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Speaker 1: My god, I have a question.

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Speaker 2: This is a cold open.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up everybody, and welcome to it just means

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more football and coffee.

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Speaker 2: I'm Rob Williams. He is Craig McMichael, and we are.

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Speaker 4: Here on Selection Sunday reacting to what is going on

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in the first ever twelve team college football playoff. If

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you could find me at Rob Williams GCP at McMichael

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seven for Craig on socials. We are a part of

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the last word on college football and college Gridiron Coast

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to Coast at Gridiron Coast on x and so you

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can check out all the shows, the family of shows

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that are on the network here if you would like

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to check out the acc or Florida Football Insiders, get

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off my pieline covering West Coast teams. I heard the

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number one seed is out there on the West Coast,

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so that's probably a good look. And of course a cigar.

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The Service Academies, you absolutely do.

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Speaker 1: I was wrong.

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Speaker 4: Hold on, let me give flowers to Yards and Stripes

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because we can't leave Carni out and the Service Academies

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definitely deserve their flowers this year, if never before, because

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they showed out all right now, that's aside at Gridiron

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Coast to find all the shows. But we are the

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best because the best league in college football. It just

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means more football and coffee. Craig, I have coffee in

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my cup at nine pm.

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Speaker 5: I worked.

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Speaker 4: I worked seven to seven today and my brain is bush.

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Cheers to a great show. Hey, I before I'll let

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you tell me how right I am, let's welcome our guests.

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We have Drew Crabtree, who covers our Higher State and

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the Big Ten with us, as well as Andrew McCleary,

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who covers Texas Tech at the Big twelve.

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Speaker 2: So both other conferences are represented.

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Speaker 4: And we had acc last week with Casey and so

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now we've kind of hit the gamut. Sorry, G five,

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we don't have a rep for you, all right. That's

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maybe foreshadowing to my opinions later on in the show.

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Speaker 2: So what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Guys?

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Speaker 2: How are we feeling feeling?

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having us on.

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Speaker 5: I feel great. It's it's it's great to be here

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with you know, three other knuckleheads. I can't wait to

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watch watch all four of us come together and point

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fingers and yell and and just really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be I'm not.

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Speaker 5: I'm not letting Craig do it. I'm not. I'm not

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gonna let him do it.

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Speaker 1: What would I do? Andrew? Andrew? Let me help you?

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Because it's all good, brother. We've got a Texas school

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Speaker 5: Texas schools, schools, two Texas schools.

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Speaker 4: That's right, right, right, all right, Craig, that's a that's ah,

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that's good. But I don't want to get too far

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down the road without you, without you talking about how you.

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Speaker 1: All right? I owe it to Dan Lanning even though

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he almost choked against mid game James Franklin and Penn State.

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I am that worthy.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry you said his name incorrectly. It's twenty twenty

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four Big Champion Dan Lanning, and that's what we've been

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calling him since last season right here on this show.

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Speaker 1: How hard? How hard is it? The Big Tennis? The

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Pack twelve? Guy can win it? Who didn't? Who couldn't

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Speaker 6: I'm just sorry, Pop Pop Polk, No Organs. That's a

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ridiculous team. Like I've I've got no I've got nothing

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bad to say. Dan Lanning and he's got that team.

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Speaker 5: Humming and bad things to say.

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Speaker 6: You know, so Knight's got that team humming too, But

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no that that that game was so much fun to watch.

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I did tweet out when Penn State made it. Then

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they got the ball back with less than two minutes

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to go down a score. I'm like, I'm not going

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to get my hopes up because i know this is

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this is James Franklin in a big game. And then

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Drew Aller throws that god awful interception. So now that

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Speaker 1: All right, So the Heisman guy has a question. I

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Heisman article because of Dylan Gabriel being on the Ducks undefeated. Yeah,

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so this is what I'm asking though, Beyond the inflight

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is their offset potential?

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Speaker 5: Because no, no, no, go ahead and no go ahead, Robin,

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Speaker 2: No, you have.

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Speaker 5: You have a unicorn of a player in Travis Huder,

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you know, excelling at the highest levels in two different positions.

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at least a decade, absolutely trucking folks for an entire season.

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as Barry Sanders. From a single season record standpoint, you know,

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there is there is no those two in itself stand

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apart from everybody else, like Dylan Gabriel's had a great season,

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you know, and too you know, ring the big twelve

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bell like Cam Scattabo probably deserves an invite. I think

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those two. Like you could have a pretty pretty close

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three man competition in the second tier down, but those

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top two, they stand apart. There's nothing, there's no there's

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Speaker 1: There The only reason I was thinking about that, Like

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you sometimes think about teammates that are on the same

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team splitting votes and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: Well, Derek has split votes with Travis Hunter, for sure.

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I don't think it's enough.

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Speaker 5: I think Travis un.

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Speaker 4: I think Travis Hunt is gonna win. I would vote

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for a gent if I had.

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Speaker 1: A but same Yeah, so I would vote for Travis.

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I'm a big twelve guy. There you go, see, Andrew,

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I'm coming across. I'm coming across. I'm building a bridge.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, just got just to rip it down from

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under my kick you out. He's going to rip it

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out God right from under my feet while I'm talking

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to him. No, she do or might take a couple

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of votes away, but I doubt it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I feel like Travis and Ashton

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are just gonna lot kind of like I guess the

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only reason I'm talking about splitting boats.

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Speaker 2: Is like, take what four or five people?

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Speaker 1: Five?

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Speaker 5: Listen, typically they take five.

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Speaker 1: Ye, there's gonna be five. It comes out to Monday,

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they'll announce the five candidates. But I think what's what's

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interesting and what I've seen for like the last four

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or five weeks in our own writers poll is Travis

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and Ashton are basically splitting those one two boats. So

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like that gap is so big that that was that

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was my only thought with like Dylan gegirl, like does

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those who splitting? Is there a possibility? To me? He's

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the only one that could possibly do it? But I again,

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Speaker 4: All Right, let's zoom back because now we really need

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to get into the meat of our discussion. We're going

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to react to the games at the end, So we

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have a few big picture questions that we want to

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get into before we get to the actual games that

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we just watched.

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Speaker 2: This weekend, but the first. But Craig, you inspired.

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Speaker 5: Me with that.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: Should we wait until after the playoffs to do this Heisman?

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Speaker 5: Crap?

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Speaker 1: No, it's wait. Did you just call the Heisman something

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I've been covering all season?

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Speaker 2: Crap I called? I called the voting I called the

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voting process.

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Speaker 1: Like bugs, bunny exploding cigars.

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Speaker 4: Do you know how many of these fools aren't watching?

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And don't don't give a crap what we're looking at?

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That are those There's a couple of fools voting before

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conference championship games are being played.

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Speaker 6: That's mine. That's my point with a lot of these awards,

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especially the Heisman. You're giving this is the pinnacle of

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individual awards in college football and honestly college sports in general.

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their conference and then obviously for a spot in the

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college football playoff? Why would you vote beforehand?

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Speaker 5: Like, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Understand you canceling out Travis Hunter? Then? Because because here's

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the deal. If because is the Heisman regular season? Because

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to follow that logic, Travis Hunter, his book is complete.

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He didn't compete in the conference championship, He's not in

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the College Football Playoff. He may go to a bowl game,

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but let's be honest, he probably won't. But like, so

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when do you, like, like when did when do you

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stop it? Because I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm

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actually bringing up a like a valid question. I'm not

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actually poking the bear for ONCET.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's a It's a very good question because

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you know, obviously all the other polls and all the

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the other awards and the All American and so on

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and so forth, they only take into consideration the regular season.

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that is the Heisman, you do want you want to

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take in consideration. You know, whether or not they led

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their team to a conference obviously not, you know, not

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everything is made equal because you know Jade and Daniels

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definitely did not win the then he didn't win the

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SEC last year, but he had a ridiculous year. But

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these players stepping up on the biggest stage, is you

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want to take that into consideration. I mean, I understand

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the rate, he's an aspect of it because it levels

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the playing field for the most part. But for me,

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wait until after the conference championship.

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Speaker 1: So would you both agree though, that you need clear

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criteria to make sure that you're making the most important decision?

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Speaker 4: Now, what is the criteria? Should we just change it

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from week to week player to player? I think we

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should evaluate Travis Hunter on one set of criteria and

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ask gent on a different set, and then maybe Dvilan

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Speaker 2: That seems to be how we put teams in the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: Might that that that seems to be how we've rearranged

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college football to take. I'm gonna take my ball and

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go play my game. You're gonna take your ball and

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go play your game. And then I'm gonna tell you

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how your game is wrong. And then I'm gonna tell

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you how your game is wrong, and then we're gonna

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fight some more.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty much how it goes.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So while we're talking about college college or sorry,

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conference championship games, let's talk about that.

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Speaker 5: What's the role of the championship games?

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Speaker 1: Right now?

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Speaker 2: So we we just watched all of our leagues finish up.

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Speaker 4: We now have champions I understand what the what the

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defined role of the of the championship games is as

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it stands now, but we know, like all this is

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a moving target, we're gonna get all this redefined moving forward.

