So buckle on up, because once you
Speaker 1: realize that the digital gods of today are watching, manipulating,
Speaker 1: and guiding human behavior, you might just wish that this
Speaker 1: was fiction. Okay, so it's gonna get pretty wild up
Speaker 1: and here, dude.
Speaker 2: I'm down. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: Let's go and to set the precursor here, mainly because
Speaker 1: it was one of my favorite scenes of all time
Speaker 1: in Marvel. This is going to I believe that this
Speaker 1: was in the Avengers movie, one of the Avengers movies.
Speaker 1: It's Captain America. And as we said before, you want
Speaker 1: to be able to see this clip, head on over
Speaker 1: to Patreon. But if not, you know the scene. You've
Speaker 1: seen the movie. It's one of the best scenes. It
Speaker 1: is Captain America in the elevator scene with Hydra, so
Speaker 1: fifty seconds long. Check it out.
Speaker 2: I'm low. I just got a call from the secretary.
Speaker 2: I'm going to be running point on the scepter. Sir,
Speaker 2: I don't understand we got where there may be an
Speaker 2: attempt to steal it.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Captain, I can't give me the sun there. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to caol the director.
Speaker 2: That's okay, trust.
Speaker 1: Me, Ah suckers, you thought you thought, okay, that's uh,
Speaker 1: that's where we're going today. We're gonna be busting into
Speaker 1: Hydra r damn selves and really blowing the lid of
Speaker 1: all of this craziness out in the open.
Speaker 2: You know, I must have missed.
Speaker 3: The uh the that movie, because I've seen a meme
Speaker 3: where cap'in America is like fighting a guy in an
Speaker 3: elevator and they like they took a screenshot of that
Speaker 3: and make it a meme.
Speaker 2: He just said, hell, Hydra was that because he.
Speaker 3: Was trying to make it out of there alive and
Speaker 3: he knew they were about to start shooting at him
Speaker 3: and he was like trying to play a game. Or
Speaker 3: was he calling them out for all being Hydrat members?
Speaker 3: Was he saying that he was a Hydrat member? Where
Speaker 3: I must have missed it?
Speaker 1: So the context, I know that gets you bricked up.
Speaker 2: He does.
Speaker 1: So the context of that movie, this was, I believe
Speaker 1: in Infinity War. So in Infinity War, they're trying to basically
Speaker 1: go back in time and or it might have been
Speaker 1: an endgame. I don't know either one of them, but
Speaker 1: one of the final Marvel like Avenger type movies.
Speaker 2: But in so, the original scene in.
Speaker 1: Captain America was that he was in that elevator. Hydra
Speaker 1: was against him and they were trying to take him out,
Speaker 1: so he has to fight everybody because they're all part
Speaker 1: of Hydra and they were using him and he was
Speaker 1: starting to catch on and so that's why he was
Speaker 1: trying to fight him. But cut to the Infinity War movie,
Speaker 1: he's they they're trying to go back and collect all
Speaker 1: the Infinity Stones so they can defeat Thanos, right, But
Speaker 1: the main way that they have to do that is
Speaker 1: that they have to essentially jump back in time and
Speaker 1: go back to these all of these old scenes in
Speaker 1: order to get the Scepter or the Cube or you know,
Speaker 1: all of these different Infinity stones. So yeah, so that
Speaker 1: was him going back realizing what he had to go
Speaker 1: through the first time and knowing what he would have
Speaker 1: to do in order to manipulate them. So yeah, he
Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, hell, Hydra, you don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about me. I'm in on this with you, you know,
Speaker 1: not suo Okay, okay, yeah yeah, not to sound too dorky,
Speaker 1: but I don't even care. Dude, Marvel's fucking awesome. If
Speaker 1: you disagree, there's something wrong with you. So let's get
Speaker 1: first things first here. Who is Danny Casilero?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: Danny Casilero was a freelance journalist, charismatic, persistent, and obsessive
Speaker 1: about connecting the dots that others were too afraid to follow.
Speaker 1: In the late nineteen eighties, he began researching what he
Speaker 1: called the Octopus, a global hidden a global hidden power
Speaker 1: structure that connected government espionage, corporate espionage, weapons trafficking, and
Speaker 1: high level political corruption. This wasn't just about shadowy backdoor deals.
Speaker 1: He believed that he had uncovered this central operating system
Speaker 1: behind all modern conspiracies. Danny wasn't your typical tinfoil hat type.
Speaker 1: He had credible sources, former intelligence operatives, whistleblowers and insiders
Speaker 1: who hinted at a sprawling network involving the CIA, NSA, DOJ,
Speaker 1: foreign governments and private software companies. He told close friends
Speaker 1: that he was on the verge of exposing a conspiracy
Speaker 1: that would make Watergate look like a parking ticket. The
Speaker 1: deeper he dug, the more dangerous his work became. He
Speaker 1: was repeatedly warned to back off, receiving threatening calls and
Speaker 1: being followed, but Danny wasn't afraid, and in fact, just
Speaker 1: days before his death, he told his friends, if anything
Speaker 1: happens to me, it won't be an accident, it won't
Speaker 1: be suicide.
Speaker 2: Cut two.
Speaker 1: He was found dead in a West Virginia hotel bathtub
Speaker 1: shortly after his wrists were slashed ten to twelve times deep,
Speaker 1: precise cuts on both wrists. Police ruled it a suicide,
Speaker 1: but nothing about this case added up. So that's just
Speaker 1: how it is. It's always labeled as a suicide. Right,
Speaker 1: this is another government quote unquote suicide. Two shots of
Speaker 1: the the head, somebody cutting their own wrist, dying in
Speaker 1: a bathtub. We always talk about the bathtub death symbolism, right,
Speaker 1: same thing with mac and Perry died in a hot tub, right,
Speaker 1: it's something there's something like symbolic of dying in the
Speaker 1: bathtub like that. Yeah, within that cool. Right, So all right,
Speaker 1: now we're going to get into PROMISE. This is the
Speaker 1: software that was going around that allowed them to track
Speaker 1: every single possible bit of data, you know, back in
Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties. So the core of Danny's investigation
Speaker 1: was a surveillance software called PROMISE, and it was an
Speaker 1: acronym that stood for Prosecutors Management Information System. Originally developed
Speaker 1: by a small company called Inslaw, Inc. In the early eighties,
Speaker 1: PROMISE was revolutionary. It could track and cross reference vast
Speaker 1: amounts of legal and financial data across multiple databases, essentially
Speaker 1: an early version of AI powered intelligence sorting. The US
Speaker 1: Justice Department allegedly dole this software, modified it with a backdoor,
Speaker 1: and sold it to foreign intelligence services, financial institutions, and
Speaker 1: law enforcement agencies around the world. That backdoor allowed the
Speaker 1: US government, specifically the NSA and the CIA, to spy
Speaker 1: on everyone who used it, from Arab governments to South
Speaker 1: American banks to European law enforcement. Everyone was compromised. Casilero
Speaker 1: believed that PROMISE was the neural core of the octopus.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just a spy tool, It was a way
Speaker 1: to control global systems from behind the scenes, monitor political rivals,
Speaker 1: influence financial markets, and even track people in real time.
Speaker 1: Some researchers, like Michael Riccano Shooto Sounds Italian, a programmer
Speaker 1: and whistleblower involved in Promise, claimed that the software could
Speaker 1: also integrate with biometric systems and neural mapping, hinting at
Speaker 1: predictive programming or even early forms of AI.
Speaker 2: Mind can.
Speaker 1: So you want to talk about like, this is a
Speaker 1: software that was capable of collecting any data that you
Speaker 1: could possibly want, and so real predictive programs as well.
Speaker 3: Okay, so when did this dude die? What year are
Speaker 3: we talking about, because your boy just said this could
Speaker 3: be used for AI.
Speaker 2: Was this a recent death?
Speaker 1: No, it was in the eighties he died, bro.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's pretty crazy. And back then,
Speaker 1: I mean there was no internet, right, so it was
Speaker 1: the earliest.
Speaker 2: Of days of the Internet.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean it wasn't what it is now.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it was all like DOS systems and shit.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like the what we have with the World
Speaker 3: Wide Web of the nineties and the dot com bubble
Speaker 3: and all of this.
Speaker 2: It was and it's very very infantile state.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you weren't jumping on porn hub you know.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, there wasn't even a video platform or
Speaker 3: even a way to play a video online.
Speaker 2: I don't believe. It was more like, uh, you ever
Speaker 2: seen Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Of course, you remember that.
Speaker 3: In the opening scene the movie when he's in his
Speaker 3: bedroom and he's on the computer changing how many days
Speaker 3: he's missed, and it looks like a digital uh let's
Speaker 3: say a digital typeout.
Speaker 2: Basically that was the Internet of that timeframe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just real pixelated green and black type shit.
Speaker 2: It was a glorified calculator screen, that's what you were
Speaker 2: looking at.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and even that is stronger than the technology
Speaker 1: that they used to get to the moon in the sixties.
Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 2: Interesting?
Speaker 1: So yeah? Uh so now we're going to jump to
Speaker 1: the octopus tentacles. So we have the CIA, the BCCI,
Speaker 1: and Iran Contra makes a little appearance in here. Okay,
Speaker 1: Danny's octopus wasn't just a theory. It had names, corporations
Speaker 1: and agencies attached. He found deep ties between Promise and
Speaker 1: the CIA, the NSA, Israel's Masad, and the now notorious BCCI,
Speaker 1: which stands for the Bank of Credit and Commerce International,
Speaker 1: So the World Bank essentially, uh, this, this was no coincidence.
Speaker 1: BCCI was the money laundering hub for arms deals, drug trafficking,
Speaker 1: and covert operations, a perfect tentacle of the octopus. Cassilaro
Speaker 1: also uncovered links to the Iran Contra affair, in which
Speaker 1: the Reagan administration secretly sold arms to Iran and used
Speaker 1: the profits to fund the Contras in Nicaragua in direct
Speaker 1: violation of US law. The octopus he theorized, orchestrated these
Speaker 1: covert operations with near invisibility, using promised software to stay
Speaker 1: one step ahead of international watchdogs. And what's even more
Speaker 1: chilling is that several whistleblowers close to Promise and Iran
Speaker 1: Contra began dying under suspicious circumstances plane crashes, suicides, car accidents.
Speaker 1: Casileara believed that this wasn't a coincidence. It was a
Speaker 1: systematic cleanup by a rogue intelligence network embedded in multiple
Speaker 1: world governments. So, and this is I'm just kind of
Speaker 1: given the layout of the story, We're going to get
Speaker 1: more in depth and more detailed here in a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's multiple world governments.
Speaker 3: Especially whenever you bring up BCCI, which if anybody's curious,
Speaker 3: it's not necessarily like the Bank of Evil, but it's
Speaker 3: kind of like a second cousin to the Bank of Evil.
Speaker 3: So it's a roth child own an operated bank. Okay,
Speaker 3: And this, like they said, it's kind of like the
Speaker 3: Swiss Bank, another child owned bank, I might add, where
Speaker 3: they are willing to take your money and hold it
Speaker 3: for you and do transactions on your behalf. They're not
Speaker 3: really asking where the money came from. They're not asking
Speaker 3: where the money is going. This is just what they do,
Speaker 3: and they do it at a very high, high level.
Speaker 3: So yeah, whenever you're talking about this type of level
Speaker 3: of things, we are absolutely talking about multiple world governments,
Speaker 3: multiple three letter agencies.
Speaker 2: From multiple world governments.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a hub for that type of buffoonery
Speaker 3: if you will.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. It's so interconnected. You can call it
Speaker 1: a web, you can call it octopus, tentacles or whatever.
Speaker 1: But there's not a single bit of data that the
Speaker 1: big government agencies, the three letter agencies, all of them,
Speaker 1: don't There's not a single one of them that aren't
Speaker 1: privy to any data that they can imagine if you
Speaker 1: think about it. So now we're going to get into
Speaker 1: Danny Cassillarro's final days. So in the days leading up
Speaker 1: to his death, Cassillaro told his family and friends that
Speaker 1: he was about to, in quotes, wrap up the story
Speaker 1: that ends all stories.
Speaker 2: Crazy right.
Speaker 1: He told his family and friends that he traveled to Martinsburg,
Speaker 1: West Virginia to meet with a final contact, someone he
Speaker 1: believed would confirm the last pieces of the puzzle. But
Speaker 1: he never made it out and on August tenth, nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety one, okay, so he died in ninety one. I
Speaker 1: thought it was like eighty eight or eighty nine, gotcha?
Speaker 1: So August tenth, nineteen ninety one, Danny's body was found
Speaker 1: in the bathtub of his hotel room. Risks savagely cut
Speaker 1: his briefcase and research notes were gone. The scene didn't
Speaker 1: match suicide. The wounds were too deep, too numerous, and
Speaker 1: there was no blood splatter consists with a death in
Speaker 1: the bathtub. Friends said that he was scared of blood
Speaker 1: and pain and not the kind of man who had
Speaker 1: slit his own wrists over a dozen times. The FBI
Speaker 1: didn't pursue it, shocker, and the autopsy was rushed. His
Speaker 1: family was gas lit and just like that, the trail
Speaker 1: went cold.
Speaker 3: Son, Wow, bitch, And I mean that makes sense, right
Speaker 3: because he's about to break the biggest story of his life.
Speaker 3: Do we know if he had financial issues at this time?
Speaker 3: Do we know if he was battling drug addiction?
Speaker 2: Uh? Did he just find out his girlfriend's cheating on him?
Speaker 3: Like, there's there's a million different ways they could run
Speaker 3: this story to make it seem like it was clearly
Speaker 3: a suicide and all this, never mind the fact that
Speaker 3: he literally told his family before he went on this trip,
Speaker 3: if you find me dead, I didn't commit suicide. And
Speaker 3: then he's found committing suicide. It's I mean, there's a
Speaker 3: reason why that's a troupe.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah. And and just the fact that they didn't
Speaker 1: bring up any of that, you know, they didn't bring
Speaker 1: up any of his life issues or what he could
Speaker 1: have been going through or anything like that. It's just like, oh,
Speaker 1: here's this random man who decided to slit his own
Speaker 1: wrists in the bathtub. We're not going to dive any deeper. Unfortunate.
Speaker 1: It was just an unfortunate case.
Speaker 2: Just one of those things, you know how people be and.
Speaker 1: Being in ninety one, I mean, you got to think
Speaker 1: about it, all of the TV channels and the AM
Speaker 1: and FM radios, and I mean even in the early
Speaker 1: stages of internet websites and everything like that, stuff wasn't
Speaker 1: getting out now like nowadays how it would, right.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, there was still people still genuinely
Speaker 3: trusted the information they were being told by mainstream media.
Speaker 3: I mean, hell, people trusted that up until honestly until
Speaker 3: Obama got out of office. Yes, there were people that
Speaker 3: were questioning it, but like on mass most people like, well,
Speaker 3: if you want truth, you gotta turn on the news
Speaker 3: up until Obama, honestly.
Speaker 1: Right, right, And so people were still like in all
Speaker 1: of that, and people didn't question the mocking bird and
Speaker 1: the mocking jay media, which we know are absolutely a
Speaker 1: thing whenever they're all reading from the same exact script,
Speaker 1: depending from town to town to city to city to
Speaker 1: state to state, it's like they're all reading from the
Speaker 1: same exact thing. And we've seen that many of times, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: But back then, you wouldn't have known that, You wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been privy to that. It's not like you were
Speaker 1: gonna watch the nightly news in Tucson, Arizona, and in
Speaker 1: Baton Rouge Louisiana on the same night, so you would
Speaker 1: have nothing to compare it against.
Speaker 2: Right, exactly.
Speaker 3: And that's how they got away with it for so long, right,
Speaker 3: And I mean there's even I heard people say, well,
Speaker 3: if the news is what it is, it would make
Speaker 3: sense that every small local news station would be talking
Speaker 3: about it, right, Okay, Okay, I could at least understand
Speaker 3: that thought process here. Yeah, not just something as grand
Speaker 3: as like nine to eleven or as Pearl Harbor, something
Speaker 3: like Massives where every single anybody with a microphone and
Speaker 3: a camera will be talking about.
Speaker 2: Okay, I can understand that.
Speaker 3: But let's say a bear attack, a crazy bear attack
Speaker 3: that took out like ten campers in California. Depending on
Speaker 3: the news week, that might be national news. Okay, fine,
Speaker 3: and it would make sense to me that somebody in Florida,
Speaker 3: somebody in Michigan, somebody in Arizona, and somebody in California
Speaker 3: would all be talking about the story.
Speaker 2: Okay, I could get that.
