Speaker 1: That just gang yours. You gave him myself to the nation.
Speaker 2: Hold baby the.
Speaker 1: Name, be strong, your sobey you are. Want to be
Speaker 1: the best moneless and be the one acer always. Don't
Speaker 1: worry about me. I'm five, Ma, don't hurry about him.
Speaker 1: She got up me. That's why I love her. He's
Speaker 1: Andrew so easy lady. Single a single just puts a
Speaker 1: man of your head. And see you gotta be tell
Speaker 1: me I said be longer. Love me for saying gotta
Speaker 1: be off. No so such it's gonna ray.
Speaker 2: But baby can be made good. I made that just
Speaker 2: for you. Nico glitzaid that for reality quality. Man, that's dope. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what about it?
Speaker 3: Do you like?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Is?
Speaker 2: I know that's like a like a walk down memory lane,
Speaker 2: memory lane for you, right? And definitely you know I
Speaker 2: look back at the catalog, indeed, from from the past
Speaker 2: on into the future. Yeah, yeah, man. And and then
Speaker 2: the mix. The mix was dope for sure.
Speaker 3: And there's so many more hits though, bro, yeah, so
Speaker 3: many more could have been could have been a lot longer.
Speaker 2: Work to hit part two. He only gave me a minute.
Speaker 2: It's I was like, bro, I can't fit all these
Speaker 2: You made it work. Made it work, man, Yo, show
Speaker 2: Me is out now, you know, Neo show Me right,
Speaker 2: crazy single? I love it right? But what else does
Speaker 2: Neo need to see? Neil, You've seen it all man.
Speaker 3: You know what show me is, the metaphor of it
Speaker 3: is I was I was complaining, you know, is recently
Speaker 3: about the state of R and B and just the
Speaker 3: stuff that I miss from R and B. You know,
Speaker 3: everybody just got real tough all of a sudden in
Speaker 3: R and B, and it has never made any sense
Speaker 3: to me. An R and B thug has never made
Speaker 3: sense to me. I'm sorry, I just don't. So I decided,
Speaker 3: as opposed to complaining, I'm gonna just beat a change
Speaker 3: I want to see.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring back the romance.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring back the sensuality of it as opposed
Speaker 3: to the just just nastiness of it.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's one thing to be nasty, it's another thing to
Speaker 3: be sensual. Sure, I'm trying to trying to bring that back.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's one thing to just say it. It's another thing
Speaker 3: to find a poetic and interesting way to say it.
Speaker 3: Make us think, stimulate a mind as well as a body,
Speaker 3: that's that's what I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying to now. Listen, you've gone viral on the show,
Speaker 2: you know when you said, uh, you know with songs
Speaker 2: of bitching and women dancing to it, and you know
Speaker 2: it's kind of their fault too, you know what I
Speaker 2: mean that you know it is what it is? Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: what it is?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: But yo, like yeah, like, there's a lot of music
Speaker 2: out there that has just gotten very rawnchy, and it
Speaker 2: is what it is, you feel me and love No,
Speaker 2: doesn't really exist in a lot of music.
Speaker 3: That is the unfortunate true right now. And I'm trying
Speaker 3: to be again, I'm trying to be the change I
Speaker 3: want to see. You know, love is an energy, and
Speaker 3: it's an energy, and energy can't be destroyed. You know,
Speaker 3: it can be forgotten, but it can't be destroyed. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to trying to remind people that that love is
Speaker 3: one of the most powerful energies on the face of
Speaker 3: this planet, and that it is important and it needs
Speaker 3: to be incorporated in your everyday life, including your musical selection.
Speaker 2: Yeah right. And love is not just loving someone or something, right,
Speaker 2: You have to love yourself first. At first. We're programmed
Speaker 2: not to necessarily do that or wired. We're wired that way.
Speaker 2: The sad place we live, right It's a sad place
Speaker 2: we live right now.
Speaker 3: Everybody is is uh, this, this acceptance from strangers is
Speaker 3: just a weird thing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I have seven beautiful children, and yes, yes, man, My
Speaker 3: oldest is fourteen. My youngest just turned two about three
Speaker 3: days ago. And you know, it's just sad that they
Speaker 3: have to grow up in a time where everything is
Speaker 3: about clout and and and if you don't have this
Speaker 3: many followers and all that, and it's like like nobody
Speaker 3: is preaching about the importance of what it is to
Speaker 3: love you first.
Speaker 2: Like I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't give a damn how many mind. I love
Speaker 3: all my followers because they're real. I didn't buy them,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, They're real. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, if nobody followed me, I follow me. And
Speaker 3: that's the part, that's the part that needs to be
Speaker 3: that's the part that we need to put the spotlight on.
Speaker 2: You know, love you first.
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna love nobody the right way, and nobody's
Speaker 3: gonna love you the right way if you don't love
Speaker 3: you first. That's what it is.
Speaker 2: Seven children, You love your babies. Indeed, do you see
Speaker 2: talent there? Oh?
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, yeah, and listen, I was, I was totally
Speaker 3: prepared to be Hollywood dad, and like you know, Joe
Speaker 3: Jackson forced them into music.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I was prepared to be that dude. I don't have
Speaker 2: to They have it, they do.