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So in your opinions, what should be the role of

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these conference smanship games? What impact should they play?

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Speaker 5: I mean, just like with all of this, it's going

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to start with the money. Your athletic directors do not

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want to give up these games because it's it's money,

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plain and simple. Like they showed up. I don't think

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they're ever going away. So that that's where it's going

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to start and end. The conversation is with the money factor,

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and the fact is these conference championships bring in money now.

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Attendance at these games was noticeably different. There's plenty of

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screen shots floating around on social media that you know,

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maybe the crowds were not as jazz, but I'm going

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to tell you right now, like Penn State and Oregon,

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both two teams who were locked in to a playoff spot,

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showed out in that conference title game. Obviously SMU Clemson

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showed out. Georgia Texas showed out, Like you know, they

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were different flavor, but you could tell nobody took it.

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Nobody took it lightly. No one was just kind of

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shown a Vanila game plan like they were they were

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trying to win. Now, I understand the stakes of not

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having to play another playoff game are real, but I

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think they're going to stick around. I don't think. I

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don't think they're ever going to go away.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: They might not get you a first round by in

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two years, but they're they're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 6: I think if if SMU had missed the cutoff, if

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they were if they were left at home, I think

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there would be a real conversation. Obviously, the moneymaker is

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still going to rule the day, but if there is

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a tangible risk of you know, my team is locked in,

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but if they lose the call, if they lose their

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conference title game, then they might not be locked in.

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Speaker 1: You know, the the.

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Speaker 6: Wherewithal the fact that you have the confidence that you're

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already locked in, you can take risks like what Kirby Smart,

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you know, said with that fake punt. He's like, we're

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locked in regardless, I'm gonna take a chance. Why not

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And then obviously paid off and then they've got the

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two seed. But yeah, no conference championships. I think a

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lot of it is. It's still going to be like that,

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that tradition of we won our conference and then obviously

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the money maker. But when we get to a point,

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and I think it's probably going to be within the

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next few years, because I feel like they're they're going

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to tinker and they're going to continue to tinker until

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we get the perfect setup, which will never happen, but

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they're going to continue to tinker. It will probably go

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more towards a m you know, you qualify for the playoff,

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but you won't get that that buy or if they

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move to the sixteen team, you'll qualify for the playoff

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and it will help your seating a little bit. But yeah,

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it's it feels like it's still it still does kind

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of feel like that they are, you know, just like

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cool exhibition games. Now obviously I can speak to the

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Big Ten title game because they're their audience. Participation was

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a little bit down because a few overly zealous individuals

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decided to buy up all of the tickets and then

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they had, yeah, you know, they craft the bed against

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a bad Michigan team, and all those people were you know,

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without a up a creek, without a paddle, trying to

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sell off their tickets for ten dollars plus obviously the

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cross country aspect of it.

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Speaker 1: But but I also think, like because we got this

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question less than our chat, you know, like, hey, is

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this right? Is this wrong? It was one of many

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hornets and mess that we debated which would be fun

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to bring out, and it was all safe. No one

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was getting put on the list or in time out yet.

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But if I look at conference championships in an era

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where the Big twelve has thirty five teams, now, is

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that right? Andrew eighteen, yes, eighteen, Big ten has eighteen,

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SEC has sixteen.

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Speaker 5: Big twelve at sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Acc no one really worries about there, like in California

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or something.

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Speaker 6: All coast conference, right, the all coasts right?

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Speaker 1: But but like, here's the deal. One of the things

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I did love again being a Big twelve guy, as

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I say, is you head up until the last week,

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you had like nineteen in diligible for the for the playoff,

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which I think is great, right, like or for that

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that conference championship, And I think it, I think it

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that that equates to be importance of conference champions because

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everyone wants to hang a banner in their practice facility

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in their stadium hate we were conference champions. Even Old

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Miss has done it as a co conference champion, though

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they've never played in Atlanta. But what the role is

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is it brings finality to the season, and in the

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era of these massively two big conferences, it does today.

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These are the top teams. They may not be the

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best teams, see the team that won in Charlotte last night,

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but these are the top teams in the conference. So

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they should get some sort of special treatment, some sort

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of preference when we go to whatever that playoff one

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that looks.

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Speaker 4: Like I think it shows progress as well. And I

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kind of chot in last night and said that I

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think that tradition is important, and I think that having

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something to hang your hat on for these players. For example, Yeah,

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Arizona State goes out in the first round or even

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in the second round, you know, and I think, by right,

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you know what I mean, in their first game, they

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still have this Commerence championship to hang their hats on.

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They still have this Commerence championship to point to in

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twenty years. Yeah, they're going to have a ring, Their

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names are going to be remembered, their team's going to

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be honored. Uh, they're going to be able to talk

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about winning this game and it's going to be a

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part of their experience because I mean, how many of

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those guys are going to be NFL NFL guys. I mean,

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this could be the end of the road for most

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people on the roster and they don't play football again.

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They move on with their lives. You know, for everybody,

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football ends at some point. And so what do you

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what accomplishments are we really talking about at the end

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of the day. I was I was in a team

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meeting for a high school team this week for a

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play a semi final playoff game, and that was the message.

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Speaker 2: You know, how many people in the room are never going.

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Speaker 4: To play football again if you go out and you

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and you don't win this football game. And so I

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think this is the same thing for conference championships. But

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ultimately I think it shows progress. Think about Dealingham, We'll

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stick there. Are you telling me that it doesn't mean

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something for that program to be able to say we

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won a conference championship and that is a major stepping

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stone to where we want to go. Everybody's goal is

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in the national championship, right Why wouldn't it be? But

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you can't just jump from its sub five hundred to

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national championship in a year theoretically, right, Well, they didn't

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win it, now, did they, Craig, They did not not

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even close. They should They shouldn't have been there, right anyway,

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that's a whole other argument. But I think that I

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think that it's just a mild marker, and I think

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that's why it's important.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we should be rid of it.

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Speaker 4: But you know, to Drew Andrews's points, the money is

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what really talks, right, and so that's what's going to

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hold it in place, all right. I mean, moving from

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that piece, let's look at what happens with the conference

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champions because right now they have automatic buys for four

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out of the five. Should they, in your opinion, have

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a auto buys or auto bids moving forward?

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Speaker 2: Because we're going to get to restructure.

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Speaker 7: This thing soon.

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Speaker 4: And I'll just I'll just throw it out there. I

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don't think they should have automatic bie weeks. They should

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just get into the field thoughts, gentlemen around the table.

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Speaker 5: I'll see you up. I'll see it up to Drew first.

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Speaker 6: No, I'm right there with you. I think automatic bids

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is the best route and then re then seating everything

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like March madness. Because as much as I love seeing

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Boise State with a three next to them or Arizona

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State with a four next to them, as much as

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I like to see that as a you know, just

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general fan of college football, I'm not entirely certain that

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the third and fourth best teams in the country.

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Speaker 1: It's not real nine to twelve according to the committee's rankings,

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or State is number nine, Arizona State is twelve.

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Speaker 6: Right, and then Clemson sixteen or something like that. It

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should definitely be something like that. Yeah, it should be.

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It should definitely. I'm fine with giving him automatic bids

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because you won your conference, you are not a part

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of one of the three lesser conferences, and you know,

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Ohio probably should have made it, but.

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Speaker 5: You know, we respect in this space exactly.

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Speaker 1: He was not talking about Brady Oaks Ohio, that Ohio, the.

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Speaker 8: Other Ohio, the proper Ohio, the but they.

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Speaker 6: Definitely should look at that. Obviously this year, that would

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benefit Notre Dame, who lost the Northern Illinois and obviously

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does not have that conference title conference title. So it'd

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be interesting if they tried to put that kind of

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criteria over them and cap them at five. But automatic

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buys just taste funny because it makes it look like

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Penn State. If they ever get over their big, big

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game nonsense, they are gonna or could if they ever did,

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they would have a pretty good path to the finals.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, So, I would like to remind the three of you,

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which I'm sure you guys remember this, but anybody listening,

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our current format was set up by Notre Dame's ethic director,

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mister Sanki himself, who was complaining about, you know, not

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being respected, which is ludicrous. But that's a steparate discussion.

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As terms of the playoff formatting. I actually like the buys.

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And here's why we just spent the last however many

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years in the fourteen world complaining about the first round matchups. Oh,

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they're just they're blowouts. They're blowouts, the blowouts. That's all

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we get, blowouts in the first round, right, Okay, Well,

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if we take number nine and number twelve and we've

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automatically given them a buy to the next round. Now,

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in theory, this television product, which we all believe is

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the goal here, we're trying to maximize a television product.

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Their goals. I understand. No, no, no, no, you are

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telling me the committee is doing this. The committee doesn't care.

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The folks who put mini care. The committee does not care.