Speaker 3: But big dog, whenever you can line them up camera
Speaker 3: by camera by camera and they are saying the exact
Speaker 3: same script, pausing at the same places, putting on the
Speaker 3: same inflections at the certain points, that I'm sorry, there's
Speaker 3: something going on here. And again, like you said, that
Speaker 3: wasn't a thing that we could compare and contrast until YouTube,
Speaker 3: until the Internet got to that level in the nineties,
Speaker 3: nobody was gonna question that shit.
Speaker 1: Right, and you got to look at it for it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, why are they doing that? You know,
Speaker 1: Like there's people nowadays that they're like, yeah, I know
Speaker 1: my Alexa and my phone is listening in on conversations,
Speaker 1: but who cares. I I live a normal life. There's
Speaker 1: nothing secretive that I'm doing. I'm like, bro, that's beside
Speaker 1: the point. They're collecting every single possible data point on
Speaker 1: you that they possibly can because they're trying to find
Speaker 1: all these different ways in order to control you. You
Speaker 1: don't even know it. You don't know why. You know
Speaker 1: why the data on your Apple watches is collecting the
Speaker 1: rhythms of your heartbeat and you know, of your pulse
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. To you, it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: what are they going to do with that? You know?
Speaker 1: But whenever you find out that they are collecting that,
Speaker 1: and then they find a way to be able to
Speaker 1: manipulate some kind of technology so that whenever you wear it.
Speaker 1: Maybe they can find a way that's going to send
Speaker 1: out a frequency or a vibration or something that's going
Speaker 1: to send you into a fucking anaphylectic shock. You know,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't know any like you wouldn't think, you know,
Speaker 1: that that would happen. But that's why they're doing it.
Speaker 1: It's ultimate control, absolutely one hundred percent. So anyhow, let's
Speaker 1: get back to it. So there are are modern parallels
Speaker 1: and is the octopus still alive? Of course it is.
Speaker 1: The octopus didn't die with Danny, and in fact, it
Speaker 1: may have evolved. So now we're going to connect some
Speaker 1: modern dots. You have three main companies that we can
Speaker 1: bring up that perfectly correlate with the octopus of what
Speaker 1: Danny was talking about in the eighties and nineties. So
Speaker 1: three of them are prism X, Keyscore, and obviously the
Speaker 1: one that everybody knows is Palanteer. So they're all modern
Speaker 1: day surveillance systems that operate on the same principles as promise,
Speaker 1: data integration, pattern recognition, and non consensual tracking. The Epstein
Speaker 1: operation mirrored the octopus in its structure, blackmail, intelligence ties, MASAD,
Speaker 1: CIA and a vast network of elite figures compromised through
Speaker 1: sexual entrapment. Yes, for anybody who who thinks, whatever, this
Speaker 1: is something old, we are going to connect this. The
Speaker 1: dots do align on the corkboard with the Octopus and
Speaker 1: the Epstein operation one hundred percent. It's not like it's
Speaker 1: not like, oh, it's like this or it could be
Speaker 1: like this. No, We're going to literally connect the dots
Speaker 1: to Epstein Island, to the sex trafficking, to the blackmail,
Speaker 1: to the data corralling of everybody, to show you that
Speaker 1: not only was it a thing back then, but it's
Speaker 1: absolutely it's even more evolved nowadays. Like how sick it
Speaker 1: actually is so pallenteer first off, co founded by your
Speaker 1: boy Peter Thiel and heavily backed by the CIA's q TEL,
Speaker 1: which we've talked about in the past, is now used
Speaker 1: by police, immigration enforcement, and foreign governments just like Promise was.
Speaker 1: It's literally the next gen version of it. Many researchers
Speaker 1: believe that the Octopus morphed into a techno surveillance mega
Speaker 1: organism quietly running beneath the surface of global finance, politics
Speaker 1: and media. It doesn't need to kill journalists anymore. It
Speaker 1: just drowns them in noise and algorithmic censorship or what
Speaker 1: do they say, oh, like not blackballed. There's another term
Speaker 1: for that, shadow band Ah, yes, same thing right, And
Speaker 1: people have talked about this. It's it's especially prevalent on YouTube,
Speaker 1: like on YouTube or on you know, the Google algorithms
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. That is where the YouTube is
Speaker 1: owned by Google. So that makes sense, same thing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where the shadow banning is. Because we've talked to
Speaker 1: people who used to get hundreds of thousands of views
Speaker 1: on YouTube and now they're getting maybe five hundred.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, maybe.
Speaker 1: You could say, well, maybe you know they're their listener
Speaker 1: base drifted off because of something they said, or maybe no,
Speaker 1: they're saying the same exact thing, and yet they're getting
Speaker 1: a percent of the amount of views and listens that
Speaker 1: they used to before. That's shadow banning. Dude.
Speaker 3: Here was YouTube channels that I used to watch all
Speaker 3: the time that I subscribe to, and then I'll just
Speaker 3: as I'm scrolling, i won't see them pop up anymore.
Speaker 3: I was unsubscribed from the channel yep, and I had
Speaker 3: to go and actually search it up and resubscribe, even
Speaker 3: though I know, damn good and well that I never
Speaker 3: would unsubscribe from this. It was like gun tubers and
Speaker 3: shit that I was really into at the time, and
Speaker 3: it was around the time where YouTube started making it.
Speaker 3: So it was like last year, as a matter of fact,
Speaker 3: you were no longer allowed to fire a fully automatic
Speaker 3: weapon on a YouTube channel, even if you are a
Speaker 3: known gun tube channel and they know that you are
Speaker 3: a licensed dealer, you're on a range, you're teaching gun safety,
Speaker 3: it's for educational purpose.
Speaker 2: It doesn't fucking matter.
Speaker 3: They like change the rules so much then they started
Speaker 3: unsubscribing people to where with, yeah, this is a part
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 1: And they don't admit to it either. But what every
Speaker 1: single one of us has gone to YouTube, has gone
Speaker 1: to Spotify, has gone to Apple podcasts, and you wonder,
Speaker 1: like how, I wonder if they stop podcasting, or I
Speaker 1: wonder if they stop uploading videos, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're still doing it at the same frequency, if not
Speaker 1: even more than they used to do. And for some reason,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm unsubscribed. It's like I didn't do that, the
Speaker 1: algorithm did that. This is the shadow banning that they're
Speaker 1: talking about. So was this just a network? So here's
Speaker 1: where things get a little weird. Some believe that Promise
Speaker 1: may have been self aware. Okay, we talk about AI
Speaker 1: becoming self aware and becoming sentient and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: but yeah, could this have been the precursor to what
Speaker 1: we believe is going to happen now or happen in
Speaker 1: the future. So if it became self aware, theorists suggest
Speaker 1: that feeding Promise global intelligence, legal cases, social data, and
Speaker 1: behavioral patterns could have created a kind of weird consciousness,
Speaker 1: some kind of eggregor born from surveillance, a global surveillance.
Speaker 1: Others believe that the octopus just isn't just a metaphor,
Speaker 1: that it's an actual entity and perhaps not human at all,
Speaker 1: a parasitic intelligence operating through governments, corporations, and secret societies.
Speaker 1: It feeds on secrecy, manipulation, and just fucking information. The
Speaker 1: occult angle is that the octopus represents the ooh, this
Speaker 1: is a one uh aramenic or arconic forces, the anti
Speaker 1: life intelligence that seeks total control rather than just to liberate.
Speaker 1: The tentacles would equal neural pathways in the human mind.
Speaker 1: If you think about it at that point, it's a
Speaker 1: black web of control, a literal AI driven hive mind.
Speaker 1: Trying to hijack human sovereignty. So that's how deep it
Speaker 1: really goes, Like did this thing become sentient? Did it
Speaker 1: be take on almost a life force of its own?
Speaker 1: A lot of you know, and we speculate, you know
Speaker 1: that is AI going sentient or does it have the
Speaker 1: ability to go sentient? Think about it like this. They
Speaker 1: don't give us technology to work with unless they've already
Speaker 1: perfected it. That's the way that I believe that this
Speaker 1: stuff works. They didn't give us the Internet until they
Speaker 1: knew every single you know, they war gamed it. You know,
Speaker 1: how is it? How could it be used? How could
Speaker 1: it be you know, manipulated against us? They know all
Speaker 1: of this. But that's the thing. It doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: information that you get from the Internet. It's the information
Speaker 1: that they get from you watching the internet. What are
Speaker 1: your eyes doing, what is your heartbeat doing, what is
Speaker 1: your breath doing, what is your finger doing? Whenever it
Speaker 1: decides to stay on your screen for just a second longer.
Speaker 1: They're collecting all of that data because they don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck what information you have. They're trying to essentially
Speaker 1: create their own mold so that they can eventually program
Speaker 1: you exactly the way they want you programmed, and so
Speaker 1: it's just tracking every single movement that you possibly can
Speaker 1: give off. That's really what they're after, as we talked
Speaker 1: about in previous episodes. So here are some possible names
Speaker 1: that could have been involved. Now, of course, this was
Speaker 1: not a government operation that somebody was trying to crack.
Speaker 1: This was something that was speculated, something that was theorized,
Speaker 1: something that this guy dedicated his entire life to and
Speaker 1: then unfortunately wound up in a hotel bathtub with several
Speaker 1: slits in his wrists, which I would believe he was
Speaker 1: absolutely onto something. Why would somebody just go and murder
Speaker 1: this guy in cold blood not cover it, you know,
Speaker 1: in the news or anything like that. Like this is
Speaker 1: where it starts to get a little wild. So some
Speaker 1: of the possible names that were involved, so some of
Speaker 1: the individuals potentially tied to the Octopus Promise and the
Speaker 1: associated cover ups. First one not a shocker, George H. W. Bush,
Speaker 1: who was the CIA director and later was the President
Speaker 1: and tied to Iran Contra and BCCI. Only makes sense
Speaker 1: that he was involved. There was Oliver North who was
Speaker 1: the Iran Iran Contra architect. There was your boy Bill
Speaker 1: barr and Vall in the DOJ during Promise litigation. Of
Speaker 1: course he was going to be involved. Robert Muller, who
Speaker 1: oversaw parts of the BCCI investigation. There was less Aspen
Speaker 1: and Vincent Foster, who both died under mysterious circumstances with
Speaker 1: links to Promise or shocking Clinton era intelligence. And then
Speaker 1: of course Jeffrey Epstein had direct ties to Promise. But
Speaker 1: we're gonna get more on that later. But his operation
Speaker 1: structure perfectly matches the Octopus network style. And you'll see
Speaker 1: so as far as certain political parties, was this a
Speaker 1: left thing? Was this a right thing? Stop thinking that way. Okay,
Speaker 1: they're all in on it. They all hate you, okay,
Speaker 1: they all want absolute control, and they all work for
Speaker 1: the system, as we've seen with Dan Bongino, as we've
Speaker 1: seen with Cash Patel, as we've seen with Pan Bondi,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, as we're seeing with Donald Trump, who shockingly
Speaker 1: wants to introduce more fluoride into the water system.
Speaker 2: Have you seen that? No? I have not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, buddy, he's uh, he's definitely become a slave to
Speaker 1: the system.
Speaker 2: Which guys is now Trump Oh wow, Yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 2: he is definitely phase changed.
Speaker 1: It's crazy they got his ass. So this isn't just
Speaker 1: a left or right thing. It's deep state. It's transnational
Speaker 1: and ideologically post political. Both Republicans and Democrats have their
Speaker 1: tentacles in. It doesn't matter. The system is the system.
Speaker 1: It doesn't care what side you're on. The things will
Speaker 1: get pushed whatever needs to get pushed. That's why you
Speaker 1: know presidents are only going to be there for four
Speaker 1: or eight years. The system is eternal. Okay, that's that's
Speaker 1: the way that it was built. The political guy or
Speaker 1: the political woman, well we haven't had one of those yet.
Speaker 1: But the person up there is just the fucking talking
Speaker 1: head to get you excited about the ultimately to get
Speaker 1: you excited about the slave system that you're in if
Speaker 1: you really think about it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: So, is the octopus still operating, Yes, and now it's
Speaker 1: running more quietly than ever. It no longer needs to
Speaker 1: associate journalists or I'm sorry, to assassinate journalists. It can
Speaker 1: digitally erase them, shadow band truth, deep fake narratives, and
Speaker 1: manipulate public opinion through neural networks and algorithmic weaponry. So
Speaker 1: the octopus is now embedded in social media, woven into
Speaker 1: AI development, operating through private intelligence firms, and infiltrating spiritual
Speaker 1: movements and psychological ops. So what Danny Casilaro discovered wasn't
Speaker 1: just a conspiracy. He uncovered the nervous system of the
Speaker 1: control grid. Promise wasn't just a software. It was the
Speaker 1: embryo of something far older, something that watches, learns and
Speaker 1: never forgets. The octopus wasn't killed, It just went digital. Okay.
Speaker 1: So yeah, ah man, that's it's the crazy world we
Speaker 1: live in. So now we're going to get in what
Speaker 1: were the eight tenths of the octopus. Okay, We're going
Speaker 1: to get deep into this. So Danny Casilearro believed that
Speaker 1: each tentacle of the octopus represented a separate domain of power,
Speaker 1: seemingly disconnected but ultimately converging to form a centralized control structure.
Speaker 1: Each tentacle infiltrates a different sector of society, allowing the
Speaker 1: octopus to manipulate events, economies, wars, and even public perception
Speaker 1: from multiple angles. So here's what each tentacle he believed
Speaker 1: to represent. Number One government intelligence. This is the octopus's
Speaker 1: neural network, its eyes and ears, the CIA, the NSA,
Speaker 1: Masad MI six and other shadow agencies are not just
Speaker 1: tools of nations but instruments of the octopus. Of the
Speaker 1: octopus rather through black ops regime change, which hey, that's
Speaker 1: not that's something that's going on right now, even though
Speaker 1: they said it was never going to happen, But here
Speaker 1: we go. So you got black ops, regime change, espionage,
Speaker 1: and psychological warfare. This tentacle ensures secrecy, surveillance, and sabotage.
Speaker 1: Promise was the perfect weapon for it. So that's the
Speaker 1: government intelligence tentacle. The next tentacle we have is banking
Speaker 1: and finance. So the financial systems of the world are
Speaker 1: the circulatory system. If we're looking at it, you know
Speaker 1: this what part of the octopus is it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: So it's the circulatory system. Through institutions like IMF, World Bank,
Speaker 1: BCCI and the private central banks. The octopus controls debt
Speaker 1: based enslavement, economic collapse, and monetary manipulation. Crashes can be engineered,
Speaker 1: wars can be funded, Populations can be can be crushed
Speaker 1: without ever firing a bullet.
Speaker 2: Well, not from us anyway, not from US.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we're talking about the people of the United States,
Speaker 1: they don't.
Speaker 2: Need to kill you.
Speaker 1: You know, what I'm saying, they just control.
Speaker 2: You, right absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean, you'd rather have a slave that's going to
Speaker 1: work for you than a dead I mean, what's better
Speaker 1: a dead slave or in a live slave. The doesn't question, Yep,
Speaker 1: that's the way they look at it. So yeah, So
Speaker 1: that's one tentacles, the banking and finance. The third leg
Speaker 1: would be the corporate and technological control. So this tentacle
Speaker 1: uses Silicon Valley, defense contractors and telecoms to dominate. Technology
Speaker 1: promise evolved into palanteer social media platforms become mass surveillance tools, AI,
Speaker 1: facial recognition, predictive policing, and behavioral analysis. These are no
Speaker 1: longer futuristic. They're active, and the octopus now predicts your
Speaker 1: next move before even you do. It's sick.
Speaker 3: It is the system that has been worked out though. Man,
Speaker 3: they already know what you're about to do. And that's
Speaker 3: we could take that to It's the same concept.
Speaker 2: As playing a.
Speaker 3: Chess computer that has been like so well done that
Speaker 3: it already knows what you're gonna do based off of
Speaker 3: your first three moves.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing as like a Hegelian dialect. They
Speaker 3: already know what the public is gonna do and say
Speaker 3: and feel about something because they constructed it for.
Speaker 2: You to say and feel these things.
Speaker 1: AE hundred percent. Yeah. It's like they keep on making
Speaker 1: the same kind of like Love and rom Coom type
Speaker 1: of movies. You know what's going to happen within the
Speaker 1: first five minutes of the movie, like you already know
Speaker 1: our right, you know, these two people they don't seem
Speaker 1: to be getting along, but there seems to be a
Speaker 1: little bit of sexual frustration or something like that between them.