Speaker 3: Everybody has perfect pitch, everybody writes, everybody sings on their own.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all on their own.
Speaker 3: They sit at the breakfast table and make songs about
Speaker 3: how they don't want to go to school and all
Speaker 3: all they long to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they make a song good enough that they don't
Speaker 4: want to go to school. Do you let them be?
Speaker 2: Like, like, that's dope, son, I finished the cheerios. Let's
Speaker 2: get out of there. I'll take that. I'll take that.
Speaker 3: I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2: You're gonna sing, You're gonna be the best. Indeed, Now, yeah,
Speaker 2: we kind of had that rule with Mike. I only
Speaker 2: have two kids, right, I'm way behind you. But but yeah,
Speaker 2: like yeah, with my kids, like, if it's funny, you're
Speaker 2: not in trouble. But we all got to be laughing,
Speaker 2: not just you. Indeed, you feel mean. I like that rule. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you can cuss at the house don't don't cuss
Speaker 2: in for any teachers, right right, right right? Your kids
Speaker 2: are singing, right do you help them or are you?
Speaker 2: Are you writing with the don't.
Speaker 3: Have to like like I thought that I was gonna have,
Speaker 3: you know, all right, all right son? You a little flat,
Speaker 3: you a little sharp? No, they all have perfect They
Speaker 3: sing better than I do, the better I had to
Speaker 3: work to get mine.
Speaker 2: They just they just have it. I'm a little jealous
Speaker 2: light way. You're not long stage? No, no, no, I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody is ready for stage yet.
Speaker 3: But you know, I I like the fact that that
Speaker 3: they gravitated to music on their own, because again, the
Speaker 3: importance of just for one music for me was like
Speaker 3: an outlet, you know what I mean. I grew up
Speaker 3: in a house full of women. I'm becoming a young man,
Speaker 3: and I ain't got nobody to bounce these emotions off
Speaker 3: of us. So I started just doing stupid stuff like
Speaker 3: you know, get in trouble and whatnot, and music, you know,
Speaker 3: for lack of a better way to save it, to say,
Speaker 3: it saved my life because without it, you know, if
Speaker 3: my mom didn't hand me that pad and say write
Speaker 3: it down, you know, I wouldn't be doing this, you know,
Speaker 3: y'a'll be talking to me through some glass or something.
Speaker 2: Wrong lock company. Yeah, man, might would have been it
Speaker 2: would have been another way. Yeah right. We we know
Speaker 2: right as fans, what you've been through and what you've
Speaker 2: gone through to get to this point. Right? Do your
Speaker 2: kids know? Just do they know what it takes? The
Speaker 2: apollo the groove? They are so low aware of every
Speaker 2: radio station working at McDonald's. Man, man, they're they're aware
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: But it's it's like, I mean, telling somebody about something
Speaker 3: and experiencing, and it's two totally different things. You know,
Speaker 3: none of my children will ever have to work in
Speaker 3: me Donald's, you know. So I could tell him what
Speaker 3: it was and they go, oh wow, that was cool.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, past the great pulpaond like they do.
Speaker 2: They don't, don't you in the way wants them to
Speaker 2: work at McDonald's, So they understand. I wouldn't mind.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I worked as hard as
Speaker 3: I did so that my kids wouldn't have to suffer
Speaker 3: the way that I did. You know what I mean,
Speaker 3: mind you, I understand that you know, there's a there's
Speaker 3: a slippery slope there because you don't want to raise,
Speaker 3: you know, little helliens that don't appreciate nothing. But at
Speaker 3: the same time, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna have
Speaker 3: them suffer the way that I did.
Speaker 2: Man and McDonald's. Were you at the fries? Were you
Speaker 2: at the burger? Actually got fired at the fries? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Man, well, I mean well I got fired and quit
Speaker 3: at the same time. The dude yelled at me on
Speaker 3: the fries, and I'm like, bro, listen, you ain't gonna
Speaker 3: yell at me. Take this little name tag, take this
Speaker 3: at him out. I worked there long enough to get
Speaker 3: two pay checks. Yeah, my man, before I quit, did
Speaker 3: you steal nuggets?
Speaker 2: I did. That's what Farrell used to do. Nuggets. If
Speaker 2: any of my friends came, they got free for all. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was that was It was a thing.
Speaker 3: How you work at a fast rest runt your friends
Speaker 3: can't get free for Come on, man, did you ever figure.
Speaker 5: Out what was wrong with the ice cream machines?
Speaker 1: No? Was it working?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 2: You never touched the ice cream machine?
Speaker 1: And no, no.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: When it comes to writing. You mentioned that you know,
Speaker 4: your mom put a notepad in front of you, and
Speaker 4: you're she was just like write this down. Do you
Speaker 4: still hold the value of writing things down or do
Speaker 4: you now use voice notes or do you put things
Speaker 4: on your phone.
Speaker 3: Now just for the sake of time and keeping things together?
Speaker 3: Is you know, I lose stuff, you know, so I
Speaker 3: write in my notes now. But there's definitely something to
Speaker 3: be said about putting pen to pad like this.