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The folks who put this bracket together want to orchestrate

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the best television product. So now we have that, okay

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in theory. Now we're still probably gonna get a lot

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of blowouts. I mean, it's just gonna happen when you play. Yeah,

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when you play eleven games, not all of them are

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gonna be close. But when you have eleven games and

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nine of them are close as opposed to three of

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the games and two of them are blowouts, the two

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blowouts get left in the dust there. So I'm fine

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with it. I also think it it emphasizes each conference

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in a way that doesn't make the rest of the

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sport feel like it's just a two conference league running everything,

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even though we all know they have the most power

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and influence. This for lack of you know, lack of

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better terms, this puts respect on all of for the ACC,

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for the Big twelve, and even the G five. Like

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the G five, as fans of the sport, we have

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been clamoring for them to get a shot at the

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big boys, and now they're rightfully at the table getting

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a shot with the big boys. As a matter of fact,

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I'm willing to say, if you're not a fan of

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any of these schools, you're probably rooting for Boise State

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to win the whole thing because you just want to

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see it blow up in everybody's face. So I'm good

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with the first round bias here for your conference champions.

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I know it's convoluted, it's messy. I've been trying to

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explain it to my oldest son for like two straight

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weeks now and he still doesn't fully understand it.

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Speaker 1: So can you explain to me?

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Speaker 2: Can you show just show him.

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Speaker 4: Show him one of those Reese Davis tutorial videos they

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have for overtime or the playoff, playoff.

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Speaker 5: Wart dude, We've tried, We've done.

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Speaker 2: They bring them out over and over again.

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Speaker 9: Yes, So it's like, like, like whatever it is, I

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think ni L the transfer portal we've talked about this

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kind of.

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Speaker 1: Throughout the year has closed the gap. Mm hm, big

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ten sec. They're still be honest, there's still a gap,

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but the gap is a lot smaller, and that G

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five Big twelve acc is a lot closer. My biggest thing,

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My biggest issue is forty one percent, actually forty one

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point sixty seven percent, if you want to get the

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math correct, of those spots are already locked in my

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conference champions. Do we need five? Five seems too many?

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If if we're going to stay at twelve and Rob,

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I'm kind of I know one jumping ahead a little

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bit in the agenda, but like I'm bringing these two

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ideas together. Yeah, if we want to make it up, sorry,

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now go ahead.

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Speaker 4: I think first of all, giving automatic bye weeks to

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finish off that conversation with Andrew.

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Speaker 1: I was going to finish the conversation. Then you writ

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me off, so rude.

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Speaker 4: I'm not buying a sick or Now, well, you know

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you you send We talk about the agenda, and you say,

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you know what, Rob.

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Speaker 2: You're the host, run the show, and here you are

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doling out questions.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm I'm I'm weaving the tangled web.

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Speaker 4: Look, if we're going to give buys to give us

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a better TV product, then we have.

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Speaker 2: Totally sold out on putting together a fair tournament.

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00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,079
Speaker 5: And I completely disagree. I don't disagree with you on

476
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,799
that statement at all, that none whatsoever we are in

477
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,559
sync there, but it's the decision makers to be have

478
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,920
made it clear to everybody they want to create a

479
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,000
fascinating television product. That's what they're that's what they're looking

480
00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:49,799
for here.

481
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: You just said you're okay with it. I'm not okay

482
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,839
with it.

483
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't want up the fascinating television products.

484
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 4: We're talking about the committee, Craig, nobody limits the committee

485
00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:04,440
off limits in this discussion.

486
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: Andrew brought up the committee.

487
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 4: I'm going to just they are the root of all

488
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,680
evil and the problem with this whole situation.

489
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,839
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Okay, anyway, going back to my thought,

490
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,599
because I was so, the.

491
00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:17,039
Speaker 2: G five doesn't deserve to get get automatically in.

492
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,279
Speaker 1: We need there champions.

493
00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:23,519
Speaker 5: You're just gonna invite an anti law an anti trust

494
00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:25,799
lawsuit if you G five like that.

495
00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 4: Okay, So just so then we then were just shopping

496
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,599
at the four, because boys, you would have gotten in

497
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:31,119
this year with.

498
00:27:31,079 --> 00:27:34,559
Speaker 1: Four right right, accoud been left a would have only

499
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:35,240
gotten one.

500
00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 5: Way.

501
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: Oh god, they're not here to defend themselves.

502
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:47,559
Speaker 1: But but here's the deal. Auto bids work. Just go four.

503
00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:49,519
Speaker 5: I'm totally on board with four.

504
00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: Go to four because that's fine what you have. Let's

505
00:27:55,240 --> 00:28:00,079
be honest. This was a comment that got some folks angry.

506
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:02,880
You have the big two and you have everyone else.

507
00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:10,200
Let the everyone else fight for those two now. More

508
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,720
often than not, I believe in Brett or Mark. You

509
00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:14,880
have heard me say that a number of times. Andrew,

510
00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:18,359
I believe he will set them, set the Big twelve

511
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,799
up in position, or more often not, they will get it.

512
00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:25,319
Jim Phillips is driving the Titanic dright into the iceberg

513
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:28,839
with the acc and that is why the Mountain West

514
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,599
soon to be the Pac twelve or whatever the heck

515
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,680
they're going to call it. We'll take that fourth spot,

516
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,960
but stop with five.

517
00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 6: Four.

518
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 4: I'm good with four. Two no, no, no, no no, I'm good

519
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,960
with four and sixteen as well. I think that that

520
00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:44,920
those numbers are so much cleaner. It makes no sense

521
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,480
to me. There's no math here, right, Were's not supposed

522
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,160
to do math on this on the show. That's what

523
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,400
we said said last week, like, I don't know, yeah exactly, so.

524
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, in either case, with twelve or sixteen.

525
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 5: We had five powerful We had five power conferences when

526
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,839
they had five. So it made sense. That's it, that's it.

527
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: It made sense at the time.

528
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 6: So yeah, announced the initial twelve team, didn't they say

529
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,400
six conference champions or something?

530
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:13,119
Speaker 5: Yes? Now, yes, and then they reduced it when the

531
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,359
PAC twelve broke, So yes, the idea was to get

532
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,119
all all of the P five conferences and then still

533
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,079
have the at large bid for the G five. So right.

534
00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:25,799
Speaker 1: So so here's my question, and maybe this is a

535
00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:29,119
director to Tony. If we just start calling it the

536
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,119
Power three, would Jim Phillips actually fight his way out

537
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:35,400
of the wet paper bag to try to like get

538
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,480
himself into the power flour or would he just be in.

539
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 5: Like, oh, I don't know what I'm doing.

540
00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:45,519
Speaker 2: You would say whatever his scriptwriter wrote, right.

541
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:49,119
Speaker 5: And still Butcher that the problem is your mark. As

542
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,839
much as the Big twelve is seems very confident in

543
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,160
him as a commissioner, there is still a mountain to

544
00:29:57,279 --> 00:29:59,640
climb to get in the same brick as the Big

545
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,480
ten the SEC from a resources standpoint, because those numbers

546
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:09,720
are just going to exponentially grow annually. So yes, it

547
00:30:09,839 --> 00:30:13,599
sounds great, I will always stop for the Big twelve

548
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,880
no matter what. But reality says they still have a

549
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,759
long way to go to get anywhere close to being

550
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,000
locked in the same group as those two when it

551
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:25,480
comes to resources, power and influence.

552
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:29,799
Speaker 6: Losing parents in Oklahoma really really hurt and then obviously

553
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:34,720
cannibalizing what they could from the Pac twelve. But yeah, no,

554
00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:38,039
I think eventually, I think eventually they'll they'll garner that respect,

555
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:41,759
and especially if Arizona State ends up moving on this year,

556
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:45,079
they'll definitely garner that respect because I feel like this

557
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,200
year they were behind the eight ball at all times.

558
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,079
It felt like it was BYU's you know, party, and

559
00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:56,480
then they trip down the stretch and then everyone's just

560
00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:58,519
like the Big twelve is just there.

561
00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: It was tough though. It's like Bay who was like

562
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:07,880
going so quick, they stumble quick and it's like, gone, well.

563
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,319
Speaker 5: This goes back.

564
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:08,559
Speaker 1: He said.

565
00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: The argument that preseason rankings control everything, which is a

566
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,319
load of crap because it all matters where you start

567
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,119
and how quickly you can climb where you're going to

568
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,200
end up. So with somebody like Arizona State who's picked

569
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,519
at the bottom of the league, it took them so

570
00:31:24,759 --> 00:31:26,839
long to climb they literally had to win it.

571
00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 5: There's no other way.

572
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 4: They're not gonna They're not gonna climb their way in

573
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:33,400
even if eye tests and strength to schedule and other

574
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,720
metrics had been in their favor.

575
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 6: Yep, that lost of Texas Tech wasn't wasn't pretty. But

576
00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:43,880
then obviously the loss to Cincinnati who but they also

577
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,559
didn't have.

578
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 5: The starting quarterback. Yeah, you could try to excuse that

579
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:51,279
one away, and.

580
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,359
Speaker 4: You can try, but they don't. The committee doesn't like

581
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,839
that argument this year.

582
00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:59,119
Speaker 5: Now, and that's the that's I know, we're not talking

583
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:02,240
about the committee because the personnel change on the committee.

584
00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:06,440
We have to make sure we don't hold historical decisions

585
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,599
from the committee on very long because there's turnover in

586
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,960
that room every year.