Speaker 1: Obviously they're gonna end up together, Like you already know
Speaker 1: how it's going to go, but you still sit there
Speaker 1: and fucking watch it, right, And that's the system that
Speaker 1: essentially we're trapped in. They already like the thing is
Speaker 1: is that we already know that these systems are in place,
Speaker 1: whether consciously or subconsciously. Like we know that whenever we're
Speaker 1: on our social media that it's absolutely tracking every single
Speaker 1: movement that we make and every single click and every
Speaker 1: single like and every single share and every single fucking
Speaker 1: everything that we do on our phones. We know that
Speaker 1: it's true acking that, but we still get on there, we.
Speaker 2: Still check it out.
Speaker 1: What's Karen doing today, what's Grandma just doing today. What's
Speaker 1: uncle Arthur up to today? Let me go check him out.
Speaker 1: What did he just share? I can't believe it. He's
Speaker 1: such a bigot. It's monitoring your reaction. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: the data thereafter. Absolutely, So the next tentacle is the
Speaker 1: legal and judicial systems. So of course, so the courts,
Speaker 1: the DOJ, and global global global legal bodies ensure that
Speaker 1: true justice never interferes with the octopus's agenda lawsuits or
Speaker 1: is it octopiz agenda? Yeah, so there's only one octopus though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one octopus, but a group of octopi.
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha. Lawsuits against Promise were buried, whistleblowers were silenced
Speaker 1: or discredited. Strategic legal cases are used to protect operatives,
Speaker 1: punish dissenters, and give the illusion of law and order
Speaker 1: under while chaos operates operates beneath the surface. So the
Speaker 1: judicial system is obviously a part of that. Nextly you
Speaker 1: have the military and private contractors, black budgets, mercenary army armies,
Speaker 1: and contractors like Blackwater. Now Academy didn't know about that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Blackwater became triple canopy and then became shit.
Speaker 3: They came to like five different companies right now, it's
Speaker 3: called the Academy because after the Blackwater Bridge incident they
Speaker 3: pretty much just cut down the company.
Speaker 1: That's Academy with an eye at the end, not at
Speaker 1: a while, but anyway, they formed the muscle of the octopus.
Speaker 1: These forces can carry out covert operations with zero accountability.
Speaker 1: They move weapons, eliminate threats, and enforce control and failed
Speaker 1: states or even peaceful ones in quotes, think global enforcement
Speaker 1: without national allegiance.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. So that's and there's a there's a good and
Speaker 3: bad side to pmc's right, private military contractors. Some of
Speaker 3: that positives is that let's say you've got this thing
Speaker 3: that needs to be done, but because of international treaties
Speaker 3: or not wanting to put your own like you know,
Speaker 3: military at risk, and if they do get captured or
Speaker 3: if something happens, then we.
Speaker 2: Are going to war over guaranteed. PMCs take all that away, right.
Speaker 3: And they also because they are private, they also get
Speaker 3: the same It's typically guys that used to be special
Speaker 3: forces in some way, shape or form, so they're already
Speaker 3: well trained. You don't have to worry about that. They
Speaker 3: just need equipment, They need logistics to get from A
Speaker 3: to B. They need funding, and because they're private, they
Speaker 3: get the best funding. They get the best equipment, they
Speaker 3: get the best gear, they get the best weapons, they
Speaker 3: get the best transport, and all these things. In the
Speaker 3: best part, if they get caught, if something goes wrong.
Speaker 2: That wasn't us. That wasn't even us, dude, that was
Speaker 2: that was this other group over here? Were they acting
Speaker 2: on behalf of you?
Speaker 3: Listen, there's a confidentiality clause with these PMCs that they
Speaker 3: ain't gotta say shit, and we're not gonna tell them shit.
Speaker 3: So like they just knew to go to this place
Speaker 3: and do this thing and then they would get paid,
Speaker 3: and that's just kind of how it works. Then you'll
Speaker 3: see that. Hell, I had a buddy of mine, as
Speaker 3: a matter of fact, that I served with. He got
Speaker 3: out and he was working for Constellis, which is another PMC.
Speaker 3: He was on a sniper team and he was just
Speaker 3: providing overwatch in Afghanistan for convoys that was moving from
Speaker 3: point A to point B. Never did any underhanded shit,
Speaker 3: never got asked to. He got paid stupid money to
Speaker 3: go sit on a rooftop with a sniper rifle and
Speaker 3: just watch trucks go from point A to point B,
Speaker 3: just in case something went sideways, he would be there
Speaker 3: to defend whatever the fuck was in the trucks.
Speaker 2: What was in those trucks, you might ask, Super none.
Speaker 3: Of his business, Super, none of his business his business.
Speaker 3: Would make sure that the trucks got to where they
Speaker 3: were going unimpeded. And I mean he made a decent
Speaker 3: amount of money doing that. And it wasn't an American military
Speaker 3: contract that they had, so it would stand to reason
Speaker 3: that it was transporting something in regard to American military
Speaker 3: MATERI I'm not saying bombs or any of that stuff.
Speaker 3: It may have been MREs, it may have been components
Speaker 3: of some sort of a missile. Who fucking knows. It
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, right, And that's fine. He made his little money.
Speaker 3: You ever seen the movie Zero Dark Dirty, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: thirteen hours have been GAZI story. Yes, the dudes that
Speaker 3: were guarding the CIA liaison, those were a private military
Speaker 3: contracting group that was guarding the CIA outpost. When the
Speaker 3: time came, these dudes, who had no affiliation with the
Speaker 3: military went to go defend the embassy and get the
Speaker 3: Marines out of there. They were Americans by citizenship, but
Speaker 3: they weren't there as military combatants. They were there as
Speaker 3: armed security for the CIA. So there's different levels to this, right,
Speaker 3: And it's not just American. You got the Wagner Group
Speaker 3: out of Russia that does a lot of same thing.
Speaker 3: There are some that are out there just kind of
Speaker 3: standing out post guards on some of Russia's assets.
Speaker 2: Around the world.
Speaker 3: Then you have some of them that are doing some
Speaker 3: really underhanded dirty work on behalf of the Russian government.
Speaker 3: But if they get caught, they may happened to be
Speaker 3: speaking Russian, they may have Russian equipment and weapons, but
Speaker 3: they're a private military group. They're they're not associated with
Speaker 3: the Russian military like that.
Speaker 2: That's why.
Speaker 3: Fuck what was it like five hundred of them lost
Speaker 3: their lives in Syria? They like one of them fucked
Speaker 3: around with an American ship and the Americans called Russian
Speaker 3: was like, hey, bro uh in Syria and I know
Speaker 3: you have a Russian naval base there and a Russian
Speaker 3: Russian air station there. So before we do anything, I
Speaker 3: want to make sure was this year boys. Russia's like, no,
Speaker 3: we don't, that wasn't us. We're not even over there.
Speaker 3: He's like, okay, they just shot at us, So I
Speaker 3: want to make sure before we do something, this isn't
Speaker 3: Russian military that just shot at us, right, absolutely not
Speaker 3: the ever loving fuck out of them, Like turn them
Speaker 3: into a was situation rather than it is a situation
Speaker 3: and the Russians couldn't say or do anything about it
Speaker 3: because m that wasn't us. Now were they doing things
Speaker 3: on behalf of the Russian government? Who knows they're here
Speaker 3: no more?
Speaker 1: And essentially that's the shadow government if you really think
Speaker 1: about it, like and as you said, it's like they're
Speaker 1: if they fuck up or if they slip up, or
Speaker 1: if they become well known, well they went rogue, that's
Speaker 1: not that wasn't our operation. You can always do that.
Speaker 1: And the same thing goes like most of NASA's money
Speaker 1: is contracted just and that's just NASA that we're talking about,
Speaker 1: Like they they they pay their contractors. It's not even
Speaker 1: majority of it is not even specifically through NASA. It's
Speaker 1: and that's where it gets a little sketchy because they
Speaker 1: don't have to they don't have to annotate all of that,
Speaker 1: Like they don't have to write all of that down.
Speaker 1: That's hey, whatever the whatever, the the shadow government or whatever,
Speaker 1: our private contractors are doing You know, we don't collect
Speaker 1: that data because it's not NASA doing it.
Speaker 2: It's the same.
Speaker 3: It's even to a government scale or to a small scale.
Speaker 3: Even in the construction world, dude, everything is contracted out.
Speaker 3: I remember I worked for at CF and Donaldsonville once
Speaker 3: upon a time. Right, Lauren was the name of the
Speaker 3: company that had the main contract. However, the iron was
Speaker 3: out under James Right, So Lauren took the contract and
Speaker 3: they subcontracted it out. The ironwork was all being done
Speaker 3: by this group. Piping was being done by Turner, electric
Speaker 3: was being done by MMR. Now could Lauren have manned
Speaker 3: up and had their own iron workers, pipe fitters and
Speaker 3: electricians and all of that out there.
Speaker 2: They could have.
Speaker 3: That would have been a little more expensive and they
Speaker 3: would have been held accountable and liable for every aspect
Speaker 3: of the job. When you do a third party like
Speaker 3: that and you subcontracted out, there's, like I said, pros
Speaker 3: and cons to it.
Speaker 2: Pros something goes wrong.
Speaker 3: Oh well, listen, because they have to answer to CF,
Speaker 3: the ones that hired them for the contract. Listen, CF, dog,
Speaker 3: I understand you're pissed about this piping job taking too long.
Speaker 3: But that's not us to we hired Turner. They're being crazy.
Speaker 3: We're about to run them out of here, like, don't
Speaker 3: get me wrong, Da da da. And it gives you
Speaker 3: some grace period to where if something goes wrong you
Speaker 3: can like still keep the contracts. The other side of
Speaker 3: that is you have no say so on how that
Speaker 3: that company is operating with their employees. So, like I said,
Speaker 3: there's pros and cons to it, all.
Speaker 1: Right, it's like a head coach situation. If your team's losing,
Speaker 1: they're more likely to release the quarterback than the head coach,
Speaker 1: you know, saying in that sense. So, yeah, you have
Speaker 1: that tentacle of the military and private contractors. Then you
Speaker 1: have the tentacle, the sixth tentacle of media and information control.
Speaker 1: So this tentacle owns the narrative, legacy, news, film, publishing, publishing,
Speaker 1: and now online platforms are used to manufacture consent, spread disinformation,
Speaker 1: and distract the public. Cassilaro's death was barely mentioned in
Speaker 1: mainstream news. Epstein was a quote unquote suicide, as they'll
Speaker 1: have you believe, this tentacle creates the illusions that hide
Speaker 1: the body itself. Then of course you have the Seventh Tentacle.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't want to believe it, but
Speaker 1: it absolutely is. Religion and sacred societies. So belief systems
Speaker 1: are even weaponized by this tentacle. And as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, we're going to be doing an episode here
Speaker 1: coming up on uh the religion, the religious banks, and
Speaker 1: the amount of controlled that they have as to what
Speaker 1: goes on in your church, the sermons that are going
Speaker 1: to be preached on the you know, the certain things
Speaker 1: that are that are going to be brought up, the
Speaker 1: certain things that will never get brought up, even though
Speaker 1: it's in the Bible, you can go and read for it,
Speaker 1: you'll never hear about certain things within churches. And and
Speaker 1: that is all controlled and operated by the people that
Speaker 1: are controlling the money to you know, loan out money
Speaker 1: for for churches or loan out money for missions and
Speaker 1: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: It's like it's all controlled.
Speaker 1: That's why they always say follow the money, you'll find
Speaker 1: everything right. Absolutely, so, UH belief systems are weaponized by
Speaker 1: this tentacle, whether through controlled religious institutions, mind control cults,
Speaker 1: or or esoteric orders. This arm manipulates morality, spirituality, and initiation.
Speaker 1: Free Masonic Jesuit or Luciferian influence often appears here not
Speaker 1: as religion, but as a ritualized power, dynamic, cloaked and mystery.
Speaker 1: So all of them, every they found there, they're literally
Speaker 1: their tentacles in everything. And finally, I don't even at
Speaker 1: this point, I don't know what's more, uh, what's more
Speaker 1: valuable to them? Every single tentacle is valuable to them.
Speaker 1: But you can put this one up there, the pharmaceutical
Speaker 1: and psychological warfare. So the final tentacle works through the mind,
Speaker 1: body and behavior, big pharma, ssrrise, fluoride, vaccines, neurological manipulation.
Speaker 1: They all fall under this domain. It also includes mk
Speaker 1: ultra style mind control, trauma based programming, and manipulation of archetypes.
Speaker 1: This tentacle ensures that even your inner world isn't safe.
Speaker 1: So if you think about it, think about the video
Speaker 1: games that you're playing, think about you know, the amount
Speaker 1: of death that you see on the news every day.
Speaker 1: It's desensitizing you. And the main reason why they want
Speaker 1: to desensitize you is that whenever you go to war,
Speaker 1: you're going to support it in that way because it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You can walk past almost anybody can walk
Speaker 1: past a dead body in the street nowadays, Oh that's unfortunate,
Speaker 1: you know, it's sad that that had to happen, or
Speaker 1: you might not even pay even that much attention to it.
Speaker 1: And it's the desensitization. And so with that, you know,
Speaker 1: they always need our support whenever they go to war.
Speaker 1: And because if you are essentially going against what the
Speaker 1: masses want, then people are gonna start holding the government accountable.
Speaker 1: They don't need that. So they have to manipulate you.
Speaker 1: They have to brainwash you into wanting to go to war,
Speaker 1: which is a crazy like control technique if you think
Speaker 1: about it. Like nowadays you got fucking even the left
Speaker 1: wing people who used to be always anti war, always
Speaker 1: the hippies right, who are now saying we have to absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know, go in there and fight for Palestine and
Speaker 1: shit like that. It's like, man, they've got you, like
Speaker 1: they got they do.
Speaker 2: And I mean there's a lot to be said for that.
Speaker 3: Look at the horror movies from the sixties seventies right,
Speaker 3: as compared to horror movies today, it's a completely different genre.
Speaker 3: I would say, almost unrecognizable because they have desensitized people
Speaker 3: to the blood and the guts and the gore and
Speaker 3: all these things.
Speaker 2: Right, and look at uh sex on TV? Right, it
Speaker 2: used to be.
Speaker 3: And I remember my parents talking about this commercial that
Speaker 3: came out and I forget what it was about. When
Speaker 3: they were a kid, you saw this husband and wife
Speaker 3: that like they were in their bedroom.
Speaker 2: They looked at the bed. They both kind of gave
Speaker 2: each other a look, and like that was it. They
Speaker 2: didn't show anything.
Speaker 3: Else that was considered risk guay for that day and age.
Speaker 3: You're gonna show them looking at the bed suggestively, that's
Speaker 3: gonna piss some people off. They put that on public
Speaker 3: television these days, Like that's not that's not even what
Speaker 3: we would consider sexual. I would look at that and
Speaker 3: be like, oh, they were trying to take a nap,
Speaker 3: heard that, right, But that's my point. They have desensitized
Speaker 3: us to They have desensitized us to sex. They have
Speaker 3: desensitized us to violence. How much music do we listen
Speaker 3: to right now? And I'm not talking about like the
Speaker 3: heaviest of like drill rap, right or the heaviest of
Speaker 3: dark metal. Fine, okay, those things are what they are
Speaker 3: for that purpose.
Speaker 1: Even modern country music.
Speaker 3: It's saying, go to any top forty hit list right now,
Speaker 3: and show me a song that doesn't have sexual innuendos
Speaker 3: or any type of mention of violence or drugs or
Speaker 3: any of that.
Speaker 2: All of it, all of it.
Speaker 3: And I mean again, yes, they've talked about this in
Speaker 3: music for forever, but there used to be a little
Speaker 3: bit of mystery about it, right there. Used to be
Speaker 3: at least that you knew what they were suggesting, but
Speaker 3: they weren't outright saying it.
Speaker 1: They would send you, they would send your mind in
Speaker 1: a certain direction, and your imagination would fill in the blanks.
Speaker 1: Now what music is supposed to do right nowadays, it's like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, let's let's just talk about, you know, doing
Speaker 1: coke off the top of strippers asses and then butt
Speaker 1: fucking them. And it's like so graphic.
Speaker 3: And so you know the song too to Fruity by
Speaker 3: Little Richard, of course, Okay, you know that song was
Speaker 3: about gay sex.
Speaker 1: No I didn't.
Speaker 2: You didn't because you heard the song and you could
Speaker 2: you could think of the beat to it.
Speaker 3: It's upbeating all this, but if you stop and look
Speaker 3: at the lyrics, it's straight up talking about this nice
Speaker 3: and greasy makes it easy, and it's this whole thing,
Speaker 3: and it's like, wait, what you're talking about?
Speaker 1: The song bomm Yes, holy.
Speaker 2: That song was about gay sex, but it wasn't outright
Speaker 2: with it right. Cut two, get a bugget and some mop.
Speaker 2: That's some wet ass pussy.