Speaker 2: If I'm in the.
Speaker 3: Studio and I know that I'm gonna beat it for
Speaker 3: a little while and ain't going nowhere, I'll get some
Speaker 3: paper and independ.
Speaker 2: And do it that way. There's something to that though, right,
Speaker 2: psychologically right, it's something.
Speaker 3: It's something I can't even explain what it is, but
Speaker 3: it's it's this versus this. It's a lot from what
Speaker 3: I understand writing it down gestures like we're not on.
Speaker 2: Radio, but yeah they can see okay, okay, cool.
Speaker 3: Cool writing it down versus doing it in the in
Speaker 3: the phone. It's it's there's a there's an organicness that that.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it just it just feels better.
Speaker 5: Well, some of people just punch in now, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean.
Speaker 2: They don't even write. They just I tried that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't do that.
Speaker 3: No, not disrespecting anybody that does do that. I've actually
Speaker 3: been in studio and saw people do that before and
Speaker 3: just sat there amazed, like, Bro, you didn't even think
Speaker 3: you just you just said said something.
Speaker 2: That's dope.
Speaker 3: I got to sit down and like really calculate what
Speaker 3: I want to do. And I think that I think
Speaker 3: that that's why my music comes out the way it does.
Speaker 2: That's right. Maybe blame it on public school. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm thankful for public school.
Speaker 1: Me too.
Speaker 2: I went to public school. Turned out right, Yeah I didn't.
Speaker 2: But we're here, We're here, my guy. Listen, Neil Manda, Man,
Speaker 2: you give a really good hug. You walked in here
Speaker 2: and we hugged it out and there was a tightness there,
Speaker 2: and uh, it didn't didn't feel funny. It felt right.
Speaker 2: It felt like two bros, like two men. You know
Speaker 2: that that have gone on, you know that that have
Speaker 2: come a long way. Indeed, gave each other a nice hug,
Speaker 2: a nice embrace. There's nothing wrong with its, nothing wrong
Speaker 2: with embracing your brother. Ain't nothing wrong, no, man, that
Speaker 2: loving that hug. Thank you. Maybe I needed it, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's good, happy to be that
Speaker 2: for you. But I appreciate that. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: You know, Coaches joined the show and he is geeked
Speaker 2: out that you're here. I am geeked.
Speaker 5: Ain't know why because like you know, so, I'm Filipino
Speaker 5: and Filipinos love Neo man. Filipinos love you, bro.
Speaker 2: I was. I was not aware. I appreciate it. You
Speaker 2: the Philippines I have. Do you know what I have? Yeah?
Speaker 2: They do love me. Wow. No, I know, it's bringing
Speaker 2: it's bringing back.
Speaker 3: We just we was out there just uh just reason
Speaker 3: like the end of the year, and I took a
Speaker 3: picture with every single person in the airport and people
Speaker 3: that worked there, the security that do like it might
Speaker 3: have been bombs that got through there because.
Speaker 2: People were taking pictures.
Speaker 3: It was it was all work, all all works stopped. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: flights was missed, luggage was lost. I took pictures with everybody,
Speaker 3: and it was it was. It was. It was a
Speaker 3: really dope and it's like genuine love. It's not that
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, It's it's like they really
Speaker 3: can't like that's dope.
Speaker 2: That's dope. Yeah, shout out to shout out to the Philippines.
Speaker 2: They're not taking pictures with you and then asking you
Speaker 2: who are you? Yeah, that thing. No, they know who
Speaker 2: you are. You're famous. Can I get a picture? What's
Speaker 2: your name again?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I take those pictures too, though, I do.
Speaker 2: That's okay.
Speaker 4: Something that I do appreciate, like you said, is that
Speaker 4: you took a picture with every single person and all
Speaker 4: it takes is for fifteen seconds for a picture. If
Speaker 4: that like, to make someone's day true, to make someone a.
Speaker 3: Three hour situation and that yeah, particular cations a million, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but no, but I prod myss up on that. I've
Speaker 3: never grasped the concept of an artist that would disrespect
Speaker 3: the people who literally put you where you are, Like,
Speaker 3: if not for your fans, who are you? These are
Speaker 3: the people that buy the concert tickets, These are the
Speaker 3: people that download the music, requesting music on the radio.
Speaker 3: So why would you be Why would you Why would
Speaker 3: you be mean to them? You know that that doesn't
Speaker 3: make any They put you on the pedalstal you're on.
Speaker 3: You're gonna look down on that.
Speaker 2: That's stupid. You're human. You're a good human, my man.
Speaker 2: All How great is it running into specifically women right
Speaker 2: that didn't give you the time of day back in
Speaker 2: the day, and they see you now? How how great
Speaker 2: is that?
Speaker 3: So? Uh, the last show we did was the last
Speaker 3: show we did was here, But then before that, we
Speaker 3: did a show in Vegas. And every time I perform
Speaker 3: in Vegas, I kid you not, I run into at
Speaker 3: least four girls that I went to high school with
Speaker 3: that would not spit in my face if my eyebrowsers
Speaker 3: on fire at that point in time. Every single time
Speaker 3: we go back and yeah, it's it's definitely a yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a beautiful experience. It is.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful situation. It feels like revenge. Almost nothing wrong
Speaker 2: with that. You're not hurting anyone. Almost, it's definitely you're
Speaker 2: not hurting anyone.