587
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and that's okay.

588
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: So are we good with four?

589
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:16,519
Speaker 1: Audi?

590
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,839
Speaker 2: Were good with four out of its? Everybody agree that

591
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,920
Drew I.

592
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:24,279
Speaker 6: Can live with it.

593
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:27,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fine, that's fine. I got no problem.

594
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: I would I would.

595
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 6: I always always stump for more group of five. But

596
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:34,799
I do understand that there are there are definitely some

597
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,279
years that the group of five is nowhere close, Like

598
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,400
we got lucky this year with Boise State, you know,

599
00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:43,720
in Ashton genty and you know they still have a

600
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,400
strength of schedule like eighty something, Like what are they

601
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,359
going to do in the second round game, it will

602
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,400
still be fun. But yeah, no, even if we got

603
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,920
a twelve and thirteen and oer mac teams and SMU,

604
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,920
they'll be fine. One's gonna lose.

605
00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: Okay, So quick question for Andrew, mm hmm, I think

606
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,480
Oklahoma and Nebraska want to redo that? Would that help

607
00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:14,319
elevate the Big twelve status?

608
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 5: Again? It probably would. I don't think Nebraska truly wants

609
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,759
to redo. They're just like Oklahoma. You know, both of

610
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:27,279
them are Woody Harrelson from zombie Land, just wiping their

611
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:31,440
tears away with all of their money. So while yes,

612
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:35,240
they Nebraska especially has been living in college football purgatory

613
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:39,400
for decades now, and Oklahoma went from being a big

614
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,640
fish in a little pond to a average slass fish

615
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,519
in a much bigger pond. Uh, they're not average.

616
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: You're nicer than I am.

617
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 10: They'll be fine. Yeah, they'll be fine. Yeah, they'll be okay, No,

618
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:55,759
they want They're going to be fine. They have a

619
00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:58,400
good defense. They have a really good defense. And you

620
00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:00,440
know how easy it is. I'm gonna the old J. C.

621
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 4: Sherbert words again, how easy it is to recruit offense

622
00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:04,240
to Norman.

623
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: Give me a break, I looked at it at Oklahoma's

624
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,960
offense this year, and it looks like it's difficult.

625
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, do you know how easy it is

626
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:13,719
to pick that though?

627
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,199
Speaker 4: Just look at what they just look at them historically,

628
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,159
like that's a that's teed up to recruit offense over there,

629
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,039
just walking through all the Heisman trophies in the case.

630
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: Seth Latrell should have worked the air raids should work

631
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,760
at Oklahoma. But that was that's not what.

632
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,119
Speaker 2: That's not what. That's not what Jackson Arnold was recruited

633
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:30,400
to do.

634
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,159
Speaker 1: And why do we fire youself?

635
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 4: That's that's that's not his skill set because hired a

636
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:42,920
guy when Levy left another levee like like guy he

637
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,039
did it. He hired a different type of guy. It

638
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:47,039
was the wrong move. You get three quarters of the

639
00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:48,840
way into the year and go, oh crap, this doesn't

640
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,119
match the personnel, see you, and now the portal blows

641
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,039
it up and they lose your personnel anyway, so.

642
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: You just hit the reset button.

643
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: Great, okay, all right, so.

644
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: Four autobids, let's go of the let's go to the

645
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,360
next the next checkbox here twelve or sixteen.

646
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:14,519
Speaker 8: Sixteen, Drew, I would be fine with sixteen. I I

647
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,800
don't mind twelve, but I'm fine with sixteen, just so

648
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,599
that it really levels the playing field.

649
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: How much more? How much more? How many more games count? Now?

650
00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:26,639
Think about it that way, like, like how many.

651
00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:28,559
Speaker 2: Now we're going to be debating four lost teams?

652
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 6: Yeah that's true.

653
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:35,079
Speaker 1: Who cares well Alabama finally gets in, then miss might

654
00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:40,559
finally get in. Then maybe Andrew. And Andrew is going

655
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:43,280
to take the volunteer for that that copboard show. He's

656
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,960
going to take that job. He's going to send him

657
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,440
to Oxford, and Robin Craig gonna be stuck at home.

658
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 2: I don't like he's about the second one.

659
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 7: Twelve.

660
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 5: I can no, no, no, I don't. I don't think.

661
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:03,840
So I really thought about this that like sixteen seems inevitable.

662
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:09,480
So I've been trying to like get there, and I

663
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:12,400
want to make a compelling argument for twelve. But the

664
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,599
fact is, like there's not much difference between twelve and sixteen,

665
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,920
because so we go down to sixteen this year. So

666
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,440
what you take the three SEC teams in Miami is

667
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,440
what you just added, So like, yeah, you just got

668
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:29,719
a lot more compelling games, you know, Miami.

669
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,159
Speaker 4: You had three national title contenders in Miami. Though, if

670
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:33,760
you add if you add those four teams in.

671
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 5: Now, I'm pretty sure when you lose to Kentucky, Bandy,

672
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:44,079
Ole Miss and you still find a way to accumulate

673
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:46,760
three more losses. And so we had nine losses between

674
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,239
three teams. Like you know whatever, I'm not I'm not

675
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,880
here to debate Rob on the SEC merits. But Miami

676
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,880
would be the perfect chaos agent for a playoff because

677
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,679
they could they could truly outscore anybody in a single game.

678
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,639
So your national title favorite in a given year runs

679
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:10,119
into a Miami and you get a sixty three to

680
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,400
sixty game, and Miami just happens to win because they

681
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,480
get the last possession. So sixteen's fine. I don't think

682
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:19,880
it's much different than twelve. So that's fine with me.

683
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,880
And we'll still have the same debate between fifteen, sixteen

684
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:29,360
and seventeen and that's fine too. Just like I am

685
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:35,119
now for old Miss South Carolina, Miami, Bama. I'm not

686
00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:37,920
going to lose sleepover the fact that you let yourself

687
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,280
get into this position. But that's just how I feel

688
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,360
about it. You know, if SMU would have been left out,

689
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,679
I personally would have felt like there would have been

690
00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:54,039
like I would have felt it would have wrong. Smu

691
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,400
and Drew made a good point that now we've thrown

692
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,320
conference championship games into jeopardy, but I still would have

693
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,320
fallen ultimately on the side of like, well, don't don't

694
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,559
lose to Crimson. I'm saying lost three games and you

695
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:12,239
lost to them, you know, so I wouldn't fine with it.

696
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And to be fair with both Alabama and Oldness,

697
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,760
even though I do feel how VAMA should be in

698
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,760
don't lose to Oklahoma, don't lose to Bandy, don't love

699
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,159
to Kentucky. It's you know, and that's why we can

700
00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:29,960
have the mate. It sucks, right, but it's like, don't make.

701
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,039
Speaker 5: It right, don't put yourself in position with no doubt

702
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,000
a right.

703
00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 4: So what if you don't put yourself in position and

704
00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:40,599
the and the refs make incredibly naturally recognized terrible calls

705
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:42,440
and don't have your starting quarterback for half the game?

706
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,639
Speaker 5: All right? Well, so first off, that what happens in

707
00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:47,719
that case, if memory serves me correct, that call happened

708
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,559
in what the second quarter, the first quarter? Maybe the

709
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:52,119
pick six?

710
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: There was two pick six. There was two pick sixes that.

711
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,039
Speaker 5: Were wiped off the board.

712
00:38:56,079 --> 00:39:01,519
Speaker 2: Actually one for a they called it unsports like conduct.

713
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:03,679
Speaker 4: They didn't even call it a blind side block, which

714
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,159
was ridiculed, which was ridiculous.

715
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 5: That was that was.

716
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,559
Speaker 4: In the third That one was in the third quarter.

717
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,920
The call that the call that most people don't talk

718
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,920
about in that game. They we're talking about South Caroline

719
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,880
LSU for anybody who didn't pick it up. That is

720
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,199
absolutely atrocious. Is on South Carolina has a chance to

721
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,079
ice the game late in the fourth quarter if they

722
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:24,360
get a first down and they and Robbie Ashford throws

723
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,639
a forty yard pass that's complete to Delvon Campbell, and

724
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:31,320
they called it offensive PI on a receiver that's running

725
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,719
in space with no defenders anywhere near him.

726
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: And the the.

727
00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:40,119
Speaker 4: The analysts, the rules expert, everybody comes on the air

728
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:42,199
and goes, we have no idea what they're talking about.

729
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,800
This doesn't exist. We've looked at it everywhere every way

730
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,679
that you can. So there was there was more than one.

731
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,639
It was more than the two pick sixes that they

732
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:50,480
wiped off the board.

733
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 5: You're right.

734
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 4: It was the ice the game, and it was no

735
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,199
starting quarterback in the second half.

736
00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 5: That's fine.

737
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,159
Speaker 2: In that case, you don't control it.

738
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,159
Speaker 5: I understand that what you did control was not putting

739
00:40:02,159 --> 00:40:06,800
away Alabama when you are so uh that's her again,

740
00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:09,880
So like yes, and that's and that's the thing is,

741
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,079
if you have won maybe two games in this current format,

742
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,079
those can be you know, you're in position to not

743
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:19,880
really be touched. Essentially, you're not really on the cut line.