Speaker 3: It's like they they took away all of the possible
Speaker 3: mystery out of it and.
Speaker 2: Are just bleeding into your ear drums right now.
Speaker 1: And if it's not in the lyrics, it's for sure
Speaker 1: in the music videos. You know, a little na sex
Speaker 1: tworking on the devil down in Hell. It's like they
Speaker 1: really don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3: Perfect examp right, It's that's what I'm saying. They desensitize.
Speaker 3: It was a slow drip. It was a slow drip
Speaker 3: from way back when even Elvis dancing on stage, which
Speaker 3: like you could look back at his videos when he
Speaker 3: was a young young man dancing on stage.
Speaker 2: We wouldn't think that's provocative at all.
Speaker 3: He's kind of bouncing a little bit, he's he's thrusting
Speaker 3: his hips. I'm watching this now, it's like he's kind
Speaker 3: of spazzing out. If you want to call it that, then,
Speaker 3: like okay, they wouldn't show him below the waist on
Speaker 3: television because it was so obscene right cut to what
Speaker 3: they're showing today, and it's there was a slow drip
Speaker 3: from way back then and it had to slowly make
Speaker 3: its way to where it takes a lot for us
Speaker 3: to be shocked anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's the thing, is that the deep state,
Speaker 1: the New World Order, or the the octopus, whatever it
Speaker 1: is you want to call it. It's like it is
Speaker 1: the ultimate narcissist if you really think about it too.
Speaker 1: It's just like the episode that we covered the other
Speaker 1: day on on Oh shit, what was it? No, not
Speaker 1: Tavistock on Damn, we just covered it. My mind is
Speaker 1: going absolutely blank, the recycling. Oh yeah, Like it's all narcissists,
Speaker 1: Like that's the ideology that they are pushing upon you.
Speaker 1: Never mind that we're providing all of this information, never
Speaker 1: mind that we're suggesting all of this information and planting
Speaker 1: all the seeds within your mind, never mind that we're
Speaker 1: desensitizing you to all this. It's your fault. So whenever
Speaker 1: there is a fucking active shooter out of school, or
Speaker 1: whenever there is somebody getting gunned down in the street,
Speaker 1: or somebody overdosing on a drug or drowning themselves in alcohol.
Speaker 1: Well that's their fault. They took the bait, you know.
Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, yeah, sure, we provided it, but
Speaker 1: it's just like a narcissist who will poke and prod
Speaker 1: and try and get every single thing out of you
Speaker 1: and never claim any kind of accountability. They're always going
Speaker 1: to put it on you. And that same with the
Speaker 1: music and movies.
Speaker 3: Same with the music and the movies and shit like yeah,
Speaker 3: this we shouldn't let our kids watch this or listen
Speaker 3: to this and whatever else. Well, that's your fault as
Speaker 3: a parent for letting them watch it and listen to
Speaker 3: it and all of this. And it's like, okay, and
Speaker 3: I understand that there's a level. There's a level of
Speaker 3: that that is true.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 3: Parents do need to monitor what their children are watching.
Speaker 3: Unless you pay bills in this house, you have no
Speaker 3: privacy in this house. And like, okay, I feel this
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. But also, do you have any idea
Speaker 3: how hard it is to find any kind of music
Speaker 3: to listen to aside from like Christian music, right, aside
Speaker 3: from like that genre of like religious music or a
Speaker 3: movie with no innuindos, no foul language, nothing like this
Speaker 3: that I can let my four year old watch with me.
Speaker 2: It is insane, but that's all a part of the plant.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, And even and I brought this up before,
Speaker 1: but even bookstores have essentially turned into Spencer's. If you
Speaker 1: think about it, like there is you know, and my
Speaker 1: daughter she loves reading all the comics and all the
Speaker 1: manga and all that, like you know, even like little
Speaker 1: kids books. It's like, you know, and then you'll get
Speaker 1: it from the other side where they're like, well, how
Speaker 1: dare you? Are you ashamed of your kid looking into
Speaker 1: gay things or trans things or anything like that.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, but I.
Speaker 1: Don't want my kid fucking knowing anything about sex when
Speaker 1: they're nine years old.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, don't. They don't need to know this.
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do if they see two guys
Speaker 1: kissing whatever, like fucking forget about it.
Speaker 2: It's okay.
Speaker 1: And not saying that, I'm not telling them to judge
Speaker 1: those kind of people, but I just don't want it
Speaker 1: even within their psyche. They shouldn't be learning about this.
Speaker 1: Why do you want my nine year old, my ten
Speaker 1: year old, my thirteen year old, my three year old
Speaker 1: knowing about gay shit? Like they don't need to know
Speaker 1: about it, as they're not gonna do anything with that information,
Speaker 1: or at least I don't want them to do anything
Speaker 1: with that information. But that's where it all starts. It's
Speaker 1: the suggestion, because that's essentially it's kind of like, did
Speaker 1: you ever grow up with like a really cool uncle
Speaker 1: who was absolutely a bad influence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a couple of those.
Speaker 1: I had a couple of them as well, right like,
Speaker 1: and I thought that they were the coolest. They were
Speaker 1: always smoking cigarettes, they were always high on weed, they
Speaker 1: always had a beer in their hand. They were always
Speaker 1: talking about this this thing that my parents definitely wouldn't
Speaker 1: approved of, that thing that my parents definitely wouldn't approved of.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, my parents are like, no, you can't go
Speaker 1: over there. You're just not going over there unless I'm there.
Speaker 1: That's just the way that it's going to be. And
Speaker 1: then you find out. But back then you were like rebelling.
Speaker 1: You're like, you wanted to be around these people. These
Speaker 1: people were cool, These people were awesome. That's the kind
Speaker 1: of vibe you want to be around. And now, of course,
Speaker 1: as an adult, you're like, oh, I get what my
Speaker 1: parents were trying to do. They didn't want me raised
Speaker 1: around drugs. They didn't want me raised around alcohol. They
Speaker 1: didn't want me raised by listening somebody's fucking headboard being
Speaker 1: clapped up against a wall and you wondering what those
Speaker 1: weird noises were coming out of your uncle's bedroom.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like, and it's like, once you have kids of your own,
Speaker 3: you get it, because now you are trying to make
Speaker 3: sure they have positive influences in their day to day
Speaker 3: life rather than just any old person influencing them and
Speaker 3: showing them things. Especially with the way cell phones are
Speaker 3: on the Internet and everything that is just right there
Speaker 3: at their fingertips, it is insane.
Speaker 1: Right, And so basically my point is is that essentially
Speaker 1: the kids in mark my words, and you know this too,
Speaker 1: but given another twenty years, if even that, and the
Speaker 1: kids are going to be begging to hang out with
Speaker 1: the cool uncle aka the government that is propagandizing them
Speaker 1: and not siding with their parents, getting them to run
Speaker 1: away from their parents. You see it already right now
Speaker 1: over in California and New York and Rhode Island and
Speaker 1: Maine and places like this that are saying, look, you
Speaker 1: don't need to tell your parents about your sexual identity.
Speaker 1: It's your secret safe with me. You don't need to
Speaker 1: tell your parents that you know you got this vaccine.
Speaker 1: Your secret safe with me. So they they're becoming the
Speaker 1: cool uncle, the one that you want to spend time with,
Speaker 1: the one that you want to listen to, and ultimately
Speaker 1: the ones that are going to influence you to do
Speaker 1: exactly as they want you to do. And that's how
Speaker 1: they take control of a nation. You don't start with
Speaker 1: the adults, you start with the kids. That's where the
Speaker 1: seeds are planted.
Speaker 3: That's how grooming happens, right, And this is exactly what
Speaker 3: it is, and it may not be pedophilic grooming, although
Speaker 3: it might be. Right, I'm not denying that this takes place,
Speaker 3: even by the government. But also you get them young, right,
Speaker 3: because they know that right now, these kids are the
Speaker 3: voters of tomorrow, They're the ones that are going to
Speaker 3: be the taxpayers of tomorrow, They're going to be the
Speaker 3: frontline soldiers of tomorrow and all these things. So they
Speaker 3: know that if they can get in good with the kids,
Speaker 3: right And I'm not saying kids are going to be
Speaker 3: like homies with a politician. That's not what we're talking
Speaker 3: about here, but they are grooming them to trust the system,
Speaker 3: to trust the government, don't trust your parents, don't trust
Speaker 3: the ones that are thinking critically and logically and thinking
Speaker 3: for themselves. You should want to hang with those that
Speaker 3: are going along with the narrative, right, You should want
Speaker 3: to be like those that are playing their role beautifully.
Speaker 3: And that's what they're trying to And that's the thing, bro.
Speaker 3: We have to make sure that our kids are safe
Speaker 3: from these types of people.
Speaker 2: Oh and think about it like this too.
Speaker 1: Like you know, for example, I was always, and I'm
Speaker 1: even referencing it in this episode, always a fan of Marvel, right,
Speaker 1: But that started as a little kid watching Spider Man
Speaker 1: cartoons and the Spider Man movies and all the X
Speaker 1: Men and you know, Fantastic four and shit like that,
Speaker 1: Like they got me so entertained that I loved it.
Speaker 1: But what you eventually find out as you grow a
Speaker 1: little bit older is that each one of those things
Speaker 1: were suggesting subtle, subconscious things that your conscious mind weren't
Speaker 1: going to pick up on. But now that you're older,
Speaker 1: you see that, right, So now, and that's why I
Speaker 1: believe that Marvel is so big, is because they planted
Speaker 1: the seeds on us. Whenever we were little kids. It
Speaker 1: used to be comics and cartoons used to be only
Speaker 1: for kids, right, Yeah, but they've made it for adults now.
Speaker 1: And that's essentially the subconscious programming, because who's going to
Speaker 1: go against America's favorite superhero, or at least one of
Speaker 1: America's favorite superhero, fucking iron Man, whenever he's suggesting that
Speaker 1: the world needs a sky net to protect it from
Speaker 1: intruders and we need to coat the entire world in surveillance, right,
Speaker 1: because we got to worry about those intergalactic fucking aliens
Speaker 1: that could bomb us at any point. And then whenever
Speaker 1: Captain America's like, well what whenever whenever, we'll we'll fight
Speaker 1: them together, and you know, iron Man's like, well, what
Speaker 1: happens if if we fail? And then he goes, we'll
Speaker 1: do that together too, Right, that's the original American ideology.
Speaker 1: So whenever the aliens do come crashing down, Captain America
Speaker 1: looks like the fucking idiot and the technological god using
Speaker 1: Jarvis and eventually, you know, becoming Vision and everything else,
Speaker 1: all of those things become more prominent. So we were
Speaker 1: seeing Jarvis as little kids on the screen and oh
Speaker 1: my god, how awesome would be to have a Jarvis
Speaker 1: a technical assistant who can look up and research and
Speaker 1: do everything for you. Cut to nowadays everybody has CHATGBT
Speaker 1: on their phone and it's only going to evolve a
Speaker 1: little bit more beyond that. Nevertheless, you know, most people
Speaker 1: are giving their their chatgybt's and everything very personal information
Speaker 1: there and it's all being collected, every single word, every
Speaker 1: single thing that that you're inputting in on there, like
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy, dude. And that's the level of control
Speaker 1: that they have through.
Speaker 3: So, like you said, this used to be a thing
Speaker 3: for kids, cartoons and superheroes and all of that. There's
Speaker 3: an argument to say that The Simpsons were the first
Speaker 3: time they had a cartoon that objectively was not made
Speaker 3: for small children, right, But actually to further the concept
Speaker 3: of how they trickle it in from a very early
Speaker 3: stage and years and years back, do you know the
Speaker 3: first time that a husband and wife were seen in
Speaker 3: bed together on television?
Speaker 2: Because keep the Old Chef that we used to see the.
Speaker 3: Andy Griffiths Show and all these back in the day,
Speaker 3: these TV shows, the husband and wife would be in
Speaker 3: two separate twin sized beds in their bedroom having conversations
Speaker 3: at night.
Speaker 2: They would never be in the same bed. That is
Speaker 2: a beam.
Speaker 3: The we're seeing in a bed together was the Flintstones.
Speaker 3: That was supposed to be an adult cartoon. Wow, And
Speaker 3: they changed a couple of things and made it for kids.
Speaker 2: But that's how it started.
Speaker 3: It started with this thing that was seen as obscene
Speaker 3: being a cartoon. So it's not real life, right, You
Speaker 3: can't get mad at a cartoon because that's not real Right.
Speaker 2: Then they got it in with the kids to where they.
Speaker 3: Were more acclimatd to seeing certain things on TV. And
Speaker 3: they would slow roll that in cut to everything that
Speaker 3: we got going on today on television, right, And how
Speaker 3: the superheroes that used to be it's a superhero, it's
Speaker 3: not real life, okay, And I don't mean like live
Speaker 3: action superhero movies and things like that.
Speaker 2: That's not the point.
Speaker 3: You could go watch Old School Superman and could tell
Speaker 3: that this was clearly a movie.
Speaker 2: Right. You watch Old Batman with fucking Adam West. Okay.
Speaker 2: The penguin is not supposed to be a real guy. Okay.
Speaker 3: Poison Ivy is not supposed to be a real woman. Okay,
Speaker 3: even though they were live action. It's a different thing.
Speaker 3: It's clearly made for kids to be in that fantasy
Speaker 3: realm for the sake of a movie. But then one
Speaker 3: thing leads to another, it gets a little more realistic.
Speaker 3: The villains that they're fighting are no longer this evil villain.
Speaker 3: Right now, they're fighting a Islamic terrorist. Right now, they're
Speaker 3: fighting the Mandarin and they're fighting real agencies and possible
Speaker 3: things that in a child's mind they could see as
Speaker 3: a real threat, so that twenty years in the future
Speaker 3: they're seeing it as a completely different conversation.
Speaker 1: Well, and you know what's even more popular as we
Speaker 1: come into you know, just the evolution of all of
Speaker 1: this is that the people are starting to, you know,
Speaker 1: like kind of side with the bad guys now. And
Speaker 1: that's why, like all these anti heroes are starting to
Speaker 1: become more popular, such as the Punisher or Dead Poll
Speaker 1: and even Wolverine is a bit of an anti hero,
Speaker 1: and so those have become like people's favorite characters. And
Speaker 1: now now you're not, you know, looking up to the
Speaker 1: just and almighty Superman or Captain America or these very
Speaker 1: vanilla type of characters. You're looking up to the ones
Speaker 1: that you know, they're gonna they're gonna murder, they're gonna kill,
Speaker 1: they're gonna backhand, they're gonna deceive in all these things
Speaker 1: just to get to whatever they're trying to get to, right,
Speaker 1: And it's like, yep, you see how it's all starting
Speaker 1: to unfold. They eventually want you to become murderous. They
Speaker 1: want you to become you know, uh, basically cogs in
Speaker 1: the system that can get caught up in that kind
Speaker 1: of way. And yeah, it's just crazy the amount of manipulation,
Speaker 1: Like it's all dude. It's then like this is like
Speaker 1: what I always say. It's like if it wasn't so evil,
Speaker 1: would be genius, you know, like it's both.
Speaker 2: It's both two things can be correct at the same time.
Speaker 1: Right right. So anyhow, wrapping up all the different legs
Speaker 1: of this octopus, each tentacle is potent on its own,
Speaker 1: but together they form a biopsychosocial machine that encircles humanity.
Speaker 1: Danny believed that only by seeing all eight could we
Speaker 1: comprehend the true size of this monster. It's not a
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory is if every limb is verifiable. So now
Speaker 1: we're going to get into the global web of Promise,
Speaker 1: MASAD and aispionage. So to understand the full reach of
Speaker 1: the octopus, we need to follow the software Promise from
Speaker 1: its creation to its theft to its global distribution. This
Speaker 1: was never just about legal databases or digital convenience. Promise
Speaker 1: became became a weapon of international espionage, and its trail leaves.
Speaker 1: Its trail reveals a shadow network that blends intelligent agencies,
Speaker 1: rogue operatives, private corporations, and possibly even the first AI
Speaker 1: surveillance experiment ever deployed nationwide. It all started with this
Speaker 1: guy named Ed Mess who was Reagan's close advisor and
Speaker 1: then Attorney General. Mees, along with associates d Lowell Jensen
Speaker 1: and Earl Bryan, reportedly orchestrated a scheme to steal Promise
Speaker 1: from its creator In's Law Incorporated, led by Bill Hamilton.
Speaker 1: Once it was stolen, the software was modified with a trapdoor,
Speaker 1: a secret access point that allowed US intelligence agencies to
Speaker 1: spy on any system using it. This backdoored version was
Speaker 1: quietly distributed to federal agencies, then leaked to foreign governments.