Speaker 3: I would get hurt. Front row tickets so that she
Speaker 3: can see everything she missed, right up close. Right.
Speaker 2: That's when city boys up. We're here, Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: we're here. What's up? Garcia? Oh yeah, sorry, sorry, show
Speaker 2: it's up. Jack.
Speaker 4: You know you said three times in your career there's
Speaker 4: songs that were one hundred percent ahead and everyone's like yes,
Speaker 4: And one of those was so sick? What were the
Speaker 4: other two?
Speaker 3: Uh? So sick was one because of you was one.
Speaker 3: Marios let Me Love You was the other one. Where
Speaker 3: everybody in the room was like, that's one. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: doesn't it doesn't happen like that. Like, you know, I
Speaker 3: have roughly four to five opinions that I respect, you know.
Speaker 3: So these are the people that I do a song,
Speaker 3: I run it by them, and you know what they say,
Speaker 3: I take take the hit, take the heart. And normally
Speaker 3: it's you know, three people like this one, two people
Speaker 3: like this one, or four people like this, one person
Speaker 3: like that one. Only those three times has it ever
Speaker 3: been everybody like, yep, that's one. That's just the only time,
Speaker 3: the only three times.
Speaker 4: That do you because you've like hit those like three
Speaker 4: times already, do you constantly like just be like all right,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try like so hard, or you just wait
Speaker 4: for it to come naturally.
Speaker 2: You gotta wait for it to come naturally. It's gotta
Speaker 2: be magic.
Speaker 3: I can't even tell you why those it happened that
Speaker 3: way those three times, you know, because in the first,
Speaker 3: the first couple of times it happened, it's like, all right,
Speaker 3: now I'm gonna try to write it in the similar
Speaker 3: vein of this to see if that happens again, and
Speaker 3: it never. It never does, so you kind of just
Speaker 3: gotta do what feels good and you know, hope that
Speaker 3: people agree. Have you ever written a pile of songs
Speaker 3: for specific artists and they chose none of them? Yes,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah that that that happens, and you gotta
Speaker 3: go home.
Speaker 2: With all these songs.
Speaker 3: Like but see, the thing can be used for something
Speaker 3: like Okay, so for example, uh, make me better fabulous myself.
Speaker 3: I wrote that originally for jay Z. Yeah, that that
Speaker 3: that track would shout out to simular and did the track.
Speaker 3: That was my first time going to the studio with
Speaker 3: jay Z and also my first time seeing jay Z
Speaker 3: and Beyonce, you know, out of the public eye, you know.
Speaker 3: So I'm sitting there with the track and I'm supposed
Speaker 3: to be writing the hook for j and like Jay
Speaker 3: and b are over in the corner just kind of
Speaker 3: in their own world, hugged up, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like no one else exists.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, all right, this was early on. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like kind of puppy love.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, Jay is clearly a movement
Speaker 3: by itself, but them together is like a force. Like
Speaker 3: I'm a movement by myself, but I'm a force when
Speaker 3: we're together. Maybe I'm good a by myself, but you
Speaker 3: you make me okay?
Speaker 2: I wrote it, killed that man. I wrote it. I
Speaker 2: played it for him.
Speaker 3: He loved it that night, but then like two days
Speaker 3: later heard me and said, this kind of feels more
Speaker 3: like an R and B record, So I want you
Speaker 3: to have it.
Speaker 2: So he gave it to me, and I'm like, all right, cool.
Speaker 3: So I wrote versus to it in the whole nine uh,
Speaker 3: And it's sat in the archives for a few months,
Speaker 3: like just because what I wound up doing it kind
Speaker 3: of didn't match the format. So again, you know situation
Speaker 3: where everything can be used for something. I'm just randomly
Speaker 3: in the studio playing stuff for fab.
Speaker 2: I play that. He's like, bro, what are you doing
Speaker 2: with that? I'm like, well, nothing, to be honest, let
Speaker 2: me get that all right?
Speaker 4: Cool?
Speaker 3: He took it, wrote his verses to it, and it
Speaker 3: became the one that everybody knows now. But initially it
Speaker 3: was supposed to be for j you know. So it
Speaker 3: just because the person you wrote it for it doesn't
Speaker 3: want it doesn't mean it's you scrap it. It just
Speaker 3: means you you you know, you reformat it and do
Speaker 3: something else with it. Yeah, I love how jay Z
Speaker 3: gave you a song you wrote. That's great, fucking jay
Speaker 3: Z man. Well, I bro, he gave he gave me
Speaker 3: the track because the Timberland track that would have would
Speaker 3: have cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars and he
Speaker 3: gave it to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know with Tim's blessing of course, of course,
Speaker 2: of course, and of course your three Grammys not one speech?