744
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,440
Miami obviously got cut with two losses, but in a

745
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:28,159
case nothing to stand on exactly, so it's pretty clear cut.

746
00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:30,880
But yeah, once you get past two, there's there's gonna

747
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,320
be one in there that's you don't really have a

748
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:33,840
defense for.

749
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:36,599
Speaker 4: So unless we got to sixteen and then it's gonna

750
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:38,440
have to get past three, right, well, then it's three

751
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:38,800
and four.

752
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: So quick question. Georgia loses an overtime, they're still in.

753
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,199
Speaker 5: Well yeah, I mean the one, well, yeah, they want

754
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,840
to beat Texas. Yeah, they're in.

755
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: You're I'm saying, I'm saying if they lost to Georgia,

756
00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:56,760
the three losses.

757
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 6: Yeah they still be. One of those losses was avenged

758
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:02,360
by beating Texas the first time around.

759
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 5: So exactly was Yeah, I think they still probably would

760
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,840
have been.

761
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: Made the statement.

762
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 4: They made the statement that they weren't going to punish

763
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,159
commerce champion losers, although they dropped un l V four spots.

764
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:14,639
Speaker 10: It did.

765
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,039
Speaker 6: I think it just meant about in the playoff, not

766
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:17,920
just in general.

767
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 4: Well, again again, the consistent the consistency factor is not

768
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,000
really here.

769
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:27,559
Speaker 1: So question for drew U n l V better than Purdue.

770
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:35,199
Speaker 6: Football wiser job wise, but I think they would. I

771
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,880
think they would be Purdue pretty good.

772
00:41:38,559 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but the resources, yeah, resources, Big Ten resources,

773
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:47,440
what you're going to.

774
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,679
Speaker 1: Do well, the thing is good.

775
00:41:50,039 --> 00:41:55,119
Speaker 6: Sorry, but like you know, going to Purdue, which you

776
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:57,360
know obviously you know you're alluding to the bury odom.

777
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:06,280
Jumping to Purdue, you you don't have expectations. You feel

778
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,039
the team. If you make a bowl game, they will

779
00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:14,039
build you a statue like that. That's the thing about

780
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:17,320
Purdue is it's it's it is the bottom of the

781
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,480
wrong in the Big Ten, and like they'll run into

782
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:23,320
a big win every now and then. If you know,

783
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,559
if urban Meyer decides to come back to coaching, they'll

784
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:28,239
end up beating him by four scores or something like that.

785
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:33,480
But I think the job wise is probably better good

786
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,880
for him to get back into the power for game

787
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:41,400
after the after fizzling out with Missouri. But yeah, no,

788
00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:43,440
I think I think it's it's good for him and

789
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,360
good for Purdue. I like, but what he was doing

790
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,719
over there with UNLV, you know, nineteen wins over the

791
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,599
last two years.

792
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,199
Speaker 1: The interestancy of Marion comes both of them. Yeah, because

793
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,159
because I think that's gonna that's gonna be key, Like

794
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:59,840
what's that does he look like? For whatever? Gram Harrell

795
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:05,920
run message board, you know whatever. Graham Harold did not work.

796
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,840
Brian Walters did that work. And the interesting part is,

797
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,519
like Walters is a very olden disciple, so it's like

798
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,199
there's some alignment there, so that will be interesting.

799
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,199
Speaker 4: All right, Let's move to our reactions to the college

800
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:24,360
football Playoff. As we now know that it sits locked

801
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,280
in place Oregon one, Georgia two, Boise State three, and

802
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,320
Arizona State at four. There's not much we can say

803
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,760
about those unless we want to make an argument about

804
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,519
the seating order with three and four. But so let's

805
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:40,360
go to the games that we're actually gonna see in

806
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,199
a couple of weeks.

807
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: Craig has the lines for us.

808
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,199
Speaker 4: And then we'll kind of give some we'll kind of

809
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,199
open it up to give instant reactions to what's the

810
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,679
what are the most compelling games, what's grabbing your attention?

811
00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:53,119
What do you like or not like about these lines.

812
00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:55,679
I'll just make an overarching statement before he gives them.

813
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,039
None of them are under a touchdown.

814
00:43:57,519 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

815
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: So Friday night we have number ten Indiana versus number

816
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,800
seven in Notre Dame in South ben Notre Dame is

817
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:12,320
giving eight points. The winner of that will face Georgia. Saturday,

818
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:17,079
we have a triple header, big noon kickoff, so no

819
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:17,679
white out.

820
00:44:18,519 --> 00:44:20,679
Speaker 5: So they are doing they are doing what they are.

821
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:22,639
Speaker 8: Yea.

822
00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:29,119
Speaker 5: They sure are wide out unlocked right, yeah, great, maybe

823
00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:29,719
it'll snow.

824
00:44:30,639 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: I don't know who locked it up.

825
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: Number eleven s m U is going to number six

826
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:37,400
Pence State. Somehow Penn State is favored by it in

827
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,000
the half hammer and eight and a half. When you're there,

828
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,800
we'll get Boise the afternoon game. Number twelve Clemson. We'll

829
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:54,079
go to our Austin to play number five Texas Texas. Yes, well,

830
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:57,519
Franklin Barbecue. We'll bring Andrew with us and we will break.

831
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 5: Franklin barbecue is tremendous, Yes, tremendous.

832
00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:04,159
Speaker 4: Can you say can you say that line one more

833
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:06,679
time for the matchup of the Orange teams.

834
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: Casey, I'm sorry, brother, I love you, but all right,

835
00:45:11,039 --> 00:45:14,440
all right, all right is getting eleven points in that one.

836
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:18,360
Winner of that one's going to face Arizona State. And

837
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,079
then in the nightcap, Uh, we will pray for you, Drew.

838
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:31,000
You get there safely. Number nine Tennessee, we'll travel to

839
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:35,280
Columbus to face number eight Ohio State. This number does

840
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,880
not make any sense to me at all. Ohio State

841
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,400
getting seven and a half. I don't know if this

842
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:43,960
is like Ryan Day on third base getting these numbers.

843
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,519
I'm not sure what happens here. But the winner of

844
00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:49,920
this one will get oar again. So John, I'll kick

845
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:57,440
it to you, okay, all right.

846
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,519
Speaker 5: So my my initial thought on all of this is

847
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:05,000
like when I finally saw the bracket, like I was

848
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:10,480
truly giddy inside. I used to dream of a college

849
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:15,239
football playoff in high school, in college like I used

850
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,039
to dream of stuff like this, and now seeing it

851
00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:21,440
is like just a childhood moment like unlocked for me.

852
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:24,519
So I have a good point, like I am super

853
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,840
giddy about the matchups, Like the point spreads are pretty significant,

854
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,719
but I mean Vegas knows a lot. Vegas has never

855
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:41,119
handicapped a college football playoffs, so you know, there there's

856
00:46:41,159 --> 00:46:44,559
a good chance they could be wildly incorrect with these

857
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,480
in a multitude of ways.

858
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 2: They're gonna be wrong about something. Oh yeah, there's no

859
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,559
way they're just nailing.

860
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:50,639
Speaker 5: All of this.

861
00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:53,199
Speaker 8: Own.

862
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 5: So I'll leave my My only thought for that Ohio

863
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,480
State game is I do I do fear there might

864
00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:05,000
be a little bit more orange in that stadium. Then

865
00:47:05,519 --> 00:47:09,239
then maybe Columbus might be accustomed to And if Ohio

866
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,440
State gets off to a slow start and starts getting

867
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,159
booed in the first quarter after the last time they

868
00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:19,239
showed up at home, that would be quite a scene

869
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,760
to unfold. But out of the first round matchups, Clemson

870
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,000
Texas to me, is the standout game.

871
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,599
Speaker 1: Tell me, what are you seeing there? I don't I

872
00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:31,239
don't see it.

873
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:37,199
Speaker 5: Well, first off, the orange clashes is hideous, like right orange, Yeah,

874
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:43,039
I've thrown up horrible color matchup, just a horrible color matchup.

875
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:50,440
But you know, Texas has yet to show us anything substantial. Like, yes,

876
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:54,119
they handled Texas A and M in an electric environment,

877
00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:58,599
but man like, they tried really hard to give Texas

878
00:47:58,599 --> 00:47:59,480
a and m that game.

879
00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:04,559
Speaker 1: They've lost Georgia. They gave, they gave, they gave Georgia

880
00:48:04,639 --> 00:48:07,840
the game Saturday, talked about it in the first half. Yes,

881
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,159
you can cash.

882
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 5: In, right, So Texas is obviously talented. That's not what

883
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,920
yeah Clemson is. Clemson is talented. They have like the

884
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,440
first half of the a c C Championship game, and

885
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:26,880
Davos said as much that they finally played their best

886
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,039
football of the season and now they didn't put together

887
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:34,599
for four quarters and it almost it almost got them.