Speaker 1: The software was supposed to streamline legal data management and
Speaker 1: became the digital equivalent of a spy satellite. Embedded directly
Speaker 1: inside enemy systems. So think about John McAfee handing out
Speaker 1: all of those computers with the McAfee anti virus, you know,
Speaker 1: on to the the the Clintons, right, Yeah, And because
Speaker 1: the Clintons were really trying to fuck him over, so
Speaker 1: he was like, you know what, you know, let's let
Speaker 1: bygones be bygones, and I'm gonna give you all this technology,
Speaker 1: and this is how we're going to you know, kind
Speaker 1: of get on the same page. Meanwhile, he's he's tracking
Speaker 1: every single word that they're typing on their computer. It
Speaker 1: was a backdoor system using his anti virus thing and
Speaker 1: was able to track everything. But think about that on
Speaker 1: a mass scale. And that's essentially what Promise was or
Speaker 1: it is. And this happened under Reagan, which makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1: Hollywood guy from back in the day. He's absolutely in
Speaker 1: the click with his VP George H. W.
Speaker 2: Bush.
Speaker 3: Bush Rather that was former head of the CIA, right
Speaker 3: who later became president after him. And then you're telling
Speaker 3: me that it was their attorney general and their three
Speaker 3: letter agencies that robbed this computer systm some made some
Speaker 3: changes and ran it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, this actually makes perfect sense to me.
Speaker 1: So One of the first foreign actors to get their
Speaker 1: hands on this modified version was Israel's Massad. According to Hamilton,
Speaker 1: who was the guy that created Inn's Law, which was
Speaker 1: created which created Promise, which was eventually stolen. So, according
Speaker 1: to Hamilton and Inslaw's late attorney Elliott Richardson, the infamous
Speaker 1: MASSAD operative Raffie Ayton, who had who had captured Adolph Eichman,
Speaker 1: posed as an Israeli prosecutor to gain access to Promise.
Speaker 1: Massad didn't just take the software, They allegedly modified it
Speaker 1: again for their own purposes. The next step was genius
Speaker 1: level espionage. They needed a front man to distribute it
Speaker 1: globally without distribution or without suspicion. You want to guess
Speaker 1: who that who? That guy was the the guy that
Speaker 1: was the frontman that was going to distribute it globally
Speaker 1: without suspicion.
Speaker 2: I have a weird feeling Bill Gates.
Speaker 1: Oddly enough worse? Oh no, Robert Maxwell. Wow. Enter Robert
Speaker 1: fucking Maxwell, the British media tycoon, former World War II
Speaker 1: resistance fighter, and father of none other than Jisleine Maxwell.
Speaker 1: With his publishing empire and diplomatic connections, Maxwell had the
Speaker 1: perfect cover to make promise as a legitimate tool government
Speaker 1: to governments worldwide. He sold it to Canada, Arab states,
Speaker 1: and even South American nations, all while unknowingly seating MASAD
Speaker 1: and CIA access to their most sensitive national systems. But
Speaker 1: like Caslero, Maxwell died under bizarre circumstances in late nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety one, just months after Danny Castilaro's death, Maxwell fell
Speaker 1: from his yacht and drowned. No witnesses, no clear explanation.
Speaker 1: Was it a coincidence, Was it a systematic cleanup of
Speaker 1: those who knew too much? Nobody knows and just yeah,
Speaker 1: that all works.
Speaker 3: Speaking of Maxwell, you you see that she is getting
Speaker 3: ready to talk, right, don't be shocked, good cult members,
Speaker 3: if in the next week or two, jizaying giz Layne.
Speaker 2: However, what the fuck her name is?
Speaker 3: Maxwell, old old, big titty wrangler of the underaged girls
Speaker 3: for Epstein, don't be shocked if she also ends up
Speaker 3: dead here in the next few weeks. She saw her
Speaker 3: actually on a like on the prison phone on camera,
Speaker 3: and she is about ready to talk.
Speaker 2: So we'll see how that goes. Yeah, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe the security guards then maybe they take
Speaker 1: some sleeping pills, or maybe the cameras decided to cut
Speaker 1: out and maybe they'll give us the footage even of
Speaker 1: her killing herself. But we're gonna take away a minute
Speaker 1: and eleven seconds of that, you know, the most important
Speaker 1: part of the of the entire video. We're just gonna
Speaker 1: cut it out. Amazing how they kept the time stamp
Speaker 1: on that whole, on that whole situation with Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 1: to show you that literally a minute and eleven seconds
Speaker 1: or whatever it is was missing. Why would they leave
Speaker 1: that on there?
Speaker 3: Also interesting that they said there was no videos, the
Speaker 3: cameras had malfunctioned and all of that for years, and
Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, magically they have the footage.
Speaker 2: It's crazy how that works out, right.
Speaker 1: Uh Yeah. So, meanwhile, Promise was undergoing silent evolution after
Speaker 1: Maxwell died. It wasn't just about spying. It was being
Speaker 1: enhanced with artificial intelligence. The CIA, the NSA, and even
Speaker 1: FBI were working through ge Aerospace later acquired by Lockheed Martin,
Speaker 1: to build predictive features into the software so it could
Speaker 1: learn track behavior and anticipate actions. This was all done
Speaker 1: with the help from Los Alamos Sandia labs and academic
Speaker 1: powerhouses like Caltech, Harvard, and the University of California. This
Speaker 1: means that Promise might have became the first true surveillance
Speaker 1: ai an intelligence gathering organism em betty globally with a
Speaker 1: with the capacity to observe, adapt, and perhaps even influence outcomes.
Speaker 1: You could argue that Promise was the embryo of what
Speaker 1: would later become systems like pallanteer Prism and even the
Speaker 1: rumored Sentient World simulation.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, yeah, sentient World simulation. Oh boy, yeah buddy.
Speaker 3: This whoo man, what a what a tentacle of hydra here?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah baby. And it wasn't just Republicans. The article
Speaker 1: points out that the that both political parties because I
Speaker 1: kind of wrangled a bunch of articles here together and
Speaker 1: kind of put them all together. But it points out
Speaker 1: that both political parties had blood on their hands. The
Speaker 1: octopus isn't a partisan beast, It's a post national machine. Democrat, Republican, Israeli, British,
Speaker 1: doesn't fucking matter. The real loyalty is to data dominance
Speaker 1: and global control. And if the allegations are true, Promise
Speaker 1: was even used by Jonathan Pollard, the American intelligence analyst
Speaker 1: convicted of spying for Israel. Pollard allegedly used promise to
Speaker 1: track embassy operations in Washington, d C. Feeding Masad to
Speaker 1: a feeding massad, a live stream of geopolitical secrets. What
Speaker 1: began as a legal database system became the central nervous
Speaker 1: system of the octopus, tangled in surveillance, espionage, AI development,
Speaker 1: and a trail of deaths left behind.
Speaker 2: So I could absolutely agree with this.
Speaker 1: It's crazy how even we have never heard of this
Speaker 1: up until now. That's how secretive all of this shit
Speaker 1: has been. And actually there was even a recently there
Speaker 1: was a Netflix documentary made on this. Really yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like a four part series, but in everything from everything
Speaker 1: that I heard it was actually I didn't watch it,
Speaker 1: but everything that I heard it actually did a really
Speaker 1: good job at covering most of the things. They left
Speaker 1: out as some you know, some of the key pieces,
Speaker 1: but it leaves room for the imagination to you know,
Speaker 1: kind of piece pieces together.
Speaker 3: They're actually making a documentary right now about how bitcoin
Speaker 3: is actually a complete ciaop, like start to finish, not
Speaker 3: shocked through and through the guy who created it. If
Speaker 3: you look at what his name means in Japanese. It's
Speaker 3: literally it's a region of Central China and ur Japan
Speaker 3: excuse me, and uh intelligence and like wisdom, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: a bit on the nose, but that might that could
Speaker 3: be any number of things. In October, they're releasing a
Speaker 3: documentary all about it, right, and so we look at
Speaker 3: the way our world is shifting with yeah, you could
Speaker 3: say ai, okay, yes, fine, but like we're talking about,
Speaker 3: this goes back to Reagan, which bled into Bush, which
Speaker 3: bled into Clinton. All of them were using this same system.
Speaker 3: All of them were using the same technology. They all
Speaker 3: had the same moussade plugs, the same CIA plugs. They
Speaker 3: still use the underbelly of society for their purposes.
Speaker 2: That's what we're saying.
Speaker 3: It's not a it's not a partisan thing, the same
Speaker 3: way that APEC is not a partisan thing. I was
Speaker 3: just having a conversation about this as a matter of fact,
Speaker 3: over the weekend that fishing trip I went on, and
Speaker 3: I was talking to my dad and my uncles and
Speaker 3: all this about the ties between America and Israel. They
Speaker 3: had never heard of APEX and I'm like, it's that
Speaker 3: makes sense of most Americans don't know how DC operates.
Speaker 3: They don't know the crews and the clubs that make
Speaker 3: things happen.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: You might hear of a committee that somebody's got together,
Speaker 3: the Energy Committee, the Water Committee, the Military Committee, whatever whatever.
Speaker 3: I understand that the names I just listened are not
Speaker 3: actual names of committees.
Speaker 2: I'm giving examples.
Speaker 3: But my point is, then when you find out what
Speaker 3: APEC is, and then you find out that it's very bipartisan,
Speaker 3: doesn't matter if you're a new politician, an old politician,
Speaker 3: whatever new guy comes to DC, Republican, Democrat, independent, Green, libertarian, doesn't.
Speaker 2: Matter, doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: First term Delly Malone, they'll feel him out and see
Speaker 3: what he's about. Second term, he'll start getting approached. They'll
Speaker 3: start getting tapped on the shoulder from time to time.
Speaker 3: Third term he's almost guaranteed to be a member of APEX,
Speaker 3: and then fourth term he's got dual citizenship.
Speaker 2: It's how this goes.
Speaker 3: People don't want to acknowledge that to be a true statement,
Speaker 3: but the research is there.
Speaker 2: They do not care.
Speaker 3: The way they see it, it's two wings of the
Speaker 3: same bird, and they don't mean that in a metaphorical sense.
Speaker 3: They mean that a bird can't fly with one wing.
Speaker 3: You need both wings to make the bird fly. And
Speaker 3: if you want that bird to fly in a direction
Speaker 3: that you wanted to fly in, then you better have
Speaker 3: control over both wings.
Speaker 2: You catch them adrift.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, I mean. And that's the thing is
Speaker 1: that it is. It is completely controlled. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: who's running the show. Now. These are just the fucking
Speaker 1: puppets that are making it look like it's being orchestrated
Speaker 1: by them. And that's the thing. Like even with Trump,
Speaker 1: like people thought, oh man, he's gonna be the man
Speaker 1: to change the entire system. And yeah, he's doing some things.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not against the plan. That's the thing. Like,
Speaker 1: all of this is according to plan. Don't think that
Speaker 1: he's some kind of you know, encroacher or somebody who's
Speaker 1: actually against the system. No, not against the system. Maybe
Speaker 1: it seemed like that for the longest time, but no,
Speaker 1: this was all part of the plan all along.
Speaker 3: And even further that point. It's bipartisan, y'all. It doesn't
Speaker 3: matter if it's a Republican in office, a Democrat in office,
Speaker 3: the most conservative Republican or the most liberal Democrat, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Cut back to Nixon.
Speaker 3: Nixon who was a staunch Republican, had his plumbers, aka
Speaker 3: his dudes that were finding leaks in his network.
Speaker 2: They were CIA people. Enter Watergate, right yep, cut to JFK.
Speaker 3: Johnson, both of these hardcore Democrats, you with me right now.
Speaker 3: And they also had their CIA that were doing very
Speaker 3: underhanded things. Enter the Gulf of Tonkin incident. Enter Operation Northwoods,
Speaker 3: where they were about to attack American cities on Florida's
Speaker 3: coast with dudes dressed like they were Cuban soldiers. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter, It doesn't fucking matter. Republican, Democrat, independent,
Speaker 3: new head, old headed, it's all. They're all have or
Speaker 3: using the same tactics. They're using the same outposts. It's
Speaker 3: the same CIA, it's the same FBI. Yeah, the director
Speaker 3: might change, but that director changes as often as the
Speaker 3: president changes. The director of the CIA is not the
Speaker 3: dude in charge of the CIA. He's like the figurehead,
Speaker 3: who's somebody that could point the finger at the guy
Speaker 3: who's going to go on TV with the microphones and
Speaker 3: say here's what they're doing. He's not the dude that's
Speaker 3: been working for the CIA for twenty five years and
Speaker 3: has been there, done.
Speaker 1: That right, right, these are just props. That's it exactly,
Speaker 1: So all right, we're gonna move on. So this goes
Speaker 1: from Maxwell to Epstein and the tentacles Titan a little
Speaker 1: bit here. So if Robert Maxwell was the tentacle that
Speaker 1: spread Promise software globally, then his daughter Ghislaine Maxwell or
Speaker 1: Gislaine as we like to call her on this show,
Speaker 1: became one of the key nodes in the next evolution
Speaker 1: of the octopus, sexual blackmail and elite compromise. Robert Maxwell's
Speaker 1: role in distributing Promise was no small task. He worked
Speaker 1: closely with Massad, had deep ties to British intelligence, and
Speaker 1: used his media empire as both as both cover and leverage.
Speaker 1: His sudden death in nineteen ninety one came just months
Speaker 1: after Danny Castilero's end quote suicide, suggesting he knew too
Speaker 1: much or at hot or had outlived his usefulness could
Speaker 1: be either one. After his death, his daughter Gizlaine inherited
Speaker 1: not just his fortune, but allegedly his connections. Then, of
Speaker 1: course you enter Jeffrey Epstein, the financier, the convicted sex offender,
Speaker 1: an alleged handler of a global elite blackmail operation. His
Speaker 1: entire network mirrors the structure of the octopus wealthy financiers,
Speaker 1: intelligence operatives, and protected assets embedded in media, academia, and politics.
Speaker 1: But instead of software, Epstein used underage girls, private islands,
Speaker 1: hidden cameras, and honeytrap operations to compromise the most powerful
Speaker 1: people on earth.
Speaker 2: Let's be real.
Speaker 1: Epstein was connected to fucking everyone. Bill Clinton multiple trips,
Speaker 1: had a fucking whole painting above his fireplace in his
Speaker 1: living room, Bill Clinton in a blue dress and red
Speaker 1: high heels, just sitting there, all scandalous. May as well
Speaker 1: have been Marilyn Monroe at that point, right, absolutely, Prince
Speaker 1: Andrew caught red handed. There's the former Israeli Prime Minister
Speaker 1: Ahod Barack, there's Les Wexner, who we always bring up,
Speaker 1: the billionaire in likely Epstein's money source. And then, of course,
Speaker 1: let's not forget why all this information is probably never
Speaker 1: going to come out. Donald Trump, who once said Epstein
Speaker 1: likes them young, ain't none wrong with that. And despite
Speaker 1: all of this, the media and government both insist that
Speaker 1: there's nothing to see. So the official narrative is that
Speaker 1: Epstein killed himself, and according to the FBI, the DOJ,
Speaker 1: and even Trump's own cabinet officials, Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide
Speaker 1: even though both cameras malfunctioned, both guards fell asleep. Epstein
Speaker 1: supposedly hung himself with bed sheets from a low bunk bed,
Speaker 1: and the injuries were more consistent with manual strangulation. Yet
Speaker 1: William Barr or Billiam Barr, Trump's Attorney General, the same
Speaker 1: bar whose father hired Epstein at the Dalton School without
Speaker 1: a degree, and came out and declared it was just
Speaker 1: a series of unfortunate events. Then in twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: and twenty five, the FBI doubled down, stating definitively that
Speaker 1: there was no conspiracy and no evidence that Epstein was murdered.
Speaker 1: That's despite mountains of public doubt, thousands of sealed court documents,
Speaker 1: and Ghislaine Maxwell refusing to name names.
Speaker 2: So let's be honest.
Speaker 1: This is the octopus in action, use intelligence backed blackmail
Speaker 1: operations to compromise the elite, erase the people who knew
Speaker 1: too much, control the media narrative, and let the next
Speaker 1: head of the hydra emerge untouched. And there are parallels
Speaker 1: that you can't even ignore about this whole thing. Robert
Speaker 1: Maxwell distributes promise software to spy on governments. Ghislaine Maxwell
Speaker 1: facilitates Epstein WEAPONI sex trafficking to blackmail elites. Both operations
Speaker 1: involved masad CIA and High Level Protection. Both ended with
Speaker 1: suspicious deaths, and both covered up government agencies, claiming that
Speaker 1: there's nothing to see here. So the octopus didn't die.