Speaker 2: Not one? How does that happen? Not one?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 3: My first time going to the Grammys is when I
Speaker 3: learned that there are categories that are not televised. You know,
Speaker 3: you watch the Grammys on TV, and you feel like
Speaker 3: the ones that that they that they show on TV
Speaker 3: are just are those are the ones? But it's like, no,
Speaker 3: there's there's there's hundreds of them that and a lot
Speaker 3: of them aren't televised. So I've won three times in
Speaker 3: categories that were never televised.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it is, but it's it's like it's
Speaker 3: like it's it's a bittersweet because it's still a Grammy.
Speaker 2: You know, category. What was it?
Speaker 3: What was it?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: Crap, I can't I can't think of it right off
Speaker 2: the top of my hair right now. Back in the day,
Speaker 2: categories used to be crazy too, Like I remember the
Speaker 2: American Music Awards had like Best Black Single, Like, hey, y'all, yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember that. What are we doing? I remember that? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we've We've gotten a little. Actually that we haven't. I'm
Speaker 2: about to give us credit that we do not desire.
Speaker 2: They just worried it different now. But we know what
Speaker 2: they mean. We know what they mean. It's all good.
Speaker 2: But three Grammys is man, we'ren't accomplishment.
Speaker 3: Man, I don't. I don't you know, it is what
Speaker 3: it is. I know that this just means I got
Speaker 3: more work to do, you know. I gotta the category
Speaker 3: that they put on TV yo.
Speaker 2: And when you do, get that grabb me where you
Speaker 2: get to walk across that stage. Man, that speech. They
Speaker 2: better not turn on the music on.
Speaker 3: I wish they would. I'd be done to hit somebody
Speaker 3: with the gred turn it off. As I was saying, mom, mom,
Speaker 3: and god, mom and god it. Yeah, I'm here to
Speaker 3: do four Grammy speeches. Everybody, get comfortable.
Speaker 4: How many songs do you would you say if you
Speaker 4: had to put a number on it? Have we not
Speaker 4: heard and probably will never hearesh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a large number. So lot.
Speaker 3: If you've heard a million, there's eight million, you haven't
Speaker 3: easily easily yeah yeah. And then it's like bits and
Speaker 3: pieces of songs like like like a line from this
Speaker 3: song didn't work in this song, so I took it and.
Speaker 2: Put it in that song. Anymore type situation, you know, like.
Speaker 3: Again if if the world has never heard of it's
Speaker 3: brand new, you know, so this all right, this, this
Speaker 3: didn't work this way, so can you reformat? You You
Speaker 3: switch it around like puzzle pieces and put it somewhere
Speaker 3: else and it works over here and work over there,
Speaker 3: like yeah, that's what That's basically how it goes.
Speaker 5: You have songs in the archive, like you know, very
Speaker 5: old songs that you re used for like I guess future.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Again, a bar is a bar. Just because
Speaker 3: the bar didn't work for that one, don't mean it
Speaker 3: don't work.
Speaker 2: It just didn't work for that one.
Speaker 3: So you take the same bar, you put it somewhere
Speaker 3: else and it works.
Speaker 2: Man. Yo, it was your MTV cribs real No no, no,
Speaker 2: it was not no. Yeah, that wasn't my house. That
Speaker 2: was my manager's house at the time.
Speaker 3: Wow, Because I was on the road, and I hadn't
Speaker 3: purchased the house yet, right right, So we used his crib.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I come to find out that a lot of them
Speaker 3: MTV cribs wasn't real. Yeah, of the MTV cribs weren't
Speaker 3: not real.
Speaker 2: Everything childhood Yeah yeah, Yo, it's cousin's sleeping on the floor.
Speaker 2: That's real ship right there, that's it's crazy. Man. I
Speaker 2: can do it now, I mean the show. Oh no,
Speaker 2: we can do it now. Yeah, we can definitely pick
Speaker 2: a house. Yeah, you still got a house in Vegas.
Speaker 2: I do not no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3: Now, I'm in Atlanta. I got a little spot in
Speaker 3: l A. And uh, I got a couple, a couple
Speaker 3: of condos in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Actually I had a boy. But Vegas is near and deer, right,
Speaker 2: I mean that's that's where I first met you. You
Speaker 2: were first getting your start. Indeed, you would come to
Speaker 2: the radio station and hang out. Yea, and yeah, I
Speaker 2: know that the you know, seven oh two means a
Speaker 2: lot to you. Still absolutely went to high school there.
Speaker 2: Seven o two made me who I am, you know,
Speaker 2: as an entertainer. My first taste of the stage, I
Speaker 2: was an understudy for a show on a strip called
Speaker 2: EFX that it was David Cassidy was the start of
Speaker 2: the show. And uh, the guy that I was understudying
Speaker 2: for his wife got pregnant, so he was gone that
Speaker 2: whole summer. So it was just me on stage every
Speaker 2: night doing this this this big show of the MGM
Speaker 2: Grand And yeah, that's that's kind of where I got
Speaker 2: my show legs at ye. Man, that's crazy, that's great.
Speaker 2: And look at it now, man, so many, so many projects,
Speaker 2: so many songs written for other artists. D what a career.
