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<v Speaker 1>To day's topic reflections on Michael Jackson. There's still a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of talk about Michael Jackson, and I'm not here

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<v Speaker 1>to gossip. I take what I hear with a grain

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<v Speaker 1>of salt, but I do pay attention. Recently, I came

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<v Speaker 1>across a video of Michael on stage with Jay Z

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<v Speaker 1>and others. I'm not sure what the full story was.

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<v Speaker 1>All I saw was him greeting the fans, but he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't seem very happy as he walked away. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>was just exhausted. This was at the Summer Jam in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand one, and I'm only just now seeing it.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot was happening in my own life back then.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching the video, it struck me, and it was strange

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<v Speaker 1>to me that Michael was on stage with rappers. Michael

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't someone who easily mingled with just anyone, and even

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<v Speaker 1>famous people felt lucky if he acknowledged them. There are

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<v Speaker 1>rumors that he even distanced himself from his own family.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I hear various things about him, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>say how many of them are true. I can't claim

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<v Speaker 1>to know everything he was dealing with. What might appear

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<v Speaker 1>one way could very well be something else. There must

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<v Speaker 1>have been a lot going on in Michael's life for

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<v Speaker 1>him to be on stage with jay Z. It also

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<v Speaker 1>surprised me to see him beatboxing while watching an interview

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<v Speaker 1>with Oprah. Rap music had become really popular, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess he felt he had to adapt to the changing

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<v Speaker 1>music scene. But seeing Michael Jackson with rappers and doing

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<v Speaker 1>beatbox wasn't the Michael I was used to knowing In

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, I wasn't sure if Michael Jackson really liked

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<v Speaker 1>rap music. Back in the eighties, during the making of

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<v Speaker 1>his album Bad, there were rumors about him and Quincy Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard that Michael once said rap is dead when

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<v Speaker 1>Quincy suggested working with the group run DMC for that album.

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<v Speaker 1>This disagreement was one of the reasons they parted way

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<v Speaker 1>after the album Bad. Michael wanted more control over his

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<v Speaker 1>music and felt that Quincy didn't understand the newer trends

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<v Speaker 1>like hip hop. I was also surprised that Quincy wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to work with rap music, but then I learned he

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<v Speaker 1>actually understood street life and Quincy Jones made a rap

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<v Speaker 1>record back in nineteen eighty nine with his Grammy winning

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<v Speaker 1>album Back on the Block. Sometimes what we read or

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<v Speaker 1>watch on TV doesn't show the whole picture. We often

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<v Speaker 1>only hear part of the story, and what we know

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<v Speaker 1>may not even be close to everything that's really going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Gail Nobles. Thank you for listening to and All

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<v Speaker 1>Time MJ podcast, where MJ stands for Michael Jackson.