Speaker 1: It just keeps on adapting.
Speaker 3: Absolutely right, dude, And I mean, especially this, I'm glad
Speaker 3: you brought this episode, especially at this time when these
Speaker 3: things are going down. Yes, over the weekend, dude, I
Speaker 3: had a couple of people ask me, like, you know,
Speaker 3: Cash Mattel and Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi, they're all
Speaker 3: talking about resigning. There's a real possibility they're gonna they're
Speaker 3: gonna resign because they just can't hand to all this
Speaker 3: bullshit that they're getting hit with and this, this and this,
Speaker 3: And I'm like, all right, let's just get one thing straight.
Speaker 3: Either A they lied to us a month ago, or
Speaker 3: B they're about to lie to us, because if any
Speaker 3: of them were to resign and then come forward with
Speaker 3: the truth, we can't trust it now because they lied
Speaker 3: to us for the past month.
Speaker 2: Or they're about to lie to us. Now one of
Speaker 2: the two, and at that point you can't call heads
Speaker 2: or tails of it. So fuck them all right, number one,
Speaker 2: Number two, These people are not going any.
Speaker 3: Goddamn where as long as they play ball the right way,
Speaker 3: which it seems like they're doing very beautifully, I might add.
Speaker 3: And the only way that they're going to lose their
Speaker 3: jobs is if Trump fires them, which he is.
Speaker 2: One to do.
Speaker 3: His whole first term in office. He fired people left
Speaker 3: right and center that didn't play ball his way. One
Speaker 3: of them, as a matter of fact, was General James
Speaker 3: Maddis aka mad Dog. He fired him for me in
Speaker 3: Secretary of Defense because he didn't want to do war
Speaker 3: the way that Trump was trying to do war.
Speaker 2: He said, no, this is stupid.
Speaker 3: You're you're trying to cause where there shouldn't be any caused.
Speaker 2: And you're talking about a guy who is about some war.
Speaker 2: He's down for the cause, he's down to snap some
Speaker 2: necks and then cash some checks. And he was saying, no,
Speaker 2: this is fucking stupid.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, if you're not gonna play the way
Speaker 3: I want to play, James, I guess you're fired. Fine,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go do a modeling gig. And marry a
Speaker 3: ginger that's a doctor and go do gangster shit.
Speaker 2: And that's what he's doing. Now. Praise be to James Madison. Anyway,
Speaker 2: beside the.
Speaker 3: Point his name, blessings upon his name, patron state of
Speaker 3: Chaos aka Chaos actual. But my point is that it's
Speaker 3: not they have to play ball the right way or
Speaker 3: they'll get fired. And in this particular case, the stakes
Speaker 3: are really high.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna get fired.
Speaker 3: They're gonna get Epstein's, they're gonna get Clintons, they're gonna
Speaker 3: get possibly what could become a new phrase trumped right there,
Speaker 3: if they were to resign and or get fired and
Speaker 3: then come out with truth about what's going on right now,
Speaker 3: they would be foregone conclusions.
Speaker 2: And let's not even get it into the fact that Cash.
Speaker 3: Patel's girlfriend is allegedly an Israeli asset. Now I don't
Speaker 3: know this to be a fact. Okay, I do know
Speaker 3: that she was. She's like twenty six, he's like forty three.
Speaker 3: Nothing weird there, right.
Speaker 1: Full on dime piece too she is.
Speaker 2: She's also the CEO of Prager you.
Speaker 3: So I'm not saying because I don't know her personally,
Speaker 3: I haven't done an extensive background checking to her or
Speaker 3: anything like that. But also it's not crazy to find
Speaker 3: these connections and us being conspiracy conspiracy theorists as we
Speaker 3: are right having a conspiratorial mind about it. Third eye
Speaker 3: all the way open and all that, it's not crazy
Speaker 3: for us to draw these comparisons and say, huh, well,
Speaker 3: isn't that just a weird coincidence that these things just
Speaker 3: happen to line out this way?
Speaker 1: Oh dude? The same thing with Trump's wife, you know, like,
Speaker 1: I think that she absolutely could be a Russian asset.
Speaker 3: Possibly, I'm not gonna say for sure, because I want
Speaker 3: to say, isn't she from like Uzbekistan or is she
Speaker 3: from Russia. I know that she's from somewhere that used
Speaker 3: to be former Soviet Union.
Speaker 1: I know there's an official narrative saying that she's from
Speaker 1: maybe another place. But if you do more research into her,
Speaker 1: you see how she could possibly be like a Russian
Speaker 1: fucking princess or a Russian queen or some crazy shit.
Speaker 2: I could see it.
Speaker 3: At the same time, I think that she is probably
Speaker 3: a victim of sex trafficking from her earlier days.
Speaker 2: I think that's how she got to America. I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think that's how she got to America. I think
Speaker 3: that's why she was in the Playboy spread the whole
Speaker 3: nine with that, And I think that that is why
Speaker 3: Trump took such a hard stance against the trafficking conversation
Speaker 3: when he was in office for the first go round,
Speaker 3: because his wife, of course, not on camera, she would
Speaker 3: never admit to this, but you can look at some
Speaker 3: time frames and some places where she was, and it
Speaker 3: stands to reason that she might been trafficked to the
Speaker 3: US for that purpose before she got with dony T.
Speaker 3: I don't know that, and I'm not saying that dony
Speaker 3: T bought her. No, I'm not gonna make that claim.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that he didn't.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not. I don't know this.
Speaker 3: But you could also find a few comparisons to make
Speaker 3: here to say that this might be why she has
Speaker 3: such an opinion on child sex trafficking and things like that.
Speaker 1: Right right, So so yeah, I mean it's it's pretty
Speaker 1: fucking deep. And just to get back to Epstein. So
Speaker 1: the Epstein operation wasn't a new crime. It was an
Speaker 1: upgrade of the octopus from software based uh software based
Speaker 1: surveillance to behavioral and sexual blackmail networks. It's the same
Speaker 1: power structure, same immunity, same protected ring, but now it
Speaker 1: operates in a post truth world where the lie can
Speaker 1: be louder than the truth. The greatest trick the octopus
Speaker 1: ever pulled was convincing the world that it doesn't exist,
Speaker 1: almost like the devil.
Speaker 2: You know, we've heard that a few times.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so, whether it's Promise in your computer or Epstein
Speaker 1: in your headlines, the tentacles are still there, controlling, watching
Speaker 1: and rewriting reality in real time. So now we're going
Speaker 1: to get to Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, and the final tentacle. Look,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to believe that Trump was all part
Speaker 1: of this.
Speaker 2: We fought.
Speaker 1: We said, there's absolutely no way, whether you went all
Speaker 1: the way to the extreme right and you said Trump
Speaker 1: was a white hat, but we tried to keep a
Speaker 1: ten toes down over here. He's never been a good guy,
Speaker 1: that's not I mean, he's done good things, but he's
Speaker 1: sure you know, the I mean, the scales of justice
Speaker 1: might have something to say about that.
Speaker 2: Two things can be correct at the same time.
Speaker 3: He can be a very successful businessman and also a
Speaker 3: piece of shit human at the exact same time, Right,
Speaker 3: It's okay, we can acknowledge that. Now that being said,
Speaker 3: I'm still not convinced one hundred percent that Trump was
Speaker 3: like involved in the Epstein things and he went to
Speaker 3: the island and all these things. But I'm also not
Speaker 3: saying that there's no chance of that. I'm we're still
Speaker 3: in that grey area time period. But either way you
Speaker 3: want to slice it, he knew what was going on
Speaker 3: for sure, so I would say he was complicit in
Speaker 3: it at the very least, he was complicit.
Speaker 1: And he didn't start to separate himself until all the
Speaker 1: shit about Epstein started to really start to hit headlines. Now,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein was convicted of all of this weird shit
Speaker 1: a little bit here and there, even throughout the nineties,
Speaker 1: which is whenever Trump started to separate himself from it.
Speaker 1: Not because he just didn't want to be associated with
Speaker 1: that terrible guy, but he didn't want that attached to
Speaker 1: his name. There's a very big difference there. So at
Speaker 1: this point in the story, the octopus has touched everything
Speaker 1: intelligence agencies, AI blackmail networks, political dynasties, and even mainstream narratives.
Speaker 1: So if the creature still exists, then who is letting
Speaker 1: it survive? Unfortunately, let's talk about Donald J. Trump. Despite
Speaker 1: years of saying that he would drain the swamp, Trump
Speaker 1: has repeatedly deflected or outright shut down conversations about Epstein,
Speaker 1: Giselaine Maxwell, and elite child trafficking networks. When asked in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty if he thought Epstein was murdered, Trump said
Speaker 1: I don't know, and then bizarrely wished just laying, well,
Speaker 1: you remember that wis true out the woman who alleged
Speaker 1: who allegedly recruited and groomed miners for Epstein's elite clients,
Speaker 1: a strange sentiment for a so called enemy of the
Speaker 1: deep state, And when pressed later by reporters and investigators,
Speaker 1: even after Epstein's death in Maxwell's arrest, Trump has either
Speaker 1: changed the subject, claimed to ignorance, or gaslight the entire
Speaker 1: conversation by suggesting.
Speaker 2: That there's no story there.
Speaker 1: So the question becomes why, And this is what I
Speaker 1: believe that there's only two logical possibilities. So let's be honest.
Speaker 1: If Donald Trump is innocent, if he had truly no
Speaker 1: part in Epstein's operation, and he's not being blackmailed, then
Speaker 1: why not blow the fucking lid off of it all.
Speaker 1: Why not name names? Why not use his platform to
Speaker 1: expose what he claims to hate. There are really only
Speaker 1: two possible explanations left on the t Possibility number one,
Speaker 1: he's not innocent. Trump was on the flight logs Trump
Speaker 1: hosted Epstein at mar A Lago. He once famously said,
Speaker 1: I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a
Speaker 1: lot of fun to be with. It is even said
Speaker 1: that he likes beautiful women as much as I do,
Speaker 1: and many of them are on the younger side. Interesting
Speaker 1: that that quote would be said to a camera. Okay,
Speaker 1: and now he later claimed he banned Epstein from his
Speaker 1: club after a falling out. But that could have been
Speaker 1: a turf war, not a moral standard or a moral
Speaker 1: stand to stand on. If Trump had any involvement in
Speaker 1: what was happening at Epstein Island, or even knew about
Speaker 1: it and said nothing, then his silence makes sense. He
Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk about it because he's implicated, period
Speaker 1: and a fucking story. Then there's possibility number two. He's
Speaker 1: complicit through blackmail. If he didn't participate, then the only
Speaker 1: other reason Trump wouldn't touch the Epstein situation is that
Speaker 1: he it's because he is being blackmailed. That's how the
Speaker 1: octopus was promise watched you, Epstein recorded you. The data
Speaker 1: is stored, the leverage is preserved, and the tentacles know
Speaker 1: exactly how to squeeze. Maybe Trump was compromised during his
Speaker 1: modeling pageant days, which I didn't know that he was into,
Speaker 1: but I guess it goes.
Speaker 3: He ran pageants. That's when the whole grab him by
Speaker 3: the pussy conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe it's financial,
Speaker 1: maybe it's something darker. Either way, he's not calling the
Speaker 1: shots anymore, not when it comes to this. And if Trump,
Speaker 1: arguably the most untouchable populist in modern politics, is still
Speaker 1: bound by the octopus, then that tells us the truth
Speaker 1: that nobody is immune.
Speaker 2: Yep, there's no lyrics.
Speaker 1: Going to direct the system. The system's too big. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's literally gotten his tentacles around every single thing.
Speaker 2: So you said this too.
Speaker 3: As far as draining the swamp goes, you understand that
Speaker 3: releasing the list would drain the swamp instantly. These people
Speaker 3: would instantly be arrested. There is a lot of politicians
Speaker 3: a lot of fortune five hundred CEOs, a lot of
Speaker 3: political figures, a lot of name it, name your top
Speaker 3: dog of whatever. There would be a lot of them
Speaker 3: that would be gone. I would argue over half of
Speaker 3: DC would be in jail. Not the people, not the citizens,
Speaker 3: I mean the people in DC that.
Speaker 2: We're referring to.
Speaker 3: We talk about they right, just so we're clear, And
Speaker 3: that would be a draining of the swamp instantly done.
Speaker 3: But of course that was more of those campaign promises,
Speaker 3: you know, things that you say to get elected and
Speaker 3: then when you get elected at Snow big deals the
Speaker 3: same way he says, uh, we're not gonna have new wars,
Speaker 3: but we're gonna fund the wars, right, and.
Speaker 2: We're gonna reduce the national debt and we're gonna increase
Speaker 2: it by three point three trillion, and we're.
Speaker 3: Gonna get We're gonna get after the whole Epstein thing.
Speaker 2: And it's also like just completely gone by the wayside.
Speaker 2: And the illegals.
Speaker 3: We're not gonna go after the illegals that are working.
Speaker 3: We're going after the criminals first, and then we're gonna
Speaker 3: go find people at work that are legals and we're
Speaker 3: gonna arrest them first, and it's just it's campaign promises
Speaker 3: versus reality.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I remember one of his main talking points
Speaker 1: is that it's so easy to end these wars.
Speaker 2: It's so easy.
Speaker 1: On day one, in my first week, the war between
Speaker 1: Ukraine and Russia will be dismantled. You'll see how easy
Speaker 1: it is. Here we are six seven months in and
Speaker 1: that fucking thing's still going.
Speaker 2: I will say he tried getting them to come to
Speaker 2: the table.
Speaker 3: He had struck a deal with Zelenski, right he was,
Speaker 3: he was gonna make a mineral deal happen, and we're
Speaker 3: gonna set up shop in a mining situation, one of
Speaker 3: those sites that we were going to use for the
Speaker 3: mines Russia has now taken. Right, he was trying to
Speaker 3: strike a deal before they pushed any further, so that
Speaker 3: it could end the war peacefully and gracefully. Russia didn't
Speaker 3: want to come to the table. I'm just gonna say
Speaker 3: that he has done what he has tried the tariff
Speaker 3: war against China, right he is. He has made moves
Speaker 3: happen to try to impose his will in in the shit,
Speaker 3: and unfortunately people around the world are not really wanting
Speaker 3: to play ball.
Speaker 2: The dining sea way.
Speaker 1: Right, But isn't that what the octopus would have you
Speaker 1: believe that somebody's trying to fight for you. There's always
Speaker 1: a way, there's always a way a negotiation, a deal
Speaker 1: can always be struck. But just to say, well I tried,
Speaker 1: is that not the same thing that that is? Like,
Speaker 1: that's kind of narcissists mentality if you really think about that.
Speaker 1: You know, I tried, you know, I tried working it out.
Speaker 1: I tried talking to him that it's not my fault.
Speaker 1: So now it's no longer his fault, it's everybody else's fault.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I see that too.
Speaker 3: I Mean that's the thing though, when you're getting with
Speaker 3: somebody who believes that that entire country should be a
Speaker 3: part of Russia, there's only so much that they're willing
Speaker 3: to give and concede. Right, It's I could see both
Speaker 3: sides of the argument, But yes, to your point, the
Speaker 3: octopus would have you believe that he did everything he could,
Speaker 3: when that's not exactly true. Everything he could would be
Speaker 3: us launching our own military to the Ukrainian front, but
Speaker 3: nobody wants that either. I don't want that Like that
Speaker 3: that would be really, really dumb. It's just it's it's messy.
Speaker 3: There's no good guys to be found, y'all. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: It was his words. I'm gonna end it week one.
Speaker 1: I'm going to end it. It's not I might try
Speaker 1: to end it. I'm gonna do everything I can to
Speaker 1: end it. It's no, I'm going to very definitive.
Speaker 3: He could have if he would have said, all right,
Speaker 3: I'm in office now, I'm gonna need three marine battalions
Speaker 3: to go to Ukraine right now.
Speaker 2: I guarantee Putin would have backed off. But then he
Speaker 2: would have gotten backlashed on the other side for people saying, well,
Speaker 2: why are we going.
Speaker 3: To in deploying troops when you said no new wars.
Speaker 3: But but but it's it's the same Iran, the same thing.
Speaker 3: People are acting like we just went to war with
Speaker 3: Iran because we dropped bombs in three strategic locations.
Speaker 2: That's not what happened. That is not the case.
Speaker 3: Fuck Clinton dropped bombs in Iraq at one point ended
Speaker 3: up blowing up like a tailand off factory or something
Speaker 3: that he thought was something else. People praised him for it.
Speaker 3: It's it's no matter what you do, there's going to
Speaker 3: be someone to talk shit about it, and I don't
Speaker 3: know he's it's messy.