Speaker 3: I've been blessed. Man, I've been blessed. I have zero
Speaker 3: complaint the good things that happened, to bad things. This happened,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I live with no regrets because even the bad stuff
Speaker 3: that happened led me to.
Speaker 2: Hear you know what I mean? And I am. I
Speaker 2: can honestly say I'm happier now than I have ever
Speaker 2: been in life. Like things are really really good. And
Speaker 2: it sounds and it looks like you're making a lot
Speaker 2: of happy decisions, indeed, decisions that make you happy.
Speaker 3: And that's the important part. I'm not living this life
Speaker 3: for nobody but myself and maybe my kids that's it.
Speaker 2: But you but you have in the past, we all have.
Speaker 2: I mean, of course I am right, like you know,
Speaker 2: we're wired as as as kids are, right because of
Speaker 2: what we see. All Right, You're supposed to grow up,
Speaker 2: get a job, be successful, one wife, have children, pick
Speaker 2: a fence house. That's what a man should do, right
Speaker 2: and crazy for everybody.
Speaker 3: You never question it, right, you go, this is what
Speaker 3: is This is how supposed to happen.
Speaker 2: This is what it's supposed to be. No one ever goes, well,
Speaker 2: why why is it supposed to be that? Why does
Speaker 2: it have to be that? Well, because it does. That's
Speaker 2: just what it's that's just well, it says who says
Speaker 2: the world?
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So my living is for me or my
Speaker 3: living is for the world, right, because if I can't
Speaker 3: pay my bills, the world ain't gonna pay them.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: If I'm depressed, the world ain't gonna cheer me up
Speaker 3: like I got it. So I've got to start making
Speaker 3: some decisions that makes sense for me. And that's what
Speaker 3: I started doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And if you have desires as a man, right, uh,
Speaker 2: and you fulfill those desires behind people's backs. Now you're
Speaker 2: hurting people true when all you have to do is
Speaker 2: make yourself happy first, to be honest? Is that what
Speaker 2: it is? Honesty? Honesty?
Speaker 3: I know that's that's a beautiful segue. I like what
Speaker 3: you're doing there, lovely transition. Sure, No, you know what
Speaker 3: what I what I've realized now is that there was
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of time, a lot of energy,
Speaker 3: a lot of money wasted on just being dishonest, when
Speaker 3: in actuality, I could have kept a rail from the
Speaker 3: jump and save myself a lot of headache, a lot
Speaker 3: of heartache, just a lot of I gotta go back
Speaker 3: to money.
Speaker 2: It's so much money, God, so much money.
Speaker 3: But yeah, man, I've I decided after my divorce that
Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna lie to anybody anymore, and it including favor,
Speaker 3: including myself. Be honest with myself, be honest with the
Speaker 3: people around me, and you know, let the chips forward,
Speaker 3: they will, And I can, honestly, I can genuinely say
Speaker 3: that honesty is the best policy. Let her choose, let
Speaker 3: her decide. You never know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: She might be with it and she might not. But
Speaker 3: either way, you slice it if you lie and she
Speaker 3: catches you because she's gonna catch you, fellas, I don't
Speaker 3: care how smooth you think you are, don't care how
Speaker 3: player you think you are. She's gonna catch you. Okay,
Speaker 3: you're gonna fall asleep and she's gonna get in your phone.
Speaker 3: Are you gonna forget the lie you told? Are you
Speaker 3: the apple tea is? It's something? She gonna catch you? Bruh,
Speaker 3: She's gonna catch you. You're better off just keeping it
Speaker 3: the buck and letting the ones that rock the way
Speaker 3: you rock gravitate to you. It's easier, it's easy.
Speaker 2: Well, are you poligical?
Speaker 3: It's not polygamy, right, it's poly polygamy, polyamory, polyamory.
Speaker 2: Yes, basically it's all of that, right yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: m hmm, Jack, it could never be you. Huh.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it could never.
Speaker 2: I just that's not they're engaged. Congratulations.
Speaker 3: Listen, don't don't don't think that I'm saying that monogamy
Speaker 3: don't work. Monogamy didn't work for me for you, sure
Speaker 3: that I know people that have been married for years happily.
Speaker 3: It's it's definitely a real thing. I just it just
Speaker 3: did personally didn't work for me. Polyamorous relationships work for me.
Speaker 2: Don't don't.
Speaker 3: Don't go and ask your girlfriend for a girlfriend to
Speaker 3: say what Nel said, don't do that.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say my wife, can you talk to her
Speaker 2: for me? Absolutely, babe, you're on with Neil. I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: Just the other day and I was like, hey, like,
Speaker 2: have you ever heard story Time?
Speaker 5: And she was like, no, what's that?
Speaker 2: Wow? Let me just play it?
Speaker 5: And then so she's getting ready in one night it's
Speaker 5: bumping on my speakers and she was like.
Speaker 2: Yo, this song is nut. What Storytime a cry or
Speaker 2: like a cry out? Were you trying to get out
Speaker 2: of a box?
Speaker 3: No? Storytime was a real situation that happened, And I actually, yeah,
Speaker 3: I actually got caught behind that situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, because I introduced it and she.