888
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,679
But if that team that showed up in the first

889
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:41,039
half in Charlotte shows up in Austin, Texas will have

890
00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:43,159
its hands full like Clemson still has.

891
00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:49,119
Speaker 4: Here's here's an opportunity to go to cut dot com

892
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,559
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893
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894
00:48:54,159 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 2: But if you go to k U T T.

895
00:48:56,039 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 4: Cut dot com, you can make You can make bets

896
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,000
and wagers with your friends. Put the money up ahead

897
00:49:01,039 --> 00:49:03,159
of time, and as soon as the game clears, the

898
00:49:03,199 --> 00:49:05,239
money goes into their account. So you don't have to

899
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,800
text them, send them a vender request, anything like that.

900
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:08,719
You don't have to worry about.

901
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 10: Heh.

902
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 2: Hey, I forgot to bring you the cash to you.

903
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: Know, can I respond to Andrew real quick?

904
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 5: I will allow it.

905
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: Clemson will be held under two hundred and fifty yards

906
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,519
and Texas will win by at least fourteen.

907
00:49:22,119 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 5: Points, fourteen points.

908
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say this.

909
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 4: Look, I talked to Clemson fans today who were on,

910
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,360
who were at the ACC Championship last night, and they

911
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,639
said they might beat us by four scores.

912
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: They are concerned.

913
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 5: I'm here to tell you, man like Dabo is not

914
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,159
afraid of any stage. And yes, Clemson, Clemson has shown

915
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,599
us enough this year to show us like they can

916
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:54,960
get run out of any building. Like I just I

917
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,119
think that here's a.

918
00:49:56,039 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 4: Couple of things to watch. Here's a couple of things

919
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,320
to watch in that one. Okay, Phil Maffa was hurt

920
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,440
last night. He has a shoulder injury. And then Haynes,

921
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,320
the backup quarter, the backup running back, goes down about

922
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,519
three quarters the way through the game. I'll be interested

923
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:12,239
to see how healthy they are in the backfield, the Tigers.

924
00:50:12,519 --> 00:50:16,320
The other side of that is as I'm gonna all right,

925
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,880
here's why I was wrong segment, Because we haven't we

926
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,920
haven't had one. I'm just gonna make one statement. We

927
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,559
have this every week. It's everybody's favorite segment on the show.

928
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:28,679
When I got about how wrong I I'm gonna reverse

929
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,599
course for this one. Texas needs to play Arch because

930
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,320
because I have said.

931
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 2: Over and over.

932
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:42,679
Speaker 4: Quinn's team, but did you say Clemson's Clemson's weakness. Clemson's

933
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:45,840
weakness in multiple occasions this year has been quarterbacks with legs,

934
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,599
and I think that if you if you give Arch

935
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,400
more opportunities than a trick play, I want to see

936
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,719
at least the package that he got against Texas A

937
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,920
and M if not, if not, more of a looked

938
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,800
than that, because I think if he gets out and

939
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,800
starts moving, uh, it's gonna call them some problems. It's

940
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,480
in case he said on here a couple of weeks ago.

941
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:05,000
I mean, he's a Clemson guy. If you just use

942
00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:08,440
your tight ends to occupy Barrett Carter, then you kind

943
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,920
of take him out of the out of the game.

944
00:51:11,199 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 2: Then then it just becomes a simple It just becomes

945
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,519
simple math at that point.

946
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,199
Speaker 1: Question one last question for Andrew, what is Clemson's record

947
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against SEC teams this year? Would be and to okay,

948
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:31,559
thank you, and and and so I'm gonna say here's

949
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:35,840
the one that I'm most looking forward to. Who are

950
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we not talking about? Kurt sign Indiana?

951
00:51:41,639 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: Now, granted, talking about the mid off.

952
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Speaker 1: Now, granted, the Battle of Indiana's the biggest thing to

953
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happen since Indiana became a state, because what else happens

954
00:51:51,199 --> 00:51:58,880
in Indiana? Drew, you will agree nothing but but but

955
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,599
but but if, but if anyone's going to take Kirby's

956
00:52:01,679 --> 00:52:04,840
no one believes in us, it's going to be Kurt Signetti.

957
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:13,599
And my god, how fun would that be if the

958
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:14,960
Hoosier's knock off touchdown?

959
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Speaker 6: Jesus right, Like Kurt Signetti obviously that first you know

960
00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:21,639
that basketball game, he's like produce sucks. And so it

961
00:52:21,679 --> 00:52:23,320
was a high state in Michigan. I'm like, you went

962
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,679
too and one, which is not bad, that's better than

963
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Indiana usually does. But you're going against Notre Dame. This

964
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,480
you know that is that there's no other college football,

965
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,159
you know, anything in Indiana outside of Notre Dame. You

966
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get South in Indiana and that's about it. And like you,

967
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,639
that's it. It's it's literally you want to be the

968
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,719
David and Goliath. You want to take down the big boys,

969
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,159
like you. You tried in Columbus and I I when

970
00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:00,679
I was there, they fought value Le, but they were

971
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:05,280
just overmatched. And if you you really want to, you

972
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,519
really want to show you're about it, go to go

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to South Bend, go to win it. I'm like, I'm

974
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I'm really looking forward to that one because you know,

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I love Curtis Rourke. You know, coming from Ohio, you

976
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,239
know the Maple Missile, I'm not coming from Oisle, was

977
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,639
from Canada, but you know he transferred from Aisle after

978
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winning the MAC m v P a couple of years ago.

979
00:53:25,679 --> 00:53:29,519
The Maple Missile. That's like, could you tell me a

980
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:33,159
single skill position player on that team? Like they they

981
00:53:33,199 --> 00:53:36,800
ball out with a bunch of Indiana guys.

982
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:38,559
Speaker 5: Distributes the ball.

983
00:53:38,639 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 4: Well that's why I can't say one guy because it

984
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:41,679
goes everywhere.

985
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: M h.

986
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Speaker 6: And like obviously Curtis Rourke against that, that secondary is

987
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:49,920
going to be a lot of fun to watch.

988
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 4: They maybe, but the secondary, their secondary that is, yeah,

989
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:56,679
they are good.

990
00:53:57,039 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 5: They're good, but.

991
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Speaker 6: Like like I was, you know, I think their name

992
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,400
really hasn't played too many people.

993
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 5: Absolutely not.

994
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,079
Speaker 2: Thet I got lit up, I got lit up in

995
00:54:08,199 --> 00:54:08,599
l A.

996
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Polly wapped the Navy and Army. That's about it. Yeah,

997
00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:16,639
Like they went this.

998
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 4: Against USC if USC's offense knew how to put anybody

999
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,960
on the ground that you take fourteen points off the

1000
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,480
board for for a Notre Dame where they ran to kickoffs,

1001
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,119
I mean two interceptions.

1002
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:30,039
Speaker 2: Back the length of the field.

1003
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:36,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, ridiculous. Yeah. I just want to last question from

1004
00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:41,480
my Big Ten insider James Franklin. Does he finally get

1005
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:42,719
a winner? Is he going to find a way to

1006
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,360
screw it up and cry it and and go crying

1007
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:46,800
about it in the post game?

1008
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:53,199
Speaker 6: You know, I'm really I'm back and forth with him.

1009
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,760
I'm like, on one hand, I'm like, I want you

1010
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,559
to do something to show everybody that you're just not

1011
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,599
this something right, You're just not the guy that beats

1012
00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:04,840
up on Rutgers in Maryland every year but loses to

1013
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,960
you know, High State Michigan and anybody else with a pulse.

1014
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,960
But on the other hand, good lord, you had your

1015
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,400
opportunity against the Oregon like that right there at the

1016
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,559
beginning of the game. It looked like Oregon was gonna

1017
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:20,880
just run them right out the building. They clawed back,

1018
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,719
did a great job, and then obviously the al interception

1019
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:25,639
at the end.

1020
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Speaker 4: But I just think what they did against the Oregon

1021
00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:31,519
is a good thing, Yeah, because I think it gives

1022
00:55:31,559 --> 00:55:33,800
them confidence and I think it's motivating for this for

1023
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,719
this game because now they've seen a little bit of

1024
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,559
what the offense can do when they open it up.

1025
00:55:37,559 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: I think the Ducks got bored.

1026
00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 4: That's fine, but that doesn't matter in the in the

1027
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,440
locker room. Nobody's in the locker room saying, oh, we

1028
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:45,880
scored because they were bored with us.

1029
00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:48,519
Speaker 1: Now you've got your head coach making excuses, oh, this

1030
00:55:48,599 --> 00:55:51,000
is a JV setup in the press conference and they

1031
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,280
had too many penalties that we had more penalties. So

1032
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,159
like to me, it's those built in excuses. A team

1033
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,960
will replicate their head coach.

1034
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,519
Speaker 4: The good defense they've always and the defenses was always

1035
00:56:02,599 --> 00:56:04,800
kept them in And so I'm not really concerned about SMU,

1036
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,199
like just just scoring left and right on them. I

1037
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,880
think Jenny's is gonna get his and they're gonna score.

1038
00:56:11,039 --> 00:56:13,920
But I actually like Penn State in this one. The

1039
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,360
most intriguing game to me is the one in Columbus.