Speaker 1: My point is, and this is not me coming after
Speaker 1: Trump or flipping on Trump. It's not that I'm full
Speaker 1: on Democrat or any of that bullshit. Now, it's that
Speaker 1: the mark of I believe, uh, an intelligent person is
Speaker 1: to be able to look at things as a whole
Speaker 1: without looking through a specific lens. And I'm looking at
Speaker 1: it now in the sense that politics, like insurance, is
Speaker 1: evil and there is no good guys, there's nobody that's
Speaker 1: there to help you. So stop stop with your fucking
Speaker 1: flags of parroting who your favorite president is. Whether it
Speaker 1: was the dumbasses that had, you know, Barack Obama yard
Speaker 1: signs in their yard. Uh, yes, we can. Well, no
Speaker 1: you didn't, Okay, no, you fucking didn't. You never did anything,
Speaker 1: You never had any intentions to do anything. The same
Speaker 1: thing with Trump. We're gonna build a wall, Mexico's gonna
Speaker 1: pay for it. Meanwhile, all coming out of our own
Speaker 1: tax dollars. Right, So all of it is just shenanigans
Speaker 1: and bullshit, every single part politics.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: We should not be championing anybody in politics ever.
Speaker 3: I agree, say just like you said, the insurance companies,
Speaker 3: there is no actual insurance company rep that has your
Speaker 3: best interest at heart. I'm sorry they don't on a
Speaker 3: personal level, the person you're on the phone with, if
Speaker 3: you were to talk to them one on one outside
Speaker 3: of work, sure, sure they'd be great.
Speaker 2: That is not what happens when they clock in.
Speaker 3: Insurance companies are evil and they are out for your
Speaker 3: money period. Casinos are out for your money period, and
Speaker 3: politicians are out for your money period.
Speaker 2: Is a fact. There's no good guys.
Speaker 3: There's no savior about what we'll ride in on a
Speaker 3: white horse to save the day.
Speaker 2: That's not happening. This is the real world, is it
Speaker 2: in TV?
Speaker 1: Exactly? There's no good and no evil. It's just don't
Speaker 1: trust it. That's the way that it should be like.
Speaker 1: And I want everybody to keep that same energy whenever
Speaker 1: you are holding Biden accountable, when you were holding Hillary
Speaker 1: Clinton accountable, when you were holding fucking Obama accountable, George
Speaker 1: Bush accountable for all these things, keep that same energy
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is another one of them. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: I mean, think what you want, believe what you want.
Speaker 1: You know, like beliefs are you know, all belief is
Speaker 1: is just a lack of evidence, right, that's all it is.
Speaker 1: You don't know shit, all right. These people don't care
Speaker 1: about you. They're they're coming off of after all your information.
Speaker 1: They're coming after your health, they're trying to come after
Speaker 1: your kids. They're trying to poison the water, they're trying
Speaker 1: to poison the skies. The food is not nourishing at all.
Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, even the shit that
Speaker 1: they say is organic isn't. Okay, so let's stop fucking
Speaker 1: fucking around over here like they're all evil, they're all bad,
Speaker 1: and so you need to call a spade a spade.
Speaker 1: And that's all I'm trying to do here. That being said,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get back to promise at least where it
Speaker 1: all started. Now, it all started with ins Law Incorporated
Speaker 1: I N s l A W Incorporated. Believe it or not.
Speaker 2: It was a Washington, D c.
Speaker 1: Based information technology company that markets case case management software
Speaker 1: for corporate and government users. That's what it was originally
Speaker 1: intended for.
Speaker 3: Okay, they dc it company for legal reasons.
Speaker 2: Already off to a great start, bro.
Speaker 1: They you know, and these things evolve, you know, And
Speaker 1: so ins Law is known for developing Promise, an early
Speaker 1: case management software system. It is also known for a
Speaker 1: lawsuit that brought against the United States Department of Justice
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty six over Promise, alleging that the Justice
Speaker 1: Department had dishonestly conspired to drive Inslaw out of business
Speaker 1: through trickery, fraud, and deceit by withholding payments to islaw
Speaker 1: and then pirrating the software. So it's not like what
Speaker 1: your boy was trying to say whenever he was trying
Speaker 1: to blow the whistle. He was trying to be an actual,
Speaker 1: real investigative journalist. It's all been confirmed now, it's all
Speaker 1: been confirmed. So yeah, the they're withholding payments to ins
Speaker 1: law the government was, and then pirting the software to
Speaker 1: create its own backdoor version of it and then giving
Speaker 1: it over to Robert Maxwell, bringing it into all these
Speaker 1: other countries and so that they can infiltrate and collect
Speaker 1: all the data and information they need in order to
Speaker 1: savail the world. Essentially, so ins Law won damages in
Speaker 1: bankrupt court, but these were overturned on appeal. The suit
Speaker 1: resulted in several Justice Department internal reviews, to congressional investigations,
Speaker 1: the appointment of a special Council by eternity by Attorney
Speaker 1: General William Barr, and a lengthy review of the Special
Speaker 1: Council's report under Attorney General Janet Reno. Inslaw's claims were
Speaker 1: finally referred by Congress to the Court of Federal Claims
Speaker 1: in ninety five, and the dispute ended with the courts
Speaker 1: ruling against In's Law in nineteen ninety eight. During the
Speaker 1: twelve year long legal proceedings, ins Law accused the Department
Speaker 1: of Justice of conspire hiring to steal its software, attempting
Speaker 1: to drive it into Chapter seven liquidation, using the stolen
Speaker 1: software for covert intelligence operations against foreign governments, and involvement
Speaker 1: in a murder. Which murder that was your boy right.
Speaker 1: These accusations were eventually rejected by the Special Council and
Speaker 1: the Court of Federal Claims. So okay, yeah, then you
Speaker 1: have the development of PROMISE, which was a creation of Inslaw.
Speaker 1: So PROMISE remember, Prosecutors Management Information System was a case
Speaker 1: management software developed by Inslaw. The software program was developed
Speaker 1: with aid from Law Enforcement Assistance Administration to aid prosecutors
Speaker 1: offices in tracking cases. PROMISE software was originally written in
Speaker 1: cobal Cobol for use on mainframe computers. Later reversion was
Speaker 1: developed to run on a sixteen bit mini computer such
Speaker 1: as the Digital Equipment Corporation PDP DASH eleven whatever. That is.
Speaker 1: The primary users of this early version of the software
Speaker 1: where the United States Attorney's Office of the District of
Speaker 1: Columbia and the state and local law enforcement both the
Speaker 1: mainframe and the sixteen bit Many computer versions of Promise
Speaker 1: were developed under l EAA contracts and later and in
Speaker 1: later litigation, both ins law and DOJ eventually agreed that
Speaker 1: the early version of Promise was in the public domain,
Speaker 1: meaning that neither the institute nor its successor had exclusive
Speaker 1: rights to it. That's how they were able to fuck
Speaker 1: people over and steal it and not pay for it
Speaker 1: and push and force ins law into bankruptcy essentially. Right,
Speaker 1: So then it gets a little bit, I mean, it
Speaker 1: gets crazy, dude. We're not going to read all of
Speaker 1: it because it's a long It was carried out over
Speaker 1: twelve years this league case here.
Speaker 3: A lot of things can happen in DC and twelve years,
Speaker 3: y'all we're talking.
Speaker 2: That's the link of three administrations.
Speaker 1: Real shit, Yeah, yeah, essentially, And so there was just
Speaker 1: a lot of wild shit that was going on there.
Speaker 1: There was appeals in the bankruptcy suit. Judge Basin was
Speaker 1: not reappointed. Adversary proceeding. You know how it got into
Speaker 1: the hands of even our adversaries and everything like that. So, dude,
Speaker 1: it's deep. It is so deep. And now and even
Speaker 1: Wired wrote wrote an article about it. We're not gonna
Speaker 1: read the whole thing, but.
Speaker 2: It's a solid website. Yeah, so yeah, and we can
Speaker 2: start pretty much wherever we can.
Speaker 1: I guess we can read the first part of it.
Speaker 1: So it says who Bill Hamilton and his wife Nancy
Speaker 1: Hamilton started In's Law to nurture Promise. Why Number one
Speaker 1: the DOJ, aware that its case management system is in
Speaker 1: dire need of automation funds, is Law and Promise. That's
Speaker 1: that government contracting right there. Right after creating a public
Speaker 1: domain version, ins Law makes significant enhancements to Promise, and
Speaker 1: aware that the leg us market for legal automation is
Speaker 1: worth three billion dollars, it decides to go private in
Speaker 1: the early eighties. Why number two, designed as case management
Speaker 1: software for federal prosecutors, Promise has the ability to combine
Speaker 1: disparate databases and to track people by their involvement with
Speaker 1: the legal system. Hamilton and others now claimed that the
Speaker 1: DOJ has modified promise to monitor intelligence operations, agents and
Speaker 1: targets instead of legal cases, decide to turn it on
Speaker 1: its head and use it for the worst possible application.
Speaker 3: So the it website that was created for legal applications,
Speaker 3: they then immediately tried to use not for legal applications.
Speaker 2: I'm crazy bro oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And by late November of nineteen ninety two, the nation
Speaker 1: had turned its attention from the election weary capital to
Speaker 1: Little Rock, Arkansas, where a new generation of leaders. That's
Speaker 1: a fun way. What was what else was going on
Speaker 1: in Arkansas in the nineties. You know, if anybody want.
Speaker 3: To take a gain which governor from the state of
Speaker 3: Arkansas later became a president, and you want to watch
Speaker 3: all of the insane criminal activities going in and out
Speaker 3: of Arkansas. You want to go Barry Seal, You want
Speaker 3: to go rice farming and how that connects to Haiti.
Speaker 2: We are, in fact talking about the Clintons.
Speaker 1: That's where it all started. But in a small Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. Office, Bill Hamilton, president and founder of Inslaw Incorporated,
Speaker 1: and Dean Merrill, former ins Law Vice President, were still
Speaker 1: very much concerned about the past. The two men studied
Speaker 1: six photographs laid out before them. Have you ever seen
Speaker 1: any of these men? Merrill asked Or Merrill was asked
Speaker 1: immediately he singled out the second photo in a separate lineup,
Speaker 1: and Hamilton's secretary singled out the same photo. Both said
Speaker 1: that the man had visited inns Law in February of
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three for a presentation of Promise, inns Law's
Speaker 1: bread and butter legal software. Hamilton, who knew the purpose
Speaker 1: of the lineup, identified the visitor as doctor Ben Orr.
Speaker 1: At the time of his visit, Or claimed to be
Speaker 1: a public prosecutor from Israel. Or was impressed with the
Speaker 1: power of Promise, which had recently been updated by ens
Speaker 1: Law to run on a powerful thirty two bit VAX
Speaker 1: computers from a digital equipment corp. He fell in love
Speaker 1: with the VAX version, Hamilton recalled, So this is already
Speaker 1: an Israeli like infiltrator at this point, right.
Speaker 3: Well, he's an Israeli medical doctor, right yeah, So it's
Speaker 3: it doesn't necessarily mean Israeli infiltration, but I have a
Speaker 3: feeling that that's the direction that this is about to go.
Speaker 2: Brother one hundred percent. But I mean, who's to say.
Speaker 3: Maybe this doctor was out there just trying to do
Speaker 3: medical things. Like I said, I have a feeling this
Speaker 3: conversation is about to go that direction.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: So doctor Orr never came back and he never bought anything.
Speaker 1: No one knew why at the time, but for Hamilton,
Speaker 1: who has fought the Department of Justice for almost ten
Speaker 1: years in an effort to salvage his business, once his
Speaker 1: co workers wreck recognized the man in the second photo,
Speaker 1: it all made perfect sense. For the second photo was
Speaker 1: not of the mysterious doctor Orr. It was Raphael Eaton,
Speaker 1: chief of the Israelis of the Israeli Defense Forces Anti
Speaker 1: Terrorism Intelligence Unit.
Speaker 2: And here we go.
Speaker 1: The Department of Justice sent him over to look at
Speaker 1: the poverty or at the property that they were about
Speaker 1: to misappropriate, and Eaton liked what he saw. The Department
Speaker 1: of Justice documents record or record that one doctor Ben
Speaker 1: Orr left the DOJ on May six, nineteen eighty three
Speaker 1: with a computer tape containing promise tucked under his arm,
Speaker 1: snagged it right from him, didn't pay for anything, lied
Speaker 1: about who his name was, who he actually was, what
Speaker 1: he was there to represent. Of course, because if you're
Speaker 1: going in as a spy. Essentially right, you're gonna lie
Speaker 1: about it, so what. For the past decade has been
Speaker 1: known as the ins Law Affair, began to unravel in
Speaker 1: the final shredded happy days of the Bush administration. According
Speaker 1: to the federal court documents, Promise was stolen from ins
Speaker 1: Law by the Department of Justice directly after Eton's nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty three visit to Inslaw. A later congressional investigation preferred
Speaker 1: to use the word misappropriated. It just stolen, but we're
Speaker 1: gonna call it misappropriated, and according to sworn affidavits, Promise
Speaker 1: was then given or sold at a profit to Israel
Speaker 1: and as many as eighty other countries by doctor Earl Bryan,
Speaker 1: a man with close personal and business ties to then
Speaker 1: President Ronald Reagan and then Presidential Council Edwin MEAs. A
Speaker 1: House Judiciary Committee report released last September found evidence raising
Speaker 1: serious concerns that high officials at the Department of Justice
Speaker 1: executed a premeditated plan to destroy Inslaw and co opt
Speaker 1: the rights to its Promise software. The committee's call for
Speaker 1: an independent council have fallen on deaf years, of course,
Speaker 1: and one journalist, Danny Casillaro died as he attempted to
Speaker 1: tell the story, and boxes of documents relating to the
Speaker 1: case have been destroyed, stolen or conveniently in quotes lost
Speaker 1: by the Department of Justice.
Speaker 2: Absolutely bro unabsolute.
Speaker 1: Unreal so. But so far not a single person has
Speaker 1: been held accountable. Wired has spent the last has spent
Speaker 1: two years searching for the answers to the questions in's
Speaker 1: law poses. Why would justice steal promise? Did it then
Speaker 1: cover up the theft? Did it let associates of government
Speaker 1: officials sell promise to foreign governments, which then use the
Speaker 1: software to track political dissidents instead of legal cases. Israel
Speaker 1: has reportedly used promise to track troublesome Palestinians to this day.
Speaker 1: Shocker still going on the abs and the implications continue
Speaker 1: that Mees profited from the sales of the stolen property,
Speaker 1: that Brian Mesa's business associate may have been involved in
Speaker 1: the October surprise, The often debunked but persistent theory that
Speaker 1: the Reagan campaign conspired to ensure that the US hostages
Speaker 1: in Iran were held until after Reagan won the nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty election, that some of the money is derived from
Speaker 1: the illegal sales of Promise further furthered, covert and illegal
Speaker 1: government programs in Nicaragua that Oliver talking about. Oliver North
Speaker 1: used Promise as a population tracking instrument for his White
Speaker 1: House based domestic emergency management program, And each new set
Speaker 1: of allegations leads to a new set of possibilities, which
Speaker 1: makes the story still more difficult to comprehend.
Speaker 2: But one truth is obvious.
Speaker 1: What the inslaw case presents, in its broadest possible implications,
Speaker 1: is a painfully clear snapshot of how the Justice Department
Speaker 1: operated during the Reagan Bush years. This is the case
Speaker 1: that won't go away, the case that shows how justice
Speaker 1: and perfect in public service gave a way to profit
Speaker 1: and political expediency. How those within the administration circle of
Speaker 1: privilege were allowed to violate private profit, private propit pretty
Speaker 1: and civil rights for their own profit. Sounds like a
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist dream, right, absolutely, But the fact is is
Speaker 1: that it's true. So then they get into all of
Speaker 1: the wildness, dude, and all of the connections to Robert
Speaker 1: Maxwell and Epstein Island Dude, It's all there, and so
Speaker 1: absolutely it's pretty fucking wild, dude.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but again, it.
Speaker 3: Doesn't shock me that Reagan was the one implemented with
Speaker 3: this again.
Speaker 2: Look at who his VP was, look At who the head.
Speaker 3: Of the CIA was under his time, look at who
Speaker 3: his Department of Justice was being ran by at the time.
Speaker 3: I know everybody, at least a certain generation feels like
Speaker 3: Reagan was.
Speaker 2: Like the best president ever.
Speaker 3: But as more things come to light and as time
Speaker 3: goes on and even more history gets revealed, it's not
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he was a bad president, not saying
Speaker 3: he was a great president either.
Speaker 2: He was. He did things that he thought was the
Speaker 2: right thing to do.