Speaker 3: Was like, well maybe, And I'm like, oh cool, So
Speaker 3: I just call her now. She was like caller, Oh damn,
Speaker 3: how did you get her number?
Speaker 1: She was.
Speaker 2: She would be down with someone you guys met together,
Speaker 2: not someone you were meeting behind her back.
Speaker 5: Also in real life, she was down to bring in
Speaker 5: another guy.
Speaker 3: She know what. She wasn't down to bringing another guyte
Speaker 3: she said, she said, all right, well you so you
Speaker 3: so gung ho about another girl. What if I said
Speaker 3: I wanted another dude, and I'm like, hell no, absolutely not, no, thank.
Speaker 2: You, very selfish of you. Man is good.
Speaker 3: The other side, well, here's here's the reality of it.
Speaker 3: I do partnership, not ownership. You're not my property. I
Speaker 3: don't even want I don't even want to own you.
Speaker 3: I want a partner in this situation. I don't demand exclusivity.
Speaker 3: I don't ask for it, nothing like that. If you
Speaker 3: offer it and I accept, there are rules to follow.
Speaker 3: Now on the same side of that, nothing is above
Speaker 3: a conversation as long as we're being honest.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Nothing is above a conversation. But again, if you did,
Speaker 3: if you offer exclusivity meaning just me and only me,
Speaker 3: and I say, I you sure you understand that your
Speaker 3: exclusivity to me doesn't mean exclusivity to you. This is
Speaker 3: a decision that you're making on your own. If you
Speaker 3: make that decision, and I say, all right, cool, cool,
Speaker 3: Well here's the rules. Here's the rules that I need
Speaker 3: you to follow. And if you're cool with that, then
Speaker 3: we rock. If you're not, we don't and no love loss.
Speaker 3: You go your way, I go mine, and it's all good.
Speaker 2: Sounds like a partnership that works, reached out to you
Speaker 2: with support in this judgmental space. You know what's crazy.
Speaker 2: It's one of those situations where men reach out in secret.
Speaker 6: Yeah, honey, I would never a bro congratulations. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: would never do that, babe. Just me and you, babe, Bro,
Speaker 6: you living life? Yeah, yeah, no, No, it's a lot
Speaker 6: of that. It's a lot of which I honestand you
Speaker 6: know I saying I to be completely honest. I'm not
Speaker 6: tripping either way. If you with it, cool, if you're
Speaker 6: not with it cool, like I'm again because I'm not
Speaker 6: doing it for y'all. I'm doing it for me.
Speaker 3: You know, you wouldn't even have known had had Shade
Speaker 3: Room not picked up on a post from one of
Speaker 3: the girls, like I don't. I wasn't posting initially, like
Speaker 3: because again, it's not life, y'all.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But you know it is what it is, and now
Speaker 2: here we are bringing it. Yeah, yeah, great, I don't mind.
Speaker 2: I don't mind.
Speaker 3: We can talk about it because because again I have
Speaker 3: nothing to hide, because I don't feel like I'm doing
Speaker 3: nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just being in.
Speaker 4: Multiple partnerships now, I guess give you more, not ammo.
Speaker 4: But like does it help more with writing songs?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, yeah, I can't write about life a fan
Speaker 3: living it absolutely and it allows me to write from
Speaker 3: different perspectives.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's it's there's there's the monogamous perspective, there's a polyamorous perspective.
Speaker 3: There's a perspective of the woman who is curious but
Speaker 3: you know, can't get over her jealousy. Mind you, we
Speaker 3: talk about all of that. Like, the only way this
Speaker 3: works is if everything is laid out on the table.
Speaker 3: You know, there's there's four women, right, It's four individuals,
Speaker 3: four different personalities, four different outlooks out of you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's also an experience for people too who
Speaker 4: maybe are curious about it and just want to know
Speaker 4: about it, and they learn that through your music.
Speaker 3: Indeed, see people get caught up on the sexual element
Speaker 3: of it. It's more than if the only reason you're
Speaker 3: doing it is for the sexual part of it, You're
Speaker 3: you're bound to fail. Well, that's that's an orgy, that's swinging,
Speaker 3: that's there's there's something, it's something something totally different. This
Speaker 3: is community.
Speaker 2: This is a tea.
Speaker 3: We are we are partners in this situation. You know,
Speaker 3: four women, five people including me, five different incomes. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I have seven children, but they
Speaker 3: help with the kids. My mom knows everybody, loves everybody,
Speaker 3: My sister knows everybody. The baby mamaus have met him.
Speaker 3: Like it's like it's a community thing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's more than just uh an orgy every night. You know,
Speaker 3: it happens, but it's not the focal point.
Speaker 2: It's not. I'm over here trying to make it sound
Speaker 2: as normal as possible.
Speaker 4: With the village aspect, you know, like you're it takes
Speaker 4: a village.
Speaker 3: It definitely, especially with seven and me being busy as
Speaker 3: I am, I'm rarely home. I can keep that real,
Speaker 3: you know. And my kids, you know, thank God bless
Speaker 3: my kids for them being understanding. You know, if you
Speaker 3: want your Roebucks and your v Bucks and you and them,
Speaker 3: Jordan's daddy gotta go to work, and why daddys at work?