1040
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,960
If I'm if I'm grabbing one. If there's one that

1041
00:56:19,039 --> 00:56:21,800
gets my attention the most, it's definitely that game, because

1042
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,159
I think that you have two teams who are a

1043
00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:29,400
little bit uncertain to me, a little Jekyl and Hyde

1044
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:30,360
to me.

1045
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,079
Speaker 1: And I think I saw I think Ryan Davey drops

1046
00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:34,079
a bomb in Tennessee.

1047
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:37,679
Speaker 2: This is the This is the most I do.

1048
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:41,159
Speaker 4: Either you can get you can get one side of

1049
00:56:41,199 --> 00:56:43,599
either team showing up. So this is kind of where

1050
00:56:43,679 --> 00:56:47,159
I feel like there's the most variation of possible results,

1051
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:50,000
because you can get good Ohio state and he does

1052
00:56:50,119 --> 00:56:51,719
drop a bomb, or you can get their higher state

1053
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:52,280
we just saw.

1054
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: You can get killed and killed down takes care of

1055
00:56:55,679 --> 00:56:57,519
Nko and those deeps or.

1056
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 4: Or or you can get a deal in Sampson type

1057
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,480
of game where he gets he gets lathered early and

1058
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:08,519
and Nico makes the necessary throws, not not wins the

1059
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:10,679
game with his arm, but he makes the necessary throws

1060
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,360
and and Tennessee.

1061
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 2: Tennessee play as well.

1062
00:57:13,519 --> 00:57:15,519
Speaker 4: Or you can get the best version of both teams,

1063
00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:18,639
and I think you get a relatively even matchup. I

1064
00:57:18,679 --> 00:57:20,679
would go to a High State because I think has the

1065
00:57:20,679 --> 00:57:21,760
best talent in the.

1066
00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: Touch two touchdowns and an amazing recap from Drew.

1067
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: We always get an amazing recap from Drew regardless of

1068
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:30,159
what the result is.

1069
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,519
Speaker 1: But I don't know fourteen points.

1070
00:57:34,679 --> 00:57:36,159
Speaker 2: I don't know it's gonna be fourteen points.

1071
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:40,239
Speaker 1: Ye, Hype and Nico, we're gonna show I am.

1072
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:44,039
Speaker 6: I'm yeah. I'm definitely very interested to see if Ryan

1073
00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:49,679
Day does this stupid smooth brain nonsense. That's like, we

1074
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,800
have to beat them at their own game. Tennessee wins this.

1075
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: But the thing is like, he's not playing Michigan. He

1076
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:58,760
won't do that, right.

1077
00:57:58,679 --> 00:58:01,239
Speaker 6: You're not playing Michigan, who is your boogeyman, which is

1078
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:06,199
the stupidest thing in the world. But that that I

1079
00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:09,880
definitely understand the apprehension when it comes to Ohigh State

1080
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,719
in this game because of what we just saw, the

1081
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,920
bad taste in your mouth, the fact that Michigan has

1082
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:20,280
two NFL defensive tackles and Ohigh States, like, let's just

1083
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,599
run it right at them instead of spread it out

1084
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,400
when we scored in about a minute. Now, we're just

1085
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,880
gonna keep running at those defensive tackles, like so.

1086
00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: They don't want to play Oregon until the semi final.

1087
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,119
That that was a whole deal. It's like, let's let's

1088
00:58:36,159 --> 00:58:37,800
just wait, let's get a home game.

1089
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 6: The thing is like with Tennessee is obviously really good

1090
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,440
at running the ball, Dylan Samson is a ridiculous running back.

1091
00:58:46,719 --> 00:58:50,880
A high stage run defense is really good, and like

1092
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,519
they do really, really, really well when it comes to

1093
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:58,960
corraling those running backs. And then yeah, Caleb Downs, Oh

1094
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,880
my goodness, you can not say enough good things about him.

1095
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,800
He's ridiculous. Like he is about as sure as a

1096
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,679
tackler dog.

1097
00:59:07,559 --> 00:59:08,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's he's all right.

1098
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:13,559
Speaker 6: It looks good, but like it's it's going to come

1099
00:59:13,639 --> 00:59:17,199
down to for me, the the you know, in the trenches.

1100
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,760
Just as cliche as it gets. High State still got

1101
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:26,000
that messed up offensive line. Losing you know, Josh Simmons

1102
00:59:26,039 --> 00:59:30,480
and Seth McLaughlin, who was having arguably an All American season.

1103
00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:37,039
Losing those two has screwed everything up. They looked all

1104
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:41,039
right in the Indiana game. They did a good job

1105
00:59:41,079 --> 00:59:46,159
of corraling those those solid Hoosier defensive linemen, but it

1106
00:59:46,239 --> 00:59:49,000
could not get anything going against Michigan, which is you know,

1107
00:59:49,079 --> 00:59:54,039
part of the course the last four years. James Pearce terrifies,

1108
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:55,440
terrifies me.

1109
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:57,599
Speaker 1: He had.

1110
00:59:57,679 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 6: You know, he's still a freak of nature and he's

1111
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,559
probably going to go, you know, top ten at the

1112
01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:06,519
worst in the NFL draft. If Day and Chip Kelly

1113
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:11,280
remember that he's on that sideline and prepare for it,

1114
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,039
then yeah, bu guys will do all right. Will Howard

1115
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:17,239
will be able to overcome that one. What in the

1116
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:22,199
world are you doing? Will play and you know the

1117
01:00:22,239 --> 01:00:24,360
second they'll be able to test that secondary with you know,

1118
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,480
Jeremiah Smith, who's not seventeen unfortunately like Ryan Williams, but

1119
01:00:28,719 --> 01:00:31,880
he's seventeen. Brian Williams is seventeen. Did you not know?

1120
01:00:33,039 --> 01:00:33,199
Speaker 5: Hey?

1121
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 4: Bonus questions? Man, bonus question? Dude, do you miss do

1122
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:37,679
you miss McCord?

1123
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 6: I don't. Actually, I still will take Will Howard and

1124
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,599
his boneheaded play over.

1125
01:00:48,159 --> 01:00:49,119
Speaker 1: As a Buckeye this year.

1126
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:50,079
Speaker 6: Sorry.

1127
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: How would cam Woard look as a Buckeye this year?

1128
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,760
I'm just curious, curious.

1129
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,519
Speaker 6: I was stumping so hard.

1130
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,639
Speaker 2: I'm undefeated, That's how I would look.

1131
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 5: You. I wouldn't have mattered against Michigan because I didn't

1132
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,599
let the quarterback throw the ball against would have been undefeated.

1133
01:01:07,679 --> 01:01:11,119
Speaker 4: That's true because cam Ward cam Woard makes magical things

1134
01:01:11,159 --> 01:01:13,639
happen on all schedule plays and so.

1135
01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:18,159
Speaker 1: Championship, come on, it was.

1136
01:01:18,199 --> 01:01:20,679
Speaker 6: I was really stumping for for cam Woard. Like when

1137
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,920
when he initially transferred to Washington State.

1138
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: You put money in the collective.

1139
01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 6: At that time? No, because I don't have money.

1140
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,679
Speaker 1: Wait, hang on, hang on, he said at that time,

1141
01:01:33,079 --> 01:01:37,119
meaning there was another time he may.

1142
01:01:39,519 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 6: You can't. You can't field this roster with you know,

1143
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:49,760
nobody helping million. That's correct, verifying, but yes, that's a

1144
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,639
very expensive roster to keep all those guys from going

1145
01:01:52,679 --> 01:01:55,480
pro and wanting to beat Michigan.

1146
01:01:55,679 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: And is Judkins gonna like say, like I need to

1147
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,159
raise every time like House the plays like he's gonna

1148
01:02:01,159 --> 01:02:04,119
need money for their trunk game. He's going to need

1149
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,079
more money for the second. I mean, allegedly he did

1150
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:09,760
that an old mess. I cannot confirm any of that.

1151
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 6: I've heard anything negative about him when it comes to

1152
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,159
a high state, like they've said he's been a model citizen.

1153
01:02:17,079 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: It shows what a sen is in Columbus versus Oxford.

1154
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,159
I mean, Lena is running. I mean, these boys are

1155
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,400
in bed early. Everything is good. No one's going on,

1156
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,000
all right, all.

1157
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:31,079
Speaker 2: Right, all right, Hey, we have time for one more thing.

1158
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:33,639
Speaker 4: I just want to remind you guys to go on

1159
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,639
X and follow at Drew crab through twelve and at

1160
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,440
CFP four. Underscored us to get Andrew there and you

1161
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:45,119
can pick up Big twelve and Big ten coverage as

1162
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:48,280
we look into the playoffs, and you know you want

1163
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,519
to get in on that early before the SEC eliminates

1164
01:02:51,559 --> 01:02:52,320
the rest of the field.

1165
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,039
Speaker 2: So make sure that you go and follow them.

1166
01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:57,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, they says you go in and follow them now

1167
01:02:58,400 --> 01:02:59,960
so that you can get that coverage.