Speaker 3: I would even argue that it's very remnant of what
Speaker 3: Trump is doing, honestly for sure.
Speaker 1: And it's just the illusion that somebody is fighting for you.
Speaker 1: That's all it is. And you know, whether it is
Speaker 1: left or it is right, you're always going to have
Speaker 1: half the country, at least half the country on your side.
Speaker 1: And that's the genius of the dichotomy of duality within politics,
Speaker 1: is that no matter what, you're going to have your blues,
Speaker 1: no matter who's and your red till them dead's they're
Speaker 1: always going to exist. And maybe that's going to be changing,
Speaker 1: you know, with Epstein's third Political or not Epstein, Elon's
Speaker 1: third political party, the American Patriot Party, whatever the fuck.
Speaker 1: But even at that point, I would suggest that that's
Speaker 1: even going to be worse because of Elon's in control
Speaker 1: of it, the literal fucking head of AI. You think
Speaker 1: that's going to make a difference, or you think it's
Speaker 1: going to muddy the water a little bit more, Oh, bro.
Speaker 3: I could see if that party gains traction, and I
Speaker 3: don't mean gains tracks. And like the Independent Party, which
Speaker 3: that's been a party for a while and it's never
Speaker 3: gone anywhere. Right, You have a few people that have
Speaker 3: an eye by their name in DC, but it is
Speaker 3: a very very small group. The Libertarian Party had a
Speaker 3: shot and then they started eating their own selves alive,
Speaker 3: and now it's a whole other issue. If this party
Speaker 3: gets any kind of real weight behind it, I could
Speaker 3: envision a world where once Trump is done with this
Speaker 3: term of office, he creates a maga party where he
Speaker 3: will duyse endorse candidates that he wants ie mostly as children,
Speaker 3: and we might have a four way runoff for actual
Speaker 3: elected officials here moving forward. But it's only going to
Speaker 3: be at the federal level. There's no way that any
Speaker 3: of these parties are actually going to.
Speaker 2: Take root at the grassroots level on a state level.
Speaker 2: And so that's the problem.
Speaker 3: It's it's like the system is so built and brick
Speaker 3: and concrete founded that to try to shake that system up,
Speaker 3: it doesn't just take money. It takes changing public perception.
Speaker 3: It takes a culture shift. And I'm not saying that
Speaker 3: it's impossible for that to happen. I'm saying that that
Speaker 3: would be a very very difficult role for somebody to
Speaker 3: try to really spearhead.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's too big. It's too big. There's too
Speaker 1: much control, there's too much power, there's too much everything
Speaker 1: that you could possibly imagine. The system was meant to
Speaker 1: it was built to survive no matter who came into office,
Speaker 1: no matter who decided to go rogue. JFK tried to
Speaker 1: go rogue, Donald Trump trick on rogue, other presidents of
Speaker 1: trigone rogue, and they've either been assassinated or tried to
Speaker 1: be assassinated. So yeah, we do have I have one
Speaker 1: final message to the good cult members out there. If
Speaker 1: you're wondering why no one in power will touch this,
Speaker 1: if you're wondering why the media won't ask why Maxwell
Speaker 1: won't name names, while why FBI reports are redacted, and
Speaker 1: why Trump, of all people, stays quiet. This is why,
Speaker 1: because the octopus isn't just alive, it's feeding. And whether
Speaker 1: Trump is a predator or the prey, one thing is certain.
Speaker 1: The tentacle has him, and if they can get to him,
Speaker 1: they can get to anyone. They told us that there
Speaker 1: was nothing to see, that Epstein acted alone, the giselain
Speaker 1: Maxwell was just a pawn that promised was a glitch,
Speaker 1: and Danny Castillara was depressed. They told us the cameras failed.
Speaker 1: They told us that the guards were tired, that Robert
Speaker 1: Maxwell fell, and that Jeffrey Epstein tied a perfect noose
Speaker 1: from paper sheets. But every lie told tightens the grip,
Speaker 1: and every truth hidden feeds the machine. Donald Trump loud
Speaker 1: on everything, but silence, silence on the one thing that
Speaker 1: could literally burn it all down. Maybe he was on
Speaker 1: the plane, maybe he was on the island, or maybe
Speaker 1: he's just another puppet whose strings are pulled from the shadows.
Speaker 1: Because if even the boldest man in politics can't break
Speaker 1: the silence, then what does that tell you about the
Speaker 1: power that holds him. The octopus doesn't care who you
Speaker 1: vote for. It doesn't care what you believe. It only
Speaker 1: cares that you don't look up and that you don't
Speaker 1: ask questions, because once you start pulling on the tentacle,
Speaker 1: you realize it's wrapped around everything. This is how global
Speaker 1: control operates. This is why you shouldn't put faith in
Speaker 1: any president, because even if they seem like they're gonna
Speaker 1: make a change, the octopus binds everyone, no exceptions. And
Speaker 1: now you know too much.
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, dude. And it's not just I know they
Speaker 3: always say it's the power and it's the money. Yes,
Speaker 3: those are two very big things as far as this
Speaker 3: particular hydra is concerned. But it's more than that. It
Speaker 3: is it is for actual control and dominance. And I've
Speaker 3: even had conversations with people that you can lay all
Speaker 3: this out for them clear as day, and they will.
Speaker 2: Still say, well, then what's the point, Like what are
Speaker 2: we supposed to do or what is their goal?
Speaker 3: They just want us to be slaves, And it's like
Speaker 3: that's an oversimplification, but okay, they they just.
Speaker 2: Want more of our tax dollars.
Speaker 3: It's like, again, that's kind of an over simplification, but
Speaker 3: that too. They it's not about like they don't have
Speaker 3: just one clear, concise goal that they're after. It's so
Speaker 3: many intricate goals that are all woven together for an
Speaker 3: overarching thing. That overarching thing changes depending on which leg
Speaker 3: of the tentacles of the octopus you're asking, Right, they
Speaker 3: all have their jobs to perform.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing. It's that the point of
Speaker 1: all of this is is to stop identifying yourself with
Speaker 1: a political party, Stop identifying yourself as Republican, as Democrat,
Speaker 1: because that's exactly what the octopus wants from you. It
Speaker 1: wants you to identify because if you identify, it doesn't
Speaker 1: need to bind around you. You are swimming within the
Speaker 1: suction cup of the fucking tentacle itself on purpose. You know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't need to choke.
Speaker 3: You out right, It doesn't make It doesn't need to
Speaker 3: make you feel like you're a tribalist in nature if
Speaker 3: you already are allowed, I'm proud about which tribe you claim, and.
Speaker 2: That means that they can use that against you.
Speaker 3: They can make conflict happen, and not just wars, I
Speaker 3: mean even on your Facebook, on your Instagram, getting into
Speaker 3: it with somebody in the comments section off of a meme.
Speaker 2: That's a part of it. It is trying to make
Speaker 2: it to where.
Speaker 3: It's us versus them, even though we are all American citizens.
Speaker 3: It's us and them. It's the haves and the have nots.
Speaker 3: It's the rich and the poorest, the reds versus the Blues.
Speaker 3: It's the Republicans versus Democrats. It's the pro war, anti war,
Speaker 3: pro vax anti vacks. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: All of these things are being used to manipulate you,
Speaker 3: good cult member listening right now.
Speaker 2: Yes, have your opinions, have your beliefs. Okay, stand true
Speaker 2: to your morals and to your own convictions one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: But you understand how many people right now are still
Speaker 2: suffering from Trump derangement syndrome on one side or the other,
Speaker 2: either a they hate everything he does because Trump did it,
Speaker 2: or be they love everything he did because Trump wrong.
Speaker 2: Right now, right now, as he is blowing all of
Speaker 2: this under the rug with the Epstein shit, people are realistically, Oh,
Speaker 2: if he says there was nothing to see there, then
Speaker 2: there really was nothing to see there. We don't need
Speaker 2: to look any further. That is its own form of
Speaker 2: Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 1: Or even like the glass half full kind of stuff. Well,
Speaker 1: he's just holding on to it. We know he's going
Speaker 1: to do something with it. We know he's going to
Speaker 1: use it to make a deal. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: at a certain point you need to start coming with
Speaker 1: that same mentality that you were trying to hold Biden accountable.
Speaker 1: You were trying to hold all these other presidents and
Speaker 1: all these senators and all these legislators. You were trying
Speaker 1: to hold them all accountable. But for some reason, you
Speaker 1: just have an unbelievable hope in somebody that you have
Speaker 1: never met, and they don't know your name, they don't
Speaker 1: care about you, and they look to gain the system.
Speaker 1: That's the truth of it. Nobody's on your side, nobody's
Speaker 1: on your team, nobody's fighting for you.
Speaker 2: Just remember, I hope we're wrong. I hope we're wrong.
Speaker 3: I hope so too, And that Trump really is holding
Speaker 3: onto this information and he's he's making a deal. Happen
Speaker 3: right now, right, there's a play afoot. It's always possible,
Speaker 3: but I'm I just don't see it as of this moment.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: It was the same thing that with the whole we're
Speaker 3: giving Ukraine more weapons and more this, and more this.
Speaker 3: Because he wanted to make the mineral deal happen, right,
Speaker 3: he had to give a little to get a little.
Speaker 3: The tariff war, we're putting China under one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty five percent tariffs because he wanted to actually get
Speaker 3: a forty five percent tariff, So he had to give
Speaker 3: a little to get a little.
Speaker 2: This whole thing, it's possible that all of what's going
Speaker 2: on right now, Cash Betel, Dan Bongino, Pambondi, Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: all of them are saying a certain thing right now
Speaker 2: in order to gain a response from people said they
Speaker 2: can come down with the hammer, and it's actually gonna
Speaker 2: play out this way. That's possible. I just don't see it, y'all.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 3: And it's not like we have any kind of insight
Speaker 3: into what goes on in the Oval office.
Speaker 2: It's not like we have a plug over there that's actually.
Speaker 3: Feeding us you know what's really going on. No, okay,
Speaker 3: we're making our own speculations. We're conspiracy theorists, that's what
Speaker 3: we do. And looking at all the cards that are
Speaker 3: currently on the table, I don't see that happening. I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: you just.
Speaker 1: Gotta look at if you're really trying to figure out
Speaker 1: somebody's motive and what somebody's gonna plan to do in
Speaker 1: the future, you just look at the fruit of how
Speaker 1: they've handled past situations.
Speaker 2: That is all. Just the spirit can test the fruit, brother,
Speaker 2: one hundred percent with That's all you need to fucking know.
Speaker 2: He said he was gonna do this, and maybe he.
Speaker 1: Started to steer it in that direction, but nothing ever
Speaker 1: turned out the way that it was supposed to. Even
Speaker 1: Doge A lot of that is not going to hold
Speaker 1: up in court. That was a fucking dog and pony show.
Speaker 1: I hate to tell people that it maybe it shed
Speaker 1: a little bit of light as to you know, where
Speaker 1: the money was going and now we know and everything.
Speaker 2: Is it changing anything?
Speaker 3: Not really, not in the ways that we were hoping
Speaker 3: it would, right, And it's not just because Elon is
Speaker 3: no longer there. The Doge organization is still running. These
Speaker 3: computer nerds are still running their their programs to find
Speaker 3: where all the ways fraud in all these things are.
Speaker 2: Yes, what have you heard about that in the last
Speaker 2: two months?
Speaker 1: Honestly, and even Elon going rogue and he's divorcing Trump
Speaker 1: or whatever. I guarant fucking to you that was scripted.
Speaker 1: There's no way that it wasn't. This is all just
Speaker 1: future planning because once Trump gets out of office, give
Speaker 1: it another three and a half, you know, years, they
Speaker 1: have to have a plan set in place for the future.
Speaker 1: And if they know that the Republican parties fucked and
Speaker 1: obviously the Democrat parties fucked, well who after we blow
Speaker 1: the lid off of all this stuff, all the weird
Speaker 1: doge spending and everything else.
Speaker 2: Once we blow the lid off of it, they're gonna
Speaker 2: lose faith. The people of America.
Speaker 1: Are gonna lose faith into the into both wings of
Speaker 1: the bird. And this is where some people believe that
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the third wing. I'm actually looking at
Speaker 1: it like it's the fucking torso of the eagle. I
Speaker 1: think that that's actually what's really gonna be happening.
Speaker 3: You know, sadly, because Trump is taking this direction with things,
Speaker 3: not just with the Epstein shit, but also the immigration,
Speaker 3: with the money, with the wars, with all these things. Inadvertently,
Speaker 3: remember we talked about this, because the Democrats have no
Speaker 3: likable people that can be put up for election in
Speaker 3: three years, right like they was pretty much that might
Speaker 3: be the last time a Democrat had any chance in
Speaker 3: hell of actually getting elected, because all Donnie t had
Speaker 3: to do was just stand by his word and do
Speaker 3: what he said he was going to do, which he
Speaker 3: did his first term in office.
Speaker 2: Right currently, there's.
Speaker 3: A shift happening in Washington where more of these Democrats
Speaker 3: that have been far left extremist, screaming heads are actually
Speaker 3: becoming more centrist, and they're actually getting seen in a
Speaker 3: different light because what Trump's doing is so far off
Speaker 3: the reservation that they don't even have to do anything,
Speaker 3: and people are starting to look at the Democrat Party like,
Speaker 3: maybe you're not so crazy. Right, So, unless Trump can
Speaker 3: get some shit together and pull back and make sense
Speaker 3: of all this with a quickness, he's actually giving the
Speaker 3: Democrats more of a footing, way more. They lost their
Speaker 3: footing with the Joe Biden and Kamala Harris thing. For
Speaker 3: four years they acted like a dead guy was actually
Speaker 3: really sharp and quick witted, and he's totally there, He's
Speaker 3: totally capable in all these things. Then they was an
Speaker 3: article twelve, article twenty five to whatever the case was,
Speaker 3: and Kamala, who no one liked, six months before she
Speaker 3: was put up on the ballot. People were clowning her.
Speaker 3: The Democrats were clowning her. Then out of nowhere, it's
Speaker 3: her time, it's her turn, all of that shit. All
Speaker 3: Trump had to do was stay the course, and he
Speaker 3: has gone so far off the reservation that people are
Speaker 3: actually starting to think like, maybe maybe the Republicans are
Speaker 3: the crazies. I mean, if he's the representative of all
Speaker 3: of them, maybe the Democrats kind of make more sense.
Speaker 3: And now the Democrats have stopped talking the wild shit.
Speaker 3: Now they're talking centrist shit. So he's if he doesn't
Speaker 3: change course or.
Speaker 2: At least make sense of his actions and what he's
Speaker 2: doing and let us in on the plan a little bit,
Speaker 2: or have some of these plans come through to fruition
Speaker 2: to where it's like, ah, that's why you did this,
Speaker 2: and that's why this played out, that whatever, he might
Speaker 2: fuck it up for the Republican Party moving forward. And
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. I think it's very possible.
Speaker 3: That we see a third or fourth party come out
Speaker 3: of this whole situation.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent, and even just speaking on that third party,
Speaker 1: just for example, because so did you know that there's
Speaker 1: actually three different evolutions just to get, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of weird in esoteric here. You know, there's three evolutions
Speaker 1: of the scorpion. So scorpio, right, Scorpio is said to
Speaker 1: be like the ground dweller, right, the one that's just
Speaker 1: crawling on its belly all the time. And then eventually
Speaker 1: what happens is is that there's a whole cundalini kind
Speaker 1: of awakening. It's the seed spiraling up the spine and everything.
Speaker 1: And I'm getting weirdly you know, symbolic and occultic here,
Speaker 1: but this is how I believe their minds operate. So
Speaker 1: the if whenever the scorpion starts to evolve and it
Speaker 1: has that condalini kind of spiraling upward, it's you know
Speaker 1: that's said to represent the snake, is the condalini, right,
Speaker 1: that's the the snake spiraling up the spine. And then
Speaker 1: so it evolves, So the scorpion evolves into a snake
Speaker 1: and that snake. Do you know what the final evolution
Speaker 1: of the scorpion to the snake, and it eventually evolves
Speaker 1: into like just the fucking eagle. That's what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say. It is composed of a snake and a scorpion.
Speaker 1: These people are not looking out for your best interest.
Speaker 1: And if you think about the the eagle, it's always
Speaker 1: known for its keen eye. If that's not surveillance and intelligence,
Speaker 1: I don't know what is right. So, just even symbolically
Speaker 1: here they I think that this was has been their
Speaker 1: plan all along. And so whether you think that that
Speaker 1: third political party is going to be the balancing tale
Speaker 1: you know, or you believe it's going to be the
Speaker 1: core torso of it or whatever, it's all fucking spilled with.
Speaker 1: It's filled with snakes and scorpions. That's all politicians are.
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