WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:04.000 Breaking down all the xys and ohs. This is I 2 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:10.320 on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box Sports fourteen fifty. 3 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:14.759 Hey, welcome back to I'm about hero Pox Sports fourteen fifty. 4 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:18.760 I'm Steve Rivera. You happen to be Blake Eager from. 5 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:20.960 A Southern Arizona sports tourism and film authority. 6 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:22.440 If you, guys, we have plenty of time to talk. 7 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:23.440 We're going to talk to. 8 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:30.160 Miss Schnell Lindsay Snell from the Athletic talking about her 9 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:33.280 conversations with Tommy Lloyd here a couple of weeks ago 10 00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:34.560 as they get ready for the Big twelve. 11 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:36.600 So I'm looking forward for that or to that. 12 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:38.600 Uh So, if you want to call or I'm not 13 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:40.880 doing any breaking news stuff and no big deal the 14 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:43.560 kids do that. Uh call us please five two o 15 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:47.200 four one forty wax poetic with us solve the world's 16 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:50.359 problems if you'd like, and then we'll talk to her 17 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:53.039 and then we'll take more calls. Uh So, Uh, you're 18 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:56.880 hoping that you just finished WC WBC. Uh it went 19 00:00:57.280 --> 00:01:00.280 fairly well, right, Uh, And I called this sometime. It's 20 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:03.159 you know Climber's remorse, right, You're going up you're going 21 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:05.120 up and you're halfway there and so, oh god is 22 00:01:05.159 --> 00:01:07.400 this tough. I'm not gonna ever gonna do this, And 23 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:09.120 then you get to the end you tink it. God, 24 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:10.159 I can't wait to do it again. 25 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:14.159 I mean, yeah, I don't know. I mean it's like 26 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:18.120 three weeks ago. Sarah Horvath, who's a director at Quino 27 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:21.200 Sports Complex, and I had a conversation like, Okay, if 28 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:23.239 they come here and they're like, hey, would you do 29 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:24.879 this again? And we were both like each other and 30 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:27.560 we were like, f no, there's absolutely no shot, right 31 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:31.200 because it's just it's so much. It's overwhelming the first 32 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:33.760 time out. You get to remember that was the first 33 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:36.239 large project that we had both that we'd all worked 34 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:39.640 on together. Hey, but you're working with It's not just 35 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:42.319 like you're not bringing just a random tournament here, right, 36 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:45.920 It's major League Baseball. It's putting on an Olympic event essentially. 37 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:49.719 That's how much involvement there was to that. But once 38 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:52.239 we were done and the reception that we had right 39 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:55.719 and the ability to show Tucson as a viable market 40 00:01:55.879 --> 00:02:00.680 in the world of professional baseball again internationally, I would 41 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:01.120 do it again. 42 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:03.239 So and you learned a lot, right, I'm sure you learned. 43 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:05.640 Have you had your post meetings. 44 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.000 We worked on a little bit today from an invoice 45 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:10.319 standpoint where we're at financially, and then next week we'll 46 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:11.159 have a full breakdown. 47 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:12.800 Yeah, and then you'll find out more this is okay, 48 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:14.319 next time we got to be better at this. Yeah 49 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:15.039 we did well at this. 50 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:15.400 Yeah. 51 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:17.960 YEAHA so you'll be better next time. Whether you get 52 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:20.240 that chance, yeah, I think we'll get that chance again. 53 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:22.319 I think we'll get that chance next year. And so 54 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:23.080 the big thing that we. 55 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:25.319 Talked about, and we were always talking about this morning 56 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:28.280 on the radio, is that this was and you've talked 57 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:30.879 about this, this was a you know, catalyst for other things, right, 58 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:33.520 and one of those things would be spring training baseball, 59 00:02:33.759 --> 00:02:37.400 you know. And it showed MLB Major League Baseball Players Association, 60 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:40.759 which is a union, right that Tucson ach not only 61 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:43.319 I mean can handle an event of this nature, but 62 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:47.520 it is. It's a it's an extremely well run and 63 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:48.479 a great facility. 64 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:50.759 So let me ask you. And it looked fantastic, right 65 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:53.479 I have been there forever. It looked amazing. Okay, I know, 66 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:55.960 I know, I'm want to get a biased opinion. I know, 67 00:02:56.479 --> 00:02:59.199 because we're all biased in our own way. But if Arizona, 68 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:03.120 if we're ever to get a team again, two teams, whatever, 69 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:04.680 will it work? 70 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:05.520 Could it work? 71 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:07.759 I Mean we had this convert You asked me this 72 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:10.080 question on Monday. Are we a sports town? 73 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:11.319 Ali? This morning? 74 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:14.479 I asked Alie and all He's like, we're absolutely sports town. 75 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:17.400 It works if we buy into it as a community. 76 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:19.039 Well we talked about Yeah. No, I get where you're 77 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:20.719 going with it now because we talk about that, right. 78 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:21.240 Yeah. 79 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:24.120 The thing is it's the buy in. It's the buy 80 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:25.800 in and what does that and what does that look like? 81 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:28.400 How do we change that culture totally? You know, we 82 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:30.960 we have this amazing place in the world and people 83 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:32.919 sleep on two soon all the time. Yeah, and I 84 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:34.639 get so sick of hearing it, especially when I go 85 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.479 through right. I mean, Phoenix looks at us like an 86 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:39.919 ugly step child, and that's fine, but they've helped us 87 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:43.000 out a lot. But from a culture standpoint, we I mean, 88 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:44.960 we have so many things to show off to the world. 89 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:48.240 We need to show up to these events. Yeah, right, 90 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:50.719 we need to show up to our proteins. It's not 91 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:53.680 just you of a men's basketball. It's it's everything that 92 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:55.680 we can if we can be successful and they're not 93 00:03:55.759 --> 00:03:58.479 asking for a sellout every time. If you could average 94 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:01.960 three thousand fans a game Summer League team and four thousand, 95 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:04.360 which is not a lot for a Winter League team, 96 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:07.199 that's success at a pretty good level. 97 00:04:07.479 --> 00:04:08.960 It's funny you say that. As you were saying this, 98 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:11.360 I was laughing because I posted something on Facebook Dottle 99 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:14.199 four five years ago. I was you got to stop 100 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:16.920 light right and the long line for the green to come, 101 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:18.879 and there's a guy on your right trying to get in, 102 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:21.519 trying to get in and waiting for you. So I 103 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:24.360 stopped one day and let him in, and he didn't 104 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:26.000 give me the way, thank you. He didn't do that. 105 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:27.879 But as he was leaving he had one of those 106 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:30.839 be kind snickers a stick or something. I said, if 107 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:33.720 you're gonna be that, do that. And that's kind of 108 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:36.519 what you're saying. If you want these things here, be 109 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:37.240 part of it. 110 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:38.800 I'll tell you so funny. 111 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:41.279 So I when I walk in my neighborhood, I always 112 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:43.240 I always try to wave at everybody's rise by right. 113 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:44.600 I want to try to be a good neighbor. And 114 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:47.720 every time they don't wave at me. I get so frustrated. 115 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:50.279 And it's like the same thing. So I take this 116 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:52.000 a lot like I take in politics, Like if you 117 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:54.360 didn't vote, I'm not gonna have a conversation about you 118 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:56.279 with politics, right, same thing with sports. If you don't 119 00:04:56.279 --> 00:04:58.160 attend a vent or go to a game, I don't 120 00:04:58.160 --> 00:04:59.199 have there's no conversation. 121 00:04:59.279 --> 00:04:59.480 Right. 122 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:02.319 You have to invested into that moment with that thought, Oh, 123 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:04.560 you called, Jim, just give us a quick call back. 124 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:06.680 I was ready to say hello, and there you are. 125 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:11.040 Hold on, hold on, hello, Jim, you're back. Who's this, Jim? 126 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:13.480 I hit the wrong stinking button. 127 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:15.000 Okay, you're back. 128 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:22.480 Yes, So your discussion about pro sports in Tucson, as 129 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:27.839 far as baseball goes and spring training more specifically, there's 130 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.800 a fly in your ointment there that I don't think 131 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:34.920 you can get out. It's probably a bird in your ointment, 132 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:41.360 and that is the travel time those players. You know, 133 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:45.600 when spring training shut down here it was I don't 134 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:51.519 know ten years ago or more fifteen fifteen. And they're 135 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:53.800 making a lot of money. They're not going to sit 136 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:55.839 on a bus for three hours a day to go 137 00:05:55.879 --> 00:06:00.680 to a game. They've got hectic schedules, it's like we do, 138 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:06.839 and those schedules don't allow for a bus ride or 139 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:10.800 even a car ride, even a plane ride to Tucson 140 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:16.160 on a daily basis. So that's going to be really 141 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:17.519 difficult to deal with. 142 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:20.439 I don't disagree with them, Yeah, I tell you, I mean, 143 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:23.360 I I think I can talk about this, right. So 144 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:25.680 Jim's right, we're the likelihood that we're going to get 145 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:28.519 a team to Tucson in that's part of the Cactus 146 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:31.759 League is probably slim at this point, even if the 147 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:35.639 expansion happens, not to say it never happened. So the 148 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:37.839 spring training model is not going to be a home 149 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:40.160 team here participating in Cactus League. It's going to have 150 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:43.360 to be probably two teams from the Mexican League here 151 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.040 in Tucson, and then you would have teams from Phoenix 152 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:48.000 come down, yes, for about six to eight games, and 153 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:50.839 those teams from Mexico to go back up. But yeah, 154 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:53.319 the travel time and where they're at proximity now with 155 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:56.680 Maricopa County, it works really well for them up there. 156 00:06:56.759 --> 00:06:59.600 But Gym's right, it's probably not gonna happen. Even though 157 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:01.800 if you look at the Great Foot League, you're traveling 158 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:03.600 three and a half hours, four hours sometimes. 159 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:04.639 To play games. 160 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:08.040 Yeah, I see, Blake, that that might that may be 161 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:12.800 viable if it's a you know, an occasional trip down 162 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:17.680 for something totally different. And and the idea of spring 163 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:21.839 training including the Mexican League teams, that's interesting, that'd be 164 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:22.560 fun to watch. 165 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:25.759 Yeah, well, hold on to that thought, because I've heard 166 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:26.439 a few things. 167 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:29.439 You know, not a play. I played in a game 168 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:31.560 in No Gallas. 169 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:33.399 One time that was. 170 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:35.800 Similar to that that. 171 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:40.199 It was nineteen ninety five or four, one of those 172 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:45.319 two when this Major League went on strike. And so 173 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:50.439 come August or early September, I think it was, they 174 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:54.000 called on our MSBL group to get a team together 175 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:58.199 to go down and play a Mexican team that had 176 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:05.199 several MLB players involved because they wanted to get reps 177 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:08.399 and they thought they were going to go back into 178 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:12.399 the season and you know, solved and closed down to 179 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:15.600 strike and start playing the game. And so I played 180 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:20.199 in the game like that, and uh, it was interesting 181 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:22.199 just from the standpoint of. 182 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:24.399 It is very unique. 183 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:27.680 You're never gonna see anything like probably like that again. 184 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:30.160 But we almost beat those guys. 185 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:34.039 So that's my two cent. And what a great memory 186 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:39.000 to have, right, Yeah, it was really fantastic. 187 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:40.600 I was standing out. 188 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:44.799 In center field for the first skinning and a half. 189 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:46.080 Just my mouth was open. 190 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:51.480 Those guys had grown men that were bat boys, that 191 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:56.519 doubled as clowns, and I just I couldn't believe what 192 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:57.200 I was seeing. 193 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:03.279 Jim, thanks for the call again here, Well you should. Yeah, 194 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:06.159 I know, we'll see what happens. I've been hearing things, 195 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:09.039 you know, on the outside. Gotta be patient. 196 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:11.639 Gotta be patient, Like I said, I mean, we've got 197 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:13.240 a lot of things move in the right direction in 198 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:14.639 a lot of different ways. And I know we talk 199 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:17.519 baseball a lot, but that it exceeds just baseball, and 200 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:20.039 we're you know, I wish I could scream it from 201 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:22.399 the mountaintops, but we're in. This is the first time 202 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:25.159 I've seen all a lot of people working coming together. 203 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:28.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah, well that's what you We'll pull the 204 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:30.919 rope on the same all the same direction. And I 205 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:34.879 think that's what Tucson finally has. Even I don't know 206 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:38.879 politically or whatever, but do you have more people like you, 207 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:42.399 tour and road runners and all these people all together 208 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:44.960 saying we need to be together to make all this happen. 209 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:47.000 I think you have a lot of people talking to 210 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:49.080 each other that you didn't for a long term, right, right, 211 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:51.480 So that's for whatever reason, for whatever reason it is, 212 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:54.879 and you can there's plenty of instant and instances that 213 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:56.360 we could probably point to, and there's some things that 214 00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:59.159 are probably wrong, but we point to them anyway. Uh, 215 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:01.639 it's it's it's it does feel like it does feel 216 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:04.320 like a change of the guard in a very positive setting. 217 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:06.960 And I say proactive a lot because as a Tucson 218 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:10.200 as a twoson, and I've always been known as a 219 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:12.480 reactive to all the situations that are happening. 220 00:10:12.639 --> 00:10:14.120 So let me let me ask you this. We got 221 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:17.960 about we have time times. So you're from here, you 222 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.799 grew up here, You've went all over the country, maybe 223 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:23.759 over the over the over, Yeah, I lived overseas. So 224 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:27.600 what why did you come back? Because I'm Tucson, I 225 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:30.840 love Tucson. I want a chance to change for the better. 226 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:32.639 Is that the purpose why you came back? 227 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:34.120 Really? Yeah? I think so. 228 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:36.120 I mean I asked myself that a lot of times 229 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:37.879 because I love some of the places. I loved living 230 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:39.919 in New York, I love living in Denver. I love 231 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:41.879 living Hawaii, but that would never be affordable. I love 232 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:47.639 living in Sweden. But I love Tucson. I love southern Arizona. 233 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:50.480 It made me who I was. And because what's because? 234 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:51.240 Because why do. 235 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:51.720 You love Tucson. 236 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:54.000 Because it's got soul, It's got a heart, like you 237 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:56.320 can stay connected to this city in so many different ways, 238 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:58.919 to this region so many whereas people care about each 239 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:01.159 other here, we need to take the chance to care 240 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:03.120 about them. Well, that's the reason why I stay here too. 241 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:05.279 I love this place. It's a big small town. 242 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:07.279 It's a it me bury, and it kind of is 243 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:12.120 it's everybody knows six degrees of separation. Yeah, what's Is 244 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:16.399 there a misconception or perceived wrong because you talked about 245 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.000 Phoenix having this is the bad little brother or step 246 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:23.399 brother is ugly, step brother bad? They helped us a ton. Yeah, yeah, 247 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:25.120 you know what I'm saying. It still thought that way. 248 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:27.000 It's you all get off me a little good. 249 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:29.799 I mean twoson in view Phoenix as this rivalry where 250 00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:31.840 Phoenix is like, we don't even know you exist, right, 251 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:35.399 We view La and Houston and Denver and and you know, 252 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:38.360 Dallas is our rivals where we're just like, no, we 253 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:40.399 hate you guys, and they're like, yeah, cool, okay whatever. 254 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:41.120 Yeah. 255 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:43.000 I just think that we if we ever get a 256 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:44.919 chance to step back and look at other places around 257 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:47.080 the country or even the world that are doing things correctly, 258 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:49.639 that we don't need to reinvent the wheel, and we go, Okay, 259 00:11:49.840 --> 00:11:52.039 what are they doing? Well, how how do we do 260 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:53.759 the same thing? Well, it's funny you say that, because 261 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:57.159 isn't that what Tommy saying? Getting it back to the 262 00:11:57.159 --> 00:11:58.919 stuff that we don't do. That's just trying to make 263 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:01.159 it better and see what you're doing. And there's no 264 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:04.480 there's no apocasty or whatever word that's not the right 265 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:09.200 word in in imitating what others do. I mean, that's 266 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:13.399 how I got to college. This is a live mike. 267 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:15.000 You know that. I don't care what are they going 268 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:18.720 to come back? Yeah? Yeah, I probably should say that. 269 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:21.519 No, you're absolutely right, And I think Tommy's just seeing 270 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:23.879 like you want a coach to be open and vulnerable 271 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:26.639 and honest with the community that he's representing, and because 272 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:28.080 you want him to feel like he's a part of 273 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:30.039 it so he doesn't leave. I think one thing we've 274 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:31.919 talked about in the past is that We don't want 275 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:34.360 Arizona to be a stepping stone for college coaches to 276 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:37.440 come here and then go on. You've got to create 277 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:39.440 a culture that they feel like this is their home. 278 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:42.120 Like we talked about John Miller. Sean Miller was great. 279 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:44.000 I never felt like he was a two son in No. 280 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:46.519 I always felt like he you know, sure, Tommy feels 281 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:47.279 like he's two. 282 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:50.480 So Tommy Tucson, Sean, Sean would know. Sean not that 283 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:52.720 he was looking for the next bus out, but he was, 284 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:54.200 you know, he said he knew the schedule. 285 00:12:54.279 --> 00:13:01.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was the one way trip. I'm 286 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:03.360 not taking that bus. But when the bus comes on 287 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:04.360 and jumping on that bus. 288 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:06.919 Yeah. Okay, let's take a break here to come back 289 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:08.200 with Lindsey. 290 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:13.519 Are you ready ready to discover your soul, your wild side, 291 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:19.320 your passion, your joy and excitement. 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