1168
01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:01,199
Speaker 2: So as you can get that coverage.

1169
01:03:01,199 --> 01:03:04,599
Speaker 4: We we really enjoyed having you both on as a

1170
01:03:04,639 --> 01:03:08,559
nod always to last word we want. We want to

1171
01:03:08,599 --> 01:03:12,840
close with our segment the last word, Craig tell us

1172
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,239
who who we've been missing this year and why that's

1173
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,400
a part of our part of our last word. As

1174
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:23,000
you get ready to play the ode to what was

1175
01:03:23,159 --> 01:03:27,519
the SEC on CBS, I.

1176
01:03:27,559 --> 01:03:31,639
Speaker 2: Will I'll let you know that in the first round.

1177
01:03:31,559 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 7: I just want to say I really miss Brent Wesberger

1178
01:03:36,639 --> 01:03:42,760
and Gary Danielson. Those guys, I mean, no Alabama would

1179
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:47,440
have been in the playoffs if Gary Danielson could have

1180
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had a chance every week at three thirty to just

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talk about the job killing the bore this stuff, and

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now we have to watch that's a new going to

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happy mail.

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Speaker 5: Gary Bron this year.

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Speaker 2: I think I think it's weird. I still think it's weird.

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Speaker 4: I think we've talked all year about that was great,

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Craig by the way, like kudos your oscars and the mail.

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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 4: We've talked all year about how great it's been for

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ESPN to work these windows, especially with the great job.

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The way it's really been staggered. I mean it's been

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it's been really really good. It's given us, it's given

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us a an overlapping.

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Speaker 1: Said too many noon games. I also say he needs

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more night games.

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Speaker 2: They need to get it together.

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Speaker 5: And uh, Kirby left the state at Georgia four times

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and told his SEC commissioner that he played too many

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road games. So everybody, everybody in the SEC is complaining.

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Speaker 1: Yes, listen that Mercedes, Benz Andrew they're not.

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Speaker 5: And then South.

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Speaker 2: This is not just a this is not just an SEC.

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It's not an SEC argument.

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Speaker 4: Because Texas schedule was soft, Missouri schedule was definitely soft,

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and they and they screwed.

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Speaker 2: It up that eighteen shot at the playoffs You've.

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Speaker 5: Got eighteen teams in one conference and you play eight

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conference games like you're gonna get some soft schedule.

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01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:34,199
Speaker 1: Listen, Old Dominion and Liberty and who else did you play? Akron?

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I don't even know who's South Carolina? Are you talking

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to me?

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Speaker 2: Are you talking to me?

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01:05:41,519 --> 01:05:42,159
Speaker 5: Are you talking to me?

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Speaker 2: With the top fifteen strength of schedules? Still after playing

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those teams, get out of people play?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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01:05:47,239 --> 01:05:50,039
Speaker 2: How many times? How many times do play two?

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Speaker 4: How many times we played two Power five Power four opponents?

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And then two cupcakes as opposed to three like most

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people do.

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01:05:57,559 --> 01:06:00,719
Speaker 1: Listen, we play our cupcakes at neutral site because we

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01:06:01,039 --> 01:06:05,400
god forbid we would play clumpson in neutral Yeah, we

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01:06:06,239 --> 01:06:09,400
get into it forbid. We would play between the hedges

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or at.

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Speaker 4: The favorite who's your favorite team of commentators for the playoff?

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Is it McDonald, Ackleroy, McGrath, Jones, Jones and Kesnitch, past

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of or check, Ken, Gregor Or or Fowler, Herbstreet and Rug?

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I think that's all of the teams.

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Speaker 1: Andrew and Drew go first.

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Speaker 5: Ju Let you have it.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, man, I'm sorry.

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01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 4: I forgot Bob was Shoes and Lewis Riddick and Chris

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but I don't know, I think, and also Joe Tests,

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01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,880
Jesse Palmer, and Teddy George. Sorry they only have them

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in here once. The ones that I mentioned before are

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doing double duty.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure. Honestly, I don't really pay too much

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attention to it, especially since I was in Columbus not

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01:06:55,079 --> 01:06:58,400
hearing the commentators for six of the home games.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Marv.

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01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 6: So I do love Platt and Gus Johnson, but he's

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been off this year.

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01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:12,719
Speaker 5: It's so weird they make all those new games in Ohio.

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He lost his juice and.

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Speaker 4: They have none of the they have and Fox has

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no playoff games in the In the opening round, it's

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all the ESPN guys except for on Saturday.

1248
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Speaker 2: The Noon and the four are both.

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Speaker 5: On t N.

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Speaker 2: T mm hmmm, And man.

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Speaker 5: I think, are they still Is it still an ESPN

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crew though?

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01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: They just You've got the A C C. You've got

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the a CEC crew at noon.

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Speaker 4: Yep, and then past de or check McGregor as a

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four for Clinton Texas. Yeah, I think give me foul

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01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:53,960
herp shooting rod like that's the easy pick.

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Speaker 8: There's a there's a lot of soldiers with those guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't go wrong with them. They do a

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great job. I really used to like Joe Tests. Joe

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Test seems like he's become more of the SEC machine

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that he works for, which is a shame. He was

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01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,639
calling the Big twelve game and they were doing a

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great job and talking about everything, and then towards the

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end of the game he says, all right, well, now

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we we're transitioning to a heavyweight fight in Atlanta where

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the SEC Championships being played. And I'm like, Joe Test,

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01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,359
like respect the game a little bit. I will tell

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you though, McDonough and McElroy. Yes, they might be. They

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might be. They might be my favorite.

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Speaker 1: I can't stand Greg like like Greg, really no, I can't.

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Speaker 5: And that's it. That's a South Lake Carol legend. You

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01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,239
put some respect on Greg's name.

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01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: No, he's no. I listen. I love Sean, I love

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01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,560
Miley McGrath. Can we bring back Todd Blackwood because I

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01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,239
like Todd a hell of a lot better than I do

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01:08:56,319 --> 01:09:00,000
Greg Greg. Greg's like that nerdy kid who's always raised

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01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:02,720
his hand and like has to give you every right

1279
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:07,119
answer no matter what. So like, stop, Craig, that's me.

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Speaker 2: Thanks thanks for that.

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01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,399
Speaker 1: And I also I also have to give a shout

1282
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:17,279
out to my boy Quint Kesnich big lacrosse guy, also

1283
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:21,920
covers wrestling stuff like that, but like he's phenomenal. Who's

1284
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:22,880
asking me this morning?

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01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:23,079
Speaker 5: So?

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01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 6: One thing do we do we do? Bate? I know

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01:09:27,039 --> 01:09:29,279
this is obviously college football? Do we do baseball in here?

1288
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:30,079
Do we like baseball?

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01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,079
Speaker 1: Craig, it's lacrosse?

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01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:36,520
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, well.

1291
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: And those everybody else baseball?

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01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 6: The one Soto Domino has finally falling?

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01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:43,319
Speaker 1: Oh where do you go?

1294
01:09:44,239 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 5: I went to breaking news?

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01:09:46,199 --> 01:09:49,239
Speaker 6: He went to the Cincinnati now the New York Mets.

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Fifteen years, seven hundred and sixty five million.

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01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 4: I have to immediately, we have to sign off so

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01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,640
I can text people that I've been saying this too

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for weeks.

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Speaker 2: Who are Yankees that just insist that I was going

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to be wrong.

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01:10:02,319 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 6: I'm so disapinted that he didn't choose the Reds. What

1303
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:05,520
the heck? Man?

1304
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,199
Speaker 5: I should have came back to the Nats. Man, the

1305
01:10:08,319 --> 01:10:10,439
Nats love him here and he loved being here, but

1306
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,319
the Nats don't have set deep That's that's that's your

1307
01:10:13,319 --> 01:10:13,960
baseball talk.

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01:10:15,319 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 2: I have breaking news in the MLB right here on

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01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:19,640
this podcast.

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Speaker 1: I have one one question. In our group chap before

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01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,239
there was something about any agenda or rundown for the

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01:10:27,279 --> 01:10:29,840
pod or we're just gonna let Craig roll alive grenade

1313
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:34,000
out and Rob promised to keep us on track, so

1314
01:10:34,039 --> 01:10:39,079
I would ask Andrew and Drew, did Rob keep us

1315
01:10:39,119 --> 01:10:41,439
on track with my grenades?

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01:10:42,239 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 2: You were?

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01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,199
Speaker 5: You were offended by how much Rob try to keep

1318
01:10:45,239 --> 01:10:47,479
you on that listen.

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01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: I was trying to keep it together for Brent and Gary. Okay,

1320
01:10:52,399 --> 01:10:53,479
this has been really hard.

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01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,319
Speaker 2: This has been It just means more football and coffee.

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01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,359
Speaker 4: I'm Rob Williams at Rob Williams GCP. He is Craig

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01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,600
and Michael MCMICHAELH seven. You can find him in Gary

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01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:06,319
Danielson's DMS and we will see you next week as

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01:11:06,359 --> 01:11:09,960
we take a deeper dive into these first round matchups.

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Have a great week. We'll see you next time.