Speaker 3: You know, Uh, this was gonna cook your dinner, and
Speaker 3: this is gonna make breakfast, and it's gonna get you
Speaker 3: ready for school.
Speaker 2: And you know, is it confusing for your kids?
Speaker 3: No, no, because there's conversation right now. Kids understand what
Speaker 3: you explain, understand what you explain. If if I make
Speaker 3: it confusing, then it's confusing.
Speaker 2: Well you have we have more than one girlfriend? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: how very simple, son. I mean, yeah, I explained it.
Speaker 2: Then they get it. They understand that's right, Neil.
Speaker 4: That also just shows to you as a father how
Speaker 4: open your kids are to accepting that too.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're so understanding of my kids.
Speaker 3: Understand that my kids understand that they are loved, that
Speaker 3: they are loved, that they are caring for, and that
Speaker 3: is what matters at the end of the day, no
Speaker 3: matter how you you know what I'm saying, I've I've
Speaker 3: embraced you know, Moneta Shop for example, her her new
Speaker 3: husband Keith, who I love. I almost love him more
Speaker 3: than her. He's a great, great guy and I've completely
Speaker 3: embraced him. And it's it's again, it's what you explain
Speaker 3: to the kids in the way that you explain it
Speaker 3: and accept it as long as it's love.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, how you get there
Speaker 2: doesn't man. And they see love, Ye show them love,
Speaker 2: and that's it. That's understand that it's love of course,
Speaker 2: yeah there man. Absolutely, you get to the point where
Speaker 2: exactly and then you can spread that around. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a it's a contagious energy. Yeah man. And one thing
Speaker 2: I believe is like, your children have to see you happy.
Speaker 2: I don't think I ever saw my parents truly happy,
Speaker 2: right because of how we grew up. Right, But like
Speaker 2: my kids have to see their parents happy. It's extremely important. Definitely,
Speaker 2: it's not fake happy. It's got to be genuinely happy.
Speaker 3: Because they could tell the kids. Kids are not stupid
Speaker 3: what you say versus what's what's really going on? Like
Speaker 3: the way you put it, like they can feel it,
Speaker 3: you know, daddy, Daddy says he's happy. But okay, that's
Speaker 3: why daddy walking around with his shoulders up in his
Speaker 3: head down all the time because he's happy.
Speaker 2: No, they understand what's going on. I want to get
Speaker 2: it quick. What's the internet's obsession with Beyonce not performing Irreplaceable?
Speaker 3: I have no idea what is that? I have zero,
Speaker 3: zero concern. Like I mean, if the song is what
Speaker 3: it is, it's done what it's done, and yeah, a
Speaker 3: monster and there always will be whether she performs it
Speaker 3: or not.
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean Beyonce has a ridiculous catalog, and if she
Speaker 3: chooses not to sing that song, that's that's her pariorative.
Speaker 2: It's all good.
Speaker 3: The Internet always wants something to be beef. I don't
Speaker 3: have time to beef. I have four girlfriends and seven kids.
Speaker 3: I don't have time to beef anyway, zero time. I'm sorry, Beyonce,
Speaker 3: love you to death.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, is what it is. We're good.
Speaker 3: We're good.
Speaker 2: I'm good. I'll stop just because you'all mad. Stop trying
Speaker 2: to make everybody else mad. I'm not mad for the
Speaker 2: internet to look in the mirror, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 2: come on, man.
Speaker 5: Something I found on the internet was actually, uh, you're
Speaker 5: super into moy Thai?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Man, how did you get into that?
Speaker 5: Who?
Speaker 3: A friend of mine? It was boxing first. I started
Speaker 3: doing boxing training and we happened to be in Tiland.
Speaker 3: He was like, bro, you want a real workout.
Speaker 2: Come with me.
Speaker 3: So we went to the We went to the place,
Speaker 3: and uh yeah, I died like times, like four separate deaths,
Speaker 3: came back to life, died again like four different times.
Speaker 3: It was insane that I and mind you those so
Speaker 3: you know, I don't I don't know how to say this.
Speaker 3: What iout was sounded crazy, but like the guys are
Speaker 3: like really small but strong as hell, like a dude
Speaker 3: not not even half your size, will kick you through
Speaker 3: that wall like nuts, how strong they are.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, King, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 3: It's I mean, mind you from the spiritual element of it.
Speaker 3: And and you know that the warriors spar and all that.
Speaker 3: That's but above that, I do not think that you
Speaker 3: can get in there and just throw kick with the dudes. Man, No,
Speaker 3: you will die bro like oh yeah, oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: The strongest when they're was a girl. Not the girls
Speaker 3: can't be shown. But like the hardest kick I experienced
Speaker 3: came from the smallest woman in the place.
Speaker 2: Wow, it was nothing. A little bit, a little bit,
Speaker 2: a little bit, a little bit, YO, show me quality
Speaker 2: R and B music. Nichil, thank you very much for
Speaker 2: your time and then appreciate the love your honesty always
Speaker 2: Neil Man, It's always appreciated.
Speaker 3: Man